[Zope-CMF] getToolByName depreciation, getUtility, and five.lsm

[Martin Aspeli]

Tres Seaver wrote:
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> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
>> Hanno Schlichting wrote:
>>> I would say that all of Acquisition is dark implicit magic and something
>>> I expect when developing in Zope 2. When using Zope 3 concepts in Zope 2
>>> I also expect the need to make the Zope 3 code Acquisition aware. One
>>> prime example are browser views, which I need to mix in Acquisition in
>>> order for them to work.
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>> But Products.Five.BrowserView hides that particular detail from you, as 
>> much as getToolByName could hide the acquisition detail when looking up 
>> tools.
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>> You're suggesting to introduce yet another package that's destined to go 
>> a way at some point, while the same functionality is already available, 
>> it only needs to be un-deprecated...
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> +1 for removing the "across-the-board" deprecation of 'getToolByName';
> I find Kapil's argument convincing here.  I think leaving the
> deprecation for the case where the API has to fall back to raw
> acquisition to find the tool is pretty reasonable, as it shows the user
> where the missing registrations are in her site.
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> I'm not sure what impact that would have for the already-converted code
> which used to use the API.  I can see value both in leaving it
> converted, as showing the Zope3-ish way, as well as in reverting some or
> all of it.  For instance, perhaps we should consider reverting just
> those changes which look up acquisition-dependent tools, since the call
> site has now become required to manage the wrapper itself.
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Do we have any idea *which* tools are "acquisition-dependent" and which ones
are not? By this, I mean which tools expect to be able to acquire things
from 'self', for example, not so much acquisition-dependent security around
tools being accessed TTW.

Martin
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