[Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3

Shane Hathaway shane@digicool.com
Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:49:55 -0500


Andy McKay wrote:
> 
> Come on, can someone post some sample screenshots?

http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/new_ui.png

Shane

> --
>   Andy McKay.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Dawkins" <andyd@nipltd.com>
> To: "Brian Lloyd" <brian@digicool.com>; <zope-dev@zope.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:39 AM
> Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
> 
> > Well just to be completely different to everyone else, I like the new
> look.
> >
> > The bar at the top takes up a centimeter on my 20in monitor and it doesn't
> > bother me in the slightest.
> >
> > I think Brain is right, People have been asking for DC to give Zope a face
> > lift and now its got one you are all complaining about it.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong the points you raised are valid but you are complaining
> > about 32 pixels.  Give it a week and you won't know what you were
> > complaining about.
> >
> > Overall it gets the thumbs up from me. :)
> >
> > -Andy
> > (P.S. Why hasn't the acl_users folder got the same style of
> > shaded/non-shaded rows, Just a consistancy thang :)
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: zope-dev-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-dev-admin@zope.org]On Behalf
> > > Of Brian Lloyd
> > > Sent: 12 January 2001 02:12
> > > To: Steve Alexander; zope-dev@zope.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think the new UI for 2.3 is great improvement over 2.2.
> > > >
> > > > I'm already finding the sorted tables of folder contents useful, and
> > > > having the add new items select at the top saves time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, I do not like the 3-frame interface. I feel that the top
> frame
> > > > is wasted space. The Zope logo and "Logged in as username | Logout"
> > > > could as easily go at the bottom of the tree-view frame on the left.
> > > > This would leave extra screen space for doing work.
> > > >
> > > > I realize that I can make the frame smaller by dragging it with my
> > > > mouse. I do a lot of TTW development, and I think I might find that
> > > > cumbersome, so I guess I'll be hacking the top frame out of my
> > > > management interface :-)
> > >
> > > Are you guys working on 486's with 13in. monitors at 640x480 or
> > > something? :^)
> > >
> > > Seriously - Zope has been criticized for a very long time for
> > > being, ah, aesthetically challenged :) It is a valid criticism
> > > - we have been (and quite honestly, will continue to be) more
> > > concerned with function over form. But is it really so bad to
> > > make a 32 pixel-high concession to a small pittance of branding?
> > >
> > > I know that "branding" isn't important for those who are already
> > > believers, but Zope has grown enough that its reasonable to put
> > > some effort into "first impression factor". It doesn't help the
> > > community for reviews to come out that waste words on the
> > > visual appeal shortcomings of the UI and totally miss the
> > > point. A better first impression is a Good Thing.
> > >
> > > The top frame is also a place where we might want to put more
> > > "placeless" operations like logout in the future. You can only
> > > jam so much into the tree pane without it looking very much
> > > like way too much is being jammed into the tree pane :) FWIW,
> > > one of the things we may put there later is a way to do "browser
> > > preferences" via cookies to control things like default text
> > > area sizes. That could also have a "hide top frame" option for
> > > those who really can't spare the 32px. :^)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian Lloyd        brian@digicool.com
> > > Software Engineer  540.371.6909
> > > Digital Creations  www.digicool.com
> > >
> > >
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