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                 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module
                 Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
                 Module Zope, line 134, in zpublisher_exception_hook

                 The URL may be incorrect.
                 The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
                 A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.

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If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your patience. --------------8823A6BD98A7845E8174F130-- From stefan@epy.co.at Wed Dec 4 10:21:57 2002 From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:21:57 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Product AttributeError __error_log__ ??? In-Reply-To: <3DEDD863.D51D0754@fagmed.uit.no> References: <3DEDD863.D51D0754@fagmed.uit.no> Message-ID: <785458234.1039000916@[172.16.8.4]> For some reason you are missing the error_log object in the root folder. If it is there, try to delete and recreate it. HTH, Stefan --On Mittwoch, 04. Dezember 2002 11:26 +0100 chrisf wrote: > > I can't seem to debug my product on Zope 2.6. > Product subclasses simple item and my own classes. > Every Error produces the following informative output. > About as informative as most WinDZ errors :) > Any Clues > > > > Site Error > > An error was encountered while publishing this resource. > > exceptions.AttributeError > > Sorry, a site error occurred. > > Traceback (innermost last): > > Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module > Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish > Module Zope, line 134, in zpublisher_exception_hook > > AttributeError: __error_log__ > > > > Troubleshooting Suggestions > > The URL may be incorrect. > The parameters passed to this resource may be > incorrect. > A resource that this resource relies on may be > encountering an error. > > For more detailed information about the error, please refer > to the HTML source for this page. > > If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. > Thank you for your patience. -- Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field. /Erik Naggum/ From winkelmann@fh-weingarten.de Wed Dec 4 10:30:21 2002 From: winkelmann@fh-weingarten.de (Harald Winkelmann) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:30:21 +0100 Subject: AW: [Zope] Product AttributeError __error_log__ ??? In-Reply-To: <3DEDD863.D51D0754@fagmed.uit.no> Message-ID: <000701c29b80$25f8b290$5f0e458d@doz95> If you use a siteroot you need a new error_log... From chrisf@fagmed.uit.no Wed Dec 4 10:39:56 2002 From: chrisf@fagmed.uit.no (chrisf) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:39:56 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Product AttributeError __error_log__ ??? References: <3DEDD863.D51D0754@fagmed.uit.no> Message-ID: <3DEDDB7C.895676D8@fagmed.uit.no> I have an error_log and a no site_root. DTML and other exceptions are registered, but not from my python product. Do I need to inherit from a special 'logger class' Chris From myzope@gmx.net Wed Dec 4 10:41:56 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:41:56 +0100 Subject: [Zope] zope user numbers References: <3DEDD52D.8050406@thesite.org> Message-ID: <3DEDDBF4.8010105@gmx.net> Ben Avery wrote: > that's a nice number. I wonder how many are running behind Apache, > though - those wouldn't be accounted for there. I don't think so, at least I know for a fact that netcraft can see zope even if it is behind apache in proxy mode. Look up e.g. www.zope.com to see for yourself. Zope sends the Server header, which apache doesn't rewrite if it isn't explicitly told so. cheers, oliver From stefan@epy.co.at Wed Dec 4 11:02:35 2002 From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:02:35 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Product AttributeError __error_log__ ??? In-Reply-To: <3DEDDB7C.895676D8@fagmed.uit.no> References: <3DEDDB7C.895676D8@fagmed.uit.no> Message-ID: <787896625.1039003355@[172.16.8.4]> --On Mittwoch, 04. Dezember 2002 11:39 +0100 chrisf wrote: > > I have an error_log and a no site_root. > DTML and other exceptions are registered, but not from my python > product. > Do I need to inherit from a special 'logger class' > No, but you must make sure the app object can be acquired. Line 134 of module Zope is: log = aq_acquire(published, '__error_log__', containment=1) Either you have to _setObject() you object or wrap it manually. Stefan -- Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field. /Erik Naggum/ From chrisf@fagmed.uit.no Wed Dec 4 11:40:51 2002 From: chrisf@fagmed.uit.no (chrisf) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:40:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Product AttributeError __error_log__ ??? References: <3DEDDB7C.895676D8@fagmed.uit.no> <787896625.1039003355@[172.16.8.4]> Message-ID: <3DEDE9C3.592704BB@fagmed.uit.no> "Stefan H. Holek" wrote: > > No, but you must make sure the app object can be acquired. > > Line 134 of module Zope is: > > log = aq_acquire(published, '__error_log__', containment=1) > > Either you have to _setObject() you object or wrap it manually. I noticed the code as well, too bad. I DON'T want to inherit from aquire. This should not be a requirement for basic functionality, such as error checking !!! Have we forgotten good OO design paradigms ??? My classes are numerous, some are generated on the fly, and none are registered as products. Each class exists in a hash under of the one registered product 'Family Dispatcher' that intercepts the http request, splits it, and recusively searches through the children hash of objects for attributes(methods), or returns error. Each class does inherit from persistence of course. If interested the code is quite small: def __bobo_traverse__(self,REQUEST=None,NAME=None): return self def __call__(self,REQUEST): url = REQUEST.URLPATH0.split('/') url = url[url.index(self.id)+1:] if 'white' in url: url.remove('white') # a wierd zope thing return self.__find__(url,obj=None,REQUEST=REQUEST) def __find__(self,url,obj=None,REQUEST=None): if obj is None: obj=self i = url[0] if hasattr(obj, i) : return getattr(obj,i)(REQUEST) if obj.children.has_key(i): return self.__find__(url=url[1:],obj=obj.children[i],REQUEST=REQUEST) else : return 'error' From zope@zope.org Wed Dec 4 11:39:57 2002 From: zope@zope.org (Clemens Robbenhaar) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:39:57 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs! In-Reply-To: <200212041059.01235.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> References: <200212031035.06086.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <15853.5307.405839.752574@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <200212041059.01235.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> Message-ID: <15853.59789.178260.134059@galsan.espresto.com> > > Before your Zope hangs completely, [skipp] > Errmm.... How I can log-in to *dead* Zope, then go to the Control_Panel a= nd=20 > see a Debug Information there? ;-) hm, good question ;-) maybe do not start Zope at all, but load it via the debugger; see e.g.: http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/UsingTheZopeDebugger http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/TheDebuggerIsYourFriend (or something else You get by a search for 'debugger' on zope.org) I hope You can 'import Zope' from the debugger commandline without hang, and then investigate why the requests cause zope to hang by stepping through the equivalent python call. HTH, clemens From jens@zope.com Wed Dec 4 12:56:31 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 07:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Custom login form in standard Zope ? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021204093453.027912b0@mail.dantzan.com> Message-ID: it can not be done without an extra authentication product, period. check out the CookieCrumbler (-> search zope.org). it makes what you want to do very easy. jens On Wednesday, Dec 4, 2002, at 03:45 US/Eastern, Garikoitz Araolaza wrote: > Hi! > > I'm trying to set up a custom login form (as login_form in CMF) trying > to avoid the pop-up login window when requesting any non public > resource in the Zope site. > > Can it be done without any extra authentication product? Where is the > API, so that I can call an authentication method? > > Thanks! > > Gari > > _________________________________________ > Garikoitz Araolaza > gari@eibar.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From lennart@regebro.nu Wed Dec 4 13:28:50 2002 From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:28:50 +0100 Subject: [Zope] zope user numbers Message-ID: <014701c29b99$1d7b8110$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> > I don't think so, at least I know for a fact that netcraft can see zope > even if it is behind apache in proxy mode. > Look up e.g. www.zope.com to see for yourself. > Zope sends the Server header, which apache doesn't rewrite if it isn't > explicitly told so. It's not that simple, there are other variables involved, although I don't know which exactly. Cuold ver verison of Apache and method (RewriteRule vs ProxyPass maybe?). See for example: www.torped.se, which has been Zope behind Apache for years. Still sais it's Apache. Best Regards Lennart Regebro Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB From andreas@andreas-jung.com Wed Dec 4 13:32:43 2002 From: andreas@andreas-jung.com (Andreas Jung) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:32:43 +0100 Subject: [Zope] [ANN] CMFCollectorNG 0.10 released Message-ID: <23354832.1039012363@[192.168.0.3]> The very first public release of CMFCollectorNG 0.10 is now available. CMFCollectorNG is a Zope/CMF-based bugtracking system. It is based on the former CMFCollector written by Ken Manheimer of Zope Corporation. This release is a good starting point for further community development (e.g. internationalized versions (the current UI is in German *only*)). What's new? - major code cleanup and complete new skins - very generic ticket properties management - enhanced tracker configuration through the web - extend usage of the CMF memberdata tool to store user informations and user preferences - rewritten transcript to keep issue related informations in an abstract format to produce different output (HTML, plain text for email notifications) - tickets can have references to other tickets (also across CMFCollectorNG instances) - dedicated views for uploaded files and references to other tickets - better roles management: * *TrackerAdmin* manage the tracker * *Supporters* can file tickets, create followups, upload files, add references to other tickets * *Reporters* can file new tickets and upload files and references - preliminary support for XML export - much more minor improvements (too much to mention them :-) ) Wikipage: http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/CMFCollectorNG/Wiki/FrontPage Sourceforge project page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cmfcollectorng --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 4 14:57:05 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:57:05 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Unknown error Message-ID: <200212041657.05725.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> Hello. Somebody know what this error means? Just which way I should go to find i= t? Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. ZODB.POSException.ConflictError Sorry, a site error occurred. Traceback (innermost last): File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 127, in publish File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 127, in publish File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 127, in publish File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 122, in publish File /opt/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 126, in zpublisher_exception_hook File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 102, in publish File /opt/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 173, in commit File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 234, in commit File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 252, in commit ConflictError: database conflict error (oid 0000000000017918, class Products.FbOracleUser.FbOracleUser.fbOUPoolOperator) --=20 Regards, Bogdan "Atsi=C5=B3skite man, pra=C5=A1au, tiekt=C4=AF i=C5=A1 =C5=BEiniatinklio = valdytuvo, su sutvarkytu dokumentu, nes mano vaizduoklio derintuvas per senas?" From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 4 15:25:05 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:25:05 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs! In-Reply-To: <008001c29bb7$dcfb91b0$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it> References: <41256C85.00316E8F.00@esrinmail2.esrin.esa.int> <008001c29bb7$dcfb91b0$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it> Message-ID: <200212041725.05309.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Wednesday 04 December 2002 19:09, Gilles wrote: > But most probably you are executing code which doesn't return.=20 No. Whole site is just timed out. After restart all works fine. --=20 Regards, Bogdan Go not unto the Usenet for advice, for you will be told both yea and nay = (and quite a few things that just have nothing at all to do with the question)= =2E From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 4 15:33:24 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:33:24 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs! In-Reply-To: <15853.59789.178260.134059@galsan.espresto.com> References: <200212031035.06086.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <200212041059.01235.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <15853.59789.178260.134059@galsan.espresto.com> Message-ID: <200212041733.24152.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Wednesday 04 December 2002 13:39, Clemens Robbenhaar wrote: > I hope You can 'import Zope' from the debugger commandline without han= g, > and then investigate why the requests cause zope to hang by stepping > through the equivalent python call. What is debuggin Zope -- I know. ;-) The problem is that debugging shows=20 nothing for me -- all is fubar always I debug. The only thing I did month ago is mounted another one data.fs, where is a= lso=20 another one "Control_Panel", "temp_folder", "Transient Object Container"=20 where session data is stored and a "Browser Id Manager". Why I did this?=20 Because Zope uses RAM for sessions and after Zope restart session is gone= =2E=20 But when you point a session to the main Data.fs -- "Undo" feature is gon= e! But I need *both of them* for my developers. What I think is probably my = mount=20 way was not too correct -- it works, but probably not so good. Since I'm = not=20 so sure of the problem -- I ask Zope gurus. ;-) --=20 Regards, Bogdan BASIC: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 4 15:33:24 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:33:24 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs! In-Reply-To: <15853.59789.178260.134059@galsan.espresto.com> References: <200212031035.06086.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <200212041059.01235.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <15853.59789.178260.134059@galsan.espresto.com> Message-ID: <200212041733.24152.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Wednesday 04 December 2002 13:39, Clemens Robbenhaar wrote: > I hope You can 'import Zope' from the debugger commandline without han= g, > and then investigate why the requests cause zope to hang by stepping > through the equivalent python call. What is debuggin Zope -- I know. ;-) The problem is that debugging shows=20 nothing for me -- all is fubar always I debug. The only thing I did month ago is mounted another one data.fs, where is a= lso=20 another one "Control_Panel", "temp_folder", "Transient Object Container"=20 where session data is stored and a "Browser Id Manager". Why I did this?=20 Because Zope uses RAM for sessions and after Zope restart session is gone= =2E=20 But when you point a session to the main Data.fs -- "Undo" feature is gon= e! But I need *both of them* for my developers. What I think is probably my = mount=20 way was not too correct -- it works, but probably not so good. Since I'm = not=20 so sure of the problem -- I ask Zope gurus. ;-) --=20 Regards, Bogdan BASIC: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. From duebendorfer@tik.ee.ethz.ch Wed Dec 4 15:51:44 2002 From: duebendorfer@tik.ee.ethz.ch (Thomas Duebendorfer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:51:44 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] How to check with ZOPE/Python if file "x.html" exists in path container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath()? Message-ID: I simply want to check in a ZOPE/Python script, whether the file "x.html" exists at the exact path defined by container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath(). And I want to make sure that ZOPE does NO TRAVERSAL, i.e. does not look in folders above the given path in case the file was not found. The statement path = container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath() returns correctly something like: path = "('', 'silva', 'kom', 'web', 'topic1', 'subtopic1a')" The Python script "checkFile.py" to check for the file will reside at /silva/kom/checkFile.py and is called from a tal:define="fileExists python:here.checkFile('x.html'))" in /silva/kom/web/main.html. Any idea how I can do that? Thanks for your answers. Regards, Thomas From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 4 16:08:22 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:08:22 +0200 Subject: [Zope] WebDAV timeout? Message-ID: <200212041808.22793.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> Hello. Does anybody know how to make a WebDAV timeout a little bit longer, than = 10=20 min.? I use External Editor and after some pause object is not locked=20 anymore. --=20 Regards, Bogdan If you can't understand it, it is intuitively obvious. From tpassin@mitretek.org Wed Dec 4 17:10:19 2002 From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:10:19 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Unexpected script behavior Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601297829@email1.mitretek.org> [ Michael Long] >=20 > I am getting unexpected results from my python script. Here=20 > is a snippet form the python script: >... > After the person is successfully deleted from the database=20 > another call to the database is made to get a list of people=20 > and set that to 'PersonList'. This variable is then used to=20 > render the page. The problem is that the deleted person still=20 > shows up in the rendered page. When the page is called a=20 > second time the correct data is shown. I have validated that=20 > the data is deleted from the database when expected. Why=20 > would the 'PersonList' not have the correct data? >=20 Sounds like that browser is displaying a cached verison of the page. If it is the browser doing the caching, you can set a header to control it. If it is Zope, you can change the cache setup. Cheers, Tom P From David.Bear@asu.edu Wed Dec 4 17:17:56 2002 From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:17:56 -0700 Subject: [Zope] objectValues return value Message-ID: <20021204101756.C14602@moroni.pp.asu.edu> I wrote a script the returns a list object of all title_or_id values of objects in a folder. The problem is when there are no objects in the folder. The script should return a list contianing the string 'none'.. but doesn't. In fact, the script seems to either hang or have no return value... Any pointers? # returns a python list contained the title of the page templates in this folder list = context.objectValues('Page Template') if list == None: return ['none'] newlist = [] for zpt in list: newlist.append(zpt.title_or_id()) return newlist -- David Bear College of Public Programs/ASU Mail Code 0803 From mark@mceahern.com Wed Dec 4 17:29:42 2002 From: mark@mceahern.com (Mark McEahern) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:29:42 -0600 Subject: [Zope] timeouts and alternatives Message-ID: Suppose I have an object that takes a long time to add (e.g., a highly customized CMF Site that imports all the data upon creation). I can go into the ZMI and add it. During development, I do this often, but I'd like to be able do to it from a Python script, so that I don't have to worry about timeouts--plus, it'd be much easier to just execute a shell script than to go into the ZMI and click around to delete/add my site for the billionth time. The script might look like this: #!/bin/bash # Update my Products. cp -R $dev/Products/* $zope/Products/. # Restart Zope. /sbin/service zope restart # Create the site. python2.1 $dev/create_site.py What I'm wondering, is what does create_site.py look like? I'm hoping there's a way to do something like this: import ZODB # unknown magic that gets me to root = the root of my Zope instance root.manage_AddSite(...) Thanks, // mark - From pw_lists@slinkp.com Wed Dec 4 17:38:58 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:38:58 -0800 Subject: [Zope] objectValues return value In-Reply-To: <20021204101756.C14602@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021204101756.C14602@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <20021204173858.GA14378@slinkp.com> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:17:56AM -0700, David Bear wrote: > I wrote a script the returns a list object of all title_or_id values of objects in a folder. The problem is when there are no objects in the folder. The script should return a list contianing the string 'none'.. but doesn't. In fact, the script seems to either hang or have no return value... > > Any pointers? > > # returns a python list contained the title of the page templates in this folder > list = context.objectValues('Page Template') > if list == None: > return ['none'] Nope... objectValues always returns a list. Why do you expect it to return None? Change that to: if list == []: return ['none'] -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From andy@agmweb.ca Wed Dec 4 17:46:23 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:46:23 -0800 Subject: [Zope] timeouts and alternatives References: Message-ID: <019301c29bbd$10201f20$0201a8c0@cr582427a> > import ZODB > # unknown magic that gets me to root = the root of my Zope instance > root.manage_AddSite(...) Make ZEO client and do import Zope root = Zope.app() Google for this and you will find some results. If you want to hook the initialization of a clean ZODB, look at PloneInitialize.py in a Plone installation near you. -- Andy McKay From jeff@jeffyouel.com Wed Dec 4 18:05:59 2002 From: jeff@jeffyouel.com (Jeff Youel) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:05:59 -0800 Subject: [Zope] RE: [Tog] timeouts and alternatives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003c01c29bbf$cd192070$1601a8c0@YSIDEV1> > # Create the site. > python2.1 $dev/create_site.py > > What I'm wondering, is what does create_site.py look like? > I'm hoping there's a way to do something like this: > Take a look in mips/tools/create_mips_portal.py. I just whipped this together to create the portal from the command line. Its really too bad that their client stuff isn't better documented it makes calling an HTTP server via POST forms easy. BTW, there's a pack.py in PortalCatalog/data/ that packs the database. J From brian@zope.com Wed Dec 4 18:18:26 2002 From: brian@zope.com (Brian Lloyd) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:18:26 -0500 Subject: [Zope] objectValues return value In-Reply-To: <20021204101756.C14602@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: > I wrote a script the returns a list object of all title_or_id > values of objects in a folder. The problem is when there are no > objects in the folder. The script should return a list > contianing the string 'none'.. but doesn't. In fact, the script > seems to either hang or have no return value... > > Any pointers? > > # returns a python list contained the title of the page templates > in this folder > list = context.objectValues('Page Template') > if list == None: > return ['none'] > newlist = [] > for zpt in list: > newlist.append(zpt.title_or_id()) > return newlist The objectValues method should return an empty list if the collection is empty, not None. Try: list = context.objectValues('Page Template') if not list: return ['none'] From jeff@jeffyouel.com Wed Dec 4 18:31:40 2002 From: jeff@jeffyouel.com (Jeff Youel) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:31:40 -0800 Subject: [Zope] RE: [Tog] timeouts and alternatives In-Reply-To: <003c01c29bbf$cd192070$1601a8c0@YSIDEV1> Message-ID: <004401c29bc3$63e86da0$1601a8c0@YSIDEV1> > > # Create the site. > > python2.1 $dev/create_site.py > > > > What I'm wondering, is what does create_site.py look like? > > I'm hoping there's a way to do something like this: > > My apologies. I accidentally sent the reply to the list instead of privately. Jeff From ajole-1@gci.net Wed Dec 4 06:56:53 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 06:56:53 -0000 Subject: [Zope] ZClass permissions Message-ID: why is it that an anonymous user is not granted access to the ZClasses in product management? {dumb question, I'm sure]. Also, if I want an anonymous user to be able to add instances of Zclasses in a folder with code like

where I'm adding a PK_Posting from a PK_MessageBoard, what permissions do I need to set. I still fail to understand the whole permissions/define permissions dialogs.... From nicolas.laurance@expert-rh.com Wed Dec 4 11:07:29 2002 From: nicolas.laurance@expert-rh.com (Nicolas LAURANCE) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:07:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] security and domain Message-ID: hello zopers, Here is my situation : I have a zope hosted behind apache and virtual monster When i need the ip address of a visitor I use HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR I want some users to log only from a specific IP for example : 100.100.50.25 If I set 'domain' in the acl_user fiels to that IP, it doesn't work, I guess the domain it returns is the domain of the Apache or proxy server. Is there a workaround for the domain to be checked against the HHTP_X_FORWARDED instead of the IP_ADDRESS ??? Any help or pointers is welcome... From mlong@datalong.com Wed Dec 4 19:35:32 2002 From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 14:35:32 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Unexpected script behavior Message-ID: Thanks for the info. It appears that it is the browser that is caching the data. What is the header control that can be used to prevent this. Thanks, Mike > [ Michael Long] > > > > I am getting unexpected results from my python script. Here > > is a snippet form the python script: > >... > > > After the person is successfully deleted from the database > > another call to the database is made to get a list of people > > and set that to 'PersonList'. This variable is then used to > > render the page. The problem is that the deleted person still > > shows up in the rendered page. When the page is called a > > second time the correct data is shown. I have validated that > > the data is deleted from the database when expected. Why > > would the 'PersonList' not have the correct data? > > > > Sounds like that browser is displaying a cached verison of the page. If > it is the browser doing the caching, you can set a header to control it. > If it is Zope, you can change the cache setup. > > Cheers, > > Tom P > > From tpassin@mitretek.org Wed Dec 4 19:43:12 2002 From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:43:12 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Unexpected script behavior Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601297865@email1.mitretek.org> [ Michael Long] I forget the details, but it involves the "expires" date/time HTTP header AFAIR. You should be able to search the Zope list (and the Zope site). I know it has been discussed here before. Cheers, Tom P >=20 > Thanks for the info. It appears that it is the browser that=20 > is caching the data. What is the header control that can be=20 > used to prevent this. >=20 > Thanks, > Mike >=20 > > [ Michael Long] > > >=20 > > > I am getting unexpected results from my python script. Here > > > is a snippet form the python script: > > >... > >=20 > > > After the person is successfully deleted from the database > > > another call to the database is made to get a list of people=20 > > > and set that to 'PersonList'. This variable is then used to=20 > > > render the page. The problem is that the deleted person still=20 > > > shows up in the rendered page. When the page is called a=20 > > > second time the correct data is shown. I have validated that=20 > > > the data is deleted from the database when expected. Why=20 > > > would the 'PersonList' not have the correct data? > > >=20 > >=20 > > Sounds like that browser is displaying a cached verison of=20 > the page. =20 > > If it is the browser doing the caching, you can set a header to=20 > > control it. If it is Zope, you can change the cache setup. > >=20 > > Cheers, > >=20 > > Tom P > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org=20 > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross=20 > posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists -=20 > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >=20 From pollej@uleth.ca Wed Dec 4 20:02:56 2002 From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 13:02:56 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Changing ZClass Property Values Message-ID: <3DEE5F70.81CA6049@uleth.ca> Hi All, I've created a ZClass with some properties. Hooray for me. How can I change these values programatically? The only example I've ever seen of manage_changeProperties in within a method of the propertysheet as such: propertysheets.myPropertySheet.manage_changeProperties(REQUEST) I'd like to be able in python to do something like this here.myObject.setProperty1(myValue) I'm not entirely sure how to do this, although I anticipate I might need to wrap this through a few levels, eg. a method on the object talking to a method on the properysheet. And, like always, documentation is nonexistent. If it isn't nonexistent, please direct me to where I could find the resources to solve this quandry. Thanks in advance, Ed From Thomas Guettler Wed Dec 4 20:34:06 2002 From: Thomas Guettler (Thomas Guettler) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:34:06 +0100 Subject: [Zope] forgetting _p_changed=1 Message-ID: <20021204203406.GF735@thomas-guettler.de> Hi! When you develop a python product and forget to set self._p_changed=1 you realize this sometimes much later. Most of the time you only realize that your list has not changed after a restart of zope. I recall that there is a way to make zodb always "reload" the objects. Does someone know the name of this flag? thomas -- Thomas Guettler http://www.thomas-guettler.de From jmeile@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 21:14:12 2002 From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:14:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Changing ZClass Property Values Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C29BE2.79DCE8B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > How can I change these values programatically? The only example I've > ever seen of manage_changeProperties in within a method of the > propertysheet as such: >=20 > propertysheets.myPropertySheet.manage_changeProperties(REQUEST) You can try this from an external method: myObject.propertysheets.myPropertySheet.manage_changeProperties(self.REQU= EST,myProperty=3DmyValue) >From a python script you just have to change self for context Regards, Josef ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C29BE2.79DCE8B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> How can I change these values = programatically?=20 The only example I've
> ever seen of manage_changeProperties in = within a=20 method of the
> propertysheet as such:
>
>=20 propertysheets.myPropertySheet.manage_changeProperties(REQUEST)

You can try this from an external method:

myObject.propertysheets.myPropertySheet.manage_changeProperties(self= .REQUEST,myProperty=3DmyValue)

From a python script you just have to change self for context

Regards,

Josef

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C29BE2.79DCE8B0-- From Thomas Guettler Wed Dec 4 21:32:45 2002 From: Thomas Guettler (Thomas Guettler) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:32:45 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ObjectManager API and Zope3 Message-ID: <20021204213245.GH735@thomas-guettler.de> Hi! Does someone know why ObjectManager has its own "API"? I think it would be better if the API would be like python's dictionary: has_key, values, items ... Somehow I don't like objectValues, objectItems ... Will this be changed for Zope3? thomas -- Thomas Guettler http://www.thomas-guettler.de From ajole-1@gci.net Wed Dec 4 09:41:29 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:41:29 -0000 Subject: [Zope] ZClass permissions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: to sum up, anonymous users can't do this: manage_addProduct['SomePorduct'].SomeZClass alternatives? -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Stinson Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:57 AM To: zope Subject: [Zope] ZClass permissions why is it that an anonymous user is not granted access to the ZClasses in product management? {dumb question, I'm sure]. Also, if I want an anonymous user to be able to add instances of Zclasses in a folder with code like

where I'm adding a PK_Posting from a PK_MessageBoard, what permissions do I need to set. I still fail to understand the whole permissions/define permissions dialogs.... _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From lennart@regebro.nu Wed Dec 4 21:45:17 2002 From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:45:17 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ObjectManager API and Zope3 References: <20021204213245.GH735@thomas-guettler.de> Message-ID: <032e01c29bde$74747770$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Thomas Guettler" > Does someone know why ObjectManager has its own "API"? Because there are things you need to do, and then you need an API. It's kinda hard to get out only DTML-Methods from a dictionary, for example. > Somehow I don't like objectValues, objectItems ... Get used to it. :-) From danny@streamgardens.net Wed Dec 4 21:55:28 2002 From: danny@streamgardens.net (Danny Morgan) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:55:28 -0000 Subject: [Zope] membership management Message-ID: I'm wondering what folks are using/recommending for managing membership on a Zope/CMF/Plone site. I don't have any sort of external membership sources to deal with. thanks, Danny From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:43:45 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:43:45 +0100 Subject: [Zope] tracebacks vanished In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15854.30481.837691.283691@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Tom Cameron writes: > I have upgraded to 2.6 on redhat and now I cant seem to get tracebacks to > display. > > I managed to get the EVENT_LOG_FILE working. but it makes no difference if I > use the -D frag on the z2.py file or not. In both cases I no longer see any > tracebacks of errors. Customized "standard_error_message" and add a display for "error_tb". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 22:03:34 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:03:34 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Unknown error In-Reply-To: <200212041657.05725.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> References: <200212041657.05725.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> Message-ID: <15854.31670.85277.935653@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Bo M. Maryniuck writes: > Somebody know what this error means? Just which way I should go to find it? > > > Site Error > An error was encountered while publishing this resource. > > ZODB.POSException.ConflictError Please search the mailing list archives. You will find dozens of questions like yours. And almost as many explanations ;-) Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 22:04:09 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:04:09 +0100 Subject: [Zope] How to check with ZOPE/Python if file "x.html" exists in path container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath()? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15854.31705.646777.966725@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Thomas Duebendorfer writes: > I simply want to check in a ZOPE/Python script, whether the file "x.html" > exists at the exact path defined by container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath(). > And I want to make sure that ZOPE does NO TRAVERSAL, i.e. does not > look in folders above the given path in case the file was not found. Please search the mailing list archives for "aq_base". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:54:48 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:54:48 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritancs:propertysheets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15854.31144.853015.574463@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Patrick Stinson writes: > Am I now corrent in assuming that ZClasses do NOT inherit property fields > from their super-ZClasses? No, you are not correct. They inherit the property sheets and the instances inherit the properties. However, the ZMI for the derived ZClass does not allow you to directly manipulate the inherited property sheets. > if not, how do you access the inherited > propertysheets, instead of the actual property sheets. In (Z) instances, you access them in the same way, i.e. the access is independent of whether the property sheet is defined in the ZClass or in an inherited ZClass. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:50:35 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:50:35 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Newbie ZClass confusion In-Reply-To: <3DED76FE.6070103@marge.cyber-dyne.com> References: <3DED76FE.6070103@marge.cyber-dyne.com> Message-ID: <15854.30891.747040.451864@gargle.gargle.HOWL> joseph toman writes: > >The following is a python constructor that I usually use. I call this > >constructor from an html form that sets all of the new object's properties. > >notice the 'ProductName' and 'ZClassName' (fill those in). > > > > > > Thanks. I modified it slightly and it works fine. A few questions if I > might: > > manage_addProduct['ProductName'] > > This is a dictionary of products ? No, "manage_addProduct" returns a "ProductDispatcher" instance (class defined in the "App" package). However, it defines a partial mapping API (it defines "__getitem__", therefore, you can access it via "[...]"). > createInObjectManager(REQUEST['id'], REQUEST) > > Is this method documented somewhere? It is a ZClass method ("ZClasses.ZClass.ZClass"). There is a little source code documentation for its definition (a so called "DocString"). Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:40:27 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:40:27 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Flexible path generation for metal:use-macro with Python (KeyError) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15854.30283.970077.223642@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Thomas Duebendorfer writes: > I am looking for a flexible way to define the path for a macro to be used. > > The following works: > > .... > Now, I would like to generate this sequence of alternative paths by a > Python script to have full flexibility. Therefore I tried the following > approach: > > Create a Python "getMacroPath" script that takes the parameter "macroname" > and looks like this: > return 'here/content_macro_main.html/macros/' + macroname Thus, your script returns a string (representing a path expression) and you want to get the designated object. The "path" function does this: it take a string and evaluates it as a path. Use: "python: path(here.getMacroPath(...))" Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:45:43 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:45:43 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Unexpected script behavior In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15854.30599.48535.654351@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Michael Long writes: > I am getting unexpected results from my python script. Here is a snippet > form the python script: > > container.DeletePerson_sql(PersonId=PersonId) --[ZSQL Method] > ClearPersonDetails() --[Python function] > PersonList = container.GetPersonList_sql() --[ZSQL Method] > request.set('PersonList', PersonList) > return container.ContactTemplate() --[ZPT] > > After the person is successfully deleted from the database another call > to the database is made to get a list of people and set that to > 'PersonList'. This variable is then used to render the page. The problem > is that the deleted person still shows up in the rendered page. When the > page is called a second time the correct data is shown. I have validated > that the data is deleted from the database when expected. Why would the > 'PersonList' not have the correct data? This looks like your database had a funny transaction concept. What database are you using? What database adapter? Are both ZSQL methods using the same DA instance? Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:21:03 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:21:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] context in a Product's python code (not Python Script) In-Reply-To: <1038971146.3ded710a45dd1@redemption.trnty.edu> References: <1038593340.3de7ad3c71cf2@redemption.trnty.edu> <1038971146.3ded710a45dd1@redemption.trnty.edu> Message-ID: <15854.29119.782306.564284@gargle.gargle.HOWL> John K. Hohm writes: > Quoting Dieter Maurer : > > John K. Hohm writes: > > > I have a Page Template and Python Script that are working fairly well > > > together to generate a navigational menu on my site, and now I want to > > > make them part of a product. I have tried this: > > > > The "context" equivalent in a Python product's method > > is usually "self.aq_parent"; the "container" equivalent > > "self.aq_inner.aq_parent". > > I expected you to be right, so I tried a simple method like this: > > security.declarePublic('foo') > def foo(self): > """Test method""" > return self.aq_parent.absolute_url() > > When called through the web, it displays the URL for the parent of the instance > that defines foo, not the object on which I'm calling the method. Aargh! You are right and I need to be more careful! Accessing a method can restrict acquisition information. The precise rules are difficult to grasp, but it is easy to present a case where you are unable to obtain the true context: An acquisition wrapper has two components "self" and "parent". When you look up an attribute (such as a method) it is first looked up in "self" and, if this lookup fails, it is looked up in "parent". When the lookup in "self" fails, the method's "self" will not have the full acquisition context and ".aq_parent" will not give to true context. Otherwise, it might but need not be the case. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 21:42:47 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:42:47 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritance bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15854.30423.16684.482873@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Patrick Stinson writes: > I created a ZClass [from the web-interface] in a product with a certain dtml > method, then inherited another ZClass from it. after attempting to > re-distribute the product to move it to another machine, I noticed that the > product was no-longer redistributable, and therefore I could not edit any of > the classes within it. > > What I decided to do was import/export all of the ZObjects in the product > manually and import them into a new product on a different machine (which > I'll have to do when I move it again to my production machine). Everything > seems to have worked fine except that the second ZClass' methods that should > have been inherited from the first ZClass seem to have been permenantly > cached and frozen in that class in their forms from the moment the first > ZClass was exported and re-imported. > > I can't modify the stale methods because they were inherited, and therefore > have to management interface in the subclass. Is there a way to resolve > this? Also, the re-distribution problem is fairly severe unless everyone > develops on production servers... I have read in the mailing list archives about problems with ZClass inheritance when the inherited class lives in a different product. If both classes are in the same product, I think, I was able to successfully export and reimport the complete product. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Wed Dec 4 20:41:09 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:41:09 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Return results immediately but continue processing In-Reply-To: <3DED2ED1.1000706@gmx.net> References: <3DEBD89D.70201@verio.net> <3DED2ED1.1000706@gmx.net> Message-ID: <15854.26725.275006.654286@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Oliver Bleutgen writes: > Dieter Maurer wrote: > [About finding out if the client closes the connection ...] > > > > > The "RESPONSE" object has a connection to the channel with > > high probability. Start your exploration there. > > > Totally guessing here, but maybe it's worth trying if RESPONSE.write() > throws an exception if the connection is closed. I would not expect it. The medusa thread controlling the channel and the Zope "worker" thread are decoupled by a so called "producer". "write" appends to the producer. > If not, it should. Maybe, but "RESPONSE.write" is (should be) used only in exceptional cases. You want an additional way to signal the worker thread that what it does in no longer of interest. Some flag, it may check or (even better) an appropriate signal (which formerly was delivered only to the main thread but now might also be delivered to other threads (when I understood this correctly)). Dieter From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 22:37:53 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:37:53 -0500 Subject: [Zope] security and domain References: Message-ID: Use Access Rules. They will transparently watch all the requests to any object within a folder(or the root), and perform what you want based on them. Also, you may find useful the following how-to: http://wohnheim.fh-wedel.de/~dietmar/wohnheim/access.html Ausum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas LAURANCE" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:07 AM Subject: [Zope] security and domain > hello zopers, > > Here is my situation : > > I have a zope hosted behind apache and virtual monster > When i need the ip address of a visitor I use HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR > > I want some users to log only from a specific IP for example : > 100.100.50.25 > > If I set 'domain' in the acl_user fiels to that IP, it doesn't work, I > guess the domain it returns is the domain of the Apache or proxy server. > Is there a workaround for the domain to be checked against the > HHTP_X_FORWARDED instead of the IP_ADDRESS > ??? > > Any help or pointers is welcome... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From sejinoh@yspc.org Wed Dec 4 22:45:41 2002 From: sejinoh@yspc.org (sejinoh) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:45:41 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Error on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10. Message-ID: <20021204224541.7415.qmail@yspc.org> Greeding everyone. I was on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10 and I got this error message: Error Type: NameError Error Value: global name 'localzone' is not defined can any fellow friends teach me how to fix this problem? I went through all 12 tutorial lessons and it's great.. except this lesson 10. Thanks in advance. -- sejinoh@yspc.org From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Wed Dec 4 23:21:10 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:21:10 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Error on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10. In-Reply-To: <20021204224541.7415.qmail@yspc.org> References: <20021204224541.7415.qmail@yspc.org> Message-ID: sejinoh wrote: > Greeding everyone. > I was on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10 and I got this error message: > Error Type: NameError > Error Value: global name 'localzone' is not defined > can any fellow friends teach me how to fix this problem? > I went through all 12 tutorial lessons and it's great.. except this > lesson 10. Hi, seems to be you are using the official Zope-2.6-Release. It has a bug in the DateTime-Module. Fix: http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/datetime_260_fix -mj From andy@agmweb.ca Wed Dec 4 23:30:49 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:30:49 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Error on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10. References: <20021204224541.7415.qmail@yspc.org> Message-ID: <008401c29bed$2df28c60$0201a8c0@cr582427a> This is a bug in Zope http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/datetime_260_fix -- Andy McKay ----- Original Message ----- From: "sejinoh" To: "Zope" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: [Zope] Error on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10. > Greeding everyone. > > I was on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10 and I got this error message: > > Error Type: NameError > Error Value: global name 'localzone' is not defined > > can any fellow friends teach me how to fix this problem? > I went through all 12 tutorial lessons and it's great.. except this lesson > 10. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > sejinoh@yspc.org > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From jleeson@educationau.edu.au Wed Dec 4 23:47:34 2002 From: jleeson@educationau.edu.au (Jerry Leeson) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:17:34 +1030 Subject: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 Message-ID: <7EDCCCA73ECBD41193F6000629133194B051A8@SERVER4> I have installed Zope 2.6 in a Windows 2000 environment and the Zope service will not work. In the event log I get the following error: The instance's SvcRun() method failed File "C:\INETPUB\wwwroot\TESTZOPE\bin\lib\win32\lib\win32serviceutil.py", line 601, in SvcRun self.SvcDoRun() File "C:\INETPUB\wwwroot\TESTZOPE\ZServer\ZService.py", line 181, in SvcDoRun self.start_zserver() File "C:\INETPUB\wwwroot\TESTZOPE\ZServer\ZService.py", line 203, in start_zserver None, None, 0, 0, None, None, win32process.STARTUPINFO()) pywintypes.api_error: (3, 'CreateProcess', 'The system cannot find the path specified.') Is there some sort of path setting that is not being set during the install? Alternatively, I could try to use IIS or Apache webserver but the administration guide does not seem to be available yet to tell me how to do so. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. From andy@agmweb.ca Wed Dec 4 23:52:35 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:52:35 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 References: <7EDCCCA73ECBD41193F6000629133194B051A8@SERVER4> Message-ID: <011d01c29bf0$3878eaa0$0201a8c0@cr582427a> What do your registry settings for the service point at? Just a pointer but it looks like you've installed Zope in the directory IIS serves from. There's nothing wrong with that, but I wouldnt recommend it. > Alternatively, I could try to use IIS or Apache webserver but the You still need to run Zope regardless if you run IIS or Apache. -- Andy McKay From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 23:52:15 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Zope] membership management References: Message-ID: Full-blown membership management is a to-do feature in current Zope/CMF releases, maybe due to the many different scenarios at where it would be required. Many developers prefer to rely on LDAP users databases, as they already offer users handling and search features. Use LDAPUserFolder to hook to one of them, in replace of the current UserFolder. (New ZopeOrg is going to use this alongside other custom tools). Also you may want to try ExtensibleUserFolders (XUF), as they offer UIs to members properties handling. Anyway none of the two is a membership management tool, just aids. In both cases I'm also interested in getting to know some success stories. :) Ausum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Morgan" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: [Zope] membership management > I'm wondering what folks are using/recommending for managing membership on a > Zope/CMF/Plone site. I don't have any sort of external membership sources to > deal with. > > thanks, > > Danny > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From andy@agmweb.ca Thu Dec 5 00:05:18 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:05:18 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 References: <7EDCCCA73ECBD41193F6000629133194B051AA@SERVER4> Message-ID: <000701c29bf1$fee55060$0201a8c0@cr582427a> That looks fine, but thats the problem given the error message, Python is having some problem find the service. Im cc'ing the list so other people can see. -- Andy McKay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Leeson" To: "'Andy McKay'" Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 > Hi Andy, > Your right, I shouldn't have installed it in the IIS directory but here is > the setting that I think you are referring to: > > ImagePath : REG_SZ : > c:\Inetpub\wwwroot\TestZope\bin\lib\win32\PythonService.exe > > Jerry. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy McKay [mailto:andy@agmweb.ca] > Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:23 AM > To: Jerry Leeson; zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 > > > What do your registry settings for the service point at? > > Just a pointer but it looks like you've installed Zope in the directory IIS > serves from. There's nothing wrong with that, but I wouldnt recommend it. > > > Alternatively, I could try to use IIS or Apache webserver but the > > You still need to run Zope regardless if you run IIS or Apache. > -- > Andy McKay From mlong@datalong.com Thu Dec 5 00:08:00 2002 From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long) Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 19:08:00 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Unexpected script behavior Message-ID: Thanks Dieter, I have two DA instances defined for testing and had not updated one of the methods to use the correct one. Now all is well. BTW: / SuSE 7.3 / Zope 2.5 / Postgres 7.1.2 / --Mike > Michael Long writes: > > I am getting unexpected results from my python script. Here is a snippet > > form the python script: > > > > container.DeletePerson_sql(PersonId=PersonId) --[ZSQL Method] > > ClearPersonDetails() --[Python function] > > PersonList = container.GetPersonList_sql() --[ZSQL Method] > > request.set('PersonList', PersonList) > > return container.ContactTemplate() --[ZPT] > > > > After the person is successfully deleted from the database another call > > to the database is made to get a list of people and set that to > > 'PersonList'. This variable is then used to render the page. The problem > > is that the deleted person still shows up in the rendered page. When the > > page is called a second time the correct data is shown. I have validated > > that the data is deleted from the database when expected. Why would the > > 'PersonList' not have the correct data? > This looks like your database had a funny transaction concept. > > What database are you using? > What database adapter? > Are both ZSQL methods using the same DA instance? > > > Dieter > > From tino@wildenhain.de Thu Dec 5 00:31:25 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 01:31:25 +0100 Subject: [Zope] objectValues return value In-Reply-To: <20021204101756.C14602@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021204101756.C14602@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <26174486.1039051885@liza> Hi David, --On Mittwoch, 4. Dezember 2002 10:17 -0700 David Bear wrote: > I wrote a script the returns a list object of all title_or_id values of > objects in a folder. The problem is when there are no objects in the > folder. The script should return a list contianing the string 'none'.. > but doesn't. In fact, the script seems to either hang or have no return > value... > > Any pointers? the method is designed to return a list, so if no objects are in - the list is empty. An empty list is not None! return [zpt.title_or_id() for zpt in context.objectValues('Page Template')] or 'none' would do the job. But I dont think its very usefull to return different datatype (list vs. string) on different conditions. What do you want to do with the result after that? Regards Tino ># returns a python list contained the title of the page templates in this ># folder > list = context.objectValues('Page Template') > if list == None: > return ['none'] > newlist = [] > for zpt in list: > newlist.append(zpt.title_or_id()) > return newlist > > > -- > > David Bear > College of Public Programs/ASU > Mail Code 0803 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From jleeson@educationau.edu.au Thu Dec 5 00:37:10 2002 From: jleeson@educationau.edu.au (Jerry Leeson) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:07:10 +1030 Subject: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 Message-ID: <7EDCCCA73ECBD41193F6000629133194B051AB@SERVER4> Thanks Andy for your help on this - the problem was in the registry. There was another registry setting ..\Services\\Parameters\Start that was not being set by the installation process (the Start parameter had retained the default directory information for python.exe). I re-installed Zope using the default settings and everything works ok. Jerry. -----Original Message----- From: Andy McKay [mailto:andy@agmweb.ca] Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2002 10:23 AM To: Jerry Leeson; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Problem running Zope on Windows 2000 What do your registry settings for the service point at? Just a pointer but it looks like you've installed Zope in the directory IIS serves from. There's nothing wrong with that, but I wouldnt recommend it. > Alternatively, I could try to use IIS or Apache webserver but the You still need to run Zope regardless if you run IIS or Apache. -- Andy McKay From jhohm@acm.org Thu Dec 5 04:34:48 2002 From: jhohm@acm.org (John Hohm) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:34:48 -0600 Subject: [Zope] context in a Product's python code (not Python Script) In-Reply-To: <15854.29119.782306.564284@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <1038593340.3de7ad3c71cf2@redemption.trnty.edu> <1038971146.3ded710a45dd1@redemption.trnty.edu> <15854.29119.782306.564284@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <20021205043448.GA3068@happyhappy.dyndns.org> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:21:03PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote: > John K. Hohm writes: > > Quoting Dieter Maurer : > > > John K. Hohm writes: > > > > I have a Page Template and Python Script that are working fairly well > > > > together to generate a navigational menu on my site, and now I want to > > > > make them part of a product. I have tried this: > > > > > > The "context" equivalent in a Python product's method > > > is usually "self.aq_parent"; the "container" equivalent > > > "self.aq_inner.aq_parent". > > > > I expected you to be right, so I tried a simple method like this: > > > > security.declarePublic('foo') > > def foo(self): > > """Test method""" > > return self.aq_parent.absolute_url() > > > > When called through the web, it displays the URL for the parent of the instance > > that defines foo, not the object on which I'm calling the method. Aargh! > You are right and I need to be more careful! > > Accessing a method can restrict acquisition information. > > The precise rules are difficult to grasp, but it is easy > to present a case where you are unable to obtain the true context: > > An acquisition wrapper has two components "self" and "parent". > When you look up an attribute (such as a method) it is > first looked up in "self" and, if this lookup fails, > it is looked up in "parent". > > When the lookup in "self" fails, the method's "self" > will not have the full acquisition > context and ".aq_parent" will not give > to true context. > Otherwise, it might but need not be the case. You seem to be saying that luck is required for a method to get proper acquisition information. How can this be? Aren't methods acquired all over the place? What alternatives to methods exist for defining objects that can be acquired? From skip@pobox.com Thu Dec 5 05:10:41 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:10:41 -0600 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods Message-ID: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> I think I may have encountered this problem before and asked about it. If so, any solutions offered at that time escape me now. I have this ZSQL method (get_workorder): id worker_id end_date select * from work_order

; In a Python script I want to call it like so: workorders = context.sql.get_workorder(worker_id=worker_id, end_date='2003-04-23') that is, omit the presumably optional id parameter. However, when the Python script is run, the ZSQL method complains "Invalid integer value for id". I also tried these forms: workorders = context.sql.get_workorder(**{'worker_id': worker_id, 'end_date': '2003-04-23'}) workorders = context.sql.get_workorder(**{'id': None, 'worker_id': worker_id, 'end_date': '2003-04-23'}) workorders = context.sql.get_workorder(id=None, worker_id=worker_id, end_date='2003-04-23') without success. The first form gave the same error as above. The other two gave "object can't be converted to int". How do I arrange things so I can call get_workorder without passing the id parameter? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ From sejinoh@yspc.org Thu Dec 5 05:54:34 2002 From: sejinoh@yspc.org (sejinoh) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 00:54:34 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: Error on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10. In-Reply-To: References: <20021204224541.7415.qmail@yspc.org> Message-ID: <20021205055434.8385.qmail@yspc.org> Thank you for everyone who responded to help me. any other bug on 2.6 that I need to update? Thanks in advance. :) Maik Jablonski writes: > sejinoh wrote: >> Greeding everyone. >> I was on Zope Tutorial Lesson 10 and I got this error message: >> Error Type: NameError >> Error Value: global name 'localzone' is not defined >> can any fellow friends teach me how to fix this problem? >> I went through all 12 tutorial lessons and it's great.. except this >> lesson 10. > > Hi, > > seems to be you are using the official Zope-2.6-Release. It has a bug in > the DateTime-Module. > > Fix: http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/datetime_260_fix > > -mj > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Sejin Oh sejinoh@yspc.org From l.steinborn@4c-ag.de Thu Dec 5 05:55:04 2002 From: l.steinborn@4c-ag.de (Lutz Steinborn) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:55:04 +0100 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20021205065504.519e93ed.l.steinborn@4c-ag.de> Good morning, I'am not shure but I have in my mind that Zope didn't like identifiers wi= th the string id in it in ZSQL. Try worker_foo. Have a nice day. Lutz Steinborn On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:10:41 -0600 Skip Montanaro wrote: > I think I may have encountered this problem before and asked about it.=20 > If so, any solutions offered at that time escape me now. I have this > ZSQL method (get_workorder): >=20 > id > worker_id > end_date > select * from work_order > > > > > > > > ; >=20 > In a Python script I want to call it like so: >=20 > workorders =3D context.sql.get_workorder(worker_id=3Dworker_id, > end_date=3D'2003-04-23') >=20 > that is, omit the presumably optional id parameter. However, when the > Python script is run, the ZSQL method complains "Invalid integer value > for id". I also tried these forms: >=20 > workorders =3D context.sql.get_workorder(**{'worker_id': worker_id, > 'end_date': '2003-04-23'}= ) >=20 > workorders =3D context.sql.get_workorder(**{'id': None, > 'worker_id': worker_id, > 'end_date': '2003-04-23'}= ) >=20 > workorders =3D context.sql.get_workorder(id=3DNone, > worker_id=3Dworker_id, > end_date=3D'2003-04-23') >=20 >=20 > without success. The first form gave the same error as above. The oth= er > two gave "object can't be converted to int". >=20 > How do I arrange things so I can call get_workorder without passing > the id parameter? >=20 > Thx, >=20 > --=20 > Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com > http://www.mojam.com/ > http://www.musi-cal.com/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists -=20 > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) --=20 Lutz Steinborn mailto:l.steinborn@4c-ag.de 4c AG Tel +49 6092 999592 Stefan-George-Ring 22-24 Fax +49 89 99341 399 81929 M=FCnchen http://www.4c-shopping.de From skip@pobox.com Thu Dec 5 06:03:48 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:03:48 -0600 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <20021205065504.519e93ed.l.steinborn@4c-ag.de> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20021205065504.519e93ed.l.steinborn@4c-ag.de> Message-ID: <15854.60484.555889.196343@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lutz> I'am not shure but I have in my mind that Zope didn't like Lutz> identifiers with the string id in it in ZSQL. Try worker_foo. Thanks, I will check it out. Alas, that means I also need to ALTER TABLE in PostgreSQL... -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ From jo@meder.de Thu Dec 5 07:32:07 2002 From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:32:07 +0100 Subject: [Zope] context in a Product's python code (not Python Script) In-Reply-To: <20021205043448.GA3068@happyhappy.dyndns.org> References: <1038593340.3de7ad3c71cf2@redemption.trnty.edu> <1038971146.3ded710a45dd1@redemption.trnty.edu> <15854.29119.782306.564284@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20021205043448.GA3068@happyhappy.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20021205073207.GA14950@meder.de> Am 05.12.2002, 05:34 Uhr schrab John Hohm : > You seem to be saying that luck is required for a method to get proper > acquisition information. How can this be? Aren't methods acquired all over > the place? What alternatives to methods exist for defining objects that can > be acquired? This is far from efficient, but if you're really desperate you can try the following approach (untested code, may contain errors): myurl=self.absolute_url() mypath=myurl[len(Request.get("URL0"))+1:] thisisme=self.restrictedTraverse(mypath) Jo. -- Internetmanufaktur Jo Meder ---------------------- Berlin, Germany http://www.meder.de/ ------------------- fon: ++49-30-417 17 63 33 Kollwitzstr. 75 ------------------------ fax: ++49-30-417 17 63 45 10435 Berlin --------------------------- mob: ++49-170- 2 98 89 97 Public GnuPG-Key ---------- http://www.meder.de/keys/jo-pubkey.txt From jo@meder.de Thu Dec 5 07:36:38 2002 From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:36:38 +0100 Subject: [Zope] context in a Product's python code (not Python Script) In-Reply-To: <20021205073207.GA14950@meder.de> References: <1038593340.3de7ad3c71cf2@redemption.trnty.edu> <1038971146.3ded710a45dd1@redemption.trnty.edu> <15854.29119.782306.564284@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20021205043448.GA3068@happyhappy.dyndns.org> <20021205073207.GA14950@meder.de> Message-ID: <20021205073638.GB14950@meder.de> Am 05.12.2002, 08:32 Uhr schrab Jo Meder : I hate to follow up to myself, but here you go: first error found. Sorry. > myurl=self.absolute_url() > mypath=myurl[len(Request.get("URL0"))+1:] Should be mypath=myurl[len(Request.get("BASE0"))+1:] > thisisme=self.restrictedTraverse(mypath) Sorry again. Jo. -- Internetmanufaktur Jo Meder ---------------------- Berlin, Germany http://www.meder.de/ ------------------- fon: ++49-30-417 17 63 33 Kollwitzstr. 75 ------------------------ fax: ++49-30-417 17 63 45 10435 Berlin --------------------------- mob: ++49-170- 2 98 89 97 Public GnuPG-Key ---------- http://www.meder.de/keys/jo-pubkey.txt From antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com Thu Dec 5 08:39:05 2002 From: antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com (Antonio Beamud Montero) Date: 05 Dec 2002 09:39:05 +0100 Subject: [Zope] One time persistent variable Message-ID: <1039077546.767.9.camel@praga.agora-2000.com> Hi all: How I can make a variable from a Product persistent, but only exists a copy in the ZODB?, i.e. this variable is updated every 30 sec. and I don't want ZODB saves all old states of this variable, only the last... How I can make this...? Thanks in advance -- Microsoft merges technologies: Windows CE + Windows ME + Windows NT = Windows CEMENT ---- Antonio Beamud Montero Agora Systems S.A. http://www.agoratechnologies.com From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Thu Dec 5 09:29:33 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:29:33 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Unknown error In-Reply-To: <15854.31670.85277.935653@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <200212041657.05725.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <15854.31670.85277.935653@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <200212051129.33613.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Thursday 05 December 2002 00:03, Dieter Maurer wrote: > > ZODB.POSException.ConflictError > Please search the mailing list archives. > > You will find dozens of questions like yours. > And almost as many explanations ;-) Oopps. Sorry, I go to... --=20 Regards, Bogdan Give a man a computer program and you give him a headache, but teach him to program computers and you give him the power to create headaches for others for the rest of his life... R. B. Forest From duebendorfer@tik.ee.ethz.ch Thu Dec 5 09:53:38 2002 From: duebendorfer@tik.ee.ethz.ch (Thomas Duebendorfer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:53:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] How to check with ZOPE/Python if file "x.html" exists in path container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath()? In-Reply-To: <15854.31705.646777.966725@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Thomas Duebendorfer writes: > > I simply want to check in a ZOPE/Python script, whether the file "x.html" > > exists at the exact path defined by container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath(). > > And I want to make sure that ZOPE does NO TRAVERSAL, i.e. does not > > look in folders above the given path in case the file was not found. > Please search the mailing list archives for "aq_base". > > Dieter I found a the following solution: myfile = 'x.html' if(hasattr(container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].aq_explicit, myfile)): # file exists (no traversal) else: # file does not exist (no traversal) (Note: .aq_base did not work) Regards, Thomas From thierry.florac@onf.fr Thu Dec 5 12:24:29 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 05 Dec 2002 13:24:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <15854.60484.555889.196343@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20021205065504.519e93ed.l.steinborn@4c-ag.de> <15854.60484.555889.196343@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1039091069.29246.10.camel@m22241> On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 07:03, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Lutz> I'am not shure but I have in my mind that Zope didn't like > Lutz> identifiers with the string id in it in ZSQL. Try worker_foo. > > Thanks, I will check it out. Alas, that means I also need to ALTER TABLE in > PostgreSQL... No. Just use in your SQL template... Thierry From jwashin@vt.edu Thu Dec 5 12:59:09 2002 From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 07:59:09 -0500 Subject: [Zope] One time persistent variable In-Reply-To: <1039077546.767.9.camel@praga.agora-2000.com> References: <1039077546.767.9.camel@praga.agora-2000.com> Message-ID: <3DEF4D9D.1040904@vt.edu> Antonio Beamud Montero wrote: >Hi all: >How I can make a variable from a Product persistent, but only exists a >copy in the ZODB?, i.e. this variable is updated every 30 sec. and I >don't want ZODB saves all old states of this variable, only the last... >How I can make this...? > >Thanks in advance > > You do not specify whether it is a file-system Product or ZODB Product. My preference would be to go simpler, rather than installing a non-replicating storage for something small like this. That is, however, an option (search for non-replicating storage). If it is a filesystem product, you have the option of writing the data to a file. I would look at the FSCounter Product for an example of how this would be done. If it is a ZODB product, use gadfly (you already have this!) or another SQL database if you are using one. Create a database and table and Z[your Db] Adapter, if necessary, then 'get' and 'set' ZSQL Methods. If it is a complicated variable, like a class instance, you might want to investigate the python "pickle" function. This normally will only be available to a filesystem product or External Method. You have many options. -- Jim Washington From Ulrich Wisser Thu Dec 5 15:16:16 2002 From: Ulrich Wisser (Ulrich Wisser) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:16:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <7287882752.20021205161616@publisher.de> Hello Skip, "id" is obviously a very bad name for a user variable in Zope. rename it and use But I belive your problem will not be solved this way. You probably defined the parameter with "id:int worker_id:int end_date_string", didn't you? In that case Zope will test the parameter type before rendering the method, I am not quite sute what is the best solution, maybe remove the type identifier at all or try with a default argument id:int=None (id:int=_.None) Hope it helps Ulrich -- Searchengine Know How - Webpromotion - Optimization - Internal Search World Wide Web Publisher, Ulrich Wisser, Odensvag 13, S-14571 Norsborg http://www.publisher.de Tel: +46-8-53460905 Fax: +46-8-534 609 06 From phil@harris-family.info Thu Dec 5 15:27:30 2002 From: phil@harris-family.info (Phil Harris) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:27:30 +0000 Subject: [Zope] How to check with ZOPE/Python if file "x.html" exists in path container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath()? In-Reply-To: References: <15854.31705.646777.966725@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <20021205152730.00004669.phil@harris-family.info> This also works: if myfile in container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].aq_explicit.objectIds(): # file exists (no traversal) else: # file does not exist (no traversal) hth Phil On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:53:38 +0100 (CET) Thomas Duebendorfer wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Dieter Maurer wrote: > > Thomas Duebendorfer writes: > > > I simply want to check in a ZOPE/Python script, whether the file "x.html" > > > exists at the exact path defined by container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].getPhysicalPath(). > > > And I want to make sure that ZOPE does NO TRAVERSAL, i.e. does not > > > look in folders above the given path in case the file was not found. > > Please search the mailing list archives for "aq_base". > > > > Dieter > > I found a the following solution: > > myfile = 'x.html' > > if(hasattr(container.REQUEST.PARENTS[0].aq_explicit, myfile)): > # file exists (no traversal) > else: > # file does not exist (no traversal) > > (Note: .aq_base did not work) > > > Regards, > > Thomas > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From vattekkat.babu@verizon.net Thu Dec 5 16:14:53 2002 From: vattekkat.babu@verizon.net (S Babu) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:14:53 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? Message-ID: <3DEF7B7D.5090206@verizon.net> Hello, I've a python script that works nicely from python xmlrpclib client. I'd like to use it to work from the browser, preferably using vcXMLRPC library ( www.vcdn.org/Public/XMLRPC/). py script is called "str" and is in http://localhost:8080/services . It takes one parameter s and has one line "return 'ret' + s All I get in the browser is None as the return value from the service. Any idea? --- html -- TIA S Babu From thierry.florac@onf.fr Thu Dec 5 16:19:42 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 05 Dec 2002 17:19:42 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Class property in object creation form Message-ID: <1039105182.29246.40.camel@m22241> Hi, I'm currently building several Zope products working quite well but with which I have a problem : how can I define class properties (most often defined as lists actually) and use them in my creation forms written in DTML. For example, I've tried to use: in file MyProduct.py : class MyProduct(...): MyProductProperty = [ 'item1', 'item2', 'item3' ] def getMyProductProperty(self): return MyProduct.MyProductProperty in file __init__.py : import MyProduct ... def initialize(context): context.registerClass (MyProduct.MyProduct,...) ... methods={'myproduct_property':MyProduct.MyProduct.getMyProductProperty} and finally in my DTML file : ... But when I call my creation script from the ZMI, I get an error: Traceback (innermost last): * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish * Module Zope, line 171, in zpublisher_exception_hook * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__ * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec * Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 628, in renderwob * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval __traceback_info__: myproduct_property * Module , line 0, in ? * Module None, line 58, in getMyProductProperty ImportError: No module named MyProduct I forgot to tell you that I use Zope-2.6.0 with Python-2.1.3, and that I didn't found any good example or documentation about this point anywhere... Thanks for any help, Thierry -- Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away... http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net From skip@pobox.com Thu Dec 5 16:20:33 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:20:33 -0600 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <1039091069.29246.10.camel@m22241> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20021205065504.519e93ed.l.steinborn@4c-ag.de> <15854.60484.555889.196343@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1039091069.29246.10.camel@m22241> Message-ID: <15855.31953.231977.694668@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Thanks, I will check it out. Alas, that means I also need to ALTER >> TABLE in PostgreSQL... Thierry> No. Just use in your SQL Thierry> template... Ah, thanks. Where is the column=... attribute described? I don't remember seeing it in the ZSQL chapter of the Zope Book. Did I just miss it? -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ From jwashin@vt.edu Thu Dec 5 16:25:21 2002 From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:25:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF7B7D.5090206@verizon.net> References: <3DEF7B7D.5090206@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3DEF7DF1.8030401@vt.edu> Hi I had the same problem last week. vcXMLRPC puts strings into a CDATA section, which seems to be a problem. I modified their String.Prototype to look like this: String.prototype.toXMLRPC = function(){ // return "" + this.replace(/"; //.replace(/ Hello, > > I've a python script that works nicely from python xmlrpclib client. > I'd like to use it to work from the browser, preferably using vcXMLRPC > library ( www.vcdn.org/Public/XMLRPC/). > > py script is called "str" and is in http://localhost:8080/services . > It takes one parameter s and has one line "return 'ret' + s > > All I get in the browser is None as the return value from the service. > Any idea? > > --- html -- > > > > > TIA > S Babu > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From skip@pobox.com Thu Dec 5 16:31:02 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:31:02 -0600 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <7287882752.20021205161616@publisher.de> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <7287882752.20021205161616@publisher.de> Message-ID: <15855.32582.74306.31331@montanaro.dyndns.org> Ulrich> "id" is obviously a very bad name for a user variable in Ulrich> Zope. Obvious to who? "id" is a lovely parameter name in Python as long as you're aware you're hiding the rarely used id() builtin. The Zope community seems to be filled with lore that isn't codified anywhere or at best is written down in a sea of howto documents. Ulrich> But I belive your problem will not be solved this way. You Ulrich> probably defined the parameter with "id:int worker_id:int Ulrich> end_date_string", didn't you? Nope. Just the way I indicated: id worker_id end_date no type specifier in the params list, just in the tags Ulrich> what is the best solution, maybe remove the type identifier at Ulrich> all or try with a default argument id:int=None (id:int=_.None) Thanks, I'll give it a try. Skip From bkc@murkworks.com Thu Dec 5 16:55:22 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:55:22 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF7B7D.5090206@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3DEF3D4B.15473.572DC6F@localhost> > I've a python script that works nicely from python xmlrpclib client. I'd > like to use it to work from the browser, preferably using vcXMLRPC library > ( www.vcdn.org/Public/XMLRPC/). You should have also posted your python script. I don't use the the getService method in vcXMLRPC, my javascript code is below.. Zope's xmlrpc needs an exact argument count match to call a PythonScript. So, all of my Python Scripts take two arguments: rqType="", rqDict={} where rqType is a string, and rqDict is a variable argument list. Here's some javascript code: oStruct = { orgid:currentOrgID, profiletype:profiletype, profile:selectedValue, instanceDict:handler.getInstanceDict() } updateButtonObject.disabled = true; try { result = XMLRPC.call(OrgBaseURL,OrgBaseProcessRequest,"SelectProfile",oStruct); if(result != "true") alert(result); else { loadProfilesForOrg(currentOrgID); } } catch(err) { if(err instanceof Error) alert("Unexpected Error Org UpdateProfile:"+err.message); else alert("Unexpected Error Org UpdateProfile:"+err); } oStruct ends up in rqDict in the Pythonscript, and rqType == 'SelectProfile' OrgBaseURL and stuff is set like this: var OrgBaseURL=''; var OrgBaseProcessRequest = "Orgs.XMLRPCRequest_py"; Note that my javascript file is a DTML method. XMLRPCRequest_py is the PythonScript id Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From pw_lists@slinkp.com Thu Dec 5 16:57:28 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:57:28 -0800 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <15855.32582.74306.31331@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <7287882752.20021205161616@publisher.de> <15855.32582.74306.31331@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20021205165728.GA26494@slinkp.com> On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 10:31:02AM -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Ulrich> "id" is obviously a very bad name for a user variable in > Ulrich> Zope. > > Obvious to who? "Obvious" is always debatable... but here's my thoughts on this issue: every object in the ZODB has an id attribute which can be accessed by its getId() method, and which is used to qualify which object within a folder (or other ObjectManager) you want, e.g. http://my_zope_server:8080/foo/bar/getId ...or in python... context.foo.bar.getId() ... or just... context.foo.bar.id ... either one yields the string "bar". In python I'd say id might be ok to use as a variable name, as long as you don't mind hiding that builtin (which would be reason enough for me not to do it.) As for dtml, already means something: it's equivalent to context.id in a python script. And your original question referred to DTML. So I wouldn't ever define "id" in a dtml situation. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From vattekkat.babu@verizon.net Thu Dec 5 17:01:44 2002 From: vattekkat.babu@verizon.net (S Babu) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:01:44 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF3D4B.15473.572DC6F@localhost> References: <3DEF3D4B.15473.572DC6F@localhost> Message-ID: <3DEF8678.4060004@verizon.net> Brad, My py script is just one line return "ret" + s I had to setup vcXMLRPC to send data NOT embedded in CDATA sections as mentioned by Jim Washington. However, the final application is for tidying html source - so I need to use CDATA :-) S Babu http://vsbabu.org Brad Clements wrote: >>I've a python script that works nicely from python xmlrpclib client. I'd >>like to use it to work from the browser, preferably using vcXMLRPC library >>( www.vcdn.org/Public/XMLRPC/). >> >> > >You should have also posted your python script. > >I don't use the the getService method in vcXMLRPC, my javascript code is below.. > >Zope's xmlrpc needs an exact argument count match to call a PythonScript. > >So, all of my Python Scripts take two arguments: > >rqType="", rqDict={} > >where rqType is a string, and rqDict is a variable argument list. > > >Here's some javascript code: > > > oStruct = { > orgid:currentOrgID, > profiletype:profiletype, > profile:selectedValue, > instanceDict:handler.getInstanceDict() > } > updateButtonObject.disabled = true; > try { > result = XMLRPC.call(OrgBaseURL,OrgBaseProcessRequest,"SelectProfile",oStruct); > if(result != "true") > alert(result); > else { > loadProfilesForOrg(currentOrgID); > } > } > catch(err) { > if(err instanceof Error) > alert("Unexpected Error Org UpdateProfile:"+err.message); > else > alert("Unexpected Error Org UpdateProfile:"+err); > } > > >oStruct ends up in rqDict in the Pythonscript, and rqType == 'SelectProfile' > >OrgBaseURL and stuff is set like this: > >var OrgBaseURL=''; >var OrgBaseProcessRequest = "Orgs.XMLRPCRequest_py"; > >Note that my javascript file is a DTML method. > >XMLRPCRequest_py is the PythonScript id > > > > > >Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 >http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax >AOL-IM: BKClements > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > From thierry.florac@onf.fr Thu Dec 5 17:14:17 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 05 Dec 2002 18:14:17 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Class property in object creation form In-Reply-To: <1039105182.29246.40.camel@m22241> References: <1039105182.29246.40.camel@m22241> Message-ID: <1039108457.29246.51.camel@m22241> On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 17:19, Thierry Florac wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm currently building several Zope products working quite well but with > which I have a problem : how can I define class properties (most often > defined as lists actually) and use them in my creation forms written in > DTML. > > For example, I've tried to use: > > in file MyProduct.py : > > class MyProduct(...): > MyProductProperty = [ 'item1', 'item2', 'item3' ] > > def getMyProductProperty(self): > return MyProduct.MyProductProperty > > > in file __init__.py : > > import MyProduct > ... > def initialize(context): > context.registerClass (MyProduct.MyProduct,...) > ... > methods={'myproduct_property':MyProduct.MyProduct.getMyProductProperty} > > > and finally in my DTML file : > > > ... > > > > But when I call my creation script from the ZMI, I get an error: > > Traceback (innermost last): > > * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module > * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish > * Module Zope, line 171, in zpublisher_exception_hook > * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish > * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply > * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object > * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__ > * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec > * Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec > * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 628, in renderwob > * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval > __traceback_info__: myproduct_property > * Module , line 0, in ? > * Module None, line 58, in getMyProductProperty > > ImportError: No module named MyProduct > After a few additionnal tests, I 've tried another solution, with : in MyProduct.py: MyProductProperties = [ 'item1', 'item2', 'item3' ] def getMyProductProperty(self): return MyProductProperties and in __init__.py: methods={'myproduct_property': MyProduct.getMyProductProperty Not everything works fine and without errors when and restart Zope. But if I refresh my product, the list is empty in my DTML output. Any idea of what's wrong ?? Is there anything to do for my product to be refreshed correctly ?? Thanks, Thierry From bkc@murkworks.com Thu Dec 5 17:21:39 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:21:39 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF7DF1.8030401@vt.edu> References: <3DEF7B7D.5090206@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3DEF4373.13848.58AEB91@localhost> Date sent: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 11:25:21 -0500 > I had the same problem last week. vcXMLRPC puts strings into a CDATA > section, which seems to be a problem. I modified their String.Prototype > to look like this: My solution was to change the imports in Zope's xmlrpclib to get the better and faster sgmlop parser, which handles this correctly and is faster. In fact, I think Zope 2.6 has this "fix" now. Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From mj@zope.com Thu Dec 5 17:26:12 2002 From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:26:12 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF8678.4060004@verizon.net> References: <3DEF3D4B.15473.572DC6F@localhost> <3DEF8678.4060004@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20021205172612.GK525@zope.com> On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:01:44PM -0500, S Babu wrote: > I had to setup vcXMLRPC to send data NOT embedded in CDATA sections as > mentioned by Jim Washington. However, the final application is for > tidying html source - so I need to use CDATA :-) I fixed Zope's XML-RPC handler for Zope 2.6.0 to deal correctly with CDATA sections (the libarary's SLowParser class didn;t handle them) *and* made sure it would use Expat for faster responses. On the whole 2.6 is far nicer to work with when you use vcXMLRPC, provided you fix up the latter as well. The authors, unfortunately, have been very unresposive to my patches. My changes were to the fault handling, preserving the fault message as well as the fault code, and fixing a bug in their fault handling that presumed a certian DOM structure. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@zope.com | Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ --------------------------------------------- From mj@zope.com Thu Dec 5 17:27:05 2002 From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:27:05 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF4373.13848.58AEB91@localhost> References: <3DEF7B7D.5090206@verizon.net> <3DEF4373.13848.58AEB91@localhost> Message-ID: <20021205172705.GL525@zope.com> On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:21:39PM -0500, Brad Clements wrote: > In fact, I think Zope 2.6 has this "fix" now. Yes, and some improvements in error handling as well, making it possible to use XML-RPC over cookie authentication, for example. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@zope.com | Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ --------------------------------------------- From jwashin@vt.edu Thu Dec 5 17:42:54 2002 From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:42:54 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <20021205172612.GK525@zope.com> References: <3DEF3D4B.15473.572DC6F@localhost> <3DEF8678.4060004@verizon.net> <20021205172612.GK525@zope.com> Message-ID: <3DEF901E.3080603@vt.edu> Mmm. You said "patches" ... Any hope we could see them? Martijn Pieters wrote: >On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:01:44PM -0500, S Babu wrote: > > >>I had to setup vcXMLRPC to send data NOT embedded in CDATA sections as >>mentioned by Jim Washington. However, the final application is for >>tidying html source - so I need to use CDATA :-) >> >> > >I fixed Zope's XML-RPC handler for Zope 2.6.0 to deal correctly with CDATA >sections (the libarary's SLowParser class didn;t handle them) *and* made >sure it would use Expat for faster responses. > >On the whole 2.6 is far nicer to work with when you use vcXMLRPC, provided >you fix up the latter as well. The authors, unfortunately, have been very >unresposive to my patches. My changes were to the fault handling, preserving >the fault message as well as the fault code, and fixing a bug in their fault >handling that presumed a certian DOM structure. > > > From skip@pobox.com Thu Dec 5 17:44:20 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:44:20 -0600 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <20021205165728.GA26494@slinkp.com> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <7287882752.20021205161616@publisher.de> <15855.32582.74306.31331@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20021205165728.GA26494@slinkp.com> Message-ID: <15855.36980.987992.265426@montanaro.dyndns.org> Paul> As for dtml, already means something: it's Paul> equivalent to context.id in a python script. And your original Paul> question referred to DTML. So I wouldn't ever define "id" in a Paul> dtml situation. Well, sort of. My original question was about a ZSQL method in which I take advantage of the dtml-sql* tags. I actually use Page Templates+ZSQL+Python scripts to implement stuff, not DTML, unless I can't avoid it (e.g. I have a small DTML page (less than 10 lines) that uses ). chided-about-id-I-am-ly, y'rs, Thx, Skip From mj@zope.com Thu Dec 5 17:51:33 2002 From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:51:33 -0500 Subject: [Zope] vcXMLRPC with Zope? In-Reply-To: <3DEF901E.3080603@vt.edu> References: <3DEF3D4B.15473.572DC6F@localhost> <3DEF8678.4060004@verizon.net> <20021205172612.GK525@zope.com> <3DEF901E.3080603@vt.edu> Message-ID: <20021205175133.GN525@zope.com> On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:42:54PM -0500, Jim Washington wrote: > Mmm. You said "patches" ... Any hope we could see them? You beat me to it; here are all relevant changes: diff -u -r1.1 -r1.3 --- vcXMLRPC.js 2002/08/23 16:26:58 1.1 +++ vcXMLRPC.js 2002/08/26 20:23:18 1.3 @@ -590,8 +590,11 @@ //Check for XMLRPC Errors rpcErr = dom.getElementsByTagName("fault"); if(rpcErr.length > 0){ - rpcErr = this.toObject(rpcErr[0].firstChild); - this.handleError(new Error(rpcErr.faultCode, rpcErr.faultString)); + rpcErr = this.toObject(rpcErr[0].getElementsByTagName("value")[0]); + fault = new Error(rpcErr.faultCode + ': ' + rpcErr.faultString); + fault.code = rpcErr.faultCode; + fault.string = rpcErr.faultString; + this.handleError(fault) return false } The above change makes vcXMLRPC robust in the face of whitespace in the fault XML tags and preserves the XML-RPC failt string and code as attributes on the error object. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@zope.com | Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ --------------------------------------------- From bz@bwanazulia.com Thu Dec 5 18:33:03 2002 From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:33:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Comparing directories & dumb question Message-ID: <49828.199.67.138.20.1039113183.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net> I am trying to write a snippet of code that will figure out what main directory you are in and display a different banner based on that. Should be simple as heck, well... it has been driving me crazy. Here is what I have and I know I am missing one stupid line of code or something. dtml-let section="_.string.split(_.string.lower(_.string.split(URL, '/')[3]), '.')">

show new header do something else

And this is the output and why it won't match which I think is because the first one is in a list. (??!) ['folder_name'] = folder_name Any help? BZ From David.Bear@asu.edu Thu Dec 5 18:35:17 2002 From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:35:17 -0700 Subject: [Zope] passing parms on url script Message-ID: <20021205113517.A16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> I have a script called 'stuff' which takes on parameter. I'd like to call it directly from a url. I've been googling but can see any syntax examples. How does one pass parameters to a script directly from a url from a browser? -- David Bear College of Public Programs/ASU Mail Code 0803 From David.Bear@asu.edu Thu Dec 5 18:41:23 2002 From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:41:23 -0700 Subject: [Zope] tal define and repeat Message-ID: <20021205114123.B16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> I have want to use something like

stuff

the listZPT is a script the returns a list of page template objects. this throws an TALES exception on repeat topic. Is it not possible to repeat over a list object in TAL? -- David Bear College of Public Programs/ASU Mail Code 0803 From jamie@audible.transient.net Thu Dec 5 18:44:55 2002 From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:44:55 -0800 Subject: [Zope] tal define and repeat In-Reply-To: <20021205114123.B16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021205114123.B16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <20021205184454.GV6368@stink-foot.audible.transient.net> David Bear wrote: >

stuff

> > the listZPT is a script the returns a list of page template objects. python:container.listZPT() perhaps? From mark@dimensional.com Thu Dec 5 19:12:05 2002 From: mark@dimensional.com (Mark Gibson) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:12:05 -0700 Subject: [Zope] tal define and repeat References: <20021205114123.B16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <3DEFA505.3080408@dimensional.com> David Bear wrote: > I have want to use something like > >

stuff

> > the listZPT is a script the returns a list of page template objects. > > this throws an TALES exception on repeat topic. > > Is it not possible to repeat over a list object in TAL? You need to 'call' your script: i.e.:

From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Thu Dec 5 19:51:42 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:51:42 -0500 Subject: [Zope] passing parms on url script References: <20021205113517.A16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: some_url/stuff_script?param_id_string=param_value_string Ausum ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bear" To: "zope" Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: [Zope] passing parms on url script > I have a script called 'stuff' which takes on parameter. > > I'd like to call it directly from a url. I've been googling but can see any syntax examples. How does one pass parameters to a script directly from a url from a browser? > > -- > > David Bear > College of Public Programs/ASU > Mail Code 0803 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From renfro@tntech.edu Thu Dec 5 19:56:52 2002 From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:56:52 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Comparing directories & dumb question In-Reply-To: <49828.199.67.138.20.1039113183.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net> References: <49828.199.67.138.20.1039113183.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net> Message-ID: <20021205195652.GB18272@ch208h> On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:33:03PM -0500, BZ wrote: > dtml-let section="_.string.split(_.string.lower(_.string.split(URL, > '/')[3]), '.')"> > > > > > > > > show new header > And this is the output and why it won't match which I think is > because the first one is in a list. (??!) > > ['folder_name'] = folder_name The ridiculously naive solution (since section is a one-item list) would be to use but that's a bit silly. A slight improvement would be Any better options would require more Python/DTML Zen than I have currently. But I'd think about making a Python Script called whichsection, with code something like: request = container.REQUEST url=string.lower(request.URL) section=string.split(url,'/')[3] print section return printed and then test . I probably missed a split on '.', but none of my URLs have periods in them anyway. It took me quite a while to get in the habit of replacing DTML logic with Python Scripts, but it's *lots* more readable due to the less excessive punctuation (I don't even write Python code that often, and experimented my way to the above code by reading and converting your DTML-Python). -- Mike Renfro / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research, 931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Thu Dec 5 20:17:23 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:17:23 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Comparing directories & dumb question References: <49828.199.67.138.20.1039113183.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net> Message-ID: Let's assume 'folder_name' is 'Sports'. Provided you've been careful of not using this name anywhere else in your site (that's what you usually must do when use folders as sections): I'm at Sports section I'm at any other section Ausum ----- Original Message ----- From: "BZ" To: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:33 PM Subject: [Zope] Comparing directories & dumb question > I am trying to write a snippet of code that will figure out what main > directory you are in and display a different banner based on that. Should > be simple as heck, well... it has been driving me crazy. Here is what I > have and I know I am missing one stupid line of code or something. > > dtml-let section="_.string.split(_.string.lower(_.string.split(URL, > '/')[3]), '.')"> > > > > > > > > show new header > > > > do something else > > > > > > And this is the output and why it won't match which I think is because the > first one is in a list. (??!) > > ['folder_name'] = folder_name > > Any help? > > BZ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From almotasim@noos.fr Thu Dec 5 21:02:05 2002 From: almotasim@noos.fr (Alain Motasim) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:02:05 +0100 Subject: [Zope] categories Message-ID: <3DEFBECD.10301@noos.fr> Hello, I was wondering if the concept of Category existed in Zope. In particular: is it possible to classify an object in several categories? Regards, Almo From tino@wildenhain.de Thu Dec 5 21:16:18 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:16:18 +0100 Subject: [Zope] tal define and repeat In-Reply-To: <3DEFA505.3080408@dimensional.com> References: <20021205114123.B16521@moroni.pp.asu.edu> <3DEFA505.3080408@dimensional.com> Message-ID: <12936792.1039126578@liza> Hi, --On Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 12:12 -0700 Mark Gibson wrote: > David Bear wrote: >> I have want to use something like >> >>

stuff

>> >> the listZPT is a script the returns a list of page template objects. >> >> this throws an TALES exception on repeat topic. >> >> Is it not possible to repeat over a list object in TAL? repeating over a list is what repeating means in TAL.

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You dont need the extra

around if its not for structuring the content. Regards Tino > > > You need to 'call' your script: > > i.e.:

> Why not making it more complex and wrong? ;)) From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Thu Dec 5 21:23:15 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:23:15 -0500 Subject: [Zope] categories References: <3DEFBECD.10301@noos.fr> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alain Motasim" (...) > > I was wondering if the concept of Category existed in Zope. In > particular: is it possible to classify an object in several categories? Yes you can. If you just use Zope, you can add to your object as many properties as you want, corresponding to each category you want to describe. Nonetheless it's likely you need to create your own Zope product or ZClass, so that you can assign it a dedicated user interface, and allow it to get catalogued. That's the sort of things the Content Management Framework is aimed to deal with. Inside a CMF instance, you create content and then add its metadata. One of the metadata fields is called 'Subject', and you can write out there as many names (categories) as you want. Then, the handling and finding of the objects categorized that way, is performed by the portal catalog. Ausum > Regards, > > Almo > > From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 22:05:30 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Class property in object creation form In-Reply-To: <1039105182.29246.40.camel@m22241> References: <1039105182.29246.40.camel@m22241> Message-ID: <15855.52650.491559.557091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Thierry Florac writes: > I'm currently building several Zope products working quite well but with > which I have a problem : how can I define class properties (most often > defined as lists actually) and use them in my creation forms written in > DTML. Whenever similar questions came up ;-) , I always adviced the following: declare objects you want to be exposed in the product context as additional constructors in "registerClass" (i.e. as an elements of its "constructors" argument, but not the first one as it plays a special role). I never did it myself. Thus, it may fail. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 21:36:10 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:36:10 +0100 Subject: [Zope] security and domain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15855.50890.234872.398148@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Nicolas LAURANCE writes: > I have a zope hosted behind apache and virtual monster > When i need the ip address of a visitor I use HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR Don't. Go to Look for "Patches --> VirtualHostMonster - RemoteAddr patch". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 21:39:17 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:39:17 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Changing ZClass Property Values In-Reply-To: <3DEE5F70.81CA6049@uleth.ca> References: <3DEE5F70.81CA6049@uleth.ca> Message-ID: <15855.51077.720544.366580@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Edward Pollard writes: > I've created a ZClass with some properties. Hooray for me. The properties live in a property sheet, right? Lets assume, it is called "PS" (just as an example). > How can I change these values programatically? The only example I've > ever seen of manage_changeProperties in within a method of the > propertysheet as such: > > propertysheets.myPropertySheet.manage_changeProperties(REQUEST) > > I'd like to be able in python to do something like this > > here.myObject.setProperty1(myValue) Try: here.myObject.propertysheets.PS.manage_changeProperties(prop1=val1) "PS" above is the name of your property sheet. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 21:34:03 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:34:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZClass permissions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15855.50763.473944.233266@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Patrick Stinson writes: > why is it that an anonymous user is not granted access to the ZClasses in > product management? {dumb question, I'm sure]. Did you allow it? By default, a new permission is defined that protects your ZClass. You find it in your product with a name derived from "permission" and the name of your ZClass. By default, the new permission is granted only to "Manager". You can change this in the "Security" tab of the folder or object, you want it to be changed. In the root object when you want to change it globally. ZClass permissions are highly customizable. You do this in the "Permission mapping" tab. It is not easy to understand. Read the relevant chapter in the Zope Book carefully. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 21:16:39 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:16:39 +0100 Subject: [Zope] context in a Product's python code (not Python Script) In-Reply-To: <20021205043448.GA3068@happyhappy.dyndns.org> References: <1038593340.3de7ad3c71cf2@redemption.trnty.edu> <20021205043448.GA3068@happyhappy.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <15855.49719.504309.503012@gargle.gargle.HOWL> John Hohm writes: > .... > You seem to be saying that luck is required for a method to get proper > acquisition information. That depends on what you mean with "proper". Apparently, the acquisition information passed into a method is proper for most applications (as there are very few complaints). When I worked on my "References" product I tried to pass full acquisition context into a method. This resulted in a very expensive lookup process. However, it well possible (even probable) that this was caused by an error in my implementation. I now emulate the context passing of "Acquisition". > How can this be? Aren't methods acquired all over > the place? Apparently, they usually do not need complete acquisition context when they are acquired. > What alternatives to methods exist for defining objects that can > be acquired? You use an object (more precisely "ExtensionClass" instance), acquire it (it gets full acquisition context) and call its methods (the self passed in has then full acquisition context). Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 22:00:45 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:00:45 +0100 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <15855.52365.149842.658440@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Skip Montanaro writes: > I think I may have encountered this problem before and asked about it. If > so, any solutions offered at that time escape me now. The mailing lists are archived and searchable via Google ;-) This means, when you miss something, you can easily find it again... > I have this ZSQL > method (get_workorder): > > id > worker_id > end_date > select * from work_order > > > > > > I answered previously: When you use "sqltest" with "optional", you should not use "type=string" but "type=nb" (non blank). "optional" is implemented as: convert the value to the required type; if that fails, omit the "sqltest". There is no problem to convert a value to a string. Converting to "nb" will fail, when the value is the empty string. > .... > In a Python script I want to call it like so: > > workorders = context.sql.get_workorder(worker_id=worker_id, > end_date='2003-04-23') > > that is, omit the presumably optional id parameter. I had answered this question as well: Apparently, ZSQL methods acquire explicitely named parameters. "id" is easy to acquire (because it is almost obiquitous), but the problem is general. I consider this a bug. You may want to file a bug report to . > However, when the > Python script is run, the ZSQL method complains "Invalid integer value for > id". Strange, this should not happen with my understanding of "optional". I checked the implementation (Shared/DC/ZRDB/sqltest.py) and found out that "optional" works as follows: * when the requested value does not exist, "sqltest" returns '' * when the value is false *and* it is a string, "sqltest" returns '' * otherwise, "optional" is not effective. Needless to say: I think, this is broken. As a work around: pass "id=''" in your "get_workorder" method. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Thu Dec 5 22:10:03 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:10:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] confused about optional args to ZSQL methods In-Reply-To: <15855.32582.74306.31331@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15854.57297.126116.463326@montanaro.dyndns.org> <7287882752.20021205161616@publisher.de> <15855.32582.74306.31331@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <15855.52923.448097.188923@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Skip Montanaro writes: > > Ulrich> "id" is obviously a very bad name for a user variable in > Ulrich> Zope. > > Obvious to who? "id" is a lovely parameter name in Python as long as you're > aware you're hiding the rarely used id() builtin. The Zope community seems > to be filled with lore that isn't codified anywhere or at best is written > down in a sea of howto documents. In this case, it is a bug: Z SQL methods are ready to acquire explicitly named arguments. This should not be the case. Without this bug, nothing would deprecated "id" as parameter. With it, you must pass all parameters that might be acquired. And (as others pointed out) "id" is very easily acquired... Dieter From darius@obsidian.com.au Fri Dec 6 00:49:22 2002 From: darius@obsidian.com.au (KevinL) Date: 06 Dec 2002 11:49:22 +1100 Subject: [Zope] security and domain In-Reply-To: <15855.50890.234872.398148@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <15855.50890.234872.398148@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <1039135763.12192.366.camel@ufo> Is there any chance this will make it into core zope VHM/SiteAccess? It's insanely useful, and doesn't appear to break anything... KJL On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 08:36, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Nicolas LAURANCE writes: > > I have a zope hosted behind apache and virtual monster > > When i need the ip address of a visitor I use HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR > Don't. > > Go to > > > > Look for "Patches --> VirtualHostMonster - RemoteAddr patch". > > > Dieter From chrism@zope.com Fri Dec 6 04:20:31 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 05 Dec 2002 23:20:31 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope Book call for assistance Message-ID: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> Hi, Time has rolled around for me to ask for assistance with editing the most recent edition of the Zope Book. A "2.6 edition" of the Zope Book exists at http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/index_html. It has many new chapters and a most existing chapters have been rewritten and extended. But it's not finished and I'd really like this Zope Book edition to be the "current" edition by the time Zope 2.6.1 comes out. If anyone has the time and inclination to edit and extend one of the following chapters of the 2.6 edition Zope Book, you will be rewarded with a glowing mention in the Preface of the book. If you professionally edit two chapters, you'll be considered a coauthor and your name will go on the header. That'd be nice on a resume, I'd imagine. Maintaining Zope: Extending Zope (ZClasses): < http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/CustomZopeObjects.stx > Relational Database Connectivity: < http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/RelationalDatabases.stx > Users and Security: < http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/Security.stx > Advanced DTML: < http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvDTML.stx > Searching and Categorizing Content (ZCatalog): < http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/SearchingZCatalog.stx > Advanced Zope Scripting: < http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ScriptingZope.stx > "Editing and extending" these chapters means: - Downloading the source version of the chapter via the "STX source" link at the top of the page. - Addressing all the comments in the section (by deleting the extraneous ones and answering via narrative in the document the meaningful ones). - Extending the chapter based on your own personal experience. - Optionally re-screenshotting and renumbering the figures based on the format of the already re-screenshotted Basic Objects chapter (I can do this as well if you can't, as long as I know what needs to be done). - Sending the edited source back to me for inclusion into the Book. Thanks much! - C From gagenellina@softlab.com.ar Fri Dec 6 07:07:14 2002 From: gagenellina@softlab.com.ar (Gabriel Genellina) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:07:14 -0300 Subject: [Zope] Detect ZOPE version inside a product Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> Hi How could I detect the running Zope version inside a product? I need to do that at the module level, in the initialization stage. Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL From tino@wildenhain.de Fri Dec 6 09:05:12 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:05:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Detect ZOPE version inside a product In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> Message-ID: <2126607.1039169112@liza> Hi Gabriel, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 04:07 -0300 Gabriel Genellina wrote: > Hi > > How could I detect the running Zope version inside a product? > I need to do that at the module level, in the initialization stage. I'm not sure if its wise to make decicions based on version numbers. You cant know if the user of your product has a highly patched version of zope which whould in fact allow her to run your product. I'd suggest to check for existence of methods and objects and wether they work as expected which are essential for your product. Provide the user with appropriate error messages if not. Regards Tino From josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch Fri Dec 6 09:02:48 2002 From: josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch (Josef Meile) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 10:02:48 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Detect ZOPE version inside a product Message-ID: <3DF067B8.7000305@imes.mavt.ethz.ch> Hi, > How could I detect the running Zope version inside a product? There is a varible in the REQUEST object: SERVER_SOFTWARE. In my case it is: "Zope/(Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.3, linux2) ZServer/1.1b1" You have to do some strings operations in order to get it. Regards, Josef. From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com Fri Dec 6 09:17:36 2002 From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:17:36 +0000 Subject: [Zope] security and domain In-Reply-To: <1039135763.12192.366.camel@ufo> References: <15855.50890.234872.398148@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1039135763.12192.366.camel@ufo> Message-ID: <200212060917.36889.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> On Friday 06 December 2002 12:49 am, KevinL wrote: > Is there any chance this will make it into core zope VHM/SiteAccess? > It's insanely useful, and doesn't appear to break anything... A different change is proposed for 2.7.=20 http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/RemoteAddrAndAccelerators From matthew@exhibit.com.au Fri Dec 6 09:32:06 2002 From: matthew@exhibit.com.au (Matthew) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:32:06 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Newbie Qu: user login in private folders Message-ID: <3DF06E96.40901@exhibit.com.au> Hi all, Having a really hard time here. I'm trying to create separate folders for each of my clients, and I don't want anyone else but them to access anything in the folder. I've read many ways of settings the permissions to make the folder private, and I think I have the hang of that. The problem: I create a user in their private folder, but they can't log in. The only allowable log-ins seem to come from the top CMF folder. I even tried creating a test without any restrictions just to log in- but still only users from the top CMF folder can log in. Can someone please let me know what I'm doing wrong, or point me in the right direction. I know everyones busy, but I really can't figure out what's happening. Many thanks. Matthew. From amit@zopeindia.com Fri Dec 6 09:58:27 2002 From: amit@zopeindia.com (Amit Khan) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:28:27 +0530 Subject: [Zope] ZODB Conflict error Message-ID: <01bb01c29d0e$0a258810$1b00a8c0@ontrackindia.com> Hi, I am trying to develop a File system based product and facing a pecuiliar problem as follows : "zope reporting frequent warning - 2002-12-06T08:13:33 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /MYPRODUCT (1 conflicts since startup at 2002-12-06T07:39:45) 2002-12-06T09:13:33 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /MYPRODUCT (2 conflicts since startup at 2002-12-06T09:39:45) Could not trace the problem ? Do anybody have idea about how to debug ZODB conflict error? Warm Regards, Amit Khan Mobile - 91-33-9830105090 From tino@wildenhain.de Fri Dec 6 10:54:32 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:54:32 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> Message-ID: <8686420.1039175672@liza> Hi, --On Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2002 23:20 -0500 Chris McDonough wrote: ... > > Advanced DTML: > < > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvDTML.stx >> erm... would "advanced DTML" not be the short sentence: "avoid DTML where you can"? ;) Btw. did you think of putting the whole DTML stuff at the end for reference only to help migrating old products and turn the whole thing a bit around so beginners get a clear path of Zope development? I found it a bit confusing when I edited the german translation of the 2.3 book a year ago. Regards Tino From f.melssen@nsm.kun.nl Fri Dec 6 11:00:03 2002 From: f.melssen@nsm.kun.nl (Fred Melssen) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:00:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] attributeerror domains when editing a user Message-ID: <3DF08333.EC209B00@nsm.kun.nl> I can add and remove users in [acl_users]. But it is not possible to edit a user. I get the error message [error type: AttributeError, error value: domains] below. It does not make any difference if I fill in a domain or not. I am *very* happy if someone can help me. Thanks, Fred Melssen ---------------------- Versions: Zope Version (Zope 2.5.0 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.2, linux2) Python Version 2.1.2 (#1, Jan 25 2002, 13:17:56) [GCC 2.7.2.3] System Platform linux2 ---------------------- Traceback (innermost last): File /zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module File /zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in publish File /zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 158, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: acl_users) File /zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 98, in publish File /zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88, in mapply (Object: manage_users) File /zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 39, in call_object (Object: manage_users) File /zope/lib/python/AccessControl/User.py, line 923, in manage_users (Object: acl_users) File /zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 252, in __call__ (Object: _editUser) File /zope/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: _editUser) File /zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 172, in _exec (Object: _editUser) File /zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 159, in eval (Object: user.domains) (Info: user) File , line 0, in ? AttributeError: (see above) ---------------------- From thierry.florac@onf.fr Fri Dec 6 11:03:16 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 06 Dec 2002 12:03:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Class property in object creation form In-Reply-To: <15855.52650.491559.557091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <1039105182.29246.40.camel@m22241> <15855.52650.491559.557091@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <1039172597.8532.1.camel@m22241> On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 23:05, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Thierry Florac writes: > > I'm currently building several Zope products working quite well but with > > which I have a problem : how can I define class properties (most often > > defined as lists actually) and use them in my creation forms written in > > DTML. > Whenever similar questions came up ;-) , I always adviced the following: > > declare objects you want to be exposed in the product context > as additional constructors in "registerClass" (i.e. as > an elements of its "constructors" argument, but not the first > one as it plays a special role). > > I never did it myself. Thus, it may fail. No, no, it works very well !! That was the good solution... Many thanks, Thierry From johan.lubcke@appload.net Fri Dec 6 11:08:16 2002 From: johan.lubcke@appload.net (Johan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=FCbcke?=) Date: 06 Dec 2002 12:08:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope-2.6.0-solaris dumps core Message-ID: <1039172895.6245.39.camel@johan.office.appload.net> --=-fJffherkLxxseoCaFLrw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I have a few helper scripts to do some ZODB modifications from the outside, using "import Zope; a=3DZope.app()" but after upgrading to 2.6.0 they stopped working. I can reproduce the core dump with: --- 8< --- 8< --- bash-2.03# /usr/local/bin/tar xfz ~peter/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc.tgz bash-2.03# cd Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/ bash-2.03# ./install ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Compiling python modules ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- creating default inituser file Note: The initial user name and password are 'admin' and 'Te7iq1Ud'. You can change the name and password through the web interface or using the 'zpasswd.py' script. chmod 0600 /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/inituser chmod 0711 /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/var ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- setting dir permissions ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- creating default database chmod 0600 /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/var/Data.fs ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Writing the pcgi resource file (ie cgi script), /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/Zope.cgi chmod 0755 /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/Zope.cgi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Creating start script, start chmod 0711 /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/start ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Creating stop script, stop chmod 0711 /tmp/junk/Zope-2.6.0-solaris-2.8-sparc/stop ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Done! bash-2.03# export PYTHONPATH=3Dlib/python bash-2.03# bin/python -i -c "import Zope" >>> a=3DZope.app() >>> ^D bash-2.03# bin/python -i -c "import Zope; a=3DZope.app()" ZODB/cPickleCache.c:445: failed assertion `key !=3D Py_None' Abort (core dumped) bash-2.03# --- 8< --- 8< --- The confusing part is that it works if I do it manualy from the python prompt, but fail to execute if I do it in a script... Any clues for a workaround? / Johan --=20 Johan L=FCbcke Appload Nordic AB --=-fJffherkLxxseoCaFLrw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA98IUf9BeRmxxhT98RAnAoAJ95aJJCHq3GRbAAUy7iihwiMIz6nQCfcTI7 lWpj54Xtwb1NEIPLeAn8A/I= =VhdT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-fJffherkLxxseoCaFLrw-- From tillea@rki.de Fri Dec 6 11:43:59 2002 From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:43:59 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> Message-ID: On 5 Dec 2002, Chris McDonough wrote: > Time has rolled around for me to ask for assistance with editing the > most recent edition of the Zope Book. A "2.6 edition" of the Zope Book > exists at > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/index_html. > It has many new chapters and a most existing chapters have been > rewritten and extended. But it's not finished and I'd really like this > Zope Book edition to be the "current" edition by the time Zope 2.6.1 > comes out. > > > ... > > - Downloading the source version of the chapter via the "STX > source" link at the top of the page. Alternatively you might use the get_zope-book Script which I made available some minutes ago at http://people.debian.org/~tille/packages/zope-book/ besides some Debian packages of the current version of the Zope Book. Thanks for all the authors to the fine work. I know that the Debian community is waiting for you new official release. By the way: I used the StructuredText/* stuff from the old CVS zope-book version. This uses old regsub stuff. I would like to ask whether there is some more recent stuff to convert structured text into HTML or other formats. Kind regards Andreas. From all@123piano.com Fri Dec 6 12:23:29 2002 From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:23:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZopeTop, xul, etc. Message-ID: <3DF096C1.7070809@123piano.com> Hi, It seems there is currently work done on the future UI for zope3. I have some questions / comments on this (I hope it's the right list...) - Isn't it strange to use html to create a modular user interface? As I see it, html is not an UI definition language. - is there currently active projects to build a fat client interface for zope using xul or other technology? If html is not the right tool for the job, and if xul is really as good as it seems : - zope should use an intermediate layer between the core logic / datastructures and the UI. This layer could be something like xul - xul is xml, and as such could be "converted" to xhtml. The conversion would reduce a lot the usability (you cannot do everything xul does with html), but at least there would be a single source of UI definition and multiple implementations (simple html, "flashy" dhtml, pure mozilla xul, etc...). - xul can be used directely in mozilla, providing a very powerfull client-side interface. I think it can be seen as a rapid interface developement tool. In short, zope core -> "html ui" is not too good zope core -> "something" -> html would be more modular. the "something" could be xul... or wathever, the point is "there must be something" :) What do you think? Philippe Jadin ps : is it possible to contact the people currently working at the infrae sprint (irc?)? From christof.robert@wanadoo.fr Fri Dec 6 12:44:08 2002 From: christof.robert@wanadoo.fr (robert christophe) Date: 06 Dec 2002 13:44:08 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZopeTop, xul, etc. In-Reply-To: <3DF096C1.7070809@123piano.com> References: <3DF096C1.7070809@123piano.com> Message-ID: <1039178649.2915.1.camel@station> Le ven 06/12/2002 =E0 13:23, Philippe Jadin a =E9crit : > Hi, >=20 there is also UIML=20 http://www.uiml.org/index.php link in french=20 http://aristote1.aristote.asso.fr/Presentations/UIML/ > It seems there is currently work done on the future UI for zope3. I have=20 > some questions / comments on this (I hope it's the right list...) >=20 > - Isn't it strange to use html to create a modular user interface? As I=20 > see it, html is not an UI definition language. >=20 > - is there currently active projects to build a fat client interface for=20 > zope using xul or other technology? >=20 >=20 >=20 > If html is not the right tool for the job, and if xul is really as good=20 > as it seems : >=20 > - zope should use an intermediate layer between the core logic /=20 > datastructures and the UI. This layer could be something like xul >=20 > - xul is xml, and as such could be "converted" to xhtml. The conversion=20 > would reduce a lot the usability (you cannot do everything xul does with=20 > html), but at least there would be a single source of UI definition and=20 > multiple implementations (simple html, "flashy" dhtml, pure mozilla xul,=20 > etc...). >=20 > - xul can be used directely in mozilla, providing a very powerfull=20 > client-side interface. I think it can be seen as a rapid interface=20 > developement tool. >=20 > In short, >=20 > zope core -> "html ui" is not too good > zope core -> "something" -> html would be more modular. >=20 > the "something" could be xul... or wathever, the point is "there must be=20 > something" :) >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > Philippe Jadin >=20 >=20 >=20 > ps : is it possible to contact the people currently working at the=20 > infrae sprint (irc?)? >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists -=20 > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From Lars.Heber@t-systems.com Fri Dec 6 13:04:04 2002 From: Lars.Heber@t-systems.com (Lars Heber) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Bug or Feature (dtml-in)? Message-ID: <3DF0A044.22663B58@t-systems.com> Hello list, I just found s. th. really strange with the following code::

Worked fine, except that if one wasn't authorized to access a folder, the property sequence-start was always set - resulting in repeated

> It seems there is currently work done on the future UI for zope3. I have > some questions / comments on this (I hope it's the right list...) zope3-dev@zope.org is the list to discuss this. Check out http://lists.zope.org for a complete list of Zope mail lists. A From alec.munro@eoascientific.com Fri Dec 6 13:26:42 2002 From: alec.munro@eoascientific.com (Alec Munro) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Zope] POSting from a python script. Message-ID: <3DF0A592.6020307@eoascientific.com> Hi all, Is it possible to post data to a site from a python script? Basically I want have the user fill out a form, have that form's action be a python script, and then have the python script submit a post request to another site, and then return a page on my site to the user. I'm sure if this can be done it's fairly trivial, but I cannot think of how to do it. Also, I want to be able to recieve the response to the posted data. Thanks, Alec Munro From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Fri Dec 6 14:19:21 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:19:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] POSting from a python script. References: <3DF0A592.6020307@eoascientific.com> Message-ID: http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai/KebasData Ausum ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alec Munro" To: "zope" Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: [Zope] POSting from a python script. > Hi all, > Is it possible to post data to a site from a python script? Basically I > want have the user fill out a form, have that form's action be a python > script, and then have the python script submit a post request to another > site, and then return a page on my site to the user. I'm sure if this > can be done it's fairly trivial, but I cannot think of how to do it. > Also, I want to be able to recieve the response to the posted data. > > Thanks, > > Alec Munro > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From casey@zope.com Fri Dec 6 14:20:58 2002 From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:20:58 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ObjectManager API and Zope3 In-Reply-To: <20021204213245.GH735@thomas-guettler.de> References: <20021204213245.GH735@thomas-guettler.de> Message-ID: <200212060920.58286.casey@zope.com> On Wednesday 04 December 2002 04:32 pm, Thomas Guettler wrote: > Hi! >=20 > Does someone know why ObjectManager has its own "API"? I think it > would be better if the API would be like python's dictionary: >=20 > has_key, values, items ... >=20 > Somehow I don't like objectValues, objectItems ... >=20 > Will this be changed for Zope3? >=20 Yes, In Zope3 folders are little more than glorified dictionaries.=20 ObjectManagers are way too big for their britches in Zope 2 (API speaking= )... -Casey From romon@math.univ-mlv.fr Fri Dec 6 14:47:34 2002 From: romon@math.univ-mlv.fr (Pascal Romon) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:47:34 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Help : changeOwnership Message-ID: Could someone help me understanding how to change ownership of an object ? I've looked through the lists and docs to no avail :-( [ Let me point out that I am a newbie ... ] Problem (obvious) : objects created by manager are owned by manager. I want to relinquish ownership to a given user. Solutions (not working) : I seen some scripts using changeOwnership BUT 1) some scripts use a __of__ method that my Zope does not accept (eg a cool chown script http://www.zope.org/Members/vernier/Debian/CMF_Creator ) 2) others are accepted by Zope, like -- stupid -- changeOwnership(username) but upon execution of /.../object/chown?username=blahblah I get after typing in the identity & password "You are not authorized to access this resource. Username and password are not correct. " (either as manager or as the user involved). What's going on ? Thanks Pascal From chrism@zope.com Fri Dec 6 14:50:59 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 06 Dec 2002 09:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <8686420.1039175672@liza> References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> Message-ID: <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> > erm... would "advanced DTML" not be the short sentence: > "avoid DTML where you can"? ;) That'd be ok, except that DTML can of course do things that ZPT can't, yada yada yada. > Btw. did you think of putting the whole DTML stuff at the end for > reference only to help migrating old products and turn the > whole thing a bit around so beginners get a clear path of > Zope development? I found it a bit confusing when I edited > the german translation of the 2.3 book a year ago. That's probably a good idea. But I think the rewritten chapters explain when to use ZPT and when to use DTML. And DTML still needs to be given some attention for the reason I say above... - C From chrism@zope.com Fri Dec 6 14:52:16 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 06 Dec 2002 09:52:16 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039186337.1447.10.camel@james> > Alternatively you might use the > get_zope-book > Script which I made available some minutes ago at Nice! Sorry for not making this easier... From marcus.schopen@Uni-Bielefeld.DE Fri Dec 6 15:15:31 2002 From: marcus.schopen@Uni-Bielefeld.DE (Marcus Schopen) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:15:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] Python video/movie Message-ID: <1039187731.3df0bf1365e5a@www1.jura.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Hi, does anyone know where to find this funny python video/movie("I love python" or something like this). Thanks Marcus -- | Marcus Schopen (0> http://www.dzug.org | | P.O. Box 10 25 25 //\ http://www.zope.org | | D-33525 Bielefeld V_/_ http://www.python.org | | *** Live as variously as possible *** | From robichon@esrf.fr Fri Dec 6 15:25:27 2002 From: robichon@esrf.fr (Marie Robichon) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:25:27 +0100 Subject: [Zope] local roles Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.1.20021206161919.0259e900@mailserv.esrf.fr> Hi, I have a user with a local role of Job Manager. How do I test for this local role ? .... does not work The following just gives me 'Authenticated' as her role, since no actual role is defined at root level for her. TIA Marie Robichon Web Task Force European Synchrotron Radiation Facility BP 220 38043 Grenoble Cedex France Tel: (33) 04 76 88 21 86 Fax: (33) 04 76 88 24 27 From Lars.Heber@t-systems.com Fri Dec 6 17:07:35 2002 From: Lars.Heber@t-systems.com (Lars Heber) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:07:35 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Bug or Feature (dtml-in)? Message-ID: <3DF0D957.E247F87C@t-systems.com> Ok, now I've got it. It was because not every folder had the property "index", which I used for sorting in the "in"-tag. Repaired that, now it works. Anyway, this behaviour is confusing and in my mind buggy... Should this become an issue for the collector? -- Lars Heber T-Systems GEI GmbH Hausanschrift: Clausstrasse 3, 09126 Chemnitz Postanschrift: Clausstrasse 3, 09126 Chemnitz Telefon : (+49 371) 5359-271 Fax : (+49 371) 5359-133 E-Mail : Lars.Heber@t-systems.com Internet: http://www.t-systems.de From simon@joyful.com Fri Dec 6 17:22:08 2002 From: simon@joyful.com (Simon Michael) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:22:08 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Detect ZOPE version inside a product In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> (Gabriel Genellina's message of "Fri, 06 Dec 2002 04:07:14 -0300") References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> Message-ID: <87smxboyf3.fsf@joyful.com> Tino may be right, but I do this:: try: v = open(os.path.join(SOFTWARE_HOME,'version.txt')).read() m = re.match(r'(?i)zope\s*([0-9]+)\.([0-9]+)\.([0-9]+)',v) ZOPEVERSION = (int(m.group(1)),int(m.group(2)),int(m.group(3))) except: # if we can't read version.txt, assume we're dealing with a # highly advanced specimen.. (cvs) ZOPEVERSION = (9,9,9) From ajole-1@gci.net Fri Dec 6 05:50:28 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:50:28 -0000 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritance Message-ID: why is it that this doesn't set the inherited site_url property in the newly created instance of PK_MusicTrack? request = context.REQUEST instance = container.PK_MusicTrack.createInObjectManager(request['id'], request) request.set('site_url', instance.absolute_url()) instance.propertysheets.common.manage_editProperties(request) I realize that if PK_MusicTrack inherits site_url, it won't be in propertysheets.common, but HOW do you set it then? From andy@agmweb.ca Fri Dec 6 17:58:55 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:58:55 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Detect ZOPE version inside a product References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> <87smxboyf3.fsf@joyful.com> Message-ID: <001801c29d51$24eba510$0201a8c0@main> Tino is right, you have a mis-match between the ZODB objects and the file system. The version information of the Product from the file system can be found through Zope: ## Script (Python) "version" ##parameters=productName p = getattr(context.Control_Panel.Products, productName, None) if p: return p.version return "No product of that name found" -- Andy McKay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Michael" To: Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: [Zope] Re: Detect ZOPE version inside a product > Tino may be right, but I do this:: > > try: > v = open(os.path.join(SOFTWARE_HOME,'version.txt')).read() > m = re.match(r'(?i)zope\s*([0-9]+)\.([0-9]+)\.([0-9]+)',v) > ZOPEVERSION = (int(m.group(1)),int(m.group(2)),int(m.group(3))) > except: > # if we can't read version.txt, assume we're dealing with a > # highly advanced specimen.. (cvs) > ZOPEVERSION = (9,9,9) > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From andy@agmweb.ca Fri Dec 6 18:00:35 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:00:35 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Detect ZOPE version inside a product Message-ID: <002801c29d51$605aa420$0201a8c0@main> Oops you wanted the Zope version: ## Script (Python) "version" return context.Control_Panel.version_txt() -- Andy McKay From pollej@uleth.ca Fri Dec 6 18:54:20 2002 From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 11:54:20 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Accessing Content of a Page Template In Python Message-ID: <3DF0F25C.790AFC6E@uleth.ca> Straight out: is it possible? If I have a text file in a directory, I can get the content from it from simply eg theContent = context.myFile How can I get the content out of a Page Template object? A related problem I have is that I can call my script from the context of a file object, but not a Page Template. eg. myFile/myScript This allows me to access the file as 'context'. Now, I want this script to work on Files and Page Templates, but when I try to access myPageTemplate/myScript, it simply displays the rendered template. Is there any way to do something like this? Thanks, Ed From mlewis@exasource.com Fri Dec 6 20:58:02 2002 From: mlewis@exasource.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:58:02 -0700 Subject: [Zope] SSLAbsoluteURL / CMF question Message-ID: <200212062101.gB6L1J4Q024568@dick.jymis.com> A friend of mine has Zope2.5.1 with CMF running on Debian 3.0r0, Kernel 2.2.19, Apache 1.3.26-1.1, Apache-SSL 1.3.26.1+1.48-, and Python 2.1.3-4. He installed the SSLAbsoluteURL product in /path/to/zope/lib/python/Products. Re-started Zope and nothing. The product does not appear in /Control_Panel/Products. Has anyone else had this problem? Also, I saw a post on Google that indicated a possible bug when using the product with CMF, but no follow-up thread. Michael From pollej@uleth.ca Fri Dec 6 21:14:29 2002 From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Deletion of ZClass Object Does not Remove it from Catalog Message-ID: <3DF11335.40098910@uleth.ca> I've got my bastardised ZClass based of Page Tempate, I've made it Catalog aware. Creating the item puts it in the ZCatalog. Fantastic. With the help of this list I've constructed the appropriate forms so that editing the properties is reflected in the Catalog. Brilliant. Deleting items does not delete them from the catalog. Damn. Well, while 2 for 3 is good, I need to conquor this last little problem. I've seen discussed the issue when using a Python Product, and while in the future I'm going to endeavour to use Python Products, I'd like to fix the ZClass product I've created. Could this relate to not using the default catalog? ('Catalog') I had to change the constructor when I moved to a different Z Catalog, is there something I have to change in the destructor? (Which, really, I don't see anywhere. Do I have to create one? What on earth would it look like?) Thanks in advance, Ed From gagenellina@softlab.com.ar Fri Dec 6 21:17:45 2002 From: gagenellina@softlab.com.ar (Gabriel Genellina) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:17:45 -0300 Subject: [Zope] Detect ZOPE version inside a product In-Reply-To: <2126607.1039169112@liza> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206174043.02bacec0@192.168.0.115> At 10:05 6/12/2002 +0100, you wrote: >>How could I detect the running Zope version inside a product? >>I need to do that at the module level, in the initialization stage. > >I'm not sure if its wise to make decicions based on version numbers. >You cant know if the user of your product has a highly patched >version of zope which whould in fact allow her to run your >product. > >I'd suggest to check for existence of methods and objects >and wether they work as expected which are essential for >your product. Provide the user with appropriate error >messages if not. Since version 2.6 Zope changes its working directory to /var, earlier versions didn't, and I had to know that path. As you noted, relying in the version information is not very safe. I'm using now sys.modules['__builtin__'].CLIENT_HOME, that's fine, I presume. Gabriel Genellina Softlab SRL From luca@wetron.es Fri Dec 6 23:00:42 2002 From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:00:42 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Help : changeOwnership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF12C1A.5050604@wetron.es> Pascal Romon wrote: > 2) others are accepted by Zope, like -- stupid -- > changeOwnership(username) > but upon execution of /.../object/chown?username=blahblah > I get after typing in the identity & password > "You are not authorized to access this resource. > Username and password are not correct. " > (either as manager or as the user involved). I may be wrong, but what I do is assign a local role of 'Owner' for username (in fact for what I do I don't even need to change ownership) e.g.: ## beware this deletes all existing local roles object.manage_delLocalRoles([ user for user,roles in object.get_local_roles() ]) object.manage_setLocalRoles(username, ['Owner']) -- Luca Olivetti From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Fri Dec 6 22:22:59 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:22:59 -0500 Subject: [Zope] local roles In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20021206161919.0259e900@mailserv.esrf.fr> Message-ID: Try: Kevin -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Marie Robichon Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 10:25 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] local roles Hi, I have a user with a local role of Job Manager. How do I test for this local role ? .... does not work The following just gives me 'Authenticated' as her role, since no actual role is defined at root level for her. TIA Marie Robichon Web Task Force European Synchrotron Radiation Facility BP 220 38043 Grenoble Cedex France Tel: (33) 04 76 88 21 86 Fax: (33) 04 76 88 24 27 _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Fri Dec 6 22:11:59 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:11:59 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Large File Support Message-ID: I am running Zope 2.6 on RedHat Linux version 7.2, kernel version 2.4.7-10 and, in case it matters, glibc-2.2.4-13. According to the documents that I have been reading online, the binary distribution of Zope 2.6 should have large file support built in and should work on my current configuration. However, I am unable to open a 2GB+ Data.fs file either with Zope or by typing in "open('Data.fs')" from the python interpreter (using /zope/bin/python). I routinely get a "file too large" error. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? Thanks, Kevin From list@zettai.net Fri Dec 6 23:38:58 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Large File Support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: are you sure you're using the python that comes with Zope? You might be getting this error because you're using the Python that comes with RedHat. this might be useful: http://zope.org/Members/beacon/install_instructions <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: "Kevin Carlson" > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:11:59 -0500 > To: > Subject: [Zope] Large File Support > > I am running Zope 2.6 on RedHat Linux version 7.2, kernel version 2.4.7-10 > and, in case it matters, glibc-2.2.4-13. According to the documents that I > have been reading online, the binary distribution of Zope 2.6 should have > large file support built in and should work on my current configuration. > > However, I am unable to open a 2GB+ Data.fs file either with Zope or by > typing in "open('Data.fs')" from the python interpreter (using > /zope/bin/python). I routinely get a "file too large" error. > > Does anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 6 22:48:14 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:48:14 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Detect ZOPE version inside a product In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021206040710.021bc6b0@192.168.0.115> Message-ID: <15857.10542.389961.470589@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Gabriel Genellina writes: > How could I detect the running Zope version inside a product? > I need to do that at the module level, in the initialization stage. See, whether you find something appropriate in "App/version_txt.py". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 6 22:50:12 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:50:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZODB Conflict error In-Reply-To: <01bb01c29d0e$0a258810$1b00a8c0@ontrackindia.com> References: <01bb01c29d0e$0a258810$1b00a8c0@ontrackindia.com> Message-ID: <15857.10660.192638.191724@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Amit Khan writes: > I am trying to develop a File system based product and facing a pecuiliar > problem as follows : > "zope reporting frequent warning - > 2002-12-06T08:13:33 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /MYPRODUCT (1 conflicts > since startup at 2002-12-06T07:39:45) > > 2002-12-06T09:13:33 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /MYPRODUCT (2 conflicts > since startup at 2002-12-06T09:39:45) > > Could not trace the problem ? Do anybody have idea about how to debug ZODB > conflict error? Please search the mailing list archive (e.g. via Google) for "confict error". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 6 22:58:16 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:58:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] attributeerror domains when editing a user In-Reply-To: <3DF08333.EC209B00@nsm.kun.nl> References: <3DF08333.EC209B00@nsm.kun.nl> Message-ID: <15857.11144.776363.392927@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Fred Melssen writes: > I can add and remove users in [acl_users]. But it is not possible to > edit a user. I get the error message [error type: AttributeError, error > value: domains] below. It does not make any difference if I fill in a > domain or not. I am *very* happy if someone can help me. > .... > (Object: _editUser) > File /zope/lib/python/App/special_dtml.py, line 172, in _exec > (Object: _editUser) > File /zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 159, in eval > (Object: user.domains) > (Info: user) > File , line 0, in ? > AttributeError: (see above) It looks as if the "user" object magically looses its "domains" attribute. I see no reason why this can happen. Maybe, you upgrade to Zope 2.5.1 (recommended anyway). I use it and I could not reproduce your problem. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 6 23:14:58 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:14:58 +0100 Subject: [Zope] local roles In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20021206161919.0259e900@mailserv.esrf.fr> References: <5.0.2.1.1.20021206161919.0259e900@mailserv.esrf.fr> Message-ID: <15857.12146.977656.512898@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Marie Robichon writes: > I have a user with a local role of Job Manager. How do I test for this > local role ? > > .... > does not work > > The following just gives me 'Authenticated' as her role, since no actual > role is defined at root level for her. > > Local roles require a context with respect to which they are local. You use "user.getRolesInContext(context)". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 6 23:13:15 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 00:13:15 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Help : changeOwnership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15857.12043.364515.120258@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Pascal Romon writes: > Could someone help me understanding how to change ownership of an > object ? > I've looked through the lists and docs to no avail :-( > [ Let me point out that I am a newbie ... ] > > Problem (obvious) : objects created by manager are owned by manager. > I want to relinquish ownership to a given user. > > Solutions (not working) : I seen some scripts using changeOwnership BUT > 1) some scripts use a __of__ method that my Zope does not accept > (eg a cool chown script > http://www.zope.org/Members/vernier/Debian/CMF_Creator ) > 2) others are accepted by Zope, like -- stupid -- > changeOwnership(username) > but upon execution of /.../object/chown?username=blahblah > I get after typing in the identity & password > "You are not authorized to access this resource. > Username and password are not correct. " > (either as manager or as the user involved). > > What's going on ? Ownership has two facets in Zope: * the "Owner" local role It controls the special permissions granted to the objects "owners" (their can be more than one). You use "AccessControl.Role.RoleManager.manage_setLocalRoles" * the ownership, describing the user that created the object This is a Trojan horse protection. It is relevant only for executable objects. The effective roles when executing the object is the intersection between the current users roles and the roles of the object's owner (as given by the "ownership"). Thus, a low priviledged user cannot create a Trojan horse object that when executed by a high priviledged user does things the low priviledged user could not. You change ownership with "AccessControl.Owned.Owned.changeOwnership". Its argument is a user object, not a username. Dieter From tino@wildenhain.de Sat Dec 7 00:13:11 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 01:13:11 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> Message-ID: <6974649.1039223591@liza> Hi Chris, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 09:50 -0500 Chris McDonough wrote: >> erm... would "advanced DTML" not be the short sentence: >> "avoid DTML where you can"? ;) > > That'd be ok, except that DTML can of course do things that ZPT can't, > yada yada yada. These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML nor in ZPT :-) I'd start the lessons with ZPT to only show static content and may be macros. Then the logical order would be introduction to python scripts without HTML output - only show how they are used to calculate and output simple values, lists, dictionaries and so on. Next chapter should show how one uses the scripts with ZPT to provide output into HTML. Then the usual things like Catalog, ZSQL, important API parts, etc. Don't you think this would be clearer for the beginner? Regards Tino > >> Btw. did you think of putting the whole DTML stuff at the end for >> reference only to help migrating old products and turn the >> whole thing a bit around so beginners get a clear path of >> Zope development? I found it a bit confusing when I edited >> the german translation of the 2.3 book a year ago. > > That's probably a good idea. But I think the rewritten chapters explain > when to use ZPT and when to use DTML. And DTML still needs to be given > some attention for the reason I say above... > > - C > > From list_subscriber@neurobs.com Sat Dec 7 01:18:46 2002 From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 17:18:46 -0800 Subject: [Zope] class variable persistence question Message-ID: <3DF14C76.4010901@neurobs.com> Hi, I am writing a custom user folder. In the product I have a config.py file that has a number of parameters defined that are used all over the place by other classes. These parameters specify some global variables, that I would like to set when a new instance of the product is created. If these parameters are preset then there is no problem at all, but that makes my product a bit inflexible. If I could set them when the product is instantiated, that would be great. Can I set these parameters in the manage_add method and expect them to persist for the life of the instance?? If not is there a work around for a situation like this?? TIA AM -- ================================================================== Aseem Mohanty Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231 ================================================================== "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped right there!!" -- Steve Gonedes ================================================================== From chrism@zope.com Sat Dec 7 02:27:19 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 06 Dec 2002 21:27:19 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <6974649.1039223591@liza> References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> <6974649.1039223591@liza> Message-ID: <1039228040.1100.3.camel@dorothy> On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML > nor in ZPT :-) What do you suggest people use for a templating language for email, JavaScript, SQL, etc? I think it's too much to expect them to use Python to do this (esp. wrt SQL methods). > I'd start the lessons with ZPT to only show static content > and may be macros. > Then the logical order would be introduction to python > scripts without HTML output - only show how they are > used to calculate and output simple values, lists, > dictionaries and so on. > Next chapter should show how one uses the scripts with > ZPT to provide output into HTML. > Then the usual things like Catalog, ZSQL, important > API parts, etc. > > Don't you think this would be clearer for the beginner? Sure. I'd love to rewrite the entirety of the Zope Book. But please notice that I'm asking for help finishing the existing chapters, so I don't think this is a realistic goal. - C From johanc@easypublisher.com Sat Dec 7 09:12:50 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 10:12:50 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Large File Support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021207093748.01f8e1b0@prue.torped.se> At 18:38 2002-12-06 -0500, george donnelly said: >are you sure you're using the python that comes with Zope? You might be >getting this error because you're using the Python that comes with RedHat. > >this might be useful: >http://zope.org/Members/beacon/install_instructions To check if the Python version your using has large file support enabled, start the intepreter and open a file [ f=3Dopen('temp', 'w') ] and call [ f.tell() ] it should return a long [ 0L ] if LFS i enabled. (otherwise it returns an integer [ 0 ]) Regards, Johan Carlsson > > From: "Kevin Carlson" > > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:11:59 -0500 > > To: > > Subject: [Zope] Large File Support > > > > I am running Zope 2.6 on RedHat Linux version 7.2, kernel version= 2.4.7-10 > > and, in case it matters, glibc-2.2.4-13. According to the documents= that I > > have been reading online, the binary distribution of Zope 2.6 should= have > > large file support built in and should work on my current configuration. > > > > However, I am unable to open a 2GB+ Data.fs file either with Zope or by > > typing in "open('Data.fs')" from the python interpreter (using > > /zope/bin/python). I routinely get a "file too large" error. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From tino@wildenhain.de Sat Dec 7 11:11:13 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 12:11:13 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <1039228040.1100.3.camel@dorothy> References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> <6974649.1039223591@liza> <1039228040.1100.3.camel@dorothy> Message-ID: <46455970.1039263073@liza> Hi Chris, --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 21:27 -0500 Chris McDonough wrote: > On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: >> These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML >> nor in ZPT :-) > > What do you suggest people use for a templating language for email, > JavaScript, SQL, etc? I think it's too much to expect them to use > Python to do this (esp. wrt SQL methods). Oh, is it? I'd rather like to write %(name)s %(value)d then Recently I read the python-dbi spec and its very nice to see what you could do with the above form. There are even standard ways to do multiple querys or function calls. (Hope I can contribute a product for this as time permits) For E-Mail and Javascript templates I also find it less confusing if I can use %(var)s form. As a general solution for texts one can use "file" which has an edit tab for several releases of zope now. Then use it like this: context.thefile.read() % context.REQUEST.form or whatever seems appropriate to get values from. E-Mail even gets clearer with the solution since you can easyly loop and do whatever instead of multiple tags. Regards Tino > >> I'd start the lessons with ZPT to only show static content >> and may be macros. >> Then the logical order would be introduction to python >> scripts without HTML output - only show how they are >> used to calculate and output simple values, lists, >> dictionaries and so on. >> Next chapter should show how one uses the scripts with >> ZPT to provide output into HTML. >> Then the usual things like Catalog, ZSQL, important >> API parts, etc. >> >> Don't you think this would be clearer for the beginner? > > Sure. I'd love to rewrite the entirety of the Zope Book. But please > notice that I'm asking for help finishing the existing chapters, so I > don't think this is a realistic goal. > > - C > > From chrism@zope.com Sat Dec 7 12:47:41 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 07 Dec 2002 07:47:41 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <46455970.1039263073@liza> References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> <6974649.1039223591@liza> <1039228040.1100.3.camel@dorothy> <46455970.1039263073@liza> Message-ID: <1039265262.2590.3.camel@dorothy> On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 06:11, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > Hi Chris, > > --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 21:27 -0500 Chris McDonough > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > >> These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML > >> nor in ZPT :-) > > > > What do you suggest people use for a templating language for email, > > JavaScript, SQL, etc? I think it's too much to expect them to use > > Python to do this (esp. wrt SQL methods). > > Oh, is it? I'd rather like to write %(name)s %(value)d > then > Recently I read the python-dbi spec and its very nice to see > what you could do with the above form. There are even > standard ways to do multiple querys or function calls. > (Hope I can contribute a product for this as time permits) > > For E-Mail and Javascript templates I also find it less confusing > if I can use %(var)s form. > > As a general solution for texts one can use "file" which has an edit > tab for several releases of zope now. Then use it like this: > > context.thefile.read() % context.REQUEST.form > > or whatever seems appropriate to get values from. > > E-Mail even gets clearer with the solution since you can easyly > loop and do whatever instead of multiple tags. The solution then would be to write several new chapters that talk about how to do this. - C From bkc@murkworks.com Sat Dec 7 19:14:48 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 14:14:48 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Apache mod_rewrite 10 SECOND DELAY to Zope Message-ID: <3DF200EE.3822.103F4188@localhost> I think the latest Apache update (sent sometime in the past month or two from rhn) is not working well with Zope 2.6 I'm using mod_rewrite to pass through to Zope from apache virtual hosts. Now, every single request takes 10 seconds.. exactly 10 seconds. etherreal shows that there is a 10 second delay between the receipt of GET and the responding HTTP OK (and data). I've turned off keepalives in apache, no avail. I suspect the delay is in the rewrite -> zope connection. I turned off http_chunk in HTTPResponse.py no effect. I'm at a loss to find this 10 second delay. Anyone know where to look? Going directly to Zope (bypassing Apache) works fine. Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Sat Dec 7 19:46:07 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:46:07 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy Message-ID: <3DF24FFF.ECE50397@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Hi all, I have a strange connection problem with Zope + Apache + mod_proxy. Sometimes users click on links in their browsers (regardsless which browser: IE 5.5 or Netscape 4.7). The browser waits for data, but nothing comes back. If the user stopps the transfer and click on the link again the transfer will be done immediatly. Has anybody an idea what to do ? Regards, Dirk From mail@peterbe.com Sat Dec 7 19:14:08 2002 From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson) Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 19:14:08 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Scan for URLs from string Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021207191011.01dcc710@mail.grenna.net> I'm looking for a good regular expression that can spot URLs in a text string. Either that or a regular expression that can deduce whether a string piece is a URL or not. I would like to display piece of text where weblinks are converted to Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using one or the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any pointers would be appreciated. Michael From alet@librelogiciel.com Sat Dec 7 20:23:41 2002 From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:23:41 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Scan for URLs from string In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021207191011.01dcc710@mail.grenna.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021207191011.01dcc710@mail.grenna.net> Message-ID: <20021207202341.GA24725@mail.librelogiciel.com> --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 07:14:08PM +0000, Peter Bengtsson wrote: > I'm looking for a good regular expression that can spot URLs in a text > string. the attached gzipped code "should" work for http protocol hth Jerome Alet --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="r.gz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 H4sICIZY8j0AA3IA7Vltb5swEP6eX0G7pYvJC1m7bmqiiGTtpkWa2mrtJm3GmkhwFiQCCEhf vf722QYCSUkzjKqiqgpSDNw9vrvnfD6ZV9L51PQlD//BV65ER6YtBVMsufORZY4lw5nppt2Q Js7cNiTHlgZnp8fScPjtsFUxZ67jBVS1Upl7Fr4KPH0cOF7P266pnWkQuB1FoaP0BfXmzaD5 SzPQ6j1pAjm5AyrQWkBOJDbLAxKKaEYdsL9WNAa3e38BexK/pLJ0pGSa9Vpr/m7Vt+Q3NdBA DLBKX00Gzc90jttdikNgt9Pf6SEgL4MIIYQgmloQRaU/JjN5MOL/A6kuPCsGANQ+UNcZ8rTU F+JeLcy9usx9N7h2cQ8Ohke6yV0JmbTxpS/OoqJ22Bz1finCz9+msFJAkLrSZMEgmhzK2XaJ q4ay2ZEoLyIFhh1gy8bBy7rcuC6VMF5/HHeKvdLmQERwZvDZwmOrO4uDh2l7SJPTXm0fiBGf KlgLDAETeGWKq9OlbvqlJUjJGyQ54kZAUUCFlrri2z2ToG2ZFTiiSVUPYzoxLVwiJonljHVr 6vgBUEuyR3ODXc/xXew5JQpVZtI/dbBC7a4wDoPpFdJmVjAJy9Az+ojyELaS3xnmkSq93dMM At+9R4m/BO5/QHCgsyn5hNXdNl3ObHQyPCKOaQA+cZYdcrwNVdsUAfFOgKkvgn7vedws5Kpw C2fuwWn1NS+eYRRWvMpyGXYbaJ0tqyF5JlF5yY0oN3hpEUwNdeXUINf03ONGfi06cTLvSPcx cWxM/PkoMWYd4oZGJNVZ0utm70Br7beh5yNQ2v22JrZbhsB1keCnGM+lqPLE6WLf7oloM13P F1AVdjRmYmwaYi1NN+lIeJ9cHEeQ7SVTwvy+wLOZ+ZRZ/QhJTaCSjlRNtAFUinWAC/Uk2uZs TROYE3qnd4fClGbOsWoMv88RPA8Q/DJFzFxNJkWQAUjq3+PgF3SdJVKJT44K09vpK8xNtcuD /vMawVMXwU+YBx9+tfhx39BE8MznvBA+YCR9HCGwsLbI3DVV9ENAghEz1OWmMXuPDAR/XCCe U9SNxTP2H7nKXXzbPECaIacTsaAzRc1g1WgJYFkgnIFKMCIoUfBwHEIx6RMHwWMbiRWSVDhZ csUn8pP4QL7EPUlt5dNGGlzjrm/dha6DDN8JZGW8vn7HywUR7uRR9B7XqrxGkZLFaJt/P/Ww 1JM83Bo7M9e0cC39SRVU/gEnTEYRpx0AAA== --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- From dieter@handshake.de Sat Dec 7 20:02:25 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:02:25 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15858.21457.636402.852659@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Patrick Stinson writes: > why is it that this doesn't set the inherited site_url property in the newly > created instance of PK_MusicTrack? > > request = context.REQUEST > instance = container.PK_MusicTrack.createInObjectManager(request['id'], > request) > request.set('site_url', instance.absolute_url()) > instance.propertysheets.common.manage_editProperties(request) > > > I realize that if PK_MusicTrack inherits site_url, it won't be in > propertysheets.common, but HOW do you set it then? In what property sheet have you defined "site_url"? If the name of this property sheet is "PS", then you change it with instance.propertysheets.PS.manage_change/editProperties(...) Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Sat Dec 7 20:13:33 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:13:33 +0100 Subject: [Zope] SSLAbsoluteURL / CMF question In-Reply-To: <200212062101.gB6L1J4Q024568@dick.jymis.com> References: <200212062101.gB6L1J4Q024568@dick.jymis.com> Message-ID: <15858.22125.50897.392628@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Michael writes: > A friend of mine has Zope2.5.1 with CMF running on Debian 3.0r0, Kernel > 2.2.19, Apache 1.3.26-1.1, Apache-SSL 1.3.26.1+1.48-, and Python 2.1.3-4. > He installed the SSLAbsoluteURL product in /path/to/zope/lib/python/Products. > Re-started Zope and nothing. The product does not appear in > /Control_Panel/Products. Has anyone else had this problem? I do not know "SSLAbsoluteURL", but whenever you have problems like this: Activate Zope logging (--> doc/LOGGING.txt) and look, what you find in the log file. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Sat Dec 7 20:21:05 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:21:05 +0100 Subject: [Zope] class variable persistence question In-Reply-To: <3DF14C76.4010901@neurobs.com> References: <3DF14C76.4010901@neurobs.com> Message-ID: <15858.22577.128467.350101@gargle.gargle.HOWL> AM writes: > I am writing a custom user folder. In the product I have a config.py > file that has a number of parameters defined that are used all over the > place by other classes. These parameters specify some global variables, > that I would like to set when a new instance of the product is created. > > If these parameters are preset then there is no problem at all, but that > makes my product a bit inflexible. If I could set them when the product > is instantiated, that would be great. > > Can I set these parameters in the manage_add method and expect them to > persist for the life of the instance?? When you put them in the instance, you can. When you put them in the class, they are not persistent but live only during the process' lifetime. > If not is there a work around for a situation like this?? I would read the configuration file during product import and populate the class with the values read. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Sat Dec 7 20:18:29 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:18:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Deletion of ZClass Object Does not Remove it from Catalog In-Reply-To: <3DF11335.40098910@uleth.ca> References: <3DF11335.40098910@uleth.ca> Message-ID: <15858.22421.12892.490454@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Edward Pollard writes: > I've got my bastardised ZClass based of Page Tempate, I've made it > Catalog aware. > > Creating the item puts it in the ZCatalog. Fantastic. > > With the help of this list I've constructed the appropriate forms so > that editing the properties is reflected in the Catalog. Brilliant. > > Deleting items does not delete them from the catalog. Damn. > > Well, while 2 for 3 is good, I need to conquor this last little problem. Strange. Apparently, your way to make it Catalog aware was not complete. You know, that "CatalogAware" must be the first inherited class (as otherwise, "manage_afterAdd" and "manage_beforeDelete", the hooks to provide catalog awarability, may be taken from another class). As it looks like, the effective "manage_beforeDelete" is not the one of "CatalogAware". > ... > Could this relate to not using the default catalog? ('Catalog') I had to > change the constructor when I moved to a different Z Catalog, is there > something I have to change in the destructor? (Which, really, I don't > see anywhere. Do I have to create one? What on earth would it look > like?) No, both "manage_afterAdd" and "manage_beforeDelete" should look at the same attribute to find the catalog. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Sat Dec 7 20:12:18 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:12:18 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Accessing Content of a Page Template In Python In-Reply-To: <3DF0F25C.790AFC6E@uleth.ca> References: <3DF0F25C.790AFC6E@uleth.ca> Message-ID: <15858.22050.968350.313141@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Edward Pollard writes: > ... > If I have a text file in a directory, I can get the content from it from > simply > eg > theContent = context.myFile > > How can I get the content out of a Page Template object? You can use "document_src" and (maybe "PrincipiaSearchSource"). Both are protected by "View management screens". I found this out with my "DocFinder" product: > A related problem I have is that I can call my script from the context > of a file object, but not a Page Template. > eg. > myFile/myScript > > This allows me to access the file as 'context'. Now, I want this script > to work on Files and Page Templates, but when I try to access > myPageTemplate/myScript, it simply displays the rendered template. Is > there any way to do something like this? I fear that is because Page Templates bind the "traversal_subpath" (like Python Scripts do). Unlike with Python Scripts, they do not provide a way to customize this behaviour. I do not know why they bind "traversal_subpath". I think, it was accidental (because the inherited "Script" does it). Maybe, you file a collector report. The effect of binding "traversal_subpath" is that URL traversal stops at the object. The remaining URL path goes to the "traversal_subpath". This is lost for Page Templates, as it is not exposed (you see, it feels like a bug). Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Sat Dec 7 20:00:10 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:00:10 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritancs:propertysheets In-Reply-To: References: <15857.9657.559361.818732@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <15858.21322.477315.480885@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Patrick Stinson writes: > sorry for asking something this specific, but hidden attributes? I'm not > trying to do anythin special here, it's simple inheritance. A super class > has an attribute, I want to access it via one of its subclasses. Could you > find it in your hear to give me a quick code example? When the derived class redefines an attribute ("site_url" in your case) of the inherited class, this definition hides the inherited one. But maybe, that is not your problem. When you want to access an (unhidden) attribute of the inherited class, you do it in the same way as for the own attributes: classInstance.attribute By the way, Zope implements properties as attributes. Thus, normal attriute access gives you (read only) access to properties. When you want to change a property, you must use either the PropertyManager (for standard properties, such as "title") or the PropertySheet (for properties in a property sheet) API. This is either: classInstance.manage_change/editProperties(...) (PropertyManager API) or classInstance.propertysheets.sheetName.manage_change/editProperties(...) (PropertySheet API) Note that you cannot (easily) change inherited properties when the property sheet (the property is defined in) has the same name in the inherited and derived classes (avoid identical names!). Dieter PS: Please stay on the list. From jo@meder.de Sat Dec 7 23:14:26 2002 From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:14:26 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Scan for URLs from string In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021207191011.01dcc710@mail.grenna.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021207191011.01dcc710@mail.grenna.net> Message-ID: <20021207231426.GC2780@meder.de> --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Am 07.12.2002, 20:14 Uhr schryb Peter Bengtsson : > I would like to display piece of text where weblinks are converted to HREF... > Just like when you're reading emails that contain links. Those parsing > usually go by startswith("http://") or startswith("www.") I guess. > > Anybody got one? ...or has an idea of a module that already does this that > I can nick. We use the attached code (it doesn't use regular expressions, but it works pretty well for us). It can add links to plain text or html, doesn't destroy URLs inside tags (like in ) and recognizes "http://", "ftp://", "www." and things containing "@". Hope it helps. Jo. -- Internetmanufaktur Jo Meder ---------------------- Berlin, Germany http://www.meder.de/ ------------------- fon: ++49-30-417 17 63 33 Kollwitzstr. 75 ------------------------ fax: ++49-30-417 17 63 45 10435 Berlin --------------------------- mob: ++49-170- 2 98 89 97 Public GnuPG-Key ---------- http://www.meder.de/keys/jo-pubkey.txt --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="addhrefs.py" import string def minpositive(px,px1): if px<0: if px1>=0: return px1 return -1 if px1<0: return px return min(px,px1) def addhrefs(text): tags=text.split("<") newtags=[] in_link=0 for tag in tags: ltag=tag.lower() if not tag: newtags.append("") continue if ltag[0]=="a": in_link=1 elif ltag[0:1]=="/a": in_link=0 if not in_link: p=tag.find(">") if p<0: p=0 tag_pre=tag[:p] tag=tag[p:] ltag=ltag[p:] while tag: is_maillink=0 has_address=ltag.find("www.") has_address=minpositive(has_address,ltag.find("http://")) has_address=minpositive(has_address,ltag.find("ftp://")) has_address=minpositive(has_address,ltag.find("@")) if has_address>=0: address_start=has_address while address_start>=p: if tag[address_start] in (">"," ","\t","\r","\n",'"',"'"): break address_start-=1 if tag[address_start] in (">"," ","\t","\r","\n",'"',"'"): address_start+=1 address_end=has_address while address_end=0: link=""+address+"" else: if address[:3].lower()=="www": link=""+address+"" else: link=""+address+"" tag_pre+=tag[:address_start]+link tag=tag[address_end:] ltag=ltag[address_end:] else: tag_pre+=tag tag=ltag="" tag=tag_pre newtags.append(tag) return string.join(newtags,"<") --rwEMma7ioTxnRzrJ-- From jo@meder.de Sat Dec 7 23:18:14 2002 From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:18:14 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Apache mod_rewrite 10 SECOND DELAY to Zope In-Reply-To: <3DF200EE.3822.103F4188@localhost> References: <3DF200EE.3822.103F4188@localhost> Message-ID: <20021207231814.GD2780@meder.de> Am 07.12.2002, 20:14 Uhr schryb Brad Clements : > Now, every single request takes 10 seconds.. exactly 10 seconds. This looks like someone waiting for a timeout. Perhaps some lookup (DNS maybe?) isn't working? > etherreal shows that there is a 10 second delay between the receipt of GET and the > responding HTTP OK (and data). Is that between the browser and Apache or between Apache and Zope? Jo. -- Internetmanufaktur Jo Meder ---------------------- Berlin, Germany http://www.meder.de/ ------------------- fon: ++49-30-417 17 63 33 Kollwitzstr. 75 ------------------------ fax: ++49-30-417 17 63 45 10435 Berlin --------------------------- mob: ++49-170- 2 98 89 97 Public GnuPG-Key ---------- http://www.meder.de/keys/jo-pubkey.txt From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Sun Dec 8 00:20:47 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 19:20:47 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Large File Support In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021207093748.01f8e1b0@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: Thanks very much -- this helped me narrow down the problem. Things are working correctly now. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] [mailto:johanc@easypublisher.com] Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 4:13 AM To: Kevin Carlson Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Large File Support At 18:38 2002-12-06 -0500, george donnelly said: >are you sure you're using the python that comes with Zope? You might be >getting this error because you're using the Python that comes with RedHat. > >this might be useful: >http://zope.org/Members/beacon/install_instructions To check if the Python version your using has large file support enabled, start the intepreter and open a file [ f=open('temp', 'w') ] and call [ f.tell() ] it should return a long [ 0L ] if LFS i enabled. (otherwise it returns an integer [ 0 ]) Regards, Johan Carlsson > > From: "Kevin Carlson" > > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:11:59 -0500 > > To: > > Subject: [Zope] Large File Support > > > > I am running Zope 2.6 on RedHat Linux version 7.2, kernel version 2.4.7-10 > > and, in case it matters, glibc-2.2.4-13. According to the documents that I > > have been reading online, the binary distribution of Zope 2.6 should have > > large file support built in and should work on my current configuration. > > > > However, I am unable to open a 2GB+ Data.fs file either with Zope or by > > typing in "open('Data.fs')" from the python interpreter (using > > /zope/bin/python). I routinely get a "file too large" error. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas as to why this might be happening? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kevin -- Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: Västmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From news@conquered.org Sun Dec 8 05:40:00 2002 From: news@conquered.org (Luis Cortes) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 22:40:00 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? Message-ID: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C29E41.93B746C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems to me that Zope is almost there. Can anyone tell me why, or why not. Thanks ahead of time, Luis. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C29E41.93B746C0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Luis A. Cortes.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Luis A. Cortes.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Cortes;Luis;A.;Mr. FN:Luis A. Cortes ORG:Conquered.org TITLE:Owner TEL;WORK;VOICE:(915) 328-4103 ADR;WORK:;;3012 E. Yandell;El Paso;TX;79903;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:3012 E. Yandell=3D0D=3D0AEl Paso, = TX 79903=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL;WORK:http://www.conquered.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:lcortes@conquered.org REV:20021208T054000Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C29E41.93B746C0-- From stephan.richter@tufts.edu Sun Dec 8 05:44:48 2002 From: stephan.richter@tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:44:48 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> Message-ID: <200212080044.48343.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> On Sunday 08 December 2002 00:40, Luis Cortes wrote: > Seems to me that Zope is almost there. Can anyone tell me why, or why not. Interesting you bring it up, since Steve Alexander and I discussed this for Zope 3 just the other day. First of all, the LDAP protocol is huge and difficult! It would be great, if we could start from some sort of a Python-based LDAP implementation to start with. >From then on, it is all pretty easy... Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From tino@wildenhain.de Sun Dec 8 08:36:21 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:36:21 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy In-Reply-To: <3DF24FFF.ECE50397@rasselstein-hoesch.de> References: <3DF24FFF.ECE50397@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <123563725.1039340181@liza> Hi Dirk, --On Samstag, 7. Dezember 2002 20:46 +0100 Dirk Datzert wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a strange connection problem with Zope + Apache + mod_proxy. > > Sometimes users click on links in their browsers (regardsless > which browser: IE 5.5 or Netscape 4.7). The browser waits for data, > but nothing comes back. If the user stopps the transfer and click > on the link again the transfer will be done immediatly. Can you tell us what versions of the programs you have? Did you try to access your zope application directly to compare the behavior? May be you can use ethereal or tcpflow to debug this further e.g. who is causing the problem and when. Is there any thing in the apache log file, compared to the z2.log etc. Just some ideas Regards Tino From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Sun Dec 8 08:45:42 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:45:42 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy References: <3DF24FFF.ECE50397@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <123563725.1039340181@liza> Message-ID: <3DF306B6.89DEEF79@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Tino Wildenhain schrieb: > > Hi Dirk, > > --On Samstag, 7. Dezember 2002 20:46 +0100 Dirk Datzert > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a strange connection problem with Zope + Apache + mod_proxy. > > > > Sometimes users click on links in their browsers (regardsless > > which browser: IE 5.5 or Netscape 4.7). The browser waits for data, > > but nothing comes back. If the user stopps the transfer and click > > on the link again the transfer will be done immediatly. > > Can you tell us what versions of the programs you have? Apache version / mod_proxy 1.3.19 Zope version 2.3.3 > Did you try to access your zope application directly > to compare the behavior? Yes, but the error can't be repeated with or without apache. Sometimes it works for a long time until next transfer is blocked. And testing with zope directly I didn't saw this blocking, but maybe the time was to short to see it. > May be you can use > ethereal or tcpflow to debug this further e.g. who is causing > the problem and when. > Is there any thing in the apache log file, compared to the z2.log > etc. Will look next time! Good idea. Regards, Dirk From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Sun Dec 8 08:49:01 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:49:01 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> Message-ID: <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Hi Luis, Zope is an application server, where you can run your own LDAP-administration software. But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with LDAPUserFolder) but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. Regards, Dirk From jokke.heikkila@kuva.fi Sun Dec 8 13:26:22 2002 From: jokke.heikkila@kuva.fi (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jokke_Heikkil=E4?=) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 15:26:22 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Zope] Apache+Zope=manage GUI gets screwed? Message-ID: <63803.195.255.121.254.1039353982.squirrel@posti.kuva.fi> If you know how to solve this... I'm running Zope behind Apache and at the zope root there's a folder "info" which holds the site under zope. The idea of my setup is that anything else than http://www.kuva.fi/info/whatever is served from Apache and that .../info/whatever path comes from Zope. My httpd.conf looks like this ** ProxyPass /info/ http://www.kuva.fi:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.kuva.fi:80/VirtualHostRoot/info/ ProxyPassReverse /info/ http://www.kuva.fi:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.kuva.fi:80/VirtualHostRoot/info/ RewriteRule /info/.* http://www.kuva.fi:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.kuva.fi:80/VirtualHostRoot/info/ [R] Redirect /index.html http://www.kuva.fi/info/ ** Now this setup runs ok, but when I want to manage it, all the icons and css styles and that gets lost. The problem is that e.g. the zopes own manage_page_style.css gets looked from Apache's side and not from Zope. Hopefully I'm making some sense :-)If I've crasped this right, the problem is that for some reason the managing system generates URL's for icons which aren't proxyed but instead they point to the Apache's document root. Any ideas how to fix this? Using the actual ip address (193.167.128.250:8080/manage) instead of the hostname will work, but its not very convenient. jokke h. From chrisw@nipltd.com Sun Dec 8 14:14:13 2002 From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:14:13 +0000 Subject: [Zope] How to access Zope root in Script (Python) References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021126175013.022842a0@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> <15844.38.426039.823185@galsan.espresto.com> <3DE64065.10604@gmx.net> <009d01c2970d$0d1e8c30$89505018@cr582427a> <3DE6727E.3060702@gmx.net> <3DE75BC4.5040004@nipltd.com> <3DE77F03.2000608@gmx.net> <3DE792F8.9000906@nipltd.com> <3DE797E6.7080601@gmx.net> Message-ID: <3DF353B5.10505@nipltd.com> Oliver Bleutgen wrote: > > Yes, but I don't know of an analogous concept for zope's or python's > object trees (ignoring restrictedTraverse). Why are you ignoring restrictedTraverse? That's exactly what the Traversable interface (of which it is a part) was built for... > I thought of restrictedTraverse always just as a utility for the > translation of paths into objects. It is. > Why do we have an aq_parent, when there is also a > restrictedTraverse('..'), aq_parent is very much an implementation detail, whereas restrictedTraverse is an interface who's implementation may or may not need aq_parent to work. Squishdot and its postings implement the Traversable interface but do their aquisition wrapping differently... > or, conversly, why is getPhysicalRoot() a > python (product) only method while restrictedTraverse('/') does the same > and is unrestricted? That, I suspect, is purely by chance. I see now reason why getPhysicalRoot isn't protected identically to restrictedTraverse('/'). cheers, Chris From chrisw@nipltd.com Sun Dec 8 14:21:22 2002 From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:21:22 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Regarding mail notification References: <72669A0FE83515438921FDE03D493647052F03DC@kecmsg09.ad.infosys.com> Message-ID: <3DF35562.2090105@nipltd.com> Chinku Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I want to implement a mail notification for any new posting that is made > on a Squishdot discussion forum that I have. Why do you want to get notified? > If any one has done something on similar lines please reply. Try ticking the mail boxes on your Squishdot Site's options tab once you've created a MailHost object in the root of your Zope instance. cheers, Chris From chrisw@nipltd.com Sun Dec 8 14:22:12 2002 From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:22:12 +0000 Subject: [Zope] How to access Zope root in Script (Python) References: <3DEB2EED.3060003@nipltd.com> <15852.52231.220454.951686@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <3DF35594.6000500@nipltd.com> Skip Montanaro wrote: > tom> ... I hate the fact that the Zope error page is less informative ... > > Chris> try this one: > > ... > > Is there something like cgitb available? If I knew what cgitb was, I could comment :-S Chris From luca@wetron.es Sun Dec 8 14:43:38 2002 From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:43:38 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> Dirk Datzert wrote: > Hi Luis, > > Zope is an application server, where you can run your own > LDAP-administration software. > > But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! > > You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with LDAPUserFolder) > but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in zope and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client that can query ldap servers for its address book. Bye -- Luca Olivetti From stephan.richter@tufts.edu Sun Dec 8 14:56:56 2002 From: stephan.richter@tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:56:56 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> Message-ID: <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Dirk Datzert wrote: > > Hi Luis, > > > > Zope is an application server, where you can run your own > > LDAP-administration software. > > > > But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! > > > > You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with LDAPUserFolder) > > but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. > > Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in zope > and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client that > can query ldap servers for its address book. Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP is a complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There is an LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a start. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us Sun Dec 8 15:08:51 2002 From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:08:51 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> Message-ID: <200212081008.51189.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> Twisted (http://www.twistedmatrix.com) is where you would want to be for=20 something like this. At some point in Zope 3, Twisted and Zope may become= =20 more aware of eachother, so my suggestion is to help develop a Twisted-ba= sed=20 LDAP server, which could then easily communicate with Zope. Hope this helps, Eron On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:56 am, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > Dirk Datzert wrote: > > > Hi Luis, > > > > > > Zope is an application server, where you can run your own > > > LDAP-administration software. > > > > > > But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! > > > > > > You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with LDAPUserFold= er) > > > but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. > > > > Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in z= ope > > and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client t= hat > > can query ldap servers for its address book. > > Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP is a > complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There is = an > LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a start. > > Regards, > Stephan From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Sun Dec 8 15:10:59 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 16:10:59 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> Message-ID: <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Stephan Richter schrieb: > > On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote: > > Dirk Datzert wrote: > > > Hi Luis, > > > > > > Zope is an application server, where you can run your own > > > LDAP-administration software. > > > > > > But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! > > > > > > You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with LDAPUserFolder) > > > but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. > > > > Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in zope > > and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client that > > can query ldap servers for its address book. > > Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP is a > complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There is an > LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a start. > I would suggest: put the contacts database on a real LDAP-Server (e.g. openldap - full functional and very well working LDAP-server) Write on top of Zope your management tool for that contacts database. There are some products to do this: LDAPUserFolder + LDAPDirectoryManager -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel ! Regards, Dirk From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us Sun Dec 8 15:18:24 2002 From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <200212081018.24410.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> The thing is, this happens all the time. Zope itself does this in several= =20 places. I guess it also depends though on how much time you're willing to= =20 invest (or have in the first place!) ;-) Cheers, Eron > -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel ! > > Regards, > Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From stephan.richter@tufts.edu Sun Dec 8 15:27:30 2002 From: stephan.richter@tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:27:30 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <200212081008.51189.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> <200212081008.51189.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> Message-ID: <200212081027.30719.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:08, Eron Lloyd wrote: > Twisted (http://www.twistedmatrix.com) is where you would want to be for > something like this. At some point in Zope 3, Twisted and Zope may become > more aware of eachother, so my suggestion is to help develop a > Twisted-based LDAP server, which could then easily communicate with Zope. Well, actually Twisted works already for a long time with Zope 3. Itamar worked hard on getting this done. However, there are several issues with a Twisted-based LDAP approach: 1. The current Twisted LDAP code does not have the right license. Anyway, I prefer having something in the Zope core with the ZPL. 2. I still have to write all the Request and Publisher code, which is also a lot of work, especially for something like LDAP. (I thought the VFSPublisher code was a lot, but this is about 5 times (wild guess) bigger.) On the other hand, Shane and I took a lot of time to modularize the server framework for Zope 3 when porting Medusa to the new framework, which could mean that the Twisted module would do just fine. But then Steve and I agree we do not want our LDAP server depend on Twisted. :-) I will have to investigate that further when I have time. But I still would love it, if some others would step up and write a **basic** LDAP server. I can help them to integrate it into Zope later. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From stephan.richter@tufts.edu Sun Dec 8 15:30:59 2002 From: stephan.richter@tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:30:59 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <200212081018.24410.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <200212081018.24410.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> Message-ID: <200212081030.59420.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:18, Eron Lloyd wrote: > The thing is, this happens all the time. Zope itself does this in several > places. I guess it also depends though on how much time you're willing to > invest (or have in the first place!) ;-) Well, Gnome and KDE reinvent the wheel too among each other. Different implmenetations for different purposes is not necessarily a bad thing. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From stephan.richter@tufts.edu Sun Dec 8 15:32:15 2002 From: stephan.richter@tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:32:15 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <200212080956.56699.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <200212081032.15132.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:10, Dirk Datzert wrote: > I would suggest: put the contacts database on a real LDAP-Server (e.g. > openldap - full functional and very well working LDAP-server) > > Write on top of Zope your management tool for that contacts database. > There are some products to do this: LDAPUserFolder + > LDAPDirectoryManager > > -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel ! Hi Dirk! I think the approach you suggest here does not solve the problem. The idea is to have a nice contact database (or whatever data you like) in the ZODB and then you want to be able to use it in Mozilla...at least that is Steve's motivation. HAving data in the ZODB and serve it up via LDAP is a REALLY cool idea. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From ajole-1@gci.net Sun Dec 8 03:45:18 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:45:18 -0000 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritancs:propertysheets In-Reply-To: <15858.21322.477315.480885@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: yes, I noticed that property sheets with identical names in super and sub classes is bad. It does help to know that instance.property is read-only. re-implementing attriubutes? I don't even think that's possible! Thanks for the help with the PropertyManager/Sheet tip. I don't think I ever would have found that elsewhere. -P -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Dieter Maurer Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 8:00 PM To: Patrick Stinson Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] ZClass inheritancs:propertysheets Patrick Stinson writes: > sorry for asking something this specific, but hidden attributes? I'm not > trying to do anythin special here, it's simple inheritance. A super class > has an attribute, I want to access it via one of its subclasses. Could you > find it in your hear to give me a quick code example? When the derived class redefines an attribute ("site_url" in your case) of the inherited class, this definition hides the inherited one. But maybe, that is not your problem. When you want to access an (unhidden) attribute of the inherited class, you do it in the same way as for the own attributes: classInstance.attribute By the way, Zope implements properties as attributes. Thus, normal attriute access gives you (read only) access to properties. When you want to change a property, you must use either the PropertyManager (for standard properties, such as "title") or the PropertySheet (for properties in a property sheet) API. This is either: classInstance.manage_change/editProperties(...) (PropertyManager API) or classInstance.propertysheets.sheetName.manage_change/editProperties(...) (PropertySheet API) Note that you cannot (easily) change inherited properties when the property sheet (the property is defined in) has the same name in the inherited and derived classes (avoid identical names!). Dieter PS: Please stay on the list. _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From ajole-1@gci.net Sun Dec 8 03:45:22 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:45:22 -0000 Subject: [Zope] ZClass inheritance In-Reply-To: <15858.21457.636402.852659@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: yes, exactly. Up to this point I've never thought about the names of [sub-superclass] propertysheets after I'd followed the tutorials in the Zope Book. -P -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Dieter Maurer Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 8:02 PM To: Patrick Stinson Cc: zope Subject: Re: [Zope] ZClass inheritance Patrick Stinson writes: > why is it that this doesn't set the inherited site_url property in the newly > created instance of PK_MusicTrack? > > request = context.REQUEST > instance = container.PK_MusicTrack.createInObjectManager(request['id'], > request) > request.set('site_url', instance.absolute_url()) > instance.propertysheets.common.manage_editProperties(request) > > > I realize that if PK_MusicTrack inherits site_url, it won't be in > propertysheets.common, but HOW do you set it then? In what property sheet have you defined "site_url"? If the name of this property sheet is "PS", then you change it with instance.propertysheets.PS.manage_change/editProperties(...) Dieter _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From ajole-1@gci.net Sun Dec 8 03:46:51 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:46:51 -0000 Subject: [Zope] RE: Qt/Free for Windows In-Reply-To: <3DF27C17.9060701@attbi.com> Message-ID: that could have something to do with the fact that everyone is _used_ to paying for microsoft products. No one is used to paying for qt, so it's more of an issue. -----Original Message----- From: owner-qt-interest@trolltech.com [mailto:owner-qt-interest@trolltech.com]On Behalf Of ticktack Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:54 PM To: justin-qt@affinix.com Cc: qt-interest@trolltech.com Subject: Re: Qt/Free for Windows I really don't see the point of releasing source code for Windows. Microsoft never release any of their visual** source code, it seems that everybody using it is pretty happy with it. Now since troll release source code to unix (linux) version, Windows programmers feel unfair. The biggest reason that I probably support troll not to release source code for Windows is that I am afraid that it might help Microsoft. I don't want to see another good company being destroy by Microsoft. I don't know why people want to invest their own time to code on prepritory OS using GPL software. TT Justin Karneges wrote: >Hi, > >Yes, I realize we have beaten this horse to death already, however I came >across this project today: > >http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtwin/ > >This looks like quite an undertaking, though it seems so far there is little >progress. Basically, he wants to port Qt/X11 to Windows. Of course, >Trolltech has already done this, but he wants it GPL. > > -- List archive and information: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/ From seb@todesplanet.de Sun Dec 8 15:52:03 2002 From: seb@todesplanet.de (Sebastian Stark) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:52:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> Message-ID: <20021208155203.GA10293@devel.int.todesplanet.de> On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 03:43:38PM +0100, Luca Olivetti wrote: > Dirk Datzert wrote: > >Hi Luis, > > > >Zope is an application server, where you can run your own > >LDAP-administration software. > > > >But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! > > > >You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with LDAPUserFolder) > >but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. > > Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in zope > and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client that > can query ldap servers for its address book. In my opinion it would make a lot more sense if data are kept in a dedicated LDAP Server and Zope uses LDAP to query this server. Besides that: OpenLDAP can use different backends to store data. But I don't know how much effort it would be to make it use Zope databases. Implementing the LDAP protocol itself within Zope seems a bit overkill for me. -- Free your mind and your ass will follow -- http://www.funkaffair.de From ajole-1@gci.net Sun Dec 8 03:46:43 2002 From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 03:46:43 -0000 Subject: [Zope] RE: Qt/Free for Windows In-Reply-To: <200212061711.53550.justin-qt@affinix.com> Message-ID: I was referring more to the closed-source nature of the Windows operating system. from the non-commercial FAQ @trolltech: http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/noncomm.html#Q3 "Why didn't you release Qt for Windows under GPL? The GNU GPL and the Trolltech QPL are open-source, respectively Free Software licenses. Note the capital "F". We are not talking "free" as in "free beer", but "Free" as in "Free Speech". We released Qt/X11 under those licenses, because it runs as major component on totally Free operating systems, such as GNU/Linux and FreeBSD. Once Microsoft Windows is completely open source, we will reconsider." -----Original Message----- From: owner-qt-interest@trolltech.com [mailto:owner-qt-interest@trolltech.com]On Behalf Of Justin Karneges Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:12 AM To: qt-interest@trolltech.com Subject: Re: Qt/Free for Windows On Friday 06 December 2002 04:32 am, Patrick Stinson wrote: > I hate to burst your bubble on the "trolls," but it is said on the > trolltech website that a qt release like that (or any, for that matter) on > windows does not follow suit with their business model. That is the reason > that they have not, and do not intend to provide a free release, post-2.3. Yes, I know. However, I think their stance might be different in light of this porting project. It doesn't matter if Trolltech refuses to make a Free version for Windows. It is bad for them if such a port exists exists _at all_, regardless if it comes from them or not. I think Trolltech should care about this. Really, the free software developers just want a more workable situation. I'm sure Trolltech could intervene with a solution for everyone, rather than wait for an independent effort that could be damaging to them. If nobody was trying, then yeah they probably wouldn't (and shouldn't) care. -Justin -- List archive and information: http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/ From jens@zope.com Sun Dec 8 16:06:47 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:06:47 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <3DF36103.9D822C4A@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> dirk hits it on the head. why reinvent the wheel? it is not that hard to install and run OpenLDAP and even create your own custom schemata. and then there are products that enable you to maintain the data in LDAP from within zope itself. what's next, a gopher server for zope? ;) jens P.S.: i agree that it would be a somewhat cool thing. but is the undoubtedly large effort worth it? you'll work a lot and never match the capabilities of a real LDAP server. On Sunday, Dec 8, 2002, at 10:10 US/Eastern, Dirk Datzert wrote: > > > Stephan Richter schrieb: >> >> On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote: >>> Dirk Datzert wrote: >>>> Hi Luis, >>>> >>>> Zope is an application server, where you can run your own >>>> LDAP-administration software. >>>> >>>> But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! >>>> >>>> You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with >>>> LDAPUserFolder) >>>> but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. >>> >>> Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in >>> zope >>> and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client >>> that >>> can query ldap servers for its address book. >> >> Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP is >> a >> complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There >> is an >> LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a >> start. >> > > I would suggest: put the contacts database on a real LDAP-Server (e.g. > openldap - full functional and very well working LDAP-server) > > Write on top of Zope your management tool for that contacts database. > There are some products to do this: LDAPUserFolder + > LDAPDirectoryManager > > -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel ! > > Regards, > Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From luca@wetron.es Sun Dec 8 16:19:06 2002 From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:19:06 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <20021208155203.GA10293@devel.int.todesplanet.de> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <3DF3077D.FC6BF7BB@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <3DF35A9A.3080301@wetron.es> <20021208155203.GA10293@devel.int.todesplanet.de> Message-ID: <3DF370FA.70002@wetron.es> Sebastian Stark wrote: > In my opinion it would make a lot more sense if data are kept in a > dedicated LDAP Server and Zope uses LDAP to query this server. Unless you've already collected your data in the zodb (this seems the same discussion as whether is better to keep your data in a relational database or the zodb, and the correct answer is: it depends ;-) > > Besides that: OpenLDAP can use different backends to store data. But I > don't know how much effort it would be to make it use Zope databases. I've just discovered that for my limited needs (serving the addresses already in the zodb to mozilla through ldap) the shell backend of openldap could do (e.g. writing a python script in zope that gives back the data in the format that openldap expects and writing a shell scripts that just queries zope with wget). The performance won't be stellar but I don't have many clients. Maybe this is what Luis could do too. Bye -- Luca Olivetti From stephan.richter@tufts.edu Sun Dec 8 16:19:17 2002 From: stephan.richter@tufts.edu (Stephan Richter) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:19:17 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> References: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> Message-ID: <200212081119.17374.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> On Sunday 08 December 2002 11:06, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > P.S.: i agree that it would be a somewhat cool thing. but is the > undoubtedly large effort worth it? you'll work a lot and never match > the capabilities of a real LDAP server. I think so. My goal is not to match all capabilities, but just enough so it can be used with Mozilla. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us Sun Dec 8 16:20:00 2002 From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <200212081027.30719.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> References: <000d01c29e7c$40e46b40$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> <200212081008.51189.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> <200212081027.30719.stephan.richter@tufts.edu> Message-ID: <200212081120.00071.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:27 am, Stephan Richter wrote: > On Sunday 08 December 2002 10:08, Eron Lloyd wrote: > > Twisted (http://www.twistedmatrix.com) is where you would want to be = for > > something like this. At some point in Zope 3, Twisted and Zope may be= come > > more aware of eachother, so my suggestion is to help develop a > > Twisted-based LDAP server, which could then easily communicate with Z= ope. > > Well, actually Twisted works already for a long time with Zope 3. Itama= r > worked hard on getting this done. Excellent. Three cheers to Itamar and others that led this effort! > However, there are several issues with a Twisted-based LDAP approach: > > 1. The current Twisted LDAP code does not have the right license. Anywa= y, I > prefer having something in the Zope core with the ZPL. When you say "something in the Zope core", do you mean LDAP *client* or=20 *server* code? I hope you mean client, as most users wouldn't need to hav= e a=20 full server available in the distribution. As an add-on, however, would b= e=20 very cool. I'll have to look into the licensing issues. From conversation= s in=20 #twisted, it looks like the ldaptor code will be going through some chang= es=20 (don't quote me on that one, though). > 2. I still have to write all the Request and Publisher code, which is a= lso > a lot of work, especially for something like LDAP. (I thought the > VFSPublisher code was a lot, but this is about 5 times (wild guess) > bigger.) Do you mean when communicating to an LDAP server? If this is the case it = may=20 make more sense to expose a Twisted Perspective Broker interface for data= =20 exchange. I could be wrong, since I'm not too familiar with VFSPublisher,= =20 yet. > On the other hand, Shane and I took a lot of time to modularize the ser= ver > framework for Zope 3 when porting Medusa to the new framework, which co= uld > mean that the Twisted module would do just fine. But then Steve and I a= gree > we do not want our LDAP server depend on Twisted. :-) Here is one of my main concerns. Twisted already provides a relatively st= able=20 generic client *and* server framework. Remember, Twisted is not just a We= b=20 server. Twisted is a network application framework as Zope is a Web=20 application framework. To push Zope more into becoming a generalized serv= er=20 platform on its own seems unneccessary (though I certainly praise your=20 efforts!). Also, the required dependancy of Twisted (which is only a smal= l=20 fraction of the actual Twisted codebase--the framework code), which will=20 provide many productivity and extensibility gains *greatly* outweighs the= =20 alternative (doing it from scratch). > I will have to investigate that further when I have time. But I still w= ould > love it, if some others would step up and write a **basic** LDAP server= =2E I > can help them to integrate it into Zope later. Awesome. I know it's probably finals time (it is for me, too). The next m= ajor=20 release of Twisted will see more work on the servers (this includes email= ,=20 news, messaging, LDAP, Web, and more). Twisted is becoming more mature al= l=20 the time, so keep it in mind. We'll probably be much closer to your needs= by=20 that point. > Regards, > Stephan Cheers, Eron From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us Sun Dec 8 16:37:24 2002 From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:37:24 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> References: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> Message-ID: <200212081137.24044.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> I think this is probably my biggest concern with Zope...what does it want= to=20 be? With Twisted, it's simple--it wants to become as much as possible, as= =20 integrated as possible, as soon as possible. The truth is, when developin= g=20 network applications, you *will* usually need several different disparate= =20 systems, like HTTP, IMAP, and LDAP. This is a big reason why platforms li= ke=20 MS Exchange are so popular. Also, as in projects like KDE, users benefit = from=20 the *tight* integration of it's applications. When building a Web communi= ty,=20 for example, it would be much easier to configure and develop when the We= b,=20 email, and messaging servers are all based on the same platform. Compared= to=20 using an Apache, Courier, Jabber combo, all having different needs,=20 administration, configuration, and communication facilities. So I guess t= his=20 is why the conversation keeps coming back up...users *want* that level of= =20 integration. Zope already has one foot in the door in this respect. So to= me,=20 it's never a matter of wheel re-invention, but a matter of integration an= d=20 need. The old UNIX adage, "do one thing well" is pretty much a thing of t= he=20 past. Cheers, Eron=20 On Sunday 08 December 2002 11:06 am, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > dirk hits it on the head. > > why reinvent the wheel? it is not that hard to install and run OpenLDAP > and even create your own custom schemata. and then there are products > that enable you to maintain the data in LDAP from within zope itself. > > what's next, a gopher server for zope? ;) > > jens > > P.S.: i agree that it would be a somewhat cool thing. but is the > undoubtedly large effort worth it? you'll work a lot and never match > the capabilities of a real LDAP server. > > On Sunday, Dec 8, 2002, at 10:10 US/Eastern, Dirk Datzert wrote: > > Stephan Richter schrieb: > >> On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote: > >>> Dirk Datzert wrote: > >>>> Hi Luis, > >>>> > >>>> Zope is an application server, where you can run your own > >>>> LDAP-administration software. > >>>> > >>>> But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! > >>>> > >>>> You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with > >>>> LDAPUserFolder) > >>>> but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. > >>> > >>> Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in > >>> zope > >>> and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client > >>> that > >>> can query ldap servers for its address book. > >> > >> Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP i= s > >> a > >> complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There > >> is an > >> LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a > >> start. > > > > I would suggest: put the contacts database on a real LDAP-Server (e.g= =2E > > openldap - full functional and very well working LDAP-server) > > > > Write on top of Zope your management tool for that contacts database. > > There are some products to do this: LDAPUserFolder + > > LDAPDirectoryManager > > > > -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel ! > > > > Regards, > > Dirk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From jens@zope.com Sun Dec 8 16:52:08 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:52:08 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <200212081137.24044.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> Message-ID: <6379F790-0ACD-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> maybe i'm very conservative on these matters, but i still believe very much in "do one thing well". if you're trying to do everything under the sun you'll end up doing a lot - but each implementation will end up being mediocre at best and will lack flexibility for power users. you might meet your goal (integration, ease of use for beginners) but you might lose the experienced users along the way. looking at the big picture, who is the audience asking for e.g. LDAP integration? from my continuing work on the LDAPUserFolder (which, by the way, is also built on a "do one thing, and do it well" philosophy) i can attest to the fact that the majority seems to be users with existing LDAP infrastructures (-> meaning the experienced users who need maximum flexibility). that audience most likely will not be interested in some limited LDAP server capability in zope itself. like i said, could just be me being very conservative in these matters. jens On Sunday, Dec 8, 2002, at 11:37 US/Eastern, Eron Lloyd wrote: > I think this is probably my biggest concern with Zope...what does it > want to > be? With Twisted, it's simple--it wants to become as much as possible, > as > integrated as possible, as soon as possible. The truth is, when > developing > network applications, you *will* usually need several different > disparate > systems, like HTTP, IMAP, and LDAP. This is a big reason why platforms > like > MS Exchange are so popular. Also, as in projects like KDE, users > benefit from > the *tight* integration of it's applications. When building a Web > community, > for example, it would be much easier to configure and develop when the > Web, > email, and messaging servers are all based on the same platform. > Compared to > using an Apache, Courier, Jabber combo, all having different needs, > administration, configuration, and communication facilities. So I > guess this > is why the conversation keeps coming back up...users *want* that level > of > integration. Zope already has one foot in the door in this respect. So > to me, > it's never a matter of wheel re-invention, but a matter of integration > and > need. The old UNIX adage, "do one thing well" is pretty much a thing > of the > past. > > Cheers, > > Eron > > On Sunday 08 December 2002 11:06 am, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: >> dirk hits it on the head. >> >> why reinvent the wheel? it is not that hard to install and run >> OpenLDAP >> and even create your own custom schemata. and then there are products >> that enable you to maintain the data in LDAP from within zope itself. >> >> what's next, a gopher server for zope? ;) >> >> jens >> >> P.S.: i agree that it would be a somewhat cool thing. but is the >> undoubtedly large effort worth it? you'll work a lot and never match >> the capabilities of a real LDAP server. >> >> On Sunday, Dec 8, 2002, at 10:10 US/Eastern, Dirk Datzert wrote: >>> Stephan Richter schrieb: >>>> On Sunday 08 December 2002 09:43, Luca Olivetti wrote: >>>>> Dirk Datzert wrote: >>>>>> Hi Luis, >>>>>> >>>>>> Zope is an application server, where you can run your own >>>>>> LDAP-administration software. >>>>>> >>>>>> But the LDAP-Server is a standalone server which is not zope ! >>>>>> >>>>>> You can bind users in zope against users in LDAP (with >>>>>> LDAPUserFolder) >>>>>> but this did not mean that zope is a LDAP-Server. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, but imagine the opposite: that you have a contacts database in >>>>> zope >>>>> and want it to be useable by, say, mozilla or any other mail client >>>>> that >>>>> can query ldap servers for its address book. >>>> >>>> Well, start an effort to write an LDAP server on top of Zope. LDAP >>>> is >>>> a >>>> complex protocol; I would be glad to see a Zope-based server. There >>>> is an >>>> LDAP server module for Twisted you might want to check out for a >>>> start. >>> >>> I would suggest: put the contacts database on a real LDAP-Server >>> (e.g. >>> openldap - full functional and very well working LDAP-server) >>> >>> Write on top of Zope your management tool for that contacts database. >>> There are some products to do this: LDAPUserFolder + >>> LDAPDirectoryManager >>> >>> -> use the right tool for the right issue, don't reinvent the wheel ! >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dirk >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>> (Related lists - >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> --- >> [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Sun Dec 8 16:55:25 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:55:25 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? References: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <200212081137.24044.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> Message-ID: <3DF3797D.6A8A41C3@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Hi Eron, Eron Lloyd schrieb: > > The truth is, when developing > network applications, you *will* usually need several different disparate > systems, like HTTP, IMAP, and LDAP. right > This is a big reason why platforms like > MS Exchange are so popular. and that's the mess :-) They don't see the complexitiy. > is why the conversation keeps coming back up...users *want* that level of > integration. but not all users *want* that! Some users *want* it, some users not. > need. The old UNIX adage, "do one thing well" is pretty much a thing of the > past. Who can say 'do all things well' and 'Yes, we did all things well' ? > Regards, Dirk From MAILER-DAEMON@sunsite.dk Sun Dec 8 17:18:50 2002 From: MAILER-DAEMON@sunsite.dk (MAILER-DAEMON@sunsite.dk) Date: 8 Dec 2002 17:18:50 -0000 Subject: [Zope] failure notice Message-ID: Hi. 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From renfro@tntech.edu Sun Dec 8 17:26:55 2002 From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:26:55 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Apache+Zope=manage GUI gets screwed? In-Reply-To: <63803.195.255.121.254.1039353982.squirrel@posti.kuva.fi> References: <63803.195.255.121.254.1039353982.squirrel@posti.kuva.fi> Message-ID: <20021208172655.GA24135@ch208h> On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 03:26:22PM +0200, Jokke Heikkil? wrote: > If I've crasped this right, the problem is that for some reason the > managing system generates URL's for icons which aren't proxyed but > instead they point to the Apache's document root. Any ideas how to > fix this? The simplest fix is to look in the manage page HTML source and see which directories are required. It may just be the '/p_' directory, but there may be others. Proxy whichever ones you need. -- Mike Renfro / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research, 931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu From bkc@murkworks.com Sun Dec 8 18:04:27 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:04:27 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Apache mod_rewrite 10 SECOND DELAY to Zope In-Reply-To: <3DF200EE.3822.103F4188@localhost> Message-ID: <3DF341EC.25857.152538D7@localhost> > I think the latest Apache update (sent sometime in the past month or two > from rhn) is not working well with Zope 2.6 > > I'm using mod_rewrite to pass through to Zope from apache virtual hosts. > > Now, every single request takes 10 seconds.. exactly 10 seconds. > Here is the answer. I have an identical system that does not have the problem. same version of apache, etc. example .. apache rewrite rules .. http://localhost/ .. I found that going to the myhost:8080/manage was fast. But, on the unix box, going to localhost:8080/manage took .. 10 seconds. aha! Even though /etc/host.conf has order hosts,bind and localhost is in /etc/hosts For some reason it was doing a dns lookup. I chased this down to /etc/resolv.conf Adding domain murkworks.com fixed the problem. --- For kicks anyway, I changed all "localhost" in httpd.conf to 127.0.0.1 anyway Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From dieter@handshake.de Sun Dec 8 18:51:02 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:51:02 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Apache+Zope=manage GUI gets screwed? In-Reply-To: <63803.195.255.121.254.1039353982.squirrel@posti.kuva.fi> References: <63803.195.255.121.254.1039353982.squirrel@posti.kuva.fi> Message-ID: <15859.38038.996772.964101@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Jokke Heikkil=E4 writes: > If you know how to solve this... >=20 > I'm running Zope behind Apache and at the zope root there's a folder > "info" which holds the site under zope. The idea of my setup is that > anything else than http://www.kuva.fi/info/whatever is served from Apa= che > and that .../info/whatever path comes from Zope. My httpd.conf looks l= ike > this > ** > ProxyPass /info/ > http://www.kuva.fi:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.kuva.fi:80/VirtualHos= tRoot/info/ > ProxyPassReverse /info/=20 > http://www.kuva.fi:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.kuva.fi:80/VirtualHos= tRoot/info/ > RewriteRule /info/.* =20 > http://www.kuva.fi:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.kuva.fi:80/VirtualHos= tRoot/info/ > [R] > Redirect /index.html http://www.kuva.fi/info/ > ** A small side note: you can live without the "ProxyPass" and "ProxyPassReverse" commands, when you use "[P]" instead of "[R]" for you rewrite rules. > Now this setup runs ok, but when I want to manage it, all the icons an= d > css styles and that gets lost. I can answer your question for the icons; maybe, this is true, too, for style sheets and other static content: Zope places them in pseudo folders "p_" and "misc_". You need to tell Apache that it directs requests for "^/p_/.*" and "^/misc_/.*" also to Zope. Dieter From skip@pobox.com Sun Dec 8 21:42:58 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 15:42:58 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Can I get the Find tab to work more like grep? Message-ID: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> Is there a way to get the Find tab to work more like regular grep/egrep, that is, to display lines matching the search string instead of just the names of the objects? Alternatively, is there some product or external method I can install which will accomplish the same goal? -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ From bill@libc.org Sun Dec 8 21:44:39 2002 From: bill@libc.org (Bill Anderson) Date: 08 Dec 2002 14:44:39 -0700 Subject: [Zope] PageTemplates and Macros/Slots outside of Zope Message-ID: <1039383879.1889.6.camel@locutus> I am doing quite a but of work with mod_python these days. Being spoiled, I am using PageTemplates outside of Zope. Basic usage is no problem. However, I am needing to start using macros/slots like I do in Zope. This will make it much easier for me to turn mod_python apps into Zope apps, and vica versa. Has anyone tried this yet, or have any pointers, tips, pitfalls, etc? Cheers, Bill -- Bill Anderson Linux in Boise Club From rjones@ekit-inc.com Sun Dec 8 22:40:43 2002 From: rjones@ekit-inc.com (Richard Jones) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:40:43 +1100 Subject: [Zope] PageTemplates and Macros/Slots outside of Zope In-Reply-To: <1039383879.1889.6.camel@locutus> References: <1039383879.1889.6.camel@locutus> Message-ID: <200212090940.43865.rjones@ekit-inc.com> On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 8:44 am, Bill Anderson wrote: > I am doing quite a but of work with mod_python these days. Being > spoiled, I am using PageTemplates outside of Zope. Basic usage is no > problem. However, I am needing to start using macros/slots like I do in > Zope. > > Has anyone tried this yet, or have any pointers, tips, pitfalls, etc? I am using PageTemplates in the Roundup project. I removed several Zope-specific parts (ExtensionClass / Acquisition stuff, mostly). It works really nicely :) http://roundup.sf.net/ The big issue I had to deal with was how to present data to the templates. In Zope, the data is (generally) well-organised already. Richard From news@conquered.org Sun Dec 8 23:06:10 2002 From: news@conquered.org (Luis Cortes) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:06:10 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? References: <0D6284EF-0AC7-11D7-8B03-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <200212081137.24044.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> <3DF3797D.6A8A41C3@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <002c01c29f0e$66bdd2b0$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> Sorry, I like a common look and feel. I have been looking at all the available LDAP clients, and they all have their pro's and con's ( java, c, perl, python, web based, k or g). Looking at LDAP itself, I can't explain why we need it since we have so many things like it including Zope (or vice-versa depending on your point of view). I been working on a comprehesive Linux Administration solution that doesn't jump you around to 12 different interfaces to get you what you need, unfortunately, this proves to be almost impossible. Most people write non-intuitive interfaces (myself included), so I have ended up with a montley crew of utilities that do - what I consider to be, comprehensive Linux administration. Okay, no more complaining. I need only zope to provide minimal support for LDAP. I guess that might include LDAP protocol, a port (389), and a way to suggest to zope that a directory is really LDAP and that objects are really LDAP objects. And that's it. ( I make it sound easier than it is right? ). Well, let me get back to my drudgery, I was thinking about writing a book -- Notes for Beginning Linux Administrators ( or how to annoy hard working Zopist ). Smile, Bye, Luis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Datzert" Cc: "Zope Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? > Hi Eron, > > Eron Lloyd schrieb: > > > > The truth is, when developing > > network applications, you *will* usually need several different disparate > > systems, like HTTP, IMAP, and LDAP. > > right > > > This is a big reason why platforms like > > MS Exchange are so popular. > > and that's the mess :-) They don't see the complexitiy. > > > is why the conversation keeps coming back up...users *want* that level of > > integration. > > but not all users *want* that! Some users *want* it, some users not. > > > need. The old UNIX adage, "do one thing well" is pretty much a thing of the > > past. > > Who can say 'do all things well' and 'Yes, we did all things well' ? > > > > Regards, > Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > From mackay_d@bellsouth.net Sun Dec 8 23:26:22 2002 From: mackay_d@bellsouth.net (David Mackay) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:26:22 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Large TextIndexNG problem Message-ID: <3DF3D51E.6070902@bellsouth.net> I am having a problem creating an index for about 276,000 documents. I successfully created a TextIndexNG index for the documents by indexing 50,000 at a time. If I tried to do everything at one time, it would work for about six or seven hours, and then return with zer0 items indexed. Before I added the indexed items, my database size was about 360MB. Well, I decided that I needed to make a few changes, so I cleared the index. Then I packed the database. However, the database size is now 2023.7M. When I try to repack the database, I get an error message telling me that there have been no changes since the last pack. Also, I can't add any indices. I get a message that the connection was refused when attempting to contact the server. There are no messages in Z2.log indicating that there is a problem, and no tracebacks from python. The environment is: Zope 2.5.1 Python 2.1.3 Linux (Red Hat 8.0) kernel 2.4.18-3 The machine has 768MB of memory and 11GB of free hard drive space. Can anyone give me some pointers? Dave From jens@ZOPE.COM Sun Dec 8 23:46:15 2002 From: jens@ZOPE.COM (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:46:15 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Dumb question: Can Zope be used as a LDAP server? In-Reply-To: <002c01c29f0e$66bdd2b0$86cba218@LUISLAPTOP> Message-ID: <3D87845C-0B07-11D7-ABB8-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> > Sorry, I like a common look and feel. that's a laudable goal by itself > I have been looking at all the available LDAP clients, and they all > have > their pro's and con's ( java, c, perl, python, web based, k or g). > Looking > at LDAP itself, I can't explain why we need it since we have so many > things > like it including Zope (or vice-versa depending on your point of view). that last sentence does not make any sense. who is "we"? you can make such a statement if "we" is limited to yourself, but that statement definitely is not true if "we" is the zope user community as a whole. > I been working on a comprehesive Linux Administration solution that > doesn't > jump you around to 12 different interfaces to get you what you need, > unfortunately, this proves to be almost impossible. Most people write > non-intuitive interfaces (myself included), so I have ended up with a > montley crew of utilities that do - what I consider to be, > comprehensive > Linux administration. stuff like that is already around AFAIK. there's linuxconf and webmin, for example. > Okay, no more complaining. I need only zope to provide minimal > support for > LDAP. I guess that might include LDAP protocol, a port (389), and a > way to > suggest to zope that a directory is really LDAP and that objects are > really > LDAP objects. And that's it. ( I make it sound easier than it is > right? ). yes, you make it easier than it sounds. the big deal is not just opening a port and creating specialized "ldap directory" objects in zope. the big deal is implementing the protocol to talk to ldap clients. jens From tino@wildenhain.de Mon Dec 9 00:15:28 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 01:15:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Can I get the Find tab to work more like grep? In-Reply-To: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <179910798.1039396528@liza> Hi Skip, --On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2002 15:42 -0600 Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Is there a way to get the Find tab to work more like regular grep/egrep, > that is, to display lines matching the search string instead of just the > names of the objects? Alternatively, is there some product or external > method I can install which will accomplish the same goal? You should simply catalog all your Objects into ZCatalog. If you install TextIndexNG, you even have a lot more options then grep would give you. Regards Tino From skip@pobox.com Mon Dec 9 00:36:46 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:36:46 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Can I get the Find tab to work more like grep? In-Reply-To: <179910798.1039396528@liza> References: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> <179910798.1039396528@liza> Message-ID: <15859.58782.556430.378257@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Is there a way to get the Find tab to work more like regular grep/egrep, Tino> You should simply catalog all your Objects into ZCatalog. Thanks. Pretty clunky add/remove interface, but it will do. -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ From skip@pobox.com Mon Dec 9 01:14:13 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:14:13 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Can I get the Find tab to work more like grep? In-Reply-To: <179910798.1039396528@liza> References: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> <179910798.1039396528@liza> Message-ID: <15859.61029.303346.834748@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tino> You should simply catalog all your Objects into ZCatalog. Okay, so I created a ZCatalog. While it seems a bit dated, I was able to fumble around and create a Z Search Interface using the tutorial at http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/ZCatalogTutorial (I found no clues whatsoever in the ZCatalog online Help! that suggested I'd need to create a Z Search Interface.) Unfortunately, after creating the Z Search Interface (named search), it seems all I wind up with is just a faster Find. If I view my search page, it asks me for Id, Path, Title, PrincipiaSearchSource, Meta type and Bobobase modification time. I entered "return" in the PrincipiaSearchSource field and poke the submit button. The page that retured held a table listing 20 object names and various attributes they had. Still no grep-like output, which is what I was looking for. I want to actually see the lines that matched. Is that not possible with a stock Zope 2.5.1? IOW, do I have to coax the server admin to install TextIndexNG? I just want to be able to search my own source code. It seems the easiest thing to do is to ftpmirror the entire site and just use grep. -- Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com http://www.mojam.com/ http://www.musi-cal.com/ From contato@upclick.com.br Mon Dec 9 01:25:40 2002 From: contato@upclick.com.br (UpClick) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 23:25:40 -0200 Subject: [Zope] =?windows-1252?Q?E-marketing_-_P=FAblico_Alvo?= Message-ID: <4189-22002121912540840@uol> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_94915C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8" ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Se a sua empresa j=E1 possui um site na Web, voc=EA deve ter consci=EAncia= =20 que ter um site e disponibiliz=E1-lo na Internet n=E3o =E9 o mais importan= te=2E=20 O MAIS IMPORTANTE =E9 fazer com que os internautas e seu=20 p=FAblico-alvo ACESSEM O SEU SITE=2E=20 Conhe=E7a o UPCLICK e veja oque podemos fazer=20 para seu site decolar na Web ! www=2EUPCLICK=2Ecom=2Ebr=20 Mensagem enviada asempresas associadas da Amcham, contanto, nossa empresa=20= n=E3o possui nenhum v=EDnculo comercial com a Amcham=2E ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Se a sua empresa j=E1 possui um site na Web

