From zerkani_user_list@snet.net  Sun Mar  2 05:43:08 2003
From: zerkani_user_list@snet.net (zerkani_user_List)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 00:43:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] newbie -after installation
Message-ID: <200302040040.h140eWcY000652@mta3.snet.net>

	
I recently installad zope 2.5.1 on a debian machine and everything went well. 
I proved tid and passwod to zope duriing the installation. process as it 
asked.  

After the installation ,I successfuly accessed the zope through browser, but 
When I clicked on the "Zope Management Interface" page, and  input  the same 
id and passowrd which I provided during the installation, but it did not 
accept my id and password. I am not sure what went wrong and where to go from 
here.  Can anyone help and point me to the right direction. 

Thanks in adance !

Zerkani


From zerkani_user_list@snet.net  Sun Mar  2 06:34:58 2003
From: zerkani_user_list@snet.net (zerkani_user_List)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 01:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Zope] newbie -after installation
In-Reply-To: <200302032021.48654.fraser@wehave.net>
References: <200302040040.h140eWcY000652@mta3.snet.net> <200302032021.48654.fraser@wehave.net>
Message-ID: <200302040159.h141xIcY007863@mta3.snet.net>

Thanks Fraser.  It worked. Instead of Admin, I used a different id.

Thanks again for your help!

Zerkani


On Monday 03 February 2003 20:21, Fraser Campbell wrote:
> zerkani_user_List wrote:
> > I recently installad zope 2.5.1 on a debian machine and everything went
> > well. I proved tid and passwod to zope duriing the installation. process
> > as it asked.
> >
> > After the installation ,I successfuly accessed the zope through browser,
> > but When I clicked on the "Zope Management Interface" page, and  input 
> > the same id and passowrd which I provided during the installation, but it
> > did not accept my id and password. I am not sure what went wrong and
> > where to go from here.  Can anyone help and point me to the right
> > direction.
>
> I was in the same situation myself a few days ago.  I'm not sure if the
> Deian installer scripts screwed it up or if I just forgot the password.  I
> am using the unstable Debian distribution and zope package version
> 2.5.1-2.7
>
> You can reset the password by running this command as root:
>
>   zope-zpasswd  -u Admin -p xxxxxx /var/lib/zope/access
>
> My emergency user was Admin, I suppose the emergency username can be
> changed, if so just look at that file to verify the username that you have.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Fraser


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sat Mar  1 04:47:13 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:47:13 +0400
Subject: [Zope] List subfolders within any folder
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0EA@AUHEXCH>

I had a similar problem. 

The tree does not seem to work if called from a DTML document, but is OK
when called from a DTML Method. Try calling the original __DTML Method__
from another __DTML Method__. 

Dieter Maurer pointed me in the right direction. There are more details on
this in the original mail. Also, another recent thread recommends using
"ZUtils" for site trees.

Samir.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Fox [mailto:Michael@CenturySoftware.com.au]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 08:33
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] List subfolders within any folder


Hi *,

I'm having problems with a relatively easy task. I have a DTML Method which
contains:

<dtml-in expr="objectValues('Folder')" sort="title" skip_unauthorized>
  <li><a href="&dtml-absolute_url;"><dtml-var title_or_id></a></li>
</dtml-in>

Which when I "view" on it's own happily lists the folders within my root
folder.

Yet somehow when I reference this object with another DTML Document, it list
nothing?!

Any help appreciated.

Regards,
Michael

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From djmitchell@optushome.com.au  Sat Mar  1 08:47:10 2003
From: djmitchell@optushome.com.au (David Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:47:10 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Returning a random image from a folder
Message-ID: <200303011947.10260.djmitchell@optushome.com.au>

Going mad with this one...

I'm trying to write a Python script to return a random image from a specified 
folder.  For example, here's how I may want to call it from a ZPT page:

<span tal:replace="randomImage('Advertisements/BannerAds') / >

My randomImage Python script is as follows (where 'directory' is the parameter 
being passed to the script):

  import string
  import random

  directory_context = string.replace("/", ".", directory)
  return directory + "/" + 
random.choice(context.directory_context.objectValues('Image'))

Some of you may recognize this as being almost an exact copy of the script on 
p151 of "The Zope Book", with the only difference being that I'm trying to 
pass a folder name as a parameter.

I'm pretty sure I need to do the directory_context step, but I can't get it to 
work either with or without it.  Where I'm really struggling is in getting my 
head around the context stuff.

Can anyone offer me some assistance?

Thanks in advance

Dave Mitchell


From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sat Mar  1 08:57:36 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 09:57:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Returning a random image from a folder
In-Reply-To: <200303011947.10260.djmitchell@optushome.com.au>
References: <200303011947.10260.djmitchell@optushome.com.au>
Message-ID: <61733448.1046512656@[192.168.0.2]>

Take a look at the restrictedTraverse() method to traverse to an
object by its path e.g.=20
context.restrictedTraverse('/path/to/ads/bannerads').

-aj

--On Samstag, 1. M=E4rz 2003 19:47 +1100 David Mitchell=20
<djmitchell@optushome.com.au> wrote:

> Going mad with this one...
>
> I'm trying to write a Python script to return a random image from a
> specified  folder.  For example, here's how I may want to call it from a
> ZPT page:
>
> <span tal:replace=3D"randomImage('Advertisements/BannerAds') / >
>
> My randomImage Python script is as follows (where 'directory' is the
> parameter  being passed to the script):
>
>   import string
>   import random
>
>   directory_context =3D string.replace("/", ".", directory)
>   return directory + "/" +
> random.choice(context.directory_context.objectValues('Image'))
>
> Some of you may recognize this as being almost an exact copy of the
> script on  p151 of "The Zope Book", with the only difference being that
> I'm trying to  pass a folder name as a parameter.
>
> I'm pretty sure I need to do the directory_context step, but I can't get
> it to  work either with or without it.  Where I'm really struggling is in
> getting my  head around the context stuff.
>
> Can anyone offer me some assistance?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Dave Mitchell
>
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From tim@xxvii.net  Sat Mar  1 09:00:09 2003
From: tim@xxvii.net (Tim)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 04:00:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] VideoCapture module fails under Zope on Win32
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <162114162366.20030301040009@Vex.Net>

Dylan wrote on Friday, February 28, 2003, 12:06:00 PM:
> It might be a permissions issue.  Is Zope running as a service?

Nice to get all these suggestions from you and Stefan. Zope was not
running as a service (for development i run it manually so i can see
any stdout/stderr more easily), but i just tried it as a service with
the same results (it doesn't work). This XP box has just one account
with full Administrator privileges (yeah, bad, i know).

> If that doesn't straighten things out, could you provide a snip of the code 
> that works at the CLI but doesn't work in your product and any traceback 
> you're getting?

There's not much code to show. But I'll be happy to give a complete
report below for anyone willing to spare valuable time to look at it.

Trying to isolate the problem, i made things as minimal as possible.
The following few lines are a module which runs fine from the CLI, but
when in my tiny little minimal product import this module and call the
function ... it doesn't work. It's the call to Device() that fails.

--- vidtest.py ---

from VideoCapture import Device

def getdev():
    cam = Device(devnum=0)
    return cam

if __name__ == '__main__':
    print getdev()

---end of vidtest.py---

>From the command line:

> "h:\Program Files\ozope\bin\python.exe"  vidtest.py
<VideoCapture.Device instance at 008800BC>

Now here is the zope product test method:

    def test(self):
        "public"
        import vidtest
        return vidtest.getdev()

Results from zope:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module Products.ZVideoCapture.ZVideoCapture, line 32, in test
  Module Products.ZVideoCapture.vidtest, line 4, in getdev
  Module VideoCapture, line 49, in __init__
Error: Creation of the filter graph failed.


-- 
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x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | unpitying orchestra struck up a polka. -D



From ddn@vip.cybercity.dk  Sat Mar  1 10:06:47 2003
From: ddn@vip.cybercity.dk (Danny Nielsen)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 11:06:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] objects invisible
Message-ID: <oprlco1liyf3fs5e@localhost>

Hi there. First I have to say that Im very glad that this group exists.

Now the problem:
Im a zope newbie and have startet making a product solely through Python 
(leaving the management interface behind!). Inside my product object I want 
to make a folder containing images. My problem is that when I create 
folders and images through Python it aint visible in the management 
interface. How to I make them visible?

Secund, can someone explain to me what implicit objects are available so Im 
able to communicate with Zope (I have had a hard time trying to figure out 
howto communicate with Zope through a Python product - the docs API aint 
well documented)

regards
Danny
-- 
Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sat Mar  1 10:26:53 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:26:53 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0EE@AUHEXCH>

Hello all,

My manager has requested comments on whether Zope "performs like a dog". I'm
doing some digging around at the moment, but, in the meantime, if anyone has
any links to recommend, benchmarks, experiences to share, that I can use to
counter his 'assertion', it would be much appreciated. 

Thanks.

Regards,
Samir.


From milos.prudek@tiscali.cz  Sat Mar  1 15:07:54 2003
From: milos.prudek@tiscali.cz (Milos Prudek)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:07:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] management_page_charset
Message-ID: <3E60CCCA.5040209@tiscali.cz>

Hi,

What are the acceptable values for management_page_charset ?

Where should this property be placed, so that it applies for the whole 
site ?

-- 
Milos Prudek



From mj@zope.com  Sat Mar  1 17:32:33 2003
From: mj@zope.com (Martijn Pieters)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:32:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0EE@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0EE@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <20030301173233.GI22692@zope.com>

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 02:26:53PM +0400, Samir Mishra wrote:
> My manager has requested comments on whether Zope "performs like a dog". I'm
> doing some digging around at the moment, but, in the meantime, if anyone has
> any links to recommend, benchmarks, experiences to share, that I can use to
> counter his 'assertion', it would be much appreciated. 

Zope performs like a greyhound running CBSNewYork.com and other VTS
properties. It did so even with the recent nightclub fire and oil terminal
explosion, which generated huge traffic spikes from concerned New Yorkers.

Of course, it is perfectly possibible to make Zope run like a bow-legged
terrier on sleeping pills, but I can do the same to a Java application
server. It is all a question of knowing what you code and a good caching
solution (in the VTS case it's Squid and Apache, with various Zope servers
in a ZEO cluster).

-- 
Martijn Pieters
| Software Engineer  mailto:mj@zope.com
| Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com/
| Creators of Zope   http://www.zope.org/
---------------------------------------------


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  1 18:39:16 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:39:16 -0600
Subject: [Zope] objects invisible
References: <oprlco1liyf3fs5e@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E60FE54.9090000@jcameroncooper.com>

> Im a zope newbie and have startet making a product solely through 
> Python (leaving the management interface behind!). Inside my product 
> object I want to make a folder containing images. My problem is that 
> when I create folders and images through Python it aint visible in the 
> management interface. How to I make them visible?


Objects which are merely attributes of an object won't show up in the 
ZMI. (It would be a neat trick though.) For the ZMI to see it, it has to 
be done in a 'folderish' manner. When you have some folderish object you 
want to add an object to, you say

folder.manage_addXXX(id, title, ...)

where XXX is the name of the product, and the elipsis is the rest of the 
arguments. Some products use a non-'manage_'  naming convention: check 
the source/api docs/add form. You'll have to anyway to check the 
arguments. If you are in a folderish object, you would replace the 
'folder' above with 'self'.

If you want to know more about this machinery, look at _setObject in 
ObjectManager. To look into a folderish object, you use the 
object[Items/Values/Ids] methods, which you probably know about already.

> Secund, can someone explain to me what implicit objects are available 
> so Im able to communicate with Zope (I have had a hard time trying to 
> figure out howto communicate with Zope through a Python product - the 
> docs API aint well documented) 

I'm not quite sure what you're looking for here, but maybe you want to 
take a look at the Globals.py and App/*.py, especially Common.py and 
Product.py.

            --jcc



From info@conquered.org  Sat Mar  1 18:43:28 2003
From: info@conquered.org (Luis Cortes)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:43:28 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
Message-ID: <000001c2e022$741ef150$0eccae18@LUISLAPTOP>

How do I create one with Zope, easily?

How do I include the expires, domain, etc?


Thanks ahead of time,
Luis.




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  1 18:48:45 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:48:45 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
References: <000001c2e022$741ef150$0eccae18@LUISLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <3E61008D.8060709@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>How do I create one with Zope, easily?
>
>How do I include the expires, domain, etc?
>  
>
The RESPONSE object has cookie methods. Check the API section of the 
Zope online help docs.

        --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  1 18:51:23 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 12:51:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Returning a random image from a folder
References: <200303011947.10260.djmitchell@optushome.com.au>
Message-ID: <3E61012B.9090301@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>My randomImage Python script is as follows (where 'directory' is the parameter 
>being passed to the script):
>
>  import string
>  import random
>
>  directory_context = string.replace("/", ".", directory)
>  return directory + "/" + 
>random.choice(context.directory_context.objectValues('Image'))
>  
>
Passing in a string makes this trickier, as I guess you've already 
realized. What you're doing in

context.directory_context.objectValues('Image')

is trying to call a string (directory_context) like an ObjectManager. 
Not going to work. Python lets you get away with a lot, but not that much.

As suggested previously, you can turn the string into an object by 
restrictedTraverse(). In similar situations, involving non-traversable 
attributes, you might use Python's getattr() built-in.

            --jcc






From luis.machado@mandioca.tzo.com  Sat Mar  1 21:17:00 2003
From: luis.machado@mandioca.tzo.com (Luis Machado)
Date: 01 Mar 2003 13:17:00 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Add new property to a class
Message-ID: <1046553421.29805.6.camel@mandioca1>

Having defined a class using python like this one:

from OFS import ObjectManager, SimpleItem

class Plant(ObjectManager.ObjectManager, SimpleItem.SimpleItem):
   """A plant"""

   def __init__(self, name, responsible):
	 "Inits the product with default values"
	 self.name = name
         self.responsible = responsible
         self.areas = {}

you create a few instances, and later you want to add more properties to
the same class, for example:

   def __init__(self, name, responsible, address):
	 "Inits the product with default values"
	 self.name = name
         self.responsible = responsible
         self.areas = {}
         self.address = address

Is there a way to programatically modify the existing instances and add
this new property to them.

Any help will be appreciated.

Luis



From news@conquered.org  Sat Mar  1 19:38:46 2003
From: news@conquered.org (Luis Cortes)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:38:46 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
In-Reply-To: <3E61008D.8060709@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <000101c2e02a$2d6c0f60$0eccae18@LUISLAPTOP>

Yep,

  this is true, but does anyone have a simple example of usage.  I'm too
used to:

Set-Cookie: NAME=VALUE; expires=DATE; path=PATH; domain=DOMAIN_NAME; secure

Do you just repeatly call:

setCookie with the different values, like:

<dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.setCookie('NAME', v1)">
<dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.setCookie('Expires', v2)">
<dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.setCookie('Domain', v3)">

???

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of J
Cameron Cooper
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:49 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie


>
>
>How do I create one with Zope, easily?
>
>How do I include the expires, domain, etc?
>  
>
The RESPONSE object has cookie methods. Check the API section of the 
Zope online help docs.

        --jcc


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From muldrow@mac.com  Sat Mar  1 19:46:33 2003
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:46:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
In-Reply-To: <000101c2e02a$2d6c0f60$0eccae18@LUISLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <81728F00-4C1E-11D7-8300-000393849E6A@mac.com>

We've had the most luck cross-browser with setheader calls like so:
<dtml-call  
"RESPONSE.setHeader('Set- 
Cookie','sessionid=somevalue;domain=.fredericksburg.com;path=/')">

setCookie wasn't playing nice across some browsers for some reason--i  
think there are archived message on the list about it.
On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 02:38 PM, Luis Cortes wrote:

> Yep,
>
>   this is true, but does anyone have a simple example of usage.  I'm  
> too
> used to:
>
> Set-Cookie: NAME=VALUE; expires=DATE; path=PATH; domain=DOMAIN_NAME;  
> secure
>
> Do you just repeatly call:
>
> setCookie with the different values, like:
>
> <dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.setCookie('NAME', v1)">
> <dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.setCookie('Expires', v2)">
> <dtml-call expr="RESPONSE.setCookie('Domain', v3)">
>
> ???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of J
> Cameron Cooper
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:49 AM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
>
>
>>
>>
>> How do I create one with Zope, easily?
>>
>> How do I include the expires, domain, etc?
>>
>>
> The RESPONSE object has cookie methods. Check the API section of the
> Zope online help docs.
>
>         --jcc
>
>
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From mike@cycletime.com  Sat Mar  1 20:36:30 2003
From: mike@cycletime.com (Mike Heath)
Date: 01 Mar 2003 13:36:30 -0700
Subject: [Zope] ZODB Conflict errors
Message-ID: <1046550993.1356.17.camel@tempest.swamp>

We're getting repeated ZODB conflict errors.  They seam to only be
occurring using frames when we have multiple users accessing the page at
the same time.  What is causing this?  We're not doing any modifications
to objects in the Zope database.

Thanks,

Mike Heath
Terrapin Technologies, Inc.



From news@conquered.org  Sat Mar  1 20:43:14 2003
From: news@conquered.org (Luis Cortes)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:43:14 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
In-Reply-To: <81728F00-4C1E-11D7-8300-000393849E6A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <000001c2e033$2f2234c0$0bcdae18@LUISLAPTOP>

I thought this would work, does anybody have a clue why it doesn't?

<dtml-call
expr=3D"RESPONSE.setHeader('Set-Cookie','lastVisited=3D1999/01/01;expires=
=3D2003/0
3/03')">
<dtml-var lastVisited>




-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Muldrow [mailto:muldrow@mac.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:47 PM
To: Luis Cortes
Cc: Zope Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie


We've had the most luck cross-browser with setheader calls like so:
<dtml-call =20
"RESPONSE.setHeader('Set-=20
Cookie','sessionid=3Dsomevalue;domain=3D.fredericksburg.com;path=3D/')">

setCookie wasn't playing nice across some browsers for some reason--i =20
think there are archived message on the list about it.
On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 02:38 PM, Luis Cortes wrote:

> Yep,
>
>   this is true, but does anyone have a simple example of usage.  I'm
> too
> used to:
>
> Set-Cookie: NAME=3DVALUE; expires=3DDATE; path=3DPATH; =
domain=3DDOMAIN_NAME;
> secure
>
> Do you just repeatly call:
>
> setCookie with the different values, like:
>
> <dtml-call expr=3D"RESPONSE.setCookie('NAME', v1)">
> <dtml-call expr=3D"RESPONSE.setCookie('Expires', v2)"> <dtml-call=20
> expr=3D"RESPONSE.setCookie('Domain', v3)">
>
> ???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of J=20
> Cameron Cooper
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 11:49 AM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
>
>
>>
>>
>> How do I create one with Zope, easily?
>>
>> How do I include the expires, domain, etc?
>>
>>
> The RESPONSE object has cookie methods. Check the API section of the=20
> Zope online help docs.
>
>         --jcc
>
>
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From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  1 21:00:29 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 22:00:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] objects invisible
In-Reply-To: <oprlco1liyf3fs5e@localhost>
References: <oprlco1liyf3fs5e@localhost>
Message-ID: <15969.8045.740001.924878@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Danny Nielsen wrote at 2003-3-1 11:06 +0100:
 > ...
 > Inside my product object I want 
 > to make a folder containing images. My problem is that when I create 
 > folders and images through Python it aint visible in the management 
 > interface. How to I make them visible?

You use the methods designed for this purpose.
I hope they are documented in the Zope Developers Guide (to be found
on "zope.org").

You need the 'ObjectManager' method "_setObject(id,obj)".

  It puts "obj" into the object manager under "id".

  That other Zope things work find with "obj", it must
  have the id "id".

 > Secund, can someone explain to me what implicit objects are available so Im 
 > able to communicate with Zope (I have had a hard time trying to figure out 
 > howto communicate with Zope through a Python product - the docs API aint 
 > well documented)

What?

  What do you mean with "implicit objects"?

I suggest reading the following literature:

  *  the Zope book, 2.6 edition (--> Zope.org)

  *  the Zope Developers Guide (--> Zope.org)

  *

    <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  1 20:52:39 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 21:52:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0EE@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0EE@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <15969.7575.25826.568191@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Samir Mishra wrote at 2003-3-1 14:26 +0400:
 > My manager has requested comments on whether Zope "performs like a dog". I'm
 > doing some digging around at the moment, but, in the meantime, if anyone has
 > any links to recommend, benchmarks, experiences to share, that I can use to
 > counter his 'assertion', it would be much appreciated. 

Zope is about an order of magnitude slower than Apache when
serving static content. But, you would not use Zope when
all your content were static ;-)
Use a cache before Zope (squid) to handle static content well.

We have both a Tomcat and a Zope application that do almost
the same (in fact, the Zope app was backported from Tomcat).
Their speed seems to be comparable (we did not make thourough
measurements).

Search the mailing list archives for some timings you can expect
from Zope. There was recently a post from Joachim Werner
with interesting timings (among many others).


Dieter


From mstein@egrad.com  Sat Mar  1 21:58:30 2003
From: mstein@egrad.com (Marc Stein)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:58:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Really stupid acl_users mistake
Message-ID: <IBEJIJIDHAGPAFCKDFBNEEIDCAAA.mstein@egrad.com>

I am quite new to Zope and have done something VERY stupid.

I created an acl_users folder within an existing folder and added myself as
a user.  I did not however select either Manager or Owner and now cannot
access the folder.  Is there a way that I can either programmatically delete
the user folder or change the permissions to allow access to this folder?  I
am the only current user on the system.

Many thanks in advance.

Marc Stein



From news@conquered.org  Sat Mar  1 23:19:26 2003
From: news@conquered.org (Luis Cortes)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:19:26 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Really stupid acl_users mistake
In-Reply-To: <IBEJIJIDHAGPAFCKDFBNEEIDCAAA.mstein@egrad.com>
Message-ID: <000001c2e049$01550a20$0bcdae18@LUISLAPTOP>

did you try the superuser account?

in Linux it would be:

in the var directory create a file called "access"
in the access file type the following:

superuser:123

restart zope.

then login as superuser with password 123.




-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of Marc
Stein
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:58 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Really stupid acl_users mistake


I am quite new to Zope and have done something VERY stupid.

I created an acl_users folder within an existing folder and added myself =
as
a user.  I did not however select either Manager or Owner and now cannot
access the folder.  Is there a way that I can either programmatically =
delete
the user folder or change the permissions to allow access to this =
folder?  I
am the only current user on the system.

Many thanks in advance.

Marc Stein


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From zope@zope.org  Sun Mar  2 04:46:39 2003
From: zope@zope.org (N. Thomas)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 23:46:39 -0500
Subject: [Zope] dynamically generated TAL not being interpreted
Message-ID: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu>

We have a script that generates TAL. The problem is that the content is
not being interpeted as TAL by Zope, but rather as raw HTML.

A search through the mailing lists archives found a posting from last
September where someone was trying to do something similar. According to
one of the replies, the HTML is supposed to have the TAL namespace
declaration, so I changed my code to produce something like this at the
top:

    <html xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
          metal:use-macro="here/main_template/macros/master">

But the problem persists.

Does anyone know how I can do this?

thanks,
thomas

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From vasanthsena@yahoo.com  Sun Mar  2 07:31:01 2003
From: vasanthsena@yahoo.com (vasanthsena x)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 23:31:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] dynamically generated TAL not being interpreted
In-Reply-To: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu>
Message-ID: <20030302073101.84491.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com>

thomas since when have u become a zoppie.

S.
--- "N. Thomas" <nthomas@cise.ufl.edu> wrote:
> We have a script that generates TAL. The problem is
> that the content is
> not being interpeted as TAL by Zope, but rather as
> raw HTML.
> 
> A search through the mailing lists archives found a
> posting from last
> September where someone was trying to do something
> similar. According to
> one of the replies, the HTML is supposed to have the
> TAL namespace
> declaration, so I changed my code to produce
> something like this at the
> top:
> 
>     <html
> xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
>          
> metal:use-macro="here/main_template/macros/master">
> 
> But the problem persists.
> 
> Does anyone know how I can do this?
> 
> thanks,
> thomas
> 
> -- 
> N. Thomas
> nthomas@cise.ufl.edu
> Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo
> 
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From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Sun Mar  2 07:58:03 2003
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 07:58:03 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <15969.7575.25826.568191@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <15969.7575.25826.568191@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <222409327.1046591883@[192.168.1.2]>


--On 01 March 2003 21:52 +0100 Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> wrote:

> Samir Mishra wrote at 2003-3-1 14:26 +0400:
>  > My manager has requested comments on whether Zope "performs like a
> dog". I'm  > doing some digging around at the moment, but, in the
> meantime, if anyone has  > any links to recommend, benchmarks,
> experiences to share, that I can use to  > counter his 'assertion', it
> would be much appreciated.
>

One way of getting Zope "run like a bow-legged
terrier on sleeping pills" (Pieters, M., pers. comm.)
is to use multi-processor Solaris without paying attention
to the threading issues (see
<http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb/solaris>).

If you're starting from a clean sheet it's probably
best to avoid Solaris.

Paul

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From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sun Mar  2 09:07:42 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:07:42 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F3@AUHEXCH>

Thanks everyone.

Any Project managers out there with something to add with regard to
comparison between speed of implementation for Zove vs. other products? 

Personally, I place maintainability and transitioning skills as my top
priority, and elegance of code comes last. Speed (e.g., of the server) is a
non-issue because one can always allocate better hardware for this since
it's a mere commodity now, intellectual capital is always at a premium.

And that's why I like Zope :)

But I still have to sell the concept to managers who only hear "Java" &
"JSP" from software vendors and so are most familiar with these
technologies.

Samir.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Browning [mailto:paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:58
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Cc: Samir Mishra
Subject: Re: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope




--On 01 March 2003 21:52 +0100 Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> wrote:

> Samir Mishra wrote at 2003-3-1 14:26 +0400:
>  > My manager has requested comments on whether Zope "performs like a
> dog". I'm  > doing some digging around at the moment, but, in the
> meantime, if anyone has  > any links to recommend, benchmarks,
> experiences to share, that I can use to  > counter his 'assertion', it
> would be much appreciated.
>

One way of getting Zope "run like a bow-legged
terrier on sleeping pills" (Pieters, M., pers. comm.)
is to use multi-processor Solaris without paying attention
to the threading issues (see
<http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb/solaris>).

If you're starting from a clean sheet it's probably
best to avoid Solaris.

Paul

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From john_fludder@hotmail.com  Sun Mar  2 09:12:53 2003
From: john_fludder@hotmail.com (john fludderdome)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 09:12:53 +0000
Subject: [Zope] I discovered a great site for adults: http://www.HappyHug.com
Message-ID: <F150tO5wwXBMtTQlCGA0005bb30@hotmail.com>

Hi,
I was surfing and than I discovered a great site for Aduts:
http://www.HappyHug.com

This is a new site for adults.
They are operating since 9 december 2002.
I think they can use some visitors.
Go and take a look!

John




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From StefanH.Holek  Sun Mar  2 11:40:53 2003
From: StefanH.Holek (StefanH.Holek)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:40:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Really stupid acl_users mistake
In-Reply-To: <000001c2e049$01550a20$0bcdae18@LUISLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <D31BB7B4-4CA3-11D7-B165-00039382A54A@epy.co.at>

On Sonntag, M=E4r 2, 2003, at 00:19 Europe/Vienna, Luis Cortes wrote:

> did you try the superuser account?
>
> in Linux it would be:
>
> in the var directory create a file called "access"
> in the access file type the following:
>
> superuser:123
>
> restart zope.
>
> then login as superuser with password 123.

s/var directory/instance directory/

This has just been answered the other day. It's all documented in=20
doc/SECURITY.txt.

Stefan=



From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Sun Mar  2 15:12:02 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:12:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbee question
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3A4@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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Hi

=20

I would like to add a DTML-Method called showfile, who call's the
standard_header, call's the object specified in the url and then call's
the footer.

It could be:  http://localhost/showfile?file=3Dtestfile.html

=20

Can anyone please help me?

=20

Regards

=20

Jens Bjerre


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I would like to add a DTML-Method called =
showfile, who
call&#8217;s the standard_header, call&#8217;s the object specified in =
the url
and then call&#8217;s the footer.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It could be: &nbsp;<a
href=3D"http://localhost/showfile?file=3Dtestfile.html">http://localhost/=
showfile?file=3Dtestfile.html</a></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Can anyone please help me?</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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From volker.wend@efgbsh.de  Sun Mar  2 15:34:57 2003
From: volker.wend@efgbsh.de (volker.wend@efgbsh.de)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:34:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbie Page Template Question
Message-ID: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028CD9@kommserver1>

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He folks,
 
I need a solution to format a title in lowercase all the time. I have an
object with a title
 
     <a class="navigation" target="main" 
              tal:attributes="href url" 
              tal:content="r/object/title_or_id">ID</a>
 
 
What would be the right way of converting the title to lowercase ?
 
Thanks,
Volker

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<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>He 
folks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>I need a solution to 
format a title in lowercase all the time. I have an object with a 
title</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;a class="navigation" 
target="main"&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
tal:attributes="href url" 
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
tal:content="r/object/title_or_id"&gt;ID&lt;/a&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial size=2>What would be the 
right way of converting the title to lowercase ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=943011915-02032003><FONT face=Arial 
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From m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de  Sun Mar  2 15:41:28 2003
From: m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de (Matthias =?iso-8859-1?q?H=F6rtzsch?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:41:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbee question
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3A4@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3A4@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <200303021641.28598.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>

Am Sonntag, 2. M=E4rz 2003 16:12 schrieb Jens JB. Bjerre:
> Hi
>
>
>
> I would like to add a DTML-Method called showfile, who call's the
> standard_header, call's the object specified in the url and then call's
> the footer.
>
> It could be:  http://localhost/showfile?file=3Dtestfile.html

you could try to use something like this:

<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-if "REQUEST.form.has_key('file')">

<dtml-var "_.getitem(REQUEST.form['file'],1)">

</dtml-if>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>

would also be a good idea to check if the correct url was given to your fil=
e =20
variable, otherwise you will get an error message


Matthias

> Can anyone please help me?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Jens Bjerre

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From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sun Mar  2 16:08:28 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:08:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] error with setattr
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEJDCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Hi,

I tried this simple script (adapted from the Python tutorial):
__________________
class Record:
    pass

obj=Record()
obj.setattr('field1',1)
print obj
return printed
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and got this error

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: Record instance has no attribute 'setattr'

Why is it not working?

Fernando


From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sun Mar  2 16:25:44 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 17:25:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] error with setattr
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEJDCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEJDCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <6131646.1046625944@[192.168.0.2]>

setattr(obj, key, value).

-aj

--On Sonntag, 2. M=E4rz 2003 17:08 +0100 Fernando Martins=20
<fmartins@hetnet.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried this simple script (adapted from the Python tutorial):
> __________________
> class Record:
>     pass
>
> obj=3DRecord()
> obj.setattr('field1',1)
> print obj
> return printed
> __________________
>
> and got this error
>
> Error Type: AttributeError
> Error Value: Record instance has no attribute 'setattr'
>
> Why is it not working?
>
> Fernando
>
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Sun Mar  2 16:27:32 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:27:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Newbie Page Template Question
In-Reply-To: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028CD9@kommserver1>
References: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028CD9@kommserver1>
Message-ID: <20030302162732.GA634@slinkp.com>

On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 04:34:57PM +0100, volker.wend@efgbsh.de wrote:
> He folks,
>  
> I need a solution to format a title in lowercase all the time. I have an
> object with a title
>  
>      <a class="navigation" target="main" 
>               tal:attributes="href url" 
>               tal:content="r/object/title_or_id">ID</a>
>  
>  
> What would be the right way of converting the title to lowercase ?

as with a lot of things in TAL, the answer is that there is no
built-in TAL gunk for that so you use python:
    
      <a class="navigation" target="main" 
               tal:attributes="href url" 
               tal:content="python: r.object.title_or_id().lower()">ID</a>


explanation: path expressions like "r/object/title_or_id"
are equivalent to python object containment like
r.object.title_or_id. but path expressions will automagically
call the last item on the path if it's callable, and you have
to explicitly do that in python with (). Next, the result of
title_or_id is a string, and python strings have lots of useful
methods.  some_string.lower() returns a lowercased copy of the input
string.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From mail@peterbe.com  Sun Mar  2 16:41:14 2003
From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:41:14 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Storing a password in a python product
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030302163107.0205b708@mail.grenna.net>

What are the security implications of storing a password in a python 
product as persistent data?

I was thinking of something like this:

class MyProduct:
     def __init__(self, hostname, username, password):
          self.hostname = hostname
          self.username = username
          self.password = password


But I will also need to be able to use the password in anonymous actions; 
otherwise I could ask for the password (in some suitable way) each time 
it's needed.

Basically, how do I keep good security with sensitive persistent data in a 
python product?

Peter



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sun Mar  2 16:55:29 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:55:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] error with setattr
In-Reply-To: <6131646.1046625944@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFCEJFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

> Andreas Jung wrote:
> setattr(obj, key, value).

Ah! it's not a method. Somehow I thought obj meant self...

Now, I'm getting the error:

Error Type: TypeError
Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)

which is correct in the original version, but after adding a dummy field I
still get the error.

_____________________
class Record:
    field0 = 0

obj=Record()
setattr(obj, 'field1', 1)
print obj
return printed
______________________

What silly mistake am I doing now?

Thanks,

Fernando



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sun Mar  2 17:48:44 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:48:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] error with setattr
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFCEJFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEJFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

> Fernando Martins wrote:
> > Andreas Jung wrote:
> > setattr(obj, key, value).
>
> Ah! it's not a method. Somehow I thought obj meant self...
>
> Now, I'm getting the error:
>
> Error Type: TypeError
> Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
>
> which is correct in the original version, but after adding a dummy field I
> still get the error.
>
> _____________________
> class Record:
>     field0 = 0
>
> obj=Record()
> setattr(obj, 'field1', 1)
> print obj
> return printed
> ______________________
>
> What silly mistake am I doing now?
>

If I write

class Record:
    self.field0 = 0

I get the error (on the 2nd line):

Error Type: NameError
Error Value: name '_write' is not defined

What now?

This was supposed to be just a simple test to see if I could (and how) to
add attributes to a record variable passed from a html form.

Fernando



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sun Mar  2 18:17:50 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:17:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: error with setattr
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEJFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFCEJFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl> <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEJFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <b3thsn$iu4$1@main.gmane.org>

Fernando Martins wrote:
>>Fernando Martins wrote:
>>
>>>Andreas Jung wrote:
>>>setattr(obj, key, value).
>>
>>Ah! it's not a method. Somehow I thought obj meant self...
>>
>>Now, I'm getting the error:
>>
>>Error Type: TypeError
>>Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
>>
>>which is correct in the original version, but after adding a dummy field I
>>still get the error.
>>
>>_____________________
>>class Record:
>>    field0 = 0
>>
>>obj=Record()
>>setattr(obj, 'field1', 1)
>>print obj
>>return printed
>>______________________
>>
>>What silly mistake am I doing now?
>>
> 
> 
> If I write
> 
> class Record:
>     self.field0 = 0
> 
> I get the error (on the 2nd line):
> 
> Error Type: NameError
> Error Value: name '_write' is not defined
> 
> What now?
> 
> This was supposed to be just a simple test to see if I could (and how) to
> add attributes to a record variable passed from a html form.

Just a guess: Do you use PythonScripts? You can't define classes etc. in 
PythonScripts. You have to use ExternalMethods or Python-Products...

-mj

-- 
Deutsche/German Zope User Group (DZUG)
http://www.dzug.org/Members/mjablonski/




From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sun Mar  2 19:49:56 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:49:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: error with setattr
In-Reply-To: <b3thsn$iu4$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEJGCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Maik Jablonski wrote:
> > This was supposed to be just a simple test to see if I could
> (and how) to
> > add attributes to a record variable passed from a html form.
>
> Just a guess: Do you use PythonScripts? You can't define classes etc. in
> PythonScripts. You have to use ExternalMethods or Python-Products...
>

Yes, that's it. Thanks.

But it also seems I can't use setattr to add an attribute to a PythonScript
parameter (which comes from a form)??

I get the error:

Error Type: TypeError
Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)

What type of object is a PythonScript parameter? (or how can I test it for
myself without a type function?)

Fernando



From andrew@logicalprogression.net  Sun Mar  2 20:52:59 2003
From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:52:59 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Adaptable Storage Problem
Message-ID: <BA881FAB.9992%andrew@logicalprogression.net>

I've got a problem with AdaptableStorage. If I set up a folder with
AdaptableStorage I can add a CMF site to it but not a Plone site. I get:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
  Module Zope, line 188, in commit
  Module ZODB.Transaction, line 222, in commit
  Module ZODB.Transaction, line 195, in commit
  Module ZODB.Transaction, line 256, in _commit_objects
  Module Products.AdaptableStorage.zodb.ASConnection, line 247, in commit
  Module Products.AdaptableStorage.mapper.ObjectSerializer, line 87, in
serialize
  Module Products.AdaptableStorage.zodb.RemainingState, line 107, in
serialize
RuntimeError: Unable to pickle the '_catalog' attribute, <Catalog instance
at 99526d0>, of <CatalogTool instance at 995d650> at
('/fs/test2/portal_catalog',).  Cannot pickle <extension class
Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper at 40233ca0> objects.

I don't understand how a portal_catalog won't pickle with AdaptableStorage
but will with the ZODB.

Thanks!



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sun Mar  2 23:07:26 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 17:07:26 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Really stupid acl_users mistake
References: <IBEJIJIDHAGPAFCKDFBNEEIDCAAA.mstein@egrad.com>
Message-ID: <3E628EAE.5040409@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I created an acl_users folder within an existing folder and added myself as
>a user.  I did not however select either Manager or Owner and now cannot
>access the folder.  Is there a way that I can either programmatically delete
>the user folder or change the permissions to allow access to this folder?  I
>am the only current user on the system.
>  
>
Make a manager with a different name in a parent folder and go in and 
fix your problem.

            --jcc




From andy@agmweb.ca  Sun Mar  2 23:51:58 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:51:58 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Adaptable Storage Problem
In-Reply-To: <BA881FAB.9992%andrew@logicalprogression.net>
References: <BA881FAB.9992%andrew@logicalprogression.net>
Message-ID: <3E62991E.9000305@agmweb.ca>

> I don't understand how a portal_catalog won't pickle with AdaptableStorage
> but will with the ZODB.

You'll probably want to be pickling the content, not the all tools, so 
mount your Members folder, or wherever you have your content.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 00:10:28 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:10:28 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Add new property to a class
In-Reply-To: <1046553421.29805.6.camel@mandioca1>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302155434.01d8eca0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 01:17 PM 3/1/2003, Luis Machado wrote:
>Is there a way to programatically modify the existing instances and add
>this new property to them.

Sure.  You could create an update method that adds a new value and call 
that method on all existing instances.

You can also accomplish this with class variables.  These will get loaded 
by existing instances and then any work you do on them will override them 
at the instance level.  Ex:

class foo:
    __init__(self):
       self.var1 = 'foo'
       # oops!  we forgot to assign var2

    var2 = 'bar'    # this is a class variable, added after some instances 
have been created

    def some_method(self):
       # now we can use var2, since we get it through the class
       # once we assign it a value, it's an instance variable for this instance
       self.var2 = 'spam'


HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 00:28:38 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:28:38 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Storing a password in a python product
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030302163107.0205b708@mail.grenna.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302161325.01d4bec8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 08:41 AM 3/2/2003, Peter Bengtsson wrote:
>What are the security implications of storing a password in a python 
>product as persistent data?

Well... that depends... mostly on the security auditing done on your custom 
product.  If you display data in response to user requests, your product 
may be vulnerable to a range of attacks.  Among other things, strong input 
validation should be considered critical if you're storing sensitive data.

Another issue your question raises is whether storing the pw in the product 
means that you're moving away from HTTP authentication.  HTTP Basic isn't 
the tightest thing invented, but it's quite a bit better than sending full 
passwords over an open wire.

Ultimately, every security question must be answered by examining your 
requirements and analyzing the threat.  If a password is compromised, what 
does the cracker get?  Access?  Other information?  Credit card data?

There is no one best security policy... but a good approximation of one is 
to make do with the least amount of sensitive information possible and to 
exert the greatest control over that which you do store.  Your requirements 
should guide you as to how critical it is to store this information vs. the 
greater amount of hardening  you need to do to maintain it.

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 01:07:20 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 17:07:20 -0800
Subject: [Zope] objects invisible
In-Reply-To: <oprlco1liyf3fs5e@localhost>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302162914.01d49238@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 02:06 AM 3/1/2003, Danny Nielsen wrote:
>Now the problem:
>Im a zope newbie and have startet making a product solely through Python

Nothing like jumping right in.... :-)

>(leaving the management interface behind!).

Really?

>Inside my product object I want to make a folder containing images.

I'm pretty sure you don't.  We'll see, though.

>  My problem is that when I create folders and images through Python it 
> aint visible in the management interface. How to I make them visible?

Make them Zope objects, not parts of your product instance.  The data in 
your product is only displayed if it is somehow referenced or created by 
your product's interface.

>Secund, can someone explain to me what implicit objects are available so 
>Im able to communicate with Zope

Not sure what those would be, to be honest.

>the docs API aint well documented

Perhaps not, but I don't think that's the essential problem here.

Every once in a while, newbies ask how to do something that seems simple 
and some crusty old timer feels the need to tell them they're going about 
it all wrong.  Well, here goes: it sounds like you're going about this all 
wrong.  Don't worry, though... it's all part of the learning process.

First off, products are not a replacement for the Zope Management Interface 
(ZMI).  All you do when you create a product is give yourself the ability 
to add a new type of object through the ZMI.  But just doing that is a very 
powerful thing.

A product should be created when you have a need for something that 
exhibits a certain set of distinct behaviors that aren't easily created 
with existing objects.  It's possible, for example, that you've come up 
with a need for folders and images that are just too special to be 
implemented with boring old built-in folder objects and image 
objects.  Possible, but unlikely.

More likely, you've made the assumption that there's a need (or advantage) 
to build monolithic do-everything objects, one per application or 
site.  You *could* work that way, but you'll be missing a whole lot of the 
point of Zope and re-implementing stuff that other very smart people have 
already gone to the trouble of creating, testing, debugging and supporting.

What I would recommend is *not* starting by building your own 
products.  That would be a bit like picking up a programming language 
without bothering with the standard libraries.  Out of the box, Zope 
provides a wide range of flexible and powerful objects that can do a heck 
of a lot of stuff.  It's worth knowing about because it's powerful stuff to 
use and provides examples of some of the best thinking in Zope.

Understanding what these built-ins are and how they work will pay off big 
time when you get to building your own stuff.  No longer will you need to 
worry about how to create and serve your own folders and images, you'll 
know how to access and manipulate the built-in ones, which are likely to be 
well suited for your needs.  That will leave you free to focus your 
development time on building the things that Zope doesn't already give you.

This is not to say there's no possible reason to want to build your own 
folders and images... it gets done all the time.  I've done it too.  But 
it's not probably where you want to start and when you get there, you'll 
learn that you're probably talking about three products, not one.  And by 
then you'll know how to use the 99% of the built-in folder that works great 
and tweak the 1% you want to work differently.

I'd check out the Zope Book (both versions):
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/

Dieter's book:
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/index.html#bct_sec_1

And the Zope Dev Guide, when you're feeling up to it:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html

After that, the best way to learn about how to make products is to download 
a bunch of them and rip into the source code.  By the time you're able to 
figure how CMF works, you'll be a jedi master.

That may not have been what you were looking for, but I hope it helps.

Dylan




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 01:36:03 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 17:36:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VideoCapture module fails under Zope on Win32
In-Reply-To: <162114162366.20030301040009@Vex.Net>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302171824.01d44b90@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 01:00 AM 3/1/2003, Tim wrote:
>Traceback (innermost last):
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>   Module Products.ZVideoCapture.ZVideoCapture, line 32, in test
>   Module Products.ZVideoCapture.vidtest, line 4, in getdev
>   Module VideoCapture, line 49, in __init__
>Error: Creation of the filter graph failed.

Ugh.  Line 49 calls a method in a pyd file.  Tough to know why the filter 
graph creation failed without seeing it.

It may well be the case that the VideoCapture maintainers would have a 
pretty good idea of what might cause this error.  That could push us in the 
right direction.

It might also be possible to get a better traceback.  Put line 49 inside a 
try...except and kick back your own exception.  Check out this recipe for 
some hints how you might get some richer information on what's gone wrong:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/52215

I haven't tried any of that in a Zope object, though it works like a charm 
in other Python stuff.

That's about what I can think of at the moment.

Dylan



From ginger_xy@hotmail.com  Mon Mar  3 02:41:26 2003
From: ginger_xy@hotmail.com (=?gb2312?B?PxM=?=)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 02:41:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] how to use zope
Message-ID: <F165m8xrDGW4TZIrzQD00057e54@hotmail.com>

Gentlemen/Ladies:
      First let me introduce myself.I am a Chinese.I just contacted with 
zope ,so
I had many qustions that I could't understand it myself.For my english is 
poor,I would like you to tell me how to use zope ,using steps,and how to 
use gnowsys,
.Could you response me as quickly as possible,because i will use it soon.
  Thank you very much!
  Best Wishes!





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From ra@burningman.com  Mon Mar  3 03:21:19 2003
From: ra@burningman.com (Rob Miller)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:21:19 -0800
Subject: [Zope] security changes from 2.5 -> 2.6?
Message-ID: <338E0B9E-4D27-11D7-B9F2-003065776F76@burningman.com>

hi there,

i'm trying to migrate a plone project from zope 2.5.1 to zope 2.6.1.  
the app relies heavily on database driven local roles information, for 
which we're using zpatterns and loginmanager.

so we've created these custom plone folders called 'teamfolders'.  
these folders are dataskins, and they override get_local_roles() and 
get_local_roles_for_userid(), returning the appropriate responses based 
on the team membership information that is in the database.  similarly, 
in our user class, we've overridden getRolesInContext().

in zope 2.5.1 this all works beautifully.  zope recognized the local 
roles and allows access accordingly.  even the 'local_roles' link on 
the security tab still works, although it doesn't allow you to delete 
the local roles that originate from the database.

when i import my product into 2.6.1, however, things don't work as 
smoothly.  everything looks like it should work... the local roles page 
still displays the right information.  a test page that i've written 
consistently displays the expected results for here.get_local_roles() 
and here.get_local_roles_for_userid(), as well as 
user.getRolesInContext().  but zope doesn't allow the access based on 
this information.  that is, even when 'teammember' is showing up on the 
user's local roles list, zope isn't allowing the user to perform 
actions that should be allowed to 'teammember'.

has something changed within zope's security implementation?  is there 
a new method that needs to be overridden that i don't know about?  does 
anyone have any other ideas why this might be happening?  i've searched 
on the zope.org site and the mailing lists to no avail...  any info 
anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated!

thanks!

-r



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar  3 05:52:51 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 06:52:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to use zope
In-Reply-To: <F165m8xrDGW4TZIrzQD00057e54@hotmail.com>
References: <F165m8xrDGW4TZIrzQD00057e54@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <54559061.1046674371@[192.168.0.2]>

Read the Zope Book (to be found on www.zope.org). It explains the
basics of Zope.

-aj

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> Gentlemen/Ladies:
>       First let me introduce myself.I am a Chinese.I just contacted with
> zope ,so I had many qustions that I could't understand it myself.For my
> english is poor,I would like you to tell me how to use zope ,using
> steps,and how to use gnowsys, .Could you response me as quickly as
> possible,because i will use it soon.   Thank you very much!
>   Best Wishes!
>
>
>
>
>
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Mon Mar  3 07:26:44 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 03 Mar 2003 01:26:44 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: File Upload via form (with other form variable) and
 storing it in   a database
In-Reply-To: <b3nak1$72e$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <1046419422.4905.120.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <b3nak1$72e$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1046676404.5004.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Okay... Saw that 

But it doesn't tell me how to get the file into a postgres database
though.

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 03:36, Maik Jablonski wrote:
> Edward Muller wrote:
> > How would I go about uploading a file via a form and store it in a
> > postgres database using zope/zpt.
> > 
> > I've never do this. I've used zope/zpt/zsql when dealing with forms
> > before but never with a input type of "file".
> 
> There's an Example.zexp in the import-folder of Zope 2.6.x. Import it 
> and have a look at the File-Library-Example. It's all there...
> 
> -mj
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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Mon Mar  3 08:17:55 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:17:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: File Upload via form (with other form variable) and   storing
 it in   a database
In-Reply-To: <1046676404.5004.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1046419422.4905.120.camel@localhost.localdomain>	 <b3nak1$72e$1@main.gmane.org> <1046676404.5004.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <b3v33q$8u9$1@main.gmane.org>

Edward Muller wrote:
> Okay... Saw that 
> 
> But it doesn't tell me how to get the file into a postgres database
> though.

Take the content of the file and store it with an ExternalMethod
  in a BLOB-field... btw: I don't think that Postgres is a good storage 
for binary-objects...

# insertFile.py
# from 
http://www.dzug.org/mailinglisten/zope/archive/2002/2002-11/1037545798840

import psycopg

def add_fileobject(self, obj_id, title, file, REQUEST=None):
     " insert binary file into postgres sql table "

     # open a database connection
     o = psycopg.connect("dbname=myDB user=postgres")

     # create cursor
     c = o.cursor()

     c.execute("INSERT INTO TBL_FILES (obj_id, imagetitle, imagedata) VALUES
(%(obj_id)i, %(img_title)s, %(data)s)",
                {'obj_id':obj_id, 'img_title':title,
'data':psycopg.Binary(file.read())}
              )

     # commit on the database connection
     o.commit()

     if REQUEST is not None:
         REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect('index_html')


Cheers, Maik
-- 
Deutsche/German Zope User Group (DZUG)
http://www.dzug.org/Members/mjablonski/




From sabaini@inode.at  Mon Mar  3 08:36:02 2003
From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:36:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: File Upload via form (with other form variable) and
 storing it in   a database
In-Reply-To: <b3v33q$8u9$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <1046419422.4905.120.camel@localhost.localdomain>	 <b3nak1$72e$1@main.gmane.org> <1046676404.5004.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <b3v33q$8u9$1@main.gmane.org>
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Maik Jablonski wrote:
> Edward Muller wrote:
> 
>> Okay... Saw that
>> But it doesn't tell me how to get the file into a postgres database
>> though.
> 
> 
> Take the content of the file and store it with an ExternalMethod
>  in a BLOB-field... btw: I don't think that Postgres is a good storage 
> for binary-objects...

[snip]

Why so? Do you have negative experience with BLOBs in Postgresql? I did 
some (very unscientific) tests with some mp3s once, and it seemed to 
perform quite well.  This was with Postgresql 7.2, and about 500Mb of data.

  - peter.

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From tim@xxvii.net  Mon Mar  3 09:23:23 2003
From: tim@xxvii.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 04:23:23 -0500
Subject: [Zope] VideoCapture module fails under Zope on Win32
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302171824.01d44b90@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030302171824.01d44b90@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <30288422389.20030303042323@Vex.Net>

Dylan wrote on Sunday, March 2, 2003, 8:36:03 PM:
> Ugh.  Line 49 calls a method in a pyd file.  Tough to know why the filter
> graph creation failed without seeing it.

Been there, done that too. (-: The exception is actually coming from
the call in the c++ code to open the device. The call does return a
code of some sort; but i have no idea what that code is. The module
author simply checks for non-true (or non-false, i can't remember),
and if it fails, raises that exception... with no further info.

> It may well be the case that the VideoCapture maintainers would have
> a pretty good idea of what might cause this error. That could push

Already tried this before posting to the Zope list. The author,
unfortunately, said he had no idea, and had no time to fiddle with the
code anymore. Oh well. Honestly i don't have time to be fiddling with
my silly webcam these days either. <-: Would have been nice if it
"just worked"... or someone had a quick answer. oh well.

> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/52215

If nothing else, i get this handy snippet out of all this. (-:

-- 
Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | There are a thousand hacking at the branches
x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | of evil [but who] at the root. --Thoreau (W)



From Mark.Grace@imd.ch  Mon Mar  3 09:25:11 2003
From: Mark.Grace@imd.ch (Grace, Mark)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:25:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
Message-ID: <C6DB46D14B5BD411837100B0D020DD9107FE61C5@excalibur.imd.ch>

Hi All,

Warning, newbie question coming up!

I have a form (DTML Document):
-----------------------
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<h3>Add Employee:</h3>
<form action="addEmployeeAction">
id: <input type="text" name="emp_id:int"><br>
first: <input type="text" name="first"><br>
last: <input type="text" name="last"><br>
salary: <input type="text" name="salary:float"><br>
<input type="submit">
</form>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>
----------------------

That submits to the following Python Script:
----------------------
##parameters=emp_id, first, last, salary

rec = context.Queries.insertEmployeeQuery(emp_id=emp_id, first=first,
last=last, salary=salary)

print "-" * 80
print "Employee Added:"
print "-" * 80
print """%i
%s
%s
%f

""" % (emp_id, first, last, salary)

print "-" * 80
print "All Employees:"
print "-" * 80
recordset = context.Queries.list_all_employees().dictionaries()
rownum = 1
for record in recordset:
   print "Row %d" % (rownum)
   rownum = rownum + 1
   for key in record.keys():
      print key, "=", record[key]
   print "-" * 80

return printed
----------------------

"insertEmployeeQuery" is a ZSQL method, using a Gadfly DB Connection, that
looks like this:
----------------------
Arguments: emp_id, first, last, salary

insert into employees (emp_id, first, last, salary) values
(
<dtml-sqlvar emp_id type="int">, 
<dtml-sqlvar first type="string">, 
<dtml-sqlvar last type="string">,
<dtml-sqlvar salary type="float">
)

----------------------

The error is:
----------------------
Error Type
Missing Input


Error Message
Missing input variable, emp_id
----------------------

Obviously, the problem lies in passing the arguments to the ZSQL method but
I can't seem to find the right syntax. I know I could do this from a DTML
Method instead of a Python Script but I am more interested in seeing how
DTML and Python work together. Can anyone help me out?

Many thanks,

Mark


From einar.ness.jensen@hf.ntnu.no  Mon Mar  3 09:57:21 2003
From: einar.ness.jensen@hf.ntnu.no (Einar =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E6ss?= Jensen)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:57:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] pictures in NuxDocument and MSWordDocument
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030303103451.02ef1ec8@pop.hf.ntnu.no>

Using zope 2.6.1 and WvWare

I'm trying to figure out what is needed to show pictures in NuxDocument=20
when saving a msword-document. Insted of the pictures (jpeg, gif or png) i=
=20
get emty references.

The product MSWordDocumentFS also fails to display images

With MSWordDocument however, The pictures shows ok. Gif's, jpeg's
  and png's.

Have anyone experienced the same, and/or have a solution or tip?

Best regards
Einar N=E6ss Jensen
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Avdelingsingeni=F8r EDB-HF
735 90750



From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar  3 10:05:29 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:05:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [URGENT] Compile-Problem
Message-ID: <3E6328E9.3050200@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

I try to compile the zope source.

I start with: python w_pcgi.py

after a while I get following error..

OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/build_pcgi.pyc'

I looked at this directory and build_pcgi.pyc really doesn't exist. But 
there is a build_pcgi.py...

Whats wrong?


Thanks in advance
   Sorin Marti



From Nicolas.Romero@adp3i.fr  Mon Mar  3 10:14:40 2003
From: Nicolas.Romero@adp3i.fr (Nicolas Romero)
Date: 03 Mar 2003 11:14:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Session timeout
In-Reply-To: <15967.48893.66709.278714@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1046365480.2800.12.camel@Ravel.Corp.ADP3i.fr>
 <15967.48893.66709.278714@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <1046681708.2392.16.camel@Ravel.Corp.ADP3i.fr>

Le ven 28/02/2003 à 20:56, Dieter Maurer a écrit :
> Nicolas Romero wrote at 2003-2-27 18:04 +0100:
>  > ... "ZSESSION_TIMEOUT_MINS=0" is now very small ...
>  > Is this a bug, or a feature ? And how can I use infinite sessions in
>  > 2.6.1 ?
> 
> I cannot answer your first question.
> 
> But "ZSESSION_TIMEOUT_MINS=10,000,000" would mean almost "infinite"
> for any practical considerations....

Yes, of course, this is what I do. But this is a hack I would prefer to
avoid if I could.

Thank you for the tip, anyway.

> 
> Dieter

-- 
Nicolas Romero, adp3i <http://www.adp3i.fr>



From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar  3 10:19:03 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:19:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Compile Problem
Message-ID: <3E632C17.6080603@semafor.ch>

Could this be the problem?

I've got Python 2.0... The INSTALL.txt says you need Python 2.2...

Thanks
   Sorin Marti



From andy@agmweb.ca  Mon Mar  3 10:22:33 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 02:22:33 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
In-Reply-To: <C6DB46D14B5BD411837100B0D020DD9107FE61C5@excalibur.imd.ch>
References: <C6DB46D14B5BD411837100B0D020DD9107FE61C5@excalibur.imd.ch>
Message-ID: <3E632CE9.8050708@agmweb.ca>

> "insertEmployeeQuery" is a ZSQL method, using a Gadfly DB Connection, that
> looks like this:
> ----------------------
> Arguments: emp_id, first, last, salary

Try removing the commas from your argument list:

emp_id first last salary
-- 
   Andy McKay



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar  3 10:22:49 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:22:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Compile Problem
In-Reply-To: <3E632C17.6080603@semafor.ch>
References: <3E632C17.6080603@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <70756963.1046690569@[192.168.0.2]>

Zope 2.5/2.6 requires Python 2.1.(3)!

-aj

--On Montag, 3. M=E4rz 2003 11:19 +0100 Sorin Marti <mas@semafor.ch> wrote:

>




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From Mark.Grace@imd.ch  Mon Mar  3 10:28:31 2003
From: Mark.Grace@imd.ch (Grace, Mark)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:28:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
Message-ID: <C6DB46D14B5BD411837100B0D020DD9107FE61C6@excalibur.imd.ch>

Thanks Andy but I did as you say and now it outputs the following error:
----------------------
Error Type
Missing Input

Error Message
Missing input variable, first

???

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy McKay [mailto:andy@agmweb.ca]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Grace, Mark
Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: Re: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script


> "insertEmployeeQuery" is a ZSQL method, using a Gadfly DB Connection, that
> looks like this:
> ----------------------
> Arguments: emp_id, first, last, salary

Try removing the commas from your argument list:

emp_id first last salary
-- 
   Andy McKay


From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar  3 10:53:15 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:53:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [again] Compile problem
Message-ID: <3E63341B.9060705@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

Ok. I installed python 2.1.3 and everything seemed to work fine. But now 
I've got the following error... what does that mean?

  File "w_pcgi.py", line 39, in ?
     if __name__=='__main__': main(sys.argv[0])
   File "w_pcgi.py", line 37, in main
     import wo_pcgi; wo_pcgi.main(me)
   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/wo_pcgi.py", line 33, in main
     import build_extensions
   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/build_extensions.py", line 24, in ?
     do('%s setup.py build_ext -i' % sys.executable)
   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/do.py", line 32, in do
     if i and picky: raise SystemError, i
SystemError: 256


I found nothing in google...

Thanks for your help
    Sorin Marti



From Oliver@tekk.dk  Mon Mar  3 10:56:28 2003
From: Oliver@tekk.dk (Oliver Marx)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:56:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [again] Compile problem
In-Reply-To: <3E63341B.9060705@semafor.ch>
References: <3E63341B.9060705@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <3E6334DC.8020207@tekk.dk>

>  File "w_pcgi.py", line 39, in ?
>     if __name__=='__main__': main(sys.argv[0])
>   File "w_pcgi.py", line 37, in main
>     import wo_pcgi; wo_pcgi.main(me)
>   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/wo_pcgi.py", line 33, in main
>     import build_extensions
>   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/build_extensions.py", line 24, in ?
>     do('%s setup.py build_ext -i' % sys.executable)
>   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/do.py", line 32, in do
>     if i and picky: raise SystemError, i
> SystemError: 256

I had the same error when I didn't use GnuTar.

\Oliver

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From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar  3 11:00:27 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:00:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [again] Compile problem
References: <3E63341B.9060705@semafor.ch> <3E6334DC.8020207@tekk.dk>
Message-ID: <3E6335CB.3030600@semafor.ch>


Oliver Marx wrote:

> 
>>  File "w_pcgi.py", line 39, in ?
>>     if __name__=='__main__': main(sys.argv[0])
>>   File "w_pcgi.py", line 37, in main
>>     import wo_pcgi; wo_pcgi.main(me)
>>   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/wo_pcgi.py", line 33, in main
>>     import build_extensions
>>   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/build_extensions.py", line 24, 
>> in ?
>>     do('%s setup.py build_ext -i' % sys.executable)
>>   File "/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/inst/do.py", line 32, in do
>>     if i and picky: raise SystemError, i
>> SystemError: 256
> 
> 
> I had the same error when I didn't use GnuTar.


But I used GnuTar...

    Sorin Marti



From dario@ita.chalmers.se  Mon Mar  3 13:25:06 2003
From: dario@ita.chalmers.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:25:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
References: <C6DB46D14B5BD411837100B0D020DD9107FE61C6@excalibur.imd.ch>
Message-ID: <009001c2e188$4e170ad0$4bdf1081@WALTER>

hello,

I think Andy meant remove the commas from the ZSQL-method object, e.g. in
the edit box of the ZSQL-method it should look like this:

Arguments:   emp_id  first  last  salary

or

Arguments:   emp_id
             first
             last
             salary

in the call to the zsql-method, you have to use commas:

results = context.zsql_method_name(emp_id=someval, first=someval2,
last=someval3, salary=someval4)

or

results = context.zsql_method_name(someval, someval2, someval3, someval4)

(not 100% sure about this last one, though - caveat empor)

HTH,

/dario


----- Original Message -----
From: "Grace, Mark" <Mark.Grace@imd.ch>
To: "'Andy McKay'" <andy@agmweb.ca>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script


> Thanks Andy but I did as you say and now it outputs the following error:
> ----------------------
> Error Type
> Missing Input
>
> Error Message
> Missing input variable, first
>
> ???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy McKay [mailto:andy@agmweb.ca]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:23 AM
> To: Grace, Mark
> Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
>
>
> > "insertEmployeeQuery" is a ZSQL method, using a Gadfly DB Connection,
that
> > looks like this:
> > ----------------------
> > Arguments: emp_id, first, last, salary
>
> Try removing the commas from your argument list:
>
> emp_id first last salary
> --
>    Andy McKay
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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>



From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Mon Mar  3 14:34:16 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:34:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Properties
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC516@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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From Mark.Grace@imd.ch  Mon Mar  3 14:39:46 2003
From: Mark.Grace@imd.ch (Grace, Mark)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:39:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
Message-ID: <C6DB46D14B5BD411837100B0D020DD9107FE61C7@excalibur.imd.ch>

Hi Dario,

OK, everything is working wonderfully now, many thanks to you and Andy. =
I'll
try to challenge you guys a little more next time.

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Dario Lopez-K=E4sten [mailto:dario@ita.chalmers.se]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:25 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script


hello,

I think Andy meant remove the commas from the ZSQL-method object, e.g. =
in
the edit box of the ZSQL-method it should look like this:

Arguments:   emp_id  first  last  salary

or

Arguments:   emp_id
             first
             last
             salary

in the call to the zsql-method, you have to use commas:

results =3D context.zsql_method_name(emp_id=3Dsomeval, =
first=3Dsomeval2,
last=3Dsomeval3, salary=3Dsomeval4)

or

results =3D context.zsql_method_name(someval, someval2, someval3, =
someval4)

(not 100% sure about this last one, though - caveat empor)

HTH,

/dario


----- Original Message -----
From: "Grace, Mark" <Mark.Grace@imd.ch>
To: "'Andy McKay'" <andy@agmweb.ca>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script


> Thanks Andy but I did as you say and now it outputs the following =
error:
> ----------------------
> Error Type
> Missing Input
>
> Error Message
> Missing input variable, first
>
> ???
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy McKay [mailto:andy@agmweb.ca]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:23 AM
> To: Grace, Mark
> Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Pass Arguments to ZSQL Method from Python Script
>
>
> > "insertEmployeeQuery" is a ZSQL method, using a Gadfly DB =
Connection,
that
> > looks like this:
> > ----------------------
> > Arguments: emp_id, first, last, salary
>
> Try removing the commas from your argument list:
>
> emp_id first last salary
> --
>    Andy McKay
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>


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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar  3 14:47:41 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 15:47:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Properties
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC516@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC516@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <86648634.1046706461@[192.168.0.2]>

hasattr()

--On Montag, 3. M=E4rz 2003 15:34 +0100 "Jens JB. Bjerre"=20
<jens@bkinformatik.dk> wrote:

> Hi
>
>
>
> Is there anyway how I can test, if an object (of any kind) has a special
> property.?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Jens
>




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From suecole2001@hotmail.com  Mon Mar  3 14:49:56 2003
From: suecole2001@hotmail.com (Sue Cole)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:49:56 +0000
Subject: [Zope] mailing list
Message-ID: <F141FtrR8CNId2REW9f00037cf9@hotmail.com>

please add me to your mailing list,

Sincerely,

Sue Cole




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Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Zope] mailing list
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From marc@sharedbase.com  Mon Mar  3 16:02:08 2003
From: marc@sharedbase.com (Marc Burgauer)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:02:08 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Web mail & web chat
Message-ID: <BA892D00.460%marc@sharedbase.com>

Hi

I am looking for a Zope-based interface to offer web mail and real-time chat
for a potential customer who intends to run a public web-based service.

The average user will not be highly computer literate. (E.g. We expect many
not even to have an e-mail account.)


Web Mail
--------

The only "serious" product I have found is:

http://www.zope.org/Members/maraf/WebMail

It requires an IMAP server, currently we're still only doing POP3. Also this
product is in French, it seems.

- If anybody is using this product, can you share some experiences?
  + stability
  + scale (number of users, etc.)
  + How does it integrate with acl_users?
  + Willing to share English graphics and templates?

- Has anybody experiences with other products?

I am considering to offer @Mail, which looks impressive and is OK in price,
but it does not tie into Zope at all. (Or has somebody done this?) I mainly
worried about the administration effort of keeping usernames and passwords
in sync.

Web Chat
--------

I found this product:

http://www.zope.org/Members/jwashin/ZRTChat

Looks OK but is labeled as development.

- If anybody is using this product, can you share some experiences?
  + stability
  + scale (number of users, etc.)

- Has anybody experiences with other products?

Cheers

Marc
 



From Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk  Mon Mar  3 16:29:00 2003
From: Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk (Ed Crewe)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:29:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 changed default number format
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303031612250.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

Hi,

Rather than do uneccesary work can I just enquire about
whether recent numeric handling changes in Zope 2.6.1 are intentional or
might they be reversed?

Zope 2.6.1 has changed the default dtml number display format from
integer to one decimal place floating point.
This breaks any sites that use dtml integer display.

Was this a deliberate change? If so what is the recommended solution for
replacing dtml such as <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
Should all dtml integer rendering be replaced with

<dtml-if "_.has_key('link_id')"><dtml-var link_id fmt="%i"><dtml-else>0</dtml-if>

or is there an economical way of displaying an integer in dtml?

Thanks,
Ed Crewe

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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Mon Mar  3 16:33:29 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:33:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Properties
In-Reply-To: <86648634.1046706461@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC516@server1.bkinformatik.dk> <86648634.1046706461@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <b4004v$r8h$1@main.gmane.org>

Andreas Jung wrote:
> hasattr()
> 
> --On Montag, 3. März 2003 15:34 +0100 "Jens JB. Bjerre" 
> <jens@bkinformatik.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Is there anyway how I can test, if an object (of any kind) has a special
>> property.?

Depending on your problem hasProperty() will be better than hasattr(), 
because hasattr() returns true for acquired properties as well.

-mj

-- 
Deutsche/German Zope User Group (DZUG)
http://www.dzug.org/Members/mjablonski/




From nicoe@altern.org  Mon Mar  3 17:22:20 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:22:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Web mail & web chat
In-Reply-To: <BA892D00.460%marc@sharedbase.com>
References: <BA892D00.460%marc@sharedbase.com>
Message-ID: <20030303172220.GA22900@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

* Marc Burgauer  [17:02 03/03/03 CET]:=20
>
>http://www.zope.org/Members/maraf/WebMail
>
>It requires an IMAP server, currently we're still only doing POP3.

There is a version supporting pop3 here :

http://www.zope.org/Members/maraf/POPVersionNews

HTH

--=20
(=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


From creiman@kefta.com  Mon Mar  3 17:26:08 2003
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:26:08 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
In-Reply-To: <000001c2e033$2f2234c0$0bcdae18@LUISLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKMEMCDIAA.creiman@kefta.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Luis
> Cortes
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:43 PM
> To: Zope Mailing List
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Simple Persistent Cookie
>
>
> I thought this would work, does anybody have a clue why it doesn't?
>
> <dtml-call
> expr="RESPONSE.setHeader('Set-Cookie','lastVisited=1999/01/01;expi
> res=2003/0
> 3/03')">
> <dtml-var lastVisited>

This has nothing to do with zope. You aren't following the spec for cookies.
Cookies are very picky and you must follow the Netscape spec as closely as
you can. In particuar, you don't have spaces after the semicolons and your
date format is wrong. You probably should also set a domain and path.




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 17:53:28 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:53:28 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VideoCapture module fails under Zope on Win32
In-Reply-To: <30288422389.20030303042323@Vex.Net>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030302171824.01d44b90@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030227121439.021e9ec8@www.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030228090324.02223b00@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030302171824.01d44b90@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303094806.01db5558@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 01:23 AM 3/3/2003, Tim wrote:
>Dylan wrote on Sunday, March 2, 2003, 8:36:03 PM:
> > It may well be the case that the VideoCapture maintainers would have
> > a pretty good idea of what might cause this error. That could push
>
>Already tried this before posting to the Zope list. The author,
>unfortunately, said he had no idea, and had no time to fiddle with the
>code anymore.

Bummer.

One other thought... if this works from the command line, what about 
ditching the product format and moving over to an set of External Methods 
and ZMI interface methods?  It's not as neat and tidy, but it might get the 
job done.


> > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/52215
>
>If nothing else, i get this handy snippet out of all this. (-:

Well, at least there's a silver lining *somewhere* in this cloud.  :-)

Dylan



From juan@latinwit.com  Mon Mar  3 15:05:11 2003
From: juan@latinwit.com (Juan Emilio Drault)
Date: 03 Mar 2003 15:05:11 +0000
Subject: [Zope] How to run periodic processes - How to set Mail Host
Message-ID: <1046703918.22905.11.camel@localhost.com>

Hello everybody

I'm looking for this information.

How to run periodic processes inside Zope? 
I need it to run a process that sends E-mail every hour.

Another related question is:

How to set a Mail Host if the SMTP server requires authentication? 

Thanks a lot in advance.

Juan E. Drault






From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar  3 18:45:53 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:45:53 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D52C@desi2>

Forgive the generality of this comment, but I think one of the biggest
things going for Zope is that it takes some hard integration problems and
makes them simple.

- ZEO makes object persistence cluster, and without really needing to do
much to your applications (other than have good conflict-handling code in
your applications to deal with increased storage write latency for the
network, and handling cache invalidation mechanisms).  So for the most part,
clustered persistent objects allow things like shared sessioning across your
cluster to just work.  Scaling becomes less of a development issue and more
of an integration/sysadmin issue, like it should be.  I'll go out on a limb
to say that Java is going to make you work harder to not only get
close-to-transparent object persistence, but making that scale and cluster
will be harder, and certainly you will be tied down to one particular ODB or
serialization/storage framework vendor; ZODB is more open and more-or-less a
standard for Python folks.  ZODB makes transactions easy too.

- Have you showed your management some of John Udell's latest InfoWorld
columns? ("Shipping the Prototype" and "Refactoring the Enterprise")?
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/06/06stratdev_1.html
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/13/07stratdev_1.html

- The Plone folks have plugged in their 1.0 press release that they support
the first "industry standard templating language" (paraphrase) in Zope Page
Templates.  Since there are implementations of PT/TAL in other languages
now, you could argue that for the presentation layer, you get something
cleaner and more standardized than the popular (but platform specific) JSP
type solution.

- Make the case for Python; Zope naturally follows.  One ROI factor for the
suits could be explained in terms of lower post-project "is done" expenses
(and therefore less risk), and that the language will enable your project to
be maintained without high-cost in the long term, which decreases (a) the
risk of scrapping the project 2 years down the line (because you can adapt
easier), and (b) the risk that you will need to spend big $$ on major
changes.  Python lends itself to the "embrace change as inevitable" school
of thought, and gives you something easier to manage changes in the system
with.  I think Udell's two articles go far to make this plug for "scripting
the enterprise."  Plug Python's use for Star Wars at ILM, Google, etc.  I
would also argue that Python makes it easier to write code in terms of your
application, rather than make your business fit your technology or spend
most of your time writing "bridge" code to make the two connect. See
http://www.python-in-business.org/success for case-study type blips as to
folks using Python. 

- Scalability: plug ZODB's storage-agnosticism to your management folks.
You can use FileStorage, you can use BerkeleyDB storage, you can use
DirectoryStorage (which will scale quite well, has tools for incremental
backup and replication, and you can also use standard Unix tools too - works
quite well for high-availability clustering), etc.  On top of various object
storage mechanisms, there is now a great mapping storage in
AdaptableStorage, which allows you to write plugins to serialize object data
to pretty much any mechanism you could think of (RDB, XML, LDAP, etc).  This
flexibility (with mostly free, easily available, vendor-agnostic software)
is likely to be better and cheaper than what you might find in the Java
world, where these things are less standardized, and more vendor-specific.

Personally, I think the lower-costs, lower-risk, more flexibility arguments
go pretty far. Java, as a popular platform is a low-risk platform, but it
does this by moving the risk to the application (forcing you to deal with
object persistence or serialization, transactions, sessions, etc, choose
competing implementations of 3rd party technology - batteries not included)
and making the developer compensate to keep the risk low, but this makes
costs high.  Zope, like Python has batteries included for a lot of things
that are traditionally application-developer's problems, and removes some of
the complexity away from having to do it yourself.  Java's popularity, on
the other hand, encourages choice, but also forces it on you as well, by
playing to the hands of multiple vendors for app servers, object database
technology, etc.  Zope's integrated nature makes it easier to get started
quickly without costly vendor or 3rd party technology commitments that may
turn out to be a poor match.   Python is less popular, but decreases the
risks of your project, which ultimately is what really matters much more
than the platform.  I hope this is somehow helpful.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Samir Mishra [mailto:SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:08 AM
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: RE: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope


Thanks everyone.

Any Project managers out there with something to add with regard to
comparison between speed of implementation for Zove vs. other products? 

Personally, I place maintainability and transitioning skills as my top
priority, and elegance of code comes last. Speed (e.g., of the server) is a
non-issue because one can always allocate better hardware for this since
it's a mere commodity now, intellectual capital is always at a premium.

And that's why I like Zope :)

But I still have to sell the concept to managers who only hear "Java" &
"JSP" from software vendors and so are most familiar with these
technologies.

Samir.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Browning [mailto:paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk]
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:58
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Cc: Samir Mishra
Subject: Re: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope




--On 01 March 2003 21:52 +0100 Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> wrote:

> Samir Mishra wrote at 2003-3-1 14:26 +0400:
>  > My manager has requested comments on whether Zope "performs like a
> dog". I'm  > doing some digging around at the moment, but, in the
> meantime, if anyone has  > any links to recommend, benchmarks,
> experiences to share, that I can use to  > counter his 'assertion', it
> would be much appreciated.
>

One way of getting Zope "run like a bow-legged
terrier on sleeping pills" (Pieters, M., pers. comm.)
is to use multi-processor Solaris without paying attention
to the threading issues (see
<http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb/solaris>).

If you're starting from a clean sheet it's probably
best to avoid Solaris.

Paul

--
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   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/

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From elyssab@fremontpublic.org  Mon Mar  3 18:53:02 2003
From: elyssab@fremontpublic.org (Back, Elyssa)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:53:02 -0800
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
Message-ID: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>

Good morning,

I am Zope newbie who used the program in December to build a medium-sized
site.  I installed Zope on my work computer and did all my development
there.

When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the server,
the installation program, the supporting software, ect....

I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is documentation
about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.

Thanks so much!  

Elyssa

**************
It is impossible for us simply to serve soup and provide shelter without
crying out that homelessness is a gross injustice and an indictment of a
society that has so much and yet will not make available to all persons the
basic necessities of food and housing.
		-Ed Loring, The Open Door Community, Atlanta




From list@zettai.net  Mon Mar  3 18:57:36 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:57:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] How to run periodic processes - How to set Mail Host
In-Reply-To: <1046703918.22905.11.camel@localhost.com>
Message-ID: <BA890FD0.2073C%list@zettai.net>

[Juan Emilio Drault wrote (juan@latinwit.com) on 3/3/03 10:05 AM]

hi

> How to run periodic processes inside Zope?
> I need it to run a process that sends E-mail every hour.

you can use the XRON product but a better solution would be to use Cron
(Unix/Linux).

> Another related question is:
> 
> How to set a Mail Host if the SMTP server requires authentication?

I believe there is a product in development called ESMTP mail host or
something like that.

http://www.zope.org/Members/bowerymarc/ESMTPMailHost

hth

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar  3 19:08:29 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:08:29 -0600
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
In-Reply-To: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
References: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
Message-ID: <3E63A82D.4090101@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
>completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the server,
>the installation program, the supporting software, ect....
>
>I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
>restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is documentation
>about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.
>  
>
Yikes. Well, unless your sysadmin also made a backup, I'm afraid you're 
out of luck unless:

-- the var/Data.fs file is still around. If you set up an INSTANCE_HOME 
type installation, this is possible, since the data would reside in a 
different place than the program. Or maybe the var directory survived by 
chance in a regular install. If you can find it, all you need do is 
replace the file of the same name in a new install and you'll be up and 
running (provided your new install has all the necessary products 
installed.)

-- you can figure out how to do some "undeleting" on your operating 
system. This is usually difficult, but not impossible. If there hasn't 
been much activity on that computer, it's likely your old data is still 
around, though inaccessible. Again, the only thing you need be 
interested in is Data.fs (and any custom products/external methods you 
may have developed.) If your OS has no good native facilites for this 
(most don't) there are third-party programs and data-recovery businesses 
that can get even heavily deleted data back.

-- it is mostly a static site and someone managed to archive it. Good 
possibilities are Google and Internet Archive (archive.org). This 
doesn't work unless was publically visible.

          --jcc



From jmeile@hotmail.com  Mon Mar  3 19:23:21 2003
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:23:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to run periodic processes - How to set Mail Host
Message-ID: <DAV69cvsq9IcVux1Zcn0002256e@hotmail.com>

> [Juan Emilio Drault wrote (juan@l...) on 3/3/03 10:05 AM]
>
> hi
>
> > How to run periodic processes inside Zope?
> > I need it to run a process that sends E-mail every hour.
>
> you can use the XRON product but a better solution would be to use Cron
> (Unix/Linux).
I would also recommend you Cron. Once I used XCron and my system crashed
everytime without finishing the XCron Method (It wasn't a Xron issue, but it
affected
the XCron Schedule). When Zope tried to restart, it tried to excecute the
XCron
Method again, so I got another email. It did it till I opened my email box
(I got 500
emails).

With Cron and wget this won't happen because unix/linux finish the
excecution of the
method without caring if it whether crashes or not.

Regards,
Josef


From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Mon Mar  3 19:19:04 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:19:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
In-Reply-To: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303031115000.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

If everything was deleted, there's not much that can be done.  Perhaps you
can get the SysAdmin to restore the site from backups.  All you really
need (assuming you are doing nothing fancy) is Data.fs, the object
oriented database that contains all Zope persistent objects.  Reinstall 
Zope and any Products you are using, put Data.fs in the var directory, and
you should be in business again.  If you used any Python extensions,
you'll have to recover them from backups as well.

On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Back, Elyssa wrote:

> Good morning,
> 
> I am Zope newbie who used the program in December to build a medium-sized
> site.  I installed Zope on my work computer and did all my development
> there.
> 
> When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
> completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the server,
> the installation program, the supporting software, ect....
> 
> I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
> restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is documentation
> about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.
> 
> Thanks so much!  
> 
> Elyssa
> 
> **************
> It is impossible for us simply to serve soup and provide shelter without
> crying out that homelessness is a gross injustice and an indictment of a
> society that has so much and yet will not make available to all persons the
> basic necessities of food and housing.
> 		-Ed Loring, The Open Door Community, Atlanta
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar  3 19:06:14 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:06:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
In-Reply-To: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
References: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
Message-ID: <102158806.1046721974@[192.168.0.2]>

First ask your system adminstrator if there is backup or second kick him.
On Windows system there is a slight chance to undelete removed data. Google
should give you an overview over the existing tools. But this all sounds=20
like
you're having bad luck

-aj

--On Montag, 3. M=E4rz 2003 10:53 -0800 "Back, Elyssa"=20
<elyssab@fremontpublic.org> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I am Zope newbie who used the program in December to build a medium-sized
> site.  I installed Zope on my work computer and did all my development
> there.
>
> When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
> completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the server,
> the installation program, the supporting software, ect....
>
> I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
> restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is documentation
> about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Elyssa
>
> **************
> It is impossible for us simply to serve soup and provide shelter without
> crying out that homelessness is a gross injustice and an indictment of a
> society that has so much and yet will not make available to all persons
> the basic necessities of food and housing.
> 		-Ed Loring, The Open Door Community, Atlanta
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar  3 19:24:32 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:24:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
In-Reply-To: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
References: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
Message-ID: <20030303192432.GA1256@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 10:53:02AM -0800, Back, Elyssa wrote:
> When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
> completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the server,
> the installation program, the supporting software, ect....
> 
> I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
> restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is documentation
> about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.

Everything you did in the ZOpe management interface would get stored
in a file called Data.fs.
So, search for that.

if it doesn't exist, one would hope that your sysadmin has backups
stored somewhere... you'd better ask him.

--

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From baiewola@netscape.net  Mon Mar  3 19:33:20 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:33:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups and CMF not working
Message-ID: <59403C6E.3DD3F8C0.00923364@netscape.net>

I installed NuxUserGroups, but the product was broken. The traceback error said "No module named CMFCore.CatalogTool."

I presumed that I had to install CMF, so I did. After installation, CMFCore, CMFDefault, and CMFTopic appear in my products list unbroken, but I can't create a CMF Site object (it should be in the pulldown menu, right?). And NuxUserGroups is still broken.

The weird thing is that I now have the option of giving local roles to groups -- I just can't create the groups.

*     For CMF, is it mandatory that Zope be installed using /var/zope as my INSTANCE_HOME  and /usr/local/zope/ as my SOFTWARE_HOME?

*     If that's the problem, what do I need to change about CMF to make it work with my own installation?

Many thanks.

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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar  3 19:42:03 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:42:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to run periodic processes - How to set Mail Ho st
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D52E@desi2>

I like cron, but not in combination with wget.  I have found this (poking
methods via http) to be problematic for me in the past with automated tasks,
and have mostly switched over my processes to using out-of-process temporary
ZEO-enabled Zope.app() instances in python modules executed by cron jobs.

More info on my comparitive thoughts wget vs. Zope.app(), and example code:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.user/2490
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2003-February/131882.html

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Josef Meile [mailto:jmeile@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:23 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to run periodic processes - How to set Mail Host


> [Juan Emilio Drault wrote (juan@l...) on 3/3/03 10:05 AM]
>
> hi
>
> > How to run periodic processes inside Zope?
> > I need it to run a process that sends E-mail every hour.
>
> you can use the XRON product but a better solution would be to use Cron
> (Unix/Linux).
I would also recommend you Cron. Once I used XCron and my system crashed
everytime without finishing the XCron Method (It wasn't a Xron issue, but it
affected
the XCron Schedule). When Zope tried to restart, it tried to excecute the
XCron
Method again, so I got another email. It did it till I opened my email box
(I got 500
emails).

With Cron and wget this won't happen because unix/linux finish the
excecution of the
method without caring if it whether crashes or not.

Regards,
Josef

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar  3 19:48:17 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:48:17 -0600
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
In-Reply-To: <3E63A82D.4090101@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER> <3E63A82D.4090101@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E63B181.6040007@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>> When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
>> completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the 
>> server,
>> the installation program, the supporting software, ect....
>>
>> I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
>> restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is 
>> documentation
>> about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.
>
> Yikes. Well, unless your sysadmin also made a backup, I'm afraid 
> you're out of luck unless:

Oh, and also I recommend you skin your sysadmin for wantonly deleting 
your data.

          --jcc



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar  3 20:30:03 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:30:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] 3rd party eloctronic payment solutions
Message-ID: <3E63BB4B.1040406@neurobs.com>

Does anybody have any experience with integrating third party electronic 
payment solutions with a zope site?
If yes which one would you recommend?
ANs how hard or easy is it to do it?

Thanks
AM

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar  3 20:34:23 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:34:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D52C@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D52C@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E63BC4F.9020207@jcameroncooper.com>

There are some numbers here:

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html

          --jcc



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 20:38:18 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:38:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] restoring deleted data
In-Reply-To: <3E63A82D.4090101@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
 <413368CBF863D411BD560050BA8F75390181162F@FPASERVER>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303123008.01da21e0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 11:08 AM 3/3/2003, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
>>When I came in last week, I found that my system administrator had
>>completely deleted my version of zope.  Everything was gone - the server,
>>the installation program, the supporting software, ect....
>>
>>I was just wondering if there was a way to recover any of my code or to
>>restore the site, without re-doing everything.  If there is documentation
>>about this on one of the zope sites, feel free to point me to it.
>>
>Yikes. Well, unless your sysadmin also made a backup, I'm afraid you're 
>out of luck unless:

What everyone else said, plus:

If you're running Windoze (not that I have any reason to suspect you 
are...) I've used R-Studio as a file recovery tool with great results in 
the past.  It supports not only FAT32, but also trickier stuff like NTFS, 
ext2, RAID and other schemes.  It isn't free, but they do have a demo 
version that will show you the files you'll be able to recover with the 
commercial version.  When I needed it, it was the best $80 I've ever spent.

http://www.r-studio.com/

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 20:43:30 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:43:30 -0800
Subject: [Zope] 3rd party eloctronic payment solutions
In-Reply-To: <3E63BB4B.1040406@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303123836.01d74ec8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 12:30 PM 3/3/2003, AM wrote:
>Does anybody have any experience with integrating third party electronic 
>payment solutions with a zope site?
>If yes which one would you recommend?
>ANs how hard or easy is it to do it?

I've integrated with Authorize.Net without much difficulty.  There are 
Python scripts available at SourceForge for several common gateways that 
were pretty easy to adapt to this purpose:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/payment/

The hardest part of the whole thing isn't integration with the gateway, but 
building a secure client interface, implementing SSL and making a 
determination about how to store the resulting data securely.

HTH,

Dylan



From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar  3 19:56:46 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:56:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] dynamically generated TAL not being interpreted
In-Reply-To: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu>
References: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu>
Message-ID: <15971.45950.565229.839572@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

N. Thomas wrote at 2003-3-1 23:46 -0500:
 > We have a script that generates TAL. The problem is that the content is
 > not being interpeted as TAL by Zope, but rather as raw HTML.
 > 
 > A search through the mailing lists archives found a posting from last
 > September where someone was trying to do something similar. According to
 > one of the replies, the HTML is supposed to have the TAL namespace
 > declaration, so I changed my code to produce something like this at the
 > top:
 > 
 >     <html xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
 >           metal:use-macro="here/main_template/macros/master">
 > 
 > But the problem persists.
 > 
 > Does anyone know how I can do this?

You cannot return TAL source code and expect it to be rendered.

You must make a Page Template object from your TAL source code,
wrap it in an appropriate context (--> "__of__") and return it (or call it
to let it render).

You can do this only in an External Method (or other filesystem
based code).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar  3 19:52:42 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:52:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZODB Conflict errors
In-Reply-To: <1046550993.1356.17.camel@tempest.swamp>
References: <1046550993.1356.17.camel@tempest.swamp>
Message-ID: <15971.45706.129729.265917@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mike Heath wrote at 2003-3-1 13:36 -0700:
 > We're getting repeated ZODB conflict errors.  They seam to only be
 > occurring using frames when we have multiple users accessing the page at
 > the same time.  What is causing this?  We're not doing any modifications
 > to objects in the Zope database.

Almost surely, it is the session machinery.

If it is, there is not much you can do about this.

  Try to use session only when really necessary.

  Howfully, a session access in not necessary in each of your frames.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar  3 19:58:58 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:58:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Adaptable Storage Problem
In-Reply-To: <BA881FAB.9992%andrew@logicalprogression.net>
References: <BA881FAB.9992%andrew@logicalprogression.net>
Message-ID: <15971.46082.413051.317828@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Andrew Veitch wrote at 2003-3-2 20:52 +0000:
 > I've got a problem with AdaptableStorage. If I set up a folder with
 > AdaptableStorage I can add a CMF site to it but not a Plone site. I get:
 > ....
 > RuntimeError: Unable to pickle the '_catalog' attribute, <Catalog instance
 > at 99526d0>, of <CatalogTool instance at 995d650> at
 > ('/fs/test2/portal_catalog',).  Cannot pickle <extension class
 > Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper at 40233ca0> objects.
 > 
 > I don't understand how a portal_catalog won't pickle with AdaptableStorage
 > but will with the ZODB.

This was today explained in "zope-dev@zope.org". Please read its archive.


Dieter


From sameer_@email.com  Mon Mar  3 22:05:08 2003
From: sameer_@email.com (sameer chaudhry)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:05:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] dtml files in dtml files?  getting frames to work on a simple Product
Message-ID: <20030303220508.28862.qmail@email.com>

I am trying to write a simple web based chat server Product.  The interface is simple with a frame for entering text, and another frame for viewing the chat so far.  My problem is that in a dtml file, I put links to two other dtml files (those being the two frames), and the frames don't show up.  How can I make this work?

  
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From dario@ita.chalmers.se  Mon Mar  3 22:21:35 2003
From: dario@ita.chalmers.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:21:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope+Oracle efficieny (was Re: [Zope-DB] ANN: eGenix mxODBC Zope Database Adapter, Version 1.0.0)
References: <222114854.1046591589@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <00fe01c2e1d3$40b66700$4bdf1081@WALTER>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Browning" <paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk>
> --On 28 February 2003 18:55 +0100 "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> wrote:
>
> <List of features snipped>
>
> Can someone who has a deeper understanding of this area than
> I please contrast (ideally against the mxODBC Zope DA feature list)
> things with ZOracleDA/DCOracle2?
>
> The links from <http://www.egenix.com/> took me eventually to
>
<http://www.datadirect-technologies.com/products/odbc/ken-north-report.asp>
> and the "Oracle ODBC Performance - Faster than Native" stuff.
>
> >From birth I've always been told ODBC is sloooowww .... don't go
> there. Might mxODBC Zope DA offer advantages to Zope/Oracle sites?
>
> We've had a tortured history with Zope+Oracle+Solaris (cf.
> <http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb/solaris>) and are about to
> side-step this by going Zope+Oracle+Linux.
>
> But the Oracle bit (i.e. ZOracleDA/DCOracle2) of the equation still
> looks dubious from time to time and so hence my questions.
>

well, I am no expert either but AFAIK Oracle uses SQL*NET for ODBC
communications (ODBC sits on top of SQL*NET). Not sure if this is slower or
not. I also have the impression that ODBC is slower per se, but perhaps
coupled with better connection pooling it makes mxODBC faster?

Nad how would mxODBC's pooling differ from Zope's "pooling" of connections
by keping them open?

I understand from previous mailexchange that the preformance of a heavly DB
driven (DB=RDBMS) is in part defined by the amount of ZODB-connections as
well as the amount of threads available to the Zope-process.

I wonder though if the *sheer number* of active/connected ZOracleDA objects
in the ZODB has some relevance to those numbers (ie. more open DA objects
means increase threads and/or ZODB connections?). I have not read any
specific numbers and I have yet to begin to understand how the amount of
ZODB connections has an impact on the usage of ZOracleDA
connections/objects.

We do have experienced problems when using many connections to different
schemas and I know that at least one more person has experienced similar
problems (mem leaks, etc). Some of them wnet away as we reduced the amount
of DA objects.

Also, I would like to know how the kind of connection pooling that mxODBC
uses benefits Zope. Does it spawn it's own threads in an external process or
how does it work? Would it be possible to increase the performance of
DCOracle2 by using similar tchniques?

Thanks,

/dario



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Mon Mar  3 22:22:12 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:22:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Python calling python?
Message-ID: <F160FrwiZ9rWjAKYVpM0001a528@hotmail.com>

Somebody make this simple for me. I have two python scripts (internal not 
external). I want to call the first script using DTML/ZPT. I
have no problem in that regard... BUT... I want to call then use th first 
script to call the second script. As soon as I try to include that 
functionality it falls apart. If I try to import I get 'not authorized'. If 
I try to access it the same way I do ZSQL methods 'context.whatevername()' I 
get "whatevername" not defined.

What am I missing? Is it a security thing? Did I miss some important piece  
of documentation?





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From Francois@iecholden.com  Mon Mar  3 22:22:30 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:22:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Linux...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC4@exchange.iecholden.com>

Hi all,

I need to install PIL on a Zope server, that was installed from a binary
distribution. How can I install PIL in the Python version that came with
Zope?


Francois 


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar  3 22:45:34 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:45:34 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml files in dtml files?  getting frames to work
 on a simple Product
In-Reply-To: <20030303220508.28862.qmail@email.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303143745.01da33a0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 02:05 PM 3/3/2003, sameer chaudhry wrote:
>I am trying to write a simple web based chat server Product.  The 
>interface is simple with a frame for entering text, and another frame for 
>viewing the chat so far.  My problem is that in a dtml file, I put links 
>to two other dtml files (those being the two frames), and the frames don't 
>show up.  How can I make this work?

There's no reason this shouldn't work if you're setting up frames correctly 
in HTML.

For example, say you had something like this as your index_html:

<frameset rows="*,75">
    <frame src=http://server/path/content_method>
    <frame src=http://server/path/footer_method>
</frameset>

If you have dtml methods called content_method and footer_method at the 
path specified, it should work fine.

If your problem is targeting frames with your links, look into the 
name="foo" attribute of <frame> or the target="foo" attribute of <a>.

If that's not what you're doing or there is some fancier intention at work, 
it's tough to say what's going wrong unless you post your code and/or some 
details on what problems and/or errors you're seeing.

Dylan



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar  3 22:40:26 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:40:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Python calling python?
In-Reply-To: <F160FrwiZ9rWjAKYVpM0001a528@hotmail.com>
References: <F160FrwiZ9rWjAKYVpM0001a528@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20030303224026.GB1957@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 10:22:12PM +0000, Michael Havard wrote:
> script to call the second script. As soon as I try to include that 
> functionality it falls apart. If I try to import I get 'not authorized'.

they're not modules anyway, so importing them could never work...

> If 
> I try to access it the same way I do ZSQL methods 'context.whatevername()' 
> I get "whatevername" not defined.

that should work. check your spelling, and that script1 can acquire script2.

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From David.Bear@asu.edu  Mon Mar  3 23:04:20 2003
From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:04:20 -0700
Subject: [Zope] plone problem
Message-ID: <20030303160420.F6160@asu.edu>

just installed plone.  I unzip/tarred it and put symlinks in my
Products directory to all the CMFPl* folders created by tar.  However,
there are problems.  Here's the traceback printed with zope starts.
The error's don't appear critical as zope is still running.  I just
haven't created in plone objects yet.  Any advice?
================================

2003-03-03T15:41:53 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import
Products.ActivePak
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 541,
in import_product
  File /home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/Products/ActivePak/__init__.py,
line 2, in ?
  File /home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/Products/CMFPlone/__init__.py,
line 3, in ?
  File
/home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/Products/CMFPlone/migrations/__init__.py,
line 4, in ?
  File
/home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/Products/CMFPlone/migrations/rc1_rc2.py,
line 4, in ?
  File /home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/Products/CMFPlone/Portal.py,
line 14, in ?
ImportError: No module named CMFCalendar.Extensions
------

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar  3 23:05:20 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:05:20 -0600
Subject: [Zope] dtml files in dtml files?  getting frames to work on a
 simple Product
In-Reply-To: <20030303220508.28862.qmail@email.com>
References: <20030303220508.28862.qmail@email.com>
Message-ID: <3E63DFB0.2020603@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I am trying to write a simple web based chat server Product.  The interface is simple with a frame for entering text, and another frame for viewing the chat so far.  My problem is that in a dtml file, I put links to two other dtml files (those being the two frames), and the frames don't show up.  How can I make this work?
>  
>
Beats me. What you just wrote could mean you're doing any number of 
things. If you show us your source, maybe someone can spot the error.

But since I like shooting in the dark, you should be doing something 
like this fragment:

<frameset>
  <frame src="&dtml.url-frame1" name="frame1" />
  <frame src="<dtml-var frame2 url>" name="frame2" />
</frameset>

Remember that the frameset takes a URL, not content. That's what the 
DTML above gives you (in two different syntaxes) for 'frame1' and 'frame2'.

For relative links, I suppose you could also say

<frameset>
  <frame src="frame1" name="frame1" />
  <frame src="frame2" name="frame2" />
</frameset>

Notice that here there's no DTML involved.

Note: This is all untested. But it should work.
Also note: don't use frames if you can get away with it. Frames are bad.

          --jcc




From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Mon Mar  3 23:12:00 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:12:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Python calling python?
In-Reply-To: <F160FrwiZ9rWjAKYVpM0001a528@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303031503570.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>


On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Michael Havard wrote:

> Somebody make this simple for me. I have two python scripts (internal not 
> external). I want to call the first script using DTML/ZPT. I
> have no problem in that regard... BUT... I want to call then use th first 
> script to call the second script. As soon as I try to include that 
> functionality it falls apart. If I try to import I get 'not authorized'. If 
> I try to access it the same way I do ZSQL methods 'context.whatevername()' I 
> get "whatevername" not defined.
> 
> What am I missing? Is it a security thing? Did I miss some important piece  
> of documentation?

You can call another acquirable python script using

	context.otherscript(arg,...)




From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Mon Mar  3 23:14:04 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:14:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Linux...
In-Reply-To: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC4@exchange.iecholden.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303031512320.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>


On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Meehan, Francois wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I need to install PIL on a Zope server, that was installed from a binary
> distribution. How can I install PIL in the Python version that came with
> Zope?
> 
Follow the instructions that come with the PIL distribution but use the
python used by the binary distribution $INSTANCE_HOME/bin/python usually.




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar  3 23:16:26 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:16:26 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Python calling python?
In-Reply-To: <F160FrwiZ9rWjAKYVpM0001a528@hotmail.com>
References: <F160FrwiZ9rWjAKYVpM0001a528@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E63E24A.1010400@jcameroncooper.com>

> If I try to import I get 'not authorized'.

Import is not available in Python Scripts. So it's never authorized.

> If I try to access it the same way I do ZSQL methods 
> 'context.whatevername()' I get "whatevername" not defined.

That should work if 'whatevername' is in 'context'.  Find out what 
'context' is and make sure it acquires 'whatevername'. Depending on your 
organization, 'container' may be better, as it is more explicit.

       --jcc



From sameer_@email.com  Mon Mar  3 23:24:00 2003
From: sameer_@email.com (sameer chaudhry)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:24:00 -0500
Subject: [Zope] do I need to build a product for this?
Message-ID: <20030303232400.21219.qmail@email.com>

I have done this using products but I'm wonder if the following is easier done within the Zope machinery.

I want to have a python list at a URL say: some_server/list

I want to update that list by appending a line of text to it by going to the URL: someserver/list/updatelist

I want to see the updated list by going to the URL: someserver/list/viewlist.  

Is this possible without building a Product which supports the persistence of the list?
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From fearless_froggie@yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 00:23:16 2003
From: fearless_froggie@yahoo.com (Fearless Froggie)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:23:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Getting metatype information
Message-ID: <20030304002316.2338.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

If I have an address such as the following:

an_address = context.REQUEST['URL2']

How would I get the metatype of the object
"an_address" is pointing to? I have the feeling that
it shouldn't be too difficult, but I just can't seem
to wrap my head around it!

Many thanks, Rita.

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 00:30:03 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:30:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] do I need to build a product for this?
In-Reply-To: <20030303232400.21219.qmail@email.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303162617.01d26ba8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 03:24 PM 3/3/2003, sameer chaudhry wrote:
>I have done this using products but I'm wonder if the following is easier 
>done within the Zope machinery.
>
>I want to have a python list at a URL say: some_server/list
>
>I want to update that list by appending a line of text to it by going to 
>the URL: someserver/list/updatelist
>
>I want to see the updated list by going to the URL: 
>someserver/list/viewlist.
>
>Is this possible without building a Product which supports the persistence 
>of the list?

Yep.

If all you want to do is maintain a single list, just make that data the 
property of some object.  Then create methods that set/edit/view that 
information.

Only if you're looking to stamp out a large number of objects that maintain 
separate lists will products be the easier way to go.

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 00:45:29 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:45:29 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Getting metatype information
In-Reply-To: <20030304002316.2338.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030303163027.01d26528@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 04:23 PM 3/3/2003, Fearless Froggie wrote:
>Hi,
>
>If I have an address such as the following:
>
>an_address = context.REQUEST['URL2']
>
>How would I get the metatype of the object
>"an_address" is pointing to?

Assuming that the last object referenced in the URL represents the object 
in question, you can use the following in a Python Script:

my_obj_name = context.REQUEST['URL'][len(context.REQUEST['URL1'])+1:]
return context[my_obj_name].meta_type

HTH,

Dylan



From shepnorfleet@comcast.net  Tue Mar  4 01:29:19 2003
From: shepnorfleet@comcast.net (Sheppard Norfleet)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:29:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope Installation Problems
Message-ID: <001601c2e1ed$7a5402a0$0202a8c0@peanut>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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I am using Rad Hat Linux 7.x.  which comes with python 2.2 not the problem.  I have Zope that has a python 2.1 one with it.  when I try to build w_pcgi.py using the python that comes with zope, I get compile errors when trying to build the exception modules, the last message has a message like "I and PICKY raiseError"  

There are a ton of warning and a few errors sprinkled in a compiler output (or at least it looks like that).   

Anyway I have been working at this installation for about a week, I have tried a source install and binary install.  No matter which way I go zope fails to build using the 2.1 python that comes with it.  

Has anyone else had these problems?  Trying to run Zope like this:
bin/python z2.py -p /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/zope.pcgi 

all I get in return is a new bash prompt wiht no warnings.  the log files are empty or don't exist.  Please help!

BTW, don't mean to knock mailing lists but wouldnt forums be a lot easier way to communicate?  Just a thought...

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Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am using Rad Hat Linux 7.x.&nbsp; which comes 
with python 2.2 not the problem.&nbsp; I have Zope that has a python 2.1 one 
with it.&nbsp; when I try to build w_pcgi.py using the python that comes with 
zope, I get compile errors when trying to build the exception modules, the last 
message has a message like "I and PICKY raiseError"&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are a ton of warning and a few errors 
sprinkled in a compiler output (or at least it looks like that).&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway I have been working at this installation for 
about a week, I have tried a source install and binary install.&nbsp; No matter 
which way I go zope fails to build using the 2.1 python that comes with 
it.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone else had these problems?&nbsp; Trying to 
run Zope like this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>bin/python z2.py -p 
/usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/zope.pcgi </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>all I get in return is a new bash prompt wiht no 
warnings.&nbsp; the log files are empty or don't exist.&nbsp; Please 
help!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, don't mean to knock mailing lists but wouldnt 
forums be a lot easier way to communicate?&nbsp; Just a 
thought...</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Tue Mar  4 01:55:50 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:55:50 +1300
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 changed default number format
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303031612250.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303031612250.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3E6407A6.90105@d-designz.co.nz>

I just tried a DTML in 2.6.1 and it looked like everything was working 
as it should:

<dtml-var link_id missing="0">
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3)">
<dtml-var link_id missing="0">
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3.0)">
<dtml-var link_id missing="0">

Returned:

0
3
3.0

Ed Crewe wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Rather than do uneccesary work can I just enquire about
>whether recent numeric handling changes in Zope 2.6.1 are intentional or
>might they be reversed?
>
>Zope 2.6.1 has changed the default dtml number display format from
>integer to one decimal place floating point.
>This breaks any sites that use dtml integer display.
>
>Was this a deliberate change? If so what is the recommended solution for
>replacing dtml such as <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
>Should all dtml integer rendering be replaced with
>
><dtml-if "_.has_key('link_id')"><dtml-var link_id
>fmt="%i"><dtml-else>0</dtml-if>
>
>or is there an economical way of displaying an integer in dtml?
>
>Thanks,
>Ed Crewe
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
> Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
> University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
> 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists - 
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>  
>



From tree@basistech.com  Tue Mar  4 05:13:39 2003
From: tree@basistech.com (Tom Emerson)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:13:39 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Finding owner of an object
Message-ID: <15972.13827.263783.814537@magrathea.basistech.com>

Greetings,

I have a folder of files (think the FileLibrary example), where files
may be owned by different people. In a ZPT I would like to limit the
set of files that are displayed to those owned by the current user. I
can't find a way to get the owner of a given object: what am I
missing?

For example, I use

container.Submissions.objectValues('File')

to get the set of files in the Submissions folder. Is there a method I
can call on each File object to get its owner?

TIA,

    -tree

-- 
Tom Emerson                                          Basis Technology Corp.
Software Architect                                 http://www.basistech.com
  "Beware the lollipop of mediocrity: lick it once and you suck forever"


From ssmith@mustang1965.com  Tue Mar  4 06:18:03 2003
From: ssmith@mustang1965.com (Steven Smith)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 01:18:03 -0500
Subject: [Zope] how to test to find image
Message-ID: <3E64451B.9020608@mustang1965.com>

I'm email this list again since several were nice enough to respond last 
time. I new and this list is helpful.

I'm in Plone and want to display an image at the top of a UI box (like 
to top of the related or navigation box). However this image needs to 
change depending on what subfolder/branch I'm at. Normally I have seen 
the use of the tag "here/myimage.gif". My understanding is the default 
is to start at the top most directory and work its way through the site 
until it finds the first occurance of myimage.gif. I would like to 
reverse this behavior. I need it to start looking in the current 
location and work upwards until it finds myimage.gif.

The reason is that under each of my first level subfolders I have placed 
a myimage.gif file. Even if I'm maybe four folders down I want to 
display that myimage.gif from the current branch (which my be three 
folders up). However if the normal logic of 'here' works it will find 
the wrong myimage.gif.


<div class="box">
    <img tal:replace="structure here/myimage.gif" />
    <other tags and things .....>
</div>


Thanks,
Steven



From lsh@wo.cz  Mon Mar  3 18:08:15 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:08:15 -0000
Subject: [Zope] STX - how to add new function
Message-ID: <E18q6Td-0002SC-00@mail.python.org>

Hi all,

I want to add into STX two new functions - 

line break with syntax:

paragraph text

;; linebreak text


And blockquote tag

,, This is indented paragraph

(tag marks should be other)

I'm not big pythonist, would someone help me with that, please.

Many thanks,

J. Lukesh


From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar  4 07:11:32 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:11:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] STX - how to add new function
In-Reply-To: <E18q6Td-0002SC-00@mail.python.org>
References: <E18q6Td-0002SC-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <1043400.1046765492@[0.0.0.2]>

Checkout lib/python/StructuredText/DocumentClass.py. But I recommend to
keep your fingers from the code unless you really know what you are doing.

-aj

--On Montag, 3. M=E4rz 2003 18:08 +0000 Jaroslav Lukesh <lukesh@seznam.cz>=20
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I want to add into STX two new functions -
>
> line break with syntax:
>
> paragraph text
>
> ;; linebreak text
>
>
> And blockquote tag
>
> ,, This is indented paragraph
>
> (tag marks should be other)
>
> I'm not big pythonist, would someone help me with that, please.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> J. Lukesh
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )




--=20
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From alet@librelogiciel.com  Tue Mar  4 09:22:06 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:22:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
Message-ID: <20030304092206.GA1145@mail.librelogiciel.com>

Hi,

I would like to create a python Zope product which allows me
to create persistent objects.

but these objects have (as subobjects ?) complex attributes which
are themselves instances of a non-Zope related class, and which
should not be persistent (think hardware plug&play), because
they are recreated every time a method is called on my instance.

I think I could do (untested) :

  myZopePersistentClassInstance.complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
        
but this will probably, if it works, bloat by ZODB.
 
is there a way to do this without suffering from severe bloat ?

thanks in advance

PS: I know this may not be very clear...

Jerome Alet

-- 
(c) 1928-???? The letters U, S, and A and the U.S.A. flag are  
the copyrighted property of Disney Enterprises Inc.  
Any infringment will be punished with the death penalty.
Details : http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/15/1528253&tid=123


From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Tue Mar  4 09:30:53 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:30:53 +0000
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
In-Reply-To: <20030304092206.GA1145@mail.librelogiciel.com>
References: <20030304092206.GA1145@mail.librelogiciel.com>
Message-ID: <200303040930.53435.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Tuesday 04 March 2003 9:22 am, Jerome Alet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to create a python Zope product which allows me
> to create persistent objects.
>
> but these objects have (as subobjects ?) complex attributes which
> are themselves instances of a non-Zope related class, and which
> should not be persistent (think hardware plug&play), because
> they are recreated every time a method is called on my instance.

Zope uses (by default) four publishing threads. That means you will get four 
copies of your objects in memory at any one time (or 8, if you have 2 zeo 
clients). You also have the possibility of ZODB choosing to deactivate your 
object, so all attributes are lost from all 4 of those objects.

'hardware plug&play' makes me think this is this what you want... Perhaps 
storing this special object in a module-level global would be better?

>   myZopePersistentClassInstance.complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
>
> but this will probably, if it works, bloat by ZODB.
>
> is there a way to do this without suffering from severe bloat ?

myZopePersistentClassInstance._v_complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()

will exclude that attribute from ZODB processing.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From mas@semafor.ch  Tue Mar  4 09:31:42 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:31:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to select pictures from another folder?
Message-ID: <3E64727E.50701@semafor.ch>

I've got a dtml-method index. There I want to call a picture, I do it 
like this:

<dtml-var picture>

That works fine...

But now I want to get a picture which is in another folder.

<dtml-var Images.picture>

and

<dtml-var Images/picture>

don't work...

how to do that?

Thanks
   Sorin Marti



From Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk  Tue Mar  4 09:40:24 2003
From: Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk (Ed Crewe)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:40:24 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 changed default number format
In-Reply-To: <3E6407A6.90105@d-designz.co.nz>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303040900030.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the response. Appologies this is my mistake. It is not a Zope
version issue, it is a DCOracle issue.

I have a site that is a front end to an Oracle database so nearly all
data is passed via the DCOracle interface. I have just realised that
DCOracle2 passes all integers as single decimal place floating points
whilst DCOracle1 didn't have this bug.

Thus select count(*) from an empty table returns 0.0!

Similarily all the primary keys that are passed around between pages
have .0 appended.

I have realised the solution is to wrap every integer field in TRUNC()
in all the sql methods to avoid this bug.

Thus select trunc(count(*)) from table works OK.

Cheers,
Ed

 __________________________________________________________________
 Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
 Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
 University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Chris Beaven wrote:

> I just tried a DTML in 2.6.1 and it looked like everything was working
> as it should:
>
> <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3)">
> <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3.0)">
> <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
>
> Returned:
>
> 0
> 3
> 3.0
>
> Ed Crewe wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Rather than do uneccesary work can I just enquire about
> >whether recent numeric handling changes in Zope 2.6.1 are intentional or
> >might they be reversed?
> >
> >Zope 2.6.1 has changed the default dtml number display format from
> >integer to one decimal place floating point.
> >This breaks any sites that use dtml integer display.
> >
> >Was this a deliberate change? If so what is the recommended solution for
> >replacing dtml such as <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> >Should all dtml integer rendering be replaced with
> >
> ><dtml-if "_.has_key('link_id')"><dtml-var link_id
> >fmt="%i"><dtml-else>0</dtml-if>
> >
> >or is there an economical way of displaying an integer in dtml?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ed Crewe
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
> > Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
> > University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
> > 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> >http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> >**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> >(Related lists -
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>




From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar  4 09:41:46 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:41:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to select pictures from another folder?
In-Reply-To: <3E64727E.50701@semafor.ch>
References: <3E64727E.50701@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <10056560.1046774505@[0.0.0.2]>


--On Dienstag, 4. M=E4rz 2003 10:31 +0100 Sorin Marti <mas@semafor.ch> =
wrote:

> I've got a dtml-method index. There I want to call a picture, I do it
> like this:
>
> <dtml-var picture>
>
> That works fine...
>
> But now I want to get a picture which is in another folder.
>
> <dtml-var Images.picture>
>
> and
>
> <dtml-var Images/picture>
>
> don't work...
>
> how to do that?

<dtml-var "Images['picture']">


-aj


From Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk  Tue Mar  4 09:54:34 2003
From: Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk (Ed Crewe)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:54:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 changed default number format
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303040900030.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303040949270.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

Hi Again,

Sorry I have just realised that the bug occurs after the sql execution
so trunc(2.34) may return 2 but it will come back as 2.0 via DCOracle2.

Anyone found a fix for this other than explicit type formatting via dtml
/ external python throughout a site?

Cheers,
Ed

 __________________________________________________________________
 Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
 Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
 University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ed Crewe wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Thanks for the response. Appologies this is my mistake. It is not a Zope
> version issue, it is a DCOracle issue.
>
> I have a site that is a front end to an Oracle database so nearly all
> data is passed via the DCOracle interface. I have just realised that
> DCOracle2 passes all integers as single decimal place floating points
> whilst DCOracle1 didn't have this bug.
>
> Thus select count(*) from an empty table returns 0.0!
>
> Similarily all the primary keys that are passed around between pages
> have .0 appended.
>
> I have realised the solution is to wrap every integer field in TRUNC()
> in all the sql methods to avoid this bug.
>
> Thus select trunc(count(*)) from table works OK.
>
> Cheers,
> Ed
>
>  __________________________________________________________________
>  Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
>  Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
>  University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
>  8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Chris Beaven wrote:
>
> > I just tried a DTML in 2.6.1 and it looked like everything was working
> > as it should:
> >
> > <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3)">
> > <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3.0)">
> > <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> >
> > Returned:
> >
> > 0
> > 3
> > 3.0
> >
> > Ed Crewe wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Rather than do uneccesary work can I just enquire about
> > >whether recent numeric handling changes in Zope 2.6.1 are intentional or
> > >might they be reversed?
> > >
> > >Zope 2.6.1 has changed the default dtml number display format from
> > >integer to one decimal place floating point.
> > >This breaks any sites that use dtml integer display.
> > >
> > >Was this a deliberate change? If so what is the recommended solution for
> > >replacing dtml such as <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > >Should all dtml integer rendering be replaced with
> > >
> > ><dtml-if "_.has_key('link_id')"><dtml-var link_id
> > >fmt="%i"><dtml-else>0</dtml-if>
> > >
> > >or is there an economical way of displaying an integer in dtml?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Ed Crewe
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________________
> > > Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
> > > Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
> > > University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
> > > 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > >http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > >**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > >(Related lists -
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>



From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <geir@elvix.com>  Tue Mar  4 10:13:12 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <geir@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:13:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to select pictures from another folder?
In-Reply-To: <3E64727E.50701@semafor.ch>
References: <3E64727E.50701@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <1808033812.20030304111312@elvix.com>

SM> I've got a dtml-method index. There I want to call a picture, I do it
SM> like this:
SM> <dtml-var picture>
SM> That works fine...
SM> But now I want to get a picture which is in another folder.

<dtml-with Images>
    <dtml-var picture>
</dtml-with>

or :
<dtml-var "Images.picture">

or :
<dtml-var "Images['picture']">

:)

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From alet@librelogiciel.com  Tue Mar  4 10:14:56 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:14:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
In-Reply-To: <200303040930.53435.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <20030304092206.GA1145@mail.librelogiciel.com> <200303040930.53435.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <20030304101456.GA1927@mail.librelogiciel.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 09:30:53AM +0000, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 March 2003 9:22 am, Jerome Alet wrote:
> 
> Zope uses (by default) four publishing threads. That means you will get four 
> copies of your objects in memory at any one time (or 8, if you have 2 zeo 
> clients). You also have the possibility of ZODB choosing to deactivate your 
> object, so all attributes are lost from all 4 of those objects.
> 
> 'hardware plug&play' makes me think this is this what you want... Perhaps 
> storing this special object in a module-level global would be better?

but I must be sure that only one thread deals with the hardware at
a time.

> >   myZopePersistentClassInstance.complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
> >
> > but this will probably, if it works, bloat by ZODB.
> >
> > is there a way to do this without suffering from severe bloat ?
> 
> myZopePersistentClassInstance._v_complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
> 
> will exclude that attribute from ZODB processing.

This is perfect ! But now how can I be use that no other thread
access the hardware at the same time ? (if possible a single
device open at Zope start or on-demand would be fine)

I actually use a CGI script for this, but I wondered if using
Zope instead wouldn't make it more "reactive".

Thanks in advance.

Jerome Alet


From lsh@wo.cz  Tue Mar  4 13:15:07 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:15:07 -0000
Subject: [Zope] STX - how to add new function
Message-ID: <E18qBKi-0003px-00@mail.python.org>

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for that starting point.

But I have no success with any of 3 files (it is need to be modified
ClassicStructuredText.py, DocumentClass.py, HTMLClass.py)

Does somebody have some modified version of STX sources or some how-to?

Many thanks,

J. Lukesh


----------
Odesílatel: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>
Checkout lib/python/StructuredText/DocumentClass.py. But I recommend to
keep your fingers from the code unless you really know what you are doing.



From =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <geir@elvix.com>  Tue Mar  4 12:25:59 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <geir@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:25:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mounted temporary folder and ZEO ?
Message-ID: <19516000868.20030304132559@elvix.com>

Hello Zopistas,

I am using "Mounted Temporary Folder" in a chat product i am building,
and it suddenly struck me that it might not behave transparently in a
ZEO-cluster.. Is there any reason for me to worry ? - does it act just
like a normal zope folder when it comes to ZEO-clustering?

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From dieter.fischer@grid-it.ch  Tue Mar  4 12:47:10 2003
From: dieter.fischer@grid-it.ch (Dieter Fischer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:47:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 changed default number format
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303040949270.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <000101c2e24c$2c2fd7c0$0a00a8c0@dfw>

Hello

This has to do with your Oracle NLS settings. Be sure that you have correct
settings for all users involved, e.g. zope, apache. Check also your zope
start and stop scripts. The important NLS variables are:

export NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS=".,";
export NLS_LANG=GERMAN_SWITZERLAND.WE8ISO8859P1

Off course your have to set them to your needs.

Regards

Dieter



From sk@medien.fh-wiesbaden.de  Tue Mar  4 12:47:02 2003
From: sk@medien.fh-wiesbaden.de (Stefan Kanitz)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:47:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] TTW Product
Message-ID: <002901c2e24c$278fc2c0$786848c3@p4gb1>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C2E254.8947F5C0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,
i recently tried the ttw product from COM.lounge.

It's really nice, but when i add a filetype-field in the Formulator page =
and i try it in Plone i get the error message "unpickleable Object".
Is this a bug or have i missed an option?

Thanks!


Stefan Kanitz
Wiesbaden University Of Applied Sciences
Dept. Of Media Management

------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C2E254.8947F5C0
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i recently tried the ttw product from=20
COM.lounge.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's really nice, but when i add a =
filetype-field=20
in the Formulator page and i try it in Plone i get the error message=20
"unpickleable Object".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this a bug or have i missed an=20
option?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar  4 13:10:05 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:10:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] TTW Product
In-Reply-To: <002901c2e24c$278fc2c0$786848c3@p4gb1>
References: <002901c2e24c$278fc2c0$786848c3@p4gb1>
Message-ID: <22556554.1046787005@[0.0.0.2]>

I suggest to contact the author Christian Scholz directly.

-aj

--On Dienstag, 4. M=E4rz 2003 13:47 +0100 Stefan Kanitz=20
<sk@medien.fh-wiesbaden.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
> i recently tried the ttw product from COM.lounge.
>
> It's really nice, but when i add a filetype-field in the Formulator page
> and i try it in Plone i get the error message "unpickleable Object". Is
> this a bug or have i missed an option?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Stefan Kanitz
> Wiesbaden University Of Applied Sciences
> Dept. Of Media Management




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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Mar  4 13:57:40 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:57:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD4B5@PROSERV>

Hi,

After a couple of Google searches, I cannot find the answer to this
question, What processors are support or have worked with Zope? I am in the
process of creating some zope services for some customers. In order to keep
cost down but at the same time avoid any compatibility issues, I am asking
the list this question. Thanks.


Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Tue Mar  4 14:10:07 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:10:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD4B5@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040603130.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, McDonnell, Larry wrote:
>
> After a couple of Google searches, I cannot find the answer to this
> question, What processors are support or have worked with Zope? I am in the
> process of creating some zope services for some customers. In order to keep
> cost down but at the same time avoid any compatibility issues, I am asking
> the list this question. Thanks.
> 

Can you clarify your question?  What do you mean by "processors"?  Zope
requires Python (duh..) and C/C++ for extensions and an operating system 
that supports sockets with the features required by Zserver.  Most folks
use Squid or Apache in front of Zope which adds additional constraints.




From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Mar  4 14:12:55 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:12:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD4CF@PROSERV>

Hi,

Sorry microprocessors (Intel, AMD, etc)

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Allison [mailto:allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:10 AM
To: McDonnell, Larry
Cc: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope


On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, McDonnell, Larry wrote:
>
> After a couple of Google searches, I cannot find the answer to this
> question, What processors are support or have worked with Zope? I am in
the
> process of creating some zope services for some customers. In order to
keep
> cost down but at the same time avoid any compatibility issues, I am asking
> the list this question. Thanks.
> 

Can you clarify your question?  What do you mean by "processors"?  Zope
requires Python (duh..) and C/C++ for extensions and an operating system 
that supports sockets with the features required by Zserver.  Most folks
use Squid or Apache in front of Zope which adds additional constraints.


From michael.healy@engitech.ie  Tue Mar  4 14:12:54 2003
From: michael.healy@engitech.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Miche=E1l_Healy?=)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:12:54 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Using win32com from external method
Message-ID: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELAEADDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>

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Hi,

I want to use win32com.client in a python script which I wish to access a=
s
an External Method.  When I run the script outside of Zope, it works fine.
Then I add a method declaration, and try to add the same script as an
extenal method and I get the following error:

Error Type: ImportError
Error Value: No module named pythoncom

The import statements look like this:

import pythoncom
import win32com.client

When I run outside Zope, I don=92t actually need to import pythoncom.


I downloaded COMObject-1.0.1-nonbin.tgz and took a look at what I may nee=
d
to do to get it working (figured that if I could get this to work, my
problem would be solved). The following is from the README.txt:

=93Probably the easiest way to get the win32 extensions working with Zope=
 is
to use your own Python, rather than the Python that comes with Zope.=94

If this is what I have to do, then how?  I=92ve looked for anything on th=
is,
but it=92s not the easiest thing to search for.  If I do this, will I sti=
ll be
able to access the things I have added in the \Zope\lib\python\Products,
such as TinyTable, Calendar and ZGDChart?

Thanks for any help,

Miche=E1l


Miche=E1l Healy
Engitech Ltd.
01 6204 516


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I could
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar  4 14:21:11 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:21:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD4B5@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD4B5@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <26821667.1046791271@[0.0.0.2]>

Zope is independent of the CPU. It runs on most Unixes, Windows
and Mac.

-aj

--On Dienstag, 4. M=E4rz 2003 08:57 -0500 "McDonnell, Larry"=20
<lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> After a couple of Google searches, I cannot find the answer to this
> question, What processors are support or have worked with Zope? I am in
> the process of creating some zope services for some customers. In order
> to keep cost down but at the same time avoid any compatibility issues, I
> am asking the list this question. Thanks.
>
>
> Larry McDonnell
>
> Proton Energy Systems
> 10 Technology Drive
> Wallingford, CT 06492
> (203) 678-2181
> Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
> www.protonenergy.com
>
>
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From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar  4 14:29:41 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 09:29:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Mounted temporary folder and ZEO ?
In-Reply-To: <19516000868.20030304132559@elvix.com>
References: <19516000868.20030304132559@elvix.com>
Message-ID: <1046788181.1417.2.camel@james>

No it does not.  You need to read the Zope Book 2.6 edition sessioning
chapter (e.g. " Instantiating a Transient Object Container") to find out
more info.

