[ZWeb] RE: Commercial Ads on Zope.org front page

Jim Fulton jim at zope.com
Thu Aug 26 05:42:27 EDT 2004


Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> Yep, this is a reasonable and fair response on those items.  Last year
> there was some trouble sometimes getting answers on this mailing list,
> but it looks like things are quite responsive now.
> 
> Is Chris the "editor" where the buck stops on editorial decisions? 

No.  Mark Pratt is in charge of the content-management group
for Zope.org, so he has authority.  Obviously, the whole group here
has a say and we need to be fair.

Jim


> 
> Brian Lloyd wrote:
> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2004, at 2:31 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
>>> [Brian]
>>>
>>>> I was responding to Pauls assertion that:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Zope.org should not be used as a commercial vehicle for any company in
>>>>> the Zope universe.  The only exception should be a non-descript credit
>>>>> on the home page labeling ZC as the sponsor of Zope.org.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I dont think I need to add anything to my previous response ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> [Paul]
>>> Sorry, I didn't intend my blanket statement to extend beyond the 
>>> front page and the navigation pages (and other common every-page 
>>> boxes).  Re-reading it, I obviously said it wrong.
>>>
>>> Of course things like the ZSP page and the Zope Sites page can 
>>> highlight commercial successes.  However, this must be done fairly.  
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>   http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered/
>>>
>>> What is common about those first highlighted entries?  This wasn't 
>>> there on the previous zope.org.  This was done at some point during 
>>> the transition, and real human work was done to implement this policy.
>>
>>
>>
>> That is correct, and the human was me. Otherwise, that page was 
>> totally broken and displayed a traceback. That is not meant to cast 
>> blame, but to answer your question. The current set of bubbas in 
>> charge of zope.org content are totally free to change that page. There 
>> is no policy, implicit or explicit, about that page. At the time of 
>> the transition, I wanted it to a) not show an error and b) reflect 
>> some positive zope-powered names in the least possible amount of time 
>> to get the site live. Period.
>>
>>
>>> [Paul]
>>> This is the same on the front page...the training spotlights are all, 
>>> if I understand correctly, commercially related in a certain way.  If 
>>> the policy is that any training company can get an announcement in 
>>> there, then that's a fair policy.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have yet to deny anyone who's asked a listing there (and don't 
>> intend to), so I hope we can agree that the policy is fair.
>>
>>
>> Brian Lloyd        brian at zope.com
>> V.P. Engineering   540.361.1716              Zope Corporation   
>> http://www.zope.com
>>
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