[Zope] RE: zope: edit link at bottom (was: Simple "What You See Is What You Edit" feature)

chas panda@skinnyhippo.com
Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:10:19 +0800


>I understand your frustration with the learning curve.  I think a lot of it
>is just that Zope is so flexible and powerful that it would be overwhelming
>even if you had all the documentation in front of you. 

Sure would be nice to suffer from that problem :-)

>Another thing I've been doing is to download the mail list archives, save
>them as text,

The Archives *are* the Zope documentation right now. 

> and then use at text indexer (I'm using the 30-day evaluation
>version of dtSearch - www.dtsearch.com, in my opinion the best around) to
>search for answers to my questions. 
> I really wish they'd put the archives
>into a zcatalog so they could be searched using boolean logic, but until
>then, this is one of the most powerful ways to find answers (and code) to
>your questions.  

Seems like this would actually be a superb product - "mailing list archiver".
Threading in particular would be a great plus. 

Which brings me finally (see i wasn't just being crass) to the question and
point : for Zope to be used in groupware (or in the 'mailing list archiver'),
it needs to integrate with email seemlessly - as in, mail can be sent to 
the server (not to a person) for agents to handle. So, what's the best method
of making this happen ? Send to a traditional email address (eg. using qmail
or sendmail on the server) then pipe to a python script which then does what ?
seems a bit yukky.

>Gradually, I've been able to put a lot of answers together between the
>documentation I'm accumulating, searching the list archives using dtSearch,
>experimenting with Zope (versions and the interface really encourage trying
>things out), reading the source (Python is surprisingly readable), and (last
>ditch) emailing the list, where I've invariably gotten great help.

Looks like 500 of us are doing duplicating this :)
Reminds me of the Livewire list in '96 <yikes>

chas