[ZF] [gocept #93108] Re: Foundation goals survey

[Christian Theune via RT]

Can this discussion please move to a discussion list?

Every mail creates a ticket in our ticket system as this list has every member
(including sponsor organisations) and should be very low traffic IIRC.

Otherwise I'd be happy to remove mail at gocept.com from the list if I find the
button to press.

On Wed Jan 22 14:22:31 2014, lists at zopyx.com wrote:
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> I am not allowed to give feedback over whatever kind?
> The only right to exist for Zope is Plone. The only question
> is how deal with the legacy in a reasonable way and how to
> spend the money of the ZF in a reasonable way.
>
> Andreas
>
> Roger Ineichen wrote:
> > Hi Andreas
> >
> > I never understood your motiviation about your negative comments if
> > someone likes to improve something or make progress in a good
> > direction with zope.
> >
> > Can you explain the motivation behind your reaction?
> >
> > Regards Roger Ineichen
> >
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: foundation
> >> [mailto:foundation-bounces at zope.org] Im Auftrag von
> > Andreas Jung
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2014 13:42 An: Godefroid Chapelle
> >> Cc: Zope Foundation Betreff: Re: [ZF] Foundation goals survey
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014/1/21 Godefroid Chapelle <gotcha at bubblenet.be>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) fund specific critical development efforts
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Zope and its components are mature and devel. almost dead - it's
> >> legacy. Zero need to invest into a dead cow.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) fund targeted Zope sprints
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Zope sprint will only attract the "old" Zope faces...this won't
> >> work out
> > much.
> >>
> >> 3) fund a Zope Conference, either standalone or with another
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> see above
> >>
> >>
> >> 4) fund the creation of documentation showing Zope's capabilities
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> we failed a decade doing this- the time of Zope is over - waste of
> >> time...
> >>
> >>
> >> 5) encourage further porting of Zope onto Python 3
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1 - this is likely needed in the long term from the Plone
> >> community if
> > they want to
> >> move to Python 3.
> >>
> >>
> >> 6) cleanup and organize a Zope Consultant/Training resource
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For a legacy technology?
> >>
> >>
> >> 7) commission and maintain a roster of Zope usergroups
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The age of Zope user groups is dead - Python user groups
> >> yeah....but who would go to a Zope user group meeting? Yawn....I
> >> tried to revive a
> > local
> >> Zope user group some years ago...mission failed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 8) some kind of joint/merged effort with the Plone Foundation
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That's a possible idea.
> >>
> >> Sorry for my harsh but realistic views on the Zope world :-)
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >
> >
>
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