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In-Reply-To: <15859.61029.303346.834748@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> <179910798.1039396528@liza> <15859.61029.303346.834748@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1039313360.1100.6.camel@dorothy> Skip, It sort of sounds like you've reached a point where you might benefit from actually writing code on the filesystem (by creating a Zope "Product") instead of continuing to beat yourself up by writing "through the web" code. I'd hate to see you get so fed up with doing things this way that you stop using Zope. - C On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 20:14, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Tino> You should simply catalog all your Objects into ZCatalog. > > Okay, so I created a ZCatalog. While it seems a bit dated, I was able to > fumble around and create a Z Search Interface using the tutorial at > > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/ZCatalogTutorial > > (I found no clues whatsoever in the ZCatalog online Help! that suggested I'd > need to create a Z Search Interface.) > > Unfortunately, after creating the Z Search Interface (named search), it > seems all I wind up with is just a faster Find. If I view my search page, > it asks me for Id, Path, Title, PrincipiaSearchSource, Meta type and > Bobobase modification time. I entered "return" in the PrincipiaSearchSource > field and poke the submit button. The page that retured held a table listing > 20 object names and various attributes they had. Still no grep-like output, > which is what I was looking for. I want to actually see the lines that > matched. Is that not possible with a stock Zope 2.5.1? IOW, do I have to > coax the server admin to install TextIndexNG? > > I just want to be able to search my own source code. It seems the easiest > thing to do is to ftpmirror the entire site and just use grep. > > -- > Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com > http://www.mojam.com/ > http://www.musi-cal.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From skip@pobox.com Mon Dec 9 02:20:21 2002 From: skip@pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:20:21 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Can I get the Find tab to work more like grep? In-Reply-To: <1039313360.1100.6.camel@dorothy> References: <15859.48354.531868.566215@montanaro.dyndns.org> <179910798.1039396528@liza> <15859.61029.303346.834748@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1039313360.1100.6.camel@dorothy> Message-ID: <15859.64997.835642.529354@montanaro.dyndns.org> Chris> It sort of sounds like you've reached a point where you might Chris> benefit from actually writing code on the filesystem (by creating Chris> a Zope "Product") instead of continuing to beat yourself up by Chris> writing "through the web" code. I'd hate to see you get so fed Chris> up with doing things this way that you stop using Zope. >From my experience with Mason, having the ability to just edit my code in the file system is a huge benefit. (For those not familiar with Mason, it provides both through-the-web and local filesystem access to the code.) It's unlikely my client will go for that in this case, but I would sure like to be able to do that for future Zope stuff. For the time being I'll just use ftpmirror.py to keep a local copy I can search through. Skip From Andreas Jung Mon Dec 9 05:35:12 2002 From: Andreas Jung (Andreas Jung) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 06:35:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Large TextIndexNG problem In-Reply-To: <3DF3D51E.6070902@bellsouth.net> References: <3DF3D51E.6070902@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <54965175.1039415712@[192.168.0.3]> The largest installation with TextIndexNG running I have seen was about 70,000 documents large. It ran on a fast Athlon machine with 256 MB. I assume you are running into some kind of memory problem. I suggest to run "top" when you are trying to index the documents. Watch the memory usage of the running Zope process and checkout your swap process. Also you can try to play around with the number of subtransactions uses. I have seen a memory explosion on a solaris system some time ago but never seen such a memory problem under Linux i386. If you have further problems please contact me again. Andreas --On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2002 17:26 -0600 David Mackay wrote: > I am having a problem creating an index for about 276,000 documents. I > successfully created a TextIndexNG index for the documents by indexing > 50,000 at a time. If I tried to do everything at one time, it would work > for about six or seven hours, and then return with zer0 items indexed. > Before I added the indexed items, my database size was about 360MB. > Well, I decided that I needed to make a few changes, so I cleared the > index. Then I packed the database. However, the database size is now > 2023.7M. When I try to repack the database, I get an error message > telling me that there have been no changes since the last pack. Also, I > can't add any indices. I get a message that the connection was refused > when attempting to contact the server. There are no messages in Z2.log > indicating that there is a problem, and no tracebacks from python. The > environment is: Zope 2.5.1 > Python 2.1.3 > Linux (Red Hat 8.0) kernel 2.4.18-3 > The machine has 768MB of memory and 11GB of free hard drive space. > > Can anyone give me some pointers? > > Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From hancock@anansispaceworks.com Mon Dec 9 05:34:15 2002 From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 21:34:15 -0800 Subject: [Zope] type(sql_search())? Message-ID: Can anybody tell me what this mysterious "results object" thing actually is? I'm working from within a Zope product, and defining an SQL() method (same as "ZSQLMethod" created within the ZMI). I then call the method and get a "list of results". Okay, that's a list, but what are its elements? Aren't they "class instances"? Why don't they have a __dict__? What *is* this beast, and why isn't it something simple? I was actually trying to forgo the ridiculously cumbersome path of defining a "pluggable brain" with module and class name and passing it to the "advanced management" interface of my ZSQLMethod -- i.e. pretending I'm doing everything through the web. It seems like that really ought not to be necessary in product code. You ought to be able to just slap the wrapper on right in the code, without setting up all that boilerplate, e.g.: class my_wrapper: def __init__(self, sqlres): self.__dict__.update(sqlres.__dict__) my_form = DTMLFile('www/my_form', globals()) def some_method(self, foo): return self.sql_stuff + foo wrapped_results = [my_wrapper(r) for r in sql_search()] However, that "sqlres.__dict__" chokes, because, mysteriously, sqlres doesn't have one. I've had a look at RDB.py, and it sure looks like it ought to have __dict__, but experimentation says no. I thought I'd just run type() on it, and see what Python thinks it is, but that brings up another pet peeve about Zope: Why doesn't type() work correctly in Zope? Or rather, why doesn't it have a repr()? Running debugging code like: raise ValueError("My type is %s!" % repr(type(buggy_object))) returns a Zope traceback page which says: Error Type: ValueError Error Value: My type is! >From the Python command line, of course, this will tell me what the type of the object is, such as: >>> raise ValueError("%s" % type(a)) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? ValueError: but not in Zope. Any help would be much appreciated! Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com "Python takes the pain out of programming ... ... and Zope puts it back again." From chrism@zope.com Sun Dec 8 06:39:40 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 08 Dec 2002 01:39:40 -0500 Subject: [Zope] type(sql_search())? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039329581.1100.45.camel@dorothy> It's likely an instance of a "record" object (as defined in lib/Components/ExtensionClass/src/Record.c). I believe the idea for it not having a __dict__ (snicker) was that there can be many, many of these generated for a single SQL query and thus it saved memory at some point in time. I'm not sure how true that is now. It may still be eminently so. They don't have a __dict__ but they are enumerable. Something like this might work (or something along these lines, I have not tested it): class my_wrapper: def __init__(self, sqlres): d = {} for k in sqlres.__record_schema__.keys(): d[k] = getattr(sqlres, k) self.__dict__.update(d) my_form = DTMLFile('www/my_form', globals()) def some_method(self, foo): return self.sql_stuff + foo wrapped_results = [my_wrapper(r) for r in sql_search()] In any case, I'm not sure what you mean about type() not working against them. I can see their type fine including class and module name if I instantiate one from a Python prompt (to do so is a bit cumbersome because it means you must give it a __record_schema__ attribute, typically just for test purposes an empty dictionary, but it does work). If you mean that you can't see their type from a Python Script or DTML or somewhere, the type builtin is not accessible due to security constraints (this is a FAQ). If you mean that this is from "trusted" code like a Product, and its repr just doesn't render in your browser, it's because you're viewing the rendering of the error as an HTML page, the repr is between pointy brackets, and your browser just won't show it to you because it thinks it's part of the HTML. View the source of the page instead, or use Zope 2.6 and learn to use the error_log feature. - C On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 00:34, Terry Hancock wrote: > Can anybody tell me what this mysterious "results object" thing actually is? > > I'm working from within a Zope product, and defining an SQL() method > (same as "ZSQLMethod" created within the ZMI). I then call the method > and get a "list of results". Okay, that's a list, but what are its elements? > > Aren't they "class instances"? Why don't they have a __dict__? What *is* > this beast, and why isn't it something simple? > > I was actually trying to forgo the ridiculously cumbersome path of defining > a "pluggable brain" with module and class name and passing it to the > "advanced management" interface of my ZSQLMethod -- i.e. pretending I'm doing > everything through the web. It seems like that really ought not to be > necessary in product code. You ought to be able to just slap the wrapper on > right in the code, without setting up all that boilerplate, e.g.: > > class my_wrapper: > def __init__(self, sqlres): > self.__dict__.update(sqlres.__dict__) > my_form = DTMLFile('www/my_form', globals()) > > def some_method(self, foo): > return self.sql_stuff + foo > > wrapped_results = [my_wrapper(r) for r in sql_search()] > > However, that "sqlres.__dict__" chokes, because, mysteriously, sqlres doesn't > have one. I've had a look at RDB.py, and it sure looks like it ought to have > __dict__, but experimentation says no. > > I thought I'd just run type() on it, and see what Python thinks it is, but > that brings up another pet peeve about Zope: Why doesn't type() work > correctly in Zope? Or rather, why doesn't it have a repr()? Running > debugging code like: > > raise ValueError("My type is %s!" % repr(type(buggy_object))) > > returns a Zope traceback page which says: > Error Type: ValueError > Error Value: My type is! > > >From the Python command line, of course, this will tell me what the type of > the object is, such as: > > >>> raise ValueError("%s" % type(a)) > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in ? > ValueError: > > but not in Zope. > > Any help would be much appreciated! > Terry > > -- > Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) > Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com > > "Python takes the pain out of programming ... > ... and Zope puts it back again." > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From tino@wildenhain.de Mon Dec 9 07:01:51 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:01:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] type(sql_search())? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <204294680.1039420911@liza> Hi Hancock, --On Sonntag, 8. Dezember 2002 21:34 -0800 Terry Hancock wrote: > Can anybody tell me what this mysterious "results object" thing actually > is? > > I'm working from within a Zope product, and defining an SQL() method > (same as "ZSQLMethod" created within the ZMI). I then call the method > and get a "list of results". Okay, that's a list, but what are its > elements? > > Aren't they "class instances"? Why don't they have a __dict__? What *is* > this beast, and why isn't it something simple? > > I was actually trying to forgo the ridiculously cumbersome path of > defining a "pluggable brain" with module and class name and passing it to > the "advanced management" interface of my ZSQLMethod -- i.e. pretending > I'm doing everything through the web. It seems like that really ought > not to be necessary in product code. You ought to be able to just slap > the wrapper on right in the code, without setting up all that > boilerplate, e.g.: > from Shared.DC.ZRDB.Results.py: 67 class r(Record, Implicit, brains, zbrains): 68 'Result record class' 69 70 r.__record_schema__=schema 71 for k in Record.__dict__.keys(): 72 if k[:2]=='__': 73 setattr(r,k,getattr(Record,k)) 74 75 # Add SQL Aliases 76 d=r.__dict__ 77 for k, v in aliases: 78 if not hasattr(r,k): d[k]=v 79 80 if hasattr(brains, '__init__'): 81 binit=brains.__init__ 82 if hasattr(binit,'im_func'): binit=binit.im_func 83 def __init__(self, data, parent, binit=binit): 84 Record.__init__(self,data) 85 if parent is not None: self=self.__of__(parent) 86 binit(self) 87 88 r.__dict__['__init__']=__init__ 89 90 self._class=r This result set class is just an inner class definition in a list alike class for the results. Adding a column could be a little bit harder since the column name is stored elsewhere. You should look in the definition of Record and brains to find an interface for this. Regards Tino From tillea@rki.de Mon Dec 9 08:07:45 2002 From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:07:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <1039186337.1447.10.camel@james> Message-ID: On 6 Dec 2002, Chris McDonough wrote: > > Alternatively you might use the > > get_zope-book > > Script which I made available some minutes ago at > > Nice! Sorry for not making this easier... No need to sorry. ;-) It was a fun to be perhaps a bit helpful. Feel free to enhance the quick hack I did (especially regarding the StructuredText-Regexp problem perhaps). Kind regards Andreas. From verni0@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 08:55:01 2002 From: verni0@hotmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:55:01 +0200 Subject: [Zope] 'OFS/dtml' not needed Message-ID: Hi, I have a Zope 2.5.1 on a Linux. If I rename the 'dtml' dir in 'OFS', my Zope has no problem working (after restarting or running in debug mode, of course). My problem started when I changed a dtml file in 'OFS/dtml' directory an the changes could not been seen. So this directory is not needed, where are those files keeped, what's happening?! Any ideea?! Thanks in advance, Best regards, Rares From Dmitry Matveev Mon Dec 9 09:12:40 2002 From: Dmitry Matveev (Dmitry Matveev) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:12:40 +0500 Subject: [Zope] read() method Message-ID: <34620464931.20021209141240@uralfirm.ru> Hello! For my way of solution the problem, i have to use the same code in PythonScript, not in External Method: import urllib params = urllib.urlencode({’spam’ : 1, ’eggs’ : 2, ’bacon’: 0}) f = urllib.urlopen( "http://www.musi-cal.com/") print f.read() I can allow the urllib module in /Products/GlobalScripts/__init__.py The problem is how allow the read() method from socket._fileobject class in my PythonScript??? M.b. there is another way to get the page's html-code from any server? -- Best regards, www.uralfirm.ru Dmitry Matveev mailto:matveev@uralfirm.ru From PieterB Mon Dec 9 09:20:50 2002 From: PieterB (PieterB) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:20:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] Large TextIndexNG problem (fwd) Message-ID: <20021209092050.98A832113C@gewis.win.tue.nl> > I am having a problem creating an index for about 276,000 documents. I > successfully created a TextIndexNG index for the documents by indexing > 50,000 at a time. > [snip] > However, the database > size is now 2023.7M. Are you sure your Python has large file support (>2Gb). Check out: http://zope.org/Members/beacon/install_instructions To check if the Python version your using has large file support enabled, start the intepreter and open a file [ f=open('temp', 'w') ] and call [ f.tell() ] it should return a long [ 0L ] if LFS i enabled. (otherwise it returns an integer [ 0 ]) Search for "LFS" or "Large file support" to get more info how to fix it. PieterB ----- End of forwarded message from PieterB ----- From verni0@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 12:15:48 2002 From: verni0@hotmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:15:48 +0200 Subject: [Zope] What dos the second parameter of manage_addPropertySheet means? Message-ID: I found this: manage_addPropertySheet(id, ns) What does 'ns' means?! Thanks in advance, Rares From elena.schulz@gmx.net Mon Dec 9 12:21:44 2002 From: elena.schulz@gmx.net (Elena Schulz) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:21:44 +0100 Subject: [Zope] reference to a DTML Document in a script called by this Document Message-ID: <002401c29f7d$9cf7a940$fe78a8c0@PCA> Hi, context in a script called from a DTML-Method refers to the containing folder as expected. But context in a script called from a DTML-Document refers also to the containing folder!? Shouldn'd that be the Document itself? Even if I call the script like myscript(this()) in a DTML-Document I cannot get the reference to this DTML-Document. So how do I get reference to a DTML- or ZPT Document in script called from that Document ? -- many thanks for your replies, Elena From lennart@regebro.nu Mon Dec 9 12:40:43 2002 From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:40:43 +0100 Subject: [Zope] What dos the second parameter of manage_addPropertySheet means? References: Message-ID: <008601c29f80$339b20f0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Rares Vernica" > manage_addPropertySheet(id, ns) > What does 'ns' means?! Namespace. Although I'm not 100% sure what it actually does at the moment. :-) You don't need it for normal use, though. From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Mon Dec 9 13:43:54 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:43:54 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: 'OFS/dtml' not needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rares Vernica wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Zope 2.5.1 on a Linux. > If I rename the 'dtml' dir in 'OFS', my Zope has no problem working (after > restarting or running in debug mode, of course). I don't believe this for a "fresh" Zope. I think you have installed a Product (like ExternalEditor, AbracadabraObject, OrderedObjectManager...) which monkey-patches the main.dtml for example. > My problem started when I changed a dtml file in 'OFS/dtml' directory an the > changes could not been seen. Maybe you should start with a fresh ZOPE-installation, try your modicifations it and then identify step by step the Product which does the monkey-patch. -mj From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Mon Dec 9 13:49:01 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:49:01 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: read() method In-Reply-To: <34620464931.20021209141240@uralfirm.ru> References: <34620464931.20021209141240@uralfirm.ru> Message-ID: Dmitry Matveev wrote: > Hello! > For my way of solution the problem, i have to use the > same code in PythonScript, not in External Method: > > import urllib > params = urllib.urlencode({’spam’ : 1, ’eggs’ : 2, ’bacon’: 0}) > f = urllib.urlopen( "http://www.musi-cal.com/") > print f.read() > > The problem is how allow the read() method from socket._fileobject > class in my PythonScript??? Can you explain why do you need the code in a PythonScript and not in an ExternalMethod? That's why ExternalMethods are invented for. Maybe you should write a kind of wrapper in an ExternalMethod which do you call with some args from your PythonScripts. -mj From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 9 13:48:54 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 14:48:54 +0100 Subject: [Zope] What dos the second parameter of manage_addPropertySheet means? In-Reply-To: <008601c29f80$339b20f0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> References: Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209144124.0244a250@prue.torped.se> At 13:40 2002-12-09 +0100, Lennart Regebro said: >From: "Rares Vernica" > > manage_addPropertySheet(id, ns) > > What does 'ns' means?! > >Namespace. Although I'm not 100% sure what it actually does at the moment. >:-) >You don't need it for normal use, though. Correct. It's the xml_namespace of the propertysheet. For example the webdav propertysheet (usually hidden from mortal users ;-) has the name space {'xmlns': 'DAV:'}, it would be the equivalent to pass ns=3D'DAV:' to manage_addPropertySheet. I don't know what it's use for or if it's used at all except from WebDAV (if even that, can't find any code that call xml_namespace on= propertysheets). Regards, Johan Carlsson Tips. Read the source, Luck ;-) --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From brian@zope.com Mon Dec 9 14:24:39 2002 From: brian@zope.com (Brian Lloyd) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:24:39 -0500 Subject: [Zope] What dos the second parameter of manage_addPropertySheet means? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209144124.0244a250@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: > >From: "Rares Vernica" > > > manage_addPropertySheet(id, ns) > > > What does 'ns' means?! > > > >Namespace. Although I'm not 100% sure what it actually does at > the moment. > >:-) > >You don't need it for normal use, though. > > Correct. > It's the xml_namespace of the propertysheet. > > For example the webdav propertysheet (usually hidden from mortal users ;-) > has the name space {'xmlns': 'DAV:'}, it would be the equivalent to pass > ns='DAV:' to manage_addPropertySheet. > > I don't know what it's use for or if it's used at all except from WebDAV > (if even that, can't find any code that call xml_namespace on > propertysheets). It is mostly for the benefit of DAV tools, which may set arbitrary namespace-based properties on resources. In practice, relatively few DAV-aware tools do this though. :( Brian Lloyd brian@zope.com V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 9 14:37:29 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:37:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] What dos the second parameter of manage_addPropertySheet means? In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209144124.0244a250@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209153523.00a60d10@prue.torped.se> At 09:24 2002-12-09 -0500, Brian Lloyd said: >It is mostly for the benefit of DAV tools, which may set arbitrary >namespace-based properties on resources. In practice, relatively >few DAV-aware tools do this though. :( I know. It's a shame. I can't find the property setter method. Which one is used? _updateProperty, manage_editProperties, manage_changeProperties? The call is probably implemented some where else I guess? Regards, Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From mackay_d@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 9 14:58:45 2002 From: mackay_d@bellsouth.net (David Mackay) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:58:45 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Large TextIndexNG Problem Message-ID: <3DF4AFA5.8090106@bellsouth.net> > The largest installation with TextIndexNG running I have seen was about > 70,000 documents large. It ran on a fast Athlon machine with 256 MB. > I assume you are running into some kind of memory problem. I suggest > to run "top" when you are trying to index the documents. Watch > the memory usage of the running Zope process and checkout your swap > process. Also you can try to play around with the number of subtransactions > uses. I have seen a memory explosion on a solaris system some > time ago but never seen such a memory problem under Linux i386. > > If you have further problems please contact me again. Thanks. I seem to have managed to scramble the database. I don't think that the python that I have loaded supports large files, so I probably exceeded the limit during the pack operation. I loaded a new zope instance, and imported components from the old instance. I've set the indexing script to commit the transaction every 20,000 documents, and that seems to have helped a lot. You were right about the memory. That was WHY we have 768MB on the machine. Dave From cschm@gmx.de Mon Dec 9 14:58:28 2002 From: cschm@gmx.de (Christoph Schmitz) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:58:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders Message-ID: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> Hi, I need to store many large objects (30+MB video files) in a way that=20 Zope can serve them; plus, these files should be distributed over a=20 large folder tree /mytree/... in my Zope system.=20 We've considered the following options: - use LocalFS; the problem is that I'd like to avoid having a LocalFS=20 object in every folder of /mytree/..., and I neither want to put all=20 the files into one filesystem directory; so I'd need some solution=20 that automatically maintains the logical structure of /mytree/... in=20 the filesystem directory. - use BLOBs on a RDBMS; unfortunately, I couldn't get the DBMS=20 connection we are using (DB2 via SQLRelay) to work correctly with=20 BLOBs; I've considered=20 http://www.zope.org/Members/peterb/oracle_lobs, but without success. Are there any viable alternatives apart from these two? What do other=20 people use when they have to maintain large numbers of large objects? Thanks in advance, Christoph --=20 -- Christoph Schmitz From working4aliving@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 14:59:34 2002 From: working4aliving@hotmail.com (working4aliving) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:59:34 -0500 Subject: [Zope] OT: International Friends.(Keyboard question) Message-ID: Hello, in the states, we (typically) use the qwerty keyboard. Is that the case in the rest of the world? Please email me direct (don't waste the list's time) Thank you all. From mackay_d@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 9 15:11:40 2002 From: mackay_d@bellsouth.net (David Mackay) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:11:40 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Large TextIndexNG problem References: <20021209092026.6C86B21134@gewis.win.tue.nl> Message-ID: <3DF4B2AC.6030708@bellsouth.net> PieterB wrote: >>I am having a problem creating an index for about 276,000 documents. I >>successfully created a TextIndexNG index for the documents by indexing >>50,000 at a time. >>[snip] > > >>However, the database >>size is now 2023.7M. > > Are you sure your Python has large file support (>2Gb). > Check out: > http://zope.org/Members/beacon/install_instructions > > To check if the Python version your using has large file support > enabled, start the intepreter and open a file [ f=open('temp', 'w') ] > and call [ f.tell() ] it should return a long [ 0L ] if LFS i enabled. > (otherwise it returns an integer [ 0 ]) > > Search for "LFS" or "Large file support" to get more info how to fix it. Thanks. I got an integer, so that's the problem. Dave From bkc@murkworks.com Mon Dec 9 15:25:42 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:25:42 -0500 Subject: [Zope] cPickle.UnpicklingError on invalid load key Message-ID: <3DF46E33.31250.19BA40B4@localhost> I see Chris had an issue with this before, with ZCatalog, but I'm not using ZCatalog. My system was fine last week. Over the weekend I rebooted the machine (RH 8.0) and now, one of my top level folders (and all it's children) give this error when I try to "view" instances of this ZClass based object under this folder. Details: Zope 2.5.1 with custom_zodb loading from ZEO (couldn't find the ZEO version, but ZEO.StorageServer is 1.28.2.5 I have a "Rendered STX" Zclass based on ZObject, ZDTMLMethod, _ZClass_for_Renderable Instances of this class work fine everywhere in the tree, except for those under /Research in /Research and children of /Research, they do not work. If I copy the instances of this class into another folder (ie. /test) they suddenly start working again. I made a backup of Data.fs, then did a pack, then restarted Zope 2.5.1, but the problem remains. gzip'd Data.fs is 25 megabytes 2 levels below /Research there is a MountedStorage instance "PythonCE". --- Attempts to fix -- I created a new top level folder /nResearch and copied the children of /Research into /nResearch Now, everything under /nResearch seems to work.. Except for the MountedStorage. I wasn't sure if the copy process would copy the Mount, or copy child objects of the mount. so in /nResearch/ ... I deleted the PythonCE folder and recreated the Mount. However, now when I try to "view" children of the mounted PythonCE under /nResearch, I get an UnpicklingError. I'll post the original exception traceback below. At this point, I am going to move to try to move to Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2, though I suspect my ZODB is corrupted. -- Aha Seems that /Images/PanellImages is corrupted and can't be loaded in ZMI. So this appears to be the actual corruption location. And now /Research/.. PythonCE (the mount) is broken and I get > The object at > http://marimba.murkworks.com:8080/Main/Research/Python/PythonCE/PythonC > EWiki/FrontPage has an empty or missing docstring. Objects must have a > docstring to be published. Argh.. going to find the backup tape.. -- Original traceback Site Error An error was encountered while publishing this resource. Error Type: TALESError Error Value: cPickle.UnpicklingError on invalid load key, ''. in '', at line 155, column 21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Troubleshooting Suggestions The URL may be incorrect. The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect. A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error. For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML source for this page. If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your patience. Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in publish File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 159, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Overview) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 98, in publish File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88, in mapply (Object: index_html) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 39, in call_object (Object: index_html) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 127, in __call__ (Object: index_html) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in __call__ (Object: index_html) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Return.py, line 31, in render (Object: render) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 266, in __render_with_namespace__ (Object: render) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: render) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/PythonScript.py, line 302, in _exec (Object: render) (Info: ({'script': , 'context': , 'container': , 'traverse_subpath': []}, (), {}, None)) File Script (Python), line 3, in render File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 252, in __call__ (Object: DisplaySTD) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: DisplaySTD) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/ZopePageTemplate.py, line 210, in _exec (Object: DisplaySTD) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/PageTemplate.py, line 86, in pt_render (Object: DisplaySTD) (Info: {'container': , 'here': , 'modules': , 'nothing': None, 'options': {'args': ()}, 'request':

form

cookies

, 'template': , 'traverse_subpath': [], 'user': Anonymous User}) File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 158, in __call__ File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 523, in do_useMacro File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 476, in do_loop_tal File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 345, in do_optTag_tal File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 330, in do_optTag File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 325, in no_tag File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 491, in do_condition File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 432, in do_insertStructure_tal File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/TALES.py, line 247, in evaluate File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/ZRPythonExpr.py, line 49, in __call__ (Info: dtimage.image.tag()) File Python expression "dtimage.image.tag()", line 2, in f File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/AccessControl/ZopeGuards.py, line 47, in guarded_getattr File /usr/local/Zope/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 472, in setstate TALESError: (see above) Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From brian@zope.com Mon Dec 9 15:24:45 2002 From: brian@zope.com (Brian Lloyd) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:24:45 -0500 Subject: [Zope] What dos the second parameter of manage_addPropertySheet means? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209153523.00a60d10@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: > >It is mostly for the benefit of DAV tools, which may set arbitrary > >namespace-based properties on resources. In practice, relatively > >few DAV-aware tools do this though. :( > > I know. It's a shame. > > I can't find the property setter method. > Which one is used? > > _updateProperty, manage_editProperties, manage_changeProperties? > > The call is probably implemented some where else I guess? > > Regards, > Johan Carlsson The web-scriptable wrappers (manage_*) are defined in OFS.PropertyManager. The docstrings describe the usage. Generally you will want to use manage_changeProperties. Brian Lloyd brian@zope.com V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com From bkc@murkworks.com Mon Dec 9 15:49:10 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:49:10 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: cPickle.UnpicklingError on invalid load key Message-ID: <3DF473B2.25248.19CFBC7D@localhost> Fixed. After upgrading to ZEO 2.0, zope reported an invalid cache entry during startup. Seems my ZEO cache was corrupted. duh Good thing, since I also discovered that Amanda has been skipping this volume so I have no backups. Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From m.federighi@ee.ucl.ac.uk Mon Dec 9 16:22:33 2002 From: m.federighi@ee.ucl.ac.uk (Marco Federighi) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:22:33 -0000 Subject: [Zope] Zope and Python Message-ID: <00b201c29f9f$2ddb5300$a74a2880@faceng.ucl.ac.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C29F9F.2DB22020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I have a problem: I installed Zope 2.6.0 on Windows 2000. According to the Readme file, it = comes with Python 2.1. I have tried to install win32all support which I need to use CMFTypes. = The problem is, these haven't installed on the python which comes with = Zope. My questions are: 1. Any way to install those w32 drivers into the python that comes with = Zope? 2. if not, should I reinstall python and Zope separately? What is the = best way of sorting this, without losing the website I have? Many thanks Marco ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C29F9F.2DB22020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all. I have a problem:

I installed Zope 2.6.0 on Windows 2000. = According=20 to the Readme file, it comes with Python 2.1.

I have tried to install win32all = support which I=20 need to use CMFTypes. The problem is, these haven't installed on the = python=20 which comes with Zope.

My questions are:

1. Any way to install those w32 drivers = into the=20 python that comes with Zope?

2. if not, should I reinstall python = and Zope=20 separately? What is the best way of sorting this, without losing the = website I=20 have?

Many thanks

Marco

------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01C29F9F.2DB22020-- From l.pitschl@peer.biz Mon Dec 9 16:27:34 2002 From: l.pitschl@peer.biz (Lukas Pitschl) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:27:34 +0100 Subject: [Zope] manage_addDocument Message-ID: <3DF4C476.F7F8150@peer.biz> --------------------------- def addDocsToFolder --------------------------- def addDocsToFolder( theFolder, theDocs): """ add the given docs to the given folder """ errs = StringIO.StringIO() for key in theDocs.keys(): id=key dtml,title=theDocs[key] try: thedtml=open(dtml.raw).read() except: raise RuntimeError, "Can't find " + dtml.raw try: theFolder.manage_addDocument(id, title=title, file=thedtml) except: traceback.print_exc(file = errs) errs.seek(0) return errs.read() -------------------------- admin_dtml -------------------------- I just wanted to know if someone knows why the code of addDocsToFolder doesn't work, if admin_dtml looks like this admin_dtml = { 'header' : (getHTML('dtml/header'), "Standard Header"), 'footer' : (getHTML('dtml/footer'), "Standard Footer"), 'index_html' : (getHTML('dtml/updateArchiveForm'), "Shows form to update the image db"), } thanks in advance lukas -- ============================== > lukas pitschl > web development > > peer internet solutions > http://www.peer.biz > pillhof 25 - 39010 frangart > tel. +39/0471 63 10 80 > fax +39/0471 63 17 24 From mikhail@freehand.ru Mon Dec 9 16:18:45 2002 From: mikhail@freehand.ru (Mikhail) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 19:18:45 +0300 Subject: [Zope] Page Template Dynaics Message-ID: Hello all. Zope Book have example (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/AdvZPT.stx):

Replaced with a dynamically determined macro, which is located by the getMacro script.

Can you explain this example and show simple script? """ return 'path/to/zpt/macros/some' """ don't work. -- Mikhail 'Xen' Kashkin From evan@4-am.com Mon Dec 9 16:57:56 2002 From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:57:56 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Re: Page Template Dynaics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF4CB94.9090707@4-am.com> Mikhail wrote: >

> > Can you explain this example and show simple script? > """ > return 'path/to/zpt/macros/some' > """ > don't work. "getMacro" cannot return a string -- it must return the actual macro object. One way to accomplish this is to use the "restrictedTraverse" method on your path string, like so: return context.restrictedTraverse('path/to/library.zpt/macros/some') Slightly more efficient, if your path is static, would be the following: return context.path.to['library.zpt'].macros.some On the other hand, you *could* return a path string, if you change your use-macro to:

Cheers, Evan @ 4-am From myzope@gmx.net Mon Dec 9 16:53:56 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:53:56 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> Message-ID: <3DF4CAA4.1000209@gmx.net> Christoph Schmitz wrote: > Hi, > > I need to store many large objects (30+MB video files) in a way that > Zope can serve them; plus, these files should be distributed over a > large folder tree /mytree/... in my Zope system. I really wouldn't do this. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but serving such big files blocks one of only 4 (per-default) of zopes worker threads. This means that 4 concurrent downloads make it impossible for someone else to get to your server, because there are no idle threads left to serve. Put them on the filesystem, serve them through an external server and just store the metadata (including the path to the file) in the ZODB. There is a product called mmmanager (or something) which does something similar IIRC like you seem to want. cheers, oliver From mikhail@freehand.ru Mon Dec 9 16:52:28 2002 From: mikhail@freehand.ru (Mikhail) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 19:52:28 +0300 Subject: [Zope] Re: Page Template Dynaics References: <3DF4CB94.9090707@4-am.com> Message-ID: Evan Simpson wrote: > Mikhail wrote: >>

>> >> Can you explain this example and show simple script? >> """ >> return 'path/to/zpt/macros/some' >> """ >> don't work. > > "getMacro" cannot return a string -- it must return the actual macro > object. One way to accomplish this is to use the "restrictedTraverse" > method on your path string, like so: > > return context.restrictedTraverse('path/to/library.zpt/macros/some') > > Slightly more efficient, if your path is static, would be the following: > > return context.path.to['library.zpt'].macros.some > > On the other hand, you *could* return a path string, if you change your > use-macro to: > >

> > Cheers, > > Evan @ 4-am thanks your explanation solve my poblems. -- Mikhail 'Xen' Kashkin (Russia) From lennart@torped.se Mon Dec 9 18:17:20 2002 From: lennart@torped.se (Lennart Regebro) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:17:20 +0100 Subject: [Zope] uniqueValuesFor makes an unexpected evaluation. Message-ID: <002101c29fb1$8ea12b30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> I used the following dtml: This works as expected, that is returning a list of the unique values in the "countries" index. But if I run this from a folder that is a subfolder to a fodler called "countries" then index_html gets called for this folder (which the failes, because the index:_html makes a call to REQUEST and it doens't get one). That makes absolutely no sense, and I can't even see why this would happen. Why does countries gets called when I do "Catalog.uniqeValuesFor('countries')". There are quotation marks around countries, it should be treated like a string. It seems to me that it's called during the interpretation of the DTML, because it seems that uniqueValuesFor isn't being called. Anybody have *any* idea? From jeffrey@cuemedia.com Mon Dec 9 18:38:27 2002 From: jeffrey@cuemedia.com (Jeffrey P Shell) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:38:27 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance In-Reply-To: <46455970.1039263073@liza> Message-ID: <685F4315-0BA5-11D7-BF30-003065D2A224@cuemedia.com> On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 04:11 AM, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > Hi Chris, > > --On Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 21:27 -0500 Chris McDonough > wrote: > >> On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 19:13, Tino Wildenhain wrote: >>> These are exactly the things you shouldn't neither do in DTML >>> nor in ZPT :-) >> >> What do you suggest people use for a templating language for email, >> JavaScript, SQL, etc? I think it's too much to expect them to use >> Python to do this (esp. wrt SQL methods). > > Oh, is it? I'd rather like to write %(name)s %(value)d > then > Recently I read the python-dbi spec and its very nice to see > what you could do with the above form. There are even > standard ways to do multiple querys or function calls. > (Hope I can contribute a product for this as time permits) But SQL Method DTML is very very very very nice. It has a lot of type enforcement/safety measures (ie - autoquoting SQL Strings, ensuring that a 'sqlvar type=float' operation is inserting a float); a lot of *very* nice features for generating 'where' clauses (the sqltest 'optional' flag and the smart ' and ' tags that won't render if an optional 'sqltest' preceding them was not rendered); the 'sqltest multiple' feature is especially nice: If foo is a blank string or empty list, that will render nothing. If foo is a single string, that renders:: where foo = 'bar' But if foo is a list of strings, that will render:: where foo in ('bar', 'baz') Doing that programatically in Python is counterintuitive and awkward (just as it was before the specialized 'dtml-sql___' tags in DTML). For simple queries, doing it in the host programming language is not bad. But for complex queries, it's very awkward to generate SQL. It's almost as bad as generating HTML inside of a programming language - it becomes difficult to maintain. > For E-Mail and Javascript templates I also find it less confusing > if I can use %(var)s form. It's worth noting that there's a little known DTML format that's of this style. Again - when doing simple insertion, %(var)s is not bad. But once anything fancy comes into play - conditional insertion, looping, etc - maintainability goes out the window when staying in the host programming language. When I was evaluating Roundup , I wanted to generate emails that looked as good as the ones generated by Tracker. I had to write lines and lines and lines of Python code to do it in order to replace a subclassed method. There was no template that I could jigger around. (To be fair to Roundup and Tracker both, I think customizing Tracker's email messages is even harder). I wouldn't mind seeing DTML.String re-emerge, which complements the Python formatting string with DTML constructs to handle more advanced templating needs. If you took a lot of the programming-language style tags (dtml-try, dtml-return) out of DTML and normalized the expression system (ie - to use TALES), you'd have a very usable system. The core design concepts of DTML are good, it's just corrupted itself over the years by stepping out of the plain-text templating language domain and straddling the templating/programming language domains. DTML is even used to generate DTML, by using the Extended Python Format String syntax. This is how the 'Z Search Interface' custom reports are generated. > As a general solution for texts one can use "file" which has an edit > tab for several releases of zope now. Then use it like this: > > context.thefile.read() % context.REQUEST.form > > or whatever seems appropriate to get values from. > > E-Mail even gets clearer with the solution since you can easyly > loop and do whatever instead of multiple tags. Life would be so much better if odd tags like could just go away, and instead we had 'SMTP Methods' or something like that - mail specific templates that are bound to a mailhost, with special DTML tags (like the mime tag), similar to SQL Methods. I love the SQL Method specific DTML tags. They make writing dynamic SQL statements so easy, especially when compared to _any_ other system that I've seen. It's a good showcase for DTML's ability to turn into a domain specific templating language. > Regards > Tino From ken@cleveland.lug.net Mon Dec 9 18:43:11 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:43:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Install problems Message-ID: This is on RH 7.2, kernel version 2.4.7-10. Today I downloaded and installed Zope-2.5.0-linux2-x86 and then did as root in /usr/local/bin/Zope ./install -p /var/www/cgi-bin/zope -g root -u root ./start After getting the below output, it just hung. Running ./start a second time, resulted in the same: ------ 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '142008640_1039452975.181482' ------ 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '142008640_1039452975.181482' at /temp_folder ------ 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Mon Dec 9 12:06:26 2002 Hostname: heidegger.mousecar.net Port: 8080 ------ 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Mon Dec 9 12:06:26 2002 Hostname: heidegger.mousecar.net Port: 8021 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/z2.py", line 705, in ? asyncore.loop() File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 200, in loop poll_fun (timeout, map) File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 79, in poll r,w,e = select.select (r,w,e, timeout) KeyboardInterrupt Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/z2.py", line 474, in ? zdaemon.run(sys.argv, os.path.join(CLIENT_HOME, Zpid)) File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/zdaemon/Daemon.py", line 79, in run p,s = os.waitpid(pid, 0) (The "KeyboardInterrupt" above is where I hit ^D to get the prompt back.) What is wrong here? Any recommendations as to how to proceed? tia, ken From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com Mon Dec 9 18:43:16 2002 From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:43:16 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders In-Reply-To: <3DF4CAA4.1000209@gmx.net> References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> <3DF4CAA4.1000209@gmx.net> Message-ID: <200212091843.16865.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> On Monday 09 December 2002 4:53 pm, Oliver Bleutgen wrote: > Christoph Schmitz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need to store many=20 how many is 'many'?=20 > > large objects (30+MB video files) in a way that > > Zope can serve them; plus, these files should be distributed over a > > large folder tree /mytree/... in my Zope system. > > I really wouldn't do this. > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, sure ;-) > but serving > such big files blocks one of only 4 (per-default) of zopes worker threa= ds. > This means that 4 concurrent downloads make it impossible for someone > else to get to your server, No. Worker threads run as fast as they can, and are not constrained by cl= ient=20 connection speed. Wirker threads transfer the response to the medusa thre= ad,=20 which spools the reponse back to the client. It can handle thousands of=20 connections. From pollej@uleth.ca Mon Dec 9 18:44:02 2002 From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:44:02 -0700 Subject: [Zope] createInObjectManager Confusion Message-ID: <3DF4E472.C7C4085D@uleth.ca> I'd like to call createInObjectManager from within a Python script. However, it seems to get completely cantankerous when being called from as such Error Type: TypeError Error Value: argument id was ommitted My code is: instance = container.zIndexItem.createInObjectManager('goTest!', context.REQUEST) Since this code works just fine in a script being called by an actual web page, I presume that context.REQUEST is the problem here. I'm not even sure what that means when the requestor is another script - probably nothing at all. All examples I've ever seen of createInObjectManager involve context.REQUEST as the second parameter, what should I be using instead? Thanks, Ed From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 9 18:52:18 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 09 Dec 2002 13:52:18 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Install problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039459938.1372.61.camel@james> Zope is starting correctly. See http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/InstallingZope.stx for information on how to proceed. If you want Zope to start in the background, remove the "-D" switch from the call to z2.py in the "start" script. - C On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 13:43, ken wrote: > > > > This is on RH 7.2, kernel version 2.4.7-10. Today I downloaded and > installed Zope-2.5.0-linux2-x86 and then did as root in /usr/local/bin/Zope > > ./install -p /var/www/cgi-bin/zope -g root -u root > ./start > > After getting the below output, it just hung. Running ./start a second > time, resulted in the same: > > > ------ > 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: > '142008640_1039452975.181482' > ------ > 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database > '142008640_1039452975.181482' at /temp_folder > ------ > 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Mon Dec 9 > 12:06:26 2002 > Hostname: heidegger.mousecar.net > Port: 8080 > ------ > 2002-12-09T17:06:26 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Mon Dec 9 > 12:06:26 2002 > Hostname: heidegger.mousecar.net > Port: 8021 > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/z2.py", line 705, in ? > asyncore.loop() > File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 200, in > loop > poll_fun (timeout, map) > File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 79, in > poll > r,w,e = select.select (r,w,e, timeout) > KeyboardInterrupt > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/z2.py", line 474, in ? > zdaemon.run(sys.argv, os.path.join(CLIENT_HOME, Zpid)) > File "/usr/local/bin/Zope/lib/python/zdaemon/Daemon.py", line 79, in > run > p,s = os.waitpid(pid, 0) > > > (The "KeyboardInterrupt" above is where I hit ^D to get the prompt > back.) > > What is wrong here? > > Any recommendations as to how to proceed? > > > tia, > ken > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From myroslav@zope.net.ua Mon Dec 9 18:45:32 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:45:32 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD Message-ID: Hi, I'm a bit stuck with finding proper solution. What iterest me right now is comparison of Zope, CMF, Plone perfomance on hardware that pretend to be called server-kind. Does anybody has any experience or benchmark result in comparing Intel Xeon and AMD Athlon MP? Anything? Zope, CMF, Plone ab comparison. Pystones benchmark results? Does anybody know how memory type influences perfomance? And does anybody succeded in binding Zope instances to different processors in 2-processor configurations? We got poor perfomance with P IV and thus I am asking if anybody has better stories regarding hardware. Thanks in advance, m. -- Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua cell: +380 50.3174578 From pw_lists@slinkp.com Mon Dec 9 19:00:19 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:00:19 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders In-Reply-To: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20021209190019.GB19332@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 03:58:28PM +0100, Christoph Schmitz wrote: > Hi, > > I need to store many large objects (30+MB video files) in a way that > Zope can serve them; plus, these files should be distributed over a > large folder tree /mytree/... in my Zope system. > > We've considered the following options: > > - use LocalFS; the problem is that I'd like to avoid having a LocalFS > object in every folder of /mytree/..., and I neither want to put all > the files into one filesystem directory; Not necessary. If /mytree/ *is* a LocalFS, and it's pointed to e.g. $INSTANCE_HOME/mytree/ on the filesystem, then any subdirectories of $INSTANCE_HOME/mytree will map to folderish objects in /mytree. LocalFS does have some annoying limitations, though... e.g. objects in LocalFS cannot store properties. No title, nothing. The current UI makes you think that you can add properties, but you'll quickly discover that they are just discarded. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From ken@cleveland.lug.net Mon Dec 9 19:22:36 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:22:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd recommend *not* going with AMD. See the link in my sig. hth, ken -- AMD crashes? See http://cleveland.lug.net/~ken/amd-problem/. Myroslav Opyr at 20:45 (UTC+0200) on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 said: = Hi, = = I'm a bit stuck with finding proper solution. What iterest me right now is = comparison of Zope, CMF, Plone perfomance on hardware that pretend to be = called server-kind. Does anybody has any experience or benchmark result in = comparing Intel Xeon and AMD Athlon MP? Anything? Zope, CMF, Plone ab = comparison. Pystones benchmark results? Does anybody know how memory type = influences perfomance? = = And does anybody succeded in binding Zope instances to different = processors in 2-processor configurations? = = We got poor perfomance with P IV and thus I am asking if anybody has = better stories regarding hardware. = = Thanks in advance, = = m. = -- = Myroslav Opyr = zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting = e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua = cell: +380 50.3174578 = = = = _______________________________________________ = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** = (Related lists - = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) = From aschmidt@fredericksburg.com Fri Dec 6 23:01:14 2002 From: aschmidt@fredericksburg.com (Allen Schmidt) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:01:14 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> Message-ID: <000501c29fc3$53922140$02000000@swl001> DTML needs to be given the same amount of attention as it always has. For some bizarre reason, DTML makes sense in my head....even complicated logic... "Doctor! Do I need help?" It's one of the reasons I really liked Zope three years ago when starting with it.... The tag structure just made sense and was similar to a tool I used to get database calls and logic on a web page... "Long live DTML!!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris McDonough" To: "Tino Wildenhain" Cc: ; Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Book call for assistance > > erm... would "advanced DTML" not be the short sentence: > > "avoid DTML where you can"? ;) > > That'd be ok, except that DTML can of course do things that ZPT can't, > yada yada yada. > > > Btw. did you think of putting the whole DTML stuff at the end for > > reference only to help migrating old products and turn the > > whole thing a bit around so beginners get a clear path of > > Zope development? I found it a bit confusing when I edited > > the german translation of the 2.3 book a year ago. > > That's probably a good idea. But I think the rewritten chapters explain > when to use ZPT and when to use DTML. And DTML still needs to be given > some attention for the reason I say above... > > - C > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From zope@digital-adventures.nl Mon Dec 9 20:49:17 2002 From: zope@digital-adventures.nl (Martin Koekenberg) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:49:17 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Webtrends (or something like that) and Zope 2.6 Message-ID: Hallo, Is it possible to use webtrends with zope. I want to have some statistics from the websites that i host in Zope 2.6. Does annybody have an idea how to fix this ? Martin Koekenberg From zope@digital-adventures.nl Mon Dec 9 20:52:37 2002 From: zope@digital-adventures.nl (Martin Koekenberg) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:52:37 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & Aache 2.4 on RedHat 8 Message-ID: Hello I'm trying to get Zope And Apache 2.4 working on RedHat 8.0. I try to use the rewrite module but this still without succes. Who can Help me. Martin Koekenberg From ffaure@bigfoot.com Mon Dec 9 20:50:22 2002 From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:50:22 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Best practices to write business apps? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021209214638.00a79d90@mail.club-internet.fr> Hi, I'm back to playing with Zope, except this time I need it as a tool to rewrite business apps (payroll, in this case.) I've read the New Riders book along wit the online Zope Book. I understand that DTML is evil and that new users should prefer ZPT. Anyway, is there a good document for newbies that come from procedural languages like VB that would show them how to get up to speed? I need to understand how to separate logic and presentation as cleanly as possible. I'm actually still wondering which framework to use (Midgard, Enhydra, etc.) Thx Fred. From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 9 21:00:54 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 09 Dec 2002 16:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & Aache 2.4 on RedHat 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039467654.1372.88.camel@james> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/VirtualHosting.stx On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 15:52, Martin Koekenberg wrote: > Hello > > I'm trying to get Zope And Apache 2.4 working on RedHat 8.0. > I try to use the rewrite module but this still without succes. > > Who can Help me. > > > Martin Koekenberg > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From abmanock@earthlink.net Mon Dec 9 21:11:28 2002 From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock) Date: 09 Dec 2002 16:11:28 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question In-Reply-To: <200212072004.gB7K4A4Q002007@dick.jymis.com> References: <200212072004.gB7K4A4Q002007@dick.jymis.com> Message-ID: <1039468289.14017.18.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> No shortcuts that I am aware of.... Chances are, after you've thoroughly analyzed your data set, created your DB schema from your nice pretty ER diagram, properly abstracted your presentation logic into nice shiny ZPTs, crafted your SQL methods, and applied the appropriate python "smart glue".... You'll be done with the porting (rewrite) of your app ;-) Adam (Plan to throw one away, 'cause you will anyway :-) On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 15:00, Michael wrote: > Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB > application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using one or > the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any pointers would > be appreciated. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From myroslav@zope.net.ua Mon Dec 9 21:59:48 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 23:59:48 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF51254.6090100@zope.net.ua> ken wrote: >I'd recommend *not* going with AMD. See the link in my sig. > =20 > I've read that information. Ok, I understand your frustration but: 1) Server do not have AGP card installed (and cares not about GUI) 2) Server MB is usually built on chipset better then VIA (probably=20 AMD-760 MP) 3) Server can avoid running Linux (FreeBSD can do the job). Is there any flat statistics? Server running AMD processor hanged each=20 week, Server running dual-AMD Athlon MP processor showed -325 pystones=20 compared to 5468 pystones on Intel Celeron. Again I am not for not=20 against AMD or Intel, I'm interested in numbers... m. --=20 Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua =B0 Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua From dieter@handshake.de Mon Dec 9 21:46:33 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:46:33 +0100 Subject: [Zope] 'OFS/dtml' not needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15861.3897.288162.490609@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Rares Vernica writes: > I have a Zope 2.5.1 on a Linux. > If I rename the 'dtml' dir in 'OFS', my Zope has no problem working (after > restarting or running in debug mode, of course). > My problem started when I changed a dtml file in 'OFS/dtml' directory an the > changes could not been seen. > So this directory is not needed, where are those files keeped, what's > happening?! > Any ideea?! They are loaded and installed as class variables when Zope is loaded. When, later, Zope is unable to find them, it uses "0" as last modification time which means they appear up-to-date. Only, when you restart, Zope will seriously miss them. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Mon Dec 9 21:53:28 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:53:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] reference to a DTML Document in a script called by this Document In-Reply-To: <002401c29f7d$9cf7a940$fe78a8c0@PCA> References: <002401c29f7d$9cf7a940$fe78a8c0@PCA> Message-ID: <15861.4312.252213.778104@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Elena Schulz writes: > context in a script called from a DTML-Method refers to the containing > folder as expected. But context in a script called from a DTML-Document > refers also to the containing folder!? Shouldn'd that be the Document > itself? Only, when you access the script via the document, e.g. in the form "doc.script". DTML Document tries to avoid acquisition through the document object (it succeeds partially). In your case, it was successful. > Even if I call the script like myscript(this()) in a DTML-Document I cannot > get the reference to this DTML-Document. So how do I get reference to a > DTML- or ZPT Document in script called from that Document ? The easiest and safest method is to pass it explicitly. Inside the DTML Document (say "doc"), you do not have the fully acqisition wrapped object but only "doc.aq_explicit". Therefore, access to your script by way of "this()" may fail. If it would succeed, "this().script" would be the right way to go. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Mon Dec 9 21:55:14 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:55:14 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders In-Reply-To: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> Message-ID: <15861.4418.361022.376908@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Christoph Schmitz writes: > I need to store many large objects (30+MB video files) in a way that > Zope can serve them; plus, these files should be distributed over a > large folder tree /mytree/... in my Zope system. > > We've considered the following options: > > - use LocalFS; the problem is that I'd like to avoid having a LocalFS > object in every folder of /mytree/..., and I neither want to put all > the files into one filesystem directory; so I'd need some solution > that automatically maintains the logical structure of /mytree/... in > the filesystem directory. > > - use BLOBs on a RDBMS; unfortunately, I couldn't get the DBMS > connection we are using (DB2 via SQLRelay) to work correctly with > BLOBs; I've considered > http://www.zope.org/Members/peterb/oracle_lobs, but without success. You may look for "ExtFile", maybe with a streaming "index_html" (i.e. you use "RESPONSE.write"). However, I would follow the advice of others and see, whether you cannot serve these objects directly from the file system. Dieter From paul@slinkp.com Mon Dec 9 22:12:44 2002 From: paul@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:12:44 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders In-Reply-To: <200212092204.12387.cschm@gmx.de> References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> <20021209190019.GB19332@slinkp.com> <200212092204.12387.cschm@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20021209221244.GA8190@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:04:12PM +0100, Christoph Schmitz wrote: > Hi Paul, > > thanks for your advice; the problem with your suggestion is that > /mytree is already populated with "real" zope objects, and I'd need > something like a "handle" to a filesystem that is a first class zope > citizen, but serves fs content when referenced. If you want to put individual "files" in /mytree, and /mytree is already a zope Folder, just add an ExtFile for each file. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From jo@meder.de Mon Dec 9 22:17:16 2002 From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:17:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021209221716.GG26796@meder.de> Am 09.12.2002, 20:22 Uhr schryb ken : > I'd recommend *not* going with AMD. See the link in my sig. Can't go along with you there. We have a number of AMD Servers and they never had any problems. The only one to ever fail had a P3 CPU. IMHO nobody runs a server with an AGP card and you usually opt for more reliable chipsets than VIA. You can't blame AMD for systems built from substandard/cheap components. Sure, you're frustrated by your workstation and I'd be the same if I had experienced this amount of problems, but servers are something else entirely. Jo. -- Internetmanufaktur Jo Meder ---------------------- Berlin, Germany http://www.meder.de/ ------------------- fon: ++49-30-417 17 63 33 Kollwitzstr. 75 ------------------------ fax: ++49-30-417 17 63 45 10435 Berlin --------------------------- mob: ++49-170- 2 98 89 97 Public GnuPG-Key ---------- http://www.meder.de/keys/jo-pubkey.txt From flavio@welke.com Mon Dec 9 22:13:28 2002 From: flavio@welke.com (Flavio) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Passing more than one variable Message-ID: <79805D115465D311BC26009027B0CA912B89DE@WELKESRV2> This message is in MIME format. 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Hi,

Does anyone knows how to pass more than one variable using the following :

"/courier/evalinvoice/<dtml-var sp_invc><dtml-var sp_subrefc>/editinvoice"

Where evalinvoice is the sql method containing the sql statement, editinvoice is the form that will receive the information and the items in red are the variables.

Can anyone help me with this ?

thanks,

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document

any idea why? This is Zope 2.5.1 running on python 2.1.1 on FreeBSD. I've done a littl tal and none of it has caused zope to die like this. From mlewis@exasource.com Mon Dec 9 22:30:01 2002 From: mlewis@exasource.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question In-Reply-To: <1039468289.14017.18.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> References: <200212072004.gB7K4A4Q002007@dick.jymis.com> <1039468289.14017.18.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200212092233.gB9MXB7d000480@dick.jymis.com> So in other words, once you commit to Zope as your DB, your stuck with it forever? There is no option to migrate to SQL later on? Michael On Monday 09 December 2002 02:11 pm, Adam Manock wrote: > No shortcuts that I am aware of.... > > Chances are, after you've thoroughly analyzed your data set, created > your DB schema from your nice pretty ER diagram, properly abstracted > your presentation logic into nice shiny ZPTs, crafted your SQL methods, > and applied the appropriate python "smart glue".... > > You'll be done with the porting (rewrite) of your app ;-) > > Adam > > (Plan to throw one away, 'cause you will anyway :-) > > On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 15:00, Michael wrote: > > Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB > > application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using one > > or the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any pointers > > would be appreciated. > > > > Michael From pw_lists@slinkp.com Mon Dec 9 23:01:24 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:01:24 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Best practices to write business apps? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021209214638.00a79d90@mail.club-internet.fr> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20021209214638.00a79d90@mail.club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <20021209230124.GB8190@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 09:50:22PM +0100, Frederic Faure wrote: > I'm back to playing with Zope, except this time I need it as a tool to > rewrite business apps (payroll, in this case.) I've read the New Riders > book along wit the online Zope Book. I understand that DTML is evil and > that new users should prefer ZPT. I wouldn't say that DTML is evil... simple DTML is very nice, it's just that *abuse* of DTML is evil and it's always tempting to add just "one more thing" instead of breaking it out into a script. And you can abuse ZPT pretty easily, too... tal:define and tal:condition and tal:repeat give you plenty of rope. It's somewhat more explicit rope than some of the magic DTML stuff, and there's a lot less of it; but you can still hang yourself with it. :) > Anyway, is there a good document for newbies that come from procedural > languages like VB that would show them how to get up to speed? The "Advanced Scripting" chapter in the online Zope book is a decent introduction to this kind of thing, although it's a lot more nuts-and-bolts than best-practices. I said *introduction*... it has little examples of forms that are processed by scripts that can call other scripts, etc. Since you say "procedural languages", I suspect what you really need is to read this: http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/gainenlightenment Again, it isn't exactly what you asked for - it's heavy on rah-rah and contains no real "how do I..." stuff. But it will get you in the right mind-frame. > I need to > understand how to separate logic and presentation as cleanly as possible. Object orientation will help you here. Remember what the Extreme Programming guys say: "Refactor mercilessly". When you see some logic in your presentation templates, ask yourself, "What is the maximum amount of this logic that I can break out into a separate script? what is the absolute minimal amount of logic that I can have in this template and still get the job done?" For example, look at the code in a tal:condition="..." statement. Do you have to do a bunch of tal:defines just to set up the condition? Do you have nested tal:conditions? Can you put all that stuff in one python script and in this template just have tal:condition="here/myscript"? These are the kind of low-level questions you can ask yourself. As far as architecture of your app... big topic. TOO big. "It depends." -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 9 23:04:09 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 09 Dec 2002 18:04:09 -0500 Subject: [Zope] TAL that kills In-Reply-To: <20021209153043.B3063@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021209153043.B3063@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <1039475049.1372.110.camel@james> This is a pretty innocuous piece of TAL. Does it continue to happen if you replace "container/docStore" with, for instance, "context/objectValues"? On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 17:30, David Bear wrote: > Interesting problem. IN a ZPT the following TAL will always kill the Zserver processes. > >

> tal:content="doc/title_or_id">document >

> > any idea why? > > This is Zope 2.5.1 running on python 2.1.1 on FreeBSD. > > I've done a littl tal and none of it has caused zope to die like this. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 9 22:57:45 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 23:57:45 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Python Question: Morphing Classes? Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209234541.00a4c8f0@prue.torped.se> In lack for other Python mailing lists I send my question here (there ought to be someone with a bit of python-zen here ;-) I'm have a bit of a problem because I need to copy one object in the ZODB. Now the copy-and-paste support of Zope will not do it because it actually export/imports the object including all its sub object. So I have abandoned that idea (after an interesting attempt to export only the object (based on their oids), which was bound to fail. Anyway, there isn't any generic way to create an arbitrary product instance. Because if I could do that I could copy all the data into the new object,= but I need to be able to handle any addable Zope object and they all got= different init-methods requiring arguments. But I have tried another thing: Creating an instance (a) of the class C: pass, I can set the a.__class__=3DA (where A is another class), a will report that it is a instance of A and it will have all of A's class context. This look like a possible, even if not so less hackerish, way around my=20 problem. Are there any traps I could fall into here? Regards, Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From PieterB Mon Dec 9 23:09:38 2002 From: PieterB (PieterB) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:09:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] Webtrends (or something like that) and Zope 2.6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021209230938.037BA21140@gewis.win.tue.nl> > Is it possible to use webtrends with zope. I want to have some statistics > from the websites that i host in Zope 2.6. I don't know why webtrends shouldn't work. But I prefer http://awstats.sf.net/ because it's free. > Does annybody have an idea how to fix this ? Change the webtrends log format to match Zope's format ;) Have a look at: http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-coders/2002-September/001859.html and use NCSA extended/combined log format if possible. PieterB From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU Mon Dec 9 23:10:53 2002 From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:10:53 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD Message-ID: <200212092310.PAA08312@sumeru.stanford.EDU> I have been running a dual processor AMD Athlon server with a 760-based Tyan motherboard, 2GB memory, 100GB disk, Redhat Linux 7.3 without problem. I've watched for but have not seen any problems with the global interpreter loc. The workload seems to distribute over the processors without any problems. Uptime is currently a something like 5 months. We support several thousand users using Zope. The original installation of RH7.3 was painful because interrupts were being directed to the wrong processor on intial load. Getting the intial load required the use of the magical, undocumented flag '-isys' at load-boot time. From hawkfish@electricfish.com Mon Dec 9 23:10:02 2002 From: hawkfish@electricfish.com (Richard Wesley) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:10:02 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ZMySQLDA time zone In-Reply-To: <15861.3897.288162.490609@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <15861.3897.288162.490609@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: It appears that the MySQL adapter (2.0.8) assumes that the time zone of datetime records is the same as the time zone of the machine. From a quick look at the source, it appears that this is because DateTime is constructed/parsed without time zone arguments. This is problematical because we (and I assume many others, as it is good practice) keep database times in GMT. I can hack up the adapter to use GMT, but I was wondering if there was a better solution to the problem (a config setting somewhere). TIA, Sincerely, Richard Wesley Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 (f) +1-206-493-1697 From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 9 23:24:43 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:24:43 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question In-Reply-To: <200212072004.gB7K4A4Q002007@dick.jymis.com> Message-ID: Not really a shortcut, but you could export each folder in the root folder of the ZODB installation and import the .zexp files into the SQL installation. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 3:01 PM To: Zope List Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using one or the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any pointers would be appreciated. Michael _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From m.federighi@ucl.ac.uk Mon Dec 9 23:24:33 2002 From: m.federighi@ucl.ac.uk (Marco Federighi) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 23:24:33 -0000 Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Message-ID: <003801c29fda$21bfcca0$6440033e@agendaxt> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C29FDA.21A762A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all! Has anyone succeeded in installing the python win32 extensions, and how? = My installer refuses to recognise that python is installed, even though = I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and /bin/lib/win32) = where python21.dll sits. 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Hi all!

Has anyone succeeded in installing the = python win32=20 extensions, and how? My installer refuses to recognise that python is = installed,=20 even though I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and = /bin/lib/win32)=20 where python21.dll sits.

Thanks for any insights

Marco

------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C29FDA.21A762A0-- From ken@cleveland.lug.net Mon Dec 9 23:48:55 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:48:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF51254.6090100@zope.net.ua> Message-ID: Myroslav, You bring up some good points: Myroslav Opyr at 23:59 (UTC+0200) on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 said: = ken wrote: = = >I'd recommend *not* going with AMD. See the link in my sig. = > = > = I've read that information. Ok, I understand your frustration but: Yeah, there was a lot of frustration the first year, but it's just a fact of life now. I guess I should rewrite my doc now that my mood is different. Genuinely I was just offering a warning. AMD doesn't stand behind their products, certainly didn't honor their guarantee with me. = 1) Server do not have AGP card installed (and cares not about GUI) This is absolutely true. Some people like to have the option, when sitting at the server, to be able to bring up X, open several windows, avail oneself of visual diagnostics, etc. I've worked on servers both ways. Having a GUI makes life easier. But that's my personal preference. = 2) Server MB is usually built on chipset better then VIA (probably = AMD-760 MP) True. I specifically asked for a MB without a VIA chipset. = 3) Server can avoid running Linux (FreeBSD can do the job). IIRC, BSD is subject to the same cache coherency problem. I should say "was" actually. Newer kernel code fixes the bug, I've read. = = Is there any flat statistics? Server running AMD processor hanged each = week, Server running dual-AMD Athlon MP processor showed -325 pystones = compared to 5468 pystones on Intel Celeron. Again I am not for not = against AMD or Intel, I'm interested in numbers... = = m. = From working4aliving@hotmail.com Mon Dec 9 23:47:21 2002 From: working4aliving@hotmail.com (working4aliving) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:47:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions References: <003801c29fda$21bfcca0$6440033e@agendaxt> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C29FB3.683F0C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I run zope off of c:\python21 w/ the windows stuff installed. It's redirected in the start.bat ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marco Federighi=20 To: zope@zope.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Hi all! Has anyone succeeded in installing the python win32 extensions, and = how? My installer refuses to recognise that python is installed, even = though I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and = /bin/lib/win32) where python21.dll sits. Thanks for any insights Marco ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C29FB3.683F0C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I run zope off of c:\python21 w/ = the windows=20 stuff installed.

It's redirected in the = start.bat

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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 = 6:24=20 PM

Subject: [Zope] win32 = extensions

Hi all!

Has anyone succeeded in installing = the python=20 win32 extensions, and how? My installer refuses to recognise that = python is=20 installed, even though I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, = and=20 /bin/lib/win32) where python21.dll sits.

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------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C29FB3.683F0C80-- From mlewis@exasource.com Mon Dec 9 23:50:10 2002 From: mlewis@exasource.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:50:10 -0700 Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200212092353.gB9NrK7d008067@dick.jymis.com> Sorry, I guess i'm not being very clear. I'm not looking for a shortcut. I built a job board in Zope using ZODB. I want to keep the app in zope, but move the records that have been created, (ie: the jobs that have been entered) to Postgres. Postgres and psychopg are installed. I was just wondering if there was a how-to or some other form of documentation on how to accomplish this. The only thing I can find is how to set up Zope or SQL from the start. Michael On Monday 09 December 2002 04:24 pm, Kevin Carlson wrote: > Not really a shortcut, but you could export each folder in the root folder > of the ZODB installation and import the .zexp files into the SQL > installation. > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of > Michael > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 3:01 PM > To: Zope List > Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question > > > Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB > application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using one > or the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any pointers > would be appreciated. > > Michael From scott.meilicke@intp.com Mon Dec 9 23:50:52 2002 From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 15:50:52 -0800 Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Message-ID: What platform? I installed the ActiveState version of python on windows before the win32 extensions, and then told zope to use that version of python instead of the one it shipped with. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Marco Federighi [mailto:m.federighi@ucl.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:25 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Hi all! Has anyone succeeded in installing the python win32 extensions, and how? My installer refuses to recognise that python is installed, even though I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and /bin/lib/win32) where python21.dll sits. Thanks for any insights Marco The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. From zope@dylanreinhardt.com Mon Dec 9 23:56:46 2002 From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:56:46 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Best practices to write business apps? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021209214638.00a79d90@mail.club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209152923.01ded5b0@www.dylanreinhardt.com> I've written several business apps in Zope and would suggest one best practice right off the bat: acquire more experience with your tools. Not to be discouraging, but you'll need more than passing familiarity with your development environment before you take on programming any reasonably important business system. Yes, payroll software can be done in Zope. Yes, it's even a good idea. But I would encourage you not to make a payroll system your first major project... in *any* language or environment. Particularly not if you're operating under any kind of deadline or expectation of useful results. As for frameworks, Zope *is* a framework and a very powerful one at that. Virtually anything Zope doesn't already do can be done with Python products. Read a good book on programming with Python (O'Reilly's Learning Python 2nd Ed. is my recommendation). Then read the Zope Developer's Guide (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZDG) at least three times. Develop a product that exposes a basic interface and can return functional administration screens using either ZPT or DTML. Give yourself at least a month or two to do all this. At the point where you're weighing issues more technically nuanced than whether DTML is evil (it isn't), I think you'll probably find a lot of help available for any ambitious projects you may be ready to take on. HTH, Dylan At 12:50 PM 12/9/2002, you wrote: >Hi, > >I'm back to playing with Zope, except this time I need it as a tool to >rewrite business apps (payroll, in this case.) I've read the New Riders >book along wit the online Zope Book. I understand that DTML is evil and >that new users should prefer ZPT. > >Anyway, is there a good document for newbies that come from procedural >languages like VB that would show them how to get up to speed? I need to >understand how to separate logic and presentation as cleanly as possible. >I'm actually still wondering which framework to use (Midgard, Enhydra, etc.) > >Thx >Fred. > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 9 23:51:42 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:51:42 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ExtenssionClasses Question: (was: Python Question: Morphing Classes? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209234541.00a4c8f0@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021210004901.02125160@prue.torped.se> At 23:57 2002-12-09 +0100, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote: >Creating an instance (a) of the class C: pass, I can set the >a.__class__=3DA (where A is another class), a will report that it >is a instance of A and it will have all of A's class context. > >This look like a possible, even if not so less hackerish, way around my=20 >problem. > >Are there any traps I could fall into here? I just found an even better (or at least more working way) to do this: obj =3D new.instance(Class, Dict) The problem is that new.instance doesn't seam to work with Extension= Classes? Any idea? Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From ken@cleveland.lug.net Mon Dec 9 23:59:52 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:59:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <200212092310.PAA08312@sumeru.stanford.EDU> Message-ID: To my previous comments I should add that, to my knowledge, not every AMD CPU model suffers the problem in question. Dennis Allison at 15:10 (UTC-0800) on Mon, 9 Dec 2002 said: = I have been running a dual processor AMD Athlon server with a 760-based = Tyan motherboard, 2GB memory, 100GB disk, Redhat Linux 7.3 without problem. = I've watched for but have not seen any problems with the global interpreter = loc. The workload seems to distribute over the processors without any problems. = = Uptime is currently a something like 5 months. We support several thousand = users using Zope. = = The original installation of RH7.3 was painful because interrupts were being = directed to the wrong processor on intial load. Getting the intial load = required the use of the magical, undocumented flag '-isys' at load-boot = time. = From hancock@anansispaceworks.com Tue Dec 10 00:15:17 2002 From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:15:17 -0800 Subject: [Zope] type(sql_search())? In-Reply-To: <1039329581.1100.45.camel@dorothy> References: <1039329581.1100.45.camel@dorothy> Message-ID: Thanks Chris! On Saturday 07 December 2002 10:39 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > It's likely an instance of a "record" object (as defined in > lib/Components/ExtensionClass/src/Record.c). I believe the idea for it > not having a __dict__ (snicker) was that there can be many, many of > these generated for a single SQL query and thus it saved memory at some > point in time. I'm not sure how true that is now. It may still be > eminently so. They don't have a __dict__ but they are enumerable. > Something like this might work (or something along these lines, I have > not tested it): Okay -- that makes the code a little easier to understand. > class my_wrapper: > def __init__(self, sqlres): > d = {} > for k in sqlres.__record_schema__.keys(): > d[k] = getattr(sqlres, k) > self.__dict__.update(d) > my_form = DTMLFile('www/my_form', globals()) > > def some_method(self, foo): > return self.sql_stuff + foo > > wrapped_results = [my_wrapper(r) for r in sql_search()] This works, though I actually coded it like: for k in sqlres.__record_schema__.keys(): self.setattr(k, getattr(sqlres, k)) which is a little more streamlined in code but I have no idea how efficient it is. > In any case, I'm not sure what you mean about type() not working against > them [...] > If you mean that this is from "trusted" > code like a Product, and its repr just doesn't render in your browser, > it's because you're viewing the rendering of the error as an HTML page, > the repr is between pointy brackets, and your browser just won't show it > to you because it thinks it's part of the HTML. View the source of the > page instead, or use Zope 2.6 and learn to use the error_log feature. Duh. Yeah, that was the problem -- thank you for pointing this out! Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com From sean.upton@uniontrib.com Tue Dec 10 00:38:47 2002 From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:38:47 -0800 Subject: TransparentFolder (was: Re: [Zope] Help! I need an old Debia n package.) Message-ID: TFs are evil. They are the wrong solution to a real problem. A better solution for clutter is the CMF skins tool. Even if you only use the CMF to get the skins tool and put a non-CMF zope application within a portal folder, this is much better than using TFs. In Zope 2.3, TFs will break sessioning with CoreSessionTracking becuase of an id collision for browser id managers. I assume this is also true of more modern Zope versions. The skins tool will do for most people what they intended to do with TFs, but in a less surprising, and well-documented way (plus you get configurable layering, and concurrent software upgrade migration paths by developing TTW code in another skin than your production application deployment). Sean -----Original Message----- From: Kyler Laird [mailto:Kyler@Lairds.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:50 PM To: Jo Meder Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: TransparentFolder (was: Re: [Zope] Help! I need an old Debian package.) On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:09:43AM +0100, Jo Meder wrote: > I'd second TransparentFolder as a feature request for Zope. They are > really useful to structure storage without complicating URLs if you know > what you're doing. Of course you have to be careful wrt duplicate ids. As I recall, they cause horrible (processing) inefficiencies, so they are not likely to be adopted in the base product. The human efficiencies they bring (to us) are substantial. I've been assuming that I'm the only one using TFs, so it's nice to know someone else does. More people to share the load if we ever need to modify the product to handle a change in Zope! Now for my TF usage... It's become *very* common for me to create a Folder such as "proposals" and fill it with other Folders that represent proposals. Then I want tools that act on the proposals (like "PDF_compilation"). It's sooo clean for me to be able to drop a TF named "tools" into "proposals" and then simply call it like this. http://.../blah/proposals/2002001/PDF_compilation I do this all the time. It would be hard for me to go back to a non-TF world. --kyler _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From abmanock@earthlink.net Tue Dec 10 00:44:15 2002 From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock) Date: 09 Dec 2002 19:44:15 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question In-Reply-To: <200212092353.gB9NrK7d008067@dick.jymis.com> References: <200212092353.gB9NrK7d008067@dick.jymis.com> Message-ID: <1039481056.1172.22.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> I do not know how your site is set up, but if your data in the ZODB is consistent in structure and well separated from your logic and presentation code, what you want to do should not be too difficult. You should concentrate on two tasks: 1) The actual data migration, "selecting" your data from the ZODB and outputting it in a form that can be brought into PostgreSQL. You may be able to parse a Zope XML export file to create a source file for Postgres:-) Then.... (COPY http://www.postgresql.org/idocs/index.php?sql-copy.html) 2) Creating SQL queries that return results in the same form that your logic / presentation code expects. (You may be able to create an "abstraction layer" product or script to do this that can be used everywhere) Hope that helps, Adam On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 18:50, Michael wrote: > Sorry, I guess i'm not being very clear. I'm not looking for a shortcut. I > built a job board in Zope using ZODB. I want to keep the app in zope, but > move the records that have been created, (ie: the jobs that have been > entered) to Postgres. Postgres and psychopg are installed. I was just > wondering if there was a how-to or some other form of documentation on how to > accomplish this. The only thing I can find is how to set up Zope or SQL from > the start. > > Michael > > On Monday 09 December 2002 04:24 pm, Kevin Carlson wrote: > > Not really a shortcut, but you could export each folder in the root folder > > of the ZODB installation and import the .zexp files into the SQL > > installation. > > > > Kevin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of > > Michael > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 3:01 PM > > To: Zope List > > Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question > > > > > > Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB > > application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using one > > or the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any pointers > > would be appreciated. > > > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From myroslav@zope.net.ua Tue Dec 10 00:49:50 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 02:49:50 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <20021209221716.GG26796@meder.de> References:

<20021209221716.GG26796@meder.de> Message-ID: <3DF53A2E.2050202@zope.net.ua> Jo Meder wrote: > [snip] > >We have a number of AMD Servers and they >never had any problems. The only one to ever fail had a P3 CPU. > Since you have both Intel and AMD Servers, do you have any comparisons=20 or at least subjective feeling about the speed of those regarding Zope=20 perfomance? m. --=20 Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua =B0 Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua From hancock@anansispaceworks.com Tue Dec 10 00:48:39 2002 From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:48:39 -0800 Subject: [Zope] DTML w/o acquisition? Message-ID: If in the torrent of messages you happened to notice ;-D, I'm implementing a class wrapper around an SQL result within a Zope product -- this now works thanks to the kind suggestion by Chris McDonough. Now that the wrapping part works, I've exposed another problem -- the main sort of method I want is one that renders the data into HTML for display purposes (i.e. the object draws itself). I was planning to use DTML for this, seeing as that's what's used elsewhere in the application. But when I try to render/run DTMLFile() methods in the wrapper I get complaints about acquisition failures (an error occurs in aq_parent()). Now I could probably go through some hoops to make acquisition happen (that is, give the object an acquisition parent) -- but actually, I don't need it -- all the variables I want rendered are attributes of the wrapper class. If I wanted to, I could give up on DTML and just use a Python format string. myform = """My stuff with %(data) inserted.""" % locals() instead of myform = DTMLFile("dtml/myform", globals(), **locals()) where dtml/myform is: """ My stuff with &dtml-data; inserted. """ However, that would break the "minimize the languages" rule -- I'd now have to use two different template systems in the same product. (I mainly mention it to prove the point that I don't need acquisition). Can I invoke DTML w/o invoking the acquisition mechanism (or at least tell the acquisition mechanism not to try to find a parent for my class)? I don't see how one could do this with DTMLFile, is there a way by actually invoking the DTMLMethod() constructor? Thanks for any suggestions! Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com "Some things are too important to be taken seriously" From myroslav@zope.net.ua Tue Dec 10 00:58:04 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 02:58:04 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <200212092310.PAA08312@sumeru.stanford.EDU> References: <200212092310.PAA08312@sumeru.stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <3DF53C1C.7040603@zope.net.ua> Dennis Allison wrote: >I have been running a dual processor AMD Athlon server with a 760-based >Tyan motherboard, 2GB memory, 100GB disk, Redhat Linux 7.3 without probl= em. >I've watched for but have not seen any problems with the global interpre= ter=20 >loc. The workload seems to distribute over the processors without any p= roblems. > I was told that cooling dual Athlon MP is difficult task and not=20 solution usually turns into 5-8 collers. People say that Intel solutions=20 has better thermal regime. But I am a bit suspicious 'bout Intel thermal=20 protection built into processor effectively cutting processor speed in a=20 half when overheeted. Thus with increased load on server there is=20 potential possibility with Intel solution to get dog-slow machine just=20 because processors are too hot...=20 >Uptime is currently a something like 5 months. We support several thousa= nd >users using Zope. > Excellent stats! It's a pity that you do not have similar Intel server=20 to compare throughput... >The original installation of RH7.3 was painful because interrupts were b= eing >directed to the wrong processor on intial load. Getting the intial load= =20 >required the use of the magical, undocumented flag '-isys' at load-boot >time. > Any news on progress in current releases? m. --=20 Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua =9C Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua cell: +380 50.3174578 From zope@dylanreinhardt.com Tue Dec 10 01:04:52 2002 From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:04:52 -0800 Subject: [Zope] DTML w/o acquisition? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209165636.01e0e368@www.dylanreinhardt.com> Try this: def show_stuff(self): """obligatory doc string""" return DTMLFile(file_name, globals()).__of__(self)() Or, if you prefer, the ZPT version: from Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile import PageTemplateFile def show_stuff(self): """obligatory doc string""" return PageTemplateFile(file_name, globals()).__of__(self)() Trust me, you don't want to go about implementing your own templating system. It sucks. HTH, Dylan At 04:48 PM 12/9/2002, you wrote: >If in the torrent of messages you happened to notice ;-D, I'm implementing a >class wrapper around an SQL result within a Zope product -- this now works >thanks to the kind suggestion by Chris McDonough. Now that the wrapping part >works, I've exposed another problem -- the main sort of method I want is one >that renders the data into HTML for display purposes (i.e. the object draws >itself). > >I was planning to use DTML for this, seeing as that's what's used elsewhere >in the application. But when I try to render/run DTMLFile() methods in the >wrapper I get complaints about acquisition failures (an error occurs in >aq_parent()). Now I could probably go through some hoops to make acquisition >happen (that is, give the object an acquisition parent) -- but actually, I >don't need it -- all the variables I want rendered are attributes of the >wrapper class. If I wanted to, I could give up on DTML and just use a Python >format string. > >myform = """My stuff with %(data) inserted.""" % locals() > >instead of > >myform = DTMLFile("dtml/myform", globals(), **locals()) > >where dtml/myform is: >""" >My stuff with &dtml-data; inserted. >""" > >However, that would break the "minimize the languages" rule -- I'd now have >to use two different template systems in the same product. (I mainly mention >it to prove the point that I don't need acquisition). > >Can I invoke DTML w/o invoking the acquisition mechanism (or at least tell >the acquisition mechanism not to try to find a parent for my class)? > >I don't see how one could do this with DTMLFile, is there a way by actually >invoking the DTMLMethod() constructor? > >Thanks for any suggestions! >Terry > >-- >Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) >Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com > >"Some things are too important to be taken seriously" > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From chrism@zope.com Tue Dec 10 01:12:36 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 09 Dec 2002 20:12:36 -0500 Subject: [Zope] DTML w/o acquisition? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039482757.1420.2.camel@james> A DTMLFile is an object that explicitly requires an acquisition context (for security). There is another class that you can import named HTMLFile (from the same place as DTMLFile) that I believe will do what you want to do. It doesn't appear to require an acquisition context and it has roughly the same signature. If this fails, you can use the DocumentTemplate.HTML class directly and just pass in "raw" DTML to its constructor. - C On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 19:48, Terry Hancock wrote: > If in the torrent of messages you happened to notice ;-D, I'm implementing a > class wrapper around an SQL result within a Zope product -- this now works > thanks to the kind suggestion by Chris McDonough. Now that the wrapping part > works, I've exposed another problem -- the main sort of method I want is one > that renders the data into HTML for display purposes (i.e. the object draws > itself). > > I was planning to use DTML for this, seeing as that's what's used elsewhere > in the application. But when I try to render/run DTMLFile() methods in the > wrapper I get complaints about acquisition failures (an error occurs in > aq_parent()). Now I could probably go through some hoops to make acquisition > happen (that is, give the object an acquisition parent) -- but actually, I > don't need it -- all the variables I want rendered are attributes of the > wrapper class. If I wanted to, I could give up on DTML and just use a Python > format string. > > myform = """My stuff with %(data) inserted.""" % locals() > > instead of > > myform = DTMLFile("dtml/myform", globals(), **locals()) > > where dtml/myform is: > """ > My stuff with &dtml-data; inserted. > """ > > However, that would break the "minimize the languages" rule -- I'd now have > to use two different template systems in the same product. (I mainly mention > it to prove the point that I don't need acquisition). > > Can I invoke DTML w/o invoking the acquisition mechanism (or at least tell > the acquisition mechanism not to try to find a parent for my class)? > > I don't see how one could do this with DTMLFile, is there a way by actually > invoking the DTMLMethod() constructor? > > Thanks for any suggestions! > Terry > > -- > Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) > Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com > > "Some things are too important to be taken seriously" > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From treblid@tpg.com.au Tue Dec 10 01:28:20 2002 From: treblid@tpg.com.au (treblid@tpg.com.au) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:28:20 +1100 Subject: [Zope] How to track the number of anonymous and authenticated users? Message-ID: <1039483700.3df54334b98d5@postoffice.tpg.com.au> HI, I am a newbie to Zope and I can't figure out how to get Zope do the following: 1) Count total number of users on system 2) Keeps track of the total number of anonymous users and authenticated so that I could display them somewhere. I tried searching the web, on Zope.org, and the newsgroups and I can't seem to find any info on this. Has it got something to do with the session_data_manager? Best regards, Theng Kiat From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU Tue Dec 10 01:30:15 2002 From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:30:15 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD Message-ID: <200212100130.RAA08568@sumeru.stanford.EDU> Re: the AMD Server. It's a 2U unit with HUGE air throughput because of the heat problem. It was done for us at CCSI in Atlanta. It is not a noise friendly system, but just fine in a colocation environment. Frequency based thermal management is somewhat self-defeating, but it is fail-safe. What you really have to do is increase the cooling... I don't have a comparable Intel processor machine, but I do run a P-II 60MHz machine (P-II with a repaired FPU) running an ancient version of Linux which serves a few low traffic websites. It's uptime seems to be limited only by the frequency of successful intrusions and/or power failures. I don't have any experience with RH8.0 on the Athlon machines. RH8 is a major change so I will wait a while for it to stablize... -d From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 9 01:50:04 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 08 Dec 2002 20:50:04 -0500 Subject: [Zope] How to track the number of anonymous and authenticated users? In-Reply-To: <1039483700.3df54334b98d5@postoffice.tpg.com.au> References: <1039483700.3df54334b98d5@postoffice.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <1039398605.1117.1.camel@dorothy> On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 20:28, treblid@tpg.com.au wrote: > I tried searching the web, on Zope.org, and the newsgroups and I can't seem to find any info on this. Has it got something to do with the session_data_manager? Yup! See http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/Sessions.stx for a place to start. From kosh@aesaeion.com Tue Dec 10 09:56:23 2002 From: kosh@aesaeion.com (kosh@aesaeion.com) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 02:56:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Myroslav Opyr wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a bit stuck with finding proper solution. What iterest me right now is > comparison of Zope, CMF, Plone perfomance on hardware that pretend to be > called server-kind. Does anybody has any experience or benchmark result in > comparing Intel Xeon and AMD Athlon MP? Anything? Zope, CMF, Plone ab > comparison. Pystones benchmark results? Does anybody know how memory type > influences perfomance? I have an AMD athlon XP 1800 with 1G DDR333 ram that I installed 66 days ago on a server and it has not crashed or had any problems. It gets about 19000 pystone/second and pystone translate directly to zope performance in my experience. It is running on a Biostar M7VIF board which it a VIA KT333 chipset and it has worked very well. I have seen other KT333 boards that where not stable but I really like the Biostar boards I have two of these boards and they have been working great. I don't know about MP systems I have not tested that yet. I also don't know how the memory speed affects performance but this system is far faster then the previous system. I can't comment on CMF or Plone becuase I don't use them I have a python product I wrote that we use and it works quite nicely on this system. From myroslav@zope.net.ua Tue Dec 10 02:35:25 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:35:25 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF552ED.1010701@zope.net.ua> kosh@aesaeion.com wrote: >On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Myroslav Opyr wrote: > =20 > >I have an AMD athlon XP 1800 with 1G DDR333 ram that I installed 66 days >ago on a server and it has not crashed or had any problems. It gets abou= t >19000 pystone/second and pystone translate directly to zope performance = in >my experience. [snip] > >I can't comment on CMF or Plone becuase I don't use them I have a python >product I wrote that we use and it works quite nicely on this system. > Plone is ZPT centered and ZCatalog queries centered. It is a lot of=20 object sitting in a memory cache and a lot of processing power is being=20 consumed. Thus processor cache is not sufficient for the task and speed=20 of conventional memory is becoming important. This is why I am asking=20 about memory subsystem configuration. I am not sure about dual-processor system. Both processors will be=20 competing the memory, the bus unless there are separate channels. If=20 anybody now details about CMF/Plone and how they cope with different=20 memory subsystems it would be great. There is psyco which can speed things a lot but with P IV we have=20 experience that it gives _nothing_ at all. I am sure it is there and it=20 is active but I cannot see any benefit from compiled code. If somebody=20 has benchmarks for python/python+psyco on different hardware it would be=20 great. m. --=20 Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua =B0 Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua From jlagarde@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 10 04:32:51 2002 From: jlagarde@bigfoot.com (Jean Lagarde) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:32:51 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Access error trying to use pyRXP example wrapper from an external method Message-ID: <3DF56E73.1080405@bigfoot.com> Hi all, I'm a bit rusty on Zope and Python (was never that good to start with...), and I was hoping to be able to do something quick this evening but I've hit a brick wall. I have the following very simple external method: def niceXML(XMLstring): import pyRXP import xmlutils tree = pyRXP.Parser().parse(XMLstring) return xmlutils.TagWrapper(tree) pyRXP is the parser provided by the ReportLab folks. I had used their example xmlutils wrapper before in straight Python and rather liked it, so I wanted to use it from Zope using the external method above. However, although I can call the external method and get the wrapper object from Zope, everytime I try to use the object within Zope (e.g. object[0], object.TagName, etc.), Zope returns the error "Not allowed to access <0, or TagName, or etc.> in this context". I assume it has something to do with how the xmlutils wrapper works, but I haven't dared look at the code yet. Anybody has any pointer as to what might be wrong here to make my troubleshooting job a bit easier (and faster!)? Thanks ahead, Jean From jlagarde@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 10 04:42:02 2002 From: jlagarde@bigfoot.com (Jean Lagarde) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:42:02 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Access error trying to use pyRXP example wrapper from an external method In-Reply-To: <3DF56E73.1080405@bigfoot.com> References: <3DF56E73.1080405@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <3DF5709A.50301@bigfoot.com> Well, allright, I did have a peek in the xmlutils code, and I guess the issue is that the TagWrapper class redefines such things as __len__ and __getitem__ to do its thing. I'm guessing that's what Zope's security mechanism doesn't like, but I have no clue how to fix it, so hints would still be appreciated! BTW, I have tested pyRXP and xmlutils in the Python shell, and they work fine from there. -- Jean Jean Lagarde wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a bit rusty on Zope and Python (was never that good to start > with...), and I was hoping to be able to do something quick this > evening but I've hit a brick wall. I have the following very simple > external method: > > def niceXML(XMLstring): > > import pyRXP > import xmlutils > > tree = pyRXP.Parser().parse(XMLstring) > > return xmlutils.TagWrapper(tree) > > pyRXP is the parser provided by the ReportLab folks. I had used their > example xmlutils wrapper before in straight Python and rather liked > it, so I wanted to use it from Zope using the external method above. > However, although I can call the external method and get the wrapper > object from Zope, everytime I try to use the object within Zope (e.g. > object[0], object.TagName, etc.), Zope returns the error "Not allowed > to access <0, or TagName, or etc.> in this context". I assume it has > something to do with how the xmlutils wrapper works, but I haven't > dared look at the code yet. > > Anybody has any pointer as to what might be wrong here to make my > troubleshooting job a bit easier (and faster!)? > > Thanks ahead, > > Jean > > From pw_lists@slinkp.com Tue Dec 10 04:52:34 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 20:52:34 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Access error trying to use pyRXP example wrapper from an external method In-Reply-To: <3DF56E73.1080405@bigfoot.com> References: <3DF56E73.1080405@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <20021210045234.GF21399@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:32:51PM -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote: object[0], object.TagName, etc.), Zope returns the error "Not allowed to > access <0, or TagName, or etc.> in this context". I assume it has > something to do with how the xmlutils wrapper works, but I haven't dared > look at the code yet. Not sure if this is your problem, but: Any attributes or methods you call in Zope must be allowed by the Zope security mechanisms; anything that has no security declarations is assumed to be disallowed. But if you set a class variable __allow_access_to_unprotected subobjects__ = 1 ... you can quickly get around that limitation. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From jlagarde@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 10 05:02:01 2002 From: jlagarde@bigfoot.com (Jean Lagarde) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:02:01 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Access error trying to use pyRXP example wrapper from an external method In-Reply-To: <3DF5709A.50301@bigfoot.com> References: <3DF56E73.1080405@bigfoot.com> <3DF5709A.50301@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <3DF57549.3060103@bigfoot.com> Never mind, figured it out. The key was to put __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1 in the TagWrapper class definition Cheers, Jean From matthew@exhibit.com.au Tue Dec 10 05:52:39 2002 From: matthew@exhibit.com.au (Matthew) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:52:39 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Transperant folders breaks addCMFSite? Message-ID: <3DF58127.8040905@exhibit.com.au> I just started using transparent folders. They are great and solved a=20 lot of my headaches in one go. However, I notice that when I try to add a new CMF site I get the error=20 below. I did this 1 hour after installing Transperant Folders. It=20 hasn't happened with any other products I've tried. Can someone give me some insight into what happened, and what I should do= ? Many thanks. Matt. ---------------------------------- Error Transcript: An error was encountered while publishing this resource. *TALESError* Sorry, a site error occurred. Traceback (innermost last): File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 150, in= publish_module File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 114, in= publish File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 159, in zpub= lisher_exception_hook (Object: testsite2) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 98, in = publish File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, in m= apply (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 39, in = call_object (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line= 252, in __call__ (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line= 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\ZopePageTemp= late.py, line 210, in _exec (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Products\CMFCore\FSPageTemplat= e.py, line 124, in pt_render (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\PageTemplate= =2Epy, line 86, in pt_render (Object: finish_portal_construction) (Info: {'container': , 'here': , 'modules': , 'nothing': None, 'options': {'args': ()}, 'request':

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HTTP_COOKIE 'SITESERVER=3DID=3Dc46e8ab759ce0780b7c83d6dd59ee9f5; sql_pref__rows=3D= "20"; sql_prefcols=3D"40"; ac_name=3D"matthew"; show_filter_form=3D"1= "; tree-s=3D"eJzTiFZ3hIKAiHRb9VgdTQAwIwTY"'
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HTTP_USER_AGENT 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en= -US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021126'
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, 'root': , 'template': , 'traverse_subpath': [], 'user': matthew}) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 158, in= call File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in= interpret File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 523, in= do_useMacro File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in= interpret File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 474, in= do_loop_tal File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\TALES.py, li= ne 233, in setRepeat File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\TALES.py, li= ne 247, in evaluate File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\Expressions.= py, line 198, in call File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\Expressions.= py, line 193, in _eval File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\Expressions.= py, line 93, in render (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\ZRPythonExpr= =2Epy, line 75, in call_with_ns (Object: __render_with_namespace) File C:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Products\CMFCore\FSPythonScrip= t.py, line 83, in render_with_namespace (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line= 266, in render_with_namespace__ (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line= 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Products\CMFCore\FSPythonScrip= t.py, line 122, in _exec (Object: breadcrumbs) (Info: ({}, (), {}, (1,))) File Script (Python), line 4, in breadcrumbs TALESError: exceptions.NameError on global name 'context' is not defined = in "standard:'here/breadcrumbs'", at line 241, column 4 From hancock@anansispaceworks.com Tue Dec 10 05:59:32 2002 From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:59:32 -0800 Subject: [Zope] DTML w/o acquisition? In-Reply-To: <1039482757.1420.2.camel@james> References: <1039482757.1420.2.camel@james> Message-ID: Thanks again Chris! On Monday 09 December 2002 05:12 pm, Chris McDonough wrote: > A DTMLFile is an object that explicitly requires an acquisition context > (for security). > > There is another class that you can import named HTMLFile (from the same > place as DTMLFile) that I believe will do what you want to do. It > doesn't appear to require an acquisition context and it has roughly the > same signature. Yes, that works! I guess I figured that HTMLFile() would differ by not allowing DTML tags. The only difference in the signature is that the filename doesn't automatically use the package_home(), so you have to do it explicitly. I am now a happy hacker. :-D > If this fails, you can use the DocumentTemplate.HTML class directly and > just pass in "raw" DTML to its constructor. Interesting to poke around in those modules. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com "Some things are too important to be taken seriously" From andy@agmweb.ca Tue Dec 10 06:41:56 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:41:56 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Transperant folders breaks addCMFSite? References: <3DF58127.8040905@exhibit.com.au> Message-ID: <002801c2a017$3b7c5090$0201a8c0@main> CMF bug: http://collector.zope.org/CMF/37 -- Andy McKay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew" To: Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:52 PM Subject: [Zope] Transperant folders breaks addCMFSite? I just started using transparent folders. They are great and solved a lot of my headaches in one go. However, I notice that when I try to add a new CMF site I get the error below. I did this 1 hour after installing Transperant Folders. It hasn't happened with any other products I've tried. Can someone give me some insight into what happened, and what I should do? Many thanks. Matt. ---------------------------------- Error Transcript: An error was encountered while publishing this resource. TALESError* Sorry, a site error occurred. Traceback (innermost last): File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 114, in publish File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Zope\init.py, line 159, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: testsite2) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 98, in publish File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, in mapply (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 39, in call_object (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 252, in call (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\ZopePageTemplate.py, line 210, in _exec (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Products\CMFCore\FSPageTemplate.py, line 124, in pt_render (Object: finish_portal_construction) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\PageTemplate.py, line 86, in pt_render (Object: finish_portal_construction) (Info: {'container': , 'here': , 'modules': , 'nothing': None, 'options': {'args': ()}, 'request':
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HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING 'gzip, deflate, compress;q=0.9'
channel.creation_time 1039498708
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PATH_INFO '/VirtualHostBase/http/www.exhibit.com.au :80/clients/VirtualHostRoot/testsite2/finish_portal_construction'
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PATH_TRANSLATED '\\VirtualHostBase\\http\\www.exhib it.com.au:80\\clients\\VirtualHostRoot\\testsite2\\finish_portal_constructio n'
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HTTP_COOKIE 'SITESERVER=ID=c46e8ab759ce0780b7c83d6d d59ee9f5; sql_pref__rows="20"; sql_prefcols="40"; ac_name="matthew"; show_filter_form="1"; tree-s="eJzTiFZ3hIKAiHRb9VgdTQAwIwTY"'
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HTTP_ACCEPT 'text/xml,application/xml,application/x html+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,i mage/gif;q=0.2,text/css,/;q=0.1'
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HTTP_USER_AGENT 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021126'
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET 'ISO-8859-1, utf-8;q=0.66, ;q=0.66'
, 'root': , 'template': , 'traverse_subpath': [], 'user': matthew}) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 158, in call File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 523, in do_useMacro File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in interpret File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\TAL\TALInterpreter.py, line 474, in do_loop_tal File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\TALES.py, line 233, in setRepeat File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\TALES.py, line 247, in evaluate File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\Expressions.py, line 198, in call File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\Expressions.py, line 193, in _eval File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\Expressions.py, line 93, in render (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\PageTemplates\ZRPythonExpr.py, line 75, in call_with_ns (Object: __render_with_namespace) File C:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Products\CMFCore\FSPythonScript.py, line 83, in render_with_namespace (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 266, in render_with_namespace__ (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 283, in _bindAndExec (Object: breadcrumbs) File C:\Program Files\WebSite\lib\python\Products\CMFCore\FSPythonScript.py, line 122, in _exec (Object: breadcrumbs) (Info: ({}, (), {}, (1,))) File Script (Python), line 4, in breadcrumbs TALESError: exceptions.NameError on global name 'context' is not defined in "standard:'here/breadcrumbs'", at line 241, column 4 _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope No cross posts or HTML encoding! (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From terry@taipeitimes.com Tue Dec 10 06:46:17 2002 From: terry@taipeitimes.com (Terry) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:46:17 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory Message-ID: <3DF58DB9.7000101@taipeitimes.com> Hi, The memory used by python getting more and more. Is that a normal behavoir. In beginning I start Zope. the python use about 26M memory. After several hours get the result by "top" Sort by memory usage PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python Have any idea why? TerryH From verni0@hotmail.com Tue Dec 10 07:08:53 2002 From: verni0@hotmail.com (Rares Vernica) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:08:53 +0200 Subject: [Zope] 'OFS/dtml' not needed References: <15861.3897.288162.490609@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: In fact I've restarted zope after renaming the directory. About the products installet, there is only "Hotfix_2002-06-14 (Installed product Hotfix_2002-06-14)" installed, in rest the Zope is a fresh one. :-( Best regards, Rares ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dieter Maurer" To: "Rares Vernica" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] 'OFS/dtml' not needed > Rares Vernica writes: > > I have a Zope 2.5.1 on a Linux. > > If I rename the 'dtml' dir in 'OFS', my Zope has no problem working (after > > restarting or running in debug mode, of course). > > My problem started when I changed a dtml file in 'OFS/dtml' directory an the > > changes could not been seen. > > So this directory is not needed, where are those files keeped, what's > > happening?! > > Any ideea?! > They are loaded and installed as class variables when Zope is loaded. > When, later, Zope is unable to find them, it uses "0" as last > modification time which means they appear up-to-date. > > Only, when you restart, Zope will seriously miss them. > > > Dieter > From zanotti.m@apss.tn.it Tue Dec 10 08:25:48 2002 From: zanotti.m@apss.tn.it (Zanotti Michele) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:25:48 +0100 Subject: [Zope] UnicodeError with TextindexNG on Zope 2.5.1 Message-ID: Hi, I have created a TextIndexNG index with italian stop words on Zope 2.5.1 (win2k). In stop words tab I have a Error Type: UnicodeError Error Value: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128). I have installed unicode patch (Unicode0.6.diff-2.5.1 in efge's page)for Zope 2.5.1 but this error persists. Can anyone help me? Thank you Michele From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com Tue Dec 10 08:29:48 2002 From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:29:48 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders In-Reply-To: <200212092205.00287.cschm@gmx.de> References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> <200212091843.16865.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <200212092205.00287.cschm@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200212100829.48622.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> > > > > I need to store many > > > > large objects (30+MB video files) in a way that > > > > how many is 'many'? > > Many means possibly hundreds, in the long run maybe a thousand. That gives you a total size of 3G to 30G. Thats big for a zodb, but not t= oo=20 big. From Andreas Jung Tue Dec 10 09:13:20 2002 From: Andreas Jung (Andreas Jung) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:13:20 +0100 Subject: [Zope] UnicodeError with TextindexNG on Zope 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <797727.1039515200@[0.0.0.3]> Which TextIndexNG version ? I am going to check this. I assume that the complete other functionality works as expected. -aj --On Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 09:25 +0100 Zanotti Michele wrote: > Hi, > I have created a TextIndexNG index with italian stop words on Zope 2.5.1 > (win2k). In stop words tab I have a > Error Type: UnicodeError > Error Value: ASCII encoding error: ordinal not in range(128). > I have installed unicode patch (Unicode0.6.diff-2.5.1 in efge's page)for > Zope 2.5.1 but this error persists. Can anyone help me? > Thank you > Michele > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > No cross posts or HTML encoding! > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jo@meder.de Tue Dec 10 09:25:01 2002 From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:25:01 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF53A2E.2050202@zope.net.ua> References: <20021209221716.GG26796@meder.de> <3DF53A2E.2050202@zope.net.ua> Message-ID: <20021210092501.GB20008@meder.de> Am 10.12.2002, 01:49 Uhr schröb Myroslav Opyr : > Since you have both Intel and AMD Servers, do you have any comparisons > or at least subjective feeling about the speed of those regarding Zope > perfomance? If I compare systems with matching components I'd say the difference in performance is negligible. No hard facts here, just my impression. Jo. -- Internetmanufaktur Jo Meder ---------------------- Berlin, Germany http://www.meder.de/ ------------------- fon: ++49-30-417 17 63 33 Kollwitzstr. 75 ------------------------ fax: ++49-30-417 17 63 45 10435 Berlin --------------------------- mob: ++49-170- 2 98 89 97 Public GnuPG-Key ---------- http://www.meder.de/keys/jo-pubkey.txt From ffaure@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 10 09:31:17 2002 From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:31:17 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Best practices to write business apps? In-Reply-To: <20021210005102.25151.20769.Mailman@mail.python.org> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021210103020.00a6a210@mail.club-internet.fr> (I combined the two posts into one) On ... , Paul Winkler wrote: >I wouldn't say that DTML is evil... simple DTML is very nice, >it's just that abuse* of DTML is evil and it's always tempting >to add just "one more thing" instead of breaking it out into >a script. And you can abuse ZPT pretty easily, too... I agree, but IMHO, the Zope Book shouldn't start with DTML right from the beginning because it'd be easier for developers who come from traditionnal environments (ie. not web apps) to jump right in. Instead, it should show right from the beginning how to separate logic and presentation, just like ASP.Net does. Much less confusion :-) >The "Advanced Scripting" chapter in the online Zope book is a decent >introduction to this kind of thing, although it's a lot more >nuts-and-bolts than best-practices. Yup, read that last night. >Since you say "procedural languages", I suspect what you >really need is to read this: >http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/gainenlightenment Indeed, read that too before posting. A must-read for Zope newbies. +++++++ On ... , Dylan Reinhardt wrote: >But I would encourage you not to make a payroll system your first major project... I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, my dad's software in VB, which I intend to take over as he retires, is a total mess. So I have to start again from scratch, and I figured I should do it as a web app to reduce the cost of deployment and updates. >Read a good book on programming with Python (O'Reilly's Learning Python 2nd >Ed. is my recommendation). Then read the Zope Developer's Guide >(http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZDG) at least three times. Develop a >product that exposes a basic interface and can return functional >administration screens using either ZPT or DTML. Give yourself at least a >month or two to do all this. I have already purchased "Learning Python", and will read the ZDG today. Combined with the New Riders book and possibly the (Zope) Bible, I should be able to build a prototype. >At the point where you're weighing issues more technically nuanced than >whether DTML is evil (it isn't), I think you'll probably find a lot of help >available for any ambitious projects you may be ready to take on. The "DTML is evil" was a reference to one of the articles I found on Zope. Actually, as explained to Paul, I think it'd be a good thing to write an introduction to developers who come from procedural programming and don't know anything about web apps. My brother is heavy into ASP.Net, and I must say it's very nice because it separates logic and layout right from the beginning. As an introduction to web development, it's pretty good, but I'd rather use a non-proprietary tool. Thx much to both of you for your input :-) Fred. From zanotti.m@apss.tn.it Tue Dec 10 09:40:24 2002 From: zanotti.m@apss.tn.it (Zanotti Michele) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:40:24 +0100 Subject: R: [Zope] UnicodeError with TextindexNG on Zope 2.5.1 Message-ID: > > Which TextIndexNG version ? I am going to check this. I > assume that the complete other functionality works as expected. > > -aj Thanks Andreas, My version is 1.7 Michele From Andreas Jung Tue Dec 10 09:43:42 2002 From: Andreas Jung (Andreas Jung) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:43:42 +0100 Subject: R: [Zope] UnicodeError with TextindexNG on Zope 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2619997.1039517022@[0.0.0.3]> --On Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 10:40 +0100 Zanotti Michele wrote: >> >> Which TextIndexNG version ? I am going to check this. I >> assume that the complete other functionality works as expected. >> >> -aj > > Thanks Andreas, > My version is 1.7 You must have a time machine. The current version is 1.07. A fix for this ZMI problem will be available as soon as possible through the CVS. -aj --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From uwe@schuerkamp.de Tue Dec 10 10:04:06 2002 From: uwe@schuerkamp.de (Uwe Schuerkamp) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:04:06 +0100 Subject: [Zope] issuetracker CVS search problem Message-ID: <20021210100406.GS9834@nionex.net> Hi folks, this mail is intended for Peter Bengtsson, the author of issuetracker, but his systems seems to have problems. As I gather "Issuetracker" is a rather popular product, so I wonder if any of you have suggestions for my little problem (I'm using Zope 2.6.0 and the CVS version of ITP) TIA, Uwe ###################################################################### Hi Peter, when I try to "search" something from the home page of issuetracker, it a) returns all tickets as matches, no matter what I search for b) highlights only items found in "subject", no "sections" or others Are these bugs or features? ;-) Cheers & all the best, uwe PS: your peterbe.mail bounces or is delayed on occasion... ###################################################################### -- Uwe Schuerkamp, Nionex GmbH Ein Unternehmen der Bertelsmann Arvato AG Uwe.Schuerkamp@nionex.net FON: +49 (0)5241 / 80 10 66, FAX: / 806 23 38 GnuPG KeyID: 5887047D Avenwedder Str. 55, 33311 Guetersloh GnuPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 From jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no Tue Dec 10 13:56:29 2002 From: jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no (Jorg =?iso-8859-1?B?RS4gUvhkc2r4?=) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:56:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] creating z-class in folder Message-ID: <20021210135629.GA29598@stud.ntnu.no> I am trying to create a z-class (which resides in a product I have made) in a given folder through a python script. My syntax is obviously wrong (since it is not working), but alas I cannot find out what it is.. anyone? context.manage_addProduct['productName'].manage_z-class-constructor("spam") -jorg From matt@zope.com Tue Dec 10 14:33:22 2002 From: matt@zope.com (Matthew T. Kromer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:33:22 -0500 Subject: [Zope] TAL that kills In-Reply-To: <1039475049.1372.110.camel@james> References: <20021209153043.B3063@moroni.pp.asu.edu> <1039475049.1372.110.camel@james> Message-ID: <3DF5FB32.20507@zope.com> Chris McDonough wrote: >This is a pretty innocuous piece of TAL. Does it continue to happen if >you replace "container/docStore" with, for instance, >"context/objectValues"? > >On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 17:30, David Bear wrote: > > >>Interesting problem. IN a ZPT the following TAL will always kill the Zserver processes. >> >>
>> > tal:content="doc/title_or_id">document >>
>> >>any idea why? >> >>This is Zope 2.5.1 running on python 2.1.1 on FreeBSD. >> >>I've done a littl tal and none of it has caused zope to die like this. >> >> >> The problem here (if it hasn't been reported already) is a combination of python 2.1.1 and FreeBSD. You need to use Python 2.1.3 with a stack-size increase patch to run Zope reliably on FreeBSD. Python 2.1.1 is buggy with respect to a number of things that are exercised by TAL and python scripts. -- Matt Kromer Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ From d.chirila@bucarest.finsiel.ro Tue Dec 10 14:48:41 2002 From: d.chirila@bucarest.finsiel.ro (Dragos Chirila) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:48:41 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Meta types and properties Message-ID: <00fc01c2a05b$3b321040$2f01a8c0@dchirila> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C2A06B.FEA890C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi i don't know if this is possible , but here it is : I want to build a list with all meta-types (I mean ALL !!) and for each = meta_type i want to be able to get all the properties of an object with = that meta_type. Is this possible ??? Any idea is real healpful. 10x a lot dragos ------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C2A06B.FEA890C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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i don't know if this is possible , but = here it is=20 :

I want to build a list with = all=20 meta-types (I mean ALL !!) and for each meta_type i want to be able to = get all=20 the properties of an object with that meta_type. Is this possible=20 ???

Any idea is real healpful.

