[Zope-dev] FreeBSD, Zope and Plone

[Tim McLaughlin]

Glad to see more Zopes out there are on FreeBSD... We actually haven't seen any of these issues on our systems; we're using the FreeBSD Python 2.1.1 port and Zope 2.5.1.  We're not running Plone either though.

I sincerely hope BSD doesn't become second class for running Zope :/

Tim

Casey Duncan wrote:
> In my experience, python crashes on FreeBSD are due to the default thread 
> stack size problem exclusively. I run Python/Zope with complex sites all the 
> time (not plone tho) and once patched appropriately it never crashes unless I 
> cause it to.
> 
> There are two solutions to this IMHO:
> 
> 1. Release a bug fix in Python (hasn't happened yet, but it has been discussed 
> several times)
> 
> 2. Patch the FreeBSD python port. This is likely an excellent solution and one 
> which could also solve the large file support issue simulaneously.
> 
> Unless PythonLabs tells me that 2.1.4 will fix these things, I will work on 
> making this happen this week. I will also see how plone behaves on my BSD box 
> (firstly I guess).
> 
> -Casey
> 
> On Monday 16 September 2002 03:11 pm, alan runyan wrote:
> 
>>I have just spent several hours trying to get plone.org back up.
>>It appears that Plone and FreeBSD are not made for each other.
>>I end up getting core dumps.  I applied the 'thread stack' patch.
>>I also tried to use Python2.2.1 w/ chrism_installer branch and
>>I get the same results.  
>>
>>I am most likely going to move away from FreeBSD to Linux -
>>which is a shame, one less FreeBSD/Zope/Plone combination
>>running in the wild.  I know the iMeme guys have Plone running
>>but I have seen really freakish behavior there as well.  So I am
>>giving up.  If someone wants to hand hold me - I will try again
>>but in a few minutes I'm moving the Data.fs file to a linux box
>>and trying to get plone.org back up.
>>
>>Notes from my experience:
>>- chrism_installer_branch is *very very* nice - thanks ChrisM.
>>
>>- seemingly large file support is never turned on by default in
>>python tarballs.  I think this is a shame.  I dont know the reasons
>>but reading the posix large file page is very scary.  Zope Corp
>>should always enable large file support on all of their python
>>interpreters. 
>>
>>- Its really depressing that Python/FreeBSD/Plone have this problem.
>>iirc yahoo.com runs lots of FreeBSD boxens running python for
>>some of their services.  but the fact that I have spent some 3 hours
>>trying to get all of this to work and Plone still causes python to
>>core dump is a huge shame.  CMF sites work fine.  Plone site crash.
>>I have never seen Plone crash on either win32 or linux.  This is
>>FreeBSD problem.
>>
>>please help make Zope/Python/*BSD work together gurus - your
>>our only hope.  I remember asking the python maintainer to up
>>the thread stack size in python2.1.2 and his response was something
>>like - if your requiring more than whats allocated you have serious
>>problems.
>>
>>~runyaga
>>
>>
>>
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