[Grok-dev] KGS and Grok

[Jan-Wijbrand Kolman]

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
> [snip]
>> I'd like to update the version of zope.app.publisher in grokcore.view
>> from the current 3.4.1 to the recently released 3.5.1 version to be able
>> to checkin the fix.
> 
> +1

OK. Will do. I actually want to make a bugfix release of grokcore.view
rightaway too, if that's ok.

>> The tests for grokcore.view do pass with this version, but what possible
>>  implications should I look for? How do we decide to up the version
>> requirement of a dependency?
> 
> Good questions.

yes :)

> KGS has ways to do run the tests against a whole bunch of packages. I 
> think we should have a way to run these tests for whatever Grok's 
> package listing is. Failing tests mean some action needs to be taken - 
> the simplest would be to upgrade whatever dependencies that fix the 
> breaking tests until it works.
> 
> Of course I'm handwaving on the details - I forget even where to find 
> the KGS stuff that does this. We should add a way to do this kind of 
> test to Grok's buildout and be done with it, I guess...
> 
> One of the problems is that the grokcore.* packages might end up using a 
> different KGS in their trunk as grok itself does. It'd be nice if we 
> could, in some way, share the list of versions between these packages. 
> KGS can do this of course, but we might get away with a shared 
> versions.cfg somewhere in SVN that all packages depend on with an external?
> 
> This means that Grok is going to run its own "Known Good Set" again and 
> diverge at least to some extent from Zope's KGS. I think that this is 
> what many Zope 3 projects are actually doing privately; the Zope 3 KGS 
> isn't moving forward very rapidly, and the whole idea of separate 
> packages is to give people the freedom to do stuff like this.
> 
> So if we can do this publicly for Grok, including releases, we'll be 
> improving the world for everybody. :)
> 
> For people who want to investigate and how this all works and devise a 
> Plan for Grok on this, please study the zope.release and zope.kgs 
> packages and report back to us with the plan. :)

...and then there was silence ;)

Good pointers. I'll have a look (again) at KGS and esp. how to get the
tests of all dependencies to run.

regards,
jw