10x a lot

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------=_NextPart_000_00F9_01C2A06B.FEA890C0-- From hannu@tm.ee Tue Dec 10 17:18:57 2002 From: hannu@tm.ee (Hannu Krosing) Date: 10 Dec 2002 17:18:57 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF552ED.1010701@zope.net.ua> References: <3DF552ED.1010701@zope.net.ua> Message-ID: <1039540737.14134.7.camel@huli> On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 02:35, Myroslav Opyr wrote: > kosh@aesaeion.com wrote: > > I am not sure about dual-processor system. Both processors will be > competing the memory, the bus unless there are separate channels. If you run just one Zope then you don't need to worry about competeing for memory ;) as only one processor at a time will be used by the same python process regardless of processor type. -- Hannu Krosing From felix@chaptereight.com Tue Dec 10 15:32:58 2002 From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean) Date: 10 Dec 2002 15:32:58 +0000 Subject: [Zope] ZPT standard_error_message not finding methods Message-ID: <1039534380.3636.4.camel@zaphod.chaptereight.com> Hi I'm trying to write a standard_error_message page in ZPT and attach it to my class. In my class definition I have: standard_error_message = PageTemplateFile('html/error_page.html', globals()) and manage_master = PageTemplateFile('html/master_page.html', globals()) in error_page.html I have:
Now, this returns true: http://localhost:8080/sites/myClassInstance/standard_error_message but this returns false: http://localhost:8080/sites/myClassInstance/some_nonexistent_page There are also other methods that are found when calling standard_error_message explicitly, but not when it's called as a result of an error. What am I missing about how standard_error_message is called? TIA Felix. From jlagarde@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 10 16:03:10 2002 From: jlagarde@bigfoot.com (jlagarde@bigfoot.com) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:03:10 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Access error trying to use pyRXP example wrapper from an external method Message-ID: <000101c2a065$a3645d80$c206a8c0@lagardej> Paul, If I had not figured it out myself at about the same time you were writing your reply, you would have saved my evening! Thank you very much! I hope I speak for all of us in need of help on this list in thanking all of you Zope masters for taking the time to answer our questions. Cheers, Jean --- In zope@yahoogroups.com, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 08:32:51PM -0800, Jean Lagarde wrote: > Not sure if this is your problem, but: > Any attributes or methods you call in Zope must be allowed by > the Zope security mechanisms; anything that has no > security declarations is assumed to be disallowed. > But if you set a class variable > __allow_access_to_unprotected subobjects__ = 1 > ... you can quickly get around that limitation. > > -- > > Paul Winkler > http://www.slinkp.com From SKelley@ci.santa-rosa.ca.us Tue Dec 10 16:27:00 2002 From: SKelley@ci.santa-rosa.ca.us (Kelley, Sean) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:27:00 -0800 Subject: [Zope] dynamic resize of image? Message-ID: <6149A13D3D37D4119A1600D0B708ABD306B59B22@mail.ci.santa-rosa.ca.us> I have some images in a btree folder that get added by users. How do I show those images in a smaller size easily on a search results page? It would be nice to some way specify the default size in width such as 50 pixels etc. From marc@bowery.com Tue Dec 10 16:33:36 2002 From: marc@bowery.com (Marc Lindahl) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:33:36 -0500 Subject: [Zope] dynamic resize of image? In-Reply-To: <6149A13D3D37D4119A1600D0B708ABD306B59B22@mail.ci.santa-rosa.ca.us> Message-ID: Try my Imagetag_corepatch product - http://www.zope.org/Members/bowerymarc on 12/10/02 11:27 AM, Kelley, Sean at SKelley@ci.santa-rosa.ca.us scrivened: > I have some images in a btree folder that get added by users. How do I show > those images in a smaller size easily on a search results page? It would be > nice to some way specify the default size in width such as 50 pixels etc. > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > No cross posts or HTML encoding! > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From mail@peterbe.com Tue Dec 10 16:35:24 2002 From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:35:24 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Accepting XML requests Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021210162845.02043e98@mail.grenna.net> I have set up a URL with a SMS-sending company. Basically, we set up so that http://ourhost:port/Folder/SMS/Receive should get the XML when someone sends an SMS to a particular number. How do I in Zope, or rather, in this External Method accept the XML? Once I get the XML-Schema in as a string I'll know what to do with it, but I'm not there yet. [NB: Invoking the URL manually in the browser works and even though it's just very basic debugging, it returns something without errors] If I try to standalone manually send an XML request using httplib as I think they'll send it to us I get this error in response: Error Type: ResponseError
Error Value:
Traceback (innermost last): File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in publish File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/Zope/init.py, line 159, in zpublisher_exception_hook (Object: Zope) File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 63, in publish File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py, line 357, in processInputs File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/xmlrpc.py, line 47, in parse_input File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/xmlrpclib.py, line 532, in loads File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/xmlrpclib.py, line 369, in close ResponseError: (see above) Why xmlrpclib? Basically, how do I get the XML-Schema in as a string to work with from the XML request? Peter From mlewis@exasource.com Tue Dec 10 16:53:07 2002 From: mlewis@exasource.com (Michael) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:53:07 -0700 Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question In-Reply-To: <1039481056.1172.22.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> References: <200212092353.gB9NrK7d008067@dick.jymis.com> <1039481056.1172.22.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200212101656.gBAGuE7d029963@dick.jymis.com> Thanks Adam, This gives me something to work on now. Michael On Monday 09 December 2002 05:44 pm, Adam Manock wrote: > I do not know how your site is set up, but if your data in the ZODB is > consistent in structure and well separated from your logic and > presentation code, what you want to do should not be too difficult. You > should concentrate on two tasks: > I> 1) The actual data migration, "selecting" your data from the ZODB > and outputting it in a form that can be brought into PostgreSQL. > You may be able to parse a Zope XML export file to create a source > file for Postgres:-) Then.... > (COPY http://www.postgresql.org/idocs/index.php?sql-copy.html) > > 2) Creating SQL queries that return results in the same form that > your logic / presentation code expects. (You may be able to create an > "abstraction layer" product or script to do this > that can be used everywhere) > > Hope that helps, > > Adam > > On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 18:50, Michael wrote: > > Sorry, I guess i'm not being very clear. I'm not looking for a shortcut. > > I built a job board in Zope using ZODB. I want to keep the app in zope, > > but move the records that have been created, (ie: the jobs that have been > > entered) to Postgres. Postgres and psychopg are installed. I was just > > wondering if there was a how-to or some other form of documentation on > > how to accomplish this. The only thing I can find is how to set up Zope > > or SQL from the start. > > > > Michael > > > > On Monday 09 December 2002 04:24 pm, Kevin Carlson wrote: > > > Not really a shortcut, but you could export each folder in the root > > > folder of the ZODB installation and import the .zexp files into the SQL > > > installation. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of > > > Michael > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 3:01 PM > > > To: Zope List > > > Subject: [Zope] ZODB / SQL question > > > > > > > > > Is there some documentation on how to migrate from an existing ZODB > > > application to SQL? I seem to only find info on setting up and using > > > one or the other, but now how to switch from one to the other. Any > > > pointers would be appreciated. > > > > > > Michael > > > From myroslav@zope.net.ua Tue Dec 10 16:59:12 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:59:12 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <1039540737.14134.7.camel@huli> Message-ID: On 10 Dec 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 02:35, Myroslav Opyr wrote: > > kosh@aesaeion.com wrote: > > > > > I am not sure about dual-processor system. Both processors will be > > competing the memory, the bus unless there are separate channels. > > If you run just one Zope then you don't need to worry about competeing > for memory ;) as only one processor at a time will be used by the same > python process regardless of processor type. I am worrying because it'll be a dozen of Zopes running there, but at least two of them will do the load, others will be sleeping but shoulb be at hand all the time... Competition for the bus and for the memory should be heavy. Thus I'm asking about binding different Zopes to different processors to avoid locks people told me are possible due to Python locking... m. -- Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua cell: +380 50.3174578 From bkc@murkworks.com Tue Dec 10 17:28:47 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:28:47 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF5DC86.1069.1F515128@localhost> > I have an AMD athlon XP 1800 with 1G DDR333 ram that I installed 66 days > ago on a server and it has not crashed or had any problems. It gets about > 19000 pystone/second and pystone translate directly to zope performance in On a dual Xeon 2.2 ghz machine [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.51 This machine benchmarks at 19607.8 pystones/second [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.48 This machine benchmarks at 20833.3 pystones/second [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.5 This machine benchmarks at 20000 pystones/second [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.49 This machine benchmarks at 20408.2 pystones/second longer run: [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 4.82 This machine benchmarks at 20746.9 pystones/second It's a wintec rackmount box and annoys the hell out of me due to it's noise. Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From ben@thesite.org Tue Dec 10 17:30:14 2002 From: ben@thesite.org (ben@thesite.org) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:30:14 +0000 Subject: [Zope] user folder question Message-ID: I'm having a problem with user folder permissions: I have one acl_users folder at the root folder of a website, www.mysite.org, using Cookie Crumbler I also have an acl_users folder in parallel to this, allowing access to an XML-RPC application server area. I need to keep them separate, or failed XML-RPC authentications are picked up by the Cookie Crumbler code, and the XML-RPC client gets the login_form html page sent back! I need to let certain users of the website create user accounts in the xml-rpc server area. I have a user role, hq_user, who creates the user in the xml-rpc area. The permissions on the xml-rpc root directory grant hq_user the manage_users permission. But when I try to add users in this other acl_users folder, I get an error that it is not allowed. But this user, if I change the code, can create users in its "own" acl_users folder. The hq_user role is created in the root directory above both the acl_users folders in question. the python code: context.xmlrpcfolder.acl_users.userFolderAddUser(name=f_username, password=f_pwd, roles=['c_lcp'], domains=()) can anyone shed light on this? what permissions do I have to set to add a user to an acl_folder? TIA Ben Avery (zope 2.6.0, pyth 2.1.3, solaris 2.7) From abmanock@earthlink.net Tue Dec 10 17:58:43 2002 From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock) Date: 10 Dec 2002 12:58:43 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF5DC86.1069.1F515128@localhost> References: <3DF5DC86.1069.1F515128@localhost> Message-ID: <1039543124.14729.16.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> MSI K7 Master-S motherboard (AMD 760) Single Athlon XP 1700+ 512MB ECC DDR266 RAM RedHat 8.0 (finally, a usable .0 release :-)) python 2.1.3 compiled from source rpm (see my post today on zope-dev) using gcc version 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7) python2.1 /usr/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.55 This machine benchmarks at 18181.8 pystones/second Adam On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 12:28, Brad Clements wrote: > > I have an AMD athlon XP 1800 with 1G DDR333 ram that I installed 66 days > > ago on a server and it has not crashed or had any problems. It gets about > > 19000 pystone/second and pystone translate directly to zope performance in > > On a dual Xeon 2.2 ghz machine > > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.51 > This machine benchmarks at 19607.8 pystones/second > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.48 > This machine benchmarks at 20833.3 pystones/second > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.5 > This machine benchmarks at 20000 pystones/second > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.49 > This machine benchmarks at 20408.2 pystones/second > > longer run: > > > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 4.82 > This machine benchmarks at 20746.9 pystones/second > > It's a wintec rackmount box and annoys the hell out of me due to it's noise. > > Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 > http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax > AOL-IM: BKClements > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > No cross posts or HTML encoding! > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From myroslav@zope.net.ua Tue Dec 10 17:46:26 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:46:26 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF5DC86.1069.1F515128@localhost> References: <3DF5DC86.1069.1F515128@localhost> Message-ID: <3DF62871.8060302@zope.net.ua> Brad Clements wrote: >>I have an AMD athlon XP 1800 with 1G DDR333 ram that I installed 66 days >>ago on a server and it has not crashed or had any problems. It gets about >>19000 pystone/second and pystone translate directly to zope performance in > > On a dual Xeon 2.2 ghz machine [snip] > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 4.82 > This machine benchmarks at 20746.9 pystones/second > > It's a wintec rackmount box and annoys the hell out of me due to it's noise. What is RAM configuration? In this test we see perfomance of one processor only. Processor GHz Memory Pystones ========== === ======== ======== Xeon 2.2 - 20746 Athlon XP 1.8 DDR333 - 19000 Pentium IV 1.5 SDRAM133 - 11267 Can anybody add more here? m. -- Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua cell: +380 50.3174578 From bkc@murkworks.com Tue Dec 10 18:18:44 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:18:44 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF62871.8060302@zope.net.ua> References: <3DF5DC86.1069.1F515128@localhost> Message-ID: <3DF5E83B.15967.1F7F0C43@localhost> > What is RAM configuration? 1GB and running two pystones at once: [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py & ; Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py [1] 500 Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.01 This machine benchmarks at 19960.1 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.02 This machine benchmarks at 19920.3 pystones/second [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From pw_lists@slinkp.com Tue Dec 10 18:40:43 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:40:43 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: File from Zope to Filesystem In-Reply-To: <2429FB79DCF4194983FD5926D6F98BEE0878D54A@dstrem02.ditscom.dsh.de> References: <2429FB79DCF4194983FD5926D6F98BEE0878D54A@dstrem02.ditscom.dsh.de> Message-ID: <20021210184043.GA5102@slinkp.com> You should really direct your questions to the list, not to me. I'm cc'ing the list. On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:49:49PM +0100, Coanda, Mihai wrote: > Hi, > > I have a form > >
enctype="multipart/form-data"> > File or Image:
> >
> > and this is evaluated by the following DTML Method processForm_localFS : > > > >
Variable "filex" exists and has the value " "_.str(REQUEST.filex)">".
> > > > > > > This returns: > ============ > > Variable "filex" exists and has the value "". Look at the html source, inside the quotes. I bet you'll see > form > filex > > > How can I find the name and the path of the filex? Name: filex.filename Path: I don't think you can. But you might have a look at filex.headers, maybe there's something useful in there. I forget. --PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU Tue Dec 10 19:07:16 2002 From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:07:16 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD Message-ID: <200212101907.LAA10150@sumeru.stanford.EDU> Dual AMD Athlon 2100 Tyan 760 based motherboard 2GB Memory RH 7.3 + stock distribution of Python 2.1.3 20833 pystones. Note that this is a single processor number. From vladimir.petrov@creuna.no Tue Dec 10 19:18:30 2002 From: vladimir.petrov@creuna.no (Vladimir Petrov) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:18:30 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 Message-ID: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A53F@osl-2kex01.co.int> I have some problems with setup Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2. I have ZEO on one = machine and ZEO client on the other. I'm starting ZEO and logs with = daemontools, and ZEO is up and running. Also client is monotired by = daemontools and its working. In a log on ZEO side, I got reported = connection (over tcp) and client create .zec file and everything looks = just vine. But, when I do on ZEO client (echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.0\n\n"; = sleep 5) | telnet 217.144.227.147 80 I get connection, html of quick = page and connection is closed by ZEO client. When I try once more, I get = nothing just closed connection. There's nothing in a log files neither = on ZEO or on ZEO client machine. I have to mention that the simmilar = setup, but on single macine with a socket instead tcp for connecting ZEO = client with ZEO, working just fine... Anybody have any idea what's = happening, or some links where I can read about it? =20 Vladimir From bill@libc.org Tue Dec 10 19:08:58 2002 From: bill@libc.org (Bill Anderson) Date: 10 Dec 2002 12:08:58 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <200212101907.LAA10150@sumeru.stanford.EDU> References: <200212101907.LAA10150@sumeru.stanford.EDU> Message-ID: <1039547338.3318.348.camel@locutus> On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 12:07, Dennis Allison wrote: > Dual AMD Athlon 2100 > Tyan 760 based motherboard > 2GB Memory > RH 7.3 + stock distribution of Python 2.1.3 > > 20833 pystones. > > Note that this is a single processor number. Here is for a Dual 1600+ Athlon, stock Python 2.2.2, on Redhat 8, 512MB RAM: $ /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.48 This machine benchmarks at 20833.3 pystones/second Interesting ... they are the same. I suspect we have the same MB. :) From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:06:30 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:06:30 +0100 Subject: [Zope] createInObjectManager Confusion In-Reply-To: <3DF4E472.C7C4085D@uleth.ca> References: <3DF4E472.C7C4085D@uleth.ca> Message-ID: <15862.15158.625175.117055@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Edward Pollard writes: > I'd like to call createInObjectManager from within a Python script. > However, it seems to get completely cantankerous when being called from > as such > > Error Type: TypeError > Error Value: argument id was ommitted > > My code is: > instance = container.zIndexItem.createInObjectManager('goTest!', > context.REQUEST) Try: id= 'goTest!' REQUEST.set('id',id) instance= ...(id,context.REQUEST) Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:08:00 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:08:00 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Python Question: Morphing Classes? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209234541.00a4c8f0@prue.torped.se> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209234541.00a4c8f0@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <15862.15248.752726.96675@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] writes: > .... > But I have tried another thing: > Creating an instance (a) of the class C: pass, I can set the > a.class=A (where A is another class), a will report that it > is a instance of A and it will have all of A's class context. "ExtensionClass" instances do not allow you to write to the "class" attribute. I think, they just ignore it. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:32:47 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:32:47 +0100 Subject: [Zope] [Bug] TALES in Zope 2.5.x converts "ConflictError" into "TALESError" Message-ID: <15862.16735.249451.327932@gargle.gargle.HOWL> I know, I cross post... Please adjust the destinations as appropriate when you reply. In Zope 2.5.x, "Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Context.evaluate" converts most exceptions into "TALESError" exceptions. This is probably not a good idea for many exceptions. For "ConflictError" (and its subclass "ReadConflictError") it is definitely a bug. It prevents the usual automatic retry of the request and exposes an exception not understandable to a normal user. I think Shane has cleaned up the exception conversion for Zope 2.6. Therefore, I do not file a bug report to the collector. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:20:08 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:20:08 +0100 Subject: [Zope] creating z-class in folder In-Reply-To: <20021210135629.GA29598@stud.ntnu.no> References: <20021210135629.GA29598@stud.ntnu.no> Message-ID: <15862.15976.508072.477782@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Jorg E. R=F8dsj=F8 writes: > I am trying to create a z-class (which resides in a product I have mad= e) in a given folder through a python script. >=20 > My syntax is obviously wrong (since it is not working), but alas I can= not find out what it > is.. anyone? >=20 > context.manage_addProduct['productName'].manage_z-class-constructor("s= pam") Hopefully, you do not write the "-" in your script... Otherwise, the syntax does not look wrong. Do you pass the parameters to your constructor that it expects? When it were a DTML object, "spam" would be wrong and you should expect "Name/KeyError"s. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:08:56 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:08:56 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ExtenssionClasses Question: (was: Python Question: Morphing Classes? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021210004901.02125160@prue.torped.se> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021209234541.00a4c8f0@prue.torped.se> <5.1.1.6.0.20021210004901.02125160@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <15862.15304.774535.789099@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] writes: > At 23:57 2002-12-09 +0100, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote: > >Creating an instance (a) of the class C: pass, I can set the > >a.class=A (where A is another class), a will report that it > >is a instance of A and it will have all of A's class context. > > > >This look like a possible, even if not so less hackerish, way around my > >problem. > > > >Are there any traps I could fall into here? > > I just found an even better (or at least more working way) to do this: > > obj = new.instance(Class, Dict) > > The problem is that new.instance doesn't seam to work with Extension Classes? Indeed. Use "basicnew" for this. Have a look at "pickle.load" to learn how it is used. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:03:22 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:03:22 +0100 Subject: [Zope] uniqueValuesFor makes an unexpected evaluation. In-Reply-To: <002101c29fb1$8ea12b30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> References: <002101c29fb1$8ea12b30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> Message-ID: <15862.14970.963472.515039@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Lennart Regebro writes: > > ... > > This works as expected, that is returning a list of the unique values in the > "countries" index. But if I run this from a folder that is a subfolder to a > fodler called "countries" then index_html gets called for this folder (which > the failes, because the index:_html makes a call to REQUEST and it doens't > get one). > > That makes absolutely no sense, and I can't even see why this would happen. > Why does countries gets called when I do > "Catalog.uniqeValuesFor('countries')". There are quotation marks around > countries, it should be treated like a string. It seems to me that it's > called during the interpretation of the DTML, because it seems that > uniqueValuesFor isn't being called. Unbelievable... I would say, the problem must be at a different place. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:18:02 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:18:02 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory In-Reply-To: <3DF58DB9.7000101@taipeitimes.com> References: <3DF58DB9.7000101@taipeitimes.com> Message-ID: <15862.15850.754911.374348@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Terry writes: > The memory used by python getting more and more. > Is that a normal behavoir. > > In beginning I start Zope. > the python use about 26M memory. > > After several hours > get the result by "top" > Sort by memory usage > > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python > > Have any idea why? That is not unusual. Zope makes extensive use of caches. They get filled over time and consume memory. Only, when memory consumption grows unbounded, you want to start looking for leaks. There is a "LeakFinder" product to help you in this case. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Tue Dec 10 19:05:30 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:05:30 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Storing many large objects in many folders In-Reply-To: <200212091843.16865.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> References: <200212091558.28102.cschm@gmx.de> <3DF4CAA4.1000209@gmx.net> <200212091843.16865.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> Message-ID: <15862.15098.588170.155770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Toby Dickenson writes: > ... > > but serving > > such big files blocks one of only 4 (per-default) of zopes worker threads. > > This means that 4 concurrent downloads make it impossible for someone > > else to get to your server, > > No. Worker threads run as fast as they can, and are not constrained by client > connection speed. Wirker threads transfer the response to the medusa thread, > which spools the reponse back to the client. It can handle thousands of > connections. The worker thread needlessly copies the file and stores its content in a temporary file. Something that can be avoided when the file is directly served from the file system. Dieter From myroslav@zope.net.ua Tue Dec 10 19:44:18 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:44:18 +0200 (EET) Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF5E83B.15967.1F7F0C43@localhost> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Brad Clements wrote: > > What is RAM configuration? > > 1GB Is there a chance to find out it's type and if it is registered memory? > and running two pystones at once: > > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py & ; Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > [1] 500 > Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.01 > This machine benchmarks at 19960.1 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.02 > This machine benchmarks at 19920.3 pystones/second > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Effectively doubling perfomance... Summary of collected information is at: http://plone.org/Members/interra/hardware m. -- Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua cell: +380 50.3174578 From jw@CONCISION.COM Tue Dec 10 19:51:45 2002 From: jw@CONCISION.COM (Jim Welch) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:51:45 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 References: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A53F@osl-2kex01.co.int> Message-ID: <3DF645D1.9070305@CONCISION.COM> Vladimir Petrov wrote: >I have some problems with setup Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2. I have ZEO on one machine and ZEO client on the other. I'm starting ZEO and logs with daemontools, and ZEO is up and running. Also client is monotired by daemontools and its working. In a log on ZEO side, I got reported connection (over tcp) and client create .zec file and everything looks just vine. But, when I do on ZEO client (echo -e "GET / HTTP/1.0\n\n"; sleep 5) | telnet 217.144.227.147 80 I get connection, html of quick page and connection is closed by ZEO client. When I try once more, I get nothing just closed connection. There's nothing in a log files neither on ZEO or on ZEO client machine. I have to mention that the simmilar setup, but on single macine with a socket instead tcp for connecting ZEO client with ZEO, working just fine... Anybody have any idea what's happening, or some links where I can read about it? > >Vladimir > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > No cross posts or HTML encoding! >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > Could it be a (absence of) reverse DNS problem. If you're using tcpserver maybe you would use -H or -R. It's a wild guess, I know. From lennart@regebro.nu Tue Dec 10 20:04:49 2002 From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:04:49 +0100 Subject: [Zope] uniqueValuesFor makes an unexpected evaluation. References: <002101c29fb1$8ea12b30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> <15862.14970.963472.515039@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <002401c2a087$dcbf7840$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Dieter Maurer" > > That makes absolutely no sense, and I can't even see why this would happen. > > Why does countries gets called when I do > > "Catalog.uniqeValuesFor('countries')". There are quotation marks around > > countries, it should be treated like a string. It seems to me that it's > > called during the interpretation of the DTML, because it seems that > > uniqueValuesFor isn't being called. > Unbelievable... Pretty much... > I would say, the problem must be at a different place. Well, I did: blblbla And everything worked. Very strange.... From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com Tue Dec 10 20:29:38 2002 From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:29:38 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Packless sessions with DBTab Message-ID: I noticed that ExternalMount had been deprecated and replaced by DBTab. I'm in the process of attempting to set up some sort of nonundoing storage for 2.6's sessioning mechanics for use with a ZEO installation. Because all of the documentation is for previous versions of all the different pieces of the puzzle, I've succeeded in totally confusing myself. Is there a new procedure for setting up packless storage for use on Zeo clients? Which Berkeley DB are folks using with 2.6? Should I perhaps just take a long nap first? Thanks! Chris From davis@mccalldesign.com Tue Dec 10 20:28:41 2002 From: davis@mccalldesign.com (Davis Marques) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:28:41 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ZProject Message-ID: <000001c2a08a$ba820790$15938cc6@ARRIS19> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A047.AC604E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know where ZProject for Zope can be downloaded? I came across the Wiki for this product, but there's no reference to a site or individual who maintains it. Thanks Davis ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A047.AC604E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know where ZProject for Zope can be = downloaded? I came across the Wiki for this product, but there’s no reference = to a site or individual who maintains it.

Thanks

Davis

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A047.AC604E30-- From m.federighi@ee.ucl.ac.uk Tue Dec 10 21:57:27 2002 From: m.federighi@ee.ucl.ac.uk (Marco Federighi) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:57:27 -0000 Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions References: <003801c29fda$21bfcca0$6440033e@agendaxt> Message-ID: <000f01c2a097$2163f520$6440033e@agendaxt> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2A097.2120D1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. And I assume that you left all products (the Plone and CMF = products) where they are, that is, in WebSite/lib/python/Products, not = somewhere else in the python 2.1 folder? All the best Marco ----- Original Message -----=20 From: working4aliving=20 To: Marco Federighi ; zope=20 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] win32 extensions I run zope off of c:\python21 w/ the windows stuff installed. It's redirected in the start.bat ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marco Federighi=20 To: zope@zope.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Hi all! Has anyone succeeded in installing the python win32 extensions, and = how? My installer refuses to recognise that python is installed, even = though I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and = /bin/lib/win32) where python21.dll sits. Thanks for any insights Marco ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2A097.2120D1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks. And I assume that you left all = products=20 (the Plone and CMF products) where they are, that is, in=20 WebSite/lib/python/Products, not somewhere else in the python 2.1=20 folder?

All the best

Marco

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 working4aliving

HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING	'gzip, deflate, compress;q=3D0.9'
channel.creation_time	1039498708
SERVER_PROTOCOL	'HTTP/1.0'
SERVER_PORT	'8080'
PATH_INFO	'/VirtualHostBase/ht= tp/www.exhibit.com.au:80/clients/VirtualHostRoot/testsite2/finish_portal_= construction'
HTTP_HOST	'192.168.0.16:8080'
= REQUEST_METHOD	'GET'
'\\VirtualHostBase\\http\\www.exhibit.com.au:8= 0\\clients\\VirtualHostRoot\\testsite2\\finish_portal_construction'
HTTP_VIA	'1.1 www.exhib= it.com.au'
HTTP_COOKIE	'SITESERVER=3DID=3Dc46e8ab759ce0780b7c83d6dd59ee9f5; sql_pref__rows=3D= "20"; sql_pref__cols=3D"40"; __ac_name=3D"matthew"; show_filter_form=3D"1= "; tree-s=3D"eJzTiFZ3hIKAiHRb9VgdTQAwIwTY"'
SCRIPT_NAME	''
SERVER_SOFTWARE	'Zope/(Zope 2.5.1 (binary release,= python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) ZServer/1.1b1'
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE	'en-us, e= n;q=3D0.50'
HTTP_ACCEPT	'text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=3D0.9,t= ext/plain;q=3D0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=3D0.2,text= /css,/;q=3D0.1'
REMOTE_A= DDR	'192.168.0.1'
= HTTP_REFERER	'http://www.exhibit.com.au/manage_addProduct/CMFDefa= ult/addPortal'
SERVER_NAME=	'your-8gzc7wme2m'
'CGI/1.1'
HTTP_USER_AGENT	'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en= -US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021126'
'ISO-8859-1, utf-8;q=3D0.66, *;q=3D0.66'

SESSION	<Python Method object at 02078878>

HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING	'gzip, deflate, compress;q=0.9'
channel.creation_time	1039498708
SERVER_PROTOCOL	'HTTP/1.0'
SERVER_PORT	'8080'
PATH_INFO	'/VirtualHostBase/http/www.exhibit.com.au :80/clients/VirtualHostRoot/testsite2/finish_portal_construction'
HTTP_HOST	'192.168.0.16:8080'
REQUEST_METHOD	'GET'
PATH_TRANSLATED	'\\VirtualHostBase\\http\\www.exhib it.com.au:80\\clients\\VirtualHostRoot\\testsite2\\finish_portal_constructio n'
HTTP_VIA	'1.1 www.exhibit.com.au'
HTTP_COOKIE	'SITESERVER=ID=c46e8ab759ce0780b7c83d6d d59ee9f5; sql_pref__rows="20"; sql_pref__cols="40"; __ac_name="matthew"; show_filter_form="1"; tree-s="eJzTiFZ3hIKAiHRb9VgdTQAwIwTY"'
SCRIPT_NAME	''
SERVER_SOFTWARE	'Zope/(Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) ZServer/1.1b1'
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE	'en-us, en;q=0.50'
HTTP_ACCEPT	'text/xml,application/xml,application/x html+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,i mage/gif;q=0.2,text/css,/;q=0.1'
REMOTE_ADDR	'192.168.0.1'
HTTP_REFERER	'http://www.exhibit.com.au/manage_addP roduct/CMFDefault/addPortal'
SERVER_NAME	'your-8gzc7wme2m'
GATEWAY_INTERFACE	'CGI/1.1'
HTTP_USER_AGENT	'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021126'
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET	'ISO-8859-1, utf-8;q=0.66, *;q=0.66'

To: Marco Federighi ; zope

Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 = 11:47=20 PM

Subject: Re: [Zope] win32=20 extensions

I run zope off of c:\python21 = w/ the=20 windows stuff installed.

It's redirected in the = start.bat

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Marco=20 Federighi

To: zope@zope.org

Sent: Monday, December 09, = 2002 6:24=20 PM

Subject: [Zope] win32 = extensions

Hi all!

Has anyone succeeded in installing = the python=20 win32 extensions, and how? My installer refuses to recognise that = python is=20 installed, even though I try to install in the Zope directories = (/bin, and=20 /bin/lib/win32) where python21.dll sits.

Thanks for any = insights

Marco

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2A097.2120D1A0-- From myzope@gmx.net Wed Dec 11 00:23:09 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:23:09 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory References: <3DF58DB9.7000101@taipeitimes.com> <15862.15850.754911.374348@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <3DF6856D.7000708@gmx.net> Dieter Maurer wrote: > Terry writes: > > The memory used by python getting more and more. > > Is that a normal behavoir. > > > > In beginning I start Zope. > > the python use about 26M memory. > > > > After several hours > > get the result by "top" > > Sort by memory usage > > > > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python > > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python > > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python > > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python > > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python > > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python > > > > Have any idea why? > That is not unusual. > > Zope makes extensive use of caches. They get filled over time > and consume memory. > > Only, when memory consumption grows unbounded, you want to start > looking for leaks. There is a "LeakFinder" product to help you > in this case. In addition, search for ChrisD's AutoLance product on zope.org, which restarts zope if it's memory usage goes over a configurable threshold. It's a band-aid solution, but it works quite well. cheers, oliver From myzope@gmx.net Wed Dec 11 00:27:52 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:27:52 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Meta types and properties References: <00fc01c2a05b$3b321040$2f01a8c0@dchirila> Message-ID: <3DF68688.7040408@gmx.net> Dragos Chirila wrote: > hi > > i don't know if this is possible , but here it is : > > I want to build a list with all meta-types (I mean ALL !!) and for each > meta_type i want to be able to get all the properties of an object with > that meta_type. Is this possible ??? > Any idea is real healpful. Possible, but quite resource intensive (get a list of all installed metatypes, look at all objects, filter the ones with a given metatype, get all properties from a given object of this filtered list, get all property values: finished) Perhaps you should be more specific in describing what you want to do? cheers, oliver From scott.meilicke@intp.com Wed Dec 11 00:32:32 2002 From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:32:32 -0800 Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Message-ID: Correct in my case. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Marco Federighi [mailto:m.federighi@ee.ucl.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:57 PM To: working4aliving; zope Subject: Re: [Zope] win32 extensions Thanks. And I assume that you left all products (the Plone and CMF products) where they are, that is, in WebSite/lib/python/Products, not somewhere else in the python 2.1 folder? All the best Marco ----- Original Message ----- From: working4aliving To: Marco Federighi ; zope Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] win32 extensions I run zope off of c:\python21 w/ the windows stuff installed. It's redirected in the start.bat ----- Original Message ----- From: Marco Federighi To: zope@zope.org Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions Hi all! Has anyone succeeded in installing the python win32 extensions, and how? My installer refuses to recognise that python is installed, even though I try to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and /bin/lib/win32) where python21.dll sits. Thanks for any insights Marco The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. 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From myzope@gmx.net Wed Dec 11 00:42:48 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 01:42:48 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Accepting XML requests References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021210162845.02043e98@mail.grenna.net> Message-ID: <3DF68A08.3020601@gmx.net> Peter Bengtsson wrote: > I have set up a URL with a SMS-sending company. > Basically, we set up so that > http://ourhost:port/Folder/SMS/Receive > should get the XML when someone sends an SMS to a particular number. > > How do I in Zope, or rather, in this External Method accept the XML? > Once I get the XML-Schema in as a string I'll know what to do with it, > but I'm not there yet. > > [NB: Invoking the URL manually in the browser works and even though it's > just very basic debugging, it returns something without errors] > If I try to standalone manually send an XML request using httplib as I > think they'll send it to us I get this error in response: > > > > Error Type: ResponseError
> Error Value: 0x92b7ba4>
> > Traceback (innermost last): > File > /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, > line 150, in publish_module > File > /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, > line 114, in publish > File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, > line 159, in zpublisher_exception_hook > (Object: Zope) > File > /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, > line 63, in publish > File > /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py, > line 357, in processInputs > File > /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/xmlrpc.py, line > 47, in parse_input > File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/xmlrpclib.py, line > 532, in loads > File /local/home/peterbe/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/xmlrpclib.py, line > 369, in close > ResponseError: (see above) > > > > Why xmlrpclib? Read the source, Luke ;) In HTTPRequest.py: 351 if (fs.headers.has_key('content-type') and 352 fs.headers['content-type'] == 'text/xml' and 353 method == 'POST'): 354 # Ye haaa, XML-RPC! 355 global xmlrpc 356 if xmlrpc is None: import xmlrpc 357 meth, self.args = xmlrpc.parse_input(fs.value) Zope thinks you want to do xmlrpc, which you don't - I think you just want to get a string, which contains XML. That's not xml-rpc. > Basically, how do I get the XML-Schema in as a string to work with from > the XML request? I'd expect the request to come in as a normal HTTP-POST, encoded like a form (i.e. "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" or "multipart/form-data"), so that you can get to the encoded string using the standard methods. HTH, oliver From shane@zope.com Wed Dec 11 04:14:50 2002 From: shane@zope.com (Shane Hathaway) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:14:50 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Packless sessions with DBTab In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DF6BBBA.9020208@zope.com> On 12/10/2002 03:29 PM, Chris Muldrow wrote: > I noticed that ExternalMount had been deprecated and replaced by > DBTab. I'm in the process of attempting to set up some sort of > nonundoing storage for 2.6's sessioning mechanics for use with a ZEO > installation. Because all of the documentation is for previous > versions of all the different pieces of the puzzle, I've succeeded in > totally confusing myself. Is there a new procedure for setting up > packless storage for use on Zeo clients? Which Berkeley DB are folks > using with 2.6? Should I perhaps just take a long nap first? Thanks! I'm planning to release an update of DBTab soon with BerkeleyDB support included. I also plan to add documentation specifically for BerkeleyDB setup to dbtab.conf.in. (Hopefully most of the docs are already written and I can just copy them.) If the combination doesn't go *kaboom* then I'll let you know! ;-) Shane From marius@codeworks.lt Wed Dec 11 08:02:28 2002 From: marius@codeworks.lt (Marius Gedminas) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:02:28 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: <3DF5E83B.15967.1F7F0C43@localhost> Message-ID: <20021211080228.GA22571@codeworks.lt> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:44:18PM +0200, Myroslav Opyr wrote: [ This was about a Dual-CPU Xeon, IIRC ] > > and running two pystones at once: > > > > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py & ; Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > > [1] 500 > > Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.01 > > This machine benchmarks at 19960.1 pystones/second > > Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.02 > > This machine benchmarks at 19920.3 pystones/second > > [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ > > Effectively doubling perfomance... This is a *single* CPU Athlon (XP 1800+, 1.5 GHz) $ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second $ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py &\ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py &\ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py & python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py [1] 23242 [2] 23243 [3] 23244 Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.52 This machine benchmarks at 19230.8 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.54 This machine benchmarks at 18518.5 pystones/second They all seem to run sequentially, and the numbers do not change even if I try to run 32 of them in parallel. Marius Gedminas -- The BeOS takes the best features from the major operating systems. It's got the power and flexibility of Unix, the interface and ease of use of the MacOS, and Minesweeper from Windows. -- Tyler Riti From hancock@anansispaceworks.com Wed Dec 11 08:20:52 2002 From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:20:52 -0800 Subject: [Zope] MySQL Transaction/Locking/etc Message-ID: Hi All, Twice now I've come into what must be a fairly common problem when using SQL databases in Zope: I simply want MySQL to give me a unique identifier and I need to retrieve what its value is to continue using the correct record. The MySQL side of this is very straightforward -- I just make an AUTO_INCREMENT field and use LAST_INSERT_ID() to get what its value was. I'm less sure how safe this is in Zope -- the whole point being, of course, that when running multi-threaded, another thread *could* stick another record into the table, so that LAST_INSERT_ID() comes up with the wrong value. As a perhaps naive attempt to handle this in a previous application (for which the consequences of an error were not too severe), I simply used the threading module and acquired a lock -- I'm hoping that this will keep at least any threads within my current Zope process from interfering. (Please forgive my ignorance of threads if this betrays a deep misunderstanding! Corrections will be much appreciated. ;-)). I can however, picture installations with more than one Zope *process* running, but accessing the same database, which would presumeably allow collisions under high loads. :-( I tried using MySQL's table-locking mechanism to do this, but the lock would cause *all* my queries to fail -- including the ones that I was supposed to be protecting. Since each ZSQL method can only do one query, I couldn't figure out how to run a batch of them. MySQL can do transactional tables nowadays, but I'm not sure if they would actually make sense for this application -- this "get a unique new record id" function is the only thing I really need to do this way. And I'm not even sure that transactions would be proof against this (would transactions stop the LAST_INSERT_ID() being incremented in the middle of the transaction? It doesn't seem like it would actually violate the transaction model to do that). There doesn't seem to be much on the Zope website or in the ZDG about how to deal with this situation (or perhaps I don't know what to search for). Has anyone else solved it? Is the thread-locking solution adequate, or is there a better way? Any suggestions? Thanks, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com "Some things are too important to be taken seriously" From jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no Wed Dec 11 08:39:30 2002 From: jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no (Jorg =?iso-8859-1?B?RS4gUvhkc2r4?=) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:39:30 +0100 Subject: [Zope] creating z-class in folder In-Reply-To: <15862.15976.508072.477782@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20021210135629.GA29598@stud.ntnu.no> <15862.15976.508072.477782@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <20021211083930.GA31021@stud.ntnu.no> * Dieter Maurer > > context.manage_addProduct['productName'].manage_z-class-constructor("spam") > Hopefully, you do not write the "-" in your script... No, I do not. > Do you pass the parameters to your constructor that it expects? > When it were a DTML object, "spam" would be wrong and you should > expect "Name/KeyError"s. I'm currently getting a "File /home/zope/lib/python/AccessControl/ZopeGuards.py, line 47, in guarded_getattr AttributeError: (see above)" I'm using the constructor which is generated automaticly when one adds a z-class to a product. And from what I can see, ID is the only required argument. -jorg From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 11 09:29:32 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:29:32 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200212111129.32420.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Monday 09 December 2002 21:22, ken wrote: > I'd recommend *not* going with AMD. See the link in my sig. Inhell CPU advertisement? ;-) Using good and expencive motherboard (like = ASUS)=20 we have no such problems with AMD's and no *any* crashes. But using GOOD=20 hardware with AMD CPU's will rise up server price even higher than Intel'= s=20 one. --=20 Regards, Bogdan Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) From lennart@torped.se Wed Dec 11 09:42:20 2002 From: lennart@torped.se (Lennart Regebro) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD References: <200212111129.32420.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> Message-ID: <000801c2a0f9$addfc760$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Bo M. Maryniuck" > But using GOOD hardware with AMD CPU's will rise up > server price even higher than Intel's one. Nah. I bought my computer this July, and I have an ASUS board, as you recommended, and it was much cheaper "per pystone" than Intel. If I remember correctly I lowered the price a good $200 as compared to using Intel-stuff, even though I got faster memory and all. It probably depends a bit on which processors you compare. I didn't buy the fastest AMD around but the third fastest I think. Going faster would have made the difference bigger (Intel charges ridicolous amounts for their top of the line stuff) and it may well be that the difference would have been smaller if I had bought a slower processor. Best Regards Lennart Regebro Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB From Mihai.Coanda@t-systems.com Wed Dec 11 09:56:12 2002 From: Mihai.Coanda@t-systems.com (Coanda, Mihai) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:56:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] localfs Message-ID: <2429FB79DCF4194983FD5926D6F98BEE0878D609@dstrem02.ditscom.dsh.de> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A0FB.899EB3F0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I'm a new user for LocalFS product. I have a form and this is evaluated by the following DTML Method processForm_localFS :

Variable "filex" exists and has the value "".

where testerx is a LocalFS object. This returns: ============ Variable "filex" exists and has the value "". form filex How can I find the name and the path of the filex? Please can you send me some samples (or a link) about how can be used this LocalFS product? Kind regards Mihai ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A0FB.899EB3F0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,<= /font>

I'm a new user for LocalFS product.

I have a form =

<form method=3D"POST" action=3D"processForm_localFS" enctype=3D"multipart/form-data"> =

File or Image: <input type=3D"file" name=3D"filex" value=3D"" = /> <br />

<input = type=3D"submit" name=3D"save" value=3D"Upload" /> =

</form> =

and this is evaluated = by the following DTML Method processForm_localFS : =

<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('new_id', = ZopeTime().strftime('%Y%m%d%H%M%S'))"> =

<dtml-if filex> =

<p>Variable "filex" exists and has the value "<dtml-var "_.str(REQUEST.filex)">".</p> =

</dtml-if> =

<dtml-var = REQUEST>

<dtml-comment> =

<dtml-call "testerx.manage_upload( filex, new_id )"> =

where testerx is a = LocalFS object.

This returns: =

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D

Variable = "filex" exists and has the value "".

form =

filex <ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload instance at e41414> =

How can I find the = name and the path of the filex?

Please can you send = me some samples (or a link) about how can be used

this LocalFS = product?

Kind regards =

Mihai

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A0FB.899EB3F0-- From tom.nixon@aim23.com Wed Dec 11 11:23:43 2002 From: tom.nixon@aim23.com (Tom Nixon) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:23:43 -0000 Subject: [Zope] VirtualHostMonster Message-ID: <001801c2a107$c6c92830$6401a8c0@tom> I've got a Zope site running at http://www.mydomain.com:8080/ I'm trying to use url rewriting and a virtual host monster to make the port number transparent so the site appears to run from http://www.mydomain.com What do I need to add in the mappings tab of the VHM to make this work, and how should I set up the url rewriter? T. From myzope@gmx.net Wed Dec 11 12:02:00 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:02:00 +0100 Subject: [Zope] MySQL Transaction/Locking/etc References: Message-ID: <3DF72938.3070509@gmx.net> Terry Hancock wrote: > Hi All, > Twice now I've come into what must be a fairly common problem when using SQL > databases in Zope: I simply want MySQL to give me a unique identifier and I > need to retrieve what its value is to continue using the correct record. > > The MySQL side of this is very straightforward -- I just make an > AUTO_INCREMENT field and use LAST_INSERT_ID() to get what its value was. > > I'm less sure how safe this is in Zope -- the whole point being, of course, > that when running multi-threaded, another thread *could* stick another record > into the table, so that LAST_INSERT_ID() comes up with the wrong value. As a > perhaps naive attempt to handle this in a previous application (for which the > consequences of an error were not too severe), I simply used the threading > module and acquired a lock -- I'm hoping that this will keep at least any > threads within my current Zope process from interfering. (Please forgive my > ignorance of threads if this betrays a deep misunderstanding! Corrections > will be much appreciated. ;-)). > > I can however, picture installations with more than one Zope *process* > running, but accessing the same database, which would presumeably allow > collisions under high loads. :-( > > I tried using MySQL's table-locking mechanism to do this, but the lock would > cause *all* my queries to fail -- including the ones that I was supposed to > be protecting. Since each ZSQL method can only do one query, I couldn't > figure out how to run a batch of them. Zope itself is transaction safe, and provided the database adapter and the database do the right thing and have the right capabilities, everything should work fine, without you doing anything special. The problem here might be mysql or, more specifically, what version of mysql you use. There's the zope-db list where I would ask that question. Or you could decide to go with a "real" open source database, like postgres, and never again worry about these questions ;). To be fair, I think a recent mysql version should handle that thing ok, provide you don't have too many concurrent transactions trying to write to the same table. cheers, oliver From gmartin@ets.org Wed Dec 11 13:39:50 2002 From: gmartin@ets.org (Martin, Greg (CSC)) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:39:50 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Comprehensive IIS setup Message-ID: <018664072781D51180290002A513B3A466B487@rosnt77.ets.org> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2A11A.C78E7960" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A11A.C78E7960 Content-Type: text/plain Is there a comprehensive guide somewhere for installing Zope with IIS? I'm trying to install Zope (and eventually squishdot). I find the instructions for doing so a bit vague. Thanks \\Greg <\\Greg> ************************************************************************** This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you for your compliance. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A11A.C78E7960 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comprehensive IIS setup

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A11A.C78E7960-- --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From douwe@oberon.nl Wed Dec 11 13:41:28 2002 From: douwe@oberon.nl (douwe@oberon.nl) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:41:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Session length In-Reply-To: <3D3F2934.FEA8DCC@nipltd.com> Message-ID: Hi, Is there anyway to use the Session Data Manager or a related component to measure the length of a session? What I actually would like is an event that fires the moment a session expires and one that fires the moment a session is initiated (well, the last thing you could do by inserting something in the session and checking whether it already was there). Douwe From jens@zope.com Wed Dec 11 13:58:27 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Comprehensive IIS setup In-Reply-To: <018664072781D51180290002A513B3A466B487@rosnt77.ets.org> Message-ID: <9F4B16F4-0D10-11D7-84F4-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> if you have any choice in the matter at all i suggest you save yourself=20= a ton of grief and install apache for windows instead... jens On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 08:39 US/Eastern, Martin, Greg (CSC)=20 wrote: > Is there a comprehensive guide somewhere for installing Zope with IIS?=20= > I'm trying to install Zope (and eventually squishdot).=A0 I find the=20= > instructions for doing so a bit vague.=A0 > > Thanks > > \\Greg From alet@librelogiciel.com Wed Dec 11 14:03:29 2002 From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:03:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Audio tracks about Zope Message-ID: <20021211140329.GE29663@mail.librelogiciel.com> Hi, On November 23 2001, there was a Zope meeting at Net4Any Paris, with Paul Everitt. As announced here : http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2001-12-03 parts of this meeting were recorded in MP3 format and made available from the links listed here : http://www.comlounge.net/pipermail/eurozope/2001-November/001085.html These tracks are still available, as well as the zopeintro-1.mp3 and zopeintro-2.mp3 situated at the same place. Since I plan to modify this audio server's config this week, please download the files if you want to keep them elsewhere, otherwise they'll be deleted probably on Friday or without further notification. Thanks in advance. Jerome Alet From t.runge@newage-avkseg.com Wed Dec 11 14:04:18 2002 From: t.runge@newage-avkseg.com (Thomas Runge) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:04:18 +0100 Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference Message-ID: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> Hi! Using "export", it seems to be easy to do a "backup" of content within Zope. But to do this, I have to log in (of course I have to supply user-name and password) before selecting my object to backup and selecting "Export". So I will have to do every "backup" manually... Is there any way to "script" this, so a backup can be done automatically? --- Thanks. Thomas From giuseppe.bonelli@tiscali.it Wed Dec 11 14:04:22 2002 From: giuseppe.bonelli@tiscali.it (Giuseppe Bonelli) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:04:22 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog: sorting on multiple indexes Message-ID: Hi all, this appears to be an old question, but I have not found any reply on = the mailing list archives. Is there any trick to sort the results from ZCatalog on two or more = indexes ? TIA, --peppo=20 From list@zettai.net Wed Dec 11 14:18:03 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:18:03 -0500 Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference In-Reply-To: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> Message-ID: with wget you can pass in username and password but i haven't tried to do exports this way. let us know if it works. :) for example: /usr/bin/wget -O - --http-user=username --http-passwd=password localhost/path/to/url/to/call and then cron it. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: "Thomas Runge" > Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:04:18 +0100 > To: > Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference > > Hi! > Using "export", it seems to be easy to do a "backup" of content within Zope. > > But to do this, I have to log in (of course I have to supply user-name and > password) before selecting my object to backup and selecting "Export". So I > will have to do every "backup" manually... > > Is there any way to "script" this, so a backup can be done automatically? > > --- Thanks. > Thomas From tino@wildenhain.de Wed Dec 11 14:26:03 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:26:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference In-Reply-To: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> References: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> Message-ID: <26847204.1039620363@liza> Hi Thomas, --On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:04 +0100 Thomas Runge wrote: > Hi! > Using "export", it seems to be easy to do a "backup" of content within > Zope. > > But to do this, I have to log in (of course I have to supply user-name and > password) before selecting my object to backup and selecting "Export". So > I will have to do every "backup" manually... > > Is there any way to "script" this, so a backup can be done automatically? Sure. But its more easy if you just copy your Data.fs(-es) to a save place. This can be done online, e.g. without stopping Zope. Most people do so with a simple cron job. Regards Tino From felix@chaptereight.com Wed Dec 11 14:25:41 2002 From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:25:41 +0000 Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference In-Reply-To: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> References: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> Message-ID: <20021211142541.GA2037@zaphod.chaptereight.com> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:04:18PM +0100, Thomas Runge wrote: > But to do this, I have to log in (of course I have to supply user-name and > password) before selecting my object to backup and selecting "Export". So I > will have to do every "backup" manually... > > Is there any way to "script" this, so a backup can be done automatically? If you google for "zope backup howto" you'd find this: http://www.zope.org/Members/dlutzy/Zope_backup_meta-howto which is a list of backup-related links. If you have access to the server on which Zope is running, you would probably be better off just backing up your ZOPE_DIR/var/Data.fs file, which works really easily as all changes are appended at the end so you can just copy/scp/rsync it even while Zope is running. As for scripting it - use cron or windows task scheduler and write a script that copies the file. If you don't have access to the server, and you really need to use the export function, you should be able to pass the user/pass with a command-line HTTP client like wget, so you can still do it from a script, e.g.: $ wget --http-user="donald" --http-password="duck" http://myserver.com:8080/manage_exportObject?id=some_folder&download:int=1 Sorry, I don't know the windows equivalent. Hope that helps, Felix. From ken@cleveland.lug.net Wed Dec 11 14:27:07 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:27:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory In-Reply-To: <15862.15850.754911.374348@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: Dieter Maurer at 20:18 (UTC+0100) on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 said: = Terry writes: = > The memory used by python getting more and more. = > Is that a normal behavoir. = > = > In beginning I start Zope. = > the python use about 26M memory. = > = > After several hours = > get the result by "top" = > Sort by memory usage = > = > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND = > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python = > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python = > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python = > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python = > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python = > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python = > = > Have any idea why? For easier reading, I inserted spaces in the above top output. Hope this didn't mess it up for someone else. Maybe I'm missing something, but I see the %MEM staying at 10.4; SHARE and SIZE are likewise staying the same. Seems that it's behaving itself quite well. Or...? ken From felix@chaptereight.com Wed Dec 11 14:36:19 2002 From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:36:19 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory In-Reply-To: References: <15862.15850.754911.374348@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <20021211143619.GC2037@zaphod.chaptereight.com> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:27:07AM -0500, ken wrote: > Dieter Maurer at 20:18 (UTC+0100) on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 said: > = Terry writes: > = > In beginning I start Zope. > = > the python use about 26M memory. > = > > = > After several hours > = > get the result by "top" > = > Sort by memory usage > = > > = > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > = > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python > = > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python > = > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python > = > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python > = > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python > = > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python > = > > = > Have any idea why? > > For easier reading, I inserted spaces in the above top output. Hope > this didn't mess it up for someone else. That's much prettier. > Maybe I'm missing something, but I see the %MEM staying at 10.4; SHARE > and SIZE are likewise staying the same. Seems that it's behaving itself > quite well. Or...? I think the listing is a snapshot at one time - the lines are the different threads and the memory figures are in fact shared memory. The percentage is 10.4, but the actual size is 94M, which compared to 26M at the beginning is a sizeable increase. Felix. From mlong@datalong.com Wed Dec 11 14:38:49 2002 From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:38:49 -0500 Subject: [Zope] MySQL Transaction/Locking/etc Message-ID: I believe that your premise that ZSQL can only do one query is false. I am able to handle this exact situation (using postgres) with the following in a single ZSQL method: insert into mytable(id,col1,col2) values(nextval('seq_id'),val1, val2); select curval('seq_id'); This will cause the ZSQL method to return the newly inserted id to you and this all happens within a single transaction. -mike > Hi All, > Twice now I've come into what must be a fairly common problem when using SQL > databases in Zope: I simply want MySQL to give me a unique identifier and I > need to retrieve what its value is to continue using the correct record. > > The MySQL side of this is very straightforward -- I just make an > AUTO_INCREMENT field and use LAST_INSERT_ID() to get what its value was. > > I'm less sure how safe this is in Zope -- the whole point being, of course, > that when running multi-threaded, another thread *could* stick another record > into the table, so that LAST_INSERT_ID() comes up with the wrong value. As a > perhaps naive attempt to handle this in a previous application (for which the > consequences of an error were not too severe), I simply used the threading > module and acquired a lock -- I'm hoping that this will keep at least any > threads within my current Zope process from interfering. (Please forgive my > ignorance of threads if this betrays a deep misunderstanding! Corrections > will be much appreciated. ;-)). > > I can however, picture installations with more than one Zope *process* > running, but accessing the same database, which would presumeably allow > collisions under high loads. :-( > > I tried using MySQL's table-locking mechanism to do this, but the lock would > cause *all* my queries to fail -- including the ones that I was supposed to > be protecting. Since each ZSQL method can only do one query, I couldn't > figure out how to run a batch of them. > > MySQL can do transactional tables nowadays, but I'm not sure if they would > actually make sense for this application -- this "get a unique new record id" > function is the only thing I really need to do this way. And I'm not even > sure that transactions would be proof against this (would transactions stop > the LAST_INSERT_ID() being incremented in the middle of the transaction? It > doesn't seem like it would actually violate the transaction model to do that). > > There doesn't seem to be much on the Zope website or in the ZDG about how to > deal with this situation (or perhaps I don't know what to search for). Has > anyone else solved it? Is the thread-locking solution adequate, or is there > a better way? > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Terry > > -- > Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) > Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com > > "Some things are too important to be taken seriously" > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > From tino@wildenhain.de Wed Dec 11 14:50:35 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:50:35 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: [ez] Audio tracks about Zope In-Reply-To: <20021211140329.GE29663@mail.librelogiciel.com> References: <20021211140329.GE29663@mail.librelogiciel.com> Message-ID: <28319481.1039621835@liza> Hi, --On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:03 +0100 Jerome Alet wrote: > Hi, > > On November 23 2001, there was a Zope meeting at Net4Any Paris, > with Paul Everitt. > > As announced here : > > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2001-12-03 > > parts of this meeting were recorded in MP3 format and > made available from the links listed here : > > http://www.comlounge.net/pipermail/eurozope/2001-November/001085.html > > These tracks are still available, as well as the zopeintro-1.mp3 and > zopeintro-2.mp3 situated at the same place. > > Since I plan to modify this audio server's config this week, please > download the files if you want to keep them elsewhere, otherwise > they'll be deleted probably on Friday or without further notification. > Could you please modify the download URLs on the site? The hostname without domain is not useable ;) I've worked a bit on the files and normalized the volume. If anyone cares and I'm allowed to, I can make them available elsewhere. Regards Tino From alet@librelogiciel.com Wed Dec 11 14:46:28 2002 From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:46:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: [ez] Audio tracks about Zope In-Reply-To: <28319481.1039621835@liza> References: <20021211140329.GE29663@mail.librelogiciel.com> <28319481.1039621835@liza> Message-ID: <20021211144628.GA30256@mail.librelogiciel.com> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:50:35PM +0100, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > > > Could you please modify the download URLs on the site? The hostname > without domain is not useable ;) unfortunately not, I made a mistake when posting the message but it is now in the eurozope's mailing list archives and I can't do anything about it. anyway the server's name is : stream.unice.fr > I've worked a bit on the files and normalized the volume. If anyone > cares and I'm allowed to, I can make them available elsewhere. I don't know of any restriction, but maybe the persons who were present see a problem (I wasn't at net4any, just at the server end) bye, Jerome Alet From nuno@xml.pt Wed Dec 11 14:58:21 2002 From: nuno@xml.pt (Nuno Maltez) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:58:21 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Page Templates Message-ID: <200212111458.21530.nuno@xml.pt> Hi, We're building a site using ZPT and we're facing a problem. The pages are in Portuguese, and therefore we have text in some attributes with character entities like for instance água

This seems to be the correct HTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#encodings These tags don't have tal: attributes, however Zope always converts the character entity's ampersand into &alt;, rendering the above example as água

which is nonsense. Is there anyway to prevent this? We're using Zope 2.5.1 Thanks in advance, Nuno From roel@planetinterior.com Wed Dec 11 14:55:56 2002 From: roel@planetinterior.com (Roel Van den Bergh) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:55:56 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <20021211141944.28764.73518.Mailman@mail.python.org> Message-ID: Here are some stats to add :-) Dell PowerApp 120 Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) Dual 1Ghz, 1GB PC133 ECC SDRAM running in single proccessor mode [root@root]# python /home/zope/2-5-0/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.87 This machine benchmarks at 11494.3 pystones/second [root@root]# python /home/Python-2.1.3/Lib/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.86 This machine benchmarks at 11627.9 pystones/second [root@root]# python /usr/lib/python1.5/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.85 This machine benchmarks at 11764.7 pystones/second [root@root]# python /usr/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.86 This machine benchmarks at 11627.9 pystones/second [root@root]# python /usr/local/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.87 This machine benchmarks at 11494.3 pystones/second [root@root]# python /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/Python-2.1.3/Lib/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.85 This machine benchmarks at 11764.7 pystones/second Roel. From Ruslan Spivak Wed Dec 11 15:05:16 2002 From: Ruslan Spivak (Ruslan Spivak) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:05:16 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Calling sql method from FS product Message-ID: <8225714185.20021211170516@is.lg.ua> Hello zope users, need your help: how to call sql method from the filesystem product? should i create this sql method through the web before, or is it possible to call sql directly from product code? Your help is very, very appreciated. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Ruslan mailto:alienoid@is.lg.ua From antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com Wed Dec 11 15:10:44 2002 From: antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com (Antonio Beamud Montero) Date: 11 Dec 2002 16:10:44 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Auto-documenting Zope Products Message-ID: <1039619445.29552.6.camel@praga.agora-2000.com> Hi all: I want to document all my products with pydoc. I have patched the source code to works fine with zope code and I have run the zdoc.py script, but zdoc.py fail's and said something like: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/zdoc.py", line 5, in ? import Zope File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py", line 43, in ? DB=ZODB.FileStorage.FileStorage(Globals.BobobaseName,read_only=_isReadOnly()) File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 200, in __init__ raise ValueError, "can\'t create a read-only file" ValueError: can't create a read-only file What can I do? Exists other tool? Thanks... -- Microsoft merges technologies: Windows CE + Windows ME + Windows NT = Windows CEMENT ---- Antonio Beamud Montero Agora Systems S.A. http://www.agoratechnologies.com From Stacy.Roberts@noaa.gov Wed Dec 11 15:18:41 2002 From: Stacy.Roberts@noaa.gov (Stacy Roberts Ladnier) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:18:41 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Changing the properties contained in the default PropertySheets Message-ID: <3DF75751.6B4526CE@noaa.gov> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2ABF76352BC526B58DCAE25F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have created a custom view for the properties of my python product object. I allow the user to change the properties in the custom form. After the user if finished editing the properties, he clicks on the Save Changes button. This calls on a dtml method that calls the manage_changeProperties(REQUEST) function. However, the changes are never made to the actual properties of the object. I have tried several different ways and still fail. I would greatly appreciate any guidance provided. Stacy --------------2ABF76352BC526B58DCAE25F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Stacy.Ladnier.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stacy Ladnier Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Stacy.Ladnier.vcf" begin:vcard n:Ladnier;Stacy tel;work:228-688-1878 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Anteon/NCDDC adr:;;;Stennis Space Center;MS;; version:2.1 email;internet:Stacy.Ladnier@noaa.gov title:Software Engineer fn:Stacy Ladnier, SCJP2, SCJD2 end:vcard --------------2ABF76352BC526B58DCAE25F-- From sabaini@inode.at Wed Dec 11 15:29:10 2002 From: sabaini@inode.at (peter sabaini) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:29:10 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Calling sql method from FS product In-Reply-To: <8225714185.20021211170516@is.lg.ua> References: <8225714185.20021211170516@is.lg.ua> Message-ID: <3DF759C6.1030401@inode.at> I usually add ZSQL Methods as attributes of my class, eg.: from Products.ZSQLMethods.SQL import SQL class myProduct(Acquisition.Implicit): flushLogData = SQL('flushLogData', 'Flush the access data to the RDBMS', 'database_connection', 'logData:string', '''execute flushLogData @logData= ''', ) The database connection is passed as a string; the SQL class has to able to find it via acqusition (hence I inherit from Acquisition.Implicit). For details see the Products.ZSQLMethods.SQL.SQL class cheers, peter. Ruslan Spivak wrote: > Hello zope users, > > need your help: how to call sql method from the filesystem product? > should i create this sql method through the web before, or is it > possible to call sql directly from product code? > > Your help is very, very appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > > Best regards, > Ruslan mailto:alienoid@is.lg.ua > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > From pw_lists@slinkp.com Wed Dec 11 15:59:29 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:59:29 -0800 Subject: [Zope] localfs In-Reply-To: <2429FB79DCF4194983FD5926D6F98BEE0878D609@dstrem02.ditscom.dsh.de> References: <2429FB79DCF4194983FD5926D6F98BEE0878D609@dstrem02.ditscom.dsh.de> Message-ID: <20021211155929.GA12103@slinkp.com> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 10:56:12AM +0100, Coanda, Mihai wrote: > How can I find the name and the path of the filex? Did you not get the answer I already posted to this list? name: filex.filename path: if you mean the path it came from on the filesystem, you can't. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From camicucci@calamuchitanet.com.ar Wed Dec 11 16:09:28 2002 From: camicucci@calamuchitanet.com.ar (Carlos Alberto Micucci) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:09:28 -0300 Subject: [Zope] ASCII decoding error Message-ID: <000801c2a12f$b162eb20$881b5640@home2002> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2A116.8956BA30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I', developing a new product and when I'm navigate the manage_edit page = and submitt, this error ocurred: Error Type: UnicodeError Error Value: ASCII decoding error: ordinal not in range(128) I've not idea about this, but in my Zope 2.5 instalation does not = ocurred. Can you help me? Thanks. Ing. 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I', developing a new product and when = I'm navigate=20 the manage_edit page and submitt, this error ocurred:

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I've not idea about this, but in my = Zope 2.5=20 instalation does not ocurred.

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2A116.8956BA30-- --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From t.runge@newage-avkseg.com Wed Dec 11 16:33:55 2002 From: t.runge@newage-avkseg.com (Thomas Runge) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:33:55 +0100 Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c2a133$19ff7010$2334a8c0@RUNGE> Hi George, > > with wget you can pass in username and password but i haven't > tried to do > exports this way. let us know if it works. :) > > for example: > > /usr/bin/wget -O - --http-user=username --http-passwd=password > localhost/path/to/url/to/call I just gave "wget" a try and it works fine! Thanks a lot! Doing a Zope-Backup via "export" IMHO seems to be better than copying fs.var, because fs.var normally is growing fast... --Thomas From andrew@logicalprogression.net Wed Dec 11 16:51:45 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:51:45 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Calling sql method from FS product In-Reply-To: <8225714185.20021211170516@is.lg.ua> Message-ID: > need your help: how to call sql method from the filesystem product? Call it by: result=self.queryTable() Then you've got len(result) or result.tuples() or result.dictionaries() or result[row][column] or even result.asRDB() to look at. > should i create this sql method through the web before, or is it > possible to call sql directly from product code? To create the method: from ZSQLMethods.SQL import SQL self._setObject('queryTable', SQL('queryTable', 'title', 'database connection', 'parameters if any', 'sql query')) Queries on relational databases are best going to zope-db@zope.org A -- Logical Progression Ltd, 3 Randolph Crescent, Edinburgh, EH3 7TH, UK Tel: +44 (0)131 466 9585 Web: http://www.logicalprogression.net/ From andy@agmweb.ca Wed Dec 11 16:52:59 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:52:59 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Comprehensive IIS setup References: <018664072781D51180290002A513B3A466B487@rosnt77.ets.org> Message-ID: <003a01c2a135$c2d2f8e0$0201a8c0@main> Unfortunately there are no such instructions, we are trying to come up with a best practice for Plone (which should be the same best practice for Zope). Some combination of the ASP 404 script and FSCacheManager or IIS Rewrites http://www.zope.org/Members/volkerw/Zope%20behind%20IIS. If you finding something that works great, we'd love to know about it. -- Andy McKay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin, Greg (CSC)" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:39 AM Subject: [Zope] Comprehensive IIS setup > Is there a comprehensive guide somewhere for installing Zope with IIS? I'm > trying to install Zope (and eventually squishdot). I find the instructions > for doing so a bit vague. > > Thanks > > \\Greg <\\Greg> > > > > > ************************************************************************** > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain privileged or > confidential information. It is solely for use by the individual for whom > it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. If you received this e-mail > in error, please notify the sender; do not disclose, copy, distribute, or > take any action in reliance on the contents of this information; and delete > it from your system. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. Thank you > for your compliance. > > > > From andrew@logicalprogression.net Wed Dec 11 16:56:17 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:56:17 +0000 Subject: [Zope] MySQL Transaction/Locking/etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > There doesn't seem to be much on the Zope website or in the ZDG about how to > deal with this situation (or perhaps I don't know what to search for). Has > anyone else solved it? Is the thread-locking solution adequate, or is there > a better way? I am working on the chapter in the Zope Book at the moment on this. > I'm less sure how safe this is in Zope -- the whole point being, of course, > that when running multi-threaded, another thread *could* stick another record > into the table, so that LAST_INSERT_ID() comes up with the wrong value. You're safe on this - Zope bundles the whole query into a transaction for you automatically. I'm a Postgres user so I don't know MySQL so well but from what I've read it should handle it fine nowadays. A -- Logical Progression Ltd, 3 Randolph Crescent, Edinburgh, EH3 7TH, UK Tel: +44 (0)131 466 9585 Web: http://www.logicalprogression.net/ From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU Wed Dec 11 16:55:08 2002 From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:55:08 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Session length Message-ID: <200212111655.IAA12142@sumeru.stanford.EDU> > > Is there anyway to use the Session Data Manager or a related component to > measure the length of a session? What I actually would like is an event that > fires the moment a session expires and one that fires the moment a session > is initiated (well, the last thing you could do by inserting something in > the session and checking whether it already was there). > The session_data object (in the temp folder) has hooks for session start and stop. These hooks are also available through the API. Read the Zope Book (2nd edition -- on-line) about sessions for more info. From evan@4-am.com Wed Dec 11 16:58:57 2002 From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:58:57 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Re: VirtualHostMonster In-Reply-To: <001801c2a107$c6c92830$6401a8c0@tom> References: <001801c2a107$c6c92830$6401a8c0@tom> Message-ID: <3DF76ED1.30202@4-am.com> Tom Nixon wrote: > I've got a Zope site running at http://www.mydomain.com:8080/ > > I'm trying to use url rewriting and a virtual host monster to make the > port number transparent so the site appears to run from > http://www.mydomain.com > > What do I need to add in the mappings tab of the VHM to make this work, > and how should I set up the url rewriter? There was a bug in VHM's Mappings tab (now fixed in CVS) that breaks this, but it *would* be the following: www.mydomain.com:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.mydomain.com:80/ On the other hand, if you're already rewriting/proxying to get from port 80 to port 8080, you don't *need* the Mappings tab. Just add the "/VirtualHostBase/http/www.mydomain.com:80/" to the front of the path on each URL you rewrite/proxy. Cheers, Evan @ 4-am From hawkfish@electricfish.com Wed Dec 11 17:34:41 2002 From: hawkfish@electricfish.com (Richard Wesley) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:34:41 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: <3DF68A08.3020601@gmx.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021210162845.02043e98@mail.grenna.net> <3DF68A08.3020601@gmx.net> Message-ID: A few days ago I mentioned a problem I was having with MySQLDA assuming that datetime data types are stored in the time zone used by Zope (rather than GMT) and asked if there was a good solution to this problem. Unfortunately, no one seems to have dealt with this before, so I am muddling through to a solution myself. The next quick fix would seem to be changing the time zone that Zope thinks it is running in to GMT. Is there a way to configure this or do I have to change the machine's time zone? TIA, Sincerely, Richard Wesley Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 (f) +1-206-493-1697 From Bryan@capitanoweb.com Wed Dec 11 17:04:47 2002 From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 09:04:47 -0800 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? Message-ID: Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the non-technical types to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see anything like this for Zope yet. Nothing in the mailling list archives either. Any ideas, hints, or road signs about this matter? Thanks for any help, Bryan Bryan R. Capitano President, CAPITANO WEb CONSULTING Tel: 541-344-0747 Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com URL: http://www.capitanoweb.com From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Wed Dec 11 17:51:07 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:51:07 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <000801c2a0f9$addfc760$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> References: <200212111129.32420.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <000801c2a0f9$addfc760$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> Message-ID: <200212111951.07327.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Wednesday 11 December 2002 11:42, Lennart Regebro wrote: > Nah. I bought my computer this July, and I have an ASUS board, as you > recommended, and it was much cheaper "per pystone" than Intel. If I > remember correctly I lowered the price a good $200 as compared to using > Intel-stuff, even though I got faster memory and all. Hmm... Depends where you bought it! ;-) Also not processor / mbd only. Th= ere=20 is a HDD where probably you want SCSII, there is cool Graphic Card, etc. By the way, do you recommend AMD? ;-) --=20 Regards, Bogdan Win32-API is wonderful : Full of things to wonder about... From mj@zope.com Wed Dec 11 18:02:56 2002 From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:02:56 -0500 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:04:47AM -0800, Bryan Capitano wrote: > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" > in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the non-technical types > to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see anything like this for > Zope yet. > > Nothing in the mailling list archives either. > > Any ideas, hints, or road signs about this matter? You can either use WebDAV enabled editors (Go-Live or Dreamweaver both support WebDAV), or use the ExternalEditor product to open objects for editing in a WYSIWYG editor. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:mj@zope.com | Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ --------------------------------------------- From mail@peterbe.com Wed Dec 11 18:10:03 2002 From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:10:03 +0000 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> References: Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211180740.01e97248@mail.grenna.net> At 13:02 2002-12-11 -0500, Martijn Pieters wrote: >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:04:47AM -0800, Bryan Capitano wrote: > > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" > > in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the non-technical types > > to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see anything like > this for > > Zope yet. It's called IEMethod. I fear that it is difficult to find on zope.org, but use a bit of google and note that the author is called johanc. If this is not what you're looking for, examine ExternalEditor like Martijn suggested. > > > > Nothing in the mailling list archives either. > > > > Any ideas, hints, or road signs about this matter? > >You can either use WebDAV enabled editors (Go-Live or Dreamweaver both >support WebDAV), or use the ExternalEditor product to open objects for >editing in a WYSIWYG editor. > >-- >Martijn Pieters >| Software Engineer mailto:mj@zope.com >| Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com/ >| Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ >--------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From vattekat.babu@verizon.net Wed Dec 11 19:36:36 2002 From: vattekat.babu@verizon.net (Satheesh Babu) Date: 11 Dec 2002 14:36:36 -0500 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039635396.2327.1.camel@toshiba.leesburg.pike> I wrote one that can be used with IE5 or above on windows. you can attach it to any textarea with few lines of code. http://vsbabu.org/webdev/zopedev/ieeditor.html On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 12:04, Bryan Capitano wrote: > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" > in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the non-technical types > to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see anything like this for > Zope yet. > > Nothing in the mailling list archives either. > > Any ideas, hints, or road signs about this matter? > Thanks for any help, > > Bryan > > > > Bryan R. Capitano > President, > CAPITANO WEb CONSULTING > Tel: 541-344-0747 > Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com > URL: http://www.capitanoweb.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Wed Dec 11 19:55:20 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:55:20 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy References: <3DF24FFF.ECE50397@rasselstein-hoesch.de> <123563725.1039340181@liza> <3DF306B6.89DEEF79@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: <3DF79828.319F511F@rasselstein-hoesch.de> I have detected in the apache log a HTTP-Response 500 What could that mean ? Has Apache a problem to connect to Zope ? Is Zope not responding, or has Apache an internal problem ? Dirk Datzert schrieb: > > Tino Wildenhain schrieb: > > > > Hi Dirk, > > > > --On Samstag, 7. Dezember 2002 20:46 +0100 Dirk Datzert > > wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a strange connection problem with Zope + Apache + mod_proxy. > > > > > > Sometimes users click on links in their browsers (regardsless > > > which browser: IE 5.5 or Netscape 4.7). The browser waits for data, > > > but nothing comes back. If the user stopps the transfer and click > > > on the link again the transfer will be done immediatly. > > > > Can you tell us what versions of the programs you have? > > Apache version / mod_proxy 1.3.19 > Zope version 2.3.3 > > > Did you try to access your zope application directly > > to compare the behavior? > > Yes, but the error can't be repeated with or without apache. > Sometimes it works for a long time until next transfer is blocked. > And testing with zope directly I didn't saw this blocking, but > maybe the time was to short to see it. > > > May be you can use > > ethereal or tcpflow to debug this further e.g. who is causing > > the problem and when. > > Is there any thing in the apache log file, compared to the z2.log > > etc. > > Will look next time! Good idea. > > Regards, > Dirk From johanc@easypublisher.com Wed Dec 11 20:54:07 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:54:07 +0100 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021211180740.01e97248@mail.grenna.net> References: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021211214055.00a60c70@prue.torped.se> At 18:10 2002-12-11 +0000, Peter Bengtsson said: >At 13:02 2002-12-11 -0500, Martijn Pieters wrote: >>On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:04:47AM -0800, Bryan Capitano wrote: >> > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? >> > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big= boys" >> > in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the non-technical= types >> > to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see anything like=20 >> this for >> > Zope yet. > >It's called IEMethod. >I fear that it is difficult to find on zope.org, but use a bit of google=20 >and note that the author is called johanc. IEMethod is not supported or developed on in anyway. Not by m anyway ;-) But there are several clones of my initial work out= there so google on zope and wysiwyg would result in some hits. Of course we have a Wysiwyg-editor Easy Publisher, but it is a whole CMS with its own template system, not a generic WYSIWYG-editor. Download a free personal (v .1.6) copy from: http://www.easypublisher.com or ask me for an eval (v.1.7) For more generic work the content editable feature of Internet Explorer is= =20 quite easy to use. And it shouldn't be hard to add some kind of generic editor to a Zope-site (you would lack proper linking and image dialogs and table=20 support) but for editing simple texts it would work fine. You should also have a look at http://xopus.org/ who is developing a (open= =20 source) version of the IE content editable feature. They also have a commercial= editor, which I doubt works with Zope ;-) xopus.org's content editable patch has allot of features missing, but is a= =20 rather elegant example how well adaptable Mozilla is. (Compared to the monstrous= IE) The Mozilla-team has a native content editable feature in the bugzila but=20 I'm not sure when it's accually going to be implemented. Regards, Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From David.Bear@asu.edu Wed Dec 11 21:19:56 2002 From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com>; from mj@zope.com on Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:02:56PM -0500 References: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> Message-ID: <20021211141956.A9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Martijn Pieters wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:04:47AM -0800, Bryan Capitano wrote: > > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" > > You can either use WebDAV enabled editors (Go-Live or Dreamweaver both > support WebDAV), or use the ExternalEditor product to open objects for > editing in a WYSIWYG editor. > What happens when usings webDAV to edit structured documents? Do you get the unrendered doc, or the full html? I tried using the mickeysoft web folder and I got the rendered version -- so is there a way to get the plain form? Also, since I would rather use linux, I was hoping there was cadaver attachments to the kde file manager or emacs. Current search yield nothing on the first, and 'not yet' on the second. -- David Bear College of Public Programs/ASU Mail Code 0803 From sabaini@inode.at Wed Dec 11 23:17:08 2002 From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:17:08 +0100 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <20021211141956.A9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> <20021211141956.A9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF7C774.6040005@inode.at> David Bear wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Martijn Pieters wrote: > >>On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:04:47AM -0800, Bryan Capitano wrote: >> >>>Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? >>>Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" >> >>You can either use WebDAV enabled editors (Go-Live or Dreamweaver both >>support WebDAV), or use the ExternalEditor product to open objects for >>editing in a WYSIWYG editor. >> > > > What happens when usings webDAV to edit structured documents? Do you get the unrendered doc, or the full html? I tried using the mickeysoft web folder and I got the rendered version -- so is there a way to get the plain form? You can configure a "source port" where content won't get rendered. To quote z2.py: """ -W port The "WebDAV source" port. If this is a dash (e.g. -w -), then "WebDAV source" is disabled. The default is disabled. Note that this feature is a workaround for the lack of "source-link" support in standard WebDAV clients. """ > Also, since I would rather use linux, I was hoping there was cadaver attachments to the kde file manager or emacs. Current search yield nothing on the first, and 'not yet' on the second. There used to be davfs (a mountable WebDAV filesystem) but somehow I can't find it at the moment. Before External Editor I used the EFS package for XEmacs and it worked quite well; now I just use External Editor with XEmacs in gnuserv mode which just rocks -- the perfect combination of creating & configuring with the ZMI and editing (with XEmacs / gnuclient). have fun, peter. > > -- > > David Bear > College of Public Programs/ASU > Mail Code 0803 > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > From davis@mccalldesign.com Wed Dec 11 22:20:19 2002 From: davis@mccalldesign.com (Davis Marques) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:20:19 -0800 Subject: [Zope] increment value of self Message-ID: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A120.6FB2CF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having a lot of problems with this one . I have an object (A) that has a method called increment, and a variable in the Basic propertysheet called count. I'd like other objects to be able to call that method, so that the A object increments the value of count + 1 when requested. The problem I'm having is that any other variables present in REQUEST are then also assigned to A. Here's what I have so far: """ increment """ c = context.count + 1 context.REQUEST.set('count',c) context.propertysheets.Basic.manage_editProperties(context.REQUEST) ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A120.6FB2CF10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2A120.6FB2CF10-- From sabaini@inode.at Wed Dec 11 23:37:16 2002 From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:37:16 +0000 Subject: [Zope] increment value of self In-Reply-To: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> References: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> Message-ID: <3DF7CC2C.70606@inode.at> Use manage_changeProperties() instead Details: lib/python/OFS/PropertyManager.py cheers, peter. Davis Marques wrote: > I’m having a lot of problems with this one … I have an object (A) that > has a method called increment, and a variable in the Basic propertysheet > called count. I’d like other objects to be able to call that method, so > that the A object increments the value of count + 1 when requested. > > > > The problem I’m having is that any other variables present in REQUEST > are then also assigned to A. > > > > Here’s what I have so far: > > > > “”” > > increment > > “”” > > > > c = context.count + 1 > > context.REQUEST.set(‘count’,c) > > context.propertysheets.Basic.manage_editProperties(context.REQUEST) > > > From tino@wildenhain.de Wed Dec 11 22:48:29 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:48:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] increment value of self In-Reply-To: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> References: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> Message-ID: <12885358.1039650509@liza> Hi Davis, --On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 14:20 -0800 Davis Marques wrote: > > > I'm having a lot of problems with this one ... I have an object (A) that > has a method called increment, and a variable in the Basic propertysheet > called count. I'd like other objects to be able to call that method, so > that the A object increments the value of count + 1 when requested. > > > > The problem I'm having is that any other variables present in REQUEST are > then also assigned to A. > > > > Here's what I have so far: > > > > """ > > increment > > """ > > > > c = context.count + 1 > > context.REQUEST.set('count',c) > > context.propertysheets.Basic.manage_editProperties(context.REQUEST) > > contest.propertysheets.Basic.manage_editProperties({'count':context.count+1 }) Btw. You should not even think of using this construct as a hit-counter as, beside such counters suck anyway, you will bloat out your Data.fs :-) (Every single change gets stored) Regards Tino From toman@marge.cyber-dyne.com Wed Dec 11 22:42:04 2002 From: toman@marge.cyber-dyne.com (toman) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:42:04 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Win32, Zope and FTP Message-ID: <3DF7BF3C.9000400@marge.cyber-dyne.com> I'm trying to put together a collaboration app that allows users to share large datasets. When I ftp the data, which has numerous folders and large (~100Meg) and small files in them, to a Zope 2.6.0 server running on Windows XP, it will transfer many but not all of the datasets. Then if I try to make another object, say a folder, through ftp or the management screens, the server hangs. The same test on a Linux box running Mandrake 8.something doesn't show this problem at all. Ideas? I would guess that it's a threading problem, mostly because in my experience threads suck on Windows, but I don't know enough about the Zope internals to prove it. Changing the backend from FileStorage to DirectoryStorage(lawn) didn't seem to change the behavior either. Any help, yada yada... J. Toman From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Wed Dec 11 22:36:01 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:36:01 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: increment value of self In-Reply-To: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> References: <000001c2a163$7dd60f10$15938cc6@ARRIS19> Message-ID: Davis Marques wrote: > I’m having a lot of problems with this one … I have an object (A) that > has a method called increment, and a variable in the Basic propertysheet > called count. I’d like other objects to be able to call that method, so > that the A object increments the value of count + 1 when requested. > > The problem I’m having is that any other variables present in REQUEST > are then also assigned to A. > > Here’s what I have so far: > > “”” > > increment > > “”” > c = context.count + 1 > context.REQUEST.set(‘count’,c) > context.propertysheets.Basic.manage_editProperties(context.REQUEST) please try something like this: context.propertysheets.Basic.manage_changeProperties({'count':context.count+1}) -mj From ken@cleveland.lug.net Wed Dec 11 23:31:34 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:31:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory In-Reply-To: <20021211143619.GC2037@zaphod.chaptereight.com> Message-ID: Felix Ulrich-Oltean at 14:36 (UTC-0000) on Wed, 11 Dec 2002 said: = On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:27:07AM -0500, ken wrote: = > Dieter Maurer at 20:18 (UTC+0100) on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 said: = > = Terry writes: = > = > In beginning I start Zope. = > = > the python use about 26M memory. = > = > = > = > After several hours = > = > get the result by "top" = > = > Sort by memory usage = > = > = > = > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND = > = > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python = > = > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python = > = > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python = > = > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python = > = > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python = > = > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python = > = > = > = > Have any idea why? = > ... = > Maybe I'm missing something, but I see the %MEM staying at 10.4; SHARE = > and SIZE are likewise staying the same. Seems that it's behaving itself = > quite well. Or...? = = I think the listing is a snapshot at one time - the lines are the = different threads and the memory figures are in fact shared memory. = The percentage is 10.4, but the actual size is 94M, which compared to = 26M at the beginning is a sizeable increase. = ... Working from that and looking at the second instance, we can see that process 5022 has been running for 0.00 (just started, presumably), but still has claimed 92M, the same as other processes which have been running much longer. On the face of it, this doesn't indicate a memory leak-- which would be something to be concerned about-- but that, for some reason, python thinks it requires more memory upon initiating a process. By itself, this doesn't tell us what is causing the increase in demand for memory. It would be a situation calling for diagnostics collected over time, as with sar or vmstat, and these correlated with demands made on python. Cheers, ken From myroslav@zope.net.ua Thu Dec 12 00:10:28 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 02:10:28 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <20021211080228.GA22571@codeworks.lt> References: <3DF5E83B.15967.1F7F0C43@localhost> <20021211080228.GA22571@codeworks.lt> Message-ID: <3DF7D3F4.9030707@zope.net.ua> Hi, Guido! I've found you as translator of pystones.py test into Python (from C). Can you give explanation of the below fact of running several parralel pystones.py processes and not affecting results. Is pure processing time calculated? Thank you, m. -- Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:44:18PM +0200, Myroslav Opyr wrote: > [ This was about a Dual-CPU Xeon, IIRC ] > >>>and running two pystones at once: >>> >>>[bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py & ; Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py >>>[1] 500 >>>Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.01 >>>This machine benchmarks at 19960.1 pystones/second >>>Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.02 >>>This machine benchmarks at 19920.3 pystones/second >>>[bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ >> >>Effectively doubling perfomance... > > > This is a *single* CPU Athlon (XP 1800+, 1.5 GHz) > > $ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 > This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second > > $ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py &\ > python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py &\ > python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py & > python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py > [1] 23242 > [2] 23243 > [3] 23244 > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.52 > This machine benchmarks at 19230.8 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 > This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second > This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.54 > This machine benchmarks at 18518.5 pystones/second > > They all seem to run sequentially, and the numbers do not change even if > I try to run 32 of them in parallel. > > Marius Gedminas From scott.meilicke@intp.com Thu Dec 12 00:20:20 2002 From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:20:20 -0800 Subject: [Zope] LocalFS and zCatalog Message-ID: Hello, I am trying to index files in a file system, not in zope, using LocalFS and zcatalog. I have not been successful. Is anyone doing this currently? Specifically, I can't figure out what index localfs.py would use with a zcatalog. Also, there is a warning in the localfs help about poor performance when using zcatalog support in a localfs - is this because it catalogs all content with each query, and does not actually store the results in zcatalog? Thanks - Scott The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. From vattekkat.babu@verizon.net Thu Dec 12 00:42:26 2002 From: vattekkat.babu@verizon.net (Satheesh Babu) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:42:26 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Capturing SQL Method exceptions in Python scripts Message-ID: <3DF7DB72.9000105@verizon.net> Hello, I've a python script in which I would like to call some SQL methods. Some SQL methods in question are DDL statements (alter table etc.). What I'm trying to do is to make an installer script for some patches. However, it is possible that the DDL statements might fail. How can I capture the exception type and process it? the zope-error pages come up like "sql.error: blah blah blah" try: ret = mysql() except sql.error, details print ... Normal python! But what should I REALLY use for sql.error ? Thanks in advance S Babu http://vsbabu.org/ From ken@cleveland.lug.net Thu Dec 12 00:54:45 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:54:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't know what OS you're using, but there's probably three things going on here. On typical UNIX systems-- and this includes Linux-- there's (1) a hardware clock, (2) a system clock, and then (3) whatever time the database may think it is-- (3) should be the same as (2). The default install on UNIX systems I know about set the hardware clock to GMT (changed by an international standards group to "UTC"). Part of the system configuration is setting the timezone. Different Unices do this configuration differently. MS OSs again different. I'd recommend setting the hardware clock to UTC, then set the correct timezone so that system time tells the correct local time. Then see what time the database thinks it is. Doing the quick fix you're contemplating below will come back to bite you. E.g., what are you going to do in the DST flips? No one wants the wrong time attached to their data, but, at the same time, I'm sure you don't want to sit there at 2am twice a year to change the time. I've been using Linux for ten years and for ten years it's handled the switch to/from DST perfectly. This is really the way you want to go. While you're there, look into rdate. This won't get you out of the UTC/localtime configuration; rdate fetches the correct time from time a server (my systems do this once a day) and so keeps the time on your system accurate. All of this really should be required for an enterprise system. hth, ken Richard Wesley at 09:34 (UTC-0800) on Wed, 11 Dec 2002 said: = A few days ago I mentioned a problem I was having with MySQLDA = assuming that datetime data types are stored in the time zone used by = Zope (rather than GMT) and asked if there was a good solution to this = problem. Unfortunately, no one seems to have dealt with this before, = so I am muddling through to a solution myself. = = The next quick fix would seem to be changing the time zone that Zope = thinks it is running in to GMT. Is there a way to configure this or = do I have to change the machine's time zone? = = TIA, = Sincerely, = = Richard Wesley = Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. = = (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 = (f) +1-206-493-1697 = = _______________________________________________ = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** = (Related lists - = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) = From chrism@zope.com Thu Dec 12 01:14:07 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 11 Dec 2002 20:14:07 -0500 Subject: [Zope] zope book volunteering Message-ID: <1039655649.1450.60.camel@james> I am incredibly happy to report that many folks are "signing up" to edits chapters of the Zope Book in preparation for the upcoming Zope 2.6.1 release! It's really beating the cynicism out of me! ;-) As a matter of fact, so many people are signing up that I'm getting *multiple* submissions of the same chapters! While this is a wonderful problem to have, I don't want folks to waste effort doing something that somebody else has already committed to. I have put up a page documenting signups and current status for the editing effort at http://www.zope.org/DocProjects/zope_book_signups/index_html . Hopefully this will serve as a place that I can keep track of who is doing what. Here are the chapters in the 2.6 edition of the Zope Book ( http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/index_html ) that are not yet "spoken for": Maintaining Zope Extending Zope (ZClasses) Advanced DTML Searching and Categorizing Content If anyone aspires to edit some Zope docs and get some fame and glory, the time is now. ;-) - C From chrism@zope.com Thu Dec 12 01:19:16 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 11 Dec 2002 20:19:16 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] zope book volunteering In-Reply-To: <1039655649.1450.60.camel@james> References: <1039655649.1450.60.camel@james> Message-ID: <1039655958.1450.62.camel@james> On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 20:14, Chris McDonough wrote: > Here are the chapters in the 2.6 edition of the Zope Book ( > http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/index_html ) > that are not yet "spoken for": > > Maintaining Zope > Extending Zope (ZClasses) > Advanced DTML > Searching and Categorizing Content Whoops! I think I made a mistake in the above. I think Bakhtiar Hamid picked up Extending Zope (maybe he can speak up if this isn't the case). From doug@safety.com Thu Dec 12 01:36:40 2002 From: doug@safety.com (Douglas Perry) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:36:40 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Problem starting Zope 2.6 Message-ID: I've compiled Zope 2.6 from source (RH 7.2) and I can't get it to run. I used python 2.1.3 to compile it. Zdaemon will spawn processes but those processes will send signal 11. See error log below: ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:55 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2405 ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:56 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2405 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:56 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2406 ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:57 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2406 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:57 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2407 ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:58 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2407 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:58 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2408 ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:59 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2408 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:59 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2409 ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:59 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2409 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:40:59 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2410 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:00 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2410 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:00 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2411 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:01 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2411 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:01 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2412 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:02 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2412 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:02 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2413 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:03 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2413 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:03 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2414 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:04 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2414 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:04 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2415 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:04 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2415 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:04 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2416 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:05 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2416 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:05 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2417 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:06 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2417 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:06 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2418 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:07 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2418 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:07 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2419 kial------ 2002-12-11T21:41:08 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2419 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:08 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2420 la------ 2002-12-11T21:41:09 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2420 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:09 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2421 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:09 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2421 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:09 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2422 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:10 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2422 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:10 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2423 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:11 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2423 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:11 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2424 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:12 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2424 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:12 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2425 l------ 2002-12-11T21:41:13 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2425 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:13 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:14 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2426 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:14 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2427 ki------ 2002-12-11T21:41:14 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2427 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:14 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2428 llal------ 2002-12-11T21:41:15 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2428 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:15 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2429 l py------ 2002-12-11T21:41:16 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2429 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:16 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2430 thon------ 2002-12-11T21:41:17 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2430 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:17 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2431 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:18 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2431 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:18 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2432 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:19 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2432 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:19 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2433 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:19 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2433 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:19 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2434 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:20 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2434 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:20 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2435 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:21 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2435 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:21 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2436 ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:22 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2436 terminated by signal SIGSEGV(11) ------ 2002-12-11T21:41:22 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2437 From chrism@zope.com Thu Dec 12 02:04:05 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 11 Dec 2002 21:04:05 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Problem starting Zope 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039658649.1414.64.camel@james> I saw something like this recently. Unpack, compile, install, and run Zope as a nonroot user to see if the problem goes away. On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 20:36, Douglas Perry wrote: > I've compiled Zope 2.6 from source (RH 7.2) and I can't get it to run. I > used python 2.1.3 to compile it. Zdaemon will spawn processes but those > processes will send signal 11. See error log below: > > > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:55 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2405 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:56 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2405 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:56 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2406 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:57 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2406 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:57 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2407 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:58 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2407 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:58 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2408 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:59 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2408 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:59 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2409 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:59 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2409 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:59 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2410 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:00 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2410 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:00 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2411 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:01 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2411 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:01 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2412 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:02 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2412 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:02 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2413 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:03 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2413 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:03 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2414 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:04 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2414 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:04 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2415 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:04 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2415 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:04 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2416 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:05 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2416 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:05 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2417 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:06 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2417 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:06 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2418 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:07 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2418 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:07 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2419 > kial------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:08 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2419 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:08 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2420 > la------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:09 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2420 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:09 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2421 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:09 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2421 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:09 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2422 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:10 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2422 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:10 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2423 > > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:11 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2423 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:11 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2424 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:12 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2424 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:12 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2425 > l------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:13 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2425 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:13 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:14 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2426 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:14 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2427 > ki------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:14 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2427 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:14 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2428 > llal------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:15 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2428 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:15 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2429 > l py------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:16 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2429 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:16 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2430 > thon------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:17 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2430 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:17 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2431 > > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:18 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2431 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:18 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2432 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:19 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2432 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:19 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2433 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:19 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2433 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:19 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2434 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:20 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2434 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:20 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2435 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:21 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2435 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:21 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2436 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:22 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2436 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:41:22 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2437 > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From dmatsueda@bsr.org Thu Dec 12 02:16:23 2002 From: dmatsueda@bsr.org (Dean Matsueda) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:16:23 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Query Message-ID: <0F2A4291C66C364FB257F609514EAE2C0FE3D6@bsrmail.bsr.org> Greetings, all! I just joined the mailing list and my .org is considering moving to an Open Source middleware framework like Zope. I've searched through some of the list-serv archives and read through the Zope Newbie FAQ, but didn't see any topics on some of the questions I have about using Zope. If anyone can tell me some user experience stories, I'd much appreciate it. Specifically, I'm wondering: * what kind of web applications are you building and using with Zope? * which web server are you deploying Zope on? * how active is the Zope user community? * how easy [or not] is it to build custom apps or extend the use of Zope with Python? * any comparisons to Tomcat? or other Java-based frameworks? Thanks in advance! ..dean From pw_lists@slinkp.com Thu Dec 12 02:35:59 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:35:59 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Query In-Reply-To: <0F2A4291C66C364FB257F609514EAE2C0FE3D6@bsrmail.bsr.org> References: <0F2A4291C66C364FB257F609514EAE2C0FE3D6@bsrmail.bsr.org> Message-ID: <20021212023559.GB31929@slinkp.com> On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:16:23PM -0800, Dean Matsueda wrote: > * what kind of web applications are you building and using with Zope? Right now I'm up to my eyeballs in a kind of thorny content management system which is served at many virtual hosts with a different "skin" for each host. This is based on CMFDefault but keeps diverging further from it. > * which web server are you deploying Zope on? Errr, zope *is* a web server (among other things). But it's most often deployed behind a proxy. We use Apache for that. We run several zope instances and ZEO, all on linux boxes. > * how active is the Zope user community? Very. Several dozen messages on this list per day, several active community-driven sites (www.zopezen.org, www.zopelabs.com, and of course the member stuff on www.zope.org, etc ...), and a pretty helpful and interesting IRC channel (#zope on irc.openprojects.net). THat's not to mention the communities around more specific topics: the zope-cmf list, the #plone channel... > * how easy [or not] is it to build custom apps or extend the use of Zope > with Python? Both. :) Adding a Script (Python) or an External Method is trivial, and you can get a lot of mileage out of that. But if you need new classes, it's time for a python-based Zope Product, which raises the bar quite a bit, but it's very rewarding. The mxmEasyProduct stuff might be a help with getting new products started. And there are *tons* of products with source code you can look through... > * any comparisons to Tomcat? or other Java-based frameworks? No. ;) -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From terry@taipeitimes.com Thu Dec 12 03:34:21 2002 From: terry@taipeitimes.com (Terry) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:34:21 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory References: <15862.15850.754911.374348@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20021211143619.GC2037@zaphod.chaptereight.com> Message-ID: <3DF803BD.4020008@taipeitimes.com> Thanks to the list, I think I found the stupid thing I did. Because I replace the "Maximum rows to retrieve" of a ZSQL Method by "0", sometimes there are 1??,??? rows return from the Database. Then even hang my Database. Thanks to everyone. Felix Ulrich-Oltean wrote: >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:27:07AM -0500, ken wrote: > > >>Dieter Maurer at 20:18 (UTC+0100) on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 said: >>= Terry writes: >>= > In beginning I start Zope. >>= > the python use about 26M memory. >>= > >>= > After several hours >>= > get the result by "top" >>= > Sort by memory usage >>= > >>= > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND >>= > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python >>= > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python >>= > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python >>= > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python >>= > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python >>= > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python >>= > >>= > Have any idea why? >> >>For easier reading, I inserted spaces in the above top output. Hope >>this didn't mess it up for someone else. >> >> > >That's much prettier. > > > >>Maybe I'm missing something, but I see the %MEM staying at 10.4; SHARE >>and SIZE are likewise staying the same. Seems that it's behaving itself >>quite well. Or...? >> >> > >I think the listing is a snapshot at one time - the lines are the >different threads and the memory figures are in fact shared memory. >The percentage is 10.4, but the actual size is 94M, which compared to >26M at the beginning is a sizeable increase. > >Felix. > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > From casey@zope.com Thu Dec 12 05:58:03 2002 From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 00:58:03 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog: sorting on multiple indexes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200212120058.03595.casey@zope.com> Can't currently be done at query time. However, you could populate a sort= =20 index with a combo of the values you want to sort on, such as this python= =20 script code: return context.lastname + context.firstname Put this in a Python script named LastFirst and add a matching field inde= x and=20 reindex it. Now use that as your sort index and you'll sort on multiple=20 values. If the values aren't addable, then you can also just index a tuple of=20 arbitrary length like: return (context.attr1, context.attr2, context.attr3) I have recently been working on the ZCatalog sorting code and it is possi= ble=20 to add this capability for Zope 2.7. How do people feel about this? Would= =20 many of you use it? I suppose one use would be grouping on reports. Zope 2.7 will contain many different sorting algorithms, it is likely tha= t=20 sorting on multiple keys will limit you to just a few possible algorithms= =2E So=20 the above technique would still be useful for best performance, however i= t is=20 much less flexible. -Casey On Wednesday 11 December 2002 09:04 am, Giuseppe Bonelli wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > this appears to be an old question, but I have not found any reply on t= he=20 mailing list archives. >=20 > Is there any trick to sort the results from ZCatalog on two or more ind= exes=20 ? >=20 > TIA, >=20 > --peppo=20 From adurdin@yahoo.com Thu Dec 12 07:28:36 2002 From: adurdin@yahoo.com (Andrew Durdin) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:28:36 +1100 Subject: [Zope] Published methods and docstrings Message-ID: <000701c2a1b0$15bb2ee0$1400000a@lan> Hi all, I'm a newcomer to Zope, and while mostly it seems attractive, there's one thing that to me seems downright wrong: the use of docstrings to differentiate between published and private (wrt the web) objects (methods in particular). Why I think this is bad: 1. The purpose of the docstring in Python is to give a human-readable textual description of the objects's function or purpose. 2. Zope uses this docstring for deciding whether to make the object published (visible from the web). In essence, this seems to be taking a structure intended for documentation, and using it for security purposes (where visibility is a facet of security). 3. As far as I have been able to see, there is no way to disable the functionality described in (2); similarly, there is no way to use a override the behaviour, so that one can give a non-published object a docstring. I hope I'm wrong about part (3). I hope that something has been/is being done to rectify this design flaw. Andrew From johanc@torped.se Thu Dec 12 08:22:31 2002 From: johanc@torped.se (Johan Carlsson [Easy Publisher Team]) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:22:31 +0100 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <20021211141956.A9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021212092134.02085ec0@prue.torped.se> At 14:19 2002-12-11 -0700, David Bear said: >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Martijn Pieters wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:04:47AM -0800, Bryan Capitano wrote: > > > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > > > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big= =20 > boys" > > > > You can either use WebDAV enabled editors (Go-Live or Dreamweaver both > > support WebDAV), or use the ExternalEditor product to open objects for > > editing in a WYSIWYG editor. > > > >What happens when usings webDAV to edit structured documents? Do you get= =20 >the unrendered doc, or the full html? I tried using the mickeysoft web=20 >folder and I got the rendered version -- so is there a way to get the=20 >plain form? You need to setup an WebDAV source port. Look in Z2.py for the details. Regards, Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From ken@cleveland.lug.net Thu Dec 12 09:02:19 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:02:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy In-Reply-To: <3DF79828.319F511F@rasselstein-hoesch.de> Message-ID: 500 means Internal Server Error. Yeah, not very descriptive. It points to something amiss within apache itself, possibly a configuration error. hth, ken Dirk Datzert at 20:55 (UTC+0100) on Wed, 11 Dec 2002 said: = I have detected in the apache log a = HTTP-Response 500 = = What could that mean ? Has Apache a problem to connect to Zope ? = Is Zope not responding, or has Apache an internal problem ? = = Dirk Datzert schrieb: = > = > Tino Wildenhain schrieb: = > > = > > Hi Dirk, = > > = > > --On Samstag, 7. Dezember 2002 20:46 +0100 Dirk Datzert = > > wrote: = > > = > > > Hi all, = > > > = > > > I have a strange connection problem with Zope + Apache + mod_proxy. = > > > = > > > Sometimes users click on links in their browsers (regardsless = > > > which browser: IE 5.5 or Netscape 4.7). The browser waits for data, = > > > but nothing comes back. If the user stopps the transfer and click = > > > on the link again the transfer will be done immediatly. = > > = > > Can you tell us what versions of the programs you have? = > = > Apache version / mod_proxy 1.3.19 = > Zope version 2.3.3 = > = > > Did you try to access your zope application directly = > > to compare the behavior? = > = > Yes, but the error can't be repeated with or without apache. = > Sometimes it works for a long time until next transfer is blocked. = > And testing with zope directly I didn't saw this blocking, but = > maybe the time was to short to see it. = > = > > May be you can use = > > ethereal or tcpflow to debug this further e.g. who is causing = > > the problem and when. = > > Is there any thing in the apache log file, compared to the z2.log = > > etc. = > = > Will look next time! Good idea. = > = > Regards, = > Dirk = = _______________________________________________ = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** = (Related lists - = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) = From THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au Thu Dec 12 09:38:11 2002 From: THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au (THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:38:11 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD Message-ID: <1039685899.2812.38.camel@etg-sun-1> Gotta add my bit. People often give short shrift to Solaris/SPARC running python, and pystone isn't a real world test but. As you know python perf/pystone seems directly attributable to Mhz so on my Dual 750Mhz Sun 280R A single pystone is on this box is Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 1.25 This machine benchmarks at 8000 pystones/second Whereas 16 pystones running simultaneously on the same box (note increased loop count to 50000 to be sure all jobs are likely to impact each other) Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.3 This machine benchmarks at 7936.51 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.32 This machine benchmarks at 7911.39 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.35 This machine benchmarks at 7874.02 pystones/second So what we see is a single instance python is not really running as fast as it could possibly, and that the increase in load for each new process is not linear. If the tasks where running as fast as the CPU can do the job, then 4 pystone jobs should each take twice as long as two. So whilst solaris may not be the fastest pystone box for MHz/$ you may find you can do far more with it if you run a bunch of Zeo servers ;-) If you are running lot's of Zope servers then you need to look at what your horizontal scalability will be. (ie how does it handle a load from multiple processes.) This test obviously doesn't stress memory. See ya Tim On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:55, Roel Van den Bergh wrote: > Here are some stats to add :-) > > Dell PowerApp 120 Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) Dual 1Ghz, 1GB PC133 ECC > SDRAM > running in single proccessor mode > > [root@root]# python /home/zope/2-5-0/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.87 > This machine benchmarks at 11494.3 pystones/second > [root@root]# python /home/Python-2.1.3/Lib/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.86 > This machine benchmarks at 11627.9 pystones/second > [root@root]# python /usr/lib/python1.5/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.85 > This machine benchmarks at 11764.7 pystones/second > [root@root]# python /usr/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.86 > This machine benchmarks at 11627.9 pystones/second > [root@root]# python /usr/local/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.87 > This machine benchmarks at 11494.3 pystones/second > [root@root]# python /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/Python-2.1.3/Lib/test/pystone.py > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.85 > This machine benchmarks at 11764.7 pystones/second > > Roel. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) DISCLAIMER: This email, including any attachments, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or personal information and may also be the subject of legal privilege. Any personal information contained in this email is not to be used or disclosed for any purpose other than the purpose for which you have received it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. In this case, please let me know by return email, delete the message permanently from your system and destroy any copies. Emails and their attachments may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. All attachments are opened at the recipient's risk. From all@123piano.com Thu Dec 12 10:03:45 2002 From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:03:45 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Published methods and docstrings References: <000701c2a1b0$15bb2ee0$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: <3DF85F01.9060709@123piano.com> Andrew Durdin wrote: <...> >I hope I'm wrong about part (3). I hope that something has been/is being >done to rectify this design flaw. > > don't worry, looking at http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/FAQ (zope3) "" Docstrings The presence or length of doc strings won't be meaningful either, unless someone writes a component that makes them meaningful for an application. """ hth Philippe >Andrew > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > From dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com Thu Dec 12 10:11:38 2002 From: dirk.datzert@tks-rasselstein.thyssenkrupp.com (Dirk Datzert) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:11:38 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy References: Message-ID: <005901c2a1c6$dbddd4e0$3e28011c@rag2> Hi all, the configuration was ok as fas as I understand. I updated to = apache-1.3.24 today and hope that the error has gone away. I will see. Regards and Thanks, Dirk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "ken" To: "Dirk Datzert" Cc: "zope" Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy >=20 > 500 means Internal Server Error. Yeah, not very descriptive. It = points=20 > to something amiss within apache itself, possibly a configuration = error. >=20 > hth, > ken >=20 From adurdin@yahoo.com Thu Dec 12 11:08:42 2002 From: adurdin@yahoo.com (Andrew Durdin) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:08:42 +1100 Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat Message-ID: <000501c2a1ce$d53a5520$1400000a@lan> Hi, I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially (less setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine for better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* when I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up a script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which is the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... [ OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. Unfortunately, I don't have the details of the script with me at the moment (I'll get them ASAP), but until then does anyone know any reasons that might be causing this? Is there anything in particular that has to be started before Zope? At present I'm trying to run it with ZServer on port 8080 (although Apache is running on the box on port 80). Thanks, Andrew *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about running as "nobody" From elena.schulz@gmx.net Thu Dec 12 12:02:20 2002 From: elena.schulz@gmx.net (Elena Schulz) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:02:20 +0100 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods Message-ID: <00df01c2a1d6$e89ef500$fe78a8c0@PCA> Hi, I want to set globale variables in external methods. With the following constuct I get errors if myFunctionA is set as function in the add external method form. Does anybody know how to set up global vars in external methods. -- many thanks for your replies, Elena #myExternalModul.py def myFunctionA(var1): global var1 myFunctionB() return def myFunctionB(): var2 = var1 return var2 From sabaini@inode.at Thu Dec 12 12:08:44 2002 From: sabaini@inode.at (peter sabaini) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:08:44 +0100 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <20021211170754.B9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> References: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> <20021211141956.A9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> <3DF7C774.6040005@inode.at> <20021211170754.B9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> Message-ID: <3DF87C4C.2080602@inode.at> I'll keep it on the list if you dont mind... David Bear wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Peter Sabaini wrote: > >>David Bear wrote: >>You can configure a "source port" where content won't get rendered. > [snip] > sorry to be ignorant, what does EFS do and where can I find it? EFS is kind of an Ftp filesystem for XEmacs (and Emacs too AFAIK); you open files with "C-x C-f /sabaini@localhost:/some/path" for instance. You should configure some things: ;; prevent emacs from making backup files on the server -- ;; emacs backs up by renaming the file and writing a new one, ;; and we want the original objects '(efs-make-backup-files nil) ;; i found this to be more stable and it also helps with firewalls '(efs-use-passive-mode nil) > a mountable davfs would be awesome. See http://dav.sourceforge.net/ I had no luck in running the new version though (the old one isnt available anymore it seems) - peter. From f.melssen@nsm.kun.nl Thu Dec 12 12:34:15 2002 From: f.melssen@nsm.kun.nl (Fred Melssen) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:34:15 +0100 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? References: <20021211180256.GA6796@zope.com> <20021211141956.A9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> <3DF7C774.6040005@inode.at> <20021211170754.B9073@moroni.pp.asu.edu> <3DF87C4C.2080602@inode.at> Message-ID: <3DF88247.4A94ADE9@nsm.kun.nl> Bryan Capitano wrote: > s there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged intoZope? > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial > "big boys" We use edit-on pro (www.realobjects.de), and we are very pleased with it. It's a java applet, with a lot of configurable options. Existing HTML forms can easily be replaced by this applet. Fred Melssen Nijmegen School of Management University of Nijmegen From jens@zope.com Thu Dec 12 13:22:59 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:22:59 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope + Apache + mod_proxy In-Reply-To: <005901c2a1c6$dbddd4e0$3e28011c@rag2> Message-ID: dirk, AFAIK apache 1.3.24 was affected by the "cannot set more than a single cookie per web request" thing which will affect you if you run e.g. the CMF. i would go with 1.3.26 (i think that's the latest). jens On Thursday, Dec 12, 2002, at 05:11 US/Eastern, Dirk Datzert wrote: > Hi all, > > the configuration was ok as fas as I understand. I updated to > apache-1.3.24 today and hope that the error has gone away. > > I will see. > > Regards and Thanks, > Dirk From ken@cleveland.lug.net Thu Dec 12 13:49:57 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:49:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat In-Reply-To: <000501c2a1ce$d53a5520$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: Andrew, Good of you to notice this. I was surprised (a little) to see this too. A couple questions: Which linux are you using? When you cd to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and run the script (say its name is zope) a la ./zope start what happens? Does it start up? Finally do a "grep ^si: /etc/inittab" and paste the output into your reply. ken Andrew Durdin at 22:08 (UTC+1100) on Thu, 12 Dec 2002 said: = Hi, = = I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially (less = setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine for = better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* when = I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up a = script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which is = the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... [ = OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. = Unfortunately, I don't have the details of the script with me at the moment = (I'll get them ASAP), but until then does anyone know any reasons that might = be causing this? Is there anything in particular that has to be started = before Zope? At present I'm trying to run it with ZServer on port 8080 = (although Apache is running on the box on port 80). = = Thanks, = = Andrew = = *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about = running as "nobody" = = = _______________________________________________ = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** = (Related lists - = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) = From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Thu Dec 12 14:04:55 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:04:55 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Installing Zope under RedHat References: <000501c2a1ce$d53a5520$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: Andrew Durdin wrote: > I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially (less > setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine for > better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* when > I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up a > script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which is > the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... [ > OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. > *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about > running as "nobody" You should use Python-2.1.3 with ZOPE2.6!!! Download and install it from python.org. You have to set the -u flag if you start Zope at boot-time, because Zope doesn't like to be a root-process...;-) pleae read z2.py and doc/SETUID.txt for more infos on that. best practice: create a new user called 'zope' on your machine. set the right ownerships / permissions in the Zope-Installation-Directories and then start Zope with -u zope from your init-script. -mj -- German Zope User Group http://www.dzug.org/ From complaw@hal-pc.org Thu Dec 12 14:34:07 2002 From: complaw@hal-pc.org (complaw@hal-pc.org) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:34:07 GMT Subject: [Zope] Problem with AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_role('X')" Message-ID: I'm stumped. I have a block of dtml code in my standard_html_header file that is supposed to tailor the menu line depending upon the user's role (once authenticated). For example, the standard_html_header file contains something like: ... make a (more extensive) menu line ... make a menu line for non-authenticated users I have a login menu item for the non-authenticated users, giving them an opportunity to authenticate. The authentication scheme calls a DTML Method (named "logger") that has security settings such that the challenge/response routine is initiated. Once the user is able to run logger, it takes them back to the index_html file (with the standard_html_header file mentioned above). When comming from the logger object, the menu is constructed correctly (according to the user's role). However, when coming back to index_html from somewhere else (say another folder), it goes back to the non-authenticated menu as if I never logged in (i.e., the code of the AUTHENTICATED_USER has somehow changed or is being ignored). Note, when I click on the login menu button (calling the logger object, I immediately get the correct menu (without the challenge/response). Is there something to remedy this problem? TIA, Ron From working4aliving@hotmail.com Thu Dec 12 14:47:31 2002 From: working4aliving@hotmail.com (working4aliving) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:47:31 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Help with Google Message-ID: When using Google to search on this list, which url should I use (to where?). I _know_ google is my friend... From alet@librelogiciel.com Thu Dec 12 14:55:24 2002 From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:55:24 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Help with Google In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021212145524.GA8078@mail.librelogiciel.com> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:47:31AM -0500, working4aliving wrote: > When using Google to search on this list, which url should I use (to > where?). > I _know_ google is my friend... The site at http://zope.nipltd.com/lists.html features a search facility bye, Jerome Alet From renfro@tntech.edu Thu Dec 12 15:19:01 2002 From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:19:01 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Help with Google In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021212151901.GC12940@ch208h> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:47:31AM -0500, working4aliving wrote: > When using Google to search on this list, which url should I use (to > where?). > I _know_ google is my friend... The best I've managed so far is queries like: site:lists.zope.org postgres but that searches all the mailing lists at once. Using something like: site:lists.zope.org postgres inurl:zope-db can limit the search to the zope-db mailing list, but I've not yet figured out how to limit it to the general zope list only. In addition to the NIP database, there's also http://www.mail-archive.com/zope-dev%40zope.org/ -- it doesn't archive any other Zope lists, though. -- Mike Renfro / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research, 931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu From bkc@murkworks.com Thu Dec 12 15:41:52 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:41:52 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: References: <20021211141944.28764.73518.Mailman@mail.python.org> Message-ID: <3DF8666E.18450.323AAA6@localhost> Dell 1400SC single processor PIII-933 with 512M ram [bkc@marimba Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 9.21 This machine benchmarks at 10857.8 pystones/second Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From marinus@cs.utwente.nl Thu Dec 12 16:00:07 2002 From: marinus@cs.utwente.nl (Ria Marinussen) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:00:07 +0100 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? Message-ID: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F50200102765B@eiger.cs.utwente.nl> Hi Brian, >Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all > commercial "big boys" > in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the > non-technical types > to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see > anything like this for > Zope yet. when you mean a WYSIWYG editor to use in a browser, I can recommend ACE (Advanced Content Editor). It's available as html-component for use in IE5.5 and up. Unfortunately it's not for free, but it's not too expensive (around 60 dollar at this moment, and I've gotten two upgrades already for free). The license agreemant allows you to alter the source to match your demands and you can use the editor in as many sites/pages as you want. The only limitation is that the license if for one programmer to work with. You can find it at: http://yusasp.com/prj04.asp The examples that are provided with it are focused on asp and IIS, but it's easy to implement in zope. I can write a short how-to if you're interested. Greetings, Ria Marinussen Webmaster Department of Computer Science University of Twente Enschede, The Netherlands From hawkfish@electricfish.com Thu Dec 12 16:09:13 2002 From: hawkfish@electricfish.com (Richard Wesley) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:09:13 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:54 PM -0500 12/11/02, ken wrote: >I don't know what OS you're using, but there's probably three things >going on here. On typical UNIX systems-- and this includes Linux-- >there's (1) a hardware clock, (2) a system clock, and then (3) whatever >time the database may think it is-- (3) should be the same as (2). Linux, set to PST. >I'd recommend setting the hardware clock to UTC, then set the correct >timezone so that system time tells the correct local time. That is the current situation. >Then see >what time the database thinks it is. That is an interesting suggestion. MySQL has a Now() function. The problem is that MySQL's date appears to have no Time Zone information attached to it, so the convention is to store times as GMT (thus avoiding DST issues). But a quick check of the main server indicates that the database thinks it is in PST as well. >Doing the quick fix you're >contemplating below will come back to bite you. E.g., what are you >going to do in the DST flips? That is why we want to use GMT. >No one wants the wrong time attached to >their data, but, at the same time, I'm sure you don't want to sit there >at 2am twice a year to change the time. I've been using Linux for ten >years and for ten years it's handled the switch to/from DST perfectly. >This is really the way you want to go. As I mentioned, we are using Linux, and this is not a problem. >While you're there, look into rdate. This won't get you out of the >UTC/localtime configuration; rdate fetches the correct time from time a >server (my systems do this once a day) and so keeps the time on your >system accurate. We have this on all our systems. >All of this really should be required for an enterprise system. Agreed, and we are doing the basics (rdate daemon). But the central issue remains: How do I convince MySQL to store dates as GMT, not local time? Judging from the Now() test I just did, the only solution is to change the system time to GMT. Sincerely, Richard Wesley Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 (f) +1-206-493-1697 From myzope@gmx.net Thu Dec 12 16:10:22 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:10:22 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Help with Google References: <20021212151901.GC12940@ch208h> Message-ID: <3DF8B4EE.9020805@gmx.net> Mike Renfro wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:47:31AM -0500, working4aliving wrote: > >>When using Google to search on this list, which url should I use (to >>where?). >>I _know_ google is my friend... > > > The best I've managed so far is queries like: > > site:lists.zope.org postgres > > but that searches all the mailing lists at once. Using something like: > > site:lists.zope.org postgres inurl:zope-db > > can limit the search to the zope-db mailing list, but I've not yet > figured out how to limit it to the general zope list only. Note that you can also use the exclude feature with inurl, i.e. site:lists.zope.org postgres -inurl:zope-db From this point on it's only a matter of diligence to restrict it to the general zope list only ;). cheers, oliver From matt@zope.com Thu Dec 12 16:26:30 2002 From: matt@zope.com (Matthew T. Kromer) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:26:30 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 Beta 1 Released Message-ID: <3DF8B8B6.6060303@zope.com> ZOPE 2.6.1 Beta 1 Released Zope 2.6.1b1 represents a development step in the next Zope release formed with a large number of community contributions. You may download Zope 2.6.1b1 from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.1b1/ Users of the Zope source release should note that Python 2.1.3 is now the required platform. Python 2.1.3 includes a fix to an issue that could cause crashes in Zope. Particular features of interest in Zope 2.6.1b1: * Catlog changes to speed sorting and lower memory consumption * ZODB Deadlock avoidance, fixed store order * Fixes for the rfc822 timezone / locale bugs in Zope 2.6.0 * Fixes for collector issues 597, 640, 646, 650, 651, 671, 694, 699, 703 For more information on what is new in this release, see the CHANGES.txt and HISTORY.txt files for the release: * http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.1b1/CHANGES.txt * http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.1b1/HISTORY.txt For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, please see: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html From tino@wildenhain.de Thu Dec 12 16:44:44 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:44:44 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34723529.1039715084@liza> Hi, --On Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 08:09 -0800 Richard Wesley wrote: ... *snip*... >> While you're there, look into rdate. This won't get you out of the >> UTC/localtime configuration; rdate fetches the correct time from time a >> server (my systems do this once a day) and so keeps the time on your >> system accurate. I'd suggest dropping rdate in favour of ntpdate, since this is much more advanced and gives better results even over slow lines. Regards Tino From colyn.brown@newtimes.com Thu Dec 12 16:59:59 2002 From: colyn.brown@newtimes.com (Colyn Brown) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:59:59 -0700 Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" In-Reply-To: <20021212145524.GA8078@mail.librelogiciel.com> Message-ID: I have a SQL method that is pretty heavily conditioned. When I test the method in the ZMI, I get the query results and a display of the rendered query. How can I duplicate that outside the ZMI? Thanks. --colyn From wphewitt@attbi.com Thu Dec 12 17:06:24 2002 From: wphewitt@attbi.com (Bill Hewitt) Date: 12 Dec 2002 09:06:24 -0800 Subject: [Zope] RE: WYSIWIG Editors Message-ID: <1039712784.3793.12.camel@blowfish> --=-US+55XLdYmRRrnnBP4X1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit External Editor, with a little perl (or python) wrapper around Open Office (to clean the gradeau that OO seems to insist on adding) seems to work pretty well..... Got a few "non-technicals" using it now... Regrettably, havent been able to get it (the script) to work consistently with Windows. -- Bill Hewitt --=-US+55XLdYmRRrnnBP4X1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit External Editor, with a little perl (or python) wrapper around Open Office (to clean the gradeau that OO seems to insist on adding) seems to work pretty well..... Got a few "non-technicals" using it now... Regrettably, havent been able to get it (the script) to work consistently with Windows.

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--=-US+55XLdYmRRrnnBP4X1-- From rhires@earthlink.net Thu Dec 12 17:24:29 2002 From: rhires@earthlink.net (Russell Hires) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:24:29 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Agreed, and we are doing the basics (rdate daemon). But the central > issue remains: How do I convince MySQL to store dates as GMT, not > local time? Judging from the Now() test I just did, the only > solution is to change the system time to GMT. So you're using Linux. Couldn't you write a trigger that gets the hwclock() time? Why are you having MySQL keep up with the time? Why not just deal with ZopeTime, then subtract the appropriate amount of time based on whether it's DST or not? After all, how does your computer know when to change its clock (to DST or back)? Is that an overhead problem that you're trying to avoid? Sorry these are simple solutions, but maybe that's what's needed? Russell - -- Linux -- the OS for the Renaissance Man -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9+MZNAqKGrvVshJQRAmNLAKCEYM6KBjQMeWE8NDeuNgdx+TIM9ACffETj VFU/Jer6rmIqozi1vPUg9kg= =Zvt5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From scott.meilicke@intp.com Thu Dec 12 17:28:14 2002 From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:28:14 -0800 Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" Message-ID: Begin by adding a Z Search Interface from the ZMI, add both the search and report forms. That will generate an interface to the zSQL method, in either zpt or dtml, which you can then modify to suit your needs. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Colyn Brown [mailto:colyn.brown@newtimes.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:00 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" I have a SQL method that is pretty heavily conditioned. When I test the method in the ZMI, I get the query results and a display of the rendered query. How can I duplicate that outside the ZMI? Thanks. --colyn _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. From hddb@planetinternet.be Thu Dec 12 17:30:22 2002 From: hddb@planetinternet.be (H. De Backer) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:30:22 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope products install Message-ID: <001401c2a204$267e3750$4fb9efd4@hdb> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2A20C.87F31FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To install products , you need acces to the Control Panel and import = directory. My Zope hosting company doesn't give access to these functions. (for = security reasons I guess) On my home computer I also installed Zope ; could I install a product ( = Zubb for example) , go to where the files have been installed and then = copy the content of these files on the Zope hosting company server ? Would this work ? ( As you have probably already understood, I am quite = new in Zope :-) Thanks for your answer. Henry ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2A20C.87F31FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To install products , you need acces to = the Control=20 Panel and import directory.

My Zope hosting company doesn't give = access to=20 these functions. (for security reasons I guess)

On my home computer I also installed = Zope ; could I=20 install a product ( Zubb for example) , go to where the files have been=20 installed and then copy the content of these files on the = Zope=20 hosting company server ?

Would this work ? ( As you have = probably already=20 understood, I am quite new in Zope :-)

Thanks for your answer.