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 07:25, Geir B=E6kholt wrote:
> Hello Zopistas,
>=20
> I am using "Mounted Temporary Folder" in a chat product i am building,
> and it suddenly struck me that it might not behave transparently in a
> ZEO-cluster.. Is there any reason for me to worry ? - does it act just
> like a normal zope folder when it comes to ZEO-clustering?
>=20
> --
> Geir B=E6kholt
>=20
>=20
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From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Tue Mar  4 14:31:55 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:31:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD4CF@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040628050.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>


On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, McDonnell, Larry wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Sorry microprocessors (Intel, AMD, etc)
>

Zope, for the most part, has no machine dependencies.  As long as the
needed OS support, Python, and a suitable C/C++ compiler are there, you 
should have no problem.




From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 14:26:59 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:26:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] how to test to find image
In-Reply-To: <3E64451B.9020608@mustang1965.com>
References: <3E64451B.9020608@mustang1965.com>
Message-ID: <20030304142659.GA2554@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 01:18:03AM -0500, Steven Smith wrote:
> the use of the tag "here/myimage.gif". My understanding is the default 
> is to start at the top most directory and work its way through the site 
> until it finds the first occurance of myimage.gif. I would like to 
> reverse this behavior. I need it to start looking in the current 
> location and work upwards until it finds myimage.gif.

either your understanding is wrong, or you're using "upwards"
to mean the reverse of what it means to me.

A/ - myimage.gif
   - B/ 
   - C/ - myimage.gif
        - mypage

If mypage is a zpt that contains <img tal:replace="structure
here/myimage.gif" /> , then when you view A/C/mypage, the image
will be A/C/myimage.gif.

> 
> The reason is that under each of my first level subfolders I have placed 
> a myimage.gif file. Even if I'm maybe four folders down I want to 
> display that myimage.gif from the current branch (which my be three 
> folders up). However if the normal logic of 'here' works it will find 
> the wrong myimage.gif.

have you actually tried it? :)

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Mar  4 14:39:59 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:39:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD50D@PROSERV>

Thanks, this is what I thought but its better to throw out the question if
you are unsure.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Dennis Allison
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:32 AM
To: McDonnell, Larry
Cc: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope




On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, McDonnell, Larry wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Sorry microprocessors (Intel, AMD, etc)
>

Zope, for the most part, has no machine dependencies.  As long as the
needed OS support, Python, and a suitable C/C++ compiler are there, you 
should have no problem.



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From Francois@iecholden.com  Tue Mar  4 14:52:38 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:52:38 -0500
Subject: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Linux...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC6@exchange.iecholden.com>

Hi,

I have found the document to install PIL on zope at
http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope 

Followed instructions, worked fine. Did copy file _imaging.so and the PIL
directory to my zope/lib/python.

When starting zope I get 

2003-03-04T09:51:31 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import Products.ZPhotoSlides
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /home/zope-2.6.0/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 541, in
import_product
  File /home/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPhotoSlides/__init__.py, line 13, in
?
  File /home/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPhotoSlides/ZPhotoSlides.py, line 36,
in ?
    (Object: package_home)
  File
/home/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPhotoSlides/photo_edition/image_modif.py,
line 9, in ?
    (Object: os)
  File /home/zope/lib/python/PIL/ImageFont.py, line 80, in ?
  File /home/zope/lib/python/PIL/ImageFont.py, line 91, in FreeTypeFont
  File /home/zope/lib/python/PIL/Image.py, line 37, in __getattr__

ImportError: The _imaging C module is not installed 


It must be something simple, can't put the finger on it...

Thanks in advance,

Francois



From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Tue Mar  4 14:56:35 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:56:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Extending Zope system code without editing
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040636250.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

>From time to time I want to do things to the Zope system code, for
example, add a new method or override a method in a pre-existing class. Is
there a good way to do this within the Zope system structure.  I'd like to
keep my changes isolated and use the inheritance and namespace mechanisms
of Python rather than hard edits.





From aaltepet@bethel.edu  Tue Mar  4 15:05:33 2003
From: aaltepet@bethel.edu (Andrew Altepeter)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 09:05:33 -0600
Subject: [Zope] custom authentication
Message-ID: <1046790333.18949.80.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>

Hi all!

I am working on integrating zope into the single sign-on auth. server we
have.  To do so, I  started with the cookie_validate method in
exUserFolder, modified it to suit, and placed it in my custom userFolder
class.  

Ok, so it is working great if you to a page that requires
authentication.  However, I have noticed a few quiry happenings here,
and maybe you guys can help me out.

Sometimes, if I authenticate through the sso, and try access an object
my user object doesn't have access do, I am sent a 401 Unauthorized with
a Basic login window.  This is not what I want!

If the user is logged in, but doesn't have access, I want to return a
'no access' page, and if the user is not logged not, then I want to
redirect to the sso.

How can I do this?  Do I need to 'hack' the HTTPResponse code (methods
unauthorized, _unauthorized, and possibly exception to do this)?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Andy



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 15:28:20 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:28:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Extending Zope system code without editing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040636250.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040636250.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20030304152820.GC2554@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 06:56:35AM -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
> >From time to time I want to do things to the Zope system code, for
> example, add a new method or override a method in a pre-existing class. Is
> there a good way to do this within the Zope system structure.  I'd like to
> keep my changes isolated and use the inheritance and namespace mechanisms
> of Python rather than hard edits.

search zope.org for "Monkey patch"

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar  4 15:58:11 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:58:11 -0800
Subject: [Zope] 3rd party eloctronic payment solutions
In-Reply-To: <BA898BA0.492%marc@sharedbase.com>
References: <BA898BA0.492%marc@sharedbase.com>
Message-ID: <3E64CD13.1020108@neurobs.com>

Thanks all. Unfortunately I specifically need credit card transaction=20
handlers, since that is the nature of our customer base. I will report=20
my experiences regarding the vendor I choose to the list in the hopes=20
that it might be useful to someone.

AM

Marc Burgauer wrote:

>If you want to go down the easy route, use PayPal. They have two options=
 for
>either single purchase items or a shopping cart. You add some HTML-form =
code
>to your catalogue that gets submitted to the PayPal site.
>
>PayPal takes care of all the payment details (SSL, card verification, et=
c.).
>It took me 3 hours from reading their documentation to completion to add=
 a
>"Buy now" option to a catalogue built in Zope.
>
>To activate an account with PayPal, you need to give them your (or your
>customers) credit card details. They will take out a small payment (in m=
y
>case it was =A31.95) and when you get your next statement, there's an ID=
 with
>that payment that you need to submit at the PayPal site to activate your
>account.
>I accessed my credit card statement on-line and got the ID 2 days after =
I
>submitted my details.
>
>They take a small percentage off each transaction. No setup fees.
>
>Of course, this is not a big-scale solution! ;-) But you didn't say you =
need
>big and it is REALLY easy!
>
>The customer I have implemented this for has sold goods worth approx.
>=A320'000 in its first pay-enabled month! (February 2003) So I don't thi=
nk
>people have a problem giving PayPal their credit card details.
>
>Cheers
>
>Marc
>
>
> =20
>
>>Does anybody have any experience with integrating third party electroni=
c
>>payment solutions with a zope site?
>>If yes which one would you recommend?
>>ANs how hard or easy is it to do it?
>>
>>Thanks
>>AM
>>   =20
>>
>
>
>
> =20
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 16:04:01 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:04:01 -0800
Subject: [Zope] how to test to find image
In-Reply-To: <3E64451B.9020608@mustang1965.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304075740.01d27e90@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 10:18 PM 3/3/2003, Steven Smith wrote:
>My understanding is the default is to start at the top most directory and 
>work its way through the site until it finds the first occurance of 
>myimage.gif. I would like to reverse this behavior. I need it to start 
>looking in the current location and work upwards until it finds myimage.gif.

Well... you're in luck, because the reverse of what you described is how it 
actually works.

This would be a great time to read up on Acquisition, which is a key part 
of how Zope resolves requests for images and other objects.

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/Acquisition.stx
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html#c37ac15c13
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/Acquisition.stx


HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 16:19:39 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:19:39 -0800
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
In-Reply-To: <20030304092206.GA1145@mail.librelogiciel.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304080452.01cf6770@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 01:22 AM 3/4/2003, Jerome Alet wrote:
>I would like to create a python Zope product which allows me
>to create persistent objects.
>
>but these objects have (as subobjects ?) complex attributes which
>are themselves instances of a non-Zope related class, and which
>should not be persistent (think hardware plug&play), because
>they are recreated every time a method is called on my instance.

Luckily for you, they won't be persisted unless you ask them to 
be.   That's far better than the normal case where you *want* them 
persisted but they aren't. :-)


>I think I could do (untested) :
>
>   myZopePersistentClassInstance.complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
>
>but this will probably, if it works, bloat by ZODB.

In this case, that isn't what you want.  Since you want the instances *not* 
to persist, don't use any of Zope's persistent subobjects.

Let's say you have an instance of your product A, which contains subobjects 
B and C.  You want A.B to persist but A.C to be "volatile" and revert to a 
particular value.  Here goes:

----------------

class my_product(various_base_classes):
    def __init__(self, **args):
       self.B = my_module.my_class()

    C = another_module.another_class()

    def first_method(self):
       self.B  = self.do_something()
       self._p_changed = 1

    def second_method(self):
       self.C = self.do_something_else()

----------------

The magic assignment self._p_changed=1 triggers the persistence machinery 
to update its copy of your instance, recording any changes that have been 
made to your subobjects.  The save happens at the end of the transaction 
and only needs to be called once per transaction... though more times 
aren't going to break anything.  After a reload or restart, the value of 
A.C will probably revert to the class value for C... though if you were to 
change both objects in one transaction, the new value of C will get 
persisted as an instance variable.

This is sort of a trivial example, but if you dig a bit deeper, you can 
exercise much finer-grained control over the whole thing.

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 16:24:25 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:24:25 -0800
Subject: [Zope] STX - how to add new function
In-Reply-To: <E18qBKi-0003px-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304082240.01d1b0b0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 05:15 AM 3/4/2003, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
>But I have no success with any of 3 files (it is need to be modified
>ClassicStructuredText.py, DocumentClass.py, HTMLClass.py)

Well... what kind of non-success did you encounter?  I doubt there's a 
how-to for modifying these files in exactly the way you want to, but if you 
put up what you're trying and what's going wrong, you can probably get some 
help.

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 16:37:08 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:37:08 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Extending Zope system code without editing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040636250.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.
 EDU>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304082726.01d3c9b0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 06:56 AM 3/4/2003, Dennis Allison wrote:
> >From time to time I want to do things to the Zope system code, for
>example, add a new method or override a method in a pre-existing class. Is
>there a good way to do this within the Zope system structure.  I'd like to
>keep my changes isolated and use the inheritance and namespace mechanisms
>of Python rather than hard edits.

Inheritance is probably your answer here.

You can either subclass an existing object or mix your code into an 
existing object's definition.

Say you want to add a method to a Folder.

One way is to make a basic product called my_folder, mix in Folder as a 
base class and then start overriding and extending.  Then, in the ZMI 
you'll have the option of whether to use a standard Zope folder or one of 
your custom Folders.

On the other hand, you could create a Python module called 
my_folder_changes, create a simple class called my_folder and use it to 
define the behaviors you want to see.  Then add your class to the *front* 
of the list of base classes inherited by Folder.  This won't override 
anything actually defined in Folder's class definition... you'll need to 
comment those out to override them with this technique.

Is that what you're looking for?

HTH,

Dylan



From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Tue Mar  4 16:50:39 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:50:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Extending Zope system code without editing
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304082726.01d3c9b0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040841030.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

Not quite...  How do I modify a class defined in lib/python/StructuredText
or lib/python/ZPublisher or the like with the minimum of fuss and without 
patching the actual distributed Zope system code...


On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:

> At 06:56 AM 3/4/2003, Dennis Allison wrote:
> > >From time to time I want to do things to the Zope system code, for
> >example, add a new method or override a method in a pre-existing class. Is
> >there a good way to do this within the Zope system structure.  I'd like to
> >keep my changes isolated and use the inheritance and namespace mechanisms
> >of Python rather than hard edits.
> 
> Inheritance is probably your answer here.
> 
> You can either subclass an existing object or mix your code into an 
> existing object's definition.
> 
> Say you want to add a method to a Folder.
> 
> One way is to make a basic product called my_folder, mix in Folder as a 
> base class and then start overriding and extending.  Then, in the ZMI 
> you'll have the option of whether to use a standard Zope folder or one of 
> your custom Folders.
> 
> On the other hand, you could create a Python module called 
> my_folder_changes, create a simple class called my_folder and use it to 
> define the behaviors you want to see.  Then add your class to the *front* 
> of the list of base classes inherited by Folder.  This won't override 
> anything actually defined in Folder's class definition... you'll need to 
> comment those out to override them with this technique.
> 
> Is that what you're looking for?
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dylan
> 



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Tue Mar  4 17:14:35 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:14:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Customize the ZMI
Message-ID: <F82FKdVdXuYFyKqACjO00020300@hotmail.com>

What files can be edited to change the ZMI. Does this have to be done from 
the file system or can it be done from within the ZMI itself.

I want to be able to change some of the styling, logo, label placement, etc.

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From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Tue Mar  4 17:29:02 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 09:29:02 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
Message-ID: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Greetings All,

Some stats on my (stale, and soon to be updated) setup:

     Zope Version
     (Zope 2.4.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.0, linux2)
     Python Version
     2.1 (#2, Jun 22 2001, 10:20:42) [GCC 2.7.2.3]
     System Platform
     linux2 

I have a couple of objectives:

        1. I want to restrict file access by user.

        2. I want to serve objects from zope to accomplish objective
           #1 above, but I want the objects to be in the filesystem.

           I want to be able to say, "The contents of directory X are
           available only to user Y."

I looked through the list of products in the "External Access"
category and there were a couple of good candidates.  The localfs
listing was hard to find but it did turn up in a faq somewhere.

     http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/ExternalFile
     http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile
     http://sourceforge.net/projects/localfs

Questions:

     Can anyone recommend one of these products over the other?
     Will they let me do what I describe?
     Are there products which are a better fit?
     Is there an easier/better way?

My apologies if this has been answered in the mailing list recently.
An archives search did not turn up anything.

Thanks in advance,
-- 
Ricardo Anguiano
http://www.codesourcery.com


From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar  4 17:32:53 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:32:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Customize the ZMI
In-Reply-To: <F82FKdVdXuYFyKqACjO00020300@hotmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5818837.1046802773@[192.168.0.2]>

checkout the .dtml files of the zope distribution. Are you really sure
that you want to customize the ZMI??? Better take a look at CMF/Plone
when you need customized templates for content management purposes.

-aj

--On Dienstag, 4. M=E4rz 2003 17:14 +0000 Michael Havard =
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wrote:

> What files can be edited to change the ZMI. Does this have to be done
> from the file system or can it be done from within the ZMI itself.
>
> I want to be able to change some of the styling, logo, label placement,
> etc.
>
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 18:01:55 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:01:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Extending Zope system code without editing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040841030.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304082726.01d3c9b0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040841030.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <20030304180155.GE2554@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:50:39AM -0800, Dennis Allison wrote:
> Not quite...  How do I modify a class defined in lib/python/StructuredText
> or lib/python/ZPublisher or the like with the minimum of fuss and without 
> patching the actual distributed Zope system code...

i already told you :)

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 18:12:41 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:12:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Extending Zope system code without editing
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303040841030.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.
 EDU>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304082726.01d3c9b0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304095119.01d04a48@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 08:50 AM 3/4/2003, Dennis Allison wrote:
>Not quite...  How do I modify a class defined in lib/python/StructuredText
>or lib/python/ZPublisher or the like with the minimum of fuss and without
>patching the actual distributed Zope system code...

If you're looking for a way to change the behavior of an object without 
making *any* changes to the source code, I'm pretty sure that subclassing 
is all that's available.  It is possible to define objects such that they 
allow certain methods to be overridden by ZMI objects, but that is special 
behavior that must be explicitly provided in the product.

For my money, inheritance is about as low-impact a mechanism as one can 
hope to find.  Unless I'm not understanding what you're trying to do or 
what issues this approach raises... in which case, let me know.

If the major stopping point here is concern about hosing Zope, there are 
several things you can do to mitigate the potential harm:

1. Work on a test installation
2. Use comments liberally
3. Use a tool like rcs or cvs to provide version control
4. Refine your technique on a trivial product like Boring

There's no better way to learn how Zope really works than to rip into the 
source.  My advice would be to go for it.

HTH,

Dylan



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Tue Mar  4 18:29:54 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:29:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D538@desi2>

x86 hardware is usually fastest, compared to other platfoms.  YMMV.  

Best test is likely to run Python's pystone tests on whatever hardware you
might be evaluating; any score on new hardware over 20,000 is good.  Athlon,
p4, and Xeon are likely your best bet.

run like this (in Debian GNU/Linux, for example):
/usr/bin/python2.1 /usr/lib/python/test/pystone.py

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: McDonnell, Larry [mailto:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 6:40 AM
To: Dennis Allison; McDonnell, Larry
Cc: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope


Thanks, this is what I thought but its better to throw out the question if
you are unsure.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
Dennis Allison
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:32 AM
To: McDonnell, Larry
Cc: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [Zope] Supported Processor for Zope




On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, McDonnell, Larry wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Sorry microprocessors (Intel, AMD, etc)
>

Zope, for the most part, has no machine dependencies.  As long as the
needed OS support, Python, and a suitable C/C++ compiler are there, you 
should have no problem.



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From Dylan@DylanReinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 18:25:42 2003
From: Dylan@DylanReinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:25:42 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304101321.01d26790@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 09:29 AM 3/4/2003, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
>        1. I want to restrict file access by user.
>
>         2. I want to serve objects from zope to accomplish objective
>            #1 above, but I want the objects to be in the filesystem.

You can do that with Zope, but reading between the lines a bit, these sound 
like static files you're serving.  If so, I'd recommend putting Apache in 
front of Zope and letting Apache handle it with a RewriteRule like:

RewriteRule ^/files/(.*) /home/httpd/mysite/files/$1 [L]

It doesn't get much easier than that.  ;-)

Zope should (IMO) be used primarily for serving dynamic content.  It's 
fantastic at what is does well, but it just doesn't hold a candle to Apache 
for serving static content... nor should it.  They're two very different tasks.

>           I want to be able to say, "The contents of directory X are
>            available only to user Y."

This isn't a great idea, for the most part.  If you're looking for more 
than trivial security, I wouldn't volunteer information like that.

>http://www.codesourcery.com

Cool domain name. :-)

Dylan



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Tue Mar  4 18:31:38 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:31:38 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope Installation Problems
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D539@desi2>

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You might have better luck if you use a source install of Python 2.1.3, and
compile the source install of Zope 2.6.1 with the specific python2.1 binary
you installed from source (wherever you installed it).
 
Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Sheppard Norfleet [mailto:shepnorfleet@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:29 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Zope Installation Problems


I am using Rad Hat Linux 7.x.  which comes with python 2.2 not the problem.
I have Zope that has a python 2.1 one with it.  when I try to build
w_pcgi.py using the python that comes with zope, I get compile errors when
trying to build the exception modules, the last message has a message like
"I and PICKY raiseError"  
 
There are a ton of warning and a few errors sprinkled in a compiler output
(or at least it looks like that).   
 
Anyway I have been working at this installation for about a week, I have
tried a source install and binary install.  No matter which way I go zope
fails to build using the 2.1 python that comes with it.  
 
Has anyone else had these problems?  Trying to run Zope like this:
bin/python z2.py -p /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/zope.pcgi 
 
all I get in return is a new bash prompt wiht no warnings.  the log files
are empty or don't exist.  Please help!
 
BTW, don't mean to knock mailing lists but wouldnt forums be a lot easier
way to communicate?  Just a thought...


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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">


<META content="MSHTML 5.00.3504.2500" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=311142218-04032003>You 
might have better luck if you use a source install of Python 2.1.3, and compile 
the source install of Zope 2.6.1 with the specific python2.1 binary you 
installed from source (wherever you installed it).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=311142218-04032003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=311142218-04032003>Sean</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Sheppard Norfleet 
  [mailto:shepnorfleet@comcast.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 03, 2003 5:29 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> zope@zope.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Zope] Zope Installation 
  Problems<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am using Rad Hat Linux 7.x.&nbsp; which comes 
  with python 2.2 not the problem.&nbsp; I have Zope that has a python 2.1 one 
  with it.&nbsp; when I try to build w_pcgi.py using the python that comes with 
  zope, I get compile errors when trying to build the exception modules, the 
  last message has a message like "I and PICKY raiseError"&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are a ton of warning and a few errors 
  sprinkled in a compiler output (or at least it looks like that).&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway I have been working at this installation 
  for about a week, I have tried a source install and binary install.&nbsp; No 
  matter which way I go zope fails to build using the 2.1 python that comes with 
  it.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone else had these problems?&nbsp; Trying 
  to run Zope like this:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>bin/python z2.py -p 
  /usr/local/apache/cgi-bin/zope.pcgi </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>all I get in return is a new bash prompt wiht no 
  warnings.&nbsp; the log files are empty or don't exist.&nbsp; Please 
  help!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BTW, don't mean to knock mailing lists but 
  wouldnt forums be a lot easier way to communicate?&nbsp; Just a 
  thought...</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From bkc@murkworks.com  Tue Mar  4 18:43:59 2003
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:43:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] 3rd party eloctronic payment solutions
In-Reply-To: <3E64CD13.1020108@neurobs.com>
References: <BA898BA0.492%marc@sharedbase.com>
Message-ID: <3E64AA85.6090.8F7DD8E4@localhost>

On 4 Mar 2003 at 7:58, AM wrote:

> Thanks all. Unfortunately I specifically need credit card transaction
> handlers, since that is the nature of our customer base. I will report my
> experiences regarding the vendor I choose to the list in the hopes that it
> might be useful to someone.
> 

http://www.adirondackcraft.com (Currently Zope 2.6, started on 1. something)

is using the Cybercash Zope product with Verisign as the processor.

Works great!


-- 
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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Tue Mar  4 18:50:34 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:50:34 -0800
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D53A@desi2>

Thinking aloud: ...so myNonZopeClass instances need to be a singleton-like
thing, with some sort of mutex-ish of lock to prevent other instances from
being constructed?  I wonder if there is a way to throw an exception on
construction of a myNonZopeClass instance if another Zope thread has an
instance.  Perhaps you could keep an external boolean lock variable in a
module-level global accessible to all threads, but it might just be easier
to follow Toby's suggestion and just see if you can keep your myNonZopeClass
instance object in a module-level global, and just keep a reference to it in
a _v_ attribute?  I've never tried anything like this, might something like
this possibly work?

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerome Alet [mailto:alet@librelogiciel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:15 AM
To: Toby Dickenson
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes


On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 09:30:53AM +0000, Toby Dickenson wrote:
> On Tuesday 04 March 2003 9:22 am, Jerome Alet wrote:
> 
> Zope uses (by default) four publishing threads. That means you will get
four 
> copies of your objects in memory at any one time (or 8, if you have 2 zeo 
> clients). You also have the possibility of ZODB choosing to deactivate
your 
> object, so all attributes are lost from all 4 of those objects.
> 
> 'hardware plug&play' makes me think this is this what you want... Perhaps 
> storing this special object in a module-level global would be better?

but I must be sure that only one thread deals with the hardware at
a time.

> >   myZopePersistentClassInstance.complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
> >
> > but this will probably, if it works, bloat by ZODB.
> >
> > is there a way to do this without suffering from severe bloat ?
> 
> myZopePersistentClassInstance._v_complexAttr = myNonZopeClass()
> 
> will exclude that attribute from ZODB processing.

This is perfect ! But now how can I be use that no other thread
access the hardware at the same time ? (if possible a single
device open at Zope start or on-demand would be fine)

I actually use a CGI script for this, but I wondered if using
Zope instead wouldn't make it more "reactive".

Thanks in advance.

Jerome Alet

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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 18:18:38 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:18:38 -0500
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <20030304181838.GF2554@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 09:29:02AM -0800, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
>      http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/ExternalFile
>      http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile
>      http://sourceforge.net/projects/localfs
> 
> Questions:
> 
>      Can anyone recommend one of these products over the other?

they serve different needs...
localfs will map a whole directory and all its subdirectories,
ExtFile and ExternalFile will only do 1 file per instance.

>      Will they let me do what I describe?

if the users are zope users, sure - just an a LocalFS for each user
and restrict access to the owner. 

on the filesystem, everything must be readable by the user who runs 
the Zope process. 

-- 

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http://www.slinkp.com



From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Tue Mar  4 18:37:51 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 10:37:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304101321.01d26790@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304101321.01d26790@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <86bs0rvuyo.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Dylan Reinhardt <Dylan@DylanReinhardt.com> writes:

> At 09:29 AM 3/4/2003, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
> >        1. I want to restrict file access by user.
> >
> >         2. I want to serve objects from zope to accomplish objective
> >            #1 above, but I want the objects to be in the filesystem.
> 
> You can do that with Zope, but reading between the lines a bit,
> these sound like static files you're serving.

The files will be updated nightly.  The distinction between static
files which are updated often and dynamic content has never been clear
to me.  The files are large so I don't want to stick them into the
zope db.

> If so, I'd recommend putting Apache in front of Zope and letting
> Apache handle it with a RewriteRule like:
> 
> RewriteRule ^/files/(.*) /home/httpd/mysite/files/$1 [L]
> 
> It doesn't get much easier than that.  ;-)

True, but this option was rejected because there was no
authentication.  We could do a .htaccess thing, but we are already
using zope and it already does users nicely.

> Zope should (IMO) be used primarily for serving dynamic content.
> It's fantastic at what is does well, but it just doesn't hold a
> candle to Apache for serving static content... nor should it.
> They're two very different tasks.
> 
> >           I want to be able to say, "The contents of directory X are
> >            available only to user Y."
> 
> This isn't a great idea, for the most part.  If you're looking for
> more than trivial security, I wouldn't volunteer information like
> that.

Hmm.  I don't understand. Zope provides lots of control over users,
roles and content.  Are you saying I should ignore that framework and
use something else?

Zope's access control, users, passwords and SSL meet our needs.  The
only other thing I can think to do in this case is to issue SSL client
certs to verify the user's identity.  Users already access the content
via https only and have no local access to the machine.

> >http://www.codesourcery.com
> 
> Cool domain name. :-)

Thanks, I can't take credit for that one. :)

[PS: apache+ssl+zope+localfs seems to be doing the job nicely. It took
me a few minutes this morning.]

-- 
Ricardo Anguiano
http://www.codesourcery.com


From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Tue Mar  4 18:56:51 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 10:56:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <20030304181838.GF2554@slinkp.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
 <20030304181838.GF2554@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <861y1nvu30.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Paul Winkler <pw_lists@slinkp.com> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 09:29:02AM -0800, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
> >      http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/ExternalFile
> >      http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile
> >      http://sourceforge.net/projects/localfs
> > 
> > Questions:
> > 
> >      Can anyone recommend one of these products over the other?
> 
> they serve different needs...
> localfs will map a whole directory and all its subdirectories,
> ExtFile and ExternalFile will only do 1 file per instance.

Ah, good to know.

> 
> >      Will they let me do what I describe?
> 
> if the users are zope users, sure - just an a LocalFS for each user
> and restrict access to the owner.

Yes, the users are zope users.  I did exactly what you describe and it
works great.

> on the filesystem, everything must be readable by the user who runs
> the Zope process.

Definitely.

Thanks,
-- 
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http://www.codesourcery.com


From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Tue Mar  4 18:39:52 2003
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (catonano)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:39:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] mime types
Message-ID: <AFEBD467-4E70-11D7-A19E-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it>

Hello Zopers,

I  have some .swf files got into my Zope db via ftp and their mime type 
has been set by Zope to "application/octet-stream" while it should be 
"application/x-shockwave-flash"

I reset them manually bur how can I edit the associations between the 
file name extensions and the Zope mime types so that Zope automagically 
sets the correct value?

Thanks anyone will help me

Catonano



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 19:05:25 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:05:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D53A@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D53A@desi2>
Message-ID: <20030304190525.GA3495@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:50:34AM -0800, sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Thinking aloud: ...so myNonZopeClass instances need to be a singleton-like
> thing, with some sort of mutex-ish of lock to prevent other instances from
> being constructed?

singletons seem to be more easily handled by other pythonic
approaches, as you go on to say ...  

> I wonder if there is a way to throw an exception on
> construction of a myNonZopeClass instance if another Zope thread has an
> instance.  Perhaps you could keep an external boolean lock variable in a
> module-level global accessible to all threads, but it might just be easier
> to follow Toby's suggestion and just see if you can keep your myNonZopeClass
> instance object in a module-level global, and just keep a reference to it in
> a _v_ attribute?  I've never tried anything like this, might something like
> this possibly work?

I'd think so.

Another approach to consider is "Borg" aka "Monostate" aka "all your state are
belong to us".
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/66531

yet another approach is to use a class instead of a module,
e.g. http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/113657

None of these address the issues of access control, as Alex Martelli's
comments on Borg make clear:

""" threading, Alex Martelli, 2001/10/15
Threading issues really have little to do with Highlander vs Borg (or
Singleton vs Monostate if you prefer boring names:-). In Python, it's
simplest to devote a thread to handling a bunch of resources that need
to be serialized (no matter whether they're wrapped into one or more
objects of whatever type), with a Queue of requests on which the
devoted-thread (Guardian thread) always sleeps working for requests. All
access by working threads to the guardian thread and the resources it
protects is by posting to the guardian queue a tuple (response-queue,
callable, args, kwds) followed by waiting on the response-queue. Why
people would want to conflate this important idiom with the equally
important and unrelated idiom of state sharing is a mystery to me, as
they work just as well together or separately. What's the contrary of
"divide and conquer" -- "conflate and suffer"?-)
"""

hmmm, i can't quite envision how you'd do this "guardian thread" business
in a Zope product, or if there's a better equivalent.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar  4 19:17:56 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:17:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] mime types
In-Reply-To: <AFEBD467-4E70-11D7-A19E-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it>
References: <AFEBD467-4E70-11D7-A19E-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <12121830.1046809076@[192.168.0.2]>

Checkout lib/python/OFS/content_types.py

--On Dienstag, 4. M=E4rz 2003 19:39 +0100 catonano =
<a.peluso@fulltrading.it>=20
wrote:

> Hello Zopers,
>
> I  have some .swf files got into my Zope db via ftp and their mime type
> has been set by Zope to "application/octet-stream" while it should be
> "application/x-shockwave-flash"
>
> I reset them manually bur how can I edit the associations between the
> file name extensions and the Zope mime types so that Zope automagically
> sets the correct value?
>
> Thanks anyone will help me
>
> Catonano
>
>
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 19:11:53 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:11:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <861y1nvu30.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com> <20030304181838.GF2554@slinkp.com> <861y1nvu30.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <20030304191153.GB3495@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:56:51AM -0800, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
> > if the users are zope users, sure - just an a LocalFS for each user
> > and restrict access to the owner.
> 
> Yes, the users are zope users.  I did exactly what you describe and it
> works great.

you might want to double-check your setup to be sure that tricks involving ../
do not let the user access files they should not.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Tue Mar  4 19:32:13 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 11:32:13 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <20030304191153.GB3495@slinkp.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
 <20030304181838.GF2554@slinkp.com>
 <861y1nvu30.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
 <20030304191153.GB3495@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <86smu3udvm.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Paul Winkler <pw_lists@slinkp.com> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:56:51AM -0800, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
> > > if the users are zope users, sure - just an a LocalFS for each user
> > > and restrict access to the owner.
> > 
> > Yes, the users are zope users.  I did exactly what you describe and it
> > works great.
> 
> you might want to double-check your setup to be sure that tricks
> involving ../ do not let the user access files they should not.

It doesn't appear that one user can dot-dot-slash their way into
another other user's directory.  Even if they guess the path, they are
asked for authentication again if they get it right.  User1 not being
defined in User2/acl_users, and restricting User2/content to owner
makes it hard for User1 to access User2's content.

Thanks for the reminder though,
-- 
Ricardo Anguiano
http://www.codesourcery.com


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 18:54:36 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:54:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups and CMF not working
In-Reply-To: <59403C6E.3DD3F8C0.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <59403C6E.3DD3F8C0.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <15972.63084.301817.696894@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

baiewola@netscape.net wrote at 2003-3-3 14:33 -0500:
 > I installed NuxUserGroups, but the product was broken. The traceback error said "No module named CMFCore.CatalogTool."
 > 
 > I presumed that I had to install CMF, so I did. After installation, CMFCore, CMFDefault, and CMFTopic appear in my products list unbroken, but I can't create a CMF Site object (it should be in the pulldown menu, right?). And NuxUserGroups is still broken.
 > 
 > The weird thing is that I now have the option of giving local roles to groups -- I just can't create the groups.
 > 
 > *     For CMF, is it mandatory that Zope be installed using /var/zope as my INSTANCE_HOME  and /usr/local/zope/ as my SOFTWARE_HOME?

No.

 > *     If that's the problem, what do I need to change about CMF to make it work with my own installation?

Have you activated Zope logging (--> doc/LOGGING.txt) and looked in
the log file. You may find valuable hints.


When you report problems, please remember to tell the precise
problem: Error Type, Error Value and Traceback.



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 18:56:57 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:56:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting metatype information
In-Reply-To: <20030304002316.2338.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030304002316.2338.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15972.63225.907599.584665@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fearless Froggie wrote at 2003-3-3 16:23 -0800:
 > If I have an address such as the following:
 > 
 > an_address = context.REQUEST['URL2']
 > 
 > How would I get the metatype of the object

You get the object with "getattr" and then its "meta_type" attribute.

"getattr" is an FAQ.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 19:21:18 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:21:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [Vote] PEP308 voting began
Message-ID: <15972.64686.377126.329892@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Attention: cross post

PEP308 is concerned with the introduction of a ternary conditional
operator (something like an "if cond: val_true else: val_false")
into Zope.

In my view, such an operator would make TALES expressions
easier because we could get rid of the "and/or" hack to
represent conditionals and we could forget about the "test"
function, which evaluates too eagerly.

Please have a look at PEP308 and consider voting.
Details in "comp.lang.python.announce".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 18:55:44 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:55:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] plone problem
In-Reply-To: <20030303160420.F6160@asu.edu>
References: <20030303160420.F6160@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <15972.63152.528975.444941@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David Bear wrote at 2003-3-3 16:04 -0700:
 > ...
 > Traceback (innermost last):
 > ...
 >   File /home/httpd/zoperoot/lib/python/Products/CMFPlone/Portal.py,
 > line 14, in ?
 > ImportError: No module named CMFCalendar.Extensions

Probably a missing "__init__.py" in the "Extensions" directory.
It can be empty.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 19:01:56 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:01:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Linux...
In-Reply-To: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC6@exchange.iecholden.com>
References: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC6@exchange.iecholden.com>
Message-ID: <15972.63524.732991.8341@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Meehan, Francois wrote at 2003-3-4 09:52 -0500:
 > I have found the document to install PIL on zope at
 > http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope 
 > ....
 > ImportError: The _imaging C module is not installed 

Almost surely, importing "_imaging" results in an error.

  Try it in an interactive interpreter. You should get
  a much better error indication.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 18:58:52 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:58:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Finding owner of an object
In-Reply-To: <15972.13827.263783.814537@magrathea.basistech.com>
References: <15972.13827.263783.814537@magrathea.basistech.com>
Message-ID: <15972.63340.590911.657332@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Tom Emerson wrote at 2003-3-4 00:13 -0500:
 > I have a folder of files (think the FileLibrary example), where files
 > may be owned by different people. In a ZPT I would like to limit the
 > set of files that are displayed to those owned by the current user. I
 > can't find a way to get the owner of a given object: what am I
 > missing?
 > 
 > For example, I use
 > 
 > container.Submissions.objectValues('File')
 > 
 > to get the set of files in the Submissions folder. Is there a method I
 > can call on each File object to get its owner?

You can do it in the management interface (ZMI), right?

  Then, there is a method and you can find it out yourself
  by looking at the ZMI source.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar  4 19:03:25 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:03:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] custom authentication
In-Reply-To: <1046790333.18949.80.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>
References: <1046790333.18949.80.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>
Message-ID: <15972.63613.180789.274699@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Andrew Altepeter wrote at 2003-3-4 09:05 -0600:
 > I am working on integrating zope into the single sign-on auth. server we
 > have.  To do so, I  started with the cookie_validate method in
 > exUserFolder, modified it to suit, and placed it in my custom userFolder
 > class.  
 > 
 > Ok, so it is working great if you to a page that requires
 > authentication.  However, I have noticed a few quiry happenings here,
 > and maybe you guys can help me out.
 > 
 > Sometimes, if I authenticate through the sso, and try access an object
 > my user object doesn't have access do, I am sent a 401 Unauthorized with
 > a Basic login window.  This is not what I want!
 > 
 > If the user is logged in, but doesn't have access, I want to return a
 > 'no access' page, and if the user is not logged not, then I want to
 > redirect to the sso.

UserFolder's usually ensure this by overriding the
"unauthorized" method of the RESPONSE object.

Have a look at CookieCrumber (as an example).


Dieter


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 19:42:36 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:42:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <86bs0rvuyo.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304101321.01d26790@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030304101321.01d26790@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304111354.01d01d88@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 10:37 AM 3/4/2003, Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
>The files will be updated nightly.  The distinction between static
>files which are updated often and dynamic content has never been clear
>to me.  The files are large so I don't want to stick them into the
>zope db.

To some degree that's an academic question.

My $.02 would be that any content that remains static between updates is 
static, regardless of how often that process occurs.

Content should be regarded as dynamic when it changes or works differently 
depending on state or environment.

> > If so, I'd recommend putting Apache in front of Zope and letting
> > Apache handle it with a RewriteRule like:
> >
> > RewriteRule ^/files/(.*) /home/httpd/mysite/files/$1 [L]
> >
> > It doesn't get much easier than that.  ;-)
>
>True, but this option was rejected because there was no
>authentication. We could do a .htaccess thing, but we are already
>using zope and it already does users nicely.

True enough.  It's possible to get Apache to do authorization and pass 
through authentication to Zope, but I've not tried it.

One old reference that may help is here:

http://lugwash.washtenaw.cc.mi.us/linux-users/199907/0078.html

Obviously, you're probably not using Zope.cgi, but I expect that this can 
be adapted to VHM pretty easily.

But this might not be the *easiest* solution for one-stop TTW management... 
localfs is probably that solution


> > >           I want to be able to say, "The contents of directory X are
> > >            available only to user Y."
> >
> > This isn't a great idea, for the most part.  If you're looking for
> > more than trivial security, I wouldn't volunteer information like
> > that.
>
>Hmm.  I don't understand. Zope provides lots of control over users,
>roles and content.  Are you saying I should ignore that framework and
>use something else?

I'm suggesting that giving unauthorized people clues how to crack your 
security is a mistake in any environment... Zope included.

But maybe I'm just paranoid.  :-)

Dylan



From baiewola@netscape.net  Tue Mar  4 19:45:24 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:45:24 -0500
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
Message-ID: <3D226C50.1C7F67FA.00923364@netscape.net>

I can personally recommend LocalFS.

We do exactly what you want to do, using a combination of LocalFS and local roles. All the LocalFS objects are in one folder. The index to that folder checks if a user has the appropriate local role, and only the appropriate objects are displayed for each individual.

If you decide to implement this plan, we're happy to give you a copy of our index and the necessary python scripts. We have hundreds of LocalFS objects, so we spent some time constructing the index so the items appear in tabular format.


Ricardo Anguiano <anguiano@codesourcery.com> wrote:

>
>Greetings All,
>
>Some stats on my (stale, and soon to be updated) setup:
>
>     Zope Version
>     (Zope 2.4.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python 2.1.0, linux2)
>     Python Version
>     2.1 (#2, Jun 22 2001, 10:20:42) [GCC 2.7.2.3]
>     System Platform
>     linux2 
>
>I have a couple of objectives:
>
>        1. I want to restrict file access by user.
>
>        2. I want to serve objects from zope to accomplish objective
>           #1 above, but I want the objects to be in the filesystem.
>
>           I want to be able to say, "The contents of directory X are
>           available only to user Y."
>
>I looked through the list of products in the "External Access"
>category and there were a couple of good candidates.  The localfs
>listing was hard to find but it did turn up in a faq somewhere.
>
>     http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/ExternalFile
>     http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/localfs
>
>Questions:
>
>     Can anyone recommend one of these products over the other?
>     Will they let me do what I describe?
>     Are there products which are a better fit?
>     Is there an easier/better way?
>
>My apologies if this has been answered in the mailing list recently.
>An archives search did not turn up anything.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>-- 
>Ricardo Anguiano
>http://www.codesourcery.com
>
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From a.peluso@fulltrading.it  Tue Mar  4 19:50:54 2003
From: a.peluso@fulltrading.it (catonano)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 20:50:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope license
Message-ID: <9C7A0336-4E7A-11D7-A19E-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it>

Hello Zopers,

for the first time in my life  a business asked me for a dinamical web 
site that can start off a cd rom.

I gave them a demo made in Zope and now they ask me about the Zope 
license.

I read the Zope license and I can translate it in Italian for them but 
I wonder wether ther's something more about the business use of Zope.

Please help. This is SO important to me!
Thanks so much!!
Bye
Catonano



From baiewola@netscape.net  Tue Mar  4 19:57:52 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:57:52 -0500
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups and CMF not working
Message-ID: <6B3B0F8E.20CE9D60.00923364@netscape.net>

There's nothing at all in my logs about CMF, but here's what the log has to say abut NuxUserGroups:

------
2003-03-04T19:52:42 INFO(0) NuxUserGroups.BasicUserWithGroups Patching BasicUser
------
2003-03-04T19:52:42 INFO(0) NuxUserGroups.LocalRolesWithGroups Patching RoleManager
------
2003-03-04T19:52:42 ERROR(200) Zope Could not import Products.NuxUserGroups
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /zopedirectory/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 531, in import_product
  File /zopedirectory/lib/python/Products/NuxUserGroups/__init__.py, line 11, in ?
    (Object: addUserFolderWithGroups)
  File /zopedirectory/lib/python/Products/NuxUserGroups/CatalogToolWithGroups.py, line 17, in ?
    (Object: rolesForPermissionOn)
ImportError: No module named CMFCore.CatalogTool


I'm afraid this isn't very helpful to me. Does it give you any clues?



Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> wrote:

>baiewola@netscape.net wrote at 2003-3-3 14:33 -0500:
> > I installed NuxUserGroups, but the product was broken. The traceback error said "No module named CMFCore.CatalogTool."
> > 
> > I presumed that I had to install CMF, so I did. After installation, CMFCore, CMFDefault, and CMFTopic appear in my products list unbroken, but I can't create a CMF Site object (it should be in the pulldown menu, right?). And NuxUserGroups is still broken.
> > 
> > The weird thing is that I now have the option of giving local roles to groups -- I just can't create the groups.
> > 
> > *     For CMF, is it mandatory that Zope be installed using /var/zope as my INSTANCE_HOME  and /usr/local/zope/ as my SOFTWARE_HOME?
>
>No.
>
> > *     If that's the problem, what do I need to change about CMF to make it work with my own installation?
>
>Have you activated Zope logging (--> doc/LOGGING.txt) and looked in
>the log file. You may find valuable hints.
>
>
>When you report problems, please remember to tell the precise
>problem: Error Type, Error Value and Traceback.
>
>
>
>Dieter
>

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar  4 20:06:00 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:06:00 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope license
In-Reply-To: <9C7A0336-4E7A-11D7-A19E-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it>
References: <9C7A0336-4E7A-11D7-A19E-0003935B175E@fulltrading.it>
Message-ID: <3E650728.3000102@jcameroncooper.com>

> for the first time in my life  a business asked me for a dinamical web 
> site that can start off a cd rom.
>
> I gave them a demo made in Zope and now they ask me about the Zope 
> license.
>
> I read the Zope license and I can translate it in Italian for them but 
> I wonder wether ther's something more about the business use of Zope.


Not quite sure what you're asking, but Zope is in general free for 
distribution or modification by anybody for any purpose so long as you 
leave the copyright notice and disclaimer, note any modifications from 
the ZC source, and basically don't claim to be Zope Co.

It's actually one of the more readable licenses (shorter than the 
preamble to the GPL.)

http://www.zope.com/Legal/zpl_2

some history of the ZPL:
http://www.zope.org/Resources/License

          --jcc



From Francois@iecholden.com  Tue Mar  4 20:04:54 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:04:54 -0500
Subject: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Li
 nux...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC9@exchange.iecholden.com>

Indeed,

By running /home/zope/bin/python, import _imaging gives: ImportError:
/home/zope/lib/python2.1/_imaging.so: undefined symbol: PyType_IsSubtype

Since I have python 2.2 on my system, and did compiled PIL with that,
copying PIL in Zope/lib, the mix of python version might create the problem.


How can I compile PIL with the python version that comes with Zope?



Francois

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
> Sent: March 4, 2003 2:02 PM
> To: Meehan, Francois
> Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
> Subject: Re: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of 
> Zope 2.6.1 on
> Linux...
> 
> 
> Meehan, Francois wrote at 2003-3-4 09:52 -0500:
>  > I have found the document to install PIL on zope at
>  > http://www.zope.org/Members/regebro/PIL_zope 
>  > ....
>  > ImportError: The _imaging C module is not installed 
> 
> Almost surely, importing "_imaging" results in an error.
> 
>   Try it in an interactive interpreter. You should get
>   a much better error indication.
> 
> 
> Dieter
> 


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar  4 20:24:13 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:24:13 -0600
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <3E650B6D.7080904@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>     http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/ExternalFile
>     http://www.zope.org/Members/MacGregor/ExtFile
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/localfs
>
>Questions:
>
>     Can anyone recommend one of these products over the other?
>     Will they let me do what I describe?
>     Are there products which are a better fit?
>     Is there an easier/better way?
>  
>
There's one angle I want to cover here that hasn't been done yet. I 
won't recommend any of these over the other (they've all worked fine for 
me in various capacities) but I will describe how they are different:

ExtFile/ExtImage simply stores its contents on the filesystem. Although 
you can find out where, you really shouldn't monkey with the repository. 
This is the product to use if you just want to keep things out of the 
ZODB and don't care about getting to things on the FS.

External File gets its data from a *specific* file on the filesystem. If 
you want a single file to live in Zope and on your FS, and to be 
manipulable from both, use this.

LocalFS (and yes, it is hard to find on zope.org) makes an entire 
specific directory visible in Zope as folderish objects and content. If 
you have a variable number of files to access, or want to publish a 
whole directory, and don't mind it being in its own folder, use this.

I suppose there's room in the list above for an ExtFolder product, which 
stores some tree of Zope objects on the FS somewhere. But perhaps 
mounting a Directory Storage does this. Academic anyway.

Also, if you ask me, using Zope's security mechanisms is a fine reason 
to put even mostly-static content under Zope control. There is good 
reason to let Apache serve static content, however: makes me think about 
how, say, a StaticApacheFile might work.

          --jcc



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Tue Mar  4 20:35:07 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:35:07 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Customize the ZMI
Message-ID: <F127fAfvOXvxDZpbfKK00015bbf@hotmail.com>

For the general public we are using CMF. For myself and one or two other 
developers some work within the ZMI will be required. I would like to be 
able to make some enhancements for the way that we work and code. Is there 
any documentation on what dtml files control which part of the ZMI and where 
those files reside on the filesystem?






>From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>
>Reply-To: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>
>To: Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com>, zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Customize the ZMI
>Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:32:53 +0100
>
>checkout the .dtml files of the zope distribution. Are you really sure
>that you want to customize the ZMI??? Better take a look at CMF/Plone
>when you need customized templates for content management purposes.
>
>-aj
>
>--On Dienstag, 4. März 2003 17:14 +0000 Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com> 
>wrote:
>
>>What files can be edited to change the ZMI. Does this have to be done
>>from the file system or can it be done from within the ZMI itself.
>>
>>I want to be able to change some of the styling, logo, label placement,
>>etc.
>>
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar  4 21:03:15 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:03:15 -0500
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <3E650B6D.7080904@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com> <3E650B6D.7080904@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <20030304210315.GF3495@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:24:13PM -0600, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> I suppose there's room in the list above for an ExtFolder product, which 
> stores some tree of Zope objects on the FS somewhere. But perhaps 
> mounting a Directory Storage does this.

FYI, it does not.

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar  4 21:21:17 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:21:17 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Customize the ZMI
In-Reply-To: <F127fAfvOXvxDZpbfKK00015bbf@hotmail.com>
References: <F127fAfvOXvxDZpbfKK00015bbf@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E6518CD.8070003@jcameroncooper.com>

> For the general public we are using CMF. For myself and one or two 
> other developers some work within the ZMI will be required. I would 
> like to be able to make some enhancements for the way that we work and 
> code. Is there any documentation on what dtml files control which part 
> of the ZMI and where those files reside on the filesystem? 

It's easy to figure out for yourself: look at the url some page is 
under, and what type of object it is being called on. The end of the URL 
is a method of the Zope object (possibly acquired, probably not in the 
ZMI.)  Look in the zope source for that type of object for that method. 
Many of the built-in products live in lib/python/OFS. That method will 
probably be an instance of a DTML method or something similar, and that 
will tell you where the source for that object is (usually under a dtml 
subdirectory.)

Say you want to find the frameset of the ZMI. This is 'manage', as you 
can see in your browser. This is called on the root, which is a Folder. 
Find the folder class, which is in lib/python/OFS/Folder.py module.

But this has no 'manage' method, so it must be in a super-class. Check 
ObjectManager, in ObjectManager.py. We find there a 'manage_main' which 
says it is in 'dml/main' and also a 'manage_index_main', but no 'manage' 
just yet. At this point, you could guess and take a look at 
lib/python/OFS/dtml/main.dtml (the suffix is appened before lookup) to 
see if this is it (it isn't). We'll have to look some more.

So where is 'manage'? Perhaps one of the other superclasses of 
ObjectManager? Take a look through App.Management.Navigation (in 
lib/python/App/Management.py) and go to the Navigation class. There it 
is: 'manage' is a DTMLFile in 'dtml/manage', meaning 
'lib/python/App/Management/dtml/manage.dtml'. The same class also 
defines an awful lot of the rest of the ZMI.

The shortcut is to find some probably-unique text and do a search of 
file contents in your zope install. A simple

grep -r frameset *

will also get you the same file, and a lot faster. But you won't 
understand why half so well.

          --jcc



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar  4 21:28:52 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 13:28:52 -0800
Subject: [Zope] 3rd party eloctronic payment solutions
In-Reply-To: <3E64AA85.6090.8F7DD8E4@localhost>
References: <BA898BA0.492%marc@sharedbase.com> <3E64AA85.6090.8F7DD8E4@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E651A94.9060307@neurobs.com>

What exactly is the "Cybercash Zope product"

A prelim search on zope.org gave me Wampum and zCommerce. But both are 
in alpha stages. Could you please explain??

TIA
AM

Brad Clements wrote:

>On 4 Mar 2003 at 7:58, AM wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Thanks all. Unfortunately I specifically need credit card transaction
>>handlers, since that is the nature of our customer base. I will report my
>>experiences regarding the vendor I choose to the list in the hopes that it
>>might be useful to someone.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>http://www.adirondackcraft.com (Currently Zope 2.6, started on 1. something)
>
>is using the Cybercash Zope product with Verisign as the processor.
>
>Works great!
>
>
>  
>


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From bokonon@rochester.rr.com  Tue Mar  4 21:34:01 2003
From: bokonon@rochester.rr.com (Caleb Land)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:34:01 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Acquisition of the View permission
Message-ID: <20030304213401.GA17059@helga.granfalloon.com>

Hello,

I am having trouble with folders and the view permission.  Say I have a layout
like:

Users +
      |--index_html
      |--caleb +
      |        |--Folder 1
      |
      |--brian +
               |--Folder 2

Now, let's say that user 'caleb' owns the caleb folder, and user 'brian' owns
the brian folder.  If I set Folder 1 to be View'ed by owner/manager and without
acquisition, shouldn't someone logged in as 'brian' be forbidden to see:

/Users/caleb/Folder 1/

even if index_html is able to be View'ed by Anonymous? (because of the context
it's being called from)

Sincerely,
Caleb Land
(bokonon@rochester.rr.com)



From bkc@murkworks.com  Tue Mar  4 21:56:26 2003
From: bkc@murkworks.com (Brad Clements)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 16:56:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] 3rd party eloctronic payment solutions
In-Reply-To: <3E651A94.9060307@neurobs.com>
References: <3E64AA85.6090.8F7DD8E4@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E64D7A0.3657.902E0C73@localhost>

On 4 Mar 2003 at 13:28, AM wrote:

> What exactly is the "Cybercash Zope product"
> 
> A prelim search on zope.org gave me Wampum and zCommerce. But both are in
> alpha stages. Could you please explain??

Sorry, I mean Wampum.


We are using Wampum.. .It's old, but works fine. We've been using it for 2+ years


> ==================================================================	
>  "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
>   stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
> ================================================================== 

Heh.. 


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From aaltepet@bethel.edu  Tue Mar  4 21:57:08 2003
From: aaltepet@bethel.edu (Andrew Altepeter)
Date: 04 Mar 2003 15:57:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] custom authentication
In-Reply-To: <15972.63613.180789.274699@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1046790333.18949.80.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>
 <15972.63613.180789.274699@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <1046815028.18949.108.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>

On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 13:03, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Andrew Altepeter wrote at 2003-3-4 09:05 -0600:
>  > I am working on integrating zope into the single sign-on auth. server we
>  > have.  To do so, I  started with the cookie_validate method in
>  > exUserFolder, modified it to suit, and placed it in my custom userFolder
>  > class.  
>  > 
>  > Ok, so it is working great if you to a page that requires
>  > authentication.  However, I have noticed a few quiry happenings here,
>  > and maybe you guys can help me out.
>  > 
>  > Sometimes, if I authenticate through the sso, and try access an object
>  > my user object doesn't have access do, I am sent a 401 Unauthorized with
>  > a Basic login window.  This is not what I want!
>  > 
>  > If the user is logged in, but doesn't have access, I want to return a
>  > 'no access' page, and if the user is not logged not, then I want to
>  > redirect to the sso.
> 
> UserFolder's usually ensure this by overriding the
> "unauthorized" method of the RESPONSE object.
> 
> Have a look at CookieCrumber (as an example).

Ok, I see.  It seems that exUserFolder is an incomplete product then,
since it does not override the unauthorized method.  As such, it cannot
prevent Basic auth's from slipping through unannounced...?
__________
Looking in CookieCrumbler.py, I see that the __call__ method replaces
the response.unauth methods.  But when I try to do that, I get a
complaint from zope:
  File "/usr/local/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py", line
662, in exception
    self._unauthorized()
TypeError: unbound Python method must be called with PortalUserFolder
1st argument
----------

To replace the unauth methods, I do the following:
In Products/PortalUserFolder/__init__.py, I do the following:
from ZPublisher.HTTPResponse import HTTPResponse
from PortalUserFolder import PortalUserFolder
#patch the HTTPResponse object's unauth code
HTTPResponse.old__unauthorized = HTTPResponse._unauthorized
HTTPResponse._unauthorized = PortalUserFolder._unauthorized    
HTTPResponse.old_unauthorized = HTTPResponse.unauthorized
HTTPResponse.unauthorized = PortalUserFolder.unauthorized


Well, this doesn't seem to work.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for all the help,
Andy

> 
> 
> Dieter



From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Tue Mar  4 22:08:51 2003
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:08:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] python variables rendered by dtml
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B310C@SRV-03>

This is going to sound convoluted, but trust me, it's this way on purpose.

I have a python script that gets a result back from an unparameterized zsql
query like this-

foo = container.get_stuff_sql()

I then make some alterations to 'foo' in my script which I will leave out
for clarity.

I then want to render 'foo' from a dtml method with a dtml-in clause. What
is to best way to pass 'foo' into the dtml method? 

(I'm having internet problems and I can't get to Zope labs right now, or I'd
look it up myself.)


From creiman@kefta.com  Tue Mar  4 22:29:50 2003
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:29:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] python variables rendered by dtml
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B310C@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKKENLDIAA.creiman@kefta.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:09 PM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] python variables rendered by dtml
>
>
> This is going to sound convoluted, but trust me, it's this way on purpose.
>
> I have a python script that gets a result back from an
> unparameterized zsql
> query like this-
>
> foo = container.get_stuff_sql()
>
> I then make some alterations to 'foo' in my script which I will leave out
> for clarity.
>
> I then want to render 'foo' from a dtml method with a dtml-in clause. What
> is to best way to pass 'foo' into the dtml method?
>
> (I'm having internet problems and I can't get to Zope labs right
> now, or I'd
> look it up myself.)

Have you tried:

return foo

It doesn't need to be named. Call your python script via the dtml-in, return
foo, and all will be well. I do it all the time.




From fluxent@yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 22:35:10 2003
From: fluxent@yahoo.com (Bill Seitz)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 14:35:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] zope crashes on first hit
Message-ID: <20030304223510.63646.qmail@web14105.mail.yahoo.com>

All the sudden my zope (v2.5.1 running on Win98) is
crashing while processing its first hit. This seems
true regardless of the URL requests (manage,
manage_main, index_html), though it's possible I'm
getting 1 hit sometimes before it dies.

I think this has been triggered by an ugly crash
requiring a hard reboot of my machine. I've rebooted
multiple times since then...

Here's what I see in the DOS window:

2003-03-04T18:50:21 ERROR(200) ZServer uncaptured
python exception, closing channel
<ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_channel connected
127.0.0.1:1247 at 0x1d59b2c channel#: 0 requests:>
(exceptions.IOError:[Errno 9] Bad file descriptor
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py|poll|107]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py|handle_write_event|398]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asynchat.py|handle_write|146]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asynchat.py|initiate_send|208]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asynchat.py|refill_buffer|195]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\Producers.py|more|36]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py|log|289]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|log|247]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|log|77]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|write|53]
[D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|maybe_flush|65])

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\z2.py", line 774, in ?
    asyncore.loop()
  File
"D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py",line
200, in loop
    poll_fun (timeout, map)
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py",
line 111, in poll
    obj.handle_error()
  File
"D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line
437, in
handle_err
or
    asynchat.async_chat.handle_error (self)
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py",
line 421, in
handle_error
    self.close()
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\HTTPServer.py", line
293, in close
    p.more() # free up resources held by producer
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\Producers.py", line
36, in more
    getattr(self.logger, self.method)(self.bytes)
  File
"D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py", line
289, in 
log
    ' - %s [%s] "%s" %d %d "%s" "%s"\n' % (
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py",
line 247, in log
    self.logger.log ('%s%s' % (ip, message))
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py",
line 77, in log
    self.write (message)
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py",
line 53, in write
    self.maybe_flush()
  File "D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py",
line 65, in
maybe_flush
    self.file.flush()
IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor


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From bokonon@rochester.rr.com  Tue Mar  4 22:39:12 2003
From: bokonon@rochester.rr.com (Caleb Land)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:39:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Acquisition of the View permission
In-Reply-To: <20030304213401.GA17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
References: <20030304213401.GA17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
Message-ID: <20030304223912.GB17059@helga.granfalloon.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:34:01PM -0500, Caleb Land wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am having trouble with folders and the view permission.  Say I have a layout
> like:
> 
> Users +
>       |--index_html
>       |--caleb +
>       |        |--Folder 1
>       |
>       |--brian +
>                |--Folder 2
> 
> Now, let's say that user 'caleb' owns the caleb folder, and user 'brian' owns
> the brian folder.  If I set Folder 1 to be View'ed by owner/manager and without
> acquisition, shouldn't someone logged in as 'brian' be forbidden to see:
> 
> /Users/caleb/Folder 1/
> 
> even if index_html is able to be View'ed by Anonymous? (because of the context
> it's being called from)

I just re-read the Zope Book chapter on security, and I think I know what's
wrong.  The index_html ZPT is executing with the permissions of the ZPT itself,
right?

If that's the case, then what would be a good way to achieve my original goal?
(restricting access to an acquired source based on context (in this case
index_html))

Sincerely,
Caleb Land
(bokonon@rochester.rr.com)



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 22:41:42 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 14:41:42 -0800
Subject: [Zope] python variables rendered by dtml
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B310C@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304144007.01d3aec8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 02:08 PM 3/4/2003, jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:
>I then want to render 'foo' from a dtml method with a dtml-in clause. What
>is to best way to pass 'foo' into the dtml method?

<dtml-in "python_script(args)">

Where python_script returns foo.

Dylan



From alet@librelogiciel.com  Tue Mar  4 22:31:48 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:31:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] persistent object with non-persistent attributes
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D53A@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D53A@desi2>
Message-ID: <20030304223148.GB10142@mail.librelogiciel.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:50:34AM -0800, sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:

> instance.  Perhaps you could keep an external boolean lock variable in a
> module-level global accessible to all threads, but it might just be easier
> to follow Toby's suggestion and just see if you can keep your myNonZopeClass
> instance object in a module-level global, and just keep a reference to it in
> a _v_ attribute?  I've never tried anything like this, might something like
> this possibly work?

OK, I'll try to write something like this.

The alternative is to open and close the device (serial ports in fact)
every time, and rely on the system to disallow multiple opens at the 
same time (untested)

Thanks to all.

Jerome Alet


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 23:03:59 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:03:59 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Acquisition of the View permission
In-Reply-To: <20030304223912.GB17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
References: <20030304213401.GA17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
 <20030304213401.GA17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304150136.01d0ade8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 02:39 PM 3/4/2003, Caleb Land wrote:
>If that's the case, then what would be a good way to achieve my original goal?
>(restricting access to an acquired source based on context (in this case
>index_html))

If you want objects to acquire security settings from their container, use 
the Acquire Permission Settings option in the object's Security tab.  More 
often than not, this is a good default practice, as it means any changes to 
container settings propagate to their member objects.

HTH,

Dylan



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Tue Mar  4 23:12:08 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:12:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
(record).

In the script, I can assign to Code, say:

Code = 1

but if I try, say:

Fields.a_field = 1

I get the error:

> Error Type: TypeError
> Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)

Do I need some special syntax for that or is it simply not possible (and
why)?

Regards,
Fernando



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar  4 23:39:48 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:39:48 -0800
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 03:12 PM 3/4/2003, Fernando Martins wrote:
>I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
>(record).

Record?  Haven't heard of *that* data type...

>Fields.a_field = 1
>
>I get the error:
>
> > Error Type: TypeError
> > Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)

That's because whatever it is you're passing in for the value of Fields 
doesn't have the attribute you're attempting to assign to.

If Fields is a mapping (like REQUEST.form), you may want:

Fields['a_field'] = 1

If that's not it, could you provide a bit more info on what's getting 
passed in for Fields?

HTH,

Dylan



From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Tue Mar  4 23:42:18 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:42:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Li
 nux...
In-Reply-To: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560EC9@exchange.iecholden.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303041540160.16047-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Meehan, Francois wrote:
> 
> Since I have python 2.2 on my system, and did compiled PIL with that,
> copying PIL in Zope/lib, the mix of python version might create the problem.
>B
> How can I compile PIL with the python version that comes with Zope?
> 

Follow the same procedure you used to install PIL under python2.2.  When
it comes to run setup, use the python that zope uses, usually
lib/bin/python.





From andy@agmweb.ca  Tue Mar  4 23:49:33 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:49:33 -0800
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3E653B8D.5070203@agmweb.ca>

>> > Error Type: TypeError
>> > Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
> 
> 
> That's because whatever it is you're passing in for the value of Fields 
> doesn't have the attribute you're attempting to assign to.

It has that attribute but as part of Script (Python) security you cannot 
assign to it. eg: try this Script (Python)

script.title = 'Foo'

Not sure that it really provides more security than annoyance, but the 
idea is you have to call a function or use an API for that object.

Cheers
-- 
   Andy McKay



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Tue Mar  4 23:54:27 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 00:54:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFGELCCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Thanks for replying,

From: Dylan Reinhardt
> Fernando Martins wrote:
> >I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
> >(record).
>
> Record?  Haven't heard of *that* data type...
>

Well, I don't know if it is really a data type. In the zope book it's called
parameter conversion, you know, to convert string values from the form to
some other Python data type. I was assuming 'record' would convert to some
(unknown?)  class.

> >Fields.a_field = 1
> >
> >I get the error:
> >
> > > Error Type: TypeError
> > > Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
>
> That's because whatever it is you're passing in for the value of Fields
> doesn't have the attribute you're attempting to assign to.
>

This works ok (in a right-hand side expression):

print Fields.a_field

> If Fields is a mapping (like REQUEST.form), you may want:
>
> Fields['a_field'] = 1
>
> If that's not it, could you provide a bit more info on what's getting
> passed in for Fields?
>

Sure, in the form I've stuff like:

<input type="text" name="Fields.Title:record">
<input type="text" name="Fields.Author:record">
etc...

I can _use_ expressions like Fields.Title in the Python script but I can't
modify it.

Cheers,
Fernando



From Francois@iecholden.com  Tue Mar  4 23:54:49 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of Zope 2.6.1 on Li
 nux...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560ECD@exchange.iecholden.com>

Hi,

Finally got it to work, well almost...

I had to use python 2.1 to compile PIL, also, Zphotoslides, the zope product
that started it all,  requires PIL 1.1.3.  Now the product appears, I
created a zphoto slide folder. 

After I had put some pictures in it, if I make changes to a photo, these
will appear in preview, but when clicking on modify, get message: Nothing
has to be done.  But that is another story...

PIL is working.

It's a long an winding road, all this to have some pictures of my new dog on
the net :-)

Thanks all,


Francois

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Allison [mailto:allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU]
> Sent: March 4, 2003 6:42 PM
> To: Meehan, Francois
> Cc: 'Dieter Maurer'; 'zope@zope.org'
> Subject: RE: [Zope] RE: Installing PIL on binary dist. of 
> Zope 2.6.1 on
> Li nux...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Meehan, Francois wrote:
> > 
> > Since I have python 2.2 on my system, and did compiled PIL 
> with that,
> > copying PIL in Zope/lib, the mix of python version might 
> create the problem.
> >B
> > How can I compile PIL with the python version that comes with Zope?
> > 
> 
> Follow the same procedure you used to install PIL under 
> python2.2.  When
> it comes to run setup, use the python that zope uses, usually
> lib/bin/python.
> 
> 
> 


From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Mar  5 00:08:11 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:08:11 -0500
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl> <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <20030305000811.GH3495@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 03:39:48PM -0800, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> At 03:12 PM 3/4/2003, Fernando Martins wrote:
> >I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
> >(record).
> 
> Record?  Haven't heard of *that* data type...

search for it in the "advanced scripting" chapter of the online 
zope book.

> >Fields.a_field = 1
> >
> >I get the error:
> >
> >> Error Type: TypeError
> >> Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
> 
> That's because whatever it is you're passing in for the value of Fields 
> doesn't have the attribute you're attempting to assign to.

no, then he'd get an AttributeError.
but you're right that Fields is probably not what was expected,
because the record class defined in HTTPRequest.py will let you 
assign any attribute.

What's in the actual form where it gets a value for Fields?

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From briansullivan@coursesbywire.com  Wed Mar  5 00:18:55 2003
From: briansullivan@coursesbywire.com (Brian Sullivan)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Windows Server 2003
Message-ID: <003101c2e2ac$cf61ca60$6401a8c0@Brian>

Has anybody tried Zope on Windows Server 2003.

>From what I can tell it installs ok -- and appears to be running but
attempts to access it via webbrowser ( locally ) fail.

Is there something obvious I might be missing?



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar  5 00:25:44 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:25:44 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Windows Server 2003
In-Reply-To: <003101c2e2ac$cf61ca60$6401a8c0@Brian>
References: <003101c2e2ac$cf61ca60$6401a8c0@Brian>
Message-ID: <3E654408.50409@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Is there something obvious I might be missing?
>  
>
At the risk of being too obvious: you are going to

http://localhost:8080

right?

If so, perhaps your OS is doing some sort of firewalling?

          --jcc



From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Wed Mar  5 00:45:01 2003
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:45:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] VERSIONLOCKERROR
Message-ID: <02a701c2e2b0$7612f2f0$0100a8c0@AHAH>

I'm locked, I  can't change anything I  modified  in a "experimental"
version and of course I was not very cautious in my experimentations..

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
  Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit
  Module ZODB.Transaction, line 235, in commit
  Module ZODB.Transaction, line 349, in _commit_objects
  Module ZODB.Connection, line 391, in commit
   - __traceback_info__: (('OFS.Folder', 'Folder'),
'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x11\x87', '')
  Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 726, in store
VersionLockError: ("'\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x11\\x87'",
'/danielle/philosophie_africaine/version_exp')

with the help of google, I could find a recipe
 May be you could open the database and try this:> > >>> db = ZODB.DB(fs)>
>>> db.abortVersion('content_cntrl')> >>> get_transaction().commit()> >>>
db.close()but it's a little bit indigestible for a newbie..
what will happen if change my full.py  to take the newest from the cvs? is
it safe?
thanks





From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Mar  5 00:56:07 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:56:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <3E653B8D.5070203@agmweb.ca>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <3E653B8D.5070203@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <20030305005607.GI3495@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 03:49:33PM -0800, Andy McKay wrote:
> It has that attribute but as part of Script (Python) security you cannot 
> assign to it. eg: try this Script (Python)

ahhh ok.
so it really is a record.

question is, why do you need  to modify it in the script anyway?
just do foo = Fields.afield and do whatever w/ foo.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar  5 01:35:56 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:35:56 -0800
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <20030305000811.GH3495@slinkp.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030304153559.01d52e78@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030304173335.01cfb100@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 04:08 PM 3/4/2003, Paul Winkler wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 03:39:48PM -0800, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> > At 03:12 PM 3/4/2003, Fernando Martins wrote:
> > >I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
> > >(record).
> >
> > Record?  Haven't heard of *that* data type...
>
>search for it in the "advanced scripting" chapter of the online
>zope book.

Aha... still learning something new every day it would seem.  :-)

Thanks,

Dylan



From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Wed Mar  5 02:09:03 2003
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:09:03 -0500
Subject: [Zope] python variables rendered by dtml
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3120@SRV-03>

>It doesn't need to be named. Call your python script via the dtml-in,
return
>foo, and all will be well. I do it all the time.

But what I want to do is the opposite:

to call the dtml-method from the python script with the list as an argument.


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Wed Mar  5 04:12:06 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:12:06 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F4@AUHEXCH>

I saw these earlier. These seem to be the only numbers, or 'real' numbers
available. But they're OLD! ZServer has improved between Zope 2.1 (which is
when I last used it) and now. I think showing Zope to be faster than Tomcat,
as the numbers indicate, will be difficult to support, especially since I
don't believe it myself.

Thanks all the same.

Samir.



-----Original Message-----
From: J Cameron Cooper [mailto:jccooper@jcameroncooper.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 00:34
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: Re: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope


There are some numbers here:

http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html

          --jcc


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From nthomas@cise.ufl.edu  Wed Mar  5 04:18:34 2003
From: nthomas@cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 23:18:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] dynamically generated TAL not being interpreted
In-Reply-To: <15971.45950.565229.839572@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu> <15971.45950.565229.839572@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030305041834.GG4452@cise.ufl.edu>

* Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> [2003-03-03 20:56:46 +0100]:
> N. Thomas wrote at 2003-3-1 23:46 -0500:
> > We have a script that generates TAL. The problem is that the content
> > is not being interpeted as TAL by Zope, but rather as raw HTML.
> 
> You must make a Page Template object from your TAL source code, wrap
> it in an appropriate context (--> "__of__") and return it (or call it
> to let it render).
> 
> You can do this only in an External Method (or other filesystem based
> code).

Well, this was a start in the right direction. But after wading through
the archives, the nearest solution I can cruft together is an external
method like this:

    from Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate import ZopePageTemplate

    def talgen():

        zptstr = \
    """
    <html>
    <body>
    If properlu rendered,
    this sentence <b tal:omit-tag="">should contain no tags.</b>
    </body>
    </html>
    """ 

        zptid = 'foobar'
        z = ZopePageTemplate(id=zptid, text=zptstr, content_type="text/html")
        return z

But this returns an error, probably because I'm stabbing in the dark.
Also, I have no idea where exactly to stick the "__of__" method. (I did
look at the relevant sections in
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html though.)

My questions:

    Where is the API for Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate
    documented?

    In Products.PageTemplates, should I use PageTemplate, or
    PageTemplateFile, or ZopePageTemplate?

    In the code above, I see that ZopePageTemplate requires that an id
    be passed in, does that mean that I have to create a temporary ZPT
    object in the Zope filesystem, return that, and somehow make sure it
    is destroyed afterwards? I only passed in 'foobar' because it was
    required.

Also, if anyone could point me to a fragment of code that does something
similar it would be much appreciated.

thomas

-- 
N. Thomas
nthomas@cise.ufl.edu
Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar  5 05:53:51 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:53:51 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Windows Server 2003
References: <b43jkv+7aps@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3E6590EF.5040802@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>>>Is there something obvious I might be missing?
>>>      
>>>
>>At the risk of being too obvious: you are going to
>>
>>http://localhost:8080
>>
>>right?
>>    
>>
>Yes -- I am reasonably Zope competent, run an XP and Win2000 Zope -- 
>as far as I can tell I attempting access correctly.
>  
>
Forgive me my assumptions: all too often I find myself telling people 
how they have to be online to access their email.

"Oh. Really?"

>>If so, perhaps your OS is doing some sort of firewalling?
>>
>Perhaps -- nothing obvious that I can see though -- I just installed 
>this software to assess how Zope runs on it -- not very well so far 
>but I will keep digging.
>
I would suggest trying the FTP or WebDAV ports to see if you get 
anything there, and also perhaps changing the HTTP port to 80. That's 
terribly unlikely to be blocked. I'm assuming you can see that the 
Python processes are running: if so, perhaps you can try the 
scripting-Zope-by-ZEO method to see if anything actually is happening.

And do you get anything by way of log activity or console output ? 
(assuming this Windows Server thingy has a console...)

            --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar  5 06:14:14 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:14:14 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F4@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <3E6595B6.4020200@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I saw these earlier. These seem to be the only numbers, or 'real' numbers
>available. But they're OLD! ZServer has improved between Zope 2.1 (which is
>when I last used it) and now. I think showing Zope to be faster than Tomcat,
>as the numbers indicate, will be difficult to support, especially since I
>don't believe it myself.
>  
>
I don't know what's not to believe. A servlet engine has at least as 
much to do as Zope, if not more.

Although benchmarks are a very small part of the story as far as I'm 
concerned, there is a need for such numbers. I think I'll try to find 
time Thursday to do some tests with the usual suspects (at least so far 
as my work is concerned): Zope, Apache, Tomcat, Jetty, and maybe a 
little JBoss.

The results will certainly be published.

            --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar  5 06:49:20 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:49:20 -0600
Subject: [Zope] python variables rendered by dtml
References: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3120@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <3E659DF0.3010600@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>>It doesn't need to be named. Call your python script via the dtml-in,
>>    
>>
>return
>  
>
>>foo, and all will be well. I do it all the time.
>>    
>>
>
>But what I want to do is the opposite:
>
>to call the dtml-method from the python script with the list as an argument.
>  
>
In order to render the content in the script? I'll trust that you really 
need to do this and stow the alternatives:

you have a list-like result set you got from

foo = container.someSql()

you have a DTMLMethod 'renderSql' that says

<dtml-in someResultList>
  <dtml-var someField> ...
</dtml-in>

In your PythonScript you can just do

return context.renderSql(someResultList=foo)

to render it with foo in the namespace as someResultList. But that'll 
leave everything else out of the namespace, so you really want to do

return context.renderSql(client=context, someResultList=foo)

if you want to aquire anything from your surroundings (which you almost 
always want to do.)

Canonically, or if you want to use you REQUEST namespace or manipulate 
your RESPONSE in your DTML method, you can say

request = container.REQUEST
response =  request.RESPONSE
return context.renderSQL(client=context, REQUEST=request, 
RESPONSE=response, someResultList=foo)

                --jcc
        (not canonical)



From andy@agmweb.ca  Wed Mar  5 07:04:47 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 23:04:47 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope access to external files
In-Reply-To: <3E650B6D.7080904@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <86ptp7vy5d.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com> <3E650B6D.7080904@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E65A18F.7090703@agmweb.ca>

> There is good 
> reason to let Apache serve static content, however: makes me think about 
> how, say, a StaticApacheFile might work.

I have to at this point mention FSCacheManager which takes an object 
from Zope and writes it out as a static file so in future hits it will 
be served as a static file from Apache. Not really the same thing and 
doesn't help the poster, but I think worth mentioning in a static file 
overview ;)
-- 
   Andy McKay



From zope@stylusinc.net  Wed Mar  5 07:17:02 2003
From: zope@stylusinc.net (Zope@Stylus)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:47:02 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Result set error
Message-ID: <012f01c2e2e7$53acee00$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>

Hi all

I am using Zope-2.5.1 on a Mandrake Linux machine .My RDBMS is PostgreSQL.
I have written a simple python script which calls a zsql method whicg
returns a ResultSet which has 5000 Records.
Now I am readig from the ResultSet and writing the values to an array
(tuple) .
But of the 5000 records I am being able to get only 1000 Records in the
Pytho script .The 4000 other records dont seem to be coming .
Here is my code.

userlist = []
list_users = context.oms_old.john.db.zsqll_omslogs()
print len(list_users.tuples())                        #----> the answer I
get is 1000.

for x in list_users:
   userlist = userlist + [[str(x[0]) , x[1], str(x[2]) ,str(x[3])]]

#return userlist
return printed

So now I am getting a tuple with just 1000 * 4 array
Where I  should be getting a 5000 * 4 array ..
The zsql method -->context.oms_old.john.db.zsqll_omslogs() --- is as follows
select * from omslogs

And select count(*) from omslogs returns 5000.But the answer for
len(list_users.tuples())    is 1000.
Also I am geeting only the 1000 Records in the table where I am displaying
the records.
Could you please guide me here and point out where I may have gone
wrong.Thanks for all help in advance

Thanks and Best Regards
John Kunchandy


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From zope@stylusinc.net  Wed Mar  5 07:17:05 2003
From: zope@stylusinc.net (Zope@Stylus)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:47:05 +0530
Subject: [Zope] DateTime Error-Recurring
Message-ID: <013001c2e2e7$548d8a00$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>

Hi all

There is one  issue I would like to clarify.The date time module is throwing
an erro everytime I open the ZMI.
I have a zsql mehtod ...> select DateTime(ldate) from tbluser
Now as long as the ZMI is not opened there is no issue with the
performance.But at any point of time if I open the ZMI for doing some
editing then I get the following error.

      Zope Error
      Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

      Error Type: Invalid Date-Time String
      Error Value: 2002-10-24 12:01:35+05



--------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Troubleshooting Suggestions

        a.. The URL may be incorrect.
        b.. The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
        c.. A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an
error.
      For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the
HTML source for this page.

      If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you
for your patience.



Traceback (innermost last):
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in
publish_module
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/Products/Localizer/__init__.py, line 65, in
new_publish
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in
publish
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 159, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
    (Object: john)
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 98, in
publish
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88, in
mapply
    (Object: get_omslogs)
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 39, in
call_object
    (Object: get_omslogs)
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line
252, in __call__
    (Object: get_omslogs)
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py, line
283, in _bindAndExec
    (Object: get_omslogs)
  File
/Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/PythonScript.py,
line 302, in _exec
    (Object: get_omslogs)
    (Info: ({'script': <PythonScript instance at 8e1ea08>, 'context':
<Folder instance at 8fa4a20>, 'container': <Folder instance at 8fa4a20>,
'traverse_subpath': []}, ('dd',), {}, None))
  File Script (Python), line 12, in get_omslogs
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/DA.py, line 421, in
__call__
    (Object: zsqll_omslogs)
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Products/ZPsycopgDA/db.py, line
205, in query
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/Products/ZPsycopgDA/DA.py, line
120, in cast_DateTime
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/DateTime/DateTime.py, line 651, in
__init__
  File /Users/zope/Zope-2.5.1/lib/python/DateTime/DateTime.py, line 1022, in
_parse
Invalid Date-Time String: (see above)

Thus erro only happens when the ZMI is opened.Now the solution for
overcoming this is still not clear .I open the detials of the Psycopg
connection and then click on the  Save changes
button without making any changes.And it seems to do the trick.But again
when someone opens the ZMI on their machine and I am already working n have
chnaged it but stil the same error gets thrown up.

Is this problem being faced only by me or others as well.The way I am
resolvin this issue is very non logical.Could you please guide me here and
point out where I may have gone wrong.Thanks for all help in advance

Thanks and Best Regards
John Kunchandy


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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Wed Mar 26 07:24:34 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:24:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] DateTime Error-Recurring
In-Reply-To: <013001c2e2e7$548d8a00$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
References: <013001c2e2e7$548d8a00$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
Message-ID: <1826496.1048667074@[0.0.0.2]>


--On Mittwoch, 5. M=E4rz 2003 12:47 +0530 "Zope@Stylus" =
<zope@stylusinc.net>=20
wrote:

> Hi all
>
> There is one  issue I would like to clarify.The date time module is
> throwing an erro everytime I open the ZMI.
> I have a zsql mehtod ...> select DateTime(ldate) from tbluser
> Now as long as the ZMI is not opened there is no issue with the
> performance.But at any point of time if I open the ZMI for doing some
> editing then I get the following error.
>
>       Zope Error
>       Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
>
>       Error Type: Invalid Date-Time String
>       Error Value:


I don't know about the underlying problem but "2002-10-24 12:01:35+05"
is not a valid date format that can be passed to the DateTime
constructor. Check out the DateTime API for details.

-aj


From deboer@wisdom.nl  Wed Mar  5 09:30:13 2003
From: deboer@wisdom.nl (Chris de Boer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:30:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbie question about installing modules
Message-ID: <LNEHLDAAPLFLFALNMHNAEEJNCBAA.deboer@wisdom.nl>

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Hi there,

I've just installed Zope and Plone and I'm trying to install additional
modules (like the VisualEditor module).
It has to be copied to the lib/Python/Products directory. When restarting
the zope server, it generates an error.

I couldn't find any documentation about how to install the module (other
than: "install in the normal way").
I suppose I have to run some kind of script to install the module properly.

Any help will be appreciated !!!!!!!

Chris.

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the=20
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suppose I have to=20
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From j_melt@yahoo.com  Wed Mar  5 09:53:19 2003
From: j_melt@yahoo.com (Yannis Lionis)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:53:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Users and passwords
Message-ID: <20030305095319.93601.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com>

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Hi everyone.

I have a problem with creating and accessing a new user. If I create a new user in the acl_users folder (login name: guest, password: guest) and then logout and try to login as guest, the password is not recognised. I took a look around the mailing list archives and discovered that others have been having the same problem, but I found no solution that works for me. But what _really_ worries me, is that when I add the new user and then try to edit its details, the password is (or looks) 8 characters long no matter what password I had entered! Is this normal behaviour? Can anybody help me on this? 

Thanks!

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From lsh@wo.cz  Wed Mar  5 09:59:14 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:59:14 -0000
Subject: [Zope] STX - how to add new function
Message-ID: <3E5C6A8200142772@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

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: Odes=EDlatel: Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>
: >But I have no success with any of 3 files (it is need to be modified
: >ClassicStructuredText.py, DocumentClass.py, HTMLClass.py)
:=20
: Well... what kind of non-success did you encounter?  I doubt there's a=20
: how-to for modifying these files in exactly the way you want to, but if
you=20
: put up what you're trying and what's going wrong, you can probably get
some=20
: help.

Thanks for a promise and sorry for long mail.

In attachment I send my changes, here are errors, filenames and
added/modified lines only in STX_changes.stx.

I know that would be better to write new .py scripts, like
Document/HTMLWithImages.py, but I dont know exactly how, I am not a big
programmer.

Many thanks,

J. Lukesh
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From j_melt@yahoo.com  Wed Mar  5 10:29:06 2003
From: j_melt@yahoo.com (Yannis Lionis)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 02:29:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Users and passwords
In-Reply-To: <20030305095319.93601.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030305102906.17281.qmail@web13401.mail.yahoo.com>

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Ok, false alarm... I read here and there that you need to logout AND close down the browser, but it only just occured to me to try closing down ALL instances of my browser. Then I was able to login as the new user. 
Thanks anyway! 

 Yannis wrote:

Hi everyone.

I have a problem with creating and accessing a new user. If I create a new user in the acl_users folder (login name: guest, password: guest) and then logout and try to login as guest, the password is not recognised. I took a look around the mailing list archives and discovered that others have been having the same problem, but I found no solution that works for me. But what _really_ worries me, is that when I add the new user and then try to edit its details, the password is (or looks) 8 characters long no matter what password I had entered! Is this normal behaviour? Can anybody help me on this? 

Thanks!

Yannis



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<P>Ok, false alarm... I read here and there that you need to logout AND close down the browser, but it only just occured to me to try closing down ALL instances of my browser. Then I was able to login as the new user. 
<P>Thanks anyway!&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Yannis </I></B>wrote:</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<P>Hi everyone.</P>
<P>I have a problem with creating and accessing a new user. If I create a new user in the acl_users folder (login name: guest, password: guest) and then logout and try to login as guest, the password is not recognised. I took a look around the mailing list archives and discovered that others have been having the same problem, but I found no solution that works for me. But what _really_ worries me, is that when I add the new user and then try to edit its details, the password is (or looks) 8 characters long no matter what password I had entered! Is this normal behaviour? Can anybody help me on this? </P>
<P>Thanks!</P>
<P>Yannis</P>
<P><BR>
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From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Wed Mar  5 10:34:24 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:34:24 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Adding content to document types
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F9@AUHEXCH>

Hello all,

I'm adding documents & scripts to a folder using -
    context.manage_addDTMLMethod("index_html", "Index") #document name &
title
etc.

These documents are created with default body content.

My question is - how do I access/add to/replace the content that is inserted
into the documents by default? For example, I'd like to insert dynamically
generated code into Python scripts, or into the DTML document using
properties defined within the folder.

TIA.

Samir.


From richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com  Wed Mar  5 11:47:36 2003
From: richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com (Richard Ettema)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:47:36 -0000
Subject: [Zope] sending a post request to a secure site (paypal) from a python script/external method
Message-ID: <AAEKJCEJLELMLOCENMHMEEPOCAAA.richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com>

I'm trying to work out how to setup a python script and external method to
post form data to a paypal https url.
I basically want the user to click a button to pay for their selection which
calls the python script, their order info is saved for our records, and then
the external script passes onto paypal's secure server. Is this possible?

The closest I have got this to work is the palpay page displayed with images
missing, but not on a secure connection. I assume the images are missing
because the url in the address bar is that of the python script, not the
paypal url. Should I be doing something different than a read() in the ext.
method?

I have looked thru the examples in the urllib.py and urllib2.py but could
not work out where I am going wrong, or if it is possible.
I have seen comments about python must be built/installed with ssl support
for secure connections to https urls, how do I work out if python was
built/installed with this?

Running:
system: freebsd
Zope: 2.5.1
python: 2.1.3

The python script: payBill

#########
req = context.REQUEST
form_dict = {}

order_ref = context.recordOrder()

form_dict['cmd'] = '_xclick'
form_dict['business'] = 'test@test'
form_dict['item_name'] = 'Services'
form_dict['item_number'] = '%s' % order_ref
form_dict['amount'] = '%.2f' % float(req['gdttl'])
form_dict['return'] = '%s/services_thankyou' % req['URL']
form_dict['cancel_return'] = '%s/services_thanks' % req['URL1']
form_dict['no_note'] = 1
form_dict['currency_code'] = req['currency_code']

#send info to external method
url_req = context.payBillExt( 'https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr',
form_dict )

return url_req
##########

The External Method: payBillExt

#########
import urllib2
import urllib

def urlRequestCreation(self, url, data):
    """url"""

    url_data = urllib.urlencode( data )
    url_req = urllib2.urlopen(url, url_data)

    return url_req.read()
#########

Thanks for any pointers in the right direction.

Richard






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From mirsoft@gmx.net  Wed Mar  5 12:26:45 2003
From: mirsoft@gmx.net (Lubos Culen)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:26:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to change default method for calling object from the web?
Message-ID: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost>

Hello!

I have a problem:

Let's assume I have object 'obj' and its method 'view' . So, calling the 
object 'obj' from web URL (e.g. 'www.mysite.com/path/obj' ) will display 
content of 'obj'. Calling 'www.mysite.com/path/obj/view' will call method 
'view' of the object 'obj'.

Now I want that the method 'view' should be DEFAULT method for the object 
'obj', so calling 'www.mysite.com/path/obj' should automatically call the 
method 'view' of object 'obj'. Is it possible to do in Zope and how?

-- 
Regards, Mirsoft


From roel@planetinterior.com  Wed Mar  5 12:34:02 2003
From: roel@planetinterior.com (Roel Van den Bergh)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:34:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] system down - how to prevent?
In-Reply-To: <20030304233902.31892.47323.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGOEHECKAA.roel@planetinterior.com>

Hi all.

We have been working with Zope for over a year now and we like it.
It has been a long time since I had to call upon you people to help me out.

Yesterday, our production server went down the hard way.
While someone was editing some objects in the ZMI everything crashed. Not
only Zope, but the entire machine.

We are running redhat 7.3, apache and Zope 2.5.1 + CMF 1.3 on a Dell
PowerApp 120 dual PIII 1Ghz, 1 GB ram, Raid 5 so we thought we would be
rather save having also backed up Data.fs by our hosting provider.

After the crash the server would not start up again, indicating 'memory
failure'. After several retries nothing works anymore.
The machine is still under warranty so there is no real problem either.

Now comes the funny part.
There doesn't seem to exist any backup of the Data.fs.
Checking our systemlogs prior tho the incident revealed this:

Feb 14 02:54:08 piwebserver Retrospect[27997]: FSGetNodeInfo: lstat failed
on "/home/zope/2-5-1/var/Data.fs", error 75
Feb 14 02:54:08 piwebserver Retrospect[27997]: FSGetNodeInfo: lstat failed
on "/home/zope/2-5-1/var/Data.fs.old", error 75
Feb 14 02:54:12 piwebserver Retrospect[27995]: connTcpConnection: invalid
code found: 111

Now they tell us their backup program can connect to our server, but the
Data.fs file cannot be backed up because it is locked / in use.

Our firewall is open to the backup program
$IPT -A tcp_inbound -p TCP -s 111.111.111.111 --destination-port 497 -j
ACCEPT

How come? We can manually create a copy of the file.
Has anyone had these problems and how did you solve them.

Secondly we are investigating how to prevent downtime of the production
server in the future.
I had a quick peek at ZEO but I'm a bit lost there.
What is the minimum setup for a production site to be kept alive (not
necesaraly with the same specs)
As far as I can tell you need at least three machines to keep your site
alive:
a 'load- balancer', a 'client' and a 'server'. Could this be narrowed down
to two machines?

And what if the actual 'ZEO server' goes down?

TIA, WKR, Roel





From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar  5 12:40:07 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:40:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Result set error
In-Reply-To: <012f01c2e2e7$53acee00$1c0aa8c0@stylusinc.com>
Message-ID: <98E22274-4F07-11D7-9D25-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

ZSQL methods have a setting for the maximum number of results returned. 
go to that ZSQL method and change the setting, which defaults to 1000

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 02:17 US/Eastern, Zope@Stylus wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I am using Zope-2.5.1 on a Mandrake Linux machine .My RDBMS is 
> PostgreSQL.
> I have written a simple python script which calls a zsql method whicg
> returns a ResultSet which has 5000 Records.
> Now I am readig from the ResultSet and writing the values to an array
> (tuple) .
> But of the 5000 records I am being able to get only 1000 Records in the
> Pytho script .The 4000 other records dont seem to be coming .



From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar  5 12:43:01 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:43:01 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Newbie question about installing modules
In-Reply-To: <LNEHLDAAPLFLFALNMHNAEEJNCBAA.deboer@wisdom.nl>
Message-ID: <0074F469-4F08-11D7-9D25-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

how is anyone supposed to help you if you don't tell us about the error=20=

you see (including full traceback, please) and other relevant data such=20=

as zope version, OS, python version, etc. ?

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 04:30 US/Eastern, Chris de Boer wrote:

> Hi there,
> =A0
> I've just installed Zope and Plone and I'm trying to install=20
> additional modules (like the VisualEditor module).
> It has to be copied to the lib/Python/Products directory. When=20
> restarting the zope server, it generates an error.
> =A0
> I couldn't find any documentation about how to install the module=20
> (other than: "install in the normal way").
> I suppose I have to run some kind of script to install the module=20
> properly.
> =A0
> Any help will be appreciated !!!!!!!
> =A0
> Chris.



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Wed Mar  5 12:48:39 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:48:39 +0000
Subject: [Zope] system down - how to prevent?
In-Reply-To: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGOEHECKAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
References: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGOEHECKAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
Message-ID: <200303051248.39825.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 12:34 pm, Roel Van den Bergh wrote:

> Feb 14 02:54:08 piwebserver Retrospect[27997]: FSGetNodeInfo: lstat failed
> on "/home/zope/2-5-1/var/Data.fs", error 75

errno 75 is EOVERFLOW, which I think is probably related to 2G file limits in 
the backup software.

> a 'load- balancer', a 'client' and a 'server'. Could this be narrowed down
> to two machines?

Or down to one machine. You dont have to put ZEO server and application 
servers on seperate boxes.

> And what if the actual 'ZEO server' goes down?

Today it is a single point of failure, so make sure that one box is well 
engineered.

Keeping a cold standby ZEO server isnt hard, if you dont mind a disaster 
losing a few recent transactions, and causing maybe an hour of downtime while 
you swap the boxes. There are several options for maintaining this 
replica.... Is that what you had in mind?


-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From roel@planetinterior.com  Wed Mar  5 13:21:52 2003
From: roel@planetinterior.com (Roel Van den Bergh)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:21:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] system down - how to prevent?
In-Reply-To: <200303051248.39825.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGEEHGCKAA.roel@planetinterior.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Dickenson [mailto:tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: roel@planetinterior.com; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] system down - how to prevent?
>
>
> On Wednesday 05 March 2003 12:34 pm, Roel Van den Bergh wrote:
>
> > Feb 14 02:54:08 piwebserver Retrospect[27997]: FSGetNodeInfo:
> lstat failed
> > on "/home/zope/2-5-1/var/Data.fs", error 75
>
> errno 75 is EOVERFLOW, which I think is probably related to 2G
> file limits in
> the backup software.

Yes our Data.fs is about 4GB but shouldn't a backup program like retrospect
be able to handle such files?

> > a 'load- balancer', a 'client' and a 'server'. Could this be
> narrowed down
> > to two machines?
>
> Or down to one machine. You dont have to put ZEO server and application
> servers on seperate boxes.

This does not help in case of hardware failure

> > And what if the actual 'ZEO server' goes down?
>
> Today it is a single point of failure, so make sure that one box is well
> engineered.
>
> Keeping a cold standby ZEO server isnt hard, if you dont mind a disaster
> losing a few recent transactions, and causing maybe an hour of
> downtime while
> you swap the boxes. There are several options for maintaining this
> replica.... Is that what you had in mind?
>

What do you mean by 'cold', how can you maintain an exact copy of the
Data.fs on another machine if that system isn't turned on and connected to
the original server.
Our hardware is located 30 km from here in a secured place.

And yes, swapping boxes is an option I had in mind.

Like bying two equal high-end servers with hot-swappable disks and in
emergencies moving the disks from one machine to the other. But my boss
hasn't got the money :-(

> --
> Toby Dickenson
> http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson
>




From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar  5 13:32:45 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:32:45 -0500
Subject: Fwd: [Zope] Newbie question about installing modules
Message-ID: <F2B8BC44-4F0E-11D7-9D25-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

please keep this on the list.

the message you wanted to attach is not there.

jens


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Chris de Boer" <deboer@wisdom.nl>
> Date: Wed Mar 5, 2003  08:07:13 US/Eastern
> To: "Jens Vagelpohl" <jens@zope.com>
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Newbie question about installing modules
>
> Jens,
>
> Ok, you're right (I told you I was a newbie :-) )
> I've attached the errormessage as a gif.
> I'm using:
> Windows2000
> Zope 2.5.1
> Plone
>
> After starting the zope server, the attached message is shown. The=20
> server
> does start up and I can access both zope and plone.
> However, I can't seem to find the Visual Editor functionality=20
> (although I'm
> not quite sure where to look :-)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Chris/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jens Vagelpohl [mailto:jens@zope.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:43 PM
> To: Chris de Boer
> Cc: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie question about installing modules
>
>
> how is anyone supposed to help you if you don't tell us about the =
error
> you see (including full traceback, please) and other relevant data =
such
> as zope version, OS, python version, etc. ?
>
> jens
>
>
> On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 04:30 US/Eastern, Chris de Boer wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> =A0
>> I've just installed Zope and Plone and I'm trying to install
>> additional modules (like the VisualEditor module).
>> It has to be copied to the lib/Python/Products directory. When
>> restarting the zope server, it generates an error.
>> =A0
>> I couldn't find any documentation about how to install the module
>> (other than: "install in the normal way").
>> I suppose I have to run some kind of script to install the module
>> properly.
>> =A0
>> Any help will be appreciated !!!!!!!
>> =A0
>> Chris.
>



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Mar  5 13:47:50 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:47:50 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E6595B6.4020200@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F4@AUHEXCH> <3E6595B6.4020200@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <20030305134750.GA5143@slinkp.com>

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:14:14AM -0600, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> Although benchmarks are a very small part of the story as far as I'm 
> concerned, there is a need for such numbers. I think I'll try to find 
> time Thursday to do some tests with the usual suspects (at least so far 
> as my work is concerned): Zope, Apache, Tomcat, Jetty, and maybe a 
> little JBoss.
> 
> The results will certainly be published.

yay!
one request: please don't do anything that skeptics can point
to and say e.g. "but zope wasn't serving as much data".
there were a number of comparisons on the BwanaZulia page
where zope had a slight advantage in terms of bytes delivered.
It may seem trivial, but marketing zope vs. java-app-server-X 
is an uphill battle, so every little bit matters.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Wed Mar  5 13:53:42 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:53:42 +0000
Subject: [Zope] system down - how to prevent?
In-Reply-To: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGEEHGCKAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
References: <DDEBLEOGFBPAOJPIHNFGEEHGCKAA.roel@planetinterior.com>
Message-ID: <200303051353.42077.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 1:21 pm, Roel Van den Bergh wrote:

> Like bying two equal high-end servers with hot-swappable disks and in
> emergencies moving the disks from one machine to the other. But my boss
> hasn't got the money :-(

If you want redundancy then you will need two copies of your hardware. The 
secondary system can be lower spec (in reliability, but not capacity), 
because you will only be using it while the main system is down. 

If you dont have easy physical access to the machines then Im not sure hot 
swap disks are a great advantage. An online replication scheme would allow 
you to switch remotely. There are scripts to do this for FileStorage (I/O 
intensive, and hairy) and DirectoryStorage (still in beta release), and Zope 
Corp have a commercial product.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar  5 14:00:22 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:00:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <20030305134750.GA5143@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <CE9227B4-4F12-11D7-9D25-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

IMHO it is much more useful to have a more complete set of data, even 
if it shows shortcomings, than to have a "redacted" set that leaves out 
some not-so-good areas.

marketing is good, but we are not micro$haft, after all. i don't think 
we have to stoop to that level of "being economical with the truth".

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 08:47 US/Eastern, Paul Winkler wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:14:14AM -0600, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
>> Although benchmarks are a very small part of the story as far as I'm
>> concerned, there is a need for such numbers. I think I'll try to find
>> time Thursday to do some tests with the usual suspects (at least so 
>> far
>> as my work is concerned): Zope, Apache, Tomcat, Jetty, and maybe a
>> little JBoss.
>>
>> The results will certainly be published.
>
> yay!
> one request: please don't do anything that skeptics can point
> to and say e.g. "but zope wasn't serving as much data".
> there were a number of comparisons on the BwanaZulia page
> where zope had a slight advantage in terms of bytes delivered.
> It may seem trivial, but marketing zope vs. java-app-server-X
> is an uphill battle, so every little bit matters.
>
> -- 
>
> Paul Winkler



From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Wed Mar  5 14:31:57 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:31:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to change default method for calling object from the web?
In-Reply-To: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost>
References: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost>
Message-ID: <200303051531.57928.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 13:26, Lubos Culen wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I have a problem:
>
> Let's assume I have object 'obj' and its method 'view' . So, calling the
> object 'obj' from web URL (e.g. 'www.mysite.com/path/obj' ) will display
> content of 'obj'. Calling 'www.mysite.com/path/obj/view' will call method
> 'view' of the object 'obj'.
>
> Now I want that the method 'view' should be DEFAULT method for the object
> 'obj', so calling 'www.mysite.com/path/obj' should automatically call the
> method 'view' of object 'obj'. Is it possible to do in Zope and how?

Just call your method 'index_html' instead of 'view'.

Thierry

-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From stefan@epy.co.at  Wed Mar  5 14:39:06 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:39:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to change default method for calling object from the
 web?
In-Reply-To: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost>
References: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost>
Message-ID: <4254450750.1046878746@[172.16.8.4]>

In the class of 'obj' define the method

  def __browser_default__(self, REQUEST):
      return self, ('view',)

HTH,
Stefan


--On Mittwoch, 05. M=E4rz 2003 13:26 +0100 Lubos Culen <mirsoft@gmx.net>=20
wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I have a problem:
>
> Let's assume I have object 'obj' and its method 'view' . So, calling the
> object 'obj' from web URL (e.g. 'www.mysite.com/path/obj' ) will display
> content of 'obj'. Calling 'www.mysite.com/path/obj/view' will call method
> 'view' of the object 'obj'.
>
> Now I want that the method 'view' should be DEFAULT method for the object
> 'obj', so calling 'www.mysite.com/path/obj' should automatically call the
> method 'view' of object 'obj'. Is it possible to do in Zope and how?
>
> --
> Regards, Mirsoft
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From mas@semafor.ch  Wed Mar  5 14:42:44 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:42:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...
Message-ID: <3E660CE4.4050103@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

I don't get that...
Where does Zope store all the files?
Is ist possible to say Zope where it should keep my files?
Where is the database stored?
Can I connect to the Zope database with a mysql-client?


Thanks for every answer!

    Sorin Marti



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Mar  5 15:09:55 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:09:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...
In-Reply-To: <3E660CE4.4050103@semafor.ch>
References: <3E660CE4.4050103@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <20030305150955.GA5753@slinkp.com>

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 03:42:44PM +0100, Sorin Marti wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I don't get that...
> Where does Zope store all the files?

This is a frequently asked question, but I don't know of an actual FAQ
to point you to :(

By default zope puts all your data in var/Data.fs in your zope
installation directory. this location varies depending on how you
installed zope.  It's an object database, the objects in
zope are not files.

> Is ist possible to say Zope where it should keep my files?
> Where is the database stored?

see above.

> Can I connect to the Zope database with a mysql-client?

no. it's an object database, not a relational database.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Wed Mar  5 16:06:20 2003
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] VHM, siteroot, et. al.
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3122@SRV-03>

If I run three sites at-
 
	www.mydomain.com
	intranet.mydomain.com
	extranet.mydomain.com

And I map them to the following locations in my Zope using either VHM or
siteroot-

	/www
	/intranet
	/extranet

Will I still be able to accquire objects in the root container? For example,
a shared database connection?


From muldrow@mac.com  Wed Mar  5 16:12:40 2003
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:12:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] VHM, siteroot, et. al.
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3122@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <BA8B8C28.A46C%muldrow@mac.com>

On 3/5/03 11:06 AM, "jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com"
<jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com> wrote:

> If I run three sites at-
> 
> www.mydomain.com
> intranet.mydomain.com
> extranet.mydomain.com
> 
> And I map them to the following locations in my Zope using either VHM or
> siteroot-
> 
> /www
> /intranet
> /extranet
> 
> Will I still be able to accquire objects in the root container? For example,
> a shared database connection?
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
Yep. You can acquire all the way up and use dtml-with to grab things in one
of the other sites. We use this to put news stories from one organization
onto the site of another--they're VHM'd.



From fluxent@yahoo.com  Wed Mar  5 16:07:22 2003
From: fluxent@yahoo.com (Bill Seitz)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:07:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] zope crashes on first hit
In-Reply-To: <3E652FF8.5080505@reidmcmahon.com>
Message-ID: <20030305160722.87912.qmail@web14101.mail.yahoo.com>

Well, there's certainly space for them.

How can I test whether the process can create/write
them, without being able to do any through-the-web
management?

I just hit/crashed the zope process. Now here's the
list of files modified in the last 14 days:

data.fs      Mar3 13MB
Z2.pid       Mar4 1k
data.fs.tmp  Mar5 0k
data.fs.lock Mar5 1k

Strangely, z2.log (480kb) says last mod Jan7. But if I
look at its contents in a text editor, I see at the
end:
* hits from Feb5
* then 292 NULL bytes
* then 40 lines of DTML (starts and stops in the
middle of lines, not clean) from a page that I was
working which was broken and never got around to
fixing

Should I delete any of these files and start again?

--- Steve McMahon <steve@reidmcmahon.com> wrote:
> Check your log files. Can the zope process create
> and write them? Have 
> you space available for them? Zope is dying as it
> tries to flush the log.
> 
> Bill Seitz wrote:
> > All the sudden my zope (v2.5.1 running on Win98)
> is
> > crashing while processing its first hit. This
> seems
> > true regardless of the URL requests (manage,
> > manage_main, index_html), though it's possible I'm
> > getting 1 hit sometimes before it dies.
> > 

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From m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de  Wed Mar  5 16:19:22 2003
From: m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de (Matthias =?utf-8?q?H=C3=B6rtzsch?=)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:19:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Adding content to document types
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F9@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F9@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <200303051719.22841.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>

Am Mittwoch, 5. M=C3=A4rz 2003 11:34 schrieb Samir Mishra:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm adding documents & scripts to a folder using -
>     context.manage_addDTMLMethod("index_html", "Index") #document name &
> title
> etc.
>
> These documents are created with default body content.
>
> My question is - how do I access/add to/replace the content that is
> inserted into the documents by default? For example, I'd like to insert
> dynamically generated code into Python scripts, or into the DTML document
> using properties defined within the folder.

Have a look into the API Docs, there are methods you can use to replace the=
=20
content.

=46or DTML methods / documents -> manage_edit(data, title)

for Python scripts -> ZPythonScript_edit(params, body)

hth

Matthias

>
> TIA.
>
> Samir.
>
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From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar  5 16:19:13 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:19:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] VHM, siteroot, et. al.
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3122@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <34325E28-4F26-11D7-ADC5-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

yes

i think just trying that out would have taken you less time than it 
took you to write this email.

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 11:06 US/Eastern, 
jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:

> If I run three sites at-
>
> 	www.mydomain.com
> 	intranet.mydomain.com
> 	extranet.mydomain.com
>
> And I map them to the following locations in my Zope using either VHM 
> or
> siteroot-
>
> 	/www
> 	/intranet
> 	/extranet
>
> Will I still be able to accquire objects in the root container? For 
> example,
> a shared database connection?
>
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From mirsoft@gmx.net  Wed Mar  5 16:23:34 2003
From: mirsoft@gmx.net (Lubos Culen)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 17:23:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Including proper object from subfolders
Message-ID: <oprlkk5ksjuiqpjm@localhost>

Hello!

Yet one problem (resulted from my low knowledge of Zope):

Let's assume we have following files in following directory structure (for 
example on www.site.com server):

site/index_html 			(DTML document)
site/content 			(DTML document, plain HTML)
site/standard_html_header 	(DTML document)
site/subdirectory1/content 	(DTML document, plain HTML)
site/subdirectory2/content 	(DTML document, plain HTML)
site/subdirectoryN/content	(DTML document, plain HTML)

'index_html' file has for example this content:
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var content>

In 'standard_html_header' is some site header (not important for us), and 
'content' in each folder is some static HTML content.

Now I'd like to achieve this: when user accesses the 
'http://www.site.com/site/subdirectory1/' , he will get displayed the 
common header and the content of 'site/subdirectory1/content' file. If he 
accesses 'http://www.site.com/site/subdirectory2/' , he will get displayed 
the common header and the content of 'site/subdirectory2/content' file etc. 
If he accesses site root 'http://www.site.com/site/', he will get displayed 
header and content in 'site/content'.

This would work without problem, if the 'site/content' file would be moved 
to some subdirectory 'e.g. site/index/content' - but I would like to leave 
this file in the perent folder and get the content from subfolders only by 
enhancing index_html for some function - and this function I don't know.

So, the index_html should look somehow like this:
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var "##get_folder_where_the_request_came_from##.content">

- simply said, I need something which I can replace 
##get_folder_where_the_request_came_from## with, to make it work :). Is 
there some object or function, which will return the object of folder of 
current site request to help with this?

Thanks a lot for any answer!

-- 
Regards, Mirsoft


From paul@slinkp.com  Wed Mar  5 16:38:45 2003
From: paul@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:38:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...
In-Reply-To: <3E661F7B.7020705@semafor.ch>
References: <3E660CE4.4050103@semafor.ch> <20030305150955.GA5753@slinkp.com> <3E661F7B.7020705@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <20030305163845.GB5753@slinkp.com>

please keep the replies on the mailing list...

On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 05:02:03PM +0100, Sorin Marti wrote:
> That means for a backup I only have to backup this file?
> When for example my system crashes and my harddisk too (that happended 
> this morning :-( ), I only have to setup a new Zope environment and 
> replace the new Data.fs with the new one?

Yes, exactly.
Good idea to back it up every so often - you don't have to shut
down zope to do so, just do something like 
cp Data.fs /somewhere/Data.fs.backup.some_date 

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From muldrow@mac.com  Wed Mar  5 16:56:43 2003
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:56:43 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...
In-Reply-To: <20030305163845.GB5753@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <BA8B967B.A47F%muldrow@mac.com>

Here's a backup procedure on Zope.org:

http://www.zope.org/Members/jrush/howto_rsync_zope



From ed@greengraphics.net  Thu Mar  6 01:12:00 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:12:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Hi fellow zope hackers!

I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
to post form data to a master server.

Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?

So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
the return data.  Is this the best way?

Thanks for the help!

-ed-

-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Wed Mar  5 17:18:38 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:18:38 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...
In-Reply-To: <BA8B967B.A47F%muldrow@mac.com>
References: <BA8B967B.A47F%muldrow@mac.com>
Message-ID: <200303051718.38442.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Wednesday 05 March 2003 4:56 pm, Chris Muldrow wrote:
> Here's a backup procedure on Zope.org:
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/jrush/howto_rsync_zope

That process is very dangerous. Your backup can be trashed if something goes 
wrong mid-rsync, or soon after the rsync. Also, rsync sometimes aborts if the 
file is changed while it is processing it, with insufficient guarantees about 
the state of the file it leaves behind.

I recommend:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2002-October/003418.html

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From felix@chaptereight.com  Wed Mar  5 17:06:10 2003
From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean)
Date: 05 Mar 2003 17:06:10 +0000
Subject: [Zope] squirting variable definitions into macros using fill-slot
Message-ID: <m2fzq168vx.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>

I have a macro like this:

<metal:block define-macro="conf_form">
  <div class="something"
       tal:define="chosen_thing request/chosen_thing|here/chosen_thing;
                   the_name     request/the_name|here/the_name">

    <input type="radio"
           tal:attributes="name the_name;
                           checked python:chosen_thing=='a' or nothing;"
           value="a" /> a <br />
    <input type="radio"
           tal:attributes="name the_name
                           checked python:chosen_thing=='b' or nothing;"
           value="b" /> b <br />
  </div>
</metal:block>

I will be using it several times from the same template.  I want to be
able to pass in values for chosen_thing and the_name, but I can't
think how.

If I define a slot, e.g. for the <div>, the stuff in fill-slot will
replace all the stuff in the macro.  Alternatively, I could use
fill-slot and a 'global' definition, but then I wouldn't be able to
use it more than once.

Am I just being dumb here?  It must be possible to pass in dynamic
information using fill-slot.

Thanks for any advice,

Felix.



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar  5 17:54:27 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 09:54:27 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Help Needed - Case for Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E6595B6.4020200@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F4@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030305093712.01d86958@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 10:14 PM 3/4/2003, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
>>I think showing Zope to be faster than Tomcat,
>>as the numbers indicate, will be difficult to support, especially since I
>>don't believe it myself.
>
>Although benchmarks are a very small part of the story as far as I'm 
>concerned, there is a need for such numbers.

Indeed.  Zope is a decent enough performer in benchmark testing and we 
should know where it stands.  But the real case for Zope is not its speed 
as a server, but its speed as a development platform.

You can increase performance speed easily enough... get faster hardware, a 
bigger pipe, more caching, a reverse proxy, do load balancing.  It doesn't 
take a heck of a lot to build a world-class service *around* Zope.

Where Zope shines is in time to market and ease of maintenance.  It's going 
to be tough to give a precise benchmark on how much faster it is to build 
something in Zope than it is in J2EE or Jboss.  But it is appreciably 
faster, perhaps by an order of magnitude.  Developer time and support 
resources just aren't things most shops can come up with as easily as cash 
for hardware.

The learning curve is shorter too.  If you're a moderately experienced 
developer, you can pick up 90% of Python in a day or two.  I've never heard 
that said about Java... at least not with a straight face.  :-)

Perhaps the best way to make a case for Zope is to prototype 
something.  Give yourself a little time to do some reading up front, but 
then just rip into something.  In many ways Zope is a 
gotta-see-it-to-believe-it proposition.  Lots of platforms claim to make 
things easy... but the proof is in doing something nontrivial.  In the time 
it takes to evaluate Zope and measure it against other platforms you could 
almost be done with a rough prototype of your system.

HTH,

Dylan



From scott.pierce@sonopress.com  Wed Mar  5 18:53:24 2003
From: scott.pierce@sonopress.com (Scott Pierce)
Date: 05 Mar 2003 13:53:24 -0500
Subject: [Zope] DCOracle2 and processes
Message-ID: <1046890404.24920.206.camel@goose.sonopress.com>

This might be a database connection/zope thing or specifically a
DCOracle2 thing but here goes.

When creating a product I generally create a 'SQL' directory and
programatically within the product initialization add zsqlmethods to the
directory.

Then within the product I will reference the SQL directory with a
getattr.  Early on I was doing this where ever necessary vs. putting it
in the __init__ and referencing it from the class.  Doing the former
causes an Oracle connection for each time it is referenced.

So if I have a method within a class called by a DMTL page that does
something like:
sqlF = getattr(self, 'SQL')
then
sqlf.runazsqlmethod()

A process is created with an Oracle connection each time the page is
hit.  I have moved these into the __init__ like so:
self.sqlF = getattr(self, 'SQL')

then:
self.sqlF.runazsqlmethod()
w/out this problem and that makes sense.  However, I would still like to
get some idea why the connections get created just referencing it the
way I previously had it.

Any insights?

-- 
Scott Pierce <scott.pierce@sonopress.com>
Sonopress LLC



From evan@4-am.com  Wed Mar  5 19:21:21 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:21:21 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: squirting variable definitions into macros using fill-slot
In-Reply-To: <m2fzq168vx.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
References: <m2fzq168vx.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
Message-ID: <3E664E31.9030700@4-am.com>

Felix Ulrich-Oltean wrote:
> I have a macro
...
> I will be using it several times from the same template.  I want to be
> able to pass in values for chosen_thing and the_name, but I can't
> think how.

You can do this as follows:

<!-- macro def -->
<div tal:define="chosen_thing request/chosen_thing|here/chosen_thing;
                  the_name     request/the_name|here/the_name">
<metal:block define-macro="conf_form">
     <input type="radio"
            tal:attributes="name the_name;
                            checked python:chosen_thing=='a' or nothing;"
            value="a" /> a <br />
     <input type="radio"
            tal:attributes="name the_name;
                            checked python:chosen_thing=='b' or nothing;"
            value="b" /> b <br />
</metal:block>

<!-- macro use -->
<div tal:define="chosen_thing some_value;
                  the_name     some_other_value">
<metal:block use-macro="template/macros/conf_form">
</div>

If you wanted to look in 'request' and 'here' if the template doesn't 
supply the value, put the <div> back inside the macro definition, but 
change the defines to 'the_name | request/the_name | here/the_name'.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar  5 19:31:20 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:31:20 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Adding content to document types
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F9@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0F9@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <3E665088.50106@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm adding documents & scripts to a folder using -
>    context.manage_addDTMLMethod("index_html", "Index") #document name &
>title
>etc.
>
>These documents are created with default body content.
>
>My question is - how do I access/add to/replace the content that is inserted
>into the documents by default? For example, I'd like to insert dynamically
>generated code into Python scripts, or into the DTML document using
>properties defined within the folder.
>  
>
The manage_addXXX methods generally have a parameter that you can set 
for content (although this is not always shown in the generated API docs.)

For DTMLMethods, for instance, you can see in the source 
(lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py) a function definition

def addDTMLMethod(self, id, title='', file='', REQUEST=None, submit=None):
    """Add a DTML Method object with the contents of file. If
    'file' is empty, default document text is used.
    """

which is used as 'manage_addDTMLMethod()' (this is defined in some 
__init__.py). So if you say

data = "I am the new content. Woo hoo."
context.manage_addDTMLMethod("index_html", "Index", data) # document 
name & title

you will create an index_html titled "Index" with the content "I am the 
new content. Woo hoo."

          --jcc



From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:10:10 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:10:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups and CMF not working
In-Reply-To: <6B3B0F8E.20CE9D60.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <6B3B0F8E.20CE9D60.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <15974.19346.304158.694148@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

baiewola@netscape.net wrote at 2003-3-4 14:57 -0500:
 > ...
 > There's nothing at all in my logs about CMF, but here's what the log has to say abut NuxUserGroups:
 >   File /zopedirectory/lib/python/Products/NuxUserGroups/CatalogToolWithGroups.py, line 17, in ?
 >     (Object: rolesForPermissionOn)
 > ImportError: No module named CMFCore.CatalogTool

Can you check what code you find in line 17 of "CatalogToolWithGroups.py".
It should read somehow like "Products.CMFCore.CatalogTool".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:52:01 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:52:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Including proper object from subfolders
In-Reply-To: <oprlkk5ksjuiqpjm@localhost>
References: <oprlkk5ksjuiqpjm@localhost>
Message-ID: <15974.21857.670039.254864@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lubos Culen wrote at 2003-3-5 17:23 +0100:
 > ....
 > Let's assume we have following files in following directory structure (for 
 > example on www.site.com server):
 > 
 > site/index_html 			(DTML document)
 > site/content 			(DTML document, plain HTML)
 > site/standard_html_header 	(DTML document)
 > site/subdirectory1/content 	(DTML document, plain HTML)
 > site/subdirectory2/content 	(DTML document, plain HTML)
 > site/subdirectoryN/content	(DTML document, plain HTML)
 > 
 > 'index_html' file has for example this content:
 > <dtml-var standard_html_header>
 > <dtml-var content>
 > 
 > In 'standard_html_header' is some site header (not important for us), and 
 > 'content' in each folder is some static HTML content.
 > 
 > Now I'd like to achieve this: when user accesses the 
 > 'http://www.site.com/site/subdirectory1/' , he will get displayed the 
 > common header and the content of 'site/subdirectory1/content' file.

This is what happens by default, *if* "index_html" is a DTML Method.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:43:38 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:43:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] sending a post request to a secure site (paypal) from a python script/external method
In-Reply-To: <AAEKJCEJLELMLOCENMHMEEPOCAAA.richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com>
References: <AAEKJCEJLELMLOCENMHMEEPOCAAA.richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com>
Message-ID: <15974.21354.545867.545769@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Richard Ettema wrote at 2003-3-5 11:47 -0000:
 > ....
 > I have looked thru the examples in the urllib.py and urllib2.py but could
 > not work out where I am going wrong, or if it is possible.

It is possible.

 > I have seen comments about python must be built/installed with ssl support
 > for secure connections to https urls, how do I work out if python was
 > built/installed with this?

I do not know but I would find out by looking at the HTTPS support
in "httplib", i.e. look at its source.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:16:43 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:16:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Customize the ZMI
In-Reply-To: <F82FKdVdXuYFyKqACjO00020300@hotmail.com>
References: <F82FKdVdXuYFyKqACjO00020300@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15974.19739.128166.385225@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Michael Havard wrote at 2003-3-4 17:14 +0000:
 > What files can be edited to change the ZMI. Does this have to be done from 
 > the file system or can it be done from within the ZMI itself.
 > 
 > I want to be able to change some of the styling, logo, label placement, etc.

They live in "dtml" subdirectories for the various Zope packages,
e.g. "OFS/dtml" (for the primary site building object types",
"App/dtml" for application management, "AccessControl/dtml" for
security related pages....

Currently, you must customize at the file system level.
But you can design your templates differently....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:44:20 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:44:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to change default method for calling object from the web?
In-Reply-To: <200303051531.57928.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost>
 <200303051531.57928.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <15974.21396.26188.309794@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-5 15:31 +0100:
 > On Wednesday 05 March 2003 13:26, Lubos Culen wrote:
 > ...
 > Just call your method 'index_html' instead of 'view'.

Or let it acquire "index_html" which calls "view".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:19:19 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:19:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] custom authentication
In-Reply-To: <1046815028.18949.108.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>
References: <1046790333.18949.80.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>
 <15972.63613.180789.274699@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1046815028.18949.108.camel@aslan.its.bethel.edu>
Message-ID: <15974.19895.467898.594802@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Andrew Altepeter wrote at 2003-3-4 15:57 -0600:
 > ...
 > > Have a look at CookieCrumber (as an example).
 > 
 > Ok, I see.  It seems that exUserFolder is an incomplete product then,
 > since it does not override the unauthorized method.  As such, it cannot
 > prevent Basic auth's from slipping through unannounced...?
 > __________
 > Looking in CookieCrumbler.py, I see that the __call__ method replaces
 > the response.unauth methods.  But when I try to do that, I get a
 > complaint from zope:
 >   File "/usr/local/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py", line
 > 662, in exception
 >     self._unauthorized()
 > TypeError: unbound Python method must be called with PortalUserFolder
 > 1st argument
 > ----------
 > ....
 > HTTPResponse.unauthorized = PortalUserFolder.unauthorized

You have set it to a class method (more precisely, an
"unbound method instance"). To help prevent trivial
programming errors, they check that an object of the
correct type is passed in.

You get the underlying function through the "im_func" pseudo
attribute. Thus, you use

   HTTPResponse.unauthorized = PortalUserFolder.unauthorized.im_func


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:37:48 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:37:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] dynamically generated TAL not being interpreted
In-Reply-To: <20030305041834.GG4452@cise.ufl.edu>
References: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu>
 <15971.45950.565229.839572@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <20030305041834.GG4452@cise.ufl.edu>
Message-ID: <15974.21004.769416.572350@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

N. Thomas wrote at 2003-3-4 23:18 -0500:
 > * Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> [2003-03-03 20:56:46 +0100]:
 > > N. Thomas wrote at 2003-3-1 23:46 -0500:
 > > > We have a script that generates TAL. The problem is that the content
 > > > is not being interpeted as TAL by Zope, but rather as raw HTML.
 > > 
 > > You must make a Page Template object from your TAL source code, wrap
 > > it in an appropriate context (--> "__of__") and return it (or call it
 > > to let it render).
 > > 
 > > You can do this only in an External Method (or other filesystem based
 > > code).
 > 
 > Well, this was a start in the right direction. But after wading through
 > the archives, the nearest solution I can cruft together is an external
 > method like this:
 > 
 >     from Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate import ZopePageTemplate
 > 
 >     def talgen():
 > 
 >         zptstr = \
 >     """
 >     <html>
 >     <body>
 >     If properlu rendered,
 >     this sentence <b tal:omit-tag="">should contain no tags.</b>
 >     </body>
 >     </html>
 >     """ 
 > 
 >         zptid = 'foobar'
 >         z = ZopePageTemplate(id=zptid, text=zptstr, content_type="text/html")
 >         return z
 > 
 > But this returns an error, probably because I'm stabbing in the dark.

