[Grok-dev] ZTK 2.0 process and Grok

Aroldo Souza-Leite asouzaleite at gmx.de
Thu Feb 28 10:59:11 UTC 2013

Hi JW,

thanks a lot for looking at this.

@Leonardo, yes, bringing Grok towards Python3 and PyPy is a very 
exciting aim.

@Grok community: do you envision any action the ZF could take to support 
the ZTK development  so as to make these aims for Grok easier to achieve?



On 27.02.2013 19:03, Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
> It would be super cool to be able to say that Grok works with Python 3
> and/or Pypy.
> But I don't currently posses the bandwidth to invest in such a
> project, except perhaps in a sprint.
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
> <janwijbrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Recently people on the zope dev list started looking into a "ZTK 2.0"
>> process. Quite a lot of the ZTK packages have been ported to Python 3,
>> and it is time to get the dust off of the ZTK.
>> What does this mean for Grok?
>> Well, it means to Grok whatever we want it to.
>> * We could do nothing and have Grok use the ZTK 1.1.x indefinitely. This
>> is in a way what is happening already.
>> * We could try to get on the ZTK 2.0 bandwagon. This would probably mean
>> we need to take over maintainership of some of the zope.app.* packages
>> that a vanilla-Grok based application still uses. ZTK 2.0 will probably
>> drop support for the zope.app.* packages.
>> * We could try to get on the ZTk 2.0 bandwagon *and* try to get "our"
>> stuff ported to Python 3 as well. This is considerably more work, as the
>> whole basis of martian needs to be changed in that case.
>> I'll to keep an eye on what the ZTK 2.0 is doing. I expressed my
>> interest in ZTK 2.0 developments from both a personal (and Grok) and
>> from a business perspective on the zope dev list.
>> Of course I'd like to know your thoughts as well!
>> regards, jw
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