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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2A20C.87F31FC0-- From colyn.brown@newtimes.com Thu Dec 12 17:32:25 2002 From: colyn.brown@newtimes.com (Colyn Brown) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:32:25 -0700 Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm sorry, but I guess I wasn't descriptive enough. I'm talking about how Zope will print "SQL used:" at the bottom of the query result (inside the ZMI). It prints out what your query looks like without any DTML, if you're query uses DTML. I want to be able to get that outside the ZMI somehow. --colyn > From: "Meilicke, Scott" > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:28:14 -0800 > To: 'Colyn Brown' , zope@zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] "SQL used:" > > > > Begin by adding a Z Search Interface from the ZMI, add both the search and > report forms. That will generate an interface to the zSQL method, in either > zpt or dtml, which you can then modify to suit your needs. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colyn Brown [mailto:colyn.brown@newtimes.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:00 AM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" > > I have a SQL method that is pretty heavily conditioned. When I test the > method in the ZMI, I get the query results and a display of the rendered > query. How can I duplicate that outside the ZMI? Thanks. > > --colyn > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is > confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any > employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. > Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message > and all attachments from your electronic files. > From PieterB Thu Dec 12 17:34:42 2002 From: PieterB (PieterB) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:34:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 Beta 1 Released In-Reply-To: <3DF8B8B6.6060303@zope.com> Message-ID: <20021212173442.7336921119@gewis.win.tue.nl> > ZOPE 2.6.1 Beta 1 Released Jihaa!!! The first change in: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.6.1b1/CHANGES.txt is a bit confusing. I think that bugfix by caseman was included in the first beta? > Zope 2.6.1 beta 2 > > Bugs Fixed > > - Fix bug concatenating Lazy result sets. Also made len potentially > less expensive for LazyCat objects. PieterB From aschmidt@nvcc.edu Thu Dec 12 17:46:07 2002 From: aschmidt@nvcc.edu (Schmidt, Allen J.) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:46:07 -0500 Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" Message-ID: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B3E5@novamail.nv.cc.va.us> I have seen this answer on this list before...just can't remember how it was stated so you could search the archives for it. I think Dieter posted it... IIRC, it was a simple line of code to add and the query itself was returned...not the results. Probably a way to get both. I remember trying it and it worked... "O where, O where has my memory gone... O where O where can it be?!" Allen -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Colyn Brown Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:32 PM To: Meilicke, Scott; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] "SQL used:" I'm sorry, but I guess I wasn't descriptive enough. I'm talking about how Zope will print "SQL used:" at the bottom of the query result (inside the ZMI). It prints out what your query looks like without any DTML, if you're query uses DTML. I want to be able to get that outside the ZMI somehow. --colyn > From: "Meilicke, Scott" > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:28:14 -0800 > To: 'Colyn Brown' , zope@zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] "SQL used:" > > > > Begin by adding a Z Search Interface from the ZMI, add both the search and > report forms. That will generate an interface to the zSQL method, in either > zpt or dtml, which you can then modify to suit your needs. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colyn Brown [mailto:colyn.brown@newtimes.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:00 AM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" > > I have a SQL method that is pretty heavily conditioned. When I test the > method in the ZMI, I get the query results and a display of the rendered > query. How can I duplicate that outside the ZMI? Thanks. > > --colyn > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is > confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any > employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. > Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message > and all attachments from your electronic files. > _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From aschmidt@nvcc.edu Thu Dec 12 17:48:21 2002 From: aschmidt@nvcc.edu (Schmidt, Allen J.) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" FOUND Message-ID: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B3E6@novamail.nv.cc.va.us> I found it! A quick Google search using: zope zsql show query http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-db/2002-April/000512.html http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/tips/GeneratedSQLSource Quick answer: Allen -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Colyn Brown Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:32 PM To: Meilicke, Scott; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] "SQL used:" I'm sorry, but I guess I wasn't descriptive enough. I'm talking about how Zope will print "SQL used:" at the bottom of the query result (inside the ZMI). It prints out what your query looks like without any DTML, if you're query uses DTML. I want to be able to get that outside the ZMI somehow. --colyn > From: "Meilicke, Scott" > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:28:14 -0800 > To: 'Colyn Brown' , zope@zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] "SQL used:" > > > > Begin by adding a Z Search Interface from the ZMI, add both the search and > report forms. That will generate an interface to the zSQL method, in either > zpt or dtml, which you can then modify to suit your needs. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colyn Brown [mailto:colyn.brown@newtimes.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:00 AM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] "SQL used:" > > I have a SQL method that is pretty heavily conditioned. When I test the > method in the ZMI, I get the query results and a display of the rendered > query. How can I duplicate that outside the ZMI? Thanks. > > --colyn > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is > confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any > employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. > Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message > and all attachments from your electronic files. > _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From list@zettai.net Thu Dec 12 18:03:52 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:03:52 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope products install In-Reply-To: <001401c2a204$267e3750$4fb9efd4@hdb> Message-ID: hi, this won't work because there is some python code that needs to be on the filesystem for those files to work. Won't your zope hosting company install the product you want for you? Have you asked them? <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: "H. De Backer" > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:30:22 +0100 > To: > Subject: [Zope] Zope products install > > To install products , you need acces to the Control Panel and import > directory. > My Zope hosting company doesn't give access to these functions. (for security > reasons I guess) > On my home computer I also installed Zope ; could I install a product ( Zubb > for example) , go to where the files have been installed and then copy the > content of these files on the Zope hosting company server ? > Would this work ? ( As you have probably already understood, I am quite new in > Zope :-) > Thanks for your answer. > > Henry From pault@center7.com Thu Dec 12 18:11:22 2002 From: pault@center7.com (Paul Tiemann) Date: 12 Dec 2002 11:11:22 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Re: Published methods and docstrings Message-ID: <1039716682.1190.26.camel@pault.center7.com> Hi Andrew, > I'm a newcomer to Zope, and while mostly it seems attractive... I hope this little clarification will help to make Zope more wholly attractive ;) > there's one thing that to me seems downright wrong: the use of > docstrings to differentiate between published and private (wrt > the web) objects (methods in particular). I'm only going to try to help based on my limited knowledge. If I'm incorrect, somebody please help me to understand this better as well-- *) Public visibility requires a docstring. but... *) A docstring alone doesn't result in public visibility. *) What really makes a thing "private" is to prefix its name with an underscore. Example: def public_hello(self,REQUEST=None): """This method returns Hello World, you can call me TTW" return "Hello World" def _private_hello(self,REQUEST=None): """Even though I have a docstring, you can't call me TTW""" return "Hello World" -- Paul From richard@apogaion.com Thu Dec 12 18:04:26 2002 From: richard@apogaion.com (Richard Shebora) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Square Roots... Please help sqrt(x) References: Message-ID: <3DF8CFAA.7080506@apogaion.com> To anyone who may be able to help, I need to calculate the distance between two zip codes and all is working except for the square root part. I have been trying to use to get the square root of x. But it does not work and reports an attribute error. I have used the _.int(x) with no problem and dis notice the sqrt() is in the Math Library. Is there additional syntax to access this function? I searched and googled and found everything but an example in DTML of how to use sqrt(). Thanks, Richard From aschmidt@nvcc.edu Thu Dec 12 18:23:21 2002 From: aschmidt@nvcc.edu (Schmidt, Allen J.) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:23:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Square Roots... Please help sqrt(x) Message-ID: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B3E8@novamail.nv.cc.va.us> -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Richard Shebora Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:04 PM Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Square Roots... Please help sqrt(x) To anyone who may be able to help, I need to calculate the distance between two zip codes and all is working except for the square root part. I have been trying to use to get the square root of x. But it does not work and reports an attribute error. I have used the _.int(x) with no problem and dis notice the sqrt() is in the Math Library. Is there additional syntax to access this function? I searched and googled and found everything but an example in DTML of how to use sqrt(). Thanks, Richard _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From pw_lists@slinkp.com Thu Dec 12 18:35:51 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:35:51 -0800 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods In-Reply-To: <00df01c2a1d6$e89ef500$fe78a8c0@PCA> References: <00df01c2a1d6$e89ef500$fe78a8c0@PCA> Message-ID: <20021212183551.GB6029@slinkp.com> On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 01:02:20PM +0100, Elena Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > I want to set globale variables in external methods. > > With the following constuct I get errors if myFunctionA is set as function > in the add external method form. > Does anybody know how to set up global vars in external methods. > > -- many thanks for your replies, Elena > > #myExternalModul.py > > def myFunctionA(var1): > > global var1 Stop right there... that's a syntax error in Python: SyntaxError: name 'var1' is local and global What are you really trying to do? Why do you pass a parameter to myFuntionA and then try to make the name of the parameter (which is local to the function by definition) a global? --PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From pablo@decode.com.ar Thu Dec 12 19:10:04 2002 From: pablo@decode.com.ar (Pablo Ziliani) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:10:04 -0300 Subject: [Zope] Site Access Vs VHM Message-ID: <000701c2a212$212b1da0$0400a8c0@arkham.com.ar> I'm trying to serve multiple sites from a single Zope 2.6.0 instance, so I need some way to proxy from Apache to Zope (linux). I've been using a mod_proxy to rewrite urls to i.e.: http://www.domain.com:8080/clients/clientX, and I placed a SiteRoot object on each root folder. This model seems to work fine if I don't have any Zcatalog or (specially dangerous in zope 2.6.0) Xron object: if so, CatalogAware classes will use the fake absolute_url to recatalog themselves, raising exceptions like this one: Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__ Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__ Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 604, in renderwb Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 61, in render Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval __traceback_info__: data_record_id_ Module , line 2, in f Module Products.ZCatalog.ZCatalog, line 549, in getobject Module OFS.Traversable, line 120, in unrestrictedTraverse __traceback_info__: (['1023215715', 'aereos'], 'app') Module OFS.Application, line 108, in __bobo_traverse__ So I now wonder if there's any chance to get the same effect by using a VHM instead. Furthermore, can anybody tell me the difference or benefits of using one or the other? TIA, Pablo Ziliani From k_hamzat@yahoo.com Thu Dec 12 19:11:42 2002 From: k_hamzat@yahoo.com (Hamzat Kamal) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:11:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Zope] why will python be using over 90% of CPU time ? Message-ID: <20021212191142.92624.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I am running zope server 2.5.1, python 2.1.3. on RedHat Linux (latest ver). Ever before now I discovered that when the traffic to my site is high the python will be using 99.9% of the CPU usage constantly, and only using 300Mb of 772Mb of my bandwidth. This make the site to be very slow and almost inaccessible to the visitors, infact it always bring down the zope server. But now I also found out that the python uses as much as 45-55% of the CPU usage when the traffic is redirected out of the zerver and been accessed by me alone. I need help from those that have better understanding of how the zope server works on what could have been the cause(s) and what can I do to sovle this problem. Thanks. ===== Hamzat kamaldeen Ishola Dnet Systems Limited. 223 Ikorodu Road, Lagos. Nigeria. 234 1 7749381, 234 08033011305 --- If Mistake is an opportunity to see better, then do not fear it, but ready to admit it. NOTE: Sentimental decisions are not mistakes but failures !!! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com Thu Dec 12 19:11:46 2002 From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:11:46 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Pack won't finish Message-ID: I'm trying to pack our Data.fs, but it appears to be hanging. The Data.fs.pack file hits a certain size and stops growing, but it doesn't swap out with the live Data.fs. We're using Zope 2.6.0 with Zeo 1.0 on RedHat 7.1 Linux. Any ideas on where to look for problems? From tino@wildenhain.de Thu Dec 12 19:47:52 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:47:52 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Square Roots... Please help sqrt(x) In-Reply-To: <3DF8CFAA.7080506@apogaion.com> References: <3DF8CFAA.7080506@apogaion.com> Message-ID: <5469484.1039726072@liza> Hi Richard, --On Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 13:04 -0500 Richard Shebora wrote: > To anyone who may be able to help, > > I need to calculate the distance between two zip codes and all is working > except for the square root part. > > I have been trying to use > > > > to get the square root of x. But it does not work and reports an > attribute error. I have used the _.int(x) with no problem and dis notice > the sqrt() is in the Math Library. Is there additional syntax to access > this function? I searched and googled and found everything but an > example in DTML of how to use sqrt(). See http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AppendixA.stx especially the part about "modules" in DTML its just _.math.sqrt(x) in Python Scripts: import math math.sqrt(x) Regards Tino From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com Thu Dec 12 19:50:17 2002 From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:50:17 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains Message-ID: We're using ZEO to feed two Zope clients and we're using Sessions with a packless storage to keep track of session info. It works great except for one problem related to Netscape 4 that I've seen referenced before in other contexts. I've got browseridmanager set to feed cookies with a domain of .mydomain.com. So www1.mydomain.com and www2.mydomain.com and www.mydomain.com all work fine. But mydomain.com doesn't get a browser ID set. If I take off the domain setting in the browser ID manager, it works with Netscape 4 with mydomain.com but of course doesn't work on any of the other domains and doesn't share domain info across the board. Is there any workaround for this short of forcing them to a www.mydomain.com URL? Thanks! - Chris From tino@wildenhain.de Thu Dec 12 20:06:44 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:06:44 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Pack won't finish In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6600921.1039727204@liza> Hi Chris, --On Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 14:11 -0500 Chris Muldrow wrote: > I'm trying to pack our Data.fs, but it appears to be hanging. The > Data.fs.pack file hits a certain size and stops growing, but it doesn't > swap out with the live Data.fs. We're using Zope 2.6.0 with Zeo 1.0 on > RedHat 7.1 Linux. Any ideas on where to look for problems? > I'd look at the free disk space. Probably your filesystem is full. Resolving this, removing the created files and a new triggering of the packing process should help. Regards Tino From evan@4-am.com Thu Dec 12 20:02:29 2002 From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:02:29 -0600 Subject: [Zope] Re: Site Access Vs VHM In-Reply-To: <000701c2a212$212b1da0$0400a8c0@arkham.com.ar> References: <000701c2a212$212b1da0$0400a8c0@arkham.com.ar> Message-ID: <3DF8EB55.3040500@4-am.com> Pablo Ziliani wrote: > So I now wonder if there's any chance to get the same effect by using a > VHM instead. Furthermore, can anybody tell me the difference or benefits > of using one or the other? I wrote VHM because so many people were having trouble using SiteRoots properly. I consider SiteRoots to be obsolete and don't recommend using them. VHM is much simpler for Apache users, since you only need one (in your root), you don't have to configure it, and it can't screw up direct access to your Zope. Cheers, Evan @ 4-am From bkc@murkworks.com Thu Dec 12 20:14:50 2002 From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:14:50 -0500 Subject: [Zope] No Module named ZamlBase (editing ZSQL) Message-ID: <3DF8A667.7141.41D94F9@localhost> I have a Zope site .. its' been upgraded over the years from 2.2 (perhaps older) and now is at 2.6.0 When I try to view the "advanced" tab of ZSQL objects, I get the following exception. I have no idea what Zamlbase is .. Perhaps a product I had tried ages ago. In any case, even if I create new ZSQL objects I still get the same exception trying to view the advanced tab. Any ideas how I can fix this? I recall a hack at some point .. something in Zclass, I can't remember. 2002-12-12T15:18:37 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x1e\x19' Traceback (innermost last): Module ZODB.Connection, line 533, in setstate ImportError: No module named ZamlBase ------ 2002-12-12T15:18:37 ERROR(200) SiteError http://strader.murkworks.com:7180/Strader/P/xSQLPackage/manage_advancedForm Traceback (innermost last): Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__ Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec Module Shared.DC.ZRDB.DA, line 476, in manage_product_zclass_info Module ZODB.Connection, line 533, in setstate ImportError: No module named ZamlBase Brad Clements, bkc@murkworks.com (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements From working4aliving@hotmail.com Thu Dec 12 20:09:25 2002 From: working4aliving@hotmail.com (working4aliving) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:09:25 -0500 Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions References: Message-ID: I've done that also. Search the list, it's been talked about before. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meilicke, Scott" To: "'Marco Federighi'" ; Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:50 PM Subject: RE: [Zope] win32 extensions > What platform? > > I installed the ActiveState version of python on windows before the win32 > extensions, and then told zope to use that version of python instead of the > one it shipped with. > > Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Marco Federighi [mailto:m.federighi@ucl.ac.uk] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:25 PM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] win32 extensions > > > Hi all! > > Has anyone succeeded in installing the python win32 extensions, and how? My > installer refuses to recognise that python is installed, even though I try > to install in the Zope directories (/bin, and /bin/lib/win32) where > python21.dll sits. > > Thanks for any insights > > Marco > The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is > confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any > employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. > Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is > strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the > original message and all attachments from your electronic files. > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com Thu Dec 12 20:15:20 2002 From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:15:20 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Pack won't finish In-Reply-To: <6600921.1039727204@liza> Message-ID: On 12/12/02 3:06 PM, "Tino Wildenhain" wrote: > Hi Chris, > > --On Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2002 14:11 -0500 Chris Muldrow > wrote: > >> I'm trying to pack our Data.fs, but it appears to be hanging. The >> Data.fs.pack file hits a certain size and stops growing, but it doesn't >> swap out with the live Data.fs. We're using Zope 2.6.0 with Zeo 1.0 on >> RedHat 7.1 Linux. Any ideas on where to look for problems? >> > I'd look at the free disk space. Probably your filesystem is > full. Resolving this, removing the created files and > a new triggering of the packing process should help. > > Regards > Tino > I thought about that, but I've got 19 gigs free and the Data.fs is only 2.5 gigs. (And I've packed Data.fs files bigger than 2 gigs before--we're compiled for large file support) From ken@cleveland.lug.net Thu Dec 12 20:16:02 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 15:16:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Richard, I'm not following the rational for wanting your database to think it's GMT, but that's okay. Whatever time you want MySQL to think it is can be set at the command line with the --timezone option, like --timezone=UTC If you're curious, this is processed by /usr/bin/safe_mysqld. Also check to see if there's something in /etc/my.conf like TZ=PST8PDT export TZ Again, change the value to your desired timezone. hth, ken Richard Wesley at 08:09 (UTC-0800) on Thu, 12 Dec 2002 said: = At 7:54 PM -0500 12/11/02, ken wrote: = >I don't know what OS you're using, but there's probably three things = >going on here. On typical UNIX systems-- and this includes Linux-- = >there's (1) a hardware clock, (2) a system clock, and then (3) whatever = >time the database may think it is-- (3) should be the same as (2). = = Linux, set to PST. = = >I'd recommend setting the hardware clock to UTC, then set the correct = >timezone so that system time tells the correct local time. = = That is the current situation. = = >Then see = >what time the database thinks it is. = = That is an interesting suggestion. MySQL has a Now() function. = = The problem is that MySQL's date appears to have no Time Zone = information attached to it, so the convention is to store times as = GMT (thus avoiding DST issues). But a quick check of the main server = indicates that the database thinks it is in PST as well. = = >Doing the quick fix you're = >contemplating below will come back to bite you. E.g., what are you = >going to do in the DST flips? = = That is why we want to use GMT. = = >No one wants the wrong time attached to = >their data, but, at the same time, I'm sure you don't want to sit there = >at 2am twice a year to change the time. I've been using Linux for ten = >years and for ten years it's handled the switch to/from DST perfectly. = >This is really the way you want to go. = = As I mentioned, we are using Linux, and this is not a problem. = = >While you're there, look into rdate. This won't get you out of the = >UTC/localtime configuration; rdate fetches the correct time from time a = >server (my systems do this once a day) and so keeps the time on your = >system accurate. = = We have this on all our systems. = = >All of this really should be required for an enterprise system. = = Agreed, and we are doing the basics (rdate daemon). But the central = issue remains: How do I convince MySQL to store dates as GMT, not = local time? Judging from the Now() test I just did, the only = solution is to change the system time to GMT. = Sincerely, = = Richard Wesley = Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. = = (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 = (f) +1-206-493-1697 = = _______________________________________________ = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** = (Related lists - = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) = From nitin@borwankar.com Thu Dec 12 20:43:23 2002 From: nitin@borwankar.com (Nitin Borwankar) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:43:23 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Query References: <0F2A4291C66C364FB257F609514EAE2C0FE3D6@bsrmail.bsr.org> <20021212023559.GB31929@slinkp.com> Message-ID: <3DF8F4EB.1020503@borwankar.com> Paul Winkler wrote: >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:16:23PM -0800, Dean Matsueda wrote: > [...] >* any comparisons to Tomcat? or other Java-based frameworks? > >No. ;) > > Yes :-)) Note I use both Zope and Tomcat so this is not based on religious feelings. Using Zope will allow you to focus on getting your work done without having to wade through tons of tutorials and docs about the next Java API, SDK version security toolkit, ... all before getting one page up. You will get work done in 20-25% of the time with your mind feeling a lot lighter. The Zope database adapter and DTML support for SQL queries allows powerful apps to be built rapidly and also maintained with much less pain. The only reason you would not use Zope and use Tomcat would be if there was a corporate policy of using Java and J2EE and/or you had to be tightly coupled into some existing Java application/platform. ( Loosely coupled you can still do with Zope and XML messaging/SOAP). That is the current reason I use Tomcat in some areas. -- Statistics show that most people are in the majority, while fewer are in the minority Nitin Borwankar nitin@borwankar.com From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk Thu Dec 12 20:40:47 2002 From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:40:47 -0000 Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8557795.1039725647@[192.168.1.2]> --On 11 December 2002 09:04 -0800 Bryan Capitano wrote: > Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? > Structured text is better than nothing, but most all commercial "big boys" > in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the non-technical types > to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see anything like this > for Zope yet. Only a few of these "widgets" are Zope specific. Zope will work with pretty much anything. For a long list of widgets see: Paul > > Nothing in the mailling list archives either. > > Any ideas, hints, or road signs about this matter? > Thanks for any help, > > Bryan > > > > Bryan R. Capitano > President, > CAPITANO WEb CONSULTING > Tel: 541-344-0747 > Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com > URL: http://www.capitanoweb.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > -- The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/ From adurdin@yahoo.com Thu Dec 12 20:43:33 2002 From: adurdin@yahoo.com (Andrew Durdin) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 07:43:33 +1100 Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat References: Message-ID: <000a01c2a21f$2381f300$1400000a@lan> Thanks for the quick response, ken. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ken" > Which linux are you using? I'm using RedHat 7.3. > When you cd to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and run the script (say its name is > zope) a la > > /zope start > > what happens? Does it start up? Yes, when I do that (as root), zope starts with the following messages: ================================================================= [root@box init.d]# ./zope start Starting Zope: [root@box init.d]# /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/z2.py:385: UserWarning: Y ou are running Python version 2.2.2. This Python version has not yet been tested with Zope and you may experience operational problems as a result. Consider using Python 2.1.3 instead. warnings.warn(err) ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:04 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 1375 /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/z2.py:385: UserWarning: You are running Python version 2.2.2 . This Python version has not yet been tested with Zope and you may experience op erational problems as a result. Consider using Python 2.1.3 instead. warnings.warn(err) ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:15 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: '144707896_1036222 030.749935' ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:15 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database '144707896_1036222030.749935' at /temp_folder ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:16 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Fri Dec 13 07:34:16 200 2 Hostname: box.lan Port: 8080 ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:16 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Fri Dec 13 07:34:16 2002 Hostname: box.lan Port: 8021 ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:17 INFO(0) ZServer PCGI Server started at Fri Dec 13 07:34:17 200 2 Unix socket: /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/var/pcgi.soc ------ 2002-12-13T07:34:17 INFO(0) z2 Running Zope as 'nobody' can compromise your Zope f iles; consider using a dedicated user account for Zope ================================================================= > Finally do a "grep ^si: /etc/inittab" and paste the output into your > reply. si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit The script I use for starting Zope is as follows: ======================================================================= #!/bin/sh # Startup script for Zope # # description: Run zope (web management) server # Source function library. . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions prog="Zope" start() { echo -n $"Starting $prog: " /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/start -u nobody & RETVAL=$? return $RETVAL } stop() { /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/stop return 0 } case "$1" in start) start ;; stop) stop ;; status) status $prog ;; restart) stop start ;; condrestart) ;; *) echo $"Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|status}" exit 1 esac exit 0 ======================================================================= In /etc/rc3.d, the link to the zope script is currently "S96zope" Andrew > Andrew Durdin at 22:08 (UTC+1100) on Thu, 12 Dec 2002 said: > > = Hi, > = > = I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially (less > = setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine for > = better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* when > = I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up a > = script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which is > = the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... [ > = OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. > = Unfortunately, I don't have the details of the script with me at the moment > = (I'll get them ASAP), but until then does anyone know any reasons that might > = be causing this? Is there anything in particular that has to be started > = before Zope? At present I'm trying to run it with ZServer on port 8080 > = (although Apache is running on the box on port 80). > = > = Thanks, > = > = Andrew > = > = *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about > = running as "nobody" > = > = > = _______________________________________________ > = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > = (Related lists - > = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > = > From hawkfish@electricfish.com Thu Dec 12 20:44:57 2002 From: hawkfish@electricfish.com (Richard Wesley) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:44:57 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: At 12:24 PM -0500 12/12/02, Russell Hires wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > > >> Agreed, and we are doing the basics (rdate daemon). But the central >> issue remains: How do I convince MySQL to store dates as GMT, not >> local time? Judging from the Now() test I just did, the only >> solution is to change the system time to GMT. >So you're using Linux. Couldn't you write a trigger that gets the hwclock() >time? > >Why are you having MySQL keep up with the time? Why not just deal with >ZopeTime, then subtract the appropriate amount of time based on whether it's >DST or not? The database should store times as GMT - this is a good idea simply because it gets rid of representation issues and silly problems like DST. Time zones then become simply a display issue and times in the database are well behaved and absolute. >After all, how does your computer know when to change its clock >(to DST or back)? My computer (at least on Linux) does not change its clock at all - all it does is change the string that is displayed. That string depends upon the system time zone. The problem is that while Zope's DateTime class is smart and understands absolute time and how to represent it in a particular time zone, MySQL does _not_ understand absolute time and makes assumptions that are not very robust, e.g. what happens to stored dates if you move the machine to another time zone? So, the question remains: Does anyone have a goo way to get MySQL and/or its Zope DB adapter to handle dates in GMT rather than local time? TIA, Sincerely, Richard Wesley Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 (f) +1-206-493-1697 From hawkfish@electricfish.com Thu Dec 12 20:54:10 2002 From: hawkfish@electricfish.com (Richard Wesley) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:54:10 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Time zones (another try) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ken - At 3:16 PM -0500 12/12/02, ken wrote: >Richard, > >I'm not following the rationale for wanting your database to think it's >GMT, but that's okay. We have to pick a representation for the database because it does not appear to support one natively. The choices are either UTC or or local time. If we decide to share a database among several servers distributed around the world, they all need to agree on a single time representation, at which point "local time" becomes meaningless. Hence our use of UTC. >Whatever time you want MySQL to think it is can >be set at the command line with the --timezone option, like > >--timezone=UTC > >If you're curious, this is processed by /usr/bin/safe_mysqld. Fabulous. Thanks for the info. >Also >check to see if there's something in /etc/my.conf like > >TZ=PST8PDT >export TZ > >Again, change the value to your desired timezone. I will check these out. There is still the problem, though, of how to make Zope send GMT through the ZMySQLDA module. I can hack up the adapter, but I was sort of hoping that there was some sort of configuration for it. Sincerely, Richard Wesley Co-President, Electric Fish, Inc. (v) +1-206-493-1690x210 (f) +1-206-493-1697 From list@zettai.net Thu Dec 12 21:03:33 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:03:33 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Couldn't install ZCatalog - or OFSP In-Reply-To: <3DD4064E.1050308@hotmail.com> Message-ID: FYI this has not helped me. I'm still getting these errors, even after I did this and deleted the Zclass and all instances of it. <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: Josef Meile > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:23:42 +0100 > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Couldn't install ZCatalog - or OFSP > > --- In zope@y..., george donnelly wrote: >> hi, I'm trying out 2.6.0 (the binary) and running it for the first > time on >> RH7.2 w/ instance home I get these errors in my supid log file saying > zope >> couldn't install OFSP or ZCatalog (see below). > > I had the same error message, but finally I could solve it or that's why I > think. I will do the final test with my real server this weekend. > > According to those two messages: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/102321 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/102714 > > There is a problem when you have ZClases that are subclasses of > ObjectManager because something changed in the new Zope. I > tried what they said there and convined it with some steps more: > > 1- Be sure of having a copy of your Zope in another place, just in > case this fails. > > 2- From the ZClasses that are based on ObjectManager, delete the > suboject references in the "Subobjects Tab" and save changes. > > 3- Export them. > > 4- Import them in your new installation and then add the subobject > references. > > 5- From your old zope export your other ZClasses and import them > in your new installation. > > 6- Install the other products that you are using. > > 7- Export all your old Zope site and reimport it in a new installation. > > I know it's a really boring and long procedure, but at least it seems to > work. > > Regards, > Josef. > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > From ken@cleveland.lug.net Thu Dec 12 21:44:16 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:44:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat In-Reply-To: <000a01c2a21f$2381f300$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: Andrew, You did a pretty good job with the startup script. There's a few things here to deal with. But addressing your original request first: - run "grep ^id /etc/inittab" and show us what that gives you. - run "ls -l /etc/rc.d/rc?.d/*zope" and paste the output from that into your reply also. - run "grep zope /etc/passwd" and send us the output as well (if there is any). If you want to edit out from your reply the characters between the first and second colons (':'), you can do that. If this grep returns anything, it'll probably be just an 'x'. We're close to fixing this. Thanks, ken Andrew Durdin at 07:43 (UTC+1100) on Fri, 13 Dec 2002 said: = Thanks for the quick response, ken. = = ----- Original Message ----- = From: "ken" = > Which linux are you using? = = I'm using RedHat 7.3. = = > When you cd to /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and run the script (say its name is = > zope) a la = > = > /zope start = > = > what happens? Does it start up? = = Yes, when I do that (as root), zope starts with the following messages: = ================================================================= = [root@box init.d]# ./zope start = Starting Zope: [root@box init.d]# /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/z2.py:385: = UserWarning: Y = ou are running Python version 2.2.2. This Python version has not yet been = tested = with Zope and you may experience operational problems as a result. Consider = using = Python 2.1.3 instead. = warnings.warn(err) = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:04 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 1375 = /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/z2.py:385: UserWarning: You are running Python version = 2.2.2 = . This Python version has not yet been tested with Zope and you may = experience op = erational problems as a result. Consider using Python 2.1.3 instead. = warnings.warn(err) = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:15 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: = '144707896_1036222 = 030.749935' = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:15 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database = '144707896_1036222030.749935' at = /temp_folder = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:16 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Fri Dec 13 = 07:34:16 200 = 2 = Hostname: box.lan = Port: 8080 = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:16 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Fri Dec 13 = 07:34:16 2002 = Hostname: box.lan = Port: 8021 = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:17 INFO(0) ZServer PCGI Server started at Fri Dec 13 = 07:34:17 200 = 2 = Unix socket: /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/var/pcgi.soc = ------ = 2002-12-13T07:34:17 INFO(0) z2 Running Zope as 'nobody' can compromise your = Zope f = iles; consider using a dedicated user account for Zope = ================================================================= = = > Finally do a "grep ^si: /etc/inittab" and paste the output into your = > reply. = = si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit = = = The script I use for starting Zope is as follows: = ======================================================================= = #!/bin/sh = # Startup script for Zope = # = # description: Run zope (web management) server = = # Source function library. = . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions = = prog="Zope" = = start() { = echo -n $"Starting $prog: " = /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/start -u nobody & = RETVAL=$? = return $RETVAL = } = = stop() { = /usr/local/zope/2.6.0/stop = return 0 = } = = case "$1" in = start) = start = ;; = = stop) = stop = ;; = = status) = status $prog = ;; = restart) = stop = start = ;; = condrestart) = ;; = = *) = echo $"Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|status}" = exit 1 = = esac = = exit 0 = ======================================================================= = = In /etc/rc3.d, the link to the zope script is currently "S96zope" = = Andrew = = = = > Andrew Durdin at 22:08 (UTC+1100) on Thu, 12 Dec 2002 said: = > = > = Hi, = > = = > = I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially = (less = > = setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine = for = > = better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* = when = > = I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up = a = > = script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which = is = > = the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... = [ = > = OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. = > = Unfortunately, I don't have the details of the script with me at the = moment = > = (I'll get them ASAP), but until then does anyone know any reasons that = might = > = be causing this? Is there anything in particular that has to be started = > = before Zope? At present I'm trying to run it with ZServer on port 8080 = > = (although Apache is running on the box on port 80). = > = = > = Thanks, = > = = > = Andrew = > = = > = *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about = > = running as "nobody" = > = = > = = > = _______________________________________________ = > = Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = > = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope = > = ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** = > = (Related lists - = > = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce = > = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) = > = = > = From David.Bear@asu.edu Thu Dec 12 23:36:01 2002 From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:36:01 -0700 Subject: [Zope] formulator objects Message-ID: <20021212163601.F1310@moroni.pp.asu.edu> I'm trying to understand formulator. From python I want to access each field provided from the formulator form. I tried the following and get an error. What methods are available on each of the field objects in a form? What kind of objects are they? I was thinking that form.get_fields() returned a dictionary with the field name the dictionary element, and the value of the field the value of the element. But the following code throws and exception with fnamelist['fname'] -- each name in fnamelist is the name of a field object on my form. any pointers? # script to take formulator form object and spit it back for testing from Products.Formulator.Errors import ValidationError, FormValidationError # form = context.addTechDoc print "the form object %s" % form print "==
\n" fieldlist = [] fnamelist = ['author', 'createdON', 'docTitle', 'keywords', 'techDocBody'] print form.get_fields() print "==
\n" cnt = 0 for field in form.get_fields(): fieldlist.append(field.get_value(fnamelist[cnt])) cnt = cnt + 1 print "the field list
\n" print "%s" % fieldlist return(printed) -- David Bear College of Public Programs/ASU Mail Code 0803 From andrew@logicalprogression.net Fri Dec 13 00:23:09 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:23:09 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat In-Reply-To: <000501c2a1ce$d53a5520$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: Er, you the problems are in the warnings! Zope doesn't yet run on Python 2.2 (Zope 2.7 will). It sounds like there's also a problem with the user it's running as, Zope can run as nobody but that's not really a very good idea as you'd have to allow user nobody to write key Zope files which would be odd. The simplest way to get Zope running from RH is just to add a line to rc.local - that's what we do. A On 12/12/02 11:08 am, "Andrew Durdin" wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially (less > setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine for > better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* when > I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up a > script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which is > the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... [ > OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. > Unfortunately, I don't have the details of the script with me at the moment > (I'll get them ASAP), but until then does anyone know any reasons that might > be causing this? Is there anything in particular that has to be started > before Zope? At present I'm trying to run it with ZServer on port 8080 > (although Apache is running on the box on port 80). > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about > running as "nobody" > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From andrew@logicalprogression.net Fri Dec 13 00:26:25 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:26:25 +0000 Subject: [Zope] DTMLFile In-Reply-To: <20021130121732.GA1810@aragorn.wdw> Message-ID: Yes this is a subtle one! Zope methods that begin with "manage_" by default require the user to be have the manager role. It's one of these old legacy things that probably will be changed at some stage. A On 30/11/02 12:17 pm, "Steffen Hausmann" wrote: > Hi, > > I am working on an external method with a form and a button on it. > > > The method called by the button is defined in my class like this. > manage_addTerminhinweis=DTMLFile("dtml/manage_addTerminhinweis", > globals()) > > The manage_addTerminhinweis file doesn't use any dtml expressions. > > If I press the button as admin (inituser) everything works fine, > but if I login as a normal user (defined in an acl_user folder) who > has the same rights as admin I'm getting an unauthorized error. > > Any ideas why this doesn't work. > > MfG Steffen From andrew@logicalprogression.net Fri Dec 13 00:29:15 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:29:15 +0000 Subject: [Zope] standard_error_message in Python Product In-Reply-To: <20021125132904.GE774@thomas-guettler.de> Message-ID: I'm using: from Globals import DTMLFile Standard_error_message=DTMLFile("dtml/standard_error_message", globals()) Which is tickety-boo (that's British English for works fine) A On 25/11/02 1:29 pm, "Thomas Guettler" wrote: > Hi! > > Is it possible to write a standard_error_message as a method in a > python product? > > "def standard_error_message(self, **kwargs)" > > --> this does not work. I get: An Error occured while displaying the > error message ... > > > I don't get it working, according to the collector it should be > working with 2.6.0 > > Version: > (Zope 2.6.0 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), > python 2.1.3, linux2) > > thomas From myroslav@zope.net.ua Fri Dec 13 00:31:23 2002 From: myroslav@zope.net.ua (Myroslav Opyr) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 02:31:23 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <3DF7D3F4.9030707@zope.net.ua> References: <3DF5E83B.15967.1F7F0C43@localhost> <20021211080228.GA22571@codeworks.lt> <3DF7D3F4.9030707@zope.net.ua> Message-ID: Hi, as Guido told: > pystone uses time.clock(), which (on Unix/Linux) measures CPU time, > not wall clock time. Thus speed is pure processing speed and small decrease in pystones is extra expenses for process switching. I'm updating list on http://plone.org/Members/interra/hardware There is a bit of ambiguity in AMD processors clocking... I was trying to put not real frequency but its Intel equivalent, correct me if I am wrong. m. -- Myroslav Opyr zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua Myroslav Opyr wrote: > I've found you as translator of pystones.py test into Python (from C). > Can you give explanation of the below fact of running several parralel > pystones.py processes and not affecting results. Is pure processing time > calculated? > > Thank you, > > m. > -- > Myroslav Opyr > zope.net.ua * Ukrainian Zope Hosting > e-mail: myroslav@zope.net.ua > > Marius Gedminas wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 09:44:18PM +0200, Myroslav Opyr wrote: >> [ This was about a Dual-CPU Xeon, IIRC ] >> >>>> and running two pystones at once: >>>> >>>> [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python >>>> Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py & ; >>>> Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/bin/python >>>> Zope-2.6.0-linux2-x86/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py >>>> [1] 500 >>>> Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.01 >>>> This machine benchmarks at 19960.1 pystones/second >>>> Pystone(1.1) time for 100000 passes = 5.02 >>>> This machine benchmarks at 19920.3 pystones/second >>>> [bkc@strader ~/Zope]$ >>> >>> Effectively doubling perfomance... >> >> This is a *single* CPU Athlon (XP 1800+, 1.5 GHz) >> >> $ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py >> Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 >> This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second >> >> $ python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py &\ >> python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py &\ >> python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py & >> python /usr/lib/python2.2/test/pystone.py >> [1] 23242 >> [2] 23243 >> [3] 23244 >> Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.52 >> This machine benchmarks at 19230.8 pystones/second >> Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 >> Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.53 >> This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second >> This machine benchmarks at 18867.9 pystones/second >> Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.54 >> This machine benchmarks at 18518.5 pystones/second >> >> They all seem to run sequentially, and the numbers do not change even if >> I try to run 32 of them in parallel. >> >> Marius Gedminas From andrew@logicalprogression.net Fri Dec 13 00:38:25 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:38:25 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Problem with AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_role('X')" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's better to do: REQUEST.AUTHENTICATED_USER can be less secure. I don't understand the other bit of your problem I'm afraid. Have you tried with another browser? I've found that cookie based authentication (I use CookieCrumbler) is far nicer for the user, especially for things such as logging out. Something to consider. A On 12/12/02 2:34 pm, "complaw@hal-pc.org" wrote: > I'm stumped. > > I have a block of dtml code in my standard_html_header file that is supposed > to > tailor the menu line depending upon the user's role (once authenticated). For > example, the standard_html_header file contains something like: > > > ... make a (more extensive) menu line > > ... make a menu line for non-authenticated users > > > I have a login menu item for the non-authenticated users, giving them an > opportunity to authenticate. The authentication scheme calls a DTML Method > (named "logger") that has security settings such that the challenge/response > routine is initiated. Once the user is able to run logger, it takes them back > to the index_html file (with the standard_html_header file mentioned above). > When comming from the logger object, the menu is constructed correctly > (according to the user's role). However, when coming back to index_html from > somewhere else (say another folder), it goes back to the non-authenticated > menu > as if I never logged in (i.e., the code of the AUTHENTICATED_USER has somehow > changed or is being ignored). Note, when I click on the login menu button > (calling the logger object, I immediately get the correct menu (without the > challenge/response). > > Is there something to remedy this problem? > > TIA, > > Ron > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From andrew@logicalprogression.net Fri Dec 13 00:44:18 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:44:18 +0000 Subject: [Zope] standard_error_message in Python Product In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 13/12/02 12:29 am, "Andrew Veitch" wrote: > I'm using: > > from Globals import DTMLFile > > Standard_error_message=DTMLFile("dtml/standard_error_message", globals()) That should of course be with a lower case 's' in standard_error_message, I'm afraid my mail client automatically changed it into a capital letter because it was at the start of a sentence. A From andrew@logicalprogression.net Fri Dec 13 00:53:13 2002 From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:53:13 +0000 Subject: [Zope] How can I "export" objects without user interference In-Reply-To: <000301c2a11e$33b50f70$2334a8c0@RUNGE> Message-ID: I would think that copying Data.fs is probably a better way of doing your backup. Especially as it's a filestore that keeps changes. manage_exportObject is in OFS.ObjectManager which would do the export for you. A On 11/12/02 2:04 pm, "Thomas Runge" wrote: > Hi! > Using "export", it seems to be easy to do a "backup" of content within Zope. > > But to do this, I have to log in (of course I have to supply user-name and > password) before selecting my object to backup and selecting "Export". So I > will have to do every "backup" manually... > > Is there any way to "script" this, so a backup can be done automatically? > > --- Thanks. > Thomas > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From dmatsueda@bsr.org Fri Dec 13 00:52:21 2002 From: dmatsueda@bsr.org (Dean Matsueda) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:52:21 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Query Message-ID: <0F2A4291C66C364FB257F609514EAE2C0E6FAE@bsrmail.bsr.org> Great, thanks Paul & Nitin for your answers! Cheers, ..dean -----Original Message----- From: Nitin Borwankar [mailto:nitin@borwankar.com] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 12:43 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Query Paul Winkler wrote: >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:16:23PM -0800, Dean Matsueda wrote: > [...] >* any comparisons to Tomcat? or other Java-based frameworks? > >No. ;) > =20 > Yes :-)) Note I use both Zope and Tomcat so this is not based on religious feelings. Using Zope will allow you to focus on getting your work done without=20 having to wade through tons of tutorials and docs about the next Java API, SDK version security toolkit, ... all before=20 getting one page up. =20 You will get work done in 20-25% of the time with your mind feeling a=20 lot lighter. =20 The Zope database adapter and DTML support for SQL queries allows=20 powerful apps to be built rapidly and also maintained with much less pain. The only reason you would not use Zope and use Tomcat would be if there=20 was a corporate policy of using Java and J2EE and/or you had to be=20 tightly coupled into some existing Java application/platform. ( Loosely=20 coupled you can still do with Zope and XML messaging/SOAP). That is the current reason I use Tomcat in some areas. --=20 Statistics show that most people are in the majority, while fewer are in the minority Nitin Borwankar nitin@borwankar.com _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -=20 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From dev@projekt01.ch Fri Dec 13 01:01:51 2002 From: dev@projekt01.ch (dev@projekt01.ch) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 02:01:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ms word? Message-ID: <002801c2a243$38747520$0b01a8c0@projekt01.local> Hello together Whats a good way for to handle word documents in zope/cmf/plone on a win server? Mit freundlichen Grüssen Roger Ineichen ___________________________ Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch Langackerstrasse 8 6330 Cham phone +41 (0)41 781 01 78 mobile +41 (0)79 340 52 32 fax +41 (0)41 781 00 78 email r.ineichen@projekt01.ch ___________________________ END OF MESSAGE From sean.upton@uniontrib.com Fri Dec 13 01:10:23 2002 From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:10:23 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ms word? Message-ID: I have heard about somebody doing cool stuff with the CMFTypes product us= ing PyUNO and OpenOffice as a means to read/parse MSWord docs on the server side, effectively allowing you to use External Editor and MSWord to edit word docs, but have them saved as other things (html?) via the OpenOffice filter APIs exposed to CMFTypes via PyUNO. I would post this question to the plone-users or plone-developers lists (sourceforge), as this is new stuff. I'm also interested in this (but on Linux and OSX on the server side, instead of windows), but haven't really had time to investigate. Sean -----Original Message----- From: dev@projekt01.ch [mailto:dev@projekt01.ch] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:02 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] ms word? Hello together Whats a good way for to handle word documents in zope/cmf/plone on a win server? Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen Roger Ineichen ___________________________ Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch Langackerstrasse 8 6330 Cham phone +41 (0)41 781 01 78 mobile +41 (0)79 340 52 32 fax +41 (0)41 781 00 78 email r.ineichen@projekt01.ch ___________________________ END OF MESSAGE _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -=20 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au Fri Dec 13 01:30:19 2002 From: THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au (THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:30:19 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD Message-ID: <1039743023.4315.4.camel@etg-sun-1> Hmmm Actually I will take some of this back. It seems even on my single CPU notebook multiple pystones running concurrently do not exhibit the behaviour I would expect from a CPU oriented benchmark. Rgds Tim On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 17:38, THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au wrote: > Gotta add my bit. > > > People often give short shrift to Solaris/SPARC running python, > and pystone isn't a real world test but. > > As you know python perf/pystone seems directly attributable to Mhz > so on my Dual 750Mhz Sun 280R > > A single pystone is on this box is > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 1.25 > This machine benchmarks at 8000 pystones/second > > Whereas 16 pystones running simultaneously on the same box > (note increased loop count to 50000 to be sure all jobs are likely to > impact each other) > > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 > This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.3 > This machine benchmarks at 7936.51 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.31 > This machine benchmarks at 7923.93 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.32 > This machine benchmarks at 7911.39 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 > This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 > This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 > This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 > This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.33 > This machine benchmarks at 7898.89 pystones/second > Pystone(1.1) time for 50000 passes = 6.35 > This machine benchmarks at 7874.02 pystones/second > > So what we see is a single instance python is not really running as > fast as it could possibly, and that the increase in load for each new > process is not linear. If the tasks where running as fast as the CPU can > do the job, then 4 pystone jobs should each take twice as long as two. > > So whilst solaris may not be the fastest pystone box for MHz/$ you may > find you can do far more with it if you run a bunch of Zeo servers ;-) > > If you are running lot's of Zope servers then you need to look at what > your horizontal scalability will be. (ie how does it handle a load from > multiple processes.) This test obviously doesn't stress memory. > > See ya > > Tim > > > On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 22:55, Roel Van den Bergh wrote: > > Here are some stats to add :-) > > > > Dell PowerApp 120 Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) Dual 1Ghz, 1GB PC133 ECC > > SDRAM > > running in single proccessor mode > > > > [root@root]# python /home/zope/2-5-0/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.87 > > This machine benchmarks at 11494.3 pystones/second > > [root@root]# python /home/Python-2.1.3/Lib/test/pystone.py > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.86 > > This machine benchmarks at 11627.9 pystones/second > > [root@root]# python /usr/lib/python1.5/test/pystone.py > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.85 > > This machine benchmarks at 11764.7 pystones/second > > [root@root]# python /usr/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.86 > > This machine benchmarks at 11627.9 pystones/second > > [root@root]# python /usr/local/lib/python2.1/test/pystone.py > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.87 > > This machine benchmarks at 11494.3 pystones/second > > [root@root]# python /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/Python-2.1.3/Lib/test/pystone.py > > Pystone(1.1) time for 10000 passes = 0.85 > > This machine benchmarks at 11764.7 pystones/second > > > > Roel. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > (Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > DISCLAIMER: This email, including any attachments, is intended only for use > by the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or personal information > and may also be the subject of legal privilege. 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Emails and their attachments may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. All attachments are opened at the recipient's risk. From zope@cozydot.com Fri Dec 13 02:13:09 2002 From: zope@cozydot.com (Yury German) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:13:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] WYSIWYG Editors for Zope? In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F50200102765B@eiger.cs.utwente.nl> References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F50200102765B@eiger.cs.utwente.nl> Message-ID: <1815.10.100.100.30.1039745589.squirrel@webmail.technologysecure.com> >>Is there a WYSIWYG html/text editor which can be plugged into Zope? >> Structured text is better than nothing, but most all >> commercial "big boys" >> in CMS products provide WYSIWYG functioinality for the >> non-technical types >> to create and maintain pages and content. I don't see >> anything like this for >> Zope yet. Brian, I started a sourceforge project to develop an editor that can insert XHTML and DTML codes within a document. I am a few weeks away in releasing the 0.1 Version which will have full support for XHTML in insert mode. I have set it up for now to give visual results in IE on windows and Netscape on Linux. If anyone wants to help I can use it in deciding which DTML tags to include in the 0.2 version. I will announce here when the project will be in usable stages but the board is up if you want to help decide the progress. Web site on sourceforge is http://sourceforge.net/projects/vimweb/ Yury German From abmanock@earthlink.net Fri Dec 13 02:42:04 2002 From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock) Date: 12 Dec 2002 21:42:04 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat In-Reply-To: <000501c2a1ce$d53a5520$1400000a@lan> References: <000501c2a1ce$d53a5520$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: <1039747325.1154.204.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> I'm currently working on RPMS for Zope 2.6.1b1 The SRPM, along with detailed install docs should be ready to test in a few days, as I am hoping to resolve any possible issues with the packaging by the end of the 2.6.1 beta cycle. I'll test with at least RedHat 8.0 and 7.3, contribs will of course be welcome to make things work on other rpm based distributions and versions. Keep an eye on http://www.zope.org/Members/dingo/Zope_RPMS I probably won't be rolling a 2.6.0 RPM release unless there's significant demand (eg, someone emails me and asks me to :-) Adam On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 06:08, Andrew Durdin wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running Zope on my Win98 box just to try it out initially (less > setup involved), but now I'm trying to install it on my Linux machine for > better stability etc. I've successfully installed it, and it runs fine* when > I start it manually, but I cannot get it to start on bootup: I've set up a > script in /etc/rc.d/init.d/ and a link to it in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/ (which is > the correct runlevel), but although on bootup it says "Starting Zope.... [ > OK ]", Zope actually doesn't launch. > Unfortunately, I don't have the details of the script with me at the moment > (I'll get them ASAP), but until then does anyone know any reasons that might > be causing this? Is there anything in particular that has to be started > before Zope? At present I'm trying to run it with ZServer on port 8080 > (although Apache is running on the box on port 80). > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > *Except for a warning about Python 2.2.2 being too new, and one about > running as "nobody" > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From zeaxis555@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 05:35:18 2002 From: zeaxis555@yahoo.com (Dreaming Warrior) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:35:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Zope] ImportError: No module named ldap In-Reply-To: <20021213051802.18087.93763.Mailman@mail.python.org> Message-ID: <20021213053518.2051.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com> hello all, i have installed the python-ldap using python-ldap-21.0.0pre05.tar.gz i am getting this error 2002-12-12T13:22:10 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import Products.LDAPUserFolder Traceback (innermost last): File /home/zeo/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 531, in import_product File /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py, line 13, in ? File /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py, line 34, in ? File /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py, line 19, in ? (Object: aq_inner) File /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py, line 32, in ? ImportError: No module named ldap can any one help me out.. thanks in advance rockash.... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From js@aixtraware.de Fri Dec 13 07:24:55 2002 From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:24:55 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ImportError: No module named ldap In-Reply-To: <20021213053518.2051.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021213053518.2051.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <202880000.1039764295@[10.2.1.1]> from the LDAPUserFolder README: **Requirements** In order for this product to run you will need to provide the following items: * a working LDAP server (see http://www.openldap.org/) * the python-ldap module (see http://python-ldap.sourceforge.net/) * optional ZBabel 2b3 (see http://demo.iuveno-net.de/) --On Donnerstag, Dezember 12, 2002 21:35:18 -0800 Dreaming Warrior=20 wrote: > hello all, > i have installed the python-ldap using > python-ldap-21.0.0pre05.tar.gz > i am getting this error > > 2002-12-12T13:22:10 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import > Products.LDAPUserFolder > Traceback (innermost last): > File > /home/zeo/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, > line > 531, in import_product > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py, > line > 13, in ? > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py, > line 34, in ? > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py, > line > 19, in ? > (Object: aq_inner) > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py, > line 32, > in ? > ImportError: No module named ldap > > > can any one help me out.. > > thanks in advance > > rockash.... > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Joachim Schmitz -------------------------------------------------------------------- AixtraWare Ingenieurb=FCro f=FCr Internetanwendungen H=FCsgenstr. 33a, D-52457 Aldenhoven Telefon: +49-2464-8851, FAX: +49-2464-905163 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Key fingerprint =3D DA10 CC82 62F8 1DBB 39A1 1EDC 725B 3317 A8D7 C3A6 Keyserver: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ From ausum_studio@hotmail.com Fri Dec 13 07:42:42 2002 From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 02:42:42 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Pilot, a navigational aid for ZMI coders Message-ID: Pilot is a simple tool that generates floating menus of a site's folder structure and content, callable by double clicking ZMI's pages. Aimed to CMF portals, I've been using this helpful aid since a long while ago, and now I'd like to share it with the community. I'm currently using it to quickly reach folders, methods, favorites and recent objects, but it can be hacked to become a standard navigational aid for the CMF. Problem is that it uses a javascript menu that is licensed, but it's likely that now there are some other free ones than can be used instead. If anyone knows of any reliable, please let me know so that I can perform the changes and then release the code. More details at the screenshots page. Ausum Screenshot's page and link to a working demo: (no released code yet) http://www.zope.org/Members/ausum/Pilot/index_html From jmruiz@it.uc3m.es Fri Dec 13 09:45:24 2002 From: jmruiz@it.uc3m.es (Juan Manuel Ruiz Garcia) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:45:24 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Not logging Exceptions Message-ID: <001801c2a28c$5c886900$e08d75a3@apt.it.uc3m.es> Hi, My Zope System has stopped logging exceptions to error_log... I've restarted, but it didn't work Everything was going ok, bu5t suddenly it stopped logging. Any idea? Also, I want to remove all the undo info and I have read about 'pack' it... how can that be done? Tahnks in advance From elena.schulz@gmx.net Fri Dec 13 10:08:54 2002 From: elena.schulz@gmx.net (Elena Schulz) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:08:54 +0100 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods References: <20021213010902.23227.7798.Mailman@mail.python.org> Message-ID: <00ff01c2a293$768f7300$fe78a8c0@PCA> Hi Paul, I want to pass many vars to some other functions of the same py-module than that connected to the external method. If possible not as explicid args as there are many and they dont' change while processing. Could be global constants, too. By the way, is it possible to interrupt the processing of external methods without shutting down the server? -- many thanks for your replies, Elena You wrote: Stop right there... that's a syntax error in Python: SyntaxError: name 'var1' is local and global What are you really trying to do? Why do you pass a parameter to myFuntionA and then try to make the name of the parameter (which is local to the function by definition) a global? --PW From ashleylloyd@hotmail.com Fri Dec 13 12:06:58 2002 From: ashleylloyd@hotmail.com (Ashley Lloyd) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:06:58 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Newbie Question: Creating a ZClass Message-ID: I've tried two or three tutorials on Creating a ZClass, and seem to get the same type of error every time. Following the example in The Zope Book, Ch.14 (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/CustomZopeObjects.stx) when I get to the part "Go ahead and select ZooExhibit from the add list and create a new Exhibit with the id 'FangedRabbits'. ", I get the following error after clicking Add: Error Type: NameError Error Value: global name 'ZooExhibit' is not defined Can anyone help with this? I've looked at posts in the past that have asked the same, but there doesn't seem to be anything that helps. 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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From rene@outerheaven.net Fri Dec 13 12:32:52 2002 From: rene@outerheaven.net (Rene Veerman) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:32:52 +0100 Subject: [Zope] newbie running zope under apache2 on freebsd Message-ID: <20021213123252.GA2266@outerheaven.net> I've added the following to my httpd.conf; RewriteEngine on RewriteRule ^/Zope$ /Zope/ [R] RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) RewriteRule ^/Zope/(.*) /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/$1 [env=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] Options +ExecCGI but when i ask for localhost/Zope, i get this error in /var/log/httpd-error.log; [Wed Dec 11 19:15:26 2002] [error] [client 192.168.102.226] File does not exist: /usr/local/www/cgi-bin-dist/Zope.cgi/ However; $ ls /usr/local/www/cgi-bin-dist/ Zope.cgi pcgi-wrapper printenv test-cgi When I change the RewriteRule in httpd.conf to read RewriteRule ^/Zope/(.*) /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi$1 [env=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] and ask for it again, I get no errors in httpd-error.log anymore, but a plain dump of the CGI script in my browser, which is *also* not what I want ;) Help is very much appreciated. From jens@zope.com Fri Dec 13 13:11:49 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:11:49 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ImportError: No module named ldap In-Reply-To: <20021213053518.2051.qmail@web40608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <70A5F992-0E9C-11D7-A7AD-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> i'm not sure what you define as "installing" here, but it is clear that the python binary used to run your zope does not know about the python-ldap module yet. you need to run setup.py build and then setup.py install with the same python binary that runs your zope. if you have a zope binary version the python binary is in /bin i think. jens On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 00:35 US/Eastern, Dreaming Warrior wrote: > hello all, > i have installed the python-ldap using > python-ldap-21.0.0pre05.tar.gz > i am getting this error > > 2002-12-12T13:22:10 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import > Products.LDAPUserFolder > Traceback (innermost last): > File > /home/zeo/Zope-2.5.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, > line > 531, in import_product > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py, > line > 13, in ? > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py, > line 34, in ? > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py, > line > 19, in ? > (Object: aq_inner) > File > /home/zeo/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py, > line 32, > in ? > ImportError: No module named ldap > > > can any one help me out.. > > thanks in advance > > rockash.... From jens@zope.com Fri Dec 13 13:14:59 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 08:14:59 -0500 Subject: [Zope] newbie running zope under apache2 on freebsd In-Reply-To: <20021213123252.GA2266@outerheaven.net> Message-ID: do you have any particular requirement to run PCGI? if not - just don't. use proxying rewrite rules instead. less moving wheels and simpler to set up. jens On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 07:32 US/Eastern, Rene Veerman wrote: > I've added the following to my httpd.conf; > > RewriteEngine on > RewriteRule ^/Zope$ /Zope/ [R] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) > RewriteRule ^/Zope/(.*) /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/$1 > [env=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] > > > Options +ExecCGI > > > but when i ask for localhost/Zope, i get this error in > /var/log/httpd-error.log; > > [Wed Dec 11 19:15:26 2002] [error] [client 192.168.102.226] File does > not exist: /usr/local/www/cgi-bin-dist/Zope.cgi/ > > However; > > $ ls /usr/local/www/cgi-bin-dist/ > Zope.cgi pcgi-wrapper printenv test-cgi > > When I change the RewriteRule in httpd.conf to read > > RewriteRule ^/Zope/(.*) /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi$1 > [env=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] > > and ask for it again, I get no errors in httpd-error.log anymore, but > a plain > dump of the CGI script in my browser, which is *also* not what I want > ;) > > Help is very much appreciated. From Andreas Jung Thu Dec 12 07:06:54 2002 From: Andreas Jung (Andreas Jung) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:06:54 +0100 Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog: sorting on multiple indexes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <592752.1039680414@[0.0.0.3]> The sequence.sort() method supports multidimensional sorting. CHeck the docs for details. -aj --On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2002 15:04 +0100 Giuseppe Bonelli wrote: > Hi all, > > this appears to be an old question, but I have not found any reply on the > mailing list archives. > > Is there any trick to sort the results from ZCatalog on two or more > indexes ? > > TIA, > > --peppo > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmeile@hotmail.com Fri Dec 13 15:15:24 2002 From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Albert Meile) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:15:24 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Couldn't install ZCatalog - or OFSP Message-ID: Hi, >FYI this has not helped me. I'm still getting these errors, even after I >did >this and deleted the Zclass and all instances of it. Perhaps you're overwritting your Data.fs file with the old one instead of exporting all your contents through the manage interface. I tried both approaches and the first one, which seems to be easier, didn't work for me. So I tried the second one and it worked in my test server. Unfortunatelly I'm on vacations now and I haven't updated my current production server; however, my test server uses real data. As soon as I can, I'll update my server and I'll tell you if I have the same problem. Regards, Josef _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Fri Dec 13 15:38:19 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Configuring Zope's python for ssl Message-ID: I need to write an external script that access pages via https. When I try this using an HTTPSConnection object I get an error stating that ssl is not available. I noticed in the socket.py file that the ssl module is available "if configured". I have found threads that show me how to configure python for ssl but I'm curious if the python that comes with Zope can be configured similarly. Any ideas? Thanks, Kevin From a.peluso@fulltrading.it Fri Dec 13 16:11:16 2002 From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (catonano) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:11:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? Message-ID: <82356387-0EB5-11D7-AF29-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> Hello all, I'd love you to give me your opinion and some help about what follows. I just downloaded Zope to my machine (MacOs X!!) and I'm an old style mac user. Now, I promised I'd have tried to realize a small solution for monday morning. I want a Zcatalogue to index some objects on the base of a property. This property is the name of the file BUT the extension, for example: code2.html property: code2 code88.html property: code88 and so on. That's because I want Zope to search for files whose code CONTAINS a given string. As far as I can tell, the standard machinery that comes with Zcatalogue searches on the files names ONLY with exact corrispondence, since the type of the file name property is ... well I don't remember. The point is I thought to give each file with a property of the right type so Zope could search adhering to my wishes. Am I right? Now these files are really a lot. Some users upload them to an ftp folder and I should have a script that adds the property to each file when it lands in my folder (AND fill it properly). How do I do this? I looked at the Folder API but I didn't find a way to detect a file arrival. Should I use a Zclass instead? And how? In the meantime I keep editing those files manually but I admit this makes me feel quite dummy. thanks so much for ANY hint Bye Catonano From alet@librelogiciel.com Fri Dec 13 16:31:38 2002 From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:31:38 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? In-Reply-To: <82356387-0EB5-11D7-AF29-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> References: <82356387-0EB5-11D7-AF29-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> Message-ID: <20021213163138.GA18235@mail.librelogiciel.com> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 05:11:16PM +0100, catonano wrote: > > This property is the name of the file BUT the extension, for example: > > code2.html property: code2 > code88.html property: code88 add an index of type FieldIndex to your ZCatalog, name it by the name you want to search on, e.g. itemcode create a Script (Python) object named itemcode in your root which contains only : return context.getId().split('.')[-1] Go to the Advanced tag of your ZCatalog and click Update Go to the Find tab of your ZCatalog and search for all objects you want to add to the ZCatalog use the ZCatalog like this : result = context["Catalog"].searchResults(itemcode='blah') will find all objects which itemcode's value is 'blah' this is compltely untested but should work bye, Jerome Alet From mlewis@exasource.com Fri Dec 13 16:51:36 2002 From: mlewis@exasource.com (Michael) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:51:36 -0700 Subject: [Zope] Newbie Question: Creating a ZClass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200212131654.gBDGsh79010614@dick.jymis.com> Can you provide examples of the code you've used up to this point? It's really hard to say without seeing what you've done so far and most people won't have the time to read chapter 14 to try and figure it out. FYI, I had some problems initially with the book examples as well, so I tried out the "How to build a searchable job board" tutorial and it does work. it walks you through creating a product, ZClasses, making them Catalog Aware, building a search interface, a report, etc. Michael On Friday 13 December 2002 05:06 am, Ashley Lloyd wrote: > I've tried two or three tutorials on Creating a ZClass, and seem to get the > same type of error every time. > > Following the example in The Zope Book, Ch.14 > (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/CustomZopeObjects >.stx) > > when I get to the part "Go ahead and select ZooExhibit from the add list > and create a new Exhibit with the id 'FangedRabbits'. ", I get the > following error after clicking Add: > Error Type: NameError > Error Value: global name 'ZooExhibit' is not defined > > Can anyone help with this? I've looked at posts in the past that have asked > the same, but there doesn't seem to be anything that helps. > > Thanks very much > > Ashley From wilson@visi.com Fri Dec 13 17:07:16 2002 From: wilson@visi.com (Tim Wilson) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:07:16 -0600 Subject: [Zope] External Editor not updating content Message-ID: <200212131107.16666.wilson@visi.com> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get Casey's External Editor product to work, but I'm having= =20 trouble. I've configured the browser and clicking the icon opens the file= =20 just fine, but when I save the file and exit the editor the content never= =20 gets updated on the Web. One other thing I notice is that when zopeedit.p= y=20 starts up, I get a quick flash of a window that pops up and disappears in= a=20 split second. I have no idea if that window is presenting an error messag= e=20 or what it is. I'm running Zope 2.6.0 on Debian and my workstation is SuSE 8.1 with=20 Mozilla. Any suggestions? -Tim --=20 Tim Wilson Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA Science teacher, Linux fan, Zope developer, Grad. student, Daddy mailto:wilson@visi.com | http://qwerk.org/ | public key: 0x8C0F8813 From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt Fri Dec 13 17:22:39 2002 From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:22:39 +0200 Subject: [Zope] External Editor not updating content In-Reply-To: <200212131107.16666.wilson@visi.com> References: <200212131107.16666.wilson@visi.com> Message-ID: <200212131922.39424.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> On Friday 13 December 2002 19:07, Tim Wilson wrote: > Any suggestions? Yes.=20 1. Tkinter is not installed 2. Your editor is probably doing detach a file. --=20 Regards, Bogdan 1 + 1 =3D 3 =09=09-- from a Microsoft advertisement From sean.upton@uniontrib.com Fri Dec 13 17:23:59 2002 From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:23:59 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Apache-Squid-Zope, Squid-Apache-Zope.. or just Squid-Z ope? Message-ID: I think the best way to sum up Squid's configuration is: the problem is not that you need to understand all the configuration options in squid.conf, but you need to understand what to ignore... ;) The same, to some extent, is possibly true of Apache. My thoughts on trying to dive into Squid setup: -> Compile Squid from source, with enough of a file-descriptor ceiling (ulimit & hacking Makefile(s)) that you are not shooting yourself come high traffic time. Use --disable-internal-dns if you want to use /etc/hosts (note, this may have changed somewhere in 2.5PRE+). -> Run squid with ulimit set to give you enough file descriptors. -> Ignore anything/everything related to cache peering in squid.conf if you don't know you need it. -> Ignore this suggestion if you want to use ICP in Zope 2.6 (then read Toby's howto) -> Set the port you want to serve on (80) -> Use a redirector (http://freshmeat.net/projects/pyredir), set this part up in squid.conf -> Set up to 5-6 necessary items in the accel section -> Make sure your acls are set up to allow what you need. -> If you want ssl support, the setup (Squid 2.5) is really no more difficult than apache, with a few gotchas (way URLs are treated internally in Squid data structures is as http://foo not https://foo, so redirtors and ACLs can be confusing). If you try enough to (as much as possible) ignore the other stuff in squid.conf, you are likely okay. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Jung [mailto:lists@andreas-jung.com] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:32 PM To: Ausum Studio; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Apache-Squid-Zope, Squid-Apache-Zope.. or just Squid-Zope? To make it short: - use Apache+Zope if you have a smaller website and you don't like to hurt your brain about the 1000 configuration options of Squid. - use Squid-Zope if you have a high volume website and have some experiences with Squid. Apache offers less related configuration options than you have fingers at your hand. Squid has more than a hundred. -> Apache+Zope=easy to use, easy to setup -> Squid+Zope=requires more work and you should know what you're doing. -aj --On Dienstag, 5. November 2002 01:24 -0500 Ausum Studio wrote: > I know this has been treated before, but as much as I can see, people use > the three ways with apparent success. > Within the context that ZC is funding Squid to implement ESI, would any > member of the community try a theoretical resume (not a how-to) of the > issues regarding using Squid to cache Zope? Which one of the three > combinations is the best? > > > Ausum > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jo Meder" >> (...) >> We're using Apache in >> front of Squid in front of Zope to implement virtual hosts and caching >> wherever possible btw. >> >> Jo. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - - "Life is too short to (re)write parsers" - --------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From jel@vzavenue.net Fri Dec 13 17:24:46 2002 From: jel@vzavenue.net (Jim Lennox) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:24:46 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Need help with Openflow Demo, can't login as any of the users Message-ID: <000501c2a2cc$8bded5a0$f7fefea9@lagniappe> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2A2A2.A30A5440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks in advance for any help. First: I noticed that the Openflow demo that existed in .72 version isn't there anymore, so maybe it doesn't work with the 1.2 code base. Anyway Here is what I have done. Installed the 2.6 Zope on RedHat Linux 7.3 Installed Openflow 1.2 Placed demo in the imports directory >From the import/export screen imported the demo letting the ownership remain as it is. I now have a folder "Demo_english" with various sub folders. There is an acl_users sub folder with all the users. They don't exist at the higher (parent level) acl_users level. Ok, Now I exited my browser and removed the cookies. Brought the browser up, and entered the management screen and tried to log on as one of the users (I tried all of them). As an example, I tried user:alex, pwd: alex I immediately get "Authentication Failed! Do you want to retry?" Am I missing some fundamental import steps. thanks for any help Jim ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2A2A2.A30A5440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2A2A2.A30A5440-- From seillier@sycomore.fr Fri Dec 13 17:28:29 2002 From: seillier@sycomore.fr (sophie seillier) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:28:29 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope auhtentification with Apache Message-ID: <3DFA18BD.6010306@sycomore.fr> Hi, I work for a company which wants to integrate Zope and still use the web server Apache. I have to do tests to validate this way, and I have problems.... I have no problem to access Zope pages when there isn't authentification, but I don't manage to delegate the authentification to Zope, and I can't access the Zope "manage" page. I follow the Zope documentations' instructions whitout success. I modified the httpd.conf file with : RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) RewriteRule ^/Zope(.*) /var/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/$1 [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] where - the "RewriteRule" line is one long line - /var/www/cgi-bin is the "cgi-bin" directory of my Apache server. (the mod_rewrite is loaded by my Apache server) I have installed : Zope 2.6.0 Apache 2.0.40 on RedHat 8.0 I don't find interested logs about this login failed... Where can I find log about it ? I could'nt use Zap ton resolve my problem... I have to use the existing Apache server Web... I know there is an alternate way : recompiling the server with the flag -DSECURITY_HOLE_PASS_AUTHORIZATION. But I don't know the impact of this way on a production platform... Are all the configurations failed ? What are the instructions to recompile the Apache server ? Could you help me to resolve my problem please ? Thanks for your help Sophie. From creiman@kefta.com Fri Dec 13 17:43:31 2002 From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:43:31 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD In-Reply-To: <1039743023.4315.4.camel@etg-sun-1> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of > THoffman@indtech.wa.gov.au > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:30 PM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Intel vs AMD > > > Hmmm > > Actually I will take some of this back. > > It seems even on my single CPU notebook multiple pystones running > concurrently do not exhibit the behaviour I would expect from a CPU > oriented benchmark. > > Rgds > > Tim I was wondering about this... It turns out pystones uses clock(), which is CPU time used (on Unix systems). It other words, it shouldn't matter if you run 1 or 10 at once, you'll get the same answer. In terms of benchmarking python, this is great since it makes the test results stable. But you'll need a different benchmark to test multitasking/SMP situations. From creiman@kefta.com Fri Dec 13 17:53:33 2002 From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:53:33 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Pilot, a navigational aid for ZMI coders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Ausum > Studio > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:43 PM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Pilot, a navigational aid for ZMI coders > > > Pilot is a simple tool that generates floating menus of a site's folder > structure and content, callable by double clicking ZMI's pages. > Aimed to CMF > portals, I've been using this helpful aid since a long while ago, and now > I'd like to share it with the community. I'm currently using it to quickly > reach folders, methods, favorites and recent objects, but it can be hacked > to become a standard navigational aid for the CMF. > > Problem is that it uses a javascript menu that is licensed, but > it's likely > that now there are some other free ones than can be used instead. > If anyone > knows of any reliable, please let me know so that I can perform > the changes > and then release the code. More details at the screenshots page. > > > Ausum > > > Screenshot's page and link to a working demo: (no released code yet) > http://www.zope.org/Members/ausum/Pilot/index_html * blink * Wow. This looks really, really cool. I wish I'd thought of it. I did recently spend some time looking for good, free DHTML menus and couldn't find any that were both good and free. However, many offered free use for free products so you might be able to do things I couldn't. Twin helix is my favorite. It's very configurable and the author knows what's he's doing. Check out his DOM browser for a real treat. http://www.twinhelix.com/dynamic.html Another one that might be free-ish from a Dutch cat breeder: http://www.burmees.nl/menu/menus.htm There is also the monster at webreference which you've probably seen but that one definitely costs money. From myzope@gmx.net Fri Dec 13 18:17:12 2002 From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:17:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope auhtentification with Apache In-Reply-To: <3DFA18BD.6010306@sycomore.fr> References: <3DFA18BD.6010306@sycomore.fr> Message-ID: <3DFA2428.5090803@gmx.net> sophie seillier wrote: > Hi, > > I work for a company which wants to integrate Zope and still use the web > server Apache. > I have to do tests to validate this way, and I have problems.... > I have no problem to access Zope pages when there isn't > authentification, but I don't manage to delegate the authentification to > Zope, and I can't access the Zope "manage" page. I follow the Zope > documentations' instructions whitout success. I modified the httpd.conf > file with : > > RewriteEngine On > RewriteCond %{HTTP:Authorization} ^(.*) > RewriteRule ^/Zope(.*) /var/www/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi/$1 > [e=HTTP_CGI_AUTHORIZATION:%1,t=application/x-httpd-cgi,l] > Use apache as a proxy with the rewrite rules in proxy mode ([P]-flag). That way, you can still serve local pages, by rewriting just a special path (i.e. /zope). Save yourself the trouble with the cgi-stuff. I think on of the various apache-as-proxy-in-front-of-zope howtos on zope.org describe how to do that, but it's quite not so hard to figure out it yourself. cheers, oliver From pw_lists@slinkp.com Fri Dec 13 18:06:48 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:06:48 -0800 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods In-Reply-To: <00ff01c2a293$768f7300$fe78a8c0@PCA> References: <20021213010902.23227.7798.Mailman@mail.python.org> <00ff01c2a293$768f7300$fe78a8c0@PCA> Message-ID: <20021213180648.GH7509@slinkp.com> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:08:54AM +0100, Elena Schulz wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I want to pass many vars to some other functions of the same py-module than > that connected to the external method. If possible not as explicid args as > there are many and they dont' change while processing. Could be global > constants, too. You need to grok the simplifying power of dictionaries. Approach and be enlightened. ;) Here's one simple technique: def foo(stuff={}): return bar(stuff) + baz(stuff) def bar(stuff): return stuff.get('milk', 0) + stuff.get('cheese', 0) def baz(stuff): return stuff.get('bananas', 0) + stuff.get('tofu', 0) Then you can just call foo like this: foo({'milk': 21, 'cheese': 22, 'tofu': 999, 'spam': 999999}) Notice I didn't pass in 'bananas'. I handle this in the definition of baz by defaulting to 0 if stuff does not have a 'bananas' key. Python these days (since version 2 at least) gives you some nice syntactic sugar for passing dictionaries around: def foo(**args): ## args will be a dictionary constructed from all named ## arguments passed to foo. return bar(**args) + baz(**args) ## when used in a function call, the reverse happens: ## the items in the dictionary are passed as named ## arguments! What you gain by using this syntax is the ability to call foo like so: foo(milk=1, cheese=22, tofu=12) Finally, you can set defaults in a couple of ways. You can just combine other named args with the special dictionary argument syntax like so: def foo(milk=0, eggs=0, **args): args['milk'] = milk args['eggs'] = eggs return bar(**args) + baz(**args) But that would get tedious if there's really a lot of args you want to create defaults for. So define a separate defaults dictionary: defaults = {'milk': 84, 'potatoes': 33} def foo(**args): all_args = defaults.copy() # do this or else you'll modify defaults!! all_args.update(args) return bar(**all_args) + baz(**all_args) now you can do: foo(spam=27) and it'll behave as if you did: foo(spam=27, milk=defaults['milk'], potatoes=defaults['potatoes']) and you can add defaults just by adding to the global defaults dictionary. Easy to maintain, even with large numbers of defaults and a large chain of function calls. Remember that the **args syntax is just sugar; you could skip that and have all your functions take a single dictionary as their argument, as in the first example I gave. To use the global defaults with that, just do something like: def foo(args={}): all_args = defaults.copy() all_args.update(args) return bar(all_args) + baz(all_args) > By the way, is it possible to interrupt the processing of > external methods without shutting down the server? You want something else to interrupt them? >From another thread in Zope? No idea. If that's even possible, I suspect it would be very hard. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From pw_lists@slinkp.com Fri Dec 13 18:14:47 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:14:47 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? In-Reply-To: <20021213163138.GA18235@mail.librelogiciel.com> References: <82356387-0EB5-11D7-AF29-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> <20021213163138.GA18235@mail.librelogiciel.com> Message-ID: <20021213181447.GI7509@slinkp.com> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 05:31:38PM +0100, Jerome Alet wrote: > create a Script (Python) object named itemcode in your root which > contains only : > > return context.getId().split('.')[-1] that'll break the first time somebody uploads a file named "foo.bar.baz.html" ... instead try (untested): import string name = context.getId() splitname = id.split('.') splitname.pop() # get rid of the extension name = string.join(splitname, '.') # reassemble the string return name -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From pschumm@uchicago.edu Fri Dec 13 18:29:52 2002 From: pschumm@uchicago.edu (Phil Schumm) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:29:52 -0600 Subject: [Zope] running v2.6 as root on Jaguar Message-ID: Hi, I have for some time been running Zope 2.5.1 on OS X. I have been using a startup script to launch Zope automatically (i.e., as a Mac OS service), which means that I am starting it as root. Following the advice I have read, I set up a restricted user called "zope", and am using the -u flag in the start script to have Zope change to user "zope" after it is launched. Indeed, when I view the active processes (e.g., using the ProcessViewer application), I see that one of the two has switched to user "zope." Recently, I installed Zope 2.6 on a new machine running Jaguar (i.e., OS 10.2). Following the instructions in doc/SETUID.txt, I changed the owner of var to root, set it's sticky bit, and added the -u flag in the start script (i.e., -u zope). Zope starts fine (and works fine), but now when I look in the ProcessViewer, it appears that both Zope processes are still running as root. Does this mean that Zope is not actually "setuid()"ing correctly to the user I have specified with the -u flag? Am I overlooking something obvious here? Thanks for any insights, -- Phil From kj7ny@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 18:42:24 2002 From: kj7ny@yahoo.com (Robert Roberts) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:42:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Zope] Internet Explorer, Manage, Port 80 Message-ID: <20021213184224.40253.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> Has anyone else seen this problem and/or does anyone know a fix. If I run Zope on port 8080, I have no problem logging in to manage the site (e.g. http://localhost:8080/manage). If I put Zope on port 80, I cannot log in to manage the site (e.g. http://localhost/manage or http://localhost:80/manage) when using Internet Explorer only. I have no problems when using Mozilla, Phoenix, or Opera. I get the log in screen. Enter my UID and PW and the browser just goes away (thinking) for eternity. I have tried IE 5.0 and IE 6.0. I am running Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) running on Win2K. Thanks, __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From jens@zope.com Fri Dec 13 18:50:40 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:50:40 -0500 Subject: [Zope] running v2.6 as root on Jaguar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: to completely circumvent all this you should look into using "su" in your script to launch the process as your zope user. something like... su - zope -c "/my/python /my/zope/xyz" jens On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 13:29 US/Eastern, Phil Schumm wrote: > Hi, > > I have for some time been running Zope 2.5.1 on OS X. I have been > using a startup script to launch Zope automatically (i.e., as a Mac OS > service), which means that I am starting it as root. Following the > advice I have read, I set up a restricted user called "zope", and am > using the -u flag in the start script to have Zope change to user > "zope" after it is launched. Indeed, when I view the active processes > (e.g., using the ProcessViewer application), I see that one of the two > has switched to user "zope." > > Recently, I installed Zope 2.6 on a new machine running Jaguar (i.e., > OS 10.2). Following the instructions in doc/SETUID.txt, I changed the > owner of var to root, set it's sticky bit, and added the -u flag in > the start script (i.e., -u zope). Zope starts fine (and works fine), > but now when I look in the ProcessViewer, it appears that both Zope > processes are still running as root. Does this mean that Zope is not > actually "setuid()"ing correctly to the user I have specified with the > -u flag? Am I overlooking something obvious here? > > Thanks for any insights, > > > -- Phil > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From jens@zope.com Fri Dec 13 19:05:24 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:05:24 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Internet Explorer, Manage, Port 80 In-Reply-To: <20021213184224.40253.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: i've seen problems on IE/mac before where that P.O.S. would not connect to anything "localhost" but would connect to 127.0.0.1... have you tried that? jens On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 13:42 US/Eastern, Robert Roberts wrote: > Has anyone else seen this problem and/or does anyone > know a fix. > > If I run Zope on port 8080, I have no problem logging > in to manage the site (e.g. > http://localhost:8080/manage). > > If I put Zope on port 80, I cannot log in to manage > the site (e.g. http://localhost/manage or > http://localhost:80/manage) when using Internet > Explorer only. > > I have no problems when using Mozilla, Phoenix, or > Opera. I get the log in screen. Enter my UID and PW > and the browser just goes away (thinking) for > eternity. > > I have tried IE 5.0 and IE 6.0. > > I am running Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, > python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) running > on Win2K. > > Thanks, From alet@librelogiciel.com Fri Dec 13 19:19:56 2002 From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:19:56 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? In-Reply-To: <20021213181447.GI7509@slinkp.com> References: <82356387-0EB5-11D7-AF29-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> <20021213163138.GA18235@mail.librelogiciel.com> <20021213181447.GI7509@slinkp.com> Message-ID: <20021213191956.GA19566@mail.librelogiciel.com> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 10:14:47AM -0800, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 05:31:38PM +0100, Jerome Alet wrote: > > create a Script (Python) object named itemcode in your root which > > contains only : > > > > return context.getId().split('.')[-1] > > that'll break the first time somebody uploads > a file named "foo.bar.baz.html" ... My fingers typed exactly the opposite of what I wanted to type it seems. I wanted to keep all but the last one, of course, so this is probably something more like this one : return '.'.join(context.getId().split('.')[:-1]) And I said this was completely untested IIRC. BTW this one is also completely untested hth Jerome Alet From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com Fri Dec 13 19:57:27 2002 From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:57:27 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Sessions and the temp_folder Message-ID: Now that I've got sessioning backed by Berkeley Storage via various howtos, my session data container lives in a Berkeley-backed folder in the root of my zope called session_storage. The default temp_folder that Zope creates is still sitting in the root of my zope with the default data container inside. Is that folder sucking down RAM and using resources, or does it just sit happily if the session data manager isn't making calls to it? I ask because it won't stay deleted if I use an external method to kill it--it returns like a bad fungus when I restart a Zope client. From chrism@zope.com Fri Dec 13 20:17:20 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 13 Dec 2002 15:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Sessions and the temp_folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1039810640.1414.29.camel@james> This should be fine.... but if you want you could delete the temp_folder object and replace it with a "dummy" object (maybe a Python Script?) with the name 'temp_folder' to cause it from being created. At least I *think* this will work. ;-) On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 14:57, Chris Muldrow wrote: > Now that I've got sessioning backed by Berkeley Storage via various howtos, > my session data container lives in a Berkeley-backed folder in the root of > my zope called session_storage. The default temp_folder that Zope creates is > still sitting in the root of my zope with the default data container inside. > Is that folder sucking down RAM and using resources, or does it just sit > happily if the session data manager isn't making calls to it? I ask because > it won't stay deleted if I use an external method to kill it--it returns > like a bad fungus when I restart a Zope client. > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From pw_lists@slinkp.com Fri Dec 13 20:32:25 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:32:25 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? In-Reply-To: <20021213191956.GA19566@mail.librelogiciel.com> References: <82356387-0EB5-11D7-AF29-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> <20021213163138.GA18235@mail.librelogiciel.com> <20021213181447.GI7509@slinkp.com> <20021213191956.GA19566@mail.librelogiciel.com> Message-ID: <20021213203225.GJ7509@slinkp.com> On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 08:19:56PM +0100, Jerome Alet wrote: > I wanted to keep all but the last one, of course, so this > is probably something more like this one : > > return '.'.join(context.getId().split('.')[:-1]) ... which does in one line what I did in 4. TMTOWTDI lives :) --PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From brinegar@ecn.purdue.edu Fri Dec 13 20:43:09 2002 From: brinegar@ecn.purdue.edu (Brian R Brinegar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:43:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Calling in Context Message-ID: Howdy, Overview: I'm working on a helper product for Zope Presentation Templates. The goal of this product is to allow people to drop static content into a site developed with Zope Presentation Templates using WebDAV clients. (This is similar to the Kube Product but it's not folderish and supports WebDAV.) At first I suggested creating some ZPT with an Id like "view". Have users drop in static content as File objects. Then link to the files like "file_id/view". The "view" ZPT would reference the document_src method of the file object to pull the static content into the page. I like this approach, and I think this is how Presentation Templates are meant to be used. Problem: Our users will not change links created by WYSIWYG tools to include the "/view" so we need a product that removes the need for this. I am calling the product HTMLBlock. Version one of the product is a simple data holder with a document_src method which returns the content. It does not override index_html, instead acquiring the index_html from the context. I create an index_html page template with all of my presentation and some code like:

Content Goes Here

When an HTMLBlock is viewed it shows up with all of the dynamic presentation of the index_html ZPT with the HTMLBlocks static content dropped in. Great! Almost there! :-) The problem is that people cannot create a default HTMLBlock with the Id index_html. It ends up trying to render itself much like a folder with the Id index_html. No Good. :-( So I temporarily fixed this by changing the template to redirect to an object with the Id "index" if document_src doesn't exist. When someone views a folder the index_html template is accessed, document_src is not defined so it redirects to "index" which is an HTMLBlock which renders correctly. I don't like this. :*( Still No Good. What I want is for the HTMLBlock product to have a property which specifies the Id of the template to use. Implement an index_html or __call__ method to locate the template and call it in the context of itself. I would like this to work generically so that the template could be DTML, Python, a ZPT, or anything else. Casey Duncan has some uber useful code on ZopeLabs.com to call an object generically using the ZPublisher. I borrowed it and came up with the code below, but it doesn't work. It calls the template, but the template cannot access methods of this object. Suggestions? Is there a better approach? (Note: template_id is the Id of the template to render) def __call__(self, client=None, REQUEST={}, RESONSE=None, **kw): """ Call the selected template in the context of myself. """A securityManager = getSecurityManager() securityManager.addContext(self) # Check for the template if not hasattr(self.aq_parent, self.template_id): return str(self) obj = getattr(self.aq_parent, self.template_id) if not securityManager.checkPermission('View', obj): return default return mapply( object=obj, positional=REQUEST.args, keyword=REQUEST, debug=call_object, maybe=1, missing_name=missing_name, handle_class=dont_publish_class, context=self, bind=1) The code below works, but requires a PageTemplate with the Id "index" to work def __call__(self, client=None, REQUEST={}, RESONSE=None, **kw): return self.index() Thanks, -Brian From kj7ny@yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 20:43:30 2002 From: kj7ny@yahoo.com (Robert Roberts) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:43:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Zope] Internet Explorer, Manage, Port 80 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021213204330.13168.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> For me, it is the same whether I am attempting to manage localhost:80, 127.0.0.1:80, or one of the servers on which I am running Zope (whether I use the server name or the IP). I have no problem surfing the Zope servers on port 80, I just can't login to manage Zope. --- Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > i've seen problems on IE/mac before where that > P.O.S. would not connect > to anything "localhost" but would connect to > 127.0.0.1... have you > tried that? > > jens > > > On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 13:42 US/Eastern, Robert > Roberts wrote: > > > Has anyone else seen this problem and/or does > anyone > > know a fix. > > > > If I run Zope on port 8080, I have no problem > logging > > in to manage the site (e.g. > > http://localhost:8080/manage). > > > > If I put Zope on port 80, I cannot log in to > manage > > the site (e.g. http://localhost/manage or > > http://localhost:80/manage) when using Internet > > Explorer only. > > > > I have no problems when using Mozilla, Phoenix, or > > Opera. I get the log in screen. Enter my UID and > PW > > and the browser just goes away (thinking) for > > eternity. > > > > I have tried IE 5.0 and IE 6.0. > > > > I am running Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (binary > release, > > python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) > running > > on Win2K. > > > > Thanks, > ===== Robert Roberts National Counterdrug Center 509-376-6343 kj7ny@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From wilson@visi.com Fri Dec 13 20:56:08 2002 From: wilson@visi.com (Tim Wilson) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:56:08 -0600 Subject: [Zope] External Editor not updating content In-Reply-To: <200212131922.39424.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> References: <200212131107.16666.wilson@visi.com> <200212131922.39424.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> Message-ID: <200212131456.08483.wilson@visi.com> On Friday 13 December 2002 11:22, Bo M. Maryniuck wrote: > 1. Tkinter is not installed Oops. This is a new install of SuSE and I assumed that it had installed=20 Tkinter by default. Fixed now. > 2. Your editor is probably doing detach a file. I don't think that's the problem since I was following the examples in th= e=20 ExternalEdit docs. I think I've discovered a larger problem that has been giving me trouble = in=20 another context. Upon saving the exiting my editor (called from=20 ExternalEditor), I get the following error: Could not save to Zope. Error occurred during HTTP put: 110 Connection timed out I'm using the standard .zope-external-edit settings except that I set=20 use_locks to false. I've recently been experimenting with using Dreamweaver to edit Zope=20 content. So far, I've been unable to put any files into Zope using DW. I=20 get the following error: An ftp error occurred: Cannot put index.htm. 426 Error creating file Trying to put a file via WebDAV produces: The desired action could not be completed because it was not allowed by t= he=20 server. After clicking OK, the following error appeared: An error occurred - Cannot put index.htm I get nearly identical errors when attempted to put files using a regular= =20 ftp client. Here's the weird part, I can put images just fine! It's text files that=20 cause the problem. I'm authenticated as Manager for all these operations,= =20 and I've checked to make sure that the Manager role has all permissions. I'm at a loss and I'm hoping that others might have a suggestion about ho= w=20 to proceed. -Tim --=20 Tim Wilson Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA Science teacher, Linux fan, Zope developer, Grad. student, Daddy mailto:wilson@visi.com | http://qwerk.org/ | public key: 0x8C0F8813 From brinegar@ecn.purdue.edu Fri Dec 13 21:38:06 2002 From: brinegar@ecn.purdue.edu (Brian R Brinegar) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:38:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Calling in Context In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Okay, I've found that if I use "self" in place of "self.aq_parent" when calling "getattr" it gets the attribute in the context of self and everything works great! -Brian On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Brian R Brinegar wrote: > Howdy, > > Overview: > > I'm working on a helper product for Zope Presentation Templates. The goal > of this product is to allow people to drop static content into a site > developed with Zope Presentation Templates using WebDAV clients. (This is > similar to the Kube Product but it's not folderish and supports WebDAV.) > > At first I suggested creating some ZPT with an Id like "view". Have users > drop in static content as File objects. Then link to the files like > "file_id/view". The "view" ZPT would reference the document_src method > of the file object to pull the static content into the page. I like > this approach, and I think this is how Presentation Templates are meant to > be used. > > Problem: > > Our users will not change links created by WYSIWYG tools to include the > "/view" so we need a product that removes the need for this. I am calling the > product HTMLBlock. Version one of the product is a simple data holder > with a document_src method which returns the content. It does not override > index_html, instead acquiring the index_html from the context. I create an > index_html page template with all of my presentation and some code like: > >

Content Goes Here

> > When an HTMLBlock is viewed it shows up with all of the dynamic > presentation of the index_html ZPT with the HTMLBlocks static content > dropped in. Great! Almost there! :-) > > The problem is that people cannot create a default HTMLBlock with the Id > index_html. It ends up trying to render itself much like a folder with the > Id index_html. No Good. :-( > > So I temporarily fixed this by changing the template to redirect to an > object with the Id "index" if document_src doesn't exist. When someone > views a folder the index_html template is accessed, document_src is not > defined so it redirects to "index" which is an HTMLBlock which renders > correctly. I don't like this. :*( Still No Good. > > What I want is for the HTMLBlock product to have a property which > specifies the Id of the template to use. Implement an index_html or > __call__ method to locate the template and call it in the context of > itself. I would like this to work generically so that the template could > be DTML, Python, a ZPT, or anything else. > > Casey Duncan has some uber useful code on ZopeLabs.com to call an object > generically using the ZPublisher. I borrowed it and came up with the > code below, but it doesn't work. It calls the template, but the template > cannot access methods of this object. > > Suggestions? Is there a better approach? > > (Note: template_id is the Id of the template to render) > > def __call__(self, client=None, REQUEST={}, RESONSE=None, **kw): > """ > Call the selected template in the context of myself. > """ > > securityManager = getSecurityManager() > securityManager.addContext(self) > > # Check for the template > if not hasattr(self.aq_parent, self.template_id): > return str(self) > > obj = getattr(self.aq_parent, self.template_id) > if not securityManager.checkPermission('View', obj): > return default > > return mapply( > object=obj, > positional=REQUEST.args, > keyword=REQUEST, > debug=call_object, > maybe=1, > missing_name=missing_name, > handle_class=dont_publish_class, > context=self, > bind=1) > > > The code below works, but requires a PageTemplate with the Id "index" to > work > > def __call__(self, client=None, REQUEST={}, RESONSE=None, **kw): > return self.index() > > Thanks, > -Brian > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:18:40 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:18:40 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Changing the properties contained in the default PropertySheets In-Reply-To: <3DF75751.6B4526CE@noaa.gov> References: <3DF75751.6B4526CE@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <15866.20144.159090.312427@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Stacy Roberts Ladnier writes: > .. What do you mean with "default PropertySheet[s]". If it is indeed a PropertySheet, you must use .propertysheets..manage_changeProperties(...) Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 20:53:28 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:53:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 In-Reply-To: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A53F@osl-2kex01.co.int> References: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A53F@osl-2kex01.co.int> Message-ID: <15866.18632.402583.777039@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Vladimir Petrov writes: > I have some problems with setup Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2..... I recently read in the mailing list (search archives) that you need a very recent Zope (Zope 2.6 from CVS or Zope 2.6.1b1) in order to use the new ZEO2. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:43:40 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:43:40 +0100 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods In-Reply-To: <00df01c2a1d6$e89ef500$fe78a8c0@PCA> References: <00df01c2a1d6$e89ef500$fe78a8c0@PCA> Message-ID: <15866.21644.301376.173195@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Elena Schulz writes: > I want to set globale variables in external methods. Don't! The "module" namespace of external methods exists in copies for the different threads. If you set (global) variables in one thread, other threads will not see them. When you need (module) global variables, put them into a real Python module (or packages) not in the source of an External Method. The namespaces of such modules are shared by all threads. Depending on the use of the global variables, you must synchronize access to them by means of locks. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 22:02:34 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:02:34 +0100 Subject: [Zope] No Module named ZamlBase (editing ZSQL) In-Reply-To: <3DF8A667.7141.41D94F9@localhost> References: <3DF8A667.7141.41D94F9@localhost> Message-ID: <15866.22778.638526.554081@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Brad Clements writes: > I have a Zope site .. its' been upgraded over the years from 2.2 (perhaps older) and > now is at 2.6.0 > > When I try to view the "advanced" tab of ZSQL objects, I get the following exception. > > I have no idea what Zamlbase is > ... > Module Shared.DC.ZRDB.DA, line 476, in manage_product_zclass_info > Module ZODB.Connection, line 533, in setstate > ImportError: No module named ZamlBase Your "ProductRegistry" contains a stale reference to "ZamlBase". A workaround will be to catch the "ImportError" exception in "Shared.DC.ZRDB.DA:476", analyse the context leading to the exception and clean up the product registry. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:40:23 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:40:23 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Published methods and docstrings In-Reply-To: <000701c2a1b0$15bb2ee0$1400000a@lan> References: <000701c2a1b0$15bb2ee0$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: <15866.21447.41296.348134@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Andrew Durdin writes: > I'm a newcomer to Zope, and while mostly it seems attractive, there's one > thing that to me seems downright wrong: the use of docstrings to > differentiate between published and private (wrt the web) objects (methods > in particular) I agree completely with you! > ... > 3. As far as I have been able to see, there is no way to disable the > functionality described in (2); You can use a comment for documentation rather than a string... > similarly, there is no way to use a override > the behaviour, so that one can give a non-published object a docstring. You can give the non-published documented object a "_" prefixed name. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 22:24:51 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:24:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Configuring Zope's python for ssl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15866.24115.418792.192620@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Kevin Carlson writes: > I need to write an external script that access pages via https. When I try > this using an HTTPSConnection object I get an error stating that ssl is not > available. I noticed in the socket.py file that the ssl module is available > "if configured". I have found threads that show me how to configure python > for ssl but I'm curious if the python that comes with Zope can be configured > similarly. You need the sources in order to "configure" it. Thus, go for a Python (2.1.3) source distribution. Configure it to support SSL (you will need SSL support libraries for that, e.g. the "openssl" (C-) package). Use this Python for your Zope. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:37:51 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:37:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Problem starting Zope 2.6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15866.21295.964855.573411@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Douglas Perry writes: > I've compiled Zope 2.6 from source (RH 7.2) and I can't get it to run. I > used python 2.1.3 to compile it. Zdaemon will spawn processes but those > processes will send signal 11. See error log below: > > > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:55 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2405 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:56 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2405 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) Try to start Zope without daemon (I do not (yet) know, how to do this, as it almost surely changed for Zope 2.6 (which I do not yet use). If it crashed, too, with a SIGSEGV, you may run it in a debugger (gdb) and see where the segmentation violation happens. You may need a new gdb installation to have a chance (older GDB versions had big difficulties to analyse multi-threaded applications, such a Zope). Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:56:07 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:56:07 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15866.22391.892987.950645@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Chris Muldrow writes: > We're using ZEO to feed two Zope clients and we're using Sessions with a > packless storage to keep track of session info. It works great except for > one problem related to Netscape 4 that I've seen referenced before in other > contexts. I've got browseridmanager set to feed cookies with a domain of > .mydomain.com. So www1.mydomain.com and www2.mydomain.com and > www.mydomain.com all work fine. But mydomain.com doesn't get a browser ID > set. If I take off the domain setting in the browser ID manager, it works > with Netscape 4 with mydomain.com but of course doesn't work on any of the > other domains and doesn't share domain info across the board. Is there any > workaround for this short of forcing them to a www.mydomain.com URL? Thanks! Read the cookie specification (search via Google on "netscape.com"). Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:11:47 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:11:47 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Page Templates In-Reply-To: <200212111458.21530.nuno@xml.pt> References: <200212111458.21530.nuno@xml.pt> Message-ID: <15866.19731.514319.246804@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Nuno Maltez writes: > We're building a site using ZPT and we're facing a problem. > > The pages are in Portuguese, and therefore we have text in some > attributes with character entities like for instance > > água

> > This seems to be the correct HTML: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/charset.html#encodings > > These tags don't have tal: attributes, however Zope always converts > the character entity's ampersand into &alt;, rendering the above > example as > > água

> > which is nonsense. Is there anyway to prevent this? > We're using Zope 2.5.1 Please file a bug report to "". As a workaround (hack!), you might add entities relevant for you to "TAL.HTMLParser.HTMLParser.unescape". This will only work for character entities with a character code in your charset. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:34:39 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:34:39 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Capturing SQL Method exceptions in Python scripts In-Reply-To: <3DF7DB72.9000105@verizon.net> References: <3DF7DB72.9000105@verizon.net> Message-ID: <15866.21103.679967.460291@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Satheesh Babu writes: > I've a python script in which I would like to call some SQL methods. > Some SQL methods in question are DDL statements (alter table etc.). What > I'm trying to do is to make an installer script for some patches. > > However, it is possible that the DDL statements might fail. How can I > capture the exception type and process it? > > the zope-error pages come up like "sql.error: blah blah blah" > > try: > ret = mysql() > except sql.error, details > print ... > > Normal python! But what should I REALLY use for sql.error ? When I remember right (check the sources in "Shared/DC/ZRDB/DA.py"), exceptions are not standardized by Z SQL Methods or (most) Database adapters. This means you will see most likely the exceptions of the Python-database interface library. These should be standardized. Consult the Python DB-API specification. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 22:22:27 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:22:27 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Newbie Question: Creating a ZClass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15866.23971.924879.937200@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Ashley Lloyd writes: > I've tried two or three tutorials on Creating a ZClass, and seem to get the > same type of error every time. > > Following the example in The Zope Book, Ch.14 > (http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/CustomZopeObjects.stx) > > when I get to the part "Go ahead and select ZooExhibit from the add list and > create a new Exhibit with the id 'FangedRabbits'. ", I get the following > error after clicking Add: > Error Type: NameError > Error Value: global name 'ZooExhibit' is not defined > > Can anyone help with this? I've looked at posts in the past that have asked > the same, but there doesn't seem to be anything that helps. Not sure... Is your "Permission mapping" for "Create class instances" correct (in the "Permission mapping" tab of the ZClass)? If so, you might export your ZClass product and send it to me for analysis. However, I may take up to one week before I will find time. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:22:46 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:22:46 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Win32, Zope and FTP In-Reply-To: <3DF7BF3C.9000400@marge.cyber-dyne.com> References: <3DF7BF3C.9000400@marge.cyber-dyne.com> Message-ID: <15866.20390.786131.188833@gargle.gargle.HOWL> toman writes: > I'm trying to put together a collaboration app that allows users to > share large datasets. When I ftp the data, which has numerous folders > and large (~100Meg) and small files in them, to a Zope 2.6.0 server > running on Windows XP, it will transfer many but not all of the > datasets. Then if I try to make another object, say a folder, through > ftp or the management screens, the server hangs. Maybe, your FTP client forgets to close connections. After some time, Zope will have no more file descriptors to accept further requests. > The same test on a > Linux box running Mandrake 8.something doesn't show this problem at all. With the same FTP client? > Ideas? I would guess that it's a threading problem, mostly because in my > experience threads suck on Windows, but I don't know enough about the > Zope internals to prove it. I have not yet heard of (modern) Windows threading problems. They seem to be better supported than on Unix. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:30:43 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:30:43 +0100 Subject: [Zope] LocalFS and zCatalog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15866.20867.482998.876020@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Meilicke, Scott writes: > I am trying to index files in a file system, not in zope, using LocalFS and > zcatalog. I have not been successful. Is anyone doing this currently? I did it with an older version of "LocalFS". Did you activate cataloguing in the "LocalFS" instance configuration? Did you add the files to the catalog (with the "Find objects and catalog" tab of "ZCatalog")? > Specifically, I can't figure out what index localfs.py would use with a > zcatalog. "LocalFS" maps files in the filesystem to internal Zope objects (based on extensions). Each Zope object class provides some attriutes/methods for cataloguing. These are usually "id", "title" and (often) "PrincipiaSearchSource". > Also, there is a warning in the localfs help about poor > performance when using zcatalog support in a localfs - is this because it > catalogs all content with each query, and does not actually store the > results in zcatalog? I do not think so... But, when you have mapped a really big hiearchy into Zope and then index it, it may take quite a bit of time.... Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:16:47 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:16:47 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Auto-documenting Zope Products In-Reply-To: <1039619445.29552.6.camel@praga.agora-2000.com> References: <1039619445.29552.6.camel@praga.agora-2000.com> Message-ID: <15866.20031.91518.517424@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Antonio Beamud Montero writes: > I want to document all my products with pydoc. > I have patched the source code to works fine with zope code and I have > run the zdoc.py script, but zdoc.py fail's and said something like: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/local/bin/zdoc.py", line 5, in ? > import Zope > File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py", line 43, in ? > > DB=ZODB.FileStorage.FileStorage(Globals.BobobaseName,read_only=_isReadOnly()) > File "/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py", line 200, in > __init__ > raise ValueError, "can\'t create a read-only file" > ValueError: can't create a read-only file > > What can I do? Zope was told to work in "read_only" mode but the filestorage file (usually "/var/Data.fs") does not exist. Start your Zope first in "read_write" mode (this should create your "Data.fs"). Then try again with "zdoc.py". It may also be possible that you use an "INSTANCE_HOME" installation but you do not tell this to "zdoc.py". In this case, "Data.fs" is not where "zdoc.py" looks for it. > Exists other tool? An alternative is "HappyDoc". Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:50:49 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:50:49 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Problem with AUTHENTICATED_USER.has_role('X')" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15866.22073.167290.418835@gargle.gargle.HOWL> complaw@hal-pc.org writes: > ... > The authentication scheme calls a DTML Method > (named "logger") that has security settings such that the challenge/response > routine is initiated. Once the user is able to run logger, it takes them back > to the index_html file (with the standard_html_header file mentioned above). > When comming from the logger object, the menu is constructed correctly > (according to the user's role). However, when coming back to index_html from > somewhere else (say another folder), it goes back to the non-authenticated menu > as if I never logged in (i.e., the code of the AUTHENTICATED_USER has somehow > changed or is being ignored). According to the HTTP specification, a browser should automatically add authentication information for requests at the same level or below the object which required the authentication. Thus, URLs going to a different subtree with not automatically get authentication information and are apparently accessed by "Annonymous". Workaround: Move your "logger" into the root of your Website. Some browsers (prominent example, early versions of IE 5.0) do not follow the HTTP "should" specification. If you have such a browser, upgrade to something better. Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:55:30 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:55:30 +0100 Subject: [Zope] why will python be using over 90% of CPU time ? In-Reply-To: <20021212191142.92624.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20021212191142.92624.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <15866.22354.619869.820959@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Hamzat Kamal writes: > I am running zope server 2.5.1, python 2.1.3. on RedHat Linux (latest > ver). > Ever before now I discovered that when the traffic to my site is high the > python will be using 99.9% of the CPU usage constantly, and only using > 300Mb of 772Mb of my bandwidth. Depending on the complexity of your templates, template rendering may be very CPU intensive. > This make the site to be very slow and > almost inaccessible to the visitors, infact it always bring down the zope > server. But now I also found out that the python uses as much as 45-55% of > the CPU usage when the traffic is redirected out of the zerver and been > accessed by me alone. Consider the various caching techniques (HTTP cache manager with external HTTP cache (Squid); RAM cache manager). > I need help from those that have better understanding of how the zope > server works on what could have been the cause(s) and what can I do to > sovle this problem. Use profiling to understand the CPU costs associated with rendering. You have two options: * the "CallProfiler", a high level (template/script) profiling tool (external, third party product) * Zope's support for Python's profiling facility, exposed via "Control_Panel --> Debug informaiton --> Profiling". This is low level profiling (function call level). Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 22:05:09 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:05:09 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Installing Zope under RedHat In-Reply-To: <000a01c2a21f$2381f300$1400000a@lan> References: <000a01c2a21f$2381f300$1400000a@lan> Message-ID: <15866.22933.698071.920932@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Andrew Durdin writes: > > what happens? Does it start up? It does.... > ... > Hostname: box.lan > Port: 8080 This means, Zope should answer HTTP requests at port "8080" > ------ > 2002-12-13T07:34:16 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Fri Dec 13 > 07:34:16 2002 > Hostname: box.lan > Port: 8021 and FTP requests at port 8021. Check, that it does indeed.... Dieter From dieter@handshake.de Fri Dec 13 21:25:13 2002 From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:25:13 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Python use more and more memory In-Reply-To: References: <20021211143619.GC2037@zaphod.chaptereight.com> Message-ID: <15866.20537.767176.454691@gargle.gargle.HOWL> ken writes: > Felix Ulrich-Oltean at 14:36 (UTC-0000) on Wed, 11 Dec 2002 said: > > = On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 09:27:07AM -0500, ken wrote: > = > Dieter Maurer at 20:18 (UTC+0100) on Tue, 10 Dec 2002 said: > = > = Terry writes: > = > = > In beginning I start Zope. > = > = > the python use about 26M memory. > = > = > > = > = > After several hours > = > = > get the result by "top" > = > = > Sort by memory usage > = > = > > = > = > PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND > = > = > 4931 www-data 13 0 94324 92M 2504 S 3.5 10.4 7:43 python > = > = > 5022 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 0:00 python > = > = > 5023 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 15:55 python > = > = > 5024 www-data 14 0 94324 92M 2504 S 14.5 10.4 16:55 python > = > = > 5025 www-data 10 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.3 10.4 15:35 python > = > = > 5026 www-data 9 0 94324 92M 2504 S 0.0 10.4 16:32 python > = > = > > = > = > Have any idea why? > = > ... > = > Maybe I'm missing something, but I see the %MEM staying at 10.4; SHARE > = > and SIZE are likewise staying the same. Seems that it's behaving itself > = > quite well. Or...? > = > = I think the listing is a snapshot at one time - the lines are the > = different threads and the memory figures are in fact shared memory. > = The percentage is 10.4, but the actual size is 94M, which compared to > = 26M at the beginning is a sizeable increase. > = ... > > Working from that and looking at the second instance, we can see that > process 5022 has been running for 0.00 (just started, presumably), but > still has claimed 92M, the same as other processes which have been > running much longer. The various processes you see represent the different threads comprising your Zope. By definition, threads share most of the process resources, this includes the address space. Therefore, all threads have the same memory, they share it, whether or not they still did any work by themselves. Dieter From doug@safety.com Fri Dec 13 22:57:09 2002 From: doug@safety.com (Douglas Perry) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:57:09 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Problem starting Zope 2.6 In-Reply-To: <15866.21295.964855.573411@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: I ended up getting the binary release. I'll try this again some other time. -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Dieter Maurer Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:38 PM To: doug@safety.com Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Problem starting Zope 2.6 Douglas Perry writes: > I've compiled Zope 2.6 from source (RH 7.2) and I can't get it to run. I > used python 2.1.3 to compile it. Zdaemon will spawn processes but those > processes will send signal 11. See error log below: > > > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:55 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 2405 > ------ > 2002-12-11T21:40:56 ERROR(200) zdaemon Process 2405 terminated by signal > SIGSEGV(11) Try to start Zope without daemon (I do not (yet) know, how to do this, as it almost surely changed for Zope 2.6 (which I do not yet use). If it crashed, too, with a SIGSEGV, you may run it in a debugger (gdb) and see where the segmentation violation happens. You may need a new gdb installation to have a chance (older GDB versions had big difficulties to analyse multi-threaded applications, such a Zope). Dieter _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From andy@tavultesoft.com Fri Dec 13 23:23:58 2002 From: andy@tavultesoft.com (Andrew Durdin) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:23:58 +1100 Subject: [Zope] zope mailing-list digests Message-ID: <000501c2a2fe$b6db1840$1400000a@lan> This is possibly a bit off-topic, but I'm finding that most of the daily digest messages I get on this list are truncated, and missing most of the individual messages. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what did you do about it? Andrew From abmanock@earthlink.net Fri Dec 13 23:38:32 2002 From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock) Date: 13 Dec 2002 18:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1b1 Source RPM ready Message-ID: <1039822713.2504.4.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org> Zope 2.6.1b1 Source RPM ready for community tasting and testing :-) http://www.zope.org/Members/dingo/Zope_RPMS I'm especially interested in any feedback for the new init script, and z2.py wrapper script, I put those up there separately aswell. They maybe useful even if you don't use RPMs Adam From vladimir.petrov@creuna.no Sat Dec 14 00:53:54 2002 From: vladimir.petrov@creuna.no (Vladimir Petrov) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:53:54 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 Message-ID: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A544@osl-2kex01.co.int> Actually, the problem was with permissions... Zope and ZEO MUST be = compiled as nonpriviledged user (ie zope) and started as such user. It = wont help if you start z2 with -u argument, you have to use something = like setuidgid or to start zope and ZEO from actual account. The funny = thing is if you started Zope (and respawn proces later on as zope) and = ZEO as a root, everything just goes fine (nothing in a log) but it's not = working. Only by strace (and a lot of stack infos) we noticed that there = was a permission problem. Such thing will be nice to be noticed in docs = (maybe I overviewed something).=20 At the end I got Z2.6&ZEO2.0 up and running, and it's working like = charm. I'll write article about procedure which MUST be followed to get = this up&running... =20 Vladimir -----Original Message-----=20 From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]=20 Sent: Fri 12/13/2002 9:53 PM=20 To: Vladimir Petrov=20 Cc: zope@zope.org=20 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 =09 =09 Vladimir Petrov writes: > I have some problems with setup Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2..... I recently read in the mailing list (search archives) that you need a very recent Zope (Zope 2.6 from CVS or Zope 2.6.1b1) in order to use the new ZEO2. =09 =09 Dieter =09 From a.martin@perfectwww.de Sat Dec 14 01:28:58 2002 From: a.martin@perfectwww.de (Andreas Martin) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 02:28:58 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Error handling and Zpublisher type casts ? Message-ID: <001001c2a310$2e5805c0$0100a8c0@Enterprise> Hallo ! I would like to ask how I can catch an error produced by a Zpublisher type cast. If I have an zpt with a html form with input box then the Zpublisher tries to convert the string I typed in into an integer number. If this fails, e.g. if I type in an string "aaa" that cannot be converted instead of a number "123", then I get this error: Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Error Type: ValueError Error Value: An integer was expected in the value 'aaa' How can I catch this error ? Thank you Andreas Martin From toman@marge.cyber-dyne.com Sat Dec 14 06:46:07 2002 From: toman@marge.cyber-dyne.com (joseph toman) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 06:46:07 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Win32, Zope and FTP References: <3DF7BF3C.9000400@marge.cyber-dyne.com> <15866.20390.786131.188833@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <3DFAD3AF.4030307@marge.cyber-dyne.com> Dieter Maurer wrote: >toman writes: > > I'm trying to put together a collaboration app that allows users to > > share large datasets. When I ftp the data, which has numerous folders > > and large (~100Meg) and small files in them, to a Zope 2.6.0 server > > running on Windows XP, it will transfer many but not all of the > > datasets. Then if I try to make another object, say a folder, through > > ftp or the management screens, the server hangs. >Maybe, your FTP client forgets to close connections. > > After some time, Zope will have no more file descriptors > to accept further requests. > > > The same test on a > > Linux box running Mandrake 8.something doesn't show this problem at all. >With the same FTP client? > > Yes, the client was WSFTP_LE. Further tests had the same results when moving 4 ~15MB files via WebDAV. The server on the XP box hung and none of the files were moved. The client was the built in Web folders on Win2K. With the same client the Zope server on the linux box received the files fine. I ran a Zope server on my Windows Me laptop and moved some files onto it with WebDAV from a linux box (Mandrake 9.0,KDE 3.0) and though the largest (a CD image ~500Mb) files didn't transfer (it looks like I ran out of disk space on the system drive) the Zope server didn't hang. > > Ideas? I would guess that it's a threading problem, mostly because in my > > experience threads suck on Windows, but I don't know enough about the > > Zope internals to prove it. >I have not yet heard of (modern) Windows threading problems. >They seem to be better supported than on Unix. > > > That could be. My experience with Windows threads is at least five years old. J. Toman From tino@wildenhain.de Sat Dec 14 19:00:18 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:00:18 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 In-Reply-To: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A544@osl-2kex01.co.int> References: <88D5C21488958C47940347B540982A4F04A544@osl-2kex01.co.int> Message-ID: <92990563.1039896018@liza> Hi Vladimir, --On Samstag, 14. Dezember 2002 01:53 +0100 Vladimir Petrov wrote: > Actually, the problem was with permissions... Zope and ZEO MUST be > compiled as nonpriviledged user (ie zope) and started as such user. It > wont help if you start z2 with -u argument, you have to use something > like setuidgid or to start zope and ZEO from actual account. The funny > thing is if you started Zope (and respawn proces later on as zope) and > ZEO as a root, everything just goes fine (nothing in a log) but it's not > working. Only by strace (and a lot of stack infos) we noticed that there > was a permission problem. Such thing will be nice to be noticed in docs > (maybe I overviewed something). At the end I got Z2.6&ZEO2.0 up and > running, and it's working like charm. I'll write article about procedure > which MUST be followed to get this up&running... > Vladimir > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de] > Sent: Fri 12/13/2002 9:53 PM > To: Vladimir Petrov > Cc: zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2 > > > > Vladimir Petrov writes: > > I have some problems with setup Zope 2.6 and ZEO 2..... > I recently read in the mailing list (search archives) that > you need a very recent Zope (Zope 2.6 from CVS or Zope 2.6.1b1) > in order to use the new ZEO2. > > > Dieter Interesting. I just checked out Zope2.6 (-r Zope-2_6-branch) and ZEO (ZEO-2_0-branch) But starting zope brings a "AttributeError: ClientStorage instance has no attribute 'sortKey'" Are you sure you have 2.6 Zope+2.0 Zeo running? If so, which tags do you use? Regards Tino From tino@wildenhain.de Sat Dec 14 21:32:38 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:32:38 +0100 Subject: [Zope] RE: [ZPT] Template/Script Access Via "Manager" Script In-Reply-To: <000701c2a3aa$f8453c50$0501a8c0@leasCray> References: <000701c2a3aa$f8453c50$0501a8c0@leasCray> Message-ID: <102130415.1039905158@liza> Hi Dirk, --On Samstag, 14. Dezember 2002 14:57 -0500 Dirk Leas wrote: > Thanks for your reply. > > My situation is that I have a folder with the following content: > > wmf - workflow manager script > query - query template > queryParser - script I invoke via tal:repeat to grab form data > sort - sort template > sortParser - script I invoke similar to above > > I'd like to allow wmf to call either query or sort, but disallow the > user from hitting query, or sort (or their supporting scripts) directly. > In looking at the security tab w/n ZMI, I see nothing that would let me > do something like "disallow direct access, but allow access via Zope > caller object". The other way round: disallow for people except for a special role (just create one, preferably in the root of your app) And give your methods "proxy roles" for exactly this role. Then only the python script can call, every other is sent to the "unauthorized" screen. > Were you suggesting that it would be best to create my own "WMF Managed > Page Template" and "WMF Managed Script" subclasses? I'm pretty new to > Zope, but when I considered that early on, it seemed pretty labor > intensive (compared to inheritance in either Python directly or other Not too hard. And compared to Java its even much simpler. (You should have an eyeball at the appropriate section in the zope-book) Roughly you just go to Control_Panel/Products, create a new product (just like a folder) and then create a ZClass with "Factory Functions". Derive your Class from ZPT or whatever you want to manage. Go to the methods tab and just add your management Templates and methods. This turns out to be pretty easy. One tipp from me: while ZMI creates factory function in DTML, you can easy replace these with a python script, which gives you better readability: request = container.REQUEST response = request.RESPONSE # create the new object object=container.FunctionElement.createInObjectManager('your_meta_type', request) # edit propertys of the new object object.propertysheets.main.manage_editProperties({'title':request.title}) # mimify the default behavior - redirect if called from ZMI du=request.get('DestinationURL',None) if du: response.redirect(du+'/manage_workspace') else: response.redirect(request.URL2+'/manage_workspace') > languages like Java. Is there an easier strategy I'm missing that > wouldn't require me to build to new Zope Products? I was also kinda > surprised I couldn't get external methods to be based on object methods > -- too bad there isn't something like an External Object. Every thing in Zope is an object. What do you mean with External Object? Regards Tino From hans@deragon.biz Sat Dec 14 21:49:27 2002 From: hans@deragon.biz (Hans Deragon) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:49:27 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Left navigation bar; how to implement one. Message-ID: <3DFBA767.2080004@deragon.biz> Greetings. I searched in many places, but I could not find an example on how to create a left navigation bar with Zope. I might have some ideas, but I would like to hear from you oldies (as opposed to newbies) the most efficient way to create one. Off course, the left navigation bar should show up on each web page of the site, it would expand as the user goes in deeper on the site and you would only need to write it once and use it on all of the web pages. I am a newbie to Zope, but not in html or python. Sincerely, Hans Deragon From mail@peterbe.com Sat Dec 14 22:02:06 2002 From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:02:06 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Left navigation bar; how to implement one. 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in left_navigation:: Links Good luck. Look into ZPT and METAL to do it more professionally. At 16:49 2002-12-14 -0500, Hans Deragon wrote: >Greetings. > > > I searched in many places, but I could not find an example on how to > create a left navigation bar with Zope. I might have some ideas, but I > would like to hear from you oldies (as opposed to newbies) the most > efficient way to create one. Off course, the left navigation bar should > show up on each web page of the site, it would expand as the user goes in > deeper on the site and you would only need to write it once and use it on > all of the web pages. > > I am a newbie to Zope, but not in html or python. > > >Sincerely, >Hans Deragon > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From greg.mccall@telstra.com Sat Dec 14 22:59:11 2002 From: greg.mccall@telstra.com (Greg McCall) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:59:11 +1100 Subject: [Zope] Date calculations in Zope Message-ID: <000001c2a3c4$6b3e55c0$bc3d30cb@greg> Hi I am having trouble performing date calculations in Zope. I have a variable called dob which returns a date of birth from MySQL Ie. Date of Birth= works fine I would like to be able to list the current age in years and months I can get a years calculation with the following line Age in years = A similar line works using months Months = I don't know how to do the month above when say you are in month 1 and you subtract month 12 Also, how can the results be placed in a form. Eg I tried putting the above dtml-var code in the value attributes without success. Thanks Greg From tino@wildenhain.de Sat Dec 14 23:26:34 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:26:34 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Left navigation bar; how to implement one. In-Reply-To: <3DFBA767.2080004@deragon.biz> References: <3DFBA767.2080004@deragon.biz> Message-ID: <108966014.1039911994@liza> Hi Hans, --On Samstag, 14. Dezember 2002 16:49 -0500 Hans Deragon wrote: > Greetings. > > > I searched in many places, but I could not find an example on how to > create a left navigation bar with Zope. I might have some ideas, but I > would like to hear from you oldies (as opposed to newbies) the most > efficient way to create one. Off course, the left navigation bar should > show up on each web page of the site, it would expand as the user goes in > deeper on the site and you would only need to write it once and use it on > all of the web pages. > > I am a newbie to Zope, but not in html or python. > Simple solution: In root or where you want your navigation start, create a pythonscript, lets call it "navigation" like this: ---- *snip* --- # first get all the parents from REQUEST (a list with all the objects in URL) parents=context.REQUEST.PARENTS # then a simple recursive helper function def buildnavigation(baseobject): # decide if we have to look deeper (when we are in the path) if baseobject in parents: return [{'folder':obj, 'subfolders':buildnavigation(obj) } for obj in baseobject.objectValues('Folder')] else: return [] # return the list in list in list object return buildnavigation(container) ---- *snip* ---- In ZPT, it is a bit ugly, but this way you dont violate standards, the idea is to create all levels of navigation (you sure will have a maximum depth you want to display)

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You can use this macro in all your pages or define a macro for a page which includes the construct and defines a slot for your variable content. HTH Tino Wildenhain From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU Sat Dec 14 23:23:37 2002 From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:23:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Zope] Date calculations in Zope In-Reply-To: <000001c2a3c4$6b3e55c0$bc3d30cb@greg> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Greg McCall wrote: > Hi > I am having trouble performing date calculations in Zope. > I have a variable called dob which returns a date of birth from MySQL > Ie. Date of Birth= works fine > I would like to be able to list the current age in years and months > Read the DateTime() API carefully and use it. From lennart@torped.se Sun Dec 15 00:11:08 2002 From: lennart@torped.se (Lennart Regebro) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:11:08 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Left navigation bar; how to implement one. References: <3DFBA767.2080004@deragon.biz> Message-ID: <002801c2a3ce$7a4afb40$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Hans Deragon" > I searched in many places, but I could not find an example on how > to create a left navigation bar with Zope. I might have some ideas, > but I would like to hear from you oldies (as opposed to newbies) the > most efficient way to create one. Off course, the left navigation bar > should show up on each web page of the site, it would expand as the > user goes in deeper on the site and you would only need to write it > once and use it on all of the web pages. > > I am a newbie to Zope, but not in html or python. There are many options, depending on what functionality you want. Should the menu be completely static, or should it change depending on where you are? I think the best way to do this is to make each document a folder, that contains both subdocuments (other folders) and the contents of the document. The contents is most easily put into a DTMLMethod that you call "content" or something obvious like that. You can the create a template (either a DTMLMethod or a PageTemplate) in the root that contains the design, and inserts the "content" DTML-method in each page. This will mean that you only have the design in one place (the root) and use it for all document. You then create the menu as a part of this template, and you can have a menu that lists all the sub documents of the document you are currently viewing. Use OrderedFolder for the documents so you control the order or the subfolders. That's it really. It's your own content management system, and it takes a couple of hours to make. :-) From curtis.seyfried@verizon.net Sun Dec 15 03:10:35 2002 From: curtis.seyfried@verizon.net (Curtis Seyfried) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:10:35 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Port 80 on IE Message-ID: On Sat Dec. 14 2002 Jens vagelpohl wrote: >Message: 14 >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:05:24 -0500 >Subject: Re: [Zope] Internet Explorer, Manage, Port 80 >Cc: zope@zope.org >To: Robert Roberts >From: Jens Vagelpohl >i've seen problems on IE/mac before where that P.O.S. would not connect >to anything "localhost" but would connect to 127.0.0.1... have you >tried that? >jens >On Friday, Dec 13, 2002, at 13:42 US/Eastern, Robert Roberts wrote: > Has anyone else seen this problem and/or does anyone > know a fix. > If I run Zope on port 8080, I have no problem logging > in to manage the site (e.g. > http://localhost:8080/manage). > If I put Zope on port 80, I cannot log in to manage > the site (e.g. http://localhost/manage or > http://localhost:80/manage) when using Internet > Explorer only. > I have no problems when using Mozilla, Phoenix, or > Opera. I get the log in screen. Enter my UID and PW > and the browser just goes away (thinking) for > eternity. > I have tried IE 5.0 and IE 6.0. > I am running Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, > python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) running > on Win2K. >> Thanks, Robert and Jens, I have had to run ZOPE also on a different port so as to not conflict with another ZOPE application I run. I also have IE 6.0 sp1, and Win 2000 pro sp3, both with all security patches. In trying to figure out how to configure a different port I set the port to "81" which works fine. I did not try 80 so do not know if it is a problem for me also and since 81 works fine I'm going to leave it. So maybe it is just port 80 that has a problem, try 81 and see what happens. Curtis Seyfried From greg.mccall@telstra.com Sun Dec 15 03:47:31 2002 From: greg.mccall@telstra.com (Greg McCall) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:47:31 +1100 Subject: [Zope] Date calculations in Zope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2a3ec$b3fe1de0$bc3d30cb@greg> Thanks but like the API reference, which I did check, and your = information gives little help in how to solve the problem. The reference doc is far too cryptic. It should show examples which can = be directly tried in Zope.=20 A quick check of the web version of the book (something I would not = normally use) I find the following note added: (and it seems its author is also = not impressed with the doc)=20 The comments also supply the following URL http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/990690237 And this seems like an important example of how to display time stuff = (no calculations though) using DateTime() Another date example using ZopeTime() is at http://www.zope.org/Members/jooi/HowToDateCalculation I don't know why ZopeTime() exists as well as DateTime() or which = routine is best. I do know Zope is often does things in obscure ways with little help and that comments like yours suggest the doc is fine and it must just be the user who will not read the info (all of it and keep all the bits in your head just to do a few simple jobs)=20 -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of = Dennis Allison Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 10:24 AM To: Greg McCall Cc: zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Date calculations in Zope On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Greg McCall wrote: > Hi > I am having trouble performing date calculations in Zope. > I have a variable called dob which returns a date of birth from MySQL=20 > Ie. Date of Birth=3D works fine I would like to be able = to=20 > list the current age in years and months >=20 Read the DateTime() API carefully and use it. _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org = http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -=20 http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From hancock@anansispaceworks.com Sun Dec 15 08:37:27 2002 From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:37:27 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ZSQL arguments Message-ID: >From the DTML inside of a ZSQL method, is it possible to interrogate the list of arguments? Examing the source, I've tried various combinations of _ context.arguments self._arg self.argument_src argument_src _.argument_src and so on, but nothing seems to be understood. In particular, "_" is defined, but seems to be empty (at least a repr(_) doesn't render anything into the query. It doesn't seem that this information is made available to the DTML code in a ZSQL method. I'm asking because I have a fairly wide table that I want to be able to update on essentially any field with optional arguments. There's nothing equivalent to the structure for controlling input, so I'm left with something like: SET arg1 = , for a couple dozen arguments, which is sort of tiresome, especially since this would change if the schema changes. It'd be nice to be able to code this as a loop, but it's awkward without being able to handle the arguments as a structure. I can of course do some cut and paste in my editor and solve the problem, but I wondered if there's a more elegant solution. Cheers, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com "Some things are too important to be taken seriously" From s.morris@bangor.ac.uk Sun Dec 15 10:52:20 2002 From: s.morris@bangor.ac.uk (Sion Morris) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:52:20 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Job advert Message-ID: I hope this will be of some interest to some of you.... UNIVERSITY OF WALES, BANGOR SCHOOL OF PSYCHOLOGY Web Application Developer ALC Grade 2: =A321,125 - =A327,339 p.a. The School of Psychology has been developing an integrated computerised management information system in order to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of its operations. We require a Web Application Developer to work closely with both administrative and computer support staff in the School. The post-holder will develop web applications with Zope application server to provide an intranet resource to support administration of the School. The person appointed will have good problem solving, documentation, communication and organisational skills. Applicants should hold a degree in computing, engineering or science discipline, or alternatively have substantial experience in this field. Applicants should have strong background in Python and Web application development. Application forms and further particulars should be obtained by contacting Human Resources, University of Wales, Bangor, Gwynedd LL57 2DG; tel: (01248) 382926/388132; e-mail: personnel@bangor.ac.uk Please quote reference number 02-2/108 when applying. Closing date for applications: Friday 10th January, 2003. Informal enquiries can be made by contacting Sion Morris, tel: (01248) 382469; Phyllis Williams, I.T. Manager, tel: (01248) 388210; and/or Linda Shutt, School Administrator, tel: (01248) 383622. Many thanks Sion From sean@horse101.com Sun Dec 15 17:24:02 2002 From: sean@horse101.com (Sean Kelley) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:24:02 -0800 Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax- check file existence Message-ID: <3DFCBAB2.8050401@horse101.com> Hi I need help checking the existence of a file in a sub folder. if file(graphic) in sub folder exists display graphic else display message that there is no graphic The tricky part of this for me is that I have an ID for a graphic which is available in a loop so the graphic I am testing the existence of is named "id.thumb.jpg" and is in a sub folder so if I do another dtml-in my ID is not available in the second in loop. A partial failed example:

.thumb.jpg> // I know this is not right

// and know id is not available at this level but not sure how to pass it along. no image

From vattekat.babu@verizon.net Sun Dec 15 17:48:20 2002 From: vattekat.babu@verizon.net (Satheesh Babu) Date: 15 Dec 2002 12:48:20 -0500 Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax- check file existence In-Reply-To: <3DFCBAB2.8050401@horse101.com> References: <3DFCBAB2.8050401@horse101.com> Message-ID: <1039974500.2487.3.camel@toshiba.leesburg.pike> try this (not tested): has the image no image see this for more info: http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1001104105 S Babu http://vsbabu.org/ On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 12:24, Sean Kelley wrote: > > > Hi > > I need help checking the existence of a file in a sub folder. > > > > if file(graphic) in sub folder exists > > display graphic > > else > > display message that there is no graphic > > > > The tricky part of this for me is that I have an ID for a graphic which > is available in a loop > > so the graphic I am testing the existence of is named "id.thumb.jpg" and > is in a sub folder so if I do another dtml-in my ID is not available in > the second in loop. > > > > A partial failed example: > > > > .thumb.jpg> > // I know this is not right > >

> // and know id is not available at this level but not sure > how to pass it along. > > > > no image > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From kyler-dated-1040578352.848fde@lairds.org Sun Dec 15 17:48:51 2002 From: kyler-dated-1040578352.848fde@lairds.org (Kyler Laird) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:48:51 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal? Message-ID: <20021215174851.GK3851@remote.lairds.org> This is going to be a horribly-formed request, but I'm looking for some guidance on evaluating a product being pitched. The product is UNICON Academus. http://www.unicon.net/academus/products/overview.html It's based on uPortal http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/ a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of higher- education." UNICON's offerings appear to be closed and, at least for the authoring tool, MS Windows-only. I want Free tools. uPortal is better than something like Blackboard, but it still has some severe limitations due to its licensing. I'm wondering if I can confidently say that Zope can readily perform the same functions. I like using Zope for most everything these days, but every time I go to battle against CMF, I come away ready to continue using other methods for awhile. I suspect that CMF is what I would need to use to get uPortal/Academus-type functionality without starting from scratch. So...any opinions? I'm looking for comments like "Zope can't touch Academus without a *lot* of work" or "Oh, yeah, just fight through CMF and you're almost there." Specifics would be great, but I'll be happy just to get some insight. (If there's something besides CMF that can handle this role, I'll be especially interested.) Of course, I'd also be happy to receive offers to provide Academus-like functionality in Zope using Free software for a price on the order of that of Academus. (I don't know how much they charge yet, but I will soon.) Thank you. --kyler From christof.robert@wanadoo.fr Sun Dec 15 22:07:51 2002 From: christof.robert@wanadoo.fr (robert christophe) Date: 15 Dec 2002 23:07:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal? In-Reply-To: <20021215174851.GK3851@remote.lairds.org> References: <20021215174851.GK3851@remote.lairds.org> Message-ID: <1039990072.4861.8.camel@station> Le dim 15/12/2002 =E0 18:48, Kyler Laird a =E9crit : > This is going to be a horribly-formed request, but I'm looking for some > guidance on evaluating a product being pitched. The product is UNICON > Academus. > http://www.unicon.net/academus/products/overview.html >=20 > It's based on uPortal > http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/ > a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of higher- > education." UNICON's offerings appear to be closed and, at least for > the authoring tool, MS Windows-only. >=20 > I want Free tools. uPortal is better than something like Blackboard, > but it still has some severe limitations due to its licensing. I'm > wondering if I can confidently say that Zope can readily perform the > same functions. >=20 > I like using Zope for most everything these days, but every time I go > to battle against CMF, I come away ready to continue using other > methods for awhile. I suspect that CMF is what I would need to use to > get uPortal/Academus-type functionality without starting from scratch. >=20 You can try "Nuxeo Collaborative Portal Server" . http://www.nuxeo.org/cps > So...any opinions? I'm looking for comments like "Zope can't touch > Academus without a *lot* of work" or "Oh, yeah, just fight through CMF > and you're almost there." Specifics would be great, but I'll be happy > just to get some insight. (If there's something besides CMF that can > handle this role, I'll be especially interested.) >=20 > Of course, I'd also be happy to receive offers to provide Academus-like > functionality in Zope using Free software for a price on the order of > that of Academus. (I don't know how much they charge yet, but I will > soon.) >=20 > Thank you. >=20 > --kyler >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists -=20 > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From alex@byzantine.no Sun Dec 15 18:10:49 2002 From: alex@byzantine.no (Alexander Staubo) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:10:49 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal? In-Reply-To: <20021215174851.GK3851@remote.lairds.org> Message-ID: <000101c2a465$4c4afc30$0201a8c0@felix> I don't know Amadeus or uPortal, but since you express some disgruntlement (which I share) over CMF, have you looked at Plone (http://www.plone.org/)? It's based on CMF, easy to install and fully usable "out of the box". --A. > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On > Behalf Of Kyler Laird > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 6:49 PM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal? > > > This is going to be a horribly-formed request, but I'm > looking for some guidance on evaluating a product being > pitched. The product is UNICON Academus. > http://www.unicon.net/academus/products/overview.html > > It's based on uPortal > http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/ > a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of > higher- education." UNICON's offerings appear to be closed > and, at least for the authoring tool, MS Windows-only. > > I want Free tools. uPortal is better than something like > Blackboard, but it still has some severe limitations due to > its licensing. I'm wondering if I can confidently say that > Zope can readily perform the same functions. > > I like using Zope for most everything these days, but every > time I go to battle against CMF, I come away ready to > continue using other methods for awhile. I suspect that CMF > is what I would need to use to get uPortal/Academus-type > functionality without starting from scratch. > > So...any opinions? I'm looking for comments like "Zope can't > touch Academus without a *lot* of work" or "Oh, yeah, just > fight through CMF and you're almost there." Specifics would > be great, but I'll be happy just to get some insight. (If > there's something besides CMF that can handle this role, I'll > be especially interested.) > > Of course, I'd also be happy to receive offers to provide > Academus-like functionality in Zope using Free software for a > price on the order of that of Academus. (I don't know how > much they charge yet, but I will > soon.) > > Thank you. > > --kyler > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross > posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > From daniel.fairs@spiderplant.net Sun Dec 15 19:45:19 2002 From: daniel.fairs@spiderplant.net (Dan Fairs) Date: 15 Dec 2002 19:45:19 +0000 Subject: [Zope] TALES and Acquisition Message-ID: <1039981519.12972.18.camel@goldfish.glitter.org.uk> Hi, I've just had a quick flick through the archives but can't find the answer to my question. I'm a newbie to TAL and TALES, though I've dabbled in Zope before. Now I'm starting to play with page templates, as they seem more elegant than DTML. However, I have one question. Is it possible for TALES expressions to make use of acquisition? As a trivial example, say I have a script called getRoot in the root folder that returns the URL of where that script lives. Say also I have a folder off the root called MyFolder, which contains the following link: My Link Somewhere Now, I would intuitively have expected Zope to look in the container for getRoot (ie. MyFolder), fail to find it, and look in the parent folder, then execute it there. However - this doesn't happen. And I can't find any mention of acquisition in the TAL docs. How do the two interoperate? Pointers to relevant comments/docs are appreciated? Many thanks, Dan From pw_lists@slinkp.com Sun Dec 15 20:54:50 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:54:50 -0800 Subject: [Zope] TALES and Acquisition In-Reply-To: <1039981519.12972.18.camel@goldfish.glitter.org.uk> References: <1039981519.12972.18.camel@goldfish.glitter.org.uk> Message-ID: <20021215205450.GB14795@slinkp.com> On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 07:45:19PM +0000, Dan Fairs wrote: > DTML. However, I have one question. Is it possible for TALES expressions > to make use of acquisition? Yes. > As a trivial example, say I have a script called getRoot in the root > folder that returns the URL of where that script lives. Say also I have > a folder off the root called MyFolder, which contains the following > link: > > tal:attributes="href container/getRoot">My Link Somewhere > > Now, I would intuitively have expected Zope to look in the container for > getRoot (ie. MyFolder), fail to find it, and look in the parent folder, > then execute it there. However - this doesn't happen. "It doesn't work" is rarely adequate information for anyone to diagnose a problem... what you describe *does* work when everything is correctly in place. Spelling error perhaps? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From a.peluso@fulltrading.it Sun Dec 15 19:06:59 2002 From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (catonano) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:06:59 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? In-Reply-To: <20021213203225.GJ7509@slinkp.com> Message-ID: <632E2CA6-1060-11D7-AAD4-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> Paul and Jerome, Venerd=EC, 13 Dic 2002, alle 21:32 Europe/Rome, Paul Winkler ha scritto: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 08:19:56PM +0100, Jerome Alet wrote: >> I wanted to keep all but the last one, of course, so this >> is probably something more like this one : >> >> return '.'.join(context.getId().split('.')[:-1]) > > ... which does in one line what I did in 4. > TMTOWTDI lives :) > thanks a lot to the both of you. I didn't realize I could place such a script to make it inherited by=20 sub-branches even if I HAD read about acquisition !! Thanks! Now may I ask for a bit more help? i'm so near the solution! Well I used the 4 lines script because I was a bit intimidated by the 1=20= line one. Still, reading it a little better, I understood it uses a string as a=20 stack with the dot as a distinction point ('my.String.htm'.split(.)=20 should give back a stack made like this: htm String my right? ) I was disappointed when I saw I haven't got the string API reference in=20= Zope but I have to connect to the Internet to read it. Too bad I don't=20= always have a net connection at my disposal. Back to us, I had to do a small modification to the 4 lines script; it=20= was import string name =3D context.getId() splitname =3D id.split('.') // where's 'id' defined? splitname.pop() # get rid of the extension name =3D string.join(splitname, '.') # reassemble the string return name but it had to be import string name =3D context.getId() splitname =3D NAME.split('.') //(the right reference is 'name' = not=20 id ;) )) splitname.pop() # get rid of the extension name =3D string.join(splitname, '.') # reassemble the string return name Ok, now, I'm a good pupil !! ;-) The one thing I can't still do is search files in my catalog whose=20 names CONTAINS a substring. I can search files names taht start with or end with a substring=20 (catalogue.searchResults({'code': '*' + aString} and=20 catalogue.searchResults({'code': aString + '*') No more. How do I search general substrings (the common 'contains'=20 relation?) Thanks so much, anyway Bye Catonano= From daniel.fairs@spiderplant.net Sun Dec 15 22:32:28 2002 From: daniel.fairs@spiderplant.net (Dan Fairs) Date: 15 Dec 2002 22:32:28 +0000 Subject: [Zope] TALES and Acquisition In-Reply-To: <20021215205450.GB14795@slinkp.com> References: <1039981519.12972.18.camel@goldfish.glitter.org.uk> <20021215205450.GB14795@slinkp.com> Message-ID: <1039991552.12972.27.camel@goldfish.glitter.org.uk> > > "It doesn't work" is rarely adequate information for anyone to diagnose Apologies for the lack of detail - I was just intending it as a general background to my previous error. As to my previous example - yes, you were right, spelling error :) Funny how you only notice typos when you ask the world about them... Thanks for your time. Cheers, Dan From ken@cleveland.lug.net Sun Dec 15 23:06:07 2002 From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:06:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Accessing manager screen Message-ID: Several times now I've tried to get into the manager screen from the zopy home page (approx. http://localhost.localdomain) without any luck. I tried the user & passwd given after the install and that didn't work. So I "cd /usr/share/zope" and "python2.1 zpasswd.py access", go through the prompts. Here's the access file: admin:password That's it. There's not even a CR at the end of the one line. Because I chose "cleartext" for encoding, you can see the user is "admin" and the password is "password". At the prompt for "Domain restrictions:" I just hit "Enter" (though I tried other things... don't really know what this prompt is asking for anyway). Nothing has worked. I even restarted zope a few times in between some of these attempts. So what do I have to drink to log into the manager screen. tia, ken From pw_lists@slinkp.com Sun Dec 15 23:25:37 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 15:25:37 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Am I doing right? In-Reply-To: <632E2CA6-1060-11D7-AAD4-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> References: <20021213203225.GJ7509@slinkp.com> <632E2CA6-1060-11D7-AAD4-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it> Message-ID: <20021215232537.GA13440@slinkp.com> On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:06:59PM +0100, catonano wrote: > Still, reading it a little better, I understood it uses a string as a > stack with the dot as a distinction point ('my.String.htm'.split(.) oops, don't forget the quotes around the dot. > should give back a stack made like this: > > htm > String > my > > right? You can think of it that way... technically, some_string.split() returns a list: ['my', 'String', 'htm'] Lists can be treated like stacks in some respects; they have a pop() method which removes and returns the last element in the list. > I was disappointed when I saw I haven't got the string API reference in > Zope but I have to connect to the Internet to read it. Too bad I don't > always have a net connection at my disposal. you should grab the python documentation from python.org, very good to have around. > Back to us, I had to do a small modification to the 4 lines script; it > was > > > import string > name = context.getId() > splitname = id.split('.') // where's 'id' defined? oops, my mistake... should have been splitname = name.split('.') > The one thing I can't still do is search files in my catalog whose > names CONTAINS a substring. don't really know, sorry. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From kedai@kedai.com.my Mon Dec 16 02:43:37 2002 From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:43:37 +0800 Subject: [Zope] bug? type error unicode creating zclass in zope2.6.1b1 Message-ID: <200212161043.37265.kedai@kedai.com.my> hi when creating zclass in zope2.6.1b1, i have this error[1] it works if i use zope 2.6.0 -- [1] traceback TypeError Sorry, a site error occurred. Traceback (innermost last): * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish * Module Zope.App.startup, line 182, in zpublisher_exception_hook * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish * Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 236, in commit * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 352, in _commit_objects * Module ZODB.Connection, line 388, in commit __traceback_info__: (('ZClasses.ZClass', 'ZClass'),=20 '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x02Ie', '') TypeError: expected string or Unicode object, None found=20 --=20 =09http://www.kedai.com.my/ http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine =09http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai http://www.my-zope.org =09use Zope? you got HOPE From rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net Mon Dec 16 03:49:20 2002 From: rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net (John Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:49:20 +0800 Subject: [Zope] CMF Article and DC Workflow Problem Message-ID: Hi I just set up a CMF portal with a couple of custom types and noticed that CMF Article in private and pending status are viewable if the Reviewer knows the URL for them unlike other content types like News Item and Document which notifies the reviewer when a certain news items or document are in pending mode. From rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net Mon Dec 16 04:23:11 2002 From: rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net (John Paul) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:23:11 +0800 Subject: [Zope] FW: Delete user and users folder Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: John Paul [mailto:rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:10 PM To: Zope Mailing List Subject: Delete user and users folder Hi, can somebody tell me how to delete a user and its members folder in python script. From andy@agmweb.ca Mon Dec 16 04:25:52 2002 From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:25:52 -0800 Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax- check file existence References: <3DFCBAB2.8050401@horse101.com> <1039974500.2487.3.camel@toshiba.leesburg.pike> Message-ID: <002101c2a4bb$38332230$0201a8c0@main> Or: has the image no image http://www.zopezen.org/Members/zopista/1022017227 -- Andy McKay From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk Sun Dec 15 21:33:18 2002 From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:33:18 -0000 Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal? Message-ID: <51872729.1039987998@[192.168.1.2]> --On 15 December 2002 12:48 -0500 Kyler Laird wrote: > This is going to be a horribly-formed request, but I'm looking for some > guidance on evaluating a product being pitched. The product is UNICON > Academus. > http://www.unicon.net/academus/products/overview.html > > It's based on uPortal > http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/ > a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of higher- > education." UNICON's offerings appear to be closed and, at least for > the authoring tool, MS Windows-only. > > I want Free tools. uPortal is better than something like Blackboard, > but it still has some severe limitations due to its licensing. Whoa. Don't confuse UNICON (about which I know precious little) and uPortal (about which I know a bit). Have you read the uPortal license? I don't see any cause for concern there. > I'm > wondering if I can confidently say that Zope can readily perform the > same functions. I think you can get a powerful framework like Zope +/- CMF to do reproduce uPortal. But you'd have to write the code first. There are some interesting developments like CMFPortlets which show what is possible but they have some way to go to match uPortal. The University of Bristol wrestled with this question for a while - and then jumped both ways (uPortal for portal framework, Zope for CM framework). You can read more at: Paul > > I like using Zope for most everything these days, but every time I go > to battle against CMF, I come away ready to continue using other > methods for awhile. I suspect that CMF is what I would need to use to > get uPortal/Academus-type functionality without starting from scratch. > > So...any opinions? I'm looking for comments like "Zope can't touch > Academus without a *lot* of work" or "Oh, yeah, just fight through CMF > and you're almost there." Specifics would be great, but I'll be happy > just to get some insight. (If there's something besides CMF that can > handle this role, I'll be especially interested.) > > Of course, I'd also be happy to receive offers to provide Academus-like > functionality in Zope using Free software for a price on the order of > that of Academus. (I don't know how much they charge yet, but I will > soon.) > > Thank you. > > --kyler > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > -- The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/ From mpayson@dawgdayz.com Mon Dec 16 08:52:13 2002 From: mpayson@dawgdayz.com (Mike Payson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 00:52:13 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Zope won't start: "module ZODB.cPersistence not loaded" Message-ID: <200212160052.13431.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> I've just installed Zope, but I can't get it to start. I get the followin= g=20 error: bash-2.05$ ./start /usr/home/mpayson/Zope-2.6.0-src/z2.py:378: UserWarning: You are running=20 Python version 2.1.1. This Python version has known bugs that may cause = Zope=20 to run improperly. Consider upgrading to a Python in the 2.1 series with = at=20 least version number 2.1.3. (Note that Zope does not yet run under any=20 Python 2.2 version). warnings.warn(err) ------ 2002-12-16T07:48:47 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 27298 /usr/home/mpayson/Zope-2.6.0-src/z2.py:378: UserWarning: You are running=20 Python version 2.1.1. This Python version has known bugs that may cause = Zope=20 to run improperly. Consider upgrading to a Python in the 2.1 series with = at=20 least version number 2.1.3. (Note that Zope does not yet run under any=20 Python 2.2 version). warnings.warn(err) ------ 2002-12-16T07:48:47 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): Module __main__, line 580, in ? Module , line 1, in ? Module Zope, line 21, in ? Module ZODB, line 15, in ? SystemError: _PyImport_FixupExtension: module ZODB.cPersistence not loade= d Clearly, I need to upgrade Python, but I'm assuming that's not the origin= of=20 the error. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! --=20 Mike Payson | DawgDayz Dog Walking & Pet Sitting (206) 280-7295 | www.dawgdayz.com | mpayson@dawgdayz.com From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 16 08:55:30 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 16 Dec 2002 03:55:30 -0500 Subject: [Zope] bug day in about 4 hours. Message-ID: <1040028931.1781.9.camel@james> Just a reminder: there will be a "Bug Day" taking place on irc.openprojects.net on #zope-dev starting at 8:30 am US EST today, Monday December 16. I may not be there for the kickoff, seeing as I need to get a bit of sleep, but I'm sure other folks will. - C From shashank@hbcse.tifr.res.in Mon Dec 16 09:13:56 2002 From: shashank@hbcse.tifr.res.in (Shashank Ashtikar) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:43:56 +0530 Subject: [Zope] Changes in ZCatalog for zope 2.6 Message-ID: <20021216091356.GA23871@hbcse.tifr.res.in> Hi Everybody, I am new to zope. I ve been working on a zope product which makes uses of Catalog. Product was working fine of zope 2.5.1 recently we switched to Zope 2.6 since then following lines started giving an error. If I comment these lines product works fine. ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('id','FieldIndex') ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('title','FieldIndex') ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('meta_type','FieldIndex') ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('bobobase_modification_time','FieldIndex') ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('PrincipiaSearchSource','FieldIndex') ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('path','TextIndex') ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('id') ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('title') ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('meta_type') ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('bobobase_modification_time') ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('summary') These lines are executed during instantiation of the product. Please help. Thanx in advnce Shashank From kedai@kedai.com.my Mon Dec 16 09:16:55 2002 From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:16:55 +0800 Subject: [Zope] Changes in ZCatalog for zope 2.6 In-Reply-To: <20021216091356.GA23871@hbcse.tifr.res.in> References: <20021216091356.GA23871@hbcse.tifr.res.in> Message-ID: <200212161716.55482.kedai@kedai.com.my> On Monday 16 December 2002 17:13, Shashank Ashtikar wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I am new to zope. I ve been working on a zope product which makes uses = of > Catalog. Product was working fine of zope 2.5.1 recently we switched to > Zope 2.6 since then following lines started giving an error. If I comme= nt > these lines product works fine. > > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('id','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('title','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('meta_type','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('bobobase_modification_time','FieldIndex= ') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('PrincipiaSearchSource','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('path','TextIndex') > > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('id') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('title') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('meta_type') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('bobobase_modification_time') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('summary') > > These lines are executed during instantiation of the product. > > Please help. zope 2.6.x comes with clean catalog. so these extra steps are no longer=20 required. but if we are using some of the stuff,like id , meta_type, etc= , we=20 need to add them in :P either way, it may be a ggod news bad news situation, depending on where = we=20 are :P hth > > Thanx in advnce > > Shashank > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) --=20 =09http://www.kedai.com.my/ http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine =09http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai http://www.my-zope.org =09We don't need no, no no no, no parental guidance here From thierry.florac@onf.fr Mon Dec 16 09:32:54 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 16 Dec 2002 10:32:54 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Changes in ZCatalog for zope 2.6 In-Reply-To: <20021216091356.GA23871@hbcse.tifr.res.in> References: <20021216091356.GA23871@hbcse.tifr.res.in> Message-ID: <1040031175.9100.0.camel@m22241> On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 10:13, Shashank Ashtikar wrote: > Hi Everybody, > > I am new to zope. I ve been working on a zope product which makes uses of Catalog. Product was working fine of zope > 2.5.1 recently we switched to Zope 2.6 since then following lines started giving an error. If I comment these lines > product works fine. > > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('id','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('title','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('meta_type','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('bobobase_modification_time','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('PrincipiaSearchSource','FieldIndex') > ex.Catalog.manage_delIndex('path','TextIndex') > > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('id') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('title') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('meta_type') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('bobobase_modification_time') > ex.Catalog.manage_delColumn('summary') > > These lines are executed during instantiation of the product. It's probably because since release 2.6 of Zope, catalogs are created empty, without any index or metadata... Thierry From mpayson@dawgdayz.com Mon Dec 16 09:42:24 2002 From: mpayson@dawgdayz.com (Mike Payson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:42:24 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Zope won't start: "module ZODB.cPersistence not loaded" In-Reply-To: <200212160052.13431.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> References: <200212160052.13431.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> Message-ID: <200212160142.24763.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> Disregard... Upgrading Python did fix the problem... On Monday 16 December 2002 12:52 am, Mike Payson wrote: > I've just installed Zope, but I can't get it to start. I get the follow= ing > error: > > bash-2.05$ ./start > /usr/home/mpayson/Zope-2.6.0-src/z2.py:378: UserWarning: You are runnin= g > Python version 2.1.1. This Python version has known bugs that may caus= e > Zope to run improperly. Consider upgrading to a Python in the 2.1 serie= s > with at least version number 2.1.3. (Note that Zope does not yet run u= nder > any Python 2.2 version). > warnings.warn(err) > ------ > 2002-12-16T07:48:47 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 27298 > /usr/home/mpayson/Zope-2.6.0-src/z2.py:378: UserWarning: You are runnin= g > Python version 2.1.1. This Python version has known bugs that may caus= e > Zope to run improperly. Consider upgrading to a Python in the 2.1 serie= s > with at least version number 2.1.3. (Note that Zope does not yet run u= nder > any Python 2.2 version). > warnings.warn(err) > ------ > 2002-12-16T07:48:47 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception > Traceback (innermost last): > Module __main__, line 580, in ? > Module , line 1, in ? > Module Zope, line 21, in ? > Module ZODB, line 15, in ? > SystemError: _PyImport_FixupExtension: module ZODB.cPersistence not loa= ded > > > Clearly, I need to upgrade Python, but I'm assuming that's not the orig= in > of the error. Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! --=20 Mike Payson | DawgDayz Dog Walking & Pet Sitting (206) 280-7295 | www.dawgdayz.com | mpayson@dawgdayz.com From elena.schulz@gmx.net Mon Dec 16 09:58:02 2002 From: elena.schulz@gmx.net (Elena Schulz) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:58:02 +0100 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods Message-ID: <000201c2a4ec$82a231e0$fe78a8c0@PCA> wow Paul, that's just what I was looking for. The **syntax is not bound to 'args', it could be also **myargsname I guess, isn't it? Thank's a lot for your very detailed explanation. I'll use it often :) -- Elena From =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?= Mon Dec 16 10:23:46 2002 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?= (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:23:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Zope] SimpleUserFolder and sha-crypted passwd Message-ID: Hi I want to put my old loginmanager to rest and put something simple in. SimpleUserFolder sounds nice, but it seems to do the password matching itself, and since I have sha-crypted passwords, I need to match the passwords in encrypted format. Any ideas? If none, can u please tell me to *not* use SimpleUserFolder(perhaps you have an alternative as well?). For the record; I keep my users in a database. Thankyou! regards Bjorge -- http://www.ii.uib.no/~bjorge/smile/Smiles -- Bjørge Solli - Universitas Bergensis, Norway mailto:Bjorge@Kvarteret.no icq#29210281 MSN:bobelloco@hotmail.com Møllendalsv.19, 5009 Bergen, Norway tel:+47 55202853/91614343 From jiggs@mac.com Mon Dec 16 10:46:14 2002 From: jiggs@mac.com (Jose Angelo P. Abarentos) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:46:14 +0800 Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument Message-ID: Hello Zopistas, I've been wrestling with Eric Barroca's MSWordDocument product for days now, trying to get the HTML version of a Word file to output on my DTML document. I've tried: but it seem to only print "MSWordDocument instance at... ". I also went to the product's source and saw a method that looks like what I needed, getDocHTML. So I tried: but now it's giving me an "AttributeError". I'm relatively new to Zope and Python so I would really appreciate it if any of you more experienced Zope people could care to help. -- Angelo Abarentos, a Zope newbie From jiggs@mac.com Mon Dec 16 10:47:16 2002 From: jiggs@mac.com (Jose Angelo P. Abarentos) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:47:16 +0800 Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument Message-ID: Hello Zopistas, I've been wrestling with Eric Barroca's MSWordDocument product for days now, trying to get the HTML version of a Word file to output on my DTML document. I've tried: but it seem to only print "MSWordDocument instance at... ". I also went to the product's source and saw a method that looks like what I needed, getDocHTML. So I tried: but now it's giving me an "AttributeError". I'm relatively new to Zope and Python so I would really appreciate it if any of you more experienced Zope people could care to help. -- Angelo Abarentos, a Zope newbie From thierry.florac@onf.fr Mon Dec 16 13:11:17 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 16 Dec 2002 14:11:17 +0100 Subject: [Zope] BTreeFolder inheritance problem Message-ID: <1040044277.9100.22.camel@m22241> Hi, I've created a new product (for Zope-2.6), which inherit from BTreeFolder as well as another custom product (not a container) of my own. When I try to add a new item in my folder, I receive an error message. For example, class MyBTreeFolder (BTreeFolder): def __init__ (self, id, title=None, REQUEST=None): "" self.id = id self.title = title folder = Folder (id='archives') set._setObject (folder.id, folder) ... At runtime, I receive the following error : Traceback (innermost last): * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object * Module Products.Intraforet.MyBTreeFolder, line 428, in manage_addMyBTreeFolder * Module Products.Intraforet.MyBTreeFolder, line 138, in __init__ * Module OFS.ObjectManager, line 256, in _setObject * Module Products.BTreeFolder.BTreeFolder, line 187, in _setOb TypeError: object does not support item assignment What does this meen ?? Thanks for any help... Thierry P.S.: I've created other products inheriting from ObjectManager instead of BTreeFolder, without any problem... -- Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away... http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr Mon Dec 16 13:08:21 2002 From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:08:21 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Plone and Zope: space character in URI..... References: Message-ID: <003501c2a504$36240e20$0100a8c0@AHAH> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2A50C.97529EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With a brand new plone I asked, as I'm not logged http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit I keep waiting ... the window of Iexplore 6.0 doesn't respond anymore I notice that the title of the requested page is=20 http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/login_form?came_from=3Dhttp:3A//dani= elle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit&retry=3D if I asked in an another window=20 http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/login_form?came_from=3Dhttp://daniel= le.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit&retry=3D it does work.... as it should be.. I'm asked to sign in ... meanwhile I have no such problems with Mozilla I looked at the source and I can see "irregularities" Join is working... but if I try to import the URL http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/ in = HTml toolkit, it is turn not to answered... at the contrary=20 http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/index_html will work and would also = also http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/ here the comment of Tidy for Zope CMF portal index_html "URIs must be properly escaped, they must not contain unescaped = characters below U+0021 including the space character and not above = U+007E.=20 Tidy escapes the URI for you as recommended by HTML 4.01 section B.2.1 = and XML 1.0 section 4.2.2. Some user agents use another algorithm to escape such URIs and some = server-sided scripts depend on that. If you want to depend on that, you = must escape the URI by your own. For more information please refer to = http://www.w3.org/International/O-URL-and-ident.html" ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2A50C.97529EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

With a brand new plone I asked, as I'm not logged

http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit

I keep waiting ... the window of = Iexplore 6.0=20 doesn't respond anymore

I notice that the title of the = requested page=20 is

http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/login_form?came_from=3Dhttp= :3A//danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit&retry=3D

if I asked in an another window =

http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/login_form?came_from=3Dhttp= ://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit&retry<= /A>=3D

it does work.... as it should be.. I'm = asked to=20 sign in ...

meanwhile I have no such problems with=20 Mozilla

I looked at the source and I can see=20 "irregularities"

<a href=3D" http://... with a = space between=20 " and http

OK I am anyway ready to give up = Plone... I=20 encountered too many problems already

But just to be reassured... I looked at = the=20 rendered html given by a new Zope CMF portal (noname)

and I can see as well, only in a = smaller number (1=20 for the index_html), the same fault.....

first it doesn't seem to have any=20 consequences..

the link <a = href=3D"=20 Joinhttp://danielle.zettai.net/noname/join_form">Join</a> is working...

but if I try to import the URL = http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/ in HTml toolkit, it is turn not to = answered...

at the contrary

http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/index_html will work and would also also http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/

here the comment of Tidy for Zope = CMF portal=20 index_html

"URIs must be properly escaped, they = must not=20 contain unescaped characters below U+0021 including the space character = and not=20 above U+007E.

Tidy escapes the URI for you as = recommended by HTML=20 4.01 section B.2.1 and XML 1.0 section 4.2.2.

Some user agents use another algorithm = to escape=20 such URIs and some server-sided scripts depend on that. If you want to = depend on=20 that, you must escape the URI by your own. For more information please = refer to=20 http://www.w3.org/International/O-URL-and-ident.html<= FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>"

= ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C2A50C.97529EC0-- From ah345@city.ac.uk Mon Dec 16 13:13:19 2002 From: ah345@city.ac.uk (PAB Bengtsson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:13:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 beta1 no tracebacks Message-ID: Installed Zope 2.6.1beta1 today and on a particular webpage I have created I get an error (no big deal) Error Type: RuntimeError Error Value: external method could not be called because it is None Fair enough, but where's the traceback? I run it with -D and there's nothing in the HTML. I have never seen a Zope error before without a traceback. Is there a reason? Is it a bug? Peter From zope@digital-adventures.nl Mon Dec 16 13:09:04 2002 From: zope@digital-adventures.nl (Martin Koekenberg) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:09:04 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Translate the day and Month in Dutch Message-ID: hello, I've an agenda with event in dutch, mij server uses English day & month names. Is there a function or something like that to translate them into dutch. Friday -> Vrijdag and January -> januari. Who can help me ?? Martin Koekenberg From phil@harris-family.info Mon Dec 16 13:20:32 2002 From: phil@harris-family.info (Phil Harris) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:20:32 -0000 Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 beta1 no tracebacks References: Message-ID: Peter, By default the newer Zopes don't supply traceback information in the HTML anymore. Take a look in the root of your zope site, and you should find a new doohickey called error_log, take a look in there. Phil On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:13:19 +0000 (GMT), PAB Bengtsson wrote: > Installed Zope 2.6.1beta1 today and on a particular webpage I have > created > I get an error (no big deal) > > Error Type: RuntimeError > Error Value: external method could not be called because it is None > > Fair enough, but where's the traceback? I run it with -D and there's > nothing in the HTML. > > I have never seen a Zope error before without a traceback. Is there a > reason? > Is it a bug? > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > -- Phil Harris From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com Mon Dec 16 13:46:48 2002 From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:46:48 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains In-Reply-To: <15866.22391.892987.950645@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: I read that before I sent my question! But I'm setting .mydomain.com as my domain name, and netscape is not recognizing that the cookie applies to http://mydomain.com On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 04:56 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Chris Muldrow writes: >> We're using ZEO to feed two Zope clients and we're using Sessions >> with a >> packless storage to keep track of session info. It works great except >> for >> one problem related to Netscape 4 that I've seen referenced before in >> other >> contexts. I've got browseridmanager set to feed cookies with a domain >> of >> .mydomain.com. So www1.mydomain.com and www2.mydomain.com and >> www.mydomain.com all work fine. But mydomain.com doesn't get a >> browser ID >> set. If I take off the domain setting in the browser ID manager, it >> works >> with Netscape 4 with mydomain.com but of course doesn't work on any >> of the >> other domains and doesn't share domain info across the board. Is >> there any >> workaround for this short of forcing them to a www.mydomain.com URL? >> Thanks! > Read the cookie specification (search via Google on "netscape.com"). > > > Dieter > From brabander@fsw.LeidenUniv.nl Mon Dec 16 13:53:28 2002 From: brabander@fsw.LeidenUniv.nl (Cornelis J. de Brabander) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:53:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Translate the day and Month in Dutch References: Message-ID: <002401c2a50a$9b3b3580$524ce584@fsw.leidenuniv.nl> I'm not sure what you are using, but the calendar tag (from the Calendar product) has multi-language support: and when you're not satisfied with the translations you can insert even your own: hth cb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Koekenberg" To: Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: [Zope] Translate the day and Month in Dutch > hello, > > I've an agenda with event in dutch, mij server uses English day & month > names. Is there a function or something like that to translate them into > dutch. Friday -> Vrijdag and January -> januari. > > Who can help me ?? > > Martin Koekenberg > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From gilles@pilotsystems.net Mon Dec 16 14:41:43 2002 From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:41:43 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Getting a Mysqldb.Connection objetct form ZMySAQLDA Message-ID: <525a01c2a511$410ccc20$0701a8c0@provence> Hi, Is it possible to get a MySQLdb.Connection object from a ZMySQLDA object ? I need this because my Python product builds the query string dynamically and a ZSQL Method is not suitable for this. Or should I parse the connection string and build my own Connection object ? Thanks in advance for your help --Gilles From kyler-dated-1040578352.848fde@lairds.org Mon Dec 16 14:31:21 2002 From: kyler-dated-1040578352.848fde@lairds.org (Kyler Laird) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:31:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal? In-Reply-To: <51872729.1039987998@[192.168.1.2]> References: <51872729.1039987998@[192.168.1.2]> Message-ID: <20021216143121.GP14591@remote.lairds.org> On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:33:18PM -0000, Paul Browning wrote: > >This is going to be a horribly-formed request, but I'm looking for some > >guidance on evaluating a product being pitched. The product is UNICON > >Academus. > > http://www.unicon.net/academus/products/overview.html > > > >It's based on uPortal > > http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/ > >a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of higher- > >education." UNICON's offerings appear to be closed and, at least for > >the authoring tool, MS Windows-only. > > > >I want Free tools. uPortal is better than something like Blackboard, > >but it still has some severe limitations due to its licensing. > > Whoa. Don't confuse UNICON (about which I know precious little) > and uPortal (about which I know a bit). Have you read the uPortal > license? Yes, and I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear. I'm quite aware that uPortal is a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of higher-education." This is a Good Thing. My objection is to putting something closed (UNICON's Academus) on top of it. 'course I'm not nearly as comfortable with the thought of using another development environment. I'd much prefer to stick with Zope for *everything* instead of having multiple environments. > I think you can get a powerful framework like Zope +/- CMF to do > reproduce uPortal. But you'd have to write the code first. One of the things I love about Zope is that it allows me to make tools for people to reuse as content *providers*. Universities are strange places and I often feel like even within the Zope world, there's little understanding of an environment where there are (tens of) thousands of potential independent authors. But Zope can be made to work in this situation. Any idea if uPortal lends itself to many authors creating content and tools for each other? Or does creating useful tools require the equivalent of creating External Methods or Products in Zope? > There > are some interesting developments like CMFPortlets Ah...more stuff I hadn't seen already. I like it. > The University of Bristol wrestled with this question for > a while - and then jumped both ways (uPortal for portal > framework, Zope for CM framework). Funny you'd mention them. This is one of the pages I'd found about uPortal: http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/portal/docs/uob_portal_rubric2.html > Lots of good links there. Thank you. BTW, my tendancy right now is to investigate Fle3 and Plone (possibly with NeoPortal additions). I'm also finally jumping in to using AbracadabraObjects and PropertyFolders (now that I hacked them to work on my installation). I'm getting more comfortable with being able to assert that I can make a reasonable environment for everyone to use - not just as consumers, but also as providers. Thank you for the help. --kyler From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl Mon Dec 16 14:38:44 2002 From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:38:44 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A510.D5C54A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 At our company we are checking out some development platforms (must be = crossplatform) we will going to use in the near future. Our list of = platforms is (PHP, JSP, ZOPE / Python, J2EE - Java). Our company focuses = itself mostly to webdevelopment for educational purposes. =20 I proposed Zope to be included in this list because i believe it is a = good, stable and innovative platform to use although still new to many. = Because of my proposal and familiarity of Zope, i was selected to give a = presentation which should (read MUST ;-) ) influence my colleagues so = that zope will be THE development within our organisation for the = future. =20 Currently there are ten points of consideration set by my boss. These = are not specific to zope but for all potential platforms. It would be = very helpfull if you would take some time giving me input on these = considerations. I will take them in account when making the = presentation. =20 Considerations: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 1. Object Orientation =20 In which ways is the language object oriented en which things are = missing from the language. =20 2. Server and client objects. =20 To what extend is it possible to define and use client side objects = aside from server components. e.g. Possibility to include/use special = tags which automagically instantiate the correct custom control objects. =20 3. Framework =20 How diverse is the default library of Objects and methods. (Guess this = is more a python thing besides the use of products) =20 4. Support =20 How / howfar is the development platform used by developers. Is there a good knowledge base / FAQ's available. Are there good / many newsgroups available... ( Hmmmm, depend on = response to this message ;-) )=20 =20 5. 3th party support =20 Are there extentional development tools available. What kind of engines are available. ( python / zope ) Are extra components available. If so, which. ( yeah yeah, Zope product = database is one) =20 6. Cost =20 What do the essential development tools cost. What are the costs to commercially use the development platform. =20 7. Userfriendly =20 How good is the development platform. Are all tools needed available. Is the platform intuitive to use. =20 8. Distribution =20 What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to = answer.. zope ??) =20 9. XML Support =20 Which tools are available. =20 10. Developer value =20 What is the value of a developer having good knowledge of the platform = on the jobmarket. =20 [11]. What are other pros/cons using Zope / Python as development = platform. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 So far the list. Last entry is my own. =20 Thanks in advance, =20 Daniel Hooymans Sofware developer www.edufocus.nl =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A510.D5C54A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

At our = company we=20 are checking out some development platforms (must be crossplatform) we = will=20 going to use in the near future. Our list of platforms is (PHP, JSP, = ZOPE /=20 Python, J2EE - Java). Our company focuses itself mostly to = webdevelopment for=20 educational purposes.

I = proposed Zope to=20 be included in this list because i believe it is a good, stable and = innovative=20 platform to use although still new to many. Because of my proposal and=20 familiarity of Zope, i was selected to give a presentation which should = (read=20 MUST ;-) ) influence my colleagues so that zope will be THE development = within=20 our organisation for the future.

Currently there are=20 ten points of consideration set by my boss. These are not specific to = zope but=20 for all potential platforms. It would be very = helpfull if=20 you would take some time giving me input on these considerations. I = will=20 take them in account when making=20 the presentation.

Considerations:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

1. = Object=20 Orientation

In = which ways is the=20 language object oriented en which things are missing from the=20 language.

2. = Server and client=20 objects.

To = what extend is it=20 possible to define and use client side objects aside from = server=20 components. e.g. Possibility to include/use special tags which=20 automagically instantiate the correct custom control=20 objects.

3.=20 Framework

How = diverse is the=20 default library of Objects and methods. (Guess this is more a python = thing=20 besides the use of products)

4.=20 Support

How / = howfar is the=20 development platform used by developers.

Is = there a good=20 knowledge base / FAQ's available.

Are = there good /=20 many newsgroups available... ( Hmmmm, depend on response to this = message=20 ;-) )

5. 3th = party=20 support

Are = there=20 extentional development tools available.

What = kind of engines=20 are available. ( python / zope )

Are = extra components=20 available. If so, which. ( yeah yeah, Zope product database is=20 one)

6.=20 Cost

What = do the=20 essential development tools cost.

What = are the costs=20 to commercially use the development platform.

7.=20 Userfriendly

How = good is the=20 development platform.

Are = all tools needed=20 available.

Is the=20 platform intuitive to use.

8.=20 Distribution

What = is needed to=20 host a website using the platform. (no need to answer.. zope=20 ??)

9. XML = Support

Which = tools are=20 available.

10. = Developer=20 value

What = is the value of=20 a developer having good knowledge of the platform on the=20 jobmarket.

[11]. = What are other=20 pros/cons using Zope / Python as development = platform.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

So far = the list.=20 Last entry is my own.

Thanks = in=20 advance,

Daniel = Hooymans

Sofware=20 developer www.edufocus.nl

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A510.D5C54A60-- From gilles@pilotsystems.net Mon Dec 16 14:58:57 2002 From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:58:57 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Translate the day and Month in Dutch References: Message-ID: <526201c2a513$a95002f0$0701a8c0@provence> ---- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Koekenberg" To: Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: [Zope] Translate the day and Month in Dutch > hello, > > I've an agenda with event in dutch, mij server uses English day & month > names. Is there a function or something like that to translate them into > dutch. Friday -> Vrijdag and January -> januari. > > Who can help me ?? > > Martin Koekenberg > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > Hi, I made this small TTW script to get the date in a French manner. You just need to translate the lists "jours" and "mois" respectively with the list of day names (starting from sunday) and month names (starting with an empty string, then january,..., december). The "dto" parameter is expected to be a Zope DateTime object. Hope this helps. --Gilles ## Script (Python) "datefr" ##bind container=container ##bind context=context ##bind namespace= ##bind script=script ##bind subpath=traverse_subpath ##parameters=dto ##title=Date en français ## # # Paramètre : # dto : objet de type DateTime # jours = ['Dimanche', 'Lundi', 'Mardi', 'Mercredi', 'Jeudi', 'Vendredi', 'Samedi'] mois = ['', 'janvier', 'février', 'mars', 'avril', 'mai', 'juin', 'juillet', 'août', 'septembre', 'octobre', 'novembre', 'décembre'] fdate = jours[dto.dow()] + ', ' jj = dto.day() if jj == 1: jj = '1er' return fdate + str(jj) + ' ' + mois[dto.month()] + ' ' + str(dto.year()) From pw_lists@slinkp.com Mon Dec 16 15:03:35 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:03:35 -0800 Subject: [Zope] global variables in externa Methods In-Reply-To: <000201c2a4ec$82a231e0$fe78a8c0@PCA> References: <000201c2a4ec$82a231e0$fe78a8c0@PCA> Message-ID: <20021216150335.GA14854@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:58:02AM +0100, Elena Schulz wrote: > wow Paul, > > that's just what I was looking for. The **syntax is not bound to 'args', it > could be also **myargsname I guess, isn't it? The variable names are arbitrary... use what you like. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From pw_lists@slinkp.com Mon Dec 16 15:06:52 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Zope] CMF Article and DC Workflow Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021216150652.GB14854@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:49:20AM +0800, John Paul wrote: > > > Hi > > I just set up a CMF portal with a couple of custom types and noticed that > CMF Article in private and pending status are > viewable if the Reviewer knows the URL for them unlike other content types > like News Item and Document which notifies the reviewer when a certain news > items or document are in pending mode. I think you'll find that CMFArticle is quite buggy overall. I submitted several fixes to the tracker, but don't know if they've made it into CVS yet... anyway, I hadn't noticed that issue. no idea, sorry. --PW -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From c.nitu@finsiel.ro Mon Dec 16 14:59:08 2002 From: c.nitu@finsiel.ro (Cornel Nitu) Date: 16 Dec 2002 16:59:08 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Track modifications Message-ID: <1040050747.751.8.camel@corneln.finronet.ro> Hi, I want to track modifications of all objects from my site, but I don't know how to do it. My question is: What method set the _p_time when an object was modified, if there is one? Cornel From gilles@pilotsystems.net Mon Dec 16 15:40:12 2002 From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:40:12 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Track modifications References: <1040050747.751.8.camel@corneln.finronet.ro> Message-ID: <52cf01c2a519$6c63a3f0$0701a8c0@provence> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cornel Nitu" To: Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 3:59 PM Subject: [Zope] Track modifications > Hi, > > I want to track modifications of all objects from my site, but I don't > know how to do it. The ZCVSfolder will help you for this... http://www.zope.org/Members/sspickle/ZCVSMixin > My question is: What method set the _p_time when an object was modified, > if there is one? > > Cornel From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 16 15:34:36 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:34:36 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Permissions question Message-ID: I am searching a catalog based on the following criteria: I have the following folder structure: Root Folder | - Folder 1 | - Folder 2 | - Folder 2.1 | - Folder 2.2 | - Folder 3 | - Catalog I have images in each of the subfolders of the root folder. There is an acl_users folder in root as well as in Folder 2.1. The Catalog contains references to each of the image objects in each folder. If I log in as a user that has access to the Root Folder, all is well. However, when I log in as a user that is listed in the acl_users folder contained in Folder 2.1, catalog searches are getting fouled up. When I search the catalog on a text index and check each object to see if the AUTHENTICATED_USER has the 'View' permission, I am getting several results in the result set that shouldn't appear. Only the images that match the search AND appear in Folder 2.1 should be returned for all the users listed in Folder 2.1's acl_users but I am getting back images in other folders as well. My permissions are set up to allow 'View' access only to 'Authenticated' users. I am searching the catalog with the following python script: -------------------- request = container.REQUEST RESPONSE = request.RESPONSE keywordFields = ('title', 'desc') docList = {} if keyword != None and keyword.strip() != "": for field in keywordFields : for item in context.photoCatalog({field : keyword}) : if request['AUTHENTICATED_USER'].has_permission('View', item) : docList[item.id] = item #convert to list docList = docList.values() return docList ---------------------- The line that calls has_permission is returning 1 for pictures outside of the folder in which the user is defined. However, when I render the results page from the docList variable, the images are correctly shown as inaccessible to this user and the login dialog box is displayed. What I'm trying to do is avoid this login by confining result items to those that are viewable by the currently logged in user. Anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening? Kevin From thierry.florac@onf.fr Mon Dec 16 15:47:05 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 16 Dec 2002 16:47:05 +0100 Subject: [Zope] BTreeFolder inheritance problem In-Reply-To: <1040044277.9100.22.camel@m22241> References: <1040044277.9100.22.camel@m22241> Message-ID: <1040053626.8915.27.camel@m22241> On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 14:11, Thierry Florac wrote: > I've created a new product (for Zope-2.6), which inherit from > BTreeFolder as well as another custom product (not a container) of my > own. > When I try to add a new item in my folder, I receive an error message. > For example, > > class MyBTreeFolder (BTreeFolder): > def __init__ (self, id, title=None, REQUEST=None): > "" > self.id = id > self.title = title > folder = Folder (id='archives') > set._setObject (folder.id, folder) > ... > > At runtime, I receive the following error : > > Traceback (innermost last): > > * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish > * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply > * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object > * Module Products.Intraforet.MyBTreeFolder, line 428, in > manage_addMyBTreeFolder > * Module Products.Intraforet.MyBTreeFolder, line 138, in __init__ > * Module OFS.ObjectManager, line 256, in _setObject > * Module Products.BTreeFolder.BTreeFolder, line 187, in _setOb > > TypeError: object does not support item assignment > Well... after a few additional tests, I finally managed to make my product work correctly... In fact, I just forgot to put 'SimpleItem' as the last inherited class on my product, and I also forgot to call "BTreeFolder.__init__" in my own constructor... Thierry From thierry.florac@onf.fr Mon Dec 16 15:50:05 2002 From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac) Date: 16 Dec 2002 16:50:05 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Translate the day and Month in Dutch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1040053806.8915.31.camel@m22241> On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 14:09, Martin Koekenberg wrote: > hello, > > I've an agenda with event in dutch, mij server uses English day & month > names. Is there a function or something like that to translate them into > dutch. Friday -> Vrijdag and January -> januari. > > Who can help me ?? Do you use dutch language only in your site ?? If so, just set the "LOCALE_ID" parameter in your z2.py to your own locale, and then everything will be OK for you (I use it like this on a french intranet site, with LOCALE_ID="fr_FR", without any problem...) Thierry From Bryan@capitanoweb.com Mon Dec 16 15:55:03 2002 From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:55:03 -0800 Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have not tried the MSWordDocument product before. That's interesting, thanks for sharing it. I am familiar with a commercial product from Logictran called 'R2NET'. With this software you can easily convert Word (RTF) files to HTML or XHTML or XML. I use the product extensively at the Linux command line. It is easy to use, very powerful and robust. It gives you lots of control over how documents are converted through a translation file which you can customize if you want more custom output. I think it would be easy to plug into Zope. Bryan > Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument > > > Hello Zopistas, > > I've been wrestling with Eric Barroca's MSWordDocument product > for days now, > trying to get the HTML version of a Word file to output on my > DTML document. > > I've tried: > > > > > but it seem to only print "MSWordDocument instance at... ". > > I also went to the product's source and saw a method that looks > like what I > needed, getDocHTML. So I tried: > > > > > but now it's giving me an "AttributeError". > > I'm relatively new to Zope and Python so I would really > appreciate it if any > of you more experienced Zope people could care to help. > > > -- > Angelo Abarentos, a Zope newbie > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From pw_lists@slinkp.com Mon Dec 16 16:17:38 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:17:38 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021216161738.GC14854@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:38:44PM +0100, Dani?l Hooymans wrote: > 1. Object Orientation > > In which ways is the language object oriented en which things are missing from the language. python is fully object-oriented... i'll leave the details to the language lawyers. We don't really have interfaces currently. > 2. Server and client objects. > > To what extend is it possible to define and use client side objects aside from server components. e.g. Possibility to include/use special tags which automagically instantiate the correct custom control objects. there's no automagic for this in zope that I know of. > 3. Framework > > How diverse is the default library of Objects and methods. (Guess this is more a python thing besides the use of products) well, you can't discount the huge number of Products available... aside from that, the python standard library is excellent, after 3-4 years I'm still finding new stuff there. if that's not enough, there's all the nice powerful 3rd-party libs like mxDateTime, PIL, NumPy, and Reportlab, all the other stuff at the Vaults of Parnassus, and nice resources like the ASPN cookbook. > 4. Support > > How / howfar is the development platform used by developers. > Is there a good knowledge base / FAQ's available. > Are there good / many newsgroups available... ( Hmmmm, depend on response to this message ;-) ) this list is excellent, #zope on irc is good, there are also lists for more specific sub-communities (plone, tal, etc.) > 5. 3th party support > > Are there extentional development tools available. "extentional"? hmm. well there are tools to help zope work with other tools - e.g. ExternalEditor, and various hacks for dealing with CVS. > What kind of engines are available. ( python / zope ) engines? > Are extra components available. If so, which. ( yeah yeah, Zope product database is one) some big ones: CMF, Plone, Nuxeo CPS ... too many others to mention. > 6. Cost > > What do the essential development tools cost. > What are the costs to commercially use the development platform. NOTHING! > 7. Userfriendly > > How good is the development platform. > Are all tools needed available. > Is the platform intuitive to use. the famous zope learning curve is an issue ... it's quite easy to get through the tutorial and start putting things together. It can take months or years to grok the advanced stuff. Then you can do anything. :) Partly it's a documentation problem. > 8. Distribution > > What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to answer.. zope ??) yes, but zserver is not generally considered robust enough for deploying "bare" on the internet. It is normal to put it behind something - apache, squid... > 9. XML Support > > Which tools are available. plenty of stuff in the python standard lib. also zope supports xmlrpc. > 10. Developer value > > What is the value of a developer having good knowledge of the platform on the jobmarket. well, there don't seem to be so many zope jobs around... but there are correspondingly fewer zope developers to fill them. It can be hard to find the right opportunity. But e.g. at my current job I was hired solely because of my zope experience. > [11]. What are other pros/cons using Zope / Python as development platform. > ================================== integration with filesystem devel. tools (revision control etc.) is still problematic. scalability of zope is very cool. With ZEO and the various cacheing strategies, you can serve a LOT of requests and keep building up with very little work. -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 16 16:11:33 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:11:33 +0100 Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216165419.020b9ce0@prue.torped.se> At 07:55 2002-12-16 -0800, Bryan Capitano said: >I have not tried the MSWordDocument product before. That's interesting, >thanks for sharing it. >I am familiar with a commercial product from Logictran called 'R2NET'. With >this software you can easily convert Word (RTF) files to HTML or XHTML or >XML. I use the product extensively at the Linux command line. It is easy to >use, very powerful and robust. It gives you lots of control over how >documents are converted through a translation file which you can customize >if you want more custom output. I think it would be easy to plug into= Zope. >Bryan How does Logictran's R2NET compare to vwWare (which is use by=20 MSWordDocuments on Unix)? It seems like they are quite similar. Regards, Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 16 16:26:51 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 16 Dec 2002 11:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Zope] realtime Bug Day report Message-ID: <1040056011.1415.23.camel@james> So far the good folks participating in the bug day on irc.openprojects.net #zope-dev have resolved 13 issues in the collector. Present in the channel are 9 people. Feel free to join in. Thanks, - C From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 16 16:22:02 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:22:02 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216172141.020acea0@prue.torped.se> To: Paul Winkler Subject: Re: [Zope] Considerations using Zope At 08:17 2002-12-16 -0800, Paul Winkler said: > 8. Distribution > > What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to=20 answer.. zope ??) yes, but zserver is not generally considered robust enough for deploying "bare" on the internet. It is normal to put it behind something - apache, squid... I what way is ZServer not generally considered robust enough? Johan Carsslon --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From mjarrar@vub.ac.be Mon Dec 16 16:27:55 2002 From: mjarrar@vub.ac.be (Mustafa Jarrar) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:27:55 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Exporting files form Zope into C: ? how In-Reply-To: <20021216161738.GC14854@slinkp.com> Message-ID: Dear all, I have many files uploaded into Zope, How to export them into C:\ Not file by file, but the group together. Thanks, M. Jarrar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 From zope@zope.org Mon Dec 16 16:34:46 2002 From: zope@zope.org (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:34:46 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216171535.020a5680@prue.torped.se> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216171535.020a5680@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <20021216163446.GD14854@slinkp.com> let's keep it on the list please... On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:21:29PM +0100, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote: > At 08:17 2002-12-16 -0800, Paul Winkler said: > >> 8. Distribution > >> > >> What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to > >answer.. zope ??) > > > >yes, but zserver is not generally considered robust enough for > >deploying "bare" on the internet. It is normal to put it behind something - > >apache, squid... > > I what way is ZServer not generally considered robust enough? Vulnerable to DOS attacks. http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-coders/2002-March/000893.html -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From scott.meilicke@intp.com Mon Dec 16 16:37:29 2002 From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:37:29 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Exporting files form Zope into C: ? how Message-ID: You can use FTP, by default on port 8021. Internet Explorer will work, and you can then drag and drop from there. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Mustafa Jarrar [mailto:mjarrar@vub.ac.be] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:28 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Exporting files form Zope into C: ? how Dear all, I have many files uploaded into Zope, How to export them into C:\ Not file by file, but the group together. Thanks, M. Jarrar --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. From johanc@easypublisher.com Mon Dec 16 16:41:41 2002 From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:41:41 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: <20021216163446.GD14854@slinkp.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216171535.020a5680@prue.torped.se> <5.1.1.6.0.20021216171535.020a5680@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216173922.02135a40@prue.torped.se> At 08:34 2002-12-16 -0800, Paul Winkler said: >let's keep it on the list please... > >On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:21:29PM +0100, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]=20 >wrote: > > At 08:17 2002-12-16 -0800, Paul Winkler said: > > >> 8. Distribution > > >> > > >> What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to > > >answer.. zope ??) > > > > > >yes, but zserver is not generally considered robust enough for > > >deploying "bare" on the internet. It is normal to put it behind=20 > something - > > >apache, squid... > > > > I what way is ZServer not generally considered robust enough? > >Vulnerable to DOS attacks. >http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-coders/2002-March/000893.html Interesting. Are there any plans to solve this in a near future. Not using is a front-end is indeed less messy to setup (also without=20 ssl-support). Regards, Johan Carlsson --=20 Torped Strategi och Kommunikation AB Johan Carlsson johanc@easypublisher.com Mail: Birkagatan 9 SE-113 36 Stockholm Sweden Visit: V=E4stmannagatan 67, Stockholm, Sweden Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23 Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83 Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24 http://www.easypublisher.com http://www.torped.se From list_subscriber@neurobs.com Mon Dec 16 16:59:19 2002 From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:59:19 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Exporting files form Zope into C: ? how References: Message-ID: <3DFE0667.4030407@neurobs.com> Use wget or FTP. When you use them, the clients see the list of files/objects ( dtml, sql, pt, py and other source files only ) as normal text files which you can then download to your local system. you cannot download things like a db connection object or a ram cache manager even though you will be able to see them in the list of files. for FTP use any windows FTP client wget for windows - http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/wgetwin.html hth AM Mustafa Jarrar wrote: >Dear all, > >I have many files uploaded into Zope, >How to export them into C:\ >Not file by file, but the group together. > >Thanks, > >M. Jarrar >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >(Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > -- ================================================================== Aseem Mohanty Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231 ================================================================== "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and stopped right there!!" -- Steve Gonedes ================================================================== From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com Mon Dec 16 17:11:56 2002 From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:11:56 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216173922.02135a40@prue.torped.se> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216171535.020a5680@prue.torped.se> <5.1.1.6.0.20021216173922.02135a40@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: <200212161711.56864.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> On Monday 16 December 2002 4:41 pm, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote: > Interesting. Are there any plans to solve this in a near future. > Not using is a front-end is indeed less messy to setup (also without > ssl-support). no. its a matter of chosing the right tool for the job.... A front-end pr= oxy=20 is a poweful tool that fulfills many jobs (more than just DOS-protection)= =20 that would not be worth the effort to reproduce in zope. From Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?= Mon Dec 16 17:36:32 2002 From: Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?= (Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:36:32 +0100 Subject: [Zope] getattr and acquisition Message-ID: <20021216173632.GA1419@logilab.fr> hi, what's the way to know if an object has an attribute without acquisition? When I call getattr on a given object which has a parent with the desired attribute, it returns the parent attribute. Isn't there a way to give an additional argument to getattr which tell to use the acquisition mecanism ? -- Sylvain Thénault LOGILAB http://www.logilab.org From pw_lists@slinkp.com Mon Dec 16 17:44:53 2002 From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:44:53 -0800 Subject: [Zope] getattr and acquisition In-Reply-To: <20021216173632.GA1419@logilab.fr> References: <20021216173632.GA1419@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <20021216174453.GF14854@slinkp.com> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:36:32PM +0100, Sylvain Th?nault wrote: > hi, > > what's the way to know if an object has an attribute without acquisition? You can unwrap the object from its acquisition wrappers: getattr(foo.aq_base, "attribute") -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!" From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 16 17:45:37 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 16 Dec 2002 12:45:37 -0500 Subject: [Zope] more bug day status Message-ID: <1040060737.1414.28.camel@james> 26 issues closed. Only 222 more to go. ;-) Notable bugs fixed: - multiple selection unicode bug (#697) - make sure passwords aren't encrypted twice ;-) (#256) - don't fail in History tab if Historical object is stored in a non-history-supporting storage (#700) 10 people currently in the #zope-dev channel on irc.openprojects.net. - C From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us Mon Dec 16 17:39:04 2002 From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:39:04 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: <200212161711.56864.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216171535.020a5680@prue.torped.se> <5.1.1.6.0.20021216173922.02135a40@prue.torped.se> <200212161711.56864.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> Message-ID: <200212161239.04771.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> While I would disagree that more "integrated" support for SSL in the Zope= core=20 isn't worth the effort, I strongly encourage you to take a look at Pound=20 (http://www.apsis.ch/pound/), which was designed to work in front of Zope= as=20 a Proxy/SSL wrapper. It is a high-quality piece of software and will hand= le=20 what you need. Cheers, Eron On Monday 16 December 2002 12:11 pm, Toby Dickenson wrote: > On Monday 16 December 2002 4:41 pm, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrot= e: > > Interesting. Are there any plans to solve this in a near future. > > Not using is a front-end is indeed less messy to setup (also without > > ssl-support). > > no. its a matter of chosing the right tool for the job.... A front-end > proxy is a poweful tool that fulfills many jobs (more than just > DOS-protection) that would not be worth the effort to reproduce in zope= =2E > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --=20 Eron Lloyd Technology Coordinator Lancaster County Library elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us Phone: 717-239-2116 Fax: 717-394-3083 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From gilles@pilotsystems.net Mon Dec 16 17:50:18 2002 From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:50:18 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Getting a Mysqldb.Connection objetct form ZMySAQLDA References: <525a01c2a511$410ccc20$0701a8c0@provence> <3DFDF921.6050504@members.netsolution-net.de> Message-ID: <54a201c2a52b$98c43f10$0701a8c0@provence> Martin, Yes, it would be very useful to get a DB API compliant Connection object from a Zope DA. There are so many "goodies" for Python I can get from a MySQLdb.Connection object that are not available from a ZMySQLDA. The SQL query is built dynamically in a method of a Python product. I really need this to get from the cursor object some data I *cannot* get from ZSQL method (like the last autoincrement insert row). It's very shorter to write... cursor = dbconnect.cursor() cursor.execute("update mytable...", (data, data...)) Using the method you suggest is overkill. (why make it simple when you can have it complicated :-) Okay, I'm gonna parse the ZMySQLDA connection string to get my own DB API Connection object. Cheers --Gilles PS : please CC your replies to zope@zope.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Gebert" To: "Gilles Lenfant" Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Getting a Mysqldb.Connection objetct form ZMySAQLDA > AFAIK ZMySQLDA uses the underlying _mysql class directly, not the Python > DB API compliant MySQLdb class (any votes against that?). > What's the problem with your query string? Why can't you use Z SQL > Methods? You know you can build the SQL statements with DTML constructs? > > Martin > > Gilles Lenfant schrieb: > > >Hi, > > > >Is it possible to get a MySQLdb.Connection object from a ZMySQLDA object ? > >I need this because my Python product builds the query string dynamically > >and a ZSQL Method is not suitable for this. > >Or should I parse the connection string and build my own Connection object ? > > > >Thanks in advance for your help > > > >--Gilles > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > >http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > >(Related lists - > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > > > > > > > > > From Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?= Mon Dec 16 17:55:33 2002 From: Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?= (Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:55:33 +0100 Subject: [Zope] getattr and acquisition In-Reply-To: <20021216174453.GF14854@slinkp.com> References: <20021216173632.GA1419@logilab.fr> <20021216174453.GF14854@slinkp.com> Message-ID: <20021216175533.GA1489@logilab.fr> On Monday 16 December à 09:44, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:36:32PM +0100, Sylvain Th?nault wrote: > > hi, > > > > what's the way to know if an object has an attribute without acquisition? > > You can unwrap the object from its acquisition wrappers: > > getattr(foo.aq_base, "attribute") and should it be accessible from a restricted python script (or whatever else like ZPT, DTML...) ? I've just tried and I got an "Attribute Error" -- Sylvain Thénault LOGILAB http://www.logilab.org From khcarlso@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 16 18:01:21 2002 From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:01:21 -0500 Subject: [Zope] getattr and acquisition In-Reply-To: <20021216175533.GA1489@logilab.fr> Message-ID: I use: getattr(foo.aq_explicit, "attribute") Kevin -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Sylvain Thénault Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:56 PM To: Paul Winkler; Zope Mailing list Subject: Re: [Zope] getattr and acquisition On Monday 16 December à 09:44, Paul Winkler wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:36:32PM +0100, Sylvain Th?nault wrote: > > hi, > > > > what's the way to know if an object has an attribute without acquisition? > > You can unwrap the object from its acquisition wrappers: > > getattr(foo.aq_base, "attribute") and should it be accessible from a restricted python script (or whatever else like ZPT, DTML...) ? I've just tried and I got an "Attribute Error" -- Sylvain Thénault LOGILAB http://www.logilab.org _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr Mon Dec 16 18:12:03 2002 From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:12:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Plone and Zope: space character in URI..... Solution... References: <003501c2a504$36240e20$0100a8c0@AHAH> Message-ID: <005601c2a52e$a3476900$0100a8c0@AHAH> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C2A537.04B1A310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Solved thanks to geoff@geoffdavis.net and george@zettai.net!! under some circumstances not yet clear, Iexplore 6.0 and Windows XP = 6.02 the blank between " and http in Join is working... but if I try to import the URL http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/ in = HTml toolkit, it is turn not to answered... at the contrary=20 http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/index_html will work and would also = also http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/ here the comment of Tidy for Zope CMF portal index_html "URIs must be properly escaped, they must not contain unescaped = characters below U+0021 including the space character and not above = U+007E.=20 Tidy escapes the URI for you as recommended by HTML 4.01 section B.2.1 = and XML 1.0 section 4.2.2. Some user agents use another algorithm to escape such URIs and some = server-sided scripts depend on that. If you want to depend on that, you = must escape the URI by your own. For more information please refer to = http://www.w3.org/International/O-URL-and-ident.html" ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C2A537.04B1A310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Solved thanks to geoff@geoffdavis.net = and george@zettai.net!!

under some circumstances not yet clear, Iexplore 6.0 and = Windows XP=20 6.02

the blank between " and http in <a href=3D" http://votredomaine.net = produced in the=20 rendering of the index_html of the root of a plone site can = make it=20 inacccessible...

