[ZOPE] newbie question: getting title_or_id from calling document

Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:46:38 +0100

Thanks for the swift reply Trevor, very much appreciated.

I think I understand what you mean, but I'm unsure as to the solution.

I've recreated the header and the index_html as DTML methods, both in
the same folder, and know get the folder name as the title, as expected
based on what you said in your email. I then created another header
(public_header) and test (testing) DTML methods, and get the same
results when I try to display the title/ID of the calling document in
the public_header DTML method.

I'm at a loss on how to proceed to solve my problem.

Can anyone help?

Thanks for your time,
Simon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor Toenjes [mailto:zope@toenjes.com]
Sent: 15 October 2001 18:28
To: Simon Brogden; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [ZOPE] newbie question: getting title_or_id from calling
document

>From one Newbie to another...

DTML-methods inherit the properties of the calling container.  In many
cases, this is the folder that is being rendered.  So the index_html
that is
called from the folder, takes on the properties, title, id, etc, from
that
folder.  This assumes that index_html is a method and not a Doc.
It took me a couple weeks using Zope to realize that the default folder
set-up that includes index_html as a document should seldom be used...
<read...never>  (Actually I suggest that this should be removed from the
ZMI, because it trips up most newbies.  Or at least give the option to
create index_html as a method.)
Most of the Zopistas have told me that DTML-Documents are bad.
In general you will mostly want to use Methods for everything that is an
object or part of a template.
DTML-Documents are good for just content. <read...text.>

And consider the emminent message from anyone saying "USE ZPT instead of
DTML".  ;)

-Trevor

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Simon
> Brogden
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 1:05 PM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [ZOPE] newbie question: getting title_or_id from calling
> document
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm trying to create a standard_header that when included in a
document
> uses the calling documents namespace. So, if the standard_header was:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title><dtml-var title_or_id></title
> </head>
> ...
> ...
>
> and the index_html document had as it's first line:
> <dtml-var standard_header>
>
> How can I make the standard header DTML document write the title/ID of
> index_html or any of the documetns that call/include it?.
>
> Apologies in advance if I'm being thick.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon.
>
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