[Grok-dev] here's a crazy thought: a grok sprint?

Aroldo Souza-Leite asouzaleite at gmx.de
Mon May 19 22:20:27 CEST 2014

Hi JW,

I don't think your thought is crazy at all. On the contrary, perhaps the
mad ones are the rest of us, who have been neglecting Grok for no
rational reason I can think of.

I find the suggested sprint topics so far obviously useful. Do you think
 trying to take a realistic look at Grok's current location  in the
 Great  Scheme of Pythonic Things could also be one of the sprint
 topics? Just blotting a red spot on the map with the underline "We are

Many thanks for your work anyway.

Best regards,



Jan-Wijbrand Kolman <janwijbrand at gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
> Here's a crazy thought: what about having a Grok sprint?
> I must be mad thinking this would be at all usefull...?
> My idea would be to gather the selection of small changes we did since
> the last official release, clean up groktoolkit, release it, bring the
> current grok website down and launch a small new website (kinda like a
> "readthedocs" thing) explaining the current status etc.
> Why would I want to suggest this?
> The reasons are twofold:
> * It would be fun I think, to meet up with the few people that are
> still using Grok or some of its legacy.
> * The current website and everything give a highly unfinished and
> abandoned feel. This in fact is not far from the truth ;) but I like
> the idea to clean things up and explain the state of the project.
> To be clear:
> * At my work, we're still using Grok. And thus ZTK. And there's no
> plan to move away from it any time soon. For us, the underpinnings of
> our application still serve us well for now.
> * My idea for this sprint is explicitly low-ambition. Of course I'm
> every now and then fantasizing about porting Grok to Python 3, now
> that a lot of ZTK packages are supposed to run on Python 3. And we
> could of course spend time on such, or completely different, ideas if
> there's any common ground for it.
> Ok, let the laughing begin... I **am** being silly here, right..? ;)
> Or does anyone actually like the idea..?
> regards, jw
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