This blank make the URI malformed as they=20 are not properly escaped, (they must not contain unescaped = characters=20 below U+0021 including the space character and not above = U+007E.)

The offending blank is after "string:" in the fields of the = Actions=20 tabs of portal_actions, _syndication, _properties , or _undo ... ; = just=20 remove them using Mozilla if you have the same problem than me with = Iexplore.=20

(the correctiosn made It can be necessary to reboot in order that = Iexplore=20 can work properly)

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 danielle.d-avout =

To: Zope

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 = 2:08=20 PM

Subject: [Zope] Plone and Zope: = space=20 character in URI.....

With a brand new plone I asked, as I'm not logged

http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit

I keep waiting ... the window of = Iexplore 6.0=20 doesn't respond anymore

I notice that the title of the=20 requested page is

http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/login_form?came_from=3Dhttp= :3A//danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit&retry=3D

if I asked in an another window =

http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/login_form?came_from=3Dhttp= ://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/index_html/manage_edit&retry<= /A>=3D

it does work.... as it should be.. = I'm asked to=20 sign in ...

meanwhile I have no such problems = with=20 Mozilla

I looked at the source and I can see=20 "irregularities"

<a href=3D" http://... with = a space=20 between " and http

OK I am anyway ready to give up = Plone... I=20 encountered too many problems already

But just to be reassured... I looked = at the=20 rendered html given by a new Zope CMF portal = (noname)

and I can see as well, only in a = smaller number=20 (1 for the index_html), the same fault.....

first it doesn't seem to have any=20 consequences..

the link = <a href=3D"=20 Joinhttp://danielle.zettai.net/noname/join_form">Join</a> is working...

but if I try to import the URL = http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/ in HTml toolkit, it is turn not to = answered...

at the contrary

http://danielle.zettai.net/noname/index_html will work and would also also http://danielle.zettai.net/New_plone/

here the comment of Tidy for = Zope CMF=20 portal index_html

"URIs must be properly escaped, they = must not=20 contain unescaped characters below U+0021 including the space = character and=20 not above U+007E.

Tidy escapes the URI for you as = recommended by=20 HTML 4.01 section B.2.1 and XML 1.0 section 4.2.2.

Some user agents use another = algorithm to escape=20 such URIs and some server-sided scripts depend on that. If you want to = depend=20 on that, you must escape the URI by your own. For more information = please=20 refer to http://www.w3.org/International/O-URL-and-ident.html<= FONT=20 face=3DArial size=3D2>"

<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C2A537.04B1A310-- From Murphy@members.netsolution-net.de Mon Dec 16 18:16:18 2002 From: Murphy@members.netsolution-net.de (Martin Gebert) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:16:18 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Getting a Mysqldb.Connection objetct form ZMySAQLDA In-Reply-To: <54a201c2a52b$98c43f10$0701a8c0@provence> References: <525a01c2a511$410ccc20$0701a8c0@provence> <3DFDF921.6050504@members.netsolution-net.de> <54a201c2a52b$98c43f10$0701a8c0@provence> Message-ID: <3DFE1872.4010201@members.netsolution-net.de> Gilles Lenfant schrieb: >Martin, > >Yes, it would be very useful to get a DB API compliant Connection object >from a Zope DA. There are so many "goodies" for Python I can get from a >MySQLdb.Connection object that are not available from a ZMySQLDA. > OK, what about using an External Method importing MySQLdb then? >The SQL query is built dynamically in a method of a Python product. I really >need this to get from the cursor object some data I *cannot* get from ZSQL >method (like the last autoincrement insert row). > select last_insert_id() as ID works for me. >It's very shorter to write... >cursor = dbconnect.cursor() >cursor.execute("update mytable...", (data, data...)) > ??? Short? OK, call me a newbie, but I've come across no update statement so far which I couldn't comfortably code in a Z SQL method. Maybe you could explain in more detail what magic you're up to? >Using the method you suggest is overkill. (why make it simple when you can >have it complicated :-) > Hm, I'd see it the other way round (Cursor coding in Python more complicated than using Z SQL/DA), but if you think so... >Okay, I'm gonna parse the ZMySQLDA connection string to get my own DB API >Connection object. > > You can get the Connection String from the connection_string attribute of your ZMySQL instance. >Cheers > >--Gilles > >PS : please CC your replies to zope@zope.org > Sorry, I forgot. I'm pampered from the german DZUG list which sets a "Reply to" automatically on every mailing... *big hint for the list admins* ;-) Martin From Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?= Mon Dec 16 18:26:28 2002 From: Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?= (Sylvain =?iso-8859-1?Q?Th=E9nault?=) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:26:28 +0100 Subject: [Zope] getattr and acquisition In-Reply-To: References: <20021216175533.GA1489@logilab.fr> Message-ID: <20021216182628.GA1558@logilab.fr> On Monday 16 December à 13:01, Kevin Carlson wrote: > I use: > > getattr(foo.aq_explicit, "attribute") it works fine in a restricted script. Thanks to you and Paul ! -- Sylvain Thénault LOGILAB http://www.logilab.org From Bryan@capitanoweb.com Mon Dec 16 18:16:18 2002 From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:16:18 -0800 Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216165419.020b9ce0@prue.torped.se> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Johan > Carlsson [EasyPublisher] > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:12 AM > To: Bryan Capitano > Cc: zope@zope.org > Subject: RE: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET > > > At 07:55 2002-12-16 -0800, Bryan Capitano said: > > >I have not tried the MSWordDocument product before. That's interesting, > >thanks for sharing it. > >I am familiar with a commercial product from Logictran called > 'R2NET'. With > >this software you can easily convert Word (RTF) files to HTML or XHTML or > >XML. I use the product extensively at the Linux command line. It > is easy to > >use, very powerful and robust. It gives you lots of control over how > >documents are converted through a translation file which you can > customize > >if you want more custom output. I think it would be easy to > plug into Zope. > >Bryan > > How does Logictran's R2NET compare to vwWare (which is use by > MSWordDocuments on Unix)? > It seems like they are quite similar. > > Regards, > Johan Carlsson > Johan, I had evaluated wvWare a couple months ago for a web-to-print project (sharing documents between a website and a printed book publication). wvWare wasn't nearly as feature-rich or robust as R2NET. For example: 1. I was not able to use wvWare to convert DOC/RTF into XML using my own DTD. (I can with R2NET). 2. wvWare did not recognize some of the more complex RTF control codes for font "styles", tables, or anything much more complicated than plain text. It does recognize fonts, font sizes, and italics/bold/etc. But in Word you can define actual styles that you can re-use or apply to sections of a document. wvWare doesn't capture style information. 3. In the publishing world, documents often have hidden codes embedded in the document. In particular, I was concerned about RTF codes \xe, \txe, and \tc. In the document these look like: {xe "this looks like an index code."} or see-also entries like this: {xe "trees" \t "See also Shrubs"}. You might also want to use some hidden table-of-contents codes embedded in your document like this: {tc "Chapter 1, Trees and Shrubs" \l 1}. R2NET will extract this information from RTF documents and put them in your XML if you tell it HOW by using the translation files. wvWare can't do this, at least not to my knowledge. For these reasons, I think wvWare is a good "basic" converter. It's a good first step, and useful for basic doc-->html needs. But if you need more power and extensibility, and if you want to dump Word documents into your own pre-defined XML DTD, then R2NET is worth the $69 dollars. You could also write your own Perl RTF parser by making use of RTF::Tokenizer. I have done this too. It is a more difficult road, but gives you absolute flexibility. There may be a similar RTF tokenizer for Python??? Best regards, Bryan Bryan R. Capitano President, CAPITANO WEb CONSULTING Tel: 541-344-0747 Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com URL: http://www.capitanoweb.com From pollej@uleth.ca Mon Dec 16 18:45:26 2002 From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:45:26 -0700 Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV Message-ID: <3DFE1F46.902ED969@uleth.ca> Can anyone bring me up to speed on why my ZClasses cannot be manipulated via FTP/WebDAV, and what I need to do to make them so they can? I was pleased to note that built in Zope objects perform admirably during FTP/WebDAV manipulation : I'd feared that changed files would revert to 'File' objects. (Irrational, I know). However, my lovely ZClass, that I've put so much time and energy into, does not work. In FTP - I just get an error when I try to replace it. (Downloading is fine) In WebDAV - it sees my ZClass as a Folder. Downloads it as a Folder. Wierd. I'll be happy as can be to get one of theses methods working. This is imperative as we use Dreamweaver as our site manager/editor. Now, I've found this: http://www.zope.org/Members/akendall/zclassftp Seems relevant, but old as can be. I'm going to compare the files it alters with the ones that come with Zope 2.6, and hopefully I can distill some wisdom as to what needs changing. But if anyone can shed some light to help guide my way, I'd appreciate it. Ed From curtis.seyfried@verizon.net Mon Dec 16 18:54:43 2002 From: curtis.seyfried@verizon.net (Curtis Seyfried) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:54:43 -0500 Subject: [Zope] (no subject) Message-ID: Message: 25 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:46:14 +0800 From: "Jose Angelo P. Abarentos" To: Zope Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument Hello Zopistas, I've been wrestling with Eric Barroca's MSWordDocument product for days now, trying to get the HTML version of a Word file to output on my DTML document. I've tried: but it seem to only print "MSWordDocument instance at... ". I also went to the product's source and saw a method that looks like what I needed, getDocHTML. So I tried: but now it's giving me an "AttributeError". I'm relatively new to Zope and Python so I would really appreciate it if any of you more experienced Zope people could care to help. -- Angelo Abarentos, a Zope newbie -------------------------------- Angelo, I have also had problems with MSWordDocument, I get error messages saying that there is a missing file. I've done searches for the file with no sucess, so I gave up and looked specifically for something to do a MSWord2HTML, this is one I found. http://www.wvware.com/ I havn't tried it yet, and I will look to see what the error message was for MSWordDocument. Curtis Seyfried From lennart@torped.se Mon Dec 16 19:17:35 2002 From: lennart@torped.se (Lennart Regebro) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:17:35 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope References: Message-ID: <006901c2a537$d3514c20$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Daniël Hooymans" >1. Object Orientation >In which ways is the language object oriented en >which things are missing from the language. Not only is Python a fully object oriented language, but since Zope uses the object oriented database ZODB you have full object orientation. No need to translate between a relational database structure and the object-oriented language. This is one of the main benefits of Zope, and a big contributing factor to the rapid development possible with Zope. > 2. Server and client objects. > > To what extend is it possible to define and use client side > objects aside from server components. e.g. Possibility to > include/use special tags which automagically instantiate the > correct custom control objects. You can use any tags you want. And you can use any client side objects/controls you want. But you can't *write* any client side objects in Zope, becasue Zope is a *server*. So I guess I don't really understand this question. > 3. Framework > > How diverse is the default library of Objects and methods. > (Guess this is more a python thing besides the use of products) It's *extremely* diverse. There are few things I have needed that doesn't already exist. > 4. Support > How / howfar is the development platform used by developers. I don't understand what "far" means in this context. > Is there a good knowledge base / FAQ's available. There is a good knowledge base availiable: the people using Zope. :-) zope@zope.org is the central of this. The documentation is not that great. > Are there good / many newsgroups available... ( Hmmmm, depend > on response to this message ;-) ) zope@zope.org is a mailing.list, not a newsgroup. ;-) > 5. 3th party support > Are there extentional development tools available. Yes. > What kind of engines are available. ( python / zope ) Engines? I don't understand this question. > Are extra components available. If so, which. Tons. 669 is the current count. :-) http://www.zope.org/Products/all_products > ( yeah yeah, Zope product database is one) No, that is not an extra component. It's needed. > 6. Cost > What do the essential development tools cost. $0 > What are the costs to commercially use the development platform. $0 > 7. Userfriendly > How good is the development platform. It's very easy to get started with, but there is a lot of things to know, and the more you want to do, the more you need to know. So it's a never ending quest for more knowledge, and you will never feel that you are fully learned. The Zope 3 project is trying to make that situation a bit better, so that you won't need to know so much of the internals of Zope to do the really advanced stuff. >Are all tools needed available. Yes. > Is the platform intuitive to use. Sometimes it's very intuitive, sometimes not. > 8. Distribution > What is needed to host a website using the platform. > (no need to answer.. zope ??) Right. > 9. XML Support > Which tools are available. This is a question posed by somebody who doesn't really know what he wants to know, I think. :-) > 10. Developer value > What is the value of a developer having good knowledge > of the platform on the jobmarket. That depends a lot on the country you are in. Zope is big in Germany and France for example, but not in Sweden. There also seems to be quite a lot of Zope jobs in the US. I have no feeling for how the situation is in the Netherlands. > [11]. What are other pros/cons using Zope / Python as development platform. The best part of it is the rapid development. It's quick to get started with doing your own products, and developing new features is quicker than any other development platform I've used. This is very much thanks to the clean and easy-read and extremely dynamic nature of Python. From sean.upton@uniontrib.com Mon Dec 16 19:22:05 2002 From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:22:05 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV Message-ID: There are a few methods that you can create and/or override to make your objects behave in FTP/DAV friendly ways, which will likely need to be customized to work correctly with your class. A good first question is what your ZClass is subclassing? If it is folderish, there are a few things that you can do to make it act more like a leaf-level object (i.e. SimpleItem-like). I've never done this in a ZClass, only in a python product, but you might need to define custom methods, like manage_FTPlist (override), manage_FTPstat, manage_FTPget, and PUT. The biggest thing is that you need to make manage_FTPlist return a tuple with one element containing the stat info for one object, which tricks the FTP machinery into thinking this should be represented as a file/leaf object, and not as a directory to the FTP client. This might work (likely as an external method?): import marshal def manage_FTPlist(self,REQUEST): stat = marshal.loads(self.manage_FTPstat(REQUEST)) return marshal.dumps((self.id, stat)) Once you get this working, it is likely you will need to figure out creating a custom PUT()... Good luck, Sean -----Original Message----- From: Edward Pollard [mailto:pollej@uleth.ca] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:45 AM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV Can anyone bring me up to speed on why my ZClasses cannot be manipulated via FTP/WebDAV, and what I need to do to make them so they can? I was pleased to note that built in Zope objects perform admirably during FTP/WebDAV manipulation : I'd feared that changed files would revert to 'File' objects. (Irrational, I know). However, my lovely ZClass, that I've put so much time and energy into, does not work. In FTP - I just get an error when I try to replace it. (Downloading is fine) In WebDAV - it sees my ZClass as a Folder. Downloads it as a Folder. Wierd. I'll be happy as can be to get one of theses methods working. This is imperative as we use Dreamweaver as our site manager/editor. Now, I've found this: http://www.zope.org/Members/akendall/zclassftp Seems relevant, but old as can be. I'm going to compare the files it alters with the ones that come with Zope 2.6, and hopefully I can distill some wisdom as to what needs changing. But if anyone can shed some light to help guide my way, I'd appreciate it. Ed _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From gill@library.ucsf.edu Mon Dec 16 19:35:16 2002 From: gill@library.ucsf.edu (Kamal Gill) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:35:16 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog indexing help request Message-ID: <80BA79A1-112D-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> I need to know how to control what objects are indexed by ZCatalog based on a custom property I have added to files and folders I do not want indexed by ZCatalog. I have added a boolean property named 'noindex' and have set its value as TRUE for files and folders I do not want indexed by ZCatalog. Now, what I need to know is what to enter in the expr: |________________________| textarea form field of the find objects tab of my ZCatalog object in order to index all page templates *except* those that contain a 'noindex' property set to TRUE. Any advice on how to implement (and possibly automate?) this is much appreciated. - Kamal From bzhang@hawaii.edu Mon Dec 16 19:42:42 2002 From: bzhang@hawaii.edu (Bin Zhang) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:42:42 -1000 Subject: [Zope] Add multiple photos Message-ID: <3DFE2CB2.9080402@hawaii.edu> Can someone tell me how to add multiple photos into a Photo Folder in Zope? Can you use FTP or WebDav to do this? I would like to upload a photo album from a CD and hope that I don't have to add them one by one by hand. Thanks for your help. Bin From scott.meilicke@intp.com Mon Dec 16 19:54:16 2002 From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:54:16 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Add multiple photos Message-ID: Yes, you can use FTP. Create the Photo Folder via the ZMI, the upload jpg files via FTP to the folder. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Bin Zhang [mailto:bzhang@hawaii.edu] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:43 AM To: Zope Subject: [Zope] Add multiple photos Can someone tell me how to add multiple photos into a Photo Folder in Zope? Can you use FTP or WebDav to do this? I would like to upload a photo album from a CD and hope that I don't have to add them one by one by hand. Thanks for your help. Bin _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) The information contained in this email message may be privileged and is confidential information intended only for the use of the recipient or any employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient. Any unauthorized use, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the original message and all attachments from your electronic files. From vattekkat.babu@verizon.net Mon Dec 16 20:30:06 2002 From: vattekkat.babu@verizon.net (Satheesh Babu) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:30:06 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DFE37CE.7040409@verizon.net> > 1. Object Orientation Zope is Object publishing environment. As far as I know, nothing takes object publishing as far as Zope does. The language to code in is Python, which is *nearly 100%* (or for all practical purposes) OO. > 2. Server and client objects. ZPT! The best there is. > 3. Framework This is where Zope really shines, IMO. It is a framework where you can change implementation of bits and pieces. Can't be better than this for making software that needs to last long. > 4. Support > 5. 3th party support Compared to Java, ASP or PHP, this is less. > 6. Cost $0 > 7. Userfriendly > How good is the development platform. > Are all tools needed available. > Is the platform intuitive to use. Here, Zope lacks IMO. Majority of "web developers" I've seen have little experience with software engineering. For such folks, Zope is a paradigm shift when compared to ASP/PHP/CF. If you've people with OO or RDBMS fundamentals. they'll love Zope. Pure HTML/CSS/Javascript crowd will probably hate Zope. Zope's object database is a really good technology, but as long as I can't gracefully store my code in CVS, I'm hesitant :-) Problem with web is that it is never possible to separate code from content 100%. There are some inititiatives to enable this, but the day when Zope stores its objects in pure FileSystem will be when I see heaven on earth :-) > 10. Developer value > What is the value of a developer having good knowledge of the platform > on the jobmarket. Probably little now. May be some day economy will be down enough so that companies don't want to invest thousands of dollars making unmaintainable and voluminous Java/ASP/PHP code - then, managers might be looking for skills that can provide solutions; not to just code using some syntax. But that day is not here yet and people still look for *hot* technologies like Java or .Net. What Zope excels is in providing an extensible framework (and more) that does 90% of all you need to do for web application development. If you can read the documents, mailing list and manuals (don't laugh, there is a sizable developer population out there that cribs about lack of documentation unless you print out the appropriate page, underline the things they need to see and put it on their lap), you can easily make/customize the remaining 10% with little time. S Babu http://vsbabu.org/ From tino@wildenhain.de Mon Dec 16 22:05:04 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:05:04 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: <3DFE37CE.7040409@verizon.net> References: <3DFE37CE.7040409@verizon.net> Message-ID: <16010732.1040079904@liza> Hi Sathleesh, ... *snip*... > > Zope's object database is a really good technology, but as long as I > can't gracefully store my code in CVS, I'm hesitant :-) Problem with web > is that it is never possible to separate code from content 100%. There > are some inititiatives to enable this, but the day when Zope stores its > objects in pure FileSystem will be when I see heaven on earth :-) while I agree with your opinions in the *snip*ed away part, I see many people complaing about the fact of zope using not plain files for objects. And any time I'm asking why zope should? Is there any RDBMS out there which stores its tuples in separate files? Anybody provided not using stone old DBMS used to work with a text editor on plain files to change data in tables? I think FileStorage and the many other options to store your objects (think about ZEO, BSDDBstorage, the storage adaptors for Oracle and stuff) are quite good when not even ideal. Its just like a filesystem - you might use a disk editor to change or save some data direcly on disk, but hardly anybody is doing this. The ZMI is by far not the ideal place to do havy coding. But luckyly we are not limited to this. The plain zope installation can be used via FTP and WebDAV. Some text editors support ftp, some DAV and any other can use ftpmount and friends. What could be handy, however, would be a cvs pserver implementation for ZServer to ease the use of standard programming workflow without resort to the ZMI all the time. (I have a rough start of this, handling connect and authorization so far. Unfortunately I have so little spare time to continue) Best regards Tino From bz@bwanazulia.com Mon Dec 16 21:59:35 2002 From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:59:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Zope] Add multiple photos In-Reply-To: <3DFE2CB2.9080402@hawaii.edu> References: <3DFE2CB2.9080402@hawaii.edu> Message-ID: <61192.199.67.138.20.1040075975.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net> There is a product called "PhotoExt" http://www.zope.org/Members/mngibso/PhotoExt BZ > Can someone tell me how to add multiple photos into a Photo Folder in > Zope? Can you use FTP or WebDav to do this? I would like to upload a > photo album from a CD and hope that I don't have to add them one by one > by hand. Thanks for your help. > > Bin > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Mon Dec 16 22:18:03 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:18:03 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request In-Reply-To: <80BA79A1-112D-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> References: <80BA79A1-112D-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: Kamal Gill wrote: > I need to know how to control what objects are indexed by ZCatalog based > on a custom property I have added to files and folders I do not want > indexed by ZCatalog. I have added a boolean property named 'noindex' > and have set its value as TRUE for files and folders I do not want > indexed by ZCatalog. > > Now, what I need to know is what to enter in the expr: > |________________________| textarea form field of the find objects tab > of my ZCatalog object in order to index all page templates *except* > those that contain a 'noindex' property set to TRUE. please try: not this().getProperty('noindex') -mj From mtran@shufflemasterrd.com Mon Dec 16 22:32:07 2002 From: mtran@shufflemasterrd.com (Mike Doanh Tran) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:32:07 -0700 Subject: [Zope] HOW TO COUNT VARIABLE WITH Message-ID: <20021216223146.21EC438A@postman> How do i count the value of a variable inside of I want to count not just the occurence of the variable but the value of that variable also. For Example i have a variable name "weight":

will give me a total number of occurence for the variable weight. What i want to do is count the value of weight. if weight=1 then count how many 1 there are if weight=2 then count how many 2 there are and so on .... I've tried to used to initial a variable but can't do it. Does anyone have any suggesstions on how i can do this using DTML? Thanks for any suggestion, -- Mike From tino@wildenhain.de Mon Dec 16 23:04:05 2002 From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:04:05 +0100 Subject: [Zope] HOW TO COUNT VARIABLE WITH In-Reply-To: <20021216223146.21EC438A@postman> References: <20021216223146.21EC438A@postman> Message-ID: <19552154.1040083445@liza> Hi Mike, --On Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 15:32 -0700 Mike Doanh Tran wrote: > > How do i count the value of a variable inside of > I want to count not just the occurence of the variable but the > value of that variable also. For Example i have a variable name "weight": > > > > > > will give me a total number of occurence for the > variable weight. What i want to do is count the value of weight. > > if weight=1 then count how many 1 there are > if weight=2 then count how many 2 there are > and so on .... While it is possible in DTML, I show you a solution with lesser pain: Add a python script and use a construct like that: weights={} for line in context.getQuery(): weights[line.weight]=weights.get(line.weight,0)+1 return weights The script will start with an empty dictionary (hash, associative array) and for any value of weight, it looks up the current value with this kay in the dictionary, using 0 as default if none is found and adds 1 to it. In the result you have a dictionary which maps each value for weight to the count of this value. HTH Tino Wildenhain From pollej@uleth.ca Mon Dec 16 23:02:06 2002 From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:02:06 -0700 Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV References: Message-ID: <3DFE5B6E.62A45825@uleth.ca> My ZClass is based off Page Template and CatalogAware (vis a vis a CatalogAware wrapper for Page Templates! Is there any reason the developers are not making older types CatalogAware to save us this trouble and make the ZCatalog that much more usefull? I digress.) I had hoped the inheritance from Page Templates would have handled the required functions, but it does not. I can see where I might begin to move towards a solution in a Python Product, but not at all with a ZClass. It's a pity, as I'm so very close to being where I want with this. If anyone has any further thoughts on manipularing the inner workings of a ZClass, I'd find that tremendously helpful. In lieu of that, a primer on how to make a Python Product would be nice as it looks like I'll be working overtime... But, for the time being, I'll work with the ancient patch mentioned previously to see if I can incorporate the features I desire into Zope 2.6 Ed sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote: > There are a few methods that you can create and/or override to make your > objects behave in FTP/DAV friendly ways, which will likely need to be > customized to work correctly with your class. > > A good first question is what your ZClass is subclassing? If it is > folderish, there are a few things that you can do to make it act more like a > leaf-level object (i.e. SimpleItem-like). I've never done this in a ZClass, > only in a python product, but you might need to define custom methods, like > manage_FTPlist (override), manage_FTPstat, manage_FTPget, and PUT. > > The biggest thing is that you need to make manage_FTPlist return a tuple > with one element containing the stat info for one object, which tricks the > FTP machinery into thinking this should be represented as a file/leaf > object, and not as a directory to the FTP client. > > This might work (likely as an external method?): > > import marshal > def manage_FTPlist(self,REQUEST): > stat = marshal.loads(self.manage_FTPstat(REQUEST)) > return marshal.dumps((self.id, stat)) > > Once you get this working, it is likely you will need to figure out creating > a custom PUT()... > > Good luck, > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward Pollard [mailto:pollej@uleth.ca] > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:45 AM > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV > > Can anyone bring me up to speed on why my ZClasses cannot be manipulated > via FTP/WebDAV, and what I need to do to make them so they can? > > I was pleased to note that built in Zope objects perform admirably > during FTP/WebDAV manipulation : I'd feared that changed files would > revert to 'File' objects. (Irrational, I know). However, my lovely > ZClass, that I've put so much time and energy into, does not work. > > In FTP - I just get an error when I try to replace it. (Downloading is > fine) > In WebDAV - it sees my ZClass as a Folder. Downloads it as a Folder. > Wierd. > > I'll be happy as can be to get one of theses methods working. This is > imperative as we use Dreamweaver as our site manager/editor. > > Now, I've found this: http://www.zope.org/Members/akendall/zclassftp > Seems relevant, but old as can be. I'm going to compare the files it > alters with the ones that come with Zope 2.6, and hopefully I can > distill some wisdom as to what needs changing. But if anyone can shed > some light to help guide my way, I'd appreciate it. > > Ed > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From mtran@shufflemasterrd.com Mon Dec 16 23:14:22 2002 From: mtran@shufflemasterrd.com (Mike Doanh Tran) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:14:22 -0700 Subject: [Zope] HOW TO COUNT VARIABLE WITH In-Reply-To: <19552154.1040083445@liza> References: <20021216223146.21EC438A@postman> <19552154.1040083445@liza> Message-ID: <20021216231400.5D9E538A@postman> Thank you very much, that works great! I was messing with it in DTML and it got kind of nasty. Mike On Monday 16 December 2002 04:04 pm, Tino Wildenhain wrote: > Hi Mike, > > --On Montag, 16. Dezember 2002 15:32 -0700 Mike Doanh Tran > > wrote: > > How do i count the value of a variable inside of > > I want to count not just the occurence of the variable but the > > value of that variable also. For Example i have a variable name "weight": > > > > > > > > > > > > will give me a total number of occurence for the > > variable weight. What i want to do is count the value of weight. > > > > if weight=1 then count how many 1 there are > > if weight=2 then count how many 2 there are > > and so on .... > > While it is possible in DTML, I show you a solution with lesser pain: > Add a python script and use a construct like that: > > weights={} > for line in context.getQuery(): > weights[line.weight]=weights.get(line.weight,0)+1 > > return weights > > > The script will start with an empty dictionary (hash, associative array) > and for any value of weight, it looks up the current value with this > kay in the dictionary, using 0 as default if none is found and adds 1 > to it. In the result you have a dictionary which maps each value > for weight to the count of this value. > > HTH > Tino Wildenhain > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Mike Doanh Tran Shuffle Master Inc. R&D Website: http://internal.shufflemasterrd.com/ From gill@library.ucsf.edu Mon Dec 16 23:24:59 2002 From: gill@library.ucsf.edu (Kamal Gill) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:24:59 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <988879E2-114D-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> > not this().getProperty('noindex') This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping to ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains a 'noindex' property. I've tried selecting both 'Folder' and 'Page Template' and applying the "not this().getProperty('noindex') expression, which works for filtering out page templates with the 'noindex' property but does not filter out folders with the 'noindex' property. Basically what I would like to do is ignore folders of objects at a time using a 'noindex' property set at the particular folder(s). Any ideas? On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 02:18 PM, Maik Jablonski wrote: > Kamal Gill wrote: >> I need to know how to control what objects are indexed by ZCatalog >> based on a custom property I have added to files and folders I do not >> want indexed by ZCatalog. I have added a boolean property named >> 'noindex' and have set its value as TRUE for files and folders I do >> not want indexed by ZCatalog. >> Now, what I need to know is what to enter in the expr: >> |________________________| textarea form field of the find objects >> tab of my ZCatalog object in order to index all page templates >> *except* those that contain a 'noindex' property set to TRUE. > > please try: > > not this().getProperty('noindex') > > -mj > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From lennart@regebro.nu Mon Dec 16 23:26:13 2002 From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:26:13 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope References: <3DFE37CE.7040409@verizon.net> <16010732.1040079904@liza> Message-ID: <004001c2a55a$88db2c60$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> > Zope's object database is a really good technology, but as long as I > can't gracefully store my code in CVS, I'm hesitant :-) Forget ZClasses and do all coding as Python objects on disk. It's much easier, even. > Problem with web is that it is never possible to > separate code from content 100%. Many people say this, I still haven't seen any good reasons to beleive it. :-) From vattekkat.babu@verizon.net Mon Dec 16 23:27:30 2002 From: vattekkat.babu@verizon.net (Satheesh Babu) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:27:30 -0500 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope In-Reply-To: <16010732.1040079904@liza> References: <3DFE37CE.7040409@verizon.net> <16010732.1040079904@liza> Message-ID: <3DFE6162.2000105@verizon.net> Tino, *snip* > I see many people complaing about the fact of zope using not > plain files for objects. And any time I'm asking why zope should? > Is there any RDBMS out there which stores its tuples in separate > files? Nope! In fact, it an RDBMS use this, I'll not use it :-) It is just that Zope is a bit ahead of its times and people have difficulty accepting it. Daniel's original mail was about how to "sell" Zope, which is why I pointed this out because, believe me, I've had to fight this fight about why I chose Zope, quite a few times. The following is slightly off-topic: ZODB's exposition via Zope that mimicks a filesystem is Zope's biggest advantage along with acquisition, IMO. However, when "selling" Zope, this is also its biggest disadvantage because people tend to associate hierarchical object database with outdated technology. Majority of us who learned programming after late 80's may not think excitedly about hierarchical or network databases. (Talk about being hypocrites, most of us support XML datasets which are nothing but hierarchical). Because Zope so effortlessly mimicks filesystem, people *perceive* it to support all operations you can do with a file system. I do too - old habits die hard :-) Often I see myself wishing for "Oh god, Zope makes all these things so easy. If only I had some kind of locking/tagging/versioning from which I can easily restore objects..." Another issue is people usually want to put data into DBs from which you can easily extract it, do batch updates etc. Mass updation in Zope is still not as straight forward (meaning, can someone knowing only HTML and Javascript figure it out looking at Google) like in SQL "update xyz set x=y where z=a". Yes it can easily be done using a Python script, but many newcomers to Zope may not know Python. [This has been my fondest wish for 2 years] Perhaps Zope Corporation should hire some designers and make very colorful ads on techie/business magazines about how Zope supports RAD, inexpensive hardware, makes different development groups work in harmony (eg: SQL folks and HTML folks can easily work without stepping on each others toes), cross-platform, open standards like DAV, FTP, XML-RPC... > What could be handy, however, would be a cvs pserver implementation > for ZServer to ease the use of standard programming workflow without > resort to the ZMI all the time. Amen. Best regards S Babu http://vsbabu.org/ From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Mon Dec 16 23:30:51 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:30:51 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request In-Reply-To: <988879E2-114D-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> References: <988879E2-114D-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: Kamal Gill wrote: >> not this().getProperty('noindex') > > > This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping to > ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains a > 'noindex' property. Ok, I didn't got your problem. Next try...:) You'll have to use acquisition: not getattr(_.this(),'noindex') this one should do the magic you'll need... -mj From sean.upton@uniontrib.com Tue Dec 17 00:08:58 2002 From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:08:58 -0800 Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV Message-ID: One thing that is a pain about ZClasses is that when you want to call the method of a particular superclass, you have to do some really nasty digging with an external method to specify it, unlike in python products. This seems like it might be related to your problem. You would want to simply have your class call the manage_FTPget, manageFTP_list, manage_FTPstat, and PUT() of the PageTemplate class. In python, you would do this like: class A: def manage_FTPlist(self,REQUEST): #do something here class B(A): def manage_FTPlist(self,REQUEST): return A.manageFTPlist(self,REQUEST) But, alas, you need to get a reference to the class A, which is very hard in a ZClass. You could do likely this with some very deep digging in an external method (something resembling this): def getPageTemplateClass(self): clist = self.___class__.__bases__ #get tuple of all base classes for superc in clist: if superc.__name__ == 'ZopePageTemplate': return superc #return the ZPT class return self.__class__ #fallback/default: return our own class You would then need to create external methods for each of the 4 FTP methods named above and call the appropriate method of the ZopePageTemplate class returned by the above external method. The said methods would use the above method to get access to the superclass A lot of this might be easier in a Python product. The Zope Bible is a pretty good reference/tutorial for building products. My guess is that trying to do this as a ZClass would actually be harder than as a Python Product. Sean You wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My ZClass is based off Page Template and CatalogAware (vis a vis a CatalogAware wrapper for Page Templates! Is there any reason the developers are not making older types CatalogAware to save us this trouble and make the ZCatalog that much more usefull? I digress.) I had hoped the inheritance from Page Templates would have handled the required functions, but it does not. I can see where I might begin to move towards a solution in a Python Product, but not at all with a ZClass. It's a pity, as I'm so very close to being where I want with this. If anyone has any further thoughts on manipularing the inner workings of a ZClass, I'd find that tremendously helpful. In lieu of that, a primer on how to make a Python Product would be nice as it looks like I'll be working overtime... But, for the time being, I'll work with the ancient patch mentioned previously to see if I can incorporate the features I desire into Zope 2.6 Ed From gill@library.ucsf.edu Tue Dec 17 00:25:13 2002 From: gill@library.ucsf.edu (Kamal Gill) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:25:13 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <02685490-1156-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu> > not getattr(_.this(),'noindex') I'm afraid this did not work for me. There are no error messages returned, but there are no items added to the catalog as there should be. Any other ideas? On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 03:30 PM, Maik Jablonski wrote: > Kamal Gill wrote: >>> not this().getProperty('noindex') >> This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping to >> ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains a >> 'noindex' property. > > Ok, I didn't got your problem. Next try...:) You'll have to use > acquisition: > > not getattr(_.this(),'noindex') > > this one should do the magic you'll need... > > -mj > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From list@zettai.net Mon Dec 16 19:41:25 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:41:25 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released In-Reply-To: <000201c2a3d7$32929ac0$a400c9d3@wankyu> Message-ID: hi, what is the is_cmf variable? I followed all the install instructions and when i added a neoboard via the CMF interface i got a key error on this variable. In fact all the actions links give me this error. Running Zope 2.6.0, CMF 1.3. This is in a CMF 1.3 site, w/out Plone. thanks for any hints on how to resolve this. :) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: "Wankyu Choi" > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:13:15 +0900 > To: > Subject: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released > > I'm pleased to announce that NeoBoard 1.1b has been released. From mpayson@dawgdayz.com Tue Dec 17 01:30:37 2002 From: mpayson@dawgdayz.com (Mike Payson) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 17:30:37 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Error creating new Squishdot... Message-ID: <200212161105.43085.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> (I tried sending this to the mailing list using squishdot@yahoo.com, but = the=20 message bounced with an error "Permanent Failure: Other address status". = If=20 there is a better address to use, let me know. Thanks!) I have a brand new installation of Zope (2.6), and Squishdot (1.4.1). Whe= n I=20 try to add an instance of Squishdot, I get the following error: ~~ Zope Error Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource. Error Type: ValueError Error Value: list.index(x): x not in list =20 Troubleshooting Suggestions The URL may be incorrect. The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect. A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error. For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML s= ource=20 for this page.=20 If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for y= our=20 patience.=20 ~~ It does not appear to be related to the options I have selected, since it= =20 happens even if I change a selection.=20 Any suggestions? Thanks! Mike --=20 Mike Payson | DawgDayz Dog Walking & Pet Sitting (206) 280-7295 | www.dawgdayz.com | mpayson@dawgdayz.com From nathan@nathanvalentine.org Tue Dec 17 03:02:47 2002 From: nathan@nathanvalentine.org (Nathan R. Valentine) Date: 16 Dec 2002 22:02:47 -0500 Subject: [Zope] product to limit access to a folder Message-ID: <1040094138.8032.12.camel@hoss> --=-sKVwncvBNauAq8KmU4CD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know if there is a product that will allow site visitors to view a folder only if they are able to correctly answer one of a series of questions?=20 --=20 --- Nathan Valentine - nathan@nathanvalentine.org Jabber: NRVesKY AIM: NRVesKY ICQ: 39023424 --=-sKVwncvBNauAq8KmU4CD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA9/pO6OtuGVF5JE5ARAsElAKDYqbzSqBQdjFVuDDVgsl2XrHOvTACbBlik +FYiqPFaPNGOiz+0qYbhvmQ= =pUgc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-sKVwncvBNauAq8KmU4CD-- From muldrow@mac.com Tue Dec 17 03:13:44 2002 From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:13:44 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ZEO 2/Zope 2.6 status Message-ID: <8D1E4909-116D-11D7-8C9B-000393849E6A@mac.com> What's the current status of using ZEO 2 with Zope 2.6? I know that last month folks were saying use 2.6 with the ZEO from CVS, but I notice we have a ZEO 2.01b on the download site and 2.6b1 is, of course, out there. Do these fellers play nice together? And do we still have to compile the Zope as an unprivileged user like the posts were saying last month? From chrism@zope.com Mon Dec 16 03:22:58 2002 From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough) Date: 15 Dec 2002 22:22:58 -0500 Subject: [Zope] ZEO 2/Zope 2.6 status In-Reply-To: <8D1E4909-116D-11D7-8C9B-000393849E6A@mac.com> References: <8D1E4909-116D-11D7-8C9B-000393849E6A@mac.com> Message-ID: <1040008980.1118.5.camel@dorothy> Apparently Zope 2.6b1 requires ZEO 2.01b. You should always compile and run Zope as an unprivileged user, especially if you don't need to bind to "low" ports. Effective user support is not good in Zope currently and it's easier all around to do this. On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 22:13, Chris Muldrow wrote: > What's the current status of using ZEO 2 with Zope 2.6? I know that > last month folks were saying use 2.6 with the ZEO from CVS, but I > notice we have a ZEO 2.01b on the download site and 2.6b1 is, of > course, out there. Do these fellers play nice together? And do we still > have to compile the Zope as an unprivileged user like the posts were > saying last month? > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From felix@chaptereight.com Mon Dec 16 17:22:22 2002 From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean) Date: 16 Dec 2002 17:22:22 +0000 Subject: [Zope] API for Zope cacheing Message-ID: <1040059343.10313.2.camel@zaphod.chaptereight.com> Is there an API for using Zope's cacheing machinery from python products? Specifically, I have a subclass of SimpleUserFolder which calls 20+ SQL statements every time it's called just to work out the user's details - this is all very cacheable and I can see that Zope provides various caches - there are some useful-looking methods in RAMCacheManager.py, but I was wondering if there is a 'known' way to do it. Thanks, Felix. From sean@horse101.com Tue Dec 17 03:20:43 2002 From: sean@horse101.com (Sean Kelley) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:20:43 -0800 Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax- check file existence References: <3DFCBAB2.8050401@horse101.com> <1039974500.2487.3.camel@toshiba.leesburg.pike> Message-ID: <3DFE980B.3090001@horse101.com> Tried this out and it worked perfectly. Thanks. Satheesh Babu wrote: >try this (not tested): > > > has the image > > no image > > >see this for more info: http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1001104105 > >S Babu >http://vsbabu.org/ > >On Sun, 2002-12-15 at 12:24, Sean Kelley wrote: > > >>Hi >> >>I need help checking the existence of a file in a sub folder. >> >> >> >>if file(graphic) in sub folder exists >> >> display graphic >> >>else >> >> display message that there is no graphic >> >> >> >>The tricky part of this for me is that I have an ID for a graphic which >>is available in a loop >> >>so the graphic I am testing the existence of is named "id.thumb.jpg" and >>is in a sub folder so if I do another dtml-in my ID is not available in >>the second in loop. >> >> >> >>A partial failed example: >> >> >> >> .thumb.jpg> >> // I know this is not right >> >>

>> // and know id is not available at this level but not sure >>how to pass it along. >> >> >> >> no image >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >>(Related lists - >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >> > > > > From wankyu@neoqst.com Tue Dec 17 03:32:10 2002 From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:32:10 +0900 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003101c2a57c$ef020550$7803c9d3@wankyu> Take a look at the neoboard_header.pt. is_cmf is the global variable telling if CMF is installed, that is, if NeoBoard is being used as a CMF product. Make sure you followed the install instructions word by word. You should get a key error for 'neoboard' if something went wrong, since that's the first global variable, not 'is_cmf':

From: "Wankyu Choi" > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:13:15 +0900 > To: > Subject: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released > > I'm pleased to announce that NeoBoard 1.1b has been released. _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From Bryan@capitanoweb.com Tue Dec 17 03:57:01 2002 From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:57:01 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Whoa there! What's up WebDAV??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Okay, I figured it out. Adding command line option -W [portnumber] to the Zope "start" script for z2.py does the trick. It turns on WebDAV source editing. Now I understand. -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Capitano [mailto:Bryan@capitanoweb.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:59 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: Whoa there! What's up WebDAV??? I'm just experimenting with Dreamweaver MX + WebDAV + Zope for the first time. When I open up a Zope Page Template (ZPT), all my TAL syntax disappears. And then when I go back to Zope's ZMI and look at the ZPT, indeed all my TAL expressions are completely wiped out!! What's up with that? I think this defeats the whole purpose of being able to edit ZPT's through Dreamweaver+WebDAV, no? I want to retain the TAL expression syntax round-trip back and forth from Dreamweaver. Is there a way to do this / "fix" this ?? Thanks, Bryan From Bryan@capitanoweb.com Tue Dec 17 02:58:33 2002 From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:58:33 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Whoa there! What's up WebDAV??? Message-ID: I'm just experimenting with Dreamweaver MX + WebDAV + Zope for the first time. When I open up a Zope Page Template (ZPT), all my TAL syntax disappears. And then when I go back to Zope's ZMI and look at the ZPT, indeed all my TAL expressions are completely wiped out!! What's up with that? I think this defeats the whole purpose of being able to edit ZPT's through Dreamweaver+WebDAV, no? I want to retain the TAL expression syntax round-trip back and forth from Dreamweaver. Is there a way to do this / "fix" this ?? Thanks, Bryan From jeff@jeffyouel.com Tue Dec 17 04:33:11 2002 From: jeff@jeffyouel.com (Jeff Youel) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:33:11 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Whoa there! What's up WebDAV??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001401c2a585$68491a90$1601a8c0@YSIDEV1> Bryan Capitano Wrote: > I'm just experimenting with Dreamweaver MX + WebDAV + Zope > for the first time. When I open up a Zope Page Template > (ZPT), all my TAL syntax disappears. And then when I go back > to Zope's ZMI and look at the ZPT, indeed all my TAL > expressions are completely wiped out!! > > What's up with that? I think this defeats the whole purpose > of being able to edit ZPT's through Dreamweaver+WebDAV, no? I > want to retain the TAL expression syntax round-trip back and > forth from Dreamweaver. Is there a way to do this / "fix" this ?? > You need to use the webdav source port. Check out the article at http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Articles/WebDAV. Cheers, Jeff From pskipworth@touchcorp.com Tue Dec 17 06:32:57 2002 From: pskipworth@touchcorp.com (pskipworth@touchcorp.com) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:32:57 +1100 Subject: [Zope] maintaining last_modified_date when copying an object Message-ID: Hi, I've written a short Script (Python) to copy objects from an existing Folder to a new BTree Folder. If possible, I'd like to maintain the original last_modified date of the copied objects - is there a simple way of doing this ? Script is as below... Thanks! PETER SKIPWORTH SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR TOUCHCORP LTD TELEPHONE 03 9635 2626 www.touchcorp.com dest_base = context.restrictedTraverse('/Contacts_BTree') src_base = context.restrictedTraverse('/Contacts') cont_list = src_base.objectItems() # where the objects to copy live for src_id, src_obj in cont_list: print src_id copy_info = src_base.manage_copyObjects((src_id)) dest_base.manage_pasteObjects(copy_info) From jiggs@mac.com Tue Dec 17 06:56:43 2002 From: jiggs@mac.com (Jose Angelo P. Abarentos) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:56:43 +0800 Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That sound's cool. I'll check it out. I actually have found another alternative to MSWordDocument called NuxDocument which support othewr formats too. I will try this on first and see if it solves my problem. Thanks for all who helped! -- Angelo On 12/16/02 11:55 PM, "Bryan Capitano" wrote: > > I have not tried the MSWordDocument product before. That's interesting, > thanks for sharing it. > I am familiar with a commercial product from Logictran called 'R2NET'. With > this software you can easily convert Word (RTF) files to HTML or XHTML or > XML. I use the product extensively at the Linux command line. It is easy to > use, very powerful and robust. It gives you lots of control over how > documents are converted through a translation file which you can customize > if you want more custom output. I think it would be easy to plug into Zope. > > Bryan > From shashank@hbcse.tifr.res.in Tue Dec 17 07:20:40 2002 From: shashank@hbcse.tifr.res.in (Shashank Ashtikar) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:50:40 +0530 Subject: [Zope] Transparent Folder problem on windows Message-ID: <20021217072040.GA31514@hbcse.tifr.res.in> Hi guys, thnx for ur quick response to my question yesterday. I hv another problem but this time regarding transparent folders. I am using a single transparent folder in the product which contains some dtml and python scripts which I am using frequently in my products Interface. On a linux m/c product works fine but on a windows m/c product runs in to problem with the transparent folder. What I am doing is as follows. I have an instance of product say 'SomeInstance' inside this I have a transparent folder as 'Programs' which is containing dtml and python script files which I need. If I type the path as follows "http://localhost:8080/SomeInstance/scriptname" this works on linux perfectly fine( I use mozilla as well as galeon for managing zope server ) but when I type the same path on a windows m/c using IE 6.0, IE throws an error saying "can not locate "http://localhost:8080/SomeInstance/scriptname" if I modify the path as follows then it works. "http://localhost:8080/SomeInstance/Programs/scriptname" can some one tell me why this is hapening and is there a solution to solve this problem. thnx in advnc Shashank A newbie to zope From mpayson@dawgdayz.com Tue Dec 17 08:19:45 2002 From: mpayson@dawgdayz.com (Mike Payson) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:19:45 -0800 Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope? Message-ID: <200212170019.45933.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> Just out of curiosity, are there any tools that I should be looking at fo= r a=20 slashdot-like website? I was going to use Squishdot, but the project seem= s=20 dead. Swishdot sounds promising, but as far as I can tell from a Google=20 search, it doesn't actually exist. Is there something else I should be=20 looking at? --=20 Mike Payson | DawgDayz Dog Walking & Pet Sitting (206) 280-7295 | www.dawgdayz.com | mpayson@dawgdayz.com From juanm_ruiz@yahoo.es Tue Dec 17 09:50:26 2002 From: juanm_ruiz@yahoo.es (Juan Manuel Ruiz Garcia) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:50:26 +0100 Subject: [Zope] local characters and ParsedXML Message-ID: Hi all, I want to know if someone is working with ParsedXML, using local characters, like stressed vowels (spansih, french, german...) and so on... The point is that when I specify the correct encoding at the ParsedXML editForm if I press the "save changes" button, that encoding disappears and the special characters are changed for strange chars. If I try to view the document in explorer, it crashes because of that chars. If I don't specify an special encoding, the save changes button does not works if the xml doc has any of the special characters (which seems to be reasonable) But the strange thing is that I can manipulate via python scripts the info of that XML document, I can write stressed vowels inside it, and I can read it later, but once again I can't simply view the xml document in the navigator, I get an error because of an invalid character. What can I do to make all this work?? Is there any way to write an encoding for the parsed XML whitout being removed automatically from it when I save changes? Thanks in advance ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sorteos Consulta si tu número ha sido premiado en Yahoo! Sorteos http://loteria.yahoo.es From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl Tue Dec 17 09:50:55 2002 From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:50:55 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Zope debugging (was: Considerations using Zope) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A5B1.CAE05DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 To whom it applies: Thank you for replying to my previous post. =20 Next item i'm digging into is Zope debugging. I've checked the = documentation about debugging. Also i'm currently browsing through the = http://zwiki.org/ZopeDebugging page. =20 Any other suggestions for easy debugging zope apps? Setting breakpoints = and stepping through a zope app? =20 Greets, =20 Daniel Hooymans ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A5B1.CAE05DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Next = item i'm=20 digging into is Zope debugging. I've checked the documentation about = debugging.=20 Also i'm currently browsing through the http://zwiki.org/ZopeDebugging page.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C2A5B1.CAE05DB0-- From k_hamzat@yahoo.com Tue Dec 17 10:09:21 2002 From: k_hamzat@yahoo.com (Hamzat Kamal) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 02:09:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Zope] which one is better running zope with it own python or with the OS python Message-ID: <20021217100921.66942.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, I have a Linus Redhat OS with zope server running on it. Firstly, how do I know if zope is using it own python or is using the python that come with the OS. Secondly, which one will give me optimum performance? that is running zope with it own python or with the OS python. And lastly, how do i configure zope to either use it own python or OS python. Thanks and God bless U all. ===== Hamzat kamaldeen Ishola Dnet Systems Limited. 223 Ikorodu Road, Lagos. Nigeria. 234 1 7749381, 234 08033011305 --- If Mistake is an opportunity to see better, then do not fear it, but ready to admit it. NOTE: Sentimental decisions are not mistakes but failures !!! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From elabuschagne@gmsonline.co.za Tue Dec 17 10:05:11 2002 From: elabuschagne@gmsonline.co.za (Etienne Labuschagne) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:05:11 +0200 Subject: [Zope] Local Roles - taking away further down the tree? Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021217120127.02393270@esrimail> Hi there, First, AFAIK local roles are acquired further down the tree - if I assign a local role, the user will have that local role in that folder's children too. Is is possible to "remove" the local role of a user in a folder/set of folders further down the tree? If this is not possible and maybe even a stupid idea, please fire away - I need some ammo to convince the client that this is anyway not a good idea - even if it cannot be done! Thanks Etienne From kedai@kedai.com.my Tue Dec 17 10:12:05 2002 From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:12:05 +0800 Subject: [Zope] CatalogPathAwareness and manage_beforeDelete Message-ID: <200212171812.05189.kedai@kedai.com.my> hello all i have a product that subclass CatalogPathAwareness and SimpleItem all wo= rks=20 ok. i,e an object instance will be added and deleted from the catalog however, if i override manage_beforeDelete, the catalog is not cleared wh= en i=20 delete the object instance is that natural? do i have to supply my own uncatalog_object ? with this snippet, it still doesnt work. i guess i don't get what uid fo= r=20 uncatalog_object is ... here's the snippet def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container): """method for delete /cut/paste/rename""" img_dir =3D getattr(self.aq_parent, 'images') img_dir.manage_delObjects([item.getId()+'_image']) self.uncatalog_object(item.absolute_url(1)) thanks --=20 =09http://www.kedai.com.my/ http://www.kedai.com.my/eZine =09http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai http://www.my-zope.org =09Am I Evil? From lennart@regebro.nu Tue Dec 17 10:25:16 2002 From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:25:16 +0100 Subject: [Zope] which one is better running zope with it own python or with the OS python References: <20021217100921.66942.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001801c2a5b6$eea24cc0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Hamzat Kamal" > I have a Linus Redhat OS with zope server running on it. Firstly, how do I > know if zope is using it own python or is using the python that come with > the OS. Secondly, which one will give me optimum performance? that is > running zope with it own python or with the OS python. One thing I have noticed is that the pythons that come with the OS's or in precompiled packages have a tendency to fail on CR/LF endings, while the default compile of python are happy with them. I have absolutely no idea how this happens, because I can't find any settings that change this behaviour, so it's all very strange. I therefore always end up compiling python from scratch, since it's so trivial anyway. From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl Tue Dec 17 10:31:19 2002 From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:31:19 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope Message-ID: > > Zope's object database is a really good technology, but as long as I > > can't gracefully store my code in CVS, I'm hesitant :-) >=20 > Forget ZClasses and do all coding as Python objects on disk. It's much > easier, even. Why is this ? More control ? Not working through the ZMI?=20 Is it possible setting up a quick framework for your classes and further = write them out through python objects on disk? Note: I have not yet been able to do much on ZClasses and less (read = nothing) on writing a product using Python objects on disk. Guess the following is true: "Need more input" greets, Daniel From rpeck@rpeck.com Tue Dec 17 10:49:48 2002 From: rpeck@rpeck.com (Ray Peck) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 02:49:48 -0800 Subject: [Zope] newbie: why can't I list directories under ftp on RH7.2? Message-ID: <15871.332.122595.621237@rpeck.com> Hi! I'm a new Zope user / admin and so far am pretty happy with the system. I've been a software developer for about 12 years (I was a CPU engineer before that), working on things as diverse as object-code rewriting, RISC assembler code graphics libraries, writing a Java distributed object platform and rewriting a WYSIWYG web-based website editor to use an XML page representation. I'm impressed with the comprehensiveness of what's available in Zope and am happy to be here. Question: I've set up the server on my rh7.2 machine, connected through Apache and using virtual hosts and SiteRoot. All is going well so far (my initial site is http://www.sfbagc.com), except for ftp. I've opened up port 8021 using ipchains to my local network, and I can ftp to the server from localhost or from a Windows ftp client, and can log in. But I can't get a directory listing ("Unauthorized") or change to directories that I thounk ought to be there ("/Diaries"). I haven't been able to find any clues using Google. Am I missing some important Zope or system config? Any clues would help. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again." - F. P. Jones From lennart@torped.se Tue Dec 17 11:13:00 2002 From: lennart@torped.se (Lennart Regebro) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:13:00 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope References: Message-ID: <003401c2a5bd$58935dd0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal> From: "Daniël Hooymans" > > Forget ZClasses and do all coding as Python objects on disk. It's much > > easier, even. > > Why is this ? More control ? Not working through the ZMI? Yup, yup + CVS and you can do anything, so you aren't painting yourself into a corner. And actually, I've always found it easier too. > Is it possible setting up a quick framework for your classes and > further write them out through python objects on disk? I don't understand this question. > Guess the following is true: "Need more input" Well, when I started it was the "BroingProduct" tutorial that was where you started: http://www.zope.org/Members/gtk/Boring/HowTo-Boring But there may be newer tutorials around today. From ffaure@bigfoot.com Tue Dec 17 13:01:08 2002 From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:01:08 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers? Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021217135938.00a774b0@mail.club-internet.fr> Hi, I'm currently looking at PHP + templating engines and Zope, and would like to know if there are any developers in this list who used to work with PHP, and decided to switch to Zope to develop web apps, and, if yes, the reasons you switched. Thx Fred. From jens@zope.com Tue Dec 17 13:06:45 2002 From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:06:45 -0500 Subject: [Zope] maintaining last_modified_date when copying an object In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <650A126D-11C0-11D7-8885-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> if by last modified dat you mean "bobobase_modification_time" then no, there is no way. that value is generated by the underlying ZODB code and cannot be set. if you have products where you want to store a modification date it is recommended that you set your own attribute and manipulate that attribute instead of relying on bobobase_modification_time, over which you have no control. jens On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 01:32 US/Eastern, pskipworth@touchcorp.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I've written a short Script (Python) to copy objects from an existing > Folder to a new BTree Folder. If possible, I'd like to maintain the > original last_modified date of the copied objects - is there a simple > way of doing this ? From usenet2@samba-choro.com.br Tue Dec 17 13:15:44 2002 From: usenet2@samba-choro.com.br (Paulo Eduardo Neves) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:15:44 -0200 Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade Message-ID: <200212171115.44579.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br> I've just upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.6. In the process, I've also changed some things (e.g., changed from SiteRoot/SiteAccess to VHM). My problem now is that XML-RPC calls aren't working any more. I always get a /RPC2 NotFound error. Here is the output of calling a simple python script: ################################333 python Python 2.1.3 (#4, May 23 2002, 15:13:21) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)] on linux2 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. Welcome to Lazy Python. Type "help LazyPython" for help. >>> import xmlrpclib >>> s = xmlrpclib.Server('http://www.samba-choro.com.br') >>> s.testXMLRPC() ------------------------------------------------------------ Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? File "/usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/xmlrpclib.py", line 986, in __call__ return self.__send(self.__name, args) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/xmlrpclib.py", line 1239, in __request verbose=self.__verbose File "/usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/xmlrpclib.py", line 1037, in request return self._parse_response(h.getfile(), sock) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/xmlrpclib.py", line 1138, in _parse_response return u.close() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/xmlrpclib.py", line 703, in close raise apply(Fault, (), self._stack[0]) Fault: ########################### If I try to call other sites with Zope 2.6.0 (e.g. Zope.org) I also get the same XMLRPC error (/RPC2 NotFound). Does anybody knows how can I fix it? I'm running Zope behind Apache, using Virtual Host Monster. regards, -- Paulo Eduardo Neves Agenda do Samba & Choro, o boteco virtual do samba e choro http://www.samba-choro.com.br From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de Tue Dec 17 13:20:10 2002 From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:20:10 +0100 Subject: [Zope] Re: Any comments from ex-PHP developers? References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021217135938.00a774b0@mail.club-internet.fr> Message-ID: Frederic Faure wrote: > I'm currently looking at PHP + templating engines and Zope, and would > like to know if there are any developers in this list who used to work > with PHP, and decided to switch to Zope to develop web apps, and, if > yes, the reasons you switched. I used a lot of PHP in my earlier life... I switched because: With ZOPE you need an hour for a prototype, with PHP you need a week or more [and you have only half of the features implemented in this time...;-)]. And the other reason is: ZOPE is REAL FUN!!! be zoped, -mj From list@zettai.net Tue Dec 17 08:32:09 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:32:09 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope? In-Reply-To: <200212170019.45933.mpayson@dawgdayz.com> Message-ID: hi the list is growing: CMF (cmf.zope.org) BlogFace ( http://www.zope.org/Members/karl/BlogFace/BlogFace ) PABlog ( http://www.zope.org/Members/rev_matt_y/PA_Blog/ ) <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: Mike Payson > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:19:45 -0800 > To: zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope? > > Just out of curiosity, are there any tools that I should be looking at for a > slashdot-like website? I was going to use Squishdot, but the project seems > dead. Swishdot sounds promising, but as far as I can tell from a Google > search, it doesn't actually exist. Is there something else I should be > looking at? > > -- > Mike Payson | DawgDayz Dog Walking & Pet Sitting > (206) 280-7295 | www.dawgdayz.com | mpayson@dawgdayz.com > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From list@zettai.net Tue Dec 17 08:58:58 2002 From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:58:58 +0000 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released In-Reply-To: <003101c2a57c$ef020550$7803c9d3@wankyu> Message-ID: hi, i'm pretty sure i followed the install instructions from INSTALL.txt... Installing NeoBoard o First, make sure you installed NeoPortal Library -Did this o Untar the package to YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products -I installed it in my INSTANCE_HOME o The package directory should be called 'NeoBoard': YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products/NeoBoard I changed the id of the directory to NeoBoard. The Product loads fine and is not broken. o Restart Zope. o Zope's ZMI should be displaying the following two products: - NeoBoard - NeoBoard Skin Folder o Add 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' first. o Add 'NeoBoard'. 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' must be reachable by 'NeoBoard'. o Done. Right got all that Installing CMFNeoBoard in CMF or Plone site o Add an external method with the following attributes: - Id : doesn't matter (neoboard_installer, for example) - Title: doesn't matter either - Module Name: NeoBoard.Install (note it's NeoBoard not CMFNeoBoard) - Function Name: install o Click on the 'Test' tab of the added external method Did this and it added the skin and content Type, actions, etc. Note that CMFNeoBoard is addable either thru ZMI or CMF/Plone interface. I added the CMfNeoBoard instance in question through the CMF interface. Is there something I missed? OK, I'm adding NeoBoard to a fresh, stock CMF site on the same Zope instance. Ran External Method Registered CMFNeoBoard with the types tool... Added 'neoboard_skins' directory views to portal_skins Added NeoBoard Skins to Basic skins Added NeoBoard Skins to No CSS skins Added NeoBoard Skins to Nouvelle skins Added NeoBoard article actions to the actions tool adding the CMFNeoBoard and i get the same error Error Type: KeyError Error Value: is_cmf Will manually setting the property via the ZMI on the root of the Neoboard instance fix this? What should it be set to? What type of property should it be? <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: "Wankyu Choi" > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:32:10 +0900 > To: > Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released > > Take a look at the neoboard_header.pt. > > is_cmf is the global variable telling if CMF is installed, that is, if > NeoBoard is being used as a CMF product. > > Make sure you followed the install instructions word by word. You should > get a key error for 'neoboard' if something went wrong, since that's the > first global variable, not 'is_cmf': > >

metal:define-macro="neoboard_global_definition_header" > tal:define="dummy python: here.checkNeoBoardStatus(); > global neoboard python: here.getNeoBoard(); > global is_cmf python: hasattr(neoboard, 'portal_url'); > global is_plone python: hasattr(neoboard, > 'plone_utils'); > > Anyone getting the same error? I can't reproduce that error. > > Regards, > Wankyu Choi > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > To the dedicated staff at NeoQuest, language is not a problem > to be dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Wankyou Choi > CEO/President > NeoQuest Communications, Inc. > 3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu > Seoul, Korea > Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058 > Corporate Home: http://www.neoqst.com > Personal Home: http://www.zoper.net, http://www.neoboard.net > e-mail: wankyu@neoqst.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of > george donnelly > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:41 AM > To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released > > > hi, what is the is_cmf variable? > > I followed all the install instructions and when i added a neoboard via > the CMF interface i got a key error on this variable. In fact all the > actions links give me this error. > > Running Zope 2.6.0, CMF 1.3. This is in a CMF 1.3 site, w/out Plone. > > thanks for any hints on how to resolve this. :) > > <--> > george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting > - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet > - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > >> From: "Wankyu Choi" >> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:13:15 +0900 >> To: >> Subject: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released >> >> I'm pleased to announce that NeoBoard 1.1b has been released. > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > From wankyu@neoqst.com Tue Dec 17 14:17:49 2002 From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:17:49 +0900 Subject: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers? In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021217135938.00a774b0@mail.club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <002201c2a5d7$22e1a4c0$ab02c9d3@wankyu> Hi, I don't consider myself an *ex*-PHP developer, but just wanted to share my thoughts. I developed and still develop all those serious applications in PHP and even wrote a couple of books on the language with Wrox. PHP has a lot to offer in various aspects, and does have its own set of advantages over Python and Zope. However, when it comes to that old theme of web developers, separating presentation and logic, I cannot but admit that Zope beats PHP hands down (of course, unless you DTMLify all of your Zope applications and gave them 'welcome-to-my-jungle' looks^^) In a way, PHP encourages mixing presentaion and logic. I fell for that 'immediate convenience' for a number of occasions and came up with applications that do all kinds of presentaion and logic mix-ups. One good example is PHP NeoBoard vs. Zope NeoBoard. PHP NeoBoard has been in heavy use since 1999. I stopped developing it in PHP once I realized I could do it in less than two days in Zope. And I did. Ported (not even ported, just borrowed concepts from) PHP NeoBoard to Zope in less than a few hours. My jaw just dropped at that moment I saw a 'better' NeoBoard work after a few hours of coding in Zope. It took me more than a few moths to get there in PHP. Just compare the length of the code: Zope NeoBoard 1.1b has tons of more features than PHP NB 3.0 does with far fewer lines of code. Guss it's not entirey fair to compare Zope and PHP in all aspects since we should see Zope as a developing platform/application server not a langauage. But as a web development platform, yes, I came to choose Zope over PHP. All I developed for basic foundation on which to develop other applications in PHP: Zope already got it. One good example: you don't have to seek a template engine. Zope already has it. I have yet to find a better template engine than ZPT. I still marvel at the elegance in its design. Just spend a couple of hours with ZPT, you'll know what I mean. Another strong point of Zope is... It's based on Python: complete OOP langauge. Rumor has it that even PHP5 wouldn't be 100% oop-ish. What's missing in PHP in terms of object-orientedness, you get more than you need with Python and Zope. Personally, I'd go for Python over even Java for OO-ness. Python simply helps you (even forces you to) code in far cleaner and more extensible way. In terms of OOP-ishness, two more points for Python and Zope. For the sake of fairness, however, Zope has a few drawbacks (and ZPT for that matter). 1. 'THE' PHP community is hundreds of times bigger than that of Zope. (Hundreds? Guess some Zopistas wouldn't agree.... that's sad but true. For instance, in Korea, I can even count everyone that can do any serious stuff in Zope with my two sets of fingers. PHP? Everywhere you look.) You'd know what I mean by this. I had a real hard time figuring out how I go about doing the same stuff in Zope as I did in PHP. Documentation/community support/etc, ammunitions that you desperately need in this somtimes-very-very-cold opensource world, is far weaker than those of PHP. (It might be a blessing in disguise since from the opposite end, that means you'd be rarity with Zope expertise: huge demand and little supply^^ To extend that Korean market anology, we have so many PHP developers that we even hear 'PHP developer' jokes as American people do lawyer jokes;-) 2. It comes with its own object database, which is something really new to PHP developers. I have yet to find a good and Zope-friendly way out of it, as a matter of fact. I have tons and tons and tons of data that I'm still wary of putting into ZODB. (Okay some Zopistas, here, would say, hey that' not true! But yes it's true in my case. Suppose you have 100 giga bytes of data. More than 50% of it should be dynamically loaded into and unloaded from memory. All I got, as of now, is a single-file ZODB storage. Having a single 100-giga byte file... I just can't take take. I do want a version-less file-based ZODB storage, which, again, as of now, is non-existent. I'm looking towards Directory storage, but it's still in beta. ZEO? Well, I don't have the hardware to go with that option. I've been doing this; no problem with LAMP - Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP combo. But with Zope, it IS a problem now. What I really, desparately want from ZOPE is a bit more leeway in selecting strorage options. Maybe... ZOPE3/ZODB4 combo? ) 3. Elegance (separating presentaton and logic: MVC model) sacrifices performance: I found ZPT is way slower than DTML and mixed-up PHP code (but you'd get into similar dilemma if you opt for any template engine in PHP since that would take a whole lot more time to render, anyway.) I used to choose performance over anything else, thus the mix-up of presentation and logic. I changed that attitude. I got sick and tired of re-doing all the applications I developed years ago, months ago, weeks ago, and even days ago: I can't immediately figure out what I was doing in that block of code in PHP NeoBoard 3.0, for example. I tried my own template engine with PHP NeoBoard 3.0, an attempt that miserably failed. I did a message board, community club application, e-commercing application, web-base mail application, etc: the works in PHP. I'm RE-doing them all in Zope. Why? Thought it'd be better to redo them all from scratch than extending or even modifying the mess. Zope and PHP are good tools in their own rights. One might be preferred in some areas and the other in the others. Simply put, one can't beat the other in all aspects. What comes on top of your priority list, that's what counts, IMHO. Hope this helps. Best Regards, Wankyu Choi --------------------------------------------------------------- To the dedicated staff at NeoQuest, language is not a problem to be dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed. --------------------------------------------------------------- Wankyou Choi CEO/President NeoQuest Communications, Inc. 3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu Seoul, Korea Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058 Corporate Home: http://www.neoqst.com Personal Home: http://www.zoper.net, http://www.neoboard.net e-mail: wankyu@neoqst.com --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of Frederic Faure Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:01 PM To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers? Hi, I'm currently looking at PHP + templating engines and Zope, and would like to know if there are any developers in this list who used to work with PHP, and decided to switch to Zope to develop web apps, and, if yes, the reasons you switched. Thx Fred. _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) From wankyu@neoqst.com Tue Dec 17 14:21:16 2002 From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:21:16 +0900 Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002301c2a5d7$9ed005e0$ab02c9d3@wankyu> Mind telling me which skin causes that error? Or just send me the traceback. -----Original Message----- From: george donnelly [mailto:list@zettai.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released hi, i'm pretty sure i followed the install instructions from INSTALL.txt... Installing NeoBoard o First, make sure you installed NeoPortal Library -Did this o Untar the package to YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products -I installed it in my INSTANCE_HOME o The package directory should be called 'NeoBoard': YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products/NeoBoard I changed the id of the directory to NeoBoard. The Product loads fine and is not broken. o Restart Zope. o Zope's ZMI should be displaying the following two products: - NeoBoard - NeoBoard Skin Folder o Add 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' first. o Add 'NeoBoard'. 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' must be reachable by 'NeoBoard'. o Done. Right got all that Installing CMFNeoBoard in CMF or Plone site o Add an external method with the following attributes: - Id : doesn't matter (neoboard_installer, for example) - Title: doesn't matter either - Module Name: NeoBoard.Install (note it's NeoBoard not CMFNeoBoard) - Function Name: install o Click on the 'Test' tab of the added external method Did this and it added the skin and content Type, actions, etc. Note that CMFNeoBoard is addable either thru ZMI or CMF/Plone interface. I added the CMfNeoBoard instance in question through the CMF interface. Is there something I missed? OK, I'm adding NeoBoard to a fresh, stock CMF site on the same Zope instance. Ran External Method Registered CMFNeoBoard with the types tool... Added 'neoboard_skins' directory views to portal_skins Added NeoBoard Skins to Basic skins Added NeoBoard Skins to No CSS skins Added NeoBoard Skins to Nouvelle skins Added NeoBoard article actions to the actions tool adding the CMFNeoBoard and i get the same error Error Type: KeyError Error Value: is_cmf Will manually setting the property via the ZMI on the root of the Neoboard instance fix this? What should it be set to? What type of property should it be? <--> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net > From: "Wankyu Choi" > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:32:10 +0900 > To: > Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released > > Take a look at the neoboard_header.pt. > > is_cmf is the global variable telling if CMF is installed, that is, if > NeoBoard is being used as a CMF product. > > Make sure you followed the install instructions word by word. You > should get a key error for 'neoboard' if something went wrong, since > that's the first global variable, not 'is_cmf': > >

of the form, it does not recreate
entity references from the internal representation but writes the
character itself in a representation your browser does not understand.

I think the right solution would be to override DOMIO with methods to 
recreate entity references from the Unicode source so that only ASCII
characters appear in the <textarea>.

From guido@python.org  Tue Dec 17 14:54:41 2002
From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum on behalf of Steve Holden)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:54:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] PyCon DC 2003: Extension of Submission Deadline
Message-ID: <200212171454.gBHEsfh10939@odiug.zope.com>

The deadline for submissions to PyCon DC 2003 appears to have been too tight
for many authors. While some promised submissions have arrived, several have
not even though the original deadline of 15 December has passed.

Rather than exclude promising papers the organizing committee has decided to
extend the deadline for submissions. Accordingly, the new schedule for
proposals is as follows:

Submission Deadline: January 15, 2003
    Notification of Acceptance: January 31, 2003
    Final Versions Due: March 10, 2003
    Conference Dates: March 26-28, 2003 [unchanged]

Authors who have already submitted abstracts are invited to resubmit if they
feel that the original deadline had an adverse effect on the quality of
their submissions.

Please make any appropriate media, mailing lists and newsgroups aware of
this announcement. Enquiries should be sent in the first instance to
pycondc-2003@python.org. Information about PyCon DC 2003 is available at the
following URLs:

www.python.org/pycon
    www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PyCon

The latter URL, a Wiki page, can also be used to communicate with the
conference organizers. This is *your* conference: tell us what *you* want to
see in it.

regards
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 17 15:07:24 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:07:24 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog: sorting on multiple indexes
References: <GHECIFOHLCIDDBCOOLCBEEEJDMAA.giuseppe.bonelli@tiscali.it> <592752.1039680414@[0.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <3DFF3DAC.6070008@nipltd.com>

Andreas Jung wrote:
> The sequence.sort() method supports multidimensional sorting.
> CHeck the docs for details.

Yeah, but that's not gonna be nearly as efficient as actually using the catalog 
indexes to sort.

I'm going to offer up sacrifices to the god of catalog, otherwise known as Casey ;-)

cheers,

Chris

From list@zettai.net  Tue Dec 17 10:04:08 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:04:08 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
In-Reply-To: <002301c2a5d7$9ed005e0$ab02c9d3@wankyu>
Message-ID: <BA24A718.152BC%list@zettai.net>

there is no traceback (I'm running 2.6.0 and the stock zpt skins from cmf
1.3).

here is the url: http://www.zettai.net/Forum2/

Can you tell me how to manually enable this in the meantime?

<-->
george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :)
Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net

> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:21:16 +0900
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> Mind telling me which skin causes that error?
> 
> Or just send me the traceback.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: george donnelly [mailto:list@zettai.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM
> To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> 
> hi, i'm pretty sure i followed the install instructions from
> INSTALL.txt...
> 
> 
> Installing NeoBoard
> 
> o First, make sure you installed NeoPortal Library
> 
> -Did this 
> 
> o Untar the package to YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products
> 
> -I installed it in my INSTANCE_HOME
> 
> o The package directory should be called 'NeoBoard':
> YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products/NeoBoard
> 
> I changed the id of the directory to NeoBoard. The Product loads fine
> and is not broken.
> 
> o Restart Zope.
> 
> o Zope's ZMI should be displaying the following two products:
> 
> - NeoBoard
> 
> - NeoBoard Skin Folder
> 
> o Add 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' first.
> 
> o Add 'NeoBoard'. 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' must be reachable by
> 'NeoBoard'.
> 
> o Done.
> 
> Right got all that
> 
> Installing CMFNeoBoard in CMF or Plone site
> 
> o Add an external method with the following attributes:
> 
> - Id : doesn't matter (neoboard_installer, for example)
> 
> - Title: doesn't matter either
> 
> - Module Name: NeoBoard.Install (note it's NeoBoard not
> CMFNeoBoard)
> 
> - Function Name: install
> 
> o Click on the 'Test' tab of the added external method
> 
> Did this and it added the skin and content Type, actions, etc.
> 
> 
> Note that CMFNeoBoard is addable either thru ZMI or CMF/Plone
> interface.
> 
> I added the CMfNeoBoard instance in question through the CMF interface.
> 
> Is there something I missed?
> 
> OK, I'm adding NeoBoard to a fresh, stock CMF site on the same Zope
> instance.
> 
> Ran External Method
> 
> 
> Registered CMFNeoBoard with the types tool...
> Added 'neoboard_skins' directory views to portal_skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to Basic skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to No CSS skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to Nouvelle skins
> Added NeoBoard article actions to the actions tool
> 
> 
> adding the CMFNeoBoard and i get the same error
> 
> Error Type: KeyError
> Error Value: is_cmf
> 
> 
> Will manually setting the property via the ZMI on the root of the
> Neoboard instance fix this? What should it be set to? What type of
> property should it be?
> 
> <-->
> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope Hosting
> - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM: zettainet
> - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
> 
>> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:32:10 +0900
>> To: <zope@zope.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>> 
>> Take a look at the neoboard_header.pt.
>> 
>> is_cmf is the global variable telling if CMF is installed, that is, if
> 
>> NeoBoard is being used as  a CMF product.
>> 
>> Make sure you followed the install instructions word by word. You
>> should get a key error for 'neoboard' if something went wrong, since
>> that's the first global variable, not 'is_cmf':
>> 
>> <div tal:omit-tag=""
>> metal:define-macro="neoboard_global_definition_header"
>> tal:define="dummy python: here.checkNeoBoardStatus();
>> global neoboard python: here.getNeoBoard();
>> global is_cmf python: hasattr(neoboard, 'portal_url');
>> global is_plone python: hasattr(neoboard,
>> 'plone_utils');
>> 
>> Anyone getting the same error?  I can't reproduce that error.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Wankyu Choi
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> To the dedicated staff at NeoQuest, language is not a problem to be
>> dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Wankyou Choi
>> CEO/President
>> NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
>> 3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
>> Seoul, Korea
>> Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058
>> Corporate Home: http://www.neoqst.com
>> Personal  Home: http://www.zoper.net, http://www.neoboard.net
>> e-mail:   wankyu@neoqst.com
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of
>> george donnelly
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:41 AM
>> To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
>> Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>> 
>> 
>> hi, what is the is_cmf variable?
>> 
>> I followed all the install instructions and when i added a neoboard
>> via the CMF interface i got a key error on this variable. In fact all
>> the actions links give me this error.
>> 
>> Running Zope 2.6.0, CMF 1.3. This is in a CMF 1.3 site, w/out Plone.
>> 
>> thanks for any hints on how to resolve this. :)
>> 
>> <-->
>> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope
>> Hosting
>> - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM:
> zettainet
>> - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
>> 
>>> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:13:15 +0900
>>> To: <zope-announce@zope.org>
>>> Subject: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>>> 
>>> I'm pleased to announce that NeoBoard 1.1b has been released.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists -
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists -
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>

From list@zettai.net  Tue Dec 17 10:07:10 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:07:10 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
In-Reply-To: <002301c2a5d7$9ed005e0$ab02c9d3@wankyu>
Message-ID: <BA24A7CE.152BC%list@zettai.net>

ok, here's the traceback:

Time    2002/12/17 07:01:23.243 US/Pacific
User Name (User Id)    Anonymous User (None)
Request URL    http://zettai.net/Forum2/index_html
Exception Type    KeyError
Exception Value    is_cmf

Traceback (innermost last):

*    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
*    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
*    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
*    Module Products.NeoBoard.CMFNeoBoard, line 338, in __call__
*    Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__
*    Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
*    Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 163, in _exec
*    Module Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate, line 228, in _exec
*    Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line 139, in pt_render
*    Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 95, in pt_render
<FSPageTemplate at /clients/zettai/neoboard_main used for
/clients/zettai/Forum2>
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 186, in __call__
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 689, in do_useMacro
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 655, in do_condition
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 712, in do_defineSlot
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 400, in do_optTag_tal
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 385, in do_optTag
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 380, in no_tag
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
*    Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 396, in do_optTag_tal
*    Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 217, in evaluate
URL: /clients/zettai/main_template
Line 35, Column 8
Expression: standard:'is_cmf'
Names:

{'container': <CMFSite instance at 9957750>,
 'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at 0x871e1e4>,
 'here': <CMFNeoBoard at /clients/zettai/Forum2>,
 'loop': <SafeMapping instance at a7c91f8>,
 'modules': <Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter
instance at 0x8718174>,
 'nothing': None,
 'options': {'args': ()},
 'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at a7c91f8>,
 'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://zettai.net/Forum2/index_html>,
 'root': <Application instance at 999e288>,
 'template': <FSPageTemplate at /clients/zettai/neoboard_main used for
/clients/zettai/Forum2>,
 'traverse_subpath': [],
 'user': Anonymous User}
*    Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 206, in __call__
*    Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 194, in _eval
*    Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 146, in _eval
__traceback_info__: is_cmf

KeyError: is_cmf

-------

there is no traceback (I'm running 2.6.0 and the stock zpt skins from cmf
1.3).

here is the url: http://www.zettai.net/Forum2/

Can you tell me how to manually enable this in the meantime?

<-->
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Dec 17 15:13:14 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:13:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] maintaining last_modified_date when copying an object
In-Reply-To: <650A126D-11C0-11D7-8885-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <H00000fd004cce65.1040106777.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS> <650A126D-11C0-11D7-8885-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <20021217151314.GC3034@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 08:06:45AM -0500, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> if by last modified dat you mean "bobobase_modification_time" then no, 
> there is no way. that value is generated by the underlying ZODB code 
> and cannot be set.
> 
> if you have products where you want to store a modification date it is 
> recommended that you set your own attribute and manipulate that 
> attribute instead of relying on bobobase_modification_time, over which 
> you have no control.

Note that this has been addressed in zope 3, so when zope 3
is useable you won't need to roll your own anymore. :)

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 17 15:18:19 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:18:19 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope?
References: <200212170019.45933.mpayson@dawgdayz.com>
Message-ID: <3DFF403B.1000208@nipltd.com>

Mike Payson wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, are there any tools that I should be looking at for a 
> slashdot-like website? I was going to use Squishdot, but the project seems 
> dead.

It isn't dead, it's mature. It'll work with 2.6.0 by Xmas.

> Swishdot sounds promising, but as far as I can tell from a Google 
> search, it doesn't actually exist. Is there something else I should be 
> looking at?

Yeah, Swishdot does exist, but you wouldn't want to use it. That's something 
else I hoep to remedy over Christmas.

cheers,

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 17 15:19:05 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:19:05 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Error creating new Squishdot...
References: <200212161105.43085.mpayson@dawgdayz.com>
Message-ID: <3DFF4069.9030203@nipltd.com>

Mike Payson wrote:
> (I tried sending this to the mailing list using squishdot@yahoo.com, but the 
> message bounced with an error "Permanent Failure: Other address status". If 
> there is a better address to use, let me know. Thanks!)
> 
> I have a brand new installation of Zope (2.6), and Squishdot (1.4.1). When I 
> try to add an instance of Squishdot, I get the following error:

RTFW ;-)

http://squishdot.org/1035890189/

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 17 15:25:29 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:25:29 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Local Roles  - taking away further down the tree?
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021217120127.02393270@esrimail>
Message-ID: <3DFF41E9.9050900@nipltd.com>

Etienne Labuschagne wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> First, AFAIK local roles are acquired further down the tree - if I 
> assign a local role, the user will have that local role in that folder's 
> children too.

Yup.

> Is is possible to "remove" the local role of a user in a folder/set of 
> folders further down the tree?

Yup, but only in Zope 3 :-S

> If this is not possible and maybe even a stupid idea, please fire away - 
> I need some ammo to convince the client that this is anyway not a good 
> idea - even if it cannot be done!

You may want to try:
http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/LRBlacklist

cheers,

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 17 15:27:15 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:27:15 +0000
Subject: [Zope] product to limit access to a folder
References: <1040094138.8032.12.camel@hoss>
Message-ID: <3DFF4253.3060602@nipltd.com>

Nathan R. Valentine wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a product that will allow site visitors to
> view a folder only if they are able to correctly answer one of a series
> of questions?

Use CookieCrumbler and have an 'interesing' login form.

cheers,

Chris

From bkc@murkworks.com  Tue Dec 17 15:53:29 2002
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:53:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZClasses and FTP/WebDAV
In-Reply-To: <3DFE5B6E.62A45825@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <3DFF008E.24887.408D1DE@localhost>

I asked the same question quite a few months ago and got no response. I see Sean is 
suggesting moving to a "real class".

I have a ZClass based on DTML Method.  Same problem as yours. :-(

Brad Clements,                bkc@murkworks.com   (315)268-1000
http://www.murkworks.com                          (315)268-9812 Fax
AOL-IM: BKClements

From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Dec 17 15:47:08 2002
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:47:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Printing within DTML
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9700DE9@PROSERV>

Hi,

I have created an online form that people are using. One form the user
inputs the header information (name, address, etc.) and generates a record
number. The next set of forms allows the user to put in detail information
and there can be multiple line items per header record. They can see the
single line item of information on the screen and can print (using the web
browser printer). Is there a way, through a form/method, where the user can
put in the record number and all associated line items print to their
default printer?

I understand how to do the calls to retrieve the information but I am a
little fussy on how to send the css type output to a printer. Thanks in
advance

Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com

From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Tue Dec 17 16:01:08 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:01:08 -0000
Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET
In-Reply-To: <BA24EBAB.1BD9D%jiggs@mac.com>
References: <BA24EBAB.1BD9D%jiggs@mac.com>
Message-ID: <18027211.1040140867@basalt3.lib.bris.ac.uk>

--On 17 December 2002 14:56 +0800 "Jose Angelo P. Abarentos" 
<jiggs@mac.com> wrote:

> That sound's cool. I'll check it out.

I beat you to it - it looks extremely cool. After a bit
of tweaking I have r2net on Windows converting Word
docs with complicated equations to HTML in one fell
swoop. Putting Zope in front of it should not be
a big deal (as it offers a command line interface).

See
<http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/cms/logictran/logictran.html>
and
<http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/cms/logictran/logictran.doc>
for the original.

>
> I actually have found another alternative to MSWordDocument called
> NuxDocument which support othewr formats too.

I found (about a year ago now) that wvWare-based products
couldn't handle graphics/equations very well but things
might have developed a bit. Certainly Open Office 1.0
was able to open the logictran.doc and _almost_ render
it correctly - so NuxDocument and the OO plug-in might
be able to compete with r2net with really horrid Word
files.

>
> I will try this on first and see if it solves my problem.

Let the list know how you get on ....

Paul

>
> Thanks for all who helped!
>
> --
> Angelo
>
>
> On 12/16/02 11:55 PM, "Bryan Capitano" <Bryan@capitanoweb.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have not tried the MSWordDocument product before. That's interesting,
>> thanks for sharing it.
>> I am familiar with a commercial product from Logictran called 'R2NET'.
>> With this software you can easily convert Word (RTF) files to HTML or
>> XHTML or XML. I use the product extensively at the Linux command line.
>> It is easy to use, very powerful and robust. It gives you lots of
>> control over how documents are converted through a translation file
>> which you can customize if you want more custom output.  I think it
>> would be easy to plug into Zope.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From zope@cozydot.com  Tue Dec 17 16:18:35 2002
From: zope@cozydot.com (Yury German)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:18:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope?
In-Reply-To: <200212170019.45933.mpayson@dawgdayz.com>
References: <200212170019.45933.mpayson@dawgdayz.com>
Message-ID: <1862.10.100.100.30.1040141915.squirrel@webmail.technologysecure.com>

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Mike Payson said:
> Just out of curiosity, are there any tools that I should be looking
> at for a  slashdot-like website? I was going to use Squishdot, but
> the project seems  dead. Swishdot sounds promising, but as far as I
> can tell from a Google  search, it doesn't actually exist. Is there
> something else I should be  looking at?
>

Mike,

I have tried every web log system for zope and zope/cmf combination.
Squishdot is descent (But does not work with the new zope yet).
Swishdot is what squishdot will become (when is impossible to tell).
I would say that squishdot is probably the best out of the zope
systems, but it is extremely lacking. If you want to see
implementation of it you can take a look at their site. I think it is
a descent system but it is lacking a lot.

If you are using CMF then you could use plone. Plone is a good system
but there is no real weblog, just news submissions and it will be
impossible to use for anyone who is less then advanced level.

So after looking at everything I am putting out a new site (Jan 1
release date) and then converting the other one I run on squishdot to
Geeklog - http://geeklog.sourceforge.net/. I think that it is the
most robust system of any that I have seen and looked at with a lot
of plugins. What I am planning on doing is using it for the weblog
portion while using a zope back end for the other things on the site.
It is pretty simple to do if you are using apache proxy based where
you can set rewrite rules.  If you have any further questions let me
know!

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         Technology Secure Corporation
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From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Tue Dec 17 16:17:55 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:17:55 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal?
In-Reply-To: <20021216143121.GP14591@remote.lairds.org>
References: <20021216143121.GP14591@remote.lairds.org>
Message-ID: <19034470.1040141875@basalt3.lib.bris.ac.uk>

--On 16 December 2002 09:31 -0500 Kyler Laird 
<kyler-dated-1040578352.848fde@lairds.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:33:18PM -0000, Paul Browning wrote:
>
>
>> I think you can get a powerful framework like Zope +/- CMF to do
>> reproduce uPortal. But you'd have to write the code first.
>
> One of the things I love about Zope is that it allows me to make tools
> for people to reuse as content *providers*.  Universities are strange
> places and I often feel like even within the Zope world, there's
> little understanding of an environment where there are (tens of)
> thousands of potential independent authors.

It's called herding cats ;-)

> But Zope can be made to
> work in this situation.

I agree - it's very flexible.

> Any idea if uPortal lends itself to many
> authors creating content and tools for each other?

Not at present - uPortal is not a CMS. Though CMS
"channels" are on the roadmap. In fact last week
Columbia annouced V1.0 of their uPortal offering
<http://list.unm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0212&L=jasig-portal&F=&S=&P=10666>

This makes me worry though - even in the Java world
it seems like wheel re-invention when there's already
Jahia, JCorporate, Wyona, Cocoon and doubtless others.

> Or does creating
> useful tools require the equivalent of creating External Methods or
> Products in Zope?

Effectively, yes.

>
> BTW, my tendancy right now is to investigate Fle3 and Plone (possibly
> with NeoPortal additions).  I'm also finally jumping in to using
> AbracadabraObjects and PropertyFolders (now that I hacked them to work
> on my installation).  I'm getting more comfortable with being able to
> assert that I can make a reasonable environment for everyone to use -
> not just as consumers, but also as providers.

Sounds like you're having lots of fun. Please keep the
list informed of your progress.

Paul

--
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From juanm_ruiz@yahoo.es  Tue Dec 17 16:38:35 2002
From: juanm_ruiz@yahoo.es (Juan Manuel Ruiz Garcia)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:38:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] local characters and ParsedXML
In-Reply-To: <200212171454.GAA22533@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <DEECJMAIEMDAGFLJNLKKAEGBCCAA.juanm_ruiz@yahoo.es>

hmmm looks complicated (I mean, I need a quick solution)...

maybe using XML Transform to see the modified XML doc?
In fact, what I want is just present/check modified data, I can write it
into the parsedXML doc with this special chars with my Python methods...

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Dennis Allison [mailto:allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU]
Enviado el: martes, 17 de diciembre de 2002 15:55
Para: juanm_ruiz@yahoo.es; zope@zope.org
Asunto: Re: [Zope] local characters and ParsedXML

You might try setting your browser to display UTF-8.

Take a look at the mix-in class, DOMIO, in the ParsedXML source,
MangeableDOM.py.  Internally ParsedXML works in Unicode and evaluates
all entity references to their Unicode equivalent.  When the ParsedXML
renders the text into the <textarea> of the form, it does not recreate
entity references from the internal representation but writes the
character itself in a representation your browser does not understand.

I think the right solution would be to override DOMIO with methods to
recreate entity references from the Unicode source so that only ASCII
characters appear in the <textarea>.

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From wankyu@neoqst.com  Tue Dec 17 16:44:33 2002
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:44:33 +0900
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
In-Reply-To: <BA24A718.152BC%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <003401c2a5eb$a11d6130$ab02c9d3@wankyu>

It's fixed in the CVS. Download the HEAD.

Visit http://www.neoboard.net and click the 'CVS' tab up the screen.

And please use http://www.neoboard.net Collector for issues like this;-)
We dont' want to clutter this mailing list with debugging issues.

ps. setting is_cmf manually won't work, and it's a real bad idea.
there's a reason it's set automatically.

-----Original Message-----
From: george donnelly [mailto:list@zettai.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:04 PM
To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released

there is no traceback (I'm running 2.6.0 and the stock zpt skins from
cmf 1.3).

here is the url: http://www.zettai.net/Forum2/

Can you tell me how to manually enable this in the meantime?

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> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:21:16 +0900
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> Mind telling me which skin causes that error?
> 
> Or just send me the traceback.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: george donnelly [mailto:list@zettai.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM
> To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> 
> hi, i'm pretty sure i followed the install instructions from 
> INSTALL.txt...
> 
> 
> Installing NeoBoard
> 
> o First, make sure you installed NeoPortal Library
> 
> -Did this
> 
> o Untar the package to YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products
> 
> -I installed it in my INSTANCE_HOME
> 
> o The package directory should be called 'NeoBoard': 
> YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products/NeoBoard
> 
> I changed the id of the directory to NeoBoard. The Product loads fine 
> and is not broken.
> 
> o Restart Zope.
> 
> o Zope's ZMI should be displaying the following two products:
> 
> - NeoBoard
> 
> - NeoBoard Skin Folder
> 
> o Add 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' first.
> 
> o Add 'NeoBoard'. 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' must be reachable by 
> 'NeoBoard'.
> 
> o Done.
> 
> Right got all that
> 
> Installing CMFNeoBoard in CMF or Plone site
> 
> o Add an external method with the following attributes:
> 
> - Id : doesn't matter (neoboard_installer, for example)
> 
> - Title: doesn't matter either
> 
> - Module Name: NeoBoard.Install (note it's NeoBoard not
> CMFNeoBoard)
> 
> - Function Name: install
> 
> o Click on the 'Test' tab of the added external method
> 
> Did this and it added the skin and content Type, actions, etc.
> 
> 
> Note that CMFNeoBoard is addable either thru ZMI or CMF/Plone 
> interface.
> 
> I added the CMfNeoBoard instance in question through the CMF 
> interface.
> 
> Is there something I missed?
> 
> OK, I'm adding NeoBoard to a fresh, stock CMF site on the same Zope 
> instance.
> 
> Ran External Method
> 
> 
> Registered CMFNeoBoard with the types tool...
> Added 'neoboard_skins' directory views to portal_skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to Basic skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to No CSS skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to Nouvelle skins
> Added NeoBoard article actions to the actions tool
> 
> 
> adding the CMFNeoBoard and i get the same error
> 
> Error Type: KeyError
> Error Value: is_cmf
> 
> 
> Will manually setting the property via the ZMI on the root of the 
> Neoboard instance fix this? What should it be set to? What type of 
> property should it be?
> 
> <-->
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> Hosting
> - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM:
zettainet
> - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
> 
>> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:32:10 +0900
>> To: <zope@zope.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>> 
>> Take a look at the neoboard_header.pt.
>> 
>> is_cmf is the global variable telling if CMF is installed, that is, 
>> if
> 
>> NeoBoard is being used as  a CMF product.
>> 
>> Make sure you followed the install instructions word by word. You 
>> should get a key error for 'neoboard' if something went wrong, since 
>> that's the first global variable, not 'is_cmf':
>> 
>> <div tal:omit-tag="" 
>> metal:define-macro="neoboard_global_definition_header"
>> tal:define="dummy python: here.checkNeoBoardStatus();
>> global neoboard python: here.getNeoBoard();
>> global is_cmf python: hasattr(neoboard, 'portal_url'); global 
>> is_plone python: hasattr(neoboard, 'plone_utils');
>> 
>> Anyone getting the same error?  I can't reproduce that error.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Wankyu Choi
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> To the dedicated staff at NeoQuest, language is not a problem to be 
>> dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Wankyou Choi
>> CEO/President
>> NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
>> 3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
>> Seoul, Korea
>> Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058
>> Corporate Home: http://www.neoqst.com
>> Personal  Home: http://www.zoper.net, http://www.neoboard.net
>> e-mail:   wankyu@neoqst.com
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of 
>> george donnelly
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:41 AM
>> To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
>> Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>> 
>> 
>> hi, what is the is_cmf variable?
>> 
>> I followed all the install instructions and when i added a neoboard 
>> via the CMF interface i got a key error on this variable. In fact all

>> the actions links give me this error.
>> 
>> Running Zope 2.6.0, CMF 1.3. This is in a CMF 1.3 site, w/out Plone.
>> 
>> thanks for any hints on how to resolve this. :)
>> 
>> <-->
>> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :) Zope 
>> Hosting
>> - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion Yahoo, AIM:
> zettainet
>> - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
>> 
>>> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:13:15 +0900
>>> To: <zope-announce@zope.org>
>>> Subject: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>>> 
>>> I'm pleased to announce that NeoBoard 1.1b has been released.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org 
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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> (Related lists -
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>

From wankyu@neoqst.com  Tue Dec 17 16:46:28 2002
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:46:28 +0900
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
In-Reply-To: <BA24A718.152BC%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <003501c2a5eb$e54be890$ab02c9d3@wankyu>

Oops.. I forgot to tell you which files to download:

NeoBoard/neoboard_skins/neoboard_main.pt
NeoBoard/neoboard_skins/neoboard_header.pt

The CVS does not allow anonymous checkouts or anything like that. You
can only view or download individual files: basically what viewCVS
package allows you to do with any repository.

Regards,
Wankyu Choi
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          to be dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed.
  ---------------------------------------------------------------
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  NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
  3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
  Seoul, Korea
  Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058
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---------------------------------------------------------------  
-----Original Message-----
From: george donnelly [mailto:list@zettai.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 7:04 PM
To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released

there is no traceback (I'm running 2.6.0 and the stock zpt skins from
cmf 1.3).

here is the url: http://www.zettai.net/Forum2/

Can you tell me how to manually enable this in the meantime?

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> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:21:16 +0900
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> Mind telling me which skin causes that error?
> 
> Or just send me the traceback.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: george donnelly [mailto:list@zettai.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:59 PM
> To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> 
> hi, i'm pretty sure i followed the install instructions from 
> INSTALL.txt...
> 
> 
> Installing NeoBoard
> 
> o First, make sure you installed NeoPortal Library
> 
> -Did this
> 
> o Untar the package to YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products
> 
> -I installed it in my INSTANCE_HOME
> 
> o The package directory should be called 'NeoBoard': 
> YOUR_ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Products/NeoBoard
> 
> I changed the id of the directory to NeoBoard. The Product loads fine 
> and is not broken.
> 
> o Restart Zope.
> 
> o Zope's ZMI should be displaying the following two products:
> 
> - NeoBoard
> 
> - NeoBoard Skin Folder
> 
> o Add 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' first.
> 
> o Add 'NeoBoard'. 'NeoBoard Skin Folder' must be reachable by 
> 'NeoBoard'.
> 
> o Done.
> 
> Right got all that
> 
> Installing CMFNeoBoard in CMF or Plone site
> 
> o Add an external method with the following attributes:
> 
> - Id : doesn't matter (neoboard_installer, for example)
> 
> - Title: doesn't matter either
> 
> - Module Name: NeoBoard.Install (note it's NeoBoard not
> CMFNeoBoard)
> 
> - Function Name: install
> 
> o Click on the 'Test' tab of the added external method
> 
> Did this and it added the skin and content Type, actions, etc.
> 
> 
> Note that CMFNeoBoard is addable either thru ZMI or CMF/Plone 
> interface.
> 
> I added the CMfNeoBoard instance in question through the CMF 
> interface.
> 
> Is there something I missed?
> 
> OK, I'm adding NeoBoard to a fresh, stock CMF site on the same Zope 
> instance.
> 
> Ran External Method
> 
> 
> Registered CMFNeoBoard with the types tool...
> Added 'neoboard_skins' directory views to portal_skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to Basic skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to No CSS skins
> Added NeoBoard Skins to Nouvelle skins
> Added NeoBoard article actions to the actions tool
> 
> 
> adding the CMFNeoBoard and i get the same error
> 
> Error Type: KeyError
> Error Value: is_cmf
> 
> 
> Will manually setting the property via the ZMI on the root of the 
> Neoboard instance fix this? What should it be set to? What type of 
> property should it be?
> 
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>> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:32:10 +0900
>> To: <zope@zope.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>> 
>> Take a look at the neoboard_header.pt.
>> 
>> is_cmf is the global variable telling if CMF is installed, that is, 
>> if
> 
>> NeoBoard is being used as  a CMF product.
>> 
>> Make sure you followed the install instructions word by word. You 
>> should get a key error for 'neoboard' if something went wrong, since 
>> that's the first global variable, not 'is_cmf':
>> 
>> <div tal:omit-tag="" 
>> metal:define-macro="neoboard_global_definition_header"
>> tal:define="dummy python: here.checkNeoBoardStatus();
>> global neoboard python: here.getNeoBoard();
>> global is_cmf python: hasattr(neoboard, 'portal_url'); global 
>> is_plone python: hasattr(neoboard, 'plone_utils');
>> 
>> Anyone getting the same error?  I can't reproduce that error.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Wankyu Choi
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> To the dedicated staff at NeoQuest, language is not a problem to be 
>> dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> Wankyou Choi
>> CEO/President
>> NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
>> 3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
>> Seoul, Korea
>> Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058
>> Corporate Home: http://www.neoqst.com
>> Personal  Home: http://www.zoper.net, http://www.neoboard.net
>> e-mail:   wankyu@neoqst.com
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of 
>> george donnelly
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:41 AM
>> To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
>> Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
>> 
>> 
>> hi, what is the is_cmf variable?
>> 
>> I followed all the install instructions and when i added a neoboard 
>> via the CMF interface i got a key error on this variable. In fact all

From casey@zope.com  Tue Dec 17 17:42:36 2002
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:42:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request
In-Reply-To: <02685490-1156-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu>
References: <02685490-1156-11D7-AF36-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu>
Message-ID: <200212171242.36094.casey@zope.com>

Did you try:

not noindex

hth,

-Casey

On Monday 16 December 2002 07:25 pm, Kamal Gill wrote:
> > not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
>=20
> I'm afraid this did not work for me.  There are no error messages=20
> returned, but there are no items added to the catalog as there should=20
> be.
> Any other ideas?
>=20
>=20
> On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 03:30  PM, Maik Jablonski wrote:
>=20
> > Kamal Gill wrote:
> >>> not this().getProperty('noindex')
> >> This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping to=
=20
> >> ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains a=20
> >> 'noindex' property.
> >
> > Ok, I didn't got your problem. Next try...:) You'll have to use=20
> > acquisition:
> >
> > not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
> >
> > this one should do the magic you'll need...
> >
> > -mj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -=20
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>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>=20

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Dec 17 17:45:27 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:45:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Printing within DTML
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9700DE9@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9700DE9@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <atno80$3hs$1@main.gmane.org>

McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have created an online form that people are using. One form the user
> inputs the header information (name, address, etc.) and generates a record
> number. The next set of forms allows the user to put in detail information
> and there can be multiple line items per header record. They can see the
> single line item of information on the screen and can print (using the web
> browser printer). Is there a way, through a form/method, where the user can
> put in the record number and all associated line items print to their
> default printer?
> 
> I understand how to do the calls to retrieve the information but I am a
> little fussy on how to send the css type output to a printer. Thanks in
> advance

Hi,

this problem has nothing to do with ZOPE...[or do you want to print on a 
printer connected to your Server?] :) It's simply a JavaScript-Issue... 
Have a look at:

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/other1.htm

Cheers, Maik

From list@zettai.net  Tue Dec 17 13:01:26 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:01:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope?
In-Reply-To: <1862.10.100.100.30.1040141915.squirrel@webmail.technologysecure.com>
Message-ID: <BA24D0A6.1531E%list@zettai.net>

actually stock CMF can be used to create a decent weblog and additional
features can be programmed in in Python. For weblog functionality, plone
does not give you really anything more than CMF, does it?

also, ZWiki + BlogFace can give you a decent wiki with mailin and out among
other things.

and one does not need to be advanced to customize CMF or Plone. You can do a
lot TTW.

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> From: "Yury German" <zope@cozydot.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:18:35 -0500 (EST)
> To: <mpayson@dawgdayz.com>
> Cc: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope?
> 
> If you are using CMF then you could use plone. Plone is a good system
> but there is no real weblog, just news submissions and it will be
> impossible to use for anyone who is less then advanced level.

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Dec 17 18:05:03 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:05:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: CatalogPathAwareness and manage_beforeDelete
In-Reply-To: <200212171812.05189.kedai@kedai.com.my>
References: <200212171812.05189.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <atnpco$98q$1@main.gmane.org>

Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote:
> hello all
> i have a product that subclass CatalogPathAwareness and SimpleItem all works 
> ok.  i,e an object instance will be added and deleted from the catalog
> 
> however, if i override manage_beforeDelete, the catalog is not cleared when i 
> delete the object instance
> 
> is that natural?  do i have to supply my own uncatalog_object ?
> 
> with this snippet, it still doesnt work.  i guess i don't get what uid for 
> uncatalog_object is ...
> 
> here's the snippet
> 
>         def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container):
>                 """method for delete /cut/paste/rename"""
>                 img_dir = getattr(self.aq_parent, 'images')
>                 img_dir.manage_delObjects([item.getId()+'_image'])
>                 self.uncatalog_object(item.absolute_url(1))
>

Hi,

just a guess: Maybe you should unindex your object first and then delete 
it... and another one: please try unindex_object instead of 
uncatalog_object:

def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container):
                  """method for delete /cut/paste/rename"""
                  img_dir = getattr(self.aq_parent, 'images')
                  self.unindex_object()
                  img_dir.manage_delObjects([item.getId()+'_image'])

-mj

From jmruiz@it.uc3m.es  Tue Dec 17 18:39:53 2002
From: jmruiz@it.uc3m.es (=?US-ASCII?Q?Juan_Manuel_Ruiz_Garcia?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:39:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Not logging Exceptions
In-Reply-To: <3DFF3AFD.2010006@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <DEECJMAIEMDAGFLJNLKKMEGBCCAA.jmruiz@it.uc3m.es>

no, i didnt... now I've found theres one error_log in the container I was
working, not only in the root... I have not created it, I mean, I don't know
when or how I created it... so... how can be done?

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com]
Enviado el: martes, 17 de diciembre de 2002 15:56
Para: Juan Manuel Ruiz Garcia
CC: zope@zope.org
Asunto: Re: [Zope] Not logging Exceptions

Juan Manuel Ruiz Garcia wrote:
>
> My Zope System has stopped logging exceptions to error_log... I've
> restarted, but it didn't work
> Everything was going ok, bu5t suddenly it stopped logging.

Have you added anything in the "Ignored exception types" box?

> Also, I want to remove all the undo info and I have read about 'pack'
it...
> how can that be done?

Control Panel --> Database Management --> Click the 'Pack' button...

cheers,

Chris

From gill@library.ucsf.edu  Tue Dec 17 18:56:26 2002
From: gill@library.ucsf.edu (Kamal Gill)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:56:26 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request
In-Reply-To: <200212171242.36094.casey@zope.com>
Message-ID: <3EBF8C98-11F1-11D7-AD1F-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu>

Casey,

"not noindex" appears to only index objects that have a noindex 
property set as false.  What I need is an expression that will not 
index objects that have a noindex property set as true.  Objects that 
have the noindex property set as false *and* objects that do not have a 
noindex property should be indexed.

This is the sort of rule I need...

Filename		Properties		Index?
file1.html		noindex=true		no
file2.html		noindex=false	yes
file3.html		(none)			yes

- Kamal

On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 09:42  AM, Casey Duncan wrote:

> Did you try:
>
> not noindex
>
> hth,
>
> -Casey
>
> On Monday 16 December 2002 07:25 pm, Kamal Gill wrote:
>>> not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
>>
>> I'm afraid this did not work for me.  There are no error messages
>> returned, but there are no items added to the catalog as there should
>> be.
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 03:30  PM, Maik Jablonski wrote:
>>
>>> Kamal Gill wrote:
>>>>> not this().getProperty('noindex')
>>>> This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping to
>>>> ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains a
>>>> 'noindex' property.
>>>
>>> Ok, I didn't got your problem. Next try...:) You'll have to use
>>> acquisition:
>>>
>>> not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
>>>
>>> this one should do the magic you'll need...
>>>
>>> -mj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>

From casey@zope.com  Tue Dec 17 19:11:12 2002
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:11:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request
In-Reply-To: <3EBF8C98-11F1-11D7-AD1F-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu>
References: <3EBF8C98-11F1-11D7-AD1F-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu>
Message-ID: <200212171411.12771.casey@zope.com>

Then:

_.has_key('noindex') and not noindex or 0

Alternately you can set a boolean noindex property in the root folder to =
false=20
and use the previous expression.

hth,

-Casey

On Tuesday 17 December 2002 01:56 pm, Kamal Gill wrote:
> Casey,
>=20
> "not noindex" appears to only index objects that have a noindex=20
> property set as false.  What I need is an expression that will not=20
> index objects that have a noindex property set as true.  Objects that=20
> have the noindex property set as false *and* objects that do not have a=
=20
> noindex property should be indexed.
>=20
> This is the sort of rule I need...
>=20
> Filename=09=09Properties=09=09Index?
> file1.html=09=09noindex=3Dtrue=09=09no
> file2.html=09=09noindex=3Dfalse=09yes
> file3.html=09=09(none)=09=09=09yes
>=20
>   - Kamal
>=20
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 09:42  AM, Casey Duncan wrote:
>=20
> > Did you try:
> >
> > not noindex
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > -Casey
> >
> > On Monday 16 December 2002 07:25 pm, Kamal Gill wrote:
> >>> not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
> >>
> >> I'm afraid this did not work for me.  There are no error messages
> >> returned, but there are no items added to the catalog as there shoul=
d
> >> be.
> >> Any other ideas?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 03:30  PM, Maik Jablonski wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kamal Gill wrote:
> >>>>> not this().getProperty('noindex')
> >>>> This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping =
to
> >>>> ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains =
a
> >>>> 'noindex' property.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, I didn't got your problem. Next try...:) You'll have to use
> >>> acquisition:
> >>>
> >>> not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
> >>>
> >>> this one should do the magic you'll need...
> >>>
> >>> -mj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> >>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> >>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announ=
ce
> >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> >> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> >> (Related lists -
> >>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> >>
> >
>=20
>=20

From list@zettai.net  Tue Dec 17 14:17:08 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:17:08 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
In-Reply-To: <003501c2a5eb$e54be890$ab02c9d3@wankyu>
Message-ID: <BA24E264.15347%list@zettai.net>

ok, i'm at

http://cvs.zoper.net:8080/CVS/viewcvs.cgi/NeoBoard/neoboard_skins/

and i do not see the files neoboard_main.pt or neoboard_header.pt. I don't
see them in the subfolders either.

ah hah, is this the path?

http://cvs.zoper.net:8080/CVS/viewcvs.cgi/NeoBoard/neoboard_skins/default/te
mplates/?only_with_tag=HEAD

ok, installed the new skin PT's, restarted zope and installed neoboard on a
fresh stock cmf 1.3 install and i get a NameError: global name 'neoboard' is
not defined.

I'll file it in your newfound collector. ;)

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> From: "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:46:28 +0900
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] NeoBoard 1.1b has been released
> 
> Oops.. I forgot to tell you which files to download:
> 
> NeoBoard/neoboard_skins/neoboard_main.pt
> NeoBoard/neoboard_skins/neoboard_header.pt
> 
> The CVS does not allow anonymous checkouts or anything like that. You
> can only view or download individual files: basically what viewCVS
> package allows you to do with any repository.

From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Tue Dec 17 19:12:11 2002
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:12:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] RE: Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
In-Reply-To: <20021217162102.5745.87799.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021217200731.00a7ac08@mail.club-internet.fr>

At 11:21 17/12/2002 -0500, "Wankyu Choi" <wankyu@neoqst.com> wrote:
>I don't consider myself an *ex*-PHP developer, but just wanted to share
>my thoughts.

Thx a bunch Wankyu for sharing you thoughts on PHP vs. Zope. As a matter of 
fact, I'm playing with PHP + FastTemplate + MySQL, and it looks 
interesting. I still need more about what Zope would offer in addition to this.

To sum up what you wrote:
Pro's
- Zope makes it easier to separate logic and presentation : honestly, I 
don't see the difference between PHP scripts outsourcing display to 
templates and Zope + DTML/ZPT
- Python is truly OOP : What is missing in PHP4? Multiple inheritance?

Con's
- there are a lot more PHP developers than Zope developers, hence more docs 
and more help in case of need
- Zope uses its own DB instead of a filesystem. But then, nobody complains 
when data are saved in other DBMS's, so why do they complain about ZODB?
- ZPT is a bit slow, but maybe as slow as PHP and some templating engines

Thx again
Fred.

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Tue Dec 17 19:26:09 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:26:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal?
In-Reply-To: <20021215174851.GK3851@remote.lairds.org>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEMFIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Kyler,

Just to add some additional thoughts on Zope...

Prior to working with Zope/CMF I worked with three other Portal products:
Plumtree, Epicentric, and Intraspect.  Each of these were more usable out of
the box, but a lot less flexible than Zope/CMF and therefore less usable in
the long term.  I would pick Zope/CMF over any of the other products now
that I have made a moderate ascent of the learning curve.

One thing to keep in mind about CMF is that what you get out of the box is
essentially a large example, IMHO.  When we set out to build a portal on top
of CMF, the last thing I wanted to do was retrofit the existing skins with a
new look and new functionality.  It is better to understand the architecture
of CMF and then build skins that utilize that toolset.

Plone is definitely an alternative as are some of the others you have seen
mentioned in this thread.  But if you want to use CMF, first understand the
underlying tools and what they help you accomplish -- then build your
portal.

Another comment on the other products:  Yes, they are more usable out of the
box.  But by the time we were done gathering requirements for a portal based
on any of these products, we were left with a massive customization job
anyway.  Because of this, I'd much rather begin with a product that has
flexibility in mind than a product that offers quick implementation at the
expense of long-term flexibility.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Kyler
Laird
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 12:49 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Does Zope stack up as a portal?

This is going to be a horribly-formed request, but I'm looking for some
guidance on evaluating a product being pitched.  The product is UNICON
Academus.
	http://www.unicon.net/academus/products/overview.html

It's based on uPortal
	http://mis105.mis.udel.edu/ja-sig/uportal/
a "free, sharable portal under development by institutions of higher-
education."  UNICON's offerings appear to be closed and, at least for
the authoring tool, MS Windows-only.

I want Free tools.  uPortal is better than something like Blackboard,
but it still has some severe limitations due to its licensing.  I'm
wondering if I can confidently say that Zope can readily perform the
same functions.

I like using Zope for most everything these days, but every time I go
to battle against CMF, I come away ready to continue using other
methods for awhile.  I suspect that CMF is what I would need to use to
get uPortal/Academus-type functionality without starting from scratch.

So...any opinions?  I'm looking for comments like "Zope can't touch
Academus without a *lot* of work" or "Oh, yeah, just fight through CMF
and you're almost there."  Specifics would be great, but I'll be happy
just to get some insight.  (If there's something besides CMF that can
handle this role, I'll be especially interested.)

Of course, I'd also be happy to receive offers to provide Academus-like
functionality in Zope using Free software for a price on the order of
that of Academus.  (I don't know how much they charge yet, but I will
soon.)

Thank you.

--kyler

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From gill@library.ucsf.edu  Tue Dec 17 19:37:11 2002
From: gill@library.ucsf.edu (Kamal Gill)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:37:11 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZCatalog indexing help request
In-Reply-To: <200212171411.12771.casey@zope.com>
Message-ID: <EFB7FA33-11F6-11D7-AD1F-000393B89464@library.ucsf.edu>

Fantastic--that did the trick.  Thanks for your help.
   - Kamal

On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 11:11  AM, Casey Duncan wrote:

> Then:
>
> _.has_key('noindex') and not noindex or 0
>
> Alternately you can set a boolean noindex property in the root folder 
> to false
> and use the previous expression.
>
> hth,
>
> -Casey
>
> On Tuesday 17 December 2002 01:56 pm, Kamal Gill wrote:
>> Casey,
>>
>> "not noindex" appears to only index objects that have a noindex
>> property set as false.  What I need is an expression that will not
>> index objects that have a noindex property set as true.  Objects that
>> have the noindex property set as false *and* objects that do not have 
>> a
>> noindex property should be indexed.
>>
>> This is the sort of rule I need...
>>
>> Filename		Properties		Index?
>> file1.html		noindex=true		no
>> file2.html		noindex=false	yes
>> file3.html		(none)			yes
>>
>>   - Kamal
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 09:42  AM, Casey Duncan wrote:
>>
>>> Did you try:
>>>
>>> not noindex
>>>
>>> hth,
>>>
>>> -Casey
>>>
>>> On Monday 16 December 2002 07:25 pm, Kamal Gill wrote:
>>>>> not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid this did not work for me.  There are no error messages
>>>> returned, but there are no items added to the catalog as there 
>>>> should
>>>> be.
>>>> Any other ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 03:30  PM, Maik Jablonski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kamal Gill wrote:
>>>>>>> not this().getProperty('noindex')
>>>>>> This works for individual page template objects, but I was hoping 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> ignore collections of objects contained in a folder that contains 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 'noindex' property.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I didn't got your problem. Next try...:) You'll have to use
>>>>> acquisition:
>>>>>
>>>>> not getattr(_.this(),'noindex')
>>>>>
>>>>> this one should do the magic you'll need...
>>>>>
>>>>> -mj
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>

From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Dec 17 19:50:43 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:50:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] RE: Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20021217200731.00a7ac08@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <002e01c2a605$b94af5a0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: "Frederic Faure" <ffaure@bigfoot.com>
> - Python is truly OOP : What is missing in PHP4? Multiple inheritance?

Well, yes, but mostly an object store.

> - Zope uses its own DB instead of a filesystem. But then, nobody complains
> when data are saved in other DBMS's, so why do they complain about ZODB?

This is actually a pro, not a con. :-)
The fact that that DB is also file based, and doesn't require you to set up
an SQL-database is another pro.

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 17 19:59:32 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:59:32 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Strip-o-Gram 1.3 Released!
Message-ID: <3DFF8224.5090103@nipltd.com>

Strip-o-Gram is an HTML Conversion Library that can convert HTML to Plain Text 
and strip specified tags and Javascript from HTML.

See http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/StripOGram for more details.

This release includes several bug fixes and some new features and will allow the 
methods to be used from Zope's Script (Python)'s once 
http://collector.zope.org/Zope/685 has been resolved.

cheers,

Chris

From ed@leafe.com  Tue Dec 17 19:59:57 2002
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:59:57 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
Message-ID: <1E62E8C4-11FA-11D7-A9D8-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

I'm fairly new to Zope, and am looking for a Product to use on my site 
for displaying photos. These are mostly personal photos, so I don't 
have any special needs; just something that will display an index and 
basic navigation.

I've googled around, and there seem to be a few products out there, 
but the ones I've found don't seem to be supported anymore. Any 
recommendations?

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From guilbaultf@em.agr.ca  Tue Dec 17 20:04:17 2002
From: guilbaultf@em.agr.ca (Francoise Guilbault)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:04:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] zope error<200>
Message-ID: <3DFF8341.3060900@em.agr.ca>

Platform: W2K
I installed localizer in the products sub-dir and started up the zserver 
and got the following error:
Zope could not import Products.Localizer Traceback <innermost last>:
Module OFS.application, line 541, in import_product
Module Products.Localizer, line 290, in ?
Module App.ImageFile, line 44, in __init__
IOError: [Errno 21] No such file or directory: xxxx\\xxxxx\\xxxxx......

Any clues would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

frankie
guilbaultf@agr.gc.ca

From list@zettai.net  Tue Dec 17 15:45:10 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:45:10 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <1E62E8C4-11FA-11D7-A9D8-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <BA24F706.15373%list@zettai.net>

here are a couple:

http://www.zope.org/Members/rbickers/Photo

http://www.zope.org/Members/p3b/ZPhotoSlides

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> From: Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:59:57 -0500
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
> 
> I'm fairly new to Zope, and am looking for a Product to use on my site
> for displaying photos. These are mostly personal photos, so I don't
> have any special needs; just something that will display an index and
> basic navigation.
> 
> I've googled around, and there seem to be a few products out there,
> but the ones I've found don't seem to be supported anymore. Any
> recommendations?

From mngibso@excite.com  Tue Dec 17 20:50:29 2002
From: mngibso@excite.com (Mark Gibsonz)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:50:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Upgrading zope
Message-ID: <20021217205029.88FE23DCA@xmxpita.excite.com>

I have a client working on zope 2.3.3.  What are the advantages to upgrading zope to the latest version?
It's likely to be a big job, how can I justify this?  What are the risks to upgrading?

Thanks,
Mark

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From wankyu@neoqst.com  Tue Dec 17 21:04:39 2002
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 06:04:39 +0900
Subject: [Zope] RE: Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20021217200731.00a7ac08@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <000601c2a60f$e9a8f6c0$515632da@wankyu>

>Thx a bunch Wankyu for sharing you thoughts on PHP vs. Zope. As a
matter of 
>fact, I'm playing with PHP + FastTemplate + MySQL, and it looks 
>interesting. I still need more about what Zope would offer in addition
to this.

Okay, just trust me on this one: a lot, just WHOLE LOT more. That much I
can say. Don't judge anything until you REALLY get your hands dirty with
Zope.

A bit of my experince will speak volume. I started this set of projects
(re-doing millions of PHP code; three-to-four years 24/7 worth of work)
a year ago. First, of course, in PHP. Tried PHPNuke/PostNuke...didn't
like them that much. Started building my own: NeoPortal. One day, just
stumbled upon this Zope thing they were talking about. It was not love
at first sight. I really didn't like Zope that much the first time I met
it. BUT loved how Python worked. Yes, I took up Python. Didn't know
beans about the language before then. Bought a book titled 'Web
Programming in Python': a great well-written book on web
developing/template engines, etc. It even got its own Portal project
(named Slither). Guess what? I immediately took to the idea and started
extending it. A month or so passed by. Again, I came to see Zope in an
article. Okay, I thought, I might learn a thing or two from it.... Spent
a week or so playing with Zope. I didn't get back to Slither. I came to
live with Zope. Why reinvent the wheel?

You need to get your hands dirty first. Zope doesn't look enticing at
first sight. You have to look INTO it and get soaked in it to really
feel what it's like working in Zope.

>Pro's
>- Zope makes it easier to separate logic and presentation : honestly, I

>don't see the difference between PHP scripts outsourcing display to 
>templates and Zope + DTML/ZPT

Again... BIG difference I should say. You don't get the hang of what
Zope and its power tools like DTML/ZPT can do for you unless you really
get to them.

Zope is an application server. Not just a template engine. For example,
you'd have to spend months to get the likes of Zope's
acquisition/security machinery. That alone, I don't want to use any
other tool when developing web application. Take NeoBoard again for
example. That threaded look, I pulled my hair to implement it in PHP. In
Zope, I didn't even try. Acquision machinery/ZPublisher did all the
work.

>- Python is truly OOP : What is missing in PHP4? Multiple inheritance?

Half of what any good OOP introduction book would say... is missing from
PHP4. But, if you don't feel what's missing, that means you don't need
them anyway;-)

And Zope objects are persistent. You don't get that from PHP. Just
imagine you create an object and that object comes with its own
persistent database. What a boon. I don't even use session variables
anymore.

>Con's
>- there are a lot more PHP developers than Zope developers, hence more
docs 
>and more help in case of need

Yes. It's like when I switched over to PHP from Perl back in 1997 to
1998, when no more than a couple of books were on the market (with
dubious quality at that.)

With Zope... well.. doc strings in Zope code are my best resources
now;-&

> Zope uses its own DB instead of a filesystem. But then, nobody
complains 
>when data are saved in other DBMS's, so why do they complain about
ZODB?
>- ZPT is a bit slow, but maybe as slow as PHP and some templating
engines

Like I already mentioned, ZODB, in itself, is a good thing. But it's not
a database you normally see. Not an RDBMS like MySQL. You don't put your
files and images into MySQL tables, for example. ZODB is supposed to
take them all. The whole site goes into ZODB: db + filesystem, sort of.
There are a couple of ways out like LocalFS and its likes, but basically
that's what you do with ZODB.

The stock ZODB that comes with ZOPE puts everything in one single file
(called file storage). It gets bigger and bigger as you add data. You
can't incrementally back it up. Zope supports versions. You create a
counter and it bloats it up since ZODB stores all of your counter
object's previous versions until you pack it away.

That portal project I mentioned above... I have too many users now with
their data in MySQL, on the filesystem... all that data adds up to
dozens of giga bytes. I don't think I want to put all that data (and
their duplicate versions) into this ZODB file storage until I get a more
flexible storage like directory storage.

Again, what counts is your priorities. If you don't need what Zope
offers, you might want to stay with AMP.

Finally, as any good language or platform, you get what you give with
Zope. (But once you get there, you don't wanna get back;-)

Best Regards,
Wankyu Choi
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From chrisabraham@yahoo.com  Tue Dec 17 21:22:36 2002
From: chrisabraham@yahoo.com (Chris Abraham)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:22:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Weblogs on Zope?
References: <BA24D0A6.1531E%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <013b01c2a612$6c8d0ac0$d01e030a@dc.magnet.com>

Well, Weblogging and Nuking are two killer apps that everyone wants to use
and everyone can use out of the box -- what I recommend is going over to
ZopeZen to get their CMF interface -- it will allow you a very
Nuke/Slashdot/Weblog-looking solution -- and its pretty dead sexy as well --
a much more "compatible" CMF skin than Plone (works with NLADA Document
Library, etc, right out of the box last time I checked).

http://www.zopezen.org/Members/zopista/About

Tarball:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55262&release_id=11383
3

CVS:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/collective/ZopeZen/

When you install it on top of the CMF, your site will look just like this:
http://www.zopezen.org

Cheers,

Chris

> actually stock CMF can be used to create a decent weblog and additional
> features can be programmed in in Python. For weblog functionality, plone
> does not give you really anything more than CMF, does it?
> > If you are using CMF then you could use plone. Plone is a good system
> > but there is no real weblog, just news submissions and it will be
> > impossible to use for anyone who is less then advanced level.

From bz@bwanazulia.com  Tue Dec 17 21:29:42 2002
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:29:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Upgrading zope
In-Reply-To: <20021217205029.88FE23DCA@xmxpita.excite.com>
References: <20021217205029.88FE23DCA@xmxpita.excite.com>
Message-ID: <51579.199.67.140.20.1040160582.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Speed. Stability. Features. Security.

I personally upgrade every couple of releases (2.5.1 ---> 2.6.1) but I
wait for the .0.1 release.

I have found that staying a few releases behind better for stability but
if you stay too many behind, you will get caught in a huge upgrade path.

>
>
>
> I have a client working on zope 2.3.3.  What are the advantages to
> upgrading zope to the latest version? It's likely to be a big job, how
> can I justify this?  What are the risks to upgrading?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
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From ken@cleveland.lug.net  Tue Dec 17 21:41:37 2002
From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:41:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope won't start: "module ZODB.cPersistence not loaded"
In-Reply-To: <200212160052.13431.mpayson@dawgdayz.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171638370.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net>

See <http://www.zope.org/Members/dingo/Zope_RPMS>, especially if you're 
running redhat.

ken

Mike Payson at 00:52 (UTC-0800) on Mon, 16 Dec 2002 said:

= I've just installed Zope, but I can't get it to start. I get the following 
= error:
= 
= bash-2.05$ ./start
= /usr/home/mpayson/Zope-2.6.0-src/z2.py:378: UserWarning: You are running 
= Python version 2.1.1.  This Python version has known bugs that may cause Zope 
= to run improperly. Consider upgrading to a Python in the 2.1 series with at 
= least version number 2.1.3.  (Note that Zope does not yet run under any 
= Python 2.2 version).
=   warnings.warn(err)
= ------
= 2002-12-16T07:48:47 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 27298
= /usr/home/mpayson/Zope-2.6.0-src/z2.py:378: UserWarning: You are running 
= Python version 2.1.1.  This Python version has known bugs that may cause Zope 
= to run improperly. Consider upgrading to a Python in the 2.1 series with at 
= least version number 2.1.3.  (Note that Zope does not yet run under any 
= Python 2.2 version).
=   warnings.warn(err)
= ------
= 2002-12-16T07:48:47 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception
= Traceback (innermost last):
=   Module __main__, line 580, in ?
=   Module <string>, line 1, in ?
=   Module Zope, line 21, in ?
=   Module ZODB, line 15, in ?
= SystemError: _PyImport_FixupExtension: module ZODB.cPersistence not loaded
= 
= 
= Clearly, I need to upgrade Python, but I'm assuming that's not the origin of 
= the error. Any suggestions?
= 
= Thanks in advance!
= 
=

From bz@bwanazulia.com  Tue Dec 17 21:47:22 2002
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:47:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope
In-Reply-To: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E36@exchange.spc.nl>
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E36@exchange.spc.nl>
Message-ID: <58446.199.67.140.20.1040161642.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

(a ton of people on this topic, but hey, more is better)

1. Object Orientation
> In which ways is the language object oriented en which things are
> missing from the language.

Totally 100%. It gets real good when you think of web pages and folders as
objects.

> 4. Support
>
> How / howfar is the development platform used by developers.
> Is there a good knowledge base / FAQ's available.
> Are there good / many  newsgroups available... ( Hmmmm, depend on
> response to this message  ;-) )

There is a ton of information. Almost always an answer to your question,
you just have to go to the big three. 1) Google. 2) Zope.org 3) This list.

> 5. 3th party support
> Are there extentional development tools available.
> What kind of engines are available. ( python / zope )
> Are extra components available. If so, which. ( yeah yeah, Zope product
> database is one)

You can use a host of tools available to edit zope code (python). If you
are talking products, the Zope product database it is the best. If you
need more try the big three (above).

> 6. Cost
>  > What do the essential development tools cost.
> What are the costs to commercially use the development platform.

$0 + $0 = $0. Hardware and people are your cost. It runs real well on very
low end hardware and can scale really well with ZEO if you need it to. The
best example of scale I know of is http://www.cbsnewyork.com (48 linux
servers).

> 7. Userfriendly
> > How good is the development platform.
> Are all tools needed available.
> Is the platform intuitive to use.

I am not sure I agree with everyone here, but Zope is good in the begining
and the end. In the begining to start using it, it is very easy. You have
methods, dtml, html, versions, ftp. All easy stuff. When you are a pro,
Zope is also very easy to bring a concept to reality. I think the toughest
part is the middle ground, where you know enough to know about objects,
python, products, but no real programming background (sadly, this is where
I am). I can still do a ton, but some of the more "prgramming 201"
concepts are tough.

> 8. Distribution
> What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to
> answer.. zope ??)

Server (boxen), OS (Windows, Unix, MacOSX, Solaris?) and some connection
to the interner. I started building and hosting on 300 MHz pentiums with
64 MB or Ram off of a 384 K SDSL line and have moved up to 1 Ghz Athalons
with 512MB ram on OC3. Zope is no speed demon but it is doing SO much it
is amazing how fast it is. It also responds well to Mhz and Ram as well as
caching. Again, Zope can scale as far as you want it to go.

>
> 10. Developer value
> What is the value of a developer having good knowledge of the platform
> on the jobmarket.

Getting better. Good OO knowledge works anywhere and going from Java ->
Python -> Java is not supposed to be hard.

Hope this helps. I had to convince my old company (dotbomb) to go Zope
over Vignette. It took hours of work, papers and in the end, I just spend
a weekend and built a very working prototype of something that has been
built in .asp in about 6 weeks. I got to do one site in Zope and another
and another. They were always impressed with what it could do but weary of
the support and "freeness". Hopefully that has changed in the market now
for smaller companies. Amazing what happens when you don't have a million
dollars to spend.

From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Dec 17 22:11:41 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:11:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Upgrading zope
References: <20021217205029.88FE23DCA@xmxpita.excite.com>
Message-ID: <007501c2a61a$b0b3d050$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: "Mark Gibsonz" <mngibso@excite.com>
> I have a client working on zope 2.3.3.  What are the
> advantages to upgrading zope to the latest version?

Less bugs, lot's of new neat features?

> It's likely to be a big job, how can I justify this?

Just read through the doc/CHANGES.txt and see what's in there that could be
good for your client.

If you have many custom Python products, there will be some work in porting
them. The biggest things are the move from Python 1.5.2 to 2.x which gives
you some changes, and the Catalogs have changed quite a lot.

I don't use ZClasses, so I don't know how complicated they are to upgrade.
I've heard both that there is some work involved and that there is no work
involved.

> What are the risks to upgrading?

None, except that it may take longer than you expect. But it can go faster
too.

From ken@cleveland.lug.net  Tue Dec 17 22:28:45 2002
From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:28:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Considerations using Zope
In-Reply-To: <20021216161738.GC14854@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171724260.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net>

I'd echo Paul's comment under question #7 and copy it under question #4.  
That is to say, the documentation leaves something to be desired, 
especially for those wishing to run zope with apache and postgresql (the 
way, I've been told, to implement a robust server).

My $0.02,
ken

Paul Winkler at 08:17 (UTC-0800) on Mon, 16 Dec 2002 said:

= On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:38:44PM +0100, Dani?l Hooymans wrote:
= > 1. Object Orientation
= >  
= > In which ways is the language object oriented en which things are missing from the language.
= 
= python is fully object-oriented... i'll leave the details to the 
= language lawyers. We don't really have interfaces currently.
= 
= > 2. Server and client objects.
= >  
= > To what extend is it possible to define and use client side objects aside from server components. e.g. Possibility to include/use special tags which automagically instantiate the correct custom control objects.
= 
= there's no automagic for this in zope that I know of.
=   
= > 3. Framework
= >  
= > How diverse is the default library of Objects and methods. (Guess this is more a python thing besides the use of products)
= 
= well, you can't discount the huge number of Products available...
= aside from that, the python standard library is excellent, after 3-4
= years I'm still finding new stuff there.
= 
= if that's not enough, there's all the nice powerful 3rd-party libs
= like mxDateTime, PIL, NumPy, and Reportlab, all the other stuff
= at the Vaults of Parnassus, and nice resources 
= like the ASPN cookbook.
= 
= > 4. Support
= >  
= > How / howfar is the development platform used by developers.
= > Is there a good knowledge base / FAQ's available.
= > Are there good / many  newsgroups available... ( Hmmmm, depend on response to this message  ;-) ) 
= 
= this list is excellent, #zope on irc is good, there are also lists for
= more specific sub-communities (plone, tal, etc.)
= 
= > 5. 3th party support
= >  
= > Are there extentional development tools available.
= 
= "extentional"? hmm.  well there are tools to help zope
= work with other tools - e.g. ExternalEditor, and
= various hacks for dealing with CVS.
= 
= 
= > What kind of engines are available. ( python / zope )
= 
= engines?
= 
= > Are extra components available. If so, which. ( yeah yeah, Zope product database is one)
= 
= some big ones: CMF, Plone, Nuxeo CPS ...
= too many others to mention.
= 
= > 6. Cost
= >  
= > What do the essential development tools cost.
= > What are the costs to commercially use the development platform.
= 
= NOTHING!
=   
= > 7. Userfriendly
= >  
= > How good is the development platform.
= > Are all tools needed available.
= > Is the platform intuitive to use.
= 
= the famous zope learning curve is an issue ...
= it's quite easy to get through the tutorial and
= start putting things together. It can take months
= or years to grok the advanced stuff. Then you
= can do anything. :) Partly it's a documentation problem.
=   
= > 8. Distribution
= >  
= > What is needed to host a website using the platform. (no need to answer.. zope ??)
= 
= yes, but zserver is not generally considered robust enough for
= deploying "bare" on the internet. It is normal to put it behind something -  
= apache, squid...
=   
= > 9. XML Support
= >  
= > Which tools are available.
= 
= plenty of stuff in the python standard lib.
= also zope supports xmlrpc.
=   
= > 10. Developer value
= >  
= > What is the value of a developer having good knowledge of the platform on the jobmarket.
= 
= well, there don't seem to be so many zope jobs around... but
= there are correspondingly fewer zope developers to fill them.
= It can be hard to find the right opportunity. But e.g.
= at my current job I was hired solely because of my zope experience.
=   
= > [11]. What are other pros/cons using Zope / Python as development platform.
= > ==================================
= 
= integration with filesystem devel. tools (revision control etc.)
= is still problematic.
= 
= scalability of zope is very cool. With ZEO and the various
= cacheing strategies, you can serve a LOT of requests and keep building
= up with very little work.
= 
=

From ed@greengraphics.net  Wed Dec 18 07:00:28 2002
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:00:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] swocket integration
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0212172253180.17121-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

I remember seeing a post about someone trying to use swocket with zope...

Just searched the archives, no luck...

Has anyone been playing with this?

If not, any ideas if it would work ok?

If I start the swocketserver from within a zope product, I should have
access to self. and inheritance and all that from within swocket?

Sounds like it would be a cool little add on, and it sure would make
persistant connections easy. (from within flash at least)

With XML-RPC for flash coming along, and a socket server, it could make
zope a lethal alternative to the macromedia proprietary product.

Any ideas?

-ed-

-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000

From ken@cleveland.lug.net  Tue Dec 17 23:22:29 2002
From: ken@cleveland.lug.net (ken)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:22:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Password function to manager screen broke?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171819570.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net>

Zope folks,

Several times now I've tried to get into the manager screen from the 
zope home page (both http://localhost.localdomain and the actual 
hostname.domain of this box) without any luck.

I tried the user & passwd given after the install and that didn't work. 
So I "cd /usr/share/zope" and "python2.1 zpasswd.py access", go through 
the prompts.  Here's the access file:

admin:password

That's it.  There's not even a CR at the end of the one line.  Because I 
chose "cleartext" for encoding, you can see the user is "admin" and the 
password is "password".  At the prompt for "Domain restrictions:" I just 
hit "Enter" (though I tried other things... don't really know what this 
prompt is asking for anyway).  Nothing has worked.  I even restarted 
zope a few times in between some of these attempts.

What else can I do so I can log into the manager screen?

thanks,
ken

From abmanock@earthlink.net  Tue Dec 17 23:43:06 2002
From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock)
Date: 17 Dec 2002 18:43:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Password function to manager screen broke?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171819570.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171819570.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net>
Message-ID: <1040168588.2914.263.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>

Zope from my rpms?

>From the RPM-README :-)

"Initial Administrator Username and Password:
-------------------------------------------

The default administrator username is 'admin' and password is '123'.
These are set in the /var/zope/inituser file. Zope imports this
user account into the ZODB and then deletes the inituser file on
startup.

The old /var/zope/access method is not implemented by this package."

Adam

On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 18:22, ken wrote:
> 
> Zope folks,
> 
> Several times now I've tried to get into the manager screen from the 
> zope home page (both http://localhost.localdomain and the actual 
> hostname.domain of this box) without any luck.
> 
> I tried the user & passwd given after the install and that didn't work. 
> So I "cd /usr/share/zope" and "python2.1 zpasswd.py access", go through 
> the prompts.  Here's the access file:
> 
> admin:password
> 
> That's it.  There's not even a CR at the end of the one line.  Because I 
> chose "cleartext" for encoding, you can see the user is "admin" and the 
> password is "password".  At the prompt for "Domain restrictions:" I just 
> hit "Enter" (though I tried other things... don't really know what this 
> prompt is asking for anyway).  Nothing has worked.  I even restarted 
> zope a few times in between some of these attempts.
> 
> What else can I do so I can log into the manager screen?
> 
> 
> thanks,
> ken
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Dec 18 01:34:42 2002
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:34:42 -0800
Subject: [Zope] RE: Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431B95@desi2>

I get frustrated when reading other coders' PHP code, and I think it is
right to direct that frustration at a crappy language.

Compared to Zope/Python, PHPs weakness is a poor language, aside from
platform/framework considerations.  PHP breaks down for team development
because it inlines code and presentation, but even worse, by way of example,
is unclear method namespaces, and excessive promotion of inlline code
evaluation:

PHP is also horrible in its promotion of
specialized-functionality-module-level stuff to global namespaces.  At least
in Python, if you want to create an ftp client, you do:

from ftplib import FTP 
# I know where to look in the lib ref for this, no?
f = FTP() #I know where FTP came from, no?
f.connect('zopeserver.foo.com',8021) #
f.set_pasv(1)
l = f.dir()
#etc...

in PHP:
$conn = ftp_connect('someserver.foo.com') 
#where did this come from?
$login_res = ftp_login($conn, 'foouser','foopasswd')
$upload = ftp_put....etc

Notice the global namespaces for all the functions... You can't figure out
explicitly where these things came from (unlike Python where tracing
method/class names in code to import statements recursively is almost always
at some point going to lead you back to the library reference, and perhaps
understanding).  If this doesn't make most developers (from many other
languages - even Perl -that do this in a more modular way) concerned, I
don't know what will.

Another example: common practice of inlining execution of code in a PHP
script:

<%
include('somesnippetofcode.php');
%>

Inline eval of code is bad.  Again, this is not explicit.  This magic
server-side-includish practice does not make sense in logic code.  You want
to criticize dtml code in Zope that does this just as much, but at least
Zope provides you with a better alternative: do logic in Python, either TTW
on on the filesystem (and either way, everything is clear becuase you call
other modules via component/object interfaces instead of inline evaluation).

Explicit is always better than implicit, except when it isn't - and trust
me, neither of these count as one of those cases.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Lennart Regebro [mailto:lennart@regebro.nu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:51 AM
To: zope@zope.org; Frederic Faure
Subject: Re: [Zope] RE: Any comments from ex-PHP developers?

From: "Frederic Faure" <ffaure@bigfoot.com>
> - Python is truly OOP : What is missing in PHP4? Multiple inheritance?

Well, yes, but mostly an object store.

> - Zope uses its own DB instead of a filesystem. But then, nobody complains
> when data are saved in other DBMS's, so why do they complain about ZODB?

This is actually a pro, not a con. :-)
The fact that that DB is also file based, and doesn't require you to set up
an SQL-database is another pro.

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From aschmidt@fredericksburg.com  Wed Dec 18 03:57:22 2002
From: aschmidt@fredericksburg.com (Allen Schmidt)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:57:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI
References: <8D1E4909-116D-11D7-8C9B-000393849E6A@mac.com> <1040008980.1118.5.camel@dorothy>
Message-ID: <006201c2a649$91e71860$03000000@swl001>

We just started getting this in ZSQL methods when clicking on the Advance=
d
Tab in the ZMI.

Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

Error Type: Could not load oid =1D3=C1, pickled data in traceback info ma=
y
contain clues
Error Value: None

<p>Traceback (innermost last):
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<li>  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish</li>

<li>  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply</li>

<li>  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object</li>

<li>  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__</li>

<li>  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec</li>

<li>  Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec</li>

<li>  Module Shared.DC.ZRDB.DA, line 476, in manage_product_zclass_info</=
li>

<li>  Module ZODB.Connection, line 533, in setstate</li>

<li>  Module ZODB.Connection, line 192, in _persistent_load<br />
__traceback_info__:      =1D3=C1</li>

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From jwashin@vt.edu  Wed Dec 18 04:47:13 2002
From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:47:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI
In-Reply-To: <006201c2a649$91e71860$03000000@swl001>
References: <8D1E4909-116D-11D7-8C9B-000393849E6A@mac.com> <1040008980.1118.5.camel@dorothy> <006201c2a649$91e71860$03000000@swl001>
Message-ID: <3DFFFDD1.6090606@vt.edu>

Hmm.  I recognize my pretty-old ZClass Product, QSurvey, near the 
beginning of  the traceback.  What version of Zope are you using?  There 
have been problems with some ZClass products, including that one, on 
upgrade to Zope-2.6.0.  As a shot in the dark, have you by chance 
recently upgraded?

-- Jim Washington

Allen Schmidt wrote:

>We just started getting this in ZSQL methods when clicking on the Advanced
>Tab in the ZMI.
>
>
>
>Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
>
>Error Type: Could not load oid 3Á, pickled data in traceback info may
>contain clues
>Error Value: None
>
>
>
>
><p>Traceback (innermost last):
><ul>
>
><li>  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish</li>
>
><li>  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply</li>
>
><li>  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object</li>
>
><li>  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__</li>
>
><li>  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec</li>
>
><li>  Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec</li>
>
><li>  Module Shared.DC.ZRDB.DA, line 476, in manage_product_zclass_info</li>
>
><li>  Module ZODB.Connection, line 533, in setstate</li>
>
><li>  Module ZODB.Connection, line 192, in _persistent_load<br />
>__traceback_info__:      3Á</li>
>
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>contain clues
></p>
>-->
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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From David.Bear@asu.edu  Wed Dec 18 04:59:22 2002
From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:59:22 -0700
Subject: [Zope] created a structured document
Message-ID: <20021217215922.B25394@moroni.pp.asu.edu>

I would like to created a structure text document in a folder called docStor.

