[Grok-dev] Re: Pushing for 1.0

Jan-Wijbrand Kolman janwijbrand at gmail.com
Wed Dec 19 12:36:04 EST 2007


Tres Seaver wrote:
> Tim Terlegård wrote:
>> On Dec 19, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
>>> In other words, I think it would be very good to see if we can start  
>>> the new year with a 1.0 release of Grok!
>>>
>>> What kind of issues do you think we really should address before  
>>> going 1.0?
>> What is 1.0 supposed to be, a stable release or something we want to  
>> brag to everyone about?
> 
>> In order to brag about this cool grok there are three things I miss:
>>    * viewlets
>>    * grokproject doing WSGI out of the box
>>    * a different security policy where I can put permissions on models
>>      instead of views. If I have 4 models and 100 views it may be better to
>>      protect the data by putting require on the models instead of the views.
>>      But maybe this already works?
> 
> If we're hoping to see wider Grok adoption, I think it needs to be
> possible to 'easy_install grok' and get a working environment, without
> requiring that non-Zope folks learn / use buildout (too much "koolaid"
> for many).

Isn't this covered at least to some extent by grokproject?

It's currently a matter of:

  $ easy_install grokproject
  $ grokproject MyCoolApp
  ...answering some questions...
  $ cd MyCoolApp
  $ ./bin/zopectl start

> That will require tightening up the dependency story further, and
> ensuring that the release of a "stray" egg doesn't make grok uninstallable.

Tightening up the dependency story is good anyway :-)

regards,
jw



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