Because, you did not do the "__of__" magic...

And, please remember, read error messages (Error Type, Error Values *AND*
traceback) carefully and report them, if you do not understand them.

 > Also, I have no idea where exactly to stick the "__of__" method. (I did
 > look at the relevant sections in
 > http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html though.)

Hm, you did not find the "__of__" mentioned in the "Name lookup section"?

You use "return z.__of__(self)"

 > My questions:
 > 
 >     Where is the API for Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate
 >     documented?

I am not sure, probably in the embedded online help.

*BUT* you need nothing than the constructor (you already used)
and the "__call__" method (that is trivial).

 >     In Products.PageTemplates, should I use PageTemplate, or
 >     PageTemplateFile, or ZopePageTemplate?

As it is not a file in the file system, you do not use "PageTemplateFile" ;-)

Almost surely, "ZopePageTemplate" is right. "PageTemplate" might
work, too.

 >     In the code above, I see that ZopePageTemplate requires that an id
 >     be passed in, does that mean that I have to create a temporary ZPT
 >     object in the Zope filesystem, return that, and somehow make sure it
 >     is destroyed afterwards? I only passed in 'foobar' because it was
 >     required.

No, unless you use special operations (e.g. "template/absolute_url")
what you probably do not do.

 > Also, if anyone could point me to a fragment of code that does something
 > similar it would be much appreciated.

You are very near :-)

I trust you that you will write a HowTo about dynamic generation
of TAL code, once you solved your problem ;-)


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:23:44 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:23:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope crashes on first hit
In-Reply-To: <20030304223510.63646.qmail@web14105.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030304223510.63646.qmail@web14105.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15974.20160.299650.872648@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bill Seitz wrote at 2003-3-4 14:35 -0800:
 > All the sudden my zope (v2.5.1 running on Win98) is
 > crashing while processing its first hit. This seems
 > true regardless of the URL requests (manage,
 > manage_main, index_html), though it's possible I'm
 > getting 1 hit sometimes before it dies.
 > ....
 > 2003-03-04T18:50:21 ERROR(200) ZServer uncaptured
 > python exception, closing channel
 > <ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_channel connected
 > 127.0.0.1:1247 at 0x1d59b2c channel#: 0 requests:>
 > (exceptions.IOError:[Errno 9] Bad file descriptor

It looks as if your socket library ("winsock") would no longer
work correctly. Maybe, you can check this.

 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py|poll|107]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asyncore.py|handle_write_event|398]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asynchat.py|handle_write|146]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asynchat.py|initiate_send|208]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\asynchat.py|refill_buffer|195]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\Producers.py|more|36]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\http_server.py|log|289]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|log|247]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|log|77]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|write|53]
 > [D:\Zope\WebSeitz\ZServer\medusa\logger.py|maybe_flush|65])

It wants to write some message to the log file and cannot.
Check, why.
Maybe, the file is corrupted or can not be written at for
other reasons.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar  5 19:26:34 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:26:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Acquisition of the View permission
In-Reply-To: <20030304223912.GB17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
References: <20030304213401.GA17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
 <20030304223912.GB17059@helga.granfalloon.com>
Message-ID: <15974.20330.460370.820064@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Caleb Land wrote at 2003-3-4 17:39 -0500:
 > ...
 > If that's the case, then what would be a good way to achieve my original goal?
 > (restricting access to an acquired source based on context (in this case
 > index_html))

????

You told us that "index_html" must be viewable (you did not tell us why).

If this is the case, you can protect the objects "index_html"
accesses doing its work and thus get context sensitive protection.

You would probably control the "Access contents information" for
this purpose.


Dieter


From fluxent@yahoo.com  Wed Mar  5 22:15:12 2003
From: fluxent@yahoo.com (Bill Seitz)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 14:15:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] zope crashes on first hit
In-Reply-To: <15974.20160.299650.872648@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030305221512.80246.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com>

I moved z2.log, z2.pid, data.fs.tmp, and data.fs.lock
to a subfolder, then started up again.

Now things work fine.

Except I seem to have lost all changes since 4 months
ago.

Ugh. Any ideas?

--- Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> wrote:
> Bill Seitz wrote at 2003-3-4 14:35 -0800:
>  > All the sudden my zope (v2.5.1 running on Win98)
> is
>  > crashing while processing its first hit. This
> seems
>  > true regardless of the URL requests (manage,
>  > manage_main, index_html), though it's possible
> I'm
>  > getting 1 hit sometimes before it dies.
>  > ....
>  > 2003-03-04T18:50:21 ERROR(200) ZServer uncaptured
>  > python exception, closing channel
>  > <ZServer.HTTPServer.zhttp_channel connected
>  > 127.0.0.1:1247 at 0x1d59b2c channel#: 0
> requests:>
>  > (exceptions.IOError:[Errno 9] Bad file descriptor
> 
> It looks as if your socket library ("winsock") would
> no longer
> work correctly. Maybe, you can check this.
> 
>  >

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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar  5 22:46:02 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 14:46:02 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <3E667E2A.9070202@neurobs.com>

Unless the other server returns to a page on your site, the only thing 
you can probably do is to use and external method that uses something 
like wget/lynx to post the data and get somthing back to be parsed by 
the method.

hth
AM

Ed Colmar wrote:

>Hi fellow zope hackers!
>
>I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
>zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
>to post form data to a master server.
>
>Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
>data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
>
>So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
>the return data.  Is this the best way?
>
>Thanks for the help!
>
>-ed-
>
>  
>


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From ed@greengraphics.net  Thu Mar  6 07:08:45 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:08:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <3E667E2A.9070202@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303052306410.7633-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Hi AM and zope cru!

Here is the quick external method I built to do this...

If anyone is familiar with urllib and can tell me if I need to do
something different I'd appreciate it!

def formsender(self, completeurl):
    """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an external
    server

    completeurl is the entire url including form field values."""
    import urllib
    result = urllib.URLopener().open(completeurl)
    urllib.URLopener().close()



On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, AM wrote:

> Unless the other server returns to a page on your site, the only thing
> you can probably do is to use and external method that uses something
> like wget/lynx to post the data and get somthing back to be parsed by
> the method.
>
> hth
> AM
>
> Ed Colmar wrote:
>
> >Hi fellow zope hackers!
> >
> >I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
> >zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
> >to post form data to a master server.
> >
> >Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
> >data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
> >
> >So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
> >the return data.  Is this the best way?
> >
> >Thanks for the help!
> >
> >-ed-
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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From mehmety@carramar.auslin.com.au  Thu Mar  6 11:09:04 2003
From: mehmety@carramar.auslin.com.au (Mehmet Yousouf)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:04 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
Message-ID: <20030306.UHQ.29109800@carramar.auslin.com.au>

Hello all,

I'm trying to generate a page to print and felt the best way is to conver=
t it to pdf
format.
The information is on a database (mysql) and when I use <dtml-in printinf=
o> in the
page, it renders the dtml page ok and by putting /html2pdf at the end of =
the url, it
creates the pdf file.
However, if the dtml-in command is passed a variable (<dtml-in
"printinfo(nameid=3D"SESSION['nameid']">), the dtml form renders fine but=
 the pdf file
will not be generated by it.

I have tried sorting after the dtml-in command but the same story, even d=
oing a
<dtml-var "SESSION[nameid']"> while zope renders it, will not get convert=
ed to
pdf..... if I save the file and use hmtldoc -f nameid.pdf nameid.html --w=
ebpage, it
works.

Any suggestions how I can resolve this problem?

Regards, Mehmet



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Thu Mar  6 00:32:28 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:32:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <3E653B8D.5070203@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEMECKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Andy McKay wrote:
> It has that attribute but as part of Script (Python) security you cannot
> assign to it. eg: try this Script (Python)
>
> script.title = 'Foo'
>
> Not sure that it really provides more security than annoyance, but the
> idea is you have to call a function or use an API for that object.
>

Thanks for explaining. I suspected it but it didn't seem consistent with the
fact that I could modify a literal attribute passed to a PythonScript. I had
some hope to just be missing the right syntax to do it.

But is there any function to work with the record object?? I don't even know
what's its class. Can I add my own functions?

Regards,

Fernando



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Thu Mar  6 00:32:29 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:32:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <20030305005607.GI3495@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEMFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Paul Winkler wrote:
>
> question is, why do you need  to modify it in the script anyway?
> just do foo = Fields.afield and do whatever w/ foo.
>

I've two forms who pass a similar record to their scripts. Each script does
its own processing, "normalising" the record. The record is then passed to
another script which does common processing and final storage in a table.

Of course, I can pass each field individually to the final script but with a
lot of fields it gets ugly. I also can't create classes in a PythonScript,
so it's quite limited.

Regards,
Fernando



From mail@peterbe.com  Thu Mar  6 00:28:13 2003
From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 00:28:13 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Validating a Date
In-Reply-To: <1046419263.4905.116.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030306002413.020e12a0@mail.grenna.net>

At 02:01 2003-02-28 -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
>Does anyone know of a good module/product/hack that I can feed a date to
>and it will let me know if it's valid or not?
>
>It should check leap years ... end days of the month and the like...

try:
     ok_date = context.ZopeTime('2003/13/13')
     print "Yes, date OK"
except:
     print "No, not OK"

return printed


>Thanks in advance... :-)
>--
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>
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>
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>
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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar  6 00:34:00 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:34:00 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303052306410.7633-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303052306410.7633-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <3E669778.5040304@neurobs.com>

Ed Colmar wrote:

>Hi AM and zope cru!
>
>Here is the quick external method I built to do this...
>
>If anyone is familiar with urllib and can tell me if I need to do
>something different I'd appreciate it!
>
>def formsender(self, completeurl):
>    """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an external
>    server
>
>    completeurl is the entire url including form field values."""
>    import urllib
>    result = urllib.URLopener().open(completeurl)
>    urllib.URLopener().close()
>
>  
>

I suppose this should work. I generally just use

fd = urllib.urlopen(<url>)
fd.close()

In both cases you can send the form data as another set of arguments to 
the open method.
So does it do what you want??

AM

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==================================================================
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==================================================================	
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  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From muldrow@mac.com  Thu Mar  6 01:04:15 2003
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:04:15 -0500
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303052306410.7633-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <8CB0787D-4F6F-11D7-A7D1-000393849E6A@mac.com>

Just a warning about urllib and Zope from previous experience. If 
you're not sure of the reliability of the server that will be receiving 
your urllib requests, be cautious. We used urllib to hit another server 
and experienced really bad hanging and timeout problems. The external 
methods would start hanging and eventually slow Zope to a crawl or a 
stop.

There's a timeoutsocket module for Python that lets you set a timeout 
on a request that's probably worth using even if you do trust the other 
server not to time out on you--you never know what network factors will 
work against you! It's at 
http://www.timo-tasi.org/python/timeoutsocket.py

-- Chris

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 02:08 AM, Ed Colmar wrote:

>
> Hi AM and zope cru!
>
> Here is the quick external method I built to do this...
>
> If anyone is familiar with urllib and can tell me if I need to do
> something different I'd appreciate it!
>
> def formsender(self, completeurl):
>     """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an 
> external
>     server
>
>     completeurl is the entire url including form field values."""
>     import urllib
>     result = urllib.URLopener().open(completeurl)
>     urllib.URLopener().close()
>
>
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, AM wrote:
>
>> Unless the other server returns to a page on your site, the only thing
>> you can probably do is to use and external method that uses something
>> like wget/lynx to post the data and get somthing back to be parsed by
>> the method.
>>
>> hth
>> AM
>>
>> Ed Colmar wrote:
>>
>>> Hi fellow zope hackers!
>>>
>>> I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site 
>>> within
>>> zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that 
>>> requires them
>>> to post form data to a master server.
>>>
>>> Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing 
>>> the
>>> data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
>>>
>>> So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and 
>>> dumps
>>> the return data.  Is this the best way?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help!
>>>
>>> -ed-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> -- 
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>
>
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From fearless_froggie@yahoo.com  Thu Mar  6 01:12:49 2003
From: fearless_froggie@yahoo.com (Fearless Froggie)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:12:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] context of a for loop
Message-ID: <20030306011249.52852.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

When you are going through a for loop, are you in the
context of that for loop variable? Can you drop out of
that for loop context and into the context of the
script?

Example:

If I loop through a list of id's with a for loop and
do something to each of these objects, I get a "You
are not allowed to access editMetadata in this
context". Here's the code (here I'm just changing the
title of each of my items in my list 'id' to 'bob'): 

for item in id:
   item_object = getattr(context, item)
   item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')

But if I do these changes directly, it works fine:

item_object = getattr(context, id[0])
item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')

So I'm guessing that the for loops puts me into
another context. How do I get into the context of the
object I want to edit? I've tried
"context.item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')" and
"container.item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')", but
they didn't work either.

My script in all these cases is my custom skins
directory.

Many thanks for any ideas on this. (And thank you once
again for all the great ideas I've received for my
past emails :)

Rita.

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From myzope@gmx.net  Thu Mar  6 01:48:18 2003
From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:48:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Validating a Date
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030306002413.020e12a0@mail.grenna.net>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030306002413.020e12a0@mail.grenna.net>
Message-ID: <3E66A8E2.9010108@gmx.net>

Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> At 02:01 2003-02-28 -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know of a good module/product/hack that I can feed a date to
>> and it will let me know if it's valid or not?
>>
>> It should check leap years ... end days of the month and the like...
> 
> 
> try:
>     ok_date = context.ZopeTime('2003/13/13')
>     print "Yes, date OK"
> except:
>     print "No, not OK"
> 
> return printed

Nope, ZopeTime(DateTime) is very (too) liberal in what it accepts for 
this purpose:

context.ZopeTime('2002/30/3')

returns "2002/03/30"

cheers,
oliver






From snesbitt@cobaltgroup.com  Thu Mar  6 01:44:20 2003
From: snesbitt@cobaltgroup.com (Nesbitt, Steve)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:44:20 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope vs Twiki - Can someone provide a comparison
Message-ID: <D7E101DCBDDED5119A1000B0D06877E625BC7D@ex-sea-is.cobaltgroup.com>

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I'm expecting a showdown between those who want to standardize on Twiki and
me, who doesn't mind Twiki,  but doesn't want to move away from Zope/Plone.

Can anyone provide a quick overview between the two systems. In particular:
1) What problem space do the two systems address? Are they the same space or
different space?
2) Where does Twiki shine in comparison to Zope (with Plone)
3) What things are hard to do in Twiki that are easy to do in Zope and vice
versa?

I need a compelling argument for not converting my existing site to Twiki.
Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

-steve

Steve Nesbitt
Configuration Manager
The Cobalt Group, Inc.
2200 First Avenue South
Seattle, WA 98134
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From gcw-python@rezidew.net  Thu Mar  6 03:38:58 2003
From: gcw-python@rezidew.net (G. Clifford Williams)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:38:58 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
Message-ID: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>

I'm just starting to work with ZPT (as of today), the first question I have 
is; Is there a way to keep "template/title" from being displayed in the list 
that is generated by the tal:repeate directive?

I'd like to generate a list of links that does not include the index_html 
page.

My second question is: Is there any way to sort the list that's generated?

--The code that I have--

 <title tal:content="template/title">Title</title>
 </head>
 <body>
   <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title">Title</font>
  <UL tal:condition="container/objectValues">
    <LI tal:repeat="item container/objectValues">
          <span tal:replace="item/title">ITEM</span>
    </LI>
  </UL>

thanks in advance



From rlfisher@sprynet.com  Thu Mar  6 04:00:35 2003
From: rlfisher@sprynet.com (Roger Fisher)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:00:35 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Proxies for Z SQL Methods
Message-ID: <NEBBKNGNEHINDBEKOONHCEKJFIAA.rlfisher@sprynet.com>

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there is no "proxy" tab for me to set the Manager permission.  As a
workaround, I execute the document_src in the calling DTML method and pass
the result as a parameter to the Z SQL method.... but I wonder if there is a
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From kedai@kedai.com.my  Thu Mar  6 04:15:55 2003
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:15:55 +0800
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <200303061215.55283.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:12, Ed Colmar wrote:
> Hi fellow zope hackers!
>
> I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site withi=
n
> zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires t=
hem
> to post form data to a master server.
>
> Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
> data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
>
> So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dum=
ps
> the return data.  Is this the best way?
>

have a look at KebasData http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai/KebasData
KebasData grabs data from any accessable url, and you can define ways to =
parse=20
the data returned.  you can use either GET or POST method.

i also make use of timeoutsocket.py, to help limit the "hang" if there's =
any=20
trouble with the other site.  note that the timeout affects all of zope .=
=2E=20
so, take care when setting the timeout. (the default is 15s)

i know get method works great, but has done little test with post method

if you'd like to give it a shot, and report success/failure?

hth
> Thanks for the help!
>
> -ed-



From mehmety@auslin.com.au  Thu Mar  6 05:26:01 2003
From: mehmety@auslin.com.au (Mehmet Yousouf)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:26:01 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
In-Reply-To: <20030306.UHQ.29109800@carramar.auslin.com.au>
References: <20030306.UHQ.29109800@carramar.auslin.com.au>
Message-ID: <3E66DBE9.3000005@carramar.auslin.com.au>

I've found a "solution" to the problem - I created another table in 
mysql and passed the variable to it using dtml-call, then used it as a 
filter in my select statement, it works, but if anyone has a more 
elegant way, I am only too happy to learn.

Regards, Mehmet
Mehmet Yousouf wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I'm trying to generate a page to print and felt the best way is to convert it to pdf
>format.
>The information is on a database (mysql) and when I use <dtml-in printinfo> in the
>page, it renders the dtml page ok and by putting /html2pdf at the end of the url, it
>creates the pdf file.
>However, if the dtml-in command is passed a variable (<dtml-in
>"printinfo(nameid="SESSION['nameid']">), the dtml form renders fine but the pdf file
>will not be generated by it.
>
>I have tried sorting after the dtml-in command but the same story, even doing a
><dtml-var "SESSION[nameid']"> while zope renders it, will not get converted to
>pdf..... if I save the file and use hmtldoc -f nameid.pdf nameid.html --webpage, it
>works.
>
>Any suggestions how I can resolve this problem?
>
>
>  
>




From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 27 05:48:19 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 06:48:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Validating a Date
In-Reply-To: <3E66A8E2.9010108@gmx.net>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030306002413.020e12a0@mail.grenna.net>
 <3E66A8E2.9010108@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <35198723.1048747699@[192.168.0.3]>

If you have a fixed date format, you can split into day,month and year
and pass these as dedicated arguments to the DateTime constructor.
See the DateTime API for details.

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 6. M=E4rz 2003 02:48 +0100 Oliver Bleutgen =
<myzope@gmx.net>=20
wrote:

> Peter Bengtsson wrote:
>> At 02:01 2003-02-28 -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know of a good module/product/hack that I can feed a date =
to
>>> and it will let me know if it's valid or not?
>>>
>>> It should check leap years ... end days of the month and the like...
>>
>>
>> try:
>>     ok_date =3D context.ZopeTime('2003/13/13')
>>     print "Yes, date OK"
>> except:
>>     print "No, not OK"
>>
>> return printed
>
> Nope, ZopeTime(DateTime) is very (too) liberal in what it accepts for
> this purpose:
>
> context.ZopeTime('2002/30/3')
>
> returns "2002/03/30"
>
> cheers,
> oliver
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From zerkani_user_list@snet.net  Thu Mar  6 01:13:10 2003
From: zerkani_user_list@snet.net (Zerkani_user_list)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:13:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: DTML redirect questions
Message-ID: <200303060615.h266Fqdg021903@mta3.snet.net>

I have taken the following line from a python script example and I need to do 
the same thing in DTML.

context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(destination + 
	"?Name=" + parameter)


I was wondering how can I do this in DTML? 

Thanks



From kedai@kedai.com.my  Thu Mar  6 06:16:23 2003
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:16:23 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: DTML redirect questions
In-Reply-To: <200303060615.h266Fqdg021903@mta3.snet.net>
References: <200303060615.h266Fqdg021903@mta3.snet.net>
Message-ID: <200303061416.23525.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Thursday 06 March 2003 09:13, Zerkani_user_list wrote:
> I have taken the following line from a python script example and I need=
 to
> do the same thing in DTML.
>
> context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(destination +
> =09"?Name=3D" + parameter)
>

<dtml-call expr=3D"REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(destination +
 =09'?Name=3D' + parameter)">

=2E. ?

>
> I was wondering how can I do this in DTML?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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From tim@xxvii.net  Thu Mar  6 07:47:06 2003
From: tim@xxvii.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 02:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
Message-ID: <48541845262.20030306024706@Vex.Net>

G. wrote on Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 10:38:58 PM:
> I'd like to generate a list of links that does not include the index_html
> page.

Notice the tal:condition="python:item.getId()<>'index_html'" below.
Also notice the general use of object/title_or_id instead of just
object/title.

> My second question is: Is there any way to sort the list that's generated?

Sort is a bit awkward inside page templates. The sort part of this
code is basically ripped from the API reference in the Zope Book.
It does an insensitive sort on the title, then date.

  <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title_or_id">Title</font>
  <UL tal:condition="container/objectValues"
      tal:define="objects here/objectValues;
                  sort_on python:(('title', 'nocase', 'asc'),
                                  ('bobobase_modification_time', 'cmp', 'desc'));
                  sorted_objects python:sequence.sort(objects, sort_on)">
    <LI tal:repeat="item sorted_objects">
          <span tal:define="i item/title_or_id" 
                tal:condition="python:item.getId()<>'index_html'" 
                tal:replace="i">ITEM</span>
    </LI>
  </UL>

If you're wanting to do anything very complicated with lists, i'd just
write a python script to generate the list the way you want it, then
loop over that.

-- 
Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | "Who is Ungit?" said he, still holding
x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | my hands. --C.S.Lewis (TWHF)
1



From =?Windows-1250?B?SmFrdWIgV2mcbmlvd3NraQ==?= <jakub.wisniowski@euro.coig.pl>  Thu Mar  6 10:30:07 2003
From: =?Windows-1250?B?SmFrdWIgV2mcbmlvd3NraQ==?= <jakub.wisniowski@euro.coig.pl> (Jakub Wisniowski)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:30:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Read conflicts
Message-ID: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>

  Hi all

     I've got some pages in my Zope application that display results
     of SQL query (results returned by Z-SQL Method) and check for existence of some
     data in SESSION object. There is nothing more on the pages but
     one thing - pages are refreshed every 30 seconds. I also have some users (really not
     many) that constantly monitor these pages. The last thing I've
     got is some error messages.
     The error message that displays on page looks like:

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
ZODB.POSException.ConflictError
Sorry, a site error occurred.
Traceback (innermost last): 
°       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module
°       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 127, in publish
°       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 127, in publish
°       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 127, in publish
°       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 122, in publish
°       Module Zope.App.startup, line 142, in zpublisher_exception_hook
°       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
°       Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit
°       Module ZODB.Transaction, line 235, in commit
°       Module ZODB.Transaction, line 349, in _commit_objects
°       Module ZODB.Connection, line 391, in commit
°       __traceback_info__: (('BTrees.OOBTree', 'OOBTree'), '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xcd', '')
°       Module Products.TemporaryFolder.TemporaryStorage, line 134, in store
ConflictError: database conflict error (oid 00000000000001cd, serial was 034b62206010624c, now 034b621e679953b3)      

    This error usually disappears after refreshing the page (but
    confuses the users). Some of error messages that are logged in my "stupid" log:
     
2003-03-06T09:50:36 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/cmp/info/yesterday/midday/index_html (138 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08)
------
2003-03-06T09:52:29 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/firm/props (139 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08)
------
2003-03-06T09:52:39 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/firm/props (140 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08)
------
2003-03-06T09:52:49 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/firm/index_html (141 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08)
------
2003-03-06T09:53:08 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/cmp/info/yesterday/index_html (142 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08)

 I have searched mailing lists, but I didn't find the answer for the
 question - what's going on? and what interests me most: what to do
 with this? I've found some sugestions that such errors called read
 conflicts may be caused by
 using the session. Is that true? Why the session? I don't think that I
 can stop using session object.
 Any more suggestions? Any solutions? There must be any simple
 solution - my app has only few users!

 Thanks

-- 
Jakub Wisniowski



From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Thu Mar  6 10:40:21 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:40:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Read conflicts
In-Reply-To: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>
References: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>
Message-ID: <200303061140.21981.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Thursday 06 March 2003 11:30, Jakub Wisniowski wrote:
>   Hi all
>
>      I've got some pages in my Zope application that display results
>      of SQL query (results returned by Z-SQL Method) and check for
> existence of some data in SESSION object. There is nothing more on the
> pages but one thing - pages are refreshed every 30 seconds. I also have
> some users (really not many) that constantly monitor these pages. The last
> thing I've got is some error messages.
>      The error message that displays on page looks like:
>
> An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
> ZODB.POSException.ConflictError
> Sorry, a site error occurred.
> Traceback (innermost last):
> =B0       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module
> =B0       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 127, in publish
> =B0       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 127, in publish
> =B0       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 127, in publish
> =B0       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 122, in publish
> =B0       Module Zope.App.startup, line 142, in zpublisher_exception_hook
> =B0       Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
> =B0       Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit
> =B0       Module ZODB.Transaction, line 235, in commit
> =B0       Module ZODB.Transaction, line 349, in _commit_objects
> =B0       Module ZODB.Connection, line 391, in commit
> =B0       __traceback_info__: (('BTrees.OOBTree', 'OOBTree'),
> '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xcd', '') =B0       Module
> Products.TemporaryFolder.TemporaryStorage, line 134, in store
> ConflictError: database conflict error (oid 00000000000001cd, serial was
> 034b62206010624c, now 034b621e679953b3)
>
>     This error usually disappears after refreshing the page (but
>     confuses the users). Some of error messages that are logged in my
> "stupid" log:
>
> 2003-03-06T09:50:36 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at
> /ctt/cmp/info/yesterday/midday/index_html (138 conflicts since startup at
> 2003-03-05T16:20:08) ------
> 2003-03-06T09:52:29 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/firm/props (139
> conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08) ------
> 2003-03-06T09:52:39 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/firm/props (140
> conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08) ------
> 2003-03-06T09:52:49 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /ctt/firm/index_html
> (141 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-05T16:20:08) ------
> 2003-03-06T09:53:08 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at
> /ctt/cmp/info/yesterday/index_html (142 conflicts since startup at
> 2003-03-05T16:20:08)
>
>  I have searched mailing lists, but I didn't find the answer for the
>  question - what's going on? and what interests me most: what to do
>  with this? I've found some sugestions that such errors called read
>  conflicts may be caused by
>  using the session. Is that true? Why the session? I don't think that I
>  can stop using session object.
>  Any more suggestions? Any solutions? There must be any simple
>  solution - my app has only few users!

I already had same kind of problem while "storing" Zope persistent objects=
=20
into SESSION.
Problem disappeared when switching SESSION informations to simple Python=20
objects (strings, lists,...).

Thierry
=2D-=20
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From leemann@netcloud.ch  Thu Mar  6 10:58:23 2003
From: leemann@netcloud.ch (Stefan Leemann)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:58:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] index_html
Message-ID: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>

Hi,

I grooved up my index_html in the root of zope. Are there any chances to
correct this? I can't connect to the manage interface or to any plone =
sites
any more.

Can I edit index_html on some way direct on the linux command line?

Thanks for feedback.

Best regards,
Stefan


From Jakub Wisniowski <jakub.wisniowski@euro.coig.pl>  Thu Mar  6 11:03:31 2003
From: Jakub Wisniowski <jakub.wisniowski@euro.coig.pl> (Jakub Wisniowski)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:03:31 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: [Zope] Read conflicts
In-Reply-To: <200303061140.21981.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>
 <200303061140.21981.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <16673174406.20030306120331@euro.coig.pl>

Thursday, March 6, 2003, 11:40:21 AM, you wrote:

TF> I already had same kind of problem while "storing" Zope persistent objects 
TF> into SESSION.
TF> Problem disappeared when switching SESSION informations to simple Python 
TF> objects (strings, lists,...).

TF> Thierry

Thanks for reply.
My SESSION holds only Python dictionary with logged user's data. Is it
checked on every page to let me know if the user has been logged in.
Maybe I should switch from a dictionary to a list? Sounds rather strange...
One more info - my Zope's version is 2.6.1.

-- 
 Jakub Wisniowski



From michael.healy@engitech.ie  Thu Mar  6 11:30:27 2003
From: michael.healy@engitech.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Miche=E1l_Healy?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:30:27 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
Message-ID: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>

Hi,

If I have python installed on my PC, can I use that installation instead =
of
that installed with Zope?  The reason is that I am having trouble install=
ing
the win32 library for python on the Zope python instance.  It fails to lo=
ad
pywise32.dll(?).  I'm using a Win98 machine.

TIA,

Miche=E1l

Miche=E1l Healy
Engitech Ltd.
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From stephan.herschel@proceryon.at  Thu Mar  6 12:09:56 2003
From: stephan.herschel@proceryon.at (Stephan Herschel)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:09:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Count User Logins
Message-ID: <3E673A94.7030109@proceryon.at>

Hi Everyone,

I've got a Zope application where users have to authenticate themselves 
to be able to view certain pages. Now I want to count the logins per 
zope-user (disregarding the actual user-request identified by their 
ip-addresses). Can this be done?

-- 


Stephan



From jens@zope.com  Thu Mar  6 12:39:09 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:39:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] index_html
In-Reply-To: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
Message-ID: <A0A32BF4-4FD0-11D7-BCDB-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

try going to http://<server>/index_html/manage_main

jens


On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 05:58 US/Eastern, Stefan Leemann wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I grooved up my index_html in the root of zope. Are there any chances 
> to
> correct this? I can't connect to the manage interface or to any plone 
> sites
> any more.
>
> Can I edit index_html on some way direct on the linux command line?
>
> Thanks for feedback.
>
> Best regards,
> Stefan



From j_melt@yahoo.com  Thu Mar  6 12:45:55 2003
From: j_melt@yahoo.com (Yannis Lionis)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:45:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Problem with Linux installation
Message-ID: <20030306124555.71528.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com>

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Hi everybody.

I'm attempting to install Zope 2.6.1 on Mandrake Linux version 9. I read the documentation and followed the instructions: unziped the files, run ./install, wrote down the login and password, set the sticky bit of /var and changed the owner of var to root (since I was installing as root), and used the ./zpasswd.py script to change the password to something more convenient, leaving the login name to 'admin'. Trouble starts here: The SETUPUID.TXT document file says I need to set the UID either in the ./z2.py, or in the ./start command line. I cannot do either! I tried the first option and typed:

./z2py -u admin

What I got was the help list and at the bottom the following error messages:

./z2py: line 239: syntaxerror near unexpected token ' 0,'

./z2py: line 239: '      sys.path.insert(0,'%s/lib/python'%swhome)'

So I thought I'd try the second option. I typed:

./start.py -u admin

The process seemed to go fine (opened datanbase, mounted database, etc.) but a few seconds later I got a message:

ERROR(200) z2 Can't find UID admin

After experimenting a bit, I noticed that when I run ./start it deletes the 'inituser' file at some point during opening and mounting the database (as it appears anyway). So a few seconds later it looks for admin and finds nothing.

Am I doing something wrong here? I have successfully done the whole thing in Windows 2000 (which of course is a different story, but still) and I can't find anything in the documentation that I'm doing wrong. I downloaded the zip file again and did the whole thing from the beginning and it made no difference, so it is not a corrupted file or anything like that. Can anyone help me on this? Thanks!

Yannis

P.S: And sorry for the huge email, I just thought that nobody can really help unless they have some details...



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<P>Hi everybody.</P>
<P>I'm attempting to install Zope 2.6.1 on Mandrake Linux version 9. I read the documentation and followed the instructions: unziped the files, run ./install, wrote down the login and password, set the sticky bit of /var and changed the owner of var to root (since I was installing as root), and used the ./zpasswd.py script to change the password to something more convenient, leaving the login name to 'admin'. Trouble starts here: The SETUPUID.TXT document file says I need to set the UID either in the ./z2.py, or in the ./start command line. I cannot do either! I tried the first option and typed:</P>
<P>./z2py -u admin</P>
<P>What I got was the help list and at the bottom the following error messages:</P>
<P>./z2py: line 239: syntaxerror near unexpected token ' 0,'</P>
<P>./z2py: line 239: '&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sys.path.insert(0,'%s/lib/python'%swhome)'</P>
<P>So I thought I'd try the second option. I typed:</P>
<P>./start.py -u admin</P>
<P>The process seemed to go fine (opened datanbase, mounted database, etc.) but a few seconds later I got a message:</P>
<P>ERROR(200) z2 Can't find UID admin</P>
<P>After experimenting a bit, I noticed that when I run ./start it deletes the 'inituser' file at some point during opening and mounting the database (as it appears anyway). So a few seconds later it looks for admin and finds nothing.</P>
<P>Am I doing something wrong here? I have successfully done the whole thing in Windows 2000 (which of course is a different story, but still) and I can't find anything in the documentation that I'm doing wrong. I downloaded the zip file again and did the whole thing from the beginning and it made no difference, so it is not a corrupted file or anything like that. Can anyone help me on this? Thanks!</P>
<P>Yannis</P>
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From jh@comunit.de  Thu Mar  6 12:33:32 2003
From: jh@comunit.de (Janko Hauser)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:33:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
In-Reply-To: <20030306.UHQ.29109800@carramar.auslin.com.au>
References: <20030306.UHQ.29109800@carramar.auslin.com.au>
Message-ID: <20030306133332.682672d7.jh@comunit.de>

On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:04 +0000
"Mehmet Yousouf" <mehmety@carramar.auslin.com.au> wrote:


> I have tried sorting after the dtml-in command but the same story,
> even doing a<dtml-var "SESSION[nameid']"> while zope renders it,
> will not get converted to pdf..... if I save the file and use
> hmtldoc -f nameid.pdf nameid.html --webpage, it works.
> 

The problem here is, that htmldoc makes its own request to the named
page. This request doesn't know anything about your session, as it can
not hanlde cookies or authentication.

The solution you tried will break, if someone else will print the
page.

HTH,
__Janko
 


From jan.maska@systinet.com  Thu Mar  6 12:53:44 2003
From: jan.maska@systinet.com (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Jan_Ma=B9ka?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:53:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML document from a string/query
Message-ID: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBCEHKCBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>

Hi all,

Though it may seem as a stupid question, it's rather important (at least for
me)..
How to create a DTML document pointer (<dtml-var required_document>) from a
string?
Let's see this example:
 www.mydomain.com/somepath/index?read=20030220

What I need is that the index at somepath opens another document called
'20030220' and prints it's contents, like in this case:
==index==
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var "20030220">
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>
===end===
only I want to be able to define this dynamically based on the user queries.

If you can give any hints, it would really be helpful.

-Mac

===============================
 Jan Maska, web developer
 Systinet, Prague(CZ)
 jan.maska@systinet.com
 tel.:(+420)608453492

 visit http://www.systinet.com
===============================



From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Thu Mar  6 13:09:51 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:09:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML document from a string/query
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97AD9A6@PROSERV>

Hi,

This is how I was able to point the variable to the form -

	   <a href=3D" www.mydomain.com/somepath/index?read=3D<dtml-var
required_document>" target=3D"_blank">
<dtml-var required_document><dtml-var required_document>
     =20
hth

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Jan =
Ma=B9ka
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Zope mailing list
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML document from a string/query


Hi all,

Though it may seem as a stupid question, it's rather important (at =
least for
me)..
How to create a DTML document pointer (<dtml-var required_document>) =
from a
string?
Let's see this example:
 www.mydomain.com/somepath/index?read=3D20030220

What I need is that the index at somepath opens another document called
'20030220' and prints it's contents, like in this case:
=3D=3Dindex=3D=3D
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var "20030220">
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>
=3D=3D=3Dend=3D=3D=3D
only I want to be able to define this dynamically based on the user =
queries.

If you can give any hints, it would really be helpful.

-Mac

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 Jan Maska, web developer
 Systinet, Prague(CZ)
 jan.maska@systinet.com
 tel.:(+420)608453492

 visit http://www.systinet.com
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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From andy@bigorangelovebus.net  Thu Mar  6 13:21:06 2003
From: andy@bigorangelovebus.net (andy)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:21:06 +0000
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
Message-ID: <3E674B42.7030706@bigorangelovebus.net>

Hi,

Am I right in syaing that there is no such DA for zope running on linux? 
I can find the DA for the win platform, but can't find an equivalent for 
Linux..... I need to access information in an Access copied on a Linux 
server (where zope will also be running). All the clients connected to 
the server are Win98, so can't run Zope as a service anywhere else. Not 
sure if there's a problem with accessing data from this db if it's on 
the Linux server - if there is then I'll just point the DB request to 
one of the network machines. But first I need to get an adapter that 
works, and so far I can't see one.

Andy



From mas@semafor.ch  Thu Mar  6 13:29:40 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:29:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Lines with different colors
Message-ID: <3E674D44.6030706@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

I am experimenting around with zope and I want to do following thing:

I call values from the database and give them out.
Now I want each second line in a different color.

How do I do that?

Thanks in advance

    Sorin



From d.chirila@bucarest.finsiel.ro  Thu Mar  6 13:38:37 2003
From: d.chirila@bucarest.finsiel.ro (Dragos Chirila)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:38:37 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Lines with different colors
References: <3E674D44.6030706@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <001501c2e3e5$b10a3f90$2f01a8c0@dchirila>

HI

go to 'Help' from your Zope console and search for 'dtml-in'

there is the following example :

    Creating alternate colored table cells: 
      <table>
      <dtml-in objectValues>
      <tr <dtml-if sequence-odd>bgcolor="#EEEEEE"
          <dtml-else>bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
          </dtml-if>
        <td><dtml-var title></td>
      </tr>
      </dtml-in>
      </table>

rgds



> Hi all,
> 
> I am experimenting around with zope and I want to do following thing:
> 
> I call values from the database and give them out.
> Now I want each second line in a different color.
> 
> How do I do that?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>     Sorin
> 
> 
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From maxm@mxm.dk  Thu Mar  6 13:39:15 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:39:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Lines with different colors
In-Reply-To: <3E674D44.6030706@semafor.ch>
References: <3E674D44.6030706@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <3E674F83.6010607@mxm.dk>

Sorin Marti wrote:

> I am experimenting around with zope and I want to do following thing:
>
> I call values from the database and give them out.
> Now I want each second line in a different color.
>
> How do I do that? 


You need to be more precise. Are you using dtml  or zpt?

dtml:
<tr bgcolor="<dtml-if sequence-odd>blue</dtml-if>">

zpt:
<tr tal:attributes="bgcolor python:test(repeat['item_name'].odd(), 
'blue', '')">


regards Max M



From j_melt@yahoo.com  Thu Mar  6 13:39:28 2003
From: j_melt@yahoo.com (Yannis Lionis)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:39:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Lines with different colors
In-Reply-To: <3E674D44.6030706@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <20030306133928.51398.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com>

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Here's a way:
Add a counter variable in your loop (if there isn't one already there). For every value you get from the database, increase the counter by one. While printing the value, if the counter is even, print blue, if it is odd, print yellow. You can check if the number is even or odd by dividing by 2 and checking if the remainder is 1 or 0. You can also use different colors than blue and yellow. ;-)
Hope this helps!
Yannis
 Sorin Marti <mas@semafor.ch> wrote:Hi all,

I am experimenting around with zope and I want to do following thing:

I call values from the database and give them out.
Now I want each second line in a different color.

How do I do that?

Thanks in advance

Sorin


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<P>Here's a way:
<P>Add a counter variable in your loop (if there isn't one already there). For every value you get from the database, increase the counter by one. While printing the value, if the counter is even, print blue, if it is odd, print yellow. You can check if the number is even or odd by dividing by 2 and checking if the remainder is 1 or 0. You can also use different colors than blue and yellow. ;-)
<P>Hope this helps!
<P>Yannis
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Sorin Marti &lt;mas@semafor.ch&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi all,<BR><BR>I am experimenting around with zope and I want to do following thing:<BR><BR>I call values from the database and give them out.<BR>Now I want each second line in a different color.<BR><BR>How do I do that?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance<BR><BR>Sorin<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org<BR>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope<BR>** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **<BR>(Related lists - <BR>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce<BR>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )</BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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From gcw-python@rezidew.net  Thu Mar  6 13:47:39 2003
From: gcw-python@rezidew.net (G. Clifford Williams)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:47:39 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <48541845262.20030306024706@Vex.Net>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net> <48541845262.20030306024706@Vex.Net>
Message-ID: <200303060747.39492.gcw-python@rezidew.net>

hrmm looks like my enthusiasm for ZPT has hit a lull. Thanks for the help, 
It's greatly appreciated.


On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:47 am, you wrote:
> G. wrote on Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 10:38:58 PM:
> > I'd like to generate a list of links that does not include the index_html
> > page.
>
> Notice the tal:condition="python:item.getId()<>'index_html'" below.
> Also notice the general use of object/title_or_id instead of just
> object/title.
>
> > My second question is: Is there any way to sort the list that's
> > generated?
>
> Sort is a bit awkward inside page templates. The sort part of this
> code is basically ripped from the API reference in the Zope Book.
> It does an insensitive sort on the title, then date.
>
>   <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title_or_id">Title</font>
>   <UL tal:condition="container/objectValues"
>       tal:define="objects here/objectValues;
>                   sort_on python:(('title', 'nocase', 'asc'),
>                                   ('bobobase_modification_time', 'cmp',
> 'desc')); sorted_objects python:sequence.sort(objects, sort_on)"> <LI
> tal:repeat="item sorted_objects">
>           <span tal:define="i item/title_or_id"
>                 tal:condition="python:item.getId()<>'index_html'"
>                 tal:replace="i">ITEM</span>
>     </LI>
>   </UL>
>
> If you're wanting to do anything very complicated with lists, i'd just
> write a python script to generate the list the way you want it, then
> loop over that.



From seila@gmx.de  Thu Mar  6 13:49:22 2003
From: seila@gmx.de (seila@gmx.de)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:49:22 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Sessions in Zope 2.6.1?
Message-ID: <18239.1046958562@www27.gmx.net>

hi all, 
 
i have a question concerning the session-management in zope 2.6.1: 
in which circumstances /exactly/ would i have to create my own session 
data manager/browser id manager/temporary folder etc? 
i'm developping my site in a subfolder (and serve it with apache, vhm 
etc.) and now i don't know if i have to create a new session data manager 
etc. in my (sub)folder (the zope-book 2.6 doesn't help much in that 
point). 
 
any help appreciated. 
  
regards, 
seila 
  
 

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From chrism@zope.com  Thu Mar  6 14:35:55 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 09:35:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Sessions in Zope 2.6.1?
In-Reply-To: <18239.1046958562@www27.gmx.net>
References: <18239.1046958562@www27.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <1046961355.1418.0.camel@james>

You needn't create anything, you can use the sessioning machinery out of
the box...

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 08:49, seila@gmx.de wrote:
> hi all,=20
> =20
> i have a question concerning the session-management in zope 2.6.1:=20
> in which circumstances /exactly/ would i have to create my own session=20
> data manager/browser id manager/temporary folder etc?=20
> i'm developping my site in a subfolder (and serve it with apache, vhm=20
> etc.) and now i don't know if i have to create a new session data manager=
=20
> etc. in my (sub)folder (the zope-book 2.6 doesn't help much in that=20
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar  6 14:41:40 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 09:41:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
In-Reply-To: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
References: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
Message-ID: <20030306144140.GA7048@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:30:27AM -0000, Miche?l Healy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If I have python installed on my PC, can I use that installation instead of
> that installed with Zope?

sure, i do it all the time on linux.
sorry i don't know the setup for doing this on windows.

Be sure to use the recommended version of python.
For zope 2.5 - 2.6.1, that's python 2.1.3 ONLY.

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From mirsoft@systinet.com  Thu Mar  6 14:49:06 2003
From: mirsoft@systinet.com (Lubos Culen)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:49:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to convert string to object?
Message-ID: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>

Hi!

Maybe this is more Python question, but because I'm using it with Zope, I'm 
posting it here.

Let's suppose I have DTML Method called e.g. 'index_html' . It has one 
input parameter 'obj' which contains name of existing file object inside 
the directory tree. For example, the index_html file would be called as:

www.mysite.com/path/index_html?obj=path.to.object.file

Then in folder www.mysite.com/path/path/to/object/file in this example 
would be the DTML document I'd like to be displayed. I have to make proper 
code in the index_html file do do this.

I tried do following in index_html:

<dtml-var obj>

But this echoes only plain text ('path.to.object.file') and not the 
object's content. I need to find some way how to convert this string to 
object, so Zope (or Python) can understand it as an object and display its 
content. Is there some way?

Thanks a lot for any answer!

-- 
Regards, Mirsoft


From michael.healy@engitech.ie  Thu Mar  6 14:57:31 2003
From: michael.healy@engitech.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Miche=E1l_Healy?=)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:57:31 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
In-Reply-To: <20030306144140.GA7048@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELCEDMDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>

Hi Paul,

What's the procedure for doing this on Linux?  I have a few Zope
installations here, on Linux, WinNT and '98, so it would be useful for an=
y.

Thanks,

Miche=E1l

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Paul
Winkler
Sent: 06 March 2003 14:42
To: Zope@Zope.Org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 11:30:27AM -0000, Miche?l Healy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I have python installed on my PC, can I use that installation instea=
d
of
> that installed with Zope?

sure, i do it all the time on linux.
sorry i don't know the setup for doing this on windows.

Be sure to use the recommended version of python.
For zope 2.5 - 2.6.1, that's python 2.1.3 ONLY.

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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar  6 15:18:40 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:18:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
In-Reply-To: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELCEDMDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
References: <20030306144140.GA7048@slinkp.com> <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELCEDMDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
Message-ID: <20030306151840.GC7048@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 02:57:31PM -0000, Miche?l Healy wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> What's the procedure for doing this on Linux? 

just get the zope source tarball instead of the binary distro.
have python 2.1.3 installed. make sure you know how to run it
(it might be just "python", or "python2" or "python2.1" 
depending on your system and what other versions of python
might be installed.)

then run that command to build zope, e.g.
cd /where/you/untarred/zope
python2.1 wo_pcgi.py

then edit the start script to be sure it uses the right version of
python on the last line e.g.:

exec /usr/bin/python2.1 $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"

... editing the z2.py options to taste of course.

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From pollej@uleth.ca  Thu Mar  6 16:40:32 2003
From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:40:32 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
Message-ID: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca>

Is there an easy way to tell if a Page Template is valid/invalid?
(Meaning the same check that gets done to see if the red exclaimation
mark should show up in the ZMI)

Ed



From wade@lightlink.com  Thu Mar  6 17:40:34 2003
From: wade@lightlink.com (Wade Leftwich)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:40:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
Message-ID: <3E678812.6080006@lightlink.com>

>Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:21:06 +0000
>From: andy <andy@bigorangelovebus.net>
>Subject: odbc da for zope on linux

>Hi,

>Am I right in syaing that there is no such DA for zope running on linux? 
>I can find the DA for the win platform, but can't find an equivalent for 
>Linux..... I need to access information in an Access copied on a Linux 
>server (where zope will also be running). All the clients connected to 
>the server are Win98, so can't run Zope as a service anywhere else. Not 
>sure if there's a problem with accessing data from this db if it's on 
>the Linux server - if there is then I'll just point the DB request to 
>one of the network machines. But first I need to get an adapter that 
>works, and so far I can't see one.

Your Access mdb file is on your Linux box? I don't think you can open it there.
You'll need to put it on a Windows box, then talk to it via ODBC over
the network.

Marc-Andre Lemburg's new and excellent mxODBC Zope Adapter will do the job.
It's a bargain at $95 per Zope server. I'm using it on Windows, but have
tested his mxODBC module on Linux, and it works.

mxODBC enables Python to talk to the ODBC driver manager on your Linux box. There are a couple
of free ODBC driver mgrs available for Linux. Then for getting your Linux box to talk
to the Access box, there are one or two free projects as well as commercial products
(http://easysoft.com/).

If you don't need to keep the db in Access for other reasons, now would be an excellent time
to take a good look at PostgreSql.

You can probably get more answers on the Zope-db list.

Wade Leftwich
Ithaca, NY





From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Thu Mar  6 17:50:44 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:50:44 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D553@desi2>

Your platform makes this hard, as Zope has modules written in C that =
need to
be compiled against the specific version of Python you are using.  Ho=
wever,
if you are using Python 2.1.3 in both cases, it may work without a
recompile.  Usually in this case, the worst thing that could happen i=
s a
warning that the Python C Module API versions mismatch.

Even if this does work, I'm not sure what the mechanics of doing this=
 on
Windows are (I suppose this may be difficult and tedious, and require=
 you to
know what you are doing).

If you have Visual C++, you might just want to compile Zope from sour=
ce
against the Python version you installed.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: Miche=E1l Healy [mailto:michael.healy@engitech.ie]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:30 AM
To: Zope@Zope.Org
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?


Hi,

If I have python installed on my PC, can I use that installation inst=
ead of
that installed with Zope?  The reason is that I am having trouble ins=
talling
the win32 library for python on the Zope python instance.  It fails t=
o load
pywise32.dll(?).  I'm using a Win98 machine.

TIA,

Miche=E1l

Miche=E1l Healy
Engitech Ltd.
01 6204 516



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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar  6 17:45:51 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:45:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Some VHM questions
Message-ID: <3E67894F.1000905@neurobs.com>

I have a zope site running behind apache 2.0. The zope istnace has a VHM 
in there that maps to a domain. I had a few questions about the VHM 
workings.

In my site the primary structure is as such:

/
    /nbs_online/               ( maps to nbs.neuro-bs.com )
    /nbs_online/information
    /nbs_online/secure    ( maps to secure.neuro-bs.com )
/test                               (doesnt map to anything )

The required rewrite rules are in the httpd.conf and ssl.conf

The problem is I can access /test or for that matter any other URL 
outside nbs_online via the url nbs.neuro-bs.com/test or whatever the 
folder name is. The rewrite rules are given below.
My question is why??

Secondly
    
the rewrite rules in my virtualhost nbs.neuro-bs.com (httpd.conf)

RewriteRule ^/secure/(.*) https://secure.neuro-bs.com/$1 [R]
RewriteRule ^/(.*) 
http://192.168.10.172:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/$1 
[L,P]

and the rewrite rules in my ssl.conf for virtualhost (secure.neuro-bs.com)

RewriteRule ^/(.*) 
http://192.168.10.172:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/secure.neuro-bs.com:443/nbs_online/secure/VirtualHostRoot/$1 
[L,P]

However is you look at the folder structure above, can anybody explain 
why I can access the folder information via:

https://secure.neuro-bs.com/information

which should be mapping to https://nbs.neuro-bs.com/secure/information 
and thus raising a 404??

TIA
AM

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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar  6 17:48:40 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:48:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
In-Reply-To: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca>
References: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <8049925.1046976520@[192.168.0.3]>

My favourite is to run tidy against page templates using the -xml option.
I mapped it to a function so I can check the template from within my editor
(vim of course).

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 6. M=E4rz 2003 09:40 -0700 Edward Pollard =
<pollej@uleth.ca>=20
wrote:

> Is there an easy way to tell if a Page Template is valid/invalid?
> (Meaning the same check that gets done to see if the red exclaimation
> mark should show up in the ZMI)
>
> Ed
>
>
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From pollej@uleth.ca  Thu Mar  6 17:52:07 2003
From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:52:07 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
References: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca> <8049925.1046976520@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <3E678AC7.67C91D4F@uleth.ca>

Very nice.

However I seek to add an indication of invalid template to a web portal that
allows creation and editing the page.

You know, reinventing the wheel and all...just wondering how to build this
spoke :-)

Ed

Andreas Jung wrote:

> My favourite is to run tidy against page templates using the -xml option.
> I mapped it to a function so I can check the template from within my editor
> (vim of course).
>
> -aj
>
> --On Donnerstag, 6. März 2003 09:40 -0700 Edward Pollard <pollej@uleth.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Is there an easy way to tell if a Page Template is valid/invalid?
> > (Meaning the same check that gets done to see if the red exclaimation
> > mark should show up in the ZMI)
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
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From creiman@kefta.com  Thu Mar  6 18:14:17 2003
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:14:17 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
In-Reply-To: <3E678AC7.67C91D4F@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKKEPMDIAA.creiman@kefta.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> Edward Pollard
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:52 AM
> To: Andreas Jung
> Cc: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
>
>
> Very nice.
>
> However I seek to add an indication of invalid template to a web
> portal that
> allows creation and editing the page.
>
> You know, reinventing the wheel and all...just wondering how to build this
> spoke :-)
>
> Ed

Typically I just reload the page after saving it. Any errors are in a
comment at the top. It would be pretty easy to automate this... in emacs, of
course. Since I'm not sure what context you're talking about, I can't be
more helpful.




From evan@4-am.com  Thu Mar  6 18:18:33 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:18:33 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Invalid Page Template?
In-Reply-To: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca>
References: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <3E6790F9.9010803@4-am.com>

Edward Pollard wrote:
> Is there an easy way to tell if a Page Template is valid/invalid?
> (Meaning the same check that gets done to see if the red exclaimation
> mark should show up in the ZMI)

Do you mean *exactly* the same check (i.e. calling a method on the ZPT 
after writing to it)?

In that case you want pt_errors() and pt_warnings(), which return None 
or a sequence of strings describing the error or warning.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am



From pollej@uleth.ca  Thu Mar  6 18:19:02 2003
From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:19:02 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
References: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKKEPMDIAA.creiman@kefta.com>
Message-ID: <3E679116.618F347@uleth.ca>


Charlie Reiman wrote:

> Typically I just reload the page after saving it. Any errors are in a
> comment at the top. It would be pretty easy to automate this... in emacs, of
> course. Since I'm not sure what context you're talking about, I can't be
> more helpful.

I think I mentioned above that its a web portal. Picture the ZMI with 2% of the
functionality.

So I want to indicated on the directory index screen that a page is unwell.

Ed




From mlong@datalong.com  Thu Mar  6 18:18:44 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 13:18:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
Message-ID: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

I have installed the External Editor client on windows XP Pro and
configured it to use gvim. First let me say that this is a great
product. I am having a problem whenever I close a file after editing it.
I get an error message saying that "External editor lost connection to
editor process." The only thing I have been able to find is this is from
the External editor site:

*If the editor launches, but the helper app complains that it lost its
connection to the editor process, this is because your editor detached
from the parent process (the helper app). Configure the editor such that
it does not do this. Unfortunately, many MDI applications do this and
cannot be configured otherwise. Look for a solution to this in a later
version of external editor.

Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?

Thanks,
Mike


From josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch  Thu Mar  6 18:43:18 2003
From: josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch (Josef Meile)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:43:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to convert string to object?
Message-ID: <001a01c2e410$417f32e0$db278481@eco8>

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> I tried do following in index_html:
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>=20
> But this echoes only plain text ('path.to.object.file') and not the=20
> object's content. I need to find some way how to convert this string =
to=20
> object, so Zope (or Python) can understand it as an object and display =
its=20
> content. Is there some way?
You could try:

<dtml-var "REQUEST.resolve_url(obj)">

Regards,
Josef
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From evan@4-am.com  Thu Mar  6 18:37:38 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:37:38 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Some VHM questions
In-Reply-To: <3E67894F.1000905@neurobs.com>
References: <3E67894F.1000905@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E679572.9070903@4-am.com>

AM wrote:
> I have a zope site running behind apache 2.0. The zope istnace has a VHM 
> in there that maps to a domain. I had a few questions about the VHM 
> workings.
> 
> The problem is I can access /test or for that matter any other URL 
> outside nbs_online via the url nbs.neuro-bs.com/test

This isn't (directly) a VHM issue.  What you're seeing is Zope 
acquisition, a powerful feature that can have surprising effects.

Fundamentally, acquisition means that when you ask the object at 
'/nbs_online' for the name 'test', Zope searches for 'test' in 
'/nbs_online' and then in '/', where it finds it.  In general, if 'a' 
contains 'b' contains 'c', and you ask for '/a/b/c/d', Zope will search 
for 'd' in 'c', then 'b', then 'a', then the root.

I advise reading about acquisition in the Zope Book at www.zope.org.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am



From josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch  Thu Mar  6 19:03:07 2003
From: josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch (Josef Meile)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:03:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to convert string to object?
Message-ID: <002001c2e413$0642d530$db278481@eco8>

--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, "Josef Meile" <josef.meile@i...> wrote:
> > I tried do following in index_html:
> >
> > <dtml-var obj>
> >
> > But this echoes only plain text ('path.to.object.file') and not the
> > object's content. I need to find some way how to convert this string to
> > object, so Zope (or Python) can understand it as an object and display
its
> > content. Is there some way?
> You could try:
>
> <dtml-var "REQUEST.resolve_url(obj)">

Opss, I saw your path is separated with dots '.', so I guess
you will have to convert them to slashes '/'. I think you will also
need to add 'http://www.mysite.com/' before your path



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar  6 19:05:48 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:05:48 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Some VHM questions
In-Reply-To: <3E679572.9070903@4-am.com>
References: <3E67894F.1000905@neurobs.com> <3E679572.9070903@4-am.com>
Message-ID: <3E679C0C.5050603@neurobs.com>

I did read it and do understand it. I guess I mis-understood the 
functionality of VHM in presupposing that it would restrict that kind of 
upward acquisition.

Is there a way to pratially eclipse acquisition... :)

Thanks.
AM

Evan Simpson wrote:

> AM wrote:
>
>> I have a zope site running behind apache 2.0. The zope istnace has a 
>> VHM in there that maps to a domain. I had a few questions about the 
>> VHM workings.
>>
>> The problem is I can access /test or for that matter any other URL 
>> outside nbs_online via the url nbs.neuro-bs.com/test
>
>
> This isn't (directly) a VHM issue.  What you're seeing is Zope 
> acquisition, a powerful feature that can have surprising effects.
>
> Fundamentally, acquisition means that when you ask the object at 
> '/nbs_online' for the name 'test', Zope searches for 'test' in 
> '/nbs_online' and then in '/', where it finds it.  In general, if 'a' 
> contains 'b' contains 'c', and you ask for '/a/b/c/d', Zope will 
> search for 'd' in 'c', then 'b', then 'a', then the root.
>
> I advise reading about acquisition in the Zope Book at www.zope.org.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Evan @ 4-am
>
>
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  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From baiewola@netscape.net  Thu Mar  6 19:44:26 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:44:26 -0500
Subject: SOLVED:  [Zope] NuxUserGroups and CMF not working
Message-ID: <4E150577.4B57A795.00923364@netscape.net>

The CMF product folders were not being found. I moved them, and everything works now.


Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> wrote:

>baiewola@netscape.net wrote at 2003-3-4 14:57 -0500:
> > ...
> > There's nothing at all in my logs about CMF, but here's what the log has to say abut NuxUserGroups:
> >   File /zopedirectory/lib/python/Products/NuxUserGroups/CatalogToolWithGroups.py, line 17, in ?
> >     (Object: rolesForPermissionOn)
> > ImportError: No module named CMFCore.CatalogTool
>
>Can you check what code you find in line 17 of "CatalogToolWithGroups.py".
>It should read somehow like "Products.CMFCore.CatalogTool".
>
>
>Dieter
>

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From tim@xxvii.net  Thu Mar  6 19:52:21 2003
From: tim@xxvii.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:52:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <69585360563.20030306145221@Vex.Net>

Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?

I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:

editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe

in the ZopeEdit.ini

Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.

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From maxm@mxm.dk  Thu Mar  6 19:57:20 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 20:57:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to convert string to object?
In-Reply-To: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>
References: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E67A820.3090208@mxm.dk>

Lubos Culen wrote:

> Let's suppose I have DTML Method called e.g. 'index_html' . It has one 
> input parameter 'obj' which contains name of existing file object 
> inside the directory tree. For example, the index_html file would be 
> called as:
>
> www.mysite.com/path/index_html?obj=path.to.object.file
>
> Then in folder www.mysite.com/path/path/to/object/file in this example 
> would be the DTML document I'd like to be displayed. I have to make 
> proper code in the index_html file do do this.


I think you need to clarify why you want to do it. Because normally you 
wold just let zope do the path traversal for you.

It certainly is doable, but you need a really good reason to roll your 
own version of something that Zope allready does. Most likely there is 
another way to acheive what you want to do.

It seems like you are thinking as a sql database programmer. You don't 
have to do that in Zope.

regards Max M




From baiewola@netscape.net  Thu Mar  6 19:58:51 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:58:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups: workaround, anyone?
Message-ID: <6D50509D.07993DFA.00923364@netscape.net>

My zope site is already created, and I did not create it with the idea that I would be implementing user groups. Therefore, I already have an acl_users folder at the top level of my site. All of my users are defined in that folder, and all access throughout the site is inherited, except for a few local roles assigned here and there.

Now that I want to use NuxUserGroups, I have a problem: I cannot create groups at the top level. Since I already have an acl_users folder, I get an error when I try to create a "User Folder with Groups" at the root level. So I can't simply move all my existing users into a different type of user folder that supports groups.

And when I create a "User Folder with Groups"at any other level, of course  my users from my root level acl_users folder are not recognized so they cannot be added to groups. So if I want to add groups at any level, I have to re-create all my users.

Does anyone have a workaround to this? Or am I overlooking a product that will let me do what I want (add groups to an existing site at the root level)?

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From ruger@acsnv.com  Thu Mar  6 20:08:59 2003
From: ruger@acsnv.com (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 12:08:59 -0800
Subject: [Zope] XML
Message-ID: <1046981340.10423.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

What is the best way to parse XML with Zope? I've been digging all over
the site, and the docs there keep talking about adding an XML Document,
but that option doesn't exist on my Zope server (2.6.0 on RH 8.0) and I
can't find anything indicating that there needs to be a product
installed.

Simply put, I want to be able to grab an XML document with webclient()
and be able to parse the contents of the XML using DTML.

TIA

Rick





From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:49:10 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:49:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] index_html
In-Reply-To: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
References: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
Message-ID: <15975.42550.445585.402672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Stefan Leemann wrote at 2003-3-6 11:58 +0100:
 > I grooved up my index_html in the root of zope. Are there any chances to
 > correct this? I can't connect to the manage interface or to any plone sites
 > any more.

Usually, "index_html" is not required to access "manage".

Maybe, more things are bad.

What goes wrong when you visit: "http://server:8080/manage"?
We need ErrorType, ErrorValue and traceback, in order to help you.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:34:37 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:34:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEMECKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <3E653B8D.5070203@agmweb.ca>
 <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEMECKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <15975.41677.133196.296485@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-6 01:32 +0100:
 > ...
 > But is there any function to work with the record object??

You can access its attributes...

 > I don't even know
 > what's its class.

It is defined in "ZPublisher.HTTPRequest" and its name in "record".

 > Can I add my own functions?

Sure, when you change the code...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:38:39 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:38:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Proxies for Z SQL Methods
In-Reply-To: <NEBBKNGNEHINDBEKOONHCEKJFIAA.rlfisher@sprynet.com>
References: <NEBBKNGNEHINDBEKOONHCEKJFIAA.rlfisher@sprynet.com>
Message-ID: <15975.41919.25359.198026@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Roger Fisher wrote at 2003-3-5 20:00 -0800:
 > I have a Z SQL method that wants to use document_src.  Unlike a DTML Method,
 > there is no "proxy" tab for me to set the Manager permission.  As a
 > workaround, I execute the document_src in the calling DTML method and pass
 > the result as a parameter to the Z SQL method.... but I wonder if there is a
 > more elegant solution?

I do not think so.


Dieter


PS: You may try to avoid the "application/ms-tnef" attachment.


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:36:24 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:36:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEMFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <20030305005607.GI3495@slinkp.com>
 <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEMFCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <15975.41784.601433.327070@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-6 01:32 +0100:
 > I've two forms who pass a similar record to their scripts. Each script does
 > its own processing, "normalising" the record. The record is then passed to
 > another script which does common processing and final storage in a table.

You can pass dictionaries instead of records.

An alternative:

  "Products.PythonScripts.standard" defines the record
  factory "Object" (maybe different case, check the source).

  It returns a writable "record".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 18:48:25 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:48:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope crashes on first hit
In-Reply-To: <20030305221512.80246.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <15974.20160.299650.872648@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <20030305221512.80246.qmail@web14106.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15975.38905.174603.503342@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bill Seitz wrote at 2003-3-5 14:15 -0800:
 > I moved z2.log, z2.pid, data.fs.tmp, and data.fs.lock
 > to a subfolder, then started up again.
 > 
 > Now things work fine.
 > 
 > Except I seem to have lost all changes since 4 months
 > ago.

Almost unbelievable...
"Data.fs" has the structure of a transactional log file,
i.e. each modification results in a transactional record
to be appended to "Data.fs". This is very robust
unless something truncates the file (or packs it).

You made regular backups of your "Data.fs"?
You should have; if not, start doing it now!

You can use "fsdump.py" to analyse the content of
your Data.fs. Attention, the output may be huge.
You are interested in the most recent transactions:
what is their time?


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:52:21 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:52:21 +0100
Subject: Re[2]: [Zope] Read conflicts
In-Reply-To: <16673174406.20030306120331@euro.coig.pl>
References: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>
 <200303061140.21981.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
 <16673174406.20030306120331@euro.coig.pl>
Message-ID: <15975.42741.882785.330767@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jakub Wisniowski wrote at 2003-3-6 12:03 +0100:
 > Thanks for reply.
 > My SESSION holds only Python dictionary with logged user's data. Is it
 > checked on every page to let me know if the user has been logged in.
 > Maybe I should switch from a dictionary to a list? Sounds rather strange...
 > One more info - my Zope's version is 2.6.1.

This is not your problem....

   You can stick with dictionaries.

   When you use objects that are itself persistent,
   then you can reduce the conflict probability,
   however, the conflict probably happens already on the main
   session object (updating its "last accessed time").
   If this were true, then "application level conflict resolution"
   (Howto on Zope.org) might help.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 20:03:19 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:03:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Calling DTML document from a string/query
In-Reply-To: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBCEHKCBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
References: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBCEHKCBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
Message-ID: <15975.43399.459005.451713@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jan Ma=1B-B=B9ka wrote at 2003-3-6 13:53 +0100:=1B-A
 > Though it may seem as a stupid question, it's rather important (at lea=
st for
 > me)..
 > How to create a DTML document pointer (<dtml-var required_document>) f=
rom a
 > string?
 > Let's see this example:
 >  www.mydomain.com/somepath/index?read=3D20030220
 >=20
 > What I need is that the index at somepath opens another document calle=
d
 > '20030220' and prints it's contents, like in this case:
 > =3D=3Dindex=3D=3D
 > <dtml-var standard_html_header>
 > <dtml-var "20030220">
 > <dtml-var standard_html_footer>
 > =3D=3D=3Dend=3D=3D=3D
 > only I want to be able to define this dynamically based on the user qu=
eries.
 >=20
 > If you can give any hints, it would really be helpful.

Please read

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

You are interested in "computed variable access", especially
"_[expression]" and "_.getitem(expression)".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:47:24 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:47:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Read conflicts
In-Reply-To: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>
References: <7371170296.20030306113007@euro.coig.pl>
Message-ID: <15975.42444.257132.91892@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jakub Wisniowski wrote at 2003-3-6 11:30 +0100:
 > ....
 > An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
 > ZODB.POSException.ConflictError
 > ....
 > =B0       __traceback_info__: (('BTrees.OOBTree', 'OOBTree'), '\x00\x0=
0\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xcd', '')
 > =B0       Module Products.TemporaryFolder.TemporaryStorage, line 134, =
in store
 > ConflictError: database conflict error (oid 00000000000001cd, serial w=
as 034b62206010624c, now 034b621e679953b3)     =20

A search over the mailing list archives (for "ConflictError")
will show hundreds of messages related to your problem....

Probably, several requests try to modify the same session related object =
at
the same time. Due to peculiarities of the session implementation,
a read access to a session causes writing as well.

Reduce the amount of session access to the cases when you really
need it. Especially, try not to access the session in all frames
of a frameset...

Occasional conflicts are unavoidable and should not harm
(as requests are automatically retried).

 >     This error usually disappears after refreshing the page (but
 >     confuses the users).

That's strnage. The user should get such a page only when conflicts
happen with very high frequency (the request is retried 2 or 3 times
before it fails).



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 20:02:21 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:02:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Count User Logins
In-Reply-To: <3E673A94.7030109@proceryon.at>
References: <3E673A94.7030109@proceryon.at>
Message-ID: <15975.43341.229389.21665@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Stephan Herschel wrote at 2003-3-6 13:09 +0100:
 > I've got a Zope application where users have to authenticate themselves 
 > to be able to view certain pages. Now I want to count the logins per 
 > zope-user (disregarding the actual user-request identified by their 
 > ip-addresses). Can this be done?

Yes, and, of course, there all lots of options:

  *  use a relational database table, indexed by user id (maybe ip-address)
     to count logins

  *  use a file per user on the file system to count logins

  *  use a small persistent object per user to count logins.
     Note that each login will write this object to the ZODB.
     Therefore, you place it either on a non-undoable storage
     or ensure, it is really small.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:37:24 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:37:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] context of a for loop
In-Reply-To: <20030306011249.52852.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030306011249.52852.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15975.41844.190579.167491@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fearless Froggie wrote at 2003-3-5 17:12 -0800:
 > ...
 > If I loop through a list of id's with a for loop and
 > do something to each of these objects, I get a "You
 > are not allowed to access editMetadata in this
 > context". Here's the code (here I'm just changing the
 > title of each of my items in my list 'id' to 'bob'): 
 > 
 > for item in id:
 >    item_object = getattr(context, item)
 >    item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')
 > 
 > But if I do these changes directly, it works fine:
 > 
 > item_object = getattr(context, id[0])
 > item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')

This means, the not the "0" th element has a problem but
some later one....

It has nothing to do with "for loop context".


Dieter


From mlong@datalong.com  Thu Mar  6 20:20:22 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:20:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
Message-ID: <E18r1qo-0004q8-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

Thanks for the reply. I am baffled because I have the same setup. If I
use notepad.exe instead of gvim.exe I also get the same message. It must
be a configuration issue specific to my machine. Does anyone else have
any ideas?

Cheers,
Mike

> Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> 
> I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> 
> editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
> 
> in the ZopeEdit.ini
> 
> Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
> 
> -- 
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number of
> x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let
alone. HDT
> 
> 
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From bzhang@hawaii.edu  Thu Mar  6 20:33:42 2003
From: bzhang@hawaii.edu (Bin Zhang)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 10:33:42 -1000
Subject: [Zope] BalkTalk unable to generate PDF
Message-ID: <3E67B0A6.6000200@hawaii.edu>

I installed Zope 2.61, PIL 1.1.3 and reportlab on a RedHat Linux 
server.  I was able to generate a PDF if the BackTalk book doesn't have 
any images in it.  Otherwise Zope will give me this in error log:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module Products.BackTalk.BackTalk, line 325, in manage_makePDF
  Module Products.BackTalk.BackTalk, line 362, in makePDF
  Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 288, in __call__
  Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 239, in dispatch
  Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 309, in document
  Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 403, in bullet
  Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 346, in paragraph
  Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 431, in image
  Module Products.BackTalk.Retrievers, line 44, in __call__
AttributeError: height


Can someone tell me what could be the cause?

Bin



From evan@4-am.com  Thu Mar  6 20:39:47 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:39:47 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <3E67B213.4090608@4-am.com>

Fernando Martins wrote:
> I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
> (record).
...
> Fields.a_field = 1
> 
> I get the error

I routinely patch Zope so that 'record' instances and the SQL Record 
subclasses that it generates are writable:

(in $ZOPE/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py)
class record:
     # Allow access to record methods and values from DTML
     __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1
     _guarded_writes = 1

(in $ZOPE/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/Result.py)
         class r(Record, Implicit, brains, zbrains):
             'Result record class'
             _guarded_writes = 1

I see no reason why 'record' objects shouldn't be mutable like this, but 
I've never discussed it with anyone.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am




From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Thu Mar  6 20:49:02 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:49:02 -0800
Subject: [Zope] XML
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D557@desi2>

Download and use ParsedXML product (v. 1.3+), which created persistent DOM
documents; use standard DOM API to access, traverse, read, and write data
from these documents.  This will require that you have the PyXML package
installed for the version of python you are using to run Zope in your linux
distro (http://pyxml.sf.net).  Note: PyXML is used to provide the pyexpat
parser interface to the expat parser, included.

You might also be able to parse your document without storing it in Zope
without even using ParsedXML (it sounds like this is what you want to do?).
If this is what you are looking to do, use the PyDOM dom implementation that
comes with PyXML, and write a parsing script in a Python module; then write
an external method that uses that module.  This should be pretty easy.

Get a copy of the book Python & XML by Jones and Drake (O'Reilly, 2002).
Also, there is a Parsed-XML-Dev mailing list and a zope-xml list, both on
zope.org.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@acsnv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:09 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] XML


What is the best way to parse XML with Zope? I've been digging all over
the site, and the docs there keep talking about adding an XML Document,
but that option doesn't exist on my Zope server (2.6.0 on RH 8.0) and I
can't find anything indicating that there needs to be a product
installed.

Simply put, I want to be able to grab an XML document with webclient()
and be able to parse the contents of the XML using DTML.

TIA

Rick




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From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 19:57:30 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:57:30 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
In-Reply-To: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
References: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
Message-ID: <15975.43050.210518.784124@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Miche=E1l Healy wrote at 2003-3-6 11:30 -0000:
 > If I have python installed on my PC, can I use that installation inste=
ad of
 > that installed with Zope?  The reason is that I am having trouble inst=
alling
 > the win32 library for python on the Zope python instance.  It fails to=
 load
 > pywise32.dll(?).  I'm using a Win98 machine.

You can, provided the Python version is compatible with Zope.

For Zope 2.6.1, you need either Python 2.1.3 or Python 2.2.2.

Then you just install the Zope source distribution and do

     your_python w_pcgi.py

or

     your_python wo_pcgi.py

This requires a C development system.
If you do not have one:

  Install the Zope binary distribution (your Python and that
  used for building the binary distribution must be the same
  version, i.e. 2.1.3).

  Remove the Python library "lib/python/python2.1" and
  the Python binary (probably "bin/python") from your
  Zope distribution.
  Edit "start.bat" to use your Python.


Dieter


From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Thu Mar  6 20:52:18 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 12:52:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D558@desi2>

ExternalEditor has problems with editors that detach from their parent
process. I think the only way around this is to have an editor-specific
plugin to deal with this.  I think there is one for Word, but not for
notepad.  Try MSWord or gvim instead, or consider figuring out how to make a
plugin work for the editor of your choice.  I haven't done this, but I think
there is info you can either google for or search list archives.

Good Luck,
Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:20 PM
To: Tim; Michael Long; Zope
Subject: Re: [Zope] External Editor


Thanks for the reply. I am baffled because I have the same setup. If I
use notepad.exe instead of gvim.exe I also get the same message. It must
be a configuration issue specific to my machine. Does anyone else have
any ideas?

Cheers,
Mike

> Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> 
> I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> 
> editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
> 
> in the ZopeEdit.ini
> 
> Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
> 
> -- 
> Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the
number of
> x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let
alone. HDT
> 
> 
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> 



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From michael@nichestaffing.com  Thu Mar  6 20:56:13 2003
From: michael@nichestaffing.com (Michael Lewis)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 13:56:13 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Latest stable version / combination
Message-ID: <1046984173.2322.393.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I'm using Zope 2.44, Python 2.13 and Apache 1.3.22 as recommended by
Dieter, and everything is working fine.  I would like to upgrade Zope to
be able to use ZCTextIndex to enable exact phrase searching and was
wondering what versions of each to get.  

Michael
-- 
Michael Lewis <michael@nichestaffing.com>
NicheStaffing.com



From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 21:08:21 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:08:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
In-Reply-To: <3E674B42.7030706@bigorangelovebus.net>
References: <3E674B42.7030706@bigorangelovebus.net>
Message-ID: <15975.47301.467208.60164@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

andy wrote at 2003-3-6 13:21 +0000:
 > Am I right in syaing that there is no such DA for zope running on linux? 

Please search for ZmxODBCDA. It is not free (in the sense of costless)
and it requires an external ODBC driver (which, too, is not free).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar  6 21:09:00 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:09:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to convert string to object?
In-Reply-To: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>
References: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>
Message-ID: <15975.47340.628290.98307@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lubos Culen wrote at 2003-3-6 15:49 +0100:
 > Let's suppose I have DTML Method called e.g. 'index_html' . It has one 
 > input parameter 'obj' which contains name of existing file object inside 
 > the directory tree. For example, the index_html file would be called as:
 > 
 > www.mysite.com/path/index_html?obj=path.to.object.file

Search for "restrictedTraverse"...


Dieter


From ruger@acsnv.com  Thu Mar  6 21:17:15 2003
From: ruger@acsnv.com (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 13:17:15 -0800
Subject: [Zope] XML
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D557@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D557@desi2>
Message-ID: <1046985435.11039.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

Whoa .. ok. I was under the impression that Zope had built-in support
for XML. If that's the case then I'll just send the data in CSV format.
We have too many servers that will be pulling these reports and I want
to keep the installed products down to a minimum.

Thanks for your help!

Rick

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:49, sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Download and use ParsedXML product (v. 1.3+), which created persistent DOM
> documents; use standard DOM API to access, traverse, read, and write data
> from these documents.  This will require that you have the PyXML package
> installed for the version of python you are using to run Zope in your linux
> distro (http://pyxml.sf.net).  Note: PyXML is used to provide the pyexpat
> parser interface to the expat parser, included.
> 
> You might also be able to parse your document without storing it in Zope
> without even using ParsedXML (it sounds like this is what you want to do?).
> If this is what you are looking to do, use the PyDOM dom implementation that
> comes with PyXML, and write a parsing script in a Python module; then write
> an external method that uses that module.  This should be pretty easy.
> 
> Get a copy of the book Python & XML by Jones and Drake (O'Reilly, 2002).
> Also, there is a Parsed-XML-Dev mailing list and a zope-xml list, both on
> zope.org.
> 
> Sean
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@acsnv.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:09 PM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] XML
> 
> 
> What is the best way to parse XML with Zope? I've been digging all over
> the site, and the docs there keep talking about adding an XML Document,
> but that option doesn't exist on my Zope server (2.6.0 on RH 8.0) and I
> can't find anything indicating that there needs to be a product
> installed.
> 
> Simply put, I want to be able to grab an XML document with webclient()
> and be able to parse the contents of the XML using DTML.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ruger@acsnv.com  Thu Mar  6 21:22:32 2003
From: ruger@acsnv.com (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 13:22:32 -0800
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
In-Reply-To: <15975.47301.467208.60164@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E674B42.7030706@bigorangelovebus.net>
 <15975.47301.467208.60164@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <1046985752.11039.8.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

We're using the 60-day trial of mxODBC
(http://www.egenix.com/files/python/mxODBC-Zope-DA.html) with iODBC
(http://www.iodbc.org/) which is free, and it's working great. I think
it costs $95.00 per Zope instance which is nominal.

Rick

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:08, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> andy wrote at 2003-3-6 13:21 +0000:
>  > Am I right in syaing that there is no such DA for zope running on linux? 
> 
> Please search for ZmxODBCDA. It is not free (in the sense of costless)
> and it requires an external ODBC driver (which, too, is not free).
> 
> 
> Dieter
> 
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From jj@nttmcl.com  Thu Mar  6 21:53:46 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:53:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
Message-ID: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>

Hi,

I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
(the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
application.  I assume my options are:

o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
  TransientObjectContainer.
o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
  job to implement auto-delete.

I welcome your advice.

Best Regards,
-jj

-- 
Hacker is to software engineer as 
Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From mehmety@auslin.com.au  Thu Mar  6 22:06:04 2003
From: mehmety@auslin.com.au (Mehmet Yousouf)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:06:04 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
In-Reply-To: <20030306133332.682672d7.jh@comunit.de>
References: <20030306.UHQ.29109800@carramar.auslin.com.au> <20030306133332.682672d7.jh@comunit.de>
Message-ID: <3E67C64C.5060108@carramar.auslin.com.au>

Thanks for the input, I am not happy with the "fix" but it will have to do till I get a better solution - only 5 computers will be using the program at a time (a manufacturing package for our bedlinen company) initially, each with a particular task so initially it should work, I will try putting in some checking to block anyone else printing the same information. This information can also only get printed once via this route.

Regards, Mehmet

Janko Hauser wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:09:04 +0000
>"Mehmet Yousouf" <mehmety@carramar.auslin.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>>I have tried sorting after the dtml-in command but the same story,
>>even doing a<dtml-var "SESSION[nameid']"> while zope renders it,
>>will not get converted to pdf..... if I save the file and use
>>hmtldoc -f nameid.pdf nameid.html --webpage, it works.
>>
>>    
>>
>
>The problem here is, that htmldoc makes its own request to the named
>page. This request doesn't know anything about your session, as it can
>not hanlde cookies or authentication.
>
>The solution you tried will break, if someone else will print the
>page.
>
>  
>




From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Thu Mar  6 22:11:52 2003
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 22:11:52 -0000
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D558@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D558@desi2>
Message-ID: <17008096.1046988712@[192.168.1.2]>


--On 06 March 2003 12:52 -0800 sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:

> ExternalEditor has problems with editors that detach from their parent
> process. I think the only way around this is to have an editor-specific
> plugin to deal with this.  I think there is one for Word, but not for
> notepad.

Really? I would dearly love to solve the "Word can only open one
file at a time with External Editor" limitation. I searched on
Google but to no avail.

If anyone can provide a pointer I'd be most grateful.

Paul

> Try MSWord or gvim instead, or consider figuring out how to
> make a plugin work for the editor of your choice.  I haven't done this,
> but I think there is info you can either google for or search list
> archives.
>
> Good Luck,
> Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:20 PM
> To: Tim; Michael Long; Zope
> Subject: Re: [Zope] External Editor
>
>
> Thanks for the reply. I am baffled because I have the same setup. If I
> use notepad.exe instead of gvim.exe I also get the same message. It must
> be a configuration issue specific to my machine. Does anyone else have
> any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
>> Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
>> > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
>>
>> I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
>> special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
>>
>> editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
>>
>> in the ZopeEdit.ini
>>
>> Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
>> this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
>> snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the
> number of
>> x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let
> alone. HDT
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar  6 22:11:02 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:11:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
Message-ID: <20030306221102.GB9402@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:53:46PM -0800, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> application.  I assume my options are:
> 
> o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
>   TransientObjectContainer.
> o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
>   job to implement auto-delete.

You forgot:
    
  o Build your own product that inherits from TransientObjectContainer.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar  6 22:20:10 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:20:10 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
In-Reply-To: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
References: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEDEDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>
Message-ID: <3E67C99A.4030700@agmweb.ca>

> If I have python installed on my PC, can I use that installation instead of
> that installed with Zope?  The reason is that I am having trouble installing
> the win32 library for python on the Zope python instance.  It fails to load
> pywise32.dll(?).  I'm using a Win98 machine.

I've never heard of pywise32.dll, what is that?

Anyway install the python version you want (eg from Python.org or from 
ActiveState) and edit start.bat (or the registry settings if its a 
service and replace the bit that says "python" with your python).

Its easy and you don't need to build anything unless you want to.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From pollej@uleth.ca  Thu Mar  6 22:30:01 2003
From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:30:01 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
Message-ID: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>

I'm pulling my hair out here. I'm sure the answer is simple.

How can I get to properties of an object from its ZCatalog entry?

I'm iterating through results, and want to do something special if the
result is a record for a PDF file. I know how to check the file to see
if its a PDF, but ZCatalog does not keep track of all the file contents.
I know there is a way to resolve the record ID into the actual object,
but I forget how and cannot find a reference to it.

Thanks,

Edward

----
For clarity, here is some of my code. I am looking for what to use
instead of ??
zIndex_Catalog is my Catalog. zIndexFileItem is my CatalogAware wrapper
ZClass for File.

searchresults = list(context.zIndex_Catalog.searchResults(blah blah
search params blah blah))
searchresults.sort( lambda x, y: cmp(x.title, y.title))
for result in searchresults:
if ((??.meta_type == 'File') or (??.meta_type == 'zIndexFileItem')):
     if (??.getContentType == "application/pdf"):
       PDF Specific Code Here




From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar  6 22:34:13 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:34:13 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030306221102.GB9402@slinkp.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com> <20030306221102.GB9402@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <3E67CCE5.1020000@agmweb.ca>

Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:53:46PM -0800, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> 
>>application.  I assume my options are:
>>
>>o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
>>o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
>>o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
>>  TransientObjectContainer.
>>o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
>>  job to implement auto-delete.
> 
> 
> You forgot:
>     
>   o Build your own product that inherits from TransientObjectContainer.

And:

o Monkey Patch your local Zope in the case it doesnt get accepted

-- 
   Andy McKay



From mlong@datalong.com  Thu Mar  6 22:33:44 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:33:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor (Solved)
Message-ID: <E18r3vs-0001oo-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

The problem is created by setting the "save_interval" greater than 4.
After changing the setting the error message went away.

Mike

> ExternalEditor has problems with editors that detach from their parent
> process. I think the only way around this is to have an editor-specific
> plugin to deal with this.  I think there is one for Word, but not for
> notepad.  Try MSWord or gvim instead, or consider figuring out how to
make a
> plugin work for the editor of your choice.  I haven't done this, but I
think
> there is info you can either google for or search list archives.
> 
> Good Luck,
> Sean
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:20 PM
> To: Tim; Michael Long; Zope
> Subject: Re: [Zope] External Editor
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply. I am baffled because I have the same setup. If I
> use notepad.exe instead of gvim.exe I also get the same message. It must
> be a configuration issue specific to my machine. Does anyone else have
> any ideas?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> > Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> > > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> > 
> > I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> > special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> > 
> > editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
> > 
> > in the ZopeEdit.ini
> > 
> > Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> > this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> > snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the
> number of
> > x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let
> alone. HDT
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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From jj@nttmcl.com  Thu Mar  6 22:38:49 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:38:49 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
Message-ID: <20030306223849.GC23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 05:11:02PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:53:46PM -0800, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > application.  I assume my options are:
> > 
> > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> >   job to implement auto-delete.
> 
> You forgot:
>     
>   o Build your own product that inherits from TransientObjectContainer.

Thank you for your comment!

Since Transience is an external product, I'd have to extend it externally.  
Hmm, I wish that was documented in "The Zope Book" :-/  It's also be 
somewhat "challenging" to implement a keys method--the only thing I can think
of is to extend the notify on add or delete methods to do housekeeping on the
keys before actually doing the user defined functions for notify on add or 
delete.  Sounds like a lot of work in comparison to just adding an already
existing keys method to the API.  I really don't want to have to manage a patch
unless it's added to Zope :-/

Best Regards,
-jj

-- 
Hacker is to software engineer as 
Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From jj@nttmcl.com  Thu Mar  6 22:43:19 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:43:19 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
In-Reply-To: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <20030306224319.GA24105@alicia.nttmcl.com>

Well, I'm new to this list, but I had a similar problem.  I just stuck the 
meta_type, etc. in the catalog using additional Metadata.  Afterally, the 
attributes you're referring to are small.

Best Regards,
-jj

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 03:30:01PM -0700, Edward Pollard wrote:
> I'm pulling my hair out here. I'm sure the answer is simple.
> 
> How can I get to properties of an object from its ZCatalog entry?
> 
> I'm iterating through results, and want to do something special if the
> result is a record for a PDF file. I know how to check the file to see
> if its a PDF, but ZCatalog does not keep track of all the file contents.
> I know there is a way to resolve the record ID into the actual object,
> but I forget how and cannot find a reference to it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Edward
> 
> ----
> For clarity, here is some of my code. I am looking for what to use
> instead of ??
> zIndex_Catalog is my Catalog. zIndexFileItem is my CatalogAware wrapper
> ZClass for File.
> 
> searchresults = list(context.zIndex_Catalog.searchResults(blah blah
> search params blah blah))
> searchresults.sort( lambda x, y: cmp(x.title, y.title))
> for result in searchresults:
> if ((??.meta_type == 'File') or (??.meta_type == 'zIndexFileItem')):
>      if (??.getContentType == "application/pdf"):
>        PDF Specific Code Here
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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-- 
Hacker is to software engineer as 
Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar  6 22:49:08 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:49:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] index_html
In-Reply-To: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
References: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
Message-ID: <3E67D064.1080104@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I grooved up my index_html in the root of zope. Are there any chances to
>correct this? I can't connect to the manage interface or to any plone sites
>any more.
>
>Can I edit index_html on some way direct on the linux command line?
>  
>
Other suggestions aside, you can get and put arbitrary files in Zope via 
FTP. That's pretty close to command-line.

          --jcc



From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar  6 22:53:12 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:53:12 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Can I choose my python installation?
In-Reply-To: <se6779ae.040@cts.umn.edu>
References: <se6779ae.040@cts.umn.edu>
Message-ID: <3E67D158.6000309@agmweb.ca>

> BUT I can't import modules from my Python and my Zope Control Panel
> still shows INSTANCE_HOME and SOFTWARE_HOME like this:
> 
> (Zope 2.6.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3,
> darwin5)
> Python Version
> 2.1.3 (#1, Feb 26 2003, 08:56:59) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)]
> System Platform darwin5
> SOFTWARE_HOME /Applications/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python
> ZOPE_HOME /Applications/Zope-2.6.1-src
> INSTANCE_HOME /Applications/Zope-2.6.1-src
> CLIENT_HOME /Applications/Zope-2.6.1-src/var
> 
> Am I just missing something here?  

You can define INSTANCE and SOFTWARE_HOMES in the start up script. See 
the section in the Zope Book. Please see the Zope book, 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/InstallingZope.stx, 

"Environment Variables that Effect Zope at Runtime"

And please keep this on the list, oher people may have the same question.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Thu Mar  6 23:04:18 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 00:04:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <15975.41784.601433.327070@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFCENHCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

From: Dieter Maurer
> Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-6 01:32 +0100:
>  > I've two forms who pass a similar record to their scripts.
> Each script does
>  > its own processing, "normalising" the record. The record is
> then passed to
>  > another script which does common processing and final storage
> in a table.
>
> You can pass dictionaries instead of records.
>

Yes, but I just needed to modify a maximum of two fields and in a set of 12.
It would result in ugly and inefficient code.

hmm, unless there's some way to automatically convert an object to a
dictionary? (like a list comprehension or dict())

For the record, the obvious solution is to take these two away from this
particular record, but a general solution would be better.

> An alternative:
>
>   "Products.PythonScripts.standard" defines the record
>   factory "Object" (maybe different case, check the source).
>
>   It returns a writable "record".

I tried this script:

import Products.PythonScripts.standard

ObjFields = Products.PythonScripts.standard.Object()
ObjFields = Fields
ObjFields.a_field = 10

and I got the same error:

> Error Type: TypeError
> Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)

Can you spot what's wrong?

Thanks,
Fernando



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar  6 23:07:17 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:07:17 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Problem with Linux installation
In-Reply-To: <20030306124555.71528.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030306124555.71528.qmail@web13408.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E67D4A5.5040502@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
> So I thought I'd try the second option. I typed:
>
> ./start.py -u admin
>
> The process seemed to go fine (opened datanbase, mounted database, 
> etc.) but a few seconds later I got a message:
>
> ERROR(200) z2 Can't find UID admin
>
> After experimenting a bit, I noticed that when I run ./start it 
> deletes the 'inituser' file at some point during opening and mounting 
> the database (as it appears anyway). So a few seconds later it looks 
> for admin and finds nothing.
>
> Am I doing something wrong here? I have successfully done the whole 
> thing in Windows 2000 (which of course is a different story, but 
> still) and I can't find anything in the documentation that I'm doing 
> wrong. I downloaded the zip file again and did the whole thing from 
> the beginning and it made no difference, so it is not a corrupted file 
> or anything like that. Can anyone help me on this? Thanks!
>
Is 'admin' a system user (as opposed to a Zope user)? It needs to be: 
the user you specify is the one Zope will run as after startup (Zope 
should not run as root, though it may need to start as root to listen on 
privileged ports.)

You should create a user for Zope to run as (I call mine 'zope') and 
specify that on the command line.

I can't say what's going wrong with your z2.py invokation, but you 
should probably run it with 'start' anyway.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar  6 23:14:36 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:14:36 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
In-Reply-To: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <3E67D65C.5040500@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm pulling my hair out here. I'm sure the answer is simple.
>
>How can I get to properties of an object from its ZCatalog entry?
>
>I'm iterating through results, and want to do something special if the
>result is a record for a PDF file. I know how to check the file to see
>if its a PDF, but ZCatalog does not keep track of all the file contents.
>I know there is a way to resolve the record ID into the actual object,
>but I forget how and cannot find a reference to it.
>  
>
Maybe this will help:

http://www.zope.org/Members/jccooper/zcatalogAndPT

I'm sure you can translate from ZPT to Python.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar  6 23:47:29 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 17:47:29 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Stupid dtml-if comparision
In-Reply-To: <000501c2e427$f7422580$65ebe680@WSLIS235101>
References: <000501c2e427$f7422580$65ebe680@WSLIS235101>
Message-ID: <3E67DE11.9000300@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm trying to compare two number, or at least I think they're numbers.
>
>If I do:
>   <dtml-var i>
>   <dtml-var j>
>   <dtml-if expr="i == j">
>     Equal block
>   </dtml-if>
>I and J print out the same, but do not compare to be equal since "Equal
>block" string doesn't print.
>  
>
Whenever I try this when they're the same type it works.

It they're not the same type it'll never work. Unfortunately the type() 
built-in isn't available in DTML or Python scripts (if you go to an 
ExternalMethod you should be able to use it.)

What you can try is this:

str(i)==str(j) to compare the string representations

or, if you're dealing with a certain type of number,

int(i)==int(j)
float(i)==float(j)

In DTML, you have to call these from the namespace '_' (underscore) as so:

_.str(i)==_.str(j)

          --jcc



From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Fri Mar  7 00:22:32 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:22:32 +1300
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Stupid dtml-if comparision
In-Reply-To: <3E67DE11.9000300@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <3E67DE11.9000300@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E67E648.2070301@d-designz.co.nz>

>
>
>... Unfortunately the type() 
>built-in isn't available in DTML or Python scripts (if you go to an 
>ExternalMethod you should be able to use it.)
>
You can, however, use same_type(var1, var2).
See http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/995873707



From ruger@acsnv.com  Fri Mar  7 00:17:00 2003
From: ruger@acsnv.com (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 16:17:00 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Easy one ...
Message-ID: <1046996220.11982.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

Ok .. this should be really easy but it's driving me nuts. How to I set
an attribute on a variable when it's being rendered inside of a
function? Here's what I mean:

<dtml-var "webClient('http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query=' +
querystring)">

I need to have the variable querystring render with url_quote_plus, but
for the life of me I can't figure out how to set it.

TIA

Rick






From chrism@ZOPE.COM  Fri Mar  7 00:40:51 2003
From: chrism@ZOPE.COM (Chris McDonough)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 19:40:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
Message-ID: <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james>

TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
and the Zope trunk it does...

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> application.  I assume my options are:
> 
> o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
>   TransientObjectContainer.
> o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
>   job to implement auto-delete.
> 
> I welcome your advice.
> 
> Best Regards,
> -jj
> 
> -- 
> Hacker is to software engineer as 
> Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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From jj@nttmcl.com  Fri Mar  7 01:02:10 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:02:10 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>

Chris, 

Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?

Best Regards,
-jj

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> and the Zope trunk it does...
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > application.  I assume my options are:
> > 
> > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > 
> > I welcome your advice.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > -jj
> > 
> > -- 
> > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists - 
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 

-- 
Hacker is to software engineer as 
Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Fri Mar  7 00:26:39 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 01:26:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <3E67B213.4090608@4-am.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFEENKCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Ah! Here it is ;-)

If this patch doesn't go into CVS, I'm willing to submit it to zope labs for
you, if you don't mind.

Albeit Dieter Maurer's solution is non-intrusive to Zope (after I get it to
work) this one makes it transparent for the (script) user ;-)

Cheers,
Fernando


Evan Simpson wrote:
> Fernando Martins wrote:
> > I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
> > (record).
> ...
> > Fields.a_field = 1
> >
> > I get the error
>
> I routinely patch Zope so that 'record' instances and the SQL Record
> subclasses that it generates are writable:
>
> (in $ZOPE/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py)
> class record:
>      # Allow access to record methods and values from DTML
>      __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1
>      _guarded_writes = 1
>
> (in $ZOPE/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/Result.py)
>          class r(Record, Implicit, brains, zbrains):
>              'Result record class'
>              _guarded_writes = 1
>
> I see no reason why 'record' objects shouldn't be mutable like this, but
> I've never discussed it with anyone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Evan @ 4-am
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ed@leafe.com  Fri Mar  7 01:41:22 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:41:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] XML
In-Reply-To: <1046985435.11039.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <E6B64C19-503D-11D7-99CA-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 04:17  PM, D. Rick Anderson wrote:

> Whoa .. ok. I was under the impression that Zope had built-in support
> for XML. If that's the case then I'll just send the data in CSV format.
> We have too many servers that will be pulling these reports and I want
> to keep the installed products down to a minimum.

	I wrote an XML parser in Python that I've been using with good 
results.  It has public methods for locating nodes by tag, retrieving 
content by tag, printing a tree of the DOM structure, and getting 
child/parent/sibling nodes of any node. Since I'm mostly using it to 
handle SOAP web services, there is also a simple way of getting the 
name of the method invoked by the SOAP call.
	
	Copy it to your Extensions folder; then it's just a matter of creating 
an External Method to get the DOM object. From there, the code is 
pretty simple. Here's an example:

	lcXML = context.REQUEST['BODY']
	loXML = context.xmlDOM(lcXML)
	lcMethod = loXML.getSOAPMethodName()
	lcLastName = loXML.contentByTag("lastname")
	...etc.

	You can download xmlDOM.py from my website: 
http://leafe.com/dls?dlSection=other

	Please let me know if you have any problems or questions.

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
  Ed Leafe
  http://leafe.com/
  http://opentech.leafe.com



From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Fri Mar  7 02:22:59 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 15:22:59 +1300
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
Message-ID: <3E680283.3020704@d-designz.co.nz>

<html>
  <head>
<title tal:content="template/title">Title</title>
 </head>
 <body tal:define="objects container/objectValues;temp 
python:objects.sort(lambda x, y: cmp(x.title.upper(), y.title.upper()))">
   <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title">Title</font>
  <ul tal:condition="objects">
    <tal:block repeat="item objects">
    <li tal:condition="python:item.id!=template.id">
          <span tal:replace="item/title">ITEM</span>
    </li>
    </tal:block>
  </ul>
  </body>
</html>

You could also use item/title_or_id if you wanted to display the id if 
the object has no title...

G. Clifford Williams wrote:

>I'm just starting to work with ZPT (as of today), the first question I
>have 
>is; Is there a way to keep "template/title" from being displayed in the
>list 
>that is generated by the tal:repeate directive?
>
>I'd like to generate a list of links that does not include the
>index_html 
>page.
>
>My second question is: Is there any way to sort the list that's
>generated?
>
>--The code that I have--
>
> <title tal:content="template/title">Title</title>
> </head>
> <body>
>   <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title">Title</font>
>  <UL tal:condition="container/objectValues">
>    <LI tal:repeat="item container/objectValues">
>          <span tal:replace="item/title">ITEM</span>
>    </LI>
>  </UL>
>
>thanks in advance
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>(Related lists - 
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>
>  
>



From rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net  Fri Mar  7 02:19:23 2003
From: rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net (John Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:19:23 +0800
Subject: [Zope] How to avoid recursive links and make it absolute???
Message-ID: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGGEMJCAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>

Hi below is my code that renders a link when  a document is created. My
question is:  How can i avoid recursive links and make it absolute url's?
Thanks.....

<div tal:define="auth_filter nocall: modules/ZTUtils/LazyFilter;
                   default_types python:( 'Document');
                   types types | here/show_content_types | default_types;
                   raw_items python:
here.contentValues(filter={'portal_type': types } );
                   items python: auth_filter( raw_items, skip='View' );
				   objects here/objectValues;
                   sort_on python:(('title', 'nocase', 'asc'),
				   ('bobobase_modification_time', 'cmp', 'desc'));
                   sorted_objects python:sequence.sort(items, sort_on)">
  <div tal:condition="items">
	<table width="100%" border="0">
	  <tr tal:repeat="item sorted_objects">
		<td class="ActionLink" align="center">
			   <a href="item_url" tal:attributes="href item/absolute_url"
				tal:content="item/Title"> Title </a>
		   </td>
	  </tr>
             </table>
   </div>
</div>






From claird@phaseit.net  Fri Mar  7 02:24:51 2003
From: claird@phaseit.net (Cameron Laird)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 21:24:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] standard_error_message frustrations
Message-ID: <E18r7XX-0000RJ-00@ns.purdue.org>

Let me get this straight:  to work as desired, a standard_error_message
must be a DTML Method, correct, but not a Python Script?

Standard_error_message isn't powerful enough to quiet Zope about what
it knows, right?  That is, even if standard_error_message contains,
for example, some minimally short text, clients will still see the
initial "Site Error ..." and trailing "Troubleshooting suggestions ..."?
There's no way to eliminate those?

I'm surprised I don't find more in the archives about standard_error_message.
I conclude either:
1.  other developers don't find exception-handling
    as important as I regard it; or
2.  I don't understand how to search the archives
    properly; or 
3.  both.


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Fri Mar  7 02:37:07 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:37:07 -0800
Subject: [Zope] standard_error_message frustrations
In-Reply-To: <E18r7XX-0000RJ-00@ns.purdue.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030306183052.01dc62c0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 06:24 PM 3/6/2003, Cameron Laird wrote:
>That is, even if standard_error_message contains,
>for example, some minimally short text, clients will still see the
>initial "Site Error ..." and trailing "Troubleshooting suggestions ..."?
>There's no way to eliminate those?
>
>I'm surprised I don't find more in the archives about standard_error_message.
>I conclude either:
>1.  other developers don't find exception-handling
>     as important as I regard it; or
>2.  I don't understand how to search the archives
>     properly; or
>3.  both.

Or:

4. You didn't realize it some of this is dependent on something other than 
standard_error_message, namely debug mode.

Remove the -D argument from your start script.

Also check out:
http://www.zope.org/Members/JohnC/StandardErrorMessage

HTH

Dylan



From jamie@audible.transient.net  Fri Mar  7 02:38:16 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:38:16 -0800
Subject: [Zope] standard_error_message frustrations
In-Reply-To: <E18r7XX-0000RJ-00@ns.purdue.org>
References: <E18r7XX-0000RJ-00@ns.purdue.org>
Message-ID: <20030307023815.GL17822@audible.transient.net>

> 2.  I don't understand how to search the archives properly;

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=zope&w=2&r=1&s=standard_error_message&q=b
http://www.zope.org/Members/JohnC/StandardErrorMessage

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"I was in love once -- a Sinclair ZX-81.  People said, "No, Holly, she's 
 not for you." She was cheap, she was stupid and she wouldn't load 
 -- well, not for me, anyway."				-Holly


From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 04:55:41 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 22:55:41 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Validating a Date
In-Reply-To: <1046419263.4905.116.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1046419263.4905.116.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1047012941.4949.21.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Thanks for the suggestions.

Since I have split d/m/y fields on the form using DateTime is a good
solution.

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 02:01, Edward Muller wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good module/product/hack that I can feed a date to
> and it will let me know if it's valid or not?
> 
> It should check leap years ... end days of the month and the like...
> 
> Thanks in advance... :-) 
-- 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:05:18 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:05:18 -0600
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>

With all this discussion on :record flags and :list flags can someone
point me to a good reference on the different :flags and how to use
them. Or just explain it! :-)



On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 17:12, Fernando Martins wrote:
> I've a script who gets two parameters from a form: Code (int), Fields
> (record).
> 
> In the script, I can assign to Code, say:
> 
> Code = 1
> 
> but if I try, say:
> 
> Fields.a_field = 1
> 
> I get the error:
> 
> > Error Type: TypeError
> > Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
> 
> Do I need some special syntax for that or is it simply not possible (and
> why)?
> 
> Regards,
> Fernando
> 
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:16:31 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:16:31 -0600
Subject: [Zope] sending a post request to a secure site (paypal) from a
 python script/external method
In-Reply-To: <AAEKJCEJLELMLOCENMHMEEPOCAAA.richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com>
References: <AAEKJCEJLELMLOCENMHMEEPOCAAA.richard.ettema@yoursolutions.com>
Message-ID: <1047014191.4949.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I do credit card authorization from zope via m2crypto

It's as simple as  ....

from M2Crypto import m2urllib
encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
url = m2urllib.FancyURLopener()
u = url.open('https://place.you.are.posting.to',encodedParams)
data = u.read()

This is in an external method.

Hope this helps with your paypal question...

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 05:47, Richard Ettema wrote:
> I'm trying to work out how to setup a python script and external method to
> post form data to a paypal https url.
> I basically want the user to click a button to pay for their selection which
> calls the python script, their order info is saved for our records, and then
> the external script passes onto paypal's secure server. Is this possible?
> 
> The closest I have got this to work is the palpay page displayed with images
> missing, but not on a secure connection. I assume the images are missing
> because the url in the address bar is that of the python script, not the
> paypal url. Should I be doing something different than a read() in the ext.
> method?
> 
> I have looked thru the examples in the urllib.py and urllib2.py but could
> not work out where I am going wrong, or if it is possible.
> I have seen comments about python must be built/installed with ssl support
> for secure connections to https urls, how do I work out if python was
> built/installed with this?
> 
> Running:
> system: freebsd
> Zope: 2.5.1
> python: 2.1.3
> 
> The python script: payBill
> 
> #########
> req = context.REQUEST
> form_dict = {}
> 
> order_ref = context.recordOrder()
> 
> form_dict['cmd'] = '_xclick'
> form_dict['business'] = 'test@test'
> form_dict['item_name'] = 'Services'
> form_dict['item_number'] = '%s' % order_ref
> form_dict['amount'] = '%.2f' % float(req['gdttl'])
> form_dict['return'] = '%s/services_thankyou' % req['URL']
> form_dict['cancel_return'] = '%s/services_thanks' % req['URL1']
> form_dict['no_note'] = 1
> form_dict['currency_code'] = req['currency_code']
> 
> #send info to external method
> url_req = context.payBillExt( 'https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr',
> form_dict )
> 
> return url_req
> ##########
> 
> The External Method: payBillExt
> 
> #########
> import urllib2
> import urllib
> 
> def urlRequestCreation(self, url, data):
>     """url"""
> 
>     url_data = urllib.urlencode( data )
>     url_req = urllib2.urlopen(url, url_data)
> 
>     return url_req.read()
> #########
> 
> Thanks for any pointers in the right direction.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From robeert@redcor.ch  Fri Mar  7 05:20:02 2003
From: robeert@redcor.ch (robert rottermann)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:20:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups: workaround, anyone?
References: <6D50509D.07993DFA.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <003c01c2e469$34b4ac30$c901a8c0@salome>

you have either a standard acl_users folder or a user folder with  groups.
So you have to create a nuxeo user folder some place, recreate  your
existing users there, erase the old folder, and move the new one to its
place. If you have lots of users (and want to keep their passwords) you have
to move them with a script. I think on zopelabs there is a receipe to do it.
If not I can send you one.
Robert
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From: <baiewola@netscape.net>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:58 PM
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups: workaround, anyone?


> My zope site is already created, and I did not create it with the idea
that I would be implementing user groups. Therefore, I already have an
acl_users folder at the top level of my site. All of my users are defined in
that folder, and all access throughout the site is inherited, except for a
few local roles assigned here and there.
>
> Now that I want to use NuxUserGroups, I have a problem: I cannot create
groups at the top level. Since I already have an acl_users folder, I get an
error when I try to create a "User Folder with Groups" at the root level. So
I can't simply move all my existing users into a different type of user
folder that supports groups.
>
> And when I create a "User Folder with Groups"at any other level, of course
my users from my root level acl_users folder are not recognized so they
cannot be added to groups. So if I want to add groups at any level, I have
to re-create all my users.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround to this? Or am I overlooking a product that
will let me do what I want (add groups to an existing site at the root
level)?
>
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:22:35 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:22:35 -0600
Subject: [Zope] VHM, siteroot, et. al.
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3122@SRV-03>
References: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3122@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <1047014555.4949.31.camel@localhost.localdomain>

yes, and you probably don't need to use siteroot with VHM. Just use VHM.

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 10:06, jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:
> If I run three sites at-
>  
> 	www.mydomain.com
> 	intranet.mydomain.com
> 	extranet.mydomain.com
> 
> And I map them to the following locations in my Zope using either VHM or
> siteroot-
> 
> 	/www
> 	/intranet
> 	/extranet
> 
> Will I still be able to accquire objects in the root container? For example,
> a shared database connection?
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:26:39 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:26:39 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: squirting variable definitions into macros using
 fill-slot
In-Reply-To: <3E664E31.9030700@4-am.com>
References: <m2fzq168vx.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
 <3E664E31.9030700@4-am.com>
Message-ID: <1047014798.4948.34.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I'm a moron!

I've been wondering how to pass variables to macros for a month now!

I use tal:define a bunch when needing to do various large lookups
multiple times (state select boxes for instance) ... 

It just never dawned on me to combine the two!

Whack! Whack! Whack!

Arg!

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 13:21, Evan Simpson wrote:
> Felix Ulrich-Oltean wrote:
> > I have a macro
> ...
> > I will be using it several times from the same template.  I want to be
> > able to pass in values for chosen_thing and the_name, but I can't
> > think how.
> 
> You can do this as follows:
> 
> <!-- macro def -->
> <div tal:define="chosen_thing request/chosen_thing|here/chosen_thing;
>                   the_name     request/the_name|here/the_name">
> <metal:block define-macro="conf_form">
>      <input type="radio"
>             tal:attributes="name the_name;
>                             checked python:chosen_thing=='a' or nothing;"
>             value="a" /> a <br />
>      <input type="radio"
>             tal:attributes="name the_name;
>                             checked python:chosen_thing=='b' or nothing;"
>             value="b" /> b <br />
> </metal:block>
> 
> <!-- macro use -->
> <div tal:define="chosen_thing some_value;
>                   the_name     some_other_value">
> <metal:block use-macro="template/macros/conf_form">
> </div>
> 
> If you wanted to look in 'request' and 'here' if the template doesn't 
> supply the value, put the <div> back inside the macro definition, but 
> change the defines to 'the_name | request/the_name | here/the_name'.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Evan @ 4-am
> 
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:28:36 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:28:36 -0600
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303051707570.5179-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <1047014916.4949.37.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I use something like the following to do the exact a same thing...

import string, urllib
from M2Crypto import m2urllib
encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
url = m2urllib.FancyURLopener()
u =url.open('https://secure.post/location',encodedParams)
data = u.read()

In an external method ... I use m2crypto because of good SSL support ...
You could probably use the regular httplib if you don't need SSL
support.

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:12, Ed Colmar wrote:
> Hi fellow zope hackers!
> 
> I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
> zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
> to post form data to a master server.
> 
> Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
> data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
> 
> So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
> the return data.  Is this the best way?
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> 
> -ed-
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:33:31 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:33:31 -0600
Subject: [Zope] context of a for loop
In-Reply-To: <20030306011249.52852.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030306011249.52852.qmail@web21408.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1047015211.4949.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Do all of the objects returned by getattr(context, item) have a
.editMetadata method. Or perhaps security is 'getting in the way' (i.e.
do you have rights to .editMetadata)

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:12, Fearless Froggie wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When you are going through a for loop, are you in the
> context of that for loop variable? Can you drop out of
> that for loop context and into the context of the
> script?
> 
> Example:
> 
> If I loop through a list of id's with a for loop and
> do something to each of these objects, I get a "You
> are not allowed to access editMetadata in this
> context". Here's the code (here I'm just changing the
> title of each of my items in my list 'id' to 'bob'): 
> 
> for item in id:
>    item_object = getattr(context, item)
>    item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')
> 
> But if I do these changes directly, it works fine:
> 
> item_object = getattr(context, id[0])
> item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')
> 
> So I'm guessing that the for loops puts me into
> another context. How do I get into the context of the
> object I want to edit? I've tried
> "context.item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')" and
> "container.item_object.editMetadata(title='bob')", but
> they didn't work either.
> 
> My script in all these cases is my custom skins
> directory.
> 
> Many thanks for any ideas on this. (And thank you once
> again for all the great ideas I've received for my
> past emails :)
> 
> Rita.
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:35:53 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:35:53 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope vs Twiki - Can someone provide a comparison
In-Reply-To: <D7E101DCBDDED5119A1000B0D06877E625BC7D@ex-sea-is.cobaltgroup.com>
References: <D7E101DCBDDED5119A1000B0D06877E625BC7D@ex-sea-is.cobaltgroup.com>
Message-ID: <1047015353.4948.42.camel@localhost.localdomain>

This will show my utter ignorance wrt Twiki ... but isn't Twiki just an
over-glorified wiki with some plugin interface to make it do non-Wiki
things?

On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:44, Nesbitt, Steve wrote:
> All:
> 
> I'm expecting a showdown between those who want to standardize on
> Twiki and me, who doesn't mind Twiki,  but doesn't want to move away
> from Zope/Plone.
> 
> Can anyone provide a quick overview between the two systems. In
> particular:
> 1) What problem space do the two systems address? Are they the same
> space or different space?
> 2) Where does Twiki shine in comparison to Zope (with Plone)
> 3) What things are hard to do in Twiki that are easy to do in Zope and
> vice versa?
> 
> I need a compelling argument for not converting my existing site to
> Twiki. Any help would be appreciated!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -steve
> 
> Steve Nesbitt
> Configuration Manager
> The Cobalt Group, Inc.
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 05:42:44 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 06 Mar 2003 23:42:44 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <200303060747.39492.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
 <48541845262.20030306024706@Vex.Net>
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Message-ID: <1047015764.4948.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Don't let that lull you. ZPTs help in the separation of logic (sorting
the list) and data (the list) and presentation (showing the sorted
list).

If you want a sorted list the best way to do it is to create a python
script to do the sorting of the list and return it.. This keeps the
tal:define/tal:conditions down to a minimum.

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 07:47, G. Clifford Williams wrote:
> hrmm looks like my enthusiasm for ZPT has hit a lull. Thanks for the help, 
> It's greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> On Thursday 06 March 2003 01:47 am, you wrote:
> > G. wrote on Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 10:38:58 PM:
> > > I'd like to generate a list of links that does not include the index_html
> > > page.
> >
> > Notice the tal:condition="python:item.getId()<>'index_html'" below.
> > Also notice the general use of object/title_or_id instead of just
> > object/title.
> >
> > > My second question is: Is there any way to sort the list that's
> > > generated?
> >
> > Sort is a bit awkward inside page templates. The sort part of this
> > code is basically ripped from the API reference in the Zope Book.
> > It does an insensitive sort on the title, then date.
> >
> >   <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title_or_id">Title</font>
> >   <UL tal:condition="container/objectValues"
> >       tal:define="objects here/objectValues;
> >                   sort_on python:(('title', 'nocase', 'asc'),
> >                                   ('bobobase_modification_time', 'cmp',
> > 'desc')); sorted_objects python:sequence.sort(objects, sort_on)"> <LI
> > tal:repeat="item sorted_objects">
> >           <span tal:define="i item/title_or_id"
> >                 tal:condition="python:item.getId()<>'index_html'"
> >                 tal:replace="i">ITEM</span>
> >     </LI>
> >   </UL>
> >
> > If you're wanting to do anything very complicated with lists, i'd just
> > write a python script to generate the list the way you want it, then
> > loop over that.
> 
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 06:07:32 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:07:32 -0600
Subject: [Zope] How to convert string to object?
In-Reply-To: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>
References: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost>
Message-ID: <1047017252.4949.61.camel@localhost.localdomain>

If your asking that question there is a possibility that you don't
understand zope acquisition. Which is all right ... I think we all
didn't get it at one point.

I assume you want to use index_html as a template (or wrapper) for the
content in some deeper folder?

If so all you need to do (sorry this is in zpt ... don't use dtml much
anymore)...

in a zpt in your root folder  ..

<html>
  <body>
    <div>
      or table or what not containing whatever you 
      want to appear before the "content"
    </div>
    <div tal:content="structure here/content"/>
    <div>
      or table or what not containing whatever you 
      want to appear after the "content"
    </div>
  </body>
</html>

Now just create folders ... and stick a file (dtml or zpt or python
script or whatever) called 'content' wherever you want it to appear.

So if I had a folder layout like the following: 

/articles/linux/2003/03/07/01

I would put a zpt (or dtml document/method) called 'content' in the
/articles/linux/2003/03/07/01 folder.

And when I surfed to:

http://server/articles/linux/2003/03/07/01

I would get the content file 'wrapped' with the index_html somewhere up
the folder 'path'.

You can further customize things by using macros and slots and all the
zpt goodies. Plus if you ever need to 'override' your index_html file
deeper in you folder 'tree' just create a new one at the highest level
you want to start using it.

Hope this helps 


On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 08:49, Lubos Culen wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Maybe this is more Python question, but because I'm using it with Zope, I'm 
> posting it here.
> 
> Let's suppose I have DTML Method called e.g. 'index_html' . It has one 
> input parameter 'obj' which contains name of existing file object inside 
> the directory tree. For example, the index_html file would be called as:
> 
> www.mysite.com/path/index_html?obj=path.to.object.file
> 
> Then in folder www.mysite.com/path/path/to/object/file in this example 
> would be the DTML document I'd like to be displayed. I have to make proper 
> code in the index_html file do do this.
> 
> I tried do following in index_html:
> 
> <dtml-var obj>
> 
> But this echoes only plain text ('path.to.object.file') and not the 
> object's content. I need to find some way how to convert this string to 
> object, so Zope (or Python) can understand it as an object and display its 
> content. Is there some way?
> 
> Thanks a lot for any answer!
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 06:08:26 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:08:26 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Invalid Page Template?
In-Reply-To: <8049925.1046976520@[192.168.0.3]>
References: <3E677A00.A1D6D08D@uleth.ca> <8049925.1046976520@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <1047017306.4949.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Call me stupid if you want ...

But can you tell me how to do this. :-) 

Sorry ... I love vim ... but am still learning it's features.

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 11:48, Andreas Jung wrote:
> My favourite is to run tidy against page templates using the -xml option.
> I mapped it to a function so I can check the template from within my editor
> (vim of course).
> 
> -aj
> 
> --On Donnerstag, 6. März 2003 09:40 -0700 Edward Pollard <pollej@uleth.ca> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Is there an easy way to tell if a Page Template is valid/invalid?
> > (Meaning the same check that gets done to see if the red exclaimation
> > mark should show up in the ZMI)
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 06:13:02 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:13:02 -0600
Subject: External Editor on the MAC ? Was: Re: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <69585360563.20030306145221@Vex.Net>
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
 <69585360563.20030306145221@Vex.Net>
Message-ID: <1047017582.4949.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Does an External Editor helper application exist? I have a client I
recently did a bunch of zope work for and their HTML designers are
getting a little annoyed with <textarea/>. And for security reasons the
client wants the FTP server disabled .. as well as DAV ... Even though I
explained ipchains/tables to them ...

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:52, Tim wrote:
> Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> 
> I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> 
> editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
> 
> in the ZopeEdit.ini
> 
> Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 06:18:00 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:18:00 -0600
Subject: [Zope] XML
In-Reply-To: <1046985435.11039.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D557@desi2>
 <1046985435.11039.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <1047017880.4949.72.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Are you generating XML?

Then if so the easiest way would be to use Zope Page Templates, there is
no reason a zpt can't generate non xhtml xml ... at least AFAIK.

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 15:17, D. Rick Anderson wrote:
> Whoa .. ok. I was under the impression that Zope had built-in support
> for XML. If that's the case then I'll just send the data in CSV format.
> We have too many servers that will be pulling these reports and I want
> to keep the installed products down to a minimum.
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:49, sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> > Download and use ParsedXML product (v. 1.3+), which created persistent DOM
> > documents; use standard DOM API to access, traverse, read, and write data
> > from these documents.  This will require that you have the PyXML package
> > installed for the version of python you are using to run Zope in your linux
> > distro (http://pyxml.sf.net).  Note: PyXML is used to provide the pyexpat
> > parser interface to the expat parser, included.
> > 
> > You might also be able to parse your document without storing it in Zope
> > without even using ParsedXML (it sounds like this is what you want to do?).
> > If this is what you are looking to do, use the PyDOM dom implementation that
> > comes with PyXML, and write a parsing script in a Python module; then write
> > an external method that uses that module.  This should be pretty easy.
> > 
> > Get a copy of the book Python & XML by Jones and Drake (O'Reilly, 2002).
> > Also, there is a Parsed-XML-Dev mailing list and a zope-xml list, both on
> > zope.org.
> > 
> > Sean
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@acsnv.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:09 PM
> > To: zope@zope.org
> > Subject: [Zope] XML
> > 
> > 
> > What is the best way to parse XML with Zope? I've been digging all over
> > the site, and the docs there keep talking about adding an XML Document,
> > but that option doesn't exist on my Zope server (2.6.0 on RH 8.0) and I
> > can't find anything indicating that there needs to be a product
> > installed.
> > 
> > Simply put, I want to be able to grab an XML document with webclient()
> > and be able to parse the contents of the XML using DTML.
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 06:22:13 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:22:13 -0600
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>
Message-ID: <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?

You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...

I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
code.

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> Chris, 
> 
> Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> 
> Best Regards,
> -jj
> 
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > 
> > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > 
> > > I welcome your advice.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > -jj
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > > 
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> > 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 06:26:02 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 00:26:02 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
In-Reply-To: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <1047018362.4948.79.camel@localhost.localdomain>


tal:define="url python: result.getpath(result.data_record_id_)"

and results are defined as

<div tal:define="results here/SiteCatalog">

somewhere above that ..


On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:30, Edward Pollard wrote:
> I'm pulling my hair out here. I'm sure the answer is simple.
> 
> How can I get to properties of an object from its ZCatalog entry?
> 
> I'm iterating through results, and want to do something special if the
> result is a record for a PDF file. I know how to check the file to see
> if its a PDF, but ZCatalog does not keep track of all the file contents.
> I know there is a way to resolve the record ID into the actual object,
> but I forget how and cannot find a reference to it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Edward
> 
> ----
> For clarity, here is some of my code. I am looking for what to use
> instead of ??
> zIndex_Catalog is my Catalog. zIndexFileItem is my CatalogAware wrapper
> ZClass for File.
> 
> searchresults = list(context.zIndex_Catalog.searchResults(blah blah
> search params blah blah))
> searchresults.sort( lambda x, y: cmp(x.title, y.title))
> for result in searchresults:
> if ((??.meta_type == 'File') or (??.meta_type == 'zIndexFileItem')):
>      if (??.getContentType == "application/pdf"):
>        PDF Specific Code Here
> 
> 
> 
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From rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net  Fri Mar  7 07:28:08 2003
From: rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net (John Paul)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 15:28:08 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Multiple sites using one CMF Site....
Message-ID: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGMEMJCAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>

Hi Is it possible to serve different website using one CMF Site and
separating each site with a folder? And is it advisable to put CMF Core Tool
in each folder?  Thanks.....




From marius@codeworks.lt  Fri Mar  7 07:45:17 2003
From: marius@codeworks.lt (Marius Gedminas)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:45:17 +0200
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <20030307074517.GB2250@codeworks.lt>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 01:18:44PM -0500, Michael Long wrote:
> I have installed the External Editor client on windows XP Pro and
> configured it to use gvim. First let me say that this is a great
> product. I am having a problem whenever I close a file after editing it.
> I get an error message saying that "External editor lost connection to
> editor process." The only thing I have been able to find is this is from
> the External editor site:
>
> *If the editor launches, but the helper app complains that it lost its
> connection to the editor process, this is because your editor detached
> from the parent process (the helper app). Configure the editor such that
> it does not do this. Unfortunately, many MDI applications do this and
> cannot be configured otherwise. Look for a solution to this in a later
> version of external editor.
> 
> Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?

On Linux I have to specify 'gvim -f' as the editor.  Perhaps this would
help on XP as well.

Marius Gedminas
-- 
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From mas@semafor.ch  Fri Mar  7 08:41:34 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:41:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL: auto_increment ?
Message-ID: <3E685B3E.20802@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

Isn't it possible to create a Table with an auto incremental id?