The hiearchy looks like this :

\-- 	"my add form lives here"
\docStor "this is where I want to create the structured doc"

I have created a form at '\' called addDoc
and a script at '\' to grab fields from the form.  However, I don't know the api to call to add a structured document.  I've got the zope book and it uses

context.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addDTMLDocument ...

but I don't want to add a dtml doc.

Any pointers?

David Bear
College of Public Programs/ASU
Mail Code 0803

From tino@wildenhain.de  Wed Dec 18 07:10:00 2002
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:10:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Password function to manager screen broke?
In-Reply-To: <1040168588.2914.263.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171819570.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net
 > <1040168588.2914.263.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <28977507.1040199000@liza>

Hi Adam,

--On Dienstag, 17. Dezember 2002 18:43 -0500 Adam Manock 
<abmanock@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Zope from my rpms?
>
> From the RPM-README :-)
>
> "Initial Administrator Username and Password:
> -------------------------------------------
>
> The default administrator username is 'admin' and password is '123'.
> These are set in the /var/zope/inituser file. Zope imports this
> user account into the ZODB and then deletes the inituser file on
> startup.
>
> The old /var/zope/access method is not implemented by this package."

If rpm supports user interaction during installation you schould
probably let the user input its own credentials instead of this
default. Someone could get the idea of scanning the web for new
installed zopes with default passwords.
Is it a good idea to disable the emergency user? What if the
user kills her acl_user object or similar?

Regards
Tino

From equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com  Wed Dec 18 07:53:45 2002
From: equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com (equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:53:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL-Method Bug????
Message-ID: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>

i wrote a sql-method which contains the SQL-Statement "SELECT * FROM
table" called imageList

Table contains about 3000 entries.

I created a DTML-Document and wanted to show all entries with a edit
and delete link. I did it like this:

<dtml-in "db.imageList()" size=3D"1" start=3Dquery_start>
...
</dtml-in>

then i integrated forward and previous links, but if i click on the
forward button i only get forward till to the 900d entry.

i would be happy, if someone could help me

From kedai@kedai.com.my  Wed Dec 18 07:29:15 2002
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:29:15 +0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL-Method Bug????
In-Reply-To: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>
References: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>
Message-ID: <200212181529.15082.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Wednesday 18 December 2002 15:53, equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com wro=
te:
> i wrote a sql-method which contains the SQL-Statement "SELECT * FROM
> table" called imageList
>
> Table contains about 3000 entries.
>
> I created a DTML-Document and wanted to show all entries with a edit
> and delete link. I did it like this:
>
> <dtml-in "db.imageList()" size=3D"1" start=3Dquery_start>
> ...
> </dtml-in>
>
> then i integrated forward and previous links, but if i click on the
> forward button i only get forward till to the 900d entry.
>
> i would be happy, if someone could help me
>

checkout the advance tab in the sql method

the default limit is 1000
hth
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From jo@meder.de  Wed Dec 18 07:30:26 2002
From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:30:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL-Method Bug????
In-Reply-To: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>
References: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>
Message-ID: <20021218073026.GA19945@meder.de>

Am 18.12.2002, 08:53 Uhr
	schrob equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com <equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com>:

> i wrote a sql-method which contains the SQL-Statement "SELECT * FROM
> table" called imageList
[...] 
> then i integrated forward and previous links, but if i click on the
> forward button i only get forward till to the 900d entry.

The result set of a ZSQL-Method is restricted to a maximum number of
entries. Go to the "Advanced" Tab and change the setting of "Maximum
rows to retrieve".

HTH

Jo.

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From phil@xfr.co.uk  Wed Dec 18 08:37:15 2002
From: phil@xfr.co.uk (Philip Kilner)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:37:15 GMT
Subject: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
In-Reply-To: <002e01c2a605$b94af5a0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20021217200731.00a7ac08@mail.club-internet.fr> <002e01c2a605$b94af5a0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>
Message-ID: <VA.00001ac7.03096ff4@xfr.co.uk>

Hi All,

In article <002e01c2a605$b94af5a0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>, Lennart Regebro 
wrote:
> > - Zope uses its own DB instead of a filesystem. But then, nobody complains
> > when data are saved in other DBMS's, so why do they complain about ZODB?
> 
> This is actually a pro, not a con. :-)
> The fact that that DB is also file based, and doesn't require you to set up
> an SQL-database is another pro.
>

Eek!

This makes it sound as though the use of the ZODB and an external RDBMS are 
mutually exclusive - *NOT SO*!!! in non-niche situations, if you need an 
RDBMS, you need an RDBMS - it's a case of using the right tool for the job.

- The fact that the ZODB dB is integrated into the application server and 
doesn't require you to set up an SQL-database for data management tasks which 
do not call for one is a "pro".

- The fact tha Zope will "play nice" with an external RDBMS for data 
management tasks which do call for one is /another/ "pro".

Regards,

PhilK

Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:26 GMT @ Ganesh

Email: phil@xfr.co.uk / Phone, Voicemail & Facsimile: 07092 070518

Tell me and I forget.
Show me and I remember.
Involve me and I understand.
 - Chinese saying

From tino@wildenhain.de  Wed Dec 18 09:47:32 2002
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:47:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL-Method Bug????
In-Reply-To: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>
References: <200212180753.gBI7rjr12935@poweredge.peer-internet.com>
Message-ID: <5916617.1040208452@liza>

Hi Equality,

--On Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002 08:53 +0100 
equality_now@dressyvagabonds.com wrote:

> i wrote a sql-method which contains the SQL-Statement "SELECT * FROM
> table" called imageList
>
> Table contains about 3000 entries.
>
> I created a DTML-Document and wanted to show all entries with a edit
> and delete link. I did it like this:
>
> <dtml-in "db.imageList()" size="1" start=query_start>
> ...
> </dtml-in>
>
> then i integrated forward and previous links, but if i click on the
> forward button i only get forward till to the 900d entry.

Just have a look at the "advanced" tab of your ZSQL Method,
there is a default:

Maximum rows to retrieve [ 1000]

I think this is responsible for your effect.

Regards
Tino

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Dec 18 09:56:35 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:56:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: created a structured document
References: <20021217215922.B25394@moroni.pp.asu.edu>
Message-ID: <atpgj7$5jj$1@main.gmane.org>

David Bear wrote:
> I would like to created a structure text document in a folder called docStor. 
> 
> The hiearchy looks like this :
> 
> \-- 	"my add form lives here"
> \docStor "this is where I want to create the structured doc"
> 
> I have created a form at '\' called addDoc
> and a script at '\' to grab fields from the form.  However, I don't know the api to call to add a structured document.  I've got the zope book and it uses
> 
> context.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addDTMLDocument ...
> 
> but I don't want to add a dtml doc.
> 
> Any pointers?

Depends on the Product you use. If you use StructuredDocument 
[http://www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/StructuredDocument] something like:

context.manage_addProduct['StructuredDocument'].manage_addStructuredDocument(...)

should do the job.

cheers, Maik

-- 
Maik Jablonski                 __o
www.zfl.uni-bielefeld.de     _ \<_    Deutsche Zope User Group
Bielefeld, Germany          (_)/(_)               www.dzug.org

From jmruiz@it.uc3m.es  Wed Dec 18 10:21:21 2002
From: jmruiz@it.uc3m.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Manuel_Ruiz_Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:21:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Log in Plain Text
Message-ID: <DEECJMAIEMDAGFLJNLKKOEGDCCAA.jmruiz@it.uc3m.es>

Hi,

I'm interested in tracing actions of my code to a plain txt file in each
folder of the application. I just want to add one or more lines to the log
after some actions take place, and I want to know if there's a simple method
to write one line to that log.txt

I think I can use "manage_editFile",  but it implies reading all the content
and adding the new line, but I'm not interested in reading it, just add the
line!! I think it would be a useless-complex-method reading it before

Help, please. Thanks in advance

From m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk  Wed Dec 18 11:02:12 2002
From: m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk (Mark Stangroom)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 11:02:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Squishdot SystemError
Message-ID: <1040209332.2207.2.camel@konqueror>

I have just started getting the following error message on my zope site
whenever I try to access squishdot. As far as I am aware nothing has
changed on my server, the same error occurs when I add a new squishdot
site and then try to view it.

Can any one help?

Thanks

Mark

---------------error message as follows-----------------

Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

SystemError
Error

An error has been encountered while publishing this resource.

Troubleshooting Suggestions

* This resource may be trying to reference a nonexistent object or
variable .
    * The URL may be incorrect.
    * The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
    * A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an
error.

If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for
your patience.

Traceback (innermost last):
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/Products/Hotfix_2002-04-15/__init__.py, line
51, in publish_module
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in publish
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 159, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
    (Object: newcomments)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 98, in publish
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88, in mapply
    (Object: index_html)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 39, in
call_object
    (Object: index_html)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 127, in __call__
    (Object: index_html)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: index_html)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: standard_html_header)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in __call__
    (Object: searchForm)
  File /opt/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 473, in
__call__
    (Object: searchForm)
SystemError: (see above)

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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Dec 18 11:22:21 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:22:21 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Squishdot SystemError
References: <1040209332.2207.2.camel@konqueror>
Message-ID: <3E005A6D.8070105@nipltd.com>

Mark Stangroom wrote:
> I have just started getting the following error message on my zope site
> whenever I try to access squishdot.

Never seen that before. Looking at your traceback, it seems you have some kind 
of infinite recursion taking place.

> As far as I am aware nothing has
> changed on my server, the same error occurs when I add a new squishdot
> site and then try to view it.

That is very bizarre.

What version of Squishdot? What version of Zope?
Has anyone been tinkering with stuff on the filesystem?

cheers,

Chris

From roel@planetinterior.com  Wed Dec 18 11:21:28 2002
From: roel@planetinterior.com (Roel Van den Bergh)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:21:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server
In-Reply-To: <20021218094102.29891.64671.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGAEHICJAA.roel@planetinterior.com>

Hi all,

some users are complaining about low traffic speed.

Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server from
an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).

Any tip would very much be apreciated.

TIA, Roel.

Running Zope 2.5.1 on RedHat 7.3, Apache and Webmin

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Dec 18 11:26:27 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:26:27 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Not logging Exceptions
References: <DEECJMAIEMDAGFLJNLKKMEGBCCAA.jmruiz@it.uc3m.es>
Message-ID: <3E005B63.4030804@nipltd.com>

Juan Manuel Ruiz Garcia wrote:
> no, i didnt... now I've found theres one error_log in the container I was
> working, not only in the root...

That's not normal ;-)

> I have not created it, I mean, I don't know
> when or how I created it... so... how can be done?

What type of objetc is the container in question?

cheers,

Chris

From m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk  Wed Dec 18 11:35:27 2002
From: m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk (Mark Stangroom)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 11:35:27 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Squishdot SystemError
In-Reply-To: <3E005A6D.8070105@nipltd.com>
References: <1040209332.2207.2.camel@konqueror>
 <3E005A6D.8070105@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <1040211327.2207.6.camel@konqueror>

Chris

i'm using Zope 2.5.1 and Squishdot 1.4.1. it's been running fine for
months, then suddenly stopped today. I've tried re-installing squishdot
and have even set up a duplicate on the server but get the same error
message. As far as I'm aware only I have access to the server. Although
i am checking into this.

Thanks

Mark

On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 11:22, Chris Withers wrote:
> Mark Stangroom wrote:
> > I have just started getting the following error message on my zope site
> > whenever I try to access squishdot. 
> 
> Never seen that before. Looking at your traceback, it seems you have some kind 
> of infinite recursion taking place.
> 
> > As far as I am aware nothing has
> > changed on my server, the same error occurs when I add a new squishdot
> > site and then try to view it.
> 
> That is very bizarre.
> 
> What version of Squishdot? What version of Zope?
> Has anyone been tinkering with stuff on the filesystem?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
>

From kieran.osullivan@ireland.com  Wed Dec 18 11:41:47 2002
From: kieran.osullivan@ireland.com (Kieran OSullivan)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:41:47 +0800
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
Message-ID: <20021218114147.4599.qmail@ireland.com>

Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient?  If not how mcuh work would it take to make it so?  I've looked all over the web for this and there doesn't seem to be any info.

BACKGROUND DO NOT NEED TO READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT
The company I'm working for have a contract with a government agency so the code has to be WAI complient the contest so far is between SharePoint, Lotus Notes and Zope.  Lotus Notes is hopeless at WAI Complience and SharePoint has no info on the subject.

From m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk  Wed Dec 18 12:15:43 2002
From: m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk (Mark Stangroom)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 12:15:43 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Squishdot SystemError
In-Reply-To: <3E005A6D.8070105@nipltd.com>
References: <1040209332.2207.2.camel@konqueror>
 <3E005A6D.8070105@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <1040213743.2211.9.camel@konqueror>

Chris

i've solved the problem. I had to searchForms in my zope site and it was
trying to reference the wrong one. I've changed the name of the other
one and eveything works ok.

Thanks for your help.

Mark

From aschmidt@nvcc.edu  Wed Dec 18 12:32:17 2002
From: aschmidt@nvcc.edu (Schmidt, Allen J.)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI
Message-ID: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B400@novamail.nv.cc.va.us>

Why, yes...as a matter of fact...we did just up to 2.6.0. When we did, =
we
saw the QSurvey stuff in Products, did not think anyone was using it =
and
left if out of the new Products folder when we moved everything over.

So how do we resolve this? I would really appreciate anything you can
offer...

Thanks

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Jim
Washington
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:47 PM
To: Allen Schmidt
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI

Hmm.  I recognize my pretty-old ZClass Product, QSurvey, near the=20
beginning of  the traceback.  What version of Zope are you using?  =
There=20
have been problems with some ZClass products, including that one, on=20
upgrade to Zope-2.6.0.  As a shot in the dark, have you by chance=20
recently upgraded?

-- Jim Washington

Allen Schmidt wrote:

>We just started getting this in ZSQL methods when clicking on the =
Advanced
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>
>
>
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From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Wed Dec 18 12:35:06 2002
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:35:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
In-Reply-To: <20021218094102.29891.64671.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021218133303.02a0fb00@mail.club-internet.fr>

Thx much to everyone for insights about why Zope you think is a better tool 
to develop web apps over PHP. IMHO, since that's probably the first 
question people wonder about using Zope, I think it'd be a nice thing if 
someone very experienced in Zope and PHP/Perl wrote an article about this.

Thx again
Fred.

From lennart@regebro.nu  Wed Dec 18 12:38:34 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:38:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
References: <20021218114147.4599.qmail@ireland.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c2a692$64e12d30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: "Kieran OSullivan" <kieran.osullivan@ireland.com>
> Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient

Zope generates any HTML you want it to, so you have no problem doing this.

From eugen@sifolt.ro  Wed Dec 18 12:39:16 2002
From: eugen@sifolt.ro (eugen@sifolt.ro)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:39:16 +0200
Subject: [Zope] javascript and ZPT
Message-ID: <1040215156.3e006c7437bdd@mail.sifolt.ro>

Here is a snippet from my template:

......
<td><input type="checkbox" name="c_row" tal:attributes="value row/id"></td>
......
<a href="" onclick="document.forms[0].c_row.checked = true; for(i=0;
i<document.forms[0].c_row.length; i++) { document.forms[0].c_row[i].checked =
true; } return false">Select all</a> 
<a href="" onclick="document.forms[0].c_row.checked =
!document.forms[0].c_row.checked; for(i=0; i<document.forms[0].c_row.length;
i++) { document.forms[0].c_row[i].checked = !document.forms[0].c_row[i].checked;
} return false">Invert selection</a><br>
.......

This works well but I need c_row to be passed as a list of integers. In this
form it is passed as a string or list of strings.
A good replacement I tought to be the follow one:

......
<td><input type="checkbox" name="c_row:list:int" tal:attributes="value
row/id"></td>
......

but in this case I dont now how to handle javascript.
Any help would be appreciated! TNX.
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From jwashin@vt.edu  Wed Dec 18 13:11:06 2002
From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:11:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI
In-Reply-To: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B400@novamail.nv.cc.va.us>
References: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B400@novamail.nv.cc.va.us>
Message-ID: <3E0073EA.2090207@vt.edu>

Hi, Allen

I am guessing there may still be a QSurvey instance or two that are 
floating about in your ZODB, and somehow this may cause problems due to 
ZClass magic and perhaps due to the unresolved "Interfaces" hook that 
came with 2.6.0.

What I would try:

1.  Make a backup copy of the ZODB.
2.  Reinstall the offending ZClass product*
3.  Delete the remaining instances.  The "find" tab is your friend.
4.  Pack the ZODB

*of course, the QSurvey available on zope.org will not install properly 
on 2.6.0.  I will send you a  .zexp of it that will work in another 
message.  Yes, I will get around to updating the Product, but there are 
a few things I wish to fix first...

And the above may not work.  It's just a first stab at it.  We may have 
to go a few rounds of experimentation.  That's the purpose of the backup.

-- Jim

Schmidt, Allen J. wrote:

>Why, yes...as a matter of fact...we did just up to 2.6.0. When we did, we
>saw the QSurvey stuff in Products, did not think anyone was using it and
>left if out of the new Products folder when we moved everything over.
>
>So how do we resolve this? I would really appreciate anything you can
>offer...
>
>Thanks
>
>Allen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Jim
>Washington
>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:47 PM
>To: Allen Schmidt
>Cc: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI
>
>
>Hmm.  I recognize my pretty-old ZClass Product, QSurvey, near the 
>beginning of  the traceback.  What version of Zope are you using?  There 
>have been problems with some ZClass products, including that one, on 
>upgrade to Zope-2.6.0.  As a shot in the dark, have you by chance 
>recently upgraded?
>
>-- Jim Washington
>
>  
>

From jens@zope.com  Wed Dec 18 13:14:37 2002
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:14:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <20021218114147.4599.qmail@ireland.com>
Message-ID: <A8616ED6-128A-11D7-BF07-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

WAI? what's that?

jens

On Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002, at 06:41 US/Eastern, Kieran OSullivan wrote:

> Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient?  If not how mcuh 
> work would it take to make it so?  I've looked all over the web for 
> this and there doesn't seem to be any info.
>
> BACKGROUND DO NOT NEED TO READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT
> The company I'm working for have a contract with a government agency 
> so the code has to be WAI complient the contest so far is between 
> SharePoint, Lotus Notes and Zope.  Lotus Notes is hopeless at WAI 
> Complience and SharePoint has no info on the subject.
>

From Oliver@tekk.dk  Wed Dec 18 13:28:31 2002
From: Oliver@tekk.dk (Oliver Marx)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:28:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <A8616ED6-128A-11D7-BF07-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <A8616ED6-128A-11D7-BF07-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <3E0077FF.2090606@tekk.dk>

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

> WAI? what's that?
>
> jens

http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG1AA-Conformance.html.en

\Oliver

From contact_tonico@yahoo.de  Wed Dec 18 13:31:48 2002
From: contact_tonico@yahoo.de (Tonico Strasser)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:31:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <A8616ED6-128A-11D7-BF07-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <A8616ED6-128A-11D7-BF07-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <3E0078C4.5080708@yahoo.de>

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> WAI? what's that?
> 
> jens
>

Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
http://www.w3.org/WAI/

Tonico

> 
> On Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002, at 06:41 US/Eastern, Kieran OSullivan wrote:
> 
>> Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient?  If not how mcuh 
>> work would it take to make it so?  I've looked all over the web for 
>> this and there doesn't seem to be any info.
>>
>> BACKGROUND DO NOT NEED TO READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT
>> The company I'm working for have a contract with a government agency 
>> so the code has to be WAI complient the contest so far is between 
>> SharePoint, Lotus Notes and Zope.  Lotus Notes is hopeless at WAI 
>> Complience and SharePoint has no info on the subject.
>>
> 
> 
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From jens@zope.com  Wed Dec 18 13:56:08 2002
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:56:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <3E0078C4.5080708@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <75424D8B-1290-11D7-BF07-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

ah, thanks for the enlightenment.

like someone else already mentioned, you have full power over what HTML 
gets spit out on the public end of your zope server. you can make it 
compliant with anything.

jens

On Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002, at 08:31 US/Eastern, Tonico Strasser wrote:

> Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>> WAI? what's that?
>> jens
>
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/
>
> Tonico
>
>> On Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002, at 06:41 US/Eastern, Kieran OSullivan 
>> wrote:
>>> Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient?  If not how 
>>> mcuh work would it take to make it so?  I've looked all over the web 
>>> for this and there doesn't seem to be any info.
>>>
>>> BACKGROUND DO NOT NEED TO READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT
>>> The company I'm working for have a contract with a government agency 
>>> so the code has to be WAI complient the contest so far is between 
>>> SharePoint, Lotus Notes and Zope.  Lotus Notes is hopeless at WAI 
>>> Complience and SharePoint has no info on the subject.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>
> -- 
> Tonico Strasser, WebDesigner
>
> Contact me
>   mailto:contact_tonico@yahoo.de
>
> Visit my HomePage
>   http://Tonico.FreeZope.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From uwe@schuerkamp.de  Wed Dec 18 14:39:55 2002
From: uwe@schuerkamp.de (Uwe Schuerkamp)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:39:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Tru64 problems
Message-ID: <20021218143955.GK29911@nionex.net>

Hi folks,

whenever I try to "find objects" within a Zcatalog on Tru64 Unix
(python 2.1.3 compiled from source), Zope crashes with the following
error:

zdaemon Process 10468 terminated by signal SIGFPE(8)

This happens both using 2.6.0 and 2.6.1b1, when adding metadata 
"summary" which most objects do not have, and reindexing.

I know this is a rather blurry description, but if there is a way I
can get more info out of Zope I'd be more than happy to provide it.

Cheers & thanks in advance,

uwe

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From =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?= <Bjorge@Kvarteret.no>  Wed Dec 18 14:57:39 2002
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?= <Bjorge@Kvarteret.no> (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:57:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] SimpleUserFolder and sha-crypted passwd
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212161118350.16912-100000@heilo.ii.uib.no>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212181539400.25016-100000@fasan.ii.uib.no>

Update:
I now know how to get the passwords to be encrypted, but I still have 
problems. I try to make a getUserDetails file like this:
return {
  'name'     : 'bob',
  'password' : 'test',
  'roles'    : 'student'
  }

(I have tried with and without name as a parameter)

It will not authenticate me!

I do not wish to implement editUser,addUser and deleteUser so they look 
like this:
print('nothing')
return printed

What am I missing?

(I use Zope 2.6 and Python 2.1.3)

I tried the testscripts in tests:
test_User.py I needed to import ZODB, but after that it worked
test_Unconfigured.py worked
test_PythonScriptUsage.py did not work since I have my scripts inside a 
subfolder in Zope
test_AcquireUsage.py worked but I don't understand what it does

Thankyou!
Bjorge

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Bjørge Solli wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I want to put my old loginmanager to rest and put something simple in. 
> SimpleUserFolder sounds nice, but it seems to do the password matching 
> itself, and since I have sha-crypted passwords, I need to match the 
> passwords in encrypted format. Any ideas? If none, can u please tell me to 
> *not* use SimpleUserFolder(perhaps you have an alternative as well?).
> 
> For the record; I keep my users in a database.
> 
> Thankyou!
> 
> regards
> Bjorge
>

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From sholden@holdenweb.com  Wed Dec 18 03:53:14 2002
From: sholden@holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:53:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Seeking Expressions of Support
Message-ID: <02c101c2a649$048120b0$6ff26c42@holdenweb.com>

This is my last word on this subject until after Christmas. It's also about
as close as I'll ever get to spamming -- apologies to those of you who
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Python will finally have low-cost  conferences. So take a look at the
following link, then don't mail me -- visit the Python Wiki PyCon page and
express your support (or not, as the case may be):

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From aschmidt@nvcc.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:36:59 2002
From: aschmidt@nvcc.edu (Schmidt, Allen J.)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:36:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Strange ZSQL error in ZMI
Message-ID: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B409@novamail.nv.cc.va.us>

Jim,

I took the QSurvey.zexp file you sent to me, and imported it into
ControlPanel/Products. No problems there.
but, our site is too big for a full site FIND....times out.

BUT, whilst poking around, I ran across a copy of the folder where the
original survey was. I deleted that survey and we removed the ZClass again.
Everything works fine now. The Advanced TAB on ZSQL Methods is functioning
again.

THANK YOU!

-Allen

From abmanock@earthlink.net  Wed Dec 18 16:15:27 2002
From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 11:15:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Password function to manager screen broke?
In-Reply-To: <28977507.1040199000@liza>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0212171819570.11632-100000@heidegger.mousecar.net >
 <1040168588.2914.263.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>
 <28977507.1040199000@liza>
Message-ID: <1040228130.1201.40.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>

> If rpm supports user interaction during installation you schould
> probably let the user input its own credentials instead of this
> default. Someone could get the idea of scanning the web for new
> installed zopes with default passwords.

Yes. I forget that not everyone runs deny all / explicit allow firewall
policies, even at home. :-) I shouldn't assume that additional layers of
security exist to protect against exploitation of this...

I'll look into what's required to setup the inituser interactively.
Right now the inituser is set during the "build" stage. Even if I don't
end up changing the package so that it is set interactively, I'll at
least make sure Zope only binds to the loopback address by default, thus
reducing the impact, and I'll add a security note to the README in
either case.

>> The old /var/zope/access method is not implemented by this package."

> Is it a good idea to disable the emergency user? What if the
> user kills her acl_user object or similar?

"python2.1 /usr/share/zope/zpasswd.py /var/zope/access" will work to
create an emergency user.

Guess that one needs clarification. Even if I don't implement 
/var/zope/access in the package, that doesn't mean that the 
underlying Zope install doesn't support a user creating and using 
an emergency user.. I will update the docs accordingly.....

Thanks for the feedback,

Adam

From l.pitschl@peer.biz  Wed Dec 18 16:25:54 2002
From: l.pitschl@peer.biz (Lukas Pitschl)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:25:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mysql-Connection in Python-Script
Message-ID: <3E00A192.149C7984@peer.biz>

I would like to use a Mysql-Connection in a Zope-Python-Script.
Could someone explain how that works?

I have to import some CSV-data into a database

thanks in advance

lukas
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From Bryan@capitanoweb.com  Wed Dec 18 16:36:37 2002
From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:36:37 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
In-Reply-To: <VA.00001ac7.03096ff4@xfr.co.uk>
Message-ID: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFBCFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>

I read a post by somebody earlier saying something about "using the right
tool for the job." Bravo, well said!

And, I have not heard this "Pro" for PHP yet, so I'll say it now:
As an entrepreneur developing products for market, I am ultimately concerned
about how the market will accept accept my product. In my line of work
(developing Internet software products), I want to choose (and develop) a
product which will have the highest possible acceptance in my market
segment. Truth be told, PHP is still WAY ahead of Zope in terms of support
and deployment on Unix by Unix network administrators. In my market niche,
the support ratio for PHP:Zope is something like 50:1.  No hard feelings,
but as an entrepreneur, I cannot afford to ignore this single fact.

However, as an entrepreneur, I also cannot ignore the fact that Zope is
rising quickly in popularity. Within just the last 9 to 12 months, I've seen
Zope become a common topic of conversation, have seen seasoned network
admins begin to consider it, and have even seen some begin to trust it.
That's big (!) for such a short period of time! So, I'm on the wagon for
Zope. But right now, the fact is PHP still has better support and market
penetration.

Bryan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> Philip Kilner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:37 AM
> To: Lennart Regebro; zope@zope.org; Frederic Faure
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> In article <002e01c2a605$b94af5a0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>, Lennart Regebro
> wrote:
> > > - Zope uses its own DB instead of a filesystem. But then,
> nobody complains
> > > when data are saved in other DBMS's, so why do they complain
> about ZODB?
> >
> > This is actually a pro, not a con. :-)
> > The fact that that DB is also file based, and doesn't require
> you to set up
> > an SQL-database is another pro.
> >
>
> Eek!
>
> This makes it sound as though the use of the ZODB and an external
> RDBMS are
> mutually exclusive - *NOT SO*!!! in non-niche situations, if you need an
> RDBMS, you need an RDBMS - it's a case of using the right tool
> for the job.
>
> - The fact that the ZODB dB is integrated into the application server and
> doesn't require you to set up an SQL-database for data management
> tasks which
> do not call for one is a "pro".
>
> - The fact tha Zope will "play nice" with an external RDBMS for data
> management tasks which do call for one is /another/ "pro".
>
> Regards,
>
> PhilK
>
> Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:26 GMT @ Ganesh
>
> Email: phil@xfr.co.uk / Phone, Voicemail & Facsimile: 07092 070518
>
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> Show me and I remember.
> Involve me and I understand.
>  - Chinese saying
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>
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From tino@wildenhain.de  Wed Dec 18 16:58:10 2002
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:58:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <20021218114147.4599.qmail@ireland.com>
References: <20021218114147.4599.qmail@ireland.com>
Message-ID: <31753889.1040234290@liza>

Hi Kieran,

--On Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2002 19:41 +0800 Kieran OSullivan 
<kieran.osullivan@ireland.com> wrote:

> Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient?  If not how mcuh
> work would it take to make it so?  I've looked all over the web for this
> and there doesn't seem to be any info.

I dont know what "WAI" complience means. However, Zope delivers
whatever you stuff in. For example our HTML is W3C complient.
There are no remains of code in the delivered HTML, so you
can generate whatever output you want. If you love ugly frontpage
HTML - Zope will deliver it. If you want leading edge XHTML -
Zope will deliver it.

Its on your fingertips.

Does this help?

Regards
Tino Wildenhain

From ben@thesite.org  Wed Dec 18 16:52:35 2002
From: ben@thesite.org (Ben Avery)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:52:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] objectmanager contains object test
Message-ID: <3E00A7D3.9050609@thesite.org>

this is probably really simple, but I can't figure it out from the API docs.

I want to test to see if a folder contains a dtml method with a known 
id. how do I do this from python?

I've tried
if context.data.news[ object_id ]
which breaks with a key error, if it doesn't exist.

I want something like context.data.news.has_key( object_id )
but object manager doesn't seem to have any methods like that.

and doing a try, and catching key errors seems a messy way to do it.

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Wed Dec 18 17:02:27 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:02:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] objectmanager contains object test
In-Reply-To: <3E00A7D3.9050609@thesite.org>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECKENEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

try this:

if hasattr(context.data.news, object_id) :
      ...

Hope that helps,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Ben
Avery
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:53 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] objectmanager contains object test

this is probably really simple, but I can't figure it out from the API docs.

I want to test to see if a folder contains a dtml method with a known
id. how do I do this from python?

I've tried
if context.data.news[ object_id ]
which breaks with a key error, if it doesn't exist.

I want something like context.data.news.has_key( object_id )
but object manager doesn't seem to have any methods like that.

and doing a try, and catching key errors seems a messy way to do it.

From Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca  Wed Dec 18 17:10:36 2002
From: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca (Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:10:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck. (PythonSc
 ript bug)
Message-ID: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E230510@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>

Hello,

Well, I tried to look at the PythonScript issue, and it looks like there's
definitely something "odd" going on here ...

As Jo suggested, I tried "cleaning out" my variables at the end of my Python
Scripts ... I didn't do this for ALL of them though, just the most used
ones, which actually aren't CMF related (Search Engine is one) ...

And now what happens is the memory grows, BUT, at some point, the Zope
process DIES with a SIG11 (Aieeee!), restarts, and voila, of course, the
memory is clean.

This I suppose is a blessing is disguise, as I don't have to keep an eye on
it anymore, I can actually rely on a SIG11 occuring and restarting the
leaking process for me !!!

But this to me indicates some worrying problems with the PythonScript
implementation. Although I have looked everywhere else for the source of my
memory leak, this is the best candidate yet. I even looked at this document:
http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/PreventAndDebugMemLeaks and looked
through my scripts for global variables that don't get reset, and circular
references, but not luck ...

I am confused about the following statements though:

"DO use REQUEST.set and REQUEST.__setitem__ sparingly."
"DONT stuff things that are acquisition-wrapped into REQUEST or into a
session, or into any other object that is transient."

What does that mean exactly? :) I don't use SESSION's , but I like to stuff
things into my REQUEST object indeed quite a bit. Could this be it? And if
so ... out of pure curiosity, why is this bad? I have found using dtml-let
to be awkward to use at times ...

and

"DO use global variables sparingly."
"DONT stuff things into a global variable without later clearing or deleting
the variable."

Global in reference to what ? :) In my External Methods, I have no global
variables, that is no variables that don't belong inside a def'ed function
(and allways "reset" before being used) ...
In PythonScripts themselves, I think I NEVER use functions, just straight
code, so by definition all variables ARE global to that script ... Is this
bad?

Thanks again to  everyone for the help and comments!

J.F.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jo Meder [mailto:jo@meder.de]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Jean-Francois.Doyon@ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck.

Am 29.11.2002, 21:06 Uhr
	schrob Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca
<Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca>:

[Forcing transient objects to be deleted at end of PythonScripts to
 avoid memory leaks]

> Really? Wow, you'd think such a required behavior would be documented ...
> Unless I missed it somewhere.

AFAIK it isn't documented and IMHO it's a bug anyway, so I suppose it
should not be documented but solved. Sigh. So much to do and so little
time.

> I do indeed use quite a bit of Python Scripts ... Problem is many of them
> are part of the CMF ...

Perhaps we have a pattern here. Just like you we use CMF, but we started
with an older version (that was mostly DTML and only some PythonScripts)
and have since then rewritten or at least changed almost everything in
the skins folders.

One problem wrt to the memory leaks we have not solved yet: When we
refresh one of our products that is part of our CMS Zope starts to leak
memory like there's no tomorrow. Restarting Zope immediately stops this.

> I really don't want to have to go through every bit of python script I
> have to do this, and would much prefer finding the root cause!

If you have any success, even clues or insights: I'd very much
appreciate it if you kept me (or the list, of course) posted.

Jo.

From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Dec 18 17:37:05 2002
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:37:05 -0800
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431B99@desi2>

I haven't played with it for years, but Microsoft's travel group (aka
expedia) developed a site stress tool 'Web Application Stress Tool.'

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnw2kmag00/
html/StressTool.asp

This thing can record what you do through a local proxy and then play back
scripts to run stress tests, and this could be done, for example with 2-3
NT/Win2k laptops connected to the same local network as your server.

Worth testing, also, perhaps is caching performance for any caching proxy
server you put in front of Zope... (For example, if you have a ZEO cluster
of 2 boxes, you could set up Squid to run with no caching, doing plain old
proxying, and see what kind of performance you get round-robining your two
Zope servers, then you could turn on caching, run tests with default refresh
patterns, and compare; finally, you could tweak caching via refresh
patterns, HTTP headers in your applications, and HTTP cache manager tweaks
in Zope and run more rounds of the same test).

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Roel Van den Bergh [mailto:roel@planetinterior.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:21 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server

Hi all,

some users are complaining about low traffic speed.

Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server from
an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).

Any tip would very much be apreciated.

TIA, Roel.

Running Zope 2.5.1 on RedHat 7.3, Apache and Webmin

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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Dec 18 17:46:29 2002
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:46:29 -0800
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431B9A@desi2>

Also worth mentioning, if you were testing caching performance, you would
also want to have 2 laptops running a tool like this, have one start a test,
delay a little bit, and let another start after you feel confident that the
cache is relatively full of the items you want.  This sort of testing would
apply just as much to Apache/mod_proxy (assuming you cache) as it would to
Squid.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com [mailto:sean.upton@uniontrib.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:37 AM
To: roel@planetinterior.com; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server

I haven't played with it for years, but Microsoft's travel group (aka
expedia) developed a site stress tool 'Web Application Stress Tool.'

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnw2kmag00/
html/StressTool.asp

Sean

Hi all,

some users are complaining about low traffic speed.

Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server from
an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).

Any tip would very much be apreciated.

TIA, Roel.

Running Zope 2.5.1 on RedHat 7.3, Apache and Webmin

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From ncote@sympatico.ca  Wed Dec 18 18:01:33 2002
From: ncote@sympatico.ca (normand cote)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:01:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] too strict html validation in page templates (zpt)
Message-ID: <000101c2a6bf$80f43e90$0100a8c0@sublime>

I find that html validation in page templates is over-strict (at least from
Zope 2.4.3 on).

The following bit validates ok at http://validator.w3.org but fails as input
to a page template ("EOF in middle of construct").  The problem is that the
attributes on the span tag are not separated by whitespace.  It works fine
as a dtml method, though.

The reason this is such a problem is that Dreamweaver MX (and perhaps other
versions) tends to create markup that looks like this, and it is the most
common tool used by page designers with whom I work.

My question is three-fold:
1) Why is there such a difference in syntax sensitivity between zpt and dmtl
methods?
2) Does anyone know of a tweak to tal.htmlparser that will relax some of
these restrictions?
-- OR --
3) Is there a tool that will clean up errant code such as this (and other
problems like p tags not allowing block elements inside them, causing the
htmlparser to choke on the eventual /p that seems to be mismatched.  I know,
there is no certain way to fix such a problem, but just stripping the
mismatched end tag might do.  On second thought, that's not a solution at
all.)

-------------------
Sample html markup that fails as page template source
-------------------
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
	<head>
		<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1">
		<title>a title</title>
	</head>
	<body>
		<span id="someid"title="description">
		</span>
	</body>
</html>
-------------------

From Greg.Lindstrom@acxiom.com  Wed Dec 18 18:24:01 2002
From: Greg.Lindstrom@acxiom.com (Lindstrom Greg - glinds)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:24:01 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables
Message-ID: <ABEE81BE08ADD311B6A1009027DE908D16A9471E@conmsx03.corp.acxiom.net>

Greetings-
I am in the process of designing three (count 'em 3) projects in Zope and
have spotted a common theme running through them.  I have pages which lists
information stored in a Gadfly (for now) table via a ZSQLMethod.  I would
like to add the following features to my tables;

1.  The ability to click on the column header to sort the table by that
column (member number, name, etc.)
2.  The ability to click on an entry in the table to bring up more
information about the particular item.  For example, clicking on a member
number might bring up a form showing more information about the member.

Is there documentation as how to go about doing this?  Or can one of you
point me to a page that does it already?

Thanks!
--greg

Greg Lindstrom
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 --Ludwig von Wittgenstien

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From ben@thesite.org  Wed Dec 18 18:39:17 2002
From: ben@thesite.org (Ben Avery)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:39:17 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables
References: <ABEE81BE08ADD311B6A1009027DE908D16A9471E@conmsx03.corp.acxiom.>
Message-ID: <3E00C0D5.5030301@thesite.org>

hi Greg,

I'm not sure of any existing products which would do this, but it's easy 
enough to do yourself.

1. The column header needs to be a link back to the page, but specifying 
the column name, so an optional 'order by' clause in the zsql method. 
but the dtml-sqlvar tag puts quotes around its values, so this wouldn't 
work. and it wouldn't be safe to just use <dtml-var ...> inside a zsql 
method as someone could hack your site and call it with the column name 
e.g. 'dummy; drop table users'.
I would do this with each table display page as a folder with an 
index_html python script, a zsql method, and a display method. The 
python script takes an optional parameter of the column name, or sets a 
default. it checks this against a list of metadata about your table with 
the column names, and throws an error if this isn't in your 'safe' list. 
It then calls the zsql method with the column name, which has an 'order 
by <dtml-var col_name>' clause.

2. you need to make a page which displays the detail of the particular 
item given its primary key. I'd have a python method (say 'detail') 
which picks up the key id as parameter, calls a zsql method to get the 
info from the database, and sends it to a display method (dtml or zpt).
The item in the first page is an <a href="detail?key=&dtml-KEY;"> (in 
DTML, with KEY being a variable with the primary key value) link to the 
python script 'detail', which replaces the key id when generated. So 
this becomes a link to the detail page for each item.

hope this helps

Ben Avery

Lindstrom Greg - glinds wrote:
> Greetings-
> I am in the process of designing three (count 'em 3) projects in Zope and
> have spotted a common theme running through them.  I have pages which lists
> information stored in a Gadfly (for now) table via a ZSQLMethod.  I would
> like to add the following features to my tables;
> 
> 1.  The ability to click on the column header to sort the table by that
> column (member number, name, etc.)
> 2.  The ability to click on an entry in the table to bring up more
> information about the particular item.  For example, clicking on a member
> number might bring up a form showing more information about the member.
> 
> Is there documentation as how to go about doing this?  Or can one of you
> point me to a page that does it already?
> 
> Thanks!
> --greg
> 
> Greg Lindstrom
> The limits of language are the limits of one's world 
>  --Ludwig von Wittgenstien
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From abmanock@earthlink.net  Wed Dec 18 18:52:06 2002
From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 13:52:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431B9A@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431B9A@desi2>
Message-ID: <1040237528.1201.50.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>

You may want to start by using ethereal or similar to see
what's going from / to your Zope server. Especially be on the lookout
for lots of unnecessary forward (and possibly reverse) DNS lookups from
your Zope server to your (or ISPs) DNS servers.

Sometimes all you need to do to improve response time is make sure all
your apache virtual hosts are listed in your server's /etc/hosts file

:-)

Adam

> Hi all,
> 
> some users are complaining about low traffic speed.
> 
> Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server from
> an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).
> 
> Any tip would very much be apreciated.
> 
> TIA, Roel.
> 
> Running Zope 2.5.1 on RedHat 7.3, Apache and Webmin
>

From abmanock@earthlink.net  Wed Dec 18 19:00:30 2002
From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 14:00:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] SimpleUserFolder and sha-crypted passwd
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212161118350.16912-100000@heilo.ii.uib.no>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212161118350.16912-100000@heilo.ii.uib.no>
Message-ID: <1040238031.1452.56.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>

On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 05:23, Bj=C3=B8rge Solli wrote:
> Hi
>=20
> I want to put my old loginmanager to rest and put something simple in.=20
> SimpleUserFolder sounds nice, but it seems to do the password matching=20
> itself, and since I have sha-crypted passwords, I need to match the=20
> passwords in encrypted format. Any ideas? If none, can u please tell me t=
o=20
> *not* use SimpleUserFolder(perhaps you have an alternative as well?).
>=20
> For the record; I keep my users in a database.
>=20
> Thankyou!
>=20

I've been down that road...

SHA should work roughly the same as MD5 below

Adam

>From exUserFolder/pgAuthSourceAlt/pgAuthSource.py

# Original cryptPassword function

def cryptPassword(self, username, password):
		salt =3Dusername[:2]
		secret =3D crypt(password, salt)
		return secret

# Alternate cryptPassword function, returns md5 hash of the password
#	def cryptPassword(self, username, password):
#		passhash =3D md5.new(password)
#		secret =3D passhash.hexdigest()
#		return secret

# Alternate cryptPassword function, returns plain text of the password.
#	def cryptPassword(self, username, password):
#		return password

From aschmidt@nvcc.edu  Wed Dec 18 19:02:47 2002
From: aschmidt@nvcc.edu (Schmidt, Allen J.)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:02:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables
Message-ID: <47BCBF3251382B45893950D07804082475B40D@novamail.nv.cc.va.us>

The ZMI sort of uses this concept. Click a header, it sorts one way. Click
again, and it sorts the other way. If you dig into the code that builds the
manage_edit page, you can easily see how its done. I built an Automotive
Sales site using this and it works well. Dropdowns show unique values for
each field. Selecting an option, displays a new page but now that dropdown
is not there and the others only have unique values from the first query and
so on.

Each row has several fields. Clicking a field limits the next page to only
items of that type and the dropdowns update as well. And the whole time, you
can sort and resort each of the columns. Then at any time, you can click a
VIEW link to see the detail of a car.

Works really well and I am going to go back and redo 3 others sections of
our site to use this same technique.

Good luck.

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Lindstrom Greg - glinds
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:24 PM
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables

Is there documentation as how to go about doing this?  Or can one of you
point me to a page that does it already?

Thanks!
--greg

Greg Lindstrom
The limits of language are the limits of one's world 
 --Ludwig von Wittgenstien

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From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Wed Dec 18 19:05:41 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:05:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables
In-Reply-To: <3E00C0D5.5030301@thesite.org>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECGENIIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

If you don't want to use an optional ORDER BY clause in the SQL you can use
the <dtml-in> sort_expr and reverse_expr attributes to do this.  In some
pages I've built like this I use a link back to the page just like Ben
specifies and I add and argument to the URL that indicates on which column
to sort and how.  For example, if the page is results_html and the first
column in the GadFly table in lastName, the link would look like this:

results_html?st=lastNamea  (for an ascending sort)

results_html?st=lastNamed (for a descending sort)

When results_html is called, change your <dtml-in GadflyQuery> to look like
this:

<dtml-in GadflyQuery sort_expr="REQUEST.get('st')[0:-1]"
reverse_expr="REQUEST.get('st')[-1]=='d'">

This will sort on the column name specified in the st variable where the
last character indicates a sort order.  Also, just before your dtml-in add
the following line to setup your default sort order:

<dtml-if "REQUEST.get('st')==None"><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('st',
'lastNamea')"></dtml-if>

Hope that helps,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Ben
Avery
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:39 PM
To: Lindstrom Greg - glinds
Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: Re: [Zope] Help with Tables

hi Greg,

I'm not sure of any existing products which would do this, but it's easy
enough to do yourself.

1. The column header needs to be a link back to the page, but specifying
the column name, so an optional 'order by' clause in the zsql method.
but the dtml-sqlvar tag puts quotes around its values, so this wouldn't
work. and it wouldn't be safe to just use <dtml-var ...> inside a zsql
method as someone could hack your site and call it with the column name
e.g. 'dummy; drop table users'.
I would do this with each table display page as a folder with an
index_html python script, a zsql method, and a display method. The
python script takes an optional parameter of the column name, or sets a
default. it checks this against a list of metadata about your table with
the column names, and throws an error if this isn't in your 'safe' list.
It then calls the zsql method with the column name, which has an 'order
by <dtml-var col_name>' clause.

2. you need to make a page which displays the detail of the particular
item given its primary key. I'd have a python method (say 'detail')
which picks up the key id as parameter, calls a zsql method to get the
info from the database, and sends it to a display method (dtml or zpt).
The item in the first page is an <a href="detail?key=&dtml-KEY;"> (in
DTML, with KEY being a variable with the primary key value) link to the
python script 'detail', which replaces the key id when generated. So
this becomes a link to the detail page for each item.

hope this helps

Ben Avery

Lindstrom Greg - glinds wrote:
> Greetings-
> I am in the process of designing three (count 'em 3) projects in Zope and
> have spotted a common theme running through them.  I have pages which
lists
> information stored in a Gadfly (for now) table via a ZSQLMethod.  I would
> like to add the following features to my tables;
>
> 1.  The ability to click on the column header to sort the table by that
> column (member number, name, etc.)
> 2.  The ability to click on an entry in the table to bring up more
> information about the particular item.  For example, clicking on a member
> number might bring up a form showing more information about the member.
>
> Is there documentation as how to go about doing this?  Or can one of you
> point me to a page that does it already?
>
> Thanks!
> --greg
>
> Greg Lindstrom
> The limits of language are the limits of one's world
>  --Ludwig von Wittgenstien
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Dec 18 19:11:39 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:11:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: objectmanager contains object test
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECKENEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <3E00A7D3.9050609@thesite.org> <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECKENEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <atqhaf$bad$1@main.gmane.org>

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> try this:
> 
>    if hasattr(context.data.news, object_id) :
>       ...

If you don't want to be confused by aquiring objects from above, you 
should use something like:

if hasattr(context.data.news.aq_explicit, object_id):

-mj

From tpassin@mitretek.org  Wed Dec 18 19:21:31 2002
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:21:31 -0500
Subject: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck. (PythonScript bug)
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601298332@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Jean-Francois.Doyon]

> I am confused about the following statements though:
>=20
> "DO use REQUEST.set and REQUEST.__setitem__ sparingly."
> "DONT stuff things that are acquisition-wrapped into REQUEST=20
> or into a session, or into any other object that is transient."
>=20

I asked about that a while ago.  The answer, from Chris McDonough as I
recall, is that the REQUEST object gets handled and referenced so many
places inside Zope that it would probably be impossible to be sure that
any property assignments you added would really get released, thus
preventing garbage collection.  No problem for a few REQUESTS with no
added properties, but possibly a problem for code that adds and handles
a lot of REQUESTS that have a lot of extra properties set.

Cheers,

Tom P

From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Dec 18 19:25:45 2002
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:25:45 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mysql-Connection in Python-Script
References: <3E00A192.149C7984@peer.biz>
Message-ID: <3E00CBB9.5030708@neurobs.com>

import MySQLdb, _mysql
db_con = MySQLdb.connect (host = Self.server,
                               port = Self.port,
                               user = Self.user,
                               passwd = Self.password,
                               db = Self.db_name)

Unfortunately this is what I do in a python product. I dont know if 
PyScripts will allow you to import MySQLdb modules. You could of course 
always got he external scripts way and return the connection object ot 
the calling script.

hth
AM

Lukas Pitschl wrote:

>I would like to use a Mysql-Connection in a Zope-Python-Script.
>Could someone explain how that works?
>
>I have to import some CSV-data into a database
>
>thanks in advance
>
>lukas
>  
>

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From muldrow@mac.com  Wed Dec 18 19:37:26 2002
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:37:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Mysql-Connection in Python-Script
In-Reply-To: <3E00CBB9.5030708@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <BA2638A6.764C%muldrow@mac.com>

On 12/18/02 2:25 PM, "AM" <list_subscriber@neurobs.com> wrote:

> import MySQLdb, _mysql
> db_con = MySQLdb.connect (host = Self.server,
>                              port = Self.port,
>                              user = Self.user,
>                              passwd = Self.password,
>                              db = Self.db_name)
> 
> Unfortunately this is what I do in a python product. I dont know if
> PyScripts will allow you to import MySQLdb modules. You could of course
> always got he external scripts way and return the connection object ot
> the calling script.
> 
> hth
> AM
> 
> 
> Lukas Pitschl wrote:
> 
>> I would like to use a Mysql-Connection in a Zope-Python-Script.
>> Could someone explain how that works?
>> 
>> I have to import some CSV-data into a database
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> lukas
>>  
>> 
If memory serves correctly, PythonScripts won't let you do those imports. I
think you're stuck with calling ZSQL Methods in your PythonScript or using
an external method to make the DB connection.

From tpassin@mitretek.org  Wed Dec 18 19:37:06 2002
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:37:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] too strict html validation in page templates (zpt)
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601298337@email1.mitretek.org>

[normand cote]

> The following bit validates ok at http://validator.w3.org but=20
> fails as input to a page template ("EOF in middle of=20
> construct").  The problem is that the attributes on the span=20
> tag are not separated by whitespace.  It works fine as a dtml=20
> method, though.
>

Hmm, sounds like a bug in the validator.  I think (not sure, though)
that SGML requires a space between attribute name/value pairs.
Ceratinly XML does.  The HTML 4.01 Rec says about attributes -

"Attribute/value pairs appear before the final ">" of an element's start
tag. Any number of (legal) attribute value pairs, separated by spaces,
may appear in an element's start tag."

> The reason this is such a problem is that Dreamweaver MX (and=20
> perhaps other
> versions) tends to create markup that looks like this, and it=20
> is the most common tool used by page designers with whom I work.
>=20

Perhaps browsers have been tolerant of run-together attributes, but it
is a bad idea to encourage at this point.  They will mess up any
conversion to xml or xhtml.  I am surprised that DW would emit bad
markup like that, even if browsers accept it.

Rather than try to hack the ZPT parser to allow these constructions,
better to write a preprocessor to fix them up, I think.

Cheers,

Tom P

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Dec 18 19:41:12 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:41:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Log in Plain Text
In-Reply-To: <DEECJMAIEMDAGFLJNLKKOEGDCCAA.jmruiz@it.uc3m.es>
References: <DEECJMAIEMDAGFLJNLKKOEGDCCAA.jmruiz@it.uc3m.es>
Message-ID: <atqj1r$jsp$1@main.gmane.org>

Juan Manuel Ruiz García wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in tracing actions of my code to a plain txt file in each
> folder of the application. I just want to add one or more lines to the log
> after some actions take place, and I want to know if there's a simple method
> to write one line to that log.txt
> 
> I think I can use "manage_editFile",  but it implies reading all the content
> and adding the new line, but I'm not interested in reading it, just add the
> line!! I think it would be a useless-complex-method reading it before

I don't understand what you exactly want to do, but maybe this one 
should do the job, if you use a DTMLMethod as your log-file and your 
objects to debug are non-folderish. If they are folderish, replace 
self.aq_parent with self:

log_file_obj = getattr(self.aq_parent,'log_file')
log_file_obj.raw = log_file_object.raw + "Your Log Message\n"

-mj

From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Dec 18 19:47:45 2002
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:47:45 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mysql-Connection in Python-Script
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431B9C@desi2>

This will work in a python product (and likely in external methods), but not
in Zope python scripts.  I wouldn't suggest doing this unless you absolutely
know what you are doing and why you need this instead of using the ZMySQLDA
(and at that, you need to be mindful about how you do transactions).

The one place where I can see this being useful is in scripts creating
databases, and the best solution for this is likely an external method.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: AM [mailto:list_subscriber@neurobs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:26 AM
To: Lukas Pitschl
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Mysql-Connection in Python-Script

hth
AM

Lukas Pitschl wrote:

>I would like to use a Mysql-Connection in a Zope-Python-Script.
>Could someone explain how that works?
>
>I have to import some CSV-data into a database
>
>thanks in advance
>
>lukas
>  
>

"I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
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From barryp@medicine.nodak.edu  Wed Dec 18 19:55:49 2002
From: barryp@medicine.nodak.edu (Barry Pederson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:55:49 -0600
Subject: [Zope] too strict html validation in page templates (zpt)
In-Reply-To: <000101c2a6bf$80f43e90$0100a8c0@sublime>
References: <000101c2a6bf$80f43e90$0100a8c0@sublime>
Message-ID: <3E00D2C5.5080808@medicine.nodak.edu>

normand cote wrote:
> I find that html validation in page templates is over-strict (at least from
> Zope 2.4.3 on).
> 
> The following bit validates ok at http://validator.w3.org but fails as input
> to a page template ("EOF in middle of construct").  The problem is that the
> attributes on the span tag are not separated by whitespace.  It works fine
> as a dtml method, though.

> 		<span id="someid"title="description">

The HTML 4.01 specs say:

------------------
3.2.2 Attributes

... Any number of (legal) attribute value pairs, separated by spaces, may 
appear in an element's start tag. ...
-------------------

So strictly-speaking, it looks like Zope is right, and the validator and 
Dreamweaver are wrong and should be fixed.
	
	Barry

From phil@xfr.co.uk  Wed Dec 18 19:59:29 2002
From: phil@xfr.co.uk (Philip Kilner)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:59:29 GMT
Subject: [Zope] Any comments from ex-PHP developers?
In-Reply-To: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFBCFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFBCFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00001aca.009277c0@xfr.co.uk>

Hi Bryan,

In article <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFBCFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>, Bryan 
Capitano wrote:
> PHP is still WAY ahead of Zope in terms of support
> and deployment on Unix by Unix network administrators. In my market niche,
> the support ratio for PHP:Zope is something like 50:1.  No hard feelings,
> but as an entrepreneur, I cannot afford to ignore this single fact.
>

Interesting take.

Of course, if you are providing a hosted solution (e.g. providing a service 
as well as / instead of selling a product), then this problem goes away...

I was once involved in an e-Commerce product based on a proprietary (and, as 
it turned out, extremely flaky) script engine. Of course, we had 
automatically priced ourselves out of the market for any work except that 
calling for a dedicated server, because hosting operations were v. wary of 
the engine.

Value of script engine over and above Perl / Python / PHP = 0%

Contribution of script engine to demise of product and company = 100%

Lesson learned = If you must pick your own tools, provide an end-to-end 
solution and reap the benefit of your choice yourself...

YMMV!

Regards,

PhilK

Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:50 GMT @ Ganesh

Email: phil@xfr.co.uk / Phone, Voicemail & Facsimile: 07092 070518

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Show me and I remember.
Involve me and I understand.
 - Chinese saying

From jonas@nasaweb.net  Wed Dec 18 20:04:37 2002
From: jonas@nasaweb.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F3nas_Sigur=F0sson?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:04:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables
In-Reply-To: <3E00C0D5.5030301@thesite.org>
Message-ID: <!~!AAAAAGDcmrosxwRFg43rTmh1ZeJEQiEA@nasaweb.net>

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Hi,

Is there any specific reason for why there isn't a standard datagrid =
product
for displaying information this manner, just like there is in .NET
(DataGrid) and other popular platforms.  A component for displaying rows =
of
data, sortable and/or editable.  Since I'm rather new to Zope I always
thought I was missing something obvious. Am I ?

Regards,

J=F3nas

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of Ben
Avery
Sent: 18. desember 2002 19:39
To: Lindstrom Greg - glinds
Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: Re: [Zope] Help with Tables

hi Greg,

I'm not sure of any existing products which would do this, but it's easy =

enough to do yourself.

1. The column header needs to be a link back to the page, but specifying =

the column name, so an optional 'order by' clause in the zsql method.=20
but the dtml-sqlvar tag puts quotes around its values, so this wouldn't=20
work. and it wouldn't be safe to just use <dtml-var ...> inside a zsql=20
method as someone could hack your site and call it with the column name=20
e.g. 'dummy; drop table users'.
I would do this with each table display page as a folder with an=20
index_html python script, a zsql method, and a display method. The=20
python script takes an optional parameter of the column name, or sets a=20
default. it checks this against a list of metadata about your table with =

the column names, and throws an error if this isn't in your 'safe' list. =

It then calls the zsql method with the column name, which has an 'order=20
by <dtml-var col_name>' clause.

2. you need to make a page which displays the detail of the particular=20
item given its primary key. I'd have a python method (say 'detail')=20
which picks up the key id as parameter, calls a zsql method to get the=20
info from the database, and sends it to a display method (dtml or zpt).
The item in the first page is an <a href=3D"detail?key=3D&dtml-KEY;"> =
(in=20
DTML, with KEY being a variable with the primary key value) link to the=20
python script 'detail', which replaces the key id when generated. So=20
this becomes a link to the detail page for each item.

hope this helps

Ben Avery

Lindstrom Greg - glinds wrote:
> Greetings-
> I am in the process of designing three (count 'em 3) projects in Zope =
and
> have spotted a common theme running through them.  I have pages which
lists
> information stored in a Gadfly (for now) table via a ZSQLMethod.  I =
would
> like to add the following features to my tables;
>=20
> 1.  The ability to click on the column header to sort the table by =
that
> column (member number, name, etc.)
> 2.  The ability to click on an entry in the table to bring up more
> information about the particular item.  For example, clicking on a =
member
> number might bring up a form showing more information about the =
member.
>=20
> Is there documentation as how to go about doing this?  Or can one of =
you
> point me to a page that does it already?
>=20
> Thanks!
> --greg
>=20
> Greg Lindstrom
> The limits of language are the limits of one's world=20
>  --Ludwig von Wittgenstien
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From jtk@yahoo.com  Wed Dec 18 20:14:39 2002
From: jtk@yahoo.com (Jeff Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:14:39 -0500
Subject: [Zope] chr(eval(self.myhex)) works in Python console, not in python product?
Message-ID: <atqkvc$sa2$2@main.gmane.org>

If the following works:
>>> class Foo:
...  def __init__(self):
...   self.myhex = '0x2a'
...  def bar(self):
...   print chr(eval(self.myhex))
...
>>> foo = Foo()
>>> foo.bar()
*
in Zope's python console (2.1.3),

But in a Zope Python product method the same sort of thing fails:

Error Type: SyntaxError
Error Value: unexpected EOF while parsing (line 0)

(specifically, its a Formulator Form method, and the self.myhex is a stringfield property
of the Form instance)

is it because eval is restricted even in a python product? Restricting eval() would seem
to be an necessary security step, just wanted to check to make sure that's what causes the
syntax error.

Thanks

From abmanock@earthlink.net  Wed Dec 18 20:28:23 2002
From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock)
Date: 18 Dec 2002 15:28:23 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with Tables
In-Reply-To: <ABEE81BE08ADD311B6A1009027DE908D16A9471E@conmsx03.corp.acxiom.net>
References: <ABEE81BE08ADD311B6A1009027DE908D16A9471E@conmsx03.corp.acxiom.net>
Message-ID: <1040243304.1452.60.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>

Hmm.. Maybe this is what you're looking for?

http://localhost:8080/Examples/FileLibrary

:-)

Adam

On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 13:24, Lindstrom Greg - glinds wrote:
> Greetings-
> I am in the process of designing three (count 'em 3) projects in Zope and
> have spotted a common theme running through them.  I have pages which lists
> information stored in a Gadfly (for now) table via a ZSQLMethod.  I would
> like to add the following features to my tables;
> 
> 1.  The ability to click on the column header to sort the table by that
> column (member number, name, etc.)
> 2.  The ability to click on an entry in the table to bring up more
> information about the particular item.  For example, clicking on a member
> number might bring up a form showing more information about the member.
> 
> Is there documentation as how to go about doing this?  Or can one of you
> point me to a page that does it already?
> 
> Thanks!
> --greg
> 
> Greg Lindstrom
> The limits of language are the limits of one's world 
>  --Ludwig von Wittgenstien
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From benjamin-chapman@utulsa.edu  Wed Dec 18 21:10:13 2002
From: benjamin-chapman@utulsa.edu (Ben Chapman)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:10:13 -0600
Subject: [Zope] High CPU usage on ExtFile objects?
Message-ID: <3E00E435.8050301@utulsa.edu>

Hello:

We're running our law school web-site on Zope 2.4.3 (source release, 
python 2.1, linux2). Zope is running through Apache pcgi.

Our Data.fs is about 130MB in size. In addition we have two large 
directories of external image/external file objects. Occasionally, we 
see CPU usage shoot to 99.9% when attempting to view large (up to 8MB in 
size) PDFs stored as ExtFile objects in these folders. The attempted 
display of the PDF then fails. The folders with the PDFs are on a local 
10K RPM SCSI drive. We're using a linux 2.4.x SMP kernel with 2 PIII 
500Mhz processors and 1 GB RAM. Load average when not attempting to 
display the large PDFs is something like: 0.79 - 0.64.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve performance for 
display of these PDF documents?

Regards,

Ben

-- 
Benjamin J. Chapman   benjamin-chapman@utulsa.edu   918/631-2405
Director of Computing Resources  TU College of Law
http://www.utulsa.edu/law/support/
Send computing support requests to: support@mail.law.utulsa.edu

From kevin@movieextras.ie  Wed Dec 18 21:54:26 2002
From: kevin@movieextras.ie (Kevin Gill)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:54:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Exceptions in Python Script
Message-ID: <200212182154.26085.kevin@movieextras.ie>

Hi,

Can anyone point me towards documentation / howtos / information on handling 
exceptions in python scripts (scripts not 'external methods').

I have a core set of page templates that determine their content based on the 
traverse_subpath. Due to the inability of some browsers to understand the 
base tag, I have just re-implemented this logic python. However, I cannot 
handle the exceptions in python.

Using page templates I can handle exceptions, but not using a python script.

I want such logic as:

pt = container.x
        return pt()
    except AccessControl.unauthorized.Unauthorized:
        return container.acl_users.redirectToLogin(request)
    except ... NotFound :
        ....
    except:
        ...

But access to the python exception functionality is not available. 
Furthermore, access to the sys variables for exceptions are also not 
available.

When I use page templates I have a variable called '_', and can do some nasty 
work ....

error = _['error']
    if str(error.type) == "AccessControl.unauthorized.Unauthorized":
        return container.acl_users.redirectToLogin(request)

However, there is no _ in the python script. So I need to have scripts calling 
page templates calling scripts so that I can get the exception information. 
This is the sort of coding that makes Visual Basic look clean!

This problem is so fundamental that I am sure there is plenty of documentation 
in the zope site. Unfortunately, I cannot find it. If anyone can point me to 
the HowTos or other documentation on this problem, I would be grateful.

Thanks in advance,

Kevin Gill

PS - Remember the question is about python scripts. Please do not send me 
messages about external methods.

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Dec 18 22:23:25 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:23:25 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Exceptions in Python Script
In-Reply-To: <200212182154.26085.kevin@movieextras.ie>
References: <200212182154.26085.kevin@movieextras.ie>
Message-ID: <20021218222325.GA11758@slinkp.com>

On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 09:54:26PM +0000, Kevin Gill wrote:
> I want such logic as:
> 
> 
>         pt = container.x
>         return pt()
>     except AccessControl.unauthorized.Unauthorized:

You're missing the "try" keyword:

try: 
   do_something()
except SomeErrorClass:
   do_something_else()

> But access to the python exception functionality is not available.

Yes it is.

> Furthermore, access to the sys variables for exceptions are also not 
> available.

The what variables?
 
> When I use page templates I have a variable called '_', and can do some nasty 
> work ....
> 
>     error = _['error']
>     if str(error.type) == "AccessControl.unauthorized.Unauthorized":
>         return container.acl_users.redirectToLogin(request)
> 
> However, there is no _ in the python script.

I'm very confused. Are you talking about the DTML namespace variable?
What do you do with a _ variable in Page Templates?
 
--

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"

From pskipworth@touchcorp.com  Wed Dec 18 23:06:30 2002
From: pskipworth@touchcorp.com (pskipworth@touchcorp.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:06:30 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Couple of newbie questions
Message-ID: <H00000fd004cf1f1.1040252789.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>

Hi all,

Couple of quickies...

1) How do I reference a Script (Python) from an External Method ? I have 
an external method which needs to call a Script (Python), both of which 
are in the same folder - following is my external method - the " c = 
..." line is wrong, but I don't know how to fix it!

def export(self):

request = self.REQUEST
    response =  self.REQUEST.RESPONSE

c = self.aq_parent.getClients();

...

2) What exactly does 'container' reference ? How is it different to 
aq_parent ? Can someone give a couple of examples of usage of them ?

Thanks - sorry to sound stupid =)

PETER SKIPWORTH
SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR
TOUCHCORP LTD
TELEPHONE 03 9635 2626
www.touchcorp.com

From toman@marge.cyber-dyne.com  Wed Dec 18 23:25:39 2002
From: toman@marge.cyber-dyne.com (toman)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:25:39 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Win32, Zope and FTP
References: <3DF7BF3C.9000400@marge.cyber-dyne.com> <15866.20390.786131.188833@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <3DFAD3AF.4030307@marge.cyber-dyne.com>
Message-ID: <3E0103F3.4030809@marge.cyber-dyne.com>

joseph toman wrote:
> Dieter Maurer wrote:
> 
>> toman writes:
>> > I'm trying to put together a collaboration app that allows users to 
>> > share large datasets. When I ftp the data, which has numerous folders
>> > and large (~100Meg) and small files in them, to a Zope 2.6.0 server
>> > running on Windows XP, it will transfer many but not all of the > 
>> datasets. Then if I try to make another object, say a folder, through 
>> > ftp or the management screens, the server hangs.
>> Maybe, your FTP client forgets to close connections.
>>
>>  After some time, Zope will have no more file descriptors
>>  to accept further requests.
>>
>> > The same test on a > Linux box running Mandrake 8.something doesn't 
>> show this problem at all.
>> With the same FTP client?
>>  
>>
> Yes, the client was WSFTP_LE. Further tests had the same results when 
> moving 4  ~15MB files via WebDAV. The server on the XP box hung
> and none of the files were moved. The client was the built in Web 
> folders on Win2K. With the same client the Zope server on the linux box  
> received the files
> fine. I ran a Zope server on my Windows Me laptop and moved some files 
> onto it with WebDAV from a linux box (Mandrake 9.0,KDE 3.0) and
> though the largest (a CD image ~500Mb) files didn't transfer (it looks 
> like I ran out of disk space on the system drive) the Zope server didn't 
> hang.
> 
>> > Ideas? I would guess that it's a threading problem, mostly because 
>> in my > experience threads suck on Windows, but I don't know enough 
>> about the > Zope internals to prove it.
>> I have not yet heard of (modern) Windows threading problems.
>> They seem to be better supported than on Unix.
>>
>>  
>>
> That could be. My experience with Windows threads is at least five years 
> old.
> 
>

After discovering that the ZClasses I built on 2.5.1 can't be imported
that easily to a 2.6 server, I fell back to 2.5.1 . Now all of my FTP on 
an XP box problems have gone away. Don't know why or how, but take it as 
a data point.

J. Toman

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Dec 18 23:35:43 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:35:43 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Couple of newbie questions
In-Reply-To: <H00000fd004cf1f1.1040252789.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>
References: <H00000fd004cf1f1.1040252789.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>
Message-ID: <20021218233543.GA28278@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:06:30AM +1100, pskipworth@touchcorp.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Couple of quickies...
> 
> 1) How do I reference a Script (Python) from an External Method ? I have 
> an external method which needs to call a Script (Python), both of which 
> are in the same folder - following is my external method - the " c = 
> ..." line is wrong, but I don't know how to fix it!
> 
> def export(self):
> 
>     request = self.REQUEST
>     response =  self.REQUEST.RESPONSE
> 
>     c = self.aq_parent.getClients();

Try it like

c = self.getClients()

The "self" in an External Method can be used like "context"
in a Script (Python).

> 2) What exactly does 'container' reference ? How is it different to 
> aq_parent ? Can someone give a couple of examples of usage of them ?

self.aq_parent is the context's parent in the acquisition chain.
So it involves the calling context as well as the containers,
depending on how the method is called.

container in a script means the container where the script actually
lives, so it's not affected by context at all.

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:28:38 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:28:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mysql-Connection in Python-Script
In-Reply-To: <3E00A192.149C7984@peer.biz>
References: <3E00A192.149C7984@peer.biz>
Message-ID: <15873.1190.669310.79151@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lukas Pitschl writes:
 > I would like to use a Mysql-Connection in a Zope-Python-Script.
 > Could someone explain how that works?
 > 
 > I have to import some CSV-data into a database
I would go for a Z SQL Method.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:26:00 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:26:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] javascript and ZPT
In-Reply-To: <1040215156.3e006c7437bdd@mail.sifolt.ro>
References: <1040215156.3e006c7437bdd@mail.sifolt.ro>
Message-ID: <15873.1032.570141.933140@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

eugen@sifolt.ro writes:
 > ...
 > <td><input type="checkbox" name="c_row:list:int" tal:attributes="value
 > row/id"></td>
 > ......
 > 
 > but in this case I dont now how to handle javascript.
Javascript supports both atribute access as well as subscription syntax.

When you want to access an attribute with a name containing characters
invalid in names, you can use:

object['attribute_name']

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:32:01 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:32:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL arguments
In-Reply-To: <E18NUIs-000370-00@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
References: <E18NUIs-000370-00@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <15872.63329.928764.230034@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Terry Hancock writes:
 > >From the DTML inside of a ZSQL method, is it possible to interrogate the list 
 > of arguments?  Examing the source, I've tried various combinations of
I do not know such a way.

However, you can pass a dictionary (as a single keyword argument)
and inspect its content. You will loose testability through
the "Test" tab, of course.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 21:18:14 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:18:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Error handling and Zpublisher type casts ?
In-Reply-To: <001001c2a310$2e5805c0$0100a8c0@Enterprise>
References: <001001c2a310$2e5805c0$0100a8c0@Enterprise>
Message-ID: <15872.58902.544093.6582@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Andreas Martin writes:
 > I would like to ask how I can catch an error produced by a Zpublisher
 > type cast. 
I fear, you cannot...

You may be able to do something about them in a custom
"standard_error_message".

One way to go is to not use ZPublisher type casts and do the casting
in your application.

The "Formulator" product may help you with validation and maybe
casting.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 21:21:29 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:21:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains
In-Reply-To: <D300D28F-10FC-11D7-9542-000393849E6A@fredericksburg.com>
References: <15866.22391.892987.950645@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <D300D28F-10FC-11D7-9542-000393849E6A@fredericksburg.com>
Message-ID: <15872.59097.84813.994943@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chris Muldrow writes:
 > I read that before I sent my question! But I'm setting .mydomain.com as 
 > my domain name, and netscape is not recognizing that the cookie applies 
 > to http://mydomain.com
There are restrictions on the domain specification length.

Maybe, you domain does not contain enough "."s.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:14:28 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:14:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Upgrading zope
In-Reply-To: <20021217205029.88FE23DCA@xmxpita.excite.com>
References: <20021217205029.88FE23DCA@xmxpita.excite.com>
Message-ID: <15873.340.424382.861956@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mark Gibsonz writes:
 > I have a client working on zope 2.3.3.  What are the advantages to upgrading zope to the latest version?
When your customer is happy and you do not need new features,
there are almost no advantages.

Except, that you may have more time now than when he starts to become
unhappy ....

> It's likely to be a big job, how can I justify this?  What are the risks to upgrading?
Usually, only a few products need a bit of care.
Most upgrades I did could be done within one hour.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:13:53 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:13:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting a Mysqldb.Connection objetct form ZMySAQLDA
In-Reply-To: <525a01c2a511$410ccc20$0701a8c0@provence>
References: <525a01c2a511$410ccc20$0701a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <15872.62241.71325.282204@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Gilles Lenfant writes:
 > Is it possible to get a MySQLdb.Connection object from a ZMySQLDA object ?
 > I need this because my Python product builds the query string dynamically
 > and a ZSQL Method is not suitable for this.
 > Or should I parse the connection string and build my own Connection object ?
I use:

conn= getattr(db,'_v_conn',None)
  if conn is None: db._v_conn= conn= apply(Connect,(),db.kwargs)

"db" is a ZMySQLDA instance.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:28:03 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:28:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Tru64 problems
In-Reply-To: <20021218143955.GK29911@nionex.net>
References: <20021218143955.GK29911@nionex.net>
Message-ID: <15873.1155.523744.421885@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Uwe Schuerkamp writes:
 > Hi folks, 
 > 
 > whenever I try to "find objects" within a Zcatalog on Tru64 Unix
 > (python 2.1.3 compiled from source), Zope crashes with the following
 > error:
 > 
 > zdaemon Process 10468 terminated by signal SIGFPE(8)
This is a "Floating Point Exception", probably an underflow.

I remember that floating point exceptions (at least for underflow)
can be controlled via a system call.
Check your manual pages and see whether (1) I am right and (2) whether
the system call is available in Python.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:17:06 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:17:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] swocket integration
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0212172253180.17121-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33L2.0212172253180.17121-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <15873.498.363517.577844@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ed Colmar writes:
 > ...
 > If I start the swocketserver from within a zope product, I should have
 > access to self. and inheritance and all that from within swocket?
I do not know about "swocketserver"...

However, it sounds as if it would either run in its own thread
or need to be integrated with medusa's main loop.
In both cases, special care would be needed to access any
Zope objects.

The "ZODB3" documentation gives details about access to Zope objects
in separate threads.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:10:56 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:10:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope error<200>
In-Reply-To: <3DFF8341.3060900@em.agr.ca>
References: <3DFF8341.3060900@em.agr.ca>
Message-ID: <15873.128.959508.904756@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Francoise Guilbault writes:
 > Platform: W2K
 > I installed localizer in the products sub-dir and started up the zserver 
 > and got the following error:
 > Zope could not import Products.Localizer Traceback <innermost last>:
 > Module OFS.application, line 541, in import_product
 > Module Products.Localizer, line 290, in ?
 > Module App.ImageFile, line 44, in __init__
 > IOError: [Errno 21] No such file or directory: xxxx\\xxxxx\\xxxxx......
 > 
 > Any clues would be greatly appreciated.
Look at line 290 of "Products/Localizer/__init__.py".

Apparently, a file is referenced there, which cannot be found.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:22:23 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:22:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server
In-Reply-To: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGAEHICJAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
References: <20021218094102.29891.64671.Mailman@mail.python.org>
 <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGAEHICJAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
Message-ID: <15873.815.409811.427633@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Roel Van den Bergh writes:
 > some users are complaining about low traffic speed.
 > 
 > Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server from
 > an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).
You can use "-M" logging to analyse Zope request processing.
Search the mailing list archives for "requestprofiler".

This does not measure the "connection speed" (do not know what that is).
You may also use "ab" (part of "Apache") for benchmarking.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:19:48 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:19:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Permissions question
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECKEKIIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECKEKIIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15872.62596.542706.979103@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Carlson writes:
 > ....
 > If I log in as a user that has access to the Root Folder, all is well.
 > However, when I log in as a user that is listed in the acl_users folder
 > contained in Folder 2.1, catalog searches are getting fouled up.
You may look how CMF solves this problem (authorization dependent
query results):

It has a specialized keyword index "AllowedRolesAndUsers".
  
  A document's value for this index is the list of roles
  that should be allowed to see this object in query results.

A query is implicitly extended with a subquery against
  this index. The value is the list of roles associated
  with the current user.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:02:46 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:02:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] newbie: why can't I list directories under ftp on RH7.2?
In-Reply-To: <15871.332.122595.621237@rpeck.com>
References: <15871.332.122595.621237@rpeck.com>
Message-ID: <15872.65174.344377.657901@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ray Peck writes:
 > ...
 > I'm impressed with the
 > comprehensiveness of what's available in Zope and am happy to be here.
Nice to hear.

> I've opened up port 8021 using ipchains to my local network, and I can
 > ftp to the server from localhost or from a Windows ftp client, and can
 > log in.  But I can't get a directory listing ("Unauthorized") or change
 > to directories that I thounk ought to be there ("/Diaries").  I haven't
 > been able to find any clues using Google.
When you get "Unauthorized", this suggests that it is a permission
problem.

Zope will accept any "user" (FTP) command without check.

Checks are done when you try to access an object (or folder).

It seems that the "user" (i.e. "login" information) is invalid
or the user does not have enough permissions to use the FTP
methods.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 21:24:16 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:24:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] bug? type error unicode creating zclass in zope2.6.1b1
In-Reply-To: <200212161043.37265.kedai@kedai.com.my>
References: <200212161043.37265.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <15872.59264.861869.802715@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bakhtiar A Hamid writes:
 > when creating zclass in zope2.6.1b1, i have this error[1]
 > 
 > it works if i use zope 2.6.0
 > 
 > --
 > [1] traceback
 > 
 > TypeError
 > Sorry, a site error occurred.
 > 
 > Traceback (innermost last):
 > ...
 >     * Module ZODB.Connection, line 388, in commit
 >       __traceback_info__: (('ZClasses.ZClass', 'ZClass'), 
 > '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x02Ie', '')
 > 
 > TypeError: expected string or Unicode object, None found 
Recently, a problem with "persistent_id" has been reported.

Maybe, that's your problem.
Check the mailing list archives.

If not, what's the code in line 388 of "ZODB/Connection.py".
Something wrong ("None") is passed where a string like object
is expected.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:41:45 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:41:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] API for Zope cacheing
In-Reply-To: <1040059343.10313.2.camel@zaphod.chaptereight.com>
References: <1040059343.10313.2.camel@zaphod.chaptereight.com>
Message-ID: <15872.63913.358284.759939@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Felix Ulrich-Oltean writes:
 > Is there an API for using Zope's cacheing machinery from python
 > products?
Look at the methods provided by a RAMCacheManager.
I would use my "DocFinder" (<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>)

> Specifically, I have a subclass of SimpleUserFolder which calls 20+ SQL 
 > statements every time it's called just to work out the user's details -
 > this is all very cacheable and I can see that Zope provides various
 > caches - there are some useful-looking methods in RAMCacheManager.py,
 > but I was wondering if there is a 'known' way to do it.
You may also consider caching the Z SQL Methods (controlled via
their "Advanced" tab).
Do not forget to invalidate the cache, when you add/change users.
This can be done by editing the Z SQL Method or by using
my "CacheControlled ZSQL Methods" (see above, for the URL).

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:03:44 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:03:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade
In-Reply-To: <200212171115.44579.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br>
References: <200212171115.44579.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br>
Message-ID: <15872.65232.765832.332032@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Paulo Eduardo Neves writes:
 > I've just upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.6. In the process, I've also changed 
 > some things (e.g., changed from SiteRoot/SiteAccess to VHM). My problem 
 > now is that XML-RPC calls aren't working any more. I always get a /RPC2 
 > NotFound error.  Here is the output of calling a simple python script:
 > 
 > ################################333
 > python
 > Python 2.1.3 (#4, May 23 2002, 15:13:21)
 > [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)] on linux2
 > Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 > Welcome to Lazy Python.  Type "help LazyPython" for help.
 > >>> import xmlrpclib
 > >>> s = xmlrpclib.Server('http://www.samba-choro.com.br')
 > >>> s.testXMLRPC()
Try:

s = xmlrpclib.Server('http://www.samba-choro.com.br/testXMLRPC')
  s()

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:34:25 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:34:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] objectmanager contains object test
In-Reply-To: <3E00A7D3.9050609@thesite.org>
References: <3E00A7D3.9050609@thesite.org>
Message-ID: <15873.1537.863046.839217@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ben Avery writes:
 > I want to test to see if a folder contains a dtml method with a known 
 > id. how do I do this from python?
 > 
 > I've tried
 > if context.data.news[ object_id ]
 > which breaks with a key error, if it doesn't exist.
 > 
 > I want something like context.data.news.has_key( object_id )
 > but object manager doesn't seem to have any methods like that.
 > 
 > and doing a try, and catching key errors seems a messy way to do it.
You have several options:

*  "try: ... except: ..." around the code above

*  "hasattr(object.aq_explicit, attribute)"
     This is not fool proof

*  an external method "hasOwnAttr" providing the missing function

from Acquisition import aq_base
     def hasOwnAttr(self,attr):
       return hasattr(aq_base(self),attr)

*  making the above method available to DTML and Python Script
     by modifying the Zope source.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 21:40:44 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:40:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] FW: Delete user and users folder
In-Reply-To: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGOECACAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>
References: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGOECACAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>
Message-ID: <15872.60252.938106.922114@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

John Paul writes:
 > can somebody tell me how to delete a user and its members folder in python
 > script.
Seems your question would be better in the CMF mailing list
(mailto:zope-cmf@zope.org).

Using my "DocFinder" product
(--> <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>),
it appears that CMF does not directly support member deletion.

You can use the more basic methods:

"AccessControl.User.BasicUserFolder.userFolderDesUsers" to
  delete a user from "acl_users". This will require
  the permission "Manage users".

"OFS.ObjectManager.ObjectManager.manage_delObjects" to
  delete any objects (attention: wants a list of object ids to be
  deleted, not a single id) from an object manager (and, therefore,
  a folder). This will require the permission "Delete objects"
  on the object manager.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 21:30:12 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:30:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CMF Article and DC Workflow Problem
In-Reply-To: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGOEBPCAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>
References: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGOEBPCAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>
Message-ID: <15872.59620.189413.906767@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

John Paul writes:
 > I just set up a CMF portal with a couple of custom types and noticed that
 > CMF Article in private and pending status are
 > viewable if the Reviewer knows the URL for them unlike other content types
 > like News Item and Document which notifies the reviewer when a certain news
 > items or document are in pending mode.
I do not fully understand the problem description.

When you are complaining that your reviewers do not see pending
CMF Articles:

This is implemented by a so called DC Workflow "Worklist".

A worklist is essentially a catalog query, you can customize
  TTW (Through The Web).

When you do not see some pending objects, the catalog query
  does not return them. This may be a permission issue
  or the objects do not have the "correct" workflow state
  (as expressed by the workflow variable "review_state").
  This may happen when the objects have their own workflow.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:53:41 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:53:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] which one is better running zope with it  own python or with the OS python
In-Reply-To: <20021217100921.66942.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021217100921.66942.qmail@web12706.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15872.64629.259601.437734@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Hamzat Kamal writes:
 > ...
 > Firstly, how do I
 > know if zope is using it own python or is using the python that come with
 > the OS.
You go to "Control_Panel --> Debug Information"
and look for "sys.path".

It lists the directories, Python looks for modules and packages.
These include the Python library.

When you see that the Python library is used from inside your
Zope installation, you use Zope's Python.
When it comes from "/usr/lib" or "/usr/local/lib", the standard
Python is used.

> Secondly, which one will give me optimum performance? that is
 > running zope with it own python or with the OS python. And lastly, how do
 > i configure zope to either use it own python or OS python.
Generate your own Python from sources.

Binary distributions cannot be as much optimized as objects generated in
your environment.

With SuSE Linux 7.3, I got a 50 % improvement (17 k pystones
  versus 11 k) when I forgot about the distributed Python and
  generated my own from the sources.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:44:45 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:44:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Transparent Folder problem on windows
In-Reply-To: <20021217072040.GA31514@hbcse.tifr.res.in>
References: <20021217072040.GA31514@hbcse.tifr.res.in>
Message-ID: <15872.64093.709485.175514@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Shashank Ashtikar writes:
 > ....
 > I have an instance of product say 'SomeInstance' inside this I have a transparent
 > folder as 'Programs' which is containing dtml and python script files which I need. 
 > 
 > If I type the path as follows
 > 
 > "http://localhost:8080/SomeInstance/scriptname" this works on linux perfectly fine( I use 
 > mozilla as well as galeon for managing zope server ) but when I type the same path on
 > a windows m/c using IE 6.0, IE throws an error saying 
 > 
 > "can not locate "http://localhost:8080/SomeInstance/scriptname" 
 > 
 > if I modify the path as follows then it works.
 > 
 > "http://localhost:8080/SomeInstance/Programs/scriptname" 
 > 
 > can some one tell me why this is hapening and is there a solution to solve this problem.
Are you sure, you installed "TransparentFolder" in your Windows
installation?

It seems that you did not or that it is not working under Windows.
Go to "Control Panel --> Product Management --> Transparent Folder"
and see whether you find there any hint (a "Traceback" tab).

If that does not give you a glue, activate Zope logging (-->
"Doc/LOGGING.txt"), restart and look into the log file.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 22:59:20 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:59:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CatalogPathAwareness and manage_beforeDelete
In-Reply-To: <200212171812.05189.kedai@kedai.com.my>
References: <200212171812.05189.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <15872.64968.973840.352635@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bakhtiar A Hamid writes:
 > hello all
 > i have a product that subclass CatalogPathAwareness and SimpleItem all works 
 > ok.  i,e an object instance will be added and deleted from the catalog
 > 
 > however, if i override manage_beforeDelete, the catalog is not cleared when i 
 > delete the object instance
 > 
 > is that natural?
Yes, as cataloging uses the hooks provided by
"manage_afterAdd" and "manage_beforeDelete".

> do i have to supply my own uncatalog_object ?
No.

But you probably should call the overridden "manage_beforeDelete".

> with this snippet, it still doesnt work.  i guess i don't get what uid for 
 > uncatalog_object is ...
 > 
 > here's the snippet
 > 
 >         def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container):
 >                 """method for delete /cut/paste/rename"""
 >                 img_dir = getattr(self.aq_parent, 'images')
 >                 img_dir.manage_delObjects([item.getId()+'_image'])
 >                 self.uncatalog_object(item.absolute_url(1))
Try:
           def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container):
                   """method for delete /cut/paste/rename"""
		   <YourClass>.inheritedAttribute('manage_beforeDelete')(self,item,container)
                   img_dir = getattr(self.aq_parent, 'images')
                   img_dir.manage_delObjects([item.getId()+'_image'])

You must (of course) replace "<YourClass>" with the name of your class.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:09:51 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:09:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck. (PythonSc ript bug)
In-Reply-To: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E230510@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
References: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E230510@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <15873.63.530908.759001@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca writes:
 > Well, I tried to look at the PythonScript issue, and it looks like there's
 > definitely something "odd" going on here ...
 > 
 > As Jo suggested, I tried "cleaning out" my variables at the end of my Python
 > Scripts ... I didn't do this for ALL of them though, just the most used
 > ones, which actually aren't CMF related (Search Engine is one) ...
 > 
 > And now what happens is the memory grows, BUT, at some point, the Zope
 > process DIES with a SIG11 (Aieeee!), restarts, and voila, of course, the
 > memory is clean.
Are you sure, you use Python 2.1.3 and at least Zope 2.4.4 or 2.5.1?

If you do, I would be very astonished when explicit clearing of
Python script variables were still necessary. (We do not clear
any Python script variables and do not see disturbing leaks).

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Dec 18 23:23:36 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:23:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <000b01c2a692$64e12d30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>
References: <20021218114147.4599.qmail@ireland.com>
 <000b01c2a692$64e12d30$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>
Message-ID: <15873.888.599616.277127@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lennart Regebro writes:
 > From: "Kieran OSullivan" <kieran.osullivan@ireland.com>
 > > Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient
 > 
 > Zope generates any HTML you want it to, so you have no problem doing this.
However, the pages generated by Zope's management interface
may not (probably will) be WAI compliant.

If necessary, you must provide your own pages...

Dieter

From Bryan@capitanoweb.com  Wed Dec 18 15:59:10 2002
From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:59:10 -0800
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
In-Reply-To: <3E0078C4.5080708@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>

Some people call it "508 Accessibility" for short, based on Section 508 of
the United States Rehabilitation Act of 1973. Because this is where it all
started. Here's some links:

http://tap.orst.edu/508brief.htm
http://www.section508.gov/
http://www.jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm
http://www.webaim.org/standards/508/checklist

U.S. government and educational institutions have started cracking the whip
recently to comply with these 508 accessibility standards on the web. As
with other posters, I agree Zope has no problems here. The resulting HTML
(whether it adheres to 508 rules or not) is completely up to the individual
coder, and not so much with Zope. It would be interesting however, to see a
breakdown of how well the current list of 669 Zope products complies with
Section 508 Web Accessibility standards. Anybody have such a list?

Bryan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> Tonico Strasser
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:32 AM
> To: Jens Vagelpohl
> Cc: Kieran OSullivan; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
>
>
> Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> > WAI? what's that?
> >
> > jens
> >
>
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> http://www.w3.org/WAI/
>
> Tonico
>
> >
> > On Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002, at 06:41 US/Eastern, Kieran OSullivan wrote:
> >
> >> Is the HTML/DHTML that zope generates WAI complient?  If not how mcuh
> >> work would it take to make it so?  I've looked all over the web for
> >> this and there doesn't seem to be any info.
> >>
> >> BACKGROUND DO NOT NEED TO READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT
> >> The company I'm working for have a contract with a government agency
> >> so the code has to be WAI complient the contest so far is between
> >> SharePoint, Lotus Notes and Zope.  Lotus Notes is hopeless at WAI
> >> Complience and SharePoint has no info on the subject.
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> >
>
>
> --
> Tonico Strasser, WebDesigner
>
> Contact me
>    mailto:contact_tonico@yahoo.de
>
> Visit my HomePage
>    http://Tonico.FreeZope.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 19 01:19:12 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:19:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server
In-Reply-To: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGAEHICJAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECIEOCIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

You can try JMeter available from
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Roel
Van den Bergh
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:21 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server

Hi all,

some users are complaining about low traffic speed.

Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server from
an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).

Any tip would very much be apreciated.

TIA, Roel.

Running Zope 2.5.1 on RedHat 7.3, Apache and Webmin

From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Dec 19 01:39:30 2002
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:39:30 -0800
Subject: [Zope] WAI Complient Code
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>
Message-ID: <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main>

> It would be interesting however, to see a
> breakdown of how well the current list of 669 Zope products complies with
> Section 508 Web Accessibility standards. Anybody have such a list?

That would be a lot of work to do and I doubt there is such a list. However
I could give you an educated the guess that it would be pretty close to zero
percent ;)

Actually you'll probably find a good percentage don't output HTML that is
meant to be displayed to the end user anyway...
--
  Andy McKay

From usenet2@samba-choro.com.br  Thu Dec 19 02:59:11 2002
From: usenet2@samba-choro.com.br (Paulo Eduardo Neves)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:59:11 -0200
Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade
In-Reply-To: <15872.65232.765832.332032@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <200212171115.44579.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br> <15872.65232.765832.332032@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200212190059.11568.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br>

Em Quarta 18 Dezembro 2002 21:03, Dieter Maurer escreveu:
> Paulo Eduardo Neves writes:
>  > I've just upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.6. In the process, I've also
>  > changed some things (e.g., changed from SiteRoot/SiteAccess to
>  > VHM). My problem now is that XML-RPC calls aren't working any
>  > more. I always get a /RPC2 NotFound error.  Here is the output of
>  > calling a simple python script:
>  >
>  > ################################333
>  > python
>  > Python 2.1.3 (#4, May 23 2002, 15:13:21)
>  > [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)] on linux2
>  > Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>  > Welcome to Lazy Python.  Type "help LazyPython" for help.
>  >
>  > >>> import xmlrpclib
>  > >>> s = xmlrpclib.Server('http://www.samba-choro.com.br')
>  > >>> s.testXMLRPC()
>
> Try:
>
>   s = xmlrpclib.Server('http://www.samba-choro.com.br/testXMLRPC')
>   s()

Now, instead of a NotFound with the resource /RC2, I've got an unspecied 
not found error. The url is working, it is a simple python script, you 
can click on it.

Does anyone got XML-RPC working in version 2.6.0?

thanks for your answer,
-- 
Paulo Eduardo Neves
Agenda do Samba & Choro, o boteco virtual do samba e choro
http://www.samba-choro.com.br

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 19 03:22:17 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:22:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade
In-Reply-To: <200212190059.11568.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEOEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

I am using xmlrpc with Zope 2.6 with no problems.  I am calling a script
that calls a ZSQL method from a cron job with the following code:

from xmlrpclib import Server
  server = Server('http://localhost:8080/Blah/WebService/')
  results = server.sql28Cron()
  print results

In looking at this code vs. the code you are running I notice that the only
difference is that the text defining my server name ends with a '/'.  I'd
try adding the '/' and see what happens...

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Paulo
Eduardo Neves
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:59 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade

Now, instead of a NotFound with the resource /RC2, I've got an unspecied
not found error. The url is working, it is a simple python script, you
can click on it.

Does anyone got XML-RPC working in version 2.6.0?

thanks for your answer,
--
Paulo Eduardo Neves
Agenda do Samba & Choro, o boteco virtual do samba e choro
http://www.samba-choro.com.br

From Gibson_W@VANUATU.USP.AC.FJ  Thu Dec 19 03:29:30 2002
From: Gibson_W@VANUATU.USP.AC.FJ (Wilford Gibson)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:29:30 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Error when Upgrading Zope 2.5.1 to Zope 2.6.0
Message-ID: <F9AAB2D84EFBD511966A00508B2D80635C8C66@beast.vanuatu.usp.ac.fj>

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An error occur when I try upgrading from Zope 2.5.1 to 2.6.0
 
I have been looking for a specific documentation on upgrading zope 2.5.1 to
2.6.0 but could not find one. I therefore used the Upgrading guide for
upgrading zope 2.x.x to 2.x.x . I have manage to install correctly but when
import Data.fs form my old Version 2.5.1 to 2.6.0 in the Zope Management
Interface try to view the Site Portal it displays me an error.
 
The error is pasted below.
 
Your help in any way is very much appreciated.
 
I thank you in advance for your understanding and help 
 
Thanks 
 
Below is the error message I received
****************************************************************************
******************************
Site Error
 
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
 
KeyError
Sorry, a site error occurred.
 
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
Module Zope, line 171, in zpublisher_exception_hook
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
KeyError: css_inline_or_link (Also, an error occurred while attempting to
render the standard error message.)
 
Troubleshooting Suggestions
The URL may be incorrect.
The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.
 
For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML
source for this page.
 
If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your
patience.

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>An error occur when I try upgrading from <span =
class=3DSpellE>Zope</span>
2.5.1 to 2.6.0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I have been looking for a specific documentation on upgrading =
zope
2.5.1 to 2.6.0 but could not find one. I therefore used the Upgrading =
guide for
upgrading zope 2.x.x to 2.x.x . I have manage to install correctly but =
when
import Data.fs form my old Version 2.5.1 to 2.6.0 in the Zope =
Management
Interface try to view the Site Portal it displays me an =
error.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The error is pasted below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Your help in any way is very much =
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I thank you in advance for your understanding and help <font
color=3Dnavy><span =
style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>=

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Below is the error message I =
received<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>An
error was encountered while publishing this =
resource.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Sorry,
a site error occurred.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Traceback
(innermost last):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in =
publish_module<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
Zope, line 171, in =
zpublisher_exception_hook<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in =
call_object<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in =
__call__<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Module
DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in =
__call__<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>KeyError:
css_inline_or_link (Also, an error occurred while attempting to render =
the
standard error message.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Troubleshooting
Suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The
URL may be incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The
parameters passed to this resource may be =
incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>A
resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an =
error.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>For
more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML =
source for
this page.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>If
the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for =
your
patience.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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From eugen@sifolt.ro  Thu Dec 19 07:06:05 2002
From: eugen@sifolt.ro (Eugen Nedelcu)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:06:05 +0200
Subject: [Zope] javascript and ZPT
In-Reply-To: <15873.1032.570141.933140@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1040215156.3e006c7437bdd@mail.sifolt.ro> <15873.1032.570141.933140@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20021219070605.GA372@sifolt.ro>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 12:26:00AM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> eugen@sifolt.ro writes:
>  > ...
>  > <td><input type="checkbox" name="c_row:list:int" tal:attributes="value
>  > row/id"></td>
>  > ......
>  > 
>  > but in this case I dont now how to handle javascript.
> Javascript supports both atribute access as well as subscription syntax.
> 
> When you want to access an attribute with a name containing characters
> invalid in names, you can use:
> 
> 	object['attribute_name']
> 
> 
> 
> Dieter

I need to access an object like this: document.form[0].element_name
where element_name is a group of checkboxes fields which contains 
invalid characters.

AFAIK when a form contains a group of checkboxes with the same name,
they ar placed in an array, and may be referenced like this:

form.checkbox_name[i]
form.elements['name'][j]

Could you be more specific with your solution?

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Dec 19 08:56:30 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:56:30 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <000501c29fc3$53922140$02000000@swl001>
References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> <000501c29fc3$53922140$02000000@swl001>
Message-ID: <20021219085630.GD28278@slinkp.com>

Quick question... What stx engine is used to process
the Zope book? It's a customized version, right?

Is there anywhere that book volunteers (such as myself) can
get the stx engine?  I want to see how my edits are going to 
render, and make sure I haven't borked the structured text.

--PW

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"

From roel@planetinterior.com  Thu Dec 19 09:08:01 2002
From: roel@planetinterior.com (Roel Van den Bergh)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:08:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] RE: how to test connection speed on external zope server
In-Reply-To: <20021219000627.14630.29692.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGGEHNCJAA.roel@planetinterior.com>

Hi all,

Kevin,
Already tried JMeter, lots of trouble installing on W2k.
Got it working but couldn't quite figure out how to read output -> I'm a
No-Tech :-(
Those stats and graphs are not very readable to ordinary users.

I do not kknow how to implement this within Zope or serve to my users as a
statistics page

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Carlson [mailto:khcarlso@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:19 AM
To: roel@planetinterior.com; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server

You can try JMeter available from
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/index.html.

Dieter,
with 'connection speed' I mean real numbers on download-upload.
For example I'm working with ADSL, witch means (in my case) 128 KB down,
20KB up.
Our Zope server is located elsewhere in a data warehouse to "ensure" faster
access.

I know some sites have online "speedometers" like
http://speedtest.zdnet.be/zdnet/default.asp?LanguageCode=be? (this is a
Dutch one)
wich messures your current connection to the internet and other sites.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 12:22 AM
To: roel@planetinterior.com
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] how to test connection speed on external zope server

Roel Van den Bergh writes:
 > some users are complaining about low traffic speed.
 >
 > Is there a way to test and/or log connection speed to the Zope server
from
 > an external source? Preferably from a win station (yeah I know, but ...).
You can use "-M" logging to analyse Zope request processing.
Search the mailing list archives for "requestprofiler".

This does not measure the "connection speed" (do not know what that is).
You may also use "ab" (part of "Apache") for benchmarking.

Dieter

To all the others who kindly replied: still investigating your answers.
I hope I can figure out what you meant :-)

TIA, Roel

From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Thu Dec 19 12:51:10 2002
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:51:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Array question??
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97011BB@PROSERV>

Hi,

This question has two parts. The first is establishing an array element. I
have followed the examples I have found. First let me explain what I am
trying to accomplish. I have an online form that allows the user to input
header information (customer, address, etc) and the next set of forms they
can enter line items that detail the problem with each part number. At the
end, in our company, depending on 2 parameters, will define the signature
block needed for each part (approval/rejected).

For example,

Part1
name1
name2
name3

Part2
name1
name3

Part3
name2
name4

This works, thank god. Now they want a routing list so on the cover page
they would see

name1
name2
name3
name4

I know I need two arrays but I may have the wrong syntax. I need to load all
the names and go through them again looking for dups. If someone has a
better way I am open to suggestions. Here is my code so far. Thanks in
advance.

<dtml-let nameArray="[]">
<dtml-in lookup_doc_control_query>
<dtml-in lookup_product_family>
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('product_id', product_id)">
</dtml-in>
<dtml-in lookup_line_item_query>
    <dtml-in lookup_doc_type_id_query>
    <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('doc_type_id', doc_type_id)">
    </dtml-in>
      <dtml-in lookup_required_app_query sort=designation reverse>
      <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('titleid', titleid)">
       <dtml-in lookup_titles_query>
      <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('titleid', titleid)">
       <dtml-in lookup_authorize_sig_query>
    <dtml-in lookup_employee_query>

<dtml-call "nameArray.append(last_name)">

<dtml-var expr="nameArray.append[sequence-item]">**
</dtml-in>
</dtml-in>
</dtml-in>
         </dtml-in>
       </dtml-in>
     </dtml-in>
</dtml-let>

Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com

From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Thu Dec 19 13:13:18 2002
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:13:18 +0200
Subject: [Zope] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
Message-ID: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

Hello, all.

This a question to advanced ZGurus. ;-)

When I have close a DB connection (exactly ZOracleConnection) and even de=
leted=20
from ZODB, there is still a Oracle session. This is very bad, because cou=
nt=20
of sessions grows very fast. :( In Zope 2.5.0 session between Database an=
d=20
Server timeout is approx. 7-12 min, but in Zope 2.6.0 is probably forewer=
=2E :(=20
Is there some cache of something? If yes, where it can be reduced to mini=
mum?

Does anybody know how to enforce to KILL em immediately and release a ses=
sion=20
between servers? Otherwise Zope goes to be unusable tool for "per-user"=20
connections. :(

--=20
Regards, Bogdan

Of course I use Microsoft. Setting up a stable unix network is no challen=
ge ;p

From js@aixtraware.de  Thu Dec 19 13:18:40 2002
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:18:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Installation of TextIndexNG 1.07 on Sun Solaris fails
Message-ID: <161700000.1040303920@[10.2.1.1]>

Hi,

I have:

Zope Version
(Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, solaris-2.6-sparc), python 2.1.3,=20
sunos5)

Python Version
2.1.3 (#1, Apr 15 2002, 12:32:48) [GCC 2.8.1]

System Platform
sunos5

and installed TextIndexNG 1.07 in the lib/python/Products, did a

python setup.py install

restartet Zope and got a broken TextIndexNG. The traceback in the refresh=20
tab says:

An exception occurred during the last refresh.
Exception type: ImportError
Exception value: ld.so.1: /u/wwwZope/ZopeBase/ZSoftwareHome/bin/python:=20
fatal: libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory

Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen                              Joachim Schmitz
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Dec 19 13:26:05 2002
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:26:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Installation of TextIndexNG 1.07 on Sun Solaris fails
In-Reply-To: <161700000.1040303920@[10.2.1.1]>
References: <161700000.1040303920@[10.2.1.1]>
Message-ID: <22881271.1040307965@[0.0.0.3]>

ensure that the solaris linker can find libgcc_s.so.1.
Usually setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the /your/gcc-installation/path/lib
should solve the problem.

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2002 14:18 +0100 Joachim Schmitz=20
<js@aixtraware.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have:
>
> Zope Version
> (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, solaris-2.6-sparc), python
> 2.1.3, sunos5)
>
> Python Version
> 2.1.3 (#1, Apr 15 2002, 12:32:48) [GCC 2.8.1]
>
> System Platform
> sunos5
>
> and installed TextIndexNG 1.07 in the lib/python/Products, did a
>
> python setup.py install
>
> restartet Zope and got a broken TextIndexNG. The traceback in the refresh
> tab says:
>
> An exception occurred during the last refresh.
> Exception type: ImportError
> Exception value: ld.so.1: /u/wwwZope/ZopeBase/ZSoftwareHome/bin/python:
> fatal: libgcc_s.so.1: open failed: No such file or directory
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen                              Joachim Schmitz
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From huima@fountainpark.org  Thu Dec 19 15:12:52 2002
From: huima@fountainpark.org (Heimo Laukkanen)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:12:52 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Davfs problems with Zope? davfs not working as well as cadaver or
 other clients
Message-ID: <3E01E1F4.9070204@fountainpark.org>

I think I am losing my faith with davfs together with Zope. I am using 
2.6.0 Zope and Davfs 0.2.1. From moment to movent davfs seems to work 
ok, but after a time it seems to become unreliable - and unable to save 
files, create new files and sometimes even old files seem to get lost.

I seem to be able to create from time to time new files with touch and 
pico - and even with emacs. But strange things start to happen later on. 
Saving a file again does not work ( ie. changes will never go to the 
server, eventhough the program thinks it saved the file ). I can remove 
files and create new directories ( folders ), but copying or moving 
files from filesystem to Zope seem to cause problems.

And none of these problems happen with cadaver or using webdrive or 
teamdrive on windows.

Any help would be appreciated. Below is more detailed description and 
info from logs.

Here is what I'm doing.

I have mounted zope webdav on /mnt/dav and have accessed the /mnt/dav 
with user that has appropriate rights to use the mount and the user 
whose credentials were provided with mount is a manager.

/usr/local/sbin/mount.davfs http://127.0.0.1:8081/ /mnt/dav -o 
username=userpuser,password=xsxsxsxs,uid=500,gid=500,mode=755

> cp /home/crappyporntexts/sometextfile.txt juttuputtu.txt

foobar.txt will not be created. In Zope error log ( ZMI ) I find 
following errors. I reversed the order from from the ZMI so the first 
one is the first error that came, and the third one is the last error.

16:07:59     userpuser (userpuser)     Not Found: The requested resource 
does not exist.
16:07:59     userpuser (userpuser)     Not Found: The requested resource 
does not exist.
16:07:59     Anonymous User (None)     Not Found: The requested resource 
was not found.

Inside those error messages are following http-requests that came to 
Zope ( the one at the bottom is the last one):

http://127.0.0.1:8081/vaisalaprod/juttuputtu.txt/PROPFIND
http://127.0.0.1:8081/vaisalaprod/juttuputtu.txt/PROPFIND
http://127.0.0.1:8081/vaisalaprod/juttuputtu.txt/manage_FTPget

And logs of davfs itself ( when compiled with debug option ) show:

webdav.log :
------------

Creating request...
Running request create hooks.
Request created.
Running pre_send hooks
Sending request headers:
PUT /juttuputtu.txt HTTP/1.1
Host: 127.0.0.1:8081
User-Agent: neon/0.23.5 davfs2 0.2.1
Connection: TE
TE: trailers
Content-Length: 2826
Expect: 100-continue
If: <http://127.0.0.1:8081/juttuputtu.txt> 
(<opaquelocktoken:0.121189232931-0.169004412195-00105A989226:1040306879.510>)
Connection: close
Authorization: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sending request-line and headers:
Request sent; retry is 1
Aborted request (-2): Could not read status line
Running destroy hooks.
Request ends.
Creating request...
Running request create hooks.
Request created.
Running pre_send hooks
Sending request headers:
UNLOCK /juttuputtu.txt HTTP/1.1
Host: 127.0.0.1:8081
User-Agent: neon/0.23.5 davfs2 0.2.1
Connection: TE
TE: trailers
Lock-Token: 
<opaquelocktoken:0.121189232931-0.169004412195-00105A989226:1040306879.510>
Connection: close
Authorization: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sending request-line and headers:
Connecting to 127.0.0.1
Request sent; retry is 0
[status-line] < HTTP/1.1 204 No Content
[hdr] Server: Zope/(Zope 2.6.0 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), 
python 2.1.3, linux2) ZServer/1.1b1
Header Name: [server], Value: [Zope/(Zope 2.6.0 (binary release, python 
2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.3, linux2) ZServer/1.1b1]
[hdr] Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:08:29 GMT
Header Name: [date], Value: [Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:08:29 GMT]
[hdr] Content-Length: 0
Header Name: [content-length], Value: [0]
[hdr] Ms-Author-Via: DAV
Header Name: [ms-author-via], Value: [DAV]
[hdr] Etag:
Header Name: [etag], Value: []
[hdr] Accept-Ranges: none
Header Name: [accept-ranges], Value: [none]
[hdr]
End of headers.
Running post_send hooks
Running destroy hooks.
Request ends.

coda.log:
---------
got 083 byte command: opcode = 10  (uid=500,euid=500, 
suid=500,fsuid=500) CODA OPCODE: 10
lookup  base:/  name:juttuputtu.txt
         flags=1: (stat: //juttuputtu.txt)WebDAV URL: /juttuputtu.txt/
WebDAV URL: /juttuputtu.txt
file '//juttuputtu.txt' probably does not exist. returning FAILURE (2), 
28 bytes

got 175 byte command: opcode = 11  (uid=500,euid=500, 
suid=500,fsuid=500) CODA OPCODE: 11

create  base:/  name:juttuputtu.txt
         (create_name: //juttuputtu.txt)New vfid created at 0x8060f20 
(file <//juttuputtu.txt: 0>)
  returning SUCCESS (0), 112 bytes

got 064 byte command: opcode = 03  (uid=500,euid=500, 
suid=500,fsuid=500) CODA OPCODE: 3
open    base://juttuputtu.txt
         flags:0x202 WebDAV URL: /juttuputtu.txt
WebDAV URL: /juttuputtu.txt
  returning SUCCESS (0), 24 bytes

got 064 byte command: opcode = 35  (uid=500,euid=500, 
suid=500,fsuid=500) CODA OPCODE: 35
store What should I save? returning SUCCESS (0), 12 bytes

got 064 byte command: opcode = 36  (uid=500,euid=500, 
suid=500,fsuid=500) CODA OPCODE: 36
close   base://juttuputtu.txt
         CLOSEsaving the file /tmp//davfs2_get_1hModp WebDAV URL: 
/juttuputtu.txt
  the current VFid list has 38 elements
  returning FAILURE (5), 12 bytes

----------

And the file was never created to Zope.

webdavLogger product gives me following log:

--------

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Zope/(Zope 2.6.0 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), 
python 2.1.3, linux2) ZServer/1.1b1
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:43:28 GMT
Ms-Author-Via: DAV
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
Accept-Ranges: none
Etag:
Lock-Token: 
opaquelocktoken:0.364972989961-0.58610452749-00105A989226:1040309008.216
Content-Length: 475

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<d:prop xmlns:d="DAV:">
  <d:lockdiscovery>
    <d:activelock>
   <d:locktype><d:write/></d:locktype>
   <d:lockscope><d:exclusive/></d:lockscope>
   <d:depth>0</d:depth>
  <d:owner><o:href xmlns:o="DAV:">davfs2</o:href></d:owner>
   <d:timeout>Second-720</d:timeout>
   <d:locktoken>
 
<d:href>opaquelocktoken:0.364972989961-0.58610452749-00105A989226:1040309008.216</d:href>
   </d:locktoken>
  </d:activelock>
  </d:lockdiscovery>
</d:prop>

-- but nothing else, when creating new file fails.

----------

-huima

From mackay_d@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 19 15:06:12 2002
From: mackay_d@bellsouth.net (David Mackay)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:06:12 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Object propogation
Message-ID: <3E01E064.7020106@bellsouth.net>

I'm trying to filter the results of a Zsearch, and return the filtered 
results to the user.  I have an external python script which queries a 
textindex, and returns a list of mybrain objects.  I can then build a 
new list with the filtered results, and return that to the dtml method 
which displays the first 20 results with no problem.  I copied the dtml 
method generated by an add Z Search Interface, and modified it to 
process the filtered list.  The problem is that I can't get it to handle 
the next 20 (and so on) results.  The Fresults list that I process the 
first time doesn't propogate to the next iteration.  The results list 
obviously DO propogate for the unaltered search forms.  Does anyone have 
any suggestions?

Dave

From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl  Thu Dec 19 15:45:10 2002
From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:45:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] idea for unique object id's
Message-ID: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E3A@exchange.spc.nl>

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From mj@zope.com  Thu Dec 19 15:53:09 2002
From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade
In-Reply-To: <200212171115.44579.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br>
References: <200212171115.44579.usenet2@samba-choro.com.br>
Message-ID: <20021219155309.GC13997@zope.com>

On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:15:44AM -0200, Paulo Eduardo Neves wrote:
> I've just upgrade from 2.4.3 to 2.6. In the process, I've also changed 
> some things (e.g., changed from SiteRoot/SiteAccess to VHM). My problem 
> now is that XML-RPC calls aren't working any more. I always get a /RPC2 
> NotFound error.  Here is the output of calling a simple python script:
> 
> ################################333
> python
> Python 2.1.3 (#4, May 23 2002, 15:13:21)
> [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-110)] on linux2
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> Welcome to Lazy Python.  Type "help LazyPython" for help.
> >>> import xmlrpclib
> >>> s = xmlrpclib.Server('http://www.samba-choro.com.br')
> >>> s.testXMLRPC()

xmlrpclib defaults to the path /RPC2, which is the Frontier default XML-RPC
server path (Frontier was the first sofwtare to implement XML-RPC). Add a
slash to your URL and things will work just fine.

-- 
Martijn Pieters
| Software Engineer  mailto:mj@zope.com
| Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com/
| Creators of Zope   http://www.zope.org/
---------------------------------------------

From sabaini@inode.at  Thu Dec 19 16:05:16 2002
From: sabaini@inode.at (peter sabaini)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:05:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Davfs problems with Zope? davfs not working as well as
 cadaver or other clients
In-Reply-To: <3E01E1F4.9070204@fountainpark.org>
References: <3E01E1F4.9070204@fountainpark.org>
Message-ID: <3E01EE3C.5090802@inode.at>

Heimo Laukkanen wrote:
> I think I am losing my faith with davfs together with Zope. I am using

Sorry to hear that... Out of curiosity, did you try the same thing with 
another DAV server, eg. Apache/mod_dav or similar?

- peter.

From chrism@zope.com  Thu Dec 19 16:08:42 2002
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 19 Dec 2002 11:08:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <20021219085630.GD28278@slinkp.com>
References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza>
 <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> <000501c29fc3$53922140$02000000@swl001>
 <20021219085630.GD28278@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <1040314123.1499.2.camel@james>

Hi Paul,

The easiest way is probably to create a BackTalk book/document in your
member are on Zope.org... then cut and paste into it.  Or install
BackTalk on one of your own systems (http://backtalk.sourceforge.net).

On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 03:56, Paul Winkler wrote:
> Quick question... What stx engine is used to process
> the Zope book? It's a customized version, right?
> 
> Is there anywhere that book volunteers (such as myself) can
> get the stx engine?  I want to see how my edits are going to 
> render, and make sure I haven't borked the structured text.
> 
> --PW
> 
> Paul Winkler
> http://www.slinkp.com
> "Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
> 
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From kvthan@wm.edu  Thu Dec 19 04:34:53 2002
From: kvthan@wm.edu (kapil thangavelu)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:34:53 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
In-Reply-To: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu>

On Thursday 19 December 2002 05:13 am, Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
> Hello, all.
>
> This a question to advanced ZGurus. ;-)
>
> When I have close a DB connection (exactly ZOracleConnection) and even
> deleted from ZODB, there is still a Oracle session. This is very bad,
> because count of sessions grows very fast. :( In Zope 2.5.0 session between
> Database and Server timeout is approx. 7-12 min, but in Zope 2.6.0 is
> probably forewer. :( Is there some cache of something? If yes, where it can
> be reduced to minimum?

i'm wondering if this is a feature not a bug (sorry, i've always wanted to say 
that ;-)... relating to the new zodb cache impl toby did thats in 2.6. what 
exactly are you doing and how are you doing it? are you holding on to 
connections for more than the length of one request, how are you creating 
them, etc.

>
> Does anybody know how to enforce to KILL em immediately and release a
> session between servers? Otherwise Zope goes to be unusable tool for
> "per-user" connections. :(
 
if your using the ttw zmi tools yes, but you can do things like this in 
unrestricted python you should be paying any more penalty than you would 
given the design costs of opening up a db connection per user, which is 
horribly inefficient anyways.

-k

From huima@fountainpark.org  Thu Dec 19 16:38:55 2002
From: huima@fountainpark.org (Heimo Laukkanen)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:38:55 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Davfs problems with Zope? davfs not working as well as
 cadaver or other clients
References: <3E01E1F4.9070204@fountainpark.org> <3E01EE3C.5090802@inode.at>
Message-ID: <3E01F61F.40601@fountainpark.org>

peter sabaini wrote:

> Sorry to hear that... Out of curiosity, did you try the same thing with 
> another DAV server, eg. Apache/mod_dav or similar?

Not yet. I don't have the energy to now setup also mod_dav - but would 
like to try the davfs over the net to someone's server.

One of my firends confirmed similar difficulties with Zope 2.6.0 and 
davfs on Redhat 8.0 - and out of curiosity I'm interested wether 
anyone else have similar problems.

-- 
Heimo Laukkanen
Oy Fountain Park Ltd
Hämeentie 153 B, 00560 Helsinki, Finland
tel. +358 9 777 68 161, gsm +358 40 759 1110, fax +358 9 777 68 100
http://www.fountainpark.com

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Dec 19 16:41:55 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:41:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <1040314123.1499.2.camel@james>
References: <1039148432.1413.67.camel@james> <8686420.1039175672@liza> <1039186259.1414.8.camel@james> <000501c29fc3$53922140$02000000@swl001> <20021219085630.GD28278@slinkp.com> <1040314123.1499.2.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20021219164155.GA8410@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 11:08:42AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> The easiest way is probably to create a BackTalk book/document in your
> member are on Zope.org... then cut and paste into it.  Or install
> BackTalk on one of your own systems (http://backtalk.sourceforge.net).

ah, thanks, that's exactly what i needed.
Now I can document 2.6.1 *in* 2.6.1 (cvs).  :)

--PW

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
Look! Up in the sky! It's MILDLY- INVADER!
(courtesy of isometric.spaceninja.com)

From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Thu Dec 19 17:38:58 2002
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:38:58 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
In-Reply-To: <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu>
References: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu>
Message-ID: <200212191938.58889.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Thursday 19 December 2002 06:34, kapil thangavelu wrote:
> design costs of opening up a db connection per user, which is
> horribly inefficient anyways.

Hmm. But Oracle J2EE can do that via Web.

--=20
Regards, Bogdan

I'm a shareware signature!  Send $2 if you use me, $10 for a manual.

From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Thu Dec 19 17:47:36 2002
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:47:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] idea for unique object id's
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431BA4@desi2>

Check out BTreeFolder2; install it and read its source briefly, you'l=
l get
what you need

http://cvs.zope.org/Products/BTreeFolder2/.

Sean
-----Original Message-----
=46rom: Dani=EBl Hooymans [mailto:d.hooymans@edufocus.nl]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:45 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] idea for unique object id's

Hi all,
=20
Is it an idea to make a Folderish class which will generate a unique =
id when
an object is added to it.
Perhaps anyone has already done something like this?
=20
Greetz,
=20
Daniel

From creiman@kefta.com  Thu Dec 19 18:25:06 2002
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:25:06 -0800
Subject: [Zope] idea for unique object id's
In-Reply-To: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E3A@exchange.spc.nl>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKMEDFCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>

People ask for UIDs pretty often. It's a bit tricky to do right. It must be
high bandwidth, guaranteed correct, resistant to DOS attacks, and unlikely
to make the ZODB grow wildly. It would be good to have a solid
Zope-Seal-of-Approval solution in the box.

I had a need for this but didn't need anything quite so robust. This
simple/stupid solution rolls over in about 12 years and can generate 10
unique ids per second (I think. I should have written it down). In my case
the application is behind a firewall with select client access so a more
serious solution is not necessary.

# I used to generate this ID in an separate python object but I
# couldn't make the security work. Very strange.
new_id = 'z%08x' % ((DateTime.DateTime().timeTime()-1040000000.0)*10.0)

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Daniël
Hooymans
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:45 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] idea for unique object id's

Hi all,

Is it an idea to make a Folderish class which will generate a unique id when
an object is added to it.
Perhaps anyone has already done something like this?

Greetz,

Daniel

From kvthan@wm.edu  Thu Dec 19 06:55:55 2002
From: kvthan@wm.edu (kapil thangavelu)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:55:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
In-Reply-To: <200212191938.58889.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu> <200212191938.58889.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <200212182255.55533.kvthan@wm.edu>

On Thursday 19 December 2002 09:38 am, Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
> On Thursday 19 December 2002 06:34, kapil thangavelu wrote:
> > design costs of opening up a db connection per user, which is
> > horribly inefficient anyways.
>
> Hmm. But Oracle J2EE can do that via Web.

unless there is some mechanism of switching a user after a connection is made 
your basically talking about starting up an oracle process for every new 
user/connection. of course, oracle might have some special internal hooks... 
ah the joy of closed source dbs. ;-)

regardless of the design choices, if you want some help with your problem, it 
would help to have some answers to the forensic questions i asked.

-k

From Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca  Thu Dec 19 18:51:55 2002
From: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca (Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:51:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck. (PythonSc
 ript bug)
Message-ID: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E230518@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>

Dieter,

I most definitely use Python 2.1.3 ...

I however AM using 2.5.0 ... A bit old I know, I'm about to start working on
upgrading when 2.6.1 comes out ...

Are there specific bugs in 2.5.0 that could be causing this behavior? I
vaguely recall looking at the Change Log and Collector, but not finding much
about any kind of memory leak ...

For now I AM going to try and remove any use I make of REQUEST.set, see if
that helps ...

Thanks!
J.F.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:10 PM
To: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca
Cc: zope@zope.org; jo@meder.de
Subject: RE: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck.
(PythonSc ript bug)

Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca writes:
 > Well, I tried to look at the PythonScript issue, and it looks like
there's
 > definitely something "odd" going on here ...
 > 
 > As Jo suggested, I tried "cleaning out" my variables at the end of my
Python
 > Scripts ... I didn't do this for ALL of them though, just the most used
 > ones, which actually aren't CMF related (Search Engine is one) ...
 > 
 > And now what happens is the memory grows, BUT, at some point, the Zope
 > process DIES with a SIG11 (Aieeee!), restarts, and voila, of course, the
 > memory is clean.
Are you sure, you use Python 2.1.3 and at least Zope 2.4.4 or 2.5.1?

If you do, I would be very astonished when explicit clearing of
Python script variables were still necessary. (We do not clear
any Python script variables and do not see disturbing leaks).

Dieter

From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Thu Dec 19 19:17:50 2002
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:17:50 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
In-Reply-To: <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu>
References: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu>
Message-ID: <200212192117.50272.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Thursday 19 December 2002 06:34, kapil thangavelu wrote:
> say that ;-)... relating to the new zodb cache impl toby did thats in 2=
=2E6.
> what exactly are you doing and how are you doing it? are you holding on=
 to
> connections for more than the length of one request, how are you creati=
ng
> them, etc.

I create a connection with unique ID for each logged in user. Therefore u=
ser=20
should run only one thread of its unique connect (at least I guess Zope w=
ill=20
not clone it somehow). The only think I found is to _delete_ a=20
self._v_database_connection on manage_close_connection() in=20
=2E./Shared/DC/..../Connection.py and it even works as I expect. But I'm =
not=20
sure it is right way.

--=20
Regards, Bogdan

One picture is worth 128K words.

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Thu Dec 19 19:17:46 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:17:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Easier maintenance than through management iface?
Message-ID: <20021219191746.GA6132@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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Hi Zopers,

Please excuse the length of this email. I'd greatly appreciate if
you'd read through it nevertheless and give me some feedback.

Our lab wants to change the website[1] over to a content management
system. I am not so much in favour of these Slashdot-like
PHP-integrated packages, and so I started looking into Zope. It's not
my first time that I am playing around with it, but I guess it's safe
to say that I am still a newbie.

1. http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/ailab/

I would like to use Zope for this purpose because of the positive
feedback I got, and because it's an excellent opportunity for me to
learn Zope (which I wanted to do for a while) by doing it.

However, we have a couple of requirements for a CMS, and while I know
that Zope is very extensible (and it not really being a CMS per se),
I have not been able to meet these requirements with a test
installation (of Debian's Zope 2.5.1).

I like the management interface, but I can't expect everyone at the
lab to use it, nor can I really expect them to do either of ZPT or
DTML. Ideally, I want to get rid of HTML for the end-user as a whole.
I would like to provide templates for the main parts of the website
and let authorized users maintain the data contained through forms via
the web browser.

They should be able to do simple formatting (like in a Wiki), but they
should not be able to influence the structure of the documents.
I think about this in terms of a <span> tag surrounding the part that
a user can edit, and an edit button provided alongside (only if e.g.
the user comes from our IP space). The rest of the page they cannot
influence, they can only change the content.

My first question is: does Zope provide such a framework? I looked at
the CMF, but I didn't find what I was searching. I need no member
management (the authorized editors should be handled by Zope's ACLs),
I need no forum-posting-comment thing, but I want full control over
the structure and layout, while giving the authenticated users full
control over contents.

One way of approaching this is to use a database backend for the
information, and to provide simple editing forms for the user.
However, The data to be stored is not really susceptible to storage in
a relational database as it's too diverse. Moreover, I'd have to
provide editing forms for every type of modification, and last but not
least, the user could not edit in place but would have to go somewhere
entirely different if a change is needed.

I would like to roll out Zope, but I need to make it easier for the
users. Zope is way more powerful than HTML (obviously), but the only
argument that will fly and support my proposed change over to using
your (excellent) software is if the users' life will be simplified.
Can Zope achieve this?

Thanks, and sorry again for the length of this post! If we're
successful it is likely that the entire computer science department of
the University of Zurich will soon follow...

--=20
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Ph.D. Student                      Department of Information Technology
Email: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch         University of Zurich
Tel: +41.(0)1.63-54323             Winterthurerstrasse 190
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From dave@loewen.com  Thu Dec 19 19:19:46 2002
From: dave@loewen.com (dave@loewen.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:19:46 -0600
Subject: [Zope] PIL error: decoder jpeg not available
Message-ID: <OF5E7BBF6F.A567F57B-ON86256C94.006A2215-86256C94.006A2850@loewen.com>

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I'm desperately trying to get PIL going under Zope, so I can run the
Photo and Photo Folder products.

Everything seems to be working fine as long as I stick to .gif
images-- I can create a photo folder, add photo docs, pregenerate
thumbnails, etc.

However, it breaks when I try to use a .jpg image. When I try to
create a photo doc with a .jpg, I get the following error:

*  Module PIL.Image, line 255, in _getdecoder
     IOError: decoder jpeg not available

OK, so i've searched all the lists I can find, and it seems as if i
don't have JPEG support compiled into PIL.

If I go to /var/zope/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL and run "ldd
_imaging.so", I get:

libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
     /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)

I believe I should have a line in there like "libjpeg.so.6 =>
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6". But I don't. So I believe this means that I
need to recompile the PIL libraries? I went back to my PIL /libImaging
folder and tried manually editing the ImConfig.h file. I uncommented
the line

/* Define if you have the IJG jpeg library (-ljpeg).  */
     #undef HAVE_LIBJPEG */

then re-run make, but the new "_imaging.so" still doesn't seem to be
linked to libjpeg.so.6.

I think i'm close, but I can't quite get there. How do I recompile PIL
with JPG support? Sorry for being an idiot here, but can someone help
drag me the last 10 feet to victory?

--dave
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">I'm desperately trying to get PIL going under Zope, so I can run the<br>
Photo and Photo Folder products.<br>
<br>
Everything seems to be working fine as long as I stick to .gif<br>
images-- I can create a photo folder, add photo docs, pregenerate<br>
thumbnails, etc.<br>
<br>
However, it breaks when I try to use a .jpg image. When I try to<br>
create a photo doc with a .jpg, I get the following error:<br>
<br>
     *  Module PIL.Image, line 255, in _getdecoder<br>
     IOError: decoder jpeg not available<br>
<br>
OK, so i've searched all the lists I can find, and it seems as if i<br>
don't have JPEG support compiled into PIL.<br>
<br>
If I go to /var/zope/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL and run "ldd<br>
_imaging.so", I get:<br>
<br>
     libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)<br>
     /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)<br>
<br>
I believe I should have a line in there like "libjpeg.so.6 =><br>
/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6". But I don't. So I believe this means that I<br>
need to recompile the PIL libraries? I went back to my PIL /libImaging<br>
folder and tried manually editing the ImConfig.h file. I uncommented<br>
the line<br>
<br>
     /* Define if you have the IJG jpeg library (-ljpeg).  */<br>
     #undef HAVE_LIBJPEG */<br>
<br>
then re-run make, but the new "_imaging.so" still doesn't seem to be<br>
linked to libjpeg.so.6.<br>
<br>
I think i'm close, but I can't quite get there. How do I recompile PIL<br>
with JPG support? Sorry for being an idiot here, but can someone help<br>
drag me the last 10 feet to victory?<br>
<br>
--dave</font>
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From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 18:27:50 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:27:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] javascript and ZPT
In-Reply-To: <20021219070605.GA372@sifolt.ro>
References: <1040215156.3e006c7437bdd@mail.sifolt.ro>
 <15873.1032.570141.933140@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <20021219070605.GA372@sifolt.ro>
Message-ID: <15874.4006.156726.550620@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Eugen Nedelcu writes:
 > ....
 > I need to access an object like this: document.form[0].element_name
 > where element_name is a group of checkboxes fields which contains 
 > invalid characters.
Try: "document.form[0]['element_name']"

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 19:05:10 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:05:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Array question??
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97011BB@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97011BB@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <15874.6246.660061.150244@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

McDonnell, Larry writes:
 > ...
 > This works, thank god. Now they want a routing list so on the cover page
 > they would see
 > ...
 > I know I need two arrays but I may have the wrong syntax. I need to load all
 > the names and go through them again looking for dups. If someone has a
 > better way I am open to suggestions. Here is my code so far. Thanks in
 > advance.
Do it in a Python Script.

You can use a dictionary to efficiently find duplicates.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 18:47:09 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:47:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] chr(eval(self.myhex)) works in Python console, not in python product?
In-Reply-To: <atqkvc$sa2$2@main.gmane.org>
References: <atqkvc$sa2$2@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <15874.5165.753332.722308@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jeff Kowalczyk writes:
 > If the following works:
 > >>> class Foo:
 > ...  def __init__(self):
 > ...   self.myhex = '0x2a'
 > ...  def bar(self):
 > ...   print chr(eval(self.myhex))
 > ...
 > >>> foo = Foo()
 > >>> foo.bar()
 > *
 > in Zope's python console (2.1.3),
 > 
 > But in a Zope Python product method the same sort of thing fails:
 > 
 > Error Type: SyntaxError
 > Error Value: unexpected EOF while parsing (line 0)
A long time ago, I saw a similar problem report in "c.l.p".
Guido recommended to add 1 or 2 newlines after the string.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 18:54:26 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:54:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Exceptions in Python Script
In-Reply-To: <200212182154.26085.kevin@movieextras.ie>
References: <200212182154.26085.kevin@movieextras.ie>
Message-ID: <15874.5602.409465.794197@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Gill writes:
 > Can anyone point me towards documentation / howtos / information on handling 
 > exceptions in python scripts (scripts not 'external methods').
Apparently, someone forget that exception handling may be interesting
in Python Scripts.

He forgot to provide the necessary security declarations.

When you can add/change products, you can provide the missing
security declarations. See the "Readme" tab of the
"PythonScripts" product.

Once, you did this, you can handle exceptions in the normal way.

The standard Python exceptions can be imported from the
"exceptions" module.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 18:49:14 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:49:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] High CPU usage on ExtFile objects?
In-Reply-To: <3E00E435.8050301@utulsa.edu>
References: <3E00E435.8050301@utulsa.edu>
Message-ID: <15874.5290.50354.6759@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ben Chapman writes:
 > We're running our law school web-site on Zope 2.4.3 (source release, 
 > python 2.1, linux2). Zope is running through Apache pcgi.
Drop it in favour of mod_proxy/rewrite rule integration
(though it probably is unrelated to your current problem).

> Our Data.fs is about 130MB in size. In addition we have two large 
 > directories of external image/external file objects. Occasionally, we 
 > see CPU usage shoot to 99.9% when attempting to view large (up to 8MB in 
 > size) PDFs stored as ExtFile objects in these folders.
This is not really big.

When you can reproduce the problem, activate Zope's profiling
and see where it spends its time.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 19:08:05 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:08:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Object propogation
In-Reply-To: <3E01E064.7020106@bellsouth.net>
References: <3E01E064.7020106@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15874.6421.940010.735288@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David Mackay writes:
 > I'm trying to filter the results of a Zsearch, and return the filtered 
 > results to the user.  I have an external python script which queries a 
 > textindex, and returns a list of mybrain objects.  I can then build a 
 > new list with the filtered results, and return that to the dtml method 
 > which displays the first 20 results with no problem.  I copied the dtml 
 > method generated by an add Z Search Interface, and modified it to 
 > process the filtered list.  The problem is that I can't get it to handle 
 > the next 20 (and so on) results.  The Fresults list that I process the 
 > first time doesn't propogate to the next iteration.  The results list 
 > obviously DO propogate for the unaltered search forms.  Does anyone have 
 > any suggestions?
The result list is *NEVER* propagated between requests.

Zope reexecutes the query and uses a different "window" onto the result.

Apparently, when you use your filtered result, the query can no longer
be reexecuted. Usually, this happens for "POST" requests when
you use "sequence-query" (or "QUERY_STRING").

Dieter

From ajole-1@gci.net  Thu Dec 19 07:34:02 2002
From: ajole-1@gci.net (Patrick Stinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:34:02 -0900
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <DGEJJGCKEJIEOAABJNHMAEMNCCAA.ajole-1@gci.net>

I woke up this mornning to find the win32 python service (2.6)running away
and stairstepping itself beyond 450M of mem usage. it had read/written 64
megs. wierd. anyone seen this before?

From uwe@schuerkamp.de  Thu Dec 19 19:45:39 2002
From: uwe@schuerkamp.de (Uwe Schuerkamp)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:45:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Tru64 problems
In-Reply-To: <15873.1155.523744.421885@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20021218143955.GK29911@nionex.net> <15873.1155.523744.421885@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20021219194539.GA3963@hoover.dynip.de>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 12:28:03AM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Uwe Schuerkamp writes:
>  > Hi folks, 
>  > 
>  > whenever I try to "find objects" within a Zcatalog on Tru64 Unix
>  > (python 2.1.3 compiled from source), Zope crashes with the following
>  > error:
>  > 
>  > zdaemon Process 10468 terminated by signal SIGFPE(8)
> This is a "Floating Point Exception", probably an underflow.
> 
> I remember that floating point exceptions (at least for underflow)
> can be controlled via a system call.
> Check your manual pages and see whether (1) I am right and (2) whether
> the system call is available in Python.
> 
> 
> Dieter

Hi Dieter,

a bit of googling turned up the following URL:

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/dev-archive.nsf/b1b1e2c766c8f6c7802568c1006328f1/2331c7b1e01b3b4b80256c290060890b?OpenDocument

so it looks like there is indeed a problem with Python on that
platform, although in my case it's based on DEC HW (Alpha platform).

The problem seems to be specific to adding "summary" to the meta_type
list in a Catalog, and re-indexing on that field. Is there any way to
provide more Zope-specific info on this problem?

Cheers & thanks for your answer,

uwe

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From lennart@regebro.nu  Thu Dec 19 20:03:39 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:03:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] PIL error: decoder jpeg not available
References: <OF5E7BBF6F.A567F57B-ON86256C94.006A2215-86256C94.006A2850@loewen.com>
Message-ID: <00ac01c2a799$bd60d570$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: <dave@loewen.com>
> I'm desperately trying to get PIL going under Zope, so I can run the
> Photo and Photo Folder products.

Have you read http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope/ ?

> 
> Everything seems to be working fine as long as I stick to .gif
> images-- I can create a photo folder, add photo docs, pregenerate
> thumbnails, etc.
> 
> However, it breaks when I try to use a .jpg image. When I try to
> create a photo doc with a .jpg, I get the following error:
> 
>      *  Module PIL.Image, line 255, in _getdecoder
>      IOError: decoder jpeg not available
> 
> OK, so i've searched all the lists I can find, and it seems as if i
> don't have JPEG support compiled into PIL.
> 
> If I go to /var/zope/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL and run "ldd
> _imaging.so", I get:
> 
>      libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
>      /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
> 
> I believe I should have a line in there like "libjpeg.so.6 =>
> /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6". But I don't. So I believe this means that I
> need to recompile the PIL libraries? I went back to my PIL /libImaging
> folder and tried manually editing the ImConfig.h file. I uncommented
> the line
> 
>      /* Define if you have the IJG jpeg library (-ljpeg).  */
>      #undef HAVE_LIBJPEG */
> 
> then re-run make, but the new "_imaging.so" still doesn't seem to be
> linked to libjpeg.so.6.
> 
> I think i'm close, but I can't quite get there. How do I recompile PIL
> with JPG support? Sorry for being an idiot here, but can someone help
> drag me the last 10 feet to victory?
> 
> --dave

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Dec 19 20:21:52 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:21:52 -0800
Subject: [Zope] idea for unique object id's
In-Reply-To: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKMEDFCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E3A@exchange.spc.nl> <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKMEDFCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>
Message-ID: <20021219202152.GA20174@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 10:25:06AM -0800, Charlie Reiman wrote:
> People ask for UIDs pretty often. It's a bit tricky to do right. It must be
> high bandwidth, guaranteed correct, resistant to DOS attacks, and unlikely
> to make the ZODB grow wildly. It would be good to have a solid
> Zope-Seal-of-Approval solution in the box.

FYI: Zope3 will provide a way to get RUIDs (Registry Unique IDs)
that will remain constant regardless of renaming the
object, moving it to a different folder, etc.
This is part of the plan for allowing the creation
of reliable relationships between objects.

http://www.zope.org//Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ObjectHub

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
Look! Up in the sky! It's THE TENSILE SEEKER!
(courtesy of isometric.spaceninja.com)

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Dec 19 20:35:50 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Easier maintenance than through management iface?
In-Reply-To: <20021219191746.GA6132@fishbowl.madduck.net>
References: <20021219191746.GA6132@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <20021219203550.GB20174@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 08:17:46PM +0100, Martin F Krafft wrote:
> I like the management interface, but I can't expect everyone at the
> lab to use it, nor can I really expect them to do either of ZPT or
> DTML. Ideally, I want to get rid of HTML for the end-user as a whole.
> I would like to provide templates for the main parts of the website
> and let authorized users maintain the data contained through forms via
> the web browser.
> 
> They should be able to do simple formatting (like in a Wiki), but they
> should not be able to influence the structure of the documents.

You have just described CMF.  Your skin(s) control the page layout
and user interface, and your users can write content in Structured Text.

> My first question is: does Zope provide such a framework? I looked at
> the CMF, but I didn't find what I was searching.

Yes you did, you just found more than you wanted. :)
Remember that CMFDefault (what you get if you install CMF
and create a "CMF Site")  is just an example implementation
... hardly anyone uses it as-is.  Look at Plone and at Nuxeo CPS,
they are both built on CMF and are intended to be ready to deploy.  
Pick the one that's closest to what you want to end up with.

> I need no member
> management (the authorized editors should be handled by Zope's ACLs),

You can have a CMF site use an existing user folder for its
membership source. And you can disable the "join" functionality
in the portal_registration tool.

> I need no forum-posting-comment thing,

you can turn that off in the portal_discussion tool. 
Look in the various tools in a CMF installation.
On each one, look at its Actions tab. Uncheck "visible" on anything
you don't need. Poof, it's removed from the CMF interface.
There are *lots* of things you can disable...

>  but I want full control over
> the structure and layout,

it's all in portal_skins.  The skins tool is very powerful.

> while giving the authenticated users full
> control over contents.

That's what CMF exists for.

I think you should check it out again, and if you change
your mind about it, ask questions on zope-cmf@zope.org.

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
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From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 19 22:24:07 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:24:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Forwarding control from a Python script a DTML method in Zope 2.5.1 used to
work like this:

return _['updoc'](container, request)

Now I am getting a Key error on 'updoc' which is a DTML method in the same
skinned folder as the script.

Any ideas?

Kevin

From C.P.Mills@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk  Thu Dec 19 22:43:31 2002
From: C.P.Mills@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk (Mills Mr C P)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:43:31 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Help with Authentication and Zope 2.6
Message-ID: <1398D0DBAEED324EB0E7CDC181B3B391F3A172@EROS.resource.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>

HELP!!!

I have just upgraded one of my servers to Zope 2.6.0 and am having problems
with authentication.

I have a simple requirement that one folder requires a username and password
to access it's contents. I have created a single username and password (as
this is all that is required) is acl_users and in the security tab of that
folder on the 'view' permission, unchecked 'aquire permissions setting' and
checked 'authenticated'. When I attempt to access the resource, I get
prompted for a username and password three times, before it croaks with an
error usually 'You are not allowed to access <something> in this context'.

This worked fine in 2.5.1. Am I missing something obvious? I know I am
entering the username/password correctly as I have also tried my admin
account which I use in the ZMI.

PLEASE HELP!!!!

Many thanks

Chris Mills
Cranfield University

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Thu Dec 19 22:53:43 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:53:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Help with Authentication and Zope 2.6
In-Reply-To: <1398D0DBAEED324EB0E7CDC181B3B391F3A172@EROS.resource.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>
References: <1398D0DBAEED324EB0E7CDC181B3B391F3A172@EROS.resource.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <attimq$et0$1@main.gmane.org>

Mills Mr C P wrote:
> HELP!!!
> 
> I have just upgraded one of my servers to Zope 2.6.0 and am having problems
> with authentication.
> 
> I have a simple requirement that one folder requires a username and password
> to access it's contents. I have created a single username and password (as
> this is all that is required) is acl_users and in the security tab of that
> folder on the 'view' permission, unchecked 'aquire permissions setting' and
> checked 'authenticated'. When I attempt to access the resource, I get
> prompted for a username and password three times, before it croaks with an
> error usually 'You are not allowed to access <something> in this context'.
> 
> This worked fine in 2.5.1. Am I missing something obvious? I know I am
> entering the username/password correctly as I have also tried my admin
> account which I use in the ZMI.

Please read Zope/doc/SECURITY.txt to create an Emergency User who can 
fix your security-settings.

-mj

From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Thu Dec 19 23:01:32 2002
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:01:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] sorry to insist! I'm a feeling that I must dare to write this message:  don't allow bad entities ruin the code
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <01af01c2a7b2$932e2f50$0100a8c0@AHAH>

under IE6 with SP1
bad entities are no more allowed in the URI see
http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html
it happens a lot in PLone but Zope is not exempt
http://www.zope.org/feedback_site_form?whats_up=Register&origin_url=http://w
ww.zope.org/Register
will work but it is mere luck, it is not W3C compliant
it should be for example instead of &origin &origin
Hotmail, Msn, passport.com, passport.net. and my self on my tiny Plone of
newbie are not so lucky
I am newbie in everything you write about, but I am a very old oldie in
matter of html W3C compliant
I was in my past teacher, I know it can be difficult to receive such a
remark particularly from a not so bright pupil.. but If I  dare to write
this message it is because  I am persuaded it can be important
Think to all the bad entities there are every where cgi, asp, php,..
look at in the IE6 list.. there are complaints everywhere but you can't say
for once that is really a window bug

Have a look on Zope under Amaya from the W3Consortium..

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Thu Dec 19 23:00:18 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:00:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Calling DTML
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <attj36$hds$1@main.gmane.org>

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> Forwarding control from a Python script a DTML method in Zope 2.5.1 used to
> work like this:
> 
>    return _['updoc'](container, request)
> 
> Now I am getting a Key error on 'updoc' which is a DTML method in the same
> skinned folder as the script.

1. Check that 'updoc' is a DTML-Method and not a DTML-Document.
2. Check Bindings-Tab in PythonScript. Is _ set as namespace-binding?
3. Try to submit the whole namespace to your DTML-Method:
    return _['updoc'](container, _)

-mj

From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Dec 19 23:12:20 2002
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:12:20 -0800
Subject: [Zope] syncing two instances of zope
Message-ID: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com>

Hi,
I have a setup where two machines are running identical instances of 
zope and only one of them is active to the outside world via a firewall. 
As and when one of them goes down the other is activated by the firewall 
for the duration that the primary went down.

How do I keep these two instances in sync at all times ( mebbe a 10-15 
min delay between syncs)??

I looked at ZSyncer but it seems I have to explicitely specify objects 
to be synced.

TIA
AM

From lennart@regebro.nu  Thu Dec 19 23:11:19 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:11:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] sorry to insist! I'm a feeling that I must dare to write this message:  don't allow bad entities ruin the code
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net> <01af01c2a7b2$932e2f50$0100a8c0@AHAH>
Message-ID: <002a01c2a7b3$f31ffe60$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: "danielle.d-avout" <danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr>
>
http://www.zope.org/feedback_site_form?whats_up=Register&origin_url=http://w
> ww.zope.org/Register
> will work but it is mere luck, it is not W3C compliant
> it should be for example instead of &origin &origin

Huh? & has always been used to delimit different parameters in a get URL.
Are you saying that this is incorrect?

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 19 23:12:30 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:12:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Calling DTML
In-Reply-To: <attj36$hds$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEPCIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Maik,

Thanks for the quick response.  Both number 1 and 2 are OK.  When I do this
:

return _['updoc'](container, _)

I get an attribute error on guarded_getattr.  If I reverse the order of the
arguments like (_, container) I get an even stranger error:

Error Type: KeyError
   Error Value: standard_html_header

I don't understand this error since I clearly have 'updoc' as the key and
the traceback indicates it is coming from the return _['updoc']... line.

Any more ideas?  Could this be a bug in 2.6?

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Maik
Jablonski
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:00 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: Calling DTML

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> Forwarding control from a Python script a DTML method in Zope 2.5.1 used
to
> work like this:
>
>    return _['updoc'](container, request)
>
> Now I am getting a Key error on 'updoc' which is a DTML method in the same
> skinned folder as the script.

-mj

From lennart@regebro.nu  Thu Dec 19 23:17:13 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:17:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Easier maintenance than through management iface?
References: <20021219191746.GA6132@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <005701c2a7b4$c5d074c0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: "Martin F Krafft" <krafft@ifi.unizh.ch>
> However, we have a couple of requirements for a CMS, and while I know
> that Zope is very extensible (and it not really being a CMS per se),

Well, no, it's an web application platform. But it does everything and more
than a CMS doesm so it's CMS+, really.

>My first question is: does Zope provide such a framework?

Zope *is* such a framework. Making new management interfaces are made easier
with CMF, so you may want to look at that some more. You may not need it
though, your requirements seem rather basic so far. CMF does a lot and can
be a bit intimidating to understand.

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Dec 19 23:25:40 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:25:40 -0800
Subject: [Zope] syncing two instances of zope
In-Reply-To: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com>
References: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <20021219232540.GA23871@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 03:12:20PM -0800, AM wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a setup where two machines are running identical instances of 
> zope and only one of them is active to the outside world via a firewall. 
> As and when one of them goes down the other is activated by the firewall 
> for the duration that the primary went down.
> 
> How do I keep these two instances in sync at all times ( mebbe a 10-15 
> min delay between syncs)??
> 
> I looked at ZSyncer but it seems I have to explicitely specify objects 
> to be synced.

Yes, you do.
Does only one of these sites get content updates,
and the other just mirrors it?
If so, i guess you could try to use rsync to sync the
one machine's ZODB to the other, but i'd be really
wary of that. For one thing, ZODB writes are *not* really
append-only, and for another you'd want to be sure that
the  mirror wasn't doing any writing of its own.
To be safe, I've heard many recommendations that
both of the zopes that you're syncing should be
either shut down, or running in read-only mode.

On a project I'm working on now, we are adding zsyncer as 
part of our content management workflow.  We administrate
content on a private server and sync to two production servers
simultaneously; that way, one production machine can fail
over to the other, and the two production machines
are always in sync with each other. (We're doing this already,
it's just that the interface for zsyncer in CMF is not
ready yet so I'm doing all the syncs "by hand").

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
"Welcome to Muppet Labs, where the future is made - today!"
Look! Up in the sky! It's SLICK SLUDGE SPOOK!
(courtesy of isometric.spaceninja.com)

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 19 23:27:40 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:27:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] syncing two instances of zope
In-Reply-To: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEPDIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

You could use ZSyncer and set up a cron job to automate its calling either
through xmlrpc or httplib.  I'd personally use xmlrpc from a cron job.
We're doing this in several places and it works very well.  Something like
this:

import xmlrpclib
  server = xmlrpclib.Server('http://localhost:8080/')
  server.someScript()

This script should call the ZSyncer object with the appropriate properties
set.  Take a look at the code for ZSyncer and you should be able to find
what you're looking for.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of AM
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:12 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] syncing two instances of zope

Hi,
I have a setup where two machines are running identical instances of
zope and only one of them is active to the outside world via a firewall.
As and when one of them goes down the other is activated by the firewall
for the duration that the primary went down.

How do I keep these two instances in sync at all times ( mebbe a 10-15
min delay between syncs)??

I looked at ZSyncer but it seems I have to explicitely specify objects
to be synced.

TIA
AM

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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Thu Dec 19 23:32:08 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:32:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Calling DTML
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEPCIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <attj36$hds$1@main.gmane.org> <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEPCIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3E0256F8.80102@uni-bielefeld.de>

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> Maik,
> 
> Thanks for the quick response.  Both number 1 and 2 are OK.  When I do this
> :
> 
>    return _['updoc'](container, _)
>

please try:

return context.updoc(container,request)

-mj

From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Dec 19 23:40:49 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:40:49 -0800
Subject: [Zope] syncing two instances of zope
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEPDIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com> <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEPDIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <20021219234049.GA28394@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 06:27:40PM -0500, Kevin Carlson wrote:
> You could use ZSyncer and set up a cron job to automate its calling either
> through xmlrpc or httplib.  I'd personally use xmlrpc from a cron job.
> We're doing this in several places and it works very well.  Something like
> this:
> 
>   import xmlrpclib
>   server = xmlrpclib.Server('http://localhost:8080/')
>   server.someScript()
> 
> This script should call the ZSyncer object with the appropriate properties
> set.  Take a look at the code for ZSyncer and you should be able to find
> what you're looking for.

That would do the job, BUT be aware that when you sync a folder
using zsyncer, it basically:

1) Exports the folder, but puts the export data into RAM instead
of disk.
2) sends the export data across the network
3) Imports the export data on the remote server.

I have been having issues with using zsyncer on folders containing
100+ MB of data. It seems to work, but sometimes i never get
an acknowledgement from the remote that it's done.
And you can't just sync the root folder anyway - you'd *have*
to at least select objects within the root folder to sync.

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's PROFOUNDLY POUNCING THING PLUMBER!
(courtesy of isometric.spaceninja.com)

From creiman@kefta.com  Thu Dec 19 23:45:45 2002
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:45:45 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sorry to insist! I'm a feeling that I must dare to write this message:  don't allow bad entities ruin the code
In-Reply-To: <002a01c2a7b3$f31ffe60$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKGEDLCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> Lennart Regebro
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: danielle.d-avout; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] sorry to insist! I'm a feeling that I must dare to
> write this message: don't allow bad entities ruin the code
>
>
> From: "danielle.d-avout" <danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr>
> >
> http://www.zope.org/feedback_site_form?whats_up=Register&origin_ur
l=http://w
> > ww.zope.org/Register
> > will work but it is mere luck, it is not W3C compliant
> > it should be for example instead of &origin &origin
>
> Huh? & has always been used to delimit different parameters in a get URL.
> Are you saying that this is incorrect?

Danielle is right, it is incorrect but only in things that need to validate
(HTML, XML). If you are talking in ASCII email, using & alone is just fine
(and using & will probably not work).

To express it a little more clearly: URLs can have '&' in them, it's just
fine. But when an URL occurs as an HTML attribute, like:

Using a stand alone '&' is incorrect as '&' in an attribute is the signal
for an entity. It really should be '&'

Having said that, I can't imagine any major browser ever enforcing this
requirement in the next 10-15 years. I also wouldn't consider it "just
luck".

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 20 00:13:12 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:13:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Tracebacks in 2.6.0
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEPFIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Hello everyone,

I experienced a problem earlier today calling a dtml method from a python
script.  As it turns out, the problem was in the dtml method, but I couldn't
clearly learn this from the 2.6.0 tracebacks or error log.  What I ended up
doing was moving the Data.fs file to a 2.5.1 installation, reproducing the
error to get the traceback, then solving the problem.  I am running z2.py
with the -D flag set and have also added <dtml-var error_tb> to
standard_error_message, but I still am not getting the same level of detail.
So, my question is...

