[ZF] Proposal: Launchpad code hosting for ZF projects; free commercial support for migration

[Gary Poster]

I'm going to be forwarding some messages from Christian Reis (Kiko).   
He is the project manager for Launchpad and bzr.

Here's the first.



On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:05:24PM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote:
 > 1. Should we move from SVN to a new DVCS?

I think eventually most projects will move on to a DVCS. It is really a
fantastic improvement from a developer's perspective: local commits,
browsing of local history, trivial branching and smart merging.. Most of
the problems we see in DVCS today are in a way teething problems as
people have figured out how we're going to use these tools and what the
performance and workflow implications are.

Being an adopter of a DVCS, and in particular of one where the authors
are interested in your feedback and input, means you can also help shape
how that tool works for you. Need a plugin to simplify your workflow?
Let's talk about it. Missing an important feature for this year? Let's
figure out where to put it on the roadmap. So this is indeed a
deliberate offer from me and Canonical -- and I won't underline this  
if I
don't feel this is a net win for Zope. But right now I do!

 > 2. If so, which one?  There are already folks happily using git,
 >    and bzr, and hg in our community:  I'm pretty sure there is no
 >    easy consensus among the four choices.

I have picked up two bugs from this thread (98836 and 304883) and will
look into them; it's also worth noting the major ongoing performance
work for the first quarter 2009.

 > 3. If the developers choose bzr, should we take Canonical up on their
 >    offer?  I would vote "no" here:  I don't think the Foundation  
should
 >    outsource managment of the codebase, where custody of that  
codebase
 >    is the entire reason the Foundation exists.

I think Gary pointed this out before, but fundamentally a DVCS means
that you decide how to manage your codebase. Launchpad can act as the
primary advertised repository, or as a mirror. The cool thing about
Launchpad, though, is that anybody can use it as a public storage room
for their branches -- and you can on top of that issue review requests
and have reviews handled via email or the web UI equally. We're also
investing a lot into features that make it easier to share and manage
code -- inline annotations, incremental diffs, etc.
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~kiko