Do I always have to set it manually?

   Thanks
   -mas



From kaiser@xo7.de  Fri Mar  7 08:56:36 2003
From: kaiser@xo7.de (Andreas Kaiser)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 09:56:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSQL: auto_increment ?
In-Reply-To: <3E685B3E.20802@semafor.ch>
References: <3E685B3E.20802@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <578684609.1047030995@[192.168.2.4]>

depends on your database system. some support auto inc fields, others not.=20
this has nothing to do with zope / zsql methods at all.

andreas

--On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 09:41 +0100 Sorin Marti <mas@semafor.ch> =
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Isn't it possible to create a Table with an auto incremental id?
>
> Do I always have to set it manually?
>
>    Thanks
>    -mas
>
>
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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Fri Mar  7 09:20:52 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
In-Reply-To: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <200303071020.52039.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Thursday 06 March 2003 23:30, Edward Pollard wrote:
> I'm pulling my hair out here. I'm sure the answer is simple.
>
> How can I get to properties of an object from its ZCatalog entry?
>
> I'm iterating through results, and want to do something special if the
> result is a record for a PDF file. I know how to check the file to see
> if its a PDF, but ZCatalog does not keep track of all the file contents.
> I know there is a way to resolve the record ID into the actual object,
> but I forget how and cannot find a reference to it.
>
> ----
> For clarity, here is some of my code. I am looking for what to use
> instead of ??
> zIndex_Catalog is my Catalog. zIndexFileItem is my CatalogAware wrapper
> ZClass for File.
>
> searchresults = list(context.zIndex_Catalog.searchResults(blah blah
> search params blah blah))
> searchresults.sort( lambda x, y: cmp(x.title, y.title))
> for result in searchresults:
> if ((??.meta_type == 'File') or (??.meta_type == 'zIndexFileItem')):
>      if (??.getContentType == "application/pdf"):
>        PDF Specific Code Here


The method to use on the ZCatalog result record is "getObject()".
So you may have an improved version of your code like this :

  query = {}
  query['param1'] = value1
  query['param2'] = value2
  query['sort_on'] = 'title'
  for result in context.zIndex_Catalog.searchResults (query):
    if result.meta_type in ['File','zIndexFileItem']:
      object = result.getObject()
      if object.getContentType == 'application/pdf':
        <PDF specific code>

This should work (as long as 'meta_type' is in your ZCatalog metadatas).

  Thierry


From Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk  Fri Mar  7 10:17:34 2003
From: Ed.Crewe@bristol.ac.uk (Ed Crewe)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:17:34 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6.1 changed default number format
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303040949270.6831-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0303071015290.16805-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

Hi Again,

Just for the record the integer bug in DCOracle2 is fixed by
using the recently released Beta version...

http://dev.nzo.zope.org/Members/matt/dco2/dco213bannounce

Cheers,
Ed

 __________________________________________________________________
 Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
 Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
 University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk

On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ed Crewe wrote:

> Hi Again,
>
> Sorry I have just realised that the bug occurs after the sql execution
> so trunc(2.34) may return 2 but it will come back as 2.0 via DCOracle2.
>
> Anyone found a fix for this other than explicit type formatting via dtml
> / external python throughout a site?
>
> Cheers,
> Ed
>
>  __________________________________________________________________
>  Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
>  Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
>  University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
>  8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
>
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Ed Crewe wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
> >
> > Thanks for the response. Appologies this is my mistake. It is not a Zope
> > version issue, it is a DCOracle issue.
> >
> > I have a site that is a front end to an Oracle database so nearly all
> > data is passed via the DCOracle interface. I have just realised that
> > DCOracle2 passes all integers as single decimal place floating points
> > whilst DCOracle1 didn't have this bug.
> >
> > Thus select count(*) from an empty table returns 0.0!
> >
> > Similarily all the primary keys that are passed around between pages
> > have .0 appended.
> >
> > I have realised the solution is to wrap every integer field in TRUNC()
> > in all the sql methods to avoid this bug.
> >
> > Thus select trunc(count(*)) from table works OK.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ed
> >
> >  __________________________________________________________________
> >  Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
> >  Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
> >  University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
> >  8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Chris Beaven wrote:
> >
> > > I just tried a DTML in 2.6.1 and it looked like everything was working
> > > as it should:
> > >
> > > <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3)">
> > > <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('link_id', 3.0)">
> > > <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > >
> > > Returned:
> > >
> > > 0
> > > 3
> > > 3.0
> > >
> > > Ed Crewe wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >Rather than do uneccesary work can I just enquire about
> > > >whether recent numeric handling changes in Zope 2.6.1 are intentional or
> > > >might they be reversed?
> > > >
> > > >Zope 2.6.1 has changed the default dtml number display format from
> > > >integer to one decimal place floating point.
> > > >This breaks any sites that use dtml integer display.
> > > >
> > > >Was this a deliberate change? If so what is the recommended solution for
> > > >replacing dtml such as <dtml-var link_id missing="0">
> > > >Should all dtml integer rendering be replaced with
> > > >
> > > ><dtml-if "_.has_key('link_id')"><dtml-var link_id
> > > >fmt="%i"><dtml-else>0</dtml-if>
> > > >
> > > >or is there an economical way of displaying an integer in dtml?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Ed Crewe
> > > >
> > > > __________________________________________________________________
> > > > Ed Crewe    ( Web Developer - ID Group )       ed.crewe@bris.ac.uk
> > > > Institute for Learning and Research Technology                ILRT
> > > > University of Bristol Information Services         +44 117 9287083
> > > > 8-10 Berkeley Square, Bristol, BS8 1HH  http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >_______________________________________________
> > > >Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > >http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > >**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > >(Related lists -
> > > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



From mas@semafor.ch  Fri Mar  7 10:37:47 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:37:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
Message-ID: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

I want to execute a Script from Zope.

I created a file in the 'Extensions' directory containig following code:

[code]

#!/bin/sh
echo DEFANGED.23
exit
#!/usr/bin/python

import os

os.system( 'ls' )

[/code]

If I want to execute this script, how do I do that?

Thanks
   -mas



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Fri Mar  7 10:42:46 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:42:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch>
References: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <68895346.1047037366@[192.168.0.3]>

You can not start shell skripts from Zope. At least on directly.
Create an ExternalMethod that starts your script using os.system()
or os.popen(). Check with the Zope Book for details.

-aj

--On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 11:37 +0100 Sorin Marti <mas@semafor.ch> =
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I want to execute a Script from Zope.
>
> I created a file in the 'Extensions' directory containig following code:
>
> [code]
>
># !/bin/sh
> echo DEFANGED.23
> exit
># !/usr/bin/python
>
> import os
>
> os.system( 'ls' )
>
> [/code]
>
> If I want to execute this script, how do I do that?
>
> Thanks
>    -mas
>
>
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From thorsten.harms@arche.ag  Fri Mar  7 12:01:29 2003
From: thorsten.harms@arche.ag (Thorsten Harms)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:01:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problems with msie 6
Message-ID: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag>

Hi!

I'm quite new to zope and I have a little problem with msie 6:

I created a formulator form. When it is submitted a python script is 
called that validates the entries and then calls a zsql method that 
inserts them in a mysql table. With Mozilla, msie 5.X all works fine, 
but using msie 6 the entries are inserted two or three times. No error 
messages appear in the  error_log so I have no idea where to look.

(Zope version is 2.6.0, formulator version is 1.2.0)

Any hints?

Thanks in advance

Thorsten Harms



From zoper@libero.it  Fri Mar  7 12:29:36 2003
From: zoper@libero.it (Zoper)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:29:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Virtual Host Newbie
Message-ID: <005901c2e4a5$3795dbe0$18281a97@sorpippo>

Hi All.
I started playing with VHM, but I have some problem.
This is my apache configuration.

        NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80
         <VirtualHost 127.0.0.1>
         ServerName www1.antonella.it
         RewriteEngine on
         RewriteRule ^/(.*)
http://127.0.0.1:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www1.antonella.it:80/www1/Virtual
HostRoot/$1 [P]
        </VirtualHost>

I have a folder www1 on Zope. When I send this request

  http://www1.antonella.it

I obtain the index_html object present in the www1 folder

  <dtml-var standard_html_header>
  <!-- index_html -->
  <p>
  l'home page
  </p>
  <p><a href="ciao">Ciao a tutti<a></p>
  <dtml-var standard_html_footer>

Ok, but when I click on ciao (it exist) I obtain nothing more then a refresh
of index_html. Why?

Best regards.

Gius.




From u.theiss@eurodata.de  Fri Mar  7 12:32:35 2003
From: u.theiss@eurodata.de (Ulla Theiss)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:32:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZODB: Are all handles closed?
Message-ID: <3E689163.DA3B5D45@eurodata.de>

Hello list,

in our product (and additionally in an other process) we use separate
ZODB-Storages.

Opening and closing the ZODB several times the number of file-handles
increases.

We have separated the multiple openings and closings to the following
code.
It shows the increasing of the handles clearly.

Have we forgotten to clear anything or made anything wrong? 
If not, has anybody an idea, how to fix or work around the problem.

----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------
from ZODB import FileStorage, DB

for i in range (1,100):
    storage=FileStorage.FileStorage("TestZODB.fs")
    db = DB(storage)
    db.open()
    print "Open"
    db.close()
    print "Close"
    storage.close()
----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------

Enother nice behaviour we can achieve with the following code:

----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------
from ZODB import FileStorage, DB

storage=FileStorage.FileStorage("TestZODB.fs")
db = DB(storage)

for i in range (1,100):
    db.open()
    print "Open"
    db.close()
    print "Close"
    storage.close()
----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------

It works about seven times. Then the programm hangs completely.

Much thanks in advance,
Ulla.



From jens@zope.com  Fri Mar  7 13:03:03 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB: Are all handles closed?
In-Reply-To: <3E689163.DA3B5D45@eurodata.de>
Message-ID: <21DF2219-509D-11D7-8D41-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

i cannot directly answer the question, but i suggest (if you haven't 
already done so) that you also ask this question in zodb-dev@zope.org, 
that's where most of the interested parties hang out.

jens


On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 07:32 US/Eastern, Ulla Theiss wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> in our product (and additionally in an other process) we use separate
> ZODB-Storages.
>
> Opening and closing the ZODB several times the number of file-handles
> increases.
>
> We have separated the multiple openings and closings to the following
> code.
> It shows the increasing of the handles clearly.
>
> Have we forgotten to clear anything or made anything wrong?
> If not, has anybody an idea, how to fix or work around the problem.
>
> ----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------
> from ZODB import FileStorage, DB
>
> for i in range (1,100):
>     storage=FileStorage.FileStorage("TestZODB.fs")
>     db = DB(storage)
>     db.open()
>     print "Open"
>     db.close()
>     print "Close"
>     storage.close()
> ----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------
>
> Enother nice behaviour we can achieve with the following code:
>
> ----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------
> from ZODB import FileStorage, DB
>
> storage=FileStorage.FileStorage("TestZODB.fs")
> db = DB(storage)
>
> for i in range (1,100):
>     db.open()
>     print "Open"
>     db.close()
>     print "Close"
>     storage.close()
> ----------------------------------snip------snap---------------------
>
> It works about seven times. Then the programm hangs completely.
>
> Much thanks in advance,
> Ulla.



From baiewola@netscape.net  Fri Mar  7 13:07:26 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:07:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups: workaround, anyone?
Message-ID: <35912C29.6E100D5F.00923364@netscape.net>

But how can I do this at the root level? Once I erase my acl_users folder, won't I lose access to my entire site? 



"robert rottermann" <robeert@redcor.ch> wrote:

>you have either a standard acl_users folder or a user folder with  groups.
>So you have to create a nuxeo user folder some place, recreate  your
>existing users there, erase the old folder, and move the new one to its
>place. If you have lots of users (and want to keep their passwords) you have
>to move them with a script. I think on zopelabs there is a receipe to do it.
>If not I can send you one.
>Robert
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <baiewola@netscape.net>
>To: <zope@zope.org>
>Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:58 PM
>Subject: [Zope] NuxUserGroups: workaround, anyone?
>
>
>> My zope site is already created, and I did not create it with the idea
>that I would be implementing user groups. Therefore, I already have an
>acl_users folder at the top level of my site. All of my users are defined in
>that folder, and all access throughout the site is inherited, except for a
>few local roles assigned here and there.
>>
>> Now that I want to use NuxUserGroups, I have a problem: I cannot create
>groups at the top level. Since I already have an acl_users folder, I get an
>error when I try to create a "User Folder with Groups" at the root level. So
>I can't simply move all my existing users into a different type of user
>folder that supports groups.
>>
>> And when I create a "User Folder with Groups"at any other level, of course
>my users from my root level acl_users folder are not recognized so they
>cannot be added to groups. So if I want to add groups at any level, I have
>to re-create all my users.
>>
>> Does anyone have a workaround to this? Or am I overlooking a product that
>will let me do what I want (add groups to an existing site at the root
>level)?
>>
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From mas@semafor.ch  Fri Mar  7 13:20:02 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:20:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
References: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch> <68895346.1047037366@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <3E689C82.7090007@semafor.ch>

Andreas Jung wrote:

> 
> You can not start shell skripts from Zope. At least on directly.
> Create an ExternalMethod that starts your script using os.system()
> or os.popen(). Check with the Zope Book for details.
> 
> -aj


First of all: Thanks to Andreas for answering my questions all the time!

I read stuff in the python manual about os.system() and I read a 
tutorial about External methods on zope.org

Now I've got following code:


--------------------
def ltoh(self):
     """Compile TeX-File"""
     import os
     msg = os.system( 'latex2html /home/mas/test.tex' )
     if msg == 0:
         return 'Successfull'
     else:
         return 'Not Successfull'

--------------------

That works fine. Now I want to pass a parameter (the filename) and that 
doesn't work.

How do I pass parameters? I tried a few things but nothing worked...
A link to a good tutorial or manual would be great also.

Thanks in Advance
   -mas



From sabaini@inode.at  Fri Mar  7 13:35:11 2003
From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:35:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E689C82.7090007@semafor.ch>
References: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch> <68895346.1047037366@[192.168.0.3]> <3E689C82.7090007@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <3E68A00F.6060000@inode.at>

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See the example in the Zope Book, 2.6 edition:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ScriptingZope.stx

Theres an example where a parameter gets passed to an External Method

hth
peter.

Sorin Marti wrote:
> Andreas Jung wrote:
> 
>>
>> You can not start shell skripts from Zope. At least on directly.
>> Create an ExternalMethod that starts your script using os.system()
>> or os.popen(). Check with the Zope Book for details.
>>
>> -aj
> 
> 
> 
> First of all: Thanks to Andreas for answering my questions all the time!
> 
> I read stuff in the python manual about os.system() and I read a 
> tutorial about External methods on zope.org
> 
> Now I've got following code:
> 
> 
> --------------------
> def ltoh(self):
>     """Compile TeX-File"""
>     import os
>     msg = os.system( 'latex2html /home/mas/test.tex' )
>     if msg == 0:
>         return 'Successfull'
>     else:
>         return 'Not Successfull'
> 
> --------------------
> 
> That works fine. Now I want to pass a parameter (the filename) and that 
> doesn't work.
> 
> How do I pass parameters? I tried a few things but nothing worked...
> A link to a good tutorial or manual would be great also.
> 
> Thanks in Advance
>   -mas
> 
> 


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From jwashin@vt.edu  Fri Mar  7 13:38:33 2003
From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:38:33 -0500
Subject: External Editor on the MAC ? Was: Re: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <1047017582.4949.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com> <69585360563.20030306145221@Vex.Net> <1047017582.4949.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E68A0D9.8070208@vt.edu>

Which Mac OS?  If OS X, would they mind using X11 apps?

-- Jim Washington

Edward Muller wrote:
> Does an External Editor helper application exist? I have a client I
> recently did a bunch of zope work for and their HTML designers are
> getting a little annoyed with <textarea/>. And for security reasons the
> client wants the FTP server disabled .. as well as DAV ... Even though I
> explained ipchains/tables to them ...
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:52, Tim wrote:
> 
>>Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
>>
>>>Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
>>
>>I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
>>special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
>>
>>editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
>>
>>in the ZopeEdit.ini
>>
>>Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
>>this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
>>snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.




From michael.healy@engitech.ie  Fri Mar  7 13:40:52 2003
From: michael.healy@engitech.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Miche=E1l_Healy?=)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:40:52 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E689C82.7090007@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELGEFADEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>

Try the example here.
http://www.zope.org/Members/pbrunet/ExternalMethodsBasicSummary

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Sorin
Marti
Sent: 07 March 2003 13:20
To: Andreas Jung; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope

Andreas Jung wrote:

>
> You can not start shell skripts from Zope. At least on directly.
> Create an ExternalMethod that starts your script using os.system()
> or os.popen(). Check with the Zope Book for details.
>
> -aj


First of all: Thanks to Andreas for answering my questions all the time!

I read stuff in the python manual about os.system() and I read a
tutorial about External methods on zope.org

Now I've got following code:


--------------------
def ltoh(self):
     """Compile TeX-File"""
     import os
     msg = os.system( 'latex2html /home/mas/test.tex' )
     if msg == 0:
         return 'Successfull'
     else:
         return 'Not Successfull'

--------------------

That works fine. Now I want to pass a parameter (the filename) and that
doesn't work.

How do I pass parameters? I tried a few things but nothing worked...
A link to a good tutorial or manual would be great also.

Thanks in Advance
   -mas


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From zope@floSoft.net  Fri Mar  7 13:41:38 2003
From: zope@floSoft.net (fritz steindl)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:41:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E689C82.7090007@semafor.ch>
References: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch> <68895346.1047037366@[192.168.0.3]> <3E689C82.7090007@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <E18rIBg-0007Q2-00@mail.python.org>

Am Freitag, 7. März 2003 14:20 erhalten:

> Now I've got following code:
>
>
> --------------------
> def ltoh(self):
>      """Compile TeX-File"""
>      import os
>      msg = os.system( 'latex2html /home/mas/test.tex' )
>      if msg == 0:
>          return 'Successfull'
>      else:
>          return 'Not Successfull'
>
> --------------------

seems to be a class method (self ?)

if not, call from a python scipt inside zope

print container.Itoh(param)
return printed


fritz
(-:fs)



From casey@zope.com  Fri Mar  7 14:37:29 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:37:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <E18r1qo-0004q8-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18r1qo-0004q8-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <200303070937.29683.casey@zope.com>

You might try:

editor =3D c:\path\to\vim -f

or=20

editor =3D c:\path\to\vim /f

Not sure how it parses switches on Windows.

It doesn't do this on my windoze box though, it launches gvim just fine w=
ith=20
no options. I really can't explain notepad either. That never detaches un=
less=20
they changed it significantly on XP, hehe.  AFAIK notepad hasn't been tou=
ched=20
for years.

It might mean something different is wrong, although I can't say what.=20

-Casey

On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:20 pm, Michael Long wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. I am baffled because I have the same setup. If I
> use notepad.exe instead of gvim.exe I also get the same message. It mus=
t
> be a configuration issue specific to my machine. Does anyone else have
> any ideas?
>=20
> Cheers,
> Mike
>=20
> > Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> > > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> >=20
> > I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> > special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> >=20
> > editor =3D h:\vim\gvim.exe
> >=20
> > in the ZopeEdit.ini
> >=20
> > Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> > this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> > snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
> >=20
> > --=20
> > Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the
> number of
> > x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let
> alone. HDT
> >=20



From casey@zope.com  Fri Mar  7 14:39:31 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:39:31 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <17008096.1046988712@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D558@desi2> <17008096.1046988712@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <200303070939.31876.casey@zope.com>

On Thursday 06 March 2003 05:11 pm, Paul Browning wrote:
> --On 06 March 2003 12:52 -0800 sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
>=20
> > ExternalEditor has problems with editors that detach from their paren=
t
> > process. I think the only way around this is to have an editor-specif=
ic
> > plugin to deal with this.  I think there is one for Word, but not for
> > notepad.
>=20
> Really? I would dearly love to solve the "Word can only open one
> file at a time with External Editor" limitation. I searched on
> Google but to no avail.
>=20
> If anyone can provide a pointer I'd be most grateful.
>=20
> Paul

There is plugin code in CVS for all the MS office apps. It will be releas=
ed=20
sometime before I die, but until then feel free to drink directly from th=
e=20
source.

-Casey


From casey@zope.com  Fri Mar  7 14:40:32 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:40:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor (Solved)
In-Reply-To: <E18r3vs-0001oo-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18r3vs-0001oo-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <200303070940.32132.casey@zope.com>

Hmm, that sounds like a bug, I'll see about that before 0.7...

Thanks.

-Casey

On Thursday 06 March 2003 05:33 pm, Michael Long wrote:
> The problem is created by setting the "save_interval" greater than 4.
> After changing the setting the error message went away.
>=20
> Mike
>=20
> > ExternalEditor has problems with editors that detach from their paren=
t
> > process. I think the only way around this is to have an editor-specif=
ic
> > plugin to deal with this.  I think there is one for Word, but not for
> > notepad.  Try MSWord or gvim instead, or consider figuring out how to
> make a
> > plugin work for the editor of your choice.  I haven't done this, but =
I
> think
> > there is info you can either google for or search list archives.
> >=20
> > Good Luck,
> > Sean
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:20 PM
> > To: Tim; Michael Long; Zope
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] External Editor
> >=20
> >=20
> > Thanks for the reply. I am baffled because I have the same setup. If =
I
> > use notepad.exe instead of gvim.exe I also get the same message. It m=
ust
> > be a configuration issue specific to my machine. Does anyone else hav=
e
> > any ideas?
> >=20
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >=20
> > > Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> > > > Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> > >=20
> > > I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> > > special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> > >=20
> > > editor =3D h:\vim\gvim.exe
> > >=20
> > > in the ZopeEdit.ini
> > >=20
> > > Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> > > this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> > > snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
> > >=20
> > > --=20
> > > Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the
> > number of
> > > x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let
> > alone. HDT
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >=20
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> >=20
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> >=20
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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From d.chirila@bucarest.finsiel.ro  Fri Mar  7 15:49:47 2003
From: d.chirila@bucarest.finsiel.ro (Dragos Chirila)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:49:47 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Test for 'View' permission
Message-ID: <00ba01c2e4c1$2e7dc290$2f01a8c0@dchirila>

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Hi

I have a Python script witch takes a list of Zope objects and returns =
only the objects with 'View' permission for Anonymous users.
The script is called by a Zope Manager.
How do I do that ??

10x

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From baiewola@netscape.net  Fri Mar  7 16:30:18 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Verbose Security
Message-ID: <697F2F77.11478995.00923364@netscape.net>

Where does Verbose Security show information about failed access under Zope 2.5.x? 

The readme says "All of this information appears in the exception message when access is denied." However, I haven't been able to find anything in the traceback except the usual information. 

Do I have to be running in debug mode?


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From michael@nichestaffing.com  Fri Mar  7 16:42:08 2003
From: michael@nichestaffing.com (Michael Lewis)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 09:42:08 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & ZCTextIndex Help?
Message-ID: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I am currently running Zope 2.44, Python 2.13, and Apache 1.3.22 on a
RedHat 8 server which is pretty stable.  I need to upgrade to at least
2.6 to take advantage of ZCTextIndex, as I want to have the ability to
do exact phrase searches.  Also, any pointers as to how to reindex after
installing would be appreciated.

What is the most stable combination of Zope 2.6/Python/Apache?  I had to
use Apache 1.3.22 at the time because .23 and .24 had cookie handling
problems.

Michael
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From michael.healy@engitech.ie  Fri Mar  7 17:10:04 2003
From: michael.healy@engitech.ie (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Miche=E1l_Healy?=)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:10:04 -0000
Subject: [Zope] COMObject product question
Message-ID: <NGBBLBLDILNNBGBHLMELEEFCDEAA.michael.healy@engitech.ie>

Hi,

Has anybody used the COMObject product package much?  I have been trying =
on
and off to put data into an existing Excel template and display the resul=
t
within the browser.  I can do it using an external method to populate the
spreadsheet and save it, then using the LocalFS product to retrieve the f=
ile
and return it to the browser.

This is all fine, but I was wondering if there wasn't a better way.  Does
anyone know if it's possible to return the Excel file to Zope as a COM
object (without having to save the file to the local filesystem of the
server) and just sent it to the browser as binary content, setting the
content type.  Does the COMObject product work like this?

Thanks,

Miche=E1l

Miche=E1l Healy
Engitech Ltd.
01 6204 516




From alet@librelogiciel.com  Fri Mar  7 17:36:17 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:36:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Executing Scripts in Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch>
References: <3E68767B.6090306@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <20030307173617.GB12329@mail.librelogiciel.com>

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:37:47AM +0100, Sorin Marti wrote:

> If I want to execute this script, how do I do that?

Install ZShellScripts, they are made for these.

get them at : 

        http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/
        
Please get the CVS version which features some fixed bugs 
and support for bash, python, lisp, perl, php and now ruby !

access to zope variables is "semi" transparent.

bye,

Jerome Alet


From ahabib1357@yahoo.com  Fri Mar  7 17:52:39 2003
From: ahabib1357@yahoo.com (Asad Habib)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:52:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Updating Database Records
Message-ID: <20030307175239.63488.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello. Does anyone know whether a Z SQL method has the
permission to make modifications to already existing
data by using the SQL update command. I am calling a Z
SQL method that attempts to do this from a DTML method
that has a proxy role of 'manager'. However, when this
Z SQL method is called, Zope flags me with an error
saying that I am "Unauthorized". Now, when I call
another Z SQL method from this same DTML method that
inserts records into the same database, everything
works fine. Is there some restriction against
modifying database records in Zope? Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Asad

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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Fri Mar  7 17:56:38 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 18:56:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Single authentication for several servers
Message-ID: <200303071856.38386.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

  Hi,

I'd like to setup this environment :
 - I have a first site, handled by Zope, behind an Apache server and rewrite 
rules. Authentication on this server is done throught an LDAP server with 
LDAPUserFolder.
 - I have a second site on a different server, handled by Apache+PHP. 
Authentication on this server is done throught the same LDAP server, so with 
the same login/password, throught mod_ldap.

My problem is that when I switch from the first server to the second, I'd like 
to avoid a second authentication. So my idea was to access to server2 
throught "http://www.site1.com/site2", with Apache handling a new rewrite 
rule in proxy mode. Do you think that it should work (I can't test easilly 
before asking you !!)  ??

Of course :
 - I don't have any SSO solution ;
 - I can't rebuild my PHP application with Zope before several months :-((
(but I can update scripts to take the new access path into account).

Thanks for any help or advise.

  Thierry

-- 
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  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca  Fri Mar  7 18:10:13 2003
From: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca (Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:10:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Single authentication for several servers
Message-ID: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306C5@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>

I've faced a similar situation (Though not with Zope at all actually) ...

The way I prefered was to set the cookies for both domains in one pass, by
using cascading scripts on each server, so that when you log in to one, it
sets cookies for itself, and then transparently calls a script on the other
site asking IT to set cookies for itself.

This of course depends on both sites using the same cookies, which may or
may not be the case depending on exactly how you authenticate.

But it's an option,

Cheers,
J.F.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry FLORAC [mailto:thierry.florac@onf.fr]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:57 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Single authentication for several servers



  Hi,

I'd like to setup this environment :
 - I have a first site, handled by Zope, behind an Apache server and rewrite

rules. Authentication on this server is done throught an LDAP server with 
LDAPUserFolder.
 - I have a second site on a different server, handled by Apache+PHP. 
Authentication on this server is done throught the same LDAP server, so with

the same login/password, throught mod_ldap.

My problem is that when I switch from the first server to the second, I'd
like 
to avoid a second authentication. So my idea was to access to server2 
throught "http://www.site1.com/site2", with Apache handling a new rewrite 
rule in proxy mode. Do you think that it should work (I can't test easilly 
before asking you !!)  ??

Of course :
 - I don't have any SSO solution ;
 - I can't rebuild my PHP application with Zope before several months :-((
(but I can update scripts to take the new access path into account).

Thanks for any help or advise.

  Thierry

-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net

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From pollej@uleth.ca  Fri Mar  7 18:39:51 2003
From: pollej@uleth.ca (Edward Pollard)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:39:51 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Logging a User Out
Message-ID: <3E68E777.CCEA4F8F@uleth.ca>

I'm up to my elbows in ripping apart the ZMI to find the code, and its
another basic idea, so I thought I'd throw it out to the list.

How can I programatically (Python/Page Templates) clear the login
information from the browser? That is - log someone out.

Setting up the permisions with the LDAP users was straightforward, but
at the moment all I can do is detect the lack of permissions and say
"Access Unauthorized". The only way to switch users is to open a new
browser. This, of course, is immature and - if you'll excuse the
colloquialism - sucks hard. So I'd like to offer a button that says "Log
me out".

Amusingly, the Security chapter of The Zope Book does not seem to cover
this. Maybe it shouldn't and I'm just easily amused.

Thanks,

Ed



From jens@zope.com  Fri Mar  7 19:07:40 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:07:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Logging a User Out
In-Reply-To: <3E68E777.CCEA4F8F@uleth.ca>
Message-ID: <116CC1EF-50D0-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

you cannot clear out basic HTTP auth information from a browser without 
telling the browser that the user is unauthorized, which will then make 
the browser pop up a username/password box. that's simple HTTP 
authentication and has not much to do with zope itself.

use a user folder that supports cookie authentication. that's the only 
way you can achieve your goal.

jens


On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 13:39 US/Eastern, Edward Pollard wrote:

> I'm up to my elbows in ripping apart the ZMI to find the code, and its
> another basic idea, so I thought I'd throw it out to the list.
>
> How can I programatically (Python/Page Templates) clear the login
> information from the browser? That is - log someone out.
>
> Setting up the permisions with the LDAP users was straightforward, but
> at the moment all I can do is detect the lack of permissions and say
> "Access Unauthorized". The only way to switch users is to open a new
> browser. This, of course, is immature and - if you'll excuse the
> colloquialism - sucks hard. So I'd like to offer a button that says 
> "Log
> me out".
>
> Amusingly, the Security chapter of The Zope Book does not seem to cover
> this. Maybe it shouldn't and I'm just easily amused.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Fri Mar  7 19:08:46 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 11:08:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Virtual Host Newbie
In-Reply-To: <005901c2e4a5$3795dbe0$18281a97@sorpippo>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030307110347.01e04ae8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

Some guesses:

1. Try using the [L,P] flag at the end of your RewriteRule directive.  You 
might inadvertently be executing a later rule.
2. Try using an explicit URL (<a href=http://www1.antonella.it/ciao>) and 
see if that makes any difference.
3. It's something to do with how ciao is implemented.

HTH,

Dylan


At 04:29 AM 3/7/2003, Zoper wrote:
>Hi All.
>I started playing with VHM, but I have some problem.
>This is my apache configuration.
>
>         NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80
>          <VirtualHost 127.0.0.1>
>          ServerName www1.antonella.it
>          RewriteEngine on
>          RewriteRule ^/(.*)
>http://127.0.0.1:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www1.antonella.it:80/www1/Virtual
>HostRoot/$1 [P]
>         </VirtualHost>
>
>I have a folder www1 on Zope. When I send this request
>
>   http://www1.antonella.it
>
>I obtain the index_html object present in the www1 folder
>
>   <dtml-var standard_html_header>
>   <!-- index_html -->
>   <p>
>   l'home page
>   </p>
>   <p><a href="ciao">Ciao a tutti<a></p>
>   <dtml-var standard_html_footer>
>
>Ok, but when I click on ciao (it exist) I obtain nothing more then a refresh
>of index_html. Why?
>
>Best regards.
>
>Gius.
>
>
>
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From steffen@hausmann-family.de  Fri Mar  7 19:12:06 2003
From: steffen@hausmann-family.de (Steffen Hausmann)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:12:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
Message-ID: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw>

Hi,

Im trying to send an E-Mail within an external python script each time
an object is edited. Therefor I use superValues to locate the MailHost
object.

mailhost=getattr(self, self.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)

If the object that sends the mail already exists anything goes fine.

But if the object is edited for the first time (via the __init__
procedure that calls the edit procedure) superValues can't find the
MailHost object (IndexError: list index out of range).

Any ideas what's going wrong?

MfG Steffen
-- 
That you're not paranoid doesn't mean they aren't right behind you.


From jens@zope.com  Fri Mar  7 19:20:37 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:20:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw>
Message-ID: <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

during __init__ your object has no acquisition content. you cannot use 
acquisition at that point in time.

jens


On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 14:12 US/Eastern, Steffen Hausmann wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Im trying to send an E-Mail within an external python script each time
> an object is edited. Therefor I use superValues to locate the MailHost
> object.
>
> mailhost=getattr(self, self.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
>
> If the object that sends the mail already exists anything goes fine.
>
> But if the object is edited for the first time (via the __init__
> procedure that calls the edit procedure) superValues can't find the
> MailHost object (IndexError: list index out of range).
>
> Any ideas what's going wrong?
>
> MfG Steffen



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Fri Mar  7 19:28:25 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:28:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <100434677.1047068905@[192.168.0.3]>

Wrap your code into manage_afterAdd()

-aj

--On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 14:20 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> =
wrote:

> during __init__ your object has no acquisition content. you cannot use
> acquisition at that point in time.
>
> jens
>
>
> On Friday, Mar 7, 2003, at 14:12 US/Eastern, Steffen Hausmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Im trying to send an E-Mail within an external python script each time
>> an object is edited. Therefor I use superValues to locate the MailHost
>> object.
>>
>> mailhost=3Dgetattr(self, self.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
>>
>> If the object that sends the mail already exists anything goes fine.
>>
>> But if the object is edited for the first time (via the __init__
>> procedure that calls the edit procedure) superValues can't find the
>> MailHost object (IndexError: list index out of range).
>>
>> Any ideas what's going wrong?
>>
>> MfG Steffen
>
>
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From stefan@epy.co.at  Fri Mar  7 19:29:44 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:29:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw>
References: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw>
Message-ID: <149724860.1047068984@[172.16.8.4]>

superValues will only work after you have _setObject'ed your new object.=20
There is normally no acquisition context available during __init__. Your=20
factory method should look something like this:

  ob =3D MyClass('foo')
  self._setObject('foo', ob)
  self._getOb('foo').edit()

HTH,
Stefan


--On Freitag, 07. M=E4rz 2003 20:12 +0100 Steffen Hausmann=20
<steffen@hausmann-family.de> wrote:

> Im trying to send an E-Mail within an external python script each time
> an object is edited. Therefor I use superValues to locate the MailHost
> object.
>
> mailhost=3Dgetattr(self, self.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
>
> If the object that sends the mail already exists anything goes fine.
>
> But if the object is edited for the first time (via the __init__
> procedure that calls the edit procedure) superValues can't find the
> MailHost object (IndexError: list index out of range).

--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar  7 20:45:50 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 14:45:50 -0600
Subject: External Editor on the MAC ? Was: Re: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <3E68A0D9.8070208@vt.edu>
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
 <69585360563.20030306145221@Vex.Net>
 <1047017582.4949.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>  <3E68A0D9.8070208@vt.edu>
Message-ID: <1047069950.5621.19.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Probably, since they are really MAC gui oriented people.

On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 07:38, Jim Washington wrote:
> Which Mac OS?  If OS X, would they mind using X11 apps?
> 
> -- Jim Washington
> 
> Edward Muller wrote:
> > Does an External Editor helper application exist? I have a client I
> > recently did a bunch of zope work for and their HTML designers are
> > getting a little annoyed with <textarea/>. And for security reasons the
> > client wants the FTP server disabled .. as well as DAV ... Even though I
> > explained ipchains/tables to them ...
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 13:52, Tim wrote:
> > 
> >>Michael wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 1:18:44 PM:
> >>
> >>>Does anyone have any hints on how to "configure the editor"?
> >>
> >>I'm using ExternalEditor with gvim on XP Pro, as you are. I did no
> >>special configuration (that I can recall) beyond the simple:
> >>
> >>editor = h:\vim\gvim.exe
> >>
> >>in the ZopeEdit.ini
> >>
> >>Works great. I don't experience any "connection lost" problems. So
> >>this message is not much help, except to say i don't think that
> >>snippet you quoted from the ZopeEditor site applies here.
-- 
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Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
Custom Programming - Network Service & Support

Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
  Fax: 417-862-0572

http://www.interlix.com



From steffen@hausmann-family.de  Fri Mar  7 20:46:39 2003
From: steffen@hausmann-family.de (Steffen Hausmann)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:46:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <100434677.1047068905@[192.168.0.3]>
References: <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <100434677.1047068905@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <20030307204639.GA2546@aragorn.wdw>

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:28:25PM +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
> Wrap your code into manage_afterAdd()

Now it works. Thanks a lot.

> --On Freitag, 7. März 2003 14:20 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl <jens@zope.com> wrote:
> >during __init__ your object has no acquisition content. you cannot use
> >acquisition at that point in time.

MfG Steffen
-- 
That you're not paranoid doesn't mean they aren't right behind you.


From jordi_yc@lycos.es  Fri Mar  7 21:52:55 2003
From: jordi_yc@lycos.es (Jordi)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:52:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] External Editor and Connection Lost with Open Office
Message-ID: <3E6914B7.7080100@lycos.es>

Hi,

I have tried Extenal Editor 0.5 with PDF files without problems.

Open Office 1.0.2 under windows 2000 gives the "FATAL ERROR: Editor did 
not launch properly. External Editor lost connection to editor process."

Soffice.exe -o local/path/to.file

Any idea of what can be wrong?

TIA



From maxm@mxm.dk  Fri Mar  7 22:15:33 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 23:15:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Documentation/examples of i18n in zpt in 2.61
Message-ID: <3E691A05.7000705@mxm.dk>

Is there any documentation/examples on how to use zpt for i18n ??? I 
have a project right now where I need it, so this would be a good time 
to learn.

regards Max M



From ahabib1357@yahoo.com  Fri Mar  7 22:56:45 2003
From: ahabib1357@yahoo.com (Asad Habib)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:56:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Extracting query string parameters from a URL
Message-ID: <20030307225645.73811.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello. Does anyone know how to extract query string
parameters from a URL? I am trying to limit access of
a DTML page to users who have a particular user name
and id. Users who try to access this page have to
enter something of the sort:

http://localhost:8080/somepage.html?user_name=someuser+userid=djje

Is there someway to access the values associated with
username and userid in the URL above? Any help would
be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Asad

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From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Fri Mar  7 23:28:07 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:28:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEOHCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Edward Muller wrote:
>
> With all this discussion on :record flags and :list flags can someone
> point me to a good reference on the different :flags and how to use
> them. Or just explain it! :-)
>

See the Zope book (2.5) chp. 10, section "Passing Parameters to Scripts".

It's an easy and quick reading, worthy of your time :-)

:flags are used to convert parameters coming from HTML forms, from strings
to a python data type. Quite usefull is the possibility to put together
several form fields in a list or in an object (record).

HTH,
Fernando



From bergen@globalexchange.org  Fri Mar  7 19:54:25 2003
From: bergen@globalexchange.org (Bergen Moore)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:54:25 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Easy One
Message-ID: <99484246-50D6-11D7-B255-0050E4103C7D@globalexchange.org>

--Apple-Mail-3-40188855
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=US-ASCII;
	format=flowed

I just built a python script called url_quote (in my 'code' folder) and 
called it like so from dtml:
<dtml-var "webClient('http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query=' + 
code.url_quote(querystring))">

The script: (with Parameter List having the parameter 'astring')
# Import a standard function
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import url_quote_plus

# Return a string suitable for URL's.
return "%s" % url_quote_plus(astring)


Ok .. this should be really easy but it's driving me nuts. How to I set
an attribute on a variable when it's being rendered inside of a
function? Here's what I mean:

<dtml-var "webClient('http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query=' +
querystring)">

I need to have the variable querystring render with url_quote_plus, but
for the life of me I can't figure out how to set it.

TIA

Rick

--Apple-Mail-3-40188855
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/enriched;
	charset=US-ASCII

I just built a python script called url_quote (in my 'code' folder)
and called it like so from dtml:

<<dtml-var
"webClient('<underline><color><param>1A1A,1A1A,FFFF</param>http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query</color></underline>='
+ code.url_quote(querystring))">


The script: (with Parameter List having the parameter 'astring')

# Import a standard function

from Products.PythonScripts.standard import url_quote_plus


# Return a string suitable for URL's.

return "%s" % url_quote_plus(astring)



Ok .. this should be really easy but it's driving me nuts. How to I set

an attribute on a variable when it's being rendered inside of a

function? Here's what I mean:


<<dtml-var
"webClient('<underline><color><param>1A1A,1A1A,FFFF</param>http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query</color></underline>=' +

querystring)">


I need to have the variable querystring render with url_quote_plus, but

for the life of me I can't figure out how to set it.


TIA


Rick


--Apple-Mail-3-40188855--



From jonathansamuel@yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 00:10:48 2003
From: jonathansamuel@yahoo.com (Jonathan Mark)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:10:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Is It Possible to Set a Folder's Properties Using DTML?
Message-ID: <20030308001048.23005.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>

I would like to be able to modify the value of a
folder's property any time I access a dtml-method over
the web.

However, I do not see any dtml tag which will set a
folder's property. <dtml-let> inserts a new variable
into the namespace but does not set a property. 

Is there any way to do so?

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From davids@sdsc.edu  Sat Mar  8 00:12:55 2003
From: davids@sdsc.edu (David Stockwell)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:12:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2639 - 10 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20030307170008.30311.26212.Mailman@mail.python.org>
References: <20030307170008.30311.26212.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <3E693587.5070005@sdsc.edu>

unsubscribe flonon26 davids@sdsc.edu



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  8 00:28:51 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:28:51 -0600
Subject: [Zope] problems with msie 6
In-Reply-To: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag>
References: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag>
Message-ID: <3E693943.30302@jcameroncooper.com>

> I'm quite new to zope and I have a little problem with msie 6:
>
> I created a formulator form. When it is submitted a python script is 
> called that validates the entries and then calls a zsql method that 
> inserts them in a mysql table. With Mozilla, msie 5.X all works fine, 
> but using msie 6 the entries are inserted two or three times. No error 
> messages appear in the  error_log so I have no idea where to look.
>
> (Zope version is 2.6.0, formulator version is 1.2.0)
>
> Any hints?

Error messages would be unlikely in this case, since it seems that IE6 
is being overzealous (ie stupid) about its POSTing.

Look at the server logs (var/z2.log) and see if there are multiple 
requests where there should only be one. If so, it may be entirely the 
client's fault.

Make a Python script that counts how many times it's called (increment a 
property on the container.) Hit that from the form you're having 
problems with, and from one you made yourself. Is the result the same, 
or how is it different?

You can insert the timestamp along with your data in the ZSQL method, too.

By trying out this sort of thing, you can get closer to what's actually 
going wrong, and where. From what you said above, it's hard to say.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  8 00:49:23 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:49:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & ZCTextIndex Help?
In-Reply-To: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E693E13.2030903@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>What is the most stable combination of Zope 2.6/Python/Apache?  I had to
>use Apache 1.3.22 at the time because .23 and .24 had cookie handling
>problems.
>  
>
Zope 2.6 is said to require Python 2.1.3 (though it is possible to use 
2.2). Can't say about Apache: check if your cookie thing has cleared up 
in the newer versions.

       --jcc




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  8 00:53:34 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:53:34 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Updating Database Records
In-Reply-To: <20030307175239.63488.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030307175239.63488.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E693F0E.5040408@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Hello. Does anyone know whether a Z SQL method has the
>permission to make modifications to already existing
>data by using the SQL update command. I am calling a Z
>SQL method that attempts to do this from a DTML method
>that has a proxy role of 'manager'. However, when this
>Z SQL method is called, Zope flags me with an error
>saying that I am "Unauthorized". Now, when I call
>another Z SQL method from this same DTML method that
>inserts records into the same database, everything
>works fine. Is there some restriction against
>modifying database records in Zope? Any help would be
>greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>  
>
Zope doesn't really care about the contents of the SQL statement. The 
concepts of "insert" and "update" (and even "select") are entirely out 
of Zope's world. It is probably about permissions with the database user 
you have the ZSQL method logging in as. Can you do the same thing on the 
database console as the same user?

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  8 01:17:08 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:17:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Extracting query string parameters from a URL
In-Reply-To: <20030307225645.73811.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030307225645.73811.qmail@web14812.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E694494.2080607@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Hello. Does anyone know how to extract query string
>parameters from a URL? I am trying to limit access of
>a DTML page to users who have a particular user name
>and id. Users who try to access this page have to
>enter something of the sort:
>
>http://localhost:8080/somepage.html?user_name=someuser+userid=djje
>
>Is there someway to access the values associated with
>username and userid in the URL above? Any help would
>be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
These are automatically parsed by Zope and are available in the REQUEST 
object. This is in the namespace of DTML by default, and available in 
Python scripts and ZPT as well. The following will all print the value 
of user_name from your example:

DTML: <dtml-var user_name>
script: print container.REQUEST.user_name
ZPT: <span tal:content="request/a"

However, I think you would be better off using Zope's security machinery 
instead. And I also think it would be time well spent for you to read 
the Zope Book, to get this sort of basic stuff out of the way.

       --jcc




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  8 01:25:59 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:25:59 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Test for 'View' permission
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c2e4c1$2e7dc290$2f01a8c0@dchirila>
References: <00ba01c2e4c1$2e7dc290$2f01a8c0@dchirila>
Message-ID: <3E6946A7.6020805@jcameroncooper.com>

>
> I have a Python script witch takes a list of Zope objects and returns 
> only the objects with 'View' permission for Anonymous users.
> The script is called by a Zope Manager.
> How do I do that ??

Do you mean you want to do that? 'Cause it sounds like you already have. 
It should look something like this, in any case:

I think you'll have to drop into an External Method to say

(with parameters: someList)

from AccessControl.User import nobody
user = nobody
retList = []
for obj in someList:
  if user.hasRole(obj,'View'):
    retList.append(obj)
return retList

Then restrict this External method to only Managers via the ZMI.

There are ways to allow a TTW script to import like this, if you really 
want to.

       --jcc



From jc@cowgar.com  Sat Mar  8 02:28:35 2003
From: jc@cowgar.com (Jeremy Cowgar)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:28:35 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB/RDBMS newbie question
In-Reply-To: <3E6946A7.6020805@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <00ba01c2e4c1$2e7dc290$2f01a8c0@dchirila> <3E6946A7.6020805@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <200303072128.35883.jc@cowgar.com>

Greetings.

I am curious when I should use ZODB or an RDBMS. For instance, I am writting a 
little web app to maintain the Sunday school department at my church. I am 
porting it from a Tcl/Tk app for practice into Zope.

I track Households, People and Classes. Households has many people, and a 
Class links to the person table twice, once for the teacher, and another time 
for the substitute.

I am curious if I should be researching using ZODB for this or use an RDBMS?

Thanks,

Jeremy Cowgar



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Sat Mar  8 02:30:19 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 18:30:19 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VHM and SSL problems
Message-ID: <3E6955BB.1080601@neurobs.com>

I have a ZServer behind Apache 2.0 setup running for quite some time 
now. Today morning the Secure portion just stopped working. The rewrite 
entry in my ssl.conf file is:

http://191.168.10.172:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/nbs.neuro-bs.com:443/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/

which for all purposes is valid.

Any ideas??

TIA
AM

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sat Mar  8 03:58:27 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 19:58:27 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VHM and SSL problems
In-Reply-To: <3E6955BB.1080601@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030307192702.01dec888@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

Assuming nothing has changed in your config files, my first few guesses 
would be:

1. Your admin (or you) reloaded httpd using "apachectl graceful" instead of 
"apachectl startssl"
2. You might have somehow blocked port 443 on your server.
3. Your server key is encrypted and this is the first time you've done a 
full server restart since that was set up.

Of course there's any number of ways a change to the config files might 
crap out ssl.  You have those under version control, right? :-)

It could also be something far more subtle.

Do you have any error messages, tracebacks, or entries in your error_log 
that might be helpful?

What happens if you telnet to your server's port 443?  Does Apache respond?

Dylan



At 06:30 PM 3/7/2003, AM wrote:
>I have a ZServer behind Apache 2.0 setup running for quite some time now. 
>Today morning the Secure portion just stopped working. The rewrite entry 
>in my ssl.conf file is:
>
>http://191.168.10.172:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/nbs.neuro-bs.com:443/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/
>
>which for all purposes is valid.
>
>Any ideas??
>
>TIA
>AM
>
>--
>==================================================================
>Aseem Mohanty
>Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 (R) 510 
>7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231
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>  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes
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From jc@cowgar.com  Sat Mar  8 05:15:43 2003
From: jc@cowgar.com (Jeremy Cowgar)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:15:43 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Simple: Update a ZClass property via Python Script
In-Reply-To: <3E693587.5070005@sdsc.edu>
References: <20030307170008.30311.26212.Mailman@mail.python.org> <3E693587.5070005@sdsc.edu>
Message-ID: <200303080015.43985.jc@cowgar.com>

I have just finished the ZooExhibit product tutorial. It checks the property 
of a ZClass, last_meal_time to see if the animal is hungry. If so, I want to 
feed it (practice). So, I created a python script with a link to it inside 
the <dtml-if isHungry> area, and in it I have:

manage_changeProperties(last_meal_time, '2002-01-01')

It runs just fine, but my property is not updated. How can I update this 
property?

Thanks!

Jeremy Cowgar



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar  8 06:00:49 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 00:00:49 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZODB/RDBMS newbie question
References: <00ba01c2e4c1$2e7dc290$2f01a8c0@dchirila> <3E6946A7.6020805@jcameroncooper.com> <200303072128.35883.jc@cowgar.com>
Message-ID: <3E698711.9060002@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I am curious when I should use ZODB or an RDBMS. For instance, I am writting a 
>little web app to maintain the Sunday school department at my church. I am 
>porting it from a Tcl/Tk app for practice into Zope.
>
>I track Households, People and Classes. Households has many people, and a 
>Class links to the person table twice, once for the teacher, and another time 
>for the substitute.
>
>I am curious if I should be researching using ZODB for this or use an RDBMS?
>
Well... if you ask me (and after a fashion you did) if you're going to 
bother using Zope, you might as well use it as it was meant. And that 
means persistent objects, and that means ZODB.

The only really good reason to use an RDBMS in Zope is to interface with 
existing systems. If they're there and it's either required you use 
them, or it'll save a heap of time, that's why Zope has SQL capabilities.

There are some valid but less convincing reasons to use a RDBMS with 
Zope: the database system has some exotic feature that you can't get 
with the ZODB, your application is very well suited to a table-storage 
architecture, or the developers are trained in relational thinking, and 
not clued in to Zope and/or objects. The first is getting less true all 
the time, the second is reasonable but hardly common (in my estimation), 
and the third, well, it kind of speaks for itself.

There used to be some other reasons to abjure from the ZODB: rapidly 
changing objects conflict with the undo capability, and capacity and 
stability concerns. The former is easily solved by non-undoable storages 
(although I think a per-object/product switch for this would be great) 
or scheduled packing; and the latter isn't much justified today even 
with FileStorage and especially with fun stuff like Directory Storage.

Negatives aside, the ZODB is a good and proven relational database. If 
you use it, your application will make a lot more sense with regards to 
Zope's capabilities, and it'll free you from having to deal with another 
separate system.

Of course, all that is high-level stuff. Now to you:

It seems you already think in tables. If you're trying to get something 
specific done quick, play to your strengths. Pretend it's Cold Fusion 
with a nifty interface. But if this is an exercise in learning Zope, I 
think it's important that you stay well away from relational databases: 
I think you'll get a lot more milage out of Zope if you use it in its 
"native mode".

As to the particular application, it can be done either way, but I think 
if you decide to make it a heap of persistent objects rather than a heap 
of table records, you're going to have to do a little rethinking about 
how to actually go about it.

        --jcc
    (with a grain of salt)



From jc@cowgar.com  Sat Mar  8 06:11:24 2003
From: jc@cowgar.com (Jeremy Cowgar)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 01:11:24 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB/RDBMS newbie question
In-Reply-To: <3E698711.9060002@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <00ba01c2e4c1$2e7dc290$2f01a8c0@dchirila> <200303072128.35883.jc@cowgar.com> <3E698711.9060002@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <200303080111.24791.jc@cowgar.com>

> >I am curious if I should be researching using ZODB for this or use an
> > RDBMS?
>
> Well... if you ask me (and after a fashion you did) if you're going to
> bother using Zope, you might as well use it as it was meant. And that
> means persistent objects, and that means ZODB.

I have created a Product, and that product has three ZClasses, CS_Person, 
CS_Class and CS_Household. Each has attributes that I want to track.

I played with the ZooExhibit tutorial and got that functional and updating 
class information. I have also done other tutorials in the ZopeBook dealing 
with page templates, DTML, etc...

I am still confused on one thing with the ZODB. How can do I relate a 
CS_Person to a CS_Class? I assumed that I would do it by the id. Please 
correct me if I am wrong, or if their is a better way of doing it.

In CS_Class I have two attributes, 1 is teacher, string and the other is 
substitute, string. I am assuming I will place the id's of a CS_Person into 
those attributes.

Is that correct or am I totally off in left field?

Thanks,

Jeremy


From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sat Mar  8 06:40:24 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 07:40:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & ZCTextIndex Help?
In-Reply-To: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <140754033.1047109224@[192.168.0.3]>


--On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 09:42 -0700 Michael Lewis=20
<michael@nichestaffing.com> wrote:

> I am currently running Zope 2.44, Python 2.13, and Apache 1.3.22 on a
> RedHat 8 server which is pretty stable.  I need to upgrade to at least
> 2.6 to take advantage of ZCTextIndex, as I want to have the ability to
> do exact phrase searches.  Also, any pointers as to how to reindex after
> installing would be appreciated.

where is the problem? replace TextIndexes with a ZCTextIndex and reindex
the catalog. that's it.

-aj


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sat Mar  8 06:44:18 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:44:18 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0FA@AUHEXCH>

And, in case someone is interested, for WIN NT systems, I use the following
batch file to archive datasets and start up the Zope service (filenames will
differ, as well as paths, obviously) -


=======================================================
@echo off

set PLONE=C:\Applications\Programming\Plone
set SSL=%PLONE%\openssl
set PYTHON=%PLONE%\Python
set ZOPE=%PLONE%\Zope
set PYTHONHOME=%PYTHON%

set PATH=%PYTHON%;%SSL%;%ZOPE%;%PATH%
set INSTANCE_HOME=%PLONE%\Data

set HTTP_MANAGE=8080

REM ----------------------
REM Debug mode
REM ----------------------
set Z_DEBUG_MODE=1
set ZOPE_SECURITY_POLICY=PYTHON

REM ----------------------
REM get todays date and time into an environment variable
REM ----------------------
set TIMENOW=%TIME: =0%
set TIMENOW=%TIMENOW::=.%
set TIMENOW=%TIMENOW:.=%

set TODAY=%DATE%
set TODAY=%TODAY:~6,4%%TODAY:~3,2%%TODAY:~0,2%

set TIMENOW=%TODAY%%TIMENOW%

REM ----------------------
REM Move the log file
REM ----------------------
move /y %INSTANCE_HOME%\Var\z2s.log %INSTANCE_HOME%\Var\%TIMENOW%-z2s.log
set EC=%ERRORLEVEL%
if %EC% GTR 0 GOTO EXIT

REM ----------------------
REM copy the object DB
REM ----------------------
copy %INSTANCE_HOME%\Var\Data.fs %INSTANCE_HOME%\Var\%TIMENOW%-Data.fs
set EC=%ERRORLEVEL%
if %EC% GTR 0 GOTO EXIT

REM ----------------------
REM copy the object DB index
REM ----------------------
copy %INSTANCE_HOME%\Var\Data.fs.index
%INSTANCE_HOME%\Var\%TIMENOW%-Data.fs.index
set EC=%ERRORLEVEL%
if %EC% GTR 0 GOTO EXIT

:START
echo Starting Service .....................
%PYTHON%\python.exe %ZOPE%\z2s.py -X -y 80 -y 8080 -y 443 -Y 8443 -f 8421
INSTANCE_HOME=%PLONE%\Data HTTP_MANAGE=%HTTP_MANAGE% -D %1 %2 %3 %4 %5

:EXIT

=======================================================

Since WinNT will lock Data.fs after ZServer has been started, copying/moving
of files has to be done before the service is started. 

Obviously, I start ZServer from a batch script, and don't use the service.

The procedure makes a backup of the data and the log each time the service
is started. You may end up with a lot of LARGE backup files. I usually use
the 200* wildcard on files to automate the archiving/deleting of these
files, but in a separate script.

Samir.




-----Original Message-----
From: Toby Dickenson [mailto:tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 21:19
To: Chris Muldrow; Paul Winkler; Sorin Marti
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Where does Zope store files...


On Wednesday 05 March 2003 4:56 pm, Chris Muldrow wrote:
> Here's a backup procedure on Zope.org:
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/jrush/howto_rsync_zope

That process is very dangerous. Your backup can be trashed if something goes

wrong mid-rsync, or soon after the rsync. Also, rsync sometimes aborts if
the 
file is changed while it is processing it, with insufficient guarantees
about 
the state of the file it leaves behind.

I recommend:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2002-October/003418.html

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson

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From michael@nichestaffing.com  Sat Mar  8 06:53:41 2003
From: michael@nichestaffing.com (Michael Lewis)
Date: 07 Mar 2003 23:53:41 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & ZCTextIndex Help?
In-Reply-To: <140754033.1047109224@[192.168.0.3]>
References: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <140754033.1047109224@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <1047106421.2313.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I had made a couple of text indexes by mistake, replaced the text
indexes with field indexes and reindexed and it didn't work.  Just a
little paranoid I guess.

On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 23:40, Andreas Jung wrote:
> --On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 09:42 -0700 Michael Lewis=20
> <michael@nichestaffing.com> wrote:
>=20
> > I am currently running Zope 2.44, Python 2.13, and Apache 1.3.22 on a
> > RedHat 8 server which is pretty stable.  I need to upgrade to at leas=
t
> > 2.6 to take advantage of ZCTextIndex, as I want to have the ability t=
o
> > do exact phrase searches.  Also, any pointers as to how to reindex af=
ter
> > installing would be appreciated.
>=20
> where is the problem? replace TextIndexes with a ZCTextIndex and reinde=
x
> the catalog. that's it.
>=20
> -aj
--=20
Michael Lewis <michael@nichestaffing.com>
NicheStaffing.com



From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Sat Mar  8 07:02:29 2003
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 02:02:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>

Without starting any arguments, I would like to find out what sort of
distributions are popular for deploying zope servers. I would like to use a
common distribution like Redhat, but getting binary packages for common DA's
is painfully obtuse. I have  used the windows packages with the binary ODBC
DA an the install went great, the downside is, well, windows. I won't deploy
a production server with compilers on it. Some thing like Gentoo with it's
build-from-source design and  ability to do package management would be
great, But zope isn't  well supported- I would still have to assemble
packages myself or build various binary parts by hand. 

What is the most common deployment in zope production systems?



From alienoid@is.lg.ua  Sat Mar  8 07:11:28 2003
From: alienoid@is.lg.ua (Ruslan Spivak)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:11:28 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zope2.6.1 and python2.2.2
Message-ID: <3E6997A0.7090908@is.lg.ua>

Hello, zope users!

Does anybody have any objections to running Zope2.6.1 with python 2.2.2
instead of python2.1.3?
Can this cause troubles?

I need to use pyuno, but it's latest release works and builds with 
python2.2.2,
so i want to know if it's OK to use zope 2.6.1with python2.2.2 and there 
are no
side effects of using them.

Your help is very appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Ruslan




From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sat Mar  8 07:12:24 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 08:12:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & ZCTextIndex Help?
In-Reply-To: <1047106421.2313.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <140754033.1047109224@[192.168.0.3]>
 <1047106421.2313.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <142673533.1047111144@[192.168.0.3]>


--On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 23:53 -0700 Michael Lewis=20
<michael@nichestaffing.com> wrote:

> I had made a couple of text indexes by mistake, replaced the text
> indexes with field indexes and reindexed and it didn't work.  Just a
> little paranoid I guess.

Replaced text index with field indexes??? Since they work completely
different I don't really understand why you are doing this.

-aj



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sat Mar  8 07:14:31 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 08:14:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope2.6.1 and python2.2.2
In-Reply-To: <3E6997A0.7090908@is.lg.ua>
References: <3E6997A0.7090908@is.lg.ua>
Message-ID: <142800265.1047111271@[192.168.0.3]>


--On Samstag, 8. M=E4rz 2003 09:11 +0200 Ruslan Spivak <alienoid@is.lg.ua>=20
wrote:

> Hello, zope users!
>
> Does anybody have any objections to running Zope2.6.1 with python 2.2.2
> instead of python2.1.3?
> Can this cause troubles?
>
> I need to use pyuno, but it's latest release works and builds with
> python2.2.2, so i want to know if it's OK to use zope 2.6.1with
> python2.2.2 and there are no side effects of using them.
>

This is an FAQ. Python 2.1.3 is the recommended and supported platform.
Python 2.2.2 works but I ran into some problems during the last days
using ExtensionClasses.

-aj


From michael@nichestaffing.com  Sat Mar  8 07:26:37 2003
From: michael@nichestaffing.com (Michael Lewis)
Date: 08 Mar 2003 00:26:37 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 & ZCTextIndex Help?
In-Reply-To: <142673533.1047111144@[192.168.0.3]>
References: <1047055328.2320.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <140754033.1047109224@[192.168.0.3]>
 <1047106421.2313.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <142673533.1047111144@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <1047108396.2312.47.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I wanted field indexes, but made text indexes by mistake.  This was over
a year ago when I was a raw newbie.  I only knew HTML and a little
Javascript and nothing about DTML, Python or database apps.  Now I'm a
dangerous newbie;-)  But still just a little paranoid.

On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 00:12, Andreas Jung wrote:
> --On Freitag, 7. M=E4rz 2003 23:53 -0700 Michael Lewis=20
> <michael@nichestaffing.com> wrote:
>=20
> > I had made a couple of text indexes by mistake, replaced the text
> > indexes with field indexes and reindexed and it didn't work.  Just a
> > little paranoid I guess.
>=20
> Replaced text index with field indexes??? Since they work completely
> different I don't really understand why you are doing this.
>=20
> -aj
>=20
>=20
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From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sat Mar  8 08:08:30 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:08:30 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C0FC@AUHEXCH>

Can I use html2pdf in Win XP? I used the directions in the 'how-to' but get
an error when I try and generate the PDF. Something along the lines of
"Internet Explorer cannot open the site html2pdf" :(. 

I've tried it a number of different ways, including having the full path to
ghtmldoc in the Python External Method.

TIA.

Samir.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mehmet Yousouf [mailto:mehmety@auslin.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 09:26
Cc: zope
Subject: Re: [Zope] Html2pdf problems


I've found a "solution" to the problem - I created another table in 
mysql and passed the variable to it using dtml-call, then used it as a 
filter in my select statement, it works, but if anyone has a more 
elegant way, I am only too happy to learn.

Regards, Mehmet
Mehmet Yousouf wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I'm trying to generate a page to print and felt the best way is to convert
it to pdf
>format.
>The information is on a database (mysql) and when I use <dtml-in printinfo>
in the
>page, it renders the dtml page ok and by putting /html2pdf at the end of
the url, it
>creates the pdf file.
>However, if the dtml-in command is passed a variable (<dtml-in
>"printinfo(nameid="SESSION['nameid']">), the dtml form renders fine but the
pdf file
>will not be generated by it.
>
>I have tried sorting after the dtml-in command but the same story, even
doing a
><dtml-var "SESSION[nameid']"> while zope renders it, will not get converted
to
>pdf..... if I save the file and use hmtldoc -f nameid.pdf nameid.html
--webpage, it
>works.
>
>Any suggestions how I can resolve this problem?
>
>
>  
>



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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Mar  8 08:10:58 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:10:58 -0800
Subject: [Zope] [again] Compile problem
In-Reply-To: <3E6335CB.3030600@semafor.ch>
References: <oprlj96vziuiqpjm@localhost> <4254450750.1046878746@[172.16.8.4]>
Message-ID: <20030308081058.GW17822@audible.transient.net>

perhaps http://collector.zope.org/Zope/551 explains your problem?

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing
 next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution."
						-Sathington Willoughby


From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sat Mar  8 08:24:37 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 09:24:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [Zope-Annce] [ANN] CMFCollectorNG 0.20 FINAL released
Message-ID: <147006213.1047115477@[192.168.0.3]>

I am pleased to announce the release of

   CMFCollectorNG 0.20 final

CMFCollectorNG is a Zope/CMF-based bugtracking system (based on
CMFCollector).

Major features of CMFCollectorNG:

    * major code cleanup and complete new skins
    * very generic to add new ticket properties to a tracker
    * enhanced tracker configuration through the web
    * extend usage of the CMF memberdata tool to store user informations 
and user preferences
    * rewritten transcript to keep issue related informations in an 
abstract format
      to produce different output (HTML, plain text for email notifications)
    * tickets can have references to other tickets (also across 
CMFCollectorNG instances)
    * dedicated views for uploaded files and references to other tickets
    * better roles management:
          o TrackerAdmins manage the tracker
          o Supporters can file tickets, create followups, upload files,
            add references to other tickets
          o Reporters can file new tickets and upload files and references
    * XML export (to be used with XMLRPC)
    * watchlist/monitoring functionality
    * Plone compatibility
    * support for submitting tickets through email
    * fully localized

Changes since 0.20beta3:

    * more i18n fixes
    * several improvements to the EmailSubmissions support


Migration:

 Existing installations of CMFCollectorNG must be migrated:

 * http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/CMFCollectorNG/Wiki/MigRation


Project page:

 * http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/CMFCollectorNG/Wiki/FrontPage

Downloads:

 * http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=68417

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From jwb@imeme.net  Sat Mar  8 08:39:38 2003
From: jwb@imeme.net (Jake Berglund)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 01:39:38 -0700
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
References: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <3E69AC4A.3010107@imeme.net>

Howdy,

jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:

>Without starting any arguments, I would like to find out what sort of
>distributions are popular for deploying zope servers. 
>
I use FreeBSD. I have used Debian GNU/Linux and Redhat.
All of these support Zope and all have ports/packages/rpms of Zope and 
many of the Products for Zope.

HTH,
Jake

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From kevin@movieextras.ie  Sat Mar  8 13:34:02 2003
From: kevin@movieextras.ie (Kevin Gill)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:34:02 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Basic Authentication Realm
Message-ID: <200303081334.02010.kevin@movieextras.ie>

Browser Friendly Message via Basic Authentication (Zope/exUserFolder)

I want to set a realm for a part of a site. Basically, I have two directories, 
one for category A users and one for category B users.

I want the accesses to each to be identified as a different realm, so that 
Basic authentication can be used to login to both areas with different 
credentials, and also so that the message displayed in the browser is 
meaningful.

I have found that I can set the realm for a Zope instances via Z_REALM or 
__bobo_realm__. However, I do not seem to be able to set it for a directory 
or hierarchy.

It appears that I can set the variable response.realm, if I have some python 
which is called. I am using exUserFolder, so my code is never called if the 
security check fails, which prevents me from setting the variable.

My web-site is hosted (by amaze.nl), so I would rather not have to change 
exUserFolder sources.

I would appreciate any solutions or advice from anyone on the list.

Kevin Gill
MovieExtras.ie






From andreas@andreas-jung.com  Sat Mar  8 13:49:06 2003
From: andreas@andreas-jung.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 14:49:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [ANN] TextIndexNG 1.09 released
Message-ID: <166475959.1047134946@[192.168.0.3]>

I am pleased to announce the release of

                          TextIndexNG 1.09


TextIndexNG is a new pluggable index for the ZCatalog and is the most
feature complete solution for fulltext inexing  under Zope. TextIndexNG
enhances the fulltext indexing capabilities of Zope by providing the
following features:

    * support for document converters (HTML, PDF, WinWord, PowerPoint,
      Postscript). Custom converters can be easily added

    * stemmer support for 12 languages

    * optional support for right truncation

    * similarity search (soundex, metaphone support) (for English)

    * NEAR search

    * phrase search

    * pluggable query parsers (two parsers included)

    * stop words support

    * new test tab for interactive testing

    * faster than Zopes old TextIndex

    * full unicode support (new)

    * normalization support (new)

    * new similarity algorithm: double metaphone (new)

    * new TXNGSplitter

    * new vocabulary browser

Changes since 1.08:

    * apply_index() now uses the default encoding choosen for a TextIndexNG
      instead of iso-8859-15 (thanks to Myrosav Opyr)

    * lexicons and storages now used IITreeSets? instead of IISet?. This
      should reduce memory consumption of TextIndexNG instances. Existing
      instances running TextIndexNG should be reindexed.

    * getEntryForObject() now returns a sequence of all index worde instead
      of "XXX distinct words" (standard behaviour of all Zope indexes).

    * words removed from a reindexed documents were not properly removed
      for the word-doc storage (means you could search for removed words 
and got
      hits although the words was no longer inside the document). Thanks to
      Yuppie, Tres Seavers and Dieter Maurer for pointing out this problem.

      It is highly recommended to reindex directly after the upgrading

Download: http://sourceforge.net/projects/textindexng

-- 
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
   -    Andreas Jung                     http://www.andreas-jung.com   -
  -   EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com                              -
   -            "Life is too short to (re)write parsers"               -
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------





From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:20:42 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:20:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] standard_error_message frustrations
In-Reply-To: <E18r7XX-0000RJ-00@ns.purdue.org>
References: <E18r7XX-0000RJ-00@ns.purdue.org>
Message-ID: <15977.60970.684372.700421@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Cameron Laird wrote at 2003-3-6 21:24 -0500:
 > Let me get this straight:  to work as desired, a standard_error_message
 > must be a DTML Method, correct, but not a Python Script?

No, we use a Python Script as "standard_error_message".

It must allow for the passed in arguments, however...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:12:20 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:12:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
In-Reply-To: <3E678812.6080006@lightlink.com>
References: <3E678812.6080006@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <15977.60468.311712.51403@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Wade Leftwich wrote at 2003-3-6 12:40 -0500:
 > ...
 > Your Access mdb file is on your Linux box? I don't think you can open it there.
 > You'll need to put it on a Windows box, then talk to it via ODBC over
 > the network.

I think I read about reading "mdb" files in "comp.lang.python.*".
Please, search via Google.

I may be wrong, though, and read about them elsewhere (I am not
interested in Access at all).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:18:57 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:18:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Easy one ...
In-Reply-To: <1046996220.11982.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
References: <1046996220.11982.2.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <15977.60865.887048.709074@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

D. Rick Anderson wrote at 2003-3-6 16:17 -0800:
 > ...
 > 
 > I need to have the variable querystring render with url_quote_plus, but
 > for the life of me I can't figure out how to set it.

Make a Python Script:

     Parameters:	s
     Body:

	from Products.PythonScripts.standard import url_quote_plus
	return url_quote_plus(s)

Call your Python Script with whatever string you want to be
quoted.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:39:00 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:39:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Verbose Security
In-Reply-To: <697F2F77.11478995.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <697F2F77.11478995.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <15977.62068.291791.731908@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

baiewola@netscape.net wrote at 2003-3-7 11:30 -0500:
 > Where does Verbose Security show information about failed access under Zope 2.5.x? 
 > 
 > The readme says "All of this information appears in the exception message when access is denied." However, I haven't been able to find anything in the traceback except the usual information. 

In the exception message displayed in your browser.

 > Do I have to be running in debug mode?

Maybe.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:21:28 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:21:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Edward Muller wrote at 2003-3-6 23:05 -0600:
 > With all this discussion on :record flags and :list flags can someone
 > point me to a good reference on the different :flags and how to use
 > them. Or just explain it! :-)

There is a HowTo on Zope.org.

You find a different presentation in

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:16:28 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:16:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Latest stable version / combination
In-Reply-To: <1046984173.2322.393.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1046984173.2322.393.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <15977.60716.330314.671521@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Michael Lewis wrote at 2003-3-6 13:56 -0700:
 > I'm using Zope 2.44, Python 2.13 and Apache 1.3.22 as recommended by
 > Dieter, and everything is working fine.  I would like to upgrade Zope to
 > be able to use ZCTextIndex to enable exact phrase searching and was
 > wondering what versions of each to get.  

Zope 2.6.1, Python 2.1.3 (if you are courageous, Python 2.2.2),
Apache at or above 1.3.25  (no problems reported since 1.3.24).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 12:14:12 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:14:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFCENHCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <15975.41784.601433.327070@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFCENHCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <15977.56980.227584.379339@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-7 00:04 +0100:
 > ObjFields = Products.PythonScripts.standard.Object()
 > ObjFields = Fields
 > ObjFields.a_field = 10
 > 
 > and I got the same error:
 > 
 > > Error Type: TypeError
 > > Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)

Sure, as you still work with the same object...

  After "ObjFields = Fields", "ObjFields contains "Fields" and
  no longer the newly created "Object()".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:22:39 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:22:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problems with msie 6
In-Reply-To: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag>
References: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag>
Message-ID: <15977.61087.494955.34968@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thorsten Harms wrote at 2003-3-7 13:01 +0100:
 > I created a formulator form. When it is submitted a python script is 
 > called that validates the entries and then calls a zsql method that 
 > inserts them in a mysql table. With Mozilla, msie 5.X all works fine, 
 > but using msie 6 the entries are inserted two or three times. No error 
 > messages appear in the  error_log so I have no idea where to look.
 > 
 > (Zope version is 2.6.0, formulator version is 1.2.0)
 > 
 > Any hints?

Seems, IE6 would submit the form several times????

Use a TCPLogger (e.g. Shane's "tcpwatch") to learn about
the conversation between browser and your Zope.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:14:59 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:14:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] BalkTalk unable to generate PDF
In-Reply-To: <3E67B0A6.6000200@hawaii.edu>
References: <3E67B0A6.6000200@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <15977.60627.658798.383036@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bin Zhang wrote at 2003-3-6 10:33 -1000:
 > I installed Zope 2.61, PIL 1.1.3 and reportlab on a RedHat Linux 
 > server.  I was able to generate a PDF if the BackTalk book doesn't have 
 > any images in it.  Otherwise Zope will give me this in error log:
 > 
 > Traceback (innermost last):
 > ...
 >   Module Products.BackTalk.PDFClass, line 431, in image
 >   Module Products.BackTalk.Retrievers, line 44, in __call__
 > AttributeError: height
 > ....
 > Can someone tell me what could be the cause?

Maybe a bug in "BackTalk"; maybe a missing property on your image.

   Look around line 44 of "BackTalk.Retrievers" and find out
   on what object the "height" attribute is looked for.
   Check, why it is not there.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar  8 13:10:50 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:10:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-CMF] Multiple sites using one CMF Site....
In-Reply-To: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGMEMJCAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>
References: <BFENIDCDIDDKPBDEDBLGMEMJCAAA.rmpconsult2@mydestiny.net>
Message-ID: <15977.60378.216004.510810@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

John Paul wrote at 2003-3-7 15:28 +0800:
 > Hi Is it possible to serve different website using one CMF Site and
 > separating each site with a folder? And is it advisable to put CMF Core Tool
 > in each folder?  Thanks.....

Not sure, that I understand your request.

  It seems to be similar to "sub-sites" or subportals, i.e. several portals
  below a given CMF site.

Please search the mailing list archive for "subsite" or "subportal",
to read about ideas how to implement this.


If this is not your problem, please come back with a clearer
description.


Dieter


From steffen@hausmann-family.de  Sat Mar  8 16:00:36 2003
From: steffen@hausmann-family.de (Steffen Hausmann)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:00:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw> <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <20030308160036.GA1290@aragorn.wdw>

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:20:37PM -0500, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> during __init__ your object has no acquisition content. you cannot use 
> acquisition at that point in time.

How can I check (without raising an error) whether an object has an
acquisition context or not.

MfG Steffen
-- 
That you're not paranoid doesn't mean they aren't right behind you.


From s1465@lstud.ii.uib.no  Sat Mar  8 16:37:35 2003
From: s1465@lstud.ii.uib.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sondre_R=F8njom?=)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 17:37:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Authenticating with acl_users
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303081731020.27266-100000@smeller.ii.uib.no>

Ive been looking through AccessControl/User.py to understand the 
validate() methods paramteres. Im not sure what to put inside the request, 
and how to do it. I have been testing around, but I can only manage to do 
authenticate(), but this only tells if the user is valid and has the right 
password. The thing is, I also want to set AUTHENTICATED_USER, but not 
sure how to to this, but I have the idea validate() does all this for you, 
if you pass the right parameters. I have been searching at zope.org and 
google.com for a long time now, but cant find very much useful. The only 
parameters I have put in the REQUEST are __ac_user and __ac_password, but 
I know I also need object value and physical container of the object, but 
dont know how to find this.

/Sondre




From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Sat Mar  8 17:32:18 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:32:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <20030308160036.GA1290@aragorn.wdw>
References: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw>
 <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <20030308160036.GA1290@aragorn.wdw>
Message-ID: <179867806.1047148338@[192.168.0.3]>


--On Samstag, 8. M=E4rz 2003 17:00 +0100 Steffen Hausmann=20
<steffen@hausmann-family.de> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:20:37PM -0500, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>> during __init__ your object has no acquisition content. you cannot use
>> acquisition at that point in time.
>
> How can I check (without raising an error) whether an object has an
> acquisition context or not.
>

There is no reason to check for the acquisition context. As Jens wrote, the =

context
is not available during __init__(). That's a fact. To perform=20
post-__init__()
actions *inside* the acquisition context, you should define your own
manage_afterAdd() method.

-aj





From s1465@lstud.ii.uib.no  Sat Mar  8 17:40:43 2003
From: s1465@lstud.ii.uib.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sondre_R=F8njom?=)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:40:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Authenticating with acl_users
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303081821410.27266-100000@smeller.ii.uib.no>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303081839590.27266-100000@smeller.ii.uib.no>

 I'm creating a python product - which needs to be authenticated; and I=20
 dont want to use any products that does not come with a clean Zope install=
=20
 - so I user Simple User Folder and define two roles admin user and=20
 ordinary user. I just want a user to login via login form, check username=
=20
 and password with the acl_users user list and set the user to=20
 AUTHENTICATED_USER if username and password is correct. Actually I just=20
 want to access the methods which the pop-up authenticator use when one=20
 does /manage.  To me it looks like validate() from AccessControl/User.py d=
oes this for you, but Im not=20
 sure how to use the method. =20
=20
 /sondre
=20
 On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
=20
> > what exactly is it you are trying to achieve? maybe someone can help if=
=20
> > you let us know what the real motivation is.
> >=20
> > jens
> >=20
> >=20
> > On Saturday, Mar 8, 2003, at 11:42 US/Eastern, Sondre R=F8njom wrote:
> >=20
> > > Ive been looking through AccessControl/User.py to understand the
> > > validate() methods paramteres. Im not sure what to put inside the=20
> > > request,
> > > and how to do it. I have been testing around, but I can only manage t=
o=20
> > > do
> > > authenticate(), but this only tells if the user is valid and has the=
=20
> > > right
> > > password. The thing is, I also want to set AUTHENTICATED_USER, but no=
t
> > > sure how to to this, but I have the idea validate() does all this for=
=20
> > > you,
> > > if you pass the right parameters. I have been searching at zope.org a=
nd
> > > google.com for a long time now, but cant find very much useful. The=
=20
> > > only
> > > parameters I have put in the REQUEST are __ac_user and __ac_password,=
=20
> > > but
> > > I know I also need object value and physical container of the object,=
=20
> > > but
> > > dont know how to find this.
> > >
> > > /Sondre
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20



From diabinhow2000@bol.com.br  Sat Mar  8 17:49:21 2003
From: diabinhow2000@bol.com.br (Eduardo Bastos)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:49:21 -0300
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Authenticating with acl_users
References: <9AC72CAA-5189-11D7-913B-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <003601c2e59b$0f77db80$03c8a8c0@diabinhow>

Hello...

Have you seen CookieCrumbler product?
this product allow form's authentication.

Available at zope.org

TIA,
Eduardo Bastos

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jens Vagelpohl" <jens@zope.com>
To: "Sondre R=F8njom" <s1465@drone.ii.uib.no>
Cc: <zope-dev@zope.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Authenticating with acl_users


E-mail Premium BOL
Antiv=EDrus, anti-spam e at=E9 100 MB de espa=E7o. Assine j=E1!
http://email.bol.com.br/
what exactly is it you are trying to achieve? maybe someone can help if
you let us know what the real motivation is.

jens


On Saturday, Mar 8, 2003, at 11:42 US/Eastern, Sondre R=F8njom wrote:

> Ive been looking through AccessControl/User.py to understand the
> validate() methods paramteres. Im not sure what to put inside the
> request,
> and how to do it. I have been testing around, but I can only manage to
> do
> authenticate(), but this only tells if the user is valid and has the
> right
> password. The thing is, I also want to set AUTHENTICATED_USER, but not
> sure how to to this, but I have the idea validate() does all this for
> you,
> if you pass the right parameters. I have been searching at zope.org and
> google.com for a long time now, but cant find very much useful. The
> only
> parameters I have put in the REQUEST are __ac_user and __ac_password,
> but
> I know I also need object value and physical container of the object,
> but
> dont know how to find this.
>
> /Sondre


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From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sat Mar  8 18:37:07 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:37:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <15977.56980.227584.379339@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFGEOOCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

> From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
> Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-7 00:04 +0100:
>  > ObjFields = Products.PythonScripts.standard.Object()
>  > ObjFields = Fields
>  > ObjFields.a_field = 10
>  >
>  > and I got the same error:
>  >
>  > > Error Type: TypeError
>  > > Error Value: attribute-less object (assign or del)
>
> Sure, as you still work with the same object...
>
>   After "ObjFields = Fields", "ObjFields contains "Fields" and
>   no longer the newly created "Object()".

Doh! I should have thought about that!

So, in Python, Fields is a memory pointer and Fields.a_field is the same as
Fields->a_field in C.

It seems what I need is shallow copy from the copy module, and I can't in
Scripts. Oh well, anyway, I'm now using Evan's patch.

Thanks,

Fernando



From jens@zope.com  Sat Mar  8 18:48:14 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:48:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Authenticating with acl_users
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303081821410.27266-100000@smeller.ii.uib.no>
Message-ID: <84A1BF70-5196-11D7-913B-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

by the way, please do not cross-post to several lists. i am restricting=20=

this to the zope list because it is more appropriate.

i don't think you will have any success tring to "use" user folder=20
methods that have to do with authentication outside of the user folder=20=

itself, period. from your description it sounds like all you need is a=20=

user folder implementation that handles cookies. i suggest you=20
investigate the CookieCrumbler product (if you are married to your=20
specific user folder, that is) or you use a user folder that has cookie=20=

hanling built in.

i'm not sure what that "dont want to use any products that does not=20
come with a clean Zope install" is all about. most zope products=20
install by dropping them in the Products folder of either your instance=20=

or in the zope software tree. it doesn't get any cleaner than that.

jens



On Saturday, Mar 8, 2003, at 12:30 US/Eastern, Sondre R=F8njom wrote:

>
> I'm creating a python product - which needs to be authenticated; and I
> dont want to use any products that does not come with a clean Zope=20
> install
> - so I user Simple User Folder and define two roles admin user and
> ordinary user. I just want a user to login via login form, check=20
> username
> and password with the acl_users user list and set the user to
> AUTHENTICATED_USER if username and password is correct. Actually I =
just
> want to access the methods which the pop-up authenticator use when one
> does /manage.  To me it looks like validate() from=20
> AccessControl/User.py does this for you, but Im not
> sure how to use the method.
>
> /sondre
>
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>
>> what exactly is it you are trying to achieve? maybe someone can help=20=

>> if
>> you let us know what the real motivation is.
>>
>> jens
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, Mar 8, 2003, at 11:42 US/Eastern, Sondre R=F8njom wrote:
>>
>>> Ive been looking through AccessControl/User.py to understand the
>>> validate() methods paramteres. Im not sure what to put inside the
>>> request,
>>> and how to do it. I have been testing around, but I can only manage=20=

>>> to
>>> do
>>> authenticate(), but this only tells if the user is valid and has the
>>> right
>>> password. The thing is, I also want to set AUTHENTICATED_USER, but=20=

>>> not
>>> sure how to to this, but I have the idea validate() does all this =
for
>>> you,
>>> if you pass the right parameters. I have been searching at zope.org=20=

>>> and
>>> google.com for a long time now, but cant find very much useful. The
>>> only
>>> parameters I have put in the REQUEST are __ac_user and =
__ac_password,
>>> but
>>> I know I also need object value and physical container of the =
object,
>>> but
>>> dont know how to find this.
>>>
>>> /Sondre
>>
>>
>
>
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From steffen@hausmann-family.de  Sat Mar  8 18:55:09 2003
From: steffen@hausmann-family.de (Steffen Hausmann)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:55:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem with superValues
In-Reply-To: <179867806.1047148338@[192.168.0.3]>
References: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw> <E0AFB9B8-50D1-11D7-8C9C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <20030308160036.GA1290@aragorn.wdw> <179867806.1047148338@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <20030308185509.GA1927@aragorn.wdw>

On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 06:32:18PM +0100, Andreas Jung wrote:
> <steffen@hausmann-family.de> wrote:
> >How can I check (without raising an error) whether an object has an
> >acquisition context or not.
> 
> There is no reason to check for the acquisition context. As Jens wrote, the 
> context
> is not available during __init__(). That's a fact. To perform 
> post-__init__()
> actions *inside* the acquisition context, you should define your own
> manage_afterAdd() method.

The problem I had when I started this post is already solved, but it
occured another problem that makes it necessary to know whether an
object has an acquisition context or not (I should have mentioned that
in my last post).

MfG Steffen
-- 
That you're not paranoid doesn't mean they aren't right behind you.


From s1465@lstud.ii.uib.no  Sat Mar  8 19:28:06 2003
From: s1465@lstud.ii.uib.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sondre_R=F8njom?=)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:28:06 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Authenticating with acl_users
In-Reply-To: <84A1BF70-5196-11D7-913B-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303082025530.28801-100000@smeller.ii.uib.no>

What I meant by "dont want to use any products that does not come with a=20
clean Zope install", was that the system should work with only having the=
=20
default products in a new fresh clean Zope install ;)
Thanks anyway

/sondre

On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

> by the way, please do not cross-post to several lists. i am restricting=
=20
> this to the zope list because it is more appropriate.
>=20
> i don't think you will have any success tring to "use" user folder=20
> methods that have to do with authentication outside of the user folder=20
> itself, period. from your description it sounds like all you need is a=20
> user folder implementation that handles cookies. i suggest you=20
> investigate the CookieCrumbler product (if you are married to your=20
> specific user folder, that is) or you use a user folder that has cookie=
=20
> hanling built in.
>=20
> i'm not sure what that "dont want to use any products that does not=20
> come with a clean Zope install" is all about. most zope products=20
> install by dropping them in the Products folder of either your instance=
=20
> or in the zope software tree. it doesn't get any cleaner than that.
>=20
> jens
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Saturday, Mar 8, 2003, at 12:30 US/Eastern, Sondre R=F8njom wrote:
>=20
> >
> > I'm creating a python product - which needs to be authenticated; and I
> > dont want to use any products that does not come with a clean Zope=20
> > install
> > - so I user Simple User Folder and define two roles admin user and
> > ordinary user. I just want a user to login via login form, check=20
> > username
> > and password with the acl_users user list and set the user to
> > AUTHENTICATED_USER if username and password is correct. Actually I just
> > want to access the methods which the pop-up authenticator use when one
> > does /manage.  To me it looks like validate() from=20
> > AccessControl/User.py does this for you, but Im not
> > sure how to use the method.
> >
> > /sondre
> >
> > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> >
> >> what exactly is it you are trying to achieve? maybe someone can help=
=20
> >> if
> >> you let us know what the real motivation is.
> >>
> >> jens
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, Mar 8, 2003, at 11:42 US/Eastern, Sondre R=F8njom wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ive been looking through AccessControl/User.py to understand the
> >>> validate() methods paramteres. Im not sure what to put inside the
> >>> request,
> >>> and how to do it. I have been testing around, but I can only manage=
=20
> >>> to
> >>> do
> >>> authenticate(), but this only tells if the user is valid and has the
> >>> right
> >>> password. The thing is, I also want to set AUTHENTICATED_USER, but=20
> >>> not
> >>> sure how to to this, but I have the idea validate() does all this for
> >>> you,
> >>> if you pass the right parameters. I have been searching at zope.org=
=20
> >>> and
> >>> google.com for a long time now, but cant find very much useful. The
> >>> only
> >>> parameters I have put in the REQUEST are __ac_user and __ac_password,
> >>> but
> >>> I know I also need object value and physical container of the object,
> >>> but
> >>> dont know how to find this.
> >>>
> >>> /Sondre
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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>=20
>=20



From bluepaul@earthlink.net  Sat Mar  8 20:42:39 2003
From: bluepaul@earthlink.net (David Hassalevris)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:42:39 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.60/2.61 Win32 Crash problem
References: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag> <15977.61087.494955.34968@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <001f01c2e5b3$42e58540$0200a8c0@DAVIDH>

I have a Zope app that allows users to edit invoices.  The invoices are
selected from a list (of hRefs)
(1) User selects an Invoice from a list in order to edit it
(2) There is a delay so the user *again* selects the same invoice BEFORE the
first click renders the new form.
(3) Everything dies and I have to restart Zope.

So it seems that sucessive calls to the same methods, eg
a) the zSql method that will read invoice data
b) a DTML method to display an invoice form.

Is crashing Zope. (I have to restart it).

I realize this is a  general description.  But at this point I am wondering
if others have experienced this kind of problem?  Ideas? Suggestions?

I am using K Interbase connection, Zope 2.61, Windows XP

I get no error-messages.
Thanks much,
David





From jc@cowgar.com  Sat Mar  8 21:00:33 2003
From: jc@cowgar.com (Jeremy Cowgar)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:00:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] PageTemplates in Python
In-Reply-To: <20030308185509.GA1927@aragorn.wdw>
References: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw> <179867806.1047148338@[192.168.0.3]> <20030308185509.GA1927@aragorn.wdw>
Message-ID: <200303081600.33083.jc@cowgar.com>

Greetings.

I am learning zope and have made my first working product to track people, 
however I want to use PageTemplates instead of DTML. Here is an example in my 
code:

class Person:
	...
	...
	index_html = DTMLFile('www/index_html', globals())
	...
	...

right there, I want to use a page template for index_html instead of a DTML 
file, how can I do that?

Thanks,

Jeremy


From rocky.burt@bricsnet.com  Sat Mar  8 21:07:56 2003
From: rocky.burt@bricsnet.com (Rocky Burt)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:07:56 -0500
Subject: [Zope] how to create a new HTTPRequest record
Message-ID: <15978.23468.153793.32163@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>

I have a form that has var names something like this...
  properties.a:record
  properties.b:record
and submit's to a python script named 'myaction'.

Course this creates a record object for me in the python script that my form submits against.

But, is there anyway for one python script to programatically create a record with the same attributes and invoke myaction with that record object?

(this is all TTW of course)

- Rocky


From andrew@logicalprogression.net  Sat Mar  8 21:54:07 2003
From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 21:54:07 +0000
Subject: [Zope] PageTemplates in Python
In-Reply-To: <200303081600.33083.jc@cowgar.com>
Message-ID: <BA9016FF.9DC9%andrew@logicalprogression.net>

from Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile import PageTemplateFile

then

Index_html = PageTemplateFile('www/index_html', globals())

will do the job assuming you have got a file called index_html.zpt in www. I
think index_html.pt also works.

A

On 8/3/03 9:00 pm, "Jeremy Cowgar" <jc@cowgar.com> wrote:

> I am learning zope and have made my first working product to track people,
> however I want to use PageTemplates instead of DTML. Here is an example in my
> code:
> 
> class Person:
> ...
> ...
> index_html = DTMLFile('www/index_html', globals())
> ...
> ...
> 
> right there, I want to use a page template for index_html instead of a DTML
> file, how can I do that?



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sat Mar  8 22:38:59 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 14:38:59 -0800
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308142609.01dfa670@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

The only system I wouldn't really recommend is Mac OS 10.1.  The compiler 
support is pretty thin and there's no Python 2.1.3 binary... from what I've 
heard, this is better in 10.2.

Other than that, the first thing I'd recommend for a production system is 
to roll your own software across the board.  Zope is almost trivial to 
build from source and if you're even considering working in Gentoo, 
building Zope should be a breeze.

Here's an excellent howto on installing Zope that's well worth a read:
http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/HowTos/zopeinstall/ZOPE-INSTALL-HOWTO/index_html

HTH

Dylan



At 11:02 PM 3/7/2003, jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:
>Without starting any arguments, I would like to find out what sort of
>distributions are popular for deploying zope servers. I would like to use a
>common distribution like Redhat, but getting binary packages for common DA's
>is painfully obtuse. I have  used the windows packages with the binary ODBC
>DA an the install went great, the downside is, well, windows. I won't deploy
>a production server with compilers on it. Some thing like Gentoo with it's
>build-from-source design and  ability to do package management would be
>great, But zope isn't  well supported- I would still have to assemble
>packages myself or build various binary parts by hand.
>
>What is the most common deployment in zope production systems?
>
>
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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Mar  8 22:46:38 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:46:38 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Latest stable version / combination
In-Reply-To: <15977.60716.330314.671521@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1046984173.2322.393.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15977.60716.330314.671521@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030308224638.GX17822@audible.transient.net>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Apache at or above 1.3.25  (no problems reported since 1.3.24).

Huh?  Apache 1.3.27 please - http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/CHANGES_1.3
Note the bevy of security related fixes.  People interested in using a
proxy cache should be aware of http://collector.zope.org/Zope/544

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ass."
                                                        -Frank Zappa


From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sat Mar  8 22:52:25 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:52:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [ANN] TextIndexNG 1.09 released
In-Reply-To: <166475959.1047134946@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFKEOPCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

I'm getting errors accessing some of the links, like

http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/TextIndexNG/wiki/TextIndexNG/DocumentConve
rters

 Error type:  AttributeError
 Error value: AUTHENTICATED_USER

Cheers,

Fernando



From edwardam@interlix.com  Sat Mar  8 06:57:37 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 08 Mar 2003 00:57:37 -0600
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com>

I really need to site down and read your site and the book specifically.
Dieter is the man!

On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 07:21, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Edward Muller wrote at 2003-3-6 23:05 -0600:
>  > With all this discussion on :record flags and :list flags can someone
>  > point me to a good reference on the different :flags and how to use
>  > them. Or just explain it! :-)
> 
> There is a HowTo on Zope.org.
> 
> You find a different presentation in
> 
>   <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>
> 
> 
> 
> Dieter



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sat Mar  8 23:03:43 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 00:03:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to create a new HTTPRequest record
In-Reply-To: <15978.23468.153793.32163@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFKEPBCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

See the thread close by called "assignment to form records". Dieter Maurer
suggests using Object for a related problem, and I did it like this:

import Products.PythonScripts.standard
ObjFields = Products.PythonScripts.standard.Object()
ObjFields.a_field = a_value

HTH,
Fernando




From jens@zope.com  Sat Mar  8 23:13:02 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 18:13:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308142609.01dfa670@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <8304435F-51BB-11D7-AA55-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

> The only system I wouldn't really recommend is Mac OS 10.1.  The 
> compiler support is pretty thin and there's no Python 2.1.3 binary... 
> from what I've heard, this is better in 10.2.

i'm not sure what you mean by "compiler support". OS X 10.0, 10.1 and 
10.2 all have complete developer packages you can install with 
compilers etc. there really isn't much of a difference.

as far as python binaries go, if i set up a production-level machine i 
would never use built-in binaries, anyway. you also point out that you 
would roll all software yourself, so whether the OS has a python binary 
or not does not matter. neither of use would use it.

i fully agree with all other recommendations you made. for our larger 
installs we have "standardized" on RedHat 7.3 as the base operating 
system.

jens



From diabinhow2000@bol.com.br  Sat Mar  8 23:29:58 2003
From: diabinhow2000@bol.com.br (Eduardo Bastos)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:29:58 -0300
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl> <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <005201c2e5ca$af1e53b0$03c8a8c0@diabinhow>

Hello Folks!

good small documentation about this, can be had access in
http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/howto/FormVariableTypes and
http://www.zope.org/Members/jpenny/variable_length_forms

the difference flags are that record will be created methods and attributes
of name field.

for example (record)...
<input type=text name=person.name:record size=30>
you have a method person and an attribute name.

for example (records)...
<dtml-in "range(item_count)">
  <input type=text size=30 name="items.desc:records">
  <input type=text size=15 name="items.item:records">
  <input type=text size=10 name="items.qty:records">
</dtml-in>

The receiving method would be handed a list called 'items' where each
listmember is a recordobject with the properties desc, item and qty.
You could loop through them like this:
<dtml-in items>
   <dtml-var desc>: <dtml-var item>, <dtml-var qty>
</dtml-in>

[]s
Eduardo


----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Muller" <edwardam@interlix.com>
To: "Dieter Maurer" <dieter@handshake.de>
Cc: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] assignment to form records


> I really need to site down and read your site and the book specifically.
> Dieter is the man!
>
> On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 07:21, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> > Edward Muller wrote at 2003-3-6 23:05 -0600:
> >  > With all this discussion on :record flags and :list flags can someone
> >  > point me to a good reference on the different :flags and how to use
> >  > them. Or just explain it! :-)
> >
> > There is a HowTo on Zope.org.
> >
> > You find a different presentation in
> >
> >   <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>
> >
> >
> >
> > Dieter
>
>
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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Sun Mar  9 00:30:48 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:30:48 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VHM and SSL problems
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030307192702.01dec888@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030307192702.01dec888@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3E6A8B38.3060108@neurobs.com>

1. Your admin (or you) reloaded httpd using "apachectl graceful" instead 
of "apachectl startssl"

That was what the start script for my httpd daemon was doing. added -D 
SSL  to the call and it worked.

Thanks a lot.
AM


Dylan Reinhardt wrote:

> Assuming nothing has changed in your config files, my first few 
> guesses would be:
>
> 1. Your admin (or you) reloaded httpd using "apachectl graceful" 
> instead of "apachectl startssl"
> 2. You might have somehow blocked port 443 on your server.
> 3. Your server key is encrypted and this is the first time you've done 
> a full server restart since that was set up.
>
> Of course there's any number of ways a change to the config files 
> might crap out ssl.  You have those under version control, right? :-)
>
> It could also be something far more subtle.
>
> Do you have any error messages, tracebacks, or entries in your 
> error_log that might be helpful?
>
> What happens if you telnet to your server's port 443?  Does Apache 
> respond?
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
> At 06:30 PM 3/7/2003, AM wrote:
>
>> I have a ZServer behind Apache 2.0 setup running for quite some time 
>> now. Today morning the Secure portion just stopped working. The 
>> rewrite entry in my ssl.conf file is:
>>
>> http://191.168.10.172:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/nbs.neuro-bs.com:443/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/
>>
>> which for all purposes is valid.
>>
>> Any ideas??
>>
>> TIA
>> AM
>>
>> -- 
>> ==================================================================
>> Aseem Mohanty
>> Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 (R) 
>> 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231
>> ==================================================================
>> "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and
>>  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes
>> ==================================================================
>>
>>
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>
>
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>


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==================================================================
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 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From nthomas@cise.ufl.edu  Sun Mar  9 01:00:47 2003
From: nthomas@cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:00:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] dynamically generated TAL
In-Reply-To: <15974.21004.769416.572350@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030302044639.GD11213@cise.ufl.edu> <15971.45950.565229.839572@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <20030305041834.GG4452@cise.ufl.edu> <15974.21004.769416.572350@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030309010047.GE17610@cise.ufl.edu>

* Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> [2003-03-05 20:37:48 +0100]:
>
> N. Thomas wrote at 2003-3-4 23:18 -0500:
>  >
>  > * Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> [2003-03-03 20:56:46 +0100]:
>  >
>  > > N. Thomas wrote at 2003-3-1 23:46 -0500:
>  > >
>  > > > We have a script that generates TAL. The problem is that the content
>  > > > is not being interpeted as TAL by Zope, but rather as raw HTML.
>  > > 
>  > > You must make a Page Template object from your TAL source code, wrap
>  > > it in an appropriate context (--> "__of__") and return it (or call it
>  > > to let it render).
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > Well, this was a start in the right direction. But after wading
>  > through the archives, the nearest solution I can cruft together is
>  > an external method like this:
> 
> Because, you did not do the "__of__" magic...

Well, after banging my head on this for a few days, I was finally able
to get this to work. Here is the correct code to do this:

    from Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate import ZopePageTemplate

    def talgen(self):

        zptstr = \
    """
    <html>
    <title>This is a dynamically generated ZPT page.</title>
    <body>
    This sentence <b tal:omit-tag="">should contain no tags.</b>
    </body>
    </html>
    """ 

        z = ZopePageTemplate(id=None, text=zptstr, content_type="text/html")
        return z.__of__(self)()

The problem earlier was that I was not defining the method with self so
that it would be bound to the context, hence any references later on to
self threw an error.

> I trust you that you will write a HowTo about dynamic generation of
> TAL code, once you solved your problem ;-)

Yup, doing that now. It should be up on zope.org in the New User How-to
section soon.


Much thanks to Dieter Maurer, and hazmat (Kapil Thangavelu) on #zope
(IRC freenode) for helping me out with this.

thomas

-- 
N. Thomas
nthomas@cise.ufl.edu
Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo


From steve@reidmcmahon.com  Sun Mar  9 01:09:58 2003
From: steve@reidmcmahon.com (Steve McMahon)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 17:09:58 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Equivalent of dtml-with in script or ZPT?
Message-ID: <3E6A9466.3020904@reidmcmahon.com>

Is there a way to achieve in a Python script an effect equivalent to

<dtml-with an_object>
   operations in context of an_object
</dtml-with>

? I know it's possible to call the object's methods, but if I need to 
pass the methods a context (for example to render a DTML method), I get 
the context of the object calling the script, not the context of an_object.

And, for that matter, is there a way to achieve the same effect in a 
TALES expression?

Thanks for all feedback!

-- 
______________________________________________________

Steve McMahon
Reid-McMahon, LLC



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sun Mar  9 02:30:19 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:30:19 -0600
Subject: [Zope] PageTemplates in Python
References: <20030307191206.GA1951@aragorn.wdw> <179867806.1047148338@[192.168.0.3]> <20030308185509.GA1927@aragorn.wdw> <200303081600.33083.jc@cowgar.com>
Message-ID: <3E6AA73B.2050603@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I am learning zope and have made my first working product to track people, 
>however I want to use PageTemplates instead of DTML.
>  
>
I remember posting this not too long ago:

Create Management Screens with ZPT
http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/howto/ZPT_management

        --jcc



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar  9 03:35:50 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <8304435F-51BB-11D7-AA55-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308142609.01dfa670@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308191202.01df80e8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 03:13 PM 3/8/2003, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>>The only system I wouldn't really recommend is Mac OS 10.1.  The compiler 
>>support is pretty thin and there's no Python 2.1.3 binary... from what 
>>I've heard, this is better in 10.2.
>
>i'm not sure what you mean by "compiler support". OS X 10.0, 10.1 and 10.2 
>all have complete developer packages you can install with compilers etc. 
>there really isn't much of a difference.

10.2 ships with gcc 3.x and its related support files.  10.1 and 10.0 use 
gcc 2.95... which was (a gcc guru once told me) less than adequately 
provided with working support files.  I'm not a gcc guru myself, so I can't 
claim any greater understanding than that.

As I understand it, that's a main reason why the hasty migration to Jaguar 
was necessary and why a point-one version change in the OS renders binaries 
incompatible between versions.  It also appears to explain why stuff like 
Safari doesn't get back-ported to 10.1.

In 10.1, you have to compile Python using a process far more obscure than 
the standard configure/make dance before you can get around to setting up 
Zope.  That's a hassle I've not encountered on other unix-ish platforms.

But I know you have more than a passing familiarity with this issue... your 
howto on compiling Python for 10.1 was a life-saver one Saturday 
afternoon.  Thanks for that, BTW. :-)

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar  9 03:56:09 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 19:56:09 -0800
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <005201c2e5ca$af1e53b0$03c8a8c0@diabinhow>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 03:29 PM 3/8/2003, Eduardo Bastos wrote:

>for example (record)...
><input type=text name=person.name:record size=30>
>you have a method person and an attribute name.
>
>for example (records)...
><dtml-in "range(item_count)">
>   <input type=text size=30 name="items.desc:records">
>   <input type=text size=15 name="items.item:records">
>   <input type=text size=10 name="items.qty:records">
></dtml-in>

My unsolicited $.02:

You may want to think twice about relying on this for a public-facing 
production system.

The first rule of security for a public web site is to validate *all* 
client input.  That includes posted values, *and* field names.

Depending on the client to post a form without tweaking the field names is 
a pretty trusting position to take, IMO.  If you're going to validate your 
data anyway, what's the point of specifying data types at any point prior 
to validation?

Including meaningful field names in your form just gives you one more 
failure point... it's one more thing you should be validating but most 
likely aren't, or you wouldn't be using it in the first place.

The field name hack is a really neat trick... but it's not something I'd 
advise depending on for anything important that gets public exposure.

FWIW,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar  9 04:52:49 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:52:49 -0800
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308205008.01e25030@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 11:02 PM 3/7/2003, jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:
>Some thing like Gentoo with it's
>build-from-source design and  ability to do package management would be
>great, But zope isn't  well supported- I would still have to assemble
>packages myself or build various binary parts by hand.

Now that I've gone one record as saying you should roll your own, I 
happened to notice that there *is* a Zope package for Gentoo:

http://cvs.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-x86/net-zope/zope/

HTH,

Dylan



From andreas@andreas-jung.com  Sun Mar  9 08:08:35 2003
From: andreas@andreas-jung.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 09:08:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [ANN] TextIndexNG 1.09 released
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFKEOPCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFKEOPCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <232444157.1047200914@[192.168.0.3]>

Looks like an odd Wiki problem but not a problem of the content.
Try to navigate to the document starting at the top level
document of the wiki.

-aj

--On Samstag, 8. M=E4rz 2003 23:52 +0100 Fernando Martins=20
<fmartins@hetnet.nl> wrote:

> I'm getting errors accessing some of the links, like
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/TextIndexNG/wiki/TextIndexNG/DocumentCo
> nve rters
>
>  Error type:  AttributeError
>  Error value: AUTHENTICATED_USER
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fernando




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From myzope@gmx.net  Sun Mar  9 10:57:04 2003
From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 11:57:04 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl> <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3E6B1E00.90505@gmx.net>

Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> My unsolicited $.02:
> 
> You may want to think twice about relying on this for a public-facing 
> production system.
> 
> The first rule of security for a public web site is to validate *all* 
> client input.  That includes posted values, *and* field names.
> 
> Depending on the client to post a form without tweaking the field names 
> is a pretty trusting position to take, IMO.  If you're going to validate 
> your data anyway, what's the point of specifying data types at any point 
> prior to validation?
> 
> Including meaningful field names in your form just gives you one more 
> failure point... it's one more thing you should be validating but most 
> likely aren't, or you wouldn't be using it in the first place.
> 
> The field name hack is a really neat trick... but it's not something I'd 
> advise depending on for anything important that gets public exposure.

Could you elaborate this a little bit?
I can't see any problem with using field names which hold data structure 
information. What you shouldn't do is _rely_ on the types (name:int 
etc.) for anything important, but using the names to get the data as a 
record or list etc. doesn't seem dangerous for me.

thanks,
oliver



From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Sun Mar  9 14:21:12 2003
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 09:21:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3132@SRV-03>

>Now that I've gone one record as saying you should roll your own, I 
>happened to notice that there *is* a Zope package for Gentoo:

Yes, but up until aproximately yesterday if you needed to use any c-based
products- DA's for example, you were on your own. Python-only products just
need to be untarred to work, products that need compilation are a real pain.
If I was commited to using Redhat for some reason, I would be required to
modify spec files and build my own rpms for compiled DA's. I would actually
rather use Gentoo, but for other distributions it's still harder than it
needs to be and may prevent people from using Zope.  


From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Sun Mar  9 16:14:49 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:14:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] identify exception in PythonScript?
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEPECKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Is there a way to do

try:
    something
except:
    print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]

in a PythonScript?

Fernando


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar  9 17:37:52 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 09:37:52 -0800
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <3E6B1E00.90505@gmx.net>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309083344.01e2a590@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 02:57 AM 3/9/2003, Oliver Bleutgen wrote:
>Could you elaborate this a little bit?
>I can't see any problem with using field names which hold data structure 
>information.

The names themselves aren't a problem... it's the behavior they enable.

If you use them in the way they're intended, you are implicitly trusting 
your clients not to cause any mischief.  That might be fine for an intranet 
message board, but I sure wouldn't recommend it for e-commerce.

>What you shouldn't do is _rely_ on the types (name:int etc.) for anything 
>important,

That's my point.

>but using the names to get the data as a record or list etc. doesn't seem 
>dangerous for me.

Except that you're passing the client some degree of control over how your 
data is managed.

It sounds like we're agreed that using <input type="text" 
name="my_num:int"> doesn't mean you can simply assume that whatever 
conversion the zserver performs must be correct.  You should still verify 
that the value of my_num is an integer... and should do so based on 
*expecting* an integer, not on what the field name contains.

But let's take that one step further to this example: <input type="text" 
name="person.f_name:string:required">

Two things are wrong here... first is, if you use options like required, 
default or ignore_empty you're giving the client even more control over how 
your data validates.  How that can be a good idea is beyond me.

The second -- somewhat more subtle -- issue is using record notation at 
all.  What are the odds that your record naming scheme maps closely to how 
this information is structured in your RDBMS?  How much more vulnerable do 
you make yourself to SQL-based attacks if you used this naming technique on 
anything that passes off data to a SQL query?  Are you looping over 
*everything* you find in given record, or only looking for the attributes 
you're expecting?  I realize that quoting your input with sqlvar takes care 
of the worst insertion attacks, but that's something I'd consider a last 
line of defense rather than a primary means of providing security.

It's easier not to validate, but that's not a habit I'd recommend for 
serious projects.  I'm only raising issues with field naming to the degree 
that it's most likely to be used to reduce validation work.

Dylan



From diabinhow2000@bol.com.br  Sun Mar  9 17:39:27 2003
From: diabinhow2000@bol.com.br (Eduardo Bastos)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:39:27 -0300
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl> <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <3E6B1E00.90505@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c2e662$d5f85380$03c8a8c0@diabinhow>

Hi!

i agree with oliver and doesnt seem dangerous for using data structure
information in a html page.
i checked too types this structures on python scripts and dont have any
problems...

[]s
Eduardo


> Could you elaborate this a little bit?
> I can't see any problem with using field names which hold data structure
> information. What you shouldn't do is _rely_ on the types (name:int
> etc.) for anything important, but using the names to get the data as a
> record or list etc. doesn't seem dangerous for me.



From dbasch@yahoo.com  Sun Mar  9 19:12:56 2003
From: dbasch@yahoo.com (Derek Basch)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 11:12:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Debugging Zope Products
In-Reply-To: <20030309170009.22844.36940.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20030309191256.45575.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,
I am trying to understand how to use the interactive
dubugger and am stuck on something. At the very
beginning of the "Interactive Debugging" section of
the Zope Developers Guide:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/TestingAndDebugging.stx#4-23

There is this paragraph:

"So, for the sake our example, let's say that you have
a News object which is defined in a Zope Product
called ZopeNews, and is located in the
lib/python/Products/ZopeNews directory. The class that
defines the News instance is also called News, and is
defined in the News.py module in your product."

I do not understand what the author means by "News
object"? What exactly is a News object and how was it
defined? Is it a class that was registered with the
registrar object during product initialization?

What would really help me is a tutorial using a real
Zope product rather than a fake one like in the
Developers Guide. Can anyone clear my confusion?

Thanks,
Derek Basch


 


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From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:35:08 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:35:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] identify exception in PythonScript?
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEPECKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEPECKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <15979.53164.870156.641023@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-9 17:14 +0100:
 > 
 > Is there a way to do
 > 
 > try:
 >     something
 > except:
 >     print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]
 > 
 > in a PythonScript?

After you read the "README" for PythonScripts and provided
the necessary security declarations to make "sys.exc_info"
accessible...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:26:16 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:26:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Basic Authentication Realm
In-Reply-To: <200303081334.02010.kevin@movieextras.ie>
References: <200303081334.02010.kevin@movieextras.ie>
Message-ID: <15979.52632.134995.877394@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Kevin Gill wrote at 2003-3-8 13:34 +0000:
 > Browser Friendly Message via Basic Authentication (Zope/exUserFolder)
 > 
 > I want to set a realm for a part of a site. Basically, I have two directories, 
 > one for category A users and one for category B users.

Use a SiteAccess AccessRule and set RESPONSE.realm as you
want. It might be necessary to use an ExternalMethod as
AccessRule.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:21:09 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:21:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is It Possible to Set a Folder's Properties Using DTML?
In-Reply-To: <20030308001048.23005.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030308001048.23005.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15979.52325.918885.430459@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jonathan Mark wrote at 2003-3-7 16:10 -0800:
 > I would like to be able to modify the value of a
 > folder's property any time I access a dtml-method over
 > the web.
 > 
 > However, I do not see any dtml tag which will set a
 > folder's property. <dtml-let> inserts a new variable
 > into the namespace but does not set a property. 

You call (--> "dtml-call") the corresponding API method (-->
"manage_changeProperties").


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:17:09 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:17:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Single authentication for several servers
In-Reply-To: <200303071856.38386.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303071856.38386.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <15979.52085.162786.218520@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-7 18:56 +0100:
 > ....
 > My problem is that when I switch from the first server to the second, I'd like 
 > to avoid a second authentication. So my idea was to access to server2 
 > throught "http://www.site1.com/site2", with Apache handling a new rewrite 
 > rule in proxy mode. Do you think that it should work (I can't test easilly 
 > before asking you !!)  ??

I think this can work.

Just try it....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:31:36 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:31:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to create a new HTTPRequest record
In-Reply-To: <15978.23468.153793.32163@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
References: <15978.23468.153793.32163@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
Message-ID: <15979.52952.604535.804436@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Rocky Burt wrote at 2003-3-8 16:07 -0500:
 > I have a form that has var names something like this...
 >   properties.a:record
 >   properties.b:record
 > and submit's to a python script named 'myaction'.
 > 
 > Course this creates a record object for me in the python script that my form submits against.
 > 
 > But, is there anyway for one python script to programatically create a record with the same attributes and invoke myaction with that record object?
 > 
 > (this is all TTW of course)

from Products.PythonScripts.standard import Object

newObj= Object()
for k,v in oldObj.items(): setattr(newObj,k,v)



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:34:17 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:34:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Equivalent of dtml-with in script or ZPT?
In-Reply-To: <3E6A9466.3020904@reidmcmahon.com>
References: <3E6A9466.3020904@reidmcmahon.com>
Message-ID: <15979.53113.295276.4174@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Steve McMahon wrote at 2003-3-8 17:09 -0800:
 > Is there a way to achieve in a Python script an effect equivalent to
 > 
 > <dtml-with an_object>
 >    operations in context of an_object
 > </dtml-with>

There is not equivalent to "dtml-with". You must do it explicitly.

 > ? I know it's possible to call the object's methods, but if I need to 
 > pass the methods a context (for example to render a DTML method), I get 
 > the context of the object calling the script, not the context of an_object.

Example:

	dtmlMethod= an_object.method
	dtmlMethod(an_object, an_object.REQUEST)

 > And, for that matter, is there a way to achieve the same effect in a 
 > TALES expression?

Same way....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:28:19 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:28:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.60/2.61 Win32 Crash problem
In-Reply-To: <001f01c2e5b3$42e58540$0200a8c0@DAVIDH>
References: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag>
 <15977.61087.494955.34968@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <001f01c2e5b3$42e58540$0200a8c0@DAVIDH>
Message-ID: <15979.52755.24726.757753@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David Hassalevris wrote at 2003-3-8 12:42 -0800:
 > I have a Zope app that allows users to edit invoices.  The invoices are
 > selected from a list (of hRefs)
 > (1) User selects an Invoice from a list in order to edit it
 > (2) There is a delay so the user *again* selects the same invoice BEFORE the
 > first click renders the new form.
 > (3) Everything dies and I have to restart Zope.
 > 
 > So it seems that sucessive calls to the same methods, eg
 > a) the zSql method that will read invoice data
 > b) a DTML method to display an invoice form.
 > 
 > Is crashing Zope. (I have to restart it).
 > 
 > I realize this is a  general description.  But at this point I am wondering
 > if others have experienced this kind of problem?  Ideas? Suggestions?
 > 
 > I am using K Interbase connection, Zope 2.61, Windows XP

This is not normal. Maybe, a bug in your DA?


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:25:06 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:25:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Simple: Update a ZClass property via Python Script
In-Reply-To: <200303080015.43985.jc@cowgar.com>
References: <20030307170008.30311.26212.Mailman@mail.python.org>
 <3E693587.5070005@sdsc.edu>
 <200303080015.43985.jc@cowgar.com>
Message-ID: <15979.52562.915704.549982@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jeremy Cowgar wrote at 2003-3-8 00:15 -0500:
 > I have just finished the ZooExhibit product tutorial. It checks the property 
 > of a ZClass, last_meal_time to see if the animal is hungry. If so, I want to 
 > feed it (practice). So, I created a python script with a link to it inside 
 > the <dtml-if isHungry> area, and in it I have:
 > 
 > manage_changeProperties(last_meal_time, '2002-01-01')

ZClass properties usually live in a property sheet.
You must call the "manage_changeProperties" of the corresponding
property sheet.

I forgot how to access the property sheet. I think it was

  instance.propertysheets.sheetname

Search the archives, to find out precisely....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar  9 23:19:50 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:19:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Easy One
In-Reply-To: <99484246-50D6-11D7-B255-0050E4103C7D@globalexchange.org>
References: <99484246-50D6-11D7-B255-0050E4103C7D@globalexchange.org>
Message-ID: <15979.52246.461183.696771@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bergen Moore wrote at 2003-3-7 11:54 -0800:
 > I just built a python script called url_quote (in my 'code' folder) and 
 > called it like so from dtml:
 > <dtml-var "webClient('http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query=' + 
 > code.url_quote(querystring))">
 > 
 > The script: (with Parameter List having the parameter 'astring')
 > # Import a standard function
 > from Products.PythonScripts.standard import url_quote_plus
 > 
 > # Return a string suitable for URL's.
 > return "%s" % url_quote_plus(astring)

This is the same as "return url_quote_plus(astring)",
just a bit more complex ;-)

 > Ok .. this should be really easy but it's driving me nuts. How to I set
 > an attribute on a variable when it's being rendered inside of a
 > function? Here's what I mean:
 > 
 > <dtml-var "webClient('http://192.168.0.1/getSqlResults?query=' +
 > querystring)">

   <dtml-var "webclient(.... + url_quote(querystring))">

provided that your "url_quote" script is accessible from the
current DTML namespace.



Dieter


From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Sun Mar  9 03:19:30 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 11:19:30 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] it there a cvs in zope?
Message-ID: <20030309031930.616.qmail@web15213.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!
I am working in a research institute. we use cvs to
organize the source code and zope to manage papers.
I wonder if there a toolkit can merge cvs into zope
interface, seems they are all file system. Is it
possible? any suggestion?

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From ruahm@yahoo.com  Mon Mar 10 00:04:25 2003
From: ruahm@yahoo.com (=?iso-8859-1?q?Rua=20Haszard=20Morris?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:04:25 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [Zope] dynamic form checkbox data
Message-ID: <20030310000425.12757.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I have a form which has (dynamically-generated)
checkboxes (from database rows).

these are of the form:
<input type=checkbox name="ismember:list:string"
checked><dtml-var sequence-var-name>
(some do not default to checked).

When I'm processing the form data, the list contains
data for only those that are checked (i.e. no list if
none are checked, a short list if some are checked).

How can I generate a list of boolean values
representing the user's selections?  I need to use the
boolean value in a dtml-if in the sql that processes
the form data.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks,
Rua HM. 

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From florian.konnertz@web.de  Mon Mar 10 01:48:30 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:48:30 +0100
Subject: [Zope] VirtualHost and Apache: VH not found, why?
Message-ID: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>

Hello all!

Please help me with the following VirtualHost problem using of Zope 
behind Apache in the common way (Apache first (needed for other 
websites) zope behind it (should also drive several domains.))



Conf. details:

http://noowiki.homelinux.net points to my local IP.

Ports:
- Apache is listening on Port 80
- Zope is listening on port 8080

--------------------------------

Apache:

/etc/apache/httpd.conf

Port 80
[...]
<VirtualHost *>
         ServerName noowiki.homelinux.net
         ServerAlias noowiki.homelinux.net
         <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
                 RewriteEngine On
                 RewriteRule ^/(.*) 
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/$1 
[P]
         </IfModule>
</VirtualHost>
--------------------------------

Zope:
- Port 8080
- VitualHostMonster in root folder, no entries in mappings tab
- content ie. index_html in folder "openspirit.de" in root

z2.py

# Port for HTTP Server. The standard port for HTTP services is 80.
HTTP_PORT=8080

-------------------------------

Error:

Resource not found
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.

Check the URL and try again.

Resource: VirtualHostBase GET

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
150, in publish_module
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
114, in publish
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 158, 
in zpublisher_exception_hook
     (Object: Zope)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
89, in publish
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, 
line 278, in traverse
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 
102, in __bobo_traverse__
     (Object: Zope)
   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, 
line 470, in notFoundError
NotFound: (see above)

-------------------------

Logs:

root@grooveway:/var/log/apache# tail -f rewrite_log
192.168.0.13 - - [08/Mar/2003:18:58:13 +0100] 
[noowiki.org/sid#80d7f8c][rid#80e5fe4/initial] (1) go-ahead with proxy 
request 
proxy:http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/ 
[OK]

tail  /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0/var/Z2.log
127.0.0.1 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:19:24:19 +0200] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/ 
HTTP/1.0" 404 2298 "" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) 
Gecko/20020826"


What's wrong?
Do i have to put an entry in the mappings tab?

I hope you can give me a hint what to try next, I'll be very glad if i'd 
solve this prob because then i can migrate my site to my own root server!


Best regards and TIA,
Florian




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and wisdom traditions



From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 10 01:52:58 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:52:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
References: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <20030310015258.GC987@piper.madduck.net>

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also sprach jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com <jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com> [=
2003.03.08.0802 +0100]:
> What is the most common deployment in zope production systems?

I use Debian GNU/Linux just because it is, in my experience, the most
hassle-free. You just install packages and it works. And you can
upgrade ad libitum. No RPM dependency hell, no need to compile
anything, it's rock solid and well tested.

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From Michael@CenturySoftware.com.au  Mon Mar 10 02:20:26 2003
From: Michael@CenturySoftware.com.au (Michael Fox)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:20:26 +1100
Subject: [Zope] How to list subfolders of any folder in DTML?
Message-ID: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C44428C@ZEUS.Intra.net>

Hi *,

I'm having problems with what seems to be an easy task. I have a site =
which looks similar to below...

Folder A
	Folder B
		Folder B1
		Folder B2
		Folder B3
	Folder C
		Folder C1
	Folder D
		Folder D1
		Folder D2

I have a DTML Method in my Folder A named "listSubfolders" which =
contains the following code:

<dtml-in "objectItems(['Folder'])" sort=3D"id" skip_unauthorized>
  <li><a href=3D"&dtml-absolute_url;"><dtml-var title_or_id></a></li>
</dtml-in>

I want the ability to call this object in any one index_html (DTML =
Document) within any one folder, to create some sort of navigation of =
it's subfolders. eg. If I'm looking at index_html in Folder B I would =
see -

o Folder B1
o Folder B2
o Folder B3

So far the only way I can get this to work is change my DTML Documents =
to DTML Methods... which isn't really an option due to an existing =
ZCatalogue amongst other things. If anyone can suggest a work around or =
point me in the right direction it would be appreciated.

Regards,

Michael Fox
Web Analyst Programmer
Century Software
Tel: +61-2-9460-1422=20
Fax: +61-2-9460-3098


From htan@gmx.de  Mon Mar 10 02:45:20 2003
From: htan@gmx.de (Heri)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:45:20 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Where is zope best practice?
Message-ID: <00a301c2e6af$19f55910$4664a8c0@HTAN>

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Hi,

I'm currently looking to the best way to develop zope =
application/products.
I've been searching throughout the website and I couldn't find any =
documentation of the 'best practice' on developing a zope products.
Besides this there are many limitation such as no proper IDE to be used =
to develop a product.
I've heard of WingIDE but I'm not sure how helpful this could be in =
developing the Zope Applications/Products.