Is there any way to get the detailed traceback information in 2.6.0 that was
available in 2.5.1?  Anyone else having this sort of trouble?

Kevin

From C.P.Mills@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk  Fri Dec 20 00:27:35 2002
From: C.P.Mills@rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk (Mills Mr C P)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 00:27:35 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Help with Authentication and Zope 2.6
Message-ID: <1398D0DBAEED324EB0E7CDC181B3B391F3A173@EROS.resource.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>

This is not the problem. I can authenticate and access the ZMI with no
problem. The problem I am having seems to be in the permissions on an
object. I don't seem to be able to make an object viewable only to
'authenticated' users.

Thanks for your suggestion anyway and very swift response anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maik Jablonski
To: zope@zope.org
Sent: 19/12/02 22:53
Subject: [Zope] Re: Help with Authentication and Zope 2.6

Mills Mr C P wrote:
> HELP!!!
> 
> I have just upgraded one of my servers to Zope 2.6.0 and am having
problems
> with authentication.
> 
> I have a simple requirement that one folder requires a username and
password
> to access it's contents. I have created a single username and password
(as
> this is all that is required) is acl_users and in the security tab of
that
> folder on the 'view' permission, unchecked 'aquire permissions
setting' and
> checked 'authenticated'. When I attempt to access the resource, I get
> prompted for a username and password three times, before it croaks
with an
> error usually 'You are not allowed to access <something> in this
context'.
> 
> This worked fine in 2.5.1. Am I missing something obvious? I know I am
> entering the username/password correctly as I have also tried my admin
> account which I use in the ZMI.

Please read Zope/doc/SECURITY.txt to create an Emergency User who can 
fix your security-settings.

-mj

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From neves@samba-choro.com.br  Fri Dec 20 05:21:27 2002
From: neves@samba-choro.com.br (Paulo Eduardo Neves)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 03:21:27 -0200
Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEOEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEOEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <200212200321.27903.neves@samba-choro.com.br>

Em Quinta 19 Dezembro 2002 01:22, Kevin Carlson escreveu:
> In looking at this code vs. the code you are running I notice that
> the only difference is that the text defining my server name ends
> with a '/'.  I'd try adding the '/' and see what happens...

Yes, this was the problem. I've just discovered it in xmlrpclib docs:

>>> print xmlrpclib.ServerProxy.__doc__
uri [,options] -> a logical connection to an XML-RPC server

uri is the connection point on the server, given as
    scheme://host/target.

The standard implementation always supports the "http" scheme.  If
    SSL socket support is available (Python 2.0), it also supports
    "https".

If the target part and the slash preceding it are both omitted,
    "/RPC2" is assumed.

The following options can be given as keyword arguments:

transport: a transport factory
        encoding: the request encoding (default is UTF-8)

All 8-bit strings passed to the server proxy are assumed to use
    the given encoding.

It looks like that ServerProxy is now the correct way to use the lib. 
They probably have a reason for breaking old code, but this default 
appending of /RC2 is really weird.

thanks for all the answers,
-- 
Paulo Eduardo Neves
Agenda do Samba & Choro, o boteco virtual do samba e choro
http://www.samba-choro.com.br

From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Dec 19 19:30:15 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:30:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] My Zope is leaking memory ... Still no luck. (PythonSc  ript bug)
In-Reply-To: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E230518@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
References: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E230518@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <15874.7751.409681.424634@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca writes:
 > I most definitely use Python 2.1.3 ...
 > 
 > I however AM using 2.5.0 ... A bit old I know, I'm about to start working on
 > upgrading when 2.6.1 comes out ...
 > 
 > Are there specific bugs in 2.5.0 that could be causing this behavior? I
 > vaguely recall looking at the Change Log and Collector, but not finding much
 > about any kind of memory leak ...
I do not know about leaks.

But, I know about a bug in "cAccessControl" that can lead to memory
corruption (and subsequent SIGSEGV termination).

Dieter

From tillea@rki.de  Fri Dec 20 07:25:58 2002
From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:25:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <1040314123.1499.2.camel@james>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212200824220.17664-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>

On 19 Dec 2002, Chris McDonough wrote:

> The easiest way is probably to create a BackTalk book/document in your
> member are on Zope.org... then cut and paste into it.  Or install
> BackTalk on one of your own systems (http://backtalk.sourceforge.net).
On the other hand I would really love if the stx engine would be
available as separate module.  This would brgeat help in other projects
than backtalk and could attract developers who are not especially
interested in backtalk development.

Kind regards

Andreas.

From chrism@zope.com  Fri Dec 20 07:45:22 2002
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:45:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212200824220.17664-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
Message-ID: <001201c2a7fb$c26f5020$4b01000a@james>

The StructuredText package in Zope has no dependencies on any other
Zope modules AFAIK, so it'd probably be fine to make a standalone
distribution.

- C

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Tille" <tillea@rki.de>
To: "Zope user list" <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:25 AM
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance

> On 19 Dec 2002, Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> > The easiest way is probably to create a BackTalk book/document in
your
> > member are on Zope.org... then cut and paste into it.  Or install
> > BackTalk on one of your own systems
(http://backtalk.sourceforge.net).
> On the other hand I would really love if the stx engine would be
> available as separate module.  This would brgeat help in other
projects
> than backtalk and could attract developers who are not especially
> interested in backtalk development.
>
> Kind regards
>
>          Andreas.
>
>
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From tillea@rki.de  Fri Dec 20 08:04:17 2002
From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:04:17 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <001201c2a7fb$c26f5020$4b01000a@james>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212200903150.17664-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Chris McDonough wrote:

> The StructuredText package in Zope has no dependencies on any other
> Zope modules AFAIK, so it'd probably be fine to make a standalone
> distribution.
This would be great.  It would be even greater if this would be not
a standalone Zope package but a standalone Python module for use in
normal Python programs without Zope.

Kind regards

Andreas.

From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Fri Dec 20 08:10:57 2002
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:10:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212200903150.17664-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212200903150.17664-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bu
 nd.de>
Message-ID: <4665708.1040375457@[0.0.0.3]>

As Chris wrote, STX can be used standalone independent of Zope
in any other Python program. But if you have the choice better
take reST from the docutils package.

-aj

--On Freitag, 20. Dezember 2002 09:04 +0100 Andreas Tille <tillea@rki.de> 
wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Chris McDonough wrote:
>
>> The StructuredText package in Zope has no dependencies on any other
>> Zope modules AFAIK, so it'd probably be fine to make a standalone
>> distribution.
> This would be great.  It would be even greater if this would be not
> a standalone Zope package but a standalone Python module for use in
> normal Python programs without Zope.
>
> Kind regards
>
>         Andreas.
>
>
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From tillea@rki.de  Fri Dec 20 09:32:09 2002
From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:32:09 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book call for assistance
In-Reply-To: <4665708.1040375457@[0.0.0.3]>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212201031000.17664-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Andreas Jung wrote:

> As Chris wrote, STX can be used standalone independent of Zope
> in any other Python program. But if you have the choice better
> take reST from the docutils package.
Thanks for the Hint.
Back to the topic: It would be nice if someone could write a reST
script which could convert zope-book.stx to different formats.

Kind regards

Andreas.

From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Fri Dec 20 11:30:36 2002
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac)
Date: 20 Dec 2002 12:30:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope-2.6 + PostgreSQL-7.2.1 + ZPsycopgDA
Message-ID: <1040383836.8138.40.camel@m22241>

Hi,

I currently use the products described in the title on a Linux server.

My problem is that as the site is used (even by a little number of
users), more and more connections are opened on the PostgreSQL server.
But these connections are not released, even if many of them don't seem
to be reused, and after a while PostgreSQL refuse new connections saying
that too many connections are already open.

Is there any way to handle such a kind of problems in Zope, to reuse or
close existing connections when no more used, or is it only a PostgreSQL
problem ???

Many thanks for your help,

Thierry

P.S.: actually, my SQL methods are defined into my own Zope products
like this :

sql_get_something = SQL (id='sql_get_something', title="My Title",
                           connection_id='my_sql_connection',
                           arguments='',
                           template="select * from table")

Then this method is used normally into DTML scripts (<dtml-in
sql_get_something>) or into other Python methods (for record in
sql_get_something(): ...)
Only the 'my_sql_connection' component is a ZPsycoPGDA instance defined
into my Zope site throught ZMI, but there is never any explicit handling
of database connections...

-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net

From g.bonelli@360publishing.it  Fri Dec 20 11:47:43 2002
From: g.bonelli@360publishing.it (Giuseppe Bonelli)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:47:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] help on CLIENT_HOME format under win32
Message-ID: <GHECIFOHLCIDDBCOOLCBEEPEDMAA.g.bonelli@360publishing.it>

Hi all,

I seek suggestions on the following problem:

I have a class foo that references files kept on the filesystem (by =
subclassing ExternalFile). One of the properties of foo is the path to =
the referenced externalfile which is used also as an index in the =
Catalog.

All the paths string values are constructed in an OS independent way by =
means of os.path.join(CLIENT_HOME, my-app-basepath).

The problem is that if you install Zope on win32 under the standard =
"Program Files" dir, the CLIENT_HOME variable value get translated in =
the ugly "Progr~1\" format and hence the Catalog cannot match this =
string to the real path string.

The obvious solution would be to hardwire in the code the full basepath =
to the external files, but there should be a more elegant solution.

Any suggestion ?

TIA,

--peppo=20

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 12:55:48 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:55:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
Message-ID: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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Assuming I have no access to the Zope or Apache logfiles, is there
a module I can incorporate into Zope to give me traffic stats for
a site?

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From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Fri Dec 20 13:03:26 2002
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:03:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net>
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Friday 20 December 2002 12:55 pm, Martin F Krafft wrote:
> Assuming I have no access to the Zope or Apache logfiles, is there
> a module I can incorporate into Zope to give me traffic stats for
> a site?

You have access to install filesystem products, but no access to read log=
=20
files? thats weird.

--=20
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 13:06:58 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:06:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <20021220130658.GA21541@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach Toby Dickenson <tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> [2002.12.20.1=
403 +0100]:
> > Assuming I have no access to the Zope or Apache logfiles, is there
> > a module I can incorporate into Zope to give me traffic stats for
> > a site?
>=20
> You have access to install filesystem products, but no access to read log=
=20
> files? thats weird.

I am not going to be the admin on the final system and we want to take
as much "control" away from the admins as possible due to internal
reasons. If they manage to get Zope and Plone up and running, then
that's more than I can ask for (internal politics). I can't really
expect them to also install a log analyser...

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From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Fri Dec 20 13:26:45 2002
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:26:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <20021220130658.GA21541@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <3E031A95.4060006@friedman.ch>

>>You have access to install filesystem products, but no access to read log 
>>files? thats weird.
> 
> 
> I am not going to be the admin on the final system and we want to take
> as much "control" away from the admins as possible due to internal
> reasons. If they manage to get Zope and Plone up and running, then
> that's more than I can ask for (internal politics). I can't really
> expect them to also install a log analyser...
>

but probably they already have a system to do the stats now. just stay 
with it.

in my experience it is usfull to do special configuration for the zope 
stuff, defining what are pageviews and things like that, but that's 
likely to be possible.

take care

gidon

From zeaxis555@yahoo.com  Fri Dec 20 13:24:31 2002
From: zeaxis555@yahoo.com (Dreaming Warrior)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 05:24:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] ImportError:_ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
In-Reply-To: <20021220130658.GA21541@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <20021220132431.89414.qmail@web40605.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,
i am getting this error when i am trying to start
zope...i am using
openldap2.0.12,LDAPUserFolder1.2.beta3,i have
installed python-ldap-2.0.0pre06 too....can anyone
checkout why it is complaining

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line
531, in import_product
    product=__import__(pname, global_dict,
global_dict, silly)
  File
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py",
line 13, in ?
    from LDAPUserFolder import addLDAPUserFolderForm,
\
  File
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py",
line 30, in ?
    import _ldap
ImportError:
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/_ldapmodule.so:
undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter

regards,

rockash..............

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From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 13:27:37 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:27:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <3E031A95.4060006@friedman.ch>
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <20021220130658.GA21541@fishbowl.madduck.net> <3E031A95.4060006@friedman.ch>
Message-ID: <20021220132737.GA6446@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach Gidon Friedman <tempnospam1@friedman.ch> [2002.12.20.1426 +0100=
]:
> but probably they already have a system to do the stats now. just stay=20
> with it.

i doubt it.

> in my experience it is usfull to do special configuration for the zope=20
> stuff, defining what are pageviews and things like that, but that's=20
> likely to be possible.

it would be far easier if contained within zope itself...

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From list@zettai.net  Fri Dec 20 08:56:56 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:56:56 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <BA288BD7.158C5%list@zettai.net>

AFAIK no. But there are various packages for analyzing your apache logs that
are easy to install:

webalizer (my fav)
analog
awstats

another more complicated and resource intensive option but one that you
could potentially hang off of zope is mod_log_sql. You install this as an
apache module, put a few lines of configuration in httpd.conf and set up an
sql db. Everything gets logged to the db, so you you could design your own
graphic logs with SQL in Zope.

None of these are python or zope based but they are the best free packages
out there and I think that's the best you'll get. :)

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> From: Martin F Krafft <krafft@ifi.unizh.ch>
> Organization: AILab, IFI, University of Zurich
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:55:48 +0100
> To: zope users <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
> 
> Assuming I have no access to the Zope or Apache logfiles, is there
> a module I can incorporate into Zope to give me traffic stats for
> a site?

From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Fri Dec 20 13:59:57 2002
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:59:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Traffic stats in Zope only
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <20021220130658.GA21541@fishbowl.madduck.net> <3E031A95.4060006@friedman.ch> <20021220132737.GA6446@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <3E03225D.7080202@friedman.ch>

>>but probably they already have a system to do the stats now. just stay 
>>with it.
> 
> i doubt it.

well, your case is special ;-)

>>in my experience it is usfull to do special configuration for the zope 
>>stuff, defining what are pageviews and things like that, but that's 
>>likely to be possible.

> it would be far easier if contained within zope itself...

that's zope policy: "Don't reinvent things that others can do better"

kids, don't do this at home:
you could add a localFS into the Z2.log (change the default location), 
download it each month (in the LAN that will be possible) to your 
computer and make the stats. weird but possible ?-) or a script on a 
different computer that downloads the log, makes the stats and uploades 
the figures  ---  just kidding around ;-)

-gf

From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Fri Dec 20 14:03:19 2002
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:03:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope_quick_start?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021220150118.00a755b0@mail.club-internet.fr>

Hi,

I didn't find any post through the archives of this list on Yahoo, and 
since the archives at http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/ don't provide a 
search function...

The index_html object at / includes a reference to zope_quick_start, which 
displays the familiar "Welcome to Zope, a high-performance object-oriented 
platform for building dynamic Web applications" page but... the Find tab 
doesn't return anything when trying to locate this object in the ZODB. How 
can that be?

Thx
Fred.

From gary@modernsongs.com  Fri Dec 20 14:02:26 2002
From: gary@modernsongs.com (Gary Poster)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:02:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZOPE 3 MINI-mini NEWSLETTER (#5)
Message-ID: <3E0322F2.5030304@modernsongs.com>

WELCOME TO THE ZOPE 3 MINI-NEWSLETTER: ISSUE 5 (20 DEC 2002)

NEWS SNIPPETS:

* I neglected to send the fourth Zope 3 newsletter to zope@zope.org.
     Sorry. :-(  Please read about the *excellent* things Stephan Richter
     did about Zope 3 documentation (!), wiki clean-up,
     internationalization, and UI ideas:
     http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/Zope3Newsletter4

* Jim Fulton posted more information about the Zope 3 alpha release,
     slated for December 31.  Read the post for important details
     about this exciting release.  Here's one warning:

"The alpha release *will* be slow. We have intentionally avoided
       optimization to keep the code as clean as possible. Optimization
       will be performed prior to the first beta release."

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2002-December/004348.html

* On Monday, December 23, the code base will undergo a major
     face-lift, using the proposal presented by Martijn Faassen at the
     Rotterdam sprint.  Start here for details:
     http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/DirectoryHierarchyReorganization

* Jeffrey Shell had the great idea to set up a Zope3 redirect
     at the dev.zope.org, so all the wiki links in this newsletter
     aren't as ugly.  Thanks very much!

STEVE ALEXANDER: debugging; cut, copy, and paste

I just spent N hours in the debugger chasing down this bug:

<http://collector.zope.org/Zope3-dev/84>

I'm about to check in the fix -- hurrah! [ed. - it's in there now :-)]

I've talked to Alexander Limi about how to do cut, copy and paste in
   Zope 3. I'll be writing a proposal on it this week, and hopefully
   implementing it too.

STEPHAN RICHTER: FTP!

Concerning FTP...

I was working on FTP this week to get it ready for the alpha. I
   refactored some stuff and fixed a bunch of bugs. Jim wants to add FTP
   support for Packages too, so we will do that as soon as I have
   written the docu[ments].

MARTIJN FAASSEN: Thanks to sprinters

The Sprintathon in Rotterdam was a success! Thanks everybody who
   participated in helping making it such a great event. This page has
   the after action reports:

http://www.infrae.com/sprintathon

LEARN MORE ABOUT ZOPE 3:

See http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-dev and
   http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/
   but be aware the design docs often lag as we develop prototypes.
   Again, these newsletters and the compiled glossary are archived at
   http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/Zope3Newsletter

From jens@zope.com  Fri Dec 20 14:31:14 2002
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:31:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ImportError:_ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
In-Reply-To: <20021220132431.89414.qmail@web40605.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B19EA338-1427-11D7-9189-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

first of all (and this has nothing to do with the real problem), why 
are you using such an ancient version of the LDAPUserFolder?

as far as the real problem goes, it looks like your compilation of 
python-ldap went wrong, or it could be that your library search path is 
missing the path to the actual OpenLDAP libraries.

jens

On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 08:24 US/Eastern, Dreaming Warrior wrote:

> Hello,
> i am getting this error when i am trying to start
> zope...i am using
> openldap2.0.12,LDAPUserFolder1.2.beta3,i have
> installed python-ldap-2.0.0pre06 too....can anyone
> checkout why it is complaining
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line
> 531, in import_product
>     product=__import__(pname, global_dict,
> global_dict, silly)
>   File
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py",
> line 13, in ?
>     from LDAPUserFolder import addLDAPUserFolderForm,
> \
>   File
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py",
> line 30, in ?
>     import _ldap
> ImportError:
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/_ldapmodule.so:
> undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
>
>
> regards,
>
> rockash..............
>
>
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From zeaxis555@yahoo.com  Fri Dec 20 14:47:02 2002
From: zeaxis555@yahoo.com (Dreaming Warrior)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 06:47:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] ImportError:_ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
In-Reply-To: <B19EA338-1427-11D7-9189-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <20021220144702.52366.qmail@web40606.mail.yahoo.com>

thanks for the reply...the reason why i am using the
older version is bcoz, i had used the same some time
for a diff project ...how ever i used the latest
stable version which is LDAPUserFolder-1.6...this gave
the error ...
2002-12-20T13:10:13 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import
Products.LDAPUserFolder
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py,
line 531, in import_product
File
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py,
line 13, in ?
File
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py,
line 34, in ?
File
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py,
line 19, in ?
    (Object: aq_inner)
File
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py,
line 32, in ?
ImportError: No module named ldap

I have copied the _ldapmodule.so as instructed into
the LDAP folder in Products.....but still i get this
error....also the problem i have is that i have to
install on client machine and that sys admin is not
very co-operative....i have access only to
/usr/local/zope and my home folder....can u think of a
solution ...as to how i can get this running....

regards,

rockash.......

--- Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
> first of all (and this has nothing to do with the
> real problem), why 
> are you using such an ancient version of the
> LDAPUserFolder?
> 
> as far as the real problem goes, it looks like your
> compilation of 
> python-ldap went wrong, or it could be that your
> library search path is 
> missing the path to the actual OpenLDAP libraries.
> 
> jens
> 
> 
> On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 08:24 US/Eastern,
> Dreaming Warrior wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > i am getting this error when i am trying to start
> > zope...i am using
> > openldap2.0.12,LDAPUserFolder1.2.beta3,i have
> > installed python-ldap-2.0.0pre06 too....can anyone
> > checkout why it is complaining
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File
> > "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py",
> line
> > 531, in import_product
> >     product=__import__(pname, global_dict,
> > global_dict, silly)
> >   File
> >
>
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py",
> > line 13, in ?
> >     from LDAPUserFolder import
> addLDAPUserFolderForm,
> > \
> >   File
> >
>
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py",
> > line 30, in ?
> >     import _ldap
> > ImportError:
> >
>
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/_ldapmodule.so:
> > undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > rockash..............
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> 
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From jens@zope.com  Fri Dec 20 14:55:35 2002
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:55:35 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ImportError:_ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
In-Reply-To: <20021220144702.52366.qmail@web40606.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18152EF8-142B-11D7-9189-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

well, this is the same problem. your python-ldap module is screwed up.

jens

On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 09:47 US/Eastern, Dreaming Warrior wrote:

> thanks for the reply...the reason why i am using the
> older version is bcoz, i had used the same some time
> for a diff project ...how ever i used the latest
> stable version which is LDAPUserFolder-1.6...this gave
> the error ...
> 2002-12-20T13:10:13 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import
> Products.LDAPUserFolder
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py,
> line 531, in import_product
> File
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py,
> line 13, in ?
> File
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py,
> line 34, in ?
> File
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py,
> line 19, in ?
>     (Object: aq_inner)
> File
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py,
> line 32, in ?
> ImportError: No module named ldap
>
>
> I have copied the _ldapmodule.so as instructed into
> the LDAP folder in Products.....but still i get this
> error....also the problem i have is that i have to
> install on client machine and that sys admin is not
> very co-operative....i have access only to
> /usr/local/zope and my home folder....can u think of a
> solution ...as to how i can get this running....
>
> regards,
>
> rockash.......
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
>> first of all (and this has nothing to do with the
>> real problem), why
>> are you using such an ancient version of the
>> LDAPUserFolder?
>>
>> as far as the real problem goes, it looks like your
>> compilation of
>> python-ldap went wrong, or it could be that your
>> library search path is
>> missing the path to the actual OpenLDAP libraries.
>>
>> jens
>>
>>
>> On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 08:24 US/Eastern,
>> Dreaming Warrior wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> i am getting this error when i am trying to start
>>> zope...i am using
>>> openldap2.0.12,LDAPUserFolder1.2.beta3,i have
>>> installed python-ldap-2.0.0pre06 too....can anyone
>>> checkout why it is complaining
>>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File
>>> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py",
>> line
>>> 531, in import_product
>>>     product=__import__(pname, global_dict,
>>> global_dict, silly)
>>>   File
>>>
>>
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py",
>>> line 13, in ?
>>>     from LDAPUserFolder import
>> addLDAPUserFolderForm,
>>> \
>>>   File
>>>
>>
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py",
>>> line 30, in ?
>>>     import _ldap
>>> ImportError:
>>>
>>
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/_ldapmodule.so:
>>> undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> rockash..............
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Fri Dec 20 14:56:47 2002
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (Jeff Sacksteder)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:56:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] My zen is malfunctioning
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB19825F@SRV-03>

Perhaps someone can help me straighten this out in my head.

I have DTML method "input" that collects two values from the user in a html
form, start_date and end_date.Submiting the form calls DTML method
"subtotal"  which takes the two values passed in the REQUEST and uses them
as parameters in a ZSQL method to produce a list of subtotaled results from
my database. So far, so good.

My goal is to make each subtotal a link to a second ZSQL method that returns
a detailed listing without subtotals.

I can manage to create the hrefs in each line of the report, but I'm fuzzy
on how to pass the start_date and end_date from my first REQUEST through the
subtotal DTML method, and into the REQUEST for the detail report. Is this a
job for dtml-with?

I'm thinking inside the subtotal DTML method I have to manually push the
values into the namespace somehow, but how to do that escapes me.

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 20 15:06:17 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:06:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] My zen is malfunctioning
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB19825F@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEABICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

If you are building the results page from the DTML method "subtotal", use
the start_date and end_date in the request to build the hrefs.  For example:

<a href="nosubtotal?start_date=<dtml-var start_date>&end_date=<dtml-var
end_date>">No subtotal</a>

Hope that helps,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Jeff
Sacksteder
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:57 AM
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: [Zope] My zen is malfunctioning

Perhaps someone can help me straighten this out in my head.

My goal is to make each subtotal a link to a second ZSQL method that returns
a detailed listing without subtotals.

I'm thinking inside the subtotal DTML method I have to manually push the
values into the namespace somehow, but how to do that escapes me.

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 15:00:33 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:00:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <BA288BD7.158C5%list@zettai.net>
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> <BA288BD7.158C5%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <20021220150033.GA5318@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach george donnelly <list@zettai.net> [2002.12.20.0956 +0100]:
> webalizer (my fav)

mine too.

well, i'll see what i can do.

the main problem is that we don't get a subdomain for the zope site,
just a subdirectory, and i don't know how to get webalizer to separate
statistics by subdir.

but that discussion doesn't belong here...

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From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 15:01:10 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:01:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <3E03225D.7080202@friedman.ch>
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> <200212201303.26226.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <20021220130658.GA21541@fishbowl.madduck.net> <3E031A95.4060006@friedman.ch> <20021220132737.GA6446@fishbowl.madduck.net> <3E03225D.7080202@friedman.ch>
Message-ID: <20021220150110.GB5318@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach Gidon Friedman <tempnospam1@friedman.ch> [2002.12.20.1459 +0100=
]:
> >it would be far easier if contained within zope itself...
>=20
> that's zope policy: "Don't reinvent things that others can do better"

that's UNIX philosophy ;^>

> kids, don't do this at home:
> you could add a localFS into the Z2.log (change the default location),=20
> download it each month (in the LAN that will be possible) to your=20
> computer and make the stats. weird but possible ?-) or a script on a=20
> different computer that downloads the log, makes the stats and uploades=
=20
> the figures  ---  just kidding around ;-)

sounds like fun ;^>

i like the mod_log_sql idea someone else proposed...

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From zeaxis555@yahoo.com  Fri Dec 20 15:29:47 2002
From: zeaxis555@yahoo.com (Dreaming Warrior)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:29:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] _ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol: ldap_first_tmplcol
In-Reply-To: <18152EF8-142B-11D7-9189-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <20021220152947.62077.qmail@web40613.mail.yahoo.com>

now it is this....
problem is that i dont have access to install
python-ldap..this is on client machine...

ImportError:
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUs
erFolder/_ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol:
ldap_first_tmplcol

do you say python-ldap has to be reinstalled...?

regards,
rockash....

--- Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
> well, this is the same problem. your python-ldap
> module is screwed up.
> 
> jens
> 
> On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 09:47 US/Eastern,
> Dreaming Warrior wrote:
> 
> > thanks for the reply...the reason why i am using
> the
> > older version is bcoz, i had used the same some
> time
> > for a diff project ...how ever i used the latest
> > stable version which is LDAPUserFolder-1.6...this
> gave
> > the error ...
> > 2002-12-20T13:10:13 ERROR(200) Zope Could not
> import
> > Products.LDAPUserFolder
> > Traceback (innermost last):
> >   File
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py,
> > line 531, in import_product
> > File
> >
>
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py,
> > line 13, in ?
> > File
> >
>
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py,
> > line 34, in ?
> > File
> >
>
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py,
> > line 19, in ?
> >     (Object: aq_inner)
> > File
> >
>
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py,
> > line 32, in ?
> > ImportError: No module named ldap
> >
> >
> > I have copied the _ldapmodule.so as instructed
> into
> > the LDAP folder in Products.....but still i get
> this
> > error....also the problem i have is that i have to
> > install on client machine and that sys admin is
> not
> > very co-operative....i have access only to
> > /usr/local/zope and my home folder....can u think
> of a
> > solution ...as to how i can get this running....
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > rockash.......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
> >> first of all (and this has nothing to do with the
> >> real problem), why
> >> are you using such an ancient version of the
> >> LDAPUserFolder?
> >>
> >> as far as the real problem goes, it looks like
> your
> >> compilation of
> >> python-ldap went wrong, or it could be that your
> >> library search path is
> >> missing the path to the actual OpenLDAP
> libraries.
> >>
> >> jens
> >>
> >>
> >> On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 08:24 US/Eastern,
> >> Dreaming Warrior wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> i am getting this error when i am trying to
> start
> >>> zope...i am using
> >>> openldap2.0.12,LDAPUserFolder1.2.beta3,i have
> >>> installed python-ldap-2.0.0pre06 too....can
> anyone
> >>> checkout why it is complaining
> >>>
> >>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>>   File
> >>> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py",
> >> line
> >>> 531, in import_product
> >>>     product=__import__(pname, global_dict,
> >>> global_dict, silly)
> >>>   File
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py",
> >>> line 13, in ?
> >>>     from LDAPUserFolder import
> >> addLDAPUserFolderForm,
> >>> \
> >>>   File
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
"/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py",
> >>> line 30, in ?
> >>>     import _ldap
> >>> ImportError:
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/_ldapmodule.so:
> >>> undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>>
> >>> rockash..............
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> __________________________________________________
> >>> Do you Yahoo!?
> >>> Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up
> >> now.
> >>> http://mailplus.yahoo.com
> >>>
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> >>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> >>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> >>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
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> >>>
> >>
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >>>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
> )
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> >> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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> >>
> >>
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev
> )
> >
> >
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> Beasts
> > on this Planet...!!!
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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Dec 20 15:38:55 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:38:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: zope_quick_start?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021220150118.00a755b0@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021220150118.00a755b0@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <atvdji$hnd$1@main.gmane.org>

Frederic Faure wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I didn't find any post through the archives of this list on Yahoo, and 
> since the archives at http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope/ don't 
> provide a search function...
> 
> The index_html object at / includes a reference to zope_quick_start, 
> which displays the familiar "Welcome to Zope, a high-performance 
> object-oriented platform for building dynamic Web applications" page 
> but... the Find tab doesn't return anything when trying to locate this 
> object in the ZODB. How can that be?

Because this page doesn't "live" in the ZODB. Have a look at:

Zope/lib/python/App/dtml/zope_quick_start.dtml

/mj

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 15:45:43 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:45:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Disabling registration form
Message-ID: <20021220154543.GA224@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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I know I can unshow the 'join' link through the portal_registration
tool, but the login form still provides a link to the registration
form. How can I disable registration alltogether?

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From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 15:46:46 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:46:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] more questions
Message-ID: <20021220154646.GB224@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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How would I go about renaming the ./Members folder to ./people?
I renamed it, I changed portal_actions to point to the right space,
but user pages now cannot be accessed anymore. The links don't show
up, presumably because ./Members is now a 404.

Any tips?

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From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 15:54:48 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:54:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] using tools
Message-ID: <20021220155448.GC224@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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Last question...

How do I use tools? For instance, when I open the portal_registration
tool in ZMI, the 'Overview' tab says: "... in particular, it sets the
default policies for allowable member IDs and passwords."

However, next to 'Overview', there is only 'Actions', and that
contains just the definitions of actions like found in portal_actions.

So I am thinking that I may not have understood how to use a tool. Is
there more to it than included in the two tabs?=20

Or portal_url, is there any configuration I can do?

Also, what is the difference between tools that have the wrench icon
(like portal_memberdata) and the ones with the Plone icon (like
portal_membership)?

Thanks,

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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Dec 20 15:56:32 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:56:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Disabling registration form
In-Reply-To: <20021220154543.GA224@fishbowl.madduck.net>
References: <20021220154543.GA224@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <atvekj$ngs$1@main.gmane.org>

Martin F Krafft wrote:
> I know I can unshow the 'join' link through the portal_registration
> tool, but the login form still provides a link to the registration
> form. How can I disable registration alltogether?

You should discuss CMF-related questions on Zope-CMF@zope.org. There are 
more CMF-experienced users than on this list...

/mj

From aj@hostway.com  Fri Dec 20 16:01:26 2002
From: aj@hostway.com (AJ Coon)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:01:26 -0600
Subject: [Zope] object modification email
Message-ID: <3E033ED6.9@hostway.com>

Is there a lightweight Zope product that anyone knows of which:

-  Tracks changes of objects in Zope
- Can send email to notify individuals when changes occur to objects 
that are being tracked

I think using versioning or CMF workflow  for what we need would be like 
using chainsaw to slice butter.   ;-)

Ideas, anyone?

Thanks,

From madduck@madduck.net  Fri Dec 20 16:13:04 2002
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Disabling registration form
In-Reply-To: <atvekj$ngs$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <20021220154543.GA224@fishbowl.madduck.net> <atvekj$ngs$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20021220161304.GA5844@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de> [2002.12.20.16=
56 +0100]:
> You should discuss CMF-related questions on Zope-CMF@zope.org. There are=
=20
> more CMF-experienced users than on this list...

I am sorry, I forgot. I'll repost...

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From muldrow@mac.com  Fri Dec 20 16:31:18 2002
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:31:18 -0500
Subject: [Zope] object modification email
In-Reply-To: <3E033ED6.9@hostway.com>
Message-ID: <BA28B006.7765%muldrow@mac.com>

On 12/20/02 11:01 AM, "AJ Coon" <aj@hostway.com> wrote:

> Is there a lightweight Zope product that anyone knows of which:
> 
> -  Tracks changes of objects in Zope
> - Can send email to notify individuals when changes occur to objects
> that are being tracked
> 
> I think using versioning or CMF workflow  for what we need would be like
> using chainsaw to slice butter.   ;-)
> 
> Ideas, anyone?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> aj
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
Unhelpful initial answer: I don't know of a product that does that.
Possibly helpful follow-up answer: Are you tracking a specific type of
object? 'Cause you could (just talking off the top of my head) go into the
manage_edit source and hook a sendmail method to it that checked against a
boolean property of the object. So:
if notify=='true':
    sendmail_method_somewhere_in_your_site()
- Chris

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 16:40:11 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:40:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Encrypting passwords
Message-ID: <20021220164011.GD224@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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In the properties of acl_users, I found a checkbox 'Encrypt user
passwords' and enabled it, then clicked on 'Update existing
passwords'. The result was that users could not log in anymore, not
even when I turned the checkbox off again (and clicked 'Update...').

What's the deal here?

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From aj@hostway.com  Fri Dec 20 16:46:17 2002
From: aj@hostway.com (AJ Coon)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:46:17 -0600
Subject: [Zope] object modification email
References: <BA28B006.7765%muldrow@mac.com>
Message-ID: <3E034959.2030200@hostway.com>

Chris Muldrow wrote:

>On 12/20/02 11:01 AM, "AJ Coon" <aj@hostway.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Is there a lightweight Zope product that anyone knows of which:
>>
>>-  Tracks changes of objects in Zope
>>- Can send email to notify individuals when changes occur to objects
>>that are being tracked
>>
>>I think using versioning or CMF workflow  for what we need would be like
>>using chainsaw to slice butter.   ;-)
>>
>>Ideas, anyone?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>aj
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>(Related lists - 
>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
>>    
>>
>Unhelpful initial answer: I don't know of a product that does that.
>Possibly helpful follow-up answer: Are you tracking a specific type of
>object? 'Cause you could (just talking off the top of my head) go into the
>manage_edit source and hook a sendmail method to it that checked against a
>boolean property of the object. So:
>if notify=='true':
>    sendmail_method_somewhere_in_your_site()
>- Chris
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists - 
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>  
>
Yeah, we're doing this in CMF, so we probably should just modify the 
Content types we are using for these objects to include the email 
functionality.

Also, I've thought about doing this at the folder level.  So say if an 
object was added or removed to/from a Folder object, an email would be 
generated letting people know something was modified 'in' the folder.

The latter is probably what we would start with as a simple 
customization to Folder objects, and the former would be adopted over 
time.

From madduck@madduck.net  Fri Dec 20 16:53:09 2002
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:53:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] adding roles
Message-ID: <20021220165309.GA12079@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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Can I add more roles than Manager and Owner?

Also, where can I find the description of their powers? Or is Manager
simply the superuser for all objects and Owner the superuser for
objects owned by oneself?

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken!
Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
"the liar at any rate recognizes that recreation, not instruction, is
 the aim of conversation, and is a far more civilized being than the
 blockhead who loudly expresses his disbelief in a story which is told
 simply for the amusement of the company."
                                                        -- oscar wilde

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From mj@zope.com  Fri Dec 20 16:58:15 2002
From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Zope] XML-RPC problems after upgrade
In-Reply-To: <200212200321.27903.neves@samba-choro.com.br>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEOEIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net> <200212200321.27903.neves@samba-choro.com.br>
Message-ID: <20021220165815.GI13997@zope.com>

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 03:21:27AM -0200, Paulo Eduardo Neves wrote:
> It looks like that ServerProxy is now the correct way to use the lib. 
> They probably have a reason for breaking old code, but this default 
> appending of /RC2 is really weird.

as stated in another email /RPC2 is the historical default for XML-RPC
supporting servers. Zope is really an exception in that it's whole URL space
is XML-RPC enabled.

-- 
Martijn Pieters
| Software Engineer  mailto:mj@zope.com
| Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com/
| Creators of Zope   http://www.zope.org/
---------------------------------------------

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Dec 20 17:00:13 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:00:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: adding roles
In-Reply-To: <20021220165309.GA12079@fishbowl.madduck.net>
References: <20021220165309.GA12079@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <atvic0$7ah$1@main.gmane.org>

martin f krafft wrote:
> Can I add more roles than Manager and Owner?
> 
> Also, where can I find the description of their powers? Or is Manager
> simply the superuser for all objects and Owner the superuser for
> objects owned by oneself?
> 
Do you have read the ZopeBook???

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/Security.stx

Please read it and ask all the things you don't understand!!! But please 
read it first...:)

/mj

From tpassin@mitretek.org  Fri Dec 20 17:13:21 2002
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:13:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149A9A9@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Dieter Maurer]
>=20
> Chris Muldrow writes:
>  > I read that before I sent my question! But I'm setting=20
> .mydomain.com as=20
>  > my domain name, and netscape is not recognizing that the=20
> cookie applies=20
>  > to http://mydomain.com
> There are restrictions on the domain specification length.
>=20
> Maybe, you domain does not contain enough "."s.
>=20
>=20

The domain name should not start with a "." AFAIK.

Cheers,

Tom P

From creiman@kefta.com  Fri Dec 20 17:16:54 2002
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:16:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Encrypting passwords
In-Reply-To: <20021220164011.GD224@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKIEEDCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> Martin F Krafft
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: zope users
> Subject: [Zope] Encrypting passwords
>
>
> In the properties of acl_users, I found a checkbox 'Encrypt user
> passwords' and enabled it, then clicked on 'Update existing
> passwords'. The result was that users could not log in anymore, not
> even when I turned the checkbox off again (and clicked 'Update...').
>
> What's the deal here?

It's broken. I filed a bug and it's been fixed in 2.6.1. It's been broken
since some time in 2.5 at least.

I feel like I should apologize but I'm just another victim.

From krafft@ifi.unizh.ch  Fri Dec 20 17:21:47 2002
From: krafft@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin F Krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:21:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Encrypting passwords
In-Reply-To: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKIEEDCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>
References: <20021220164011.GD224@fishbowl.madduck.net> <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKIEEDCOAA.creiman@kefta.com>
Message-ID: <20021220172147.GA3960@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach Charlie Reiman <creiman@kefta.com> [2002.12.20.1816 +0100]:
> It's broken. I filed a bug and it's been fixed in 2.6.1. It's been broken
> since some time in 2.5 at least.
>=20
> I feel like I should apologize but I'm just another victim.

Na, don't apologize. This is open-source, we're all in it. I don't
apologize for Debian bugs... ;^>

Thanks for letting me know.

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From madduck@madduck.net  Fri Dec 20 17:22:35 2002
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:22:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: adding roles
In-Reply-To: <atvic0$7ah$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <20021220165309.GA12079@fishbowl.madduck.net> <atvic0$7ah$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20021220172235.GA13238@fishbowl.madduck.net>

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also sprach Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de> [2002.12.20.18=
00 +0100]:
> Do you have read the ZopeBook???

Yes, I did.

> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/Security.stx

I did, but in a short time. There was too much information and I just
couldn't remember reading this one.

> Please read it and ask all the things you don't understand!!! But please=
=20
> read it first...:)

I will. Please accept my apologies...

--=20
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  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken!
Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
> is there anything else i can contribute?
the latitude and longitude of the bios writers'
current position, and a ballistic missile.
                                                           -- alan cox

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From lennart@regebro.nu  Fri Dec 20 17:36:24 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:36:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Encrypting passwords
References: <20021220164011.GD224@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <009f01c2a84e$52cff0f0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: "Martin F Krafft" <krafft@ifi.unizh.ch>
> In the properties of acl_users, I found a checkbox 'Encrypt user
> passwords' and enabled it, then clicked on 'Update existing
> passwords'. The result was that users could not log in anymore, not
> even when I turned the checkbox off again (and clicked 'Update...').
>
> What's the deal here?

If you do this, and passwords are already encrypted, then they get encrypted
again, which could be the reason you are having problems.

This bug has been fixed for 2.6.1. You probably need to go in and set new
passwords for your users. I hope they aren't too many. :-)

From zope-list@ebizq.net  Fri Dec 20 17:38:29 2002
From: zope-list@ebizq.net (Jim Kutter)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:38:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149A9A9@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <002601c2a84e$9bf734a0$6464a8c0@ebizq.dom>

That brings up a good question.

Netscape's cookie docs (http://wp.netscape.com/newsref/std/cookie_spec.html)
state that
"Only hosts within the specified domain can set a cookie for a domain and
domains must have at least two (2) or three (3) periods in them to prevent
domains of the form: ".com", ".edu", and "va.us". "

At least two or three? Then how do we set domain wide cookies? Is that even
kosher? Or do we need to explicity set what subdomains/hosts we want to
offer those cookies to?

-jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Passin, Tom" <tpassin@mitretek.org>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains

[ Dieter Maurer]
>
> Chris Muldrow writes:
>  > I read that before I sent my question! But I'm setting
> .mydomain.com as
>  > my domain name, and netscape is not recognizing that the
> cookie applies
>  > to http://mydomain.com
> There are restrictions on the domain specification length.
>
> Maybe, you domain does not contain enough "."s.
>
>

The domain name should not start with a "." AFAIK.

Cheers,

Tom P

From marc@bowery.com  Fri Dec 20 17:41:31 2002
From: marc@bowery.com (Marc Lindahl)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:41:31 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Local Roles  - taking away further down the tree?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021217120127.02393270@esrimail>
Message-ID: <467F3E6C-1442-11D7-95C0-0030656A1306@bowery.com>

How about down the line making a new local role -same name, but with 
less privileges, that will overload?

On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 05:05  AM, Etienne Labuschagne wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> First, AFAIK local roles are acquired further down the tree - if I 
> assign a local role, the user will have that local role in that 
> folder's children too.
>
> Is is possible to "remove" the local role of a user in a folder/set of 
> folders further down the tree?
>
> If this is not possible and maybe even a stupid idea, please fire away 
> - I need some ammo to convince the client that this is anyway not a 
> good idea - even if it cannot be done!
>
> Thanks
> Etienne
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

From lennart@regebro.nu  Fri Dec 20 17:59:40 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 18:59:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Local Roles  - taking away further down the tree?
References: <467F3E6C-1442-11D7-95C0-0030656A1306@bowery.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c2a851$9370dd60$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

> Is is possible to "remove" the local role of a user in a folder/set of
> folders further down the tree?

We have made a "Local Roles Blacklist" patch that does this.
http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/LRBlacklist

It's made for Zope 2.3, but I think it works with 2.5 and 2.6 too, although
that's untested.

From aj@hostway.com  Fri Dec 20 18:09:42 2002
From: aj@hostway.com (AJ Coon)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:09:42 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZPT / TALES question
Message-ID: <3E035CE6.3030208@hostway.com>

TALES uses the 'options' variable to store the dictionary of key/value 
pairs passed into a ZPTemplate when it gets parsed.  My question is: 
 What 'is' options?  Obviously, it is some sort of dictionary, but what 
does it inherit from, etc.?

The reason I ask is I 'bumped into' a method of options accidentally. 
 In one of my templates I used the following syntax:

I had passed a variable named 'copy' into the options dictionary with my 
own value, and wanted it to persist across the form submission, hence 
the hidden input field.  What happened though is when my form was 
submitted, the action script read in copy as this HUGE dictionary, and 
after further investigation, I realized its contents were the same as 
the options that I passed into the Template.  So options/copy appears to 
create a copy OF options.   How's that for confusing!

Obviously, I will change the name of my variable to something else. 
 Just wondering what 'else' I should avoid!

Thanks,

From simon@joyful.com  Fri Dec 20 18:30:18 2002
From: simon@joyful.com (Simon Michael)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:30:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope debugging
In-Reply-To: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E38@exchange.spc.nl>
 =?iso-8859-1?q?(Dani=EBl?= Hooymans's message of "Tue, 17 Dec 2002
 10:50:55 +0100")
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E38@exchange.spc.nl>
Message-ID: <87d6nwh7b9.fsf@joyful.com>

Dani=EBl Hooymans <d.hooymans@edufocus.nl> writes:
> Any other suggestions for easy debugging zope apps? Setting breakpoints
> and stepping through a zope app?

Yes - after reading the zope developer's guide chapter 7 (the best intro
to the subject), set up ZEO and configure things so that you can type
"python" and have the live server available at your prompt (import Zope,
app =3D Zope.app()).=20

Then do this within an emacs shell buffer, making sure you have
pdbtrack.el installed. import pdb, pdb.run('app.object.somemethod'), and
you'll be stepping through code on the server with source.  If the server
is remote, you can ssh there to run python, making sure you have a local
copy of the zope source such that the python file paths are the same.

-Simon

From simon@joyful.com  Fri Dec 20 18:44:43 2002
From: simon@joyful.com (Simon Michael)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:44:43 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope]Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net> (Martin F Krafft's
 message of "Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:55:48 +0100")
References: <20021220125548.GA1014@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <878yykh6n8.fsf@joyful.com>

How about one of the server-based hit counters ? They only count visits to
one page, but I'm using and liking nedstat. (http://nedstat.com)

From muldrow@mac.com  Fri Dec 20 19:07:27 2002
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:07:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains
In-Reply-To: <002601c2a84e$9bf734a0$6464a8c0@ebizq.dom>
Message-ID: <BA28D49F.7793%muldrow@mac.com>

Exactly my question!!!!
I'm trying to set domain-wide cookies, and it works with .mydomain.com on
all browsers except for NS 4.

On 12/20/02 12:38 PM, "Jim Kutter" <zope-list@ebizq.net> wrote:

> That brings up a good question.
> 
> Netscape's cookie docs (http://wp.netscape.com/newsref/std/cookie_spec.html)
> state that
> "Only hosts within the specified domain can set a cookie for a domain and
> domains must have at least two (2) or three (3) periods in them to prevent
> domains of the form: ".com", ".edu", and "va.us". "
> 
> At least two or three? Then how do we set domain wide cookies? Is that even
> kosher? Or do we need to explicity set what subdomains/hosts we want to
> offer those cookies to?
> 
> -jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Passin, Tom" <tpassin@mitretek.org>
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Netscape 4, cookies and domains
> 
> 
> [ Dieter Maurer]
>> 
>> Chris Muldrow writes:
>>> I read that before I sent my question! But I'm setting
>> .mydomain.com as
>>> my domain name, and netscape is not recognizing that the
>> cookie applies
>>> to http://mydomain.com
>> There are restrictions on the domain specification length.
>> 
>> Maybe, you domain does not contain enough "."s.
>> 
>> 
> 
> The domain name should not start with a "." AFAIK.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom P
> 
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From Bryan@capitanoweb.com  Fri Dec 20 19:14:16 2002
From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:14:16 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope]Traffic stats in Zope only
In-Reply-To: <878yykh6n8.fsf@joyful.com>
Message-ID: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENMEHGCFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>

I don't think there's any stats packages built into Zope. But why would you
want one? There's already lots of free and very powerful log analyzer
packages out there which you can run against Z2.log:

AWStats: http://awstats.sourceforge.net/
Analog: http://www.analog.cx/
Webalizer: http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/

Commercical stats packages (like Webtrends and HitBox) will also work since
Z2.log is kept in standard web log file format.

Bryan

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Tel: 541-344-0747
Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Simon
> Michael
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:45 AM
> To: zope users
> Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope]Traffic stats in Zope only
>
>
> How about one of the server-based hit counters ? They only count visits to
> one page, but I'm using and liking nedstat. (http://nedstat.com)
>
>
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Fri Dec 20 19:33:39 2002
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:33:39 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZPT / TALES question
In-Reply-To: <3E035CE6.3030208@hostway.com>
References: <3E035CE6.3030208@hostway.com>
Message-ID: <20021220193339.GB10611@slinkp.com>

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 12:09:42PM -0600, AJ Coon wrote:
> TALES uses the 'options' variable to store the dictionary of key/value 
> pairs passed into a ZPTemplate when it gets parsed.  My question is: 
> What 'is' options?  Obviously, it is some sort of dictionary, but what 
> does it inherit from, etc.?
(snip) 
> <input type="hidden" name="copy" value="" tal:attributes="value 
> options/copy">
> 
> I had passed a variable named 'copy' into the options dictionary with my 
> own value
(snip)

It might well be a standard dictionary.  Dictionaries in python
have a copy() method which returns a copy of the dictionary.
The TALES path expression calls the method, so you get the
method's return value rather than the method itself.

Paul Winkler
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From jens@zope.com  Fri Dec 20 19:32:59 2002
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:32:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] _ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol: ldap_first_tmplcol
In-Reply-To: <20021220152947.62077.qmail@web40613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D9085BBB-1451-11D7-9189-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

you need to do a full recompile and then make sure that all required 
OpenLDAP libraries are within the library path of your machine.

jens

On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 10:29 US/Eastern, Dreaming Warrior wrote:

> now it is this....
> problem is that i dont have access to install
> python-ldap..this is on client machine...
>
> ImportError:
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUs
> erFolder/_ldapmodule.so: undefined symbol:
> ldap_first_tmplcol
>
> do you say python-ldap has to be reinstalled...?
>
> regards,
> rockash....
>
>
> --- Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
>> well, this is the same problem. your python-ldap
>> module is screwed up.
>>
>> jens
>>
>> On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 09:47 US/Eastern,
>> Dreaming Warrior wrote:
>>
>>> thanks for the reply...the reason why i am using
>> the
>>> older version is bcoz, i had used the same some
>> time
>>> for a diff project ...how ever i used the latest
>>> stable version which is LDAPUserFolder-1.6...this
>> gave
>>> the error ...
>>> 2002-12-20T13:10:13 ERROR(200) Zope Could not
>> import
>>> Products.LDAPUserFolder
>>> Traceback (innermost last):
>>>   File
>> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py,
>>> line 531, in import_product
>>> File
>>>
>>
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py,
>>> line 13, in ?
>>> File
>>>
>>
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py,
>>> line 34, in ?
>>> File
>>>
>>
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUser.py,
>>> line 19, in ?
>>>     (Object: aq_inner)
>>> File
>>>
>>
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/utils.py,
>>> line 32, in ?
>>> ImportError: No module named ldap
>>>
>>>
>>> I have copied the _ldapmodule.so as instructed
>> into
>>> the LDAP folder in Products.....but still i get
>> this
>>> error....also the problem i have is that i have to
>>> install on client machine and that sys admin is
>> not
>>> very co-operative....i have access only to
>>> /usr/local/zope and my home folder....can u think
>> of a
>>> solution ...as to how i can get this running....
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> rockash.......
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
>>>> first of all (and this has nothing to do with the
>>>> real problem), why
>>>> are you using such an ancient version of the
>>>> LDAPUserFolder?
>>>>
>>>> as far as the real problem goes, it looks like
>> your
>>>> compilation of
>>>> python-ldap went wrong, or it could be that your
>>>> library search path is
>>>> missing the path to the actual OpenLDAP
>> libraries.
>>>>
>>>> jens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, Dec 20, 2002, at 08:24 US/Eastern,
>>>> Dreaming Warrior wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> i am getting this error when i am trying to
>> start
>>>>> zope...i am using
>>>>> openldap2.0.12,LDAPUserFolder1.2.beta3,i have
>>>>> installed python-ldap-2.0.0pre06 too....can
>> anyone
>>>>> checkout why it is complaining
>>>>>
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>   File
>>>>> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/Application.py",
>>>> line
>>>>> 531, in import_product
>>>>>     product=__import__(pname, global_dict,
>>>>> global_dict, silly)
>>>>>   File
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/__init__.py",
>>>>> line 13, in ?
>>>>>     from LDAPUserFolder import
>>>> addLDAPUserFolderForm,
>>>>> \
>>>>>   File
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> "/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/LDAPUserFolder.py",
>>>>> line 30, in ?
>>>>>     import _ldap
>>>>> ImportError:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/LDAPUserFolder/_ldapmodule.so:
>>>>> undefined symbol: ldap_ufn_setfilter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> rockash..............
>>>>>
>>>>>
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From scott.meilicke@intp.com  Fri Dec 20 20:23:21 2002
From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:23:21 -0800
Subject: [Zope] LocalFS and zCatalog
Message-ID: <A0CB750E1402D511A47600A0C9E110D101CD2552@IWA-MERCURY>

Dieter, thank you for the reply. For some reason I missed it last Friday.

I had done as you suggested, but retried again today, and it seems to work.
Clearly I did something different between then and now...

One interesting side effect is that when I do this from within the CMF,
using portal_catalog, it uses acquisition (inheritance?) to populate fields
such as Description with the portal description.  I'll have to figure out
how to suppress that.  At the very least I can add a Description property to
the LocalFS and leave it blank.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 1:31 PM
To: Meilicke, Scott
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] LocalFS and zCatalog

Meilicke, Scott writes:
 > I am trying to index files in a file system, not in zope, using LocalFS
and
 > zcatalog.  I have not been successful.  Is anyone doing this currently?
I did it with an older version of "LocalFS".

Did you activate cataloguing in the "LocalFS" instance configuration?

Did you add the files to the catalog (with the "Find objects and
catalog" tab of "ZCatalog")?

> Specifically, I can't figure out what index localfs.py would use with a
 > zcatalog.
"LocalFS" maps files in the filesystem to internal Zope objects
(based on extensions). Each Zope object class provides some
attriutes/methods for cataloguing. These are usually "id", "title"
and (often) "PrincipiaSearchSource".

> Also, there is a warning in the localfs help about poor
 > performance when using zcatalog support in a localfs - is this because it
 > catalogs all content with each query, and does not actually store the
 > results in zcatalog?
I do not think so...

But, when you have mapped a really big hiearchy into Zope and then
index it, it may take quite a bit of time....

Dieter
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From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 20 21:34:32 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:34:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Interesting name space question
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEAMICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

I am curious if the following is possible in dtml...

I have a dtml-method named index_html.  It calls a dtml-method named
page_header.  Is it possible for the code in page_header to obtain the title
of the index_html method?

For example:

index_html: (Title set to "Home")
   <dtml-var page_header>

page_header:
   <dtml-var Title of calling dtml method>

I have been searching through the archives and such but since dtml-methods
look up variables in the containing namespace, I'm not sure if this is a
possibility.

Any ideas?

From tpassin@mitretek.org  Fri Dec 20 21:40:06 2002
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:40:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Accessing DOM nodes from python: how?
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149AA02@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Catonano]

> I saw a javascript accessing a value put in a html tag like this:
>=20
>=20
> <TD ID=3D "blah">
> Td contents
> </TD>
>=20
> or something similar.
>=20
> Javavascript could read that "blah"
>=20
> Now, how can I do the same from python? Can I?
>=20

I am not at all sure what you want to do.  When the javascript script
accesses that value, it is operating in the browser.  Python will be in
the server.  Why should it access the page at all?  If there is data to
be sent to Python, just send it the data.  The page, in fact, will not
actually exist for Python to "access".  Only after your python scripts
are done will the page be fully assembled.

If you mean that you want to write some python code that you feed an
html page to, that is not how you would normally use Zope. =20

If you want Python to access a web page and retrieve some data from it
while it is processing a REQUEST, that is best done using an external
method.  There are a variety of ways to process a web page, but it is
not always easy, given the amazing range of invalid html code that
exists out there.  Sometimes it is easiest to use regular expressions,
and sometimes it is easiest to use the sgmlop parser (you have to write
a handler, but that is not too hard depending on what you need to do). =20

Or you can turn the html page into xml using HTML Tidy, then use xml
processing on the page.  If you do this and use the PyXML beta (or maybe
it is still alpha) package, you can get access to the W3C DOM API, and
access the page element content that way.

Cheers,

Tom P

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 18:58:27 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:58:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Object propogation
In-Reply-To: <3E02286A.4060204@bellsouth.net>
References: <3E01E064.7020106@bellsouth.net>
 <3E02286A.4060204@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15875.26707.342221.684262@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David Mackay writes:
 > ... batched "next" does not work ...
 > It does complain that the ContentText (the textindex) is not present for 
 > the subsequent requests.  I can get it to re-execute for subsequent 
 > requests by passing that in the url.  Since I'm searching a rather large 
 > record set, I was hoping to avoid the repetition of the search.  I tried 
 > saving the returned list in the session data, but I got a traceback 
 > saying that the object was unpickleable.
 > 
 > Do you have any suggestions as to how to preserve the list of mybrains 
 > objects so that I can access that, rather than re-executing the query?
You cannot preserve the sequence of "mybrain" objects, but you
can store their record ids and resolve the ids later into the objects
by means of a catalog method.

For details, please read the "ZCatalog" section of

<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

It tells you the exact name of the record id and the name of the
catalog method.

You are probably also interested in Pythons "list comprehension":
    [x.record_id_ for x in catalog(...)]

Dieter

PS: Please stay on the list.

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 20:20:45 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:20:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Encrypting passwords
In-Reply-To: <20021220164011.GD224@fishbowl.madduck.net>
References: <20021220164011.GD224@fishbowl.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <15875.31645.689947.469931@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Martin F Krafft writes:
 > In the properties of acl_users, I found a checkbox 'Encrypt user
 > passwords' and enabled it, then clicked on 'Update existing
 > passwords'. The result was that users could not log in anymore, not
 > even when I turned the checkbox off again (and clicked 'Update...').
 > 
 > What's the deal here?
Probably a bug...

You know the "Undo" facility. To get fast to a working state again.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 19:59:41 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:59:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Help with Authentication and Zope 2.6
In-Reply-To: <1398D0DBAEED324EB0E7CDC181B3B391F3A172@EROS.resource.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>
References: <1398D0DBAEED324EB0E7CDC181B3B391F3A172@EROS.resource.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <15875.30381.584613.646952@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mills Mr C P writes:
 > ...
 > When I attempt to access the resource, I get
 > prompted for a username and password three times, before it croaks with an
 > error usually 'You are not allowed to access <something> in this context'.
There is a product from Shane called something like "VerboseSecurity".
It can tell you precisely what causes insufficient authorization.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 20:04:49 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:04:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Tracebacks in 2.6.0
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEPFIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECEEPFIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15875.30689.272158.612242@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Carlson writes:
 > ...
 > Is there any way to get the detailed traceback information in 2.6.0 that was
 > available in 2.5.1?  Anyone else having this sort of trouble?
I am sure.

Shane improved traceback handling for ZPT while it was previously
  optimized for DTML.

Probably in order not to clutter the tracebacks, he does not show
  the former traceback hints ("info" and "object").
  Almost surely, they are still set and can be shown.

When you are patient, I will do that once we switched to Zope 2.6.
However, there is no timeframe, yet. Probably not before the end
of January.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 20:01:13 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:01:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] syncing two instances of zope
In-Reply-To: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com>
References: <3E025254.7020104@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15875.30473.375523.856340@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM writes:
 > I have a setup where two machines are running identical instances of 
 > zope and only one of them is active to the outside world via a firewall. 
 > As and when one of them goes down the other is activated by the firewall 
 > for the duration that the primary went down.
 > 
 > How do I keep these two instances in sync at all times ( mebbe a 10-15 
 > min delay between syncs)??
 > 
 > I looked at ZSyncer but it seems I have to explicitely specify objects 
 > to be synced.
You may think about using ZEO.

The new ZEO2 may already support replication.

If not, I was told that Zope.com has a (commercial) product that
can do this.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 19:58:03 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:58:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECOEPAIBAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15875.30283.794444.622964@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Carlson writes:
 > Forwarding control from a Python script a DTML method in Zope 2.5.1 used to
 > work like this:
 > 
 >    return _['updoc'](container, request)
I do not believe that this can work...

"_[...]" calls the looked up object when it is callable.
  A DTML object is callable.
  Its result would need to be another DTML object such that it can
  do something with the remaining call and its arguments.

> Now I am getting a Key error on 'updoc' which is a DTML method in the same
 > skinned folder as the script.
Seems that "updoc" cannot be reached by your DTML namespace.

How did you call the Python Script from the DTML object?

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 20:07:39 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:07:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope-2.6 + PostgreSQL-7.2.1 + ZPsycopgDA
In-Reply-To: <1040383836.8138.40.camel@m22241>
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Message-ID: <15875.30859.913303.402609@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry Florac writes:
 > I currently use the products described in the title on a Linux server.
 > 
 > My problem is that as the site is used (even by a little number of
 > users), more and more connections are opened on the PostgreSQL server.
 > But these connections are not released, even if many of them don't seem
 > to be reused, and after a while PostgreSQL refuse new connections saying
 > that too many connections are already open.
 > 
 > Is there any way to handle such a kind of problems in Zope, to reuse or
 > close existing connections when no more used, or is it only a PostgreSQL
 > problem ???
We have had this problem with on older version of "Psycopg/ZPsycopg".

It seems to have gone away after an upgrade, though we are not yet
sure (We upgraded several month before and we have had a single
"too many clients" problem since then, whiler formerly, we
had regular problems of this kind).

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 20:29:12 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:29:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] adding roles
In-Reply-To: <20021220165309.GA12079@fishbowl.madduck.net>
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Message-ID: <15875.32152.973484.764087@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

martin f krafft writes:
 > Can I add more roles than Manager and Owner?
You can, as much as you like. Its at the end of the "Security" page.

> Also, where can I find the description of their powers? Or is Manager
 > simply the superuser for all objects and Owner the superuser for
 > objects owned by oneself?
A role does not have any built in power (with the exception of "Manager"
which, by default, has any permission).

You associate roles with users (which means that the user can act in
the role).
You map permissions to roles (which means that the role has the permission).
You protect methods by permissions.

User "u" can call method "m" protected by permission "p"
when "u" has a role "r" associated with permission "p".
(There is another quirk to prevent Trojan horse attacks, but read
about that in the Zope Developer Guide).

The "Owner" role has no built in power but is automatically
mapped as a "local role" (--> Zope Book, Zope Developer Guide)
to the creator of an object.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 20 19:08:48 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:08:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
In-Reply-To: <200212191938.58889.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
 <200212182034.53656.kvthan@wm.edu>
 <200212191938.58889.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <15875.27328.349086.153304@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bo M. Maryniuck writes:
 > On Thursday 19 December 2002 06:34, kapil thangavelu wrote:
 > > design costs of opening up a db connection per user, which is
 > > horribly inefficient anyways.
 > 
 > Hmm. But Oracle J2EE can do that via Web.
Oracle can reassign a new user for an existing connection.
No need to open a new one...

Dieter

From dancam@netcourrier.com  Fri Dec 20 23:01:36 2002
From: dancam@netcourrier.com (dancam@netcourrier.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:01:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com> <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main>
Message-ID: <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have used  a free service that checks documents like HTML and XHTML for
conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
http://validator.w3.org/detailed.html to check
 http://www.zope.org/Register/register.html

"W3C writing"
      File:  register[1].html
      Doctype:
      Encoding:

I was not able to extract a character encoding labeling from any of the
valid sources for such information. Without encoding information it is
impossible to validate the document. The sources I tried are:

a.. The HTTP Content-Type field.
  b.. The XML Declaration.
  c.. The HTML "META" element.
And I even tried to autodetect it using the algorithm defined in Appendix F
of the XML 1.0 Recommendation.

Since none of these sources yielded any usable information, I will not be
able to validate this document. Sorry. Please make sure you specify the
character encoding in use.

>>>
    I  correct this line
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html4.01/loose.dtd">
instead of
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd">
 notice the change 4.0 to 4.01 because it is not html 4.0 if you don't share
this idea forgive me
but note that is surely not html 40
and I add
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
and checked again the file
>>

Errors:    20
  * Line 189, column 69: cannot generate system identifier for general
entity "origin_url"
This page is not Valid {HTML 4.01} Transitional!

Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an SGML
parser.
... attached file

www.quantax.com errors 70
http://www.nuxeo.com errors 101
http://www.zopera.org errors 126
http://www.hotmail.com errors 185
http://www.freezope.org errors 192
http://yahoo.com errors 233
http://www.zopelabs.com/ errors 326
http://www.microsoft.com errors 489
http://www.macromedia.com errors 618
http://www.postnuke.com 631
(once erroneous doctypes were corrected)

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: attachment;
	filename="check.html"

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"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"><html =
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lang=3D"en"><head><title>Validation Results</title>
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<body>
    <h1 id=3D"title"><a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/"><img height=3D"48" =
alt=3D"W3C" id=3D"logo" src=3D"check_fichiers/w3c_home.png"></a>
      MarkUp Validation Service</h1>
    <div class=3D"navbar">
      <p class=3D"main">
        <span class=3D"hideme"><a href=3D"#skip" accesskey=3D"s" =
title=3D"Skip past navigation to main part of page">Skip Navigation</a> =
|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/" accesskey=3D"h" title=3D"Go =
to the Home Page for The W3C MarkUp Validation =
Service">Home=C2=A0Page</a> <span class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/" title=3D"Documentation =
for this Service">Documentation</a> <span class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/source/" title=3D"Information =
on Source Availability">Source=C2=A0Code</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/whatsnew.html" title=3D"The =
changes made to this service recently">What's=C2=A0New</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/accesskeys.html" =
accesskey=3D"k" title=3D"Accesskey Legend for the Validator =
Service">Accesskeys</a> <span class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/feedback.html" title=3D"How =
to provide feedback on this service">Feedback</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/about.html" =
title=3D"Information About this Service">About...</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/favelets.html" =
title=3D"Favelets for the Validator">Favelets</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"none">
        <a href=3D"http://valet.webthing.com/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The Site Valet QA Tools">Site Valet</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"The WDG HTML Validator"><acronym title=3D"Web =
Design Group">WDG</acronym> Validator</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"The W3C CSS Validator"><acronym =
title=3D"Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> =C2=A0Validator</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/checklink" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The W3C Link Checker">Link=C2=A0Checker</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"The HTML Tidy Home Page"><acronym =
title=3D"HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym>=C2=A0Tidy</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://cgi.w3.org/cgi-bin/tidy" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The HTML Tidy Tool Online">Tidy=C2=A0Online</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"none">
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The XHTML 1.1 Recommendation"><acronym title=3D"eXtensible =
HyperText Markup Language">XHTML</acronym>=C2=A01.1</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The XHTML 1.0 Recommendation"><acronym title=3D"eXtensible =
HyperText Markup Language">XHTML</acronym>=C2=A01.0</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The HTML 4.01 Recommendation"><acronym title=3D"HyperText =
Markup Language">HTML</acronym>=C2=A04.01</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"none">
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The XSL 1.0 Proposed Recommendation"><acronym =
title=3D"eXtensible Style Language">XSL</acronym>=C2=A01.0</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The CSS Level 2 Recommendation"><acronym title=3D"Cascading =
Style Sheets">CSS</acronym>=C2=A0Level=C2=A02</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The CSS Level 1 Recommendation"><acronym title=3D"Cascading =
Style Sheets">CSS</acronym>=C2=A0Level=C2=A01</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
      </p>
      <p class=3D"none">
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/WAI/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"The Web Accessibility Initiative Home Page"><acronym =
title=3D"Web Accessibility Initiative">WAI</acronym>=C2=A0Home</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/Talks/WAI-Intro/slide1-0.html" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"Overview of the Web Accessibility =
Initiative"><acronym title=3D"Web Accessibility =
Initiative">WAI</acronym>=C2=A0Overview</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/WAI/bcase/benefits.html" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"Benefits of Accessible Web Design"><acronym =
title=3D"Web Accessibility Initiative">WAI</acronym>=C2=A0Benefits</a> =
<span class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/05/WCAG-REC-fact" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"Frequently Asked Questions About The Web =
Content Accessibility Guidelines"><acronym title=3D"Web Content =
Accessibility Guidelines">WCAG</acronym>=C2=A0<acronym =
title=3D"Frequently Asked Questions">FAQ</acronym></a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/" class=3D"offsite" =
title=3D"Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0"><acronym title=3D"Web =
Content Accessibility Guidelines">WCAG</acronym>=C2=A01.0</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/WAI/gettingstarted/" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"WAI Getting Started Guide"><acronym =
title=3D"Web Accessibility Initiative">WAI</acronym>=C2=A0Intro</a> =
<span class=3D"hideme">|</span>
        <a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/WAI/References/QuickTips/" =
class=3D"offsite" title=3D"WAI Quick Tips"><acronym title=3D"Web =
Accessibility Initiative">WAI</acronym>=C2=A0Tips</a> <span =
class=3D"hideme">|</span>
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    </div>
    <div class=3D"meat">
      <p id=3D"skip" class=3D"jumpbar">
        Jump To: [<a title=3D"Result of Validation" =
href=3D"#result">Results</a>]
      </p>
<div class=3D"splash">
<table class=3D"header">
  <tbody><tr>
    <th>File: </th>
    <td>register.htm</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <th>Content-Type: </th>
    <td colspan=3D"2">text/html</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <th>Encoding: </th>
    <td>iso-8859-1</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <th>Doctype: </th>
    <td><a href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/">HTML =
4.01</a> Transitional</td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <th>Errors: </th>
    <td>20</td>
  </tr>
</tbody></table>
  <ul id=3D"Warnings">
    <li>Line 189, column 69:  cannot generate system identifier for =
general entity "origin_url"
</li>
  </ul>
</div>
    <h2 id=3D"result" class=3D"invalid">This page is =
<strong>not</strong> Valid <a =
href=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/">HTML 4.01</a> =
Transitional!</h2>
  <p>
    Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with
    an SGML parser.
  </p>
  <ol>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-4">4</a>, column 35</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> character data is not allowed here
</span>
<pre>  <code class=3D"input"><base href=3D"http://www.zope.org/" =
/></code>
                                     <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-13">13</a>, column 80</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "TOPMARGIN"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...=3D"#000066" VLINK=3D"#606060" =
TOPMARGIN=3D"0" LEFTMARGIN=3D"0" MARGINWIDTH=3D"0" MARGI</code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-13">13</a>, column 95</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "LEFTMARGIN"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...K=3D"#606060" TOPMARGIN=3D"0" =
LEFTMARGIN=3D"0" MARGINWIDTH=3D"0" MARGINHEIGHT=3D"0"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-13">13</a>, column 111</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "MARGINWIDTH"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...ARGIN=3D"0" LEFTMARGIN=3D"0" =
MARGINWIDTH=3D"0" MARGINHEIGHT=3D"0"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-13">13</a>, column 128</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "MARGINHEIGHT"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...GIN=3D"0" MARGINWIDTH=3D"0" =
MARGINHEIGHT=3D"0"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-19">19</a>, column 133</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> value of attribute "ALIGN" cannot be "ABSMIDDLE"; must be =
one of "TOP", "MIDDLE", "BOTTOM", "LEFT", "RIGHT"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#unkn-att-val">explain...=
</a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...ecom.gif" ALT=3D"Zope" =
ALIGN=3D"ABSMIDDLE" WIDTH=3D"150" HEIGHT=3D"63" =
BORDER=3D"0"></A</code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-20">20</a>, column 60</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "XWIDTH"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">    <TD BGCOLOR=3D"#6699CC" =
VALIGN=3D"TOP" ALIGN=3D"RIGHT" xWIDTH=3D"99%" =
CLASS=3D"welcome"></code>
                                                              <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-35">35</a>, column 82</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> value of attribute "ALIGN" cannot be "ABSMIDDLE"; must be =
one of "TOP", "MIDDLE", "BOTTOM", "LEFT", "RIGHT"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#unkn-att-val">explain...=
</a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...if" ALT=3D"Go Button!" =
ALIGN=3D"ABSMIDDLE" BORDER=3D"0" WIDTH=3D"20" HEIGHT=3D"20"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-35">35</a>, column 91</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "BORDER"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...Go Button!" ALIGN=3D"ABSMIDDLE" =
BORDER=3D"0" WIDTH=3D"20" HEIGHT=3D"20"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-35">35</a>, column 101</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "WIDTH"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">..." ALIGN=3D"ABSMIDDLE" BORDER=3D"0" =
WIDTH=3D"20" HEIGHT=3D"20"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-35">35</a>, column 113</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "HEIGHT"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...MIDDLE" BORDER=3D"0" WIDTH=3D"20" =
HEIGHT=3D"20"></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-37">37</a>, column 8</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> end tag for element "P" which is not open
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#floating-close">explain.=
..</a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">     </p></code>
          <span class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-39">39</a>, column 137</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> required attribute "ALT" not specified
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-missing">explain...=
</a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...if" WIDTH=3D"14" HEIGHT=3D"20" =
BORDER=3D"0"></TD></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-80">80</a>, column 36</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> there is no attribute "ALT"
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-undef">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input"><p><a href=3D"http://python.org/" =
alt=3D"Python Powered!" ><img src=3D"http://www.zope</code>
                                      <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-80">80</a>, column 114</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> required attribute "ALT" not specified
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#attr-missing">explain...=
</a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input">...ope.org/Images/python.gif" =
border=3D"0"></a></p></code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-159">159</a>, column 49</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> document type does not allow element "INPUT" here
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#not-allowed-contained">e=
xplain...</a>).
<pre>  <code class=3D"input"><input type=3D"hidden" value=3D"" =
name=3D"public_email"></code>
                                                   <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-189">189</a>, column 69</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> cannot generate system identifier for general entity =
"origin_url"
</span>
<pre>  <code =
class=3D"input">...feedback_site_form?whats_up=3DRegister&origin_url=3D=
http://www.zope.org/Register"</code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-189">189</a>, column 69</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> general entity "origin_url" not defined and no default =
entity
</span> (<a =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/docs/errors.html#bad-entity">explain...</=
a>).
<pre>  <code =
class=3D"input">...feedback_site_form?whats_up=3DRegister&origin_url=3D=
http://www.zope.org/Register"</code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-189">189</a>, column 79</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> reference to entity "origin_url" for which no system =
identifier could be generated
</span>
<pre>  <code =
class=3D"input">...ite_form?whats_up=3DRegister&origin_url=3Dhttp://w=
ww.zope.org/Register">Feedback </code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  <li><em>Line <a href=3D"#line-189">189</a>, column 68</em>: <span =
class=3D"msg"> entity was defined here
</span>
<pre>  <code =
class=3D"input">.../feedback_site_form?whats_up=3DRegister&origin_url=
=3Dhttp://www.zope.org/Register</code>
                                          <span =
class=3D"markup">^</span></pre></li>
  </ol>
  <div id=3D"source" class=3D"mtb">
    <h2>Source Listing</h2>

<p>Below is the source input I used for this validation:</p>
   =20
    <pre><a name=3D"line-1">   1</a>: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =
"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" =
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html4.01/loose.dtd">
<a name=3D"line-2">   2</a>: <HTML>
<a name=3D"line-3">   3</a>:  <HEAD>
<a name=3D"line-4">   4</a>: <base href=3D"http://www.zope.org/" =
/>
<a name=3D"line-5">   5</a>: <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" />
<a name=3D"line-6">   6</a>:  <TITLE>Register</TITLE>
<a name=3D"line-7">   7</a>:   <link rel=3D"stylesheet" =
href=3D"http://www.zope.org/zope_css" type=3D"text/css">
<a name=3D"line-8">   8</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-9">   9</a>:  =20
<a name=3D"line-10">  10</a>:     </HEAD>
<a name=3D"line-11">  11</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-12">  12</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-13">  13</a>: <BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#FFFFFF" =
TEXT=3D"#000000" LINK=3D"#000066" VLINK=3D"#606060" TOPMARGIN=3D"0" =
LEFTMARGIN=3D"0" MARGINWIDTH=3D"0" MARGINHEIGHT=3D"0">
<a name=3D"line-14">  14</a>:  <BASEFONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Arial, =
Helvetica, sans-serif" SIZE=3D"2">
<a name=3D"line-15">  15</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-16">  16</a>:    <TABLE BORDER=3D"0" =
CELLPADDING=3D"0" CELLSPACING=3D"0" >
<a name=3D"line-17">  17</a>:    <TR>
<a name=3D"line-18">  18</a>:     <TD WIDTH=3D"10" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699cc" ALIGN=3DCENTER>&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-19">  19</a>:     <TD COLSPAN=3D"2" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699CC" VALIGN=3D"TOP" WIDTH=3D"165"><A =
HREF=3D"/"><IMG SRC=3D"/Images/zopecom.gif" ALT=3D"Zope" =
ALIGN=3D"ABSMIDDLE" WIDTH=3D"150" HEIGHT=3D"63" =
BORDER=3D"0"></A></TD>=20
<a name=3D"line-20">  20</a>:     <TD BGCOLOR=3D"#6699CC" =
VALIGN=3D"TOP" ALIGN=3D"RIGHT" xWIDTH=3D"99%" CLASS=3D"welcome">
<a name=3D"line-21">  21</a>:      <p class=3D"welcome">
<a name=3D"line-22">  22</a>:       <a class=3D"globalmenu" =
href=3D"http://www.zope.com">Zope Corp</A>
<a name=3D"line-23">  23</a>:       | <A CLASS=3D"globalmenu" =
HREF=3D"/SiteIndex/searchForm">Search</A>
<a name=3D"line-24">  24</a>:       | <a CLASS=3D"globalmenu" =
href=3D"/Products">Download</a>
<a name=3D"line-25">  25</a>:       | <a CLASS=3D"globalmenu" =
href=3D"/Documentation">Docs</a>
<a name=3D"line-26">  26</a>:       | <a CLASS=3D"globalmenu" =
href=3D"/Resources">Resources</a>
<a name=3D"line-27">  27</a>:       | <a class=3D"globalmenu" =
href=3D"http://dev.zope.org">Development</a>
<a name=3D"line-28">  28</a>:             <BR>
<a name=3D"line-29">  29</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-30">  30</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-31">  31</a>:       <FORM =
ACTION=3D"/SiteIndex/search" METHOD=3D"GET" name=3D"search">
<a name=3D"line-32">  32</a>:       Search=20
<a name=3D"line-33">  33</a>:         <INPUT TYPE=3D"text" =
NAME=3D"text_content" SIZE=3D"15">
<a name=3D"line-34">  34</a>:         &nbsp;
<a name=3D"line-35">  35</a>:         <INPUT TYPE=3D"IMAGE" =
SRC=3D"/Images/go.gif" ALT=3D"Go Button!" ALIGN=3D"ABSMIDDLE" =
BORDER=3D"0" WIDTH=3D"20" HEIGHT=3D"20">
<a name=3D"line-36">  36</a>:     </FORM>
<a name=3D"line-37">  37</a>:      </p>
<a name=3D"line-38">  38</a>:     </TD>
<a name=3D"line-39">  39</a>:     <TD WIDTH=3D"10" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699CC" ALIGN=3D"RIGHT" VALIGN=3D"BOTTOM"><IMG =
SRC=3D"/Images/blue-rounder1.gif" WIDTH=3D"14" HEIGHT=3D"20" =
BORDER=3D"0"></TD>
<a name=3D"line-40">  40</a>:    </TR>
<a name=3D"line-41">  41</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-42">  42</a>:    <TR>
<a name=3D"line-43">  43</a>:     <TD WIDTH=3D"10" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699cc">&nbsp;</td>
<a name=3D"line-44">  44</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-45">  45</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-46">  46</a>:     <TD WIDTH=3D"150" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699CC" VALIGN=3DTOP>
<a name=3D"line-47">  47</a>:            <H2 =
CLASS=3D"lefttitle">&nbsp;Guest</H2>
<a name=3D"line-48">  48</a>:       <p class=3D"sidemenu">
<a name=3D"line-49">  49</a>:        <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"/Register/register.html">Join Zope.org</A>=20
<a name=3D"line-50">  50</a>:        <BR>
<a name=3D"line-51">  51</a>:        <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"/login.html?came_from=3Dhttp://www.zope.org/Register/register.htm=
l">Log in</A>
<a name=3D"line-52">  52</a>:           </p>
<a name=3D"line-53">  53</a>: 	=09
<a name=3D"line-54">  54</a>:               =20
<a name=3D"line-55">  55</a>:     =20
<a name=3D"line-56">  56</a>:      <HR NOSHADE SIZE=3D"0.5" =
WIDTH=3D"95%">
<a name=3D"line-57">  57</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-58">  58</a>: <H2 =
CLASS=3D"lefttitle">&nbsp;Zope Exits</H2>
<a name=3D"line-59">  59</a>:      <p class=3D"sidemenu">
<a name=3D"line-60">  60</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://dev.zope.org/">dev.zope.org</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-61">  61</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://cmf.zope.org/">CMF Dogbowl</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-62">  62</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://collector.zope.org/Zope">Zope =
Collector</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-63">  63</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://cvs.zope.org/">Zope CVS</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-64">  64</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://www.zopezen.org/">ZopeZen</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-65">  65</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://www.zopenewbies.net/">Zope Newbies</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-66">  66</a>:   <a class=3D"sidemenu" =
href=3D"http://www.zopelabs.com/">Zope Labs</a><br />
<a name=3D"line-67">  67</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://www.eurozope.org/">EuroZope</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-68">  68</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://www.zopera.org/">Zopera</A><BR>
<a name=3D"line-69">  69</a>:   <A CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
HREF=3D"http://www.freezope.org">FreeZope</A><BR>=20
<a name=3D"line-70">  70</a>:   <a CLASS=3D"sidemenu" =
href=3D"http://www.nipltd.net/Free">NIP Free Zope Hosting</a>
<a name=3D"line-71">  71</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-72">  72</a>:      </p>
<a name=3D"line-73">  73</a>:      <HR NOSHADE SIZE=3D"0.5" =
WIDTH=3D"95%">
<a name=3D"line-74">  74</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-75">  75</a>: <p><a =
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735711372/zopeorg-20">=

<a name=3D"line-76">  76</a>: <img =
src=3D"http://www.zope.org/Images/zopebook.png" alt=3D"The Zope Book" =
height=3D"140" width=3D"109" border=3D"0" /></a>
<a name=3D"line-77">  77</a>: </p>
<a name=3D"line-78">  78</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-79">  79</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-80">  80</a>: <p><a href=3D"http://python.org/" =
alt=3D"Python Powered!" ><img =
src=3D"http://www.zope.org/Images/python.gif" =
border=3D"0"></a></p>
<a name=3D"line-81">  81</a>:     </TD>
<a name=3D"line-82">  82</a>:     <TD COLSPAN=3D"2" VALIGN=3DTOP>
<a name=3D"line-83">  83</a>:      <table cellpadding=3D"10" =
cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"100%">
<a name=3D"line-84">  84</a>:       <tr valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-85">  85</a>:        <td>
<a name=3D"line-86">  86</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-87">  87</a>: =20
<a name=3D"line-88">  88</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-89">  89</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-90">  90</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-91">  91</a>: <h2>Become a member</h2>
<a name=3D"line-92">  92</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-93">  93</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-94">  94</a>: <p>
<a name=3D"line-95">  95</a>: Becoming a member gives you the ability to =

<a name=3D"line-96">  96</a>: personalize the site and participate in =
the=20
<a name=3D"line-97">  97</a>: community.
<a name=3D"line-98">  98</a>: </p>
<a name=3D"line-99">  99</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-100"> 100</a>: <p>
<a name=3D"line-101"> 101</a>: It does not cost any money to become a =
member
<a name=3D"line-102"> 102</a>: and your email and other personal =
information
<a name=3D"line-103"> 103</a>: will remain private.
<a name=3D"line-104"> 104</a>: </p>
<a name=3D"line-105"> 105</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-106"> 106</a>: <p>
<a name=3D"line-107"> 107</a>: You must submit a valid email address. =
This
<a name=3D"line-108"> 108</a>: address will be used to send you your =
password.
<a name=3D"line-109"> 109</a>: </p>
<a name=3D"line-110"> 110</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-111"> 111</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-112"> 112</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-113"> 113</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-114"> 114</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-115"> 115</a>: <form action=3D"register" =
method=3D"POST">
<a name=3D"line-116"> 116</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-117"> 117</a>: <input type=3D"hidden" =
name=3D"last_visit:date" value=3D"2002/12/20 14:11:56.4079 =
US/Eastern">
<a name=3D"line-118"> 118</a>: <input type=3D"hidden" =
name=3D"prev_visit:date" value=3D"2002/12/20 14:11:56.4085 =
US/Eastern">
<a name=3D"line-119"> 119</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-120"> 120</a>: <table cellpadding=3D"2" =
cellspacing=3D"2" border=3D"0">
<a name=3D"line-121"> 121</a>: <tr>
<a name=3D"line-122"> 122</a>:   <th bgcolor=3D"#efefef" =
align=3D"left" valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-123"> 123</a>:   Login Name
<a name=3D"line-124"> 124</a>:   </th>
<a name=3D"line-125"> 125</a>:   <td align=3D"left" =
valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-126"> 126</a>:   <input type=3D"text" =
name=3D"username" size=3D"30"
<a name=3D"line-127"> 127</a>:    value=3D"">
<a name=3D"line-128"> 128</a>:   </td>
<a name=3D"line-129"> 129</a>: </tr>
<a name=3D"line-130"> 130</a>: <tr>
<a name=3D"line-131"> 131</a>:   <th bgcolor=3D"#efefef" =
align=3D"left" valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-132"> 132</a>:   Email Address
<a name=3D"line-133"> 133</a>:   </th>
<a name=3D"line-134"> 134</a>:   <td align=3D"left" =
valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-135"> 135</a>:   <input type=3D"text" name=3D"email" =
size=3D"30"
<a name=3D"line-136"> 136</a>:   value=3D"">
<a name=3D"line-137"> 137</a>:   </td>
<a name=3D"line-138"> 138</a>: </tr>
<a name=3D"line-139"> 139</a>: <tr>
<a name=3D"line-140"> 140</a>:   <th bgcolor=3D"#efefef" =
align=3D"left" valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-141"> 141</a>:   Full Name<br>(Optional)
<a name=3D"line-142"> 142</a>:   </th>
<a name=3D"line-143"> 143</a>:   <td align=3D"left" =
valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-144"> 144</a>:   <input type=3D"text" =
name=3D"full_name" size=3D"30"=20
<a name=3D"line-145"> 145</a>:    value=3D"">
<a name=3D"line-146"> 146</a>:   </td>
<a name=3D"line-147"> 147</a>: </tr>
<a name=3D"line-148"> 148</a>: <tr>
<a name=3D"line-149"> 149</a>:   <th bgcolor=3D"#efefef" =
align=3D"left" valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-150"> 150</a>:   Company<br>(Optional)
<a name=3D"line-151"> 151</a>:   </th>
<a name=3D"line-152"> 152</a>:   <td align=3D"left" =
valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-153"> 153</a>:   <input type=3D"text" =
name=3D"company" size=3D"30"
<a name=3D"line-154"> 154</a>:   value=3D"">
<a name=3D"line-155"> 155</a>:   </td>
<a name=3D"line-156"> 156</a>: </tr>
<a name=3D"line-157"> 157</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-158"> 158</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-159"> 159</a>: <input type=3D"hidden" value=3D"" =
name=3D"public_email">
<a name=3D"line-160"> 160</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-161"> 161</a>: <tr>
<a name=3D"line-162"> 162</a>:   <td></td>
<a name=3D"line-163"> 163</a>:   <td align=3D"left" =
valign=3D"top">
<a name=3D"line-164"> 164</a>:   <input type=3D"submit" =
name=3D"submit" value=3D"Register!">=20
<a name=3D"line-165"> 165</a>:   </td>
<a name=3D"line-166"> 166</a>: </tr>
<a name=3D"line-167"> 167</a>: </table>
<a name=3D"line-168"> 168</a>: </form>
<a name=3D"line-169"> 169</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-170"> 170</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-171"> 171</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-172"> 172</a>:       </td>
<a name=3D"line-173"> 173</a>:      </tr>
<a name=3D"line-174"> 174</a>:     </table>
<a name=3D"line-175"> 175</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-176"> 176</a>: 	=09
<a name=3D"line-177"> 177</a>:    </TD>
<a name=3D"line-178"> 178</a>:    <TD WIDTH=3D"10" =
ALIGN=3DCENTER>&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-179"> 179</a>:   </TR>
<a name=3D"line-180"> 180</a>:   <TR><TD WIDTH=3D"10" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699cc"ALIGN=3DCENTER>&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-181"> 181</a>:    <TD WIDTH=3D"150" =
BGCOLOR=3D"#6699CC" ALIGN=3DRIGHT VALIGN=3DBOTTOM><IMG =
SRC=3D"/Images/blue-rounder2.gif" WIDTH=3D"142" HEIGHT=3D"20" =
BORDER=3D"0" ALT=3D""></TD>
<a name=3D"line-182"> 182</a>:    <TD COLSPAN=3D"2" ALIGN=3DCENTER =
CLASS=3D"plain"><HR NOSHADE SIZE=3D"0" WIDTH=3D"95%">
<a name=3D"line-183"> 183</a>:     <a =
href=3D"/privacy.html">Privacy policy</a> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a name=3D"line-184"> 184</a>:    =20
<a name=3D"line-185"> 185</a>:        <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.zope.org/Register/register.html?pp=3D1">Printable =
Page</A>    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a name=3D"line-186"> 186</a>:    =20
<a name=3D"line-187"> 187</a>:            <A =
HREF=3D"/Members/brian/feedback_form?came_from=3Dhttp://www.zope.org/Regi=
ster">Feedback to this page's =
author</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<a name=3D"line-188"> 188</a>:         =20
<a name=3D"line-189"> 189</a>:    <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.zope.org/feedback_site_form?whats_up=3DRegister&or=
igin_url=3Dhttp://www.zope.org/Register">Feedback about =
Zope.org</A>
<a name=3D"line-190"> 190</a>:   =20
<a name=3D"line-191"> 191</a>:           =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.zope.org/Register/register.html/view_source">DTML =
Source</A>
<a name=3D"line-192"> 192</a>:     =20
<a name=3D"line-193"> 193</a>:        </TD>
<a name=3D"line-194"> 194</a>:    <TD WIDTH=3D"10" =
ALIGN=3DCENTER>&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-195"> 195</a>:   </TR>
<a name=3D"line-196"> 196</a>:   <TR>
<a name=3D"line-197"> 197</a>:    <TD =
WIDTH=3D"10">&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-198"> 198</a>:    <TD WIDTH=3D"150">
<a name=3D"line-199"> 199</a>: 
<a name=3D"line-202"> 202</a>: </TD>
<a name=3D"line-203"> 203</a>:    <TD =
WIDTH=3D"150">&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-204"> 204</a>:    <TD>&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-205"> 205</a>:    <TD =
WIDTH=3D"10">&nbsp;</TD>
<a name=3D"line-206"> 206</a>:   </TR>
<a name=3D"line-207"> 207</a>:  </TABLE>
<a name=3D"line-208"> 208</a>: =20
<a name=3D"line-209"> 209</a>: =20
<a name=3D"line-210"> 210</a>:  <P CLASS=3D"copyright">&copy; =
2002
<a name=3D"line-211"> 211</a>: <a =
href=3D"http://www.zope.com/">Zope Corporation</a> All rights =
reserved.</P>
<a name=3D"line-212"> 212</a>:=20
<a name=3D"line-213"> 213</a>: </BODY>
<a name=3D"line-214"> 214</a>: </HTML>
    </pre>
  </div></div> 
    <address>
      <a href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img =
src=3D"check_fichiers/valid-xhtml10.png" height=3D"31" width=3D"88" =
alt=3D"Valid XHTML 1.0!"></a>
      <a title=3D"Send Feedback for the W3C MarkUp Validation Service" =
href=3D"http://validator.w3.org/feedback.html">The W3C Validator =
Team</a><br>
      Date: 2002/11/30 23:18:00=20
      
    </address>
  </body></html>
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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Fri Dec 20 23:22:23 2002
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:22:23 -0800
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
In-Reply-To: <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH>
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com> <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main> <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH>
Message-ID: <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>

>  1. Line 4, column 35: character data is not allowed here
>       <base href="http://www.zope.org/" />
>                                         ^

Zope generates XHTML by default[1], if you need to generate older formats
you'll have to override all zope-generated markup, review the mailing
list archive for various examples of how to do this.

[1] Except where it doesn't; like the Image.tag() method which is broken.
    See bug #634 ... trivial to fix, but nobody has.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"You came all this way, without saying squat, and now you're trying
 to tell me a '56 Chevy can beat a '47 Buick in a dead quarter mile?
 I liked you better when you weren't saying squat kid."	-Buddy

From list@zettai.net  Fri Dec 20 19:27:43 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:27:43 +0000
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
In-Reply-To: <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <BA291FAE.15A17%list@zettai.net>

this may be true, for example, for new page templates, but this is not true
for, e.g., the dtml-tree tag or the ZMI, not to say that these can not be
changed with some source hacking.

Although I think it would be great to have everything Zope-related spew
perfect, validating XML/XHTML all the time, its not really that important
because all browsers support the old deprecated HTML stuff, probably will
for a long time, including all kinds of non-standard html. Its also a little
quixotic because browsers do not completely support the latest standards
yet.

99% of the time, to talk about "what html Zope produces" is a fallacy,
because, as others have said, Zope produces very little html that the coder
can not change. I.E, the HTML that Zope produces is entirely in your hands
for all intents and purposes.

<-->
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Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
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> From: Jamie Heilman <jamie@audible.transient.net>
> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:22:23 -0800
> To: dancam@netcourrier.com
> Cc: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
> 
> Zope generates XHTML by default[1], if you need to generate older formats
> you'll have to override all zope-generated markup, review the mailing
> list archive for various examples of how to do this.
> 
> [1] Except where it doesn't; like the Image.tag() method which is broken.
> See bug #634 ... trivial to fix, but nobody has.

From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Sat Dec 21 00:46:56 2002
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 01:46:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com> <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main> <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH> <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <004401c2a88a$777932e0$0100a8c0@AHAH>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Heilman" <jamie@audible.transient.net>
To: <dancam@netcourrier.com>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards

> >  1. Line 4, column 35: character data is not allowed here
> >       <base href="http://www.zope.org/" />
> >                                         ^
>
> Zope generates XHTML by default[1], if you need to generate older formats
> you'll have to override all zope-generated markup, review the mailing
> list archive for various examples of how to do this.
>
Sorry, I was not clear again..

-because of  this 40 in  REC-html40/loose.dtd instead of 4.0, W3C doesn't
understand the Doctype
- to validate you are obliged to override the Doctype
- I made the mistake do it by hand, it would have been clearer to let W3c to
do it
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zope.org&doctype=HTML+4.0
1+Transitional&charset=iso-8859-1+%28Western+Europe%29&ss=1&No200=1&verbose=
1

don't stop at the first warning ..
the one which is worrying me is
  a.. Line 283, column 84: cannot generate system identifier for general
entity "origin_url"

> [1] Except where it doesn't; like the Image.tag() method which is broken.
>     See bug #634 ... trivial to fix, but nobody has.
>
> --
> Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
> "You came all this way, without saying squat, and now you're trying
>  to tell me a '56 Chevy can beat a '47 Buick in a dead quarter mile?
>  I liked you better when you weren't saying squat kid." -Buddy
>
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From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Sat Dec 21 01:25:40 2002
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:25:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
References: <BA291FAE.15A17%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <007a01c2a88f$e0fa87a0$0100a8c0@AHAH>

It will not cost anything to correct the spelling mistake in the Doctype
(in the meantime why not change to html.4.1)
BUT
if W3C cannot generate system identifier for general entity "origin_url"
because of the use of & instead of & ,
why every browser on earth should? I am unfortunately entitled to think the
opposite... as at least one,  mine ( IE6 SP1 under XP) will hang on a page
generated by Plone if  I don't replace the faulty &
The fact that I'm not alone  (there are clients  of Hotmail and Msn
complaining to name a few)  lets me "hope" it will have soon a SP2

----- Original Message -----
From: "george donnelly" <list@zettai.net>
To: "Jamie Heilman" <jamie@audible.transient.net>; <dancam@netcourrier.com>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards

> this may be true, for example, for new page templates, but this is not
true
> for, e.g., the dtml-tree tag or the ZMI, not to say that these can not be
> changed with some source hacking.
>
> Although I think it would be great to have everything Zope-related spew
> perfect, validating XML/XHTML all the time, its not really that important
> because all browsers support the old deprecated HTML stuff, probably will
> for a long time, including all kinds of non-standard html. Its also a
little
> quixotic because browsers do not completely support the latest standards
> yet.
>
> 99% of the time, to talk about "what html Zope produces" is a fallacy,
> because, as others have said, Zope produces very little html that the
coder
> can not change. I.E, the HTML that Zope produces is entirely in your hands
> for all intents and purposes.
>
> <-->
> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :)
> Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
> Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
>
> > From: Jamie Heilman <jamie@audible.transient.net>
> > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:22:23 -0800
> > To: dancam@netcourrier.com
> > Cc: zope@zope.org
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other
standards
> >
> > Zope generates XHTML by default[1], if you need to generate older
formats
> > you'll have to override all zope-generated markup, review the mailing
> > list archive for various examples of how to do this.
> >
> > [1] Except where it doesn't; like the Image.tag() method which is
broken.
> > See bug #634 ... trivial to fix, but nobody has.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Dec 21 01:36:17 2002
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:36:17 -0800
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
In-Reply-To: <004401c2a88a$777932e0$0100a8c0@AHAH>
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com> <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main> <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH> <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net> <004401c2a88a$777932e0$0100a8c0@AHAH>
Message-ID: <20021221013617.GJ25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>

>   a.. Line 283, column 84: cannot generate system identifier for general
> entity "origin_url"

Oh.  Yeah sure thats because of the bare &.  Should be & like
you've been saying, whatever generated the URI is broken, or its just
a typo.  I gather from your first thread (and please, stop creating
new threads by replying to already existing ones, its irritating) that
you're concerned that URI attribute values generated by Plone aren't
doing ampersand entity encoding correct.  And this evidently affects
Zope too?  So my question to you is this, what Zope function is it
that is automagically generating these bad URIs?  Figure that out and
we can fix it.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"It's almost impossible to overestimate the unimportance of most things."
							-John Logue

From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Dec 21 01:54:41 2002
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:54:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
In-Reply-To: <BA291FAE.15A17%list@zettai.net>
References: <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net> <BA291FAE.15A17%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <20021221015441.GK25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>

> this may be true, for example, for new page templates, but this is not true
> for, e.g., the dtml-tree tag or the ZMI, not to say that these can not be
> changed with some source hacking.

I wasn't aware page templates generated any markup on their own.  Yes,
the dtml-tree tag is a mess, thankfully there are viable alternatives.
 
> Although I think it would be great to have everything Zope-related spew
> perfect, validating XML/XHTML all the time, its not really that important
> because all browsers support the old deprecated HTML stuff, probably will
> for a long time, including all kinds of non-standard html. Its also a little
> quixotic because browsers do not completely support the latest standards
> yet.

Maybe valid xhtml and such isn't important to you, but it is to me.

> 99% of the time, to talk about "what html Zope produces" is a fallacy,
> because, as others have said, Zope produces very little html that the coder
> can not change. I.E, the HTML that Zope produces is entirely in your hands
> for all intents and purposes.

Both the <base> tag, and the Image.tag() method are examples of markup
generated by Zope (which, yes, can be overridden, and that was the
entire jist of my reply).  It may be 99% of people who are accusing
Zope of generating bad markup don't know what they are talking about,
but that doesn't make my examples any less valid.  My understanding of
the markup generation policy is that any and all code which generates
markup of its own should aim for standards compliance, and that which
falls short should be classified as a bug and fixed.  You've pointed
out another piece of the framework which needs help, dtml-tree, but I
don't see any bugs filed against it, perhaps you should do so.

From list@zettai.net  Fri Dec 20 22:22:43 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:22:43 +0000
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
In-Reply-To: <20021221015441.GK25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <BA2948B3.15A45%list@zettai.net>

> From: Jamie Heilman <jamie@audible.transient.net>

>> 99% of the time, to talk about "what html Zope produces" is a fallacy,
>> because, as others have said, Zope produces very little html that the coder
>> can not change. I.E, the HTML that Zope produces is entirely in your hands
>> for all intents and purposes.
> 
> Both the <base> tag, and the Image.tag() method are examples of markup
> generated by Zope (which, yes, can be overridden, and that was the
> entire jist of my reply).  It may be 99% of people who are accusing
> Zope of generating bad markup don't know what they are talking about,
> but that doesn't make my examples any less valid.  My understanding of
> the markup generation policy is that any and all code which generates
> markup of its own should aim for standards compliance, and that which
> falls short should be classified as a bug and fixed.  You've pointed
> out another piece of the framework which needs help, dtml-tree, but I
> don't see any bugs filed against it, perhaps you should do so.

actually the base tag is xhtml-compliant:

here's the one that my site spits out, and i haven't hacked anything:

I think we're on the same page here. :)

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Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
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From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Sat Dec 21 08:48:11 2002
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:48:11 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] 2Gurus: DB layer and ZODB timeouts
In-Reply-To: <15875.27328.349086.153304@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <200212191513.18919.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <200212191938.58889.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <15875.27328.349086.153304@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200212211048.11527.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Friday 20 December 2002 21:08, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Oracle can reassign a new user for an existing connection.
> No need to open a new one...
Not exactly. AFAIK, this "reassign" means shutdown old user via a dozen o=
f a=20
triggers, drop old Oracle session, authorize new user, create him new Ora=
cle=20
session, pick out new permissions and register new user in the $_blah...=20
tables for SQL caching, monitoring etc. and much-much more...

--=20
Regards, Bogdan

31337 is a prime number, go figure...

From hazmat@objectrealms.net  Sat Dec 21 11:56:36 2002
From: hazmat@objectrealms.net (hazmat)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 03:56:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: object modification email
In-Reply-To: <3E034959.2030200@hostway.com>
References: <BA28B006.7765%muldrow@mac.com> <3E034959.2030200@hostway.com>
Message-ID: <au1kr5$ec0$1@main.gmane.org>

i would write a plugin index for the catalog, such that when an object 
is reindexed i apply my biz  rulz and send out emails if nesc. the other
option is to go with a full blow event channel (there are a couple out 
there), but i would still probably use a plugin index as basis for 
notifications for modifed content objects.

hth,

-p

AJ Coon wrote:
> Chris Muldrow wrote:
> 
>> On 12/20/02 11:01 AM, "AJ Coon" <aj@hostway.com> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Is there a lightweight Zope product that anyone knows of which:
>>>
>>> -  Tracks changes of objects in Zope
>>> - Can send email to notify individuals when changes occur to objects
>>> that are being tracked
>>>
>>> I think using versioning or CMF workflow  for what we need would be like
>>> using chainsaw to slice butter.   ;-)
>>>
>>> Ideas, anyone?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> aj
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> Unhelpful initial answer: I don't know of a product that does that.
>> Possibly helpful follow-up answer: Are you tracking a specific type of
>> object? 'Cause you could (just talking off the top of my head) go into the
>> manage_edit source and hook a sendmail method to it that checked against a
>> boolean property of the object. So:
>> if notify=='true':
>>    sendmail_method_somewhere_in_your_site()
>> - Chris
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>  
>>
> Yeah, we're doing this in CMF, so we probably should just modify the 
> Content types we are using for these objects to include the email 
> functionality.
> 
> Also, I've thought about doing this at the folder level.  So say if an 
> object was added or removed to/from a Folder object, an email would be 
> generated letting people know something was modified 'in' the folder.
> 
> The latter is probably what we would start with as a simple 
> customization to Folder objects, and the former would be adopted over 
> time. 
> aj
>

From elena.schulz@gmx.net  Sat Dec 21 13:36:42 2002
From: elena.schulz@gmx.net (Elena Schulz)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:36:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Tracebacks in 2.6.0
Message-ID: <00ba01c2a8f7$b8bedda0$fe78a8c0@PCA>

Hi Kevin,

I had the same problem and solved it like so:
go to the module: Zope_2_6\lib\python\ZPublisher\HTTPResponse.py

search for 'APPEND_TRACEBACKS = 0' and change it to '1' as the comment says.
There is a way to improve it further. You can get even the relevant bit of
the source-code in the concerned module by a nice extension written by
Anatoly Artamonov and called trace_bk.py. I am very happy with this and it
helps a lot of understanding the course of errors.

now I have my old 2.5. error-messages plus a bit more ;-).
You can even add <strong>Error error_tb: <dtml-var error_tb></strong><br> to
your standart_error_message to get even more information.

For that you have to change def _traceback in HTTPResponse.py like so:

def _traceback(self, t, v, tb, as_html=1):
 #### Start 2 lines added for trace_bk
        from Shared.trace_bk import new_tb
        return new_tb(t,v,tb, self.debug_mode)
 #### End: 2 lines added for trace_bk
        tb = format_exception(t, v, tb, as_html=as_html)
        return '\n'.join(tb)

-- hope you'll love it like me, Elena

From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Sat Dec 21 14:01:42 2002
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:01:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com> <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main> <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH> <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net> <004401c2a88a$777932e0$0100a8c0@AHAH> <20021221013617.GJ25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <00db01c2a8f9$87ed15a0$0100a8c0@AHAH>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Heilman" <jamie@audible.transient.net>
To: "danielle.d-avout" <danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards

> >   a.. Line 283, column 84: cannot generate system identifier for general
> > entity "origin_url"
>
> Oh.  Yeah sure thats because of the bare &.  Should be & like
> you've been saying, whatever generated the URI is broken, or its just
> a typo.  I gather from your first thread (and please, stop creating
> new threads by replying to already existing ones, its irritating)

sorry, I knew I could irritate and I hate insisting but I had the feeling
that I had to it to be read again

> you're concerned that URI attribute values generated by Plone aren't
> doing ampersand entity encoding correct.  And this evidently affects
> Zope too?  So my question to you is this, what Zope function is it
> that is automagically generating these bad URIs?  Figure that out and
> we can fix it.

I could n't find any origin_url in my local Zope Instance
but in http://www.zope.org/feedback_site_form/view_source
I could see <input type="hidden" name="origin_url" value="&dtml-origin_url;"
/>

It's difficult to me to investigate (I don't read fluently Python, to say
the less)

url = '%s?came_from=%s&retry=%s' % (
                    page.absolute_url(), quote(came_from), retry)

in CMFCore/CookieCrumbler.py  could it be an example?

> --
> Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
> "It's almost impossible to overestimate the unimportance of most things."
> -John Logue
 _______________________________________________
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From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Dec 21 13:59:27 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:59:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Interesting name space question
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEAMICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEAMICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15876.29631.707681.535843@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Carlson wrote at 2002-12-20 16:34 -0500:
 > I am curious if the following is possible in dtml...
 > 
 > I have a dtml-method named index_html.  It calls a dtml-method named
 > page_header.  Is it possible for the code in page_header to obtain the title
 > of the index_html method?
 > 
 > For example:
 > 
 > index_html: (Title set to "Home")
 >    <dtml-var page_header>
 > 
 > page_header:
 >    <dtml-var Title of calling dtml method>
 > 
 > I have been searching through the archives and such but since dtml-methods
 > look up variables in the containing namespace, I'm not sure if this is a
 > possibility.
In general, this is impossible (because "page_header" does not know
which object called it (unless the "security context stack" is analysed)).

In the special case, when "index_html" is called directly through the
Web (via "ZPublisher"), "index_html" is available as "REQUEST.PUBLISHED".

However, a better idea is probably to set a "parent_title" variable
in the calling context and use it in the called DTML method, when it is
defined.

Dieter

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 21 16:04:53 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:04:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Interesting name space question
In-Reply-To: <15876.29631.707681.535843@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECKEBCICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Thanks, Dieter.  I was under the impression this was near impossible because
of the nature of dtml methods.  I know this can be done with dtml documents
which call a dtml method, but was curious about this because one of my older
(whilst beginning to climb the learning curve) applications needs some work
and being able to hack this would have helped.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Dieter Maurer
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:59 AM
To: Kevin Carlson
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Interesting name space question

Kevin Carlson wrote at 2002-12-20 16:34 -0500:
 > I am curious if the following is possible in dtml...
 >
 > I have a dtml-method named index_html.  It calls a dtml-method named
 > page_header.  Is it possible for the code in page_header to obtain the
title
 > of the index_html method?
 >
 > For example:
 >
 > index_html: (Title set to "Home")
 >    <dtml-var page_header>
 >
 > page_header:
 >    <dtml-var Title of calling dtml method>
 >
 > I have been searching through the archives and such but since
dtml-methods
 > look up variables in the containing namespace, I'm not sure if this is a
 > possibility.
In general, this is impossible (because "page_header" does not know
which object called it (unless the "security context stack" is analysed)).

In the special case, when "index_html" is called directly through the
Web (via "ZPublisher"), "index_html" is available as "REQUEST.PUBLISHED".

However, a better idea is probably to set a "parent_title" variable
in the calling context and use it in the called DTML method, when it is
defined.

Dieter

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 21 16:12:59 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:12:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Tracebacks in 2.6.0
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c2a8f7$b8bedda0$fe78a8c0@PCA>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECGEBDICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Elena,

Thanks for the tip on HTTPResponse.py -- that will be great.  I added the
error_tb a while back, but as you found this just isn't the same.  Call me
nostalgic, but I sure miss my 2.5 error messages. :-)

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Elena
Schulz
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 8:37 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Tracebacks in 2.6.0

Hi Kevin,

I had the same problem and solved it like so:
go to the module: Zope_2_6\lib\python\ZPublisher\HTTPResponse.py

now I have my old 2.5. error-messages plus a bit more ;-).
You can even add <strong>Error error_tb: <dtml-var error_tb></strong><br> to
your standart_error_message to get even more information.

For that you have to change def _traceback in HTTPResponse.py like so:

-- hope you'll love it like me, Elena

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 21 16:23:28 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:23:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML
In-Reply-To: <15875.30283.794444.622964@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECMEBDICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

This turned out to be a problem in the updoc method, but I couldn't
immediately tell due to the somewhat different tracebacks in 2.6.  I added
<error_tb> to my standard_error page to get the traceback and solve the
problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Dieter Maurer
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Kevin Carlson
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Calling DTML

Kevin Carlson writes:
 > Forwarding control from a Python script a DTML method in Zope 2.5.1 used
to
 > work like this:
 >
 >    return _['updoc'](container, request)
I do not believe that this can work...

> Now I am getting a Key error on 'updoc' which is a DTML method in the
same
 > skinned folder as the script.
Seems that "updoc" cannot be reached by your DTML namespace.

How did you call the Python Script from the DTML object?

Dieter

From mackay_d@bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 21 17:14:20 2002
From: mackay_d@bellsouth.net (mackay_d@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:14:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Object propogation
Message-ID: <20021221171420.GCNM17665.imf21bis.bellsouth.net@[192.168.2.31]>

> 
> From: Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de>
> Date: 2002/12/20 Fri PM 01:58:27 EST
> To: mackay_d@bellsouth.net (David Mackay)
> CC: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Object propogation
> 
> David Mackay writes:
>  > Do you have any suggestions as to how to preserve the list of mybrains 
>  > objects so that I can access that, rather than re-executing the query?
> You cannot preserve the sequence of "mybrain" objects, but you
> can store their record ids and resolve the ids later into the objects
> by means of a catalog method.
> 
> For details, please read the "ZCatalog" section of
> 
>   <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>
> 
> It tells you the exact name of the record id and the name of the
> catalog method.
> 
> You are probably also interested in Pythons "list comprehension":
>     [x.record_id_ for x in catalog(...)]
> 
> 
> Dieter

Thanks, the way I was doing it was a bit inefficient.

> PS: Please stay on the list.

Sorry, I just hit reply without looking.

Dave

From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Sat Dec 21 19:38:54 2002
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:38:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Good books after 'The Zope Book' & 'Web App Dev + Content
 Mgmt'?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021221203638.00ae81f8@mail.club-internet.fr>

Hi,

I read both, and actually found the Zope Book a better introduction, 
especially the in-development online version.

The Zope Bible seems pretty good, but would someone recommend "Zope 
Developer's Handbook", "Zope Web Application Construction Kit", and "The 
Book of Zope"? The last one doesn't seem very good, though.

Thx
Fred.

From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Dec 21 21:50:43 2002
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:50:43 -0800
Subject: [Zope] conformance to W3C Recommendations and other standards
In-Reply-To: <00db01c2a8f9$87ed15a0$0100a8c0@AHAH>
References: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEFACFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com> <004601c2a6ff$798473b0$0201a8c0@main> <00e601c2a87b$c066c6c0$0100a8c0@AHAH> <20021220232223.GI25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net> <004401c2a88a$777932e0$0100a8c0@AHAH> <20021221013617.GJ25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net> <00db01c2a8f9$87ed15a0$0100a8c0@AHAH>
Message-ID: <20021221215043.GP25250@stink-foot.audible.transient.net>

danielle.d-avout wrote:
> 
> sorry, I knew I could irritate and I hate insisting but I had the feeling
> that I had to it to be read again

No, its fine (imo) that you reposted your complaint, its that you didn't
clean out the In-Reply-To or References headers when you started this
discussion off the WAI Complient Code thread.  That breaks threading.
 
> I could n't find any origin_url in my local Zope Instance
> but in http://www.zope.org/feedback_site_form/view_source
> I could see
> <input type="hidden" name="origin_url" value="&dtml-origin_url;" />

Actually this is correct and will generate valid html. (atleast in 2.6)
I located the problem, see below.

> url = '%s?came_from=%s&retry=%s' % (
>                     page.absolute_url(), quote(came_from), retry)
> 
> in CMFCore/CookieCrumbler.py  could it be an example?

This in and of itself is fine... its just going to return a URI, its
up to the author who uses that URI in the context of an attribute
value to do the correct escaping (in DTML anyway, TAL can be a bit
more intelligent).

The actual problem is visible in
http://www.zope.org/standard_html_footer/view_source if you look
closely.  The author wrote:
<A HREF="&dtml-BASE1;/feedback_site_form?whats_up=<dtml-var title_or_id url_quote>&origin_url=&dtml-absolute_url;">Feedback about Zope.org</A>

The bare & before origin_url is hardcoded.  This isn't Zope's fault.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ass."
                                                        -Frank Zappa

From rwielinga@hotmail.com  Sat Dec 21 22:55:58 2002
From: rwielinga@hotmail.com (Robert Wielinga)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:55:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Content mgt for non-technical people
Message-ID: <OE18MLLVuT5ZskHapuf0000de14@hotmail.com>

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I am very new to Zope, but am impressed about the way it enables you to =
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for non-technical people to add content to the site. Preferably, I would =
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possibly with some workflow, without them having the need to edit =
html/dtml documents. For example, a content editor is presented with a =
form for each content type, where he can enter the relevant data in =
plain text and when the form is submitted, the data is entered as Zope =
objects in the zope server.

Did I overlook some features in Zope or are there readily available =
modules that accomplish this? Do I have to build it myself?

Regards, Robert
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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Sat Dec 21 23:21:18 2002
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:21:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Content mgt for non-technical people
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE3295005431BBC@desi2>

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One word answer: Plone. http://plone.org <http://plone.org> .  A Zope/CMF
CMS realization/UI/add-on product - works (and works well) out of the box,
and a bit of tweaking, codeing, and some experimenting will get you much,
much more.  Has a well-thought-out UI design, and binary
installers/controller apps for several platforms.
 
There is also a plone-users mailing list that is very active.
 
Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Wielinga [mailto:rwielinga@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 2:56 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Content mgt for non-technical people

Hello,
 
I am very new to Zope, but am impressed about the way it enables you to
formalise site logic and the look and feel. However in the short time I've
been using Zope, it does not seem to be a very suitable environment for
non-technical people to add content to the site. Preferably, I would like
people to be able to create new or modify existing content items, possibly
with some workflow, without them having the need to edit html/dtml
documents. For example, a content editor is presented with a form for each
content type, where he can enter the relevant data in plain text and when
the form is submitted, the data is entered as Zope objects in the zope
server.
 
Did I overlook some features in Zope or are there readily available modules
that accomplish this? Do I have to build it myself?
 
Regards, Robert

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<HTML><HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

<META content="MSHTML 5.00.3504.2500" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=642091823-21122002>One 
word answer: Plone. <A href="http://plone.org">http://plone.org</A>.  A 
Zope/CMF CMS realization/UI/add-on product - works (and works well) out of the 
box, and a bit of tweaking, codeing, and some experimenting will get you much, 
much more</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=642091823-21122002>.  Has a well-thought-out UI design, and binary 
installers/controller apps for several platforms.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=642091823-21122002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=642091823-21122002>There 
is also a plone-users mailing list that is very active.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=642091823-21122002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=642091823-21122002>Sean</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Robert Wielinga 
  [mailto:rwielinga@hotmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 21, 2002 
  2:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B> zope@zope.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Zope] Content mgt for 
  non-technical people<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am very new to Zope, but am impressed about the 
  way it enables you to formalise site logic and the look and feel. However in 
  the short time I've been using Zope, it does not seem to be a very suitable 
  environment for non-technical people to add content to the site. Preferably, I 
  would like people to be able to create new or modify existing content items, 
  possibly with some workflow, without them having the need to edit html/dtml 
  documents. For example, a content editor is presented with a form for each 
  content type, where he can enter the relevant data in plain text and when 
  the form is submitted, the data is entered as Zope objects in the zope 
  server.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Did I overlook some features in Zope or are 
  there readily available modules that accomplish this? Do I have to build it 
  myself?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards, 
Robert</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Sun Dec 22 05:37:24 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 05:37:24 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Content mgt for non-technical people
In-Reply-To: <OE18MLLVuT5ZskHapuf0000de14@hotmail.com>
References: <OE18MLLVuT5ZskHapuf0000de14@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <62788635.1040535444@[192.168.1.2]>

--On 21 December 2002 23:55 +0100 Robert Wielinga <rwielinga@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> I am very new to Zope, but am impressed about the way it enables you to
> formalise site logic and the look and feel. However in the short time
> I've been using Zope, it does not seem to be a very suitable environment
> for non-technical people to add content to the site. Preferably, I would
> like people to be able to create new or modify existing content items,
> possibly with some workflow, without them having the need to edit
> html/dtml documents. For example, a content editor is presented with a
> form for each content type, where he can enter the relevant data in plain
> text and when the form is submitted, the data is entered as Zope objects
> in the zope server.
> Did I overlook some features in Zope or are there readily available
> modules that accomplish this? Do I have to build it myself?

Plone has been mentioned. Another option is easyPublihser
<http://www.easypublisher.com/> - you'll need a modest budget
if you want to use it for real. But downloading the evaluation
version will give you lots of ideas as to what might be possible
to build in Zope.

Paul

--
 The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK
   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/

From Dave_Lehman/Loewen.LOEWEN@loewen.com  Sun Dec 22 17:55:25 2002
From: Dave_Lehman/Loewen.LOEWEN@loewen.com (Dave_Lehman/Loewen.LOEWEN@loewen.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:55:25 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: PIL error: decoder jpeg not available
Message-ID: <OF2F07F209.3C38EC9D-ON86256C97.00627554-86256C97.00627575@loewen.com>

--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, "Lennart Regebro" <lennart@r...> wrote:

> Have you read http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope/ ?

Yes, I have read this. I don't think I really know what i'm looking for in
step 2, which is why I believe I can't really accomplish step 3.

If I query RPM, it tells me I already have "libjpeg.so.6" installed. I this
the same as the jpeglib described in step 2? If not, where would I find
"jpeglib"? I believe one of the readme's I read said that the jpeg libs
that come standard with RedHat would be fine (I have RH 7.3).

So I believe if I understand where me jpeg libs are in step 2, I can point
at them when I make my imaging lib in step 3, and then everything should be
fine, right?

Can anyone offer a suggestion?

--dave

> From: <dave@l...>
> > I'm desperately trying to get PIL going under Zope, so I can run the
> > Photo and Photo Folder products.
>
> Have you read http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope/ ?
>
> >
> > Everything seems to be working fine as long as I stick to .gif
> > images-- I can create a photo folder, add photo docs, pregenerate
> > thumbnails, etc.
> >
> > However, it breaks when I try to use a .jpg image. When I try to
> > create a photo doc with a .jpg, I get the following error:
> >
> >      *  Module PIL.Image, line 255, in _getdecoder
> >      IOError: decoder jpeg not available
> >
> > OK, so i've searched all the lists I can find, and it seems as if i
> > don't have JPEG support compiled into PIL.
> >
> > If I go to /var/zope/lib/python2.1/site-packages/PIL and run "ldd
> > _imaging.so", I get:
> >
> >      libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x42000000)
> >      /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
> >
> > I believe I should have a line in there like "libjpeg.so.6 =>
> > /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.6". But I don't. So I believe this means that I
> > need to recompile the PIL libraries? I went back to my PIL /libImaging
> > folder and tried manually editing the ImConfig.h file. I uncommented
> > the line
> >
> >      /* Define if you have the IJG jpeg library (-ljpeg).  */
> >      #undef HAVE_LIBJPEG */
> >
> > then re-run make, but the new "_imaging.so" still doesn't seem to be
> > linked to libjpeg.so.6.
> >
> > I think i'm close, but I can't quite get there. How do I recompile PIL
> > with JPG support? Sorry for being an idiot here, but can someone help
> > drag me the last 10 feet to victory?
> >
> > --dave
>
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From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Dec 22 18:07:42 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 19:07:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing DOM nodes from python: how?
In-Reply-To: <20011222114930742547.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149AA02@email1.mitretek.org>
 <20011222114930742547.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <15877.65390.793504.124344@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Catonano wrote at 2001-12-22 11:49 +0100:
 > My idea is that I have 2 alternative ways:
 > 
 > 1)  add a field property to each file and fill it with the code, then 
 > adding an index to my ZCatalog. Boring, error prone and time consuming.
 > 
 > 2) ask my collagues to inclue the codes in the html files and get Zope 
 > access and index that values.
Python comes with modules to process and analyse HTML (and
other structured markup).

See the Python library reference, look for "htmllib".

Parsing HTML/SGML/XML in Python is quite expensive.
Do only as much processing as is necessary.

When you use these Python modules, you must do it either in
an External Method (or other filesystem based code) or
you must provide security declarations that it is safe to use
these modules from Python Scripts (the "Readme" tab of
the "Python Scripts" product tells you more).

Dieter

From lennart@regebro.nu  Sun Dec 22 18:34:32 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 19:34:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: PIL error: decoder jpeg not available
References: <OF2F07F209.3C38EC9D-ON86256C97.00627554-86256C97.00627575@loewen.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c2a9e8$c6d3c7b0$3fcc96c1@Xochiquetzal>

From: <Dave_Lehman/Loewen.LOEWEN@loewen.com>
> If I query RPM, it tells me I already have "libjpeg.so.6" installed. I
this
> the same as the jpeglib described in step 2?

Yes.

> So I believe if I understand where me jpeg libs are in step 2, I can point
> at them when I make my imaging lib in step 3, and then everything should
be
> fine, right?

Yes.

From chrism@zope.com  Sun Dec 22 23:51:54 2002
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:51:54 -0500
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>

Hi,

Shane Hathaway's VerboseSecurity product is helpful in making this sort
of thing much less mysterious:

http://hathaway.freezope.org/Software/VerboseSecurity

HTH,

- C

On Sun, 2001-12-23 at 18:46, Catonano wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm tring to execute this script:
> 
> lista = []
> folder = container.indice2() #indice2 is a ZCatalog
> for file in folder:
>  if not file.hasProperty('codice'):
>   lista.append(file.id)
>   attributes=getattr(folder, file)
>   attributes.manage_addProperty('codice', 'inserted yet', 'string') 
> return lista
> 
> I borrowed the idea from the /Examples/GuestBook/addEntry  script
> 
> Zope prompts me for a user name and passwd, I type my usual account 
> data (I'm the only user and I think I have full privileges) and BAM!
> 
> Zope Error
> 
> Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
> 
> Error Type: Unauthorized
> Error Value: You are not allowed to access in this context
> 
> Troubleshooting Suggestions
> 
>     * The URL may be incorrect.
>     * The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
>     * A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an 
> error.
> 
> For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML 
> source for this page.
> 
> If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for 
> your patience.
> 
> I tried to give the script all the proxy roles I could
> I opened Control Panel/acl_users and gave manage property permission to 
> managers and owners (I'm a manager user): NOTHING!
> 
> Please: what's going on?
> 
> Thanks anybody who will help me
> Bye
> Catonano
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Sat Dec 21 00:55:47 2002
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (Catonano)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 01:55:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20021221015547131574.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>

Chris,

On 22 Dec 2002 18:51:54 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Shane Hathaway's VerboseSecurity product is helpful in making this sort
> of thing much less mysterious:
> 
> http://hathaway.freezope.org/Software/VerboseSecurity

Downloaded and frantically found the products folder, I get this 
message from the terminal, when launching zope:

2002-12-21T00:50:42 INFO(0) VerboseSecurity Unable to patch 
PermissionRole. Put ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON in the environment to 
enable display of permission names in Unauthorized exceptions.

Since I'm a lazy old style Mac user I can't deal with unix enviroinment 
variables.

Well this is not the right place for this but since we're at it, would 
you suggest me a way to put this setting on?

Thanks so much (what's the smiley for the gratitude?)
Catonano

From chrism@zope.com  Mon Dec 23 02:41:57 2002
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 22 Dec 2002 21:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <20021221015547131574.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>
 <20021221015547131574.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <1040611317.1975.86.camel@james>

You can start Zope like so:

./start ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON

.. to get the desired effect...

If you can't get it going that way, the canonical way to set environment
varibles in a UNIX environment under the Bourne shell and likenesses:

export ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON

then...

./start

HTH,

- C

On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 19:55, Catonano wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> On 22 Dec 2002 18:51:54 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Shane Hathaway's VerboseSecurity product is helpful in making this sort
> > of thing much less mysterious:
> > 
> > http://hathaway.freezope.org/Software/VerboseSecurity
> 
> Downloaded and frantically found the products folder, I get this 
> message from the terminal, when launching zope:
> 
> 2002-12-21T00:50:42 INFO(0) VerboseSecurity Unable to patch 
> PermissionRole. Put ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON in the environment to 
> enable display of permission names in Unauthorized exceptions.
> 
> Since I'm a lazy old style Mac user I can't deal with unix enviroinment 
> variables.
> 
> Well this is not the right place for this but since we're at it, would 
> you suggest me a way to put this setting on?
> 
> Thanks so much (what's the smiley for the gratitude?)
> Catonano
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

From jbgrove@highlights-corp.com  Mon Dec 23 06:00:49 2002
From: jbgrove@highlights-corp.com (jbgrove@highlights-corp.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 01:00:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Jamie B Grove/HFC/HFC_Corp is out of the office.
Message-ID: <OF62D921C2.F9CDE424-ON85256C98.002108E5@highlights.com>

I will be out of the office starting  12/20/2002 and will not return until
12/30/2002.

In the event of problems with Highlights.com, please contact Matt Everard
at ATGi (614-523-1135) or matt@atgi.com (be sure to copy me on emails)

For problems with the RackSpace (Kids Site) hosting environment, please
contact Cindy Hite at 614-487-2684 or clhite@highlights-corp.com

From jan@curpheymedia.com  Mon Dec 23 06:28:12 2002
From: jan@curpheymedia.com (Jan Smith)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:28:12 +1100
Subject: [Zope] A Zope transglobal Christmas experience
Message-ID: <GEEGJBEAOOJNMLLBHCHICEEDCOAA.jan@curpheymedia.com>

Hi All

Over the past few weeks a Silva/Zope Christmas website has been built
around the clock and around the globe with author Ian Keldoulis in New
York, Kit Blake of Infrae in Rotterdam, and myself the Zope Template
Designer in Melbourne.  Due to time differences work was done while we each
slept on our respective continents. It meant
waking up to find an inbox with questions answered or new things added to
the site.  Building this site was great fun.

Thanks to ZPT's a Silva website can have any look required. It's beneath
the hood where Silva works its magic. WHAT IS SILVA?
More information and free download from:
http://www.infrae.com/products/silva

Author Ian Keldoulis wanted to have a web site where he could add additional
episodes without fussing with html.  Ian writes, researches and edits at the
New York Times, and has been involved in new media projects for many years.

This Christmas site is aimed at people who want a few minutes escapism.
Check out
Santa's misadventures on Wall St at http://www.toyzondemand.com/

cheers

Jan Smith

From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Mon Dec 23 08:52:54 2002
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry Florac)
Date: 23 Dec 2002 09:52:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope number of threads
Message-ID: <1040633575.6053.20.camel@m22241>

Hi,

I didn't found any answer to this probably simple question : what's the
best way to define a "good" number of threads for Zope ?
Is the default number defined in z2.py (4) the best for every situation,
or does this number have to be increased when working with sites with a
high volume of transactions ??

Thanks for any help...

Thierry

-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net

From stsolakos@patras.atmel.com  Mon Dec 23 10:15:42 2002
From: stsolakos@patras.atmel.com (Stavros Tsolakos)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:15:42 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Newbie needs suggestion
References: <161700000.1040303920@[10.2.1.1]>
Message-ID: <3E06E24E.1020909@patras.atmel.com>

Hi list.

I am a Zope newbie. I am a C++/Python programmer and web programming is 
completely new to me. I want to create a web based mail client, where 
each logged in user would have his own folders, but there would also be 
some kind of global folders, where everybody would place messages in it 
so that they can be viewed by all users. My problem is the simplest and 
the most common newbie-oriented problem: And now? Where am I supposed to 
start from?  Thank you all,, in advance.

Regards,
Stavros

From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Mon Dec 23 10:33:54 2002
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:33:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Newbie needs suggestion
In-Reply-To: <3E06E24E.1020909@patras.atmel.com>
References: <161700000.1040303920@[10.2.1.1]> <3E06E24E.1020909@patras.atmel.com>
Message-ID: <3E06E692.8020705@uni-bielefeld.de>

Stavros Tsolakos wrote:
> Hi list.
> 
> I am a Zope newbie. I am a C++/Python programmer and web programming is 
> completely new to me. I want to create a web based mail client, where 
> each logged in user would have his own folders, but there would also be 
> some kind of global folders, where everybody would place messages in it 
> so that they can be viewed by all users. My problem is the simplest and 
> the most common newbie-oriented problem: And now? Where am I supposed to 
> start from?  Thank you all,, in advance.

Read the ZopeBook (two times!!!), work through the tutorials/examples 
and have a look at some products. Then read the ZopeDevelopersGuide.

"ZopeBook":http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition

"DevelopersGuide":http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html

/mj

From borge@tsar.no  Mon Dec 23 12:22:35 2002
From: borge@tsar.no (borge@tsar.no)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:22:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] The "undo" posibility and the size of data.fs
Message-ID: <1040646155.3e07000bd6653@epost.kvalito.no>

Hei

we have with zope developed a multiple choice test
which employees can access over the internet. This
works fine. However, each time an employee submits
an answer, the size of the file data.fs increases
much more than we would expect(3kB). The answer is
stored on the emlpoyee object.

We now do wonder if zope's "undo" possibility is an
explanation to this large increase in data.fs; this
since zope holds the states inbetween the transactions
(four transactions for each question).If it is this
undo possibility that causes the large increase in
data.fs, we would like to know if it is possible to
get around this "undo" tracking af zope. If it is not,
we would also very much like to know how we could
find out what other reason there is to the large
increase in data.fs. I have exported the employee
object to xml to see what is there stored, but all
there looks normal.

Best wishes and kind regards from

Børge Kjeldstad

From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Mon Dec 23 12:39:11 2002
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:39:11 +0000
Subject: [Zope] The "undo" posibility and the size of data.fs
In-Reply-To: <1040646155.3e07000bd6653@epost.kvalito.no>
References: <1040646155.3e07000bd6653@epost.kvalito.no>
Message-ID: <200212231239.11595.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Monday 23 December 2002 12:22 pm, borge@tsar.no wrote:

> We now do wonder if zope's "undo" possibility is an
> explanation to this large increase in data.fs; this
> since zope holds the states inbetween the transactions
> (four transactions for each question).

(3k per question)/(4 transactions per question) =3D 800 bytes per transac=
tion.

This is normal if each transaction modifies your emloyee object, and each=
=20
employee is roughly 800 bytes in size.

You could use sessions to combine this into one transaction - storing=20
intermediate changes in a volatile session object. This would give you a=20
factor of 4 space saving.

> If it is this
> undo possibility that causes the large increase in
> data.fs

Thats just the way FileStorage works. Yes, it is used to implement undo.

> we would like to know if it is possible to
> get around this "undo" tracking af zope.

There are some storages that dont support undo, but nothing that is=20
production-ready :-(

Your best option is to pack regularly using cron.

--=20
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Dec 23 14:39:19 2002
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:39:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Accessing DOM nodes from python: how?
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149AA5C@email1.mitretek.org>

[Catonano]=20
> We have a folder with a bunch of html files in it.
>=20
> What I want to do is to make a drop down menu filled with some values.
>=20
> Each one of these values individuates one of the files in the folder.
>=20
> If I, as user, choose a code from the drop down menu, it=20
> should take me=20
> to the associated file (web page, that is).
>=20
> The files are not dinamically produced by Zope, they are simple=20
> statical html files made by some collagues of mine with=20
> DreamWeaver and=20
> uploaded via ftp into my folder.
>=20

So the files are located in the file system and not in the Zope
database.  I would search the archives for the "localFS" product, and
see how to get it to give you a list of the file names it controls.
Then you can refer to them by title.

> I could ask my collagues to include the code in every page=20
> (file) in a=20
> html-compliant shape, so Zope could acces that code and=20
> CATALOGUE those=20
> pages indexing that code, so I could try with a multiple choiche menu.
>=20
> Is it clearer?
>=20

Do you mean that each file is supposed to be tagged with some code, and
that the file name is not adequate for listing in a menu?

Seems like you have three types of things you can do to discover the
code value:

1) Put the code into the filename and use string processing to extract
it.  This requires the the people producing the file name the file
correctly.

2) Put the code into the html file itself.  The best place for this
would be a <meta> element.  This requires you to extract the code value
from the HTML file as you started out asking about.  It also requires
the people generating the file to insert the code value correctly.
This approach is the most markup-language like approach.

If you put it into a META element, you ought to be able to retrieve it
using a regular expression.  That would probably be the simplest thing
to do.  You would probably do that using a python external method.

3) Compute the right code value usng some algorithm.  I have no idea if
that would be possible for your files or not.  If it is possible, you
would not depend on the file creator to handle the code properly.

Once you know what the code value is, you want to use it somehow.  That
is the subject of your next questions, I take it -

> My idea is that I have 2 alternative ways:
>=20
> 1)  add a field property to each file and fill it with the code, then=20
> adding an index to my ZCatalog. Boring, error prone and time=20
> consuming.
>=20
> 2) ask my collagues to inclue the codes in the html files and=20
> get Zope=20
> access and index that values.
>=20

Another approach would be to create a DTML method that returns a
dictionary of code file identifiers keyed by the codes.  You would use
that dictionary when you build the menu.  I have never done this
programatically but it ought to be possible.  Otherwise, you could write
an external method to do the same thing by reading a file that contains
the dictionary in text form (you create the dictionary by using eval()).

When you receive a new file (or periodically using a scheduled task) you
would look through the directory and build a new version of the
dictionary. It ought to be easy.

Cheers,

Tom P

From dirk.collins@earthlink.net  Mon Dec 23 15:36:09 2002
From: dirk.collins@earthlink.net (Dirk Collins)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 10:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZPT RestrictedTraverse Bug??! ref: priveleges problem???
Message-ID: <3E072D69.1050002@earthlink.net>

I have been setting my new Zope site to allow anonymous visitors to
burrow down till they hit a restricted area, namely the 30mm CD
Resources page. Right above that is the 30mm-Floorplans folder.
Anonymous users are being required by zope to login at the
30mm-Floorplans folder even though I didn't specifically setup the
30mm-Floorplans folder as a controlled area. Canceling the login
request results in this Zope error for anonymous users only!

/<li>  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 346, in
restrictedTraverse<br />

__traceback_info__: {'path': ['title'], 'TraversalRequestNameStack':
[]}</li>

</ul>Unauthorized: You are not allowed to access title in this
context </p> -->/

Everyone else can gain access to the 30mm-Floorplans Folder so long as
they login. After spending some time making sure the folder and file
permissions were good from the Zope root folder on down to the
30mm-Floorplan folder, I finally got the bright idea to check Google
using the keywords in the error message and found my problem straight
away... Reference URL--

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-coders/2002-September/002080.html

I'm just checking to see if anyone happens to have any updated
information on this bug, or if a workaround already exists to allow
anonymous users access to all the areas that role is setup for.

With Regards,
Dirk

From mikhail@freehand.ru  Mon Dec 23 15:37:47 2002
From: mikhail@freehand.ru (Mikhail)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:37:47 +0300
Subject: [Zope] ZPT Print Theme
Message-ID: <au7bb9$4ko$1@main.gmane.org>

Zope.org site have a print version with light design.

How I can make "print version" like on Zope.org for my site on ZPT if all 
my Page Tamplates use macros from 'main_template' Page Template. "Print" 
attribute will be getted from GET part of REQUEST:
  request.print == 'on'.

-- 
Mikhail 'Xen' Kashkin

From dmidd@chartermi.net  Mon Dec 23 16:53:19 2002
From: dmidd@chartermi.net (Daryl Middleton)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:53:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Content Management
Message-ID: <HMEPKNDKKNGBFBOPPLPMAEMACBAA.dmidd@chartermi.net>

I need to be able to have many people collaborate on a project where they
could send me text data delivered to a specific file that is assigned
according to their geographic area.  From that text file I will then utilize
a python script to organize the text into XML for a book type publication.
I am not sure if I should just collect the data in Zope, and then place it
in Apache where scripts could manipulate the text for XML.  I know that
Python and Apache work very well for the XML conversion and XSLT.  My main
question is how would I design a form in Zope that would deliver the text
file to that specific file listed above. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks

From jmeile@hotmail.com  Mon Dec 23 17:56:56 2002
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:56:56 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Aiieee! 2365 exited with error code: 25
Message-ID: <001301c2aab2$dc9443c0$38c81fc8@f5b4t7>

Hi,

I was having this error message and found that it's caused by a
2Gb-storage-limit that zope has. I had to delete some data to
reduce the size of my ZopeDB. Now it works. I have the following
questions regarding this problem:

1) Does the current zope stable version (2.6.0) have the same
problem?

2) Is there any patch to solve it in Zope 2.5.1 and later?

3) If the answer to the first question is "yes", what is the easiest
alternative to store this data externally: LocalFS or relational
databases? Are there other alternatives? Which one
does zope.org use? Is it easy to convine this alternatives
with the portal_catalog that it's included with CMF.

Thanks in advanced and merry xmas to everybody,
Josef.

From muldrow@mac.com  Mon Dec 23 20:00:14 2002
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:00:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Aiieee! 2365 exited with error code: 25
In-Reply-To: <001301c2aab2$dc9443c0$38c81fc8@f5b4t7>
Message-ID: <BA2CD57E.78C3%muldrow@mac.com>

On 12/23/02 12:56 PM, "Josef Meile" <jmeile@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I was having this error message and found that it's caused by a
> 2Gb-storage-limit that zope has. I had to delete some data to
> reduce the size of my ZopeDB. Now it works. I have the following
> questions regarding this problem:
> 
> 1) Does the current zope stable version (2.6.0) have the same
> problem?
> 
> 2) Is there any patch to solve it in Zope 2.5.1 and later?
> 
> 3) If the answer to the first question is "yes", what is the easiest
> alternative to store this data externally: LocalFS or relational
> databases? Are there other alternatives? Which one
> does zope.org use? Is it easy to convine this alternatives
> with the portal_catalog that it's included with CMF.
> 
> Thanks in advanced and merry xmas to everybody,
> Josef.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
I could be mistaken, but I think the 2-gig problem is a Python problem, not
a Zope problem. You'll need your system to have large-file support (newer
Liinux versions like RedHat build with large file support as a default--or
at least ours did!!) and you'll need to compile python with large file
support.

From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Mon Dec 23 21:02:54 2002
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:02:54 -0500
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9701662@PROSERV>

Hi,

I have a small problem. In the code below I can display the information but
I would like to create a link on of the one variables. A link is established
but each link hold the last variable value in it. Is there a simple way to
do this?? Thanks in advance.

<dtml-in lookup_nonc_for_part_number>
<dtml-unless close_out_date>
 <tr>    
    <td>
           <font color="#0000FF" size="-1"><dtml-var date_originated>
       </td>
    <td>   
         <dtml-call "REQUEST.SESSION.set('nc_report_no', nc_report_no)">
         <font color="#0000FF" size="-1"><a
href="/nonconformity_report/nonc_view/view_nonc_form2" target="_blank">
<dtml-var nc_report_no></a>
</td>
<td>       
	   <font color="#0000FF" size="-1"><dtml-var originator>
	</td>
    <td>       
	   <font color="#FF0000" size="-1"><dtml-var supplier_customer>
	</td>
    <td>       
	   <font color="#0000FF" size="-1"><dtml-var
source_of_nonconformity>
	</td>
</tr>
</dtml-unless>
</dtml-in>

Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com

From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Sat Dec 21 21:28:00 2002
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (Catonano)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:28:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <1040611317.1975.86.camel@james>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>
 <20021221015547131574.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040611317.1975.86.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20021221222800532918.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>

Chris,

On 22 Dec 2002 21:41:57 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> You can start Zope like so:
> 
> ./start ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON
> 
> .. to get the desired effect...

thanks. ;)

I tried and I'm not getting error messages related to permissions 
anymore.

It seems that the c module I replaced with your instructions were more 
restrictive.
I'd love to understand a little more about this stuff.

Thanks
Bye
Catonano

From working4aliving@hotmail.com  Mon Dec 23 21:33:05 2002
From: working4aliving@hotmail.com (working4aliving)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:33:05 -0500
Subject: [Zope] OT: Happy Holidays
Message-ID: <BAY1-DAV38uOUfwFbq00000a467@hotmail.com>

I'd like to thank everyone on the list for always being there.  I'd like
especially to thank those who are regular ZODS (zope gods?), you know who
you are.  This is group is why this product works. (Well, you know what I
mean).

Have a merry christmas and may we all have a happy new year.

Cheers.

Bob

From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Sat Dec 21 21:43:49 2002
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (Catonano)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:43:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing DOM nodes from python: how?
In-Reply-To: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149AA5C@email1.mitretek.org>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149AA5C@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <20021221224349847995.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>

Tom,

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:39:19 -0500, Passin, Tom wrote: 
> So the files are located in the file system and not in the Zope
> database.  I would search the archives for the "localFS" product, and
> see how to get it to give you a list of the file names it controls.
> Then you can refer to them by title.

Well, the files were intended to sit in file system folder but in order 
to achieve my goals I was to move them to a Zope folder. I didn't 
specify, sorry. 
 
> Do you mean that each file is supposed to be tagged with some code, and
> that the file name is not adequate for listing in a menu?

Yes , this is exactly what I meant.

> Seems like you have three types of things you can do to discover the
> code value:
> 
> 1) ...
> 
> 2) Put the code into the html file itself.  The best place for this
> would be a <meta> element.  This requires you to extract the code value
> from the HTML file as you started out asking about.  It also requires
> the people generating the file to insert the code value correctly.
> This approach is the most markup-language like approach.

Yes ! This was my idea. So I didn't express it so bad, after all. ;-)
Thanks for the comprehension effort you're doing, you know, I'm doing 
an effort to write in English too and sometimes I don't have clear what 
I want to do myself !! ;)

> If you put it into a META element, you ought to be able to retrieve it
> using a regular expression.  That would probably be the simplest thing
> to do.  You would probably do that using a python external method.
> 
> 3) Compute the right code value usng some algorithm.  ...
>
> Once you know what the code value is, you want to use it somehow.  That
> is the subject of your next questions, I take it -
> 
>>  My idea is that I have 2 alternative ways:
>>  
>>  1)  add a field property to each file and fill it with the code, then 
>>  adding an index to my ZCatalog. Boring, error prone and time 
>>  consuming.
>>  
>>  2) ask my collagues to inclue the codes in the html files and 
>>  get Zope 
>>  access and index that values.
>>  
> 
> Another approach would be to create a DTML method that returns a
> dictionary of code file identifiers keyed by the codes.  You would use
> that dictionary when you build the menu.  I have never done this
> programatically but it ought to be possible.  Otherwise, you could write
> an external method to do the same thing by reading a file that contains
> the dictionary in text form (you create the dictionary by using eval()).
> 
> When you receive a new file (or periodically using a scheduled task) you
> would look through the directory and build a new version of the
> dictionary. It ought to be easy.

Tom I really have to thank you for your suggestions. I didn't even know 
about the existence of these "dictionaries"

Now the problem became obsolete since I decided for a different 
strategy:

1) I'm going to add a property to all my files. I already managed to 
write a python script that successfully does this ;)  This made me 
discover the niceties of python. The semantical use of identation is 
really smart, I always hated the {} parenteses.
I also learned to read documentation to discover WHAT a function 
returns (tuples, in my case) and I learned to access tuples ! Nice!

2) I'm going to prepare a web page with a form to fill with the codes 
associate to the files.
So my collages can help me in the filling work ! I'm going to put this 
form online !!!

3) Setting a ZCatalog in order to show a drop down menu containing the 
codes. Choosing a code, the user will be pointed to the associated file.

I want to do so because gradually I want to move to a fully dinamical 
html creation process, no more DreamWeaver.

So starting to get my collagues used to introduce information in Zope 
is not bad.

Also I'm not forced to recur to external stuff, this way, I still can't 
deal with external stuff.
I tried to put an xml product in my products folder but I got some 
error messages from the consolle and I can't deal with them.

So what to add? Thanks so much for your help. really.

Hear you soon
Bye
Catonano

From chrism@zope.com  Mon Dec 23 22:01:21 2002
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 23 Dec 2002 17:01:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <20021221222800532918.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>
 <20021221015547131574.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040611317.1975.86.camel@james>
 <20021221222800532918.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <1040680881.2360.51.camel@james>

The two modules should be completely equivalent.  If they are not (if it
continues to fail without ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON), it's
unfortunately a bug.  If you can isolate the issue, it might be worth
entering a Collector issue with its details at
http://collector.zope.org/Zope.

Thanks!

- C

On Sat, 2002-12-21 at 16:28, Catonano wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> On 22 Dec 2002 21:41:57 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > You can start Zope like so:
> > 
> > ./start ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON
> > 
> > .. to get the desired effect...
> 
> thanks. ;)
> 
> I tried and I'm not getting error messages related to permissions 
> anymore.
> 
> It seems that the c module I replaced with your instructions were more 
> restrictive.
> I'd love to understand a little more about this stuff.
> 
> Thanks
> Bye
> Catonano
> 
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From ed@leafe.com  Mon Dec 23 22:23:51 2002
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:23:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <200212171403.42475.wilson@visi.com>
Message-ID: <36B5ED10-16C5-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 03:03  PM, Tim Wilson wrote:

>> I'm fairly new to Zope, and am looking for a Product to use on my site
>> for displaying photos. These are mostly personal photos, so I don't
>> have any special needs; just something that will display an index and
>> basic navigation.
>
> Try the Photo product. http://www.zope.org/Members/rbickers/Photo

OK, I've followed the directions, and installed PIL. The installation 
went without incident, but when I try to view a Photo/PhotoFolder, I 
get the error message"

Error Type: NameError
Error Value: global name 'PIL' is not defined

I've read what I can on the web and in the docs, and it seems that the 
Python version running Zope can't access PIL. What's the trick to get 
PIL available to Zope's Python?

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  http://foxcentral.net

From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Sat Dec 21 22:54:31 2002
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (Catonano)
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:54:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <1040680881.2360.51.camel@james>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040601115.1906.67.camel@james>
 <20021221015547131574.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040611317.1975.86.camel@james>
 <20021221222800532918.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
 <1040680881.2360.51.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20021221235431863774.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>

On 23 Dec 2002 17:01:21 -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> The two modules should be completely equivalent.  If they are not (if it
> continues to fail without ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON), it's
> unfortunately a bug.  If you can isolate the issue, it might be worth
> entering a Collector issue with its details at
> http://collector.zope.org/Zope.
> 
> Thanks!

Chris, you're welcome.

I tried to execute that script without that setting and it worked. So, 
we can exclude the bug and the evidence is that it was that I was 
scripting something wrong.

Now I corrected the scrip and obviously I can't recuperate the error 
condition :-(

Well, as I said, I'd LOVE to understand some more about this stuff.

Thanks anyhow.
Bye
Catonano

From pskipworth@touchcorp.com  Mon Dec 23 23:02:29 2002
From: pskipworth@touchcorp.com (pskipworth@touchcorp.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:02:29 +1100
Subject: [Zope] ZPT Print Theme
Message-ID: <H00000fd004d3761.1040684549.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>

Here's how I do it...

Here's the first line of my index_html...

'getTemplate' is a python-script, consisting of...

request = container.REQUEST

if request.has_key('pp'):
	    return context.standard_print_template.macros['master']
	else:
	    return context.standard_template.macros['master']

Hope this helps!

-----Original Message-----
From: xen_ua@mail.ru [mailto:xen_ua@mail.ru]
Sent: Tuesday, 24 December 2002 2:38 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] ZPT Print Theme

Zope.org site have a print version with light design.

How I can make "print version" like on Zope.org for my site on ZPT if 
all 
my Page Tamplates use macros from 'main_template' Page Template. "Print"

attribute will be getted from GET part of REQUEST:
  request.print == 'on'.

-- 
Mikhail 'Xen' Kashkin

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From Murphy@members.netsolution-net.de  Mon Dec 23 23:09:47 2002
From: Murphy@members.netsolution-net.de (Martin Gebert)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 00:09:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <36B5ED10-16C5-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
References: <36B5ED10-16C5-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <3E0797BB.4090809@members.netsolution-net.de>

Ed Leafe schrieb:

>     OK, I've followed the directions, and installed PIL. The 
> installation went without incident, but when I try to view a 
> Photo/PhotoFolder, I get the error message"
>
>  Error Type: NameError
> Error Value: global name 'PIL' is not defined
>
>     I've read what I can on the web and in the docs, and it seems that 
> the Python version running Zope can't access PIL. What's the trick to 
> get PIL available to Zope's Python?
>
Just two quite obvious questions:

- Did you install PIL in the Python version your Zope uses?
- Can you import PIL from the console of that version?

If not, check why and/or post the errors here...

Martin

From pskipworth@touchcorp.com  Mon Dec 23 23:12:05 2002
From: pskipworth@touchcorp.com (pskipworth@touchcorp.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:12:05 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Content Management
Message-ID: <H00000fd004d3768.1040685125.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>

Why not just have the script ask for their location from a dropdown list 
(let's assume it's US State, for example...), and have it submit to an 
External Method.

This method could then simply...

filename = "/my/data/directory/" + REQUEST['state']
file = open (filename, 'a')
file.write[whatever]
file.write[whatever]
file.write[whatever]
file.write[whatever]
file.close()

-----Original Message-----
From: dmidd@chartermi.net [mailto:dmidd@chartermi.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 24 December 2002 3:53 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Content Management

I need to be able to have many people collaborate on a project where 
they
could send me text data delivered to a specific file that is assigned
according to their geographic area.  From that text file I will then 
utilize
a python script to organize the text into XML for a book type 
publication.
I am not sure if I should just collect the data in Zope, and then place 
it
in Apache where scripts could manipulate the text for XML.  I know that
Python and Apache work very well for the XML conversion and XSLT.  My 
main
question is how would I design a form in Zope that would deliver the 
text
file to that specific file listed above. Any suggestions would be 
helpful.
Thanks

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From Bryan@capitanoweb.com  Mon Dec 23 23:34:08 2002
From: Bryan@capitanoweb.com (Bryan Capitano)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:34:08 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Content Management
In-Reply-To: <HMEPKNDKKNGBFBOPPLPMAEMACBAA.dmidd@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENEEIGCFAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>

Zope's DocumentLibrary product might be useful for this project. It could
provide an organizing principle for at least part of your problem.

