[Zope-CMF] CMFDecor troubles

Andrew Sawyers andrew@digicool.com
Thu, 26 Jul 2001 08:29:48 -0700


Phil,
It makes sense, and you're exactly right.  Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Chris M and I spoke about quite awhile back about possible work arounds we
might want to do for FrontPage due to the issues raised by Jon.  Don't know
if anything will happen though.....
Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Harris" <phil.harris@zope.co.uk>
To: "Andrew Sawyers" <andrew@digicool.com>; "Jon Edwards"
<jon@pcgs.freeserve.co.uk>; "Zope-Cmf" <zope-cmf@zope.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] CMFDecor troubles


> AFAIK the biggest problem is that FP expects to find directories called:
>
> _vti_txt
> _vti_script
> _vti_pvt
>
> and etc.
>
> As you probably know, Zope doesn't allow names in the ZODB to start with _
> (underscore).  This will cause no end of problems.
>
> I've put a very small amount of thought into it and the only 'fix' I can
> come up with is to front Zope with Apache and use the apache Rewrite
module
> to fool FP into thinking the folders are there even when they are actually
> on an Apache 'htdocs' type folder structure.
>
> I hope that makes sense.
>
> Phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Sawyers" <andrew@digicool.com>
> To: "Jon Edwards" <jon@pcgs.freeserve.co.uk>; "Zope-Cmf"
<zope-cmf@zope.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] CMFDecor troubles
>
>
> > Rest assured that support for the DTML based skins won't go away; just
my
> > new look and feel changes are only going in ZPT.  Just consider it an
> > additional skin.  Bugs I've found will be fixed in the DTML stylesheet
as
> > well.
> > I've heard we have problems with inegrating very well with FrontPage.  I
> > forget exactly why, but it has to do with some files it creates outside
of
> > your html files.  If I had it, I would try it out to give a little
better
> > input; anyone up for this?
> > A final note, I jumped the gun a little bit yesterday about what I had
> hoped
> > for the filesystem based ZPT and GUI editors.  It's definately better
then
> > the current CVS checkout, but I had forgotten there will be problems
> working
> > off the filesystem with unexpanded macros.  Working through webdav will
> get
> > macros expanded; unfortunately other problems will arise.  We're still
> > working this out....so it's not going to be quite as nice as I predictd
at
> > this point.
> > Andrew
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Edwards" <jon@pcgs.freeserve.co.uk>
> > To: "Zope-Cmf" <zope-cmf@zope.org>
> > Cc: <andrew@digicool.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Zope-CMF] CMFDecor troubles
> >
> >
> > > > Personally I am migrating to the camp Presentation belongs in ZPT
and
> > > logic
> > > > in Python Scripts or file system python modules.  I know there is
> still
> > a
> > > > need for DTML (I just don't know what it is well enough to iterate
it)
> > and
> > > > thus would recommend to those who are planning on doing skins to go
> the
> > > ZPT
> > > > route versus trying to provide both.
> > >
> > > A couple of questions (both of which may cause rocks to be thrown at
me!
> > :-)
> > >
> > > 1. Please, please, please reassure us that DTML skins will still be
> > > supported/updated, even if they're only basic ones and the "pretty
> stuff"
> > is
> > > done with ZPT!
> > >
> > > 2. Has anyone experimented with MS Frontpage (as opposed to
Dreamweaver
> or
> > > GoLive) for this kinda editing-with-ZPT? MS Office is pretty much
> > > standard-issue in our market, so lots of users have Frontpage... and
> some
> > > have even used it! :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers, Jon
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> >
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