I'm a Java programmer and attracted to Zope because of many small =
available applications.
I've mastered Python in the last few days and looking forward developing =
Zope Products.
But with little documentation, best practices and tools, I think, Zope =
won't be much helpful to me in building rapid and robust application.
I have been always very keen in knowing Python and Zope.
But something draw me back is the little/no documented best practice on =
developing zope products.

In Java, if one develops an application using JSP (Java Server Page), =
one can use some types of framework such as Struts, Tapestry. Or s/he =
may uses JSP itself.
There are also documented best practice in developing this JSP =
application such as pattern to be used and how you separate =
presentation, business logic and data.
There are also many IDEs and other modelling tools that can be very =
helpful.
>From so many tools, documentation, I am still in favour of developing a =
large application using JAVA instead of Zope or Python.


I'm still keen to know zope further.
Can someone help me to find out the best practice in developing Zope =
Products?

regards,
Heri





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From lewicki@provider.pl  Mon Mar 10 03:17:29 2003
From: lewicki@provider.pl (Pawel Lewicki)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 04:17:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] LDAPUserFolder 1.2b2 + Zope 2.6.1 + Windows
Message-ID: <b4h031$sig$1@main.gmane.org>

Hello,
I try to install the following product and I get the error message:

 import ldap
ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initldap)

Does anyone know what it means?

Pawel Lewicki





From jens@zope.com  Mon Mar 10 04:02:07 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:02:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] LDAPUserFolder 1.2b2 + Zope 2.6.1 + Windows
In-Reply-To: <b4h031$sig$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <0F77065D-52AD-11D7-9D3E-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

you need to provide the full traceback in order for anyone to help you.

my guess: your python-ldap module is not compatible or not built 
correctly.

jens


On Sunday, Mar 9, 2003, at 22:17 US/Eastern, Pawel Lewicki wrote:

> Hello,
> I try to install the following product and I get the error message:
>
>  import ldap
> ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initldap)
>
> Does anyone know what it means?
>
> Pawel Lewicki
>



From gcw-python@rezidew.net  Mon Mar 10 05:46:43 2003
From: gcw-python@rezidew.net (G. Clifford Williams)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:46:43 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <3E680283.3020704@d-designz.co.nz>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net> <3E680283.3020704@d-designz.co.nz>
Message-ID: <200303092346.43301.gcw-python@rezidew.net>

Where does one find a list of all of the attributes and properties that can be 
called/referenced from TAL statements?

On Thursday 06 March 2003 08:22 pm, Chris Beaven wrote:
> <html>
>   <head>
> <title tal:content="template/title">Title</title>
>  </head>
>  <body tal:define="objects container/objectValues;temp
> python:objects.sort(lambda x, y: cmp(x.title.upper(), y.title.upper()))">
>    <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title">Title</font>
>   <ul tal:condition="objects">
>     <tal:block repeat="item objects">
>     <li tal:condition="python:item.id!=template.id">
>           <span tal:replace="item/title">ITEM</span>
>     </li>
>     </tal:block>
>   </ul>
>   </body>
> </html>
>
> You could also use item/title_or_id if you wanted to display the id if
> the object has no title...
>
> G. Clifford Williams wrote:
> >I'm just starting to work with ZPT (as of today), the first question I
> >have
> >is; Is there a way to keep "template/title" from being displayed in the
> >list
> >that is generated by the tal:repeate directive?
> >
> >I'd like to generate a list of links that does not include the
> >index_html
> >page.
> >
> >My second question is: Is there any way to sort the list that's
> >generated?
> >
> >--The code that I have--
> >
> > <title tal:content="template/title">Title</title>
> > </head>
> > <body>
> >   <font size=+1 tal:content="template/title">Title</font>
> >  <UL tal:condition="container/objectValues">
> >    <LI tal:repeat="item container/objectValues">
> >          <span tal:replace="item/title">ITEM</span>
> >    </LI>
> >  </UL>
> >
> >thanks in advance
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Mon Mar 10 06:34:59 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 00:34:59 -0600
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <1047278099.2897.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

All that things like :record and :records do (after reading various
docs) is pass a variable names items with the following attributes
.desc, .item, .qty. What you do with that variable is then up to you.

I don't see how using this functionality is in any way a security hole.


I would love a an equivalent :object and :objects flag something like
this:

<dtml-in "range(item_count)">
  <input type=text size=30 name="items.desc:objects:Item">
  <input type=text size=15 name="items.item:objects:Item">
  <input type=text size=10 name="items.qty:objects:Item">
</dtml-in>

Where an 'object' (or objects) is created (Python class is instantiated)
and getter and setter methods for .desc, .item and .qty get called with
the provided values. For instance the above snippet would create a new
object called items, which is an instance of class Item. Class Item
would have get_desc, get_item, get_qty, set_desc, set_item, set_qty
methods. These would then act as classic getter and setter methods.

On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 21:56, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> At 03:29 PM 3/8/2003, Eduardo Bastos wrote:
> 
> >for example (record)...
> ><input type=text name=person.name:record size=30>
> >you have a method person and an attribute name.
> >
> >for example (records)...
> ><dtml-in "range(item_count)">
> >   <input type=text size=30 name="items.desc:records">
> >   <input type=text size=15 name="items.item:records">
> >   <input type=text size=10 name="items.qty:records">
> ></dtml-in>
> 
> My unsolicited $.02:
> 
> You may want to think twice about relying on this for a public-facing 
> production system.
> 
> The first rule of security for a public web site is to validate *all* 
> client input.  That includes posted values, *and* field names.
> 
> Depending on the client to post a form without tweaking the field names is 
> a pretty trusting position to take, IMO.  If you're going to validate your 
> data anyway, what's the point of specifying data types at any point prior 
> to validation?
> 
> Including meaningful field names in your form just gives you one more 
> failure point... it's one more thing you should be validating but most 
> likely aren't, or you wouldn't be using it in the first place.
> 
> The field name hack is a really neat trick... but it's not something I'd 
> advise depending on for anything important that gets public exposure.
> 
> FWIW,
> 
> Dylan
> 
> 
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From nthomas@cise.ufl.edu  Mon Mar 10 06:37:52 2003
From: nthomas@cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:37:52 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <200303092346.43301.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net> <3E680283.3020704@d-designz.co.nz> <200303092346.43301.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
Message-ID: <20030310063751.GA29740@cise.ufl.edu>

* G. Clifford Williams <gcw-python@rezidew.net> [2003-03-09 23:46:43 -0600]:
> Where does one find a list of all of the attributes and properties
> that can be called/referenced from TAL statements?

Look at Appendix C in the Zope book, "Zope Page Template Reference".

Find the Zope book here:

    http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/current/ZopeBook.pdf

thomas

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From edwardam@interlix.com  Mon Mar 10 06:55:13 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 00:55:13 -0600
Subject: [Zope] popular distributions
In-Reply-To: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
References: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B312F@SRV-03>
Message-ID: <1047279313.2897.11.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Some admins swear by binary packages. Some admins swear by source.

Some admins swear by debian. Some admins swear by RedHat. Other swear at
Linux and swear by *BSD. Some, or so it's rumored, swear by various M$
products.

For zope I tend to install from source, including any additional
products/python modules I need. That doesn't mean it's right, but it's
been the easiest to support.

I'd say the most common platform that zope is deployed on is linux, but
that's just speculation.

On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 01:02, jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com wrote:
> Without starting any arguments, I would like to find out what sort of
> distributions are popular for deploying zope servers. I would like to use a
> common distribution like Redhat, but getting binary packages for common DA's
> is painfully obtuse. I have  used the windows packages with the binary ODBC
> DA an the install went great, the downside is, well, windows. I won't deploy
> a production server with compilers on it. Some thing like Gentoo with it's
> build-from-source design and  ability to do package management would be
> great, But zope isn't  well supported- I would still have to assemble
> packages myself or build various binary parts by hand. 
> 
> What is the most common deployment in zope production systems?
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 06:56:56 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 22:56:56 -0800
Subject: [Zope] How to list subfolders of any folder in DTML?
In-Reply-To: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C44428C@ZEUS.Intra.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309225332.01e4f8d0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 06:20 PM 3/9/2003, Michael Fox wrote:
>I want the ability to call this object in any one index_html (DTML 
>Document) within any one folder, to create some sort of navigation of it's 
>subfolders.

If it has to be called from a DTML Document, try:

<dtml-with aq_parent>
         <dtml-var listSubfolders>
</dtml-with>

That should do the trick.

HTH,

Dylan



From edwardam@interlix.com  Mon Mar 10 07:09:11 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 01:09:11 -0600
Subject: [Zope] VirtualHost and Apache: VH not found, why?
In-Reply-To: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>
References: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>
Message-ID: <1047280150.2897.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

try [L,P]

although I don't know if that will fix it.

On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 19:48, Florian Konnertz wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> Please help me with the following VirtualHost problem using of Zope 
> behind Apache in the common way (Apache first (needed for other 
> websites) zope behind it (should also drive several domains.))
> 
> 
> 
> Conf. details:
> 
> http://noowiki.homelinux.net points to my local IP.
> 
> Ports:
> - Apache is listening on Port 80
> - Zope is listening on port 8080
> 
> --------------------------------
> 
> Apache:
> 
> /etc/apache/httpd.conf
> 
> Port 80
> [...]
> <VirtualHost *>
>          ServerName noowiki.homelinux.net
>          ServerAlias noowiki.homelinux.net
>          <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
>                  RewriteEngine On
>                  RewriteRule ^/(.*) 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/$1
> [P]
>          </IfModule>
> </VirtualHost>
> --------------------------------
> 
> Zope:
> - Port 8080
> - VitualHostMonster in root folder, no entries in mappings tab
> - content ie. index_html in folder "openspirit.de" in root
> 
> z2.py
> 
> # Port for HTTP Server. The standard port for HTTP services is 80.
> HTTP_PORT=8080
> 
> -------------------------------
> 
> Error:
> 
> Resource not found
> Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
> 
> Check the URL and try again.
> 
> Resource: VirtualHostBase GET
> 
> Traceback (innermost last):
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
> 150, in publish_module
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
> 114, in publish
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 158, 
> in zpublisher_exception_hook
>      (Object: Zope)
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
> 89, in publish
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, 
> line 278, in traverse
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 
> 102, in __bobo_traverse__
>      (Object: Zope)
>    File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, 
> line 470, in notFoundError
> NotFound: (see above)
> 
> -------------------------
> 
> Logs:
> 
> root@grooveway:/var/log/apache# tail -f rewrite_log
> 192.168.0.13 - - [08/Mar/2003:18:58:13 +0100] 
> [noowiki.org/sid#80d7f8c][rid#80e5fe4/initial] (1) go-ahead with proxy 
> request 
> proxy:http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/
> [OK]
> 
> tail  /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0/var/Z2.log
> 127.0.0.1 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:19:24:19 +0200] "GET 
> /VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/ 
> HTTP/1.0" 404 2298 "" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) 
> Gecko/20020826"
> 
> 
> What's wrong?
> Do i have to put an entry in the mappings tab?
> 
> I hope you can give me a hint what to try next, I'll be very glad if i'd 
> solve this prob because then i can migrate my site to my own root server!
> 
> 
> Best regards and TIA,
> Florian
> 
-- 
Edward Muller

Interlix - President

Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
Custom Programming - Network Service & Support

Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
  Fax: 417-862-0572

http://www.interlix.com



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 07:19:41 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:19:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Where is zope best practice?
In-Reply-To: <00a301c2e6af$19f55910$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309225719.01e520c8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 06:45 PM 3/9/2003, Heri wrote:
>I'm currently looking to the best way to develop zope application/products.

Aren't we all... welcome to the search!

>I've been searching throughout the website and I couldn't find any 
>documentation of the 'best practice' on developing a zope products.

There are a number of good overviews of this subject.

A great overview of Zope: 
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/book.html
The classic introduction to products: 
http://www.zope.org/Members/gtk/Boring/HowTo-Boring
The nuts and bolts of products: 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html

If you've got Python under your belt, there's nothing better than looking 
at a bunch of core products to see how they work.

>But with little documentation, best practices and tools, I think, Zope 
>won't be much helpful to me in building rapid and robust application.

Once you develop facility with Zope, you won't need the docs that 
much.  Unlike JSP, it's actually possible to keep most of this in your head 
once you understand it.  And it's a lot easier to find the right docs when 
you know enough about Zope to know what things are called.

>In Java, if one develops an application using JSP (Java Server Page), one 
>can use some types of framework such as Struts, Tapestry. Or s/he may uses 
>JSP itself.

It may help to think of Zope as an web application framework for 
Python.  Or it might not.  :-)

>There are also documented best practice in developing this JSP application 
>such as pattern to be used and how you separate presentation, business 
>logic and data.

Here's some best practices:

1. Use Python scripts, external methods and Python products to implement 
business logic
2. Use ZPT or DTML to implement presentation.
3. Use ZODB or an external RDBMS for data.

Read up a bit on how these pieces interact and you'll be creating stuff in 
no time.

> From so many tools, documentation, I am still in favour of developing a 
> large application using JAVA instead of Zope or Python.

Once you get to know Zope better, you may change your mind.

>I'm still keen to know zope further.
>Can someone help me to find out the best practice in developing Zope Products?

Take a look at the links I provided, try building something for practice 
and let us know if you have any questions.

HTH,

Dylan



From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar 10 07:30:08 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:30:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to get the path?
Message-ID: <3E6C3F00.4070807@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

I want to upload files to the filesystem on my server (not into zope's 
Data.fs)

With <input type="file" name="file"> I get the filename...right?

But If I want to copy it with an external method like this:

copy = os.system('cp %s /tmp' %file.filename)

it doesent work because file.filename is only the file but not the 
path... (for example test.pdf)

How do I get the path?



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 07:40:05 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:40:05 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VirtualHost and Apache: VH not found, why?
In-Reply-To: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309232211.01e62fa8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

Apache looks like it's set up correctly.

Here's a wild guess: I think the problem might be the name of your folder, 
openspirit.de.  Normally, it's not a big problem to use a dot in folder 
names, but I'll bet that name gets evaluated as a Python expression by VHM 
at some point.

What happens if you re-name it to openspirit_de and change the RewriteRule 
accordingly?

HTH,

Dylan

At 05:48 PM 3/9/2003, Florian Konnertz wrote:
>Hello all!
>
>Please help me with the following VirtualHost problem using of Zope behind 
>Apache in the common way (Apache first (needed for other websites) zope 
>behind it (should also drive several domains.))
>
>
>
>Conf. details:
>
>http://noowiki.homelinux.net points to my local IP.
>
>Ports:
>- Apache is listening on Port 80
>- Zope is listening on port 8080
>
>--------------------------------
>
>Apache:
>
>/etc/apache/httpd.conf
>
>Port 80
>[...]
><VirtualHost *>
>         ServerName noowiki.homelinux.net
>         ServerAlias noowiki.homelinux.net
>         <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
>                 RewriteEngine On
>                 RewriteRule ^/(.*) 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/$1 
> [P]
>         </IfModule>
></VirtualHost>
>--------------------------------
>
>Zope:
>- Port 8080
>- VitualHostMonster in root folder, no entries in mappings tab
>- content ie. index_html in folder "openspirit.de" in root
>
>z2.py
>
># Port for HTTP Server. The standard port for HTTP services is 80.
>HTTP_PORT=8080
>
>-------------------------------
>
>Error:
>
>Resource not found
>Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.
>
>Check the URL and try again.
>
>Resource: VirtualHostBase GET
>
>Traceback (innermost last):
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
> 150, in publish_module
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
> 114, in publish
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 158, 
> in zpublisher_exception_hook
>     (Object: Zope)
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 
> 89, in publish
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/BaseRequest.py, 
> line 278, in traverse
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py, line 102, 
> in __bobo_traverse__
>     (Object: Zope)
>   File /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, 
> line 470, in notFoundError
>NotFound: (see above)
>
>-------------------------
>
>Logs:
>
>root@grooveway:/var/log/apache# tail -f rewrite_log
>192.168.0.13 - - [08/Mar/2003:18:58:13 +0100] 
>[noowiki.org/sid#80d7f8c][rid#80e5fe4/initial] (1) go-ahead with proxy 
>request 
>proxy:http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/ 
>[OK]
>
>tail  /usr/local/Zope-2.5.0/var/Z2.log
>127.0.0.1 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:19:24:19 +0200] "GET 
>/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/openspirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/ 
>HTTP/1.0" 404 2298 "" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) 
>Gecko/20020826"
>
>
>What's wrong?
>Do i have to put an entry in the mappings tab?
>
>I hope you can give me a hint what to try next, I'll be very glad if i'd 
>solve this prob because then i can migrate my site to my own root server!
>
>
>Best regards and TIA,
>Florian
>
>
>
>
>--
>Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de
>http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
>Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
>and wisdom traditions
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>



From nicoe@altern.org  Mon Mar 10 07:42:01 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:42:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] VirtualHost and Apache: VH not found, why?
In-Reply-To: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>
References: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>
Message-ID: <20030310074201.GA16149@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

* Florian Konnertz  [02:48 10/03/03 CET]:=20
>Hello all!
>
>Please help me with the following VirtualHost problem using of Zope=20
>behind Apache in the common way (Apache first (needed for other=20
>websites) zope behind it (should also drive several domains.))
>
>
>
>Conf. details:
>
>http://noowiki.homelinux.net points to my local IP.
>
>Ports:
>- Apache is listening on Port 80
>- Zope is listening on port 8080
>
>--------------------------------
>
>Apache:
>
>/etc/apache/httpd.conf
>
>Port 80
>[...]
><VirtualHost *>
>         ServerName noowiki.homelinux.net
>         ServerAlias noowiki.homelinux.net
>         <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
>                 RewriteEngine On
>                 RewriteRule ^/(.*)=20
>http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/noowiki.homelinux.net:80/open=
spirit.de/VirtualHostRoot/$1=20
>[P]
>         </IfModule>
></VirtualHost>
>--------------------------------

Didn't you forget the NameVirtualHost directive ?

HTH

--=20
(=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 07:46:04 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 23:46:04 -0800
Subject: [Zope] How to get the path?
In-Reply-To: <3E6C3F00.4070807@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309234056.01e4ffd0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 11:30 PM 3/9/2003, Sorin Marti wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I want to upload files to the filesystem on my server (not into zope's 
>Data.fs)
>
>With <input type="file" name="file"> I get the filename...right?
>
>But If I want to copy it with an external method like this:
>
>copy = os.system('cp %s /tmp' %file.filename)
>
>it doesent work because file.filename is only the file but not the path... 
>(for example test.pdf)
>
>How do I get the path?

If you're asking how to get the path where the client stored the file 
they're uploading, you can't.  That information is not provided by any 
browser I'm aware of... it's considered private and/or sensitive.

If you're looking for a way to specify a path where an uploaded file should 
be stored on the server's filesystem, you could allow the client to specify 
it with a text box or select control.  But if you're really looking to 
upload a bunch of files to a remote filesystem, there are far better ways 
to do this, like ftp and scp.

If you're looking for how to upload files to Zope, take a look at the HTML 
source behind the Add File interface... it should tell you most of what you 
need to know.

HTH,

Dylan



From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar 10 07:56:22 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:56:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to get the path?
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309234056.01e4ffd0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3E6C4526.2030005@semafor.ch>


Dylan Reinhardt wrote:

> At 11:30 PM 3/9/2003, Sorin Marti wrote:
> 
> If you're asking how to get the path where the client stored the file 
> they're uploading, you can't.  That information is not provided by any 
> browser I'm aware of... it's considered private and/or sensitive.
> 
> If you're looking for a way to specify a path where an uploaded file 
> should be stored on the server's filesystem, you could allow the client 
> to specify it with a text box or select control.  But if you're really 
> looking to upload a bunch of files to a remote filesystem, there are far 
> better ways to do this, like ftp and scp.
> 
> If you're looking for how to upload files to Zope, take a look at the 
> HTML source behind the Add File interface... it should tell you most of 
> what you need to know.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dylan
> 

My problem is following:

In our intranet it should be possible to upload TeX-Sources. These 
Sources I want to compile into a pdf and a html version and then I want 
to store them in different folders.

So: I don't want to upload a file to zope because (I hope I'm right) 
then it is stored as a zope object in the zope-filesystem (or how that 
is called..) and I can't manipulate the file then... right?

So what I want to do is: upload ONE file into servers filesystem and I 
haven't found a good homepage explaining how to solve that problem...

BTW: I knoe that there is stuff like DTML-TeX and the possibility to 
create pdf on the fly, but I want to try it by myself...

Thanks for any advices, links and hints...

  -mas

PS: I am working under linux.



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 08:31:34 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:31:34 -0800
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <1047278099.2897.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFIEKMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
 <1047013518.4948.23.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <15977.61016.19924.342433@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <1047106657.1499.0.camel@lappy.mchsi.com>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030308193634.01de8ab0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309235125.01e566e0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 10:34 PM 3/9/2003, Edward Muller wrote:
>All that things like :record and :records do (after reading various
>docs) is pass a variable names items with the following attributes
>.desc, .item, .qty. What you do with that variable is then up to you.

Indeed.

>I don't see how using this functionality is in any way a security hole.

By itself, it's probably not. But it facilitates insecure coding habits.

I already suspect that poor validation is rampant in Zope.  One of the 
classic questions that pops up here from time to time is how you're 
supposed to capture the "off" value of checkboxes when you only get 
information on the ones that are checked.  This question betrays a deep, 
dark secret lurking in many web apps: many developers have no idea what 
fields to expect nor what rules their data can be validated against.

Relying on the client to pass along special type & structure codes suggests 
a similarly high level of uncertainty as to what data is expected and what 
rules it should be validated against.  It's not the feature itself, but the 
avoidance of validation that gives me concern.

But every application has its own requirements and its own 
environment.  Each of us needs to determine what level of paranoia is 
justified by the specific requirements of each system.

Dylan



From ashleylloyd@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 10 08:39:05 2003
From: ashleylloyd@hotmail.com (Ashley Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:39:05 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
Message-ID: <BAY2-F199XggKe160AG0004fdc0@hotmail.com>

I've been trying to get PDFs generated "on-the-fly" recently, and tried 
html2pdf. When appending /html2pdf to the end of the url, I got a completely 
blank page (using Win 2k). Apparently, the free Windows binary version does 
not have the full functionality with it (and that is one of the bits - or 
the only bit - thats missing!), if the binary version is the one you're 
using.

I'm only a newbie, so don't take my word for it!! If anyone else knows I'm 
wrong, please put me right, as I'd be interested to know, too.

Cheers

Ashley




From: Samir Mishra <SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae>
CC: zope <zope@zope.org>
Subject: RE: [Zope] Html2pdf problems
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 12:08:30 +0400

Can I use html2pdf in Win XP? I used the directions in the 'how-to' but get
an error when I try and generate the PDF. Something along the lines of
"Internet Explorer cannot open the site html2pdf" :(.

I've tried it a number of different ways, including having the full path to
ghtmldoc in the Python External Method.

TIA.

Samir.

_________________________________________________________________
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From htan@gmx.de  Mon Mar 10 08:42:40 2003
From: htan@gmx.de (Heri)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:42:40 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Where is zope best practice?
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309225719.01e520c8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <00f201c2e6e1$04e85400$4664a8c0@HTAN>

Hi Dylan,

thank you.
Apparently not only myself having this problem.
It will be great if someone would write a book about 'zope best practice'.

thanks.
Heri


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dylan Reinhardt" <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>
To: "Heri" <htan@gmx.de>; <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Where is zope best practice?


> At 06:45 PM 3/9/2003, Heri wrote:
> >I'm currently looking to the best way to develop zope
application/products.
>
> Aren't we all... welcome to the search!
>
> >I've been searching throughout the website and I couldn't find any
> >documentation of the 'best practice' on developing a zope products.
>
> There are a number of good overviews of this subject.
>
> A great overview of Zope:
> http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/book.html
> The classic introduction to products:
> http://www.zope.org/Members/gtk/Boring/HowTo-Boring
> The nuts and bolts of products:
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html
>
> If you've got Python under your belt, there's nothing better than looking
> at a bunch of core products to see how they work.
>
> >But with little documentation, best practices and tools, I think, Zope
> >won't be much helpful to me in building rapid and robust application.
>
> Once you develop facility with Zope, you won't need the docs that
> much.  Unlike JSP, it's actually possible to keep most of this in your
head
> once you understand it.  And it's a lot easier to find the right docs when
> you know enough about Zope to know what things are called.
>
> >In Java, if one develops an application using JSP (Java Server Page), one
> >can use some types of framework such as Struts, Tapestry. Or s/he may
uses
> >JSP itself.
>
> It may help to think of Zope as an web application framework for
> Python.  Or it might not.  :-)
>
> >There are also documented best practice in developing this JSP
application
> >such as pattern to be used and how you separate presentation, business
> >logic and data.
>
> Here's some best practices:
>
> 1. Use Python scripts, external methods and Python products to implement
> business logic
> 2. Use ZPT or DTML to implement presentation.
> 3. Use ZODB or an external RDBMS for data.
>
> Read up a bit on how these pieces interact and you'll be creating stuff in
> no time.
>
> > From so many tools, documentation, I am still in favour of developing a
> > large application using JAVA instead of Zope or Python.
>
> Once you get to know Zope better, you may change your mind.
>
> >I'm still keen to know zope further.
> >Can someone help me to find out the best practice in developing Zope
Products?
>
> Take a look at the links I provided, try building something for practice
> and let us know if you have any questions.
>
> HTH,
>
> Dylan
>
>




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 08:48:56 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:48:56 -0800
Subject: [Zope] How to get the path?
In-Reply-To: <3E6C4526.2030005@semafor.ch>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309234056.01e4ffd0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310004152.01e4fd20@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 11:56 PM 3/9/2003, Sorin Marti wrote:
>In our intranet it should be possible to upload TeX-Sources. These Sources 
>I want to compile into a pdf and a html version and then I want to store 
>them in different folders.

OK

>So: I don't want to upload a file to zope because (I hope I'm right) then 
>it is stored as a zope object in the zope-filesystem

Yes... in the Zope Object Database (ZODB).


>and I can't manipulate the file then... right?

Well... you can manipulate the object and you can set up methods to the 
object that return files.


>So what I want to do is: upload ONE file into servers filesystem and I 
>haven't found a good homepage explaining how to solve that problem...

I think you're looking for LocalFS:  http://sourceforge.net/projects/localfs

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 08:59:55 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:59:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] it there a cvs in zope?
In-Reply-To: <20030309031930.616.qmail@web15213.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310005505.01e609f8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 07:19 PM 3/8/2003, =?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?= wrote:
>Hi!
>I am working in a research institute. we use cvs to
>organize the source code and zope to manage papers.
>I wonder if there a toolkit can merge cvs into zope
>interface

Try:  http://www.zope.org/Members/arielpartners/CVSFile

HTH,

Dylan



From pavel@md5.ca  Mon Mar 10 10:09:22 2003
From: pavel@md5.ca (Pavel Zaitsev)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 02:09:22 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml-var calling python script.
Message-ID: <20030310100921.GA23916@md5.ca>

Hi,
I have a python script(pyfoo) that expects 2 parameters foo1 and foo2.
I'd like to invoke the script from a dtml code. 

So dtmlfoo is:

-----------------------------------
<dtml-var pyfoo>
-----------------------------------

my pyfoo is:

-----------------------------------
## Script (Python) "pyfoo"
##bind container=container
##bind context=context
##bind namespace=
##bind script=script
##bind subpath=traverse_subpath
##parameters=foo1,foo2
##title=
##
# Example code:

# Import a standard function, and get the HTML request and response objects.
from Products.PythonScripts.standard import html_quote
request = container.REQUEST
RESPONSE =  request.RESPONSE

print foo1,'|',foo2,"</br>";
return printed
-----------------------------------

Now, i place dtmlfoo in: /folder and place pyfoo in folder /folder/somewhere/there
so i do invoke dtmlfoo:

http://md5.ca/folder/somewhere/there/dtmlfoo?foo1=hello&foo2=world

What I get is error, specifying that pyfoo expects 2 parameters, and i provided none.
So.... i go to dtmlfoo, and change it like so:

<dtml-call pyfoo>

I do same invocation, it obviously works. Except that call does not expand into hello, world</br>,
which is normal.

How can I get <dtml-var> to behave like dtml-call, as with respect to inhereting parameters from caller
to callee?
I already devised a workaround, for my current problem but its ugly, using dtml-in and other things...
Any help is appreciated.
p.

-- 
Create like god, rule like a king, work like a slave.


From thorsten.harms@arche.ag  Mon Mar 10 11:09:11 2003
From: thorsten.harms@arche.ag (Thorsten Harms)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:09:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problems with msie 6
References: <3E688A19.4050402@arche.ag> <3E693943.30302@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E6C7257.3070309@arche.ag>

J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> Error messages would be unlikely in this case, since it seems that IE6 
> is being overzealous (ie stupid) about its POSTing.
> 
> Look at the server logs (var/z2.log) and see if there are multiple 
> requests where there should only be one. If so, it may be entirely the 
> client's fault.
Yepp! There were multiple requests. I changed my scripts/forms to avoid 
this bug: Now I set a cookie first (saved=No) and check it before I 
insert any data. After inserting I change the cookie (saved=Yes). It 
surely isn't the best solution but it works.

Thanks

Thorsten Harms



From marinus@cs.utwente.nl  Mon Mar 10 11:46:49 2003
From: marinus@cs.utwente.nl (Ria Marinussen)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:46:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs
Message-ID: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027744@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>

Hi,

This weekend my Zope server stopped serving pages.
 
The last entry in my Z2.log file was:
218.27.99.174 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:02:08:40 +0200] "CONNECT
65.54.166.99:25 HTTP/1.1" 404 264 "" ""

Has anyone seen this kind of "attack" before. Is there a way to prevent it?


Our zope:
Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3,
sunos5)


Thanx,
Ria Marinussen





From jamie@audible.transient.net  Mon Mar 10 11:53:54 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 03:53:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs
In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027744@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027744@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
Message-ID: <20030310115354.GA899@audible.transient.net>

> This weekend my Zope server stopped serving pages.
>  
> The last entry in my Z2.log file was:
> 218.27.99.174 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:02:08:40 +0200] "CONNECT 65.54.166.99:25 HTTP/1.1" 404 264 "" ""

I doubt zope stopped serving pages because of this.  Can you reproduce
the hang?
 
> Has anyone seen this kind of "attack" before. Is there a way to prevent it?

Yes, its quite common these days, open proxies provide wonderful
gateways for spammers.  You can't stop the requests from coming, but a
correctly configured server is immune.
 
> Our zope:
> Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3, sunos5)

Are you running ZServer open to the world with no protective proxy?
If so, don't do that.  2.6.1 is unaffected by this request[1], you
should consider the upgrade.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"We must be born with an intuition of mortality.  Before we know the words
 for it, before we know there are words, out we come bloodied and squalling
 with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only
 one direction, and time is its only measure."		-Rosencrantz

[1] although it does generate a 404 directly from medusa-land


From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 13:05:17 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:05:17 +0000
Subject: [Zope] How to run periodic processes - How to set Mail Host
References: <BA890FD0.2073C%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <3E6C8D8D.2060405@nipltd.com>

george donnelly wrote:
> [Juan Emilio Drault wrote (juan@latinwit.com) on 3/3/03 10:05 AM]
> 
>>How to run periodic processes inside Zope?
>>I need it to run a process that sends E-mail every hour.
> 
> you can use the XRON product but a better solution would be to use Cron
> (Unix/Linux).

...or if you must use Windows, there's always the Task Scheduler...

cheers,

Chris



From m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de  Mon Mar 10 13:17:16 2003
From: m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de (Matthias =?iso-8859-15?q?H=F6rtzsch?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:17:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] xmlrpc problems
Message-ID: <200303101417.16606.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>

Hi all,

while trying something with xmlrpc and Amos examples 
(http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/XML-RPC) I got while using the objectIds - 
method an error: objectIds has an empty or missing docstring. Objects must 
have a docstring to be published

If I use for example getId all works fine.

looking into the sources told me that objectIds comment (and also from many 
other methods) looks like:

# Returns a list of subobject ids of the current object.
# If 'spec' is specified, returns objects whose meta_type
# matches 'spec'.

So if I change it to:
"""Returns a list of subobject ids of the current object.
        If 'spec' is specified, returns objects whose meta_type
        matches 'spec'."""

it works now and I get the results of the xmlrpc call.

So is this maybe a 'comment' bug and a case for the collector or should these 
methods no more used via xmlrpc?

Greetings

Matthias


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From diabinhow2000@bol.com.br  Mon Mar 10 13:38:25 2003
From: diabinhow2000@bol.com.br (Eduardo Bastos)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:38:25 -0300
Subject: [Zope] xmlrpc problems
References: <200303101417.16606.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <009b01c2e70a$555b2100$522d84c8@zhang>

Hello Matthias...

The method you use in zope needs a doc string.
Doc string is a small comment about the method.

like this:
def method():
    """ doc string """

[]s
Eduardo Bastos

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias H=F6rtzsch" <m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:17 AM
Subject: [Zope] xmlrpc problems


> Hi all,
>
> while trying something with xmlrpc and Amos examples
> (http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/XML-RPC) I got while using the
objectIds -
> method an error: objectIds has an empty or missing docstring. Objects m=
ust
> have a docstring to be published
>
> If I use for example getId all works fine.
>
> looking into the sources told me that objectIds comment (and also from
many
> other methods) looks like:
>
> # Returns a list of subobject ids of the current object.
> # If 'spec' is specified, returns objects whose meta_type
> # matches 'spec'.
>
> So if I change it to:
> """Returns a list of subobject ids of the current object.
>         If 'spec' is specified, returns objects whose meta_type
>         matches 'spec'."""
>
> it works now and I get the results of the xmlrpc call.
>
> So is this maybe a 'comment' bug and a case for the collector or should
these
> methods no more used via xmlrpc?
>
> Greetings
>
> Matthias
>
>
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>
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From seila@gmx.de  Mon Mar 10 13:53:57 2003
From: seila@gmx.de (seila@gmx.de)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:53:57 +0100 (MET)
Subject: [Zope] newbie: exuserfolder-question
References: <23047.1046963749@www27.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <31455.1047304437@www43.gmx.net>

hi all,  
  
i'm new to xuf (ExUserFolder), read all faqs, readmes, mailinglists 
(hopefully ;-) and still have two short questions:  
(i already posted this question last week to the exusermailinglist, but 
didn't get listed till now :-( 
  
1. sources  
i already have a table for all my users. this table includes the basic  
login fields (password, roles, user name) /and/ the so called properties  
(email, street, etc.). as i dont't like the idea of changing this table  
i'm wondering if it is possible/ a good idea to drop the *propsource part  
of xuf and integrate my table columns into the *authsource part. or would  
that break the whole (idea of the) product?   
any hints? helpful ideas?   
  
2. session-based login method  
as many of my users won't accept cookies: did anybody try to extend the  
cookie-based authentication by session-based authentication ?  
any hints or helpful ideas?   
  
any help appreciated.  
   
regards,  
seila  

-- 
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From gilles@pilotsystems.net  Mon Mar 10 14:10:02 2003
From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:10:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] About the Page template features
Message-ID: <077601c2e70e$be5d0200$0701a8c0@provence>

Hi,

When tailoring the various Page Templates in a Plone site, I noticed
constructs for which I didn't find any doc in the latest ZopeBook (2.6
edition)

1/ <tal:block ...> elements.

2/ <metal:block ...> elements

3/ The i18n namespace.

Okay, I experienced some stuffs with these features and guessed their
respective usage, but having a doc that explain fully their usage would be
helpful.

Thanks in advance.

--Gilles





From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 14:00:49 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:00:49 +0000
Subject: [Zope] newbie: exuserfolder-question
References: <23047.1046963749@www27.gmx.net> <31455.1047304437@www43.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <3E6C9A91.50304@nipltd.com>

seila@gmx.de wrote:
>   
> 1. sources  
> i already have a table for all my users. this table includes the basic  
> login fields (password, roles, user name) /and/ the so called properties  
> (email, street, etc.). as i dont't like the idea of changing this table  
> i'm wondering if it is possible/ a good idea to drop the *propsource part  
> of xuf and integrate my table columns into the *authsource part. or would  
> that break the whole (idea of the) product?   
> any hints? helpful ideas?   

You could always try SimpleUserFolder

> 2. session-based login method  
> as many of my users won't accept cookies: did anybody try to extend the  
> cookie-based authentication by session-based authentication ?  
> any hints or helpful ideas?   

Hmmm, if they won't take cookies, you'll have to come up with some kind of 
embedded-in-url id-based authentication. Yuk.

Still, in your case, I'd just stick with HTTP basic authentication...

cheers,

Chris



From mlong@datalong.com  Mon Mar 10 14:05:51 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:05:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
Message-ID: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

Please forgive me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. I am writting an
application that will be capturing financial information. If I use the
ZODB and create expense and income objects to capture this information
there will over a 1000 objects added a week. I will be tracking history,
archiving data, etc. Is Zope the right tool for this type of application
or am I better off creating the objects that this data is associated
(companies, people, properties, etc) within the ZODB and using a
relational database such as PostgreSQL to track the higher volume
financial data.

tia,
Mike



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 14:07:35 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:07:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Count User Logins
References: <3E673A94.7030109@proceryon.at> <15975.43341.229389.21665@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E6C9C27.10209@nipltd.com>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> 
>   *  use a small persistent object per user to count logins.
>      Note that each login will write this object to the ZODB.
>      Therefore, you place it either on a non-undoable storage
>      or ensure, it is really small.

...it had also better support application-level conflict resolution.

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 14:12:01 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:12:01 +0000
Subject: External Editor on the MAC ? Was: Re: [Zope] External Editor
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>	 <69585360563.20030306145221@Vex.Net> <1047017582.4949.67.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E6C9D31.9010104@nipltd.com>

Edward Muller wrote:
> Does an External Editor helper application exist? I have a client I
> recently did a bunch of zope work for and their HTML designers are
> getting a little annoyed with <textarea/>. And for security reasons the
> client wants the FTP server disabled .. as well as DAV ... Even though I
> explained ipchains/tables to them ...

How did you disable DAV? ;-)

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 14:16:07 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:16:07 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca> <1047018362.4948.79.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E6C9E27.2080208@nipltd.com>

Edward Muller wrote:
> 
> tal:define="url python: result.getpath(result.data_record_id_)"

why not just use result.getPath()?
(you may actually want result.getURL()...)

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 14:22:48 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:22:48 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Authenticating with acl_users
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303081731020.27266-100000@smeller.ii.uib.no>
Message-ID: <3E6C9FB8.8060306@nipltd.com>

Maybe have a look at SimpleUserFolder or XUF?

cheers,

Chris

Sondre Rønjom wrote:
> Ive been looking through AccessControl/User.py to understand the 
> validate() methods paramteres. Im not sure what to put inside the request, 
> and how to do it. I have been testing around, but I can only manage to do 
> authenticate(), but this only tells if the user is valid and has the right 
> password. The thing is, I also want to set AUTHENTICATED_USER, but not 
> sure how to to this, but I have the idea validate() does all this for you, 
> if you pass the right parameters. I have been searching at zope.org and 
> google.com for a long time now, but cant find very much useful. The only 
> parameters I have put in the REQUEST are __ac_user and __ac_password, but 
> I know I also need object value and physical container of the object, but 
> dont know how to find this.
> 
> /Sondre
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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> 
> 




From renfro@tntech.edu  Mon Mar 10 14:36:32 2003
From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:36:32 -0600
Subject: [Zope] VirtualHost and Apache: VH not found, why?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309232211.01e62fa8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de> <5.1.1.6.0.20030309232211.01e62fa8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <20030310143632.GA2643@ch208h>

On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:40:05PM -0800, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:

> Here's a wild guess: I think the problem might be the name of your
> folder, openspirit.de.  Normally, it's not a big problem to use a
> dot in folder names, but I'll bet that name gets evaluated as a
> Python expression by VHM at some point.

In my experience, it handles it fine. I named one of my vhost folders
www.cae.tntech.edu many, many months ago.

-- 
Mike Renfro  / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research,
931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu


From jcowgar@eldoserv.com  Mon Mar 10 14:34:43 2003
From: jcowgar@eldoserv.com (Jeremy Cowgar)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:34:43 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
In-Reply-To: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <200303100934.44310.jcowgar@eldoserv.com>

On Monday 10 March 2003 09:05 am, Michael Long wrote:
> Please forgive me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. I am writting an
> application that will be capturing financial information. If I use the
> ZODB and create expense and income objects to capture this information
> there will over a 1000 objects added a week. I will be tracking history,
> archiving data, etc. Is Zope the right tool for this type of application
> or am I better off creating the objects that this data is associated
> (companies, people, properties, etc) within the ZODB and using a
> relational database such as PostgreSQL to track the higher volume
> financial data.

I asked the same question not too long ago and the answer I got was to give it 
a try and see what it will handle. So far I have been impressed. It requires 
re-thinking if you are a RDBMS guy like me (and like you sound). For 
instance, do not store relations by id, or key, or other values. It'll slow 
things down, store them by path.

Say for instance you have a class and students. Each student can belong to a 
class....

/class/math
/class/history

Those are the paths to the classes. Now in your student table, store that 
path. That is the relation.

Hope this helps. I have loaded it with 31102 * 5 objects. (5 Bible 
translations at 31102 verses (objects) per).

If you do decide to use RDBMS however, it plugs into zope very nicely, so no 
concerns their either.

Jeremy


From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 10 15:07:08 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:07:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
In-Reply-To: <200303100934.44310.jcowgar@eldoserv.com>
References: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com> <200303100934.44310.jcowgar@eldoserv.com>
Message-ID: <3E6CAA1C.9080204@mxm.dk>

Jeremy Cowgar wrote:

>Say for instance you have a class and students. Each student can belong to a 
>class....
>
>/class/math
>/class/history
>
>Those are the paths to the classes. Now in your student table, store that 
>path. That is the relation.
>

Or you could use the mxmRelation product, which does it for you 
automatically.
http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/productList/mxmRelations

Create a folder called "relations" somewhere in you aq path, and pop in 
instances of the relations product.

You can give them meaningfull id's like "students_in_class", 
'"customers_in_companies" etc.

It is relatively easy to use. As far as I know it is used as the 
"philosophical basis" for relations in Zope 3.

regards Max M




From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Sun Mar  9 05:49:10 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 13:49:10 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] puzzle of the underline?
Message-ID: <20030309054910.71941.qmail@web15204.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!
I am browing some script of DTML. and find some
expression like _[name] and _.getitem(name)
What do these underlines mean? a feature of zope or
python language?


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From mlong@datalong.com  Mon Mar 10 15:19:16 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
Message-ID: <E18sP3c-0004dT-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

It is encouraging to hear that the zope can handle some fairly large
numbers. This was one of my biggest concerns. How is performance when
retieving this data? Have you seen any degradation as the number of has
grown, specifically have you seen any threshold that should be avoided?

Thanks,
Mike
> 
> I asked the same question not too long ago and the answer I got was to
give it 
> a try and see what it will handle. So far I have been impressed. It
requires 
> re-thinking if you are a RDBMS guy like me (and like you sound). For 
> instance, do not store relations by id, or key, or other values. It'll
slow 
> things down, store them by path.
> 
> Say for instance you have a class and students. Each student can
belong to a 
> class....
> 
> /class/math
> /class/history
> 
> Those are the paths to the classes. Now in your student table, store that 
> path. That is the relation.
> 
> Hope this helps. I have loaded it with 31102 * 5 objects. (5 Bible 
> translations at 31102 verses (objects) per).
> 
> If you do decide to use RDBMS however, it plugs into zope very nicely,
so no 
> concerns their either.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 10 15:27:53 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:27:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] puzzle of the underline?
In-Reply-To: <20030309054910.71941.qmail@web15204.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030309054910.71941.qmail@web15204.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <345202635.1047313673@[192.168.0.2]>

_ is called the "under namespace". Refer to the Zope Book for details.

-aj

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<novalet@yahoo.com.cn> wrote:

> Hi!
> I am browing some script of DTML. and find some
> expression like _[name] and _.getitem(name)
> What do these underlines mean? a feature of zope or
> python language?
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
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> http://yahoo.eachnet.com/fu/co/rd.php?http://pages.eachnet.com/st/page/wo
> men/women.htm
>
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 10 15:40:42 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:40:42 +0000
Subject: [Zope] About the Page template features
References: <077601c2e70e$be5d0200$0701a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <3E6CB1FA.908@nipltd.com>

Gilles Lenfant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When tailoring the various Page Templates in a Plone site, I noticed
> constructs for which I didn't find any doc in the latest ZopeBook (2.6
> edition)
> 
> 1/ <tal:block ...> elements.
> 
> 2/ <metal:block ...> elements

These are both documented in the book already by the statement:
"All tags in the tal: and metal: namespaces are not output to the browser."

The 'block's are just junk tags inserted to hold tal or metal functionality.

> 3/ The i18n namespace.

This isn't standard.

cheers,

Chris



From jcowgar@eldoserv.com  Mon Mar 10 15:43:26 2003
From: jcowgar@eldoserv.com (Jeremy Cowgar)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
In-Reply-To: <E18sP3c-0004dT-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18sP3c-0004dT-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <200303101043.26620.jcowgar@eldoserv.com>

On Monday 10 March 2003 10:19 am, Michael Long wrote:
> It is encouraging to hear that the zope can handle some fairly large
> numbers. This was one of my biggest concerns. How is performance when
> retieving this data? Have you seen any degradation as the number of has
> grown, specifically have you seen any threshold that should be avoided?

Mike,

I am not certian of the answer to your question because I have not done 
extensive benchmarking yet. I can say that it searches the text of the Bible 
very quickly, but beyond that I'm not certain.

I have not noticed visible changes in Zope's response, but as for raw numbers, 
I do not have any, sorry. Soon I will. I am still in the infancy of my 
project and am just now getting to a place where benchmarking would be even 
remotely useful.

Maybe someone else has an idea? I have heard of ZODB being multiple g's, but 
second hand, not first.

Jeremy



From michael@nichestaffing.com  Mon Mar 10 15:53:38 2003
From: michael@nichestaffing.com (Michael Lewis)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 08:53:38 -0700
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
In-Reply-To: <200303100934.44310.jcowgar@eldoserv.com>
References: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
 <200303100934.44310.jcowgar@eldoserv.com>
Message-ID: <1047311618.2325.20.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi Jeremy,

Just curious, what translations do you have and are they online?

Michael

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 07:34, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
> On Monday 10 March 2003 09:05 am, Michael Long wrote:
> > Please forgive me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. I am writting an
> > application that will be capturing financial information. If I use the
> > ZODB and create expense and income objects to capture this information
> > there will over a 1000 objects added a week. I will be tracking history,
> > archiving data, etc. Is Zope the right tool for this type of application
> > or am I better off creating the objects that this data is associated
> > (companies, people, properties, etc) within the ZODB and using a
> > relational database such as PostgreSQL to track the higher volume
> > financial data.
> 
> I asked the same question not too long ago and the answer I got was to give it 
> a try and see what it will handle. So far I have been impressed. It requires 
> re-thinking if you are a RDBMS guy like me (and like you sound). For 
> instance, do not store relations by id, or key, or other values. It'll slow 
> things down, store them by path.
> 
> Say for instance you have a class and students. Each student can belong to a 
> class....
> 
> /class/math
> /class/history
> 
> Those are the paths to the classes. Now in your student table, store that 
> path. That is the relation.
> 
> Hope this helps. I have loaded it with 31102 * 5 objects. (5 Bible 
> translations at 31102 verses (objects) per).
> 
> If you do decide to use RDBMS however, it plugs into zope very nicely, so no 
> concerns their either.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
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From satimis@icare.com.hk  Mon Mar 10 16:21:59 2003
From: satimis@icare.com.hk (Stephen Liu)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:21:59 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
Message-ID: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk>

Hi all folks,

I join this list recently and have no idea whether this is right place 
for posting following question:

I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort, 
Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.

They provide a platform to keep all scanned images which can then be 
stacked page after page, removing or re-inserting the pages stacked if 
required.  Finally printing them as a pdf file or other format.

One more important job is data searching on the scanned images.  On 
PaperPort you can create a database bank on all scanned images and do 
data searching.

Kindly advise whether "zope" can do the same job?  Thanks in advance.

B.Regards
Stephen Liu



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 17:03:38 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:03:38 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml-var calling python script.
In-Reply-To: <20030310100921.GA23916@md5.ca>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310090214.01e39348@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 02:09 AM 3/10/2003, Pavel Zaitsev wrote:
>Hi,
>I have a python script(pyfoo) that expects 2 parameters foo1 and foo2.
>I'd like to invoke the script from a dtml code.


<dtml-var "pyfoo(foo1, foo2)">

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 17:32:18 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:32:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VirtualHost and Apache: VH not found, why?
In-Reply-To: <20030310143632.GA2643@ch208h>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030309232211.01e62fa8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <3E6BEEEE.1030604@web.de>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030309232211.01e62fa8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310090942.01e39048@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 06:36 AM 3/10/2003, Mike Renfro wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:40:05PM -0800, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
>
> > Here's a wild guess: I think the problem might be the name of your
> > folder, openspirit.de.  Normally, it's not a big problem to use a
> > dot in folder names, but I'll bet that name gets evaluated as a
> > Python expression by VHM at some point.
>
>In my experience, it handles it fine. I named one of my vhost folders
>www.cae.tntech.edu many, many months ago.

All the docs I've seen on VHM seem to make a point of using underscores 
instead of dots in the folder name, which is why I thought of it.

Looking back over the OP, I noticed something else... they're running Zope 
2.5.0, which has known VHM bugs: 
http://collector.zope.org/Zope/235/collector_issue_contents

Zope 2.5.1 VHM works great... I've been running that for months without 
incident.

Getting warmer?

Dylan



From ra019837@ic.unicamp.br  Mon Mar 10 17:39:49 2003
From: ra019837@ic.unicamp.br (Leonardo Fernandes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:39:49 -0300
Subject: [Zope] Session data as parameter to other method
Message-ID: <3E6CCDE5.5000809@ic.unicamp.br>

Hi,

I like to use Session data as a parameter to another method (a Zsql 
Method i.e.). How can I do that in dtml? <dtml-with SESSION mapping> 
doesn't work. I guess I should use getSessionDataBy Key, but I didn't 
figure out exactaly how. Can anyone help me?

Thanks.





From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 10 17:40:16 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:40:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Whether Zope can do the job
In-Reply-To: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk>
References: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk>
Message-ID: <20030310174016.GA16209@piper.madduck.net>

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also sprach Stephen Liu <satimis@icare.com.hk> [2003.03.10.1721 +0100]:
> I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort,=20
> Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.

Zope is an Application Server, it has nothing to do with scanning.

> They provide a platform to keep all scanned images which can then be=20
> stacked page after page, removing or re-inserting the pages stacked if=20
> required.  Finally printing them as a pdf file or other format.

This would not be hard to write.

> One more important job is data searching on the scanned images.  On=20
> PaperPort you can create a database bank on all scanned images and do=20
> data searching.

How do you want to search images? convert them to text? not Zope's
job...

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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 10 17:58:39 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:58:39 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D570@desi2>

Applications that scale beyond thousands of objects in a single container
can perform quite well, but only if you code your app right; you need to
have the application take into account using the Catalog as much as possible
to avoid excessive penalty for traversing to too many objects or relying too
much upon ObjectManager (folder) interfaces for accessing multiple objects.
Traversing to an object is expensive, if you add up many objects, largely
because of security machinery and other concerns.  Using cached data in the
Catalog can help you avoid this performance penalty, even for applications
that do nothing more than list items in a given folder in a sorted and/or
batched manner.

Tips:
- Download and use the BTreeFolder2 product for any folder with many objects
- Subclass BTreeFolder2, and back it with a ZCatalog, and associated UI
	- Assumes working knowledge of writing Zope Python Products
- Use the catalog wherever you can, and only load the objects you need to
access
- Avoid ObjectManager methods like objectItems(), objectValues(),
objectIds() on large containers, use a catalog to get the same results,
which can of-course be filtered, sorted, and batched!

Good Luck,
Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Long [mailto:mlong@datalong.com]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 7:19 AM
To: Jeremy Cowgar; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases


It is encouraging to hear that the zope can handle some fairly large
numbers. This was one of my biggest concerns. How is performance when
retieving this data? Have you seen any degradation as the number of has
grown, specifically have you seen any threshold that should be avoided?

Thanks,
Mike
> 
> I asked the same question not too long ago and the answer I got was to
give it 
> a try and see what it will handle. So far I have been impressed. It
requires 
> re-thinking if you are a RDBMS guy like me (and like you sound). For 
> instance, do not store relations by id, or key, or other values. It'll
slow 
> things down, store them by path.
> 
> Say for instance you have a class and students. Each student can
belong to a 
> class....
> 
> /class/math
> /class/history
> 
> Those are the paths to the classes. Now in your student table, store that 
> path. That is the relation.
> 
> Hope this helps. I have loaded it with 31102 * 5 objects. (5 Bible 
> translations at 31102 verses (objects) per).
> 
> If you do decide to use RDBMS however, it plugs into zope very nicely,
so no 
> concerns their either.
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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> 
> 



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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 10 18:21:54 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:21:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D574@desi2>

Consider using the CMF, perhaps Plone. http://plone.org

Zope could be a good document management system, in this case, with the
assistance of automation-capible OCR (like OmniPage automated via COM
interface).  You would bave to be able to extract text-metadata out of a
document, so obviously you need a content-type in Zope or the CMF that is
capable of taking an image and/or PDF file containing raster data, storing
it, and being able to pass it to an external filter for the acquiring of
text metadata.  You would just need to write a Zope python product that, for
example, with the CMF, defined a method called SearchableText() for your
'document'/image that served up (potentially cached) text extracted from an
OCR system.

You would have to, of course, write an application that fed Zope the scanned
images in order, or at least uploaded them and set metadata.  There are many
possible ways to do this (ZEO, XML-RPC, etc).

Combining the pages could be done with commercial PDF libraries, including
PageCatcher, which is a commercial, Python-based PDF aggregation
library/utility. http://www.reportlab.com/pageCatcher/index.html  There are
likely open-source solutions to this as well (in the xpdf package?),
perhaps.

So, yes, Zope could do this job, but you would have to write the code (feed
scans into Zope, CMF content type) needed and pick decorating software
components (OCR, PDF aggreagation) necessary to do it.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Liu [mailto:satimis@icare.com.hk]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:22 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job


Hi all folks,

I join this list recently and have no idea whether this is right place 
for posting following question:

I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort, 
Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.

They provide a platform to keep all scanned images which can then be 
stacked page after page, removing or re-inserting the pages stacked if 
required.  Finally printing them as a pdf file or other format.

One more important job is data searching on the scanned images.  On 
PaperPort you can create a database bank on all scanned images and do 
data searching.

Kindly advise whether "zope" can do the same job?  Thanks in advance.

B.Regards
Stephen Liu


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From hpinson@indepthl.com  Mon Mar 10 18:36:58 2003
From: hpinson@indepthl.com (hpinson@indepthl.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:36:58 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
Message-ID: <3E6C78DA.12854.AB381A1@localhost>

When I import an .mp3 file into Zope using the "File" object, zope 
just spins. The behavior is the same in both IE 6 and Mozilla 1.1. 

Zope: 2.6
OS: W2K Server

Any ideas why an mp3 file would not import?  I've seen similar 
behavior sporadically when importing image files.

Thanks.

Harlow Pinson
Indepth Learning
Email: hpinson@indepthl.com 
Web: http://www.indepthl.com
Voice: 505-994-2135
FAX: 208-475-7678



From ruger@acsnv.com  Mon Mar 10 18:49:07 2003
From: ruger@acsnv.com (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 10:49:07 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <3E6C78DA.12854.AB381A1@localhost>
References: <3E6C78DA.12854.AB381A1@localhost>
Message-ID: <1047322147.4214.0.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

How big is the file? Is it possible that you're just waiting for it to
upload?

Rick

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 10:36, hpinson@indepthl.com wrote:
> When I import an .mp3 file into Zope using the "File" object, zope 
> just spins. The behavior is the same in both IE 6 and Mozilla 1.1. 
> 
> Zope: 2.6
> OS: W2K Server
> 
> Any ideas why an mp3 file would not import?  I've seen similar 
> behavior sporadically when importing image files.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Harlow Pinson
> Indepth Learning
> Email: hpinson@indepthl.com 
> Web: http://www.indepthl.com
> Voice: 505-994-2135
> FAX: 208-475-7678
> 
> 
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From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Mon Mar 10 18:59:58 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:59:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] identify exception in PythonScript?
In-Reply-To: <15979.53164.870156.641023@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFEEPMCKAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

From: Dieter Maurer
> Fernando Martins wrote at 2003-3-9 17:14 +0100:
>  >
>  > Is there a way to do
>  >
>  > try:
>  >     something
>  > except:
>  >     print "Unexpected error:", sys.exc_info()[0]
>  >
>  > in a PythonScript?
>
> After you read the "README" for PythonScripts and provided
> the necessary security declarations to make "sys.exc_info"
> accessible...
>

Thanks. I'm starting to understand why are there so many missing
functionalities. It's quite frustrating to be looking for basic stuff in
Python which then doesn't work in the Scripts.

So, what's the approach people follow to deal with Scripts limitations? Just
put security declarations? for complete modules or just somefunctions? use
external methods? zclasses?

Are there some guidelines/hints on what could be allowed or not in scripts?

Looking for some light,

Fernando



From jmeile@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 10 19:46:09 2003
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:46:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope hangs
Message-ID: <DAV34uVESKBwQHntqig0002ca83@hotmail.com>

--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, Ria Marinussen <marinus@c...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This weekend my Zope server stopped serving pages.
>
> The last entry in my Z2.log file was:
> 218.27.99.174 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:02:08:40 +0200] "CONNECT
> 65.54.166.99:25 HTTP/1.1" 404 264 "" ""
I think it would be better if you post the last entry in your stupid log
file
(if you have one). It will tell you the last python exception, so somebody
could help you.

Regards,
Josef


From mstein@egrad.com  Mon Mar 10 19:45:06 2003
From: mstein@egrad.com (Marc Stein)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:45:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Create User in DTML question
Message-ID: <OPEIJACAAGFGEIEKLNPGGEIBCEAA.mstein@egrad.com>

I have a rather involved registration process in which users enter
information via multiple forms.  This information is then stored in a user
table in MySQL.  Upon completion of the registration process (and at
subsequent logins) the user should be able to access a registered user area.

It would seem to me that my options are to create the user in MySQL and then
additionally create that user in acl_users or to authenticate the user in
MySQL and not use the user folder at all.  It seems fairly easy to create
the user within the user folder with the manage_users method except that I
have only gotten this to work if I set the Manage Users permission to
Anonymous for the registered user's directory.  This doesn't seem
well-advised.  Is there a way to execute the manage_users method as a
Manager from within a DTML method?

If I authenticate the user using the MySQL user table can I then set that
user as Authenticated within the SESSION object so that they don't have to
re-authenticate within that session?

Towards this end, when a user comes back and enters the registered user's
area they will be prompted for their username and password.  How can I
access the username that they entered?  Is it within the REQUEST.SESSION
object?  Is their a way to override the username/password dialog so that it
asks for "email address" and "password" instead of "name" and "password".

Many thanks in advance for any suggestions that anyone can provide.  This is
my first project in Zope and I'm rather fumbling along.

Marc Stein






From mark.evans.b@bayer.com  Mon Mar 10 19:51:51 2003
From: mark.evans.b@bayer.com (Mark Evans)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:51:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] File Upload problems
Message-ID: <E18sTHd-0003Wm-00@mail.python.org>

Hi all,

I am trying to upload an image file from a form to an External Method so that it
can be loaded as a blob into an Oracle database.  I am having difficulty getting
the file uploaded.

Here is the form:

<form  action="execute_loadblob" method="post"  enctype="multipart/form-data">
<p>Locate file to upload:</p>
<input type="file" name="image" size="16">
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Submit Entry">
</form>
=======================================================================

The external method is called from a DTML method called "execute_loadblob" which
contains the call:

<dtml-var expr="writeBlob(image)">

The external method is:

import sys,os,string,DCOracle2 as dco
def main(image):
     ...
     do something here with image, doesn't matter what
     ...
      return "Something was done"

=============================================================

The gist of the error received, is that image is a "
ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload instance at 1046b04"
instead of being something I can acutally manipulate.  Why is this and how do I
access either the file or the URL pointing to the file?

TIA,

Mark Evans



From jmeile@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 10 19:58:50 2003
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:58:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to get the path?
Message-ID: <DAV73wj1hU1s87QHCpm00022911@hotmail.com>

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--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, Sorin Marti <mas@s...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>=20
> I want to upload files to the filesystem on my server (not into zope's =

> Data.fs)
>=20
> With <input type=3D"file" name=3D"file"> I get the filename...right?
>=20
> But If I want to copy it with an external method like this:
>=20
> copy =3D os.system('cp %s /tmp' %file.filename)
>=20
> it doesent work because file.filename is only the file but not the=20
> path... (for example test.pdf)
>=20
> How do I get the path?
I think you're asking the wrong question. I suppose what you
want to know is how to get the file content. You have to do
something like this:

fileContent=3Dcontext.REQUEST.form['file'].read()

Then, you have to take a look at the localfs dtml methods to
see how a file is created in the local file system.

Regards,
Josef
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<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--- In <A=20
href=3D"mailto:zope@yahoogroups.com">zope@yahoogroups.com</A>, Sorin =
Marti &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mas@s">mas@s</A>...&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; Hi all,<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt; I=20
want to upload files to the filesystem on my server (not into zope's =
<BR>&gt;=20
Data.fs)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; With &lt;input type=3D"file" name=3D"file"&gt; =
I get the=20
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external=20
method like this:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; copy =3D os.system('cp %s /tmp'=20
%file.filename)<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; it doesent work because file.filename =
is only=20
the file but not the <BR>&gt; path... (for example test.pdf)<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
How do I get the path?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think you're asking the wrong =
question. I suppose=20
what you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>want to know is how to </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>get the file content. You have to do</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>something like this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>fileContent=3Dcontext.REQUEST.form['file'].read()<BR></FONT></DI=
V>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then,&nbsp;you have to take a look at=20
the&nbsp;localfs&nbsp;dtml </FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>methods&nbsp;to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>see </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>how a file is=20
created in the&nbsp;local file system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Mon Mar 10 19:54:26 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:54:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: File Upload problems
In-Reply-To: <E18sTHd-0003Wm-00@mail.python.org>
References: <E18sTHd-0003Wm-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <b4iqha$51o$1@main.gmane.org>

Mark Evans wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying to upload an image file from a form to an External Method so that it
> can be loaded as a blob into an Oracle database.  I am having difficulty getting
> the file uploaded.
...
> The gist of the error received, is that image is a "
> ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload instance at 1046b04"
> instead of being something I can acutally manipulate.  Why is this and how do I
> access either the file or the URL pointing to the file?

Please read the source... Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py 
defines the FileUpload-Class:

class FileUpload:
     '''\
     File upload objects

     File upload objects are used to represent file-uploaded data.

     File upload objects can be used just like files.

     In addition, they have a 'headers' attribute that is a dictionary
     containing the file-upload headers, and a 'filename' attribute
     containing the name of the uploaded file.
     '''

It's all there you need...

-mj
-- 
Universität Bielefeld - Zentrum für Lehrerbildung
http://www.zfl.uni-bielefeld.de
tlph://+49.0521.106.4234




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 10 20:03:21 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:03:21 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sendmail tag is quoting html
Message-ID: <3E6CEF89.3090909@neurobs.com>

Hi,
I have the following snippet in my standard_error_message:

<dtml-sendmail mailhost="mail_host">
To: aseem@somain.com
From: zope@host.domain.com
Subject: Zope Error: <dtml-var error_type>

Error Type: <dtml-var error_type>
<dtml-var error_tb>
-zope
</dtml-sendmail>


The problem is that the error_tb is sent quoted like in the stuff below.
Any ideas why?? Any workarounds??

TIA
AM
_________________

Error Type: NotFound
Traceback:

<p>Traceback (innermost last):
<ul>

<li>  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 89, in publish</li>

<li>  Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 329, in traverse</li>

<li>  Module ZPublisher.HTTPResponse, line 636, in debugError</li>

</ul>NotFound: &lt;TABLE BORDER="0" WIDTH="100%"&gt;
&lt;TR VALIGN="TOP"&gt;

&lt;TD WIDTH="10%" ALIGN="CENTER"&gt;
&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/TD&gt;

&lt;TD WIDTH="90%"&gt;
  &lt;H2&gt;Site Error&lt;/H2&gt;
  &lt;P&gt;An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
  &lt;/P&gt;
  &lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Debugging Notice&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

  Zope has encountered a problem publishing your object.&lt;p&gt;
Cannot locate object at: http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/dadada
  &lt;HR NOSHADE&gt;

  &lt;P&gt;Troubleshooting Suggestions&lt;/P&gt;

  &lt;UL&gt;
  &lt;LI&gt;The URL may be incorrect.&lt;/LI&gt;
  &lt;LI&gt;The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.&lt;/LI&gt;
  &lt;LI&gt;A resource that this resource relies on may be
      encountering an error.&lt;/LI&gt;
  &lt;/UL&gt;

  &lt;P&gt;For more detailed information about the error, please
  refer to the HTML source for this page.
  &lt;/P&gt;

  &lt;P&gt;If the error persists please contact the site maintainer.
  Thank you for your patience.
  &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;
&lt;/TABLE&gt;
</p>

- zope

__________________

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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar 10 20:04:21 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:04:21 -0600
Subject: [Zope] dynamic form checkbox data
In-Reply-To: <20030310000425.12757.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030310000425.12757.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E6CEFC5.4020204@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I have a form which has (dynamically-generated)
>checkboxes (from database rows).
>
>these are of the form:
><input type=checkbox name="ismember:list:string"
>checked><dtml-var sequence-var-name>
>(some do not default to checked).
>
>When I'm processing the form data, the list contains
>data for only those that are checked (i.e. no list if
>none are checked, a short list if some are checked).
>  
>
That's a tricky issue with web programming in general: a form will only 
report a value for a check box when it is checked, and otherwise will 
ignore it. There are two common ways out:

1) drop the checkbox and use radio buttons (or perhaps some other 
widget), which will guarantee a return value.
1b) add a hidden field for each question, and count an affirmative only 
when you get the hidden field and the interactive checkbox's value.

2) somehow know server-side what your questions would have been and 
compare the returned "affirmative" responses.

Number 2 is more work, but better with regards to security (you can't 
trust users to exclusively use your form) and allows you to keep your 
existing aesthetic (as opposed to #1).

I suppose there's also some monkey business you could do with 
JavaScript, but I don't really care enough to check on that.

       --jcc



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Mon Mar 10 20:17:57 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:17:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <1047278099.2897.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEAECLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Edward Muller wrote:
> I would love a an equivalent :object and :objects flag something like
> this:
>
> <dtml-in "range(item_count)">
>   <input type=text size=30 name="items.desc:objects:Item">
>   <input type=text size=15 name="items.item:objects:Item">
>   <input type=text size=10 name="items.qty:objects:Item">
> </dtml-in>
>
> Where an 'object' (or objects) is created (Python class is instantiated)
> and getter and setter methods for .desc, .item and .qty get called with
> the provided values. For instance the above snippet would create a new
> object called items, which is an instance of class Item. Class Item
> would have get_desc, get_item, get_qty, set_desc, set_item, set_qty
> methods. These would then act as classic getter and setter methods.
>

It would be nice to see some facilities in this direction. I'm far from
fully understanding Zope (I'm at basic ZPT/Scripts/Python level), but maybe
something like having a product called Object which allows to specify
fields, default values, validation rules and error messages.

With an Object called Item one could have validation rules being generated
in Javascript (<tal:replace=Item/rules/> ???). When zope receives the form
data it would validate the data according to Item specification (fields,
rules) and deal with the security concerns pointed by Dylan (missing fields,
wrong types).

Validation rules could be simple logical expressions (from which Javascript
and Python code could be generated) or Python scripts (in this case a
Javascript alternative would have to be provided).

Of course, then some people would want an UML modeling tool to
generate/maintain Objects in Zope.

Is this far fetched for Zope? ;-)

Regards,
Fernando



From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Mon Mar 10 20:17:57 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:17:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
In-Reply-To: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEADCLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Stephen Liu wrote:
> I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort,
> Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.
>

I've used PaperPort quite some years ago and it was very nice application on
functionality and ease of use. I don't think Zope is an alternative to it.
Albeit you can build one with it (cf. sean's post) keep in mind zope is web
oriented, ie. you would have to build an interface based on html.

Are you really looking for a web application? To provide the same ease of
use as PaperPort in a browser would be quite a challenge, IMHO. Someone tell
me I'm wrong... (well I suppose you could combine with Java or
SASH+Javascript but...).

Fernando




From wilson@visi.com  Mon Mar 10 20:28:42 2003
From: wilson@visi.com (Tim Wilson)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:28:42 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Accessing subfolder of Zope using Webdav and Webdrive
Message-ID: <200303101428.42787.wilson@visi.com>

Hi everyone,

I'm experimenting with Webdav access to my Zope using the Webdrive produc=
t.=20
I can access the root of my Zope with no trouble, but I'm not able to=20
include a subfolder in the URL and have it connect. I've tried something=20
like this (and many other combinations) for the URL:

http://mysite.com/subfolder:9080

I want to give access to this subfolder to another person, but I don't wa=
nt=20
her to have access to the root. I've searched the Zope list archives, but=
 I=20
can't find this particular example anywhere.

Is anyone doing this successfully?

-Tim

--=20
Tim Wilson
Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Science teacher, Linux fan, Zope developer, Grad. student, Daddy
mailto:wilson@visi.com | http://qwerk.org/ | public key: 0x8C0F8813



From jens@zope.com  Mon Mar 10 20:34:49 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:34:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Accessing subfolder of Zope using Webdav and Webdrive
In-Reply-To: <200303101428.42787.wilson@visi.com>
Message-ID: <BD59A5CA-5337-11D7-9924-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

try http://mysite.com:9800/subfolder/

jens


On Monday, Mar 10, 2003, at 15:28 US/Eastern, Tim Wilson wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm experimenting with Webdav access to my Zope using the Webdrive 
> product.
> I can access the root of my Zope with no trouble, but I'm not able to
> include a subfolder in the URL and have it connect. I've tried 
> something
> like this (and many other combinations) for the URL:
>
> http://mysite.com/subfolder:9080
>
> I want to give access to this subfolder to another person, but I don't 
> want
> her to have access to the root. I've searched the Zope list archives, 
> but I
> can't find this particular example anywhere.
>
> Is anyone doing this successfully?
>
> -Tim
>
> -- 
> Tim Wilson
> Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
> Science teacher, Linux fan, Zope developer, Grad. student, Daddy
> mailto:wilson@visi.com | http://qwerk.org/ | public key: 0x8C0F8813
>
>
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar 10 20:36:22 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:36:22 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEADCLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEADCLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <3E6CF746.9030607@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Are you really looking for a web application? To provide the same ease of
>use as PaperPort in a browser would be quite a challenge, IMHO. Someone tell
>me I'm wrong... (well I suppose you could combine with Java or
>SASH+Javascript but...).
>  
>
Zope would do fine on the storage/presentation side, with all the CMS 
stuff existing and being built. The input side would either be a PITA 
web form, a standalone client interacting via XML-RPC/HTTP/DAV/ZEO/etc, 
or maybe a XUL application on Mozilla.

I doubt this exists already, but I'm sure you could find someone who 
would love to be paid for a week's worth of making this.

       --jcc



From pavel@md5.ca  Mon Mar 10 20:50:42 2003
From: pavel@md5.ca (Pavel Zaitsev)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:50:42 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml-var calling python script.
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310090214.01e39348@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <20030310100921.GA23916@md5.ca> <5.1.1.6.0.20030310090214.01e39348@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <20030310205042.GA28021@md5.ca>

Dylan Reinhardt(zope@dylanreinhardt.com)@Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:03:38AM -0800:
> >I have a python script(pyfoo) that expects 2 parameters foo1 and foo2.
> >I'd like to invoke the script from a dtml code.
> <dtml-var "pyfoo(foo1, foo2)">

Actually what I want the python script to do is, to inherit variables from
REQUEST, like it does when invoked directly from the web. If I call my python
script directly, then those variables are not *inhereted* from DTML REQUEST
object. I just wrote some more test cases, I guess variables that are not specified
in *a* method definition, would not be imported into namespace...
I guess I'd have to import all vars from REQUEST object by hand, but it seems kinda
hackerish.
any thoughts?
p

-- 
Create like god, rule like a king, work like a slave.


From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 10 20:50:46 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:50:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D57D@desi2>

I've never used PaperPort, but you are likely not wrong.  The likely
solution is to build a fat-client application using ZEO or XML-RPC and use
Zope as a backend, which obviously would require a great deal of work.
Alternately, if a web-based interface and for working with documents
post-scan is okay, I assume you could write scripts to control your scanning
software for batching document scan+upload, and upload this content into a
CMF site, for example, assuming your Zope instance can interface with yet
more component automation to talk to your OCR software (loaded on the Zope
server?) for metadata extraction.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Martins [mailto:fmartins@hetnet.nl]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Stephen Liu; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job


Stephen Liu wrote:
> I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort,
> Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.
>

I've used PaperPort quite some years ago and it was very nice application on
functionality and ease of use. I don't think Zope is an alternative to it.
Albeit you can build one with it (cf. sean's post) keep in mind zope is web
oriented, ie. you would have to build an interface based on html.

Are you really looking for a web application? To provide the same ease of
use as PaperPort in a browser would be quite a challenge, IMHO. Someone tell
me I'm wrong... (well I suppose you could combine with Java or
SASH+Javascript but...).

Fernando



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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 10 21:11:14 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:11:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dtml-var calling python script.
In-Reply-To: <20030310205042.GA28021@md5.ca>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310090214.01e39348@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <20030310100921.GA23916@md5.ca>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030310090214.01e39348@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030310130234.01e4dd68@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 12:50 PM 3/10/2003, Pavel Zaitsev wrote:
>Dylan Reinhardt(zope@dylanreinhardt.com)@Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:03:38AM 
>-0800:
> > >I have a python script(pyfoo) that expects 2 parameters foo1 and foo2.
> > >I'd like to invoke the script from a dtml code.
> > <dtml-var "pyfoo(foo1, foo2)">
>
>Actually what I want the python script to do is, to inherit variables from
>REQUEST, like it does when invoked directly from the web.

Ah.  In that case, you can get them like this:

context.REQUEST['foo1']

when you call pyfoo as:

<dtml-var pyfoo>

and call dtmlfoo as:

dtmlfoo?foo1=something

Naturally, you'll want to do some exception handling, etc.  But that's the 
basic technique.

HTH,

Dylan



From volker.wend@efgbsh.de  Mon Mar 10 21:21:02 2003
From: volker.wend@efgbsh.de (volker.wend@efgbsh.de)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:21:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] analyze Logfile
Message-ID: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D30@kommserver1>

Hello,

has anybody experience with the analog log ile analyzer and zope? I would
appreciate if someone could sent me the LOG FORMAT String, I need to use for
analog.

Thanks,
Volker


From baiewola@netscape.net  Mon Mar 10 21:25:28 2003
From: baiewola@netscape.net (baiewola@netscape.net)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:25:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
Message-ID: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>

Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?

Many thanks.

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From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Mon Mar 10 21:33:18 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:33:18 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
Message-ID: <20030310153318.E18421@qcc.sk.ca>

Hi,

I've a question regarding security in Zope Product classes for Zope
2.6.1.  I'm hoping that someone has some experience/suggestions for 
implementing Zope scurity within a product's class.

I need to provide secure access to specific methods and attributes
(e.g. meta_type) for a class within my Zope product.  I have a set of
specific roles that I need to create when an instance of my product is
created along with the default roles of 'Manager' and 'Owner'.  I am
declaring this set of roles by assigning them to the __roles__
attribute:

__ac_roles__= ( 'Anonymous', 'Authenticated', 'Manager', 
                'Owner', 'Editor' )

I've noted two different methods for declaring security in a class.

The first is to use __ac_permissions__ to declare a tuple of tuples
that declares a permission name, a tuple of method names, and a list
of roles.  For example:

__ac_permissions__ = ( ('View', ('manage', 'manage_menu'), 
                       ['Manager', 'Editor']) )

The second method, which I believe to be the most recent, is to:

1. Declare the security object:
    security = AccessControl.ClassSecurityInfo()

2. Set the default security access to 'deny':
    security.setDefaultAccess('deny')

3. Declare each permission:
    security.setPermissionDefault( 'View', 
                                   ['Authenticated', 'Manager',
								    'Editor'])

4. Assert that each method or subobject is protected by a particular
permission:
    security.declareProtected( 'View', 'manage_menu')

5. Initialize the the class' security:
    InitializeClass(MyClass)

The first method seems to work, although I have not tested to ensure
that all of the methods inherited from the parent classes are
protected.  I have a sneaking suspicion that this is an older
mechanism for Zope security.

The second method seems to be the newest and most logical approach.
The being exception that the default security access to 'deny' does
not permit me to access attributes from my class that are basic Python
types such as strings (e.g. meta_type from a DTML Method).  I could
declare the default security access to 'allow', but that seems
inherently dangerous from a security standpoint.

Thanks,
Michael
-- 
Michael R. Schwab



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 10 21:36:26 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:36:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <367315902.1047335786@[192.168.0.2]>

This is a question of the presentation backend(means your
browser) and has nothing to do with Zope.

-aj

--On Montag, 10. M=E4rz 2003 16:25 -0500 baiewola@netscape.net wrote:

> Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages
> that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
>
> Many thanks.
>
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 10 21:37:12 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:37:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] analyze Logfile
In-Reply-To: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D30@kommserver1>
References: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D30@kommserver1>
Message-ID: <367362178.1047335832@[192.168.0.2]>

What is the problem with analog? Zope writes a  fully compliant
log file.

-aj

--On Montag, 10. M=E4rz 2003 22:21 +0100 volker.wend@efgbsh.de wrote:

> Hello,
>
> has anybody experience with the analog log ile analyzer and zope? I would
> appreciate if someone could sent me the LOG FORMAT String, I need to use
> for analog.
>
> Thanks,
> Volker
>
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From chrism@zope.com  Mon Mar 10 21:41:48 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 16:41:48 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Proposed installation changes for review
Message-ID: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>

Hi folks,

An effort to improve Zope 2 installation, startup, and configuration for
Zope 2.7 has been ongoing for some time now (see
http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/InstallationAndConfiguration).  
The effort has reached a point where we believe it is reasonable to
merge its fruits to the Zope trunk.  Before doing so, however, we want
to gather input from people who care deeply about Zope configuration and
installation; particularly those who have significant investments in the
existing behaviors of Zope 2 configuration and installation.  A bunch of
stuff is changed (most notably Zope no longer uses environment variables
as configuration, and instead defers to command-line arguments and
config file values).

What follows is a summary of changes, a walk-through of a Zope 2
installation under this regime, and a list of the configuration-file
changeable parameters exposed by the current Zope configuration schema.

Please provide your feedback before this Friday, March 14.  If possible,
check out and try the new software.  If there are showstopper issues for
a lot of people, we will consider not performing the merge directly
after that date.  Otherwise, the merge will be performed at any time
after the 14th.

Thanks!

- C

-----
Major changes in Zope 2.7
=========================

Zope 2.7 will contain a number of changes related to the build process
and configuration.  The scripts used to start Zope will also be
substantially changed.  The implementation of these changes is not yet
complete, but a substantial portion has been done and is expected to
be merged into the Zope 2 trunk in the near future.

The exact schedule for merging these changes has not been determined;
additional notice will be provided.  These changes are substantially
based on efforts by Chris McDonough on the "chrism-install-branch".

Major changes
-------------

The following are the most important and user-visible changes compared
to Zope 2.6 and the current CVS HEAD:

- Configuration is normally done by editing a config file instead of
  passing command line options.  The configuration file is handled by
  the ZConfig package.

- Environment variables are no longer used for configuration.

- Building and installing the software have become more clearly
  distinct; the installation can be separate from the build.

- Zope 2.7 uses the "instance home" model in the normal case: a script
  in the installed software is used to create new "instances" of Zope.
  Each instance is defined by a directory tree containing
  configuration, scripts, and data.  (For convenience, the instance
  and the installation can be located in the same directory, and the
  build area may be used in lieu of an installation if desired.)

- The z2.py, start, and stop scripts have been replaced by the runzope
  and zopectl scripts.

- The runzope/zopectl scripts do not accept the same command-line
  arguments as z2.py used to accept.

- The wo_pcgi.py script used to build Zope without PCGI support has
  been replaced by the common Unix build sequence of configure, make.

- The pcgi/ directory and the w_pcgi.py script have been removed from
  the top of the source tree.  The pcgi/ directory may be made
  available as a separate distribution.  (The application server still
  has support to allow connections from a PCGI-capable Web server.)

- The ZServer package has been moved from the top of the source tree
  into the lib/python/ directory.


Getting the code today
----------------------

The implementation lives in the "new-install-branch", which is a
"partial" branch rather than a complete branch: only the files and
directories which need to be changed have been placed on the branch;
all other files are used from the CVS HEAD.  The current state of this
code can be checked out from CVS using the command:

    cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.zope.org:/cvs-repository co \
        -r new-install-branch -f Zope

The installation instructions in doc/INSTALL.txt has been updated on
the branch; that file provides detailed information on creating an
installation and instance.  (A copy has been attached for convenience.)

A sample installation/startup runthrough
---------------------------------------

The below is the output from a sample install session.  During this
session, we install the Zope software to /tmp/zopehome and install an
instance home to /tmp/insthome.

  [chrism@james software]$ cd NewInstallBranch/
  [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ ./configure --prefix=/tmp/zopehome

  Configuring Zope installation

  Testing for an acceptable Python interpreter...

    Python version 2.1.3 found at /home/chrism/bin/python
    Python version 2.1.3 found at /home/chrism/bin/python2.1
    Python version 2.2.2 found at /home/chrism/bin/python2.2

    The optimimum Python version (2.2.2) was found at
/home/chrism/bin/python2.2.

    - Zope top-level binary directory will be /tmp/zopehome.
    - Makefile written.

    Next, run make.

  [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ make
  "/home/chrism/bin/python2.2" inst/setup.py -q build_ext -i
  <... compilation output elided ...>

  Zope built. Next, do 'make install' (or 'make instance'
  to run a Zope instance directly from the build directory).

  [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ make install
  <... installation output elided ...>

  Zope binaries installed successfully.
  Now run '/tmp/zopehome/bin/mkzopeinstance'

  [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ /tmp/zopehome/bin/mkzopeinstance
  mkzopeinstance requires exactly one argument

  mkzopeinstance:  Create a Zope instance home.

  usage:  mkzopeinstance [options] directory

  Options:

  -h/--help -- print this help text
  -u/--user NAME:PASSWORD -- set the user name and password of the
initial user

  [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ /tmp/zopehome/bin/mkzopeinstance \
      --user=admin:123 /tmp/inst
  [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ cd /tmp/inst/
  [chrism@james inst]$ ls
  bin  etc  Extensions  import  inituser  log  Products  README.txt  var
  [chrism@james inst]$ bin/zopectl start
  . daemon process started, pid=2947
  [chrism@james inst]$ bin/zopectl stop
  . daemon process stopped

Changing the configuration via the config file
----------------------------------------------

The Zope configuration file uses the ZConfig API and file format.  See
the ZConfig documentation PDF at
http://cvs.zope.org/Packages/ZConfig/doc/zconfig.pdf for more
information.

The default Zope configuration file will live in the instance_home's
/etc directory and will be named 'zope.conf'.  The Zope configuration
file allows you to change the following configuration variables:

  instance home
  client home
  debug mode
  effective user
  production installation (on/off)
  locale
  number of zserver threads
  the python "check interval" (thread switch timing)
  zserver read only mode
  pid file name
  lock file name
  structured text header level
  publisher profile file (debugging)
  cgi environment
  dns server (hostname resolving in logfiles)
  ip address (for zserver bindings)
  http realm
  automatic quotation of dtml request data
  security manager stack size
  security policy implementation (C, Python)
  skip authentication checking
  skip ownership checking
  max number of session objects
  session "add notify" script path
  session "delete notify" script path
  session timeout minutes
  access rule suppress
  site root suppression
  database quota size
  read only database
  zeo client name
  logging (access, event, debug, filenames, to syslog, etc).
  network servers (http, dav, ftp, monitor, etc)
  databases (storages, database classes, etc.)




From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar 10 21:39:31 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:39:31 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
In-Reply-To: <20030310153318.E18421@qcc.sk.ca>
References: <20030310153318.E18421@qcc.sk.ca>
Message-ID: <20030310213931.GB13052@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:33:18PM -0600, Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> I've noted two different methods for declaring security in a class.
(snip)
> The second method, which I believe to be the most recent,

that's correct.


> The second method seems to be the newest and most logical approach.
> The being exception that the default security access to 'deny' does
> not permit me to access attributes from my class that are basic Python
> types such as strings (e.g. meta_type from a DTML Method).  I could
> declare the default security access to 'allow', but that seems
> inherently dangerous from a security standpoint.

I think what you're looking for is
__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1

or, just make declarations on specific attributes:

security.declarePublic('meta_type')
self.meta_type = "blah"

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar 10 21:58:49 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:58:49 -0600
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <3E6D0A99.6000803@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
>  
>
That does this not lie in the domain of Zope, but rather with the 
client. Not that I'm blowing off the question: I have no knowledge of 
anything that does this.

I doubt you'll find anything of the sort in the free software world. 
Maybe PDF or something from Mircosoft has this sort of restrictive 
measure built-in.

       --jcc



From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Mon Mar 10 22:00:14 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:00:14 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
In-Reply-To: <20030310213931.GB13052@slinkp.com>
References: <20030310153318.E18421@qcc.sk.ca> <20030310213931.GB13052@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <3E6D0AEE.4080704@icantbelieveididthat.com>

Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:33:18PM -0600, Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> 
>>I've noted two different methods for declaring security in a class.
> 
> (snip)
> 
>>The second method, which I believe to be the most recent,
> 
> 
> that's correct.
> 
>>The second method seems to be the newest and most logical approach.
>>The being exception that the default security access to 'deny' does
>>not permit me to access attributes from my class that are basic Python
>>types such as strings (e.g. meta_type from a DTML Method).  I could
>>declare the default security access to 'allow', but that seems
>>inherently dangerous from a security standpoint.
> 
> I think what you're looking for is
> __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1

Hmmm...  Not quite what I'm looking for.  If my class contains mutable 
attributes such as a list, this could cause a potential security risk.

> or, just make declarations on specific attributes:
> 
> security.declarePublic('meta_type')
> self.meta_type = "blah"

I have attempted this previously.  Since 'meta_type' is a Python string 
and not a method, security.declarePublic('meta_type') does not set 
'meta_type' to be public.

It results in:

Error Type: Unauthorized
Error Value: You are not allowed to access meta_type in this context
--
Michael R. Schwab



From stefan@epy.co.at  Mon Mar 10 22:01:31 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:01:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] assignment to form records
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEAECLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFAEAECLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <418036954.1047337291@[172.16.8.4]>

The Formulator product may help you.
<http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/Formulator>

Stefan


--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From phil@harris-family.info  Mon Mar 10 22:04:13 2003
From: phil@harris-family.info (Phil Harris)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:04:13 -0000
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <oprlt99bm6trbj4h@smtp.freeserve.com>

How about if I copy the page and paste it into Word or similar?

How do you intend to stop that?

Bottom line is that there is no guaranteed way to stop someone priting a 
page.

This also has nothing to do with Zope btw.

Phil

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:25:28 -0500, <baiewola@netscape.net> wrote:

> Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages 
> that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
>
> Many thanks.
>
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From ruger@acsnv.com  Mon Mar 10 22:03:14 2003
From: ruger@acsnv.com (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 14:03:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <3E6D0A99.6000803@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
 <3E6D0A99.6000803@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <1047333795.1551.6.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

Even if you could get the 'client' browser to keep them from viewing
source, saving the page, or printing, they could just take a screen
capture with an image program if they wanted the info bad enough.

Rick


On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 13:58, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> >
> >
> >Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
> >  
> >
> That does this not lie in the domain of Zope, but rather with the 
> client. Not that I'm blowing off the question: I have no knowledge of 
> anything that does this.
> 
> I doubt you'll find anything of the sort in the free software world. 
> Maybe PDF or something from Mircosoft has this sort of restrictive 
> measure built-in.
> 
>        --jcc
> 
> 
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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 10 22:21:44 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:21:44 -0800
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D57E@desi2>

Uh, you can't do this.  The best you can do is open up an html page in a new
window without a menu, but someone smart enough is just going to right-click
and print.

You can likely output print-restricted PDF output (voluntarily obeyed by
acrobat reader), but this would likely require you to install Adobe SDKs on
your server, and use html2pdf or similar to render pages into PDF to deliver
them.  In other words, there is no easy answer, and even at that, you can't
prevent people from saving those PDFs and emailing them half-way across the
world.

You need to create a custom application that uses time-bombed encryption and
a proprietary viewer of your own devising.   The reason most
digital-rights-management applications fail miserably is because you can't
really prevent the copying of bits no matter how hard you try.  Sorry.

Sean

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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:25 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?


Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages that
I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?

Many thanks.

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From ruger@comnett.net  Mon Mar 10 22:16:34 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 14:16:34 -0800
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <3E6D0A99.6000803@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
 <3E6D0A99.6000803@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <1047334594.1551.9.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

Even if you could disable printing, viewing source, saving the page,
etc. on the 'client' or browser, somebody could simply grab a screen
capture if the wanted it THAT bad.

Rick


On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 13:58, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> >
> >
> >Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
> >  
> >
> That does this not lie in the domain of Zope, but rather with the 
> client. Not that I'm blowing off the question: I have no knowledge of 
> anything that does this.
> 
> I doubt you'll find anything of the sort in the free software world. 
> Maybe PDF or something from Mircosoft has this sort of restrictive 
> measure built-in.
> 
>        --jcc
> 
> 
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From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:28:47 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:28:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] dtml-var calling python script.
In-Reply-To: <20030310100921.GA23916@md5.ca>
References: <20030310100921.GA23916@md5.ca>
Message-ID: <15981.911.40186.199156@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Pavel Zaitsev wrote at 2003-3-10 02:09 -0800:
 > I have a python script(pyfoo) that expects 2 parameters foo1 and foo2.
 > I'd like to invoke the script from a dtml code. 
 > 
 > So dtmlfoo is:
 > 
 > -----------------------------------
 > <dtml-var pyfoo>

When it expects parameters you should pass them!

     <dtml-var expr="pyfoo(arg1,arg2)">


The alternative (I do not recommend it!) would be to bind
the DTML namespace.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:27:12 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:27:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to get the path?
In-Reply-To: <3E6C3F00.4070807@semafor.ch>
References: <3E6C3F00.4070807@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <15981.816.737245.158894@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Sorin Marti wrote at 2003-3-10 08:30 +0100:
 > I want to upload files to the filesystem on my server (not into zope's 
 > Data.fs)
 > 
 > With <input type="file" name="file"> I get the filename...right?

First of all, you get the file as a "ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload"
instance.
Such an instance behaves like a file (you have the typical
Python file operations: "read", "seek", "tell", ...).
In addition, they have additional attributes which inform
about the HTTP context: "filename" (the name of the file
uploaded) and "headers" (maybe similar -- view the source!)
with the MIME headers associated with this file.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:21:13 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:21:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] LDAPUserFolder 1.2b2 + Zope 2.6.1 + Windows
In-Reply-To: <b4h031$sig$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b4h031$sig$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <15981.457.250671.792397@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Pawel Lewicki wrote at 2003-3-10 04:17 +0100:
 > I try to install the following product and I get the error message:
 > 
 >  import ldap
 > ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initldap)
 > 
 > Does anyone know what it means?

Seems you have an "ldap" dll which does not define the
python-ldap adapter: it lacks the initialization function.
Any Python extension dll must define an initialization function.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:33:14 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:33:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
In-Reply-To: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18sNuZ-0001Km-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <15981.1178.591160.682983@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Michael Long wrote at 2003-3-10 09:05 -0500:
 > Please forgive me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. I am writting an
 > application that will be capturing financial information. If I use the
 > ZODB and create expense and income objects to capture this information
 > there will over a 1000 objects added a week. I will be tracking history,
 > archiving data, etc. Is Zope the right tool for this type of application
 > or am I better off creating the objects that this data is associated
 > (companies, people, properties, etc) within the ZODB and using a
 > relational database such as PostgreSQL to track the higher volume
 > financial data.

If I have lots of highly structured data, I would go for
a relational database and not store them in the ZODB.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:11:46 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:11:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] it there a cvs in zope?
In-Reply-To: <20030309031930.616.qmail@web15213.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030309031930.616.qmail@web15213.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15980.65426.83458.853947@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chen Fu wrote at 2003-3-9 11:19 +0800:
 > I am working in a research institute. we use cvs to
 > organize the source code and zope to manage papers.
 > I wonder if there a toolkit can merge cvs into zope
 > interface, seems they are all file system. Is it
 > possible? any suggestion?

You may have a look at CVSFolder.

All integration approaches has still severe limitations.

This may become better with Shane's Adaptable Storage techniques.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:16:51 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:16:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] dynamic form checkbox data
In-Reply-To: <20030310000425.12757.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030310000425.12757.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15981.195.202679.924599@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Rua Haszard Morris wrote at 2003-3-10 13:04 +1300:
 > I have a form which has (dynamically-generated)
 > checkboxes (from database rows).
 > 
 > these are of the form:
 > <input type=checkbox name="ismember:list:string"
 > checked><dtml-var sequence-var-name>
 > (some do not default to checked).
 > 
 > When I'm processing the form data, the list contains
 > data for only those that are checked (i.e. no list if
 > none are checked, a short list if some are checked).
 > 
 > How can I generate a list of boolean values
 > representing the user's selections?  I need to use the
 > boolean value in a dtml-if in the sql that processes
 > the form data.

Say: "allCheckboxValues" is the sequence of checkbox values (they
must have different values such that you are able to distinguish
the checkboxes). You build the sequence of booleans in
"isCheckboxSelectedList".
The code looks somehow like:

    isCheckboxSelectedList= []
    for checkboxValue in allCheckboxValues:
      isCheckboxSelectedList.append(checkboxValue in ismember)


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:19:39 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:19:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to list subfolders of any folder in DTML?
In-Reply-To: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C44428C@ZEUS.Intra.net>
References: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C44428C@ZEUS.Intra.net>
Message-ID: <15981.363.859926.575739@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Michael Fox wrote at 2003-3-10 13:20 +1100:
 > ...
 > I have a DTML Method in my Folder A named "listSubfolders" which contains the following code:
 > 
 > <dtml-in "objectItems(['Folder'])" sort="id" skip_unauthorized>
 >   <li><a href="&dtml-absolute_url;"><dtml-var title_or_id></a></li>
 > </dtml-in>
 > 
 > I want the ability to call this object in any one index_html (DTML Document) within any one folder, to create some sort of navigation of it's subfolders. eg.

Why must your "index_html" be a DTML Document? Make it 
a DTML Method and you can use "listSubfolders" as you want.

In general, forget about DTML Document unless you really
know why you want to use it.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:30:11 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:30:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs
In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027744@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027744@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
Message-ID: <15981.995.152655.176478@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ria Marinussen wrote at 2003-3-10 12:46 +0100:
 > This weekend my Zope server stopped serving pages.
 >  
 > The last entry in my Z2.log file was:
 > 218.27.99.174 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:02:08:40 +0200] "CONNECT
 > 65.54.166.99:25 HTTP/1.1" 404 264 "" ""

This request completed normally (with an 404 error indication).

The following request may have killed your Zope.

Use the "-M" logging (--> archives) to determine requests
causing Zope to crash.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:10:33 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:10:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Debugging Zope Products
In-Reply-To: <20030309191256.45575.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030309170009.22844.36940.Mailman@mail.python.org>
 <20030309191256.45575.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15980.65353.927465.849088@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Derek Basch wrote at 2003-3-9 11:12 -0800:
 > ....
 > There is this paragraph:
 > 
 > "So, for the sake our example, let's say that you have
 > a News object which is defined in a Zope Product
 > called ZopeNews, and is located in the
 > lib/python/Products/ZopeNews directory. The class that
 > defines the News instance is also called News, and is
 > defined in the News.py module in your product."
 > 
 > I do not understand what the author means by "News
 > object"?
 
He probably used sloppy terminology:

   Think you want to manage "News" objects in your site.

   You define a class for them (such that they become instances
   of this class). You call them "News" (what else).

   Such classes usually live in a product. A product
   is represented as a subfolder of the (a, when you
   are using INSTANCE_HOME or other magic environment variables)
   "Products" folder. You put your "News" class into
   a product called "ZopeNews".

Nothing happened up to now: you got only a description
of the setup: "News" objects which are instances of
the "News" class which is defined in the "ZopeNews" product...

 > What exactly is a News object and how was it
 > defined? Is it a class that was registered with the
 > registrar object during product initialization?

Yes.

 > What would really help me is a tutorial using a real
 > Zope product rather than a fake one like in the
 > Developers Guide. Can anyone clear my confusion?

You have Zope installed?

  Look at its "Products" folder. You find several dozens
  of real life examples ;-)
  Use a modern product, e.g. PageTemplates, to learn how to
  do product definition and registration. Old
  products do it differently and in an less obvious way.

  Read the ZDG in parallel that you understand what you see...


Dieter


From brendan@paymentonline.com  Mon Mar 10 22:42:17 2003
From: brendan@paymentonline.com (Brendan Crosser-McGay)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:42:17 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Pagination
Message-ID: <LNEIKPJPELGHFIFPNCLLMENCCEAA.brendan@paymentonline.com>

I'm not sure where to start here, and I'm kind of new to Zope here, but I
thought I would ask.  How do most ZSQL generated lists get paginated?  I
haven't seen hardly anything pointing to a way of doing this.  Maybe I'm
just looking in the wrong area.  I would like to know how to display a list
of items with a page break that displays page numbers, something similar to
this:
 (Prev -  1  -  2  -  3  -  Next)

I would appreciate any input on how someone else achieved this.  Thanks :)
-Brendan




From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar 10 23:07:23 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:07:23 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com>

A few questions / concerns listed below, otherwise it looks
fine to me...

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
>   debug mode

does this still toggle a whole bunch of things?

>   production installation (on/off)

what's this mean?

>   network servers (http, dav, ftp, monitor, etc)

is this where you set the ports?

One thing I didn't see in your list is a way to extend the products
path (currently I do that with $PRODUCTS_PATH).  We need that.

One more question: Does "zopectl.py" always detach from the terminal
(booo) or not (yay) ?  
Or does it behave like z2.py and this depends on "debug mode" (booo) ?


-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com



From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 10 21:23:58 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:23:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZPT newbie Q
In-Reply-To: <200303092346.43301.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
References: <200303052138.58030.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
 <3E680283.3020704@d-designz.co.nz>
 <200303092346.43301.gcw-python@rezidew.net>
Message-ID: <15981.622.516723.988196@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

G. Clifford Williams wrote at 2003-3-9 23:46 -0600:
 > 
 > Where does one find a list of all of the attributes and properties that can be 
 > called/referenced from TAL statements?

Someone else told you where to find information about build in functions.

Zope is an object oriented system. Most objects provide methods
which can be used in programs.

You can find information about such methods by means of
"DocFinder". See

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>

"DocFinderEveryWhere" might help you, too.


Dieter


From hpinson@indepthl.com  Mon Mar 10 23:30:53 2003
From: hpinson@indepthl.com (hpinson@indepthl.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:30:53 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <20030310231311.11614.49904.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <3E6CBDBD.15422.BE7EE1@localhost>

> How big is the file? Is it possible that you're just waiting for it > to upload?

The file is 4.9 mb, over a fast DSL connection.  I've tried importing 
several times now in several browsers, each with the same results.  
I've let the process run for over 20 minutes.  Zope just appears to 
hang when importing this MP3 file.

Harlow Pinson
Indepth Learning
Email: hpinson@indepthl.com 
Web: http://www.indepthl.com
Voice: 505-994-2135
FAX: 208-475-7678



From slupzz@libero.it  Mon Mar 10 23:35:43 2003
From: slupzz@libero.it (slupzz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:35:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Setuid
In-Reply-To: <20030311001236.43673e0d.slupzz@libero.it>
References: <20030311001236.43673e0d.slupzz@libero.it>
Message-ID: <20030311003543.08efaed7.slupzz@libero.it>

Blank to all I have installed zope-2.6.0_1 on freebsd 4,7 stable but I have of the problems to make to start it. 
 
 If launch zope from root with 
 
 
 su-2.05b# ./start
  I receive this error SystemExit: A user was not specified to setuid to; fix this to start as root (see doc/SETUID.txt)
 
 I have tried also always launch it with l option - u from root 
 
 su-2.05b# ./start -u slupz
 
 SystemExit: /usr/local/www/Zope/var is not owned by root, fix this to start as root (see doc/SETUID.txt)
 
 Someone puo gives to me one aid hand? Thanks to all. 
Excused for my English. 


From zope@toenjes.com  Mon Mar 10 23:53:42 2003
From: zope@toenjes.com (Trevor Toenjes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:53:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Pagination
In-Reply-To: <LNEIKPJPELGHFIFPNCLLMENCCEAA.brendan@paymentonline.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBLDPBKLOKNHPAEECGGECKHJAA.zope@toenjes.com>

It's called batching in Zope.  Search on batch and you will find many
things.
The batch size (or page size) is the number of objects(or records) displayed
per page.

Here is a sample.
Modify Randolpho's script for ZSQL.
http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1019946889

Cheers,
-Trevor

> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of
> Brendan Crosser-McGay
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 5:42 PM
> To: Zope Mailing List
> Subject: [Zope] Pagination
>
>
> I'm not sure where to start here, and I'm kind of new to Zope here, but I
> thought I would ask.  How do most ZSQL generated lists get paginated?  I
> haven't seen hardly anything pointing to a way of doing this.  Maybe I'm
> just looking in the wrong area.  I would like to know how to
> display a list
> of items with a page break that displays page numbers, something
> similar to
> this:
>  (Prev -  1  -  2  -  3  -  Next)
>
> I would appreciate any input on how someone else achieved this.  Thanks :)
> -Brendan
>
>
>
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 00:02:08 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 18:02:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303102344360.19920-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303102344360.19920-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <1047340928.28858.179.camel@localhost.localdomain>

urlencode takes a dictionary of params/values like this:

{
'param1' : 'value1',
'param2' : 'value2'
}

It cleans up spaces. I am using it for credit card processing and that
includes spaces in addresses, names and the like.

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 01:46, Ed Colmar wrote:
> Thanks!
> 
> urlencode does the cleaning up of spaces and illegal characters?  What
> format does it expect?  Just a string?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> -ed-
> 
> 
> On 6 Mar 2003, Edward Muller wrote:
> 
> > I use something like the following to do the exact a same thing...
> >
> > import string, urllib
> > from M2Crypto import m2urllib
> > encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
> > url = m2urllib.FancyURLopener()
> > u =url.open('https://secure.post/location',encodedParams)
> > data = u.read()
> >
> > In an external method ... I use m2crypto because of good SSL support ...
> > You could probably use the regular httplib if you don't need SSL
> > support.
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:12, Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > Hi fellow zope hackers!
> > >
> > > I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
> > > zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
> > > to post form data to a master server.
> > >
> > > Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
> > > data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
> > >
> > > So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
> > > the return data.  Is this the best way?
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help!
> > >
> > > -ed-
> >
-- 
Edward Muller

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Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
Custom Programming - Network Service & Support

Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 00:17:06 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:17:06 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Setuid
In-Reply-To: <20030311003543.08efaed7.slupzz@libero.it>
References: <20030311001236.43673e0d.slupzz@libero.it> <20030311003543.08efaed7.slupzz@libero.it>
Message-ID: <3E6D2B02.9090107@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Blank to all I have installed zope-2.6.0_1 on freebsd 4,7 stable but I have of the problems to make to start it. 
> 
> If launch zope from root with 
> 
> 
> su-2.05b# ./start
>  I receive this error SystemExit: A user was not specified to setuid to; fix this to start as root (see doc/SETUID.txt)
> 
> I have tried also always launch it with l option - u from root 
> 
> su-2.05b# ./start -u slupz
> 
> SystemExit: /usr/local/www/Zope/var is not owned by root, fix this to start as root (see doc/SETUID.txt)
> 
> Someone puo gives to me one aid hand? Thanks to all. 
>Excused for my English. 
>
To run Zope on port 80 on various UNIX-types, it needs to start as root 
and drop to a normal user. That user is defined in the -u parameter, 
which you are doing. There are also other things you need to do:

make your var directory owned by root and set the "sticky bit"

All this is explained in docs/SETUID.txt

You could also let it run on an unpriveledged port (like 8080) and start 
it as a normal user.

          --jcc




From ed@greengraphics.net  Tue Mar 11 08:20:52 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:20:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <1047340928.28858.179.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303110016040.19920-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Hey again

So I'm close to a solution here...  Thanks for the help everybody!

How did you get the initial form data into your params variable?  I see
that I can use the urllib.quote() method as well for individual values...

-ed-



On 10 Mar 2003, Edward Muller wrote:

> urlencode takes a dictionary of params/values like this:
>
> {
> 'param1' : 'value1',
> 'param2' : 'value2'
> }
>
> It cleans up spaces. I am using it for credit card processing and that
> includes spaces in addresses, names and the like.
>
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 01:46, Ed Colmar wrote:
> > Thanks!
> >
> > urlencode does the cleaning up of spaces and illegal characters?  What
> > format does it expect?  Just a string?
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > -ed-
> >
> >
> > On 6 Mar 2003, Edward Muller wrote:
> >
> > > I use something like the following to do the exact a same thing...
> > >
> > > import string, urllib
> > > from M2Crypto import m2urllib
> > > encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
> > > url = m2urllib.FancyURLopener()
> > > u =url.open('https://secure.post/location',encodedParams)
> > > data = u.read()
> > >
> > > In an external method ... I use m2crypto because of good SSL support ...
> > > You could probably use the regular httplib if you don't need SSL
> > > support.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:12, Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > > Hi fellow zope hackers!
> > > >
> > > > I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
> > > > zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
> > > > to post form data to a master server.
> > > >
> > > > Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
> > > > data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
> > > >
> > > > So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
> > > > the return data.  Is this the best way?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > >
> > > > -ed-
> > >
>

-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000



From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 00:22:12 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 18:22:12 -0600
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303110016040.19920-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303110016040.19920-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <1047342132.20063.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

For me the params were passed into the external method like so...

def do_the_thing(params):
  .....


This was called from a python script like so ...

context.do_the_thing( {
			'param1' : 'value1',
			'param2' : 'value2'
		})

The original value came from a REQUEST object....

I'd actually like to turn this into a mini product at some point :-).

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 02:20, Ed Colmar wrote:
> Hey again
> 
> So I'm close to a solution here...  Thanks for the help everybody!
> 
> How did you get the initial form data into your params variable?  I see
> that I can use the urllib.quote() method as well for individual values...
> 
> -ed-
> 
> 
> 
> On 10 Mar 2003, Edward Muller wrote:
> 
> > urlencode takes a dictionary of params/values like this:
> >
> > {
> > 'param1' : 'value1',
> > 'param2' : 'value2'
> > }
> >
> > It cleans up spaces. I am using it for credit card processing and that
> > includes spaces in addresses, names and the like.
> >
> > On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 01:46, Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > urlencode does the cleaning up of spaces and illegal characters?  What
> > > format does it expect?  Just a string?
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > -ed-
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6 Mar 2003, Edward Muller wrote:
> > >
> > > > I use something like the following to do the exact a same thing...
> > > >
> > > > import string, urllib
> > > > from M2Crypto import m2urllib
> > > > encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
> > > > url = m2urllib.FancyURLopener()
> > > > u =url.open('https://secure.post/location',encodedParams)
> > > > data = u.read()
> > > >
> > > > In an external method ... I use m2crypto because of good SSL support ...
> > > > You could probably use the regular httplib if you don't need SSL
> > > > support.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 19:12, Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > > > Hi fellow zope hackers!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm building a site for someone who wants to have the entire site within
> > > > > zope, to connect to dbs, etc...  But they use a service that requires them
> > > > > to post form data to a master server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there an easy way (in dtml or python) to do this without seeing the
> > > > > data transfer or ending up at th other server's pages?
> > > > >
> > > > > So far I've considered making an external method that uses lynx and dumps
> > > > > the return data.  Is this the best way?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the help!
> > > > >
> > > > > -ed-
> > > >
> >
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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 11 00:51:28 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:51:28 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net>

> - Environment variables are no longer used for configuration.

I'll say it one more time.

The roadmap[1] states under the "Simplifying the Zope experience"
section:

    * simple tasks should be simple!

Now, code required to extract a value from the environment:

import os
try: value = sanitize(os.environ.get("SOMETHING", default))
except Unsanitary:
   ...cope...

# where 'sanitize' is in reference to any conversion procedures required
# prior to the use of 'value' by program code

Pretty simple.  Enter ZConfig:
$ du -sk ZConfig
374     ZConfig

374k of work devoted to replacing os.environ.get and its sanitizing
code, and the result is a XML config file.  I'm not saying this all
for naught, but really, it should give you pause.  Just how much have
you really simplified configuration by doing this?

Personally I think the problem of Zope's configuration hassles has
been mis-identified.  ZConfig cleans up and centralizes a maze of
badly strewn out configuration code.  It will extend the lifetime of
the Über-server concept ZServer employs.  It does nothing to prevent
the same mess from happening again, down the road.  I believe a more
lasting approach is to seperate the servers into small individual
programs which only do 1 thing, and do it well.  Then you combine
those servers under a unified mangement framework, connect them
together by using common communication idioms, the idea being--and
follow me here, to use small programs combined together to provide a
larger service.  Sound familiar?

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"...thats the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle 
 into a lion's mouth and flicking his lovespuds with a wet towel, pure 
 insanity..."						-Rimmer

[1] http://dev.zope.org/Resources/ZopeRoadmap.html


From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 00:55:06 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 19:55:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <1047344108.1419.9.camel@james>

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:07, Paul Winkler wrote:
> A few questions / concerns listed below, otherwise it looks
> fine to me...
> 
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> >   debug mode
> 
> does this still toggle a whole bunch of things?

Yes.  It's still the case that nobody really knows what debug mode
means. ;-)  We just switched from only being able to specify the unknown
via a command-line switch to being able to switch it from a config file
and the command line.

> >   production installation (on/off)
> 
> what's this mean?

Sorry, that should have been "product installation".  This is the same
as what the FORCE_PRODUCT_LOAD envvar does now.

> >   network servers (http, dav, ftp, monitor, etc)
> 
> is this where you set the ports?

Yes.

> 
> One thing I didn't see in your list is a way to extend the products
> path (currently I do that with $PRODUCTS_PATH).  We need that.

This wasn't documented in ENVIRONMENT.txt so it never made it in. 
Thanks for catching it.

> One more question: Does "zopectl.py" always detach from the terminal
> (booo) or not (yay) ?  

No.  It can detach from the terminal, but it needn't. It is actually a
mini shell.

[chrism@james inst]$ bin/zopectl 
program: /tmp/inst/bin/runzope
daemon manager not running
zdctl> ?

Documented commands (type help <topic>):
========================================
fg              foreground      help            kill            
logreopen       logtail         quit            reload          
restart         shell           show            start           
status          stop            wait            

Undocumented commands:
======================
EOF             

zdctl> fg
export EVENT_LOG_FILE
EVENT_LOG_FILE=
/tmp/inst/bin/runzope

HTH,

- C





From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Tue Mar 11 01:24:44 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:24:44 +1300
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <3E6D3ADC.8060309@d-designz.co.nz>

To stop the average Joe printing privileged pages, try putting:

@media print 
{ body { display:none; } }

at the end of your CSS. I haven't testied that, but I have seen similar 
instances of it used before... If it doesn't work, try wrapping the 
whole page in a div and make a custom class, hiding it the same way:

@media print 
{ .wholepage { display:none; } }



Hope that helps,
Chris Beaven

baiewola@netscape.net wrote:

>Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages
>that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
>
>Many thanks.
>  
>



From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 01:34:31 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 20:34:31 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james>

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 19:51, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> > - Environment variables are no longer used for configuration.
>=20
> I'll say it one more time.
>=20
> The roadmap[1] states under the "Simplifying the Zope experience"
> section:
>=20
>     * simple tasks should be simple!
>=20
> Now, code required to extract a value from the environment:
>=20
> import os
> try: value =3D sanitize(os.environ.get("SOMETHING", default))
> except Unsanitary:
>    ...cope...
>=20
> # where 'sanitize' is in reference to any conversion procedures required
> # prior to the use of 'value' by program code

I'm sure you know this, but you are oversimplifying the situation.=20
There are 41 (known) individual environment variables that control
Zope's runtime configuration.  Each use of an environment variable has
its own parsing code, its own error-handling code and the actual code
that does the work (ex: the session envvar parsing stuff in
OFS/Application.py).  If we take your example and make the error
handling code "real" and the work code "real" we can estimate that it
will consume about 1k. Multiply the number of bytes it contains with 41
and we can approximate about 41k of ad-hoc envvar handling code in Zope
now.  That's a boatload of largely untested and decentralized code, all
of which is doing configuration.  There is nothing simple about it. ;-)

> Pretty simple.  Enter ZConfig:
> $ du -sk ZConfig
> 374     ZConfig
>=20
> 374k of work devoted to replacing os.environ.get and its sanitizing
> code, and the result is a XML config file.  I'm not saying this all
> for naught, but really, it should give you pause.  Just how much have
> you really simplified configuration by doing this?

I couldn't really guess how much code in Zope is devoted to runtime
configuration right now because it's spread over the entire codebase.  I
suspect you're right that it's not 374k.  But for ZConfig only 116k is
code, the rest is docs and tests: there are neither (to speak of,
discounting the laughable ENVIRONMENT.txt) in the current 2.6/trunk
codebase for configuration.

> Personally I think the problem of Zope's configuration hassles has
> been mis-identified.  ZConfig cleans up and centralizes a maze of
> badly strewn out configuration code.  It will extend the lifetime of
> the =DCber-server concept ZServer employs.  It does nothing to prevent
> the same mess from happening again, down the road.

Actually, it does.  Packages may declare their own config schema type
definitions and they may be included in the context of a larger
configuration schema.  This is demonstrated in the Zope schema in the
new-install-branch in lib/python/Zope/Startup/zopeschema.xml:

<schema prefix=3D"Zope.Startup.datatypes"
        datatype=3D".root_config"
        handler=3D"root_handler">

  <!-- type definitions -->

  <import package=3D"zLOG"/>
  <import package=3D"ZODB"/>
  <import package=3D"ZServer"/>

....

We import the schema type definitions from the zLOG, ZODB, and ZServer
packages here (these are named component.xml in each of these
packages).  The zope schema file uses these definitions to compose its
own (type-checked) schema for a config file, and they can be (and will
be) reused for ZEO and ZC's ZRS (Zope Replication Server).

For Zope, ZServer is just another package that happens to define the
schema type definitions for network servers.

>  I believe a more
> lasting approach is to seperate the servers into small individual
> programs which only do 1 thing, and do it well.  Then you combine
> those servers under a unified mangement framework, connect them
> together by using common communication idioms, the idea being--and
> follow me here, to use small programs combined together to provide a
> larger service.  Sound familiar?

I think this is done already.  ZConfig is very general and very generic;
you can configure just about anything with it and it has no Zope
dependencies whatsoever.  Fred Drake wrote it so it's pretty solid too.

Before dismissing it out of hand, I'd encourage you to try it out. =20

- C




From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 11 02:42:29 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:42:29 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net> <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>

Chris McDonough wrote:
> 
> Before dismissing it out of hand, I'd encourage you to try it out.  

I'm not dismissing it, and I think you need to go back and read what I
wrote again very very carefully without reading anything into it.  I'm
not trying to imply that using environment variables to configure the
current codebase will reduce the code footprint.  Even if it did,
because of the distributed nature of the technique, its damnedly hard
to maintain in a project as large as Zope.  Also, I didn't say ZConfig
was 374k of code, I said it was 374k of *work*.   I chose that word
very carefully, and obviously thats going to err on the side of
conservatism as certainly the work was not isolated to that single
directory tree.

The point I'm trying to make is that Zope has learned nothing from the
UNIX philosophy.  Yes, you can extend the config schema.  You can grow
new, better config files, of extraordinary magnitude.  The
all-powerful server will grow from being all-powerful to being
all-powerful + n.  It will be able to read mail.  Its heralds shall
sit upon mountain high throwns hewn of the finest O'Reilly and New
Riders scripture.  But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
affecting the HTTP server.

Fracture the server infrastructure into small, seperate processes.
The configuration of the individual pieces becomes trivial.  The
understanding of the overall data flow improves.  When there's nothing
left to remove from code, you've won.  Some of the breaks have already
been made, like the separation of the storage from its front-end.
Thats good, we need more action along those lines.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing
 next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution."
						-Sathington Willoughby


From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 02:52:50 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 20:52:50 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
In-Reply-To: <3E6C9E27.2080208@nipltd.com>
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>
 <1047018362.4948.79.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <3E6C9E27.2080208@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <1047351169.20486.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Honestly, I don't remember why. Looking back at when I did the code ...
It was probably because I didn't know about .getPath()

There are times when, while I don't think they are the end all - be all
of docs, I really want a javadoc equivalent for python ... And a
complete set of them for the classes in zope.

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 08:16, Chris Withers wrote:
> Edward Muller wrote:
> > 
> > tal:define="url python: result.getpath(result.data_record_id_)"
> 
> why not just use result.getPath()?
> (you may actually want result.getURL()...)
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 03:11:15 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 22:11:15 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net>
 <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james>
 <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <1047352276.1419.61.camel@james>

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:42, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> The point I'm trying to make is that Zope has learned nothing from the
> UNIX philosophy.  Yes, you can extend the config schema.  You can grow
> new, better config files, of extraordinary magnitude.  The
> all-powerful server will grow from being all-powerful to being
> all-powerful + n.  It will be able to read mail.  Its heralds shall
> sit upon mountain high throwns hewn of the finest O'Reilly and New
> Riders scripture.  But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
> mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
> affecting the HTTP server.

Point taken.

> Fracture the server infrastructure into small, seperate processes.
> The configuration of the individual pieces becomes trivial.  The
> understanding of the overall data flow improves.  When there's nothing
> left to remove from code, you've won.  Some of the breaks have already
> been made, like the separation of the storage from its front-end.
> Thats good, we need more action along those lines.

I think this is a noble goal, but far beyond the scope of the current
project, which is stated on the project page as "Make it easier for
sysadmins and new Zope developers to install and configure Zope".  I
believe that ZConfig will help us towards this goal.  It should also not
hinder us from reaching the goal that you've defined above.

Thanks,

- C





From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 03:13:55 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 21:13:55 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
Message-ID: <1047352435.20485.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hopefully I'll get to play with this later on in the week..

But here are the things I know I need as part of my business:

-The ability to specify which python to use to build, install and run
zope with. Our production machines have various version 1.5.2, 2.1.X,
2.2.X, etc installed. I must be able to specify the location.

-The ability for each instance to have separate Product directories.
Some users want plone, some don't. Some develop their own software.

-The ability to start/stop zope without access to /proc (or the
equivalent on other unices) on Linux.

I don't know if the changes made affect any of the above ... but it
would suck major #$W%% if it did. Oh, and part of my business if hosting
zope ... if you are wondering where the above (off the top of my head
list) comes from. Other than that it looks like the changes will be good
for me.

Oh and some way to have multiple zope versions installed at the same
time would be great as well. :-)

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 15:41, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> An effort to improve Zope 2 installation, startup, and configuration for
> Zope 2.7 has been ongoing for some time now (see
> http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/InstallationAndConfiguration).  
> The effort has reached a point where we believe it is reasonable to
> merge its fruits to the Zope trunk.  Before doing so, however, we want
> to gather input from people who care deeply about Zope configuration and
> installation; particularly those who have significant investments in the
> existing behaviors of Zope 2 configuration and installation.  A bunch of
> stuff is changed (most notably Zope no longer uses environment variables
> as configuration, and instead defers to command-line arguments and
> config file values).
> 
> What follows is a summary of changes, a walk-through of a Zope 2
> installation under this regime, and a list of the configuration-file
> changeable parameters exposed by the current Zope configuration schema.
> 
> Please provide your feedback before this Friday, March 14.  If possible,
> check out and try the new software.  If there are showstopper issues for
> a lot of people, we will consider not performing the merge directly
> after that date.  Otherwise, the merge will be performed at any time
> after the 14th.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - C
> 
> -----
> Major changes in Zope 2.7
> =========================
> 
> Zope 2.7 will contain a number of changes related to the build process
> and configuration.  The scripts used to start Zope will also be
> substantially changed.  The implementation of these changes is not yet
> complete, but a substantial portion has been done and is expected to
> be merged into the Zope 2 trunk in the near future.
> 
> The exact schedule for merging these changes has not been determined;
> additional notice will be provided.  These changes are substantially
> based on efforts by Chris McDonough on the "chrism-install-branch".
> 
> Major changes
> -------------
> 
> The following are the most important and user-visible changes compared
> to Zope 2.6 and the current CVS HEAD:
> 
> - Configuration is normally done by editing a config file instead of
>   passing command line options.  The configuration file is handled by
>   the ZConfig package.
> 
> - Environment variables are no longer used for configuration.
> 
> - Building and installing the software have become more clearly
>   distinct; the installation can be separate from the build.
> 
> - Zope 2.7 uses the "instance home" model in the normal case: a script
>   in the installed software is used to create new "instances" of Zope.
>   Each instance is defined by a directory tree containing
>   configuration, scripts, and data.  (For convenience, the instance
>   and the installation can be located in the same directory, and the
>   build area may be used in lieu of an installation if desired.)
> 
> - The z2.py, start, and stop scripts have been replaced by the runzope
>   and zopectl scripts.
> 
> - The runzope/zopectl scripts do not accept the same command-line
>   arguments as z2.py used to accept.
> 
> - The wo_pcgi.py script used to build Zope without PCGI support has
>   been replaced by the common Unix build sequence of configure, make.
> 
> - The pcgi/ directory and the w_pcgi.py script have been removed from
>   the top of the source tree.  The pcgi/ directory may be made
>   available as a separate distribution.  (The application server still
>   has support to allow connections from a PCGI-capable Web server.)
> 
> - The ZServer package has been moved from the top of the source tree
>   into the lib/python/ directory.
> 
> 
> Getting the code today
> ----------------------
> 
> The implementation lives in the "new-install-branch", which is a
> "partial" branch rather than a complete branch: only the files and
> directories which need to be changed have been placed on the branch;
> all other files are used from the CVS HEAD.  The current state of this
> code can be checked out from CVS using the command:
> 
>     cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.zope.org:/cvs-repository co \
>         -r new-install-branch -f Zope
> 
> The installation instructions in doc/INSTALL.txt has been updated on
> the branch; that file provides detailed information on creating an
> installation and instance.  (A copy has been attached for convenience.)
> 
> A sample installation/startup runthrough
> ---------------------------------------
> 
> The below is the output from a sample install session.  During this
> session, we install the Zope software to /tmp/zopehome and install an
> instance home to /tmp/insthome.
> 
>   [chrism@james software]$ cd NewInstallBranch/
>   [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ ./configure --prefix=/tmp/zopehome
> 
>   Configuring Zope installation
> 
>   Testing for an acceptable Python interpreter...
> 
>     Python version 2.1.3 found at /home/chrism/bin/python
>     Python version 2.1.3 found at /home/chrism/bin/python2.1
>     Python version 2.2.2 found at /home/chrism/bin/python2.2
> 
>     The optimimum Python version (2.2.2) was found at
> /home/chrism/bin/python2.2.
> 
>     - Zope top-level binary directory will be /tmp/zopehome.
>     - Makefile written.
> 
>     Next, run make.
> 
>   [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ make
>   "/home/chrism/bin/python2.2" inst/setup.py -q build_ext -i
>   <... compilation output elided ...>
> 
>   Zope built. Next, do 'make install' (or 'make instance'
>   to run a Zope instance directly from the build directory).
> 
>   [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ make install
>   <... installation output elided ...>
> 
>   Zope binaries installed successfully.
>   Now run '/tmp/zopehome/bin/mkzopeinstance'
> 
>   [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ /tmp/zopehome/bin/mkzopeinstance
>   mkzopeinstance requires exactly one argument
> 
>   mkzopeinstance:  Create a Zope instance home.
> 
>   usage:  mkzopeinstance [options] directory
> 
>   Options:
> 
>   -h/--help -- print this help text
>   -u/--user NAME:PASSWORD -- set the user name and password of the
> initial user
> 
>   [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ /tmp/zopehome/bin/mkzopeinstance \
>       --user=admin:123 /tmp/inst
>   [chrism@james NewInstallBranch]$ cd /tmp/inst/
>   [chrism@james inst]$ ls
>   bin  etc  Extensions  import  inituser  log  Products  README.txt  var
>   [chrism@james inst]$ bin/zopectl start
>   . daemon process started, pid=2947
>   [chrism@james inst]$ bin/zopectl stop
>   . daemon process stopped
> 
> Changing the configuration via the config file
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> The Zope configuration file uses the ZConfig API and file format.  See
> the ZConfig documentation PDF at
> http://cvs.zope.org/Packages/ZConfig/doc/zconfig.pdf for more
> information.
> 
> The default Zope configuration file will live in the instance_home's
> /etc directory and will be named 'zope.conf'.  The Zope configuration
> file allows you to change the following configuration variables:
> 
>   instance home
>   client home
>   debug mode
>   effective user
>   production installation (on/off)
>   locale
>   number of zserver threads
>   the python "check interval" (thread switch timing)
>   zserver read only mode
>   pid file name
>   lock file name
>   structured text header level
>   publisher profile file (debugging)
>   cgi environment
>   dns server (hostname resolving in logfiles)
>   ip address (for zserver bindings)
>   http realm
>   automatic quotation of dtml request data
>   security manager stack size
>   security policy implementation (C, Python)
>   skip authentication checking
>   skip ownership checking
>   max number of session objects
>   session "add notify" script path
>   session "delete notify" script path
>   session timeout minutes
>   access rule suppress
>   site root suppression
>   database quota size
>   read only database
>   zeo client name
>   logging (access, event, debug, filenames, to syslog, etc).
>   network servers (http, dav, ftp, monitor, etc)
>   databases (storages, database classes, etc.)
> 
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 03:17:34 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 21:17:34 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <1047352654.20062.32.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 17:07, Paul Winkler wrote:
> A few questions / concerns listed below, otherwise it looks
> fine to me...
> 
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:41:48PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> >   debug mode
> 
> does this still toggle a whole bunch of things?
> 
> >   production installation (on/off)
> 
> what's this mean?
> 
> >   network servers (http, dav, ftp, monitor, etc)
> 
> is this where you set the ports?
> 
> One thing I didn't see in your list is a way to extend the products
> path (currently I do that with $PRODUCTS_PATH).  We need that.
> 
> One more question: Does "zopectl.py" always detach from the terminal
> (booo) or not (yay) ?  
> Or does it behave like z2.py and this depends on "debug mode" (booo) ?

