Zope July 1999

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Newbie Q: How to timestamp documents?
by James W.Y.F. Chan 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

Hello, I'm struggling to learn Zope 1.10.3 running on my Debian Linux 2.2.10 box. I have a few questions: Issue 1. How do I get Zope to timestamp my modified document? >From the User Guides I've downloaded, I can do this within a document to call on the "Id" or the "title" of a document:  But I understand I am unable to use the "Last Modified" or "Size" properties from my workspace. It would be nice if I could do something like this in my documents: Last modified on . What is the workaround for this? Issue 2. Am I the only one to see that the keyword search function for the archived mailing list is sort of useless? I prefer a more powerful engine considering the question above is a simple question for most of you here. Issue 3. Are there any better documentation guides than the user guides posted on the Zope site? Of course I am generalizing here but I see the biggest problem with Open Source software is that the documentation seems to be lacking. Unless someone gets in early with the software development, the learning curve for simpletons like us are quite long. Thanks, -james-

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RE: [Zope] Basic Zope Documentation?
by Michel Pelletier 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: The Dragon De Monsyne [mailto:dragondm@integral.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 5:40 PM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Basic Zope Documentation? > > > I've been looking for some documentation of so very basic Zope > features, and have been going nuts trying to find it. > > Basically I',m looking for info on things like objectValues(). > _I_ know you use objectValuee to get the contents of a > folder, but _where_ > is there docs that say that? (and how you use it) > objectValues and it's brethren are documented in the online help, under 'Object Manager'. This is probably not the easiest place for a new person to find it. > Plus things like id, title, title_or_id (which are methods as > I found out > after much irritation, (I'd thought they were attrbutes)), In some cases they are computed attributes, others methods, and some even plain attributes. > and there are > others I know (but I don't know what they are, since I can't > find a list > of them). The DTML manual covers a good bit of the builtin stuff. > Like I said _I_ know these things, but I'm putting together a > community site for Authors and Artists, and _they_ won't, and if there > isn't some good docs I can point 'em to I'll be getting > emails asking 'how > do I get the last changed date for my document', & 'How do I > list stuff in > a folder' a dozen times a day. > This could be tricky. Keep in mind however, that there are some serious long term documentation projects going on for the benefit of everyone. It's a huge task though. I think something like a DTML quick reference card would be handy though. -Michel > (Yes, I've already looked at the online help, the User's > Guides, and the > ZDP site.) > > -The Dragon De Monsyne > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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RE: [Zope] Creating a New Object Type - Use ZClass or Python?
by Michel Pelletier 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

> -----Original Message----- > From: eric jones [mailto:ej@ee.duke.edu] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 5:30 AM > To: zope(a)zope.org > Subject: [Zope] Creating a New Object Type - Use ZClass or Python? > > > > Is this best done by creating a class in python or with the ZClass > interface? > Both can do what your looking for. The choice is based on preference. Zclasses are good for content managers who understandthe object abstraction but want to 1) develop programaticly through the web and 2) not use python. I personally would write your product in python, since I use it so much it's just second nature to me, and the bits of arcana associated with Zope products is second nature. The arcana is minimal however, just look at a few example products and you will see that there is a noticible pattern. Your class needs a meta_type, icon, permission settings, management options, an index_html public interface method, a manage_main managment interface method, and an __init__ file in the products package that registers itself with Zope. -Michel > thanks, > eric > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > > (To receive general Zope announcements, see: > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - > http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Re: [Zope] Adding a zclass based product to a folder programmatically
by Kevin Dangoor 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

