Paul Winkler wrote: >>>I don't know what your intention is there, but fwiw, if >>>what you're *really* interested in is the object being >>>marked for deletion in the ZODB, you can use: >> >>I'm pretty sure that only works in Zope, > > so? the O.P. was about zope, and this IS the zope-dev list... Yup, but ZODB != Zope... Chris