Actually I like the way z2.py detaches or doesn't detach. Perhaps a
separate config option would be good to control this.

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From fred@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 03:31:13 2003
From: fred@zope.com (Fred L. Drake, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:31:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047352654.20062.32.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com>
 <1047352654.20062.32.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <15981.22657.392834.22709@grendel.zope.com>

Edward Muller writes:
 > Actually I like the way z2.py detaches or doesn't detach. Perhaps a
 > separate config option would be good to control this.

Detaching, or "daemonizing", will be a separate configuration
parameter from everything else.  The basic mechanism will be that
provided by the zdctl.py/zdrun.py scripts in the zdaemon package.


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From list@zettai.net  Tue Mar 11 03:31:37 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:31:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <3E6CBDBD.15422.BE7EE1@localhost>
Message-ID: <BA92C2C9.21B2E%list@zettai.net>

[hpinson@indepthl.com wrote (hpinson@indepthl.com) on 3/10/03 6:30 PM]

>> How big is the file? Is it possible that you're just waiting for it > to
>> upload?
> 
> The file is 4.9 mb, over a fast DSL connection.  I've tried importing
> several times now in several browsers, each with the same results.
> I've let the process run for over 20 minutes.  Zope just appears to
> hang when importing this MP3 file.

Is the object being created in your Zope?

And the better question: why put an mp3 in Zope? If you need to use it in
Zope why not dump it onto the filesystem and use LocalFS or one of the other
fs to Zope solutions to have a related object in Zope?
  
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 03:34:33 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 21:34:33 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Setuid
In-Reply-To: <20030311003543.08efaed7.slupzz@libero.it>
References: <20030311001236.43673e0d.slupzz@libero.it>
 <20030311003543.08efaed7.slupzz@libero.it>
Message-ID: <1047353673.20063.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>

read the docs, like the error says.

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 17:35, slupzz wrote:
> Blank to all I have installed zope-2.6.0_1 on freebsd 4,7 stable but I have of the problems to make to start it. 
>  
>  If launch zope from root with 
>  
> 
>  su-2.05b# ./start
>   I receive this error SystemExit: A user was not specified to setuid to; fix this to start as root (see doc/SETUID.txt)
>  
>  I have tried also always launch it with l option - u from root 
>  
>  su-2.05b# ./start -u slupz
>  
>  SystemExit: /usr/local/www/Zope/var is not owned by root, fix this to start as root (see doc/SETUID.txt)
>  
>  Someone puo gives to me one aid hand? Thanks to all. 
> Excused for my English. 
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 03:33:23 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 21:33:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <3E6CBDBD.15422.BE7EE1@localhost>
References: <3E6CBDBD.15422.BE7EE1@localhost>
Message-ID: <1047353603.20486.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Unless your DSL is a synchronous DSL line (which is usually only used in
business applications and usually costs over $100.00 a month for the
slowest types), it would take aprox. 53:31 minutes:seconds to upload a
4.9 MB file over a 128Kbps DSL line. This is assuming max throughput.

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 17:30, hpinson@indepthl.com wrote:
> > How big is the file? Is it possible that you're just waiting for it > to upload?
> 
> The file is 4.9 mb, over a fast DSL connection.  I've tried importing 
> several times now in several browsers, each with the same results.  
> I've let the process run for over 20 minutes.  Zope just appears to 
> hang when importing this MP3 file.
> 
> Harlow Pinson
> Indepth Learning
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From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 03:47:30 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 22:47:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047352435.20485.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <1047352435.20485.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1047354451.1423.91.camel@james>

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 22:13, Edward Muller wrote:
> Hopefully I'll get to play with this later on in the week..
> 
> But here are the things I know I need as part of my business:
> 
> -The ability to specify which python to use to build, install and run
> zope with. Our production machines have various version 1.5.2, 2.1.X,
> 2.2.X, etc installed. I must be able to specify the location.

Yup.

./configure --with-python=/path/to/your/python

> 
> -The ability for each instance to have separate Product directories.
> Some users want plone, some don't. Some develop their own software.

This is inherent in INSTANCE_HOME behavior.  The result of
"mkzopeinstance" will contain a Products directory which may contain
Zope software.  Many instances can be configured to run from a single
software home (a software home is the result of "make install")

> 
> -The ability to start/stop zope without access to /proc (or the
> equivalent on other unices) on Linux.

Yes.

> 
> I don't know if the changes made affect any of the above ... but it
> would suck major #$W%% if it did. Oh, and part of my business if hosting
> zope ... if you are wondering where the above (off the top of my head
> list) comes from. Other than that it looks like the changes will be good
> for me.
> 
> Oh and some way to have multiple zope versions installed at the same
> time would be great as well. :-)

Sure.

In a Zope 2.7.0 source directory:

./configure --prefix=/opt/zope-2.7.0
make
make install

In a Zope 2.7.1 source directory:

./configure --prefix=/opt/zope-2.7.1
make
make install

... then 'mkzopeinstance' from either.

- C




From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Tue Mar 11 04:25:49 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:25:49 +0400
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C103@AUHEXCH>

I would agree, since you seem to know RDBMS already. Use ZODB for metadata
and other types of objects. This approach also allows access to the data
from other, external applications. Or go with whatever gives you the
"cleanest" application design.

One of the things Python & Zope emphasize is that it's not about the raw
numbers, it's all about ease of use, rate of development/deployment,
application of logic, etc.

Samir.

And this is of course, just my $0.02.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 01:33
To: mlong@datalong.com
Cc: Zope
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases


Michael Long wrote at 2003-3-10 09:05 -0500:
 > Please forgive me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. I am writting an
 > application that will be capturing financial information. If I use the
 > ZODB and create expense and income objects to capture this information
 > there will over a 1000 objects added a week. I will be tracking history,
 > archiving data, etc. Is Zope the right tool for this type of application
 > or am I better off creating the objects that this data is associated
 > (companies, people, properties, etc) within the ZODB and using a
 > relational database such as PostgreSQL to track the higher volume
 > financial data.

If I have lots of highly structured data, I would go for
a relational database and not store them in the ZODB.


Dieter

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From stacyl_roberts@yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 04:28:17 2003
From: stacyl_roberts@yahoo.com (Stacy Roberts)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:28:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Odd behavior based on allowed metatypes
Message-ID: <20030311042817.88095.qmail@web41509.mail.yahoo.com>

I am in the process of creating container objects as a
Python process. I want a result similar to the
following structure. 

Resource Store - contains only Resource Folders
Resource Folder - can contain multiple nestes Resource
Folders and a Resource Source
Resource Source - can contain only Resource Databases
Resource Database - can contain only Record objects

The Record objects have initially been developed as a
stand alone product. 

My trouble begins in restricting the allowable
meta_types to only one meta_type. From within my
Resource Database, the factory method is not found. If
I allow another metatype to be added, everything works
fine. My Record objects can also be added to any other
standard Zope object. I have even went as far as to
place my Record product inside the Resources product.
In doing so, I included a factory method for the top
level of the Record inside my Resource Database class.
The record is then added, but top level icons are
lost. 

The way things are behaving for me have totally defied
my understanding of how products operate inside Zope.
Can someone help me understand what is going on? Why
is the behavior different simply because I allow one
vs. more than one metatype to be added? 

Thanks,
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From hpinson@indepthl.com  Tue Mar 11 04:31:58 2003
From: hpinson@indepthl.com (hpinson@indepthl.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:31:58 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
Message-ID: <3E6D044E.5650.22B1F3@localhost>

Just tested, and the same 4.6 mb mp3 file uploads via FTP to a remote 
file system at ~253kbps in 3.01 minutes via my low-end DSL.

The zope file object upload has been spinning for over an hour now.

I know I can link to this from the file system-- i'm just trying to 
understand what seems an odd behavior, which I've seen occasionally 
before with large file objects going into Zope, -- I'm not really 
looking for a workaround.





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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar 11 04:41:26 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:41:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <15981.22657.392834.22709@grendel.zope.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <20030310230723.GE13052@slinkp.com> <1047352654.20062.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> <15981.22657.392834.22709@grendel.zope.com>
Message-ID: <20030311044126.GB14491@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:31:13PM -0500, Fred L. Drake, Jr. wrote:
> Detaching, or "daemonizing", will be a separate configuration
> parameter from everything else.

great, that is exactly what i really want.

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From praveenkkumar@yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 04:51:16 2003
From: praveenkkumar@yahoo.com (K.Praveen Kumar)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:51:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] How to prevent access to Ananymous User?
Message-ID: <20030311045116.89820.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
  I'ld like to build a web site with Authentication. I'm
using "ex User Folder"  to create authentication. I'm using
MySQL and Cookie based authentication. When I access the
page It still logging in as "Anonymous User",(I think it
should redirect to the login page). If I go to the login
page manually and logging in with username and password
it's working fine. Please suggest me how to prevent
"Anonymous User" from viewing the pages.
I'll be really looking forward for your reply.

Thanks & Regards
Praveen

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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar 11 04:52:54 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:52:54 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <1047353603.20486.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <3E6CBDBD.15422.BE7EE1@localhost> <1047353603.20486.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030311045254.GC14491@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:33:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> Unless your DSL is a synchronous DSL line (which is usually only used in
> business applications and usually costs over $100.00 a month for the
> slowest types), it would take aprox. 53:31 minutes:seconds to upload a
> 4.9 MB file over a 128Kbps DSL line. This is assuming max throughput.

nah, more like 5 minutes...

Python 2.1.3 (#1, Jul 29 2002, 22:34:51) 
[GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)] on linux2
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> (4.9 * 1024 * 1024 * 8) / (128 * 1024)
313.60000000000002
>>> _ / 60
5.2266666666666675

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From knoll@camicad.com  Tue Mar 11 05:22:39 2003
From: knoll@camicad.com (HP Knoll)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:22:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting current object in an expression while in a dtml-in loop
Message-ID: <000901c2e78e$3c7c0c10$fe78a8c0@enterprise>

Hi,

In my search results page I would like to display only those results where
the user has the permission to view those files. My question is: how do I
refer to the current object in a <dtml-in> loop?
I know that I could use <dtml-in Catalog skip_unauthorized> but it still
displays all results, even those where the user has absolutely no right.

Here is the example:

<dtml-in Catalog>
<dtml-if expr="_.SecurityGetUser().has_permission('View', OBJECT?????)">
...
</dtml-if>
</dtml-in>

Can anyone help?
Thanks
Hans




From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 05:24:47 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 10 Mar 2003 23:24:47 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047354451.1423.91.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <1047352435.20485.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <1047354451.1423.91.camel@james>
Message-ID: <1047360287.20063.57.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Okay here is another one :-)

given...

./configure --prefix=/opt/zope-2.7.0
make
make install

Once zope is installed in /opt/zope-2.7.0 can it be moved without
damaging the install .... say to
/home/virtual/some.host.name/opt/zope-2.7.0 ?

In our hosting setup some things get run in a chroot, some things
can't...

Currently zope get's installed in a chroot environment for anyone who
wants a zope install. It must be a complete install since when the user
restarts it he will be in his chroot environment.

So I'd ideally like to install zope in a way where all of the core of
zope is in one place ... say ... /opt/zope/<version #> (/opt/zope/2.7.0,
/opt/zope/2.7.1, etc...)

This I can hardlink/symlink into each chroot and make permissions 755
root/root.

>From there I would like to be able to install an 'instance', which is
... in my case meaning the data.fs, /Products directory, log files, etc,
etc. The stuff that make this users instance theirs. When the install is
happening, the script executing it would most likely be outside of the
chroot ... but I guess it could be configured to chroot as well..

I already have start/stop scripts to go through the users that have a
zope install and chroot into that users 'host' and then start zope as
that 'hosts' administrative user.

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:47, Chris McDonough wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 22:13, Edward Muller wrote:
> > Hopefully I'll get to play with this later on in the week..
> > 
> > But here are the things I know I need as part of my business:
> > 
> > -The ability to specify which python to use to build, install and run
> > zope with. Our production machines have various version 1.5.2, 2.1.X,
> > 2.2.X, etc installed. I must be able to specify the location.
> 
> Yup.
> 
> ./configure --with-python=/path/to/your/python
> 
> > 
> > -The ability for each instance to have separate Product directories.
> > Some users want plone, some don't. Some develop their own software.
> 
> This is inherent in INSTANCE_HOME behavior.  The result of
> "mkzopeinstance" will contain a Products directory which may contain
> Zope software.  Many instances can be configured to run from a single
> software home (a software home is the result of "make install")
> 
> > 
> > -The ability to start/stop zope without access to /proc (or the
> > equivalent on other unices) on Linux.
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > 
> > I don't know if the changes made affect any of the above ... but it
> > would suck major #$W%% if it did. Oh, and part of my business if hosting
> > zope ... if you are wondering where the above (off the top of my head
> > list) comes from. Other than that it looks like the changes will be good
> > for me.
> > 
> > Oh and some way to have multiple zope versions installed at the same
> > time would be great as well. :-)
> 
> Sure.
> 
> In a Zope 2.7.0 source directory:
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/zope-2.7.0
> make
> make install
> 
> In a Zope 2.7.1 source directory:
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/opt/zope-2.7.1
> make
> make install
> 
> ... then 'mkzopeinstance' from either.
> 
> - C
> 
> 
> 
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From missive@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 11 05:54:14 2003
From: missive@hotmail.com (Lee Harr)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 05:54:14 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Pagination
Message-ID: <BAY2-F184fkkqNj1VOs0005bee5@hotmail.com>

>I'm not sure where to start here, and I'm kind of new to Zope here, but I
>thought I would ask.  How do most ZSQL generated lists get paginated?  I
>haven't seen hardly anything pointing to a way of doing this.  Maybe I'm
>just looking in the wrong area.  I would like to know how to display a list
>of items with a page break that displays page numbers, something similar to
>this:
>(Prev -  1  -  2  -  3  -  Next)
>
>I would appreciate any input on how someone else achieved this.  >Thanks :)
>


You might want to look at my ImagePagerFolder
http://www.zope.org/Members/leeharr/Products/ImagePagerFolder/


It does not get its list from sql, but it might be useful.


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From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 06:00:44 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:00:44 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Stupid ZPT/Product Question
Message-ID: <1047362444.20063.60.camel@localhost.localdomain>

In a class of my product I declare the following...

index_html = PageTemplateFile('www/Customer/index_html', globals())

What path would I use to display the id of my object in that index_html?

<span tal:replace="?????/id"/>


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From mlong@datalong.com  Tue Mar 11 06:13:21 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01:13:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
Message-ID: <E18sd0q-0004hs-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

Thanks to everyone for all of the feedback. I am going to start by
getting a product built to manage the metadata. By that time I should
know zope well enough to determine which approach will be best for the
OLTP data. Right now it seems like the RDBMS is the way to go however.

Cheers,
Mike

> I would agree, since you seem to know RDBMS already. Use ZODB for metadata
> and other types of objects. This approach also allows access to the data
> from other, external applications. Or go with whatever gives you the
> "cleanest" application design.
> 
> One of the things Python & Zope emphasize is that it's not about the raw
> numbers, it's all about ease of use, rate of development/deployment,
> application of logic, etc.
> 
> Samir.
> 
> And this is of course, just my $0.02.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 01:33
> To: mlong@datalong.com
> Cc: Zope
> Subject: Re: [Zope] ZODB vs Relational Databases
> 
> 
> Michael Long wrote at 2003-3-10 09:05 -0500:
>  > Please forgive me if this is in a FAQ somewhere. I am writting an
>  > application that will be capturing financial information. If I use the
>  > ZODB and create expense and income objects to capture this information
>  > there will over a 1000 objects added a week. I will be tracking
history,
>  > archiving data, etc. Is Zope the right tool for this type of
application
>  > or am I better off creating the objects that this data is associated
>  > (companies, people, properties, etc) within the ZODB and using a
>  > relational database such as PostgreSQL to track the higher volume
>  > financial data.
> 
> If I have lots of highly structured data, I would go for
> a relational database and not store them in the ZODB.
> 
> 
> Dieter
> 
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From maxm@mxm.dk  Tue Mar 11 07:02:46 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:02:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Stupid ZPT/Product Question
In-Reply-To: <1047362444.20063.60.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047362444.20063.60.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>

Edward Muller wrote:

>In a class of my product I declare the following...
>
>index_html = PageTemplateFile('www/Customer/index_html', globals())
>
>What path would I use to display the id of my object in that index_html?
>
><span tal:replace="?????/id"/>
>
>
>  
>
<span tal:replace="here/id"/>

or 

<span tal:replace="here/getId"/>


regards Max M




From zope@zope.org  Tue Mar 11 07:12:55 2003
From: zope@zope.org (Tim)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 02:12:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] index_html
In-Reply-To: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
References: <30DD45D78A55004C8B543CD7B65C91452D2A19@ncwts003.ncg.ch>
Message-ID: <1256741990.20030311021255@Vex.Net>

Stefan wrote on Thursday, March 6, 2003, 5:58:23 AM:
> Can I edit index_html on some way direct on the linux command line?

ZShell has saved my stupid butt from many (but not all) stupid
mistakes many times... here's a link for future reference...

http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/ZShell/action_Presentation

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From satimis@icare.com.hk  Tue Mar 11 07:36:28 2003
From: satimis@icare.com.hk (Stephen Liu)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:36:28 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Whether Zope can do the job
References: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk> <20030310174016.GA16209@piper.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <3E6D91FC.9010405@icare.com.hk>

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your response.

martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Stephen Liu <satimis@icare.com.hk> [2003.03.10.1721 +0100]:
> 
>>I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort, 
>>Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.
> 
> 
> Zope is an Application Server, it has nothing to do with scanning.

I can use Xsane to scan but I need a desktop/platform for keeping the 
scanned images.

>>One more important job is data searching on the scanned images.  On 
>>PaperPort you can create a database bank on all scanned images and do 
>>data searching.
> 
> 
> How do you want to search images? convert them to text? not Zope's
> job...

I can use OCR to do the job


B.Regards
Stephen




From satimis@icare.com.hk  Tue Mar 11 07:57:02 2003
From: satimis@icare.com.hk (Stephen Liu)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:57:02 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
References: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk> <3E6CCEA9.9080601@regebro.nu>
Message-ID: <3E6D96CE.50704@icare.com.hk>

Hi Lennart,

Thanks for your response.

Lennart Regebro wrote:
> - snip -
> 
> It is quite possible to create that type of application with Zope, yes. 
> To search the scanned images you need OCR software. It's not included in 
> Zope, but you can integrate third-party SW. Same thing goes for PDF 
> support.

I can use Xsane for scanning.  It is a graphic-mode application  Also I 
can use "kooka" to do scan and OCR, also a graphic-mode application. 
What I need is a desktop/platform for keeping all scanned images for me 
to do some simple editing/graphic retouching work.  Of course I can use 
GIMP but it is not for such a purpose.  Also I can use "convert", a 
single line command, from ImageMagicks to convert all scanned images to 
PDF format as a book.  All of them are not an open-box solution.  Maybe 
I create some script with "python" to glue all mentioned applications. 
But I am now searching whether there is a more simple and 
straight-forward solution.

> Most likely, if you have a software that works the way you like, the 
> cheapest way will be to buy that software. But yes, you CAN do what you 
> describe with Zope + some third-party software.

I have been running PaperPort/PageKeeper/OmniPage/Pagis for years.  They 
work fine on Windows.  But I am searching for a similar application from 
OpenSource to run on Linux

B.Regards
Stephen




From satimis@icare.com.hk  Tue Mar 11 08:06:16 2003
From: satimis@icare.com.hk (Stephen Liu)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:06:16 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
References: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFOEADCLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>
Message-ID: <3E6D98F8.6020201@icare.com.hk>

Hi Fernando

Thanks for your respone.

Fernando Martins wrote:
> - snip -
> 
> I've used PaperPort quite some years ago and it was very nice application on
> functionality and ease of use. I don't think Zope is an alternative to it.
> Albeit you can build one with it (cf. sean's post) keep in mind zope is web
> oriented, ie. you would have to build an interface based on html.

I have some suggestions from other lists to do the job. What I have to 
do is to glue some applications with 'Perl' or 'Python' But I am 
inexperience.  Also I am searching whether there is other easy ways

> Are you really looking for a web application? To provide the same ease of
> use as PaperPort in a browser would be quite a challenge, IMHO. Someone tell
> me I'm wrong... (well I suppose you could combine with Java or
> SASH+Javascript but...).

No, I am not looking for a web application

B.Regards
Stephen



From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Tue Mar 11 08:15:54 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:15:54 +0200
Subject: [Zope] External Editor
In-Reply-To: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18qzx6-0006jk-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <200303111015.54413.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Thursday 06 March 2003 20:18, Michael Long wrote:
> I get an error message saying that "External editor lost connection to
> editor process." 

Connection lose appears after your editor detaches created by him the 
tempfile. Gvim probably has options to fix this (-f ?). External Editor works 
fine with both OS (UNIX and Win32), except on Windows there're some 
strangeness with WebDAV. But I think it might be Windows DAV implementation 
issues.

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.



From m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de  Tue Mar 11 08:18:07 2003
From: m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de (Matthias =?iso-8859-15?q?H=F6rtzsch?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:18:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] xmlrpc problems
In-Reply-To: <009b01c2e70a$555b2100$522d84c8@zhang>
References: <200303101417.16606.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de> <009b01c2e70a$555b2100$522d84c8@zhang>
Message-ID: <200303110918.07740.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>

Hello and thanks for the answer

Am Montag, 10. M=E4rz 2003 14:38 schrieb Eduardo Bastos:
> Hello Matthias...
>
> The method you use in zope needs a doc string.
> Doc string is a small comment about the method.
>
> like this:
> def method():
>     """ doc string """
>
> []s
> Eduardo Bastos

maybe I made not really clear what I mean:

The calls to objectIds and getId are calls to Zope API methods, not to self=
=20
defined methods. So I think parts of the Zope API have wrong comments and=20
thats why its not possible to make xmlrpc calls because there will be alway=
s=20
the missing docstring error.

I think it would be a good idea to correct the comments in the Zope API.

Matthias

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthias H=F6rtzsch" <m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>
> To: <zope@zope.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:17 AM
> Subject: [Zope] xmlrpc problems
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > while trying something with xmlrpc and Amos examples
> > (http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/XML-RPC) I got while using the
>
> objectIds -
>
> > method an error: objectIds has an empty or missing docstring. Objects
> > must have a docstring to be published
> >
> > If I use for example getId all works fine.
> >
> > looking into the sources told me that objectIds comment (and also from
>
> many
>
> > other methods) looks like:
> >
> > # Returns a list of subobject ids of the current object.
> > # If 'spec' is specified, returns objects whose meta_type
> > # matches 'spec'.
> >
> > So if I change it to:
> > """Returns a list of subobject ids of the current object.
> >         If 'spec' is specified, returns objects whose meta_type
> >         matches 'spec'."""
> >
> > it works now and I get the results of the xmlrpc call.
> >
> > So is this maybe a 'comment' bug and a case for the collector or should
>
> these
>
> > methods no more used via xmlrpc?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Tue Mar 11 08:30:55 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:30:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to prevent access to Ananymous User?
In-Reply-To: <20030311045116.89820.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030311045116.89820.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200303110930.56197.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 05:51, K.Praveen Kumar wrote:
> Hi,
>   I'ld like to build a web site with Authentication. I'm
> using "ex User Folder"  to create authentication. I'm using
> MySQL and Cookie based authentication. When I access the
> page It still logging in as "Anonymous User",(I think it
> should redirect to the login page). If I go to the login
> page manually and logging in with username and password
> it's working fine. Please suggest me how to prevent
> "Anonymous User" from viewing the pages.
> I'll be really looking forward for your reply.

Just remove 'View' and 'Access contents information' permissions to the 
'Anonymous' role on the folder which is at your site root.

Thierry


From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Tue Mar 11 08:36:52 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:36:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting current object in an expression while in a dtml-in loop
In-Reply-To: <000901c2e78e$3c7c0c10$fe78a8c0@enterprise>
References: <000901c2e78e$3c7c0c10$fe78a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <200303110936.52437.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 06:22, HP Knoll wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In my search results page I would like to display only those results where
> the user has the permission to view those files. My question is: how do I
> refer to the current object in a <dtml-in> loop?
> I know that I could use <dtml-in Catalog skip_unauthorized> but it still
> displays all results, even those where the user has absolutely no right.
>
> Here is the example:
>
> <dtml-in Catalog>
> <dtml-if expr="_.SecurityGetUser().has_permission('View', OBJECT?????)">
> ...
> </dtml-if>
> </dtml-in>

Your code don't work because a catalog request just retrieve public catalog 
entries (called "brains"), not real objects.
It should work with something like :

<dtml-in "[record.getObject() for record in Catalog()]" skip_unauthorized>
...
</dtml-in>

Then, what you retrieve is a list of real objects, on which you may be able to 
apply the "skip_unauthorized" parameter ; you can also sort this list on any 
of your objects properties, and not only those indexed into the catalog.

Not tested anyway, and I don't know if this kind of code is as efficient as it 
should be...

Thierry


From marinus@cs.utwente.nl  Tue Mar 11 08:45:39 2003
From: marinus@cs.utwente.nl (Ria Marinussen)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:45:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs
Message-ID: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F50200102774E@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>

Hi Dieter,

thanks for your advise.
One question about the "-M" logging. 
I adjusted the zope source to have rotating Z2.log files
(tip at: http://www.zope.org/Members/tim/logmanagement).

Do you know whether the "-M" logfile rotate as well with this adjustment?

Thanks,

Ria

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:30 PM
> To: Ria Marinussen
> Cc: 'zope@zope.org'
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope hangs
> 
> 
> Ria Marinussen wrote at 2003-3-10 12:46 +0100:
>  > This weekend my Zope server stopped serving pages.
>  >  
>  > The last entry in my Z2.log file was:
>  > 218.27.99.174 - Anonymous [08/Mar/2003:02:08:40 +0200] "CONNECT
>  > 65.54.166.99:25 HTTP/1.1" 404 264 "" ""
> 
> This request completed normally (with an 404 error indication).
> 
> The following request may have killed your Zope.
> 
> Use the "-M" logging (--> archives) to determine requests
> causing Zope to crash.
> 
> 
> Dieter
> 


From jonas@fakta.is  Tue Mar 11 08:47:31 2003
From: jonas@fakta.is (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F3nas_Sigur=F0sson?=)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:47:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
In-Reply-To: <3E6D3ADC.8060309@d-designz.co.nz>
Message-ID: <000401c2e7aa$daf91a10$7d73a150@variant>

On the subject of stopping average Joe, a way I have used is a simple
alternate page for printing, returning "action denied" or special
formatted page for printing.

Insert this into your page header:

<link rel=alternate media=print href"{print formatted page or printing
denied}">

This will prevent most average users from printing the page, good enough
for many cases.

Jonas



-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of
Chris Beaven
Sent: 11. mars 2003 02:25
To: baiewola@netscape.net
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] prevent printing?

To stop the average Joe printing privileged pages, try putting:

@media print 
{ body { display:none; } }

at the end of your CSS. I haven't testied that, but I have seen similar 
instances of it used before... If it doesn't work, try wrapping the 
whole page in a div and make a custom class, hiding it the same way:

@media print 
{ .wholepage { display:none; } }



Hope that helps,
Chris Beaven

baiewola@netscape.net wrote:

>Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages
>that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?
>
>Many thanks.
>  
>


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From praveenkkumar@yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 10:06:53 2003
From: praveenkkumar@yahoo.com (K.Praveen Kumar)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 02:06:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] How to prevent access to Ananymous User?
In-Reply-To: <200303110930.56197.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <20030311100653.17572.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear Thierry FLORAC,
     If I do what you said then It is popup a Screen asking
for login and password. It is taking anything you enter and
logging in as "Anonimous User". If you require I'll send
you the URL of the site where you can understand the
problem and help me out.
     My problem is While accessing the web pages. Not in
the Zope directories. If I use "ex User Folder" for
authentication it will create a "acl_user" folder. If we
are attempting to access the directory (Where we have
created acl_user folder) that will redirect to the Login
Page. After Logging in only it'll agsin redirect to the
Home page.
      In my case it is not happening. It is directly taking
the user as "Anonimous User" and showing up. How should I
get that.
--- Thierry FLORAC <thierry.florac@onf.fr> wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 05:51, K.Praveen Kumar wrote:
> > Hi,
> >   I'ld like to build a web site with Authentication.
> I'm
> > using "ex User Folder"  to create authentication. I'm
> using
> > MySQL and Cookie based authentication. When I access
> the
> > page It still logging in as "Anonymous User",(I think
> it
> > should redirect to the login page). If I go to the
> login
> > page manually and logging in with username and password
> > it's working fine. Please suggest me how to prevent
> > "Anonymous User" from viewing the pages.
> > I'll be really looking forward for your reply.
> 
> Just remove 'View' and 'Access contents information'
> permissions to the 
> 'Anonymous' role on the folder which is at your site
> root.
> 
> Thierry


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From maxm@mxm.dk  Tue Mar 11 10:32:39 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:32:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <3E6D044E.5650.22B1F3@localhost>
References: <3E6D044E.5650.22B1F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E6DBB47.7020509@mxm.dk>

hpinson@indepthl.com wrote:

>Just tested, and the same 4.6 mb mp3 file uploads via FTP to a remote 
>file system at ~253kbps in 3.01 minutes via my low-end DSL.
>
>The zope file object upload has been spinning for over an hour now.
>
>I know I can link to this from the file system-- i'm just trying to 
>understand what seems an odd behavior, which I've seen occasionally 
>before with large file objects going into Zope, -- I'm not really 
>looking for a workaround.
>

You are certain that you use a POST method, and not a GET?

I could imagine that a GET method combined with a file upload could 
wreck havoc to a given server/browser combo.

Naturally, if you are just doing a standard file upload in Zope it 
should be correct.

Have you tried to upload smaller files, and see at which point you get 
into trouble?

There should be no problem in oploading a file of that size to Zope.


regards Max M



From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Tue Mar 11 10:47:28 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:47:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to prevent access to Ananymous User?
In-Reply-To: <20030311100653.17572.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030311100653.17572.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200303111147.28026.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 11:06, K.Praveen Kumar wrote:
> Dear Thierry FLORAC,
>      If I do what you said then It is popup a Screen asking
> for login and password. It is taking anything you enter and
> logging in as "Anonimous User". If you require I'll send
> you the URL of the site where you can understand the
> problem and help me out.
>      My problem is While accessing the web pages. Not in
> the Zope directories. If I use "ex User Folder" for
> authentication it will create a "acl_user" folder. If we
> are attempting to access the directory (Where we have
> created acl_user folder) that will redirect to the Login
> Page. After Logging in only it'll agsin redirect to the
> Home page.
>       In my case it is not happening. It is directly taking
> the user as "Anonimous User" and showing up. How should I
> get that.

A correct acl_user folder have to be defined at the root of your site for 
authentication to work correctly. And if your user folder allows you to login 
with any authentication username/password, you may have something 
misconfigured.
What can also occur when you restrict access on only a few number of pages, is 
that :
 - after the first required authentication on login page, some browsers will 
continue to provide authentication parameters, even on public pages
 - but some of them will only provide the same authentication parameters on 
protected pages.
To handle such things and follow user's session correctly, you have to 
remember authentication parameters and use cookies and session machinery...

Thierry


From lewicki@provider.pl  Tue Mar 11 10:46:07 2003
From: lewicki@provider.pl (Pawel Lewicki)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:46:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: LDAPUserFolder 1.2b2 + Zope 2.6.1 + Windows
References: <b4h031$sig$1@main.gmane.org> <15981.457.250671.792397@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <b4kf4l$ekf$1@main.gmane.org>

> Pawel Lewicki wrote at 2003-3-10 04:17 +0100:
>  > I try to install the following product and I get the error message:
>  >
>  >  import ldap
>  > ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initldap)
>  >
>  > Does anyone know what it means?
>
> Seems you have an "ldap" dll which does not define the
> python-ldap adapter: it lacks the initialization function.
> Any Python extension dll must define an initialization function.
>
>
> Dieter

OK, I missed dowloading ldap.py

Pawel





From Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de  Tue Mar 11 11:01:00 2003
From: Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de (Calvo, Luis)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:01:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user
Message-ID: <0287F73B115DD311948A009027991385030B4266@eegexch.epson-electronics.de>

Hello all,

I'm new in the list. I am trying to connect Zope with an ODBC connection
with my W2000. The windows Connection works, but not in Zope. We don't use
users to connect, only logins. Is that the problem? How can I solve it?

Thanks.
Luis.


From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Mar 11 11:11:19 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:11:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
In-Reply-To: <3E6D96CE.50704@icare.com.hk>
References: <3E6CBBA7.3030603@icare.com.hk> <3E6CCEA9.9080601@regebro.nu> <3E6D96CE.50704@icare.com.hk>
Message-ID: <3E6DC457.6010706@regebro.nu>

Stephen Liu wrote:
> Maybe 
> I create some script with "python" to glue all mentioned applications. 
> But I am now searching whether there is a more simple and 
> straight-forward solution.

No, doing this with Zope so it's really useful demands you to "glue" 
together not the applications, but the API's. You need the minimum of 
functionality that when you upload a scanned image it OCR's it and 
indexes the text for searching.

It's not hard to do if you know how to develop for Zope and have an OCR 
API. But knowing how to develop for Zope is a big hurdle.

> I have been running PaperPort/PageKeeper/OmniPage/Pagis for years.  They 
> work fine on Windows.  But I am searching for a similar application from 
> OpenSource to run on Linux

Well, Zope is not that application. Zope is rather a development 
platform where you can DEVELOP such an application, but unless you need 
it to be web-based, it's probably not the right platform. If you need it 
to be web-based it's an excellent platform, but you still need Zope 
development skills.



From zanton@axystem.com  Tue Mar 11 11:32:13 2003
From: zanton@axystem.com (Anton Zubenko)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:32:13 +0200
Subject: [Zope] possible ways to define roles permissions?
Message-ID: <E18shzX-000516-00@anton.intra>

Hi all,need your advise.

my application requires a few custom roles, one of which tends to have all 
the default Zope permissions, except for View managemen Screens. 
Is there any way to do it, other than creating a long list as a parameter 
passed to manage_role api call?

thanks for your help


From ALuton@rcseng.ac.uk  Tue Mar 11 11:25:05 2003
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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:25:05 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book and stx
Message-ID: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>

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From ra019837@ic.unicamp.br  Tue Mar 11 11:33:51 2003
From: ra019837@ic.unicamp.br (Leonardo Fernandes)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:33:51 -0300
Subject: [Zope] REQUEST.SESSION
Message-ID: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br>

Hello again,

First:
Is there a way to prevent access to files in the server (pdf files, for 
instance). I intend to use sessions (REQUEST.SESSION) to control that. 
Is it possible? If not, what's the better option in this case? 
AccessRules also don't seem to work.

Second:
I'd like to use Session (REQUEST.SESSION) data as a parameter to another 
method (a Zsql Method for example). How can I do that in dtml? 
<dtml-with SESSION mapping> doesn't work. I guess I should use 
getSessionDataByKey, but I didn't figure out exactaly how.

Can anyone help me?
Thank you very much.



From guido@python.org  Tue Mar 11 12:03:50 2003
From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:03:50 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: "Your message of Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:42:29 PST."
 <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net> <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james>
 <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <200303111203.h2BC3oM09769@pcp02138704pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net>

> The point I'm trying to make is that Zope has learned nothing from the
> UNIX philosophy.  Yes, you can extend the config schema.  You can grow
> new, better config files, of extraordinary magnitude.  The
> all-powerful server will grow from being all-powerful to being
> all-powerful + n.  It will be able to read mail.  Its heralds shall
> sit upon mountain high throwns hewn of the finest O'Reilly and New
> Riders scripture.  But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
> mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
> affecting the HTTP server.
> 
> Fracture the server infrastructure into small, seperate processes.
> The configuration of the individual pieces becomes trivial.  The
> understanding of the overall data flow improves.  When there's nothing
> left to remove from code, you've won.  Some of the breaks have already
> been made, like the separation of the storage from its front-end.
> Thats good, we need more action along those lines.

You're barking up the wrong tree.  Zope 2 won't change.  Zope 3 is
still in a state of flux, and that's where you should aim your
speech.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)


From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Mar 11 12:17:51 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:17:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <b4kjoh$is$1@main.gmane.org>

Luton, Alex wrote:
> I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
> user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
> can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
> product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?

Have a look at:

http://backtalk.sourceforge.net/

-mj




From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Mar 11 12:22:21 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:22:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user
In-Reply-To: <0287F73B115DD311948A009027991385030B4266@eegexch.epson-electronics.de>
References: <0287F73B115DD311948A009027991385030B4266@eegexch.epson-electronics.de>
Message-ID: <b4kk10$20c$1@main.gmane.org>

I don't understand what you want to do...

Calvo, Luis wrote:
> I'm new in the list. I am trying to connect Zope with an ODBC connection
> with my W2000.

Do you want to connect to the ZODB (Zope Object Database) via ODBC? I 
don't think that a ZODB-ODBC-Driver exists... Or do you want to connect 
to an external database via ODBC from Zope?

> The windows Connection works, but not in Zope. We don't use
> users to connect, only logins. Is that the problem? How can I solve it?

What does that mean? What's the difference between users and logins in 
your case?

-mj




From gotcha@swing.be  Tue Mar 11 12:12:27 2003
From: gotcha@swing.be (Godefroid Chapelle)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:12:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <b4kjkk$vk2$1@main.gmane.org>

Luton, Alex wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
> user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
> can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
> product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --
> 
> Alex

The product is called BackTalk : http://backtalk.sourceforge.net/




From steve@cat-box.net  Tue Mar 11 12:06:30 2003
From: steve@cat-box.net (Steve Alexander)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:06:30 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net> <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james> <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <3E6DD146.2050803@cat-box.net>

 > But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
> mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
> affecting the HTTP server.

You can do this with Zope. Just use ZEO and run one ZEO front-end for 
HTTP and one for FTP.

--
Steve Alexander



From Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de  Tue Mar 11 12:23:32 2003
From: Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de (Calvo, Luis)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:23:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user
Message-ID: <0287F73B115DD311948A009027991385030B4267@eegexch.epson-electronics.de>

I have a DB in a Unix server and my Zope server in a W2000. I try to connect
them. I have created  the ODBC connection in my W2000 server with my DB and
it works with access and so on. But I can't use it in the Zope server. I
install in Zope the ZODBC but when I create a ZODBC connection it does not
work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maik Jablonski [mailto:maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de]
Sent: 11 March 2003 04:22
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user


I don't understand what you want to do...

Calvo, Luis wrote:
> I'm new in the list. I am trying to connect Zope with an ODBC connection
> with my W2000.

Do you want to connect to the ZODB (Zope Object Database) via ODBC? I 
don't think that a ZODB-ODBC-Driver exists... Or do you want to connect 
to an external database via ODBC from Zope?

> The windows Connection works, but not in Zope. We don't use
> users to connect, only logins. Is that the problem? How can I solve it?

What does that mean? What's the difference between users and logins in 
your case?

-mj



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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Mar 11 12:29:23 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:29:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: REQUEST.SESSION
In-Reply-To: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br>
References: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <b4kke6$3do$1@main.gmane.org>

Leonardo Fernandes wrote:
> Is there a way to prevent access to files in the server (pdf files, for 
> instance). I intend to use sessions (REQUEST.SESSION) to control that. 
> Is it possible? If not, what's the better option in this case? 
> AccessRules also don't seem to work.

You should remove the 'View'-Right for Anonymous and only admit it to a 
special role. This can be done easily with a script...

> I'd like to use Session (REQUEST.SESSION) data as a parameter to another 
> method (a Zsql Method for example). How can I do that in dtml? 
> <dtml-with SESSION mapping> doesn't work. I guess I should use 
> getSessionDataByKey, but I didn't figure out exactaly how.

<dtml-call "REQUEST.SESSION.set('test','hello world')">
<dtml-var "SESSION.get('test')">

-mj




From florian.konnertz@web.de  Tue Mar 11 13:54:13 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:54:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
Message-ID: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>

Hi!

I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16


http://openspirit.homelinux.net/

Traceback (innermost last):
   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
   Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
   Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
KeyError: ZopeTime


This line causes the error:
<dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="aCommon">

-----

http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker

Traceback (innermost last):

     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
     * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 220, in __call__
     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 232, in _render
     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 415, in 
render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
     * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 131, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
     * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 705, in renderwob
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 75, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
       __traceback_info__: _
     * Module <string>, line 2, in f

NameError: global name 'ZopeTime' is not defined


I tried some debugging:
I used the profiler the first time, so i don't know if the cumtime of 
Publish.py is exceptional, but it seems to me as if it is.

    ncalls  tottime  percall  cumtime  percall filename:lineno(function)
        60    0.020    0.000   14.570    0.243 profile:0()
        60    0.010    0.000   14.550    0.242 
Publish.py:134(publish_module)
        60    0.000    0.000   14.550    0.242 Publish.py:304(pm)
        60    0.060    0.001   14.360    0.239 Publish.py:49(publish)
        58    0.010    0.000   13.050    0.225 mapply.py:32(mapply)
        58    0.000    0.000   13.030    0.225 Publish.py:38(call_object)
...

I noted some links i found here:
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/zope/ZopeTime


I have a test instance with same config and content and it has no 
problems... strange :-/



Do you have any ideas? So don't hesitate to tell me! :-)


best regards,
Florian


-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar 11 12:43:24 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:43:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>
Message-ID: <421734051.1047390204@[192.168.0.2]>


--On Dienstag, 11. M=E4rz 2003 14:54 +0100 Florian Konnertz=20
<florian.konnertz@web.de> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
> Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
>
>
> http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
>    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
> KeyError: ZopeTime
>
>
> This line causes the error:
> <dtml-var ZopeTime fmt=3D"aCommon">
>

Take a look at the the parameters that can be passed to time.strftime().
aCommon is invalid.

-aj


From Metin.Deniz@commerzbankib.com  Tue Mar 11 13:03:03 2003
From: Metin.Deniz@commerzbankib.com (Deniz, Metin)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:03:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem uploading pdf file via localfs
Message-ID: <4D445EA25BABD411B7B800508BAF0AB704FBC0EA@xmx8fraib.fra.ib.commerzbank.com>

Hi everybody,

I hope you are the right people to address my question. If not, please tell
me who might help me with the following question:


I am trying to upload a pdf file via a localfs object. Unfortunatelly I am
getting a blank page to see within ms-ie.

This is the code I am using:

<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<a href="pdffiles/deutschA.pdf" type="application/pdf"> upload </a><br>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>


Thanks in advance,


Metin Deniz


From jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com  Tue Mar 11 13:11:34 2003
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com (jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:11:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user
Message-ID: <71650A6F73F1D411BE8000805F65E3CB3B3147@SRV-03>

OK- I'll guess your DSN isn't formatted right. Remember that the DSN string
gets passed to the server as-is and is processed there. Depending on what
sort of database you are connecting to I have seen DSN's that look like
this:

	DSN=foo;USR=bar;PWD=baz
or
	foo/bar/baz
or 
	foo;bar;baz
etc.

What database are you using?



-----Original Message-----
From: Calvo, Luis [mailto:Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:24 AM
To: 'Maik Jablonski'; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user


I have a DB in a Unix server and my Zope server in a W2000. I try to connect
them. I have created  the ODBC connection in my W2000 server with my DB and
it works with access and so on. But I can't use it in the Zope server. I
install in Zope the ZODBC but when I create a ZODBC connection it does not
work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maik Jablonski [mailto:maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de]
Sent: 11 March 2003 04:22
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user


I don't understand what you want to do...

Calvo, Luis wrote:
> I'm new in the list. I am trying to connect Zope with an ODBC connection
> with my W2000.

Do you want to connect to the ZODB (Zope Object Database) via ODBC? I 
don't think that a ZODB-ODBC-Driver exists... Or do you want to connect 
to an external database via ODBC from Zope?

> The windows Connection works, but not in Zope. We don't use
> users to connect, only logins. Is that the problem? How can I solve it?

What does that mean? What's the difference between users and logins in 
your case?

-mj



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From ra019837@ic.unicamp.br  Tue Mar 11 13:11:50 2003
From: ra019837@ic.unicamp.br (Leonardo Fernandes)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:50 -0300
Subject: [Zope] Re: REQUEST.SESSION
References: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br> <b4kke6$3do$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E6DE096.6090802@ic.unicamp.br>

>
>
>> Is there a way to prevent access to files in the server (pdf files, 
>> for instance). I intend to use sessions (REQUEST.SESSION) to control 
>> that. Is it possible? If not, what's the better option in this case? 
>> AccessRules also don't seem to work.
>
>
> You should remove the 'View'-Right for Anonymous and only admit it to 
> a special role. This can be done easily with a script...

I'm using postgresql to store my users data (not acl_users folders) can 
I define roles to users registered this way and logged through 
REQUEST.SESSION?

>> I'd like to use Session (REQUEST.SESSION) data as a parameter to 
>> another method (a Zsql Method for example). How can I do that in 
>> dtml? <dtml-with SESSION mapping> doesn't work. I guess I should use 
>> getSessionDataByKey, but I didn't figure out exactaly how.
>
>
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.SESSION.set('test','hello world')">
> <dtml-var "SESSION.get('test')"> 

Yes, that prints "hello world", but how do I send "hello world" (assign 
it to a variable) to a ZSQL Method as a parameter?

Thank you.



From htan@gmx.de  Tue Mar 11 13:37:43 2003
From: htan@gmx.de (Heri)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:37:43 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
Message-ID: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2E816.730ECEB0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I'm starting to develop a zope products and I'm still confused on how to =
use ZODB.

My current application development is using RDBMS concept such as =
following samples:

employee table:
Row   First Name     Last Name  Age
=3D=3D=3D   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =
 =3D=3D=3D
1     Bob                  McBob         42
2     John                Johnson        24
3     Steve              Smith             38



- I can easily perform SQL statement to lookup for some information such =
as, total employee, who are above 30 years old, and who has the Lastname =
of 'Smith'.
- I can easily retrieve information from multiple tables and combine it =
as data objects.

But how can I do this in ZODB?

I was looking at =
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html
but it just tell me briefly how to store objects and simple retrieval.
I need to do complex queries or perform some transaction.

Can anyone help me the way to query data in ZODB?

thanks,
Heri
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above 30 years old, and who has the Lastname of 'Smith'.</FONT></DIV>
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ZODB?</FONT></DIV>
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store objects=20
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From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Tue Mar 11 13:43:37 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:43:37 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <200303111543.37187.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:37, Heri wrote:
> But how can I do this in ZODB?
If you have complicated structure, RDBMS is probably much better (and more 
safe) choise than ZODB.

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

Remember the... the... uhh.....



From gotcha@swing.be  Tue Mar 11 13:47:25 2003
From: gotcha@swing.be (Godefroid Chapelle)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:47:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <b4kp6l$mpg$1@main.gmane.org>

Heri wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I'm starting to develop a zope products and I'm still confused on how to 
> use ZODB.
>  
> My current application development is using RDBMS concept such as 
> following samples:
>  
> employee table:
> Row   First Name     Last Name  Age
> ===   ==========   =========  ===
> 1     Bob                  McBob         42
> 2     John                Johnson        24
> 3     Steve              Smith             38
>  
>  
> - I can easily perform SQL statement to lookup for some information such 
> as, total employee, who are above 30 years old, and who has the Lastname 
> of 'Smith'.
> - I can easily retrieve information from multiple tables and combine it 
> as data objects.
>  
> But how can I do this in ZODB?
>  
> I was looking at 
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/index_html
> but it just tell me briefly how to store objects and simple retrieval.
> I need to do complex queries or perform some transaction.
>  
> Can anyone help me the way to query data in ZODB?
>  
> thanks,
> Heri
ZODB has no query language.
But by using ZCatalog indexing mechanism and coupling it to Python code, 
you can write your own queries for data stored in ZODB.

Please others, correct my wording where incomplete/incorrect




From praveenkkumar@yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 14:00:48 2003
From: praveenkkumar@yahoo.com (K.Praveen Kumar)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:00:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Authentication using ex User Folder problems
Message-ID: <20030311140048.49651.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
   I'm new to Zope. I built a web site using Zope. Now I'ld
like to use authentication to access those pages. I used ex
User Folder to create authentication module. I did in this
way:

I selected "MySQL Authentication Source" for Authentication
Sorce, "MySQL Properties Source" for Property Source and
"Null Membership Source" for Membership Source.

I've created MySQL databases called passwd and userinfo.
Here I did not getting any problems.

I only getting problem when I visited the home page of the
created web site. It is not asking for the authentication
instead It is logging in as "Anonymous User".

If I use the Login page URL It is redirecting to the Home
page after succesful authentication.

It has to redirect to the Login page if the user is already
logged in. How can I do that? Please suggest me.

Thanks in advance.
Praveen

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From htan@gmx.de  Tue Mar 11 14:10:36 2003
From: htan@gmx.de (Heri)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:10:36 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN> <200303111543.37187.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <002a01c2e7d7$fec31d60$4664a8c0@HTAN>

But by using RDBMS this would mean, I can use only 1 product type for entire
zope instance?
Unlike ZODB I can create multiple instances of the a product (in different
folder) and the instances don't conflict with each other?


regards,
Heri



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bo M. Maryniuck" <b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
To: "Heri" <htan@gmx.de>; <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?


> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:37, Heri wrote:
> > But how can I do this in ZODB?
> If you have complicated structure, RDBMS is probably much better (and more
> safe) choise than ZODB.
>
> --
> Regards, Bogdan
>
> Remember the... the... uhh.....
>
>




From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Tue Mar 11 14:31:56 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:31:56 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <b4kp6l$mpg$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN> <b4kp6l$mpg$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200303111631.56191.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:47, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
> ZODB has no query language.

http://213.133.101.80:8080/iuveno/Products/ZOQLMethod

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

The reason computer chips are so small is that computers don't eat much.



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Mar 11 14:31:46 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:31:46 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Get Access to Object from its record in the ZCatalog
References: <3E67CBE9.7D44068C@uleth.ca>	 <1047018362.4948.79.camel@localhost.localdomain>	 <3E6C9E27.2080208@nipltd.com> <1047351169.20486.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E6DF352.2070006@nipltd.com>

Edward Muller wrote:
> Honestly, I don't remember why. Looking back at when I did the code ...
> It was probably because I didn't know about .getPath()
> 
> There are times when, while I don't think they are the end all - be all
> of docs, I really want a javadoc equivalent for python ... And a
> complete set of them for the classes in zope.

Such tools exist, check the mailing list archives...

cheers,

Chris



From florian.konnertz@web.de  Tue Mar 11 15:53:01 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:53:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <421734051.1047390204@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de> <421734051.1047390204@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <3E6E065D.6030009@web.de>

Andreas Jung wrote:
> 
> 
> --On Dienstag, 11. März 2003 14:54 +0100 Florian Konnertz 
> <florian.konnertz@web.de> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
>> Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
>>
>>
>> http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
>>
>> Traceback (innermost last):
>>    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>>    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>>    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>>    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>>    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
>> KeyError: ZopeTime
>>
>>
>> This line causes the error:
>> <dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="aCommon">
>>
> 
> Take a look at the the parameters that can be passed to time.strftime().
> aCommon is invalid.
Hmmm... But why does it work on my testserver?

Florian


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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Mar 11 14:39:31 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:39:31 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Create User in DTML question
References: <OPEIJACAAGFGEIEKLNPGGEIBCEAA.mstein@egrad.com>
Message-ID: <3E6DF523.6000704@nipltd.com>

Marc Stein wrote:
> well-advised.  Is there a way to execute the manage_users method as a
> Manager from within a DTML method?

Use a python script.

> object?  Is their a way to override the username/password dialog so that it
> asks for "email address" and "password" instead of "name" and "password".

No. This is decided by the web browser, not you...

cheers,

Chris



From gotcha@swing.be  Tue Mar 11 14:43:21 2003
From: gotcha@swing.be (Godefroid Chapelle)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:43:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <200303111631.56191.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN> <b4kp6l$mpg$1@main.gmane.org> <200303111631.56191.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <b4ksfg$6th$1@main.gmane.org>

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:47, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
> 
>>ZODB has no query language.
> 
> 
> http://213.133.101.80:8080/iuveno/Products/ZOQLMethod
> 
Seeing that it has not been maintained from January 2001 makes me feel 
prudent... but I never used it.




From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 14:48:27 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 09:48:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047360287.20063.57.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <1047352435.20485.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <1047354451.1423.91.camel@james>
 <1047360287.20063.57.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1047394107.1419.12.camel@james>

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 00:24, Edward Muller wrote:
> Once zope is installed in /opt/zope-2.7.0 can it be moved without
> damaging the install .... say to
> /home/virtual/some.host.name/opt/zope-2.7.0 ?

Yes.  Its location is only meaningful to the instance files that need to
find it.

> In our hosting setup some things get run in a chroot, some things
> can't...
> 
> Currently zope get's installed in a chroot environment for anyone who
> wants a zope install. It must be a complete install since when the user
> restarts it he will be in his chroot environment.
> 
> So I'd ideally like to install zope in a way where all of the core of
> zope is in one place ... say ... /opt/zope/<version #> (/opt/zope/2.7.0,
> /opt/zope/2.7.1, etc...)
> 
> This I can hardlink/symlink into each chroot and make permissions 755
> root/root.

I think this will work.  The only thing that might be a little weird is
tracebacks generated by pyc files, as they may report the filenames of
the Python modules where they were originally installed, instead of
where they live now.  There is some contention about whether this
happens under Python 2.2, but I know it's true for Python 2.1 and prior.


> >From there I would like to be able to install an 'instance', which is
> ... in my case meaning the data.fs, /Products directory, log files, etc,
> etc. The stuff that make this users instance theirs. When the install is
> happening, the script executing it would most likely be outside of the
> chroot ... but I guess it could be configured to chroot as well..

You would need to chroot the run of makeinstance currently as it encodes
paths to software within the instance files that start Zope.  So if you
ran it outside the chroot it would work, but when the user logged in to
the chroot, the paths to the software would be wrong.

I think this might be made configurable with a switch to mkzopeinstance
(--sw_location=/some/path), though.  I will add this to the tentative
TODO, thanks.

> I already have start/stop scripts to go through the users that have a
> zope install and chroot into that users 'host' and then start zope as
> that 'hosts' administrative user.

These scripts will unfortunately need to change for Zope 2.7 unless we
create some sort of backwards compatibilty layer for startup.

- C




From Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de  Tue Mar 11 14:30:01 2003
From: Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de (Calvo, Luis)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:30:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user
Message-ID: <0287F73B115DD311948A009027991385030B426D@eegexch.epson-electronics.de>

It is a progress DB. But if my ODBC conexion works with access and VBasic it
must be ok, isn't it? What should I put in ZOpe in the connection string?

-----Original Message-----
From: jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com
[mailto:jwsacksteder@ramprecision.com]
Sent: 11 March 2003 05:12
To: Calvo, Luis; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user


OK- I'll guess your DSN isn't formatted right. Remember that the DSN string
gets passed to the server as-is and is processed there. Depending on what
sort of database you are connecting to I have seen DSN's that look like
this:

	DSN=foo;USR=bar;PWD=baz
or
	foo/bar/baz
or 
	foo;bar;baz
etc.

What database are you using?



-----Original Message-----
From: Calvo, Luis [mailto:Luis.Calvo@epson-electronics.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:24 AM
To: 'Maik Jablonski'; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user


I have a DB in a Unix server and my Zope server in a W2000. I try to connect
them. I have created  the ODBC connection in my W2000 server with my DB and
it works with access and so on. But I can't use it in the Zope server. I
install in Zope the ZODBC but when I create a ZODBC connection it does not
work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maik Jablonski [mailto:maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de]
Sent: 11 March 2003 04:22
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to connect ZODBC with login instead of user


I don't understand what you want to do...

Calvo, Luis wrote:
> I'm new in the list. I am trying to connect Zope with an ODBC connection
> with my W2000.

Do you want to connect to the ZODB (Zope Object Database) via ODBC? I 
don't think that a ZODB-ODBC-Driver exists... Or do you want to connect 
to an external database via ODBC from Zope?

> The windows Connection works, but not in Zope. We don't use
> users to connect, only logins. Is that the problem? How can I solve it?

What does that mean? What's the difference between users and logins in 
your case?

-mj



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From dan@control.com  Tue Mar 11 15:01:53 2003
From: dan@control.com (Dan L. Pierson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:01:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
Message-ID: <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>

We currently rely on two scripts for running our Zopes:

1. A modified version of zctl.py.  I originally got it from a moribund wiki 
on the Zope site.
The main changes we've made have been to better separate parameters for 
Zope clients from
parameters for the ZEO server and to run an additional server of our own 
along side the ZEO
server (a simple distributed RAM Cache invalidation server).

2. A very simple sysv-init script that implements everything by calling the 
correct zctl.py.

It looks like the new install and startup world will be a huge improvement 
over the current
setup on the whole.  I like moving the log files to their own directory.

The things that seemed to be missing from your writeup were:

Almost no mention of ZEO (only one mention of a "zeo client name" 
parameter).  How does
ZEO fit into this?

I don't see an equivalent to "./zctl.py debug" anywhere.  This starts up an 
interactive Python as
a ZEO client with ZServer and Zope imported and app = Zope.app().  I use it 
constantly.  Please?




From js@aixtraware.de  Tue Mar 11 15:06:10 2003
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:06:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Projectmanagement with Zope ?
Message-ID: <3E6DFB62.60703@aixtraware.de>

Hi,

is there  Projectmanagement software built on Zope somewhere ?

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From satimis@icare.com.hk  Tue Mar 11 15:11:25 2003
From: satimis@icare.com.hk (Stephen Liu)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:11:25 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D574@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E6DFC9D.6060209@icare.com.hk>

Hi sean,

Thanks for your advice.

On Linux I can do all jobs separately with the assistance of several 
applications but not in one go.  I am looking for an out-of-the-box 
solution.

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Consider using the CMF, perhaps Plone. http://plone.org

I have been searching for plone.org mailing list on its website but 
could not find it.

> Zope could be a good document management system, in this case, with the
> assistance of automation-capible OCR (like OmniPage automated via COM
> interface).  You would bave to be able to extract text-metadata out of a
> document, so obviously you need a content-type in Zope or the CMF that is
> capable of taking an image and/or PDF file containing raster data, storing
> it, and being able to pass it to an external filter for the acquiring of
> text metadata.  You would just need to write a Zope python product that, for
> example, with the CMF, defined a method called SearchableText() for your
> 'document'/image that served up (potentially cached) text extracted from an
> OCR system.
> 
> You would have to, of course, write an application that fed Zope the scanned
> images in order, or at least uploaded them and set metadata.  There are many
> possible ways to do this (ZEO, XML-RPC, etc).

ZEO, XML-RPC, etc. are new to me.  I will make a search with google later.

> Combining the pages could be done with commercial PDF libraries, including
> PageCatcher, which is a commercial, Python-based PDF aggregation
> library/utility. http://www.reportlab.com/pageCatcher/index.html  There are
> likely open-source solutions to this as well (in the xpdf package?),
> perhaps.

I already solve this problem re page combination.  There are many 
solutions.  Even a word-processing application can do the job.

> So, yes, Zope could do this job, but you would have to write the code (feed
> scans into Zope, CMF content type) needed and pick decorating software
> components (OCR, PDF aggreagation) necessary to do it.

Is there any hint to start


B.Regards
Stephen


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Liu [mailto:satimis@icare.com.hk]
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:22 AM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] Whether Zope can do the job
> 
> 
> Hi all folks,
> 
> I join this list recently and have no idea whether this is right place 
> for posting following question:
> 
> I am searching open source for an alternative similar to PaperPort, 
> Pagis Pro, OmniPage or PageKeeper, applications running on Windows.
> 
> They provide a platform to keep all scanned images which can then be 
> stacked page after page, removing or re-inserting the pages stacked if 
> required.  Finally printing them as a pdf file or other format.
> 
> One more important job is data searching on the scanned images.  On 
> PaperPort you can create a database bank on all scanned images and do 
> data searching.
> 
> Kindly advise whether "zope" can do the same job?  Thanks in advance.
> 
> B.Regards
> Stephen Liu
> 
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From guido@python.org  Tue Mar 11 15:17:08 2003
From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:17:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:01:53 EST."
 <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <200303111517.h2BFHPv23488@odiug.zope.com>

> The things that seemed to be missing from your writeup were:
> 
> Almost no mention of ZEO (only one mention of a "zeo client name"
> parameter).  How does ZEO fit into this?

ZEO client configuration is included in the new configuration schema.

ZEO server configuration has its own schema and tools, also based on
ZConfig and the new zdaemon; you can check these out in the ZODB 3.2
alpha release.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)


From gotcha@swing.be  Tue Mar 11 15:26:36 2003
From: gotcha@swing.be (Godefroid Chapelle)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:26:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Projectmanagement with Zope ?
In-Reply-To: <3E6DFB62.60703@aixtraware.de>
References: <3E6DFB62.60703@aixtraware.de>
Message-ID: <b4kv0j$kka$1@main.gmane.org>

Joachim Schmitz wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there  Projectmanagement software built on Zope somewhere ?
> 
Logilab has some soft based on Plone




From rlfisher@sprynet.com  Tue Mar 11 15:17:24 2003
From: rlfisher@sprynet.com (Roger Fisher)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:17:24 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Pagination
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F184fkkqNj1VOs0005bee5@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <NEBBKNGNEHINDBEKOONHIEPPFIAA.rlfisher@sprynet.com>

There is also a good recipe for this at:
	http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1019946889

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Lee
Harr
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 9:54 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: Pagination


>I'm not sure where to start here, and I'm kind of new to Zope here, but I
>thought I would ask.  How do most ZSQL generated lists get paginated?  I
>haven't seen hardly anything pointing to a way of doing this.  Maybe I'm
>just looking in the wrong area.  I would like to know how to display a list
>of items with a page break that displays page numbers, something similar to
>this:
>(Prev -  1  -  2  -  3  -  Next)
>
>I would appreciate any input on how someone else achieved this.  >Thanks :)
>


You might want to look at my ImagePagerFolder
http://www.zope.org/Members/leeharr/Products/ImagePagerFolder/


It does not get its list from sql, but it might be useful.


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From therp@apriori.de  Tue Mar 11 14:09:52 2003
From: therp@apriori.de (Tobias Herp)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:09:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope running only when started with -D from command line
Message-ID: <b4kqqe$v02$1@main.gmane.org>

Hi,

I have a Win2K (test-) server running two instances of Zope, using 
different installations and the ports 8080 and 6080. Both were installed 
to run as Windows services. However, the 6080 version
(Zope 2.6.1 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), python 2.1.3, 
win32) refuses to run unless called from command line (it has worked 
once upon a time, I think, but I can't tell what changed to disturb 
this). When the service is started, the pid file is in use, but no 
content is served. To Windows it looks like everything would be ok (the 
icons for stopping and restarting the service are active). When I stop 
the service and start Zope from command line, everything is ok.

I even tried to set Z_DEBUG_MODE for the the system to 'yes', but 
restarting the service still didn't work (well, the system didn't reboot 
since then... anyway the environment variables seem to be user specific, 
so they won't work without a logon).

There are no error messages whatsoever visible during Zope start. Where 
can I seek for the problem? Any ideas?

tia,

Tobias
http://www.apriori.de




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar 11 16:04:57 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:04:57 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZServer stops responding
Message-ID: <3E6E0929.4060006@neurobs.com>

Hi,

I have a Apache 2.0 and a ZServer w/ VHM behind it. The Apache uses 
RewriteRules to serve the ZServer content. The problem is every so 
often, the zope server stops responding with a

*Proxy Error *
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / </>/.

Reason: *Error reading from remote server*

Apache/2.0.43 Server at nbs.neuro-bs.com Port 80/
/
and my zope debug log has:

2003-03-10T19:09:03 INFO(0) Z2 Caught signal SIGTERM
------
2003-03-10T19:09:03 INFO(0) Z2 Closing all open ZODB databases
------
2003-03-10T19:09:03 INFO(0) Z2 Shutting down
------
2003-03-10T19:09:03 INFO(0) zdaemon Started subprocess: pid 3382
------
2003-03-10T19:09:05 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting: 
'139321088_1042459884.937236'
------
2003-03-10T19:09:05 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database 
'139321088_1042459884.937236' at /temp_folder
------
2003-03-10T19:09:05 INFO(0) ZServer HTTP server started at Mon Mar 10 
19:09:05 2003
        Hostname: balder.neuro-bs.com
        Port: 8080
------
2003-03-10T19:50:19 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at 
/VirtualHostBase/https/nbs.neuro-bs.com:443/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/secure/ssl_logo 
(1 conflicts since startup at 2003-03-10T19:09:05)

The zope access log has the following:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:42:54 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/ 
HTTP/1.1" 200 10740 "" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:42:54 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/layout/global_css 
HTTP/1.1" 304 312 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; 
MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:42:54 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/presentation_pic 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; 
MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:42:54 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/title_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; 
MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:42:54 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/footer_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; 
MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:02 -0700] "POST 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/util/contact/send_message 
HTTP/1.1" 302 8450 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/util/contact/user?to_id=0&subject=[NBS Forums] 
Re: Timing: backward masking" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; 
Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:03 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/errors/e500?url=http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/util/contact/send_message 
HTTP/1.1" 200 9056 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/util/contact/user?to_id=0&subject=[NBS Forums] 
Re: Timing: backward masking" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; 
Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:04 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/title_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/errors/e500?url=http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/util/contact/send_message" 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:04 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/footer_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/errors/e500?url=http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/util/contact/send_message" 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:07 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/presentation 
HTTP/1.1" 200 12006 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/util/contact/user?to_id=0&subject=[NBS Forums] 
Re: Timing: backward masking" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; 
Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:08 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/title_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/presentation" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:08 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/footer_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/presentation" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:22 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/chatter_box 
HTTP/1.1" 200 25583 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/presentation" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:22 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/title_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:22 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/thumbtack 
HTTP/1.1" 304 311 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:22 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/locked 
HTTP/1.1" 304 311 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:23 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/footer_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:26 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/chatter_box/view_board?id=6 
HTTP/1.1" 200 26942 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:27 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/title_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_board?id=6" 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:27 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/notification_off 
HTTP/1.1" 304 310 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_board?id=6" 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:27 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/spindle 
HTTP/1.1" 304 311 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_board?id=6" 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:27 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/footer_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 "http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_board?id=6" 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488 
HTTP/1.1" 200 29330 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_board?id=6" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/title_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/notification_off 
HTTP/1.1" 304 310 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/down_all 
HTTP/1.1" 304 310 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/thread_nav 
HTTP/1.1" 304 310 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/email 
HTTP/1.1" 304 311 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:31 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/down 
HTTP/1.1" 304 310 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
192.168.10.172  - Anonymous [11/Mar/2003:07:43:32 -0700] "GET 
/VirtualHostBase/http/nbs.neuro-bs.com:80/nbs_online/VirtualHostRoot/images/footer_bg 
HTTP/1.1" 304 313 
"http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/chatter_box/view_thread?id=488" "Mozilla/4.0 
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The zope process seems to be still there, but only a restart fixes the 
problem.

Any ideas as to what is going wrong??

Thanks.
AM

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==================================================================
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From evan@4-am.com  Tue Mar 11 16:12:34 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:12:34 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Stupid ZPT/Product Question
In-Reply-To: <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>
References: <1047362444.20063.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <3E6E0AF2.3050708@4-am.com>

Max M wrote:
>> In a class of my product I declare the following...
>>
>> index_html = PageTemplateFile('www/Customer/index_html', globals())
>>
>> What path would I use to display the id of my object in that index_html?

> <span tal:replace="here/id"/>

That will work, but in general you should use 'container' when referring 
to attributes of your object:

<span tal:replace="container/id" />

'here' allows for acquisition, which you probably don't want in this case.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am



From evan@4-am.com  Tue Mar 11 16:12:34 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:12:34 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Stupid ZPT/Product Question
In-Reply-To: <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>
References: <1047362444.20063.60.camel@localhost.localdomain> <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <3E6E0AF2.3050708@4-am.com>

Max M wrote:
>> In a class of my product I declare the following...
>>
>> index_html = PageTemplateFile('www/Customer/index_html', globals())
>>
>> What path would I use to display the id of my object in that index_html?

> <span tal:replace="here/id"/>

That will work, but in general you should use 'container' when referring 
to attributes of your object:

<span tal:replace="container/id" />

'here' allows for acquisition, which you probably don't want in this case.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am




From hpinson@indepthl.com  Tue Mar 11 16:23:43 2003
From: hpinson@indepthl.com (hpinson@indepthl.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:23:43 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <3E6DBB47.7020509@mxm.dk>
References: <3E6D044E.5650.22B1F3@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E6DAB1F.8315.2AE5153@localhost>

> You are certain that you use a POST method, and not a GET?

>From Zope's object menu, i'm selecting "File", typing an ID and 
Title, browsing to the .mp3 file on the local disk, and clicking 
"Add".  This seems to be a POST operation (?).

> Have you tried to upload smaller files, and see at which point you > get into trouble?

That's a good point-- is there a file size where this starts to 
happen.  I'll test this next, as well as see if I can repeat the 
behavior on Zope 2.5

Thanks for the suggestion!

Harlow Pinson
Indepth Learning
Email: hpinson@indepthl.com 
Web: http://www.indepthl.com
Voice: 505-994-2135
FAX: 208-475-7678



From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 16:29:56 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 11:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <1047400197.1421.19.camel@james>

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 10:01, Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> The things that seemed to be missing from your writeup were:
> 
> Almost no mention of ZEO (only one mention of a "zeo client name" 
> parameter).  How does
> ZEO fit into this?

Configuration parameters are available for the ZEO ClientStorage storage
within the config file.

> I don't see an equivalent to "./zctl.py debug" anywhere.  This starts up an 
> interactive Python as
> a ZEO client with ZServer and Zope imported and app = Zope.app().  I use it 
> constantly.  Please?

Yes, I do too!  ;-) Good catch.  I've added this to the TODO...

Thanks,

- C




From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Tue Mar 11 16:49:10 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:49:10 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
In-Reply-To: <20030310213931.GB13052@slinkp.com>
References: <20030310153318.E18421@qcc.sk.ca> <20030310213931.GB13052@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <3E6E1386.2040704@icantbelieveididthat.com>

Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:33:18PM -0600, Michael R. Schwab wrote:

(snip)

>>The second method seems to be the newest and most logical approach.
>>The being exception that the default security access to 'deny' does
>>not permit me to access attributes from my class that are basic Python
>>types such as strings (e.g. meta_type from a DTML Method).  I could
>>declare the default security access to 'allow', but that seems
>>inherently dangerous from a security standpoint.
> 
> I think what you're looking for is
> __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1

Having dug a little further into the bowels of Zope, I don't believe 
that this will work, even if I had wanted to use it.

Setting __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ to 1 would be 
overridden by Globals.InitializeClass.

In Globals.InitializeClass, there is a check to determine what the 
default access policy is set to ('allow' or 'deny' via the 
security.setDefaultAccess() call).  If the default access has been set, 
__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ is assigned the value of 
default access ('deny' == 0 and 'allow' == 1).

Am I off the mark here?

> or, just make declarations on specific attributes:
> 
> security.declarePublic('meta_type')
> self.meta_type = "blah"

Thanks,
Michael



From IGOR@emun.com  Tue Mar 11 16:54:07 2003
From: IGOR@emun.com (Igor Leturia)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:54:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Creating a LocalContent object from a Python script
Message-ID: <0C4BCA0F254FD24D841A296F62878BF41EAF28@www.emun.com>

  Hi!

  I need to create a LocalContent object from within a Python script,
and I don't know how to do it. I think the function to be called is
manage_addLocalContent, and I try it as if I were adding a file
(context.manage_addLocalContent(id, title, languages)) but it says the
function does not exist.

  Any ideas?

    Igor Leturia


From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Tue Mar 11 16:59:49 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:59:49 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <b4ksfg$6th$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN> <200303111631.56191.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <b4ksfg$6th$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200303111859.49917.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 16:43, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
> Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 March 2003 15:47, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
> >>ZODB has no query language.
> >
> > http://213.133.101.80:8080/iuveno/Products/ZOQLMethod
>
> Seeing that it has not been maintained from January 2001 makes me feel
> prudent... but I never used it.

It's because probably bug-free... ;-)

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

Favorite MS-DOS error message: "Drive C: not ready, close door."



From ruger@comnett.net  Tue Mar 11 17:03:12 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 09:03:12 -0800
Subject: [Zope] result
Message-ID: <1047402193.3883.1.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

What's the syntax for building a 'result' variable such as that that is
returned by an SQL query?

TIA

Rick







From edwardam@interlix.com  Tue Mar 11 17:18:47 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 11:18:47 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Stupid ZPT/Product Question
In-Reply-To: <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>
References: <1047362444.20063.60.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <3E6D8A16.9080802@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <1047403127.4762.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I tried that, but it didn't work. Then I realized (after a nights sleep)
that I hadn't set self.id in the class. 

Thanks.

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 01:02, Max M wrote:
> Edward Muller wrote:
> 
> >In a class of my product I declare the following...
> >
> >index_html = PageTemplateFile('www/Customer/index_html', globals())
> >
> >What path would I use to display the id of my object in that index_html?
> >
> ><span tal:replace="?????/id"/>
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> <span tal:replace="here/id"/>
> 
> or 
> 
> <span tal:replace="here/getId"/>
> 
> 
> regards Max M
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From johan30@easynet.be  Tue Mar 11 17:31:50 2003
From: johan30@easynet.be (johan)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:31:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] On debian : problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <1047400197.1421.19.camel@james>
Message-ID: <004001c2e7f4$1cd17240$0200000a@SPIN>

I seem to have a lot of problems with the init.d/zope script, since it
keeps hanging when I do /etc/init.d/zope restart or during boot, which
is pretty painful. 


In the debugging I see : 

2003-03-11T17:48:47 PROBLEM(100) Hotfixes Not applying
Hotfix_2002-06-14.  The f
ix has already been merged into Zope.  Please uninstall the hotfix
product.
------
2003-03-11T17:48:47 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of
Products.Plug
Ins.PlugIns.PlugInGroup: "manage_workspace" != "manage_main"
------
2003-03-11T17:48:47 PROBLEM(100) Init Ambiguous name for method of
Products.Logi
nManager.LoginMethods.BasicCookieLogin: "manage_propertiesForm" !=
"manage_main"
------
2003-03-11T17:48:54 INFO(0) ZODB Opening database for mounting:
'144274512_10460
91853.725337'
------
2003-03-11T17:48:54 INFO(0) ZODB Mounted database
'144274512_1046091853.725337'
at /temp_folder
------
2003-03-11T17:48:54 INFO(0) Zope Default Object Creation
/usr/lib/zope/import/Ex
amples.zexp examples import file could not be found.
------
2003-03-11T17:48:54 INFO(0) Plone:
Active Pak 0.1 and HTMLTALParser patch 1.4 have NOT been applied
(unneeded for Z
ope 2.6+)
------
2003-03-11T17:48:54 PROBLEM(100) Zope No such file or directory:
/usr/lib/zope/l
ib/python/Products/CMFCalendar/help
------
2003-03-11T17:48:56 PROBLEM(100) Zope No such file or directory:
/usr/lib/zope/l
ib/python/Products/LoginManager/help
------
2003-03-11T17:48:57 PROBLEM(100) Zope No such file or directory:
/usr/lib/zope/l
ib/python/Products/PlugIns/help
------
2003-03-11T17:48:57 PROBLEM(100) Zope No such file or directory:
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/ZPatterns/help
------
2003-03-11T17:48:58 INFO(0) ZServer FastCGI Server (V1.0) started at Tue
Mar 11 17:48:58 2003
        IP          :
        Port        : 9673
        Socket path : None


Greetz,
Johan





From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Tue Mar 11 17:33:28 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:33:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <20030311173328.GA15784@slinkp.com>

On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 10:01:53AM -0500, Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> I don't see an equivalent to "./zctl.py debug" anywhere.  This starts up an 
> interactive Python as
> a ZEO client with ZServer and Zope imported and app = Zope.app().  I use it 
> constantly.  Please?

+1.  I also use zctl.py debug nearly every day.

of course it's just a convenience, but it's an important
convenience because nearly every document i can find
on debugging Zope says roughly "...and of course you
can use ZEO, but that's beyond the scope of this article..."

-- 

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http://www.slinkp.com


From florian.konnertz@web.de  Tue Mar 11 19:01:13 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:01:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <421734051.1047390204@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de> <421734051.1047390204@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <3E6E3279.4060806@web.de>

Hi,
sorry if you got this msg twice. I miss my first copy.


Andreas Jung wrote:
> 
> 
> --On Dienstag, 11. März 2003 14:54 +0100 Florian Konnertz 
> <florian.konnertz@web.de> wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
>> Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
>>
>>
>> http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
>>
>> Traceback (innermost last):
>>    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>>    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>>    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>>    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>>    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
>>    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
>> KeyError: ZopeTime
>>
>>
>> This line causes the error:
>> <dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="aCommon">
>>
> 
> Take a look at the the parameters that can be passed to time.strftime().
> aCommon is invalid.
But why does it works on my testserver?
Is this still correct: Zope uses its own DateTime instead of time?

I tried also the newest DateTime.py from cvs, but it had no effect.

BTW,
I have many DocumentTemplate, and strftime related errors now on my site 
and no idea why they suddenly appeared. I moved to a new server and a 
new Zope-2.6.1 yesterday and at first it worked fine.
It drives me mad!! &:-<
But i will solve this problems !!!!
(Thanks for listening!) :-)


Florian


-- 
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http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From zope-dev@zope.org  Tue Mar 11 17:40:14 2003
From: zope-dev@zope.org (Paul Winkler)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:40:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047400197.1421.19.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com> <1047400197.1421.19.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030311174014.GB15784@slinkp.com>

apologies for this cross-post: in case anyone's confused and/or intrigued,
this discussion leaked into zope@zope.org from a discussion
on zope-dev. i've set reply-to back to zope-dev.

On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:29:56AM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 10:01, Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> > The things that seemed to be missing from your writeup were:
> > 
> > Almost no mention of ZEO (only one mention of a "zeo client name" 
> > parameter).  How does
> > ZEO fit into this?
> 
> Configuration parameters are available for the ZEO ClientStorage storage
> within the config file.
> 
> > I don't see an equivalent to "./zctl.py debug" anywhere.  This starts up an 
> > interactive Python as
> > a ZEO client with ZServer and Zope imported and app = Zope.app().  I use it 
> > constantly.  Please?
> 
> Yes, I do too!  ;-) Good catch.  I've added this to the TODO...
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - C
> 
> 
> 
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From jeremy@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 18:45:34 2003
From: jeremy@zope.com (Jeremy Hylton)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 13:45:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
Message-ID: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com>

> I'm not dismissing it, and I think you need to go back and read what I
> wrote again very very carefully without reading anything into it.  I'm
> not trying to imply that using environment variables to configure the
> current codebase will reduce the code footprint.  Even if it did,
> because of the distributed nature of the technique, its damnedly hard
> to maintain in a project as large as Zope.  Also, I didn't say ZConfig
> was 374k of code, I said it was 374k of *work*.   I chose that word
> very carefully, and obviously thats going to err on the side of
> conservatism as certainly the work was not isolated to that single
> directory tree.

I don't know what work means in this context, but think the ZConfig
project is thorough.  In my checkout there are 180k of document, 180k of
unit tests, and 136k of code.  A measure of work that suggests that
something with 0k of documentation and tests and 136k of code would be
better makes no sense to me.

> The point I'm trying to make is that Zope has learned nothing from the
> UNIX philosophy.  Yes, you can extend the config schema.  You can grow

I don't see where the UNIX philosophy has anything useful to say about
configuration, but maybe I'm just a closet unix hater <0.5 wink>.

> new, better config files, of extraordinary magnitude.  The
> all-powerful server will grow from being all-powerful to being
> all-powerful + n.  It will be able to read mail.  Its heralds shall
> sit upon mountain high throwns hewn of the finest O'Reilly and New
> Riders scripture.  But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
> mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
> affecting the HTTP server.

> Fracture the server infrastructure into small, seperate processes.
> The configuration of the individual pieces becomes trivial.  The
> understanding of the overall data flow improves.  When there's nothing
> left to remove from code, you've won.  Some of the breaks have already
> been made, like the separation of the storage from its front-end.
> Thats good, we need more action along those lines.

I don't see that configuration gets any easier if you have multiple
processes.  Even if Zope had N processes, there would still be the same
amount of stuff to configure.  You'd probably still want a single master
config file for the whole thing, and a tool to check the configuration
is valid separate from the process that uses the file to configure
itself.

As I watched everyone working on the ZConfig project, I was impressed
with how many issues are involved in getting a decent configuration
system.  I don't think that break the server into multiple pieces would
make it easier to configure, and I don't see what requirements could
have been eliminated to make the project take less work.

Jeremy






From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Tue Mar 11 18:52:36 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:52:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D58F@desi2>

This is a good question, and I do not know if this is the case, but I have
seen behavior with __allow_access_to_uprotected_subobjects__ that would
suggest that it might be (i.e. it didn't work, and out of frustration, I had
to go about doing security declarations for my helper objects another, more
complicated, way).

This is one place that Zope really makes it difficult to use Python code not
initially written with Zope in mind.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael R. Schwab
[mailto:Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:49 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope product security question


Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:33:18PM -0600, Michael R. Schwab wrote:

(snip)

>>The second method seems to be the newest and most logical approach.
>>The being exception that the default security access to 'deny' does
>>not permit me to access attributes from my class that are basic Python
>>types such as strings (e.g. meta_type from a DTML Method).  I could
>>declare the default security access to 'allow', but that seems
>>inherently dangerous from a security standpoint.
> 
> I think what you're looking for is
> __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1

Having dug a little further into the bowels of Zope, I don't believe 
that this will work, even if I had wanted to use it.

Setting __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ to 1 would be 
overridden by Globals.InitializeClass.

In Globals.InitializeClass, there is a check to determine what the 
default access policy is set to ('allow' or 'deny' via the 
security.setDefaultAccess() call).  If the default access has been set, 
__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ is assigned the value of 
default access ('deny' == 0 and 'allow' == 1).

Am I off the mark here?

> or, just make declarations on specific attributes:
> 
> security.declarePublic('meta_type')
> self.meta_type = "blah"

Thanks,
Michael


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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 19:16:37 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:16:37 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: REQUEST.SESSION
In-Reply-To: <3E6DE096.6090802@ic.unicamp.br>
References: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br> <b4kke6$3do$1@main.gmane.org> <3E6DE096.6090802@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <3E6E3615.7040704@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>> You should remove the 'View'-Right for Anonymous and only admit it to 
>> a special role. This can be done easily with a script...
>
> I'm using postgresql to store my users data (not acl_users folders) 
> can I define roles to users registered this way and logged through 
> REQUEST.SESSION? 


If that relational store of users is represented as a Zope user folder. 
(This can be done quite easily via External User Folder or maybe Simple 
User Folder.) If you're planning on managing security yourself, don't. 
You may have to do that in other app servers, but not in Zope. 
Re-implementing security is a bad thing.

>>> I'd like to use Session (REQUEST.SESSION) data as a parameter to 
>>> another method (a Zsql Method for example). How can I do that in 
>>> dtml? <dtml-with SESSION mapping> doesn't work. I guess I should use 
>>> getSessionDataByKey, but I didn't figure out exactaly how.
>>
>> <dtml-call "REQUEST.SESSION.set('test','hello world')">
>> <dtml-var "SESSION.get('test')"> 
>
> Yes, that prints "hello world", but how do I send "hello world" 
> (assign it to a variable) to a ZSQL Method as a parameter?

SESSION is just an object. Pass it like any other parameter.

With a number: <dtml-call "someZSQLMethod(someParameter=9)">
With an object: <dtml-call 
"someZSQLMethod(sessionParameter=REQUEST.SESSION)">

I might say that you could be better off breaking out what you need from 
SESSION before passing it in.

<dtml-call "someZSQLMethod(parameterA=REQUEST.SESSION.get('A'), 
parameterB=REQUEST.SESSION.get('B'))">

          --jcc



From rhires@earthlink.net  Tue Mar 11 19:16:10 2003
From: rhires@earthlink.net (Russell Hires)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:16:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] secure ftp
Message-ID: <E18spEV-0006ZT-00@localhost>

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Hello All...

Is Zope configured (or can it be) to run with secure ftp? I haven't seen any 
docs that deal with that. Or, is there some other way to be secure and yet 
not go through the web?

Thanks for any info...

Russell
- -- 
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From dan@control.com  Tue Mar 11 19:26:27 2003
From: dan@control.com (Dan L. Pierson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:26:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <200303111517.h2BFHPv23488@odiug.zope.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
 <200303111517.h2BFHPv23488@odiug.zope.com>
Message-ID: <230850000.1047410786@daystar.control.com>

--On Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:17:08 AM -0500 Guido van Rossum 
<guido@python.org> wrote:
> ZEO client configuration is included in the new configuration schema.
>
> ZEO server configuration has its own schema and tools, also based on
> ZConfig and the new zdaemon; you can check these out in the ZODB 3.2
> alpha release.

Does this mean that Zope 2.7 will require ZODB 3.2 for ZEO users?

As an aside, am I the only one who's confused by this new bundling of ZEO
as part of the stand alone ZODB product?

Dan Pierson



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Tue Mar 11 19:27:49 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:27:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] secure ftp
In-Reply-To: <E18spEV-0006ZT-00@localhost>
References: <E18spEV-0006ZT-00@localhost>
Message-ID: <445998451.1047414469@[192.168.0.2]>


--On Dienstag, 11. M=E4rz 2003 14:16 -0500 Russell Hires=20
<rhires@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Is Zope configured (or can it be) to run with secure ftp? I haven't seen
> any  docs that deal with that. Or, is there some other way to be secure
> and yet  not go through the web?
>

What is secure FTP? Xope supports out-of-the-boc only standard FTP.

-aj


From kaiser@xo7.de  Tue Mar 11 19:29:03 2003
From: kaiser@xo7.de (Andreas Kaiser)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:29:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] secure ftp
In-Reply-To: <E18spEV-0006ZT-00@localhost>
References: <E18spEV-0006ZT-00@localhost>
Message-ID: <180755906.1047414543@[192.168.2.4]>

--On Dienstag, 11. M=E4rz 2003 14:16 -0500 Russell Hires=20
<rhires@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hello All...
>
> Is Zope configured (or can it be) to run with secure ftp? I haven't seen
> any  docs that deal with that. Or, is there some other way to be secure
> and yet  not go through the web?
>
> Thanks for any info...
>
> Russell


you could tunnel your ftp connection through ssh or use webdav over ssl.

andreas




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 19:34:57 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:34:57 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <3E6E3A61.7080900@jcameroncooper.com>

>
> - I can easily perform SQL statement to lookup for some information 
> such as, total employee, who are above 30 years old, and who has the 
> Lastname of 'Smith'.
> - I can easily retrieve information from multiple tables and combine 
> it as data objects.
>  
> But how can I do this in ZODB?

1) If your data set is not too big, you can do it programmatically Python:

set = folder.objectValues()
results = []
for elt in set:
  if (elt.age > 30) and (elt.lastname=='Smith'):
    results.append(elt)
return elt

One can easily replace '30' and 'Smith' with parameters to get a more 
useful script.

2) Use ZCatalog for this if you have larger sets to avoid unnecessary 
traversals.



But I suspect the larger problem is that you're thinking tabularly. 
Trying to make a 1-to-1 translation between an object-storage scheme and 
a relational-storage scheme isn't always (or maybe usually) going to 
work. I know no magic processes for this, unfortunately.

       --jcc



From guido@python.org  Tue Mar 11 19:39:55 2003
From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:39:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:26:27 EST."
 <230850000.1047410786@daystar.control.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com> <200303111517.h2BFHPv23488@odiug.zope.com>
 <230850000.1047410786@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <200303111939.h2BJdvO30535@odiug.zope.com>

> > ZEO client configuration is included in the new configuration schema.
> >
> > ZEO server configuration has its own schema and tools, also based on
> > ZConfig and the new zdaemon; you can check these out in the ZODB 3.2
> > alpha release.
> 
> Does this mean that Zope 2.7 will require ZODB 3.2 for ZEO users?

Zope 2.7 will *come with* ZODB 3.2 (or later, depending on the timing
of the Zope 2.7 release), so I suppose so.

> As an aside, am I the only one who's confused by this new bundling
> of ZEO as part of the stand alone ZODB product?

I don't know.  What's confusing for you?  The new approach is that:

  Zope includes ZODB includes ZODB

What's confusing about that?

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)


From joel@joelburton.com  Tue Mar 11 19:51:06 2003
From: joel@joelburton.com (Joel Burton)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:51:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Use of GRUF with exUserFolder/PostgreSQL broken?
Message-ID: <20030311195106.GD13675@temp.joelburton.com>

Dear GRUF and exUserFolder developers, and others familiar with both
APIs:

I'm trying to use both of your products together, as in:


acl_users [ GRUF Folder ]
 |
 \- Users
 |  |
 |  \- acl_users [ exUserFolder/PostgreSQL ]
 |
 \- Groups
    |
    \- acl_users [ normal Zope UserFolder ]

I've used exUserFolder before without problems, and have tested GRUF
with normal Zope UserFolders without problem.

I'm able to setup the configuration above and can add users using the
exUserFolder acl_users interface.

The problem is:

When a user tries to log in, this calls the GRUF authenticate method,
which is:


    def authenticate(self, password, request):
            return self.__underlying__.authenticate(password, request)


This calls the actual acl_users folder authenticate method. For a
standard Zope UserFolder, this is:


    def authenticate(self, password, request):
    	[ ... ]

so it works fine.

However, when called with an exUserFolder as the UserFolder, there is no
authenticate method on the user folder for PostgreSQL authentication.
Rather, there is an authenticate method only on the User object itself.
The signature for this is:

    def authenticate(self, listOneUser, password, request, remoteAuth=None):

There are "std_validate" and "cookie_validate" methods of
exUserFolder.exUserFolder, but these validate, rather than just
authenticate a user.

So, when GRUF tries to authenticate a user using the standard Zopish
API, it misses the user folder (which has no matching API method), and
hits the xUF.User object, which has a different method.

I could modify the GRUF source to hardcode my listOneUser object, and
pass that along with the call (though I haven't tested this yet).
However, I'm not sure that's The Right Thing To Do, and that would have
me lose all of the caching that xUF can provide, since it would do a DB
call every time.

I'd love to use your products together. Can either of you provide any
help on this? If this is something not in your anticipated development
improvements for the product, it's possible that we'd consider
sponsoring some time to get these two products working together.

Thanks!

- j.

--

Joel BURTON  |  joel@joelburton.com  |  joelburton.com  |  aim: wjoelburton
Independent Knowledge Management Consultant


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 19:51:20 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:51:20 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Creating a LocalContent object from a Python script
In-Reply-To: <0C4BCA0F254FD24D841A296F62878BF41EAF28@www.emun.com>
References: <0C4BCA0F254FD24D841A296F62878BF41EAF28@www.emun.com>
Message-ID: <3E6E3E38.1060502@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>  I need to create a LocalContent object from within a Python script,
>and I don't know how to do it. I think the function to be called is
>manage_addLocalContent, and I try it as if I were adding a file
>(context.manage_addLocalContent(id, title, languages)) but it says the
>function does not exist.
>  
>
Take a look through the source to make sure of the function name and 
parameters. Located under lib/python/Products/

Also make sure that 'context' is an ObjectManager, or it won't work.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 19:47:00 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:47:00 -0600
Subject: [Zope] problem uploading pdf file via localfs
In-Reply-To: <4D445EA25BABD411B7B800508BAF0AB704FBC0EA@xmx8fraib.fra.ib.commerzbank.com>
References: <4D445EA25BABD411B7B800508BAF0AB704FBC0EA@xmx8fraib.fra.ib.commerzbank.com>
Message-ID: <3E6E3D34.3040508@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I hope you are the right people to address my question. If not, please tell
>me who might help me with the following question:
>
>
>I am trying to upload a pdf file via a localfs object. Unfortunatelly I am
>getting a blank page to see within ms-ie.
>
>This is the code I am using:
>
><dtml-var standard_html_header>
><a href="pdffiles/deutschA.pdf" type="application/pdf"> upload </a><br>
><dtml-var standard_html_footer>
>  
>
Probably not helpful, but just to make sure:

by "upload" you mean "transfer from server to client, such that the 
client can display it"?

This is the opposite of my understanding of the term, and if it is also 
yours, then your method is all turned about. I suspect not, however.

Now for the possibly helpful parts:

- does it work if youhave a PDF outside a LocalFS? If so, make sure your 
LocalFS is recognizing it as a PDF and setting the mime-type correctly. 
(Not that IE really pays attention to the MIME types.) Look under the 
"properties" tab for this.

- does it work if you drop the "type" attribute from your anchor tag?

- when you click that link, does the browser url have the right file 
name (esp. without a different extension, which will screw up IE to no 
end.) Does it work right in other browsers? Try to view source to make 
sure it's not some error page. Try the IE version of "Save link target 
as..." from the linking page: does it save a valid PDF file?

That's really all the guesses I can make on the available information.

          --jcc



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Tue Mar 11 20:14:41 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:14:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] secure ftp
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D591@desi2>

An ssh tunnel makes sense, as long as your FTP client is set to passi=
ve
transfers mode for talking to Zope through it.

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: Andreas Kaiser [mailto:kaiser@xo7.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:29 AM
To: rhires@earthlink.net; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] secure ftp


--On Dienstag, 11. M=E4rz 2003 14:16 -0500 Russell Hires=20
<rhires@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hello All...
>
> Is Zope configured (or can it be) to run with secure ftp? I haven't=
 seen
> any  docs that deal with that. Or, is there some other way to be se=
cure
> and yet  not go through the web?
>
> Thanks for any info...
>
> Russell


you could tunnel your ftp connection through ssh or use webdav over s=
sl.

andreas



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From dan@control.com  Tue Mar 11 20:13:40 2003
From: dan@control.com (Dan L. Pierson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <200303111939.h2BJdvO30535@odiug.zope.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com>
 <200303111517.h2BFHPv23488@odiug.zope.com>
 <230850000.1047410786@daystar.control.com>
 <200303111939.h2BJdvO30535@odiug.zope.com>
Message-ID: <238870000.1047413620@daystar.control.com>

--On Tuesday, March 11, 2003 02:39:55 PM -0500 Guido van Rossum 
<guido@python.org> wrote:
>> Does this mean that Zope 2.7 will require ZODB 3.2 for ZEO users?
>
> Zope 2.7 will *come with* ZODB 3.2 (or later, depending on the timing
> of the Zope 2.7 release), so I suppose so.
...
>> As an aside, am I the only one who's confused by this new bundling
>> of ZEO as part of the stand alone ZODB product?
>
> I don't know.  What's confusing for you?  The new approach is that:
>
>   Zope includes ZODB includes ZODB
>
> What's confusing about that?

Zope doesn't (currently) include ZEO so to get an up to date ZEO we now 
have to obtain
the correct version of the stand-alone ZODB and extract the contained ZEO. 
The version
numbers of the ZEO and stand-alone ZODB are unrelated so figuring out which 
ZODB we
need to get ZEO is a bit of a pain.   Also, ZEO is packaged differently in 
the stand alone
ZODB than it used to be in on it's own.

Dan Pierson




From guido@python.org  Tue Mar 11 20:22:34 2003
From: guido@python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:22:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:13:40 EST."
 <238870000.1047413620@daystar.control.com>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <215280000.1047394913@daystar.control.com> <200303111517.h2BFHPv23488@odiug.zope.com> <230850000.1047410786@daystar.control.com> <200303111939.h2BJdvO30535@odiug.zope.com>
 <238870000.1047413620@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <200303112022.h2BKMYp30724@odiug.zope.com>

> Zope doesn't (currently) include ZEO so to get an up to date ZEO we
> now have to obtain the correct version of the stand-alone ZODB and
> extract the contained ZEO. The version numbers of the ZEO and
> stand-alone ZODB are unrelated so figuring out which ZODB we need to
> get ZEO is a bit of a pain.  Also, ZEO is packaged differently in
> the stand alone ZODB than it used to be in on it's own.

That's why we're including the correct versions of ZODB and ZEO in
Zope itself.  That's already the case in Zope 2.6.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)



From steve@reidmcmahon.com  Tue Mar 11 20:21:32 2003
From: steve@reidmcmahon.com (Steve McMahon)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:21:32 -0800
Subject: [Zope] secure ftp
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D591@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D591@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E6E454C.8090004@reidmcmahon.com>

It's worth noting that this strategy works to encrypt the control 
channel (which is where passwords travel), but not the data channel 
(through with file transfers pass). That's good enough for me, as my 
worry is passwords, but not good enough if your content is confidential.

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> An ssh tunnel makes sense, as long as your FTP client is set to passive
> transfers mode for talking to Zope through it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreas Kaiser [mailto:kaiser@xo7.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:29 AM
> To: rhires@earthlink.net; zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] secure ftp
> 
> 
> --On Dienstag, 11. März 2003 14:16 -0500 Russell Hires 
> <rhires@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello All...
>>
>>Is Zope configured (or can it be) to run with secure ftp? I haven't seen
>>any  docs that deal with that. Or, is there some other way to be secure
>>and yet  not go through the web?
>>
>>Thanks for any info...
>>
>>Russell
> 
> 
> 
> you could tunnel your ftp connection through ssh or use webdav over ssl.
> 
> andreas
-- 
______________________________________________________

Steve McMahon
Reid-McMahon, LLC
steve@reidmcmahon.com
steve@dcn.org



From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Tue Mar 11 21:06:39 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:06:39 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D58F@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D58F@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E6E4FDF.9070803@icantbelieveididthat.com>

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> This is a good question, and I do not know if this is the case, but I have
> seen behavior with __allow_access_to_uprotected_subobjects__ that would
> suggest that it might be (i.e. it didn't work, and out of frustration, I had
> to go about doing security declarations for my helper objects another, more
> complicated, way).
> 
> This is one place that Zope really makes it difficult to use Python code not
> initially written with Zope in mind.

I don't believe that this is the case.  The classes were written 
specifically for use with Zope.

The issue that I'm facing seems to be Zope's security model.  The ZDG's 
security guide has even specified that object properties that are basic 
Python types cannot have their permissions set via the usual 
security.declarePublic() call (this includes 'id', 'meta_type', 
'title').  These permissions can only be set either by a direct 
assignment of __allow_access_to_uprotected_subobjects__ or declaring the 
default permission via security.setDefaultAccess().

If I specify security.setDefaultAccess( 'deny' ), Zope disallows access 
to object properties such as 'id'.  For example, I am unable to view the 
'id' of my product with the following DTML method:

<standrad>
<h2>Test</h2>
<pre><dtml-var id></pre>

I don't want to specify security.setDefaultAccess( 'allow' ) as this 
would allow access to mutable types within my product from scripts and 
defeats the purpose of setting a strict default security policy.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd like to hear them...

Michael

> Sean
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael R. Schwab
> [mailto:Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:49 AM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope product security question
> 
> 
> Paul Winkler wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:33:18PM -0600, Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> 
> 
> (snip)
> 
> 
>>>The second method seems to be the newest and most logical approach.
>>>The being exception that the default security access to 'deny' does
>>>not permit me to access attributes from my class that are basic Python
>>>types such as strings (e.g. meta_type from a DTML Method).  I could
>>>declare the default security access to 'allow', but that seems
>>>inherently dangerous from a security standpoint.
>>
>>I think what you're looking for is
>>__allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1
> 
> 
> Having dug a little further into the bowels of Zope, I don't believe 
> that this will work, even if I had wanted to use it.
> 
> Setting __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ to 1 would be 
> overridden by Globals.InitializeClass.
> 
> In Globals.InitializeClass, there is a check to determine what the 
> default access policy is set to ('allow' or 'deny' via the 
> security.setDefaultAccess() call).  If the default access has been set, 
> __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ is assigned the value of 
> default access ('deny' == 0 and 'allow' == 1).
> 
> Am I off the mark here?
> 
> 
>>or, just make declarations on specific attributes:
>>
>>security.declarePublic('meta_type')
>>self.meta_type = "blah"
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael
> 
> 
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From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Tue Mar 11 21:24:07 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:24:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Image management in Zope
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B1@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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I would like to make a site, where the user can upload an image in any
size. The site then have to convert the image to jpg or another
optimized format. After that I would like to be able to display the
picture in a form of shop-system, in different sizes. I have been
looking at the Photo product, and it seems like it is close. I just
can't see how I convert the image upon upload.

Does anyone have some ideas regarding this. I don't mind if the solution
is a commercial product to extend zope.

=20

Thank's in advance

=20

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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 11 21:37:40 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:37:40 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <3E6DD146.2050803@cat-box.net>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james> <20030311005127.GC899@audible.transient.net> <1047346472.1423.47.camel@james> <20030311024229.GD899@audible.transient.net> <3E6DD146.2050803@cat-box.net>
Message-ID: <20030311213740.GA3456@audible.transient.net>

Steve Alexander wrote:
> > But lo, still you won't be able to do something as
> >mundane as limit the memory the FTP server is able to consume without
> >affecting the HTTP server.
> 
> You can do this with Zope. Just use ZEO and run one ZEO front-end for 
> HTTP and one for FTP.

Sure, but then you carry along all the baggage of 2 zserver instances.
Its a start, but there's still a ways to go.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"I was in love once -- a Sinclair ZX-81.  People said, "No, Holly, she's 
 not for you." She was cheap, she was stupid and she wouldn't load 
 -- well, not for me, anyway."				-Holly


From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar 11 22:05:13 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:05:13 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zserver log and awstats
Message-ID: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com>

Has anobody been able to do that??

My log file format looks the way it needs to look to awstats, but 
awstats keeps coming back with bad log format error.
The format spec in my awstats conf file:
LogFormat = "%host %other %logname %time1 %methodurl %code %bytesd 
%refererquot %uaquot"

If this is not doable is there any way to make zope log in the apache 
combined log format.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA
AM

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From maxm@mxm.dk  Tue Mar 11 22:09:24 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:09:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Image management in Zope
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B1@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B1@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <3E6E5E94.8080109@mxm.dk>

Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:

>I would like to make a site, where the user can upload an image in any
>size. The site then have to convert the image to jpg or another
>optimized format. After that I would like to be able to display the
>picture in a form of shop-system, in different sizes. I have been
>looking at the Photo product, and it seems like it is close. I just
>can't see how I convert the image upon upload.
>

You will need to use a third party tool for that:

I believe that the most prominent ones are:

-------------------------------------
PIL (Python Image Library)
http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/

supported formats are:
http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/image-file-formats.htm

I have used PIL, both standalone from Python, and under Zope. It's nice 
software and hasn't caused me any problems.

-------------------------------------
Pythonmagick
http://pythonmagick.procoders.net/
Which is a python interface for Imagemagick

It seems to support more formats than PIL, but I have never tried it.
http://www.imagemagick.org/www/formats.html

For the simple task you need to do, you probably don't even need a 
Python module. You could just call Imagemagick via popen or something 
similar and make it do the conversion.

regards Max M

(Rart at se andre danske Zopebrugere)




From florian.konnertz@web.de  Tue Mar 11 23:52:40 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:52:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime(): Basic question
Message-ID: <3E6E76C8.6000908@web.de>

Hi,
i have a short basic question about ZopeTime() or generally a basic 
python question about something like "BlaBla()"

I have troubles with this function(?) so i grep-ed the source for it but 
i cannot find the definition. So i doubt my view of the nature of it: Is 
it a function (def ZopeTime(bla=None)), apparently not, but what is it? 
An attribute?


Florian



-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 11 22:48:13 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:48:13 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com>
References: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com>
Message-ID: <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net>

Jeremy Hylton wrote:
> I don't know what work means in this context, but think the ZConfig
> project is thorough.  In my checkout there are 180k of document, 180k of
> unit tests, and 136k of code.  A measure of work that suggests that
> something with 0k of documentation and tests and 136k of code would be
> better makes no sense to me.

How about, "a lot of code/documentation was removed, and a lot of new
code/documentation was added."  Don't get hung up on the exact
numbers, my point was, a lot of work has gone into "simplifying" the
configuration process, but that the bigger picture isn't any clearer
for it.

> I don't see where the UNIX philosophy has anything useful to say about
> configuration, but maybe I'm just a closet unix hater <0.5 wink>.

Small programs that do one thing well, written to work together,
communicating via a universal interface, have the golden property of
being easily replaceable.  With this replaceability comes the ease of
configuration.

> I don't see that configuration gets any easier if you have multiple
> processes.  Even if Zope had N processes, there would still be the same
> amount of stuff to configure.

There is more than one way to ease configuration.  Reducing the
"amount of stuff" is one way, but sometimes, even after you've reduced
till you can't reduce any further, there's still a lot of "stuff."
Another way to ease configuration is to make things modular so its
easier to visualize the flow of data.  When the boundaries of
communication are clearly defined between modules it becomes easier to
understand what part each module plays, and how you can affect the
overall result by changing or re-organizing the individual modules.

> You'd probably still want a single master config file for the whole
> thing, and a tool to check the configuration is valid separate from
> the process that uses the file to configure itself.

Not I.  Large applications with a master config file are to be held
with suspicion.  Their longevity inevitably suffers because they are
difficult to adapt to new situations.

> As I watched everyone working on the ZConfig project, I was
> impressed with how many issues are involved in getting a decent
> configuration system.

Indeed.

> I don't think that break the server into multiple pieces would make
> it easier to configure, and I don't see what requirements could have
> been eliminated to make the project take less work.

Well, when you've got some cycles to burn, give it some more thought.
It may not be as obvious to you if you don't deal with it on a day to
day basis like sysadmins do, but I assure you UNIX owes much of its
longevity to the philosophies upon which it was built.  Adaptability is
a big deal.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"We must be born with an intuition of mortality.  Before we know the words
 for it, before we know there are words, out we come bloodied and squalling
 with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only
 one direction, and time is its only measure."		-Rosencrantz


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 23:02:03 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:02:03 -0600
Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available
Message-ID: <3E6E6AEB.5090102@jcameroncooper.com>

A little while back I promised to run some benchmarks. Took a little 
while longer than I thought, and there is a lot to be desired, but I 
have published the preliminary results.

My results (unfortunately) don't agree with the qualitative results of
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html

I imagine the more thorough tests I have planned will reveal more.

Anyway, if you like numbers (and who doesn't?) you can find my results at
http://zopeedge.com/benchmarks

It's a little earlier than I had planned to make the site publicly 
known, so be well warned that the only thing there that really works is 
the benchmark area.

             --jcc



From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:02:39 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:02:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope hangs
In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F50200102774E@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F50200102774E@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
Message-ID: <15982.23807.815712.18691@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ria Marinussen wrote at 2003-3-11 09:45 +0100:
 > One question about the "-M" logging. 
 > I adjusted the zope source to have rotating Z2.log files
 > (tip at: http://www.zope.org/Members/tim/logmanagement).
 > 
 > Do you know whether the "-M" logfile rotate as well with this adjustment?

It does.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:15:24 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:15:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <3E6C78DA.12854.AB381A1@localhost>
References: <3E6C78DA.12854.AB381A1@localhost>
Message-ID: <15982.24572.652105.722571@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

hpinson@indepthl.com wrote at 2003-3-10 11:36 -0700:
 > When I import an .mp3 file into Zope using the "File" object, zope 
 > just spins. The behavior is the same in both IE 6 and Mozilla 1.1. 
 > 
 > Zope: 2.6
 > OS: W2K Server
 > 
 > Any ideas why an mp3 file would not import?  I've seen similar 
 > behavior sporadically when importing image files.

Can you check whether Zope is working: one way would be to go
to "Control_Panel" --> "Debug information".
At the bottom are the currently active requests.


Dieter


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 11 23:11:11 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:11:11 -0600
Subject: [Zope] zserver log and awstats
In-Reply-To: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com>
References: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E6E6D0F.5070408@jcameroncooper.com>

> Has anobody been able to do that??
>
> My log file format looks the way it needs to look to awstats, but 
> awstats keeps coming back with bad log format error.
> The format spec in my awstats conf file:
> LogFormat = "%host %other %logname %time1 %methodurl %code %bytesd 
> %refererquot %uaquot"
>
> If this is not doable is there any way to make zope log in the apache 
> combined log format.

Perhaps this is the issue with the extra space in the log format? There 
was a discussion on this list about that not too long ago, indicating it 
had been fixed in CVS. It that's the problem, you can make that fix 
yourself for your installation easily.

          --jcc



From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:58:03 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:58:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problem uploading pdf file via localfs
In-Reply-To: <4D445EA25BABD411B7B800508BAF0AB704FBC0EA@xmx8fraib.fra.ib.commerzbank.com>
References: <4D445EA25BABD411B7B800508BAF0AB704FBC0EA@xmx8fraib.fra.ib.commerzbank.com>
Message-ID: <15982.27131.257400.645266@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Deniz, Metin wrote at 2003-3-11 14:03 +0100:
 > I hope you are the right people to address my question. If not, please tell
 > me who might help me with the following question:
 > 
 > 
 > I am trying to upload a pdf file via a localfs object. Unfortunatelly I am
 > getting a blank page to see within ms-ie.
 > 
 > This is the code I am using:
 > 
 > <dtml-var standard_html_header>
 > <a href="pdffiles/deutschA.pdf" type="application/pdf"> upload </a><br>
 > <dtml-var standard_html_footer>

You tell us that rendering this page results in an empty page?
This would mean a really strange definition of "standard_html_header/footer".

Not that this page does no uploading at all, it just renders a link...

Look at the HTML source (in your browser).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:17:59 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:17:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Create User in DTML question
In-Reply-To: <OPEIJACAAGFGEIEKLNPGGEIBCEAA.mstein@egrad.com>
References: <OPEIJACAAGFGEIEKLNPGGEIBCEAA.mstein@egrad.com>
Message-ID: <15982.24727.590504.33796@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Marc Stein wrote at 2003-3-10 14:45 -0500:
 > ...
 > It would seem to me that my options are to create the user in MySQL and then
 > additionally create that user in acl_users or to authenticate the user in
 > MySQL and not use the user folder at all.

There are UserFolders that find their users in an external database:
e.g. SimpleUserFolder and ExUserFolder.

I would use some of them.

 > It seems fairly easy to create
 > the user within the user folder with the manage_users method except that I
 > have only gotten this to work if I set the Manage Users permission to
 > Anonymous for the registered user's directory.  This doesn't seem
 > well-advised.

You are interested in "Proxie" roles. Please read about them
in the Zope Book (2.6 edition).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:13:59 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:13:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Session data as parameter to other method
In-Reply-To: <3E6CCDE5.5000809@ic.unicamp.br>
References: <3E6CCDE5.5000809@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <15982.24487.787581.973180@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Leonardo Fernandes wrote at 2003-3-10 14:39 -0300:
 > I like to use Session data as a parameter to another method (a Zsql 
 > Method i.e.).

ZSQL methods take their parameters either from REQUEST
or explicitely passed keyword parameters.

Please read the respective chapter in the Zope Book (2.6 edition).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:50:45 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:50:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] REQUEST.SESSION
In-Reply-To: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br>
References: <3E6DC99F.5010401@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <15982.26693.721321.602865@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Leonardo Fernandes wrote at 2003-3-11 08:33 -0300:
 > Is there a way to prevent access to files in the server (pdf files, for 
 > instance).

You restrict "View" permission to these objects...

 > I intend to use sessions (REQUEST.SESSION) to control that. 
 > Is it possible?

Hm, the session object does not control (out of the box)
accessibility.

You may define an accessor with a proxy role providing access
to your protected files that check things in "SESSION".

Please, read the Zope Book (2.6 edition) to learn more about
these things.

 > If not, what's the better option in this case? 
 > AccessRules also don't seem to work.

In what way do they not work?

 > Second:
 > I'd like to use Session (REQUEST.SESSION) data as a parameter to another 
 > method (a Zsql Method for example). How can I do that in dtml? 

I think, I already replied to this question...

It is probably best to have: one question, one message.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:56:10 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:56:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>
Message-ID: <15982.27018.862212.519729@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-11 14:54 +0100:
 > I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
 > Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
 > 
 > 
 > http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
 > 
 > Traceback (innermost last):
 >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
 >    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
 >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
 >    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
 >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
 >    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
 >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
 >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
 >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
 > KeyError: ZopeTime

Apparently, the root of your web site is not found (this
"Application" object defines "ZopeTime").

Usually this means, that a DTML object is called without
its positional parameters.

Unfortunately, the new tracebacks do not longer tell
about the objects affected. I expect the "OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124"
to be the culprit (more precisely, the code in the DTML Method
that calls this DTML Document).

 > This line causes the error:
 > <dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="aCommon">

Check, how this DTML object is called.

Read the "Calling DTML objects" section in

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:43:53 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:43:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting current object in an expression while in a dtml-in loop
In-Reply-To: <000901c2e78e$3c7c0c10$fe78a8c0@enterprise>
References: <000901c2e78e$3c7c0c10$fe78a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <15982.26281.268832.935982@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

HP Knoll wrote at 2003-3-11 06:22 +0100:
 > In my search results page I would like to display only those results where
 > the user has the permission to view those files. My question is: how do I
 > refer to the current object in a <dtml-in> loop?
 > I know that I could use <dtml-in Catalog skip_unauthorized> but it still
 > displays all results, even those where the user has absolutely no right.
 > 
 > Here is the example:
 > 
 > <dtml-in Catalog>
 > <dtml-if expr="_.SecurityGetUser().has_permission('View', OBJECT?????)">
 > ...

<dtml-in Catalog prefix=result>
  # now you can access the current object with "result_item"

Note, however, that is is not easy to check "View" permission
for some types of objects.

In general, accessing an object, even, if only to check permission on it,
requires the "object permission". Most object classes use
"Access contents information" as "object permission", but some
(e.g. DTML objects) use "View".

You need to use "try...except" to check for availability of the "object
permission".


Someone else already told you that the results of a catalog
search do not return the objects themselves but proxie
objects.


You may look at CMF. It solves your problem with
a special index: "AllowedRolesAndUsers". With its help,
catalog searches only return objects viewable by the
current user.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:22:28 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:22:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] File Upload problems
In-Reply-To: <E18sTHd-0003Wm-00@mail.python.org>
References: <E18sTHd-0003Wm-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <15982.24996.750777.249471@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mark Evans wrote at 2003-3-10 11:51 -0800:
 > ....
 > I am trying to upload an image file from a form to an External Method ....
 > ....
 > The external method is called from a DTML method called "execute_loadblob" which
 > contains the call:
 > 
 > <dtml-var expr="writeBlob(image)">
 > 
 > The external method is:
 > 
 > import sys,os,string,DCOracle2 as dco
 > def main(image):
 >      ...
 >      do something here with image, doesn't matter what
 >      ...
 >       return "Something was done"
 > 
 > =============================================================
 > 
 > The gist of the error received, is that image is a "
 > ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload instance at 1046b04"
 > instead of being something I can acutally manipulate.  Why is this and how do I
 > access either the file or the URL pointing to the file?

This error message does not seem to fit to your description.

Instead, it looks as if the uploaded image were returned as
result of the web request. This should never happen (Web request
results should be elementary data types). When
ZPublisher is confronted with an (non-elementary) object as response to
a request it raises an error.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:59:45 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:59:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <002a01c2e7d7$fec31d60$4664a8c0@HTAN>
References: <001401c2e7d3$66bc08f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
 <200303111543.37187.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
 <002a01c2e7d7$fec31d60$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <15982.27233.863002.872959@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Heri wrote at 2003-3-11 22:10 +0800:
 > But by using RDBMS this would mean, I can use only 1 product type for entire
 > zope instance?

You can differentiate with a special column in your table.

 > Unlike ZODB I can create multiple instances of the a product (in different
 > folder) and the instances don't conflict with each other?

The value of your differenting column could be the path to the folder.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 23:02:12 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:02:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZServer stops responding
In-Reply-To: <3E6E0929.4060006@neurobs.com>
References: <3E6E0929.4060006@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15982.27380.204437.527614@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-11 08:04 -0800:
 > I have a Apache 2.0 and a ZServer w/ VHM behind it. The Apache uses 
 > RewriteRules to serve the ZServer content. The problem is every so 
 > often, the zope server stops responding with a
 > 
 > *Proxy Error *
 > The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
 > The proxy server could not handle the request /GET / </>/.
 > 
 > Reason: *Error reading from remote server*
 > 
 > Apache/2.0.43 Server at nbs.neuro-bs.com Port 80/
 > /
 > and my zope debug log has:
 > 
 > 2003-03-10T19:09:03 INFO(0) Z2 Caught signal SIGTERM
 > ....

Provided, the two events (proxy error and log entry) occur at the same
time, the reason for your proxy error is very clear and natural:

  Someone sent Zope the "SIGTERM" signal which means please shut down
  and Zope did....
  


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:46:49 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:46:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] xmlrpc problems
In-Reply-To: <200303110918.07740.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>
References: <200303101417.16606.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>
 <009b01c2e70a$555b2100$522d84c8@zhang>
 <200303110918.07740.m_hoertzsch@yahoo.de>
Message-ID: <15982.26457.444529.206364@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Matthias H=F6rtzsch wrote at 2003-3-11 09:18 +0100:
 > ...
 > The calls to objectIds and getId are calls to Zope API methods, not to=
 self=20
 > defined methods. So I think parts of the Zope API have wrong comments =
and=20
 > thats why its not possible to make xmlrpc calls because there will be =
always=20
 > the missing docstring error.
 >=20
 > I think it would be a good idea to correct the comments in the Zope AP=
I.

The docstrings have been explicitly removed from these ObjectManager
methods because some eloquent Zope users had privacy concerns :-)

You can easily shaddow them; make Python scripts in your root, e.g.

    def myObjectIds():
      return context.objectIds()

and use your proxies instead of the official ones.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 22:37:34 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:37:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] sendmail tag is quoting html
In-Reply-To: <3E6CEF89.3090909@neurobs.com>
References: <3E6CEF89.3090909@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15982.25902.393656.333303@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-10 12:03 -0800:
 > I have the following snippet in my standard_error_message:
 > ...
 > <dtml-sendmail mailhost="mail_host">
 > ...
 > <dtml-var error_tb>
 > ...
 > </dtml-sendmail>
 > 
 > The problem is that the error_tb is sent quoted like in the stuff below.
 > Any ideas why?? Any workarounds??
 > ....
 > Error Type: NotFound
 > Traceback:
 > 
 > <p>Traceback (innermost last):
 > <ul>
 > 
 > <li>  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 89, in publish</li>
 > 
 > <li>  Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 329, in traverse</li>
 > 
 > <li>  Module ZPublisher.HTTPResponse, line 636, in debugError</li>
 > 
 > </ul>

Up to hear, it is as expected:

  You are sending a plain text email while "error_tb" expects
  to be incorporated into an HTML context.

 > NotFound: &lt;TABLE BORDER="0" WIDTH="100%"&gt;
 > &lt;TR VALIGN="TOP"&gt;
 > 
 > &lt;TD WIDTH="10%" ALIGN="CENTER"&gt;
 > &amp;nbsp;
 > &lt;/TD&gt;
 > 
 > &lt;TD WIDTH="90%"&gt;
 >   &lt;H2&gt;Site Error&lt;/H2&gt;
 >   &lt;P&gt;An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
 >   &lt;/P&gt;
 >   &lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Debugging Notice&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
 > 
 >   Zope has encountered a problem publishing your object.&lt;p&gt;
 > Cannot locate object at: http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/dadada
 >   &lt;HR NOSHADE&gt;

This is caused by the following problem:

  Usually, "error_value" should be HTML quoted, as it may
  contain e.g. "<SpecialException instance at 0x3456>"
  or other non-HTML text.

  However, some exceptions, e.g. "debugError" put HTML formatted text
  in "error_value". Of course, quoting this HTML does not
  enhance readability.

I do not have an easy solution.

  Probably, the exceptions that put HTML into "error_value"
  should derive from a special exception base class which
  would allow to treat them in a special way.

  Or, even better, all exceptions should delegate presentation
  to "standard_error_message" and do not try to HTML render
  error text.


Dieter


From chrism@zope.com  Tue Mar 11 23:19:28 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 11 Mar 2003 18:19:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net>
References: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com>
 <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <1047424768.1419.89.camel@james>

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:48, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> How about, "a lot of code/documentation was removed, and a lot of new
> code/documentation was added."  Don't get hung up on the exact
> numbers, my point was, a lot of work has gone into "simplifying" the
> configuration process, but that the bigger picture isn't any clearer
> for it.

Given the circumstance, what would you propose to do?

- C




From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 11 23:10:49 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 00:10:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Creating a LocalContent object from a Python script
In-Reply-To: <0C4BCA0F254FD24D841A296F62878BF41EAF28@www.emun.com>
References: <0C4BCA0F254FD24D841A296F62878BF41EAF28@www.emun.com>
Message-ID: <15982.27897.725719.414389@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Igor Leturia wrote at 2003-3-11 17:54 +0100:
 >   I need to create a LocalContent object from within a Python script,
 > and I don't know how to do it. I think the function to be called is
 > manage_addLocalContent, and I try it as if I were adding a file
 > (context.manage_addLocalContent(id, title, languages)) but it says the
 > function does not exist.

