[Zope-CMF] ZVMF vs. MSCMS

[Gitte Wange]

On Sunday 02 September 2001 01:02, you wrote:
> 5) Isn't the case that when you set the metadata properties you have the
> option to set the Effective date and Expiration Date
> to manage this.
>
> Norman

And I think that meta data is one of the best things about Zope/CMF !

If your data is just saved with some specific data (such as a title, a 
description, a creator etc.) you are able to share your data with other 
portals (portals that also saves their meta data with those specific meta 
data).

But does MS also have this ??
Or are they having their own, closed standards about meta data ??

Gitte

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-cmf-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-cmf-admin@zope.org]On Behalf
> Of Joachim Werner
> Sent: 01 September 2001 17:48
> To: Thomas Olsen; zope-cmf@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] ZVMF vs. MSCMS
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Just some additional comments where I had some ...
>
> > 1) In-Context Authoring Templates
> > Allow content contributors to build and contribute richly formatted
>
> content
>
> > in easy-to-use templates without leaving the Web site.
> >
> > check. but the "richly formatted" is still in the works I guess
>
> With IEMethods and the like this is not a problem ...
>
> > 2) Real-Time Content Updates
> > Enable content contributors to publish content directly onto development,
> > staging or live production Web servers.
> >
> > check - although I've never tried Zopes versioning feature.
>
> Both versioning and the different approach the CMF goes (cataloging content
> as "published" as soon as it is reviewed and approved) work fine, though
> there are some scenarios that can become complicated: E.g. what about
> having multiple versions of a document in the pipe? Versions wouldn't do
> that because they will block having another version on the same document
> and the CMF mechanism can't easily do this either.
>
> > 3) Revision Tracking and Page Archiving
> > As pages are updated, existing versions are automatically archived. Users
>
> can
>
> > easily compare changes of previous work with existing pages.
> >
> > I think the undo mechanism is great but it's not quite the same.
>
> But the HISTORY is ...
>
> > 4) Flexible Workflow
> > Multiple levels of approval ensure that content is always reviewed and
> > approved before it goes live on the Web site.
> >
> > check
>
> Yes. The CMF can probably be very flexible with the new DC workflow.
>
> > 5) Content Scheduling
> > Using automated scheduling tools, users can schedule content publication
>
> and
>
> > archival times.
> >
> > check
>
> Though there are no ready-to-use tools in Zope for that ...
>
> > 17) UNICODE Support
> > Support for multi-byte character sets means sites can be built in any of
>
> the
>
> > world's major languages.
> >
> > Guess this is supported? Input?
>
> Don't know about the details, but at least with the UNICODE patches that
> are available this should be no problem ...
>
> > 18) Language-Specific Content Targeting
> > Allow content contributors to target localized content objects to
> > specific users based on individual language preferences.
> >
> > Whats the status on this?
>
> Nothing official from ZC, but with ZBabel and Localizer (both a bit
> immature but powerful) you can do great multi-language sites
>
> > 19) Multilingual Site Support
> > Support for multiple languages within single Web sites.
> >
> > see 18
> >
> >
> > 20) Quick Installation
> > Content Management Server installs easily through simple installation
>
> wizards.
>
> > well - I prefer tar balls :-)
>
> And on Windows we have a super-simple setup.exe program ...
>
> > 21) Sample Templates and Web Sites
> > Sample templates, Web sites, and customization code are all included in
>
> the
>
> > box.
> >
> > check
>
> But more samples couldn't hurt ...
>
> > 23) Template and Resource Galleries
> > Templates and Web site resources are managed centrally on the server
>
> through
>
> > Template Galleries and Resource Galleries to ensure centralized control
>
> over
>
> > corporate publishing and design standards.
> >
> > check: Portal tools
>
> Is that really what MS is talking about?
>
> > 26) Windows Active Directory Services (ADS)
> > Use existing ADS and NT Domain directory services for security.
> >
> > check:  LoginManager etc (don't know about ADS - does anybody use it at
>
> all?)
>
> ADS = LDAP = supported by Zope ...
>
> > 27) XML
> > Templates that publish content in XML format can easily be built.
> >
> > check
> >
> > Conclusion: All in all I think ZCMF is pretty nice in the lead technology
> > wise. What the management types miss is simply the shrinkwrap and an
> > all-in-one package...
>
> I'd not be THAT positive, but considering the price tag and a couple of
> rather unique features (like the ZODB and all the power Python gives Zope),
> Zope has a very good position. I just fear that Microsoft is going to
> copy@paste even more features from Zope ...
>
> Joachim
>
>
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