[Grok-dev] Re: Benefits of Grok -- please contribute

Fernando Correa Neto fcdoth at gmail.com
Tue May 15 10:02:20 EDT 2007


On 5/13/07, Martin Aspeli <optilude at gmx.net> wrote:
> Sebastian Ware wrote:

> It's different - e.g., aspect orientation (adapters) and persistence (no

This can be dangerous.
I was discussing sometime ago in this list on how to sell ZODB.
Personally I love it, but the thing is that when you go selling
projects, 90% of the time you'll find a scenario like this:
IT Manager of the company: Ok, so you are going to implement your
Grok/Zope3 solution. Here you have my Oracle database for the beckend.
Have fun
ZODB lover: No, I have my own database for the application.
IT Manager: What? What database?
Time for the ZODB lover to get some creativity to convince that ZODB
is the way to go instead of his old fashion tabular-based SQL beckend
that can be managed/queried by other apps using a standard query
That hurts!! I know it hurts.
And believe me, if you try to sell Hybernate instead of ZODB, there is
a chance to be accepted. Why?

ZODB needs to gain popularity and be exposed.
Things that attract IT guys when picking the solutions for their
problems, among other things, is SQL storage.

I've gathered some material about ZODB and had a little discussion
with Christian and Martjin and the plan was to implement the content
for a zodb.zope.org the same way Sebastian Ware is trying to expose
Grok in a better manner, BUT due to the lack on time right now, I
can't do that much.


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