I do not know what a "LocalContent" object is but usually you
use:

	destination.manage_addProduct[product_name].constructor(args)

where "destination" is the destination ObjectManager where the new
object shoult be placed into,
"productname" is the name of the product that defines the objects
class,
"constructor" is the constructor for this kind of objects
and "args" are the constructor arguments.


Dieter


From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 11 23:27:10 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:27:10 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047424768.1419.89.camel@james>
References: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com> <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net> <1047424768.1419.89.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030311232710.GC3456@audible.transient.net>

Chris McDonough wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 17:48, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> > How about, "a lot of code/documentation was removed, and a lot of new
> > code/documentation was added."  Don't get hung up on the exact
> > numbers, my point was, a lot of work has gone into "simplifying" the
> > configuration process, but that the bigger picture isn't any clearer
> > for it.
> 
> Given the circumstance, what would you propose to do?

Merge and move on, I'm not asking anyone to throw out their work,
just to give thought to what I've said.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"We must be born with an intuition of mortality.  Before we know the words
 for it, before we know there are words, out we come bloodied and squalling
 with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only
 one direction, and time is its only measure."		-Rosencrantz


From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 11 23:44:20 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:44:20 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sendmail tag is quoting html
In-Reply-To: <15982.25902.393656.333303@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E6CEF89.3090909@neurobs.com> <15982.25902.393656.333303@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030311234420.GD3456@audible.transient.net>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
>   Or, even better, all exceptions should delegate presentation
>   to "standard_error_message" and do not try to HTML render
>   error text.

Most definately.  Code "deep in" that assumes it knows what context
it's return value will be rendered in, is buggy.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"I was in love once -- a Sinclair ZX-81.  People said, "No, Holly, she's 
 not for you." She was cheap, she was stupid and she wouldn't load 
 -- well, not for me, anyway."				-Holly


From bz@bwanazulia.com  Tue Mar 11 23:52:08 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:52:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd
In-Reply-To: <200301211206.50792.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <785B2E8E-541C-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

I took a look through the mailing list and there is a lot of talk of 
POSKeyError but I have not found one solution.

Anyone have something to go on? A fix? A place to start?

BZ

Mine:
Error Type: POSKeyError
Error Value: 000000000001efcd

Traceback (innermost last):
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in 
publish_module
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 114, in 
publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 159, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
     (Object: Members)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 98, in 
publish
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88, in 
mapply
     (Object: index_html)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 39, in 
call_object
     (Object: index_html)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 127, in 
__call__
     (Object: index_html)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 
473, in __call__
     (Object: index_html)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Return.py, line 
31, in render
     (Object: roster)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 120, in 
__call__
     (Object: roster)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 
473, in __call__
     (Object: roster)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Let.py, line 75, 
in render
     (Object: roster=&quot;portal_membership.getRoster()&quot; 
userMgr=&quot;portal_membership.checkPermission( 'View', Members 
)&quot;)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_Util.py, line 
159, in eval
     (Object: portal_membership.getRoster())
     (Info: portal_membership)
   File &lt;string&gt;, line 2, in f
   File 
/usr/local/zope/lib/python/Products/CMFDefault/MembershipTool.py, line 
141, in getRoster
     (Object: portal_membership)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 447, in 
setstate
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 582, in load
     (Object: /usr/local/zope/var/Data.fs)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 577, in 
_load
     (Object: /usr/local/zope/var/Data.fs)
   File /usr/local/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 2134, in 
_loadBack
POSKeyError: (see above)



From florian.konnertz@web.de  Wed Mar 12 01:09:02 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 02:09:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime(): Basic question
In-Reply-To: <3E6E76C8.6000908@web.de>
References: <3E6E76C8.6000908@web.de>
Message-ID: <3E6E88AE.9050009@web.de>

Florian Konnertz wrote:
> Hi,
> i have a short basic question about ZopeTime() or generally a basic 
> python question about something like "BlaBla()"
> 
> I have troubles with this function(?) so i grep-ed the source for it but 
> i cannot find the definition. So i doubt my view of the nature of it: Is 
> it a function (def ZopeTime(bla=None)), apparently not, but what is it? 
> An attribute?

Ok, the question was solved by Dieters answer to my recent posting.
No more help needed on this posting.

Florian


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and wisdom traditions



From florian.konnertz@web.de  Wed Mar 12 01:20:32 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 02:20:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <15982.27018.862212.519729@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de> <15982.27018.862212.519729@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E6E8B60.1040303@web.de>

Hi Dieter,

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-11 14:54 +0100:
>  > I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
>  > Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
>  > 
>  > 
>  > http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
>  > 
>  > Traceback (innermost last):
>  >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>  >    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>  >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>  >    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>  >    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
>  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
>  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
>  > KeyError: ZopeTime
> 
> Apparently, the root of your web site is not found (this
> "Application" object defines "ZopeTime").
Ok. - Very enlightening! :) My mind isn't object-orientated enough yet. ;-)
> 
> Usually this means, that a DTML object is called without
> its positional parameters.
> 
> Unfortunately, the new tracebacks do not longer tell
> about the objects affected. I expect the "OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124"
> to be the culprit (more precisely, the code in the DTML Method
> that calls this DTML Document).
Document? - Shouldn't it read: "...that calls this DTML object" - if i 
got the above explanation right (?)

So i'll do some LOG before line 124 now
      LOG("bself",TRACE,bself)
124  r=apply(HTML.__call__, (self, bself, REQUEST), kw)
do you think this is right?

> 
>  > This line causes the error:
>  > <dtml-var ZopeTime fmt="aCommon">
> 
> Check, how this DTML object is called.
> 
> Read the "Calling DTML objects" section in
> 
>   <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>
Excellent explained. :)
I already read about half of your book some weeks ago, i guess i should 
read the rest ASAP :)

> 
> Dieter
> 
Thanks a lot Dieter. If you read this soon could you give me another 
debugging tip or correct my suggestion above, please?


Florian


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From mark.evans.b@bayer.com  Tue Mar 11 23:44:50 2003
From: mark.evans.b@bayer.com (Mark Evans)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:44:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: File Upload problems
Message-ID: <E18stQj-0005bZ-00@mail.python.org>

Actually, Maik had it right, it just took me awhile to get it to work.  The key
was that the FileUpload object can be treated as a file object.  I was then able
to do this:

def main (image):
    dCon = dco.connect("foo/foo@myfoo")
    dCur = dCon.cursor()
    dCur.execute("insert into blobtest values ('2', EMPTY_BLOB())")
    dCur.execute("select * from blobtest where id='2' for update")
    r = dCur.fetchone()
    lob = r[1]
    lob.write(image.read())
    dCon.commit()
    return str(image.filename) +" was loaded"

This did what I wanted it to do.  What I was missing was the
lob.write(image.read()) syntax.  That took me awhile.
Thanks to Maik and Dieter for their help.

Mark



|---------+---------------------------->
|         |           Dieter Maurer    |
|         |           <dieter@handshake|
|         |           .de>             |
|         |                            |
|         |           03/11/2003 02:22 |
|         |           PM               |
|         |                            |
|---------+---------------------------->
  >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  |                                                                                                                           |
  |       To:       "Mark Evans" <mark.evans.b@bayer.com>                                                                     |
  |       cc:       zope@zope.org                                                                                             |
  |       Subject:  Re: [Zope] File Upload problems                                                                           |
  >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|




Mark Evans wrote at 2003-3-10 11:51 -0800:
 > ....
 > I am trying to upload an image file from a form to an External Method ....
 > ....
 > The external method is called from a DTML method called "execute_loadblob"
 which
 > contains the call:
 >
 > <dtml-var expr="writeBlob(image)">
 >
 > The external method is:
 >
 > import sys,os,string,DCOracle2 as dco
 > def main(image):
 >      ...
 >      do something here with image, doesn't matter what
 >      ...
 >       return "Something was done"
 >
 > =============================================================
 >
 > The gist of the error received, is that image is a "
 > ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload instance at 1046b04"
 > instead of being something I can acutally manipulate.  Why is this and how do
 I
 > access either the file or the URL pointing to the file?

This error message does not seem to fit to your description.

Instead, it looks as if the uploaded image were returned as
result of the web request. This should never happen (Web request
results should be elementary data types). When
ZPublisher is confronted with an (non-elementary) object as response to
a request it raises an error.


Dieter





From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Wed Mar 12 01:00:23 2003
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 02:00:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CookieUserFolder: migration and IE6 problems
Message-ID: <3E6E86A7.9000005@friedman.ch>

Hi

My CookieUserFolder works fine with mozilla 1.2.1, but doesn't work in 
IE6. in IE6 it shows the
password dialog on every page. The pages are showing after entering of 
the password. until on some funktion it show
a http-authorization dialog and from that point it works. this is 
possibly related to the fact that the CookieUserFolder is sitting in a 
Subfolder and i have a stock-UserFolder in the root.

This site worked fine on a 2.4.3 server for some time, and i do some 
upgrading work, that's why i have these CUF
sitting around.

I tried migrating to CookieCrumbler, but when i delete my 
CookieUserFolder it leaves some footprint in the objects,
that breaks the object when CookieCrumbler ist deleted from the system.

Anybody seen this before? anybody fixed the deletion problem with 
CookieUserFolder?

I use Zope 2.6.1, python 2.1.3. CookieUserFolder 1.6, linux2

Regards

Gidon






From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Wed Mar 12 02:02:59 2003
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 03:02:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CookieUserFolder: migration and IE6 problems
In-Reply-To: <3E6E86A7.9000005@friedman.ch>
References: <3E6E86A7.9000005@friedman.ch>
Message-ID: <3E6E9553.3070102@friedman.ch>

> I tried migrating to CookieCrumbler, but when i delete my 
> CookieUserFolder it leaves some footprint in the objects,
> that breaks the object when CookieCrumbler ist deleted from the system.
>
for the archives: the CookieUserFolder comes with a External Method to
migrate form UserFolder. it is easy to rewrite it for the other way
around. and after scripting this for all my folder, and to add some
CookieCrumblers, everything looks good.

take care

Gidon




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 12 02:40:47 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:40:47 -0800
Subject: [Zope] result
References: <1047402193.3883.1.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <3E6E9E2F.8050906@neurobs.com>

http://www.python.org/topics/database/DatabaseAPI-2.0.html#cursor

hth
AM

D. Rick Anderson wrote:

>What's the syntax for building a 'result' variable such as that that is
>returned by an SQL query?
>
>TIA
>
>Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>  
>

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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 12 02:42:03 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:42:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zserver log and awstats
References: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com> <3E6E6D0F.5070408@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E6E9E7B.7080302@neurobs.com>

a search on awstats on the list doesnt return anything. 1st thing I 
tried. Even a google on awstats and zope returns nothing relevant.

will keep looking.

Thanks for the reference

AM

J Cameron Cooper wrote:

>> Has anobody been able to do that??
>>
>> My log file format looks the way it needs to look to awstats, but 
>> awstats keeps coming back with bad log format error.
>> The format spec in my awstats conf file:
>> LogFormat = "%host %other %logname %time1 %methodurl %code %bytesd 
>> %refererquot %uaquot"
>>
>> If this is not doable is there any way to make zope log in the apache 
>> combined log format.
>
>
> Perhaps this is the issue with the extra space in the log format? 
> There was a discussion on this list about that not too long ago, 
> indicating it had been fixed in CVS. It that's the problem, you can 
> make that fix yourself for your installation easily.
>
>          --jcc
>
>
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From aquraishi@skyesystems.com  Wed Mar 12 02:45:33 2003
From: aquraishi@skyesystems.com (Asad Quraishi)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:45:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG how to questions?
Message-ID: <3E6E9F4D.90707@skyesystems.com>

Can anyone point me to documentation describing how to use 
CMFCollectorNG?  The install is straight forward enough and I have 
adapted it for Plone as per the the install docs but it is not as simple 
to use as I thought it might be.

Thanks.



From aquraishi@skyesystems.com  Wed Mar 12 02:54:33 2003
From: aquraishi@skyesystems.com (Asad Quraishi)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:54:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG how to questions?
Message-ID: <3E6EA169.1020905@skyesystems.com>

I should have mentioned that I tried creating a CollectorNG doc type in 
my portal, filled in the configure and staff tabs - this worked fine. 
All tabs are accessible except 'browse' and 'new issue'.  When I click 
on these I get the error:

Error Type
NameError

Error Value
global name 'member' is not defined

If I could get beyond this I may not need a manual.

Thanks again.



From rocky.burt@bricsnet.com  Wed Mar 12 03:04:24 2003
From: rocky.burt@bricsnet.com (Rocky Burt)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:04:24 -0500
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG how to questions?
In-Reply-To: <3E6EA169.1020905@skyesystems.com>
References: <3E6EA169.1020905@skyesystems.com>
Message-ID: <15982.41912.438566.384745@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>

This is because your main_template.pt isn't quite right.  You either need to upgrade to Plone 1.0.1 or add the code from this url to your main_template.pt.

http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/CMFCollectorNG/Wiki/PloneIntegration

Regards,
Rocky



> --------- Original Message ---------
> From: Asad Quraishi [mailto:aquraishi@skyesystems.com]
> Sent: March 11, 2003 21:54:33 -0500
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG how to questions?
> 
> 
> I should have mentioned that I tried creating a CollectorNG doc type in 
> my portal, filled in the configure and staff tabs - this worked fine. 
> All tabs are accessible except 'browse' and 'new issue'.  When I click 
> on these I get the error:
> 
> Error Type
> NameError
> 
> Error Value
> global name 'member' is not defined
> 
> If I could get beyond this I may not need a manual.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 03:24:14 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:24:14 -0600
Subject: [Zope] zserver log and awstats
References: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com> <3E6E6D0F.5070408@jcameroncooper.com> <3E6E9E7B.7080302@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E6EA85E.1020200@jcameroncooper.com>

> a search on awstats on the list doesnt return anything. 1st thing I 
> tried. Even a google on awstats and zope returns nothing relevant.
>
> will keep looking. 

This seems to be exactly your problem. Thread starts:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2003-February/132084.html

It is indeed hard to find: the lists.zope.org Google search didn't pick 
it up even if I gave it by name.

            --jcc



From aquraishi@skyesystems.com  Wed Mar 12 03:33:02 2003
From: aquraishi@skyesystems.com (Asad Quraishi)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 22:33:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG how to questions?
In-Reply-To: <15982.41912.438566.384745@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
References: <3E6EA169.1020905@skyesystems.com> <15982.41912.438566.384745@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
Message-ID: <3E6EAA6E.2010103@skyesystems.com>

Thanks.  I can't believe I missed that :-)

Cheers.

Rocky Burt wrote:

>This is because your main_template.pt isn't quite right.  You either need to upgrade to Plone 1.0.1 or add the code from this url to your main_template.pt.
>
>http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/CMFCollectorNG/Wiki/PloneIntegration
>
>Regards,
>Rocky
>
>
>
>  
>
>>--------- Original Message ---------
>>From: Asad Quraishi [mailto:aquraishi@skyesystems.com]
>>Sent: March 11, 2003 21:54:33 -0500
>>To: zope@zope.org
>>Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG how to questions?
>>
>>
>>I should have mentioned that I tried creating a CollectorNG doc type in 
>>my portal, filled in the configure and staff tabs - this worked fine. 
>>All tabs are accessible except 'browse' and 'new issue'.  When I click 
>>on these I get the error:
>>
>>Error Type
>>NameError
>>
>>Error Value
>>global name 'member' is not defined
>>
>>If I could get beyond this I may not need a manual.
>>
>>Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>>(Related lists - 
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>    
>>
>
>  
>



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 12 04:03:17 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:03:17 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zserver log and awstats
References: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com> <3E6E6D0F.5070408@jcameroncooper.com> <3E6E9E7B.7080302@neurobs.com> <3E6EA85E.1020200@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E6EB185.4050009@neurobs.com>

Thanks a lot.
AM

J Cameron Cooper wrote:

>> a search on awstats on the list doesnt return anything. 1st thing I 
>> tried. Even a google on awstats and zope returns nothing relevant.
>>
>> will keep looking. 
>
>
> This seems to be exactly your problem. Thread starts:
>
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2003-February/132084.html
>
> It is indeed hard to find: the lists.zope.org Google search didn't 
> pick it up even if I gave it by name.
>
>            --jcc
>
>
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From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Wed Mar 12 04:50:21 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:50:21 +0400
Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C106@AUHEXCH>

It's a great start. Thanks. I find it very helpful.

I'm also very curious about performance on dynamic content. My experience
has been, and I think I'm not alone in this, that even with my rarefied
understanding of the capabilities of Zope, I find myself exploiting it's
advantages. I don't think I have a single static page on my site. I think
it's more to do with mindset. I just don't think in terms of "static" pages,
I'm more concerned with the logic than the presentation. In fact some of my
pages are extremely complex. Perhaps much more than they need to be, but I'm
still learning.

Another comment I need to make - this is through experience with my manager.
On http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html
the key statement is "Tomcat is 2x or 3x faster than Zope when execute an
SQL query", the key words being "SQL query". Not pages. Even I missed that
first. I'm stating the obvious here, but sometimes even the obvious needs to
be restated.

And a suggestion - I'd be very interested to know if the above was (still)
true for DB access. One piece of logic we frequently use here is to generate
a form with default values that are dynamically extracted from a database.
Explanation - we have some very lengthy forms. Since we don't expect users
to complete them in one go, we give them the option of storing whatever they
enter in a session in the DB. And each time the user wishes to update the
information, the input form is dynamically generated with SQL query
variables (I'm still using <dtml-sqlvars ...> which is slower than the
alternatives, but like I said earlier, I'm still learning) being used as
default values.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Samir.



-----Original Message-----
From: J Cameron Cooper [mailto:jccooper@jcameroncooper.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 03:02
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available


A little while back I promised to run some benchmarks. Took a little 
while longer than I thought, and there is a lot to be desired, but I 
have published the preliminary results.

My results (unfortunately) don't agree with the qualitative results of
http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html

I imagine the more thorough tests I have planned will reveal more.

Anyway, if you like numbers (and who doesn't?) you can find my results at
http://zopeedge.com/benchmarks

It's a little earlier than I had planned to make the site publicly 
known, so be well warned that the only thing there that really works is 
the benchmark area.

             --jcc


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From akm@theinternet.com.au  Wed Mar 12 05:07:55 2003
From: akm@theinternet.com.au (Andrew Kenneth Milton)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:07:55 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Use of GRUF with exUserFolder/PostgreSQL broken?
In-Reply-To: <20030311195106.GD13675@temp.joelburton.com>
References: <20030311195106.GD13675@temp.joelburton.com>
Message-ID: <20030312050755.GU75167@zeus.theinternet.com.au>

+-------[ Joel Burton ]----------------------

| However, when called with an exUserFolder as the UserFolder, there is no
| authenticate method on the user folder for PostgreSQL authentication.
| Rather, there is an authenticate method only on the User object itself.
| The signature for this is:
| 
|     def authenticate(self, listOneUser, password, request, remoteAuth=None):

XUF subclasses BasicUserFolder which contains the authenticate method.

XUF from CVS explicitly overrides this method.

My advice is to try XUF from CVS.

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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Wed Mar 12 06:09:41 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:09:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zserver log and awstats
In-Reply-To: <3E6E6D0F.5070408@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <3E6E5D99.3060209@neurobs.com>
 <3E6E6D0F.5070408@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <484510479.1047452981@[192.168.0.2]>

This problem is fixed in the CVS. Check the CHANGES.txt files.

-aj

--On Dienstag, 11. M=E4rz 2003 17:11 -0600 J Cameron Cooper=20
<jccooper@jcameroncooper.com> wrote:

>> Has anobody been able to do that??
>>
>> My log file format looks the way it needs to look to awstats, but
>> awstats keeps coming back with bad log format error.
>> The format spec in my awstats conf file:
>> LogFormat =3D "%host %other %logname %time1 %methodurl %code %bytesd
>> %refererquot %uaquot"
>>
>> If this is not doable is there any way to make zope log in the apache
>> combined log format.
>
> Perhaps this is the issue with the extra space in the log format? There
> was a discussion on this list about that not too long ago, indicating it
> had been fixed in CVS. It that's the problem, you can make that fix
> yourself for your installation easily.
>
>           --jcc
>
>
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From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Wed Mar 12 06:10:56 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:10:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime(): Basic question
In-Reply-To: <3E6E76C8.6000908@web.de>
References: <3E6E76C8.6000908@web.de>
Message-ID: <484585346.1047453056@[192.168.0.2]>

ZopeTime() returns a DateTime instance. Check the DateTime API for details.

-aj

--On Mittwoch, 12. M=E4rz 2003 00:52 +0100 Florian Konnertz=20
<florian.konnertz@web.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> i have a short basic question about ZopeTime() or generally a basic
> python question about something like "BlaBla()"
>
> I have troubles with this function(?) so i grep-ed the source for it but
> i cannot find the definition. So i doubt my view of the nature of it: Is
> it a function (def ZopeTime(bla=3DNone)), apparently not, but what is it?
> An attribute?
>
>
> Florian
>
>
>
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From mattficken@mail.com  Wed Mar 12 07:33:32 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 02:33:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] New Product Help
Message-ID: <20030312073332.51045.qmail@mail.com>

I am trying to create a new zope product. I need to make a root level folder but have a function within my product called to approve access and changes to that folder. But, I don't even know how to make the root level folder. I would really appreciate help.

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From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Wed Mar 12 08:28:54 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:28:54 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net>
References: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com> <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <200303120828.54903.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Tuesday 11 March 2003 10:48 pm, Jamie Heilman wrote:

> > You'd probably still want a single master config file for the whole
> > thing, and a tool to check the configuration is valid separate from
> > the process that uses the file to configure itself.
>
> Not I.  Large applications with a master config file are to be held
> with suspicion.  Their longevity inevitably suffers because they are
> difficult to adapt to new situations.

Im not sure the "big config file" approach is necessarily less adaptable than 
the "big /etc directory" approach. It is the details that make the difference 
- both approaches can be done well.

> Another way to ease configuration is to make things modular so its
> easier to visualize the flow of data.

There is no amount of reconfiguration that can improve this in Zope2. Zope3 
promises to fix this, but with modular python components rather than modular 
unix components. I would be interested in your thoughts on whether this makes 
a difference.

-- 
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From mico@intermatik.co.id  Wed Mar 12 21:22:38 2003
From: mico@intermatik.co.id (Mico Siahaan)
Date: 12 Mar 2003 16:22:38 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Best way to run multiple sites in one Server
Message-ID: <1047504047.2806.46.camel@cmo.internal.intermatik.com>

Well, it's a sys admin newbie question ;)

I have just been handed over a server with some sites in it (not many :)
). I wonder what is the best way to run multiple sites on one computer?

I heard some ways: multiple zope server running in simultaneously, using
virtual monster, using PCGI, using Fast CGI. What are pros and cons for
each way? What is the best way to run multiple zope sites in one
computer? Are there any reading materials I can read about this matter?
(I think the old Zope Administrator Guide is not enough :) )

Thanks for your help.

-- 
mico@intermatik.co.id
--
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From IGOR@emun.com  Wed Mar 12 09:21:21 2003
From: IGOR@emun.com (Igor Leturia)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:21:21 +0100
Subject: ER: [Zope] Creating a LocalContent object from a Python script
Message-ID: <0C4BCA0F254FD24D841A296F62878BF415D6D7@www.emun.com>

>Igor Leturia wrote at 2003-3-11 17:54 +0100:
> >   I need to create a LocalContent object from within a Python
script,
> > and I don't know how to do it. I think the function to be called is
> > manage_addLocalContent, and I try it as if I were adding a file
> > (context.manage_addLocalContent(id, title, languages)) but it says
the
> > function does not exist.
>
>I do not know what a "LocalContent" object is but usually you use:
>	destination.manage_addProduct[product_name].constructor(args)
>where "destination" is the destination ObjectManager where the new
>object shoult be placed into,
>"productname" is the name of the product that defines the objects
>class,
>"constructor" is the constructor for this kind of objects
>and "args" are the constructor arguments.

Thanks, Dieter. This has put me on the right way, but I still can't get
it. The LocalContent object is a class from the Localizer product, so I
tried:

=20
container.manage_addProduct('Localizer').manage_addLocalContent('whateve
r_id','en es')

The container is an ObjectManager (a folder, to be precise), Localizer
is the product and manage_addLocalContent is the constructor, which I
think takes two arguments, the id and a string containing the languages.
But it always gives me an error:

  Error Type: AttributeError
  Error Value: __call__
  Troubleshooting Suggestions:
  The URL may be incorrect.=20
  The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.=20
  A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.

Any ideas, anybody?

    Igor Leturia


From lsh@wo.cz  Wed Mar 12 09:42:35 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:42:35 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Image management in Zope
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F0007AB9D@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

Toto je vícedílná zpráva formátu MIME.

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable

Hi Jens &@,

I dont give you answer, but I will learn to you how to effectivelly searc=
h
informations about Zope products and howtos. Type following URLs in your
two windows of browser:

http://www.zope.org/Products/all_products?pp=3D1&batch_size%3Aint%3Arequi=
red=3D9
99=20
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/index_html?pp=3D1&batch_size:int=
:requ
ired=3D999=20
(be quiet, it takes few minutes to downola these pages, you will about a
minute see nothing)

Do a text searches at both these pages for "image", "img", "picture" and
"photo" at each page. Then you will have overview of all products and
howtos at Zope.

Regards JL.

PS Sorry for HTML format, it is due long links.

----------
Odes=EDlatel: Jens JB. Bjerre <jens@bkinformatik.dk>
I would like to make a site, where the user can upload an image in any
size. The site then have to convert the image to jpg or another
optimized format. After that I would like to be able to display the
picture in a form of shop-system, in different sizes. I have been
looking at the Photo product, and it seems like it is close. I just
can't see how I convert the image upon upload.

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<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">Hi Jens &amp;@,<br><br>I dont give you =
answer, but I will learn to you how to effectivelly search informations =
about Zope products and howtos. Type following URLs in your two windows =
of =
browser:<br><br>http://www.zope.org/Products/all_products?pp=3D1&amp;batc=
h_size%3Aint%3Arequired=3D999 =
<br>http://www.zope.org/Documentation/How-To/index_html?pp=3D1&amp;batch_=
size:int:required=3D999 <br>(be quiet, it takes few minutes to downola =
these pages, you will about a minute see nothing)<br><br>Do a text =
searches at both these pages for &quot;image&quot;, &quot;img&quot;, =
&quot;picture&quot; and &quot;photo&quot; at each page. Then you will =
have overview of all products and howtos at Zope.<br><br>Regards =
JL.<br><br>PS Sorry for HTML format, it is due long =
links.<br><br>----------<br>Odes=EDlatel: Jens JB. Bjerre &lt;<font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>jens@bkinformatik.dk</u><font =
color=3D"#000000">&gt;<br><font size=3D1 face=3D"Courier New">I would =
like to make a site, where the user can upload an image in any<br>size. =
The site then have to convert the image to jpg or another<br>optimized =
format. After that I would like to be able to display the<br>picture in =
a form of shop-system, in different sizes. I have been<br>looking at the =
Photo product, and it seems like it is close. I just<br>can't see how I =
convert the image upon upload.<br><br></p>
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From htan@gmx.de  Wed Mar 12 10:26:30 2003
From: htan@gmx.de (Heri)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:26:30 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
Message-ID: <008401c2e881$dae967f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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you're right, i'm still thinking tabularly.

I'm basically looking for ways how to do database query (select, update, =
create, etc).
Of course i'm still thinkin in 'relation database' way as I'm just =
starting with OODB.

>From my latest reading, the ZODB works like a 'dictionary':
-In this way, I can save any objects into this dictionary.
-the key for the dictionary is the 'unique key' while the value is the =
object.
-In order to perform any query, I need to parse through the dictionary

My questions:
-wouldn't it be too slow?
-How if I don't need any key?
-How if I have multiple keys?

This doesn't seem so easy.

Probably I need to read ZCatalog and get some understanding from its =
query.
thanks.
Heri



>
> - I can easily perform SQL statement to lookup for some information=20
> such as, total employee, who are above 30 years old, and who has the=20
> Lastname of 'Smith'.
> - I can easily retrieve information from multiple tables and combine=20
> it as data objects.
> =20
> But how can I do this in ZODB?

1) If your data set is not too big, you can do it programmatically =
Python:

set =3D folder.objectValues()
results =3D []
for elt in set:
  if (elt.age > 30) and (elt.lastname=3D=3D'Smith'):
    results.append(elt)
return elt

One can easily replace '30' and 'Smith' with parameters to get a more=20
useful script.

2) Use ZCatalog for this if you have larger sets to avoid unnecessary=20
traversals.



But I suspect the larger problem is that you're thinking tabularly.=20
Trying to make a 1-to-1 translation between an object-storage scheme and =

a relational-storage scheme isn't always (or maybe usually) going to=20
work. I know no magic processes for this, unfortunately.

       --jcc

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charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>you're right, i'm still thinking =
tabularly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I'm basically looking for ways how to do =
database query=20
(select, update, create, etc).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Of course i'm still thinkin in 'relation =
database' way as=20
I'm just starting with OODB.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>From my latest reading, the ZODB works like a=20
'dictionary':</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>-In this way, I can save any objects into this=20
dictionary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>-the key for the dictionary is the 'unique key' =
while the=20
value is the object.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>-In order to perform any query, I need to parse =
through=20
the dictionary</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>My questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>-wouldn't it be too slow?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>-How if I don't need any key?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>-How if I have multiple keys?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>This doesn't seem so easy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Probably I need to read ZCatalog and get some=20
understanding from its query.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>thanks.<BR>Heri</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&gt;<I><BR></I>&gt;<I> - I can easily perform =
SQL=20
statement to lookup for some information <BR></I>&gt;<I> such as, total=20
employee, who are above 30 years old, and who has the </DIV></I>&gt;<I> =
Lastname=20
of 'Smith'.<BR></I>&gt;<I> - I can easily retrieve information from =
multiple=20
tables and combine <BR></I>&gt;<I> it as data =
objects.<BR></I>&gt;<I>&nbsp;=20
<BR></I>&gt;<I> But how can I do this in ZODB?<BR></I><BR>1) If your =
data set is=20
not too big, you can do it programmatically Python:<BR><BR>set =3D=20
folder.objectValues()<BR>results =3D []<BR>for elt in set:<BR>&nbsp; if =
(elt.age=20
&gt; 30) and (elt.lastname=3D=3D'Smith'):<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
results.append(elt)<BR>return elt<BR><BR>One can easily replace '30' and =
'Smith'=20
with parameters to get a more <BR>useful script.<BR><BR>2) Use ZCatalog =
for this=20
if you have larger sets to avoid unnecessary =
<BR>traversals.<BR><BR><BR><BR>But=20
I suspect the larger problem is that you're thinking tabularly. =
<BR>Trying to=20
make a 1-to-1 translation between an object-storage scheme and <BR>a=20
relational-storage scheme isn't always (or maybe usually) going to =
<BR>work. I=20
know no magic processes for this,=20
unfortunately.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
--jcc<BR></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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From mas@semafor.ch  Wed Mar 12 10:35:58 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:35:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Giving out STDOUT
Message-ID: <3E6F0D8E.3090807@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

I wrote an external method which compiles a TeX-Source with latex2html. 
It's very simple... it only calls the command with

os.system('latex2html /path/to/uploaded_files/%s' %file.filename)

This command causes an output like "This is latex2html version..." and 
so on.

Now I want to give out this Output in a Textarea on a zope site. Is this 
possible in a way? I tried to do that with the return value but it 
didn't work...


any ideas?

System: SuSE linux, zope 2.6.1

Thanks a lot
   mas



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Wed Mar 12 12:01:20 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:01:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help: Finding/Deleting Bad Object from ZODB (Data.fs)
In-Reply-To: <008401c2e881$dae967f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <56AB3CF6-5482-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

I have been getting a POSKeyError when trying to list my Members 
directory through the ZMI. I backed up everything packed the ZODB and 
turned on debugging. Looks like there is a bad object.

When I run fstest.py:
119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not matchtransaction 
id 0x034ac5e367948900

When I run it in debug mode I see it is this object:
\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce

I grep'd on both of those things in my Data.fs but cannot find it.  So, 
how do I (or should I) delete that object?

BZ



From darran.edmundson@anu.edu.au  Wed Mar 12 12:18:49 2003
From: darran.edmundson@anu.edu.au (darran.edmundson@anu.edu.au)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:18:49 GMT
Subject: [Zope] Photo objects catalog-aware?
Message-ID: <200303121218.h2CCImpr011552@sf.anu.edu.au>

Are photo objects catalog aware?  Probably not
as there's no mention of it on:
    http://www.zope.org/Members/rbickers/Photo/README.txt

On a related note, has anyone already modified the code 
to use the PythonMagick wrapper of ImageMagick:
    http://pythonmagick.procoders.net/
rather than pipes.

Cheers,
Darran.


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From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar 12 12:58:58 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:58:58 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help: Finding/Deleting Bad Object from ZODB (Data.fs)
In-Reply-To: <56AB3CF6-5482-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <63DC74F3-548A-11D7-87B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

have you tried the debugger? you can find out more about the object 
that way. suppose you are in the debugger and the zope root is bound to 
app::

app._p_jar['\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce']

that grabs the object "directly" and you might be able to find out more 
that way.

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003, at 07:01 US/Eastern, BZ wrote:

> I have been getting a POSKeyError when trying to list my Members 
> directory through the ZMI. I backed up everything packed the ZODB and 
> turned on debugging. Looks like there is a bad object.
>
> When I run fstest.py:
> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not 
> matchtransaction id 0x034ac5e367948900
>
> When I run it in debug mode I see it is this object:
> \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce
>
> I grep'd on both of those things in my Data.fs but cannot find it.  
> So, how do I (or should I) delete that object?
>
> BZ
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )



From jwashin@vt.edu  Wed Mar 12 13:01:30 2003
From: jwashin@vt.edu (Jim Washington)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:01:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Giving out STDOUT
In-Reply-To: <3E6F0D8E.3090807@semafor.ch>
References: <3E6F0D8E.3090807@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <3E6F2FAA.5030908@vt.edu>

Sorin Marti wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I wrote an external method which compiles a TeX-Source with latex2html. 
> It's very simple... it only calls the command with
> 
> os.system('latex2html /path/to/uploaded_files/%s' %file.filename)
> 
> This command causes an output like "This is latex2html version..." and 
> so on.
> 
> Now I want to give out this Output in a Textarea on a zope site. Is this 
> possible in a way? I tried to do that with the return value but it 
> didn't work...
> 
> 

You may wish to consult the python documentation about the os.popen 
functions.  They can return stdin, stderr, stdout, etc.

-- Jim Washington



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Wed Mar 12 13:40:56 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 07:40:56 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] Help: Finding/Deleting Bad Object from ZODB (Data.fs)
In-Reply-To: <63DC74F3-548A-11D7-87B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <56AB3CF6-5482-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
 <63DC74F3-548A-11D7-87B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <61913.199.67.138.20.1047476456.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Ok... a clue.

I went into the debugger and all I saw was my current session opened.
Look at the cache detail I found the object:

1 '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce'      1 G
Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder.PortalFolder

That is the object I am having problems with, but I have other Portal
Folders which are fine.

Another clue would be great...

BZ

> have you tried the debugger? you can find out more about the object
> that way. suppose you are in the debugger and the zope root is bound to
> app::
>
> app._p_jar['\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce']
>
> that grabs the object "directly" and you might be able to find out more
> that way.
>
> jens
>
>
> On Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003, at 07:01 US/Eastern, BZ wrote:
>
>> I have been getting a POSKeyError when trying to list my Members
>> directory through the ZMI. I backed up everything packed the ZODB and
>> turned on debugging. Looks like there is a bad object.
>>
>> When I run fstest.py:
>> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not
>> matchtransaction id 0x034ac5e367948900
>>
>> When I run it in debug mode I see it is this object:
>> \x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce
>>
>> I grep'd on both of those things in my Data.fs but cannot find it.
>> So, how do I (or should I) delete that object?
>>
>> BZ
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>



From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar 12 14:02:37 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:02:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help: Finding/Deleting Bad Object from ZODB (Data.fs)
In-Reply-To: <61913.199.67.138.20.1047476456.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <480BB945-5493-11D7-87B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

i don't know what you mean by "all i saw was my current session 
opened". have you tried something like...

ob = app._p_jar['\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce']
ob.getPhysicalPath()

etc...  ?

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 12, 2003, at 08:40 US/Eastern, BZ wrote:

> Ok... a clue.
>
> I went into the debugger and all I saw was my current session opened.
> Look at the cache detail I found the object:
>
> 1 '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce'      1 G
> Products.CMFCore.PortalFolder.PortalFolder
>
> That is the object I am having problems with, but I have other Portal
> Folders which are fine.
>
> Another clue would be great...
>
> BZ
>
>> have you tried the debugger? you can find out more about the object
>> that way. suppose you are in the debugger and the zope root is bound 
>> to
>> app::
>>
>> app._p_jar['\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\xef\xce']
>>
>> that grabs the object "directly" and you might be able to find out 
>> more
>> that way.
>>
>> jens



From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Wed Mar 12 07:35:08 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:35:08 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] HTML product?
Message-ID: <20030312073508.18747.qmail@web15201.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!
I often save useful web page down to disk for an
archive, or make CHM by some toolkit. Recently i setup
my own zope site, and i wonder whether there is
already a product that can pick up the data saved from
IE and catalog them to make it possible for google
like search?
any idea or suggestion?
 

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From mvalente@ruido-visual.pt  Wed Mar 12 14:04:33 2003
From: mvalente@ruido-visual.pt (Mario Valente)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:04:33 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope wishlist/feature requests
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.20030312140433.00ad9a90@mail.ruido-visual.pt>


  Hi:

  I dont know if there's someplace/tracker where zopers can input
 their feature requests or wishlists.

  We have some free time available that we thought might be 
 dedicated to do some needed Zope feature and would like to
 know what might be useful. 

  From past msgs and from the top of my head:

  - Web services (XMLRPC,SOAP,WSDL,UDDI)
  - POP/IMAP client
  - Usenet client
  - Project management

  Anyone care to add/suggest others ? Or a place to find them ?

  C U!

  -- Mario Valente



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Wed Mar 12 14:13:27 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:13:27 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Help: Finding/Deleting Bad Object from ZODB (Data.fs)
In-Reply-To: <56AB3CF6-5482-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
References: <56AB3CF6-5482-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <200303121413.27649.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Wednesday 12 March 2003 12:01 pm, BZ wrote:
> I have been getting a POSKeyError when trying to list my Members
> directory through the ZMI. I backed up everything packed the ZODB and
> turned on debugging. Looks like there is a bad object.
>
> When I run fstest.py:
> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not matchtransaction
> id 0x034ac5e367948900

These are hex encoded timestamps. It indicates that part of a transaction from 
Tue Feb  4 20:46:17 2003 is mixed up with the transaction record from 
Sun Feb  9 12:51:24 2003

Do these times seem significant?

> So,
> how do I (or should I) delete that object?

This is indicating a bad FileStorage, not a bad object. Deleting an object 
might not make the problem go away, and might make it worse.

A few people have been reporting this recently, and sadly noone has a good 
answer for this FileStorage problem. If you can reproduce the problem 
starting with a clean FileStorage then I am sure a FileStorage developer will 
take a look.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From contact_tonico@yahoo.de  Wed Mar 12 14:18:29 2003
From: contact_tonico@yahoo.de (Tonico Strasser)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:18:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope wishlist/feature requests
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20030312140433.00ad9a90@mail.ruido-visual.pt>
References: <3.0.3.32.20030312140433.00ad9a90@mail.ruido-visual.pt>
Message-ID: <b4nffe$oi5$1@main.gmane.org>

Mario Valente wrote:
>   From past msgs and from the top of my head:
> 
>   - Web services (XMLRPC,SOAP,WSDL,UDDI)
>   - POP/IMAP client
>   - Usenet client
>   - Project management
> 
>   Anyone care to add/suggest others ? Or a place to find them ?
> 
Emil Email Client
   http://www.zope.org/Members/andorsch/Emil_Email_Client

Tonico


-- 
Tonico Strasser, WebDesigner

Contact me
   mailto:contact_tonico@yahoo.de

Visit my HomePage
   http://Tonico.FreeZope.org









From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Wed Mar 12 14:16:55 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:16:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope wishlist/feature requests
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20030312140433.00ad9a90@mail.ruido-visual.pt>
References: <3.0.3.32.20030312140433.00ad9a90@mail.ruido-visual.pt>
Message-ID: <1828034186.1047482215@[192.168.0.2]>


--On Mittwoch, 12. M=E4rz 2003 14:04 Uhr +0000 Mario Valente=20
<mvalente@ruido-visual.pt> wrote:

>
>
>   Hi:
>
>   I dont know if there's someplace/tracker where zopers can input
>  their feature requests or wishlists.
>
>   We have some free time available that we thought might be
>  dedicated to do some needed Zope feature and would like to
>  know what might be useful.
>
>   From past msgs and from the top of my head:
>
>   - Web services (XMLRPC,SOAP,WSDL,UDDI)

Zope support XMLRPC out-of-the-box.


>   - POP/IMAP client
>   - Usenet client
>   - Project management

This stuff is very much application level stuff and not covered
by the Zope core. So don't expect that this functionality will appears
as part of the Zope core.


-aj



From jan.maska@systinet.com  Wed Mar 12 14:19:18 2003
From: jan.maska@systinet.com (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Jan_Ma=B9ka?=)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:19:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] OpenFlow hints (?)
Message-ID: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBAENNCBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>

Hi all,
is anybody experienced in OpenFlow?

I'm researching it just now and I find the documentation less than weak.
There's no example, demo of any kind..
I'd be grateful if any of you could give me a few hints on how to get
started with simple workflow setup, roles assignment,  etc.

Thanks in advance..

-Mac


===============================
 Jan Maska, web developer
 Systinet, Prague(CZ)
 jan.maska@systinet.com
 tel.:(+420)608453492

 visit http://www.systinet.com
===============================




From einar.ness.jensen@hf.ntnu.no  Wed Mar 12 15:39:03 2003
From: einar.ness.jensen@hf.ntnu.no (Einar =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E6ss?= Jensen)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:39:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] dtml-var with a propertys reference
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030312163110.02a450f0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>

In one of my zclasses I have a property "link_file" which holds a=20
filename/objectID.

if this property says "alit.html", then In my dtml-method I want do do=20
something like:

<dtml-var link_file>

and then it should render the content of "alit.html", but of course it only=
=20
renders the text "alit.html".

what is the right syntax to reference the object which the property=20
references to and not the text?


Best regards,
Einar N=E6ss Jensen
--=20
Einar N=E6ss Jensen
Avdelingsingeni=F8r EDB-HF
735 90750



From lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 12 15:52:01 2003
From: lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com (LIM TIENAIK)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:52:01 +0000
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BAY1-F146Pkh92XuHzB00035891@hotmail.com>

Hi,

	I would like to ask for a little help with the photo and photo folder 
product. I have installed it on zope, but adding photo dont seems to work 
with either dtml or python. The syntax i used to add a photo is <dtml-call 
"manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title, file)"> and the 
syntax i used in python is 
context.manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title,file). Those 2 
ways dont work and the error message from zope i receive is
Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: read
Traceback (innermost last):
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
150, in publish_module
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
114, in publish
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 158, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
    (Object: skyheavens)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
98, in publish
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, 
in mapply
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
39, in call_object
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, 
line 252, in __call__
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, 
line 283, in _bindAndExec
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program 
Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\PythonScripts\PythonScript.py, line 
291, in _exec
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
    (Info: ({'script': <PythonScript instance at 01849B40>, 'context': 
<Folder instance at 01783810>, 'container': <Folder instance at 01783810>, 
'traverse_subpath': []}, ('picuture', 'a new picture', 
'C:\\WINDOWS\\Desktop\\shirt-design\\cover2.jpg'), {}, None))
  File Script (Python), line 1, in addPhotoScript
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\Photo\Photo.py, line 
654, in manage_addPhoto
AttributeError: (see above)


I hope that you can help me with this. Sorry to trouble you so much and hope 
for your reply soon. Thank you.

_________________________________________________________________
Are you in love? Find a date on MSN Personals http://match.msn.com.my/



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar 12 16:28:18 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:28:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Best way to run multiple sites in one Server
In-Reply-To: <1047504047.2806.46.camel@cmo.internal.intermatik.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030312080401.02cd6b28@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 01:22 PM 3/12/2003, Mico Siahaan wrote:
>I have just been handed over a server with some sites in it (not many :)
>). I wonder what is the best way to run multiple sites on one computer?

Determining what's "best" is going to depend a lot on your specific 
requirements.

Even so, here are some things that are generally worth considering:

1. Running a proxy (Apache/Squid) in front of Zope is a very good idea in 
any public web situation.
2. Running a bare (unproxied) VHM is not a particularly secure solution.
3. ProxyPass and RewriteRule directives are (IMO) the most painless ways to 
serve Zope content from Apache.
4. Zope can be configured to only take requests from a particular IP 
(localhost, in your case).

Determinations about fancier stuff like number of processes and ZEO are 
going to be heavily dependent on your requirements, environment and 
resources.

I'd start off running Zope behind a plain Apache with vhosts and see if 
that performs well enough for you.  That may well be all you need.

HTH,

Dylan



From steve@reidmcmahon.com  Wed Mar 12 16:49:30 2003
From: steve@reidmcmahon.com (Steve McMahon)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 08:49:30 -0800
Subject: [Zope] iCalendar Projects?
Message-ID: <3E6F651A.3060805@reidmcmahon.com>

Does anyone know if the are any active Python or Zope iCalendar 
projects? I found a couple of zombies on SourceForge, but nothing more.



From Oliver@tekk.dk  Wed Mar 12 17:22:27 2003
From: Oliver@tekk.dk (Oliver Marx)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:22:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Best way to run multiple sites in one Server
In-Reply-To: <1047504047.2806.46.camel@cmo.internal.intermatik.com>
References: <1047504047.2806.46.camel@cmo.internal.intermatik.com>
Message-ID: <3E6F6CD3.9020801@tekk.dk>

Mico Siahaan wrote:
> Well, it's a sys admin newbie question ;)
> 
> I have just been handed over a server with some sites in it (not many :)
> ). I wonder what is the best way to run multiple sites on one computer?
> 
> I heard some ways: multiple zope server running in simultaneously, using
> virtual monster, using PCGI, using Fast CGI. What are pros and cons for
> each way? What is the best way to run multiple zope sites in one
> computer? Are there any reading materials I can read about this matter?
> (I think the old Zope Administrator Guide is not enough :) )
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
There is no "best way".
It all depends on what you want to host.

We prefer one-site=one-zope-instance, but that will in most situations 
be equivalent to shooting birds with canons.

We prefer Apache, mod_rewrite frontend and Zope + virtual host monster.
Try to avoid CGI - it is IMHO slow.

\Oliver



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From gilles@pilotsystems.net  Wed Mar 12 17:56:32 2003
From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:56:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] DHTML Popup menu bar built from content
Message-ID: <236401c2e8c0$b7bd0c20$0701a8c0@provence>

Hi,

I have deeply tried to build a DHTML/Javascript menu bar based on the Zope
content rather than having a fixed (hard coded in javascript) menu content.

Have some of you experiences in building such stuffs ?

Thanks in advance for your tips

--Gilles

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http://www.pilotsystems.net

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75009 Paris
Tel (direct): +33 1  44 53 25 93
Tel (standard): +33 1 44 53 05 55
Fax : +33 1 44 53 04 44

mailto:gilles@pilotsystems.net




From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Wed Mar 12 18:11:59 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 12 Mar 2003 18:11:59 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Cannot redistribute ZClass product
Message-ID: <1047492718.748.4.camel@pc-dt>

For some reason, I packed my ZClass product and installed it on a new
machine. I thought I gave myself the permissions to modify and further
redistribute the product, but alas, when I tried to pack it again on my
new machine, it told me that I didn't have permission to redistribute
the product.

1. Did I screw the packing up or does this happen normally?
2. How do I hack my product to be able to edit and pack it again for
distribution?

Thanks,
Pieter



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 18:17:43 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:17:43 -0600
Subject: [Zope] DHTML Popup menu bar built from content
References: <236401c2e8c0$b7bd0c20$0701a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <3E6F79C7.8090308@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I have deeply tried to build a DHTML/Javascript menu bar based on the Zope
>content rather than having a fixed (hard coded in javascript) menu content.
>
I generally try to stay away from the monstrosity of DHTML, and the 
quirkiness of JavaScript.

But building popup or whatnot menus from CSS isn't very bad at all. The 
content generation is especially easy. You can very simply write a 
tree-walker in Zope to generate something like:

<div id="menubar">
 <div class="toplevel">Top Level A
   <span class="item">Content</span><span class="item">Content2</span>
 </div>
 <div class="toplevel">Top Level B
   <span class="item">Content</span><span class="item">Content2</span>
 </div>
</div>

(or if you really want to be clever, use unordered lists and anchor 
hrefs to look better in non-style browsers)

and style the id of 'menubar', and classes 'toplevel', 'item', and maybe 
'expandable item' to get a fully hierarchical popup menu system.

Take a look at http://devedge.netscape.com/ for an example of the 
latter. There are other CSS sites around that would love to show you how 
also.

        --jcc



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar 12 18:25:38 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:25:38 -0800
Subject: [Zope] DHTML Popup menu bar built from content
In-Reply-To: <236401c2e8c0$b7bd0c20$0701a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030312102009.02cf3ac8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 09:56 AM 3/12/2003, Gilles Lenfant wrote:
>I have deeply tried to build a DHTML/Javascript menu bar based on the Zope
>content rather than having a fixed (hard coded in javascript) menu content.

OK....

>Have some of you experiences in building such stuffs ?

Sure.


>Thanks in advance for your tips


My best advice is to code up a static version first.  Test that it works 
outside of Zope before bothering to make it dynamic.  All Zope does (or 
should do) is insert values at different points in your CSS or JavaScript 
code.  The difficult part here is getting the DHTML code right... once 
you've got that refined, Zope will happily serve it up for you and swap 
stuff in or out as required.

HTH,

Dylan



From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Wed Mar 12 18:30:41 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:30:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Complex <dtml-in> query sorting
Message-ID: <200303121930.41469.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

  Hi,

I have to use a <dtml-in> code to handle a quite complex thing :
 - I have an SQL method, which retrieves an object OID ; this OID is a 
globally unique identifier, which is cataloged and used in all my objects.
 - I have a Zope method at my site root, called "getObject(oid)", which for a 
given OID retrieve the corresponding Zope object
 - each object also have a custom method called "getSortValue()" which 
retrieves a sort value !!

My code (in a DTML method) is like :

<dtml-in "[getObject(record['oid']) for record in sql_method(params)]" 
sort_expr="getSortValue()">

The <dtml-in> loop works well and retrieves my object, but the "sort_expr" 
attribute doesn't work and so results are not sorted ; it seems that 
"getSortValue()" is not called on the good object...
What should I have to do for this to work ???

Thanks for any help,

  Thierry

-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 18:33:27 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:33:27 -0600
Subject: [Zope] New Product Help
References: <20030312073332.51045.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <3E6F7D77.5070900@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I am trying to create a new zope product. I need to make a root level folder but have a function within my product called to approve access and changes to that folder. But, I don't even know how to make the root level folder. I would really appreciate help.
>
I really have no idea what you're going at, so I'll just spout some 
possibly helpful stuff:

- there is one and can be only one root, and it is inherent in Zope. You 
cannot change this (without suitable hacking.) All Zope objects are 
children (of some degree removed) of the root folder.

- if you have a product that needs Folderish capabilities, consider 
subclassing Folder or ObjectManager. Then you can ask your Product to 
contain things, and control what it looks like and what it does.

- to add a Folder to another folder, you must say 
folder.manage_addFolder(id, title) Usually 'folder' is 'self' when 
you're inside a folderish product, or 'context' when in a script or 
method. To add a folder just below the root (a top-level folder) you may 
have to do 'restrictedTraverse('/')' or something like that. You cannot 
add a folder to a non-folderish object, though you can make a Folder an 
attribute of any object, though it won't be visible in the ZMI.

- consider whether you need a Product. Unless you need to do something 
complex or need to stamp out a bunch of them, don't bother.

If you can be more specific we can probably give you better advise.

        --jcc



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Mar 12 18:52:00 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:52:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: dtml-var with a propertys reference
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030312163110.02a450f0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030312163110.02a450f0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <b4nvk2$nlm$1@main.gmane.org>

Einar Næss Jensen wrote:
> 
> In one of my zclasses I have a property "link_file" which holds a 
> filename/objectID.
> 
> if this property says "alit.html", then In my dtml-method I want do do 
> something like:
> 
> <dtml-var link_file>
> 
> and then it should render the content of "alit.html", but of course it 
> only renders the text "alit.html".
> 
> what is the right syntax to reference the object which the property 
> references to and not the text?

<dtml-var "_.getitem(link_file,1)">

  should give you the rendered object.

-mj




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 19:00:20 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:00:20 -0600
Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C106@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <3E6F83C4.7070902@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm also very curious about performance on dynamic content. My experience
>has been, and I think I'm not alone in this, that even with my rarefied
>understanding of the capabilities of Zope, I find myself exploiting it's
>advantages. I don't think I have a single static page on my site. I think
>it's more to do with mindset. I just don't think in terms of "static" pages,
>I'm more concerned with the logic than the presentation. In fact some of my
>pages are extremely complex. Perhaps much more than they need to be, but I'm
>still learning.
>
Indeed. That test page was indeed one of the few times I've ever used 
static content in Zope.

One of my goals for the future is to test the dynamic capabilties better 
-- I used static and simple include pages to start with because they are 
(surprise) easier to set up, especially in translation between 
DTML/ZPT/JSP/SSI. This will force Apache out and allow JBoss in. Time is 
all it will take to set up a more realistic test suite.

In fact, I suspect that one of the reasons for the speed differences in 
my tests is that Zope treats all requests (even static ones) with the 
same procedures regarding security, REQUEST parsing, traversal, et al. 
Apache and the Java servers are doing few if any of these things: when I 
make them jump these hoops in the future, we'll see some better comparisons.

>Another comment I need to make - this is through experience with my manager.
>On http://www.zope.org/Members/BwanaZulia/zope_benchmarks/benchmarks.html
>the key statement is "Tomcat is 2x or 3x faster than Zope when execute an
>SQL query", the key words being "SQL query". Not pages. Even I missed that
>first. I'm stating the obvious here, but sometimes even the obvious needs to
>be restated.
>
I've stayed away from RDBs so far, but

>And a suggestion - I'd be very interested to know if the above was (still)
>true for DB access.
>
I can definitely put this on the list. In fact, I already have. It may 
take a bit to implement (a database is a major component.)

            --jcc





From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Mar 12 19:02:26 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:02:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Complex <dtml-in> query sorting
In-Reply-To: <200303121930.41469.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303121930.41469.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <b4o07k$r2q$1@main.gmane.org>

Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> My code (in a DTML method) is like :
> 
> <dtml-in "[getObject(record['oid']) for record in sql_method(params)]" 
> sort_expr="getSortValue()">
> 
> The <dtml-in> loop works well and retrieves my object, but the "sort_expr" 
> attribute doesn't work and so results are not sorted ; it seems that 
> "getSortValue()" is not called on the good object...

As far as I know sort_expr in dtml-in means: evaluate the expression and 
use the result as sort-key. So if you have a variable skey in your 
namespace and use <dtml-in ... sort_expr="skey"> you get different 
sortings depending on the value of skey (title, id, ...).

You need an already sorted sequence. See ZopeHelp->ApiReference->sequence.

-mj




From dave-zope@dnh.sk.ca  Wed Mar 12 19:16:27 2003
From: dave-zope@dnh.sk.ca (Dave Hall)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:16:27 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Best way to run multiple sites in one Server
In-Reply-To: <1047504047.2806.46.camel@cmo.internal.intermatik.com>; from mico@intermatik.co.id on Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:22:38PM -0500
References: <1047504047.2806.46.camel@cmo.internal.intermatik.com>
Message-ID: <20030312131627.A28199@dnh.sk.ca>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 04:22:38PM -0500, Mico Siahaan wrote:
> Well, it's a sys admin newbie question ;)
> 
> I have just been handed over a server with some sites in it (not many :)
> ). I wonder what is the best way to run multiple sites on one computer?
> 
> I heard some ways: multiple zope server running in simultaneously, using
> virtual monster, using PCGI, using Fast CGI. What are pros and cons for
> each way? What is the best way to run multiple zope sites in one
> computer? Are there any reading materials I can read about this matter?
> (I think the old Zope Administrator Guide is not enough :) )
> 

If you want multiple "virtual" servers with content stored on a single
Zope server, then Virtual Host Monster is what you want.  Presently I do
this with Apache as the front end, using re-write/proxy to talk to a Zope
server behind a firewall.  If the Zope server is on the same box, PCGI
should work too.

In Apache, you just map everything from a particular virtual host to the
respective path on the Zope server.  There are several examples of how to
do this, just search on Virtual Host Monster and look for Apache RewriteRule
configuration stuff.



-- 

Dave

===============================================================
| <- You must be smarter than this stick to ride
     the Internet		-Mike Handler
===============================================================


From ed@greengraphics.net  Thu Mar 13 03:11:53 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:11:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] xml-rpc illegal characters
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303121907550.13926-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

I've got a xml-rpc error that has creeped in, and I'm curious what the
standard procedure is for making sure this does not happen.  All of these
xml-rpc fields are user input areas, and are pretty much not protected.
Users can enter any charaters they want...  So far it has been working
well, but now I've got this:

Syntax error at line 4324: illegal character in content

To be expected I guess...

So, my question is, what are people using for stripping out these
characters before sending the data over xml-rpc.  Or, put another way,
what characters are permitted?  Should I just strip out everything that is
not alphanumeric?

Thanks!

-e-

-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000



From kosh@aesaeion.com  Wed Mar 12 19:16:01 2003
From: kosh@aesaeion.com (kosh)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:16:01 -0700
Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available
In-Reply-To: <3E6F83C4.7070902@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C106@AUHEXCH> <3E6F83C4.7070902@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <200303121216.01801.kosh@aesaeion.com>

On Wednesday 12 March 2003 12:00 pm, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> >I'm also very curious about performance on dynamic content. My experience
> >has been, and I think I'm not alone in this, that even with my rarefied
> >understanding of the capabilities of Zope, I find myself exploiting it's
> >advantages. I don't think I have a single static page on my site. I think
> >it's more to do with mindset. I just don't think in terms of "static"
> > pages, I'm more concerned with the logic than the presentation. In fact
> > some of my pages are extremely complex. Perhaps much more than they need
> > to be, but I'm still learning.
>
> Indeed. That test page was indeed one of the few times I've ever used
> static content in Zope.
>
> One of my goals for the future is to test the dynamic capabilties better
> -- I used static and simple include pages to start with because they are
> (surprise) easier to set up, especially in translation between
> DTML/ZPT/JSP/SSI. This will force Apache out and allow JBoss in. Time is
> all it will take to set up a more realistic test suite.

Just for a simple comparison could you compare python scripts doing the same 
thing to DTML and ZPT also. I have done some of my own tests and found that 
python scripts are usually 4-10x faster then DTML or ZPT especially when 
things get complex. I have recently started moving some stuff from DTML to 
python scripts for speed and it has worked well.


From bz@bwanazulia.com  Wed Mar 12 19:33:37 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:33:37 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] Help: Finding/Deleting Bad Object from ZODB (Data.fs)
In-Reply-To: <200303121413.27649.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <56AB3CF6-5482-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
 <200303121413.27649.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <43676.199.67.140.20.1047497617.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Bad filestorage eh?

I was going to use fsrecover.py (need to download, not included with Zope
2.5.1) but wanted to see if there was anything else first.

I read the other thread about POSKeyErrors and didn't find a solution.

BZ

> On Wednesday 12 March 2003 12:01 pm, BZ wrote:
>> I have been getting a POSKeyError when trying to list my Members
>> directory through the ZMI. I backed up everything packed the ZODB and
>> turned on debugging. Looks like there is a bad object.
>>
>> When I run fstest.py:
>> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not matchtransaction
>> id 0x034ac5e367948900
>
> These are hex encoded timestamps. It indicates that part of a transaction
> from
> Tue Feb  4 20:46:17 2003 is mixed up with the transaction record from
> Sun Feb  9 12:51:24 2003
>
> Do these times seem significant?
>
>> So,
>> how do I (or should I) delete that object?
>
> This is indicating a bad FileStorage, not a bad object. Deleting an object
> might not make the problem go away, and might make it worse.
>
> A few people have been reporting this recently, and sadly noone has a good
> answer for this FileStorage problem. If you can reproduce the problem
> starting with a clean FileStorage then I am sure a FileStorage developer
> will
> take a look.
>
> --
> Toby Dickenson
> http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mark@dimensional.com  Wed Mar 12 19:58:12 2003
From: mark@dimensional.com (Mark Gibson)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 12:58:12 -0700
Subject: [Zope] xml-rpc illegal characters
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303121907550.13926-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <3E6F9154.2000904@dimensional.com>

I've been using xmlrpclib.Binary to encode the strings before I send them.

Mark
Ed Colmar wrote:
> I've got a xml-rpc error that has creeped in, and I'm curious what the
> standard procedure is for making sure this does not happen.  All of these
> xml-rpc fields are user input areas, and are pretty much not protected.
> Users can enter any charaters they want...  So far it has been working
> well, but now I've got this:
> 
> Syntax error at line 4324: illegal character in content
> 
> To be expected I guess...
> 
> So, my question is, what are people using for stripping out these
> characters before sending the data over xml-rpc.  Or, put another way,
> what characters are permitted?  Should I just strip out everything that is
> not alphanumeric?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -e-
> 





From christof.robert@wanadoo.fr  Wed Mar 12 18:52:34 2003
From: christof.robert@wanadoo.fr (robert christophe)
Date: 12 Mar 2003 19:52:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] iCalendar Projects?
In-Reply-To: <3E6F651A.3060805@reidmcmahon.com>
References: <3E6F651A.3060805@reidmcmahon.com>
Message-ID: <1047495154.1718.2.camel@station>

Le mer 12/03/2003 =E0 17:49, Steve McMahon a =E9crit :
>=20
> Does anyone know if the are any active Python or Zope iCalendar=20
> projects? I found a couple of zombies on SourceForge, but nothing more.
>=20

Look at CPS-PROJECT=20

http://www.cps-project.org/

and for iCalendar=20

http://www.nuxeo.org/groupwaresuite


>=20
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From ed@greengraphics.net  Thu Mar 13 04:52:37 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:52:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <1047342132.20063.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303122046130.13926-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Thanks again for all the tips!

Heres what I ended up with for anyone else trying to do the same thing:

--------------

I made an external method:

def formsender(self, url, params):
    """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an external
server """
    import urllib
    encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
    print url
    print encodedParams
    try:
        result = urllib.FancyURLopener().open(url, encodedParams)
        urllib.FancyURLopener().close()
        return result.read()
    except:
        return 0


---------------

Then in dtml I placed this code on the page that the form points to:

<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('params', REQUEST.form)">
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('url','http://www.whateversite.com/cgi?')">
<dtml-var "formsender(url, params)">



---------------

-ed-





-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 21:12:13 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:12:13 -0600
Subject: [Zope] zope benchmarks now available
In-Reply-To: <200303121216.01801.kosh@aesaeion.com>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C106@AUHEXCH> <3E6F83C4.7070902@jcameroncooper.com> <200303121216.01801.kosh@aesaeion.com>
Message-ID: <3E6FA2AD.4080009@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Just for a simple comparison could you compare python scripts doing the same 
>thing to DTML and ZPT also. I have done some of my own tests and found that 
>python scripts are usually 4-10x faster then DTML or ZPT especially when 
>things get complex. I have recently started moving some stuff from DTML to 
>python scripts for speed and it has worked well.
>
When we get to more advanced computations, I'll naturally use Python 
Scripts.

I'll even make a few tests for presentation using Python Scripts, since 
you ask.

       --jcc



From jordi_yc@lycos.es  Wed Mar 12 21:27:12 2003
From: jordi_yc@lycos.es (Jordi)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:27:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3E6FA630.5050600@lycos.es>

Luton, Alex wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
>user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
>can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
>product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?
>
>Thanks
>  
>
The product you are looking for is called BalkTalk

More info at http://sourceforge.net/projects/backtalk/

HTH

>  
>




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 21:41:27 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:41:27 -0600
Subject: [Zope] New Product Help
In-Reply-To: <20030312193759.81702.qmail@mail.com>
References: <20030312193759.81702.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <3E6FA987.6070208@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I said exactly what I am trying to do. I need a program that creates a root folder in Zope. I need a function in that program to be called to authorized access to that folder.
>
>I would like to create this in some way without modifying the core code for Zope. I don't know whether that means I need a product or interface or something else.
>
>I would appreciate some help with this.
>  
>
A point of terminology, just to make sure we're communicating the same 
concepts: there is and can only be only one root in a Zope installation. 
You cannot have more than one in an installation. Dead impossible. 
Perhaps you can understand why it's confusing to say you want to add a 
"root folder". If what you're aiming for is a direct child of that root, 
a top-level folder, if you will, that's not so tough.

E.g. say we have the following:

/   (the root)
-- folder1
  -- object1a
-- folder2
  -- folder2a
  -- folder2b
-- folder3
-- object1

folder1, folder2, folder3, and object1 are all children of the root, or 
top-level objects. They are what you see when you look at 
http://localhost/manage . The rest are not.

If what you want to do is be able to create some folder on the same 
level as folder1, and also have a method to do something to it, all you 
need is:

Python Script folderCreate
parameters: id, title

here.manage_addFolder(id,title)
# you can do whatever else you need to do here,
# like restrict permissions
return "Folder " + id + " created"  # you can also return the rendering 
of some object or do a redirect here

Put this in the highest level you're operating on (in this case the 
root), and you can call it to create your folder in whatever context you 
call it on. In an HTML form, an action of "/folderCreate" along with id 
and title parameters would create a folder with your id and title in the 
root. An action of /folder1/folderCreate would make the folder a child 
of folder1. The equivalents in Python Scripts would be 
root.folderCreate(id,title), and root.folder1.folderCreate(id,title).

You can make a similar Python Script to manipulate security. You might 
change the permission for a certain role or add a local role or whatever 
it is you want to do.

This could also be a Product: subclass Folder, override Folder's 
security with your settings, have the manage_add... set up whatever else 
you need, and add a method that changes that security. You could then 
call manage_add... directly or through the ZMI to make your new type of 
folder.





From davis@mccalldesign.com  Wed Mar 12 22:31:52 2003
From: davis@mccalldesign.com (Davis Marques)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 14:31:52 -0800
Subject: [Zope] monitoring Zope with Daemontools (svscan)
Message-ID: <3E6FB558.2000200@mccalldesign.com>

I'm having some trouble getting my Zope 2.5.1 to work with Daemontools. 
 I can get EITHER zope OR the logging service started, but never both 
for some reason.  When Zope is running, it doesn't respond to any 
requests.  Here's my ps output:

 1092 ?        S      0:00 svscan /service
 1093 ?        S      0:00  \_ supervise zope
 1246 ?        Z      0:00  |   \_ [python <defunct>]
 1094 ?        S      0:00  \_ supervise log
 1098 ?        S      0:00      \_ /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
/var/log/zopedebug

I don't know why, but in this case, Zope died and the logging service 
started.

Here's my /service_zope/run file:

#! /bin/sh
# Frank Tegtmeyer, fte@lightwerk.com
# http://www.lightwerk.com/zope/monitoring
#
exec 2>&1
echo "------- start by supervise -------"

PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
reldir=/usr/local/zope
INST_HOME=`cd $reldir; pwd`
export INST_HOME
exec setuidgid zope /usr/local/zope/bin/python \
   $INST_HOME/z2.py \
   -m -d -w 80 -f 21 -F '' -Z ''

Here's my /service_zope/log/run file

#!/bin/sh
# Frank Tegtmeyer, fte@lightwerk.com
# http://www.lightwerk.com/zope/monitoring
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid zopelog /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
/var/log/zopedebug

As you can see, I've done some editing to fit my configuration, and have 
been mucking around with the options in an attempt to get it to work.

Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,


Davis Marques



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 12 22:43:02 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:43:02 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Understand ZODB Query?
In-Reply-To: <008401c2e881$dae967f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
References: <008401c2e881$dae967f0$4664a8c0@HTAN>
Message-ID: <3E6FB7F6.1020805@jcameroncooper.com>

>
> you're right, i'm still thinking tabularly.

It can be a hurdle. In a relational system, your data is pretty much 
global, and you relate it by keys and the other tricks of the RDB. In an 
object system like Zope, you (can) store information hierarchically. 
It's containment (sometimes with reference) and context that do the work 
here.

(There are middle grounds like EJBs, where there are objects, but 
they're all really in the same pile, and have no real containment.)

>  I'm basically looking for ways how to do database query (select, 
> update, create, etc).
> Of course i'm still thinkin in 'relation database' way as I'm just 
> starting with OODB.

There are analogues:

"select" basically means "find these records". In an object system, you 
can either contain things so that this is intrinsic or nearly so (by 
design) and do some simple filtering on the results or do some sort of 
search (see below).

"update" is just a method called on an object you already have a handle on.

"create" is a method called on an object that can contain other objects. 
You must have a handle on it, too.

>  From my latest reading, the ZODB works like a 'dictionary':
> -In this way, I can save any objects into this dictionary.
> -the key for the dictionary is the 'unique key' while the value is the 
> object.
> -In order to perform any query, I need to parse through the dictionary

If you're working low-level at the ZODB, that's right. But since you're 
probably getting at it through Zope, it's better to think of it as an 
object tree (almost like a filesystem, but don't get too wrapped up in 
that metaphor.) Even forget the fact that there's storage behind it and 
pretend like you're looking at the guts of a running program (which you 
are!) To find things in this environment, you can walk the tree 
yourself, or get someone else (like ZCatalog) to do it for you.

>  My questions:
> -wouldn't it be too slow?

Not if you do it right. If all your relevant records are contained in 
some object, then you merely need ask it for its contents. ZCatalog is 
an index based system, which is pretty darn fast since all the hard work 
is done ahead of time.

> -How if I don't need any key?
> -How if I have multiple keys?

The whole key question is kind of orthogonal to Zope. All objects really 
have one and only one unique key: their path. Everything else is 
application-level.

> This doesn't seem so easy.

It's probably too easy. You just aren't used to thinking about it this way.

I'll do a little summary since the above is so scattered:

Zope is really a live object system which happens to have a persistent 
backing. But forget that, and think like you're in a program and not a 
database. You can add your data by

1) creating a Product whose instances store a single record, and adding 
a heap of these in one or more folders, perhaps hierarchically. These 
can be seen and edited via the ZMI and are catalogable (automatically if 
you do it right.) This is what the default Products do. You might have a 
Person product, and folders for each Office, with instances of Persons 
in them.

2) creating a Product with attributes that store your data and retrieve 
it. Say a products People which has a dictionary of all the people you 
add to it, and methods for adding, finding, and changing people. You may 
have to tell the persistence machinery when things have changed. This 
data can't be cataloged, and you have to take care of the machinery 
yourself. If you implement by dictionary, this can be very relational; 
if you implement by objects, not so much.

3) Using existing products to do this for you, by either method above.

You can relate data by

1) parent-child relationships

2) containment of attributes, possibly by unique key

3) holding references to objects, paths to objects, or by using the 
Relationship product.

There. That's a little less scattered. Should be helpful, but please 
don't pretend it's authoritative.

          --jcc



From jamie@audible.transient.net  Wed Mar 12 23:44:06 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:44:06 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <200303120828.54903.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <1047408334.21994.39.camel@slothrop.zope.com> <20030311224813.GB3456@audible.transient.net> <200303120828.54903.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <20030312234406.GA3909@audible.transient.net>

Toby Dickenson wrote:
> There is no amount of reconfiguration that can improve this in Zope2. Zope3 
> promises to fix this, but with modular python components rather than modular 
> unix components. I would be interested in your thoughts on whether this makes 
> a difference.

I don't think modular component libraries are a replacement for
modular programs, or vice versa.  They both have their place, they
both can be good or bad depending on the implementation.  (How's that
for a wishy-washy say-nothing statement. <g>)  I simply haven't looked
seriously at Zope3 yet, because my needs and Zope3's timeline don't
coincide.  So unfortunately any opinons I could offer on Zope3's
direction would be wholely uninformed.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"We must be born with an intuition of mortality.  Before we know the words
 for it, before we know there are words, out we come bloodied and squalling
 with the knowledge that for all the compasses in the world, there's only
 one direction, and time is its only measure."		-Rosencrantz


From aquraishi@skyesystems.com  Thu Mar 13 00:02:13 2003
From: aquraishi@skyesystems.com (Asad Quraishi)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:02:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG error
Message-ID: <3E6FCA85.6050706@skyesystems.com>

I have the latest CMFCollectorNG version installed and working and can 
create a CMFCollectorNG doc without any problem although the user list 
is skewed.  When I try to create an issue however I get the following 
message:

Errot Type
WorkflowException

Error Value
No workflow provides the "request" action.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.



From ausum_studio@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 13 01:31:53 2003
From: ausum_studio@hotmail.com (Ausum Studio)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:31:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] DHTML Popup menu bar built from content
References: <236401c2e8c0$b7bd0c20$0701a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <OE57uaCBnx26wp4sdim00009650@hotmail.com>

I've written a product that takes over these tasks fluently, based on a
licensed javascript menu, that I code-named as "Pilot" (before I got to know
a zope-related company, Pilot Systems, existed) ;)

I'd like to release it but as it uses this licensed stuff, I think I can't,
at least in its current version. Anyway I'm planning to release it
independently of the javascript part, so that a user who already owns the
code could upload it and then to perform the bindings to the product,
manually.

For more information, follow the link:
http://www.zope.org/Members/ausum/Pilot/index_html



Ausum




----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles Lenfant" <gilles@pilotsystems.net>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:56 PM
Subject: [Zope] DHTML Popup menu bar built from content


> Hi,
>
> I have deeply tried to build a DHTML/Javascript menu bar based on the Zope
> content rather than having a fixed (hard coded in javascript) menu
content.
>
> Have some of you experiences in building such stuffs ?
>
> Thanks in advance for your tips
>
> --Gilles
>
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>
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>
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From jj@nttmcl.com  Thu Mar 13 02:37:36 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:37:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com>

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?

Yes.

> You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...

Yes.

> I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> code.

All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
(This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.

Thanks, 
-jj

> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > Chris, 
> > 
> > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > -jj
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > 
> > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > 
> > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > -jj

-- 
Hacker is to software engineer as 
Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From chrism@zope.com  Thu Mar 13 02:42:51 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 12 Mar 2003 21:42:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com>
Message-ID: <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james>

Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
keys method.  I presume you can use this.

- C


On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > code.
> 
> All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> 
> Thanks, 
> -jj
> 
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > Chris, 
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > 
> > > Best Regards,
> > > -jj
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > 
> > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > -jj
> 
> -- 
> Hacker is to software engineer as 
> Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.




From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Thu Mar 13 03:15:55 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:15:55 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
Message-ID: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!

I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp? 

I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
challenges also like relative slow speed, short of
programmer(compare with java cpp) and short of elite
programming environment (like MS visual studio).

Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?

This is only an crude idea for I have just several
months experience in zope.
Any argument is welcome :)


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From edwardam@interlix.com  Thu Mar 13 04:01:23 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 12 Mar 2003 22:01:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james>
Message-ID: <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Agreed. doesn't this work:


keys = TransientObjectContainerInstance.keys()
for key in keys:
	print key

The above should print the TransientObjects in the
TransientObjectContainerInstance....

Again ... I've never read the code ... but that's the way session
works...

On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:42, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
> keys method.  I presume you can use this.
> 
> - C
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > > code.
> > 
> > All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> > get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> > (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> > TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > -jj
> > 
> > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > Chris, 
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > -jj
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > -jj
> > 
> > -- 
> > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 13 04:45:47 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:45:47 -0800
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
In-Reply-To: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030312194039.01ead590@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 07:15 PM 3/12/2003, =?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?= wrote:
>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp?

If people who programmed in c# or java cared about using good tools, they'd 
have switched over to Python by now.  :-)

>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
>challenges also like relative slow speed

Python code won't execute as fast as assembler, but you'll finish your 
project a lot faster and have an easier time maintaining it.

>, short of
>programmer(compare with java cpp)

Python is today poised where Linux was about 6-7 years ago... most people 
have barely heard of it and only a few have found out first-hand how 
utterly it eclipses just about everything other choice in a wide range of 
applications.  Six years ago was a great time to be building your 
credentials as a Linux guru... now is a great time to be investing your 
time in Python.

>and short of elite
>programming environment (like MS visual studio).

There are overpriced IDEs for Python too.  :-)  Anyway, 90% of the problems 
solved by IDEs just aren't problems in Python.  Turn on syntax highlighting 
in Vim and you've got pretty much all the environment you could possibly 
need.

>Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
>CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
>java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?

A more important question is why you'd bother.  Why waste important 
development time achieving barely any more performance than you might have 
gotten out of a memory upgrade?  Besides, who want to recompile every time 
you upgrade a product?

Evaluating Python (or Zope) for its speed of execution is asking the wrong 
set of questions about this kind of software.  Performance matters *some*, 
but not nearly as much as development cost, maintenance cost, and time to 
market.  If you work in an environment where software gets validated or 
audited, you just can't beat Python for its clarity.  When push comes to 
shove, it's usually a lot easier to get more hardware than more hours of 
good programming talent.

If you want to improve Zope's performance, you can start by delegating 
more.  Proxy aggressively.  Serve all static content (especially images) 
out of Apache.  Do more load balancing.  Upgrade to ZEO.  Once you look at 
the big picture, there are very few situations where tweaking low-level 
code is the most efficient way to conceive of improving 
performance.    Just because Zope *can* serve as an all-in-one tool doesn't 
mean that's the best way to use it.

There are situations where writing the smallest, fastest thing possible is 
critical... most web apps just aren't in that domain.  If you're having 
performance problems in a web app, your time is almost always better spent 
tweaking the graphics than just about anything else.

My $.02,

Dylan



From praveenkkumar@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 05:00:18 2003
From: praveenkkumar@yahoo.com (K.Praveen Kumar)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:00:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] exUserFolder authentication problem -URGENT
Message-ID: <20030313050018.3815.qmail@web20001.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear list,
     I've been using exUser Folder authentication for the
web application developed using Zope. I'm using MySQL as
backend. I've created users. I've deselected the Access
contents information" and "View" in the Authenticated
module and given permission to "Authenticated", "Owner",
"Manager" roles only. Now If I visited to the Home page it
is redirecting to the Login Page and after successful
authentication Showing the Home page. Till now it is fine.
     If I click any of the link in the HOme page it is
redirecting to the Login screen again. what might be the
problem? Please help me out.

Thanks in advance
Praveen

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From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar 13 06:27:19 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:27:19 -0800
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
In-Reply-To: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E7024C7.5070509@agmweb.ca>

> short of
> programmer(compare with java cpp) 

Not really bear in mind it takes most programmers a couple of days (at
most) to be productive in Python and learn 90% of the language. It takes
a lot longer in other languages.

> and short of elite
> programming environment (like MS visual studio).

What vim, emacs? There are plenty of expensive IDE's that support
Python. Visual Python for example:
http://www.activestate.com/Products/Visual_Python

"Visual Python is the high-productivity Python plug-in for Visual Studio
.NET. Powerful, Python-specific features within the familiar Visual
Studio environment provide ease of use and accelerated development cycles"

> Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
> CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
> java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?

Because IMHO the best thing about Zope *is* Python. Take away Python and
it would be much less powerful. The thought of writing a product in C#
gives me the willies ;)

There is a PHP port of some bits out there if you are curious BTW :)
-- 
  Andy McKay



From Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 13 06:39:20 2003
From: Andreas Jung <lists@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:39:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG error
In-Reply-To: <3E6FCA85.6050706@skyesystems.com>
References: <3E6FCA85.6050706@skyesystems.com>
Message-ID: <572689654.1047541160@[192.168.0.3]>

Did you install DCWorkflow and the workflow as described in the =
installation
notes.?

-aj

--On Mittwoch, 12. M=E4rz 2003 19:02 -0500 Asad Quraishi=20
<aquraishi@skyesystems.com> wrote:

> I have the latest CMFCollectorNG version installed and working and can
> create a CMFCollectorNG doc without any problem although the user list is
> skewed.  When I try to create an issue however I get the following
> message:
>
> Errot Type
> WorkflowException
>
> Error Value
> No workflow provides the "request" action.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From maxm@mxm.dk  Thu Mar 13 07:21:22 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:21:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] DHTML Popup menu bar built from content
In-Reply-To: <236401c2e8c0$b7bd0c20$0701a8c0@provence>
References: <236401c2e8c0$b7bd0c20$0701a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <3E703172.8060905@mxm.dk>

Gilles Lenfant wrote:

>I have deeply tried to build a DHTML/Javascript menu bar based on the Zope
>content rather than having a fixed (hard coded in javascript) menu content.
>
>Have some of you experiences in building such stuffs ?
>

Yes. I used HierMenus, and it worked as advertised. But those kind of 
menu's are nearly allways the wrong type of navigation on a site. They 
only work on sites that are in fact applications. Like Intranets,

regards Max M



From edwardam@interlix.com  Thu Mar 13 07:56:10 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 01:56:10 -0600
Subject: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Proposed installation changes for review
In-Reply-To: <1047394107.1419.12.camel@james>
References: <1047332508.1424.336.camel@james>
 <1047352435.20485.30.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <1047354451.1423.91.camel@james>
 <1047360287.20063.57.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <1047394107.1419.12.camel@james>
Message-ID: <1047542170.2888.26.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 08:48, Chris McDonough wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 00:24, Edward Muller wrote:
> > Once zope is installed in /opt/zope-2.7.0 can it be moved without
> > damaging the install .... say to
> > /home/virtual/some.host.name/opt/zope-2.7.0 ?
> 
> Yes.  Its location is only meaningful to the instance files that need to
> find it.
> 
> > In our hosting setup some things get run in a chroot, some things
> > can't...
> > 
> > Currently zope get's installed in a chroot environment for anyone who
> > wants a zope install. It must be a complete install since when the user
> > restarts it he will be in his chroot environment.
> > 
> > So I'd ideally like to install zope in a way where all of the core of
> > zope is in one place ... say ... /opt/zope/<version #> (/opt/zope/2.7.0,
> > /opt/zope/2.7.1, etc...)
> > 
> > This I can hardlink/symlink into each chroot and make permissions 755
> > root/root.
> 
> I think this will work.  The only thing that might be a little weird is
> tracebacks generated by pyc files, as they may report the filenames of
> the Python modules where they were originally installed, instead of
> where they live now.  There is some contention about whether this
> happens under Python 2.2, but I know it's true for Python 2.1 and prior.

Well I can install zope in /opt/zope/2.7.1 (in the real root) and then
when I symlink/hardlink it into a virtual host I can link it into that
hosts /opt/zope/2.7.1 ... So that's not a biggie....

> 
> 
> > >From there I would like to be able to install an 'instance', which is
> > ... in my case meaning the data.fs, /Products directory, log files, etc,
> > etc. The stuff that make this users instance theirs. When the install is
> > happening, the script executing it would most likely be outside of the
> > chroot ... but I guess it could be configured to chroot as well..
> 
> You would need to chroot the run of makeinstance currently as it encodes
> paths to software within the instance files that start Zope.  So if you
> ran it outside the chroot it would work, but when the user logged in to
> the chroot, the paths to the software would be wrong.

That's not a problem ... at least IIRC. I can chroot when creating the
account in a shell script and execute custom setup scripts.

> 
> I think this might be made configurable with a switch to mkzopeinstance
> (--sw_location=/some/path), though.  I will add this to the tentative
> TODO, thanks.

all thought that would be nice.

> 
> > I already have start/stop scripts to go through the users that have a
> > zope install and chroot into that users 'host' and then start zope as
> > that 'hosts' administrative user.
> 
> These scripts will unfortunately need to change for Zope 2.7 unless we
> create some sort of backwards compatibilty layer for startup.

Yeah. Oh well. They aren't that complex. :-) I wouldn't worry about the
backward compatibility layer myself. I don't know if there is a great
value add to it, aside from keeping users from going 'WTF happened?' :-)

-- 
Edward Muller

Interlix - President

Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
Custom Programming - Network Service & Support

Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
  Fax: 417-862-0572

http://www.interlix.com



From edwardam@interlix.com  Thu Mar 13 08:00:59 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 02:00:59 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Spinning Zope on MP3 file import
In-Reply-To: <20030311045254.GC14491@slinkp.com>
References: <3E6CBDBD.15422.BE7EE1@localhost>
 <1047353603.20486.43.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030311045254.GC14491@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <1047542459.2888.29.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Your right and that was my knee jerk response when I first read the
email. But then I tried to do that math thing and well ... it didn't
work out ... 

Grrr ... My brain must have been fried ... 

Oh well......

On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 22:52, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 09:33:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > Unless your DSL is a synchronous DSL line (which is usually only used in
> > business applications and usually costs over $100.00 a month for the
> > slowest types), it would take aprox. 53:31 minutes:seconds to upload a
> > 4.9 MB file over a 128Kbps DSL line. This is assuming max throughput.
> 
> nah, more like 5 minutes...
> 
> Python 2.1.3 (#1, Jul 29 2002, 22:34:51) 
> [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)] on linux2
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> (4.9 * 1024 * 1024 * 8) / (128 * 1024)
> 313.60000000000002
> >>> _ / 60
> 5.2266666666666675
> 
> --
> 
> Paul Winkler
> http://www.slinkp.com
> Look! Up in the sky! It's RASPUTIN THE ABSURD!
> (random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
-- 
Edward Muller

Interlix - President

Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
Custom Programming - Network Service & Support

Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
  Fax: 417-862-0572

http://www.interlix.com



From zorth@gmx.at  Thu Mar 13 08:14:47 2003
From: zorth@gmx.at (zorth)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:14:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] WANTED: VIEWCVS-Product!
Message-ID: <20030313091447.4ccad6c0.zorth@gmx.at>

Hi!

Does someone know a zope-product which is similar to viewcvs (http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/)?

Thanks,
 zorth


From mirsoft@gmx.net  Thu Mar 13 09:09:32 2003
From: mirsoft@gmx.net (Lubos Culen)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:09:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Adding new product in Zope - creating file in subfolder problem
Message-ID: <oprlyud6l3uiqpjm@localhost>

Hello!

A simple problem: I'd to create new object, which will inherit the Zope 
'Folder' behavior and inside the folder will create some 'content' DTML 
document (or other document type), which I can edit. I followed these 
steps:

I have created new product (let's call it 'New product' and new ZClass 
inside it (let's call it 'New object'). For 'New object', I used base 
classes 'ZClasses: Object Manager' and 'OFS: Folder', so now it inherits 
all folder behavior right (it can contain files, etc.). Now it creates 
successfully my new object as a folder, but I want to copy the default 
"content" file inside it automatically. I created some DTML document called 
"template" inside "New product" folder in Zope products, and I want modify 
the "new_object_add" Python script, to do this:

- copy the "template" file to file "content" inside the "New object" folder
- run some editing onto this "content" file, so user can edit it.

I know I need to add something to "new_object_add" python script, but I 
don't know how, because using "context.manage_clone(container.template, 
instance.content) " (slightly modified step from the Chapter 14 in Zope 
book) doesn't work when creating object inside the Folder. Can anybody 
help?

Thanks a lot for any answer!

-- 
Regards, Mirsoft


From inkshop_world_ql254@excite.com  Wed Mar 12 21:31:37 2003
From: inkshop_world_ql254@excite.com (inkshop_world_ql254@excite.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 03:31:37 +0600
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From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl  Thu Mar 13 09:50:07 2003
From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:50:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is this forum available through a newgroup.
Message-ID: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CB1@exchange.spc.nl>

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From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Thu Mar 13 10:09:26 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 10:09:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Struggle to call a Zclass object from another web object
Message-ID: <1047550165.2073.7.camel@pc-dt>

Hello,


I guess I still don't get Zope completely.

I wrote a news manager Zclass that works well. Normally I get to the
object by calling the newster/index_html method (the default behaviour).

I want to integrate it into my website and in my root directory I have
the following objects:

index_html (dhtml object)
menu (dhtml object)
top (dhtml object)
news (Zclass object)

I want to do use my index_html to do pull all these objects together on
a single page like:

<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var top>
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>
<dtml-var menu>
</td>
<td><dtml-var news></td>
</tr>
</table>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>

But, clearly calling <dtml-vat news> just doesn't call the index_html
method on the news object and include the result.

I have tried things like <dtml-var expr="news.index_html()"> and that
get an error that

Traceback (innermost last):

      * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
      * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
      * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
      * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
      * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
      * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
        __traceback_info__: newster
      * Module <string>, line 2, in f
      * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
      * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
KeyError: standard_html_header

Somebody out there must have solved this problem? Any help is
appreciated.

Thanks,
Pieter



From mirsoft@systinet.com  Thu Mar 13 10:20:42 2003
From: mirsoft@systinet.com (Lubos Culen)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:20:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to convert string to object?
In-Reply-To: <1047017252.4949.61.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <oprlmbf4vbwyhawb@localhost> <1047017252.4949.61.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <oprlyxoskiwyhawb@localhost>

Edward & all,

thanks, this is definitely good idea how to create content based web-sites 
using ZPTs. I did my tests to create site structure, and it works fine, but 
I have few issues (maybe you will be able to help, if you are creating the 
sites this way?):

- Let's say the "content" file inside the folders is my own object, 
inheritted from e.g. DTML document (so it has some additional properties 
like time and date, but in the base it's HTML).
- Let's say when user clicks on some "EDIT" link (this link would be 
located outside content file of course, so it will be in ZPT's index_html), 
it should run some different method of the "content" object (which would 
for example open edit form - BUT inside the edit template). Do you have any 
ideas how to do this best way?

This is how I solved it under your example (but I don't feel this would be 
Zope's standard way and I have few issues, see below):

The EDIT and CONTENT located in ZPT index_html from your example I created 
like this:

 <html>
 <body>
 <div>
 or table or what not containing whatever you want to appear before the 
"content"

<a href="content/editForm" tal:attributes="href 
string:${here/REQUEST/URL1}?edit_me=1" target="_blank">Edit</a>

 </div>
   <span tal:condition="not:exists:here/REQUEST/form/edit_me" 
tal:content="structure here/content">
	<H2>Content area</H2>
   </span>
   <span tal:condition="exists:here/REQUEST/form/edit_me" 
tal:string="<iframe width=100% height=600 
src=\"content/editForm\"></iframe>">
   </span>
 <div>
 or table or what not containing whatever you want to appear after the 
"content"
 </div>
 </body>
 </html>


It works somehow, but these are my issues:

o) I had to use <IFRAME..> to create new "frame" editing instead of using 
'tal:content="structure here/content/editForm"' for edit, because this way 
did NOT get the additional properties from my custom object! (I don't know 
why)

o) I don't know how to do tal:contidion with the if-then-else system 
(that's why the first condition in <span 
tal:condition="not:exists:here/REQUEST/form/edit_me" and the second one is 
directly the opposite: <span 
tal:condition="exists:here/REQUEST/form/edit_me"

o) I'm looking for some way of changing my object to get the index_html 
template directly from inside the object, to not use the ?edit_me=1 
parameter, is there any way?


Does anyone have any ideas how to improve this? (or also any link to good 
documentation about ZPT connected with creating custom product classes 
would be appreciated; I have read ZopeBook, but was not able to find 
solutions for these here, maybe I've overseen something?) Thanks a lot in 
advance!

-Lubos.


On 07 Mar 2003 00:07:32 -0600, Edward Muller <edwardam@interlix.com> wrote:

> If your asking that question there is a possibility that you don't
> understand zope acquisition. Which is all right ... I think we all
> didn't get it at one point.
>
> I assume you want to use index_html as a template (or wrapper) for the
> content in some deeper folder?
>
> If so all you need to do (sorry this is in zpt ... don't use dtml much
> anymore)...
>
> in a zpt in your root folder  ..
>
> <html>
> <body>
> <div>
> or table or what not containing whatever you want to appear before the 
> "content"
> </div>
> <div tal:content="structure here/content"/>
> <div>
> or table or what not containing whatever you want to appear after the 
> "content"
> </div>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> Now just create folders ... and stick a file (dtml or zpt or python
> script or whatever) called 'content' wherever you want it to appear.
>
> So if I had a folder layout like the following:
>
> /articles/linux/2003/03/07/01
>
> I would put a zpt (or dtml document/method) called 'content' in the
> /articles/linux/2003/03/07/01 folder.
>
> And when I surfed to:
>
> http://server/articles/linux/2003/03/07/01
>
> I would get the content file 'wrapped' with the index_html somewhere up
> the folder 'path'.
>
> You can further customize things by using macros and slots and all the
> zpt goodies. Plus if you ever need to 'override' your index_html file
> deeper in you folder 'tree' just create a new one at the highest level
> you want to start using it.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 08:49, Lubos Culen wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Maybe this is more Python question, but because I'm using it with Zope, 
>> I'm posting it here.
>>
>> Let's suppose I have DTML Method called e.g. 'index_html' . It has one 
>> input parameter 'obj' which contains name of existing file object inside 
>> the directory tree. For example, the index_html file would be called as:
>>
>> www.mysite.com/path/index_html?obj=path.to.object.file
>>
>> Then in folder www.mysite.com/path/path/to/object/file in this example 
>> would be the DTML document I'd like to be displayed. I have to make 
>> proper code in the index_html file do do this.
>>
>> I tried do following in index_html:
>>
>> <dtml-var obj>
>>
>> But this echoes only plain text ('path.to.object.file') and not the 
>> object's content. I need to find some way how to convert this string to 
>> object, so Zope (or Python) can understand it as an object and display 
>> its content. Is there some way?
>>
>> Thanks a lot for any answer!



-- 
Regards, Mirsoft


From andy@bigorangelovebus.net  Thu Mar 13 10:43:19 2003
From: andy@bigorangelovebus.net (andy)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:43:19 +0000
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
References: <3E678812.6080006@lightlink.com>
Message-ID: <3E7060C7.10701@bigorangelovebus.net>

Thanks Wade & all,

It looks like the easiest way forward is to convert all the databases to 
mysql, front-end them for the users with Access, and use the mysqlda for 
the zope stuff. Only problem I'm having is getting the 
MySQL-python-0.9.0 setup.py file to work. It claims there's no such file 
as distutils.core, even though I can find that file myself.

Any ideas where I'm going wrong? I've got all the databases ready to 
roll, and just need the DA to work. According to my system, the core.py 
file is in /usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/, and the setup.py file in the 
MySQL-python-0.9.0 directory reads:

#!/usr/bin/env python

import os, sys
from distutils.core import setup
from distutils.extension import Extension

If I try to build or install this file, then I get an error saying:

ImportError: No module named distutils.core

Should I be changing some of the setup.py file? I can't see where the 
problem lies...

Thanks in advance for any help.

Andy

Wade Leftwich wrote:
> 
> 
> Your Access mdb file is on your Linux box? I don't think you can open it 
> there.
> You'll need to put it on a Windows box, then talk to it via ODBC over
> the network.
> 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg's new and excellent mxODBC Zope Adapter will do the job.
> It's a bargain at $95 per Zope server. I'm using it on Windows, but have
> tested his mxODBC module on Linux, and it works.
> 
> mxODBC enables Python to talk to the ODBC driver manager on your Linux 
> box. There are a couple
> of free ODBC driver mgrs available for Linux. Then for getting your 
> Linux box to talk
> to the Access box, there are one or two free projects as well as 
> commercial products
> (http://easysoft.com/).
> 
> If you don't need to keep the db in Access for other reasons, now would 
> be an excellent time
> to take a good look at PostgreSql.
> 
> You can probably get more answers on the Zope-db list.
> 
> Wade Leftwich
> Ithaca, NY
> 
> 




From alienoid@is.lg.ua  Thu Mar 13 10:59:26 2003
From: alienoid@is.lg.ua (Ruslan Spivak)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:59:26 +0200
Subject: [Zope] TAL + <select> + record modifier
Message-ID: <3E70648E.1060104@is.lg.ua>

Hello, zope users!


I have script getServiceMapping that return a list of dictionaries, like:
[{'type_name' : 'xxx',
   'title' : 'ccc',
   'groupname' : 'vvv'
  },
  {'type_name' : 'xxx1',
   'title' : 'ccc1',
   'groupname' : 'vvv'
  },
]

I want user to be able to use <select> staement, and i need to pass 
three variables to form handler, how to implement that?
Maybe 'record' modifier? But i can't make it working with select properly.

Here i can get only one varibale - type_name, and how to pass another 
2(title and groupname)?

<form name="client_addservice_form"
	    method="post"
	    action="folder_object"
	    tal:define="types here.getServiceMapping();
	                no_types python:len(types);"
	    tal:attributes="action here/absolute_url">
	<select name="type_name">
	  <option value="Select">Select</option>
	  <metal:block tal:repeat="ctype types">
	    <option value="Document"
		    tal:attributes="value ctype/type_name"
	            tal:content="ctype/tilte"
	            i18n:translate="">Document</option>
	  </metal:block>
	</select>
</form>

Thanks in advance,
Ruslan



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Thu Mar 13 12:42:36 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:42:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Is this forum available through a newgroup.
In-Reply-To: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CB1@exchange.spc.nl>
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CB1@exchange.spc.nl>
Message-ID: <b4pubb$hgp$1@main.gmane.org>

Daniël Hooymans wrote:
> Just wondering if this Mailing list also available trough a newsgroup.

gmane.comp.web.zope.general

-mj




From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 13 12:50:50 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:50:50 +0000
Subject: [Zope] prevent printing?
References: <5882A102.23E5C3C4.00923364@netscape.net>
Message-ID: <3E707EAA.5020104@nipltd.com>

baiewola@netscape.net wrote:
> Does Zope offer a way to prevent people from printing privileged pages that I want certain people to be able to view but not distribute?

We've implemented a solution for a customer using this technology:

http://www.sealedmedia.com/

...that does just this and a lot more.

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 13 12:52:12 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:52:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
References: <20030310153318.E18421@qcc.sk.ca> <20030310213931.GB13052@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <3E707EFC.8040307@nipltd.com>

Paul Winkler wrote:
> I think what you're looking for is
> __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1

I believe the above is now spelt:

security.setDefaultAcces('allow')

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 13 12:56:05 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:56:05 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D58F@desi2> <3E6E4FDF.9070803@icantbelieveididthat.com>
Message-ID: <3E707FE5.7080607@nipltd.com>

Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> The issue that I'm facing seems to be Zope's security model.  The ZDG's 
> security guide has even specified that object properties that are basic 
> Python types cannot have their permissions set via the usual 
> security.declarePublic() call (this includes 'id', 'meta_type', 
> 'title'). 

This is true.

Yoru options are:

1. setDefaultAccess('deny') and then provide setter and accessor methdos for the 
attributes in question.

2. I believe setDefaultAccess can be passed a list or function that determines 
whether an attribute is accessible. You'd have to do some research on this.

> I don't want to specify security.setDefaultAccess( 'allow' ) as this 
> would allow access to mutable types within my product from scripts and 
> defeats the purpose of setting a strict default security policy.

Be careful. OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem does this anyway, so you'll have to ensure 
you specifically set the policy in your product.

cheers,

Chris



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Thu Mar 13 13:03:15 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:03:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Is this forum available through a newgroup.
In-Reply-To: <b4pubb$hgp$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CB1@exchange.spc.nl> <b4pubb$hgp$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <b4pvi3$m07$1@main.gmane.org>

Maik Jablonski wrote:
> Daniël Hooymans wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering if this Mailing list also available trough a newsgroup.
> 
> 
> gmane.comp.web.zope.general

sorry, must be:

news://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.general

-mj




From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 13 13:15:31 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:15:31 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Use of GRUF with exUserFolder/PostgreSQL broken?
References: <20030311195106.GD13675@temp.joelburton.com>
Message-ID: <3E708473.9000707@nipltd.com>

Joel Burton wrote:
> Dear GRUF and exUserFolder developers, and others familiar with both

Haven't heard of GRUF before. What is it? Where can I find out more?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 13 13:19:46 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:19:46 +0000
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd
References: <785B2E8E-541C-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <3E708572.6090603@nipltd.com>

BZ wrote:
> I took a look through the mailing list and there is a lot of talk of 
> POSKeyError but I have not found one solution.
> 
> Anyone have something to go on? A fix? A place to start?

What version of Zope / ZEo are you using?

Might be best to ask on zodb-dev@zope.org...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 13 13:22:45 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:22:45 +0000
Subject: [Zope] WANTED: VIEWCVS-Product!
References: <20030313091447.4ccad6c0.zorth@gmx.at>
Message-ID: <3E708625.9050506@nipltd.com>

zorth wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Does someone know a zope-product which is similar to viewcvs (http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net/)?

Why not just use ViewCVS? ;-)

Chris



From aquraishi@skyesystems.com  Thu Mar 13 13:43:48 2003
From: aquraishi@skyesystems.com (Asad Quraishi)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:43:48 -0500
Subject: [Zope] CMFCollectorNG error
In-Reply-To: <572689654.1047541160@[192.168.0.3]>
References: <3E6FCA85.6050706@skyesystems.com> <572689654.1047541160@[192.168.0.3]>
Message-ID: <3E708B14.3000901@skyesystems.com>

I had installed DCWorkflow.  I am very sorry but I missed (again) the 
workflow mod for an issue as described in the install.txt.  Very sorry. 
 Once I took care of this it worked fine.

Thanks again.  Your documentation is good - I just haven't been paying 
attention.

- Asad

Andreas Jung wrote:

> Did you install DCWorkflow and the workflow as described in the 
> installation
> notes.?
>
> -aj
>
> --On Mittwoch, 12. März 2003 19:02 -0500 Asad Quraishi 
> <aquraishi@skyesystems.com> wrote:
>
>> I have the latest CMFCollectorNG version installed and working and can
>> create a CMFCollectorNG doc without any problem although the user 
>> list is
>> skewed.  When I try to create an issue however I get the following
>> message:
>>
>> Errot Type
>> WorkflowException
>>
>> Error Value
>> No workflow provides the "request" action.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>
>
>
>



From joel@joelburton.com  Thu Mar 13 14:36:16 2003
From: joel@joelburton.com (Joel Burton)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:36:16 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Use of GRUF with exUserFolder/PostgreSQL broken?
In-Reply-To: <3E708473.9000707@nipltd.com>
References: <20030311195106.GD13675@temp.joelburton.com> <3E708473.9000707@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <20030313143616.GC2089@temp.joelburton.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:15:31PM +0000, Chris Withers wrote:
> Joel Burton wrote:
> >Dear GRUF and exUserFolder developers, and others familiar with both
> 
> Haven't heard of GRUF before. What is it? Where can I find out more?

GRUF == GroupUserFolder, an implementation of groups for Zope. Unlike
NuxUserGroups, which patches various parts of Zope to get its
group-enabling magic working, GRUF uses a clever acl_folder replacement
to do its thing. It's a smart idea.

You can find details at
http://www.zope.org/Members/ingeniweb/GroupUserFolder

It advertises itself as compatible w/any user-folder replacement, since
it strives to look like a normal user folder. Unfortunately, the
perfect-compatibility isn't exactly on-target; hence, my message.

BTW, for others chasing the same problem: Andrew, the author of
exUserFolder, suggested that I install the CVS version of exUserFolder
and use this, as it provides the correct method on the user folder,
rather than just the user object. This is true, but the signature for
the method is different, and therefore still requires a small patch in
GRUF:

line 233 (body of authenticate()) of GRUFUser.py should be changed to:

  return self.aq_parent.Users.acl_users.authenticate( self.getId(),
                                                      password, 
						      request )

Fixing two problems: the acquisition path at the start gets us to the
exUserFolder folder, and it adds self.getId(), as exUF requires the
username to be passed to its authenticate method (unlike Zope
BasicUserFolder).

==

The CVS version of exUserFolder contains support for using NuxUserGroups
built-in, so that *might* be a better choice for others. I'd prefer to
see more documentation & stories about the success/performance of NUG,
given that it monkeypatches Zope internals. Plus, I'd hate to see that
my next UserFolder choice (LDAP? who knows?) wouldn't work with it.

==

(... and not to be the zillionth person to say this, but why, oh, why,
hasn't someone added groups concept to the zope core? ;) )

> cheers,
> 
> Chris

You too, Chris. Hope things are going well.


-- 

Joel BURTON  |  joel@joelburton.com  |  joelburton.com  |  aim: wjoelburton
Independent Knowledge Management Consultant


From bz@bwanazulia.com  Thu Mar 13 15:16:25 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:16:25 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd
In-Reply-To: <3E708572.6090603@nipltd.com>
References: <785B2E8E-541C-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
 <3E708572.6090603@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <49375.199.67.140.20.1047568585.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Zope Version  (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python
2.1.3, linux2)
Python Version  2.1.3 (#1, Apr 15 2002, 11:13:45) [GCC 2.7.2.3]

I got some answers from another thread, but nobody seems to really have a
cure. I tried using fsrecover.py but was having problems with that as
well.

BZ


> BZ wrote:
>> I took a look through the mailing list and there is a lot of talk of
>> POSKeyError but I have not found one solution.
>>
>> Anyone have something to go on? A fix? A place to start?
>
> What version of Zope / ZEo are you using?
>
> Might be best to ask on zodb-dev@zope.org...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 13 15:18:05 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 07:18:05 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Struggle to call a Zclass object from another web
 object
In-Reply-To: <1047550165.2073.7.camel@pc-dt>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313070252.01ea8048@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

The problem is you're having is not the problem you think you're having.  :-)

You're getting an error for standard_html_header.  Zope hasn't gotten to 
parse the expression you're fiddling with yet, so don't be surprised if 
what you're doing continues to produce errors.

Tracebacks are a very good thing to get in the habit of reading.  Typically 
the most important information is contained in the last couple steps, 
though in Zope, it's sometimes the case that the real error is five or six 
steps in.

In this case your error is right on the last line:
Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__ KeyError: 
standard_html_header

When objects get rendered, the __call__ method is typically used on 
them.  Everything to the left of that is unlikely to be useful to you until 
you get to the point where you're modifying source code.  Looking to the 
right of __call__, a KeyError usually pops up when an object name can not 
be resolved by Zope.  This error is telling you that Zope was unable to 
find the standard_html_header object.

So make sure there is a standard_html_header in your root folder that you 
have permissions to view it.   That should fix the problem... or at least, 
it will get you along to the next one. :-)

HTH,

Dylan


At 02:09 AM 3/13/2003, pieter claassen wrote:
>Hello,
>
>
>I guess I still don't get Zope completely.
>
>I wrote a news manager Zclass that works well. Normally I get to the
>object by calling the newster/index_html method (the default behaviour).
>
>I want to integrate it into my website and in my root directory I have
>the following objects:
>
>index_html (dhtml object)
>menu (dhtml object)
>top (dhtml object)
>news (Zclass object)
>
>I want to do use my index_html to do pull all these objects together on
>a single page like:
>
><dtml-var standard_html_header>
><dtml-var top>
><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
><tr>
><td>
><dtml-var menu>
></td>
><td><dtml-var news></td>
></tr>
></table>
><dtml-var standard_html_footer>
>
>But, clearly calling <dtml-vat news> just doesn't call the index_html
>method on the news object and include the result.
>
>I have tried things like <dtml-var expr="news.index_html()"> and that
>get an error that
>
>Traceback (innermost last):
>
>       * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>       * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>       * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>       * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
>         __traceback_info__: newster
>       * Module <string>, line 2, in f
>       * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
>       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>KeyError: standard_html_header
>
>Somebody out there must have solved this problem? Any help is
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Pieter
>
>
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From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Thu Mar 13 15:32:14 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:32:14 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
In-Reply-To: <3E707FE5.7080607@nipltd.com>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D58F@desi2> <3E6E4FDF.9070803@icantbelieveididthat.com> <3E707FE5.7080607@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E70A47E.2020305@icantbelieveididthat.com>

Chris Withers wrote:
> Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> 
>> The issue that I'm facing seems to be Zope's security model.  The 
>> ZDG's security guide has even specified that object properties that 
>> are basic Python types cannot have their permissions set via the usual 
>> security.declarePublic() call (this includes 'id', 'meta_type', 'title'). 
> 
> This is true.
> 
> Yoru options are:
> 
> 1. setDefaultAccess('deny') and then provide setter and accessor methdos 
> for the attributes in question.
> 
> 2. I believe setDefaultAccess can be passed a list or function that 
> determines whether an attribute is accessible. You'd have to do some 
> research on this.

Thanks Chris.  I'll look into this and get the results back to the list. 
  I hate dangling problems in mailing lists...

>> I don't want to specify security.setDefaultAccess( 'allow' ) as this 
>> would allow access to mutable types within my product from scripts and 
>> defeats the purpose of setting a strict default security policy.
> 
> 
> Be careful. OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem does this anyway, so you'll have 
> to ensure you specifically set the policy in your product.

Thanks for the warning!   ;-)

Michael



From lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 13 15:59:27 2003
From: lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com (LIM TIENAIK)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:59:27 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Unable create photo object using dtml and python
Message-ID: <BAY1-F124SpwBGpEI2r00037d48@hotmail.com>

	I would like to ask for a little help with the photo and photo folder 
product. I have installed it on zope, but adding photo dont seems to work 
with either dtml or python. The syntax i used to add a photo is <dtml-call 
"manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title, file)"> and the 
syntax i used in python is 
context.manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title,file). Those 2 
ways dont work and the error message from zope i receive is
Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: read
Traceback (innermost last):
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
150, in publish_module
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
114, in publish
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 158, in 
zpublisher_exception_hook
    (Object: skyheavens)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
98, in publish
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, 
in mapply
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 
39, in call_object
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, 
line 252, in __call__
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, 
line 283, in _bindAndExec
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
  File C:\Program 
Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\PythonScripts\PythonScript.py, line 
291, in _exec
    (Object: addPhotoScript)
    (Info: ({'script': <PythonScript instance at 01849B40>, 'context': 
<Folder instance at 01783810>, 'container': <Folder instance at 01783810>, 
'traverse_subpath': []}, ('picuture', 'a new picture', 
'C:\\WINDOWS\\Desktop\\shirt-design\\cover2.jpg'), {}, None))
  File Script (Python), line 1, in addPhotoScript
  File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\Photo\Photo.py, line 
654, in manage_addPhoto
AttributeError: (see above)


I hope that someone can help me with this. Thanks

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From stefan@epy.co.at  Thu Mar 13 16:19:29 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:19:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Unable create photo object using dtml and python
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F124SpwBGpEI2r00037d48@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F124SpwBGpEI2r00037d48@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <656718688.1047575969@[172.16.8.4]>

The file parameter you pass to manage_addPhoto must be a FileUpload object=20
not simply a filename.

Stefan


--On Donnerstag, 13. M=E4rz 2003 15:59 +0000 LIM TIENAIK=20
<lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> 	I would like to ask for a little help with the photo and photo folder
> product. I have installed it on zope, but adding photo dont seems to work
> with either dtml or python. The syntax i used to add a photo is
> <dtml-call "manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title,
> file)"> and the syntax i used in python is
> context.manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title,file).
> Those 2 ways dont work and the error message from zope i receive is Error
> Type: AttributeError
> Error Value: read
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line
> 150, in publish_module   File C:\Program
> Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 114, in publish
> File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 158,
> in zpublisher_exception_hook     (Object: skyheavens)
>   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line
> 98, in publish   File C:\Program
> Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, in mapply
> (Object: addPhotoScript)
>   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line
> 39, in call_object     (Object: addPhotoScript)
>   File C:\Program
> Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 252, in
> __call__     (Object: addPhotoScript)
>   File C:\Program
> Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 283, in
> _bindAndExec     (Object: addPhotoScript)
>   File C:\Program
> Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\PythonScripts\PythonScript.py, line
> 291, in _exec     (Object: addPhotoScript)
>     (Info: ({'script': <PythonScript instance at 01849B40>, 'context':
> <Folder instance at 01783810>, 'container': <Folder instance at
> 01783810>, 'traverse_subpath': []}, ('picuture', 'a new picture',
> 'C:\\WINDOWS\\Desktop\\shirt-design\\cover2.jpg'), {}, None))   File
> Script (Python), line 1, in addPhotoScript
>   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\Photo\Photo.py,
> line 654, in manage_addPhoto AttributeError: (see above)
>
>
> I hope that someone can help me with this. Thanks
>
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From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Thu Mar 13 16:24:27 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:24:27 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope product security question
In-Reply-To: <3E707FE5.7080607@nipltd.com>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D58F@desi2> <3E6E4FDF.9070803@icantbelieveididthat.com> <3E707FE5.7080607@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E70B0BB.1040508@icantbelieveididthat.com>

Chris Withers wrote:
> Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> 
>> The issue that I'm facing seems to be Zope's security model.  The 
>> ZDG's security guide has even specified that object properties that 
>> are basic Python types cannot have their permissions set via the usual 
>> security.declarePublic() call (this includes 'id', 'meta_type', 'title'). 
> 
> This is true.
> 
> Yoru options are:
> 
> 1. setDefaultAccess('deny') and then provide setter and accessor methdos 
> for the attributes in question.
> 
> 2. I believe setDefaultAccess can be passed a list or function that 
> determines whether an attribute is accessible. You'd have to do some 
> research on this.

Ok, to implement via option #2:

Set the following security declarations:

__roles__ = ()
security = ClassSecurityInfo()
security.setDefaultAccess( {'id':1,
                             'meta_type':1,
                             'title':1} )

This allows public access to the 'id', 'meta_type', and 'title', but 
disallows access to all other properties such as 'ctime'. 
Alternatively, you can also specify an inaccessible property with 
'ctime':0 in the security.setDefaultAccess() call.

Its a bit of a hoop jumping lesson, but it works.  Thanks Chris!

>> I don't want to specify security.setDefaultAccess( 'allow' ) as this 
>> would allow access to mutable types within my product from scripts and 
>> defeats the purpose of setting a strict default security policy.
> 
> 
> Be careful. OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem does this anyway, so you'll have 
> to ensure you specifically set the policy in your product.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 13 16:43:24 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:43:24 +0000
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
Message-ID: <F56PwFCOAeNPHsWocMM00007c82@hotmail.com>

Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong direction. Maybe the best way to 
leverage those skills and toolsets is in the area of interoperation instead 
of porting the whole shebang from trendy platform to trendy platform.

For example lets say on my team I have 1 python, 6 java, and 2 .net people. 
I could use the python guy to create a product that communicated with a 
larger product created by the 6 java developers that used some other 
component created by the .net people.

These languages don't have to be used to the exclusion of all else. I see 
this same thing happen in Java based web development. None of the java 
programmers want to know anything at all about HTML/CSS/Javascript/XML/XSLT. 
They want to focus on Java generating it all for them and it ending up 
perfectly on the other side - sans designer. They see no value whatsoever in 
learning or much less coding any script, html, or css. It's all about JSP, 
STRUTS, whathaveyou(which of course has to be learned, but that seems to be 
out of their realm of understanding).

I fear that Java programmers of today are going to be the COBOL programmers 
of tommorrow. They'll be 55 years old extolling the virtues of the virtual 
machine and JIT well after something else has become popular. They'll be 
locked into a decreasing job market because they refused to go outside of 
their box and learn anything new. They'll end up like Powerbuilder 
programmers ;).


>From: Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>
>To: Chen Fu <novalet@yahoo.com.cn>,zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:45:47 -0800
>
>At 07:15 PM 3/12/2003, =?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?= wrote:
>>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
>>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
>>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp?
>
>If people who programmed in c# or java cared about using good tools, they'd 
>have switched over to Python by now.  :-)
>
>>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
>>challenges also like relative slow speed
>
>Python code won't execute as fast as assembler, but you'll finish your 
>project a lot faster and have an easier time maintaining it.
>
>>, short of
>>programmer(compare with java cpp)
>
>Python is today poised where Linux was about 6-7 years ago... most people 
>have barely heard of it and only a few have found out first-hand how 
>utterly it eclipses just about everything other choice in a wide range of 
>applications.  Six years ago was a great time to be building your 
>credentials as a Linux guru... now is a great time to be investing your 
>time in Python.
>
>>and short of elite
>>programming environment (like MS visual studio).
>
>There are overpriced IDEs for Python too.  :-)  Anyway, 90% of the problems 
>solved by IDEs just aren't problems in Python.  Turn on syntax highlighting 
>in Vim and you've got pretty much all the environment you could possibly 
>need.
>
>>Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
>>CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
>>java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?
>
>A more important question is why you'd bother.  Why waste important 
>development time achieving barely any more performance than you might have 
>gotten out of a memory upgrade?  Besides, who want to recompile every time 
>you upgrade a product?
>
>Evaluating Python (or Zope) for its speed of execution is asking the wrong 
>set of questions about this kind of software.  Performance matters *some*, 
>but not nearly as much as development cost, maintenance cost, and time to 
>market.  If you work in an environment where software gets validated or 
>audited, you just can't beat Python for its clarity.  When push comes to 
>shove, it's usually a lot easier to get more hardware than more hours of 
>good programming talent.
>
>If you want to improve Zope's performance, you can start by delegating 
>more.  Proxy aggressively.  Serve all static content (especially images) 
>out of Apache.  Do more load balancing.  Upgrade to ZEO.  Once you look at 
>the big picture, there are very few situations where tweaking low-level 
>code is the most efficient way to conceive of improving performance.    
>Just because Zope *can* serve as an all-in-one tool doesn't mean that's the 
>best way to use it.
>
>There are situations where writing the smallest, fastest thing possible is 
>critical... most web apps just aren't in that domain.  If you're having 
>performance problems in a web app, your time is almost always better spent 
>tweaking the graphics than just about anything else.
>
>My $.02,
>
>Dylan
>
>
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From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Thu Mar 13 16:43:56 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:43:56 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Struggle to call a Zclass object from another web object
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313070252.01ea8048@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313070252.01ea8048@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <1047573832.2915.32.camel@pc-dt>

Ok, point taken, but...

The folder that I placed my product (remember we are talking ZClass
product here) in does have a standard_html_header and footer. So this
looks like some kind of bug and the object traversal is not working. All
I want to do is include the result of the __call__ in a html page so
that I can __call__ a number of objects (just by including them as
<dtml-var>) and return their results in one page.

This works fine for any native zope object (folder, file etc.) but for
my custom Zclass based product, it fails. 

Another pointer is that when I do this
<dtml-var newster>

I get the following rendition in my web page

<NewsManager at newster>

I have worked around the problem by calling the Object URL in an inline
frame, but that is a little lame.

Here is my ZClass's index_html

<dtml-in "objectValues('Message')">

<dtml-unless expire>
<table width="606" border="1" cellspacing="2">
<tr><td>
<h1><dtml-var title></h1>
</td></tr>
<tr><td>
<h2><dtml-var summary></h2>
</td></tr>
<tr><td>
<p><dtml-var body>
</td></tr>
</table>
</dtml-unless>

</dtml-in>

And this is the error that I get when I call it as follows:
<dtml-with newster>
<dtml-var expr="newster.index_html()">
</dtml-with>

Error traceback
Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
   - __traceback_info__: newster
  Module <string>, line 2, in f
  Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 628, in renderwob
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
   - __traceback_info__: objectValues
  Module <string>, line 2, in f
NameError: global name 'objectValues' is not defined

Thanks,
Pieter 

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 15:18, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> The problem is you're having is not the problem you think you're having.  :-)
> 
> You're getting an error for standard_html_header.  Zope hasn't gotten to 
> parse the expression you're fiddling with yet, so don't be surprised if 
> what you're doing continues to produce errors.
> 
> Tracebacks are a very good thing to get in the habit of reading.  Typically 
> the most important information is contained in the last couple steps, 
> though in Zope, it's sometimes the case that the real error is five or six 
> steps in.
> 
> In this case your error is right on the last line:
> Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__ KeyError: 
> standard_html_header
> 
> When objects get rendered, the __call__ method is typically used on 
> them.  Everything to the left of that is unlikely to be useful to you until 
> you get to the point where you're modifying source code.  Looking to the 
> right of __call__, a KeyError usually pops up when an object name can not 
> be resolved by Zope.  This error is telling you that Zope was unable to 
> find the standard_html_header object.
> 
> So make sure there is a standard_html_header in your root folder that you 
> have permissions to view it.   That should fix the problem... or at least, 
> it will get you along to the next one. :-)
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dylan
> 
> 
> At 02:09 AM 3/13/2003, pieter claassen wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >
> >I guess I still don't get Zope completely.
> >
> >I wrote a news manager Zclass that works well. Normally I get to the
> >object by calling the newster/index_html method (the default behaviour).
> >
> >I want to integrate it into my website and in my root directory I have
> >the following objects:
> >
> >index_html (dhtml object)
> >menu (dhtml object)
> >top (dhtml object)
> >news (Zclass object)
> >
> >I want to do use my index_html to do pull all these objects together on
> >a single page like:
> >
> ><dtml-var standard_html_header>
> ><dtml-var top>
> ><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
> ><tr>
> ><td>
> ><dtml-var menu>
> ></td>
> ><td><dtml-var news></td>
> ></tr>
> ></table>
> ><dtml-var standard_html_footer>
> >
> >But, clearly calling <dtml-vat news> just doesn't call the index_html
> >method on the news object and include the result.
> >
> >I have tried things like <dtml-var expr="news.index_html()"> and that
> >get an error that
> >
> >Traceback (innermost last):
> >
> >       * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
> >       * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
> >       * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
> >       * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
> >       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
> >       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
> >         __traceback_info__: newster
> >       * Module <string>, line 2, in f
> >       * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
> >       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
> >KeyError: standard_html_header
> >
> >Somebody out there must have solved this problem? Any help is
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Pieter
> >
> >
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From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Thu Mar 13 16:51:38 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:51:38 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Product (ZClass) distribution rights management
Message-ID: <1047574297.2914.38.camel@pc-dt>

Apologies for the repeat post but I have not had an answer on this one.

1. Is there any way to override the permissions built into ZCLass
product distribution framework so that I can create recover the
development code that I thought I could modify, but it turned out that I
don't have the rights to repackage the code?

2. Where does the modifications to the Zclass based product gets stored
(it is certainly not stored in the /lib/python/Products/productx as I
have zipped that up and moved it over to my new machines and it was the
original version without any of my modifications)

This problem might turn out to be a serious issue and very damaging for
Zclass based products.

Thanks,
Pieter



From goedicke@goedsole.com  Thu Mar 13 16:56:49 2003
From: goedicke@goedsole.com (William Goedicke)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 11:56:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
In-Reply-To: <F56PwFCOAeNPHsWocMM00007c82@hotmail.com>
References: <F56PwFCOAeNPHsWocMM00007c82@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <m3hea7fbn2.fsf@mail.goedsole.com>

Dear Y'all - 

> >At 07:15 PM 3/12/2003, =?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?= wrote:

> >>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
> >>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
> >>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp?
> >
> >>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
> >>challenges also like relative slow speed

Of course, you must be suggesting Python is slow relative to c#, cpp.
Python like a decent abacus is blindingly fast compared to java.

     Yours -      Billy

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 13 17:02:01 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:02:01 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Struggle to call a Zclass object from another web
 object
In-Reply-To: <1047573832.2915.32.camel@pc-dt>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313070252.01ea8048@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030313070252.01ea8048@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313085245.02b020d0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 08:43 AM 3/13/2003, pieter claassen wrote:
>This works fine for any native zope object (folder, file etc.) but for
>my custom Zclass based product, it fails.
>
>Another pointer is that when I do this
><dtml-var newster>
>
>I get the following rendition in my web page
>
><NewsManager at newster>

Ah... right.  Object methods work a little bit differently than method 
objects.  Problem here is that you're getting a reference to the method 
instead of calling it.  To call a method:

<dtml-var "method_name()">

The normal rules of acquisition apply.  Like ZMI objects, methods are 
resolved by the first object that can do the trick.  In many cases, this 
will mean including a reference to the specific instance you want to call 
this on in the URL.


>I have worked around the problem by calling the Object URL in an inline
>frame, but that is a little lame.

Yep.  When a method is referenced by URL, it is called implicitly.  When 
you reference it from DTML, you'll need to call it explicitly.

Getting warmer?