(http://www.zope.org/Members/Kaivo/DocumentLibrary)

Bryan

Bryan R. Capitano
President,
CAPITANO WEb CONSULTING
Tel: 541-344-0747
Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com
URL: http://www.capitanoweb.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Daryl
> Middleton
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:53 AM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] Content Management
>
>
> I need to be able to have many people collaborate on a project where they
> could send me text data delivered to a specific file that is assigned
> according to their geographic area.  From that text file I will
> then utilize
> a python script to organize the text into XML for a book type publication.
> I am not sure if I should just collect the data in Zope, and then place it
> in Apache where scripts could manipulate the text for XML.  I know that
> Python and Apache work very well for the XML conversion and XSLT.  My main
> question is how would I design a form in Zope that would deliver the text
> file to that specific file listed above. Any suggestions would be helpful.
> Thanks
>
>
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From ed@leafe.com  Tue Dec 24 00:08:09 2002
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:08:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E0797BB.4090809@members.netsolution-net.de>
Message-ID: <C908E142-16D3-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 06:09  PM, Martin Gebert wrote:

> Just two quite obvious questions:
>
> - Did you install PIL in the Python version your Zope uses?

I guess not, since it doesn't seem to be working. I figured that's 
what I did wrong; I just don't know how to tell PIL to install itself 
in a particular place. And yes, I read the docs on the web and in the 
source, I just must have missed it.

> - Can you import PIL from the console of that version?

Not if I run [zopedir]/bin/python. If I run the /usr/bin/python 
instead, I can import w/o problem.

> If not, check why and/or post the errors here...

[root@marge 2-6-0]# ./bin/python
Python 2.1.3 (#1, Sep 19 2002, 13:15:46)
[GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)] on linux2
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import _imaging
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
ImportError: No module named _imaging

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From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com  Mon Dec 23 20:18:37 2002
From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:18:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Pound users?
Message-ID: <BA2CD9CD.78CC%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>

Is anyone out there using Pound in a production capacity with a ZEO/Zope
setup? Particularly using sessions? - chris

From list@zettai.net  Mon Dec 23 20:23:23 2002
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:23:23 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <36B5ED10-16C5-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <BA2D213A.15D0D%list@zettai.net>

perhaps this will be of help:

http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope

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> From: Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:23:51 -0500
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Cc: Tim Wilson <wilson@visi.com>
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
> 
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 03:03  PM, Tim Wilson wrote:
> 
>>> I'm fairly new to Zope, and am looking for a Product to use on my site
>>> for displaying photos. These are mostly personal photos, so I don't
>>> have any special needs; just something that will display an index and
>>> basic navigation.
>> 
>> Try the Photo product. http://www.zope.org/Members/rbickers/Photo
> 
> OK, I've followed the directions, and installed PIL. The installation
> went without incident, but when I try to view a Photo/PhotoFolder, I
> get the error message"
> 
> Error Type: NameError
> Error Value: global name 'PIL' is not defined
> 
> I've read what I can on the web and in the docs, and it seems that the
> Python version running Zope can't access PIL. What's the trick to get
> PIL available to Zope's Python?
> 
> ___/
> /
> __/
> /
> ____/
> Ed Leafe
> http://leafe.com/
> http://foxcentral.net
> 
> 
> 
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From huima@fountainpark.org  Tue Dec 24 01:50:29 2002
From: huima@fountainpark.org (Heimo Laukkanen)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 03:50:29 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Windows webdav clients (Teamdrive, Webdrive), zope and dreamweaver
Message-ID: <3E07BD65.9010002@fountainpark.org>

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Hi all,

I did some dancing over webdav with windows and found totally new 
problems and solved them too. I downloaded both latest teamdrive and 
webdrive to my windows laptop, and used them to access Zope ( 2.6.0 ) 
through webdav.

In Zope I had created a PUT_factory, which maps files saved ending with 
.html, .htm, .HTML and .HTM to Zope Page template. As I was using 
teamdrive / xythos client with Dreamweaver ( 4.01 ) I noticed that if I 
opened a pagetemplate ( something.html ) through webdav and saved it 
again, the template got saved as a File - rather than a pagetemplate, as 
it was supposed. When I tried the same with other text-application, like 
textpad , similar did not happen - also it did not happen if I used 
Webdrive as a webdav client or Dreamweaver's own internal webdav-client.

Looking at webdavlogger's log and access logs I noticed that there was 
something different how teamdrive and webdrive were implemented. Also we 
have to remember that Dreamweaver makes a strange temp-file dance, when 
saving a file.

With Teamdrive Dreamweaver's tmp file was apparently moved / renamed to 
.html, while webdrive managed the same differently. So in the sense of 
how everything happened in Zope with teamdrive was:

Create a temp file Something.tmp and do put
Delete old real-file.html
Rename / Move Something.tmp to real-file.html

While this happened, the object that was created was a file - and not a 
pagetemplate.

As soon as a realised this, it was easy to fix the PUT_factory to map 
also .tmp files to pagetemplate. Included is a PUT_factory for an example.

Hope this helps others too.

Reference:
http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb/dwhowto

-huima

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from Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript import PythonScript

from Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate import ZopePageTemplate

from OFS.DTMLDocument import DTMLDocument

from OFS.Image import Image

from OFS.Image import File

def PUT_factory( self, name, typ, body ):

# Gimme a PageTemplate or a PythonScript, but never DTML!

if typ=='text/x-python' or (body and body[0]=='#'):

ob = PythonScript( name )

elif typ.startswith('text'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

elif typ.startswith('image/'):

ob = Image(name, '', body, content_type=typ)

elif name.endswith('html'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

elif name.endswith('htm'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

elif name.endswith('HTML'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

elif name.endswith('HTM'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

elif name.endswith('tmp'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

elif name.endswith('TMP'):

ob = ZopePageTemplate(name, body, content_type='text/html')

else:

ob = File(name, '', body, content_type=typ)

return ob

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From rhires@earthlink.net  Tue Dec 24 01:43:18 2002
From: rhires@earthlink.net (Russell Hires)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:43:18 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Pound users?
In-Reply-To: <BA2CD9CD.78CC%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>
References: <BA2CD9CD.78CC%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>
Message-ID: <E18Qe6J-0007W1-00@poet.village-smurf.com>

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I can't help you, but what is Pound? Never heard of that! :-)

Russell

On Monday 23 December 2002 15:18 pm, you wrote:
> Is anyone out there using Pound in a production capacity with a ZEO/Zope
> setup? Particularly using sessions? - chris
>
>
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From zope@thewebsons.com  Tue Dec 24 05:48:58 2002
From: zope@thewebsons.com (beno)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:48:58 -0400
Subject: [Zope] Z3
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021224014822.00b17df0@mail.thewebsons.com>

Hi;
Anybody know when the approximate release date is for Z3?
TIA,
beno

From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Tue Dec 24 06:18:20 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:18:20 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Windows webdav clients (Teamdrive, Webdrive), zope and
 dreamweaver
In-Reply-To: <3E07BD65.9010002@fountainpark.org>
References: <3E07BD65.9010002@fountainpark.org>
Message-ID: <55492574.1040710700@[192.168.1.2]>

--On 24 December 2002 03:50 +0200 Heimo Laukkanen <huima@fountainpark.org> 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I did some dancing over webdav with windows and found totally new
> problems and solved them too. I downloaded both latest teamdrive and
> webdrive to my windows laptop, and used them to access Zope ( 2.6.0 )
> through webdav.
>
> In Zope I had created a PUT_factory, which maps files saved ending with
> .html, .htm, .HTML and .HTM to Zope Page template. As I was using
> teamdrive / xythos client with Dreamweaver ( 4.01 ) I noticed that if I

Hi Heimo:

This is a new one on me -
<http://files.xythos.com/home/xythos/>

I must check this out. What are
your impressions of WebDrive vs. TeamDrive vs. Xythos?

Thanks for the updated PUT_factory.

>
> Reference:
> http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb/dwhowto

I'll try and find a moment to update this HowTo.

Paul

--
 The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK
   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/

From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Tue Dec 24 06:22:13 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:22:13 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <C908E142-16D3-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
References: <C908E142-16D3-11D7-9000-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <55725078.1040710933@[192.168.1.2]>

--On 23 December 2002 19:08 -0500 Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> wrote:

>
> 	Not if I run [zopedir]/bin/python. If I run the /usr/bin/python instead,
> I can import w/o problem.
>
>> If not, check why and/or post the errors here...
>
> [root@marge 2-6-0]# ./bin/python
> Python 2.1.3 (#1, Sep 19 2002, 13:15:46)
> [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)] on linux2
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>  >>> import _imaging
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>    File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
> ImportError: No module named _imaging

You've got a problem with the environment variables used
by [zopedir]/bin/python.

One way of working round this is to edit your start script
in [zopedir] so Zope uses /usr/bin/python. This may break
other things though.

Paul

--
 The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK
   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/

From huima@fountainpark.org  Tue Dec 24 06:57:28 2002
From: huima@fountainpark.org (Heimo Laukkanen)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:57:28 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Windows webdav clients (Teamdrive, Webdrive), zope and
 dreamweaver
References: <3E07BD65.9010002@fountainpark.org> <55492574.1040710700@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <3E080558.9080805@fountainpark.org>

Paul Browning wrote:

> I must check this out. What are
> your impressions of WebDrive vs. TeamDrive vs. Xythos?

Well - the Xythos client is what used to be teamdrive. ,-)

I haven't had either on a heavy production use - which would give some 
insight, but from small tests and use I would put my buck on Webdrive. 
There is propably more magic in Teamdrive - but for my need, to map the 
webdav server to a windows machine, webdrive is enough.

It also seems that Xythos aims higher and is going to be more than just 
a network drive mapper / client. In my books this only makes the case 
stronger pro webdrive, if this webdav / ftp mapping is your need ,-)

> Thanks for the updated PUT_factory.
..
> I'll try and find a moment to update this HowTo.

Nice..I'll do some testing with Dreamweaver MX and try to see how much 
has changed -- if I have time for that ,-)

-huima

From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Dec 24 08:25:13 2002
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:25:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Z3
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021224014822.00b17df0@mail.thewebsons.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021224014822.00b17df0@mail.thewebsons.com>
Message-ID: <338086.1040721913@[192.168.0.3]>

First alpha on 31. December 2002.
Check with the zope3 mailing list or the Zope 3 Wiki on dev.zope.org.

-aj

--On Dienstag, 24. Dezember 2002 01:48 -0400 beno <zope@thewebsons.com> 
wrote:

> Hi;
> Anybody know when the approximate release date is for Z3?
> TIA,
> beno
>
>
>
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From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Dec 24 11:25:49 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:25:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZPT Print Theme
In-Reply-To: <au7bb9$4ko$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <au7bb9$4ko$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <15880.17469.389809.694457@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mikhail wrote at 2002-12-23 18:37 +0300:
 > Zope.org site have a print version with light design. 
 > 
 > How I can make "print version" like on Zope.org for my site on ZPT if all 
 > my Page Tamplates use macros from 'main_template' Page Template. "Print" 
 > attribute will be getted from GET part of REQUEST:
 >   request.print == 'on'.
<tal:div define="
  print request/print | nothing;
  "
>
  .....
  <XXXX .... tal:condition="not: print">
    stuff you do not like for the printable version
  </XXXX>
  <XXXX .... tal:condition="print">
    stuff you do like only for the printable version
  </XXXX>
  .....
</tal:div>

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Dec 24 11:16:38 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:16:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] privileges problem
In-Reply-To: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
References: <20011224004633534645.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <15880.16918.82484.745314@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Catonano wrote at 2001-12-24 00:46 +0100:
 > I'm tring to execute this script:
 > 
 > lista = []
 > folder = container.indice2() #indice2 is a ZCatalog
 > for file in folder:
 >  if not file.hasProperty('codice'):
A catalog does not return the actual objects, but so called brains.
You use "getObject" to get the object from the brain.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Dec 24 11:20:23 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:20:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope number of threads
In-Reply-To: <1040633575.6053.20.camel@m22241>
References: <1040633575.6053.20.camel@m22241>
Message-ID: <15880.17143.561357.556053@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry Florac wrote at 2002-12-23 09:52 +0100:
 > I didn't found any answer to this probably simple question : what's the
 > best way to define a "good" number of threads for Zope ?
 > Is the default number defined in z2.py (4) the best for every situation,
 > or does this number have to be increased when working with sites with a
 > high volume of transactions ??
When you are concerned with throughput (and you do most work inside
Zope and not in external processes, such as external relational databases),
you use a small number of threads.

When most of the work is done outside of Zope or you want to optimize
response time, a higher thread number is adequate.

Each thread requires a ZODB database connection. The Zope code currently
limits the number of such connections to 7.
When you want to increase Zope's thread number beyond 7, you should also
increase the connection number. Zope will then need more memory (for its
ZODB caches).

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Dec 24 11:29:20 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:29:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Content Management
In-Reply-To: <HMEPKNDKKNGBFBOPPLPMAEMACBAA.dmidd@chartermi.net>
References: <HMEPKNDKKNGBFBOPPLPMAEMACBAA.dmidd@chartermi.net>
Message-ID: <15880.17680.327434.333255@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Daryl Middleton wrote at 2002-12-23 11:53 -0500:
 > I need to be able to have many people collaborate on a project where they
 > could send me text data delivered to a specific file that is assigned
 > according to their geographic area.  From that text file I will then utilize
 > a python script to organize the text into XML for a book type publication.
 > I am not sure if I should just collect the data in Zope, and then place it
 > in Apache where scripts could manipulate the text for XML.  I know that
 > Python and Apache work very well for the XML conversion and XSLT.  My main
 > question is how would I design a form in Zope that would deliver the text
 > file to that specific file listed above. Any suggestions would be helpful.
A form is an input device allowing you to enter data.
It is not intended to "deliver a file".

I would keep all data in Zope and write a file on request.
I would use an External Method for this.

However, your problem specification is too vague to say something
reliably.

Dieter

From troester@fh-heilbronn.de  Tue Dec 24 13:07:09 2002
From: troester@fh-heilbronn.de (F. Troester)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:07:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Invocation of a method by its zclass name
Message-ID: <000301c2ab4d$62163810$6401a8c0@mbmsrprivalix>

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Hi,
 
is there the possibility to call a method, defined in the the
/Control_Panel/Products/.../propertysheets/methods folder, without an
existing object, only by calling the zclass and this method?
How is this done?
 
Thank you
Fritz Troester

<mailto:troester@fh-heilbronn.de>

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From rdmurray+dated+1041171857.1585ed@bitdance.com  Tue Dec 24 14:24:15 2002
From: rdmurray+dated+1041171857.1585ed@bitdance.com (R. David Murray)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Z3
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021224014822.00b17df0@mail.thewebsons.com>
Message-ID: <1040739855.34929.TMDA@twirl.bitdance.com>

Beno writes:
>Anybody know when the approximate release date is for Z3?

Jim has said Alpha 1 *will* be cut on the 30th.  Of course, this
assumes we didn't break it too badly to fix in the Great Renaming <grin>.

Keep in mind that this is a very early *alpha*.  Its purpose is to
provide a known base against which developers can try to write some
basic apps, so we can find out what needs fixed/added/documented.
Among other things, it is going to be *slow*.  And it will in no
way be backward compatible with Z2, at this stage.

--RDM

From mikhail@freehand.ru  Tue Dec 24 15:08:50 2002
From: mikhail@freehand.ru (Mikhail)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:08:50 +0300
Subject: [Zope] RE: ZPT Print Theme
References: <H00000fd004d3761.1040684549.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>
Message-ID: <au9u17$hvo$1@main.gmane.org>

> Here's how I do it...
> 
> Here's the first line of my index_html...
> 
> <html metal:use-macro="here/getTemplate">
> 
> 
> 'getTemplate' is a python-script, consisting of...
> 
> request = container.REQUEST
> 
> if request.has_key('pp'):
> return context.standard_print_template.macros['master']
> else:
> return context.standard_template.macros['master']

It seems to be right, but, unfortunately, it does not work.

What I hase:
main_template - normal Page Template like this:

and many other page templates that call it:

You recomend me change main_template to python script:
## Script (Python) "main_template"
##bind container=container
##bind context=context
##bind namespace=
##bind script=script
##bind subpath=traverse_subpath
##parameters=
##title=
##

request = container.REQUEST

if request.has_key('print'):
    return context.print_template.macros['page']
else:
    return context.normal_template.macros['page']
-------------------------------------------------

Now, when I try to render pages I have an error:

Undefined

with traceback:
[....skip....]
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 158, in 
__call__
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 191, in 
interpret
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/TAL/TALInterpreter.py, line 510, in 
do_useMacro
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/TALES.py, line 247, 
in evaluate
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py, line 
198, in __call__
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/Expressions.py, line 
188, in _eval
Undefined: macros not found in 
'container/templates/freehand.pt/macros/page', at line 1, column 1

Or in ZMI with checked "Expand macros when editing" flag:

Macro expansion failed
Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Undefined: macros not found in 
'container/templates/main_template/macros/page', at line 1, column 1

What I do wrong and can that problem be resolved in this direction?

-- 
Mikhail 'Xen' Kashkin

From hamzatk@dnetsystems.net  Tue Dec 24 15:42:25 2002
From: hamzatk@dnetsystems.net (Hamzat Kamal)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:42:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope number of threads
In-Reply-To: <15880.17143.561357.556053@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1040633575.6053.20.camel@m22241>
 <1040633575.6053.20.camel@m22241>
Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20021224163817.00a0a130@mail.dnetsystems.net>

Dear Dieter,

>Each thread requires a ZODB database connection. The Zope code currently
>limits the number of such connections to 7.
>When you want to increase Zope's thread number beyond 7, you should also
>increase the connection number.

I looked through the z2.py  I could not find the connection number parameter.
Can you pls tell me where to find it. I am facing similar problem may be 
this can temp solve it.

Thanks.
Kamal

>Zope will then need more memory (for its
>ZODB caches).
>
>
>Dieter
>
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From kdie@nstp.com.my  Tue Dec 24 16:08:48 2002
From: kdie@nstp.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 00:08:48 +0800 (MYT)
Subject: [Zope] Zope number of threads
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20021224163817.00a0a130@mail.dnetsystems.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212250008250.11103-100000@nstp.com.my>

On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Hamzat Kamal wrote:

> 
> Dear Dieter,
> 
> 
> 
> >Each thread requires a ZODB database connection. The Zope code currently
> >limits the number of such connections to 7.
> >When you want to increase Zope's thread number beyond 7, you should also
> >increase the connection number.
> 
> I looked through the z2.py  I could not find the connection number parameter.
> Can you pls tell me where to find it. I am facing similar problem may be 
> this can temp solve it.
> 
> Thanks.
> Kamal
>

these threads might help
http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/Main?SearchView=&Start=1&Count=20&SearchOrder=1&ExactMatch=&SearchOrder=1&Query=pool_size

> 
> >Zope will then need more memory (for its
> >ZODB caches).
> >
> >
> >Dieter
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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From yuba@cyberback.com  Tue Dec 24 19:23:23 2002
From: yuba@cyberback.com (yuba@cyberback.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:23:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Fwd: Help with Prototype and CMF
Message-ID: <8a2f31b4c693446682c971304a72c14f.yuba@cyberback.com>

Greetings,
=20
I have worked through the prototype in "The Zope Bible" and have run into trouble while creating my first "real" application=2E  I am working on a web based product to aid volunteer fire departments manage their administrative work=2E  I have based my class "Departments" on the "Entry" Classi n the AddressBook prototype and can add and delete departments as expected (getting them to list to the screen)=2E  My problem is that when I "click" a department, instead of getting the expected departmentDetails screen, I get an error saying the Departmetns has an empty or missing Doc string=
=2E

Here is my "Department" Class, with many fields deleted for brevity=2E=2E=2E

-- Begin Code --
from Globals        import Persistent, DTMLFile
from Acquisition    import Implicit
from OFS=2ESimpleItem import Item

class Department(Item, Persistent, Implicit):
    "Arfs Department Entry"
    meta_type=3D"Arfs Department"
    def __init__(self, fdid, department_name=3D''):
=09"Init Method"
=09self=2EeditDepartment(fdid, department_name)

def editDepartment(self,
                       fdid            =3D '',  # FDID
=09=09       department_name =3D '',  # Name
              =2E=2E=2E fields deleted for brevity=2E=2E=2E
=09=09       REQUEST         =3D None):
        "A Method for Editing Arfs Department Entried"
=09self=2Efdid            =3D fdid
        self=2Edepartment_name =3D department_name
 =2E=2E=2E fields deleted for brevity =2E=2E=2E
=09if REQUEST is not None:
=09    return self=2EeditDepartmentForm(self, REQUEST)

# Web Presentation Methods
    editEntryForm =3D DTMLFile("dtml/editDepartmentForm", globals())
    index_html    =3D DTMLFile("dtml/departmentDetails",  globals())

--- End Code ---

Here is 'dtml/departmentDetails'=2E=2E=2E

--- Start Code ---

<dtml-var standard_arfs_header>

<h1><dtml-var department_name></h1>
<table border=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D5>
  <dtml-if fdid>
    <tr>
      <th>FDID:</th>
      <td><dtml-var fdid</td>
    </tr><tr>
      <th>Department Name:</th>
      <td><dtml-var department_name></td>
    </tr>
  </dtml-if>
</table>

<dtml-var standard_arfs_footer>
--- End Code ---

I think the problem may me in the way I am adding the departments to the application=2E  In the prototype, we set a variable in the constructor of the AddressBook Class, but since all fire departments (in the US) have a uniquie Fire Department Id (fdid), I am using it for the index of the department=2E  I place the department in a dictionary named "Departments" as follows (code deleted for brevity)=
:

--- Begin Code ---

class Arfs(SimpleItem):
    "An Arfs Object"
    meta_type=3D"Arfs"
    def __init__(self, id, title):
        self=2Eid =3D id
=09self=2Etitle =3D title
=09self=2EDepartments =3D {}

def __getitem__(self, fdid):
        return self=2EDepartments[str(fdid)]=2E__of__(self)

def addDepartment(self, fdid,
                            department_name =3D '',
=09=09=09    REQUEST         =3D None):
        "Method to Add a Department to Arfs"
=09new_department =3D Department(fdid, department_name)
=09self=2EDepartments[str(fdid)] =3D new_department
=09self=2E__changed__(1)
=09if REQUEST is not None:
            return self=2Eindex_html(self, REQUEST)

--- End Code ---

I expect to be able to go to http://localhost/Arfs/23005 to get the departmentDetails for Vilonia Fire & Rescue (my department), but I get the "Departments has an empty or missing Doc String" error=2E  I know this is a long post (thanks for sticking with it this long!)=2E=2E=2Ebut do you see what I've missed?  I've spent 2 days looking for it, but can't find it=2E  Any help would be appreciated=
=2E
>=20
Also=2E=2E=2EI've been reading up on the CMF, and wonder if it would be applicable to an application where multiple users would be managing their departments=2E  This would entail lots of forms and a database interface=2E  Most, if not all of the CMF examples I have seen so far are sites to post articles; would I be well advised to look into CMF for my application=
?

Thanks for your time, and Merry Christmas (or Happy Holidays :-) to all;

Captian Greg Lindstrom
Vilonia Fire & Rescue
Vilonia, Arkansas (USA)

From intranetdeb@yahoo.com  Tue Dec 24 19:24:51 2002
From: intranetdeb@yahoo.com (Deb B.)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:24:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] RE: Zope and MySQL on Windows
Message-ID: <20021224192451.96046.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com>

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I came to this group today to see what I could find on a particular 
ZOPE/MySQL issue I'm having. It relates to this thread, somewhat. I 
hope someone can give me some insight.

I have ZOPE installed on a WIN98 machine that is acting as a 
temporary server until we go through a complete network upgrade to 
Windows 2000 Server, et. al. I have a development workstation that is 
using Windows 2000 Professional. This machine is where I have 
installed MySQL. So, I have ZOPE on one machine and MySQL on the 
other.

I installed the myODBC from mysql.com because I couldn't get any of 
the ZMySQLDA/MySQLdb products to work on any version of Windows 
(obviously it favors the Unix/Linux environment). Well, Windows is 
what I'm stuck with now.

I created databases, set up my ODBC connections, set up my Z SQL 
Methods and SQL Forms (depending upon which databases I access) and 
can access the databases with beautiful results on my ZOPE 
pages......BUT.....the results are extremellllllllllllllllllllly slow 
in coming. Even small databases with just a few records take forever 
to come up even with the most basic of SQL statements using either 
SQL Forms (for example, my Purchase Order database):

<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-if CheckPermissions>

<dtml-unless REFERER><dtml-call "REQUEST.set
('REFERER',HTTP_REFERER)"></dtml-unless>
<dtml-unless sqf_edit_method><dtml-call "REQUEST.set
('sqf_edit_method','edit')"></dtml-unless>

<table CELLSPACING='&dtml-table_cell_spacing;'>
<tr BGCOLOR='&dtml-internal_title_color;'>
 <th>P.O.#</th>
 <th>Order Date</th>
 <th>P.O. Vendor</th>
 <th>Items</th>
 <th>Terms</th>
 <th>Total</th>
</tr>

<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('bat_size',_.int(viewlistlen))">
<dtml-unless start_key><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('start_key',0)"></dtml-
unless>
<dtml-if "_.int(start_key)<0"><dtml-call "REQUEST.set
('start_key',0)"></dtml-if>
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('next_key',_.int(start_key))">

<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('flag',0)">

<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('q','select * from po2002 where autoid 
>= '+_.str(start_key)+' order by autoid asc')">

<dtml-try>
<dtml-in "SQL(q=q)" size=bat_size>
<dtml-if "_.int(next_key) < _.int(autoid)">
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('next_key',autoid)">
</dtml-if>

<tr valign="top" align="left" BGCOLOR='<dtml-if "_.int(flag)
==1">&dtml-internal_c1_color;<dtml-else>&dtml-
internal_c2_color;</dtml-if>'>

<td><a href="&dtml-sqf_edit_method;?edit_key=<dtml-var 
autoid>&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;"><dtml-var autoid></a></td>
 <td><dtml-var order_date></td>
 <td><dtml-var vendor_name></td>
 <td><dtml-var items></td>
 <td><dtml-var terms></td>
 <td><dtml-var total></td>
</tr>
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('flag',1-_.int(flag))">
</dtml-in>

<dtml-except>
  <h1>General error</h1>
  <dtml-var errorinternalmethod>
</dtml-try>

</table>

<br>
<a href="&dtml-URL0;?start_key=0&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">First</a> -
<a href="&dtml-URL0;?start_key=<dtml-var "_.int(start_key)-_.int
(bat_size)">&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">Prev</a> -
<a href="&dtml-URL0;?start_key=<dtml-var "_.int
(next_key)">&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">Next</a>

<dtml-else>
    <dtml-var standard_html_header>
</dtml-if>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>

and then Z SQL Methods (for example, a document log database):

Example 1:

select * from yr2000

Example 2:

SELECT * FROM yr2000 WHERE doc_author='JEF'

I also tried to set up a search form so users can perform searches 
themselves instead of having to be limited to choosing from pre-
constructed reports I provide them. It's 
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwggggggggggggggg slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 
though. I even went so far as to perform table structure tests on my 
MySQL databases to ensure I was optimizing them for the fastest 
performance. Any searches done through a MySQL client returns quick 
results but I want all of their access to these databases to be web-
based (i.e., through ZOPE site). Help!

Thanks.
Deb

--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, "Bryan Capitano" 
wrote:
> There are several options to using Zope+MySQL on the same Windows 
box. I
> have not done this in a production server environment, so I can't 
say how
> well that would work. But for development purposes, it works just 
fine.
> 
> I had some problems getting python-MySQL adapter to install on 
Windows and
> recognize my python installation (because I was trying to install 
MySQLDA).
> But there are two ways around this problem which I've learned:
> (1) One is to install MyODBC (see www.mysql.com) and create a 
System ODBC
> database for your MySQL database. Then install the MyODBCDA 
database adapter
> for Zope (instead of MySQLDA). This allows you to talk to MySQL 
through an
> ODBC bridge. This solution works like a charm.
> (2) The second workaround is to install Python2.1.3 on your machine
> separately from the Windows Zope installation. Then install the .exe
> Mysql-Python package (www.sourceforge.net). Then copy the installed 
files to
> the Zope/Python directory. Then install MySQLDa. This solution was 
provided
> to me by another list member (hiren_hindocha@a...).
> 
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@z... [mailto:zope-admin@z...]On Behalf Of Greg &
> Janet LINDSTROM
> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:41 AM
> To: zope@z...
> Subject: [Zope] Zope and MySQL on Windows
> 
> 
> Greetings-
> I have a fairly mature Python application which uses MySQL for the 
database.
> I would like to switch over from a single machine application to a 
web based
> app (and maybe even make some money!!), and thought Zope would be 
the
> logical choice. The past 2 weeks have had me running through the 
examples
> in the Zope book and the Zope "Bible", and I *think* I am ready to 
create a
> project. Then I read the the creators of Zope do not reccommend 
using MySQL
> with Zope on a Windows box. Rats! So...
> 1. Is this still sound advice?
> 2. If so, what other Open Source Database is out there. I 
really would
> like data/time data types, so that would leave Gadfly out, right? 
Plus. my
> database is getting fairly large (~5 Meg), so I'm not sure I want 
to load it
> all in memory.
> 
> Thanks for any advice you can supply!
> Greg Lindstrom
> Vilonia, Arkansas
>

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<P>I came to this group today to see what I could find on a particular <BR>ZOPE/MySQL issue I'm having. It relates to this thread, somewhat. I <BR>hope someone can give me some insight.<BR><BR>I have ZOPE installed on a WIN98 machine that is acting as a <BR>temporary server until we go through a complete network upgrade to <BR>Windows 2000 Server, et. al. I have a development workstation that is <BR>using Windows 2000 Professional. This machine is where I have <BR>installed MySQL. So, I have ZOPE on one machine and MySQL on the <BR>other. <BR><BR>I installed the myODBC from mysql.com because I couldn't get any of <BR>the ZMySQLDA/MySQLdb products to work on any version of Windows <BR>(obviously it favors the Unix/Linux environment). Well, Windows is <BR>what I'm stuck with now.<BR><BR>I created databases, set up my ODBC connections, set up my Z SQL <BR>Methods and SQL Forms (depending upon which databases I access) and <BR>can access the databases with beautiful results on my ZOPE <BR>pages......BUT.....the results are extremellllllllllllllllllllly slow <BR>in coming. Even small databases with just a few records take forever <BR>to come up even with the most basic of SQL statements using either <BR>SQL Forms (for example, my Purchase Order database):<BR></P>
<P><dtml-var standard_html_header><BR><dtml-if CheckPermissions><BR><BR><dtml-unless REFERER><dtml-call "REQUEST.set<BR>('REFERER',HTTP_REFERER)"></dtml-unless><BR><dtml-unless sqf_edit_method><dtml-call "REQUEST.set<BR>('sqf_edit_method','edit')"></dtml-unless><BR><BR><h3>> <dtml-var title_or_id>: <dtml-var document_title> (List)</h3><BR><P><BR><a href="&dtml-URL2;/">Up</a> -<BR><a href="&dtml-REFERER;">Back</a> -<BR><a href="list?REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">List</a> -<BR><a href="add?REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">Add</a><BR><BR><br><br><BR><BR>        <BR><table CELLSPACING='&dtml-table_cell_spacing;'><BR><tr BGCOLOR='&dtml-internal_title_color;'><BR> <th>P.O.#</th><BR> <th>Order Date</th><BR> <th>P.O. Vendor</th><BR> <th>Items</th><BR> <th>Terms</th><BR> <th>Total</th><BR></tr><BR><BR><BR><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('bat_size',_.int(viewlistlen))"><BR><dtml-unless start_key><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('start_key',0)"></dtml-<BR>unless><BR><dtml-if "_.int(start_key)<0"><dtml-call "REQUEST.set<BR>('start_key',0)"></dtml-if><BR><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('next_key',_.int(start_key))"><BR><BR><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('flag',0)"><BR><BR><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('q','select * from po2002 where autoid <BR>>= '+_.str(start_key)+' order by autoid asc')"><BR><BR><BR><dtml-try><BR><dtml-in "SQL(q=q)" size=bat_size><BR><dtml-if "_.int(next_key) < _.int(autoid)"><BR>  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('next_key',autoid)"><BR></dtml-if><BR><BR><tr valign="top" align="left" BGCOLOR='<dtml-if "_.int(flag)<BR>==1">&dtml-internal_c1_color;<dtml-else>&dtml-<BR>internal_c2_color;</dtml-if>'><BR><BR> <td><a href="&dtml-sqf_edit_method;?edit_key=<dtml-var <BR>autoid>&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;"><dtml-var autoid></a></td><BR> <td><dtml-var order_date></td><BR> <td><dtml-var vendor_name></td><BR> <td><dtml-var items></td><BR> <td><dtml-var terms></td><BR> <td><dtml-var total></td><BR></tr><BR><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('flag',1-_.int(flag))"><BR></dtml-in><BR><BR><dtml-except><BR>  <h1>General error</h1><BR>  <dtml-var errorinternalmethod><BR></dtml-try><BR><BR></table><BR><BR><br><BR><a href="&dtml-URL0;?start_key=0&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">First</a> -<BR><a href="&dtml-URL0;?start_key=<dtml-var "_.int(start_key)-_.int<BR>(bat_size)">&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">Prev</a> -<BR><a href="&dtml-URL0;?start_key=<dtml-var "_.int<BR>(next_key)">&REFERER=&dtml-REFERER;">Next</a><BR><BR><dtml-else><BR>    <dtml-var standard_html_header><BR></dtml-if><BR><dtml-var standard_html_footer><BR></P>
<P>and then Z SQL Methods (for example, a document log database):<BR><BR>Example 1:<BR><BR>select * from yr2000 <BR><BR>Example 2:<BR><BR>SELECT * FROM yr2000 WHERE doc_author='JEF'<BR><BR>I also tried to set up a search form so users can perform searches <BR>themselves instead of having to be limited to choosing from pre-<BR>constructed reports I provide them. It's <BR>daaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwggggggggggggggg slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww <BR>though. I even went so far as to perform table structure tests on my <BR>MySQL databases to ensure I was optimizing them for the fastest <BR>performance. Any searches done through a MySQL client returns quick <BR>results but I want all of their access to these databases to be web-<BR>based (i.e., through ZOPE site). Help!<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR>Deb<BR><BR><BR>--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, "Bryan Capitano" <BRYAN@C...>wrote:<BR>> There are several options to using Zope+MySQL on the same Windows <BR>box. I<BR>> have not done this in a production server environment, so I can't <BR>say how<BR>> well that would work. But for development purposes, it works just <BR>fine.<BR>> <BR>> I had some problems getting python-MySQL adapter to install on <BR>Windows and<BR>> recognize my python installation (because I was trying to install <BR>MySQLDA).<BR>> But there are two ways around this problem which I've learned:<BR>> (1) One is to install MyODBC (see www.mysql.com) and create a <BR>System ODBC<BR>> database for your MySQL database. Then install the MyODBCDA <BR>database adapter<BR>> for Zope (instead of MySQLDA). This allows you to talk to MySQL <BR>through an<BR>> ODBC bridge. This solution works like a charm.<BR>> (2) The second workaround is to install Python2.1.3 on your machine<BR>> separately from the Windows Zope installation. Then install the .exe<BR>> Mysql-Python package (www.sourceforge.net). Then copy the installed <BR>files to<BR>> the Zope/Python directory. Then install MySQLDa. This solution was <BR>provided<BR>> to me by another list member (hiren_hindocha@a...).<BR>> <BR>> <BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: zope-admin@z... [mailto:zope-admin@z...]On Behalf Of Greg &<BR>> Janet LINDSTROM<BR>> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:41 AM<BR>> To: zope@z...<BR>> Subject: [Zope] Zope and MySQL on Windows<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Greetings-<BR>> I have a fairly mature Python application which uses MySQL for the <BR>database.<BR>> I would like to switch over from a single machine application to a <BR>web based<BR>> app (and maybe even make some money!!), and thought Zope would be <BR>the<BR>> logical choice. The past 2 weeks have had me running through the <BR>examples<BR>> in the Zope book and the Zope "Bible", and I *think* I am ready to <BR>create a<BR>> project. Then I read the the creators of Zope do not reccommend <BR>using MySQL<BR>> with Zope on a Windows box. Rats! So...<BR>> 1. Is this still sound advice?<BR>> 2. If so, what other Open Source Database is out there. I <BR>really would<BR>> like data/time data types, so that would leave Gadfly out, right? <BR>Plus. my<BR>> database is getting fairly large (~5 Meg), so I'm not sure I want <BR>to load it<BR>> all in memory.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks for any advice you can supply!<BR>> Greg Lindstrom<BR>> Vilonia, Arkansas<BR>> <BR><BR><BR></P><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Wed Dec 25 02:38:21 2002
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 18:38:21 -0800
Subject: [Zope] logged_out from CookieCrumbler
Message-ID: <200212250238.SAA00810@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

One of my sites uses frames.  User management uses the CookieCrumbler.  When 
a user logs out, a logged_out dtml-method is invoked.  The logged_out method
kills off session and browser information and then transfers to the initial 
splash screen which links to the login page which includes the login page in 
the frameset.  When the user logs out, the splash screen is rendered in one
of the frames of the frameset rather than replacing the frameset.  What's the 
magic needed?

From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com  Wed Dec 25 15:04:21 2002
From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 10:04:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Pound users?
In-Reply-To: <E18Qe6J-0007W1-00@poet.village-smurf.com>
Message-ID: <2604D362-181A-11D7-9132-000393849E6A@fredericksburg.com>

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Pound is a load-balancing server that apparently was built orginally 
specifically to feed traffic through Zope clients on a ZEO. I  
installed a copy and the setup is really really easy, but I haven't 
tried putting some stress on it to see how it works. We're using a 
squid-to-ZEO deal right now which works OK, but I need a way to bind a 
user to a server for sessions because we had real problems trying to 
use Berkeley to back a non-undoing storage for the built-in sessions. I 
got it working, but it looked like it was eating our servers for lunch. 
Now I'm not so sure that was what was causing our performance problems.
Here's their site: http://www.apsis.ch/pound

On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 08:43 PM, Russell Hires wrote:

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> On Monday 23 December 2002 15:18 pm, you wrote:
>> Is anyone out there using Pound in a production capacity with a 
>> ZEO/Zope
>> setup? Particularly using sessions? - chris
>>
>>
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Pound is a load-balancing server that apparently was built orginally
specifically to feed traffic through Zope clients on a ZEO. I 
installed a copy and the setup is really really easy, but I haven't
tried putting some stress on it to see how it works. We're using a
squid-to-ZEO deal right now which works OK, but I need a way to bind a
user to a server for sessions because we had real problems trying to
use Berkeley to back a non-undoing storage for the built-in sessions.
I got it working, but it looked like it was eating our servers for
lunch. Now I'm not so sure that was what was causing our performance
problems.

Here's their site:
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I can't help you, but what is Pound? Never heard of that! :-)

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On Monday 23 December 2002 15:18 pm, you wrote:

<excerpt>Is anyone out there using Pound in a production capacity with
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setup? Particularly using sessions? - chris

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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Dec 25 22:48:36 2002
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 14:48:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] logged_out from CookieCrumbler
References: <200212250238.SAA00810@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <3E0A35C4.2010704@neurobs.com>

i am sure you know that to replace the current framset with another one 
or a another page you would have to use target = __top in the <a> tag. 
However if youare redirecting, I suggest you redirect to a page that 
then uses javascript to do that, else your splash will only render in 
the frame from which it is called.

hth
AM

Dennis Allison wrote:

>One of my sites uses frames.  User management uses the CookieCrumbler.  When 
>a user logs out, a logged_out dtml-method is invoked.  The logged_out method
>kills off session and browser information and then transfers to the initial 
>splash screen which links to the login page which includes the login page in 
>the frameset.  When the user logs out, the splash screen is rendered in one
>of the frames of the frameset rather than replacing the frameset.  What's the 
>magic needed?
>
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From mawebb@rocketmail.com  Thu Dec 26 00:53:02 2002
From: mawebb@rocketmail.com (Malcolm Webb)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:53:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Can't connect to Zope after initial install...
Message-ID: <20021226005302.28586.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com>

I just installed Zope onto the following config:

-Redhat 7.1.2
-gcc 2.96
-python 2.1.3

My box is currently running Apache, and hosts 11 web sites (virtual
hosts). The box has two ethernet cards and two static IPs.

It appears as though everything has installed correctly (no errors).
I've created a "zope" user and chmod'ed all the files in the zope
directory.

When I run the "start" script, it says that the Zserver has been
started and is listening on port 8080. But then when I try to connect
using a standard web browser, I get a "connection refused" error.

This happens even if I turn off Apache.

According to "netstat", something is listening on port 8080.

But nothing is being written to the log file, and I can't connect.

Can anyone offer some advice?

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From ed@leafe.com  Thu Dec 26 02:59:10 2002
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 21:59:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <BA2D213A.15D0D%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <01CFBA99-187E-11D7-89DA-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Monday, December 23, 2002, at 03:23  PM, george donnelly wrote:

> perhaps this will be of help:
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope

Yes, it helped. I'm getting further now. I got to the point where I 
went to test it in Python. I don't have Tcl/TK installed on my machine, 
so I commented out the sections in Makefile and Setup as instructed. 
But when I run the Python test, I get the following:

Python 2.1.3 (#1, Sep 19 2002, 13:15:46)
[GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)] on linux2
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import PIL.Image
 >>> a=PIL.Image.open('Images/lena.jpg')
 >>> a.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
   File "PIL/ImageFile.py", line 126, in load
     self.load_prepare()
   File "PIL/ImageFile.py", line 180, in load_prepare
     self.im = Image.core.new(self.mode, self.size)
   File "PIL/Image.py", line 39, in __getattr__
     raise ImportError, "The _imaging C module is not installed"
ImportError: The _imaging C module is not installed

Seems to me that just commenting out the Tk stuff didn't work - it 
still can't find the right image processing module. Do I have to 
install Tk, or is there some other reason for this error that I can 
correct?

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From lennart@regebro.nu  Thu Dec 26 09:08:09 2002
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:08:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
References: <01CFBA99-187E-11D7-89DA-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <001901c2acbe$51c872d0$6400a8c0@INGER>

From: "Ed Leafe" <ed@leafe.com>
> Seems to me that just commenting out the Tk stuff didn't work - it
> still can't find the right image processing module.

No, it can't find PIL at all. Probably the compile failed, or you aren't in
the directory where _imaging.so is.

From abmanock@earthlink.net  Thu Dec 26 12:51:57 2002
From: abmanock@earthlink.net (Adam Manock)
Date: 26 Dec 2002 07:51:57 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Can't connect to Zope after initial install...
In-Reply-To: <20021226005302.28586.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021226005302.28586.qmail@web12507.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1040907118.1205.11.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>

> According to "netstat", something is listening on port 8080.
> 
> But nothing is being written to the log file, and I can't connect.
> 
> Can anyone offer some advice?
>

If your box has X installed, does http://127.0.0.1:8080 work locally?
If not, does lynx or wget http://127.0.0.1:8080 work?
http://staticip1:8080 ?
http://staticip2:8080 ?

Host firewall problems?
cat /etc/sysconfig/ipchains
cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables
Anything about port 80 in one of those?
If so, same thing done for port 8080 in there?

Network firewall in between the browser you're using and your box?

Adam

From zeaxis555@yahoo.com  Thu Dec 26 14:49:45 2002
From: zeaxis555@yahoo.com (Dreaming Warrior)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:49:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] ImapClient hangs Zope..!
In-Reply-To: <20021220152947.62077.qmail@web40613.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021226144945.35455.qmail@web40601.mail.yahoo.com>

hi all,

i have installed and configured ImpaClient0.1.1
..which i got from zope.org..now when i try to
retrieve the mails from my mail server which is on
another machine in the same network....zope/python
starts eating up the CPU and never kills itself.....
i finally have to restart zope to kill it and start
all over again...

has anyone experienced this and plz tell me if any
remidies...
also if there is an alternate imapclient that i can
use other than this on zope2.5..

cheers

rockash.....

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From usharaf@yahoo.com  Thu Dec 26 14:51:07 2002
From: usharaf@yahoo.com (Uri Sharaf)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 06:51:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Can't connect to Zope after initial install...
In-Reply-To: <1040907118.1205.11.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <20021226145107.74101.qmail@web20910.mail.yahoo.com>

It happend to me after installing on Debian. I've
enabled DEBUG in the /etc/init.d/zope task and ebnaled
loging which indicated it was starting off on :9673
actually.

I'm sure there's an easier way?

--- Adam Manock <abmanock@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > According to "netstat", something is listening on
> port 8080.
> > 
> > But nothing is being written to the log file, and
> I can't connect.
> > 
> > Can anyone offer some advice?
> > 
> 
> If your box has X installed, does
> http://127.0.0.1:8080 work locally?
> If not, does lynx or wget http://127.0.0.1:8080
> work?
> http://staticip1:8080 ?
> http://staticip2:8080 ?
> 
> Host firewall problems?
> cat /etc/sysconfig/ipchains
> cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables
> Anything about port 80 in one of those?
> If so, same thing done for port 8080 in there?
> 
> Network firewall in between the browser you're using
> and your box?
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From borge@tsar.no  Thu Dec 26 15:40:00 2002
From: borge@tsar.no (borge@tsar.no)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:40:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How many acl_users can I have
Message-ID: <1040917200.3e0b22d07a600@epost.kvalito.no>

Hei

we are going deliver a design proposal for a
knowledge management system and we are planning
to design it with zope. The system wil be a
combined e-learning and e-testing system. A user
can log on and go through some learninig and then
he or she can go through some test to verify the
learning. Now I wonder if I can have 10.000 or
even more users in one instance of zope?

As I have understood it, each user in zope is an
object. And with 10.000 such objects it is obvious
that I should keep each object as small as possible.
My initial idea is thus to store most of the
information on each user somewhere else than on the
object, for instance in an sql database. The system
should then work something like this:

User A logs on the e-lerning site. The site gathers
information about A from the database. The site
then displays the relevant learning packages to
A. A then goes through the learning he or she wants.

Next, A logs on the knowledge test site. This site
then gets information about A from the database. The
site then presents the relevant tests to A. A goes
through some test. A's test results are then stored on
A in the database.

After this some manager can acces the database to
verify if A have passed the test.

All pages in the learning site (text, pictures etc)
will be stored in zope's object database.

Best wishes and kind regards
Børge Kjeldstad

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Thu Dec 26 17:21:27 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:21:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDBICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

I upgraded to Zope 2.6 recently and when I log onto the server via
http://staticip:8080 I get access but the left-hand frame of the ZMI is
already expanded and "pointing" to a now deleted instance of a CMF.  What
happens is that I get a page not found error in the right-hand frame.  I can
click on the left-hand frame and navigate successfully after that, but it is
a bit strange (and aggravating to a degree) that I get this behavior when
others utilizing the system do not.

Any ideas as to why this is happening?

Thanks,

Kevin

From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Dec 26 20:42:08 2002
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:42:08 -0800
Subject: [Zope] n-step product initialization
Message-ID: <3E0B69A0.8030203@neurobs.com>

Hi,
I am writing a db based product and need a 3 step initialization for it. 
In the first step the users specify the db and other params. based on 
that they are presented with a choice of tables that they select and 
based on step 2 they then specify some more params.

How do I go about doing something like that??

TIA
AM

From David.Bear@asu.edu  Thu Dec 26 23:08:38 2002
From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Zope] tales expressions issue
Message-ID: <20021226160838.E17962@asu.edu>

I have a formulator form with 12 form objects -- some text boxes, some check boxes, etc.  There are 3 multicheckbox objects that want to populate with objects from a folder object.  Ergo, I have a multicheckbox objects called department, population, and institution.  I also have folder objects by the SAME name at the same level in the zope heirarchy as the formulator form.  I have a python script called listTitles also.

Now the strange thing happens when I use a python expression in to populate each of the above mention checkbox fields.  I use "python:form.department.listTitles()" to populatre the department formulator object.  It works.  I use "python:form.population()" to populate the populatio formulator object -- it does NOT work.  Same thing for institution.

I'm begining to wonder if I can only have one expression on a formulator form.  Any idea's what might be happening?  I can put in the url "http://server/test/department/listTitles" and I get back a python list of objects in the department folder.  Which is what I expect.  (so I know acquisition is working as I think it should)
-- 
David Bear
College of Public Programs/ASU
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From aathan@memeplex.com  Thu Dec 26 23:46:49 2002
From: aathan@memeplex.com (Andrew Athan)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:46:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities
Message-ID: <001d01c2ad39$11aa9bd0$94c65140@PAVILION>

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Say you have a site which must perform certain restricted activites, but
those activities should be invokable by anonymous users IF AND ONLY IF
the users initiate them from an authorized source (e.g., a specific DTML
or ZPT script)...what is the recommended way of setting this up?
 
Example:  Site X allows anonymous users to purchase an item.  The
purchase() method is defined to be accessible only by a specific
trusted/authenticated user.  The purchase() method should not be
invokable by the anonymous user, but if the anonymous user access the
checkout page template, that page template should be able to invoke
purchase().
 
Now, say I want to invoke purchase() from an ExternalMethod that is
called from an anonymous context, what's the preferred way of setting
and supplying the appropriate credentials?
 
I have solved these problems "my way," think the solution is hairy and
dirty, and would therefore like to see what people's recommended
solutions are.
 
A.

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
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From farzy@farzy.org  Fri Dec 27 00:02:23 2002
From: farzy@farzy.org (Farzad FARID)
Date: 27 Dec 2002 01:02:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is there a Zope base file manager product?
Message-ID: <1040947343.11926.9.camel@localhost>

Hi,

I'd like to know if there is a web-based file manager built on top of
Zope or CMF.

Ideally, I'd like to integrate a file manager in a CMF or Plone site in
order to browse and modify the filesystem through the web. As a bonus,
the product should be able to handle multiple users and their rights on
Unix correctly.

Thanks

-- 
Farzad FARID <farzy@farzy.org>			   http://www.farzy.org/

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Fri Dec 27 02:44:25 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:44:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities
In-Reply-To: <001d01c2ad39$11aa9bd0$94c65140@PAVILION>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECIEDDICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

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MessageSounds like you should use a proxy role for the methods in question.

Kevin
  -----Original Message-----
  From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Andrew
Athan
  Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:47 PM
  To: zope@zope.org
  Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities

Example:  Site X allows anonymous users to purchase an item.  The
purchase() method is defined to be accessible only by a specific
trusted/authenticated user.  The purchase() method should not be invokable
by the anonymous user, but if the anonymous user access the checkout page
template, that page template should be able to invoke purchase().

Now, say I want to invoke purchase() from an ExternalMethod that is called
from an anonymous context, what's the preferred way of setting and supplying
the appropriate credentials?

I have solved these problems "my way," think the solution is hairy and
dirty, and would therefore like to see what people's recommended solutions
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Athan<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
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size=3D2>Example: =20
  Site X allows anonymous users to purchase an item.  The =
purchase() method=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, =
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anonymous=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
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From sean@horse101.com  Fri Dec 27 03:41:03 2002
From: sean@horse101.com (Sean Kelley)
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:41:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax help
Message-ID: <3E0BCBCF.90103@horse101.com>

Hi
 I need help with dtml syntax...
I have the following line before a dtml-in on a catalog:
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','on')">
I want to be able to list only items where Verified is not set to 'on'  
The default value of verified is no value at all.  If I say:
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','')">
(empty value)  I get everything.

How does one say Verified = to NOT 'on' in dtml?

From huima@fountainpark.org  Fri Dec 27 04:11:53 2002
From: huima@fountainpark.org (Heimo Laukkanen)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:11:53 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Protecting Zope solution / application -> deploying solutions
 to customers
References: <3DE11DC6.6000602@fountainpark.org> <15842.26692.285976.24545@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E0BD309.1030801@fountainpark.org>

Dieter Maurer wrote:

> You may consider putting them in a ZODB "product" (e.g. ZClass).
> A product allows you to control the distribution.
> You can specify which components are customizable.
> Only those show source code when they are imported.

I tested this with Zope 2.6.0 on both windows and Linux - and as far as 
I can tell, even though I selected no distribution and modification only 
for one object - all the objects were editable. However distributing the 
product did not work, so atleast something worked as supposed.

Can anyone confirm this with their machine - or is there actually more 
magic to make things not editable, if I make a distribution? Or have I 
totally misunderstood how the distribution shoud work...

-huima

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Dec 27 11:50:00 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:50:00 +0000
Subject: [Zope] RE: Zope and MySQL on Windows
References: <20021224192451.96046.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E0C3E68.7000500@nipltd.com>

Deb B. wrote:
> I installed the myODBC from mysql.com because I couldn't get any of
> the ZMySQLDA/MySQLdb products to work on any version of Windows
> (obviously it favors the Unix/Linux environment).

Nah, you should be using mysql-python and MySQLDA, both available from:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python

I've had them both working fine on windows so if you run into problems I may be 
able to help...

> Well, Windows is
> what I'm stuck with now.

unlucky ;-)

> <dtml-unless REFERER><dtml-call "REQUEST.set
> ('REFERER',HTTP_REFERER)"></dtml-unless>
> <dtml-unless sqf_edit_method><dtml-call "REQUEST.set
> ('sqf_edit_method','edit')"></dtml-unless>

This is horrible, please think about using ZPT and Python Scripts. It's a shame 
you're lumbered with DTML for ZSQL Methods, but maybe one day someone will have 
that for the better!

cheers,

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Dec 27 11:52:29 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:52:29 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDBICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3E0C3EFD.2030900@nipltd.com>

I'm betting you've got a cookie lying around and maybe a funky access rule of 
some sort...

Chris

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> I upgraded to Zope 2.6 recently and when I log onto the server via
> http://staticip:8080 I get access but the left-hand frame of the ZMI is
> already expanded and "pointing" to a now deleted instance of a CMF.  What
> happens is that I get a page not found error in the right-hand frame.  I can
> click on the left-hand frame and navigate successfully after that, but it is
> a bit strange (and aggravating to a degree) that I get this behavior when
> others utilizing the system do not.
> 
> Any ideas as to why this is happening?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Dec 27 11:55:53 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:55:53 +0000
Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax help
References: <3E0BCBCF.90103@horse101.com>
Message-ID: <3E0C3FC9.70406@nipltd.com>

Sean Kelley wrote:
> Hi
> I need help with dtml syntax...

...learn ZPT ;-)

> I have the following line before a dtml-in on a catalog:
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','on')">
> I want to be able to list only items where Verified is not set to 'on'  
> The default value of verified is no value at all.  If I say:
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','')">
> (empty value)  I get everything. 
> How does one say Verified = to NOT 'on' in dtml?

This has nothing to do with DTML, it is a catalog question.
If 'Verified' can either be '' or 'on', then your search can be achieved with:

your_catalog(Verified=('',))
...or:
REQUEST.set('Verified',('',))
...but I don't like seeing that. Doing that polutes the REQUEST and is rarely 
necessary or a good idea.

cheers,

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Dec 27 12:06:18 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:06:18 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: object modification email
References: <BA28B006.7765%muldrow@mac.com> <3E034959.2030200@hostway.com> <au1kr5$ec0$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E0C423A.5030302@nipltd.com>

hazmat wrote:
> i would write a plugin index for the catalog, such that when an object 
> is reindexed i apply my biz  rulz and send out emails if nesc.

Even more evilly, you can just write a python script named do_my_stuff that does 
stuff but returns None, then add an index to your catalog called do_my_stuff and 
let your objects acquire the do_my_stuff method. That way, every time they are 
recatalogued, your method gets executed.

Works particularly well with CMF sits where catalog updating is done for you.

Evil huh?

*grinz*

Chris - side effects rock

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Dec 27 12:17:40 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:17:40 +0000
Subject: [Zope] SimpleUserFolder and sha-crypted passwd
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212161118350.16912-100000@heilo.ii.uib.no> <1040238031.1452.56.camel@blackbox.palemoon.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <3E0C44E4.7090905@nipltd.com>

Adam Manock wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 05:23, BjÃ¸rge Solli wrote:
> 
>>Hi
>>
>>I want to put my old loginmanager to rest and put something simple in. 
>>SimpleUserFolder sounds nice, but it seems to do the password matching 
>>itself, and since I have sha-crypted passwords, I need to match the 
>>passwords in encrypted format. Any ideas? If none, can u please tell me to 
>>*not* use SimpleUserFolder(perhaps you have an alternative as well?).

Have you tried it? It might just work on its own ;-)

Take a look in lib/python/AccessControl/AuthEncoding.py and see if your SHA 
stuff is supported there. If it is, Zope's normal userfolder stuff (and 
therefore SUF too) will use it if it can...

Lemme know how you get on, I'll help if things need changing to make it work...

cheers,

Chris

From phil@xfr.co.uk  Fri Dec 27 12:53:44 2002
From: phil@xfr.co.uk (Philip Kilner)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:53:44 GMT
Subject: [Zope] Newbie SIte Map Question
Message-ID: <VA.00001aeb.00a3ce48@xfr.co.uk>

Hi All,

I'm trying to get a site map working as described by MWR at : -

http://www.zope.org/Members/mwr/python_zpt_sitemap_zen

I'm not having much luck - partly due to my general igorance, partly, 
more specifically, because this example uses ZPT which I am not up to 
speed with. I have created the script and the page template as 
described in the HOWTO, and - since I am using VHM - I am also using 
the "getSiteRoot" script as descibed at: -

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2001-September/002063.html

I'm not at all sure if this script is behaving - when I test it, I get 
: -

Resource not found

Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
   Check the URL and try again.

Resource: Folder instance at 0133A270"

When I attempt to acccess the site map I get: -

Error Type: TALESError
   Error Value: exceptions.AttributeError on list_pages in '', at line 
54, column 7

This is something of a show-stopper for me - I simply can't understand 
what this error is telling me or how to address it.

Any feedback gratefully received...

Regards,

PhilK

Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:42 GMT @ Ganesh

Email: phil@xfr.co.uk / Voicemail & Facsimile: 07092 070518

Tell me and I forget.
Show me and I remember.
Involve me and I understand.
 - Chinese saying

From andrew@logicalprogression.net  Fri Dec 27 14:26:47 2002
From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:26:47 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDBICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <BA3213A7.76C7%andrew@logicalprogression.net>

On 26/12/02 5:21 pm, "Kevin Carlson" <khcarlso@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I upgraded to Zope 2.6 recently and when I log onto the server via
> http://staticip:8080 I get access but the left-hand frame of the ZMI is
> already expanded and "pointing" to a now deleted instance of a CMF.  What
> happens is that I get a page not found error in the right-hand frame.  I can
> click on the left-hand frame and navigate successfully after that, but it is
> a bit strange (and aggravating to a degree) that I get this behavior when
> others utilizing the system do not.

If you are getting this and others aren't then it's almost certainly a
browser issue. I'd try emptying the disk and memory cache.

From zope_list_response@memeplex.com  Fri Dec 27 15:35:54 2002
From: zope_list_response@memeplex.com (Andrew Athan)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:35:54 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECIEDDICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <003401c2adbd$a7d93790$94c65140@PAVILION>

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I do not believe this is enough for me (also, external methods do not
implement the proxy mechanism).
 
I need to have some degree of confidence that the invoker of the method
is not someone typing a URL at their browser, but rather, that the
invoker is code I have written and hosted on the Zope instance.  I also
need to be "relatively sure" that the protected code runs only after
certain operations have been invoked, not at arbitrary points.
 
My current scheme involves explicitly adding a magic cookie (such as
"itshot":"tabasco") to the request object in the invoker, and then
looking for that cookie before executing "protected" code, in the
method.
 
I skipped the idea of using an acl_users in the protected folder, and
switching the current user to one of the authenticated users in the
protected folder ... or simpler, to explicitly setting a more powerful
role, because of the complexity of the code (I was lazy).
 
Thus, in http://zope/foobar.tal  I have <span tal:omit-tag=""
tal:define="foo python:request.set('ishot','tabasco')"> ... use
context.protected.method() .... </span>
 
And in http://zope/protected/method  I have something like:
 
if request.has_key('ishot'):
...
 
Your suggestion to use proxy roles implies a scheme whereby either
http://zope/protected/method is called through another method that adds
the appropriate role via its proxy mechanism, or is itself set to proxy
to the required role.  The issue with this is that the proxy role is set
at invoke time, instead of by logic within the method.
 
A.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of
Kevin Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:44 PM
To: Andrew Athan; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities

Sounds like you should use a proxy role for the methods in question.
 
Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Andrew Athan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:47 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities

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not believe this is enough for me (also, external methods do not =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I need=20
to have some degree of confidence that the invoker of the method is not =
someone=20
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have=20
written and hosted on the Zope instance.  I also need to be =
"relatively=20
sure" that the protected code runs only after certain operations have =
been=20
invoked, not at arbitrary points.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>My=20
current scheme involves explicitly adding a magic cookie (such as=20
"itshot":"tabasco") to the request object in the invoker, and then =
looking for=20
that cookie before executing "protected" code, in the=20
method.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
skipped the idea of using an acl_users in the protected folder, and =
switching=20
the current user to one of the authenticated users in the protected =
folder ...=20
or simpler, to explicitly setting a more powerful role, because of the=20
complexity of the code (I was lazy).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thus,=20
in <A href=3D"http://zope/foobar.tal">http://zope/foobar.tal</A>  I =
have=20
<span tal:omit-tag=3D"" tal:define=3D"foo=20
python:request.set('ishot','tabasco')"> ... use =
context.protected.method()=20
.... </span></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>And in=20
<A =
href=3D"http://zope/protected/method">http://zope/protected/method</A>&nb=
sp; I=20
have something like:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>if=20
request.has_key('ishot'):</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Your=20
suggestion to use proxy roles implies a scheme whereby either <A=20
href=3D"http://zope/protected/method">http://zope/protected/method</A> =
is called=20
through another method that adds the appropriate role via its proxy =
mechanism,=20
or is itself set to proxy to the required role.  The issue with =
this is=20
that the proxy role is set at invoke time, instead of by logic within =
the=20
method.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>A.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D343282114-27122002><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Kevin=20
  Carlson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 26, 2002 9:44 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  Andrew Athan; zope@zope.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Zope] Idiom for =
accessing=20
  restricted capabilities<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D202124202-27122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Sounds like you should use a proxy role for the methods in=20
  question.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D202124202-27122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D202124202-27122002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Kevin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
zope-admin@zope.org=20
    [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Andrew =
Athan<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
    Thursday, December 26, 2002 6:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    zope@zope.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Zope] Idiom for accessing =
restricted=20
    capabilities<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Say you have a=20
    site which must perform certain restricted activites, but those =
activities=20
    should be invokable by anonymous users IF AND ONLY IF the users =
initiate=20
    them from an authorized source (e.g., a specific DTML or ZPT =
script)...what=20
    is the recommended way of setting this up?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Example: =20
    Site X allows anonymous users to purchase an item.  The =
purchase()=20
    method is defined to be accessible only by a specific =
trusted/authenticated=20
    user.  The purchase() method should not be invokable by the =
anonymous=20
    user, but if the anonymous user access the checkout page template, =
that page=20
    template should be able to invoke purchase().</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Now, say I want=20
    to invoke purchase() from an ExternalMethod that is called from an =
anonymous=20
    context, what's the preferred way of setting and supplying the =
appropriate=20
    credentials?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
have solved=20
    these problems "my way," think the solution is hairy and =
dirty, and=20
    would therefore like to see what people's recommended solutions=20
    are.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D718432823-26122002><FONT face=3DArial=20
    size=3D2>A.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    =
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From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Fri Dec 27 16:06:09 2002
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:06:09 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities
In-Reply-To: <001d01c2ad39$11aa9bd0$94c65140@PAVILION>
References: <001d01c2ad39$11aa9bd0$94c65140@PAVILION>
Message-ID: <200212271606.09328.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Thursday 26 December 2002 11:46 pm, Andrew Athan wrote:

> Now, say I want to invoke purchase() from an ExternalMethod that is
> called from an anonymous context, what's the preferred way of setting
> and supplying the appropriate credentials?

ExternalMethod doesnt have a GUI for setting proxy roles. As you know,=20
ExternalMethods run without any protection, therefore they can contain *c=
ode*=20
that sets proxy roles.=20

--=20
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

From intranetdeb@yahoo.com  Tue Dec 24 19:47:01 2002
From: intranetdeb@yahoo.com (Deb B.)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:47:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Sudden ZOPE Error and Failure
Message-ID: <20021224194701.64994.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com>

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Please help. I haven't installed anything new today on my ZOPE server (no products, no new objects/code, etc.) and only had to shut the server down a few times due to another program's processes taking over the machine. This has happened in the past but never without any impact on ZOPE.

Now, when I start the server and try to log in to the http://intranet:8080/manage pages, I get the following error and ultimate failure:

<--there is a line(s) here that I cannot read in the DOS window but it ends starting here-->

obj.handle_error()

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line 437, in handle_error asynchat.async_chat.handle_error (self)

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medussa\asyncore.py", line 421, in handle_error self.close()

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\HTTPServer.py", line 293, in close p.more() # free up resources held by producer

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\Producers.py", line 36, in more getattr(self.logger, self.method)(self.bytes)

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line 289, in log ' - %s [%s] "%s" %d %d "%s" "%s"\n' % (

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 247, in log self.logger.log  ('%s%s' % (ip, message))

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 77, in log self.write (message)

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 53, in write self.maybe_flush()

File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 65, in maybe_flush self.file.flush()

IOError: [Errno 91] Bad file descriptor

D:\IntranetSite>

and my ZOPE is dead!

Now, I'm not a programmer. I'm just a solo IT person trying to maintain a moderately sized intranet within a small company. I have no idea how to recover from this error so that I get access to my ZOPE site again. Someone please help!

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<P>Please help. I haven't installed anything new today on my ZOPE server (no products, no new objects/code, etc.) and only had to shut the server down a few times due to another program's processes taking over the machine. This has happened in the past but never without any impact on ZOPE. </P>
<P>Now, when I start the server and try to log in to the <A href="http://intranet:8080/manage">http://intranet:8080/manage</A> pages, I get the following error and ultimate failure:</P>
<P><--there is a line(s) here that I cannot read in the DOS window but it ends starting here--></P>
<P>obj.handle_error()</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line 437, in handle_error asynchat.async_chat.handle_error (self)</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medussa\asyncore.py", line 421, in handle_error self.close()</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\HTTPServer.py", line 293, in close p.more() # free up resources held by producer</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\Producers.py", line 36, in more getattr(self.logger, self.method)(self.bytes)</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line 289, in log ' - %s [%s] "%s" %d %d "%s" "%s"\n' % (</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 247, in log self.logger.log  ('%s%s' % (ip, message))</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 77, in log self.write (message)</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 53, in write self.maybe_flush()</P>
<P>File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 65, in maybe_flush self.file.flush()</P>
<P>IOError: [Errno 91] Bad file descriptor</P>
<P>D:\IntranetSite></P>
<P>and my ZOPE is dead!</P>
<P>Now, I'm not a programmer. I'm just a solo IT person trying to maintain a moderately sized intranet within a small company. I have no idea how to recover from this error so that I get access to my ZOPE site again. Someone please help!</P>
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From sabaini@inode.at  Fri Dec 27 17:49:37 2002
From: sabaini@inode.at (peter sabaini)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:49:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Sudden ZOPE Error and Failure
In-Reply-To: <20021224194701.64994.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021224194701.64994.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E0C92B1.1050308@inode.at>

Hm the medusa logger is having problems opening its log file - sounds as 
if theres something up with your filesystem.

What system does your Zope run on - NT / 2000 / XP, fat32 or NTFS? Maybe 
the file is still locked due to some system malfunction? Did you check 
if theres space on the disk left? The log file in question is probably 
the Z2.log - is it still there and writeable?

hth,
peter.

Deb B. wrote:
> Please help. I haven't installed anything new today on my ZOPE server 
> (no products, no new objects/code, etc.) and only had to shut the server 
> down a few times due to another program's processes taking over the 
> machine. This has happened in the past but never without any impact on 
> ZOPE.
> 
> Now, when I start the server and try to log in to the 
> http://intranet:8080/manage pages, I get the following error and 
> ultimate failure:
> 
> <--there is a line(s) here that I cannot read in the DOS window but it 
> ends starting here-->
> 
> obj.handle_error()
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line 437, in 
> handle_error asynchat.async_chat.handle_error (self)
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medussa\asyncore.py", line 421, in 
> handle_error self.close()
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\HTTPServer.py", line 293, in close 
> p.more() # free up resources held by producer
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\Producers.py", line 36, in more 
> getattr(self.logger, self.method)(self.bytes)
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line 289, in log ' 
> - %s [%s] "%s" %d %d "%s" "%s"\n' % (
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 247, in log 
> self.logger.log  ('%s%s' % (ip, message))
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 77, in log 
> self.write (message)
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 53, in write 
> self.maybe_flush()
> 
> File "D:\IntranetSite\ZServer\medusa\logger.py", line 65, in maybe_flush 
> self.file.flush()
> 
> IOError: [Errno 91] Bad file descriptor
> 
> D:\IntranetSite>
> 
> and my ZOPE is dead!
> 
> Now, I'm not a programmer. I'm just a solo IT person trying to maintain 
> a moderately sized intranet within a small company. I have no idea how 
> to recover from this error so that I get access to my ZOPE site again. 
> Someone please help!
> 
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From muldrow@mac.com  Fri Dec 27 17:44:37 2002
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:44:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Sudden ZOPE Error and Failure
In-Reply-To: <3E0C92B1.1050308@inode.at>
Message-ID: <DE7F319F-19C2-11D7-B41B-000393849E6A@mac.com>

I agree with peter--sounds like the log file can't be written. If 
you've got disk space available (so you know the log's not full), try 
moving Z2.log to another directory and try to restart the Zope. It 
should create a fresh Z2.log on starting.
On Friday, December 27, 2002, at 12:49 PM, peter sabaini wrote:

> Hm the medusa logger is having problems opening its log file - sounds 
> as if theres something up with your filesystem.
>
> What system does your Zope run on - NT / 2000 / XP, fat32 or NTFS? 
> Maybe the file is still locked due to some system malfunction? Did you 
> check if theres space on the disk left? The log file in question is 
> probably the Z2.log - is it still there and writeable?
>
> hth,
> peter.

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 18:55:36 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:55:36 +0100
Subject: dtml-in question (was: Re: [Zope] (no subject))
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9701662@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9701662@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <15884.41512.590669.988223@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

McDonnell, Larry wrote at 2002-12-23 16:02 -0500:
 > I have a small problem. In the code below I can display the information but
 > I would like to create a link on of the one variables. A link is established
 > but each link hold the last variable value in it. Is there a simple way to
 > do this?? Thanks in advance.
Please read the documention about "dtml-in" (e.g. in the Zope book
or

<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

Watch out for "sequence-item".

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 19:34:27 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:34:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] n-step product initialization
In-Reply-To: <3E0B69A0.8030203@neurobs.com>
References: <3E0B69A0.8030203@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15884.43843.797772.283552@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2002-12-26 12:42 -0800:
 > I am writing a db based product and need a 3 step initialization for it. 
 > In the first step the users specify the db and other params. based on 
 > that they are presented with a choice of tables that they select and 
 > based on step 2 they then specify some more params.
 > 
 > How do I go about doing something like that??
For an example, look at the "ZnolkWizzard" (or similarly named).

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 19:38:52 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:38:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax help
In-Reply-To: <3E0BCBCF.90103@horse101.com>
References: <3E0BCBCF.90103@horse101.com>
Message-ID: <15884.44108.341506.717233@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Sean Kelley wrote at 2002-12-26 19:41 -0800:
 >  I need help with dtml syntax...
 > I have the following line before a dtml-in on a catalog:
 > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','on')">
 > I want to be able to list only items where Verified is not set to 'on'  
 > The default value of verified is no value at all.  If I say:
 > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','')">
 > (empty value)  I get everything.  
 > 
 > How does one say Verified = to NOT 'on' in dtml?
ZCatalog wants to do the right thing with search forms with several
fields. It wants to interprete an empty field as "ignore this field".

Because of this, it forgets about subqueries where the query value is
''.

Chris already told you about a workaround...

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 19:00:32 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:00:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Fwd: Help with Prototype and CMF
In-Reply-To: <8a2f31b4c693446682c971304a72c14f.yuba@cyberback.com>
References: <8a2f31b4c693446682c971304a72c14f.yuba@cyberback.com>
Message-ID: <15884.41808.616612.33927@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

"" wrote at 2002-12-24 13:23 -0600:
 > I have worked through the prototype in "The Zope Bible" and have run into trouble while creating my first "real" application.  I am working on a web based product to aid volunteer fire departments manage their administrative work.  I have based my class "Departments" on the "Entry" Classi n the AddressBook prototype and can add and delete departments as expected (getting them to list to the screen).  My problem is that when I "click" a department, instead of getting the expected departmentDetails screen, I get an error saying the Departmetns has an empty or missing Doc string.
All methods accessed directly via the Web must have a so called
"Doc string".

This is a string as first expression inside the function
definition. The methods your showed us have had doc strings but
they are not relevant for the described problem.

Find the method that lacks the doc string and add it.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 19:41:10 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:41:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbie SIte Map Question
In-Reply-To: <VA.00001aeb.00a3ce48@xfr.co.uk>
References: <VA.00001aeb.00a3ce48@xfr.co.uk>
Message-ID: <15884.44246.108401.272809@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Philip Kilner wrote at 2002-12-27 12:53 GMT:
 > I'm trying to get a site map working as described by MWR at : -
 > 
 >    http://www.zope.org/Members/mwr/python_zpt_sitemap_zen
 > 
 > I'm not having much luck - partly due to my general igorance, partly, 
 > more specifically, because this example uses ZPT which I am not up to 
 > speed with. I have created the script and the page template as 
 > described in the HOWTO, and - since I am using VHM - I am also using 
 > the "getSiteRoot" script as descibed at: -
 > 
 >    http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zpt/2001-September/002063.html
 > 
 > I'm not at all sure if this script is behaving - when I test it, I get 
 > : -
 > 
 >    Resource not found
 > 
 >    Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
 >    Check the URL and try again.
 > 
 >    Resource: Folder instance at 0133A270"
It returns an instance (a folder instance) rather than a string.
Zope reports this a bit wicked (as you see above).

> When I attempt to acccess the site map I get: -
 > 
 >    Error Type: TALESError
 >    Error Value: exceptions.AttributeError on list_pages in '', at line 
 > 54, column 7
In line 54, you call "list_pages" on an object that does not have
(and does not acquire) such an attribute.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 19:03:47 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:03:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How many acl_users can I have
In-Reply-To: <1040917200.3e0b22d07a600@epost.kvalito.no>
References: <1040917200.3e0b22d07a600@epost.kvalito.no>
Message-ID: <15884.42003.988930.892081@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

borge@tsar.no wrote at 2002-12-26 16:40 +0100:
 > ...
 > As I have understood it, each user in zope is an
 > object. And with 10.000 such objects it is obvious
 > that I should keep each object as small as possible.
 > My initial idea is thus to store most of the
 > information on each user somewhere else than on the
 > object, for instance in an sql database. The system
 > should then work something like this:
Personally, I would not feel safe with more than a few thousand
users. I would try to move users out into a database or LDAP directory.

But, you can easily make some tests.
Create (programmatically) many users and see what happens.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Dec 27 19:35:53 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:35:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] tales expressions issue
In-Reply-To: <20021226160838.E17962@asu.edu>
References: <20021226160838.E17962@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <15884.43929.846108.685293@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David Bear wrote at 2002-12-26 16:08 -0700:
 > I have a formulator form with 12 form objects -- some text boxes, some check boxes, etc.  There are 3 multicheckbox objects that want to populate with objects from a folder object.  Ergo, I have a multicheckbox objects called department, population, and institution.  I also have folder objects by the SAME name at the same level in the zope heirarchy as the formulator form.  I have a python script called listTitles also.
 > 
 > Now the strange thing happens when I use a python expression in to populate each of the above mention checkbox fields.  I use "python:form.department.listTitles()" to populatre the department formulator object.  It works.  I use "python:form.population()" to populate the populatio formulator object -- it does NOT work.  Same thing for institution.  
I see

"python:form.department.listTitles()"		works
  "python:form.population()"			does not

For me, these are quite different....

Dieter

From sean@horse101.com  Fri Dec 27 21:35:46 2002
From: sean@horse101.com (Sean Kelley)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:35:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml syntax help
References: <3E0BCBCF.90103@horse101.com> <3E0C3FC9.70406@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E0CC7B2.7030907@horse101.com>

Great, the last "polluted" choice works well.  I really do need to spend 
some time with ZPT.
Thanks for the quick and functional response now.
Sean

Chris Withers wrote:

> Sean Kelley wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I need help with dtml syntax...
>
>
> ...learn ZPT ;-)
>
>> I have the following line before a dtml-in on a catalog:
>> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','on')">
>> I want to be able to list only items where Verified is not set to 
>> 'on'  The default value of verified is no value at all.  If I say:
>> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('Verified','')">
>> (empty value)  I get everything. How does one say Verified = to NOT 
>> 'on' in dtml?
>
>
> This has nothing to do with DTML, it is a catalog question.
> If 'Verified' can either be '' or 'on', then your search can be 
> achieved with:
>
> your_catalog(Verified=('',))
> ...or:
> REQUEST.set('Verified',('',))
> ...but I don't like seeing that. Doing that polutes the REQUEST and is 
> rarely necessary or a good idea.
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>

From cquinn@fishAbility.biz  Fri Dec 27 23:34:41 2002
From: cquinn@fishAbility.biz (Cliff Quinn)
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:34:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Packing date screwed up
Message-ID: <3E0C7311.9375.179A3E0@localhost>

I can't pack my database because at some point, with the machine time 
set at 2008 (don't ask) it was packed. How can I force this, or change the 
database date. I tried using the fsrecover, which tells me the dates are out 
of sequence, but doesn't do anything about it. I found a similar problem in 
the list archives, but no answer to it.

>Error Type: FileStorageError
>Error Value: The database has already been packed to a later time or no 
changes have been made since the last pack

(Zope 2.6.0 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) 
running on WIN98 (please don't laugh).

Thanks!

============================================
fishAbility: Cliff Quinn and Sam Quinn
Victoria, BC, Canada (250) 727-7879
http://www.fishAbility.biz/

From klima@belsoft.by  Sat Dec 28 13:25:36 2002
From: klima@belsoft.by (Klimovich Alexander)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:25:36 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Change current path in External Method
Message-ID: <F966D3A76929DC44BCC4D40020908787210E7D@minsksrv.belsoft.by>

Hi there!

Can anyone tell me how to change system current folder using
python methods?
E.g. 'os.getcwd()' returns current folder,
I need function like 'os.setcwd(path)'?

Are there any ways to do it ?

Sincerely yours,
Alexander Y. Klimovich

From jo@meder.de  Sat Dec 28 13:38:25 2002
From: jo@meder.de (Jo Meder)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:38:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change current path in External Method
In-Reply-To: <F966D3A76929DC44BCC4D40020908787210E7D@minsksrv.belsoft.by>
References: <F966D3A76929DC44BCC4D40020908787210E7D@minsksrv.belsoft.by>
Message-ID: <20021228133825.GA32290@meder.de>

Am 28.12.2002, 14:25 Uhr
	schräb Klimovich Alexander <klima@belsoft.by>:

> Can anyone tell me how to change system current folder using
> python methods?

Actually the best source for questions like this is <gasp> the python
documentation: http://www.python.org/doc/

> E.g. 'os.getcwd()' returns current folder,
> I need function like 'os.setcwd(path)'?

How about os.chdir(path)?

See http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/lib.html and in this case
especially http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/os-file-dir.html

Jo.

From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Dec 28 19:14:09 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:14:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change current path in External Method
In-Reply-To: <F966D3A76929DC44BCC4D40020908787210E7D@minsksrv.belsoft.by>
References: <F966D3A76929DC44BCC4D40020908787210E7D@minsksrv.belsoft.by>
Message-ID: <15885.63489.608247.228676@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Klimovich Alexander wrote at 2002-12-28 15:25 +0200:
 > Can anyone tell me how to change system current folder using
 > python methods?
 > E.g. 'os.getcwd()' returns current folder,
 > I need function like 'os.setcwd(path)'?
Do *NOT* do this in a multi-threaded application (such as Zope)!

The current working directory is process global, shared by all
  threads.

Think what fine things can happen when it is changed concurrently
  by different threads...

When you really need it, you must carefully use locks to prevent
concurrent modification.

But a better way is to prefix the needed path yourself to your
filenames.

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Dec 28 19:21:30 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:21:30 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Packing date screwed up
In-Reply-To: <3E0C7311.9375.179A3E0@localhost>
References: <3E0C7311.9375.179A3E0@localhost>
Message-ID: <15885.63930.791805.176446@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Cliff Quinn wrote at 2002-12-27 15:34 -0800:
 > I can't pack my database because at some point, with the machine time 
 > set at 2008 (don't ask) it was packed. How can I force this, or change the 
 > database date. I tried using the fsrecover, which tells me the dates are out 
 > of sequence, but doesn't do anything about it. I found a similar problem in 
 > the list archives, but no answer to it.
 > 
 > >Error Type: FileStorageError
 > >Error Value: The database has already been packed to a later time or no 
 > changes have been made since the last pack
 > 
 > (Zope 2.6.0 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, win32) 
 > running on WIN98 (please don't laugh).
Your problem is probably bigger than you expect:

You probably also have transactions in the future.

When you can, I would see whether the latest backup can be used written
when the time was still normal.

When this is not possible, I would use "tranalyzer" (maybe slightly
differently spelled) to analyse the "Data.fs" and see how much
staff comes with an wicked date and how much I would lose when I would
cut the file to a safe limit.

After that, I would search (using Zope's "Find" with a copy of the
old "Data.fs") for the objects changed in the future and
more the changes back (when they were not too many).

If all were unfeasible, I would look at the source of
"ZODB.fsrecover". It copies a "Data.fs" and repairs corrupt pieces.
Certainly, it could be modified to salvage strange transaction times.

Dieter

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Sat Dec 28 22:02:59 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:02:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6
In-Reply-To: <3E0C3EFD.2030900@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDLICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

I had tried clearing the browser cache and deleting all cookies and the
problem persists.  I did have an active access rule which I cleared, but the
problem is still there.  Any more ideas anyone?

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Chris
Withers
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 6:52 AM
To: Kevin Carlson
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6

I'm betting you've got a cookie lying around and maybe a funky access rule
of
some sort...

Chris

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> I upgraded to Zope 2.6 recently and when I log onto the server via
> http://staticip:8080 I get access but the left-hand frame of the ZMI is
> already expanded and "pointing" to a now deleted instance of a CMF.  What
> happens is that I get a page not found error in the right-hand frame.  I
can
> click on the left-hand frame and navigate successfully after that, but it
is
> a bit strange (and aggravating to a degree) that I get this behavior when
> others utilizing the system do not.
>
> Any ideas as to why this is happening?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
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From mawebb@rocketmail.com  Sat Dec 28 23:02:44 2002
From: mawebb@rocketmail.com (Malcolm Webb)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:02:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Re: Can't connect to Zope after initial install...
Message-ID: <20021228230244.96904.qmail@web12501.mail.yahoo.com>

Adam Manock's advice to check my ipchains worked. Thanks!

--- Malcolm Webb <mawebb@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> I just installed Zope onto the following config:
> 
> -Redhat 7.1.2
> -gcc 2.96
> -python 2.1.3
> 
> My box is currently running Apache, and hosts 11 web sites (virtual
> hosts). The box has two ethernet cards and two static IPs.
> 
> It appears as though everything has installed correctly (no errors).
> I've created a "zope" user and chmod'ed all the files in the zope
> directory.
> 
> When I run the "start" script, it says that the Zserver has been
> started and is listening on port 8080. But then when I try to connect
> using a standard web browser, I get a "connection refused" error.
> 
> This happens even if I turn off Apache.
> 
> According to "netstat", something is listening on port 8080.
> 
> But nothing is being written to the log file, and I can't connect.
> 
> Can anyone offer some advice?
> 
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From huzzaboo@yahoo.com  Sun Dec 29 03:21:46 2002
From: huzzaboo@yahoo.com (huzza boo)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 19:21:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] objectValues not working below root
Message-ID: <20021229032146.76124.qmail@web80307.mail.yahoo.com>

Greetings, all.  I'm a newcomer to Zope, having just
installed 2.6.0 on Linux, and working through several
of the examples.  I do have years of experience on
other platforms, however.  I am attempting to put
together a rather quick and simple document repository
for my development team.  Here's my issue, forgive me,
I suspect it's a newbie one, but I could not find an
answer after 25 minutes of searching.

I've created a test folder below the root, and within
it placed two more folders.  I'm simply trying to get
the subfolders to display in my index_html document in
my first test root folder.  I'm using:

< ul>
< dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')">
< li>< dtml-var title_or_id>
< /dtml-in>
< /ul>

...and getting nothing but empty ul tags.

If I try this at the absolute root, it works.  In any
sub folder, it does not.

I've created no acl_users below root, and I'm working
as Admin, so I don't think this is a privileges
problem.

This has got to be something simple that I'm just not
seeing.  Any help is appreciated.

Martin

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From muldrow@mac.com  Sun Dec 29 04:07:16 2002
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 23:07:16 -0500
Subject: [Zope] objectValues not working below root
In-Reply-To: <20021229032146.76124.qmail@web80307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0457A2D6-1AE3-11D7-BA13-000393849E6A@mac.com>

Make sure you're making an index_html DTML Method, not a DTML Document. 
A Document will try to list all the Folder names inside the document 
object, which of course doesn't have any folder objects inside it. A 
method will list the folder objects inside its parents. (The index at 
the absolute root has to be a method, which is why it probably works). 
If anyone knows a good source to explain this particular bit of Zen, 
let me know--I figure my explanation isn't exactly eloquent, but I'm 
from the hills of South Carolina and thus have an excuse.
--Chris
On Saturday, December 28, 2002, at 10:21 PM, huzza boo wrote:

> < ul>
> < dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')">
> < li>< dtml-var title_or_id>
> < /dtml-in>
> < /ul>

From willem@pastelhorn.com  Sun Dec 29 14:32:50 2002
From: willem@pastelhorn.com (Willem Broekema)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 15:32:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
Message-ID: <3E0F0792.7090005@pastelhorn.com>

Hi all - I'm trying to resolve ConflictErrors in my Product. It might be 
relevant that the product is derived from 'Folder'.

I created a '_p_resolveConflict' function that prints the three state 
parameters, 'old', 'saved' and 'new'.

I was surprised to see that the printed representation of the three 
states was identical: the data inside 'PR(...) was the same for every 
subobject. Also, 'oldstate == savedstate' was true, but not 'oldState == 
newState' or 'oldState is savedState'.

I would like to know what's going on here. For example, if 'oldState == 
newState', can I safely assume that newState is correct and there's no 
need to merge changes (which changes?) between oldState and savedState?

Now follows the printed state, in case that may help explaining this. 
The 'Feed' insances in the folder are named feed_###.

state == {
    'feed_view__doc__': 'dummy',
    '__ac_local_roles__': {'wilm': ['Owner']},
    'index_html__doc__': 'dummy',
    '_owner': (['acl_users'], 'wilm'),
    'cookie_name': 'DF_cat_skin',
    'title': '',
    'id': 'cat',
    'nav_frame__doc__': 'dummy',

'feed_902912': PR(164726636 ('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\r\x0e',
       ('Products.DogFeed.DFFeed', 'Feed'))),
   'feed_070984': PR(164727028 ('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\r\x0f',
       ('Products.DogFeed.DFFeed', 'Feed'))),
   [...]

'_objects': (
     {'meta_type': 'DogFeed RSS Feed', 'id': 'feed_902912'},
     {'meta_type': 'DogFeed RSS Feed', 'id': 'feed_070984'},
     [...]
    )
}

Thanks.

- Willem

From stefan@epy.co.at  Sun Dec 29 18:09:15 2002
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:09:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <3E0F0792.7090005@pastelhorn.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212291845470.24508-100000@phoenix>

Just in case you haven't yet make sure to read this:
<http://www.zope.org/Members/jim/ZODB/ApplicationLevelConflictResolution>

To answer your question, savedState and newState are the ones competing
for "final" state. Do not get confused by the (badly chosen) parameter
names ;-). Your job is to resolve this conflict by e.g.

intermediateState = merge(oldState, savedState)
finalState = merge(intermediateState, newState)
return finalState

Stefan

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Willem Broekema wrote:

> Hi all - I'm trying to resolve ConflictErrors in my Product. It might be
> relevant that the product is derived from 'Folder'.
>
> I created a '_p_resolveConflict' function that prints the three state
> parameters, 'old', 'saved' and 'new'.
>
> I was surprised to see that the printed representation of the three
> states was identical: the data inside 'PR(...) was the same for every
> subobject. Also, 'oldstate == savedstate' was true, but not 'oldState ==
> newState' or 'oldState is savedState'.
>
> I would like to know what's going on here. For example, if 'oldState ==
> newState', can I safely assume that newState is correct and there's no
> need to merge changes (which changes?) between oldState and savedState?
>

From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Dec 29 18:20:29 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:20:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <3E0F0792.7090005@pastelhorn.com>
References: <3E0F0792.7090005@pastelhorn.com>
Message-ID: <15887.15597.317003.833714@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Willem Broekema wrote at 2002-12-29 15:32 +0100:
 > I'm trying to resolve ConflictErrors in my Product. It might be 
 > relevant that the product is derived from 'Folder'.
I have seen a good documentation about conflict resolution
with a precise description of what the different parameters mean
and what you may and may not change.

Unfortunately, I do no longer know where. I would use Google
to find out again....

Dieter

From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Dec 29 18:17:53 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:17:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6
In-Reply-To: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDLICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
References: <3E0C3EFD.2030900@nipltd.com>
 <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDLICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <15887.15441.825104.570523@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Carlson wrote at 2002-12-28 17:02 -0500:
 > I had tried clearing the browser cache and deleting all cookies and the
 > problem persists.  I did have an active access rule which I cleared, but the
 > problem is still there.  Any more ideas anyone?
*Whenever* you see strange things with Zope, it is a good idea
to activate Zope logging (--> "doc/LOGGING.txt") and look into
the log file.

I expect your problem to be caused by either:

*  a product no longer working

*  a ZClass no longer working (there is a problem reported in
     the mailing list archive together with a way to get rid of it)

Dieter

From willem@pastelhorn.com  Sun Dec 29 18:42:56 2002
From: willem@pastelhorn.com (Willem Broekema)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:42:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212291845470.24508-100000@phoenix>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212291845470.24508-100000@phoenix>
Message-ID: <3E0F4230.2090302@pastelhorn.com>

Stefan H. Holek wrote:
> To answer your question, savedState and newState are the ones competing
> for "final" state. Do not get confused by the (badly chosen) parameter
> names ;-). Your job is to resolve this conflict by e.g.
> 
> intermediateState = merge(oldState, savedState)
> finalState = merge(intermediateState, newState)
> return finalState

I understand that, in theory. :-)

In practise, I saw that oldState and savedState were equal. I don't see 
  the conflict. Therefore, I don't know how to 'merge' the states.

Can I assume there is no real conflict then, and return the newState?

BTW, I made a typo in my previous post:

willem wrote:
 > 'oldstate == savedstate'
 > [...]
 > I would like to know what's going on here. For example, if 'oldState
 > == newState', can I safely assume that newState is correct and
 > there's no need to merge changes (which changes?) between oldState
 > and savedState?

I meant 'oldState == savedState' here, referring to the part above. Not 
'oldSate == newState'.

- Willem

From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <geirh@funcom.com>  Sun Dec 29 19:27:56 2002
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <geirh@funcom.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 20:27:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Idiom for accessing restricted capabilities
In-Reply-To: <003401c2adbd$a7d93790$94c65140@PAVILION>
References: <003401c2adbd$a7d93790$94c65140@PAVILION>
Message-ID: <245766321.20021229202756@funcom.com>

Hello Andrew,

Friday, December 27, 2002, 4:35:54 PM, you wrote:

> Your suggestion to use proxy roles implies a scheme whereby either
> http://zope/protected/method is called through another method that adds
> the appropriate role via its proxy mechanism, or is itself set to proxy
> to the required role.  The issue with this is that the proxy role is set
> at invoke time, instead of by logic within the method.
 
> A.

set /zope/protected/method to be only accessible by managers.

make  /zope/public/invoker a pythonscript that has proxy role of
manager.

then you can do all your logic in your pythonscript, and have it
return a pagetemplate suiting your needs :

# script that invokes logic
if (all_prerequisites_are_ok):
     zope.protected.method()
     context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect('/zope/checked_out')
else:
     return context.form_or_whatever_you_want_template()

this way, no one (except managers) can access /zope/protected/method
unless through /zope/public/invoker, which seems to be what you want..
- And you can check for your cookies aswell, but not as ugly as it
would be in a template...

-- 
Geir Bækholt        geir@funcom.com
Tools/HCI-developer
Tools/Billing - Product Operations
Funcom Oslo

From =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?= <Bjorge@Kvarteret.no>  Sun Dec 29 20:31:19 2002
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?= <Bjorge@Kvarteret.no> (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rge_Solli?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:31:19 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] SimpleUserFolder and sha-crypted passwd
In-Reply-To: <3E0C44E4.7090905@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212292104420.16300-100000@vipe.ii.uib.no>

Hi again

On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Chris Withers wrote:
> Adam Manock wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 05:23, BjÃ¸rge Solli wrote:
> >>I want to put my old loginmanager to rest and put something simple in. 
> >>SimpleUserFolder sounds nice, but it seems to do the password matching 
> >>itself, and since I have sha-crypted passwords, I need to match the 
> >>passwords in encrypted format. Any ideas? If none, can u please tell me to 
> >>*not* use SimpleUserFolder(perhaps you have an alternative as well?).
> 
> Have you tried it? It might just work on its own ;-)

It works fine if I use only sql with the easy table from createTable.sql 
and I copy all the tests/*.sql into my folder where the SUF-object is. I 
can also change the getUsers so it gets my correct users. But my roles are 
stored in different tables, and I have no good way of making a query 
returning on the format SUF understands(my sql-expert is working on it 
though;-) So what I have been trying is to make a pythonscript returning a 
dictionary on the prefered form; 
{'password':########, 'roles':[role1,role2]}
In addition to this problem my encryption is different than the one normal 
userfolder standard, so I also change the encryption(basically I unhexlify 
it and encode it with binascii.b2a_base64. I also add the prefix '{SHA}' 
to the password after changing it.

>From /lib/python/AccessControl/AuthEncoding.py I find that the SHA-scheme 
looks like this:
class SHADigestScheme:

def encrypt(self, pw):
        return b2a_base64(sha.new(pw).digest())[:-1]

def validate(self, reference, attempt):
        compare = b2a_base64(sha.new(attempt).digest())[:-1]
        return (compare == reference)

registerScheme('SHA', SHADigestScheme())

I encrypt the password in this way:
	crypted = sha.new(plaintext).hexdigest()

I change the passwords I get from my database in this way:
	prefiks = '{SHA}'
        passord = binascii.b2a_base64(binascii.unhexlify(crypted))[:-1]
	passwd = '%s%s' %(prefiks,passord)

But this does not work! I really don't understand why!

I also include the full sourcecode of my getUserDetails, it is partly 
written in norwegian, but u should understand everything important(many 
similar words). Parameter List: self, name

import binascii

student = 0
KursMedArbeider = 0
KursAns = 0
StudieVeileder = 0
passwd = ''
roller = []

#finner passordet	prefiks = '{SHA}'
        passord = binascii.b2a_base64(binascii.unhexlify(kryptert))[:-1]
	passwd = '%s%s' %(prefiks,passord)
kryptertTab = self.SQL_findPasswd(email=name)
for i in kryptertTab:
	kryptert = i[1]
	prefiks = '{SHA}'
        passord = binascii.b2a_base64(binascii.unhexlify(kryptert))[:-1]
	passwd = '%s%s' %(prefiks,passord)
        #passwd = passord

if passwd == '':
	name = 'Anonymous User'

#Sjekker om det er mr. anonymous :)
if name == 'Anonymous User':
	roller.append('Anonymous')
	ret = {'password':passwd, 'roles':roller}
	return ret
else:
	student = 1

# Sjekker om personen har roller fra personEmne
rolleTab = self.SQL_RolesFromPersonEmne(email=name)

for i in rolleTab:
	rolle = i[1]
   	if rolle == 'KursMedArbeider':
		KursMedArbeider = 1
	if rolle == 'KursAns':
		KursAns = 1

# Sjekker om personen har roller fra et institutt
studieveilederTab = self.SQL_isStudieveileder(epost=name)

for i in studieveilederTab:
	StudieVeileder = 1

rolleTab = self.SQL_RolesFromPersonRolle(email=name)
for i in rolleTab:
	roller.append(i[1])

if student:
	roller.append('student')
if KursMedArbeider:
	roller.append('KursMedArbeider')
if KursAns:
	roller.append('KursAns')
if StudieVeileder:
	roller.append('StudieVeileder')

#slaa sammen svaret til en dict
ret = {'password':passwd, 'roles':roller}

return ret

(yes importing binascii works!)

Hope u see a terrible mistake I have done right away;-)

One question I have asked is if it is possible to mix sql and py(?).

And if u really do bother reading all this and help me, I am really 
greatfull!

cheers
Bjorge

> Take a look in lib/python/AccessControl/AuthEncoding.py and see if your SHA 
> stuff is supported there. If it is, Zope's normal userfolder stuff (and 
> therefore SUF too) will use it if it can...
> 
> Lemme know how you get on, I'll help if things need changing to make it work...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
>

From stefan@epy.co.at  Sun Dec 29 20:46:32 2002
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:46:32 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <3E0F4230.2090302@pastelhorn.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212292029060.24508-100000@phoenix>

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Willem Broekema wrote:
> Stefan H. Holek wrote:
> > To answer your question, savedState and newState are the ones competing
> > for "final" state. Do not get confused by the (badly chosen) parameter
> > names ;-). Your job is to resolve this conflict by e.g.
> >
> > intermediateState = merge(oldState, savedState)
> > finalState = merge(intermediateState, newState)
> > return finalState
>
> I understand that, in theory. :-)

Let me add that depending on your situation, *both* savedState and
newState may be "correct". If, say, the conflict is triggered by two
threads simultaneously adding new objects to your Folder, you will want
the final state to contain the subobjects from both these threads
(states).

> In practise, I saw that oldState and savedState were equal. I don't see
>   the conflict. Therefore, I don't know how to 'merge' the states.

There is no need to merge equal states.

> Can I assume there is no real conflict then, and return the newState?

Only if oldState == savedState == newState.

Stefan

From willem@pastelhorn.com  Sun Dec 29 22:04:08 2002
From: willem@pastelhorn.com (Willem Broekema)
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:04:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212292029060.24508-100000@phoenix>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212292029060.24508-100000@phoenix>
Message-ID: <3E0F7158.6080708@pastelhorn.com>

Stefan H. Holek wrote:
 >> In practise, I saw that oldState and savedState were equal. I don't
 >> see the conflict. Therefore, I don't know how to 'merge' the states.
 >
 > There is no need to merge equal states.

>> Can I assume there is no real conflict then, and return the newState?
 >
 > Only if oldState == savedState == newState.

In my case, oldState == savedState != newState. Your last statement 
implies there was some real conflict here, yet you also indicate there's 
nothing to merge.

As far as I understand it, the changes that led to newState were based 
on oldState. Because that foundation seems not to have changed, there's 
no inconsistency: newState if just fine.

I don't see what could or should be done in this case to "resolve" the 
"conflict", other than just ignoring it and returning newState.

Thanks so far,

- Willem

From luca@wetron.es  Mon Dec 30 08:20:53 2002
From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:20:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
Message-ID: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es>

I'm not really sure this is a problem but I have a feeling that it will 
bite me later on. Anyway..

I have defined a class that's both a container and has properties of its 
  own. The class (it's a CMF class) derives from SkinnedFolder, 
PortalContent and DefaultDublinCoreImpl.
The problem is that many of the attributes are only meaningful for the 
object itself, not for the contained objects. This doesn't really bother 
me, but I would like to avoid indexing (and putting in the metadata) 
these attributes.
So, I cannot use attributes starting with _ to stop acquisition since 
this would preclude putting them in the index/metadata.
I cannot use Aquisition.explicit since I have no control on the 
contained objects (in fact the purpose of having a class deriving on 
SkinnedFolder is to use existing types as content).
I've tried, with no success, the following:

class MyClass(SkinnedFolder, PortalContent, DefaultDublinCoreImpl):

....
    ....

def MyAttr(self):
       if not isinstance(aq_base(self),MyClass):
          return None
       ....
       ....

No success because when the method gets called self is an instance of 
MyClass, so the method never returns None.

Any hint?

TIA

-- 
Luca Olivetti
Wetron Automatización S.A. http://www.wetron.es/
Tel. +34 93 5883004      Fax +34 93 5883007

From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Mon Dec 30 08:59:44 2002
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:59:44 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Packing date screwed up
In-Reply-To: <15885.63930.791805.176446@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E0C7311.9375.179A3E0@localhost> <15885.63930.791805.176446@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200212300859.44890.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Saturday 28 December 2002 7:21 pm, Dieter Maurer wrote:

> Your problem is probably bigger than you expect:
>
>   You probably also have transactions in the future.

Have many other people been affected by this? ZODB could be changed to=20
validate the system clock by comparing it to the time of the last=20
transaction. If the difference is longer than some threshold (4 weeks fee=
ls=20
about right) them it would conclude that it is more likely that the syste=
m=20
clock is wrong, and refuse to issue any new timestamps at the current tim=
e=20
without external confirmation.

--=20
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Mon Dec 30 09:22:53 2002
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:22:53 +0000
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <3E0F4230.2090302@pastelhorn.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212291845470.24508-100000@phoenix> <3E0F4230.2090302@pastelhorn.com>
Message-ID: <200212300922.53808.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Sunday 29 December 2002 6:42 pm, Willem Broekema wrote:

> I understand that, in theory. :-)
>
> In practise, I saw that oldState and savedState were equal. I don't see
>   the conflict. Therefore, I don't know how to 'merge' the states.
>
> Can I assume there is no real conflict then, and return the newState?

Yes, in theory. Out of the two transactions that ZODB thinks are competin=
g, it=20
it possible that one of them was caused simply by a self._p_changed (or=20
equivalent) and there really was no 'state' change.

> In practise, I saw that oldState and savedState were equal.=20

I think it would be wise to investigate the cause of this no-change=20
transaction before assuming this observation is correct.

--=20
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Dec 30 11:39:57 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:39:57 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6
References: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEDLICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3E10308D.1020001@nipltd.com>

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> I had tried clearing the browser cache and deleting all cookies and the
> problem persists.  I did have an active access rule which I cleared, but the
> problem is still there.  Any more ideas anyone?

What did the access rule do? Was there an Apache side of things involved? Have 
you tried going direct to Zope rather than through Apache?

cheers,

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Dec 30 11:46:38 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 11:46:38 +0000
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
References: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es>
Message-ID: <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com>

Luca Olivetti wrote:
> No success because when the method gets called self is an instance of 
> MyClass, so the method never returns None.

I would index the actual attribute, I'd index something called 
index_yourattributename. Then define a method called 'index_yourattributename' 
as follows:

return getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename')

...and if you're really paranoid, make 'index_yourattributename' an external method:

from Acquisition import aq_base

def index_yourattributename(self):
   return getattr(aq_base(self),'yourattributename')

cheers,

Chris

From stefan@epy.co.at  Mon Dec 30 11:50:06 2002
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:50:06 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] using _p_resolveConflict on Folderish object
In-Reply-To: <3E0F7158.6080708@pastelhorn.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212292346010.25726-100000@phoenix>

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Willem Broekema wrote:

> In my case, oldState == savedState != newState. Your last statement
> implies there was some real conflict here, yet you also indicate there's
> nothing to merge.

Ugh, savedState != newState is exactly the conflict we are talking about.

The params should probably have been named newState1 and newState2. Both
are equally good (or bad) results of the current transaction. The naming
may have led you to the assumption that newState is somehow preferable to
savedState. It is not. newState is what you wanted to commit, savedState
is what another thread wanted to commit.

Note also that it's not about selecting a state to return, but about
actually computing a new one, given two equally valid, conflicting,
new states, and the state you started from for reference.

> As far as I understand it, the changes that led to newState were based
> on oldState. Because that foundation seems not to have changed, there's
> no inconsistency: newState if just fine.

The changes that led to savedState very likely were based on oldState as
well. Point is that savedState is just as "fine" an outcome. This is what
you are resolving after all.

Stefan

From intranetdeb@yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 13:26:45 2002
From: intranetdeb@yahoo.com (Deb B.)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 05:26:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Sudden ZOPE Error and Failure
In-Reply-To: <DE7F319F-19C2-11D7-B41B-000393849E6A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20021230132645.71312.qmail@web13006.mail.yahoo.com>

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Thank you, thank you, thank you...both Peter and Chris. Your diagnosis was accurate and it works now. Thank goodness for this list. :-)
 Chris Muldrow <muldrow@mac.com> wrote:I agree with peter--sounds like the log file can't be written. If 
you've got disk space available (so you know the log's not full), try 
moving Z2.log to another directory and try to restart the Zope. It 
should create a fresh Z2.log on starting.
On Friday, December 27, 2002, at 12:49 PM, peter sabaini wrote:

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<P>Thank you, thank you, thank you...both Peter and Chris. Your diagnosis was accurate and it works now. Thank goodness for this list. :-)
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From elena.schulz@gmx.net  Mon Dec 30 14:00:23 2002
From: elena.schulz@gmx.net (Elena Schulz)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:00:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CMFCore.DirectoryView
Message-ID: <002001c2b00c$b2f6a580$fe78a8c0@PCA>

Hi,

I try to connect ZPT to my local Filesytem. Previouesly I used localFS and
DTML which worked nicely. But according to an earlier post by Dieter I
learned that I should use DirectoryView from the CMFCore now.

But thats not so easy as I found.
Does the registration have to be done on every serverstart again? (How to
automate it if so?)
How to add new extensions and metatypes?

Up to now I succeeded to register an arbitrary Directory on my local FS and
different MetaTypes with the external Method given below. But a
corresponding klass has to be given for the registration. How to do that
using classes like the 'FSObject' return bad file error when I try to view
the object in ZMI.

Does anybody know about that? (Or how to use local FS under ZPT?)

-- many thanks for your replies, Elena

the code:

from Products.CMFCore import FSObject
from Products.CMFCore import DirectoryView
DV=DirectoryView

def registerLocalDir (my_dir='my_absolute_FS_path', prefix="",
extList=['css', 'js'], metaList=['Style Sheet'], subdirs=0):

DV.registerDirectory(my_dir, prefix, subdirs)
 klass=FSObject
 for ext in extList:
  DV.registerFileExtension(ext, klass)
 for mt in metaList:
  DV.registerMetaType(mt, klass)
 return

From reinoud.v@n.leeuwen.net  Mon Dec 30 14:51:03 2002
From: reinoud.v@n.leeuwen.net (Reinoud van Leeuwen)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:51:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] mount backup ZODB (readonly)
Message-ID: <20021230155103.G15734@spoetnik.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

I have a backup of a Zope instance on my disc. I want to get a tree of 
objects from that backup into my current zope server. Now I could bring 
zope down, switch the data.fs files, start Zope up, export it en switch 
back and import it.

But I was wondering whether it is possible to mount another data.fs file 
(readonly) so I can do it in my running zope. I browsed through the 
products but I did not find anything.

TIA,
Reinoud

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From luca@wetron.es  Mon Dec 30 14:57:07 2002
From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:57:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
In-Reply-To: <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com>
References: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es> <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E105EC3.4070602@wetron.es>

Chris Withers wrote:

Thanks! you put me on the right track

> I would index the actual attribute, I'd index something called

s/would/wouldn't/  I suppose ;-)

> index_yourattributename. Then define a method called 
> 'index_yourattributename' as follows:
> 
> return getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename')

Ok, the key is *not* to define the method inside the class.
To wrap it up in case someone searches the list:

1) define a python script somewhere in the acquisition path where the 
catalog  will pick it up. Since mine is a CMF Product I used the skin 
directory. Call it, e.g., index_yourattribute

2) the content of the script is

attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename')
if callable(attr): attr=attr()
return attr

3) define an index and/or metadata called like the python script 
(index_yourattribute)

4) enjoy :-)

Bye
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From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Dec 30 15:56:17 2002
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:56:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Change current path in External Method
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F760149AC1F@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Jo Meder]

> Am 28.12.2002, 14:25 Uhr
> 	schr=E4b Klimovich Alexander <klima@belsoft.by>:
>=20
> > Can anyone tell me how to change system current folder using python=20
> > methods?
>=20
> Actually the best source for questions like this is <gasp> the python
> documentation: http://www.python.org/doc/
>=20

However, I strongly suggest that you not actually change the current =
directory, since other modules will not know that you changed it.  If =
any of them depend on the actual value of the current working directory =
(shame on them!) they will be in trouble.

If you know the absolute path, just use that.  If you need a path =
relative to your module,  you can get the module to tell you where it =
(or its owing package) is located and construct paths relative to that - =
that too is in the Python docs. =20

The os library module has good functions for working with paths.  See =
the docs.

Cheers,

Tom P

From luca@wetron.es  Mon Dec 30 16:08:15 2002
From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:08:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
In-Reply-To: <3E105EC3.4070602@wetron.es>
References: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es> <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com> <3E105EC3.4070602@wetron.es>
Message-ID: <3E106F6F.4020801@wetron.es>

Luca Olivetti wrote:

> 
> 2) the content of the script is
> 
> attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename')

hmmm, change that to

attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename',())

if it is to be picked up by a keyword index

> if callable(attr): attr=attr()
> return attr

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From zopequest@yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 16:18:43 2002
From: zopequest@yahoo.com (Rob Boyd)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:18:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] cannot upload files on Win32 Zope
Message-ID: <20021230161843.48458.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,
I recently installed Zope 2.5.1 on Windows NT 4,
running as a service.  I discovered that any time I
try to upload a file through the ZMI, I get an error:
Error Type: IOError
Error Value: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'\\TEMP\\~278-10'

I don't have this problem on my Unix installations of
Zope nor on a Windows 98 installation. Ideas?

Thanks,
Rob

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From tino@wildenhain.de  Mon Dec 30 15:25:51 2002
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 16:25:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] mount backup ZODB (readonly)
In-Reply-To: <20021230155103.G15734@spoetnik.xs4all.nl>
References: <20021230155103.G15734@spoetnik.xs4all.nl>
Message-ID: <268863214.1041265551@liza>

Hi Reinoud,

--On Montag, 30. Dezember 2002 15:51 +0100 Reinoud van Leeuwen 
<reinoud.v@n.leeuwen.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a backup of a Zope instance on my disc. I want to get a tree of
> objects from that backup into my current zope server. Now I could bring
> zope down, switch the data.fs files, start Zope up, export it en switch
> back and import it.
>
> But I was wondering whether it is possible to mount another data.fs file
> (readonly) so I can do it in my running zope. I browsed through the
> products but I did not find anything.

You might consider DBTab:

http://hathaway.freezope.org/Software/DBTab

this works very well now.

Regards
Tino

From zopequest@yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 16:23:22 2002
From: zopequest@yahoo.com (Rob Boyd)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:23:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: DISREGARD:Re: [Zope] cannot upload files on Win32 Zope
In-Reply-To: <20021230161843.48458.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021230162322.4749.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com>

Please ignore previous post.  Zope is on a non-C
partition that did not have a temp directory, creating
the temp directory fixed problem. oops.

Rob

--- Rob Boyd <zopequest@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I recently installed Zope 2.5.1 on Windows NT 4,
> running as a service.  I discovered that any time I
> try to upload a file through the ZMI, I get an
> error:
> Error Type: IOError
> Error Value: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
> '\\TEMP\\~278-10'
> 
> I don't have this problem on my Unix installations
> of
> Zope nor on a Windows 98 installation. Ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
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From David.Bear@asu.edu  Mon Dec 30 16:40:52 2002
From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:40:52 -0700
Subject: [Zope] tales expressions issue
In-Reply-To: <15884.43929.846108.685293@gargle.gargle.HOWL>; from dieter@handshake.de on Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 08:35:53PM +0100
References: <20021226160838.E17962@asu.edu> <15884.43929.846108.685293@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20021230094052.B3781@asu.edu>

On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 08:35:53PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> David Bear wrote at 2002-12-26 16:08 -0700:
>  > I have a formulator form with 12 form objects -- some text boxes, some check boxes, etc.  There are 3 multicheckbox objects that want to populate with objects from a folder object.  Ergo, I have a multicheckbox objects called department, population, and institution.  I also have folder objects by the SAME name at the same level in the zope heirarchy as the formulator form.  I have a python script called listTitles also.
>  > 
>  > Now the strange thing happens when I use a python expression in to populate each of the above mention checkbox fields.  I use "python:form.department.listTitles()" to populatre the department formulator object.  It works.  I use "python:form.population()" to populate the populatio formulator object -- it does NOT work.  Same thing for institution.  
> I see
> 
>   "python:form.department.listTitles()"		works
>   "python:form.population()"			does not
> 
> For me, these are quite different....
>

sorry, my type.  it should be 
python:form.department.listTitles()
python:form.populations.listTitles()
etc..

> 
> Dieter

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From k_hamzat@yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 17:03:20 2002
From: k_hamzat@yahoo.com (Hamzat Kamal)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:03:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] a script or product to move Dtml files from one folder to another
Message-ID: <20021230170320.41975.qmail@web12701.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

Is there a product or script that can be used to move a Dtml files from
one folder to another? I want to be able to move a dtml file created after
24 hrs from active folder to a dormant folder.

Thanks.

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From jonathansamuel@yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 17:43:27 2002
From: jonathansamuel@yahoo.com (Jonathan Mark)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:43:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Are Lookups via DTML methods efficient?
Message-ID: <20021230174327.44762.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>

I have a list of easy-to-remember website names, and
hard-to-remember URLs. My goal is that when coding my
Zope site using DTML I should be able to refer to a
URL by its easy-to-remember website name.

I am thinking of creating a near-identical group of
DTML methods whose IDs are the website names and whose
titles are the URLs.

Each method would then return its own title.

Is this approach efficient? I could call a SQL
database instead, but I think that would be overkill
in this case. Also, opening up a connection for this
simple information might not be efficient either.

Should I use a field index on a catalogue instead?
Each website name would only have a single URL, so the
search would only return a single value.

Could there be an XML approach which might work well?
Ultimately I could have hundreds of URLs that I want
to call by website name.

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From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 30 17:43:17 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:43:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6 [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <3E10308D.1020001@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECIEEFICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

Thanks to everyone for their help in trying to figure this one out.  The
problem turned out to be Microsoft.  Really.

To be more explicit the problem was IE.  As it turns out, I was accessing
the machine through a shortcut in the Favorites menu on my Win2K laptop.  I
don't know what Microsoft stores in the shortcut file, but it is obviously
more than a URL.  When I recreated the shortcut, the problem went away.

Now to migrate my laptop to Linux and make the "other" Microsoft problems go
away...

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Chris
Withers
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:40 AM
To: Kevin Carlson
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Odd problem after upgrading to 2.6

Kevin Carlson wrote:
> I had tried clearing the browser cache and deleting all cookies and the
> problem persists.  I did have an active access rule which I cleared, but
the
> problem is still there.  Any more ideas anyone?

What did the access rule do? Was there an Apache side of things involved?
Have
you tried going direct to Zope rather than through Apache?

cheers,

Chris

From khcarlso@bellsouth.net  Mon Dec 30 17:58:55 2002
From: khcarlso@bellsouth.net (Kevin Carlson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:58:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] cannot upload files on Win32 Zope
In-Reply-To: <20021230161843.48458.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NABBJGPEEPNIICFIPMECCEEGICAA.khcarlso@bellsouth.net>

It looks as if there is a environment variable that needs setting.  Try:

set temp=c:\temp

then create the temp directory on c:

To test, restart zope from within the command window in which you set the
temp variable.

If this works, you'll want to modify the environment variables in the system
settings to make this persist. Hope this helps.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Rob
Boyd
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:19 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] cannot upload files on Win32 Zope

I don't have this problem on my Unix installations of
Zope nor on a Windows 98 installation. Ideas?

Thanks,
Rob

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From klaorman@yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 22:36:07 2002
From: klaorman@yahoo.com (Gordon Lai)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:36:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Creating Page Templates using XML-RPC
Message-ID: <20021230223607.39746.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm assisting another programmer who's using Zope to
create a new version of our website. I need to create
about 3000 relatively static pages (the actual content
is static, at least for a few months, until the next
time I update the pages; the content is surrounded by
a header, a footer, and a sidebar which may change
depending upon news announcements). I'm new to Zope
and just want to create the pages and then get out of
the other programmer's way.

For our old site I wrote a Python script that creates
these 3000 pages and use SSIs to pull in a header and
footer. I can do the same thing for the new site by
using macros to pull in Zope page elements. However,
I'm a bit confused as to how to do this. My questions:

* In looking through our site using the Zope manage
interface, it seems as though every page is
represented by a Page Template. Is this true? Do I
need to create 3000 Page Templates?

* If the previous is true, how do I create Page
Templates programmatically? It seems XML-RPC can work
for me, but I can't find an API to create Templates.
Does one exist, or should I be using a different
method?

Thanks for any assistance,
GL

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From mattyoungrev2@yahoo.com  Tue Dec 31 01:19:53 2002
From: mattyoungrev2@yahoo.com (Matt Young)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:19:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] PUT_factory -- Script Import Permissions
Message-ID: <20021231011953.51080.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I need to write a PUT_factory so that FTP and WebDAV
uploads create the right type of objects in Zope (by
default everything is mapped to three objects but you can
override this).  The PUT_factory needs to be a script so
that I can place it in the affected directory (I want to
override the default for a "file share" directory), and
because I can't write external methods on this account.

Once the factory determines the type of object to be
created, it needs to return an empty object of that type
(for instance, a File or ExtFile).  Problem is, a script
can't import the definition of File etc., so I can't invoke
its constructor.  DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN CREATE A File,
ExtFile, ETC. FROM WITHIN A SCRIPT AND RETURN IT (EMPTY) AT
THE END OF THE SCRIPT?  Please note that using manage_
functions probably (?) isn't the right way to do this.

Thanks
Matt

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From ed@leafe.com  Tue Dec 31 02:08:31 2002
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:08:31 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Photo browsing products for Zope
In-Reply-To: <001901c2acbe$51c872d0$6400a8c0@INGER>
Message-ID: <C234B8A2-1C64-11D7-B689-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 04:08  AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:

>> Seems to me that just commenting out the Tk stuff didn't work - it
>> still can't find the right image processing module.
>
> No, it can't find PIL at all. Probably the compile failed, or you 
> aren't in
> the directory where _imaging.so is.

It seems to be finding PIL, since it seems to not squawk when 
PIL.Image.open() is called. And I'm running this from the same 
directory that PIL is built from.

I've been trying various other things after Googling a bit, and now I 
get the following message when try the sample code:

Python 2.2.1 (#1, Aug 30 2002, 12:15:30)
[GCC 3.2 20020822 (Red Hat Linux Rawhide 3.2-4)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import PIL.Image
 >>> a = PIL.Image.open('Images/lena.jpg')
 >>> a.load()
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
   File "PIL/ImageFile.py", line 140, in load
     d = Image._getdecoder(self.mode, d, a, self.decoderconfig)
   File "PIL/Image.py", line 255, in _getdecoder
     raise IOError("decoder %s not available" % decoder_name)
IOError: decoder jpeg not available

I followed the instructions on the "Using PIL with Zope" page 
(http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope), and configured the 
imaging lib with the correct paths to zlib and jpeglib, and the message 
now seems to be getting closer. Does anyone know why PIL can't find the 
decoder?

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From zope@stylusinc.net  Tue Dec 31 05:04:57 2002
From: zope@stylusinc.net (zope)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:34:57 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
Message-ID: <00bc01c2b08a$29ef9de0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>

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I have a probelm with starting the Zope server.
It was running perfectly fine,all of a sudden it has started throwing =
this error when I try ./start &

ERROR:-

2002-12-31T04:09:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Tue Dec 31 =
09:39:15 2002
        Hostname: apollo.stylus.local
        Port: 8021
------
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  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py, line 306, in =
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Is the address already bound to some other process?
Thank you for all help in advance.

Best Regards
John Kunchandy

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From kedai@kedai.com.my  Tue Dec 31 05:27:59 2002
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:27:59 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c2b08a$29ef9de0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
References: <00bc01c2b08a$29ef9de0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
Message-ID: <200212311327.59524.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:04, zope wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a probelm with starting the Zope server.
> It was running perfectly fine,all of a sudden it has started throwing t=
his
> error when I try ./start &
>
> ERROR:-
>
> 2002-12-31T04:09:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Tue Dec 31
> 09:39:15 2002 Hostname: apollo.stylus.local
>         Port: 8021
> ------
> 2002-12-31T04:09:15 ERROR(200) ZServer Cannot write PID file.
> ------
> 2002-12-31T04:09:15 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/z2.py, line 618, in ?
>   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/PCGIServer.py, line 275, in __ini=
t__
>   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py, line 306, in =
bind
> error: (2, 'No such file or directory')
>

do you need pcgi?  if not try=20
python z2.py -X -w8080 -D

and see if that goes
hth

> Could you please tell me where I have gone wrong .Is this a probelm wit=
h
> the port number already being in use? Is the address already bound to s=
ome
> other process?
> Thank you for all help in advance.
>
> Best Regards
> John Kunchandy
>
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From zope@stylusinc.net  Tue Dec 31 05:58:53 2002
From: zope@stylusinc.net (zope)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 11:28:53 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
References: <00bc01c2b08a$29ef9de0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com> <200212311327.59524.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <00cd01c2b091$b3126970$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>

Hi
Thanks for the prompt help . I tried starting the server using:-
 python z2.py -X -w8080 -D
This is the error I got.
--------------------------
/Software/Python-2.2.2/Lib/FCNTL.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL module
is deprecated; please use fcntl
  DeprecationWarning)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "z2.py", line 470, in ?
    import ZServer
  File "/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/__init__.py", line 26, in ?
    from medusa import asyncore
  File "/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 51, in ?
    import socket
  File "/Software/Python-2.2.2/Lib/socket.py", line 41, in ?
    from _socket import *
ImportError: libssl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory
----------------------------------

Is there some change I need to make here.Also could you please tell me what
exactly is the functionality of pcgi ?Also how it would affect an
application built to run on Zope without the pcgi?

Thanks and Best Regards
John Kunchandy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bakhtiar A Hamid" To: "zope"
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm

> On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:04, zope wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a probelm with starting the Zope server.
> > It was running perfectly fine,all of a sudden it has started throwing
this
> > error when I try ./start &
> >
> > ERROR:-
> >
> > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Tue Dec 31
> > 09:39:15 2002 Hostname: apollo.stylus.local
> >         Port: 8021
> > ------
> > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 ERROR(200) ZServer Cannot write PID file.
> > ------
> > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception
> > Traceback (innermost last):
> >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/z2.py, line 618, in ?
> >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/PCGIServer.py, line 275, in
__init__
> >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py, line 306, in
bind
> > error: (2, 'No such file or directory')
> >

> do you need pcgi?  if not try
> python z2.py -X -w8080 -D
>
> and see if that goes
> hth

> > Could you please tell me where I have gone wrong .Is this a probelm with
> > the port number already being in use? Is the address already bound to
some
> > other process?
> > Thank you for all help in advance.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > John Kunchandy

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From kedai@kedai.com.my  Tue Dec 31 06:50:19 2002
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:50:19 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
In-Reply-To: <00cd01c2b091$b3126970$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
References: <00bc01c2b08a$29ef9de0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com> <200212311327.59524.kedai@kedai.com.my> <00cd01c2b091$b3126970$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
Message-ID: <200212311450.19815.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:58, zope wrote:
> Hi
> Thanks for the prompt help . I tried starting the server using:-
>  python z2.py -X -w8080 -D
> This is the error I got.
> --------------------------
> /Software/Python-2.2.2/Lib/FCNTL.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL mo=
dule
> is deprecated; please use fcntl
>   DeprecationWarning)
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "z2.py", line 470, in ?
>     import ZServer
>   File "/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/__init__.py", line 26, in ?
>     from medusa import asyncore
>   File "/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 51, in=
 ?
>     import socket
>   File "/Software/Python-2.2.2/Lib/socket.py", line 41, in ?
>     from _socket import *
> ImportError: libssl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file =
or
> directory
> ----------------------------------
>

ok, restate the start command

try with python2.1.3

/path/to/python2.1.3 z2.py -X -w 8080 -D

> Is there some change I need to make here.Also could you please tell me =
what
> exactly is the functionality of pcgi ?Also how it would affect an
> application built to run on Zope without the pcgi?

the earlier traceback you posted showed some permission problem when tryi=
ng to=20
write the .pid file (i think it's for pcgi)
=20
pcgi is a persistant cgi that people used to use.  nowadays, with apache,=
=20
people use modrewrite/modproxy.  or use squid with httpd_accel

google for pcgi zope for better explanation

hth

>
> Thanks and Best Regards
> John Kunchandy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bakhtiar A Hamid" To: "zope"
> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
>
> > On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:04, zope wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have a probelm with starting the Zope server.
> > > It was running perfectly fine,all of a sudden it has started throwi=
ng
>
> this
>
> > > error when I try ./start &
> > >
> > > ERROR:-
> > >
> > > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Tue Dec 3=
1
> > > 09:39:15 2002 Hostname: apollo.stylus.local
> > >         Port: 8021
> > > ------
> > > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 ERROR(200) ZServer Cannot write PID file.
> > > ------
> > > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception
> > > Traceback (innermost last):
> > >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/z2.py, line 618, in ?
> > >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/PCGIServer.py, line 275, in
>
> __init__
>
> > >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py, line 306,=
 in
>
> bind
>
> > > error: (2, 'No such file or directory')
> >
> > do you need pcgi?  if not try
> > python z2.py -X -w8080 -D
> >
> > and see if that goes
> > hth
> >
> > > Could you please tell me where I have gone wrong .Is this a probelm
> > > with the port number already being in use? Is the address already b=
ound
> > > to
>
> some
>
> > > other process?
> > > Thank you for all help in advance.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > John Kunchandy
>
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From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Dec 30 20:12:29 2002
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:12:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CMFCore.DirectoryView
In-Reply-To: <002001c2b00c$b2f6a580$fe78a8c0@PCA>
References: <002001c2b00c$b2f6a580$fe78a8c0@PCA>
Message-ID: <15888.43181.293893.526103@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Elena Schulz wrote at 2002-12-30 15:00 +0100:
 > I try to connect ZPT to my local Filesytem. Previouesly I used localFS and
 > DTML which worked nicely. But according to an earlier post by Dieter I
 > learned that I should use DirectoryView from the CMFCore now.
I did not say, you *should* but you might...

An alternative would be to extend LocalFS such that it recognizes
PageTemplates.

> But thats not so easy as I found.
 > Does the registration have to be done on every serverstart again? (How to
 > automate it if so?)
Yes, it does.

It is automated by defining a product (or using one that already exists)
that does the registration (e.g.) in its "__init__.py"
 > How to add new extensions and metatypes?
You use either "registerFileExtension" or "registerMetaType".
Look at "CMFCore/FSSTXMethod.py" for examples.

> Up to now I succeeded to register an arbitrary Directory on my local FS and
 > different MetaTypes with the external Method given below. But a
 > corresponding klass has to be given for the registration. How to do that
 > using classes like the 'FSObject' return bad file error when I try to view
 > the object in ZMI.
Maybe, because it is the abstract base class.
Try "FSFile" or "FSImage" (or whatever other type you need).

Dieter

From luca@wetron.es  Tue Dec 31 09:13:55 2002
From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:13:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
In-Reply-To: <3E106F6F.4020801@wetron.es>
References: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es> <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com> <3E105EC3.4070602@wetron.es> <3E106F6F.4020801@wetron.es>
Message-ID: <3E115FD3.4020607@wetron.es>

Luca Olivetti wrote:
> Luca Olivetti wrote:
> 
>>
>> 2) the content of the script is
>>
>> attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename')
> 
> 
> hmmm, change that to
> 
> attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'yourattributename',())
> 
> if it is to be picked up by a keyword index
> 
>> if callable(attr): attr=attr()
>> return attr

I stumbled into another problem: the method is useable for indexes but 
not for metadata.
I digged into the source of ZCatalog and I saw that's because Zcatalog 
first calls recordify (see Catalog.py) on the object which uses MV (from 
Missing) to indicate a missing attribute, while each plugin index uses a 
different method to identify a missing attribute (for example, 
UnIndex.py defines an internal _merker as []).
So if my method uses

attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute')

it will tipically work in a plugin index because it's wrapped in a try 
except block, but will not work with metadata since there's no 
try/except there.
I can use

attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute',MV)

(in an external method, a python script cannot use Missing)
but that, while giving the correct result to recordify, will still index 
the object since the plugin index is expecting another value to indicate 
a missing attribute.

If it were possible to import an attribute starting with _ doing

from Products.PluginIndexes.common.Unindex import _merker
attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute',_merker)

will give the correct result for a fieldIndex but would use the wrong 
metadata for other indexes.

I may be wrong but I think that the inconsistency between the value used 
by the catalog and the various plugin indexes to indicate a missing 
value should be fixed, for example they could all import MV from Missing 
like Catalog.py does. Should I file this into the collector or there is 
another reason I don't know for these inconsistencies?

I can change it myself in my local zope (currently 2.6.1b1) but there's 
no point in doing it if the next release will overwrite my changes.

For the time being, do you see another solution besides writing two 
methods (one for metadata and the other for indexes)?

TIA
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Wetron Automatización S.A. http://www.wetron.es/
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From zope@stylusinc.net  Tue Dec 31 10:13:11 2002
From: zope@stylusinc.net (zope)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:43:11 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
References: <00bc01c2b08a$29ef9de0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com> <200212311327.59524.kedai@kedai.com.my> <00cd01c2b091$b3126970$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com> <200212311450.19815.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <023401c2b0b5$394445e0$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>

Hi Bakhtiar

Thank you for your help.
The server is now up and running.
I am also running the NUXEO CPS on the server.
Earlier when I had tried to install it it threw an error simlar to the
earlier one.
Now the CPS is also runnning.

Thanks
John Kunchandy
========================================================
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bakhtiar A Hamid" To: "zope"
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm

> On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:58, zope wrote:
> > Hi
> > Thanks for the prompt help . I tried starting the server using:-
> >  python z2.py -X -w8080 -D
> > This is the error I got.
> > --------------------------
> > /Software/Python-2.2.2/Lib/FCNTL.py:7: DeprecationWarning: the FCNTL
module
> > is deprecated; please use fcntl
> >   DeprecationWarning)
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "z2.py", line 470, in ?
> >     import ZServer
> >   File "/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/__init__.py", line 26, in ?
> >     from medusa import asyncore
> >   File "/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py", line 51, in
?
> >     import socket
> >   File "/Software/Python-2.2.2/Lib/socket.py", line 41, in ?
> >     from _socket import *
> > ImportError: libssl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or
> > directory
> > ----------------------------------
 ok, restate the start command

try with python2.1.3

/path/to/python2.1.3 z2.py -X -w 8080 -D

> Is there some change I need to make here.Also could you please tell me
what
 > exactly is the functionality of pcgi ?Also how it would affect an
 > application built to run on Zope without the pcgi?

> the earlier traceback you posted showed some permission problem when
trying to
> write the .pid file (i think it's for pcgi)
>
> pcgi is a persistant cgi that people used to use.  nowadays, with apache,
> people use modrewrite/modproxy.  or use squid with httpd_accel
>
> google for pcgi zope for better explanation
>
> hth
>
> >
> > Thanks and Best Regards
> > John Kunchandy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bakhtiar A Hamid" To: "zope"
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope starting Probelm
> >
> > > On Tuesday 31 December 2002 13:04, zope wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I have a probelm with starting the Zope server.
> > > > It was running perfectly fine,all of a sudden it has started
throwing
> >
> > this
> >
> > > > error when I try ./start &
> > > >
> > > > ERROR:-
> > > >
> > > > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 INFO(0) ZServer FTP server started at Tue Dec 31
> > > > 09:39:15 2002 Hostname: apollo.stylus.local
> > > >         Port: 8021
> > > > ------
> > > > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 ERROR(200) ZServer Cannot write PID file.
> > > > ------
> > > > 2002-12-31T04:09:15 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception
> > > > Traceback (innermost last):
> > > >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/z2.py, line 618, in ?
> > > >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/PCGIServer.py, line 275, in
> >
> > __init__
> >
> > > >   File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/ZServer/medusa/asyncore.py, line 306,
in
> >
> > bind
> >
> > > > error: (2, 'No such file or directory')
> > >
> > > do you need pcgi?  if not try
> > > python z2.py -X -w8080 -D
> > >
> > > and see if that goes
> > > hth
> > >
> > > > Could you please tell me where I have gone wrong .Is this a probelm
> > > > with the port number already being in use? Is the address already
bound
> > > > to
> >
> > some
> >
> > > > other process?
> > > > Thank you for all help in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > John Kunchandy

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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 31 10:33:11 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:33:11 +0000
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
References: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es> <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com> <3E105EC3.4070602@wetron.es> <3E106F6F.4020801@wetron.es> <3E115FD3.4020607@wetron.es>
Message-ID: <3E117267.9070308@nipltd.com>

Luca Olivetti wrote:
> I stumbled into another problem: the method is useable for indexes but 
> not for metadata.
> I digged into the source of ZCatalog and I saw that's because Zcatalog 
> first calls recordify (see Catalog.py) on the object which uses MV (from 
> Missing) to indicate a missing attribute, while each plugin index uses a 
> different method to identify a missing attribute (for example, 
> UnIndex.py defines an internal _merker as []).

Why would hypothesise that the real problem is that adding stuff to indexes 
ignores AttributeError's and KeyError's which storing it as metadata doesn't, 
which it should.

> So if my method uses
> 
>    attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute')
> 
> it will tipically work in a plugin index because it's wrapped in a try 
> except block, but will not work with metadata since there's no 
> try/except there.

So put one in yourself ;-) (well, something that works the same...)

attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute',None)

I think that's your best bet...

cheers,

Chris

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 31 10:37:04 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:37:04 +0000
Subject: [Zope] PUT_factory -- Script Import Permissions
References: <20021231011953.51080.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E117350.3020405@nipltd.com>

You need to use an External Method, not a script.

Chris

Matt Young wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I need to write a PUT_factory so that FTP and WebDAV
> uploads create the right type of objects in Zope (by
> default everything is mapped to three objects but you can
> override this).  The PUT_factory needs to be a script so
> that I can place it in the affected directory (I want to
> override the default for a "file share" directory), and
> because I can't write external methods on this account.  
> 
> Once the factory determines the type of object to be
> created, it needs to return an empty object of that type
> (for instance, a File or ExtFile).  Problem is, a script
> can't import the definition of File etc., so I can't invoke
> its constructor.  DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN CREATE A File,
> ExtFile, ETC. FROM WITHIN A SCRIPT AND RETURN IT (EMPTY) AT
> THE END OF THE SCRIPT?  Please note that using manage_
> functions probably (?) isn't the right way to do this.
> 
> Thanks
> Matt
> 
> 
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From luca@wetron.es  Tue Dec 31 12:45:50 2002
From: luca@wetron.es (Luca Olivetti)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:45:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] stopping indexing of acquired attributes
In-Reply-To: <3E117267.9070308@nipltd.com>
References: <3E1001E5.7080701@wetron.es> <3E10321E.2010802@nipltd.com> <3E105EC3.4070602@wetron.es> <3E106F6F.4020801@wetron.es> <3E115FD3.4020607@wetron.es> <3E117267.9070308@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E11917E.2000906@wetron.es>

Chris Withers wrote:
> Luca Olivetti wrote:
> 
>> I stumbled into another problem: the method is useable for indexes but 
>> not for metadata.
>> I digged into the source of ZCatalog and I saw that's because Zcatalog 
>> first calls recordify (see Catalog.py) on the object which uses MV 
>> (from Missing) to indicate a missing attribute, while each plugin 
>> index uses a different method to identify a missing attribute (for 
>> example, UnIndex.py defines an internal _merker as []).
> 
> 
> Why would hypothesise that the real problem is that adding stuff to 
> indexes ignores AttributeError's and KeyError's which storing it as 
> metadata doesn't, which it should.

Yes, this is the quick fix I finally adopted:

--- Catalog.py.orig     Tue Dec 31 10:25:44 2002
+++ Catalog.py  Tue Dec 31 10:39:28 2002
@@ -400,8 +400,11 @@
          record = []
          # the unique id is allways the first element
          for x in self.names:
-            attr=getattr(object, x, MV)
-            if(attr is not MV and callable(attr)): attr=attr()
+            try:
+                attr=getattr(object, x, MV)
+                if(attr is not MV and callable(attr)): attr=attr()
+            except AttributeError:
+                attr=MV
              record.append(attr)
          return tuple(record)

> 
>> So if my method uses
>>
>>    attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute')
>>
>> it will tipically work in a plugin index because it's wrapped in a try 
>> except block, but will not work with metadata since there's no 
>> try/except there.
> 
> 
> So put one in yourself ;-) (well, something that works the same...)
> 
> attr=getattr(context.aq_explicit,'myattribute',None)

That was the first thing I tried but it didn't (aesthetically) please 
me: *all* object would be catalogged (it not the same None than the 
missing value each plugin index and metadata uses).

Bye

-- 
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Wetron Automatización S.A. http://www.wetron.es/
Tel. +34 93 5883004      Fax +34 93 5883007

From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Tue Dec 31 15:24:19 2002
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (Jeff Sacksteder)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:24:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Python scripts & DA objects
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB198296@SRV-03>

I have an specific need to manipulate Database objects directly with a
python script, rather than by ZSQL methods.

I notice methods called manage_insert, manage_join, and manage_update in the
source, but I can't quite get the syntax right. Zope Labs doesn't have any
example code for this that I can find. Has anyone done something like this?

Alternately, Since I can't introspect through the ZMI- where can I find a
list of all the methods a DA object supports?

From dave@loewen.com  Tue Dec 31 16:08:01 2002
From: dave@loewen.com (dave@loewen.com)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:08:01 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Howto use getattr() without acquisition?
Message-ID: <OF4B2962EA.07264261-ON86256CA0.0057D0DE-86256CA0.00589A25@loewen.com>

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I'm building a python script to generate breadcrumb navigation links on 
each page of my website.

It creates hyperlinks and uses the title or id for the link. I'd like to 
add a feature so that if the folder has a "nickname" property, it will use 
this for the breadcrumb hyperlink instead of the title.

I tried using "hasattr()" to see if the current folder has a nickname 
property. It seems to work if the folder has a nickname property. However, 
if the folder doesn't have that properly, but the parent does, it still 
returns "true" and then getattr() acquires it from the parent instead of 
using the title. Is there a way to tell hasattr() to *not* use 
acquisition? Or perhaps another method which would do what I want? I'm 
sure there is a much more elegant way to do this...

(These question feels like a FAQ, and I did do my best to search the group 
archives, but couldn't find anything appropriate-- most breadcrumb 
conversations seem to revolve around DTML and getProperty().)

--dave

"""
This script creates breadcrumb style navigation links.

It walks the REQUEST.PARENTS list of parents and creates
a hyperlink for each parent. It stops at the Examples folder.
"""
links=[]
for parent in context.REQUEST.PARENTS[1:]:
    id = parent.getId()
    if hasattr(parent, 'nickname'):
        label = getattr(parent, 'nickname')
    elif parent.title != "":
        label = parent.title
    else:
        label = parent.getId()
    links.insert(0, """<a href="%s" class="breadcrumb">%s</a>""" % 
(parent.absolute_url(), label))

# Now get label for current container
if context.hasProperty('nickname'):
  label = context.nickname
elif context.title != "":
  label = context.title
else:
  label = context.getId()

return " : ".join(links) + " : " + label

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'm building a python script to generate breadcrumb navigation links on each page of my website.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It creates hyperlinks and uses the title or id for the link. I'd like to add a feature so that if the folder has a "nickname" property, it will use this for the breadcrumb hyperlink instead of the title.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I tried using "hasattr()" to see if the current folder has a nickname property. It seems to work if the folder has a nickname property. However, if the folder doesn't have that properly, but the parent does, it still returns "true" and then getattr() acquires it from the parent instead of using the title. Is there a way to tell hasattr() to *not* use acquisition? Or perhaps another method which would do what I want? I'm sure there is a much more elegant way to do this...</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">(These question feels like a FAQ, and I did do my best to search the group archives, but couldn't find anything appropriate-- most breadcrumb conversations seem to revolve around DTML and getProperty().)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">--dave</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">"""</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This script creates breadcrumb style navigation links.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It walks the REQUEST.PARENTS list of parents and creates</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">a hyperlink for each parent. It stops at the Examples folder.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">"""</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">links=[]</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">for parent in context.REQUEST.PARENTS[1:]:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">    id = parent.getId()</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">    if hasattr(parent, 'nickname'):</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">        label = getattr(parent, 'nickname')</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">    elif parent.title != "":</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">        label = parent.title</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">    else:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">        label = parent.getId()</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">    links.insert(0, """<a href="%s" class="breadcrumb">%s</a>""" % (parent.absolute_url(), label))</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"># Now get label for current container</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">if context.hasProperty('nickname'):</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">  label = context.nickname</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">elif context.title != "":</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">  label = context.title</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">else:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">  label = context.getId()</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">return " : ".join(links) + " : " + label</font>
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From Lewis.Krause@echostar.com  Tue Dec 31 16:20:50 2002
From: Lewis.Krause@echostar.com (Krause, Lewis)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:20:50 -0700
Subject: [Zope] permissions
Message-ID: <2765D7B37D8F3F4BB48F01D93E058F4E2B8ECD@riv-exch4.echostar.com>

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I would like to know which permission controls the ability to change

Data being entered in a DTML doc, not being able to change the Doc

Itself. ie entering data into a database. I want to control access at the

Object level.

Thanks in advance.

Lewie

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to change</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Data being entered in a DTML doc, not being able to change
the Doc</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Itself. ie entering data into a database. I want to control
access at the</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Object level. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks in advance.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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From gilles@pilotsystems.net  Tue Dec 31 17:02:05 2002
From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:02:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Howto use getattr() without acquisition?
References: <OF4B2962EA.07264261-ON86256CA0.0057D0DE-86256CA0.00589A25@loewen.com>
Message-ID: <e0de01c2b0ee$58a4de20$0701a8c0@provence>

I had a similar problem some weeks ago and Dieter Maurer gave me the
enlightenment.

I think you should use getattr(object.aq_explicit, 'someattr')

Hereafter is the copy/paste of his post.

You may want to read the "Acquisition" section of

<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

You will learn that acquisition wrappers have two components: "aq_self"
and "aq_parent", and that an implicit acquisition wrapper first
asks "aq_self" and, if unsuccessful, automatically asks "aq_parent"
for an attribute lookup, while an explicit wrapper only asks "aq_self".

With these explanations you will understand that
"hasattr(obj.aq_explicit,*)"
is equivalent to "hasattr(obj.aq_base,*)" iff "obj.aq_self" is not
itself acquisition wrapped.

Dieter

----- Original Message -----
From: dave@loewen.com
To: zope@zope.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 5:08 PM
Subject: [Zope] Howto use getattr() without acquisition?

I'm building a python script to generate breadcrumb navigation links on each
page of my website.

It creates hyperlinks and uses the title or id for the link. I'd like to add
a feature so that if the folder has a "nickname" property, it will use this
for the breadcrumb hyperlink instead of the title.

I tried using "hasattr()" to see if the current folder has a nickname
property. It seems to work if the folder has a nickname property. However,
if the folder doesn't have that properly, but the parent does, it still
returns "true" and then getattr() acquires it from the parent instead of
using the title. Is there a way to tell hasattr() to *not* use acquisition?
Or perhaps another method which would do what I want? I'm sure there is a
much more elegant way to do this...

(These question feels like a FAQ, and I did do my best to search the group
archives, but couldn't find anything appropriate-- most breadcrumb
conversations seem to revolve around DTML and getProperty().)

--dave

"""
This script creates breadcrumb style navigation links.

# Now get label for current container
if context.hasProperty('nickname'):
  label = context.nickname
elif context.title != "":
  label = context.title
else:
  label = context.getId()

return " : ".join(links) + " : " + label

From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Dec 31 16:57:03 2002
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:57:03 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Howto use getattr() without acquisition?
References: <OF4B2962EA.07264261-ON86256CA0.0057D0DE-86256CA0.00589A25@loewen.com>
Message-ID: <3E11CC5F.8090203@nipltd.com>

getattr(context.aq_explicit,'nickname',None)

cheers,

Chris

dave@loewen.com wrote:
> 
> I'm building a python script to generate breadcrumb navigation links on 
> each page of my website.
> 
> It creates hyperlinks and uses the title or id for the link. I'd like to 
> add a feature so that if the folder has a "nickname" property, it will 
> use this for the breadcrumb hyperlink instead of the title.
> 
> I tried using "hasattr()" to see if the current folder has a nickname 
> property. It seems to work if the folder has a nickname property. 
> However, if the folder doesn't have that properly, but the parent does, 
> it still returns "true" and then getattr() acquires it from the parent 
> instead of using the title. Is there a way to tell hasattr() to *not* 
> use acquisition? Or perhaps another method which would do what I want? 
> I'm sure there is a much more elegant way to do this...
> 
> (These question feels like a FAQ, and I did do my best to search the 
> group archives, but couldn't find anything appropriate-- most breadcrumb 
> conversations seem to revolve around DTML and getProperty().)
> 
> --dave
> 
> 
> """
> This script creates breadcrumb style navigation links.
> 
> It walks the REQUEST.PARENTS list of parents and creates
> a hyperlink for each parent. It stops at the Examples folder.
> """
> links=[]
> for parent in context.REQUEST.PARENTS[1:]:
>     id = parent.getId()
>     if hasattr(parent, 'nickname'):
>         label = getattr(parent, 'nickname')
>     elif parent.title != "":
>         label = parent.title
>     else:
>         label = parent.getId()
>     links.insert(0, """<a href="%s" class="breadcrumb">%s</a>""" % 
> (parent.absolute_url(), label))
> 
> # Now get label for current container
> if context.hasProperty('nickname'):
>   label = context.nickname
> elif context.title != "":
>   label = context.title
> else:
>   label = context.getId()
> 
> return " : ".join(links) + " : " + label

From andrew@logicalprogression.net  Tue Dec 31 17:34:18 2002
From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:34:18 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Python scripts & DA objects
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB198296@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <BA37859A.7783%andrew@logicalprogression.net>

On 31/12/02 3:24 pm, "Jeff Sacksteder" <jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com>
wrote:

> I have an specific need to manipulate Database objects directly with a
> python script, rather than by ZSQL methods.
> 
> I notice methods called manage_insert, manage_join, and manage_update in the
> source, but I can't quite get the syntax right. Zope Labs doesn't have any
> example code for this that I can find. Has anyone done something like this?
> 
> Alternately, Since I can't introspect through the ZMI- where can I find a
> list of all the methods a DA object supports?

If you want to use databases in Zope through Python the choices are to: (a)
use ZSQL methods or (b) connect to whatever database you are using directly
through the Python driver. But if the choose (b) make sure you know what
you're doing and package up the transactions properly.

I guess you could try to re-write the ZSQL method yourself and go directly
to the DA but I don't know why you'd want to do that.

Also a good idea to check out the zope-db@zope.org list where questions
about relational databases should go - the archives might be helpful too.

-- 
Logical Progression Ltd, 3 Randolph Crescent, Edinburgh, EH3 7TH, UK
Tel: +44 (0)131 466 9585 Web: http://www.logicalprogression.net/

From troester@fh-heilbronn.de  Tue Dec 31 20:09:27 2002
From: troester@fh-heilbronn.de (F. Troester)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:09:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Code forgetting the password for a user out of in acl_users
Message-ID: <001c01c2b108$896f6970$6401a8c0@mbmsrprivalix>

Hello,
is there the posibility to get the password of a user with "userid", if
there is known the userfolder "acl" ?
It could be a function like getPWD(acl, userid).

Thank=B4s, Fritz

From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Mon Dec 30 18:35:31 2002
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (Catonano)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:35:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How do I deal with UNpickelableError ?
Message-ID: <20021230193531439026.GyazMail.a.peluso@fulltrading.it>

il nome del dominio =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E8:?= www.badiailvingone.it

il resto dei documenti che tin gli ha dato =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E8?= spazzatura.

Grazie 
Ciao
Adri

P.S. ti faccio sapere se riesce a attivare la cosa
pickelable and UNpickelable objects
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Hello all,

I get something back froma ZCatalog (  results = myZCatalog({'myAttr': 
myValue})    )

Then I try to put results in session, like this:

...Request.Session['myResults'] = results

What I get back is an UnpickelableError message.

It seems that lists are not pickelable.

How can I store my results in a pickelable form? Can I?

I'd like tu put online my work, when done, so I'd like not using 
products (like RAM based session managers), since I don't know how many 
of them are supported by my host.

Please, please, please! Is there ANY possibility to put my objects in a 
pickelable set?

Less importantly: How can I know wether an object is pickelable or not? 
How can I know WHO my object inherits from?

In SmallTalk and Java I was used to class browsers and that did. How in 
Zope/python?

Are dictionaries pickelable? How do I distinguish a list from a 
dictionary?
Are there any kind of sets, other than lists and dictionaries?

Ok, I think I made clear what I'm at. Please help me

Thank you all.
Bye
Catonano

From chrism@zope.com  Tue Dec 31 23:40:37 2002
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 31 Dec 2002 18:40:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs Disappeared ?!
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030101172104.0220f610@mail.thewebsons.com>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030101172104.0220f610@mail.thewebsons.com>
Message-ID: <1041378036.7212.16.camel@dorothy.nv.cox.net>

Sounds like you've got INSTANCE_HOME or CLIENT_HOME pointing to the
wrong place and Zope has happily created a new storage file there for
you.  Check the control panel for where it thinks INSTANCE_HOME and
CLIENT_HOME are.

On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 16:24, beno wrote:
> Hi;
> Okay, I figured out how to change the password. Then I installed the old 
> Data.fs in the new rebuild and ran start. I logged in (yay!) but much to my 
> amazement the directory didn't have any of my data! It had the standard 
> data from the new rebuild! I double-checked to make sure I had the right 
> Data.fs in there: it's about 10 times larger than the one from the new 
> build so it's right and it's in the right place. What on earth is going on??
> TIA,
> beno
> 
> 
> 
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From johanc@easypublisher.com  Tue Dec 17 06:45:54 2002
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:45:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] MSWordDocument and Logictran's R2NET
In-Reply-To: <BEEHJMMMOGNIPHGPIKENAEBCCEAA.Bryan@capitanoweb.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021216165419.020b9ce0@prue.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021217083543.0252fcc0@prue.torped.se>

At 10:16 2002-12-16 -0800, Bryan Capitano said:

> > How does Logictran's R2NET compare to vwWare (which is use by
> > MSWordDocuments on Unix)?

Thanks for a great answer Bryan,

Does R2NET on

>Johan,
>
>I had evaluated wvWare a couple months ago for a web-to-print project
>(sharing documents between a website and a printed book publication).=
 wvWare
>wasn't nearly as feature-rich or robust as R2NET.
>For example:
>1. I was not able to use wvWare to convert DOC/RTF into XML using my own
>DTD. (I can with R2NET).
>2. wvWare did not recognize some of the more complex RTF control codes for
>font "styles", tables, or anything much more complicated than plain text.=
 It
>does recognize fonts, font sizes, and italics/bold/etc. But in Word you can
>define actual styles that you can re-use or apply to sections of a=
 document.
>wvWare doesn't capture style information.
>3. In the publishing world, documents often have hidden codes embedded in
>the document. In particular, I was concerned about RTF codes \xe, \txe, and
>\tc.  In the document these look like: {xe "this looks like an index=
 code."}
>or see-also entries like this: {xe "trees" \t "See also Shrubs"}. You might
>also want to use some hidden table-of-contents codes embedded in your
>document like this: {tc "Chapter 1, Trees and Shrubs" \l 1}.  R2NET will
>extract this information from RTF documents and put them in your XML if you
>tell it HOW by using the translation files. wvWare can't do this, at least
>not to my knowledge.
>
>For these reasons, I think wvWare is a good "basic" converter. It's a good
>first step, and useful for basic doc-->html needs. But if you need more
>power and extensibility, and if you want to dump Word documents into your
>own pre-defined XML DTD, then R2NET is worth the $69 dollars.
>
>You could also write your own Perl RTF parser by making use of
>RTF::Tokenizer. I have done this too. It is a more difficult road, but=
 gives
>you absolute flexibility. There may be a similar RTF tokenizer for=
 Python???
>
>Best regards,
>Bryan
>
>
>Bryan R. Capitano
>President,
>CAPITANO WEb CONSULTING
>Tel: 541-344-0747
>Email: Bryan@capitanoweb.com
>URL: http://www.capitanoweb.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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