[Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

Hanno Schlichting hanno at hannosch.eu
Mon May 3 16:26:47 EDT 2010


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Martijn Faassen <faassen at startifact.com> wrote:
> Last december Hanno made progress on the ZTK's dependency structure,
> removing a lot of dependencies on packages. In his enthusiasm, he
> unilaterally just removed all those suddenly-unneeded (by him!) packages
> from the ZTK, without discussion.

My actions last December had an unfortunate effect. I assumed a common
understanding of what the ZTK should be and tried to work towards
that, but it turned out that understanding wasn't shared after all. I
should have known better and discussed things before taking any
actions. For not discussing things properly I apologize. In didn't see
any chance of making any progress during the heated debate following
those events, so I decided to let things cool off and let everyone
work on their own for a while.

> No, I cannot present it less acrimoniously. The lack of commitment and
> trust displayed back then still hurts me too much for that.

Martijn and me tried to discuss this off-list. I think at this stage
there's no way to solve our disagreement. I'd rather not continue any
of this in public, as I don't see how this would have any constructive
effect.

The Zope community asked Christophe, Jan-Wijbrand and me to act as a
release team for the ZTK and we started working on this task. I intend
to continue to work in this group. If the Zope community feels I'm not
qualified for the job or the other two team members don't want to work
with me, I'll happily step down.

Hanno


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