Hi, Phil This sounds like a job for the "owner" role. My take on it is this: you can have a method (DTML or External) with an appropriate Proxy role to create the ZClass instance for the person. If you set the permissions such that the ZClass instances can be modified by someone with "Owner" role, then the users should be able to modify their homepage and not anyone elses. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Phil Harris <phil(a)philh.org> To: zope(a)zope.org <zope(a)zope.org> Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 6:44 AM Subject: [Zope] Adding a zclass based product to a folder programmatically >Hi all, > >I have created some zclass based products, Homepage and hpindex_html. > >When a user comes to the site I want to allow them to create a homepage >product, I was hoping to do this via an external method, since I don't want >them to have author rights on any other folder except the one created for >them. > >So my question is how would this be done. > >I have a handle on creating default documents/ user folders etc from a >products add form, but this has me stumped. > >TIA > >Phil >phil(a)philh.org > > > >_______________________________________________ >Zope maillist - Zope(a)zope.org >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > >(To receive general Zope announcements, see: >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > >For developer-specific issues, zope-dev(a)zope.org - >http://www.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >

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Redirecting
by Rick Collette 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

I'm extremely new to Zope.. so bear with me. I'm running Zope 1 using the Zope Server for HTTP, I need to redirect the root index to a folder within the root.. how is this done? (i.e. user hits http://www.myhost.com and gets redirected to www.myhost.com/linuxgt .. which is the root of my squishdot folder..) Thanks!

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RE:Makeing a squishdot object the index_html
by Rick Collette 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

I had asked a question earlier today regarding redirection, this is how i handled making Squishdot the 'index_html' .. I deleted everything from the root index_html edit window, and added:  of course 'squish_object_folder_name' is the name of you squishdot folder... thanks to Tony McDonald for the quick response to my earlier question. --Rick Collette Webmaster: www.ishophere.com

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Interrogating DTML values from within an External method
by Tony McDonald 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

I've spent all morning on this and searched the Zope and ZDP site to no avail. How do I get values of dtml variables defined in a DTML document from within an external method? <dtml-in question_set> - defined as a property in the enclosing folder. Use self.question_set - ok. <dtml-let qidx="_['sequence-item']"> - a variable created in the document. I use self.qidx and get Error type: AttributeError Error value: qidx Using REQUEST.qidx I get Error type: KeyError Error value: qidx Using REQUEST['qidx'] returns Error type: KeyError Error value: qidx Ideally I want to get the value of a variable created from a ZSQL method, <dtml-in "get_question(code=qidx)"> (variable correct defined by get_question ZSQL) </dtml-in> but that's not working either. *ANY* thoughts would be appreciated. tone ------ Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2

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Adding a zclass based product to a folder programmatically
by Phil Harris 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

Hi all, I have created some zclass based products, Homepage and hpindex_html. When a user comes to the site I want to allow them to create a homepage product, I was hoping to do this via an external method, since I don't want them to have author rights on any other folder except the one created for them. So my question is how would this be done. I have a handle on creating default documents/ user folders etc from a products add form, but this has me stumped. TIA Phil phil(a)philh.org

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project done
by Jens Vagelpohl 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

hi everyone, just got my independent study project (an intranet-based customer database using Zope and MySQL) all done last night and wanted to quickly say a huge thanks to everyone who helped me out when I had questions, especially michel :) Jens Vagelpohl p.s.: but don't worry, you ain't got rid of me yet :P

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Basic Zope Documentation?
by The Dragon De Monsyne 30 Jul '99

30 Jul '99

I've been looking for some documentation of so very basic Zope features, and have been going nuts trying to find it. Basically I',m looking for info on things like objectValues(). _I_ know you use objectValuee to get the contents of a folder, but _where_ is there docs that say that? (and how you use it) Plus things like id, title, title_or_id (which are methods as I found out after much irritation, (I'd thought they were attrbutes)), and there are others I know (but I don't know what they are, since I can't find a list of them). Like I said _I_ know these things, but I'm putting together a community site for Authors and Artists, and _they_ won't, and if there isn't some good docs I can point 'em to I'll be getting emails asking 'how do I get the last changed date for my document', & 'How do I list stuff in a folder' a dozen times a day. (Yes, I've already looked at the online help, the User's Guides, and the ZDP site.) -The Dragon De Monsyne

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