[ZF] LWN: Fedora7 dropping Zope due to Python 2.5 incompatibility

Lennart Regebro regebro at gmail.com
Fri May 11 11:07:45 EDT 2007


On 5/11/07, Tres Seaver <tseaver at palladion.com> wrote:
>   Jeremy Katz, the maintainer quoted above, would like to see a rule
>   allowing a package maintainer to veto the addition of older "compat"
>   packages so that they could avoid having to deal with these sorts of
>   problems.

So not only doesn't he want to do it, he want to prevent other people
from doing the work too. I actually find that attitude <insert bad
word of your own choice here>.

> Again, I'm not saying this is a "stop the presses" moment for us;  the
> immediate damage, in terms of marketing, is already done.  I do think
> that staying forward-compatible with new Python versions should be a
> goal, moving forward, even if we don't support running Zope on such a
> version.  I also believe that fixing this issue is going to require
> serious chops, at least for the ExtensionClass stuff.

Yeah, I don't know how realistic that is... That said, sure, it is a
bit embarrasing that we don't support 2.5 yet. We should have
supported it by now. But it wouldn't have helped us much, because we
haven't released a major Zope2 version since Python 2.5 came out
anyway, so we would still be in a situation where Fedora stopping 2.4
support means no Zope2 packages for Fedora.

I just find the package managers attitude unsustainable, and my gut
reaction is to ignore the dude. And that's my recommendation to Fedora
too. :-)

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