[ZF] LWN: Fedora7 dropping Zope due to Python 2.5 incompatibility

Andreas Jung lists at zopyx.com
Fri May 11 01:10:55 EDT 2007



--On 10. Mai 2007 16:46:37 +0200 Martijn Faassen <faassen at startifact.com> 
wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I don't think we need to be calling the Fedora developers "trolls" in
> this discussion. I can see where they don't want to support Python 2.4
> if Zope is the only thing holding it back.

"Trolls" applies to the package maintainer(s) I had to deal with in the 
must. If a package maintainer does not know what "requirements" means and 
only little background about the things he is doing then I would call such 
a maintainer irresponsible ...or a troll.

>
> It's also a marketing issue. Zope just made the news as a system
> that's lagging behind other Python software and causes controversy in
> Fedora. That's not really optimal. :) That doesn't mean Zope's
> strategy of slowly upgrading to the next Python is a bad one -
> stability is more important than the latest Python features and we
> need to marshal our community resources carefully.

Marketing or not. Zope is not a kindergarden project and we don't need to
jump on any train just because it stops right now in front of our door.

In addition our support for packaged versions of Zope is very limited. 
Installing Zope from sources is much easier and better documented than any 
packaged Zope version where people don't know where the packager has moved 
the configurations and the startup command. And the best-practice approach 
for deploying Zope is still installing Zope and Python from the sources.
>
>

Andreas
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