[Grok-dev] unique item in container question

[Steve Schmechel]

I know how you feel.  I have struggled also because of gaps in the documentation that others, who are more familiar with Zope3, step over without a second thought.

I am working on a project also, so I decided to use my ignorance to, hopefully, benefit others by writing a tutorial based on my experience.

I am glad to hear that you are inclined to do the same.  Hopefully, through our efforts, we can make Grok more approachable to beginners.

A great thing about the Grok community, is that we do have many experienced developers that can answer questions when we need help. 

Thanks again to all of you who take the time every day to answer other peoples questions, offer suggestions, or review documentation.

It is the heart and soul of what makes Grok a success.


--- On Tue, 3/17/09, modiadi <adi at modiadi.com> wrote:

> I have to say that many simple things are hard to
> understand because  
> there are no docs about them.
> 
> As I am using grok for a project, I will make a list with
> those  
> undocumented issues. I will try to do at least a simple
> howto about  
> each item.
> Because I am a real beginer in grok/zope maybe it is easier
> for me to  
> see what is missing.
> 
> Thank for your help.
> 
> Adi
> 
> On Mar 17, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Steve Schmechel wrote:
> 
> >
> > Just to be clear about this:
> >
> > *** Knowing Zope3 is not a "prerequisite"
> for using Grok! ***
> >
> > Yes. Grok helps Zope3 developers by "Smashing
> ZCML".
> > At times, you will have to become familiar with a
> Zope3 component in  
> > order to use that component properly.
> >
> > However, Grok also wants be "more approachable
> and easier to learn",  
> > so I don't think we want to give the impression
> that you have to go  
> > away and learn Zope3 first.
> >
> > We should always take the initiative to point to the
> necessary Zope3  
> > documentation in the Grok documentation.  (It is often
> hard for a  
> > new developer to find what they need in the scattered
> Zope3  
> > documentation.  I know I was lost until I got
> Phillip's book.)
> >
> > I think the Grok documentation is starting to do this
> and as the  
> > tutorials and how-to's continue to develop, it
> will get easier.
> >
> > I'm not trying to admonish or preach about this. 
> I just want to  
> > make sure that Grok continues to welcome non-Zope
> developers.
> >
> > Quotes from the Grok home page:
> >
> > - Grok is a web application framework for Python
> developers. It is  
> > aimed at both beginners and very experienced web
> developers.
> >
> > - While Grok is based on Zope 3, and benefits a lot
> from it, you do  
> > not need to know Zope at all in order to get
> productive with Grok.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steve
> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Souheil CHELFOUH
> <trollfot at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yes, you should
> >> This is not really grok related, it's more
> about the
> >> form system
> >> Have a look at formlib, that will help you have a
> global
> >> picture !
> >>
> >> - Trollfot
> >>
> >> 2009/3/17 modiadi <adi at modiadi.com>:
> >>> Case closed !
> >>>
> >>> This is the solution, thanks !
> >>>
> >>> After searching this solution on grok dev and
> not
> >> finding it, I wonder
> >>> if I miss some important informations about
> grok.
> >> Should I read or
> >>> learn something else before grok(like zope3)?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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