Dylan



From dave-zope@dnh.sk.ca  Thu Mar 13 17:23:43 2003
From: dave-zope@dnh.sk.ca (Dave Hall)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:23:43 -0600
Subject: [Zope] monitoring Zope with Daemontools (svscan)
In-Reply-To: <3E6FB558.2000200@mccalldesign.com>; from davis@mccalldesign.com on Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:52PM -0800
References: <3E6FB558.2000200@mccalldesign.com>
Message-ID: <20030313112343.A2233@dnh.sk.ca>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:52PM -0800, Davis Marques wrote:
> I'm having some trouble getting my Zope 2.5.1 to work with Daemontools. 
>  I can get EITHER zope OR the logging service started, but never both 
> for some reason.  When Zope is running, it doesn't respond to any 
> requests.  Here's my ps output:
> 
>  1092 ?        S      0:00 svscan /service
>  1093 ?        S      0:00  \_ supervise zope
>  1246 ?        Z      0:00  |   \_ [python <defunct>]
>  1094 ?        S      0:00  \_ supervise log
>  1098 ?        S      0:00      \_ /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
> /var/log/zopedebug
> 
> I don't know why, but in this case, Zope died and the logging service 
> started.

Take a look in /var/log/zopedebug for clues as to why Zope is not
starting.  Also, you could try running the run script manually to see if
Zope complains.

The only fundamental difference between this and what I'm running is I'm
using INSTANCE_HOME to have a few Zope servers running with a common Zope
install.  You might try hard coding the path to z2.py and/or check to see
that INST_HOME is getting set to the correct path.


-- 

Dave

===============================================================
| <- You must be smarter than this stick to ride
     the Internet		-Mike Handler
===============================================================


From nhavar@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 13 17:15:07 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:15:07 +0000
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <F113HLNu4HbuDl5zwmM0004cca3@hotmail.com>

having a problem getting the absolute_url or portal_url within a CMF site.

We have a framed site that puts a ZOPE CMF site in one frame when needed. 
When the frame is first loaded all the links point to "mysite:8200" instead 
of where the ZOPE instance is being run "mysite:8300". If I right click on 
the zope frame and reload I get the correct links but loading it from 
another frame breaks the link reference. Is there another way to get the 
url?





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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar 13 17:18:02 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
In-Reply-To: <F56PwFCOAeNPHsWocMM00007c82@hotmail.com>
References: <F56PwFCOAeNPHsWocMM00007c82@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20030313171801.GD19405@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 04:43:24PM +0000, Michael Havard wrote:
> Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong direction. Maybe the best way to 
> leverage those skills and toolsets is in the area of interoperation instead 
> of porting the whole shebang from trendy platform to trendy platform.
> 
> For example lets say on my team I have 1 python, 6 java, and 2 .net people. 
> I could use the python guy to create a product that communicated with a 
> larger product created by the 6 java developers that used some other 
> component created by the .net people.

how did you know? :)  Actually in my group we've got 1 
python/zope/cmf guy (me), 1 lotus/domino guy, and 6 java developers.
There is no .NET here. Of course we sometimes argue over which system 
should handle which task, and of course i think we should be doing a lot 
more python / zope, but in general we do pretty well with this hybrid
setup.  Zope's role is mostly handling presentation 
and content management, and most of the apps are database-driven jsp.

BTW, we don't use any xmlrpc or web services, it's all just server A 
getting an http stream from server B and doing something with it.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's PRESIDENT MONKEY!
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From jan.maska@systinet.com  Thu Mar 13 17:24:28 2003
From: jan.maska@systinet.com (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Jan_Ma=B9ka?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:24:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Workflow
Message-ID: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBMEPACBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>

Hi all,

I have a very simple question:

I need a workflow in ZOPE.
Doesn't really matter if it's some module, product or a set of
Python/DTML/whatever objects to import and build on them.
What I need is a straightforward thing to start with and to build on.

Can you recommend something?

Thanks a lot..
-Mac

===============================
 Jan Maska, web developer
 Systinet, Prague(CZ)
 jan.maska@systinet.com
 tel.:(+420)608453492

 visit http://www.systinet.com
===============================




From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Thu Mar 13 17:37:26 2003
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:37:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>

Hi,

After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including PHITE... I 
finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that 
provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.

For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? 
What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management Server?

Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the life 
of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The Zope Book" 
and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management".

For those interested, here are others I found @ Amazon:
- The Book of Zope by Beehive
- Zope Developer's Handbook by John D. Rowell
- Zope Bible by Michael Bernstein (Author), Scott Robertson (Author)
- Zope Power Tools: by Michael R Bernstein
- Zope Web Application Construction Kit by Martina Brockmann (Editor), et al
- Professional Zope: Pro Zope by Staff Wrox Press Inc. Availability: Out of 
Print--Limited Availability
- Zope by Pierre Julien Grizel Availability: This item has not yet been 
released.
- Programming Zope by Gold Availability: Out of Print--Limited Availability

Thx
Fred.



From lennart@regebro.nu  Thu Mar 13 17:55:26 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:55:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <3E70C60E.90304@regebro.nu>

Frederic Faure wrote:
> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? 

I don't know of all products, so I couldn't say, but it sure is darn 
unusal. :)

> What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management 
> Server?

MS CMS uses MS SQL Server for storage. (Surprise!)



From andrew@logicalprogression.net  Thu Mar 13 18:21:30 2003
From: andrew@logicalprogression.net (Andrew Veitch)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:21:30 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Workflow
In-Reply-To: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBMEPACBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
Message-ID: <BA967CAA.A17D%andrew@logicalprogression.net>

> I need a workflow in ZOPE.
> Doesn't really matter if it's some module, product or a set of
> Python/DTML/whatever objects to import and build on them.
> What I need is a straightforward thing to start with and to build on.

Workflow is used with the CMF. DCWorkflow is the main product that people
seem to use but there are others.

Check out http://cmf.zope.org/ and the mail list zope-cmf@zope.org - the
archives are well worth looking through.

A



From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar 13 18:26:21 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:26:21 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Product (ZClass) distribution rights management
In-Reply-To: <1047574297.2914.38.camel@pc-dt>
References: <1047574297.2914.38.camel@pc-dt>
Message-ID: <3E70CD4D.4090202@agmweb.ca>

pieter claassen wrote:
> Apologies for the repeat post but I have not had an answer on this one.
> 
> 1. Is there any way to override the permissions built into ZCLass
> product distribution framework so that I can create recover the
> development code that I thought I could modify, but it turned out that I
> don't have the rights to repackage the code?

Probably because I dont understand the question.

> 2. Where does the modifications to the Zclass based product gets stored
> (it is certainly not stored in the /lib/python/Products/productx as I
> have zipped that up and moved it over to my new machines and it was the
> original version without any of my modifications)

All the product information for your ZClass product is stored inside 
your ZODB.

> This problem might turn out to be a serious issue and very damaging for
> Zclass based products.

Thats why most people dont use them for anything other than tinkering 
and use Python Products.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Thu Mar 13 18:39:26 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 10:39:26 -0800
Subject: [Zope] dump a wiki?
Message-ID: <86r89b5cwx.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Hello,

I have a wiki with some content I would like to dump to an external
file, txt, pdf or html would be fine.  How do I do this?

This is what I have tried so far:

        - wget -r URL

          This didn't work.  Wget gets the front page, but not the
          rest.  -m didn't help either.  I can see the "href=..."
          links to the other pages in the wiki, but wget ignores
          them. :(

        - wiki.org FAQ

          http://zwiki.org/UsageFAQ#I've%20organized%20my%20pages%20in%20a%20tree%20structure.%20What%20is%20the%20easiest%20way%20to%20print%20them%20all%20?

          This FAQ answer refers to a PrintMethod for wikis but I
          can't find this product.  The link points off to "Create
          this Page".

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
-- 
Ricardo Anguiano
http://www.codesourcery.com


From nicoe@altern.org  Thu Mar 13 18:47:00 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:47:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
Message-ID: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

Hello everyone,

In order to diplay the person who wrote a new item I use his code :

<em tal:content=3D"here/owner_info/id">Owner</em>

Unfortunatly this don't work ! I keep getting authentication problems (I
test as Anonymous User).

Does anybody has an idea why this is happening ?

--=20
(=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 13 18:51:56 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:51:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
References: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047585116@[192.168.0.2]>

try here/getOwner

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 13. M=E4rz 2003 19:47 Uhr +0100 Nicolas =C9vrard=20
<nicoe@altern.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> In order to diplay the person who wrote a new item I use his code :
>
> <em tal:content=3D"here/owner_info/id">Owner</em>
>
> Unfortunatly this don't work ! I keep getting authentication problems (I
> test as Anonymous User).
>
> Does anybody has an idea why this is happening ?
>
> --
> (=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
> / )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
> ^^
>
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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 13 17:44:24 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:44:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Workflow
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047581064@localhost>

You might consider switching to CMF and use DCWorkflow.

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 13. M=E4rz 2003 18:24 Uhr +0100 Jan Ma=3Fka=20
<jan.maska@systinet.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a very simple question:
>
> I need a workflow in ZOPE.
> Doesn't really matter if it's some module, product or a set of
> Python/DTML/whatever objects to import and build on them.
> What I need is a straightforward thing to start with and to build on.
>
> Can you recommend something?
>
> Thanks a lot..
> -Mac
>
> =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>  Jan Maska, web developer
>  Systinet, Prague(CZ)
>  jan.maska@systinet.com
>  tel.:(+420)608453492
>
>  visit http://www.systinet.com
> =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
>
>
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From chumphries@devis.com  Thu Mar 13 19:15:05 2003
From: chumphries@devis.com (Chris Humphries)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:15:05 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog and phrase searching
Message-ID: <3E70D8B9.8070400@devis.com>

hello all,
	question is about how exactly zcatalog does phrase
  searching. from going thru the source, i am having a heck
  of a time trying to find where it actually does something
  with the search string (so i can tell how it uses it to
  search).
	the problem is that there is a requirement to be able
  to search for "string exactly like this", and we are using
  zcatalog to search over our zope content objects. now from
  how it is now, i am uncertian that if 1) zcatalog can do that
  and 2) if it can, how?. it seems to search for "string" AND
  "exactly" AND "like" AND "this" when that is not the desired
  behavior. we want it to be 4 words treated as one entity to
  search on, and not 4 seperate entities.
	if i have communicated well enough across, can you tell
  me if this is possible with zcatalog, and if so how do it do
  it?
	

thanks,
chris




From chumphries@devis.com  Thu Mar 13 19:18:25 2003
From: chumphries@devis.com (Chris Humphries)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:18:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog and phrase searching
Message-ID: <3E70D981.4030602@devis.com>

hello all,
	question is about how exactly zcatalog does phrase
  searching. from going thru the source, i am having a heck
  of a time trying to find where it actually does something
  with the search string (so i can tell how it uses it to
  search).
	the problem is that there is a requirement to be able
  to search for "string exactly like this", and we are using
  zcatalog to search over our zope content objects. now from
  how it is now, i am uncertian that if 1) zcatalog can do that
  and 2) if it can, how?. it seems to search for "string" AND
  "exactly" AND "like" AND "this" when that is not the desired
  behavior. we want it to be 4 words treated as one entity to
  search on, and not 4 seperate entities.
	if i have communicated well enough across, can you tell
  me if this is possible with zcatalog, and if so how do i do
  it?
	

thanks,
chris




From michael@nichestaffing.com  Thu Mar 13 19:06:47 2003
From: michael@nichestaffing.com (Michael Lewis)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 12:06:47 -0700
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog and phrase searching
In-Reply-To: <3E70D8B9.8070400@devis.com>
References: <3E70D8B9.8070400@devis.com>
Message-ID: <1047582407.2316.48.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi Chris,

Zope 2.6.x does have exact phrase searching through the ZCTextIndex. 
Versions prior to this do not have this capability, except for an add-on
product TextIndexNG which works on Zope 2.5.1 I believe.

Michael

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 12:15, Chris Humphries wrote:
> hello all,
> 	question is about how exactly zcatalog does phrase
>   searching. from going thru the source, i am having a heck
>   of a time trying to find where it actually does something
>   with the search string (so i can tell how it uses it to
>   search).
> 	the problem is that there is a requirement to be able
>   to search for "string exactly like this", and we are using
>   zcatalog to search over our zope content objects. now from
>   how it is now, i am uncertian that if 1) zcatalog can do that
>   and 2) if it can, how?. it seems to search for "string" AND
>   "exactly" AND "like" AND "this" when that is not the desired
>   behavior. we want it to be 4 words treated as one entity to
>   search on, and not 4 seperate entities.
> 	if i have communicated well enough across, can you tell
>   me if this is possible with zcatalog, and if so how do it do
>   it?
> 	
> 
> thanks,
> chris
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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NicheStaffing.com



From chrism@zope.com  Thu Mar 13 19:23:19 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 14:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog and phrase searching
In-Reply-To: <3E70D981.4030602@devis.com>
References: <3E70D981.4030602@devis.com>
Message-ID: <1047583399.1423.43.camel@james>

If you use ZCTextIndex, I believe that surrounding a phrase in quotes
will do the kind of phrase searching you're looking for.  I don't think
plain old TextIndex will, though.

- C


On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 14:18, Chris Humphries wrote:
> hello all,
> 	question is about how exactly zcatalog does phrase
>   searching. from going thru the source, i am having a heck
>   of a time trying to find where it actually does something
>   with the search string (so i can tell how it uses it to
>   search).
> 	the problem is that there is a requirement to be able
>   to search for "string exactly like this", and we are using
>   zcatalog to search over our zope content objects. now from
>   how it is now, i am uncertian that if 1) zcatalog can do that
>   and 2) if it can, how?. it seems to search for "string" AND
>   "exactly" AND "like" AND "this" when that is not the desired
>   behavior. we want it to be 4 words treated as one entity to
>   search on, and not 4 seperate entities.
> 	if i have communicated well enough across, can you tell
>   me if this is possible with zcatalog, and if so how do i do
>   it?
> 	
> 
> thanks,
> chris
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar 13 19:23:58 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:23:58 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope process goes to sleep
Message-ID: <3E70DACE.5020900@neurobs.com>

Hi,

We have Zope 2.6.1 (upgraded) running behind Apache 2.0 on a Redhat 8 
dual processor machine with Py 2.1.3. Its been live for quite a few days.

Now every night at around 3-5 AM the server sort of stops responding. A 
ps -ax still shows the process running, and a ping to port 8080 on the 
machine returns a valid response, just that the server doesnt respond 
and Apache returns a proxy error.

Also before that happens the apache logs show that there are not hits 
for quite some time.  
Once I restart the zope process everything sworks fine then.

Any ideas as to what might be causing that? Has anybody seen that before?/

My start script:

#! /bin/sh

umask 077

export INSTANCE_HOME="/var/local/zope"
export ZSYSLOG="/dev/log"
export EVENT_LOG_FILE="/var/log/zope/Zope.log"

cd $INSTANCE_HOME
/usr/bin/env bin/python $INSTANCE_HOME/z2.py \
        -D \
        -Z1 \
        -C \
        -t 20 \
        -z /var/local/zope \
        -u zope \
        -X \
        -a 192.168.10.172 \
        -P 8000 \
        -m - \
        -p - \
        -f - \
        -M /var/log/zope/detailed.txt \
        -l /var/log/zope/zserver.txt


TIA
AM

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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 13 19:19:19 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:19:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog and phrase searching
In-Reply-To: <3E70D8B9.8070400@devis.com>
References: <3E70D8B9.8070400@devis.com>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047586759@[192.168.0.2]>

Phrasesearch depends on the type of text index used. The standard
Zope TextIndex does not support phrase search (at least
no very reliable). Better choices are TextIndexNG or ZCTextIndex.

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 13. M=E4rz 2003 14:15 Uhr -0500 Chris Humphries=20
<chumphries@devis.com> wrote:

> hello all,
> 	question is about how exactly zcatalog does phrase
>   searching. from going thru the source, i am having a heck
>   of a time trying to find where it actually does something
>   with the search string (so i can tell how it uses it to
>   search).
> 	the problem is that there is a requirement to be able
>   to search for "string exactly like this", and we are using
>   zcatalog to search over our zope content objects. now from
>   how it is now, i am uncertian that if 1) zcatalog can do that
>   and 2) if it can, how?. it seems to search for "string" AND
>   "exactly" AND "like" AND "this" when that is not the desired
>   behavior. we want it to be 4 words treated as one entity to
>   search on, and not 4 seperate entities.
> 	if i have communicated well enough across, can you tell
>   me if this is possible with zcatalog, and if so how do it do
>   it?
> 	
>
> thanks,
> chris
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From chumphries@devis.com  Thu Mar 13 19:44:14 2003
From: chumphries@devis.com (Chris Humphries)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:44:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog and phrase searching
In-Reply-To: <1047583399.1423.43.camel@james>
References: <3E70D981.4030602@devis.com> <1047583399.1423.43.camel@james>
Message-ID: <3E70DF8E.50704@devis.com>

thanks chrism and aj.


Chris McDonough wrote:
> If you use ZCTextIndex, I believe that surrounding a phrase in quotes
> will do the kind of phrase searching you're looking for.  I don't think
> plain old TextIndex will, though.
> 
> - C
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 14:18, Chris Humphries wrote:
> 
>>hello all,
>>	question is about how exactly zcatalog does phrase
>>  searching. from going thru the source, i am having a heck
>>  of a time trying to find where it actually does something
>>  with the search string (so i can tell how it uses it to
>>  search).
>>	the problem is that there is a requirement to be able
>>  to search for "string exactly like this", and we are using
>>  zcatalog to search over our zope content objects. now from
>>  how it is now, i am uncertian that if 1) zcatalog can do that
>>  and 2) if it can, how?. it seems to search for "string" AND
>>  "exactly" AND "like" AND "this" when that is not the desired
>>  behavior. we want it to be 4 words treated as one entity to
>>  search on, and not 4 seperate entities.
>>	if i have communicated well enough across, can you tell
>>  me if this is possible with zcatalog, and if so how do i do
>>  it?
>>	
>>
>>thanks,
>>chris
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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From nicoe@altern.org  Thu Mar 13 20:02:10 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:02:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1047585116@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx> <2147483647.1047585116@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <20030313200210.GB28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

* Andreas Jung  [19:51 13/03/03 CET]:=20

>try here/getOwner

Yep, already tried that ... but it didn't worked :(

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/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


From mlong@datalong.com  Thu Mar 13 20:08:07 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:08:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
Message-ID: <E18tYzn-0005yf-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

I am currently reading the Zope Bible and finding it very useful. The
Python Developers Handbook is also a good reference to have on hand.

Cheers,
Mike

> Hi,
> 
> After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including
PHITE... I 
> finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that 
> provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.
> 
> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? 
> What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management
Server?
> 
> Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the life 
> of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The Zope
Book" 
> and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management".
> 
> For those interested, here are others I found @ Amazon:
> - The Book of Zope by Beehive
> - Zope Developer's Handbook by John D. Rowell
> - Zope Bible by Michael Bernstein (Author), Scott Robertson (Author)
> - Zope Power Tools: by Michael R Bernstein
> - Zope Web Application Construction Kit by Martina Brockmann (Editor),
et al
> - Professional Zope: Pro Zope by Staff Wrox Press Inc. Availability:
Out of 
> Print--Limited Availability
> - Zope by Pierre Julien Grizel Availability: This item has not yet been 
> released.
> - Programming Zope by Gold Availability: Out of Print--Limited
Availability
> 
> Thx
> Fred.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
> 




From mlong@datalong.com  Thu Mar 13 20:08:20 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:08:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
Message-ID: <E18tZ00-0005za-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

I am currently reading the Zope Bible and finding it very useful. The
Python Developers Handbook is also a good reference to have on hand.

Cheers,
Mike

> Hi,
> 
> After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including
PHITE... I 
> finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that 
> provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.
> 
> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? 
> What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management
Server?
> 
> Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the life 
> of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The Zope
Book" 
> and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management".
> 
> For those interested, here are others I found @ Amazon:
> - The Book of Zope by Beehive
> - Zope Developer's Handbook by John D. Rowell
> - Zope Bible by Michael Bernstein (Author), Scott Robertson (Author)
> - Zope Power Tools: by Michael R Bernstein
> - Zope Web Application Construction Kit by Martina Brockmann (Editor),
et al
> - Professional Zope: Pro Zope by Staff Wrox Press Inc. Availability:
Out of 
> Print--Limited Availability
> - Zope by Pierre Julien Grizel Availability: This item has not yet been 
> released.
> - Programming Zope by Gold Availability: Out of Print--Limited
Availability
> 
> Thx
> Fred.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
> 




From jkpescador@yahoo.com  Thu Mar 13 20:09:04 2003
From: jkpescador@yahoo.com (John Pescador)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:09:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] MailBoxer question
Message-ID: <20030313200904.39856.qmail@web14914.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone use
MailBoxer(www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/MailBoxer) 
for their mailing list?
Are there any gotchas?
I am going to try and install this and compare it will
Mailman 
(www.list.org)

Mahalo
john


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From nhavar@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 13 20:17:34 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 20:17:34 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Wrong url on absolute_url or portal_url
Message-ID: <F1416xEfhzL1f6Ykwn9000358da@hotmail.com>

having a problem getting the absolute_url or portal_url within a CMF
site.

We have a framed site that puts a ZOPE CMF site in one frame when
needed. When the frame is first loaded all the links point to
"mysite:8200" instead of where the ZOPE instance is being run
"mysite:8300". If I right click on the zope frame and reload I get
the correct links but loading it from another frame breaks the link
reference. Is there another way to get the url?




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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar 13 17:01:19 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:01:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] monitoring Zope with Daemontools (svscan)
In-Reply-To: <3E6FB558.2000200@mccalldesign.com>
References: <3E6FB558.2000200@mccalldesign.com>
Message-ID: <20030313170119.GC19405@slinkp.com>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:52PM -0800, Davis Marques wrote:
> I'm having some trouble getting my Zope 2.5.1 to work with Daemontools. 

It's not very nice I'm afraid :(

> exec setuidgid zope /usr/local/zope/bin/python \
>   $INST_HOME/z2.py \
>   -m -d -w 80 -f 21 -F '' -Z ''

Have you tried running this command from the console?
Get this command working first before you start worrying
about daemontools. I notice at least two things wrong with it:

1) z2.py -m expects the next argument to be a port number.
To disable the monitor port, you want "-m -"

2) z2.py detaches from the terminal unless you give the -D (debug)
option. Yes, this sucks. You can either roll with it and give -D,
or do what I did and write a script that launches zope,
receives the signals that daemontools sends, and kills 
or restarts zope as necessary.  This sort-of works for me, it's not
very reliable and i'm not sure why.

BTW, Zope 2.7 is expected to finally start isolating the many
things that the -D option toggles; you'll be able to run
zope in the foreground or background as you please regardless of 
the other "debug" options.

-- 

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http://www.slinkp.com
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(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From plasser@hexagon.at  Thu Mar 13 20:23:54 2003
From: plasser@hexagon.at (Juergen R. Plasser)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 21:23:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Workflow
In-Reply-To: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBMEPACBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
References: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBMEPACBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
Message-ID: <42900978.1047590634@[192.168.123.98]>

Look for Openflow: http://www.openflow.it

Juergen

--On 13.03.2003 18:24 +0100 Jan Ma=3Fka wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a very simple question:
>
> I need a workflow in ZOPE.
> Doesn't really matter if it's some module, product or a set of
> Python/DTML/whatever objects to import and build on them.
> What I need is a straightforward thing to start with and to build on.
>
> Can you recommend something?
>
> Thanks a lot..
> -Mac
>
> =
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>  Jan Maska, web developer
>  Systinet, Prague(CZ)
>  jan.maska@systinet.com
>  tel.:(+420)608453492
>
>  visit http://www.systinet.com
> =
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com  Thu Mar 13 20:38:09 2003
From: Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com (Michael R. Schwab)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:38:09 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <E18tZ00-0005za-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18tZ00-0005za-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <3E70EC31.4040206@icantbelieveididthat.com>

Michael Long wrote:
> I am currently reading the Zope Bible and finding it very useful. The
> Python Developers Handbook is also a good reference to have on hand.

Further, I checked out the CD that comes with the Zope Bible and found 
that there is a PDF copy of the Python 2.1 Bible under the eBooks 
directory.  There is also a PDF version of the Zope Bible there as well.

Both PDFs require at least Adobe Acrobat 5.

Michael

> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including
> 
> PHITE... I 
> 
>>finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool that 
>>provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.
>>
>>For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? 
>>What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management
> 
> Server?
> 
>>Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the life 
>>of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The Zope
> 
> Book" 
> 
>>and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management".
>>
>>For those interested, here are others I found @ Amazon:
>>- The Book of Zope by Beehive
>>- Zope Developer's Handbook by John D. Rowell
>>- Zope Bible by Michael Bernstein (Author), Scott Robertson (Author)
>>- Zope Power Tools: by Michael R Bernstein
>>- Zope Web Application Construction Kit by Martina Brockmann (Editor),
> 
> et al
> 
>>- Professional Zope: Pro Zope by Staff Wrox Press Inc. Availability:
> 
> Out of 
> 
>>Print--Limited Availability
>>- Zope by Pierre Julien Grizel Availability: This item has not yet been 
>>released.
>>- Programming Zope by Gold Availability: Out of Print--Limited
> 
> Availability
> 
>>Thx
>>Fred.
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>(Related lists - 
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
> 



From contact_tonico@yahoo.de  Thu Mar 13 21:01:10 2003
From: contact_tonico@yahoo.de (Tonico Strasser)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:01:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <b4qre9$av9$1@main.gmane.org>

Frederic Faure wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including PHITE... 
> I finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using a tool 
> that provides an object database at its core, and the acquisition feature.
> 
> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features? 
> What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management 
> Server?
> 

I can't tell if Zope is unique, but CMSWatch gives you a good overview 
about CMS Products:
   http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/

Tonico

-- 
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Contact me
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Visit my HomePage
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From goedicke@goedsole.com  Thu Mar 13 21:05:01 2003
From: goedicke@goedsole.com (William Goedicke)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:05:01 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <m3r89bf05e.fsf@mail.goedsole.com>

Dear Frederic - 

Frederic Faure <ffaure@bigfoot.com> writes:

> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those
> features? What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content
> Management Server?

You'll probably find that "web application servers" like weblogic and
websphere are more comparable.  Though those tools suffer from the
excessive costs and poor support that are endemic to commercial
software.

     Yours -      Billy

============================================================
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                          http://www.goedsole.com:8080      
============================================================

          Lest we forget:

The best documentation is a collection of succinctly explained simple
examples of every aspect of a system.

	- William Goedicke


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 13 21:18:09 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:18:09 -0600
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
In-Reply-To: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E70F591.2030605@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp? 
>
I'm not aware of any. I think it would be good it Zope had some closer
relatives (both for zope and the world in general), but for some reason
there aren't. One can find several reasons:

1) stuck in the database. A significant number of people in the web app
server area are dead stuck in the relational/SomethingServerPages mode.
They aren't likely to come up with a zopish system.

2) sticky developers. Those who would like such a system found Zope and
no reason to try to redo it. Zope got there first, well, and open.
Later, poorer, or closed hard time up against that.

3) 800-pound gorillas. Other language communities have existing unzopish
frameworks that make other players in that space invisible. Once upon a
time there were competing Java frameworks. Then J2EE and EJBs came
along, and suddenly there was no room anymore. C# was born that way.
Perl has always been THE CGI laanguage. As to C++, well, nobody seems
too interested in web programming in that, and I can see why.

>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
>challenges also like relative slow speed, short of
>programmer(compare with java cpp) and short of elite
>programming environment (like MS visual studio).
>
Speed is an illusory issue on the server side. It is important for
system-level components, real-time operations, and to some extent
interactive applications. App servers are non of those, and speed on the
server side is really a question of hardware. Anything that isn't
grossly slow is probably fine; what you really want is development
speed, maintainability, and other people-related factors.

Besides, the difference between interpreted and compiled languages if
fairly constant, and real speed differences come with the algorithm.

As to programmer populations, there is a valid difference. But I don't
take it for granted that a trying to cater to larger population is
necessarily better: it makes it easier to get lost. And to my way of
thinking, a programmer who can't or won't work in some other scheme
isn't much of one. Especially with such an easy language as Python.

I'll lay off of IDEs and why I think they're a mostly illusory benefit.

>Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
>CPython to JPython. 
>
Every once in a while someone tries this, but it never really takes
root. I don't think the problem is primarily technical: there's just no
real reason. Python is already more portable than Java, and various RPC
schemes make it unnecssary to access Java components in-process.

I happen to think it would be a good thing if Zope were clean enough to
run on any Python implementation, if only to ferret out bugs. But if the
only justification is to be buzzword-compliant, I can live without.

>But how about a rebuild in pure
>java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?
>
Anything's possible. There's nothing really to stop someone from making
a persistent-object/through-the-web/acquisition-ruled/easily-extensible
web application server in Java or Perl or Smalltalk or OCaml or
whatever. One could conceivably even do it in FORTRAN, save that it
would be an abomination and makes my eyes hurt thinking about it.

Is is a good idea? I don't think so. The loss of momentum, if nothing
else, would be deadly. I don't think being Java or some sort of C would
bring significantly more interest, or make the product better: certainly
not to the extent of the risk.

Is it deserved? Not really. Every programmer feels the urge to throw it
all away and rebuild it "knowing what we know now." That should be
resisted unless you're running into serious walls. There is occasional
justification for a rewrite or major refactor: hopping on bandwagons
isn't one of them.

Will it ever happen? Almost definitely not. Besides whatever else above,
Python is the soul of Zope: deceptively simple, flexible, ad hoc,
powerful, and a little mysterious. Zope without Python would be, well,
something completely different.

In the end, it's not really about implementation but results. If it's
good, it'll grow, and who really cares how it's written.

--jcc



From flavio@welke.com  Thu Mar 13 21:29:25 2003
From: flavio@welke.com (Flavio)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:29:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Test variable data type
Message-ID: <79805D115465D311BC26009027B0CA9154F6D1@WELKESRV2>

Hi,

I wonder if someone knows how to test a variables data type. e.g. if
<dtml-var a> is integer or string.

Thanks,	


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From =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Thu Mar 13 21:45:26 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:45:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Test variable data type
In-Reply-To: <79805D115465D311BC26009027B0CA9154F6D1@WELKESRV2>
References: <79805D115465D311BC26009027B0CA9154F6D1@WELKESRV2>
Message-ID: <14912941809.20030313224526@elvix.com>

F> I wonder if someone knows how to test a variables data type. e.g. if
F> <dtml-var a> is integer or string.

IIRC python scripts have a special function : same_type(var1, var2)
if same_type(a, 'any string'):
   return "string !!"

python's normal way , type(a) is restricted for security reasons i
believe, but you can always do it in an external method if you really
need it..

  =20

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 13 21:54:54 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:54:54 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr>
Message-ID: <3E70FE2E.4050605@jcameroncooper.com>

> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those features?

It's certainly unusual. There are a few Java and other OO-dbs that can 
provide hierarchical object persistence. Anything more similar I've 
never heard seen.

> What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content Management 
> Server? 

Definitely no on ColdFusion. The MS thing was built by someone else 
(surprise!) and acquired a year and a half ago or so;  it may look a 
little like Zope, but I think it's also a big fat "no" on that too.

> Also, I asked the question a couple of months ago, but can't for the 
> life of me find the answers to books you would recommend besides "The 
> Zope Book" and "Zope Web Application Development and Content Management".

Besides the New Riders book, I hear the "Zope Bible" title is pretty 
good. There has long been rumor of an O'Reilly title, but if they're 
working on one, it isn't here yet. I've started working on a 
web-equivalent of a Zope book (not that I wouldn't entertain a 
publisher), but it'll take some time to get its legs, and it's not on 
paper, so that probably won't help you much.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 13 22:01:28 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:01:28 -0600
Subject: [Zope] dump a wiki?
In-Reply-To: <86r89b5cwx.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <86r89b5cwx.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <3E70FFB8.8030003@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I have a wiki with some content I would like to dump to an external
>file, txt, pdf or html would be fine.  How do I do this?
>  
>
I can only make a semi-informed guess:

they should have a way to get the source (src(), uncookedBody(), etc...) 
or rendered output (index_html, perhaps others). You should be able to 
located these with a quick browse through the source or API docs (if 
any.) Write a tree-walker script that calls this method on all your Wiki 
page objects and saves the results, either as a File (perhaps to a 
LocalFS), or on disk if you use an ExternalMethod.

Or make wget work. Can't say how, though. (You might also look at curl, 
which I think does this.)

       --jcc



From luciano@hiper.com.br  Thu Mar 13 22:17:33 2003
From: luciano@hiper.com.br (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:17:33 -0300
Subject: [Zope] dump a wiki?
In-Reply-To: <3E70FFB8.8030003@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <96D1F044-55A1-11D7-9312-0003939E3E58@hiper.com.br>

On quinta-feira, mar 13, 2003, at 19:01 America/Sao_Paulo, J Cameron 
Cooper wrote:
> Write a tree-walker script that calls this method on all your Wiki 
> page objects and saves the results, either as a File (perhaps to a 
> LocalFS), or on disk if you use an ExternalMethod.
>

After the invention of ZopeFind and ZCatalogs, there's no need to write 
tree-walking scripts in Zope. Just Find or Index your stuff and you 
have a nice flat list to scan.

In fact, while indexing you can apply any method to all your objects in 
one pass. Just create an index named after your export method, and when 
you use the Find tab of the ZCatalog, the method will be called on all 
objects that match your find criteria.

--
Luciano



From larry_prikockis@natureserve.org  Thu Mar 13 22:18:14 2003
From: larry_prikockis@natureserve.org (larry_prikockis@natureserve.org)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:18:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] LDAPUserFolder and Micro$oft AD (ugh!)
Message-ID: <FBFF1B75591DDA4DA495C4D570EF008E0138D7C3@mangrove.abi.org>

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Greetings fellow Zope-addicts :-)

First-- no need to remind me that LDAPUserFolder isn't in any way designed
specifically to interoperate properly with Active Directory... I'm stuck
with AD for the moment.

I'm running Zope 2.6.1 on Linux (RH 7.1).  I have the latest version of
LDAPUserFolder, python-ldap, open-ldap, etc. installed.  For the most part,
everything works as advertised.  However- there's a weird glitch that crops
up, apparently in the process of searching through certain portions of my
Active Directory structure (over which I have no direct control- despite my
fervent desire to reorganize it more sensibly)

Basically, the structure looks like this:

Dc=mydir,dc=org
	ou=division1
	ou=division2
	ou=division3
	cn=Configuration  (lots of other junk under here ?!!)

User entries can be located under any of the various division ou's, so I
need to use a base DN: dc=mydir,dc=org and "subtree" for the scope setting.

What I get, when searching for a user entry is the following: 

Error: 
{'desc': "Can't contact LDAP server", 'info':
'Referral:\nldap://mydir.org/CN=Configuration,DC=mydir,DC=org'} 

If I specify a user base DN of, e.g., ou=division1,dc=mydir,dc=org, then all
is well (though of course, I'm not really searching the full scope of
records I want to search).

Any ideas on how to tell where this error might be occurring (it strikes me
that it's probably related to something in python-ldap or open-ldap, rather
than the LDAPUser folder, but I don't know.)

Or is there some way I can tell modify the code to ignore the
CN=configuration portion of the directory tree? (since that seems to be the
root of the problem for whatever reason and it's not something I need to
look at for user authentication anyway).

Sorry for the long-winded message, but this has been driving me batty and
I'm hoping it'll ring a bell with someone out there.

Thanks much...
Larry Prikockis

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Greetings fellow Zope-addicts :-)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>First-- no need to remind me that LDAPUserFolder =
isn't in any way designed specifically to interoperate properly with =
Active Directory... I'm stuck with AD for the moment.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'm running Zope 2.6.1 on Linux (RH 7.1).&nbsp; I =
have the latest version of LDAPUserFolder, python-ldap, open-ldap, etc. =
installed.&nbsp; For the most part, everything works as =
advertised.&nbsp; However- there's a weird glitch that crops up, =
apparently in the process of searching through certain portions of my =
Active Directory structure (over which I have no direct control- =
despite my fervent desire to reorganize it more sensibly)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Basically, the structure looks like this:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dc=3Dmydir,dc=3Dorg</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>ou=3Ddivision1</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>ou=3Ddivision2</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>ou=3Ddivision3</FONT>
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
SIZE=3D2>cn=3DConfiguration&nbsp; (lots of other junk under here =
?!!)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>User entries can be located under any of the various =
division ou's, so I need to use a base DN: dc=3Dmydir,dc=3Dorg and =
&quot;subtree&quot; for the scope setting.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>What I get, when searching for a user entry is the =
following: </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Error: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>{'desc': &quot;Can't contact LDAP server&quot;, =
'info': =
'Referral:\nldap://mydir.org/CN=3DConfiguration,DC=3Dmydir,DC=3Dorg'} =
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If I specify a user base DN of, e.g., =
ou=3Ddivision1,dc=3Dmydir,dc=3Dorg, then all is well (though of course, =
I'm not really searching the full scope of records I want to =
search).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Any ideas on how to tell where this error might be =
occurring (it strikes me that it's probably related to something in =
python-ldap or open-ldap, rather than the LDAPUser folder, but I don't =
know.)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Or is there some way I can tell modify the code to =
ignore the CN=3Dconfiguration portion of the directory tree? (since =
that seems to be the root of the problem for whatever reason and it's =
not something I need to look at for user authentication =
anyway).</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sorry for the long-winded message, but this has been =
driving me batty and I'm hoping it'll ring a bell with someone out =
there.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks much...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Larry Prikockis</FONT>
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 13 22:24:40 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:24:40 -0600
Subject: [Zope] dump a wiki?
In-Reply-To: <96D1F044-55A1-11D7-9312-0003939E3E58@hiper.com.br>
References: <96D1F044-55A1-11D7-9312-0003939E3E58@hiper.com.br>
Message-ID: <3E710528.90801@jcameroncooper.com>

> After the invention of ZopeFind and ZCatalogs, there's no need to 
> write tree-walking scripts in Zope. Just Find or Index your stuff and 
> you have a nice flat list to scan.
>
> In fact, while indexing you can apply any method to all your objects 
> in one pass. Just create an index named after your export method, and 
> when you use the Find tab of the ZCatalog, the method will be called 
> on all objects that match your find criteria.

Hm! Good point. Turns out I'm old-fashioned.

          --jcc



From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar 13 22:20:01 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:20:01 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <3E70FE2E.4050605@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr> <3E70FE2E.4050605@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <3E710411.1090304@agmweb.ca>

> There has long been rumor of an O'Reilly title, but if they're 
> working on one, it isn't here yet. 

O'Reilly has no Zope books planned anymore AFAIK.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar 13 22:30:05 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:30:05 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Test variable data type
In-Reply-To: <79805D115465D311BC26009027B0CA9154F6D1@WELKESRV2>
References: <79805D115465D311BC26009027B0CA9154F6D1@WELKESRV2>
Message-ID: <20030313223005.GA792@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 04:29:25PM -0500, Flavio wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I wonder if someone knows how to test a variables data type. e.g. if
> <dtml-var a> is integer or string.

What are you really trying to do?
Doing different things based on type is not good:
it leads to code that can't treat objects polymorphically.
Somebody creates a string-like class and then discovers it
won't work with your code because you can't handle anything
that isn't really "a string".

In general, python makes it "easier to ask forgiveness
than permission" ... so you  might do things like:
    
# i want to use x as an integer
try:
    x = int(x)
except TypeError:
    return "x can't be used as an integer!"

# i want to use y as a string

try:
    y + ''
except TypeError:
    return "y is not string-like!"



-- 

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http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's THE SOLID GOAT!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From wayne@c-media.com.au  Thu Mar 13 23:01:01 2003
From: wayne@c-media.com.au (Wayne Connolly)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:01:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Help: mod_proxy exploit on apache + zope
Message-ID: <20030313230101.85503.qmail@web40011.mail.yahoo.com>

All,

My server was used for hacking other servers by some
morons. mod_proxy was set wide open - we were getting
used as a relay for attacks on all sorts of servers.
For the sake of people getting attacked, I've had to
set it to Deny from all. 
 
This seems to have broken my zope sites, however.

I have a machine with virtual hosts with freebsd,
apache2, and zope. Im using rewrite rules to make zope
work. Both mod proxy and mod rewrite are enabled.

Does anyone know of a fix?

We need to only allow certain interactions with zope
to take place(localhost) and that is from zope
domains.

I heard about the use of
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_cgid.html
with zope and apache2... can anyone help? If they can
ill write up a full how-to on it as it is of a high
importance for zope hosters i think...

Panicing,

Wayne.
wayne@c-media.com.au

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From Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca  Thu Mar 13 23:08:03 2003
From: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca (Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:08:03 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help: mod_proxy exploit on apache + zope
Message-ID: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306D8@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>

Wayne,

Heh, I feel for you! I've had a server hacked in the past :)

Yes, you can close down your mod_proxy by simply using:

        <LocationMatch "^[^/]">
                Deny from all 
        </LocationMatch>

I actually got that off of the Zope website. It refuses requests that don't
start with "/" ...

This way only requests that are local are accepted, I even tested it and it
worked fine, you get a nice Apache access denied error if you try to
transparently use the proxy.

Hope this helps!
J.F.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Connolly [mailto:wayne_connolly@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:01 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Help: mod_proxy exploit on apache + zope


All,

My server was used for hacking other servers by some
morons. mod_proxy was set wide open - we were getting
used as a relay for attacks on all sorts of servers.
For the sake of people getting attacked, I've had to
set it to Deny from all. 
 
This seems to have broken my zope sites, however.

I have a machine with virtual hosts with freebsd,
apache2, and zope. Im using rewrite rules to make zope
work. Both mod proxy and mod rewrite are enabled.

Does anyone know of a fix?

We need to only allow certain interactions with zope
to take place(localhost) and that is from zope
domains.

I heard about the use of
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_cgid.html
with zope and apache2... can anyone help? If they can
ill write up a full how-to on it as it is of a high
importance for zope hosters i think...

Panicing,

Wayne.
wayne@c-media.com.au

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From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 13 23:09:01 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:09:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] HTML product?
In-Reply-To: <20030312073508.18747.qmail@web15201.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030312073508.18747.qmail@web15201.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15985.3981.951385.456065@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chen Fu wrote at 2003-3-12 15:35 +0800:
 > I often save useful web page down to disk for an
 > archive, or make CHM by some toolkit. Recently i setup
 > my own zope site, and i wonder whether there is
 > already a product that can pick up the data saved from
 > IE and catalog them to make it possible for google
 > like search?
 > any idea or suggestion?

You can use LocalFS and then catalog (regularly) its content.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 13 23:08:25 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:08:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <3E6E8B60.1040303@web.de>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>
 <15982.27018.862212.519729@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <3E6E8B60.1040303@web.de>
Message-ID: <15985.3945.270123.32672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-12 02:20 +0100:
 > Hi Dieter,
 > 
 > Dieter Maurer wrote:
 > > Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-11 14:54 +0100:
 > >  > I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
 > >  > Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
 > >  > 
 > >  > Traceback (innermost last):
 > >  >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
 > >  >    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
 > >  >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
 > >  >    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
 > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
 > >  >    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
 > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
 > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
 > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
 > >  > KeyError: ZopeTime
 > > 
 > > Apparently, the root of your web site is not found (this
 > > "Application" object defines "ZopeTime").
 > Ok. - Very enlightening! :) My mind isn't object-orientated enough yet. ;-)
 > > 
 > > Usually this means, that a DTML object is called without
 > > its positional parameters.
 > > 
 > > Unfortunately, the new tracebacks do not longer tell
 > > about the objects affected. I expect the "OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124"
 > > to be the culprit (more precisely, the code in the DTML Method
 > > that calls this DTML Document).
 > Document?

Yes, I see (in the traceback) that is is a DTML Document:

     Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
     
 > - Shouldn't it read: "...that calls this DTML object" - if i 
 > got the above explanation right (?)

The DTML Documents seems to be called wrong (from the DTML Method).

 > So i'll do some LOG before line 124 now
 >       LOG("bself",TRACE,bself)
 > 124  r=apply(HTML.__call__, (self, bself, REQUEST), kw)
 > do you think this is right?

No. This time a LOG message does not help much.

If I am right, then you should look at the DTML Methods
source and check whether the DTML Document is called correctly.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 13 23:09:48 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:09:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Complex <dtml-in> query sorting
In-Reply-To: <200303121930.41469.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303121930.41469.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <15985.4028.582949.68361@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-12 19:30 +0100:
 > <dtml-in "[getObject(record['oid']) for record in sql_method(params)]" 
 > sort_expr="getSortValue()">

Try

   <dtml-in .... sort=getSortValue>



Dieter


From dave-zope@dnh.sk.ca  Thu Mar 13 23:43:06 2003
From: dave-zope@dnh.sk.ca (Dave Hall)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:43:06 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Help: mod_proxy exploit on apache + zope
In-Reply-To: <20030313230101.85503.qmail@web40011.mail.yahoo.com>; from wayne_connolly@yahoo.com on Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:01:01PM -0800
References: <20030313230101.85503.qmail@web40011.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030313174306.B14909@dnh.sk.ca>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:01:01PM -0800, Wayne Connolly wrote:
> All,
> 
> My server was used for hacking other servers by some
> morons. mod_proxy was set wide open - we were getting
> used as a relay for attacks on all sorts of servers.
> For the sake of people getting attacked, I've had to
> set it to Deny from all. 

Are you using it as a regular proxy or just to front-end Zope?

If you're just front-ending Zope, then check to make sure "ProxyResuests"
is NOT set to On.  This will enable the proxy service which you don't
need.

You will need the proxy module loaded for rewrite to fetch the URL from
Zope but you shouldn't need the proxy service enabled.

> This seems to have broken my zope sites, however.

Yup.  mod_rewrite uses parts of mod_proxy.

-- 

Dave

===============================================================
| <- You must be smarter than this stick to ride
     the Internet		-Mike Handler
===============================================================


From alienoid@is.lg.ua  Thu Mar 13 23:48:03 2003
From: alienoid@is.lg.ua (Ruslan Spivak)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:48:03 +0200
Subject: [Zope] TextIndexNG question
Message-ID: <3E7118B3.1090706@is.lg.ua>

Hello!

When i search from search form with symbol '*' like 'englishword*',
i get results, but making 'russianword*' doesn't return any results.

Any suggestions and help is very appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Ruslan




From wayne@c-media.com.au  Fri Mar 14 00:26:23 2003
From: wayne@c-media.com.au (Wayne Connolly)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:26:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Help: mod_proxy exploit on apache + zope
Message-ID: <20030314002623.94563.qmail@web40011.mail.yahoo.com>

Dave and Jean,

Thanks very much for your help... i tried first of all
Jeans
soln(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/110797)
which didnt work. Then i tried Daves
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zope/message/110805)and
this one worked. 

Thanks dave... my sites are back up and running.. and
even the attacks ceased... luck me.. Thank-fully i
captured enough pachets from the bastard... so i
believe he will feel the wrath of wayne... lucky for
me he's on DSL :-)

Wow... stress free again...

Regards,

Wayne


--- In zope@yahoogroups.com, Dave Hall
<dave-zope@d...> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 03:01:01PM -0800, Wayne
Connolly wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > My server was used for hacking other servers by
some
> > morons. mod_proxy was set wide open - we were
getting
> > used as a relay for attacks on all sorts of
servers.
> > For the sake of people getting attacked, I've had
to
> > set it to Deny from all. 
> 
> Are you using it as a regular proxy or just to
front-end Zope?
> 
> If you're just front-ending Zope, then check to make
sure "ProxyResuests"
> is NOT set to On.  This will enable the proxy
service which you don't
> need.
> 
> You will need the proxy module loaded for rewrite to
fetch the URL from
> Zope but you shouldn't need the proxy service
enabled.
> 
> > This seems to have broken my zope sites, however.
> 
> Yup.  mod_rewrite uses parts of mod_proxy.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Dave
> 
>
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From lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 01:16:30 2003
From: lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com (LIM TIENAIK)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 01:16:30 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Unable create photo object using dtml and python
Message-ID: <BAY1-F733eEHJtfob7b00004f4a@hotmail.com>

i just took up zope and still experimenting with it.
What is a file upload object..? Can you show me an example?

>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:19:29 +0100
>From: "Stefan H. Holek" <stefan@epy.co.at>
>To: LIM TIENAIK <lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com>
>cc: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Unable create photo object using dtml and python
>
>The file parameter you pass to manage_addPhoto must be a FileUpload 
>object=20
>not simply a filename.
>
>Stefan
>
>
>--On Donnerstag, 13. M=E4rz 2003 15:59 +0000 LIM TIENAIK=20
><lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > 	I would like to ask for a little help with the photo and photo folder
> > product. I have installed it on zope, but adding photo dont seems to 
>work
> > with either dtml or python. The syntax i used to add a photo is
> > <dtml-call "manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title,
> > file)"> and the syntax i used in python is
> > context.manage_addProduct['Photo'].manage_addPhoto(name,title,file).
> > Those 2 ways dont work and the error message from zope i receive is 
>Error
> > Type: AttributeError
> > Error Value: read
> > Traceback (innermost last):
> >   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, 
>line
> > 150, in publish_module   File C:\Program
> > Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 114, in publish
> > File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 158,
> > in zpublisher_exception_hook     (Object: skyheavens)
> >   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, 
>line
> > 98, in publish   File C:\Program
> > Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, in mapply
> > (Object: addPhotoScript)
> >   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, 
>line
> > 39, in call_object     (Object: addPhotoScript)
> >   File C:\Program
> > Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 252, in
> > __call__     (Object: addPhotoScript)
> >   File C:\Program
> > Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Shared\DC\Scripts\Bindings.py, line 283, in
> > _bindAndExec     (Object: addPhotoScript)
> >   File C:\Program
> > Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\PythonScripts\PythonScript.py, line
> > 291, in _exec     (Object: addPhotoScript)
> >     (Info: ({'script': <PythonScript instance at 01849B40>, 'context':
> > <Folder instance at 01783810>, 'container': <Folder instance at
> > 01783810>, 'traverse_subpath': []}, ('picuture', 'a new picture',
> > 'C:\\WINDOWS\\Desktop\\shirt-design\\cover2.jpg'), {}, None))   File
> > Script (Python), line 1, in addPhotoScript
> >   File C:\Program Files\skyheavens\lib\python\Products\Photo\Photo.py,
> > line 654, in manage_addPhoto AttributeError: (see above)
> >
> >
> > I hope that someone can help me with this. Thanks
> >
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>Message: 18
>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:24:27 -0600
>From: "Michael R. Schwab" 
><Michael.Schwab-mail.zope.org@icantbelieveididthat.com>
>To: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
>CC:  sean.upton@uniontrib.com,  zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope product security question
>
>Chris Withers wrote:
> > Michael R. Schwab wrote:
> >
> >> The issue that I'm facing seems to be Zope's security model.  The
> >> ZDG's security guide has even specified that object properties that
> >> are basic Python types cannot have their permissions set via the usual
> >> security.declarePublic() call (this includes 'id', 'meta_type', 
>'title').
> >
> > This is true.
> >
> > Yoru options are:
> >
> > 1. setDefaultAccess('deny') and then provide setter and accessor methdos
> > for the attributes in question.
> >
> > 2. I believe setDefaultAccess can be passed a list or function that
> > determines whether an attribute is accessible. You'd have to do some
> > research on this.
>
>Ok, to implement via option #2:
>
>Set the following security declarations:
>
>__roles__ = ()
>security = ClassSecurityInfo()
>security.setDefaultAccess( {'id':1,
>                              'meta_type':1,
>                              'title':1} )
>
>This allows public access to the 'id', 'meta_type', and 'title', but
>disallows access to all other properties such as 'ctime'.
>Alternatively, you can also specify an inaccessible property with
>'ctime':0 in the security.setDefaultAccess() call.
>
>Its a bit of a hoop jumping lesson, but it works.  Thanks Chris!
>
> >> I don't want to specify security.setDefaultAccess( 'allow' ) as this
> >> would allow access to mutable types within my product from scripts and
> >> defeats the purpose of setting a strict default security policy.
> >
> >
> > Be careful. OFS.SimpleItem.SimpleItem does this anyway, so you'll have
> > to ensure you specifically set the policy in your product.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Chris
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 19
>From: "Michael Havard" <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:43:24 +0000
>
>Maybe we're looking at this from the wrong direction. Maybe the best way to
>leverage those skills and toolsets is in the area of interoperation instead
>of porting the whole shebang from trendy platform to trendy platform.
>
>For example lets say on my team I have 1 python, 6 java, and 2 .net people.
>I could use the python guy to create a product that communicated with a
>larger product created by the 6 java developers that used some other
>component created by the .net people.
>
>These languages don't have to be used to the exclusion of all else. I see
>this same thing happen in Java based web development. None of the java
>programmers want to know anything at all about 
>HTML/CSS/Javascript/XML/XSLT.
>They want to focus on Java generating it all for them and it ending up
>perfectly on the other side - sans designer. They see no value whatsoever 
>in
>learning or much less coding any script, html, or css. It's all about JSP,
>STRUTS, whathaveyou(which of course has to be learned, but that seems to be
>out of their realm of understanding).
>
>I fear that Java programmers of today are going to be the COBOL programmers
>of tommorrow. They'll be 55 years old extolling the virtues of the virtual
>machine and JIT well after something else has become popular. They'll be
>locked into a decreasing job market because they refused to go outside of
>their box and learn anything new. They'll end up like Powerbuilder
>programmers ;).
>
>
> >From: Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>
> >To: Chen Fu <novalet@yahoo.com.cn>,zope@zope.org
> >Subject: Re: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
> >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:45:47 -0800
> >
> >At 07:15 PM 3/12/2003, =?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?= wrote:
> >>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
> >>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
> >>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp?
> >
> >If people who programmed in c# or java cared about using good tools, 
>they'd
> >have switched over to Python by now.  :-)
> >
> >>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
> >>challenges also like relative slow speed
> >
> >Python code won't execute as fast as assembler, but you'll finish your
> >project a lot faster and have an easier time maintaining it.
> >
> >>, short of
> >>programmer(compare with java cpp)
> >
> >Python is today poised where Linux was about 6-7 years ago... most people
> >have barely heard of it and only a few have found out first-hand how
> >utterly it eclipses just about everything other choice in a wide range of
> >applications.  Six years ago was a great time to be building your
> >credentials as a Linux guru... now is a great time to be investing your
> >time in Python.
> >
> >>and short of elite
> >>programming environment (like MS visual studio).
> >
> >There are overpriced IDEs for Python too.  :-)  Anyway, 90% of the 
>problems
> >solved by IDEs just aren't problems in Python.  Turn on syntax 
>highlighting
> >in Vim and you've got pretty much all the environment you could possibly
> >need.
> >
> >>Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
> >>CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
> >>java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?
> >
> >A more important question is why you'd bother.  Why waste important
> >development time achieving barely any more performance than you might 
>have
> >gotten out of a memory upgrade?  Besides, who want to recompile every 
>time
> >you upgrade a product?
> >
> >Evaluating Python (or Zope) for its speed of execution is asking the 
>wrong
> >set of questions about this kind of software.  Performance matters 
>*some*,
> >but not nearly as much as development cost, maintenance cost, and time to
> >market.  If you work in an environment where software gets validated or
> >audited, you just can't beat Python for its clarity.  When push comes to
> >shove, it's usually a lot easier to get more hardware than more hours of
> >good programming talent.
> >
> >If you want to improve Zope's performance, you can start by delegating
> >more.  Proxy aggressively.  Serve all static content (especially images)
> >out of Apache.  Do more load balancing.  Upgrade to ZEO.  Once you look 
>at
> >the big picture, there are very few situations where tweaking low-level
> >code is the most efficient way to conceive of improving performance.
> >Just because Zope *can* serve as an all-in-one tool doesn't mean that's 
>the
> >best way to use it.
> >
> >There are situations where writing the smallest, fastest thing possible 
>is
> >critical... most web apps just aren't in that domain.  If you're having
> >performance problems in a web app, your time is almost always better 
>spent
> >tweaking the graphics than just about anything else.
> >
> >My $.02,
> >
> >Dylan
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>Message: 20
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Struggle to call a Zclass object from another web 
>object
>From: pieter claassen <pieter@openauth.co.uk>
>Reply-To: pieter@openauth.co.uk
>To: Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>
>Cc: zope@zope.org
>Organization: OpenAuth Limited
>Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:43:56 +0000
>
>Ok, point taken, but...
>
>The folder that I placed my product (remember we are talking ZClass
>product here) in does have a standard_html_header and footer. So this
>looks like some kind of bug and the object traversal is not working. All
>I want to do is include the result of the __call__ in a html page so
>that I can __call__ a number of objects (just by including them as
><dtml-var>) and return their results in one page.
>
>This works fine for any native zope object (folder, file etc.) but for
>my custom Zclass based product, it fails.
>
>Another pointer is that when I do this
><dtml-var newster>
>
>I get the following rendition in my web page
>
><NewsManager at newster>
>
>I have worked around the problem by calling the Object URL in an inline
>frame, but that is a little lame.
>
>Here is my ZClass's index_html
>
><dtml-in "objectValues('Message')">
>
><dtml-unless expire>
><table width="606" border="1" cellspacing="2">
><tr><td>
><h1><dtml-var title></h1>
></td></tr>
><tr><td>
><h2><dtml-var summary></h2>
></td></tr>
><tr><td>
><p><dtml-var body>
></td></tr>
></table>
></dtml-unless>
>
></dtml-in>
>
>And this is the error that I get when I call it as follows:
><dtml-with newster>
><dtml-var expr="newster.index_html()">
></dtml-with>
>
>Error traceback
>Traceback (innermost last):
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>   Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
>    - __traceback_info__: newster
>   Module <string>, line 2, in f
>   Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 628, in renderwob
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
>    - __traceback_info__: objectValues
>   Module <string>, line 2, in f
>NameError: global name 'objectValues' is not defined
>
>Thanks,
>Pieter
>
>On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 15:18, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> > The problem is you're having is not the problem you think you're having. 
>  :-)
> >
> > You're getting an error for standard_html_header.  Zope hasn't gotten to
> > parse the expression you're fiddling with yet, so don't be surprised if
> > what you're doing continues to produce errors.
> >
> > Tracebacks are a very good thing to get in the habit of reading.  
>Typically
> > the most important information is contained in the last couple steps,
> > though in Zope, it's sometimes the case that the real error is five or 
>six
> > steps in.
> >
> > In this case your error is right on the last line:
> > Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__ KeyError:
> > standard_html_header
> >
> > When objects get rendered, the __call__ method is typically used on
> > them.  Everything to the left of that is unlikely to be useful to you 
>until
> > you get to the point where you're modifying source code.  Looking to the
> > right of __call__, a KeyError usually pops up when an object name can 
>not
> > be resolved by Zope.  This error is telling you that Zope was unable to
> > find the standard_html_header object.
> >
> > So make sure there is a standard_html_header in your root folder that 
>you
> > have permissions to view it.   That should fix the problem... or at 
>least,
> > it will get you along to the next one. :-)
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Dylan
> >
> >
> > At 02:09 AM 3/13/2003, pieter claassen wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > >I guess I still don't get Zope completely.
> > >
> > >I wrote a news manager Zclass that works well. Normally I get to the
> > >object by calling the newster/index_html method (the default 
>behaviour).
> > >
> > >I want to integrate it into my website and in my root directory I have
> > >the following objects:
> > >
> > >index_html (dhtml object)
> > >menu (dhtml object)
> > >top (dhtml object)
> > >news (Zclass object)
> > >
> > >I want to do use my index_html to do pull all these objects together on
> > >a single page like:
> > >
> > ><dtml-var standard_html_header>
> > ><dtml-var top>
> > ><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
> > ><tr>
> > ><td>
> > ><dtml-var menu>
> > ></td>
> > ><td><dtml-var news></td>
> > ></tr>
> > ></table>
> > ><dtml-var standard_html_footer>
> > >
> > >But, clearly calling <dtml-vat news> just doesn't call the index_html
> > >method on the news object and include the result.
> > >
> > >I have tried things like <dtml-var expr="news.index_html()"> and that
> > >get an error that
> > >
> > >Traceback (innermost last):
> > >
> > >       * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
> > >       * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
> > >       * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
> > >       * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
> > >       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
> > >       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
> > >         __traceback_info__: newster
> > >       * Module <string>, line 2, in f
> > >       * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 119, in __call__
> > >       * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
> > >KeyError: standard_html_header
> > >
> > >Somebody out there must have solved this problem? Any help is
> > >appreciated.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >Pieter
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
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>Message: 21
>From: pieter claassen <pieter@openauth.co.uk>
>Reply-To: pieter@openauth.co.uk
>To: zope@zope.org
>Organization: OpenAuth Limited
>Date: 13 Mar 2003 16:51:38 +0000
>Subject: [Zope] Product (ZClass) distribution rights management
>
>Apologies for the repeat post but I have not had an answer on this one.
>
>1. Is there any way to override the permissions built into ZCLass
>product distribution framework so that I can create recover the
>development code that I thought I could modify, but it turned out that I
>don't have the rights to repackage the code?
>
>2. Where does the modifications to the Zclass based product gets stored
>(it is certainly not stored in the /lib/python/Products/productx as I
>have zipped that up and moved it over to my new machines and it was the
>original version without any of my modifications)
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>This problem might turn out to be a serious issue and very damaging for
>Zclass based products.
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>Thanks,
>Pieter
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>
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>Message: 22
>To: "Michael Havard" <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>Cc: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
>From: William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
>Date: 13 Mar 2003 11:56:49 -0500
>
>Dear Y'all -
>
> > >At 07:15 PM 3/12/2003, =?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?= wrote:
>
> > >>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
> > >>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
> > >>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp?
> > >
> > >>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
> > >>challenges also like relative slow speed
>
>Of course, you must be suggesting Python is slow relative to c#, cpp.
>Python like a decent abacus is blindingly fast compared to java.
>
>      Yours -      Billy
>
>============================================================
>      William Goedicke     goedicke@goedsole.com
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>============================================================
>
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>
>When you think something nice about someone you're with, tell them
>about it.
>
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>
>
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From nicoe@altern.org  Fri Mar 14 01:23:24 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 02:23:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <20030313200210.GB28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
References: <2147483647.1047585116@[192.168.0.2]> <20030313200210.GB28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <20030314012324.GA29602@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

* Nicolas =C9vrard  [21:02 13/03/03 CET]:=20
>* Andreas Jung  [19:51 13/03/03 CET]:=20
>
>>try here/getOwner
>
>Yep, already tried that ... but it didn't worked :(
>

Well I finally find a way around but I don't think this is really the
right thing to do :

I created the python script :

return context.owner_info()['id']

with the proxy of Manager and now it works !

--=20
(=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


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From: info@greenzonemedia.com (info@greenzonemedia.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:37:52 -0800
Subject: [Zope] SPAMLESS
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:04:39 -0800
Subject: [Zope] SPAMLESS
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar 14 04:51:01 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 22:51:01 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <3E6FA630.5050600@lycos.es>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
 <3E6FA630.5050600@lycos.es>
Message-ID: <1047617461.4948.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Does BackTalk support External Editor?

On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:27, Jordi wrote:
> Luton, Alex wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
> >user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
> >can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
> >product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?
> >
> >Thanks
> >  
> >
> The product you are looking for is called BalkTalk
> 
> More info at http://sourceforge.net/projects/backtalk/
> 
> HTH
> 
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar 14 05:03:33 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 23:03:33 -0600
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the following ...
Message-ID: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I am storing user information in a postgresql database. I need a login
form and an easy to customize 'user creation' form/script.

What is the best user folder replacement to achieve the above?

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http://www.interlix.com



From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar 14 05:06:52 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 13 Mar 2003 23:06:52 -0600
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the
 following ...
In-Reply-To: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1047618411.4947.54.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Oh yeah ... I forgot...

I am also using Zope 2.6.1 if it matters.

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 23:03, Edward Muller wrote:
> I am storing user information in a postgresql database. I need a login
> form and an easy to customize 'user creation' form/script.
> 
> What is the best user folder replacement to achieve the above?
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Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
  Fax: 417-862-0572

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From chrism@zope.com  Fri Mar 14 05:21:13 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 00:21:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <1047617461.4948.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
 <3E6FA630.5050600@lycos.es>
 <1047617461.4948.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1047619274.1421.26.camel@james>

Yes.  At least the CVS version.

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 23:51, Edward Muller wrote:
> Does BackTalk support External Editor?
> 
> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:27, Jordi wrote:
> > Luton, Alex wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
> > >user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
> > >can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
> > >product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >  
> > >
> > The product you are looking for is called BalkTalk
> > 
> > More info at http://sourceforge.net/projects/backtalk/
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists - 
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> -- 
> Edward Muller
> 
> Interlix - President
> 
> Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> 
> Phone: 417-862-0573
>  Cell: 417-844-2435
>   Fax: 417-862-0572
> 
> http://www.interlix.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )




From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Fri Mar 14 06:26:26 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:26:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] TextIndexNG question
In-Reply-To: <3E7118B3.1090706@is.lg.ua>
References: <3E7118B3.1090706@is.lg.ua>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047626786@[192.168.0.2]>

please provide a detailed testcase.


-aj

--On Freitag, 14. M=E4rz 2003 1:48 Uhr +0200 Ruslan Spivak=20
<alienoid@is.lg.ua> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> When i search from search form with symbol '*' like 'englishword*',
> i get results, but making 'russianword*' doesn't return any results.
>
> Any suggestions and help is very appreciated.
> Thanks in advance,
> Ruslan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )






From Thomas Guettler <thomas@thomas-guettler.de>  Fri Mar 14 07:27:49 2003
From: Thomas Guettler <thomas@thomas-guettler.de> (Thomas Guettler)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:27:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Workflow
In-Reply-To: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBMEPACBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
References: <LLENIFBNEAGOHLNMBEOBMEPACBAA.jan.maska@systinet.com>
Message-ID: <20030314072749.GA852@thomas-guettler.de>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 06:24:28PM +0100, Jan Ma?ka wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a very simple question:
> 
> I need a workflow in ZOPE.
> Doesn't really matter if it's some module, product or a set of
> Python/DTML/whatever objects to import and build on them.
> What I need is a straightforward thing to start with and to build on.

My Python Product OOPServer has a very simple workflow:

There is a method getActions() which needs to be implemented by
you. It returns all actions which the user can execute at the current
workflow state.

You can look at it at http://guettli.sf.net

 thomas

-- 
Thomas Guettler <guettli@thomas-guettler.de>
http://www.thomas-guettler.de



From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Fri Mar 14 08:11:54 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:11:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the following ...
In-Reply-To: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <284146862.20030314091154@elvix.com>

EM> I am storing user information in a postgresql database. I need a logi=
n
EM> form and an easy to customize 'user creation' form/script.

EM> What is the best user folder replacement to achieve the above?

exUserFolder is a good option. It has ok support for postgreSQL
out-of-the-box and is widely used. Also has some neat extra features,
like caching and property-handling for users.

http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/exUserFolder


--
Geir B=E6kholt



From lsh@wo.cz  Fri Mar 14 09:07:42 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:07:42 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Load monitor
Message-ID: <E18tkPq-0000Vp-00@mail.python.org>

Hi all,

I am very sorry for that question, I was browse products, but does not find
(maybe bad finding).

Does somebody know how to show online Zope load? (cpu, requests/sec etc)

Ideally, when it will be recognize domains in VHM.

Many thanks,

J. Lukesh


From lennart@regebro.nu  Fri Mar 14 09:03:58 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:03:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Is Zope unique? Books?
In-Reply-To: <b4qre9$av9$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030313183338.00b02888@mail.club-internet.fr> <b4qre9$av9$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E719AFE.2090902@regebro.nu>

Tonico Strasser wrote:
> Frederic Faure wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> After building sites with PHP and templating engines, including 
>> PHITE... I finally saw the light and understood the advantage of using 
>> a tool that provides an object database at its core, and the 
>> acquisition feature.
>>
>> For my personal knowledge... is Zope unique in providing those 
>> features? What about commercial tools like ColdFusion or MS Content 
>> Management Server?
>>
> 
> I can't tell if Zope is unique, but CMSWatch gives you a good overview 
> about CMS Products:
>   http://www.cmswatch.com/ContentManagement/Products/

Except that last I checked they charger $3000 a year to be on the list. 
(I assume this is only for the commercial products, but anyway), so I 
actually don't really trust it to be a GOOD overview. But it's an 
overview, yes. :)

The best overview of CMS products I have found are unfortunately only in 
german: www.contentmanagement.de

This one is pretty comprehensive too:
http://www.hartman-communicatie.nl/Content/tools.htm



From jmeile@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 11:12:02 2003
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:12:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: MailBoxer question
References: <20030313200904.39856.qmail@web14914.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b4sd08$13h$1@main.gmane.org>

> Does anyone use
> MailBoxer(www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/MailBoxer)
> for their mailing list?
I know the Mail lists of the german Zope users group (DZUG )
use it whithout any problem in combination with AMaViS to scan
the messages for viruses.

Regards,
Josef





From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Mar 14 11:20:03 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:20:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: MailBoxer question
In-Reply-To: <b4sd08$13h$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <20030313200904.39856.qmail@web14914.mail.yahoo.com> <b4sd08$13h$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <b4sdsg$49r$1@main.gmane.org>

Josef Meile wrote:
>>Does anyone use
>>MailBoxer(www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/MailBoxer)
>>for their mailing list?
> 
> I know the Mail lists of the german Zope users group (DZUG )
> use it whithout any problem in combination with AMaViS to scan
> the messages for viruses.

Hi,

we run MailBoxer at DZUG for several lists with >220 subscribers and 
50-90 Mails / day without problems. We have integrated AMaVis and a 
mail2news2mail-gateway. I use MailBoxer for some other projects at 
university too (400-500 subscribers, but less traffic).

If I remember correctly the Danish Zope User Group uses MailBoxer too...

Cheers, Maik




From samuzeau@oreka.com  Fri Mar 14 11:43:15 2003
From: samuzeau@oreka.com (Pascal Samuzeau)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:43:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] KeyError : =?iso-8859-1?q?str=5Ftime=5Fstart?=
Message-ID: <200303141151.MAA16290@mailhub5.isdnet.net>

Hi,                                                                   
                                                                      
I try to use CallProfiler, but I've this error with some DTML.        
What's happening?                                                     
                                                                      
-----------------------------------------------------------           
Traceback (innermost last):                                           
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish                      
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply                        
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object                  
  Module App.special_dtml, line 61, in __call__                       
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__            
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 705, in renderwob               
KeyError: str_time_start                                              
-----------------------------------------------------------           
                                                                      
Sincerily                                                             
PS                                                                    
--------------------------------------------------                    
Oreka ! Nous sommes l'internet moins cher !                           
Surfez 25% moins cher avec http://www.oreka.com                       


From samuzeau@oreka.com  Fri Mar 14 11:46:22 2003
From: samuzeau@oreka.com (Pascal Samuzeau)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:46:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Performance of dtml-tree in ZMI
Message-ID: <200303141154.MAA54990@mailhub7.isdnet.net>

Hi,                                                                   
                                                                      
Zope2.6.0 under Win XP                                                
                                                                      
Since some days, the performance of the result of the dtml-tree of the
left window of the ZMI is going lower to lower. Now, when I just      
recognize me from manage, I have to wait 1 minute to get the tree     
management.                                                           
                                                                      
Any idea about this slow performance?                                 
                                                                      
Sincerily                                                             
PS                                                                    
--------------------------------------------------                    
Oreka ! Nous sommes l'internet moins cher !                           
Surfez 25% moins cher avec http://www.oreka.com                       


From florian.konnertz@web.de  Fri Mar 14 13:26:07 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:26:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime(): Basic question
In-Reply-To: <484585346.1047453056@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <3E6E76C8.6000908@web.de> <484585346.1047453056@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <3E71D86F.2080001@web.de>

Andreas Jung wrote:
> ZopeTime() returns a DateTime instance. Check the DateTime API for details.
> 
> -aj
> 

Thanks, Andreas for the info.

(I hope i'll get my ZopeTime object back soon!!)

Florian


-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From florian.konnertz@web.de  Fri Mar 14 13:32:03 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:32:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] KeyError : str_time_start
In-Reply-To: <200303141151.MAA16290@mailhub5.isdnet.net>
References: <200303141151.MAA16290@mailhub5.isdnet.net>
Message-ID: <3E71D9D3.2020100@web.de>

Pascal Samuzeau wrote:
> Hi,                                                                   
>                                                                       
> I try to use CallProfiler, but I've this error with some DTML.        
> What's happening?                                                     
>                                                                       
> -----------------------------------------------------------           
> Traceback (innermost last):                                           
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish                      
>   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply                        
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object                  
>   Module App.special_dtml, line 61, in __call__                       
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__            
>   Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 705, in renderwob               
> KeyError: str_time_start                                              
> -----------------------------------------------------------           
>                                                                      

Hi Pascal, I've a similar error related to time (missing ZopeTime 
object) and DTMLDocuments, see my recent posting. I'm just interested, i 
hope solutions for your problem will help me too.

What Zope are u using? Also 2.6.1 ? - The prob oocurs for me with ZWiki 
pages (0.16).

I wish you a solution soon! I'm sorry i can not present it to you!

Cheers,
Florian



-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From stave@brailcom.org  Fri Mar 14 12:17:44 2003
From: stave@brailcom.org (stave@brailcom.org)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 13:17:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] eldav (webdav in emacs) loads just already proceeded html files
Message-ID: <87hea6w39z.fsf@debian-acer.brailcom.xx>

Hello,
I use this to load index_html:

Ctrl-X Ctrl-F:
Find-file: :http:/localhost:9673/index_html

It will load proceeded html output (without tal, args, ...).

I do know how to load source, not zope output.
I already tried to find out more info about it, without success :-)

Either it is very small mistake, or new technology yet.

I have got tramp installed in emacs too.

        Thanks,
--=20
      Jan Stav=ECl=20


From bryan.andregg@duke.edu  Fri Mar 14 13:58:36 2003
From: bryan.andregg@duke.edu (Bryan C. Andregg)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:58:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] a login link
Message-ID: <20030314135836.GF26096@mc.duke.edu>

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I'd like to provide a link, whereby clicking it would generate a login prom=
pt
and then return to the calling page.

I thought I'd just create a script, viewable by only the people in the role
that I want to login.

I did this, and tried just to use,

context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(context.REQUEST['HTTP_REFERER'])

This doesn't work. Or I should say, it half works. If the login is successf=
ul,
the page is returned but the user object hasn't been updated (has_roles()
doesn't work) and subsiquent clicks of the link don't prompt for
authentication.

Can anyone tell me why this isn't doing what I want it to, or how to create=
 a
simple "click here to login" script?

Cheers,
--=20
Bryan C. Andregg		Duke University Medical Center
 Programmer			Dept. of Anesthesiology
 e <bryan.andregg@duke.edu>
 p +1 919 684 6201

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From edwardam@interlix.com  Fri Mar 14 14:13:58 2003
From: edwardam@interlix.com (Edward Muller)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 08:13:58 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <1047619274.1421.26.camel@james>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
 <3E6FA630.5050600@lycos.es>
 <1047617461.4948.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <1047619274.1421.26.camel@james>
Message-ID: <1047651238.4948.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Do you mean the cvs version of BackTalk or the CVS version of
ExternalEditor or both?


On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 23:21, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Yes.  At least the CVS version.
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 23:51, Edward Muller wrote:
> > Does BackTalk support External Editor?
> > 
> > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:27, Jordi wrote:
> > > Luton, Alex wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
> > > >user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
> > > >can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
> > > >product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > The product you are looking for is called BalkTalk
> > > 
> > > More info at http://sourceforge.net/projects/backtalk/
> > > 
> > > HTH
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > (Related lists - 
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > -- 
> > Edward Muller
> > 
> > Interlix - President
> > 
> > Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> > Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> > 
> > Phone: 417-862-0573
> >  Cell: 417-844-2435
> >   Fax: 417-862-0572
> > 
> > http://www.interlix.com
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists - 
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
-- 
Edward Muller

Interlix - President

Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
Custom Programming - Network Service & Support

Phone: 417-862-0573
 Cell: 417-844-2435
  Fax: 417-862-0572

http://www.interlix.com



From chrism@zope.com  Fri Mar 14 14:29:30 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 09:29:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope Book and stx
In-Reply-To: <1047651238.4948.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1B532269F8180B45BF3C028CB1566F041642D0@rcs-exchange.rcseng.ac.uk>
 <3E6FA630.5050600@lycos.es>
 <1047617461.4948.49.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <1047619274.1421.26.camel@james>
 <1047651238.4948.63.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1047652170.1420.0.camel@james>

Sorry, BackTalk.

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 09:13, Edward Muller wrote:
> Do you mean the cvs version of BackTalk or the CVS version of
> ExternalEditor or both?
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 23:21, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > Yes.  At least the CVS version.
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 23:51, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > Does BackTalk support External Editor?
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 15:27, Jordi wrote:
> > > > Luton, Alex wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm interested in setting up a site containing documents with
> > > > >user-submitted inline comments, much in the way the Zope Book does. I
> > > > >can see it's using structured text, but I've no idea if a specific
> > > > >product or perhaps the CMF is involved. Can I have a few pointers?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > The product you are looking for is called BalkTalk
> > > > 
> > > > More info at http://sourceforge.net/projects/backtalk/
> > > > 
> > > > HTH
> > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > > (Related lists - 
> > > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > > -- 
> > > Edward Muller
> > > 
> > > Interlix - President
> > > 
> > > Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> > > Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> > > 
> > > Phone: 417-862-0573
> > >  Cell: 417-844-2435
> > >   Fax: 417-862-0572
> > > 
> > > http://www.interlix.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > (Related lists - 
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> -- 
> Edward Muller
> 
> Interlix - President
> 
> Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> 
> Phone: 417-862-0573
>  Cell: 417-844-2435
>   Fax: 417-862-0572
> 
> http://www.interlix.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )




From gunnar.kongsrud@hoyre.no  Fri Mar 14 14:39:06 2003
From: gunnar.kongsrud@hoyre.no (Gunnar Kongsrud)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:39:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Code question
Message-ID: <se71f7ad.058@tmpsrv.hnett.hoyre.no>

Hi, I have a question about a code in pyhton. If the code below make my =
articals sort automatacly articals after 01.01.2003 ho do i get it to sort =
articals from 01.01.2001 to 01.01.2002 by using a simular code?

 python:object.portal_catalog(meta_type=3D'Artikkel', level=3Dobject.level(=
), sort_on=3D'Date', Date=3D['2003-01-01'],sort_order=3D'reverse', =
Date_usage=3D'range:min')



From cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com  Fri Mar 14 14:43:43 2003
From: cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:43:43 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource
Message-ID: <BA9754CF.ABE2%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>

Right now we've got our main Catalog storing only information about a
Zclass, and it's only got one ZCTextindex--on PrincipiaSearchSource. I'd
like people to be able to search the title AND the PrincipiaSearchSource at
the same time--in other words, have both indexed. Is there a way to index
both in the same ZCTextIndex so I don't have to keep two text indexes and
combine searches into both? I'm thinking of trying to index some sort of
method inside the Zclass that combines the two, but I can't seem to figure
out what that method should look like--how do I say "concatenate title and
data into a single piece of data that can be indexed"?

And now to complicate things even more...
Say I want to mix it up a bit and include pictures in my search. Our
pictures have a property called Cutline that would need to be indexed. Could
we trick the Catalog into also indexing Cutline in the same TextIndex? Or am
I just talking crazy now?

Thanks--Chris



From aquraishi@skyesystems.com  Fri Mar 14 14:54:37 2003
From: aquraishi@skyesystems.com (Asad Quraishi)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:54:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] can zope port to java/dotnet?
In-Reply-To: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030313031555.18191.qmail@web15208.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E71ED2D.7040500@skyesystems.com>

There's been a lot of discussion on the tread you started - I'll add my
2 cents.

I don't believe there's any need to port to Java or .Net just because
there is 'too small' a community of python developers. Here's a good
reason to give python a shot. There are few things python can't do that
java can that are useful in a medium-sized system which applies to
99.99% of all systems. As soon as you move to .Net you are held hostage
for a number of reasons: you will pay for everything. How many .Net open
source projects will you find? Reason is that .Net developers pay for
their OS, IDE, and server licenses - why should they give away their
code for free? You are missing out on the fact that the python community
is an open community where much code is shared. The value of this
sharing or intellectual capital is very high - higher IMO than that of a
ready-made python community.

I encourage you to take a look at the website http://www.skippingdot.net
where the author talks about zope, python, linux and .Net. It's not
super-in-depth but boy is it in line with this thread.

I also agree that a visual studio-like ide is untirely uneccsary for a
good developer. It is more heavily needed by beginners than experts.
There is no reason, either, that a beginner should need this either. It
may take you longer to get productive without an automate-everything ide
but you'll end up a far better developer for it.

Python is not slow.

Asad Quraishi
Skye Object Systems Inc.


Chen Fu wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I like zope for its pure OO framework. is it the only
>work among the CMSs take this design? If it is true,
>why not any other clone in java, c# or cpp? 
>
>I agree Python is a good language, but it faces many
>challenges also like relative slow speed, short of
>programmer(compare with java cpp) and short of elite
>programming environment (like MS visual studio).
>
>Some articles explain why the zope can't port from
>CPython to JPython. But how about a rebuild in pure
>java/cpp/c#? is it possible and deserved?
>
>This is only an crude idea for I have just several
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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Fri Mar 14 14:58:03 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:58:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource
In-Reply-To: <BA9754CF.ABE2%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>
References: <BA9754CF.ABE2%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047657483@[192.168.0.2]>


--On Freitag, 14. M=E4rz 2003 9:43 Uhr -0500 Chris Muldrow=20
<cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com> wrote:

> Right now we've got our main Catalog storing only information about a
> Zclass, and it's only got one ZCTextindex--on PrincipiaSearchSource. I'd
> like people to be able to search the title AND the PrincipiaSearchSource
> at the same time--in other words, have both indexed. Is there a way to
> index both in the same ZCTextIndex so I don't have to keep two text
> indexes and combine searches into both? I'm thinking of trying to index
> some sort of method inside the Zclass that combines the two, but I can't
> seem to figure out what that method should look like--how do I say
> "concatenate title and data into a single piece of data that can be
> indexed"?

I wrote a proposal to implement multi-attribute handling for
indexes for Zope 2.7. This proposal is implemented and will appear
with Zope 2.7. ZCTextIndex and TextIndexNG will support this
new feature. TextIndexNG already supports multiple  attributes
with Zope 2.6.

-aj



From scott.meilicke@intp.com  Fri Mar 14 15:44:29 2003
From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:44:29 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Load monitor
Message-ID: <05A1EDFF79040846976782B13F97ED3516ACF0@IWA-MERCURY>

Your log files should show you most networking stuff - you can calculate
req/sec based on the data, as well as bandwidth usage.  I would guess there
are good site analysis programs that already do this, but I can't say for
sure (analog, webalizer, etc.).  CPU would be tough per site, since zope
runs on just a few processes, none of them segregated by site, unless you
have separate zope instances per site - hardly efficient.  In any case, you
would have to get CPU from an OS based tool or a monitoring tool such as
Nagios.

Good luck.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaroslav Lukesh [mailto:lukesh@seznam.cz]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:08 AM
To: Zope mailing list
Subject: [Zope] Load monitor


Hi all,

I am very sorry for that question, I was browse products, but does not find
(maybe bad finding).

Does somebody know how to show online Zope load? (cpu, requests/sec etc)

Ideally, when it will be recognize domains in VHM.

Many thanks,

J. Lukesh

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From mgeddert@onlinehome.de  Fri Mar 14 15:43:00 2003
From: mgeddert@onlinehome.de (Michael Geddert)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 16:43:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: MailBoxer question
In-Reply-To: <b4sd08$13h$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <20030313200904.39856.qmail@web14914.mail.yahoo.com>
 <b4sd08$13h$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1047656581.1885.4.camel@bomber>

Hi,

I've been using MailBoxer for Mailinglists and Newsletters
alike. So far, everybody appears to be satisfied with it,
especially the searchable archive seems to be a big plus.
Integration with Amavis/other Virus-scanning products was seamless.

hth,

Michael



Am Fre, 2003-03-14 um 12.12 schrieb Josef Meile:
> > Does anyone use
> > MailBoxer(www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/MailBoxer)
> > for their mailing list?
> I know the Mail lists of the german Zope users group (DZUG )
> use it whithout any problem in combination with AMaViS to scan
> the messages for viruses.
> 
> Regards,
> Josef
> 
> 
> 
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From dan@control.com  Fri Mar 14 16:10:25 2003
From: dan@control.com (Dan L. Pierson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:10:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the
 following ...
In-Reply-To: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <304770000.1047658225@daystar.control.com>

I just went with exUserFolder for a similar project.  The alternative would 
be Chris Withers'
SimpleUserFolder, but I wanted caching support.

--On Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:03:33 PM -0600 Edward Muller 
<edwardam@interlix.com> wrote:

> I am storing user information in a postgresql database. I need a login
> form and an easy to customize 'user creation' form/script.
>
> What is the best user folder replacement to achieve the above?
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From nhavar@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 16:19:15 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:19:15 +0000
Subject: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url or portal_url
Message-ID: <F156EbjkyqU7a0xtAEH0003a963@hotmail.com>

I have a webserver running on host:8200 which serves framed content. On 
occassion it loads one frame with content from my ZOPE server running on 
host:8300. When the ZOPE frame loads the links and icons within it are 
broken because they show up as http://host:8200/item instead of 
http://host:8300/item. If I refresh the URLS get corrected.

How do I get the correct URL the first time within a frameset?

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From JBeard@porternovelli.com  Fri Mar 14 16:31:33 2003
From: JBeard@porternovelli.com (JBeard@porternovelli.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:31:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg for zope/cms projects??
Message-ID: <OF59E6AF80.69DDE952-ON85256CE9.0057DA2E@porternovelli.com>

I was just curious what people are using in terms of through the web
wysiwyg's for zope cms projects?
Likes/dislikes/hurdles etc...

I have a few requirements i'm trying to meet > creation of html tables,
upload images, font styles should all be managed via my wsyiwyg.








From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl  Fri Mar 14 16:49:39 2003
From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:49:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg for zope/cms projects??
Message-ID: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CB7@exchange.spc.nl>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: JBeard@porternovelli.com [mailto:JBeard@porternovelli.com]
> Sent: vrijdag 14 maart 2003 17:32
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg for zope/cms projects??
>=20
>=20
> I was just curious what people are using in terms of through the web
> wysiwyg's for zope cms projects?
> Likes/dislikes/hurdles etc...

Dislike > IE only (Version ?? 5.0 and up)


From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Fri Mar 14 17:10:41 2003
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:10:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2654 - 34 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20030314170010.14775.42169.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314180833.00aa3728@mail.club-internet.fr>

At 12:00 14/03/2003 -0500, zope-request@zope.org wrote:
>From: Lennart Regebro <lennart@regebro.nu>
>The best overview of CMS products I have found are unfortunately only in
>german: www.contentmanagement.de
>
>This one is pretty comprehensive too:
>http://www.hartman-communicatie.nl/Content/tools.htm

Thx for the links and to everyone who answered. The problem with lists like 
this, is that they rarely come from developers, and developers who have a 
wide knowledge of the field the product belongs to : as a result, we very 
rarely have a hands-on account of the pros and cons of such and such tool.

Personally, I had to go through the ordeal of maintaining a site with PHP 
to finally understand the reason why Zope is a better tool.

Fred.



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 17:19:06 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:19:06 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Not found unless logged in
Message-ID: <F18JUsIriJQg6dH7wpN0003ffc7@hotmail.com>

I have a document in the CMF that has been published but I cannot use search 
to find it unless I am logged in. Anonymous users should be able to see that 
file. How do I correct this?

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From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 18:01:43 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:01:43 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
Message-ID: <3E721907.6050504@comnett.net>

A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since 
then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.

I saw something earlier about the -D switch so I made sure that it was 
on in the 'start' script:

exec /usr/local/Zope/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"

It wasn't a big deal until just recently when I started developing 
again. Things are bombing as they always do, but I'm having to guess at 
what's causing it.

TIA

Rick




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Fri Mar 14 18:06:01 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:06:01 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2654 - 34 msgs
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314180833.00aa3728@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <20030314170010.14775.42169.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314095651.022f3dd8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 09:10 AM 3/14/2003, Frederic Faure wrote:
>The problem with lists like this, is that they rarely come from 
>developers, and developers who have a wide knowledge of the field the 
>product belongs to : as a result, we very rarely have a hands-on account 
>of the pros and cons of such and such tool.

The problem here (if there *is* one) is that there is such a wide range of 
products and add-ons available, there's no way to find any group of people 
who are experts at everything.

Many add-ons have their own lists.  If you're interested in digging deeper 
into CMS, there are lists available for CMF, Plone, and probably other 
tools as well.

http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf
http://plone.org/development/lists

HTH,

Dylan



From jj@nttmcl.com  Fri Mar 14 18:21:41 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:21:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james> <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20030314182141.GA74677@alicia.nttmcl.com>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:01:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> Agreed. doesn't this work:
> keys = TransientObjectContainerInstance.keys()
> for key in keys:
> 	print key

No, unfortunately, it doesn't.  Despite the fact that I'm logged in as a 
manager, it asks me for my username and password.  See below.

> The above should print the TransientObjects in the
> TransientObjectContainerInstance....
> 
> Again ... I've never read the code ... but that's the way session
> works...

I think the problem is in Zope/lib/python/Products/Transcience.  Whereas 
the get method is declared as:

	security.declareProtected(ACCESS_TRANSIENTS_PERM, 'get')
	def get(self, k, default=_marker):

the keys method is declared as:

	def keys(self):

Notice that there is no security declaration.  I think that this combined with
the line:

	security.setDefaultAccess('deny')

is locking me out.

Of course, this is my first time looking at the Zope code, so I could be wrong.
In any case, it's not working. :(

Thanks,
-jj

> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:42, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
> > keys method.  I presume you can use this.
> > 
> > - C
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > > > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > > > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> > > 
> > > Yes.
> > > 
> > > > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > > > code.
> > > 
> > > All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> > > get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> > > (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> > > TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, 
> > > -jj
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > Chris, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > -jj
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > -jj
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
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From Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca  Fri Mar 14 18:42:00 2003
From: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca (Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:42:00 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
Message-ID: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306DA@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>

Rick,

Heh, I'm expriencing the same problem ... No more tracebacks, even in debug
mode.

I looked at the CHANGES.txt file, and didn't see anything mentionned about
any changes in that behavior ...

I've adjusted my standard_error_message for now to explicitely print the
traceback, but now it appears in plain sight, not hidden in the page code :(

I'm only developping/migrating right now, but this is one question I was
going to ask later on :)

J.F.

-----Original Message-----
From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:02 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages


A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since 
then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.

I saw something earlier about the -D switch so I made sure that it was 
on in the 'start' script:

exec /usr/local/Zope/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"

It wasn't a big deal until just recently when I started developing 
again. Things are bombing as they always do, but I'm having to guess at 
what's causing it.

TIA

Rick



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From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 18:44:27 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:44:27 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
References: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306DA@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <3E72230B.6000505@comnett.net>

How did you get the traceback? That's all I need. I could even have it 
print it in HTML comments so that it's only in the source.

Thanks,

Rick


Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca wrote:

>Rick,
>
>Heh, I'm expriencing the same problem ... No more tracebacks, even in debug
>mode.
>
>I looked at the CHANGES.txt file, and didn't see anything mentionned about
>any changes in that behavior ...
>
>I've adjusted my standard_error_message for now to explicitely print the
>traceback, but now it appears in plain sight, not hidden in the page code :(
>
>I'm only developping/migrating right now, but this is one question I was
>going to ask later on :)
>
>J.F.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:02 PM
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
>
>
>A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since 
>then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
>happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
>Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.
>
>I saw something earlier about the -D switch so I made sure that it was 
>on in the 'start' script:
>
>exec /usr/local/Zope/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"
>
>It wasn't a big deal until just recently when I started developing 
>again. Things are bombing as they always do, but I'm having to guess at 
>what's causing it.
>
>TIA
>
>Rick
>
>
>
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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Fri Mar 14 18:46:03 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:46:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
In-Reply-To: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306DA@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
References: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306DA@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.
 ca>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047671163@[192.168.0.2]>

All errors and tracebacks are stored by default in /error_log (ZMI)=20
starting
with Zope 2.6.

-aj

--On Freitag, 14. M=E4rz 2003 13:42 Uhr -0500=20
Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Heh, I'm expriencing the same problem ... No more tracebacks, even in
> debug mode.
>
> I looked at the CHANGES.txt file, and didn't see anything mentionned =
about
> any changes in that behavior ...
>
> I've adjusted my standard_error_message for now to explicitely print the
> traceback, but now it appears in plain sight, not hidden in the page code
> :(
>
> I'm only developping/migrating right now, but this is one question I was
> going to ask later on :)
>
> J.F.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:02 PM
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
>
>
> A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since
> then they stopped printing the entire error text when something
> happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little
> Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.
>
> I saw something earlier about the -D switch so I made sure that it was
> on in the 'start' script:
>
> exec /usr/local/Zope/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"
>
> It wasn't a big deal until just recently when I started developing
> again. Things are bombing as they always do, but I'm having to guess at
> what's causing it.
>
> TIA
>
> Rick
>
>
>
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From Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca  Fri Mar 14 18:49:42 2003
From: Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca (Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:49:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
Message-ID: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306DB@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>

Rick,

Just add something like:

<dtml-var error_tb>

To your standard_error_message, and the traceback will appear!

Cheers,
J.F.

-----Original Message-----
From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:44 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Error Messages


How did you get the traceback? That's all I need. I could even have it 
print it in HTML comments so that it's only in the source.

Thanks,

Rick


Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca wrote:

>Rick,
>
>Heh, I'm expriencing the same problem ... No more tracebacks, even in debug
>mode.
>
>I looked at the CHANGES.txt file, and didn't see anything mentionned about
>any changes in that behavior ...
>
>I've adjusted my standard_error_message for now to explicitely print the
>traceback, but now it appears in plain sight, not hidden in the page code
:(
>
>I'm only developping/migrating right now, but this is one question I was
>going to ask later on :)
>
>J.F.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:02 PM
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
>
>
>A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since 
>then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
>happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
>Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.
>
>I saw something earlier about the -D switch so I made sure that it was 
>on in the 'start' script:
>
>exec /usr/local/Zope/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"
>
>It wasn't a big deal until just recently when I started developing 
>again. Things are bombing as they always do, but I'm having to guess at 
>what's causing it.
>
>TIA
>
>Rick
>
>
>
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Fri Mar 14 18:50:46 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:50:46 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
In-Reply-To: <3E721907.6050504@comnett.net>
References: <3E721907.6050504@comnett.net>
Message-ID: <3E722486.5020705@jcameroncooper.com>

> A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever 
> since then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
> happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
> Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.

In the page you mean? How about the 'error_log' in the root? It should 
be collecting your errors.

You can bring back the tracebacks in the page it you really want to, 
presuming this is your problem.

          --jcc



From chrism@zope.com  Fri Mar 14 18:53:51 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 13:53:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030314182141.GA74677@alicia.nttmcl.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james>
 <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030314182141.GA74677@alicia.nttmcl.com>
Message-ID: <1047668031.1419.30.camel@james>

That's right.  The method has no security assertions so it's 'private'
to "through the web" code like Python Scripts and ZPT.  I'd suggest
reading the Zope Developer's Guide Security chapter to get an
understanding of how to change this.

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:21, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:01:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > Agreed. doesn't this work:
> > keys = TransientObjectContainerInstance.keys()
> > for key in keys:
> > 	print key
> 
> No, unfortunately, it doesn't.  Despite the fact that I'm logged in as a 
> manager, it asks me for my username and password.  See below.
> 
> > The above should print the TransientObjects in the
> > TransientObjectContainerInstance....
> > 
> > Again ... I've never read the code ... but that's the way session
> > works...
> 
> I think the problem is in Zope/lib/python/Products/Transcience.  Whereas 
> the get method is declared as:
> 
> 	security.declareProtected(ACCESS_TRANSIENTS_PERM, 'get')
> 	def get(self, k, default=_marker):
> 
> the keys method is declared as:
> 
> 	def keys(self):
> 
> Notice that there is no security declaration.  I think that this combined with
> the line:
> 
> 	security.setDefaultAccess('deny')
> 
> is locking me out.
> 
> Of course, this is my first time looking at the Zope code, so I could be wrong.
> In any case, it's not working. :(
> 
> Thanks,
> -jj
> 
> > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:42, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
> > > keys method.  I presume you can use this.
> > > 
> > > - C
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > > > > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > > > > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> > > > 
> > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > > > > code.
> > > > 
> > > > All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> > > > get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> > > > TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, 
> > > > -jj
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > Chris, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > > > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > > > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > > > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > -jj
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > -- 
> > Edward Muller
> > 
> > Interlix - President
> > 
> > Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> > Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> > 
> > Phone: 417-862-0573
> >  Cell: 417-844-2435
> >   Fax: 417-862-0572
> > 
> > http://www.interlix.com
> 
> -- 
> Hacker is to software engineer as 
> Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> 
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Fri Mar 14 18:54:16 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:54:16 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
In-Reply-To: <3E721907.6050504@comnett.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314105016.022f50f8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 10:01 AM 3/14/2003, D. Rick Anderson wrote:
>A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since 
>then they stopped printing the entire error text when something happened. 
>All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
>Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.

Take a look at the new object in your root folder called error_log.  It's 
new to 2.6 and quite cool.

HTH,

Dylan



From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 19:04:34 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:04:34 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314105016.022f50f8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <3E7227C2.2010303@comnett.net>

Right on! I think I had seen that there and never really thought about 
what it was for!

Thanks!

Rick


Dylan Reinhardt wrote:

> At 10:01 AM 3/14/2003, D. Rick Anderson wrote:
>
>> A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever 
>> since then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
>> happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
>> Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.
>
>
> Take a look at the new object in your root folder called error_log.  
> It's new to 2.6 and quite cool.
>
> HTH,
>
> Dylan
>
>




From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 19:05:07 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:05:07 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
References: <7CDD7B94357FD5119E800002A537C46E2306DB@s5-ccr-r1.ccrs.nrcan.gc.ca>
Message-ID: <3E7227E3.3080809@comnett.net>

Thanks! That's exactly what I needed!

Rick


Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca wrote:

>Rick,
>
>Just add something like:
>
><dtml-var error_tb>
>
>To your standard_error_message, and the traceback will appear!
>
>Cheers,
>J.F.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:44 PM
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Error Messages
>
>
>How did you get the traceback? That's all I need. I could even have it 
>print it in HTML comments so that it's only in the source.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rick
>
>
>Jean-Francois.Doyon@CCRS.NRCan.gc.ca wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Rick,
>>
>>Heh, I'm expriencing the same problem ... No more tracebacks, even in debug
>>mode.
>>
>>I looked at the CHANGES.txt file, and didn't see anything mentionned about
>>any changes in that behavior ...
>>
>>I've adjusted my standard_error_message for now to explicitely print the
>>traceback, but now it appears in plain sight, not hidden in the page code
>>    
>>
>:(
>  
>
>>I'm only developping/migrating right now, but this is one question I was
>>going to ask later on :)
>>
>>J.F.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: D. Rick Anderson [mailto:ruger@comnett.net]
>>Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:02 PM
>>To: zope@zope.org
>>Subject: [Zope] Error Messages
>>
>>
>>A little while ago I upgraded our Zope servers to 2.6.0, and ever since 
>>then they stopped printing the entire error text when something 
>>happened. All I get now is the Error Type, Error Value and the little 
>>Troubleshooting Suggestions, but I have no idea what caused the error.
>>
>>I saw something earlier about the -D switch so I made sure that it was 
>>on in the 'start' script:
>>
>>exec /usr/local/Zope/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D "$@"
>>
>>It wasn't a big deal until just recently when I started developing 
>>again. Things are bombing as they always do, but I'm having to guess at 
>>what's causing it.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>>(Related lists - 
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>>
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>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>
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From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 19:21:26 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:21:26 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
Message-ID: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net>

Can you store a dictionary in a cookie? I've been trying and it keeps 
barfing on me. If I set the dictionary in the REQUEST, it works just 
fine, but if I set it as a cookie, and then try to reference it with 
<dtml-var "cookie['key']"> if bombs with "sequence index must be an 
integer". Dost it think it's a list?

TIA

Rick



From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Fri Mar 14 19:22:58 2003
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:22:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2654 - 34 msgs
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314095651.022f3dd8@pop3.spa.norton.antiviru
 s>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314180833.00aa3728@mail.club-internet.fr>
 <20030314170010.14775.42169.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030314202044.00a7a8d0@mail.club-internet.fr>

At 10:06 14/03/2003 -0800, Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>  wrote:
>The problem here (if there *is* one) is that there is such a wide range of 
>products and add-ons available, there's no way to find any group of people 
>who are experts at everything.

Right, but at least, it would help to have an article that would explain to 
eg. PHP or Perl users what the point is using a framework, and especially 
something Zope. Personnaly, just showing me that I won't have to stick an 
index.html (index.php) in each and every directory would probably be enough 
to convince me :-)

>Many add-ons have their own lists.  If you're interested in digging deeper 
>into CMS, there are lists available for CMF, Plone, and probably other 
>tools as well.
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-cmf
>http://plone.org/development/lists

Thx for the links. I'm on my way.

Fred.



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Fri Mar 14 19:23:05 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:23:05 -0600
Subject: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url
 or portal_url
In-Reply-To: <F156EbjkyqU7a0xtAEH0003a963@hotmail.com>
References: <F156EbjkyqU7a0xtAEH0003a963@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E722C19.9050707@jcameroncooper.com>

> I have a webserver running on host:8200 which serves framed content. 
> On occassion it loads one frame with content from my ZOPE server 
> running on host:8300. When the ZOPE frame loads the links and icons 
> within it are broken because they show up as http://host:8200/item 
> instead of http://host:8300/item. If I refresh the URLS get corrected.
>
> How do I get the correct URL the first time within a frameset?

You're loading from the other server intentionally, right? Well, I can't 
really say from experience, as I try to stay well away from frames, but 
perhaps you need to explicitly put the basepath in the documents from 
the foreign server:

<base href="http://host:8300/" />

You should check to see if Zope has already put it there, though.

Otherwise, maybe you need to put absolute urls in your images.

       --jcc



From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Fri Mar 14 19:29:32 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:29:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net>
References: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net>
Message-ID: <3944805577.20030314202932@elvix.com>

On  Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:21:26 -0800 GMT (..20:21 where i live(GMT+1) )
D. Rick Anderson asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
DRA> Can you store a dictionary in a cookie? I've been trying and it keep=
s=20
DRA> barfing on me. If I set the dictionary in the REQUEST, it works just=
=20
DRA> fine, but if I set it as a cookie, and then try to reference it with=
=20
DRA> <dtml-var "cookie['key']"> if bombs with "sequence index must be an=20
DRA> integer". Dost it think it's a list?

it is a string when you get it back.. cookies are always strings

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 19:30:35 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:30:35 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
References: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net> <3944805577.20030314202932@elvix.com>
Message-ID: <3E722DDB.8060305@comnett.net>

Thanks for the reply!

ok ... then I guess I need to know how to convert it from a string to a 
dictionary. Is that possible? Is there something like _.dict(cookie) 
that will work?

Thanks again,

Rick


Geir Bækholt wrote:

>On  Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:21:26 -0800 GMT (..20:21 where i live(GMT+1) )
>D. Rick Anderson asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
>  
>DRA> Can you store a dictionary in a cookie? I've been trying and it keeps 
>DRA> barfing on me. If I set the dictionary in the REQUEST, it works just 
>DRA> fine, but if I set it as a cookie, and then try to reference it with 
>DRA> <dtml-var "cookie['key']"> if bombs with "sequence index must be an 
>DRA> integer". Dost it think it's a list?
>
>it is a string when you get it back.. cookies are always strings
>
>--
>Geir Bækholt
>
>
>  
>




From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Fri Mar 14 20:05:25 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:05:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <3E722DDB.8060305@comnett.net>
References: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net>
 <3944805577.20030314202932@elvix.com> <3E722DDB.8060305@comnett.net>
Message-ID: <6046958232.20030314210525@elvix.com>

On  Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:30:35 -0800 GMT (..20:30 where i live(GMT+1) )
D. Rick Anderson asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
DRA> Thanks for the reply!

DRA> ok ... then I guess I need to know how to convert it from a string t=
o a=20
DRA> dictionary. Is that possible? Is there something like _.dict(cookie)=
=20
DRA> that will work?

not sure. i would guess you would have to make your own format/parser
according to your needs. Tough if you are to handle all cases on a
general basis, simple if you know what the dicts will be like. :)

- also : there is a limit (255 ?? ) to how long cookie strings can be , s=
o
cookies are really not a very good tool for complex data storage

You could prehaps get around the problem by using sessions instead ?


--
Geir B=E6kholt



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 20:04:59 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:04:59 +0000
Subject: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url or portal_url
Message-ID: <F517oHMJA13YY7hZpgs0003683b@hotmail.com>

Yes we have done this purposefully. The main app is served from Silverstream 
java appserver (soon to be transitioned to Websphere :) ). All of our 
reference content is in ZOPE. It's an internal web application so users are 
limited in bookmarking (security/HIPAA issues) and the other reasons that 
frames don't make sense for the general web populace don't factor in for us.

We have multiple instances of ZOPE running so unfortunately I can't hard 
code any urls. I have to rely on the CMF and ZOPE to return the correct path 
for images and items via the absolute_url property or whatever property will 
give the correct url.


>From: J Cameron Cooper <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com>
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url 
>or portal_url
>Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:23:05 -0600
>
>>I have a webserver running on host:8200 which serves framed content. On 
>>occassion it loads one frame with content from my ZOPE server running on 
>>host:8300. When the ZOPE frame loads the links and icons within it are 
>>broken because they show up as http://host:8200/item instead of 
>>http://host:8300/item. If I refresh the URLS get corrected.
>>
>>How do I get the correct URL the first time within a frameset?
>
>You're loading from the other server intentionally, right? Well, I can't 
>really say from experience, as I try to stay well away from frames, but 
>perhaps you need to explicitly put the basepath in the documents from the 
>foreign server:
>
><base href="http://host:8300/" />
>
>You should check to see if Zope has already put it there, though.
>
>Otherwise, maybe you need to put absolute urls in your images.
>
>       --jcc
>
>
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Fri Mar 14 20:19:30 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:19:30 -0600
Subject: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url
 or portal_url
In-Reply-To: <F517oHMJA13YY7hZpgs0003683b@hotmail.com>
References: <F517oHMJA13YY7hZpgs0003683b@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E723952.6020901@jcameroncooper.com>

> Yes we have done this purposefully.

I was just making sure that you weren't having a problem where it was 
mysteriously switching ports (which would be really bizarre.)

> The main app is served from Silverstream java appserver (soon to be 
> transitioned to Websphere :) ). All of our reference content is in 
> ZOPE. It's an internal web application so users are limited in 
> bookmarking (security/HIPAA issues) and the other reasons that frames 
> don't make sense for the general web populace don't factor in for us. 

You got me. I won't try to talk you out of frames, then.

> We have multiple instances of ZOPE running so unfortunately I can't 
> hard code any urls. I have to rely on the CMF and ZOPE to return the 
> correct path for images and items via the absolute_url property or 
> whatever property will give the correct url.

That's what I meant, actually. What method are you using to construct 
your URLs, how does it render, and where does it actually point? 
(Mozilla/Netscape's View Info should be helpful in this.)

I suspect that a proper base tag will let you use relative URLs 
correctly, unless your browser/browsers in general don't work this way. 
(I really can't speak as to how that works in frames.) In which case, 
you'll have to generate port-containing URLs from Zope.

          --jcc



From ruger@comnett.net  Fri Mar 14 20:22:47 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 12:22:47 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <6046958232.20030314210525@elvix.com>
References: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net>
 <3944805577.20030314202932@elvix.com> <3E722DDB.8060305@comnett.net>
 <6046958232.20030314210525@elvix.com>
Message-ID: <1047673368.10943.1.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

I've never used Sessions before. Is there a good howto?

Thanks,

Rick



On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 12:05, Geir B=C3=A6kholt wrote:
> On  Fri, 14 Mar 2003 11:30:35 -0800 GMT (..20:30 where i live(GMT+1) )
> D. Rick Anderson asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
>  =20
> DRA> Thanks for the reply!
>=20
> DRA> ok ... then I guess I need to know how to convert it from a string t=
o a=20
> DRA> dictionary. Is that possible? Is there something like _.dict(cookie)=
=20
> DRA> that will work?
>=20
> not sure. i would guess you would have to make your own format/parser
> according to your needs. Tough if you are to handle all cases on a
> general basis, simple if you know what the dicts will be like. :)
>=20
> - also : there is a limit (255 ?? ) to how long cookie strings can be , s=
o
> cookies are really not a very good tool for complex data storage
>=20
> You could prehaps get around the problem by using sessions instead ?
>=20
>=20
> --
> Geir B=C3=A6kholt
>=20




From jj@nttmcl.com  Fri Mar 14 20:23:00 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 12:23:00 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <1047668031.1419.30.camel@james>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james> <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20030314182141.GA74677@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047668031.1419.30.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030314202300.GA75479@alicia.nttmcl.com>

Your advice is very helpful, although the documentation is quite complex.  
The documentation inspired me to just create an external method that accepts
a TransientObjectContainer and returns the result of its keys method.  How 
badly does this screw me?  I assume any keys method of any object is no longer
safe.  

*sigh*
-jj

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:53:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> That's right.  The method has no security assertions so it's 'private'
> to "through the web" code like Python Scripts and ZPT.  I'd suggest
> reading the Zope Developer's Guide Security chapter to get an
> understanding of how to change this.
> 
> On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:21, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:01:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > Agreed. doesn't this work:
> > > keys = TransientObjectContainerInstance.keys()
> > > for key in keys:
> > > 	print key
> > 
> > No, unfortunately, it doesn't.  Despite the fact that I'm logged in as a 
> > manager, it asks me for my username and password.  See below.
> > 
> > > The above should print the TransientObjects in the
> > > TransientObjectContainerInstance....
> > > 
> > > Again ... I've never read the code ... but that's the way session
> > > works...
> > 
> > I think the problem is in Zope/lib/python/Products/Transcience.  Whereas 
> > the get method is declared as:
> > 
> > 	security.declareProtected(ACCESS_TRANSIENTS_PERM, 'get')
> > 	def get(self, k, default=_marker):
> > 
> > the keys method is declared as:
> > 
> > 	def keys(self):
> > 
> > Notice that there is no security declaration.  I think that this combined with
> > the line:
> > 
> > 	security.setDefaultAccess('deny')
> > 
> > is locking me out.
> > 
> > Of course, this is my first time looking at the Zope code, so I could be wrong.
> > In any case, it's not working. :(
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > -jj
> > 
> > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:42, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
> > > > keys method.  I presume you can use this.
> > > > 
> > > > - C
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > > > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > > > > > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > > > > > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > > > > > code.
> > > > > 
> > > > > All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> > > > > get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> > > > > TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > -jj
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > Chris, 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > > > > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > > > > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > > > > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > > > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > > > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > > > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > > -- 
> > > Edward Muller
> > > 
> > > Interlix - President
> > > 
> > > Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> > > Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> > > 
> > > Phone: 417-862-0573
> > >  Cell: 417-844-2435
> > >   Fax: 417-862-0572
> > > 
> > > http://www.interlix.com
> > 
> > -- 
> > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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> 

-- 
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Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From ed@leafe.com  Fri Mar 14 20:38:25 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:38:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <3E722DDB.8060305@comnett.net>
Message-ID: <E7F27AE8-565C-11D7-83D9-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 02:30  PM, D. Rick Anderson wrote:

> ok ... then I guess I need to know how to convert it from a string to 
> a dictionary. Is that possible? Is there something like _.dict(cookie) 
> that will work?

	I just use the pickle module. You'll have to implement it as an 
External Method, but it works fine for me.

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
  Ed Leafe
  http://leafe.com/
  http://opentech.leafe.com



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 20:44:34 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:44:34 +0000
Subject: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url or portal_url
Message-ID: <F66qgXRoYgDCqW56Fjx0003f98a@hotmail.com>

I found no reference to base href in the document. I don't set it and I 
don't see that ZOPE/CMF sets it either.

here's the ZPT code that's generating the urls for the items

<ul>
   <li tal:repeat="item items">
    <a href="item_url" tal:attributes="href item/absolute_url"><img
      align="middle" border="0"
      tal:attributes="src   string:${item/portal_url}/${item/getIcon};
                      alt   string:${item/Type};
                      title string:${item/Type}"></a>
    <a href="item_url" tal:attributes="href item/absolute_url;
                                       title item/Description"
       tal:content="item/Title"> Title </a>
   </li>
  </ul>

both absolute_url and portal_url when called within the frameset appear to 
get a reference to the parent frameset's host instead of the document's 
host. Are there other mechanisms in place to get the host name:port for a 
document?


>From: J Cameron Cooper <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com>
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url 
>or portal_url
>Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:19:30 -0600
>
>>Yes we have done this purposefully.
>
>I was just making sure that you weren't having a problem where it was 
>mysteriously switching ports (which would be really bizarre.)
>
>>The main app is served from Silverstream java appserver (soon to be 
>>transitioned to Websphere :) ). All of our reference content is in ZOPE. 
>>It's an internal web application so users are limited in bookmarking 
>>(security/HIPAA issues) and the other reasons that frames don't make sense 
>>for the general web populace don't factor in for us.
>
>You got me. I won't try to talk you out of frames, then.
>
>>We have multiple instances of ZOPE running so unfortunately I can't hard 
>>code any urls. I have to rely on the CMF and ZOPE to return the correct 
>>path for images and items via the absolute_url property or whatever 
>>property will give the correct url.
>
>That's what I meant, actually. What method are you using to construct your 
>URLs, how does it render, and where does it actually point? 
>(Mozilla/Netscape's View Info should be helpful in this.)
>
>I suspect that a proper base tag will let you use relative URLs correctly, 
>unless your browser/browsers in general don't work this way. (I really 
>can't speak as to how that works in frames.) In which case, you'll have to 
>generate port-containing URLs from Zope.
>
>          --jcc
>
>
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From jmeile@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 14 21:15:15 2003
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:15:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Cookie Dictionary
Message-ID: <DAV61Y61LEdyt3cew8k0000005f@hotmail.com>

Hi Rick,

> Can you store a dictionary in a cookie? I've been trying and it keeps
> barfing on me. If I set the dictionary in the REQUEST, it works just
> fine, but if I set it as a cookie, and then try to reference it with
> <dtml-var "cookie['key']"> if bombs with "sequence index must be an
> integer". Dost it think it's a list?

Do you need a dictionary, or  can a list be useful too? On this case,
you could send a coma delimited string and then use the split method
to convert it to a list.

You could also use more delimiters for example:
a1,b1;a2,b2;...;an,bn

and then split the string by the semi-colons. Then go through each element
and split by the commas; However, this solution is not efficient nor
elegant,
but it could be an alternative.

Again, as Geir said, you are limmited to 255 characters (not sure about this
number) when working with cookies. You can also get rid of it by using this
piece of code:
http://www.zope.org/Members/gaaros/localcookies

Regards,
Josef


From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Fri Mar 14 21:13:17 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:13:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Cookie Dictionary
In-Reply-To: <1047673368.10943.1.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
References: <3E722BB6.9020103@comnett.net>
 <3944805577.20030314202932@elvix.com> <3E722DDB.8060305@comnett.net>
 <6046958232.20030314210525@elvix.com>
 <1047673368.10943.1.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <13251029887.20030314221317@elvix.com>

On  14 Mar 2003 12:22:47 -0800 GMT (..21:22 where i live(GMT+1) )
D. Rick Anderson asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
DRA> I've never used Sessions before. Is there a good howto?

the Zope book (2.6 ed.) is your friend :)
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/Sessions.stx


--
Geir B=E6kholt



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Fri Mar 14 21:40:32 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:40:32 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2654 - 34 msgs
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030314202044.00a7a8d0@mail.club-internet.fr>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314095651.022f3dd8@pop3.spa.norton.antiviru s>
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At 11:22 AM 3/14/2003, Frederic Faure wrote:
>At 10:06 14/03/2003 -0800, Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com>  wrote:
>>The problem here (if there *is* one) is that there is such a wide range 
>>of products and add-ons available, there's no way to find any group of 
>>people who are experts at everything.
>
>Right, but at least, it would help to have an article that would explain 
>to eg. PHP or Perl users what the point is using a framework, and 
>especially something Zope. Personnaly, just showing me that I won't have 
>to stick an index.html (index.php) in each and every directory would 
>probably be enough to convince me :-)

Sounds like a great idea... when you think you've gathered enough arguments 
to share, you should write it up and submit it to www.zope.org.

Dylan



From ed@greengraphics.net  Sat Mar 15 05:44:33 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 21:44:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] xml-rpc illegal characters
In-Reply-To: <3E6F9154.2000904@dimensional.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303142142130.10639-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>


Hi Mark

Thanks for the reply.

So you are using the illegal characters in your strings, and want to
preserve them?

I really don't need to, most of my data is just users being cute.

So far I've found that these characters are off limits:

"
'
<
>
&


Anyone found any others?

-e-

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Mark Gibson wrote:

> I've been using xmlrpclib.Binary to encode the strings before I send them.
>
> Mark
> Ed Colmar wrote:
> > I've got a xml-rpc error that has creeped in, and I'm curious what the
> > standard procedure is for making sure this does not happen.  All of these
> > xml-rpc fields are user input areas, and are pretty much not protected.
> > Users can enter any charaters they want...  So far it has been working
> > well, but now I've got this:
> >
> > Syntax error at line 4324: illegal character in content
> >
> > To be expected I guess...
> >
> > So, my question is, what are people using for stripping out these
> > characters before sending the data over xml-rpc.  Or, put another way,
> > what characters are permitted?  Should I just strip out everything that is
> > not alphanumeric?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -e-
> >
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Fri Mar 14 21:42:27 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:42:27 -0600
Subject: [Zope] anyone? Help getting the correct URL from absolute_url
 or portal_url
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References: <F66qgXRoYgDCqW56Fjx0003f98a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E724CC3.2000903@jcameroncooper.com>

> I found no reference to base href in the document. I don't set it and 
> I don't see that ZOPE/CMF sets it either. 

Zope should insert it if it isn't there and the page is recognized as 
HTML. Or al least, so says the source. Perhaps you should try to set it. 
I think REQUEST.URL1 or absolute_url should work for a value. Check the 
HTML source of zope.org to see one.

> here's the ZPT code that's generating the urls for the items
>
> <ul>
>   <li tal:repeat="item items">
>    <a href="item_url" tal:attributes="href item/absolute_url"><img
>      align="middle" border="0"
>      tal:attributes="src   string:${item/portal_url}/${item/getIcon};
>                      alt   string:${item/Type};
>                      title string:${item/Type}"></a>
>    <a href="item_url" tal:attributes="href item/absolute_url;
>                                       title item/Description"
>       tal:content="item/Title"> Title </a>
>   </li>
>  </ul>
>
> both absolute_url and portal_url when called within the frameset 
> appear to get a reference to the parent frameset's host instead of the 
> document's host. Are there other mechanisms in place to get the host 
> name:port for a document?

I'm pretty sure those should work with ports. How does this render?

          --jcc



From chrism@zope.com  Fri Mar 14 21:44:41 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 14 Mar 2003 16:44:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <20030314202300.GA75479@alicia.nttmcl.com>
References: <20030306215346.GA23349@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com>
 <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james>
 <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <20030314182141.GA74677@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047668031.1419.30.camel@james>
 <20030314202300.GA75479@alicia.nttmcl.com>
Message-ID: <1047678283.1417.33.camel@james>

Why not use the external method to just obtain the result you want, eg:

def toc_keys(self):
    return self.temp_folder.session_data.keys()



On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 15:23, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> Your advice is very helpful, although the documentation is quite complex.  
> The documentation inspired me to just create an external method that accepts
> a TransientObjectContainer and returns the result of its keys method.  How 
> badly does this screw me?  I assume any keys method of any object is no longer
> safe.  
> 
> *sigh*
> -jj
> 
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:53:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > That's right.  The method has no security assertions so it's 'private'
> > to "through the web" code like Python Scripts and ZPT.  I'd suggest
> > reading the Zope Developer's Guide Security chapter to get an
> > understanding of how to change this.
> > 
> > On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:21, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:01:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > Agreed. doesn't this work:
> > > > keys = TransientObjectContainerInstance.keys()
> > > > for key in keys:
> > > > 	print key
> > > 
> > > No, unfortunately, it doesn't.  Despite the fact that I'm logged in as a 
> > > manager, it asks me for my username and password.  See below.
> > > 
> > > > The above should print the TransientObjects in the
> > > > TransientObjectContainerInstance....
> > > > 
> > > > Again ... I've never read the code ... but that's the way session
> > > > works...
> > > 
> > > I think the problem is in Zope/lib/python/Products/Transcience.  Whereas 
> > > the get method is declared as:
> > > 
> > > 	security.declareProtected(ACCESS_TRANSIENTS_PERM, 'get')
> > > 	def get(self, k, default=_marker):
> > > 
> > > the keys method is declared as:
> > > 
> > > 	def keys(self):
> > > 
> > > Notice that there is no security declaration.  I think that this combined with
> > > the line:
> > > 
> > > 	security.setDefaultAccess('deny')
> > > 
> > > is locking me out.
> > > 
> > > Of course, this is my first time looking at the Zope code, so I could be wrong.
> > > In any case, it's not working. :(
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > -jj
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:42, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
> > > > > keys method.  I presume you can use this.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - C
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > > > > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > > > > > > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > > > > > > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > > > > > > code.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> > > > > > get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> > > > > > TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > > Chris, 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > > > > > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > > > > > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > > > > > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > > > > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > > > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > > > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > > > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > > > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > > > > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > > > > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > > > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > > > -- 
> > > > Edward Muller
> > > > 
> > > > Interlix - President
> > > > 
> > > > Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> > > > Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> > > > 
> > > > Phone: 417-862-0573
> > > >  Cell: 417-844-2435
> > > >   Fax: 417-862-0572
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.interlix.com
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > (Related lists - 
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Hacker is to software engineer as 
> Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.




From jj@nttmcl.com  Fri Mar 14 21:53:29 2003
From: jj@nttmcl.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:53:29 -0800
Subject: [Zope] TransientObjectContainer.keys()
In-Reply-To: <1047678283.1417.33.camel@james>
References: <1046997652.1442.13.camel@james> <20030307010210.GA25773@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047018132.4949.76.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20030313023736.GA41516@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047523372.1418.4.camel@james> <1047528083.2887.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20030314182141.GA74677@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047668031.1419.30.camel@james> <20030314202300.GA75479@alicia.nttmcl.com> <1047678283.1417.33.camel@james>
Message-ID: <20030314215329.GA77963@alicia.nttmcl.com>

Duh :D  Thank you!  I am now quite happy!

Best Regards,
-jj

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 04:44:41PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> Why not use the external method to just obtain the result you want, eg:
> 
> def toc_keys(self):
>     return self.temp_folder.session_data.keys()
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 15:23, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > Your advice is very helpful, although the documentation is quite complex.  
> > The documentation inspired me to just create an external method that accepts
> > a TransientObjectContainer and returns the result of its keys method.  How 
> > badly does this screw me?  I assume any keys method of any object is no longer
> > safe.  
> > 
> > *sigh*
> > -jj
> > 
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 01:53:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > That's right.  The method has no security assertions so it's 'private'
> > > to "through the web" code like Python Scripts and ZPT.  I'd suggest
> > > reading the Zope Developer's Guide Security chapter to get an
> > > understanding of how to change this.
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 13:21, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:01:23PM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > > Agreed. doesn't this work:
> > > > > keys = TransientObjectContainerInstance.keys()
> > > > > for key in keys:
> > > > > 	print key
> > > > 
> > > > No, unfortunately, it doesn't.  Despite the fact that I'm logged in as a 
> > > > manager, it asks me for my username and password.  See below.
> > > > 
> > > > > The above should print the TransientObjects in the
> > > > > TransientObjectContainerInstance....
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again ... I've never read the code ... but that's the way session
> > > > > works...
> > > > 
> > > > I think the problem is in Zope/lib/python/Products/Transcience.  Whereas 
> > > > the get method is declared as:
> > > > 
> > > > 	security.declareProtected(ACCESS_TRANSIENTS_PERM, 'get')
> > > > 	def get(self, k, default=_marker):
> > > > 
> > > > the keys method is declared as:
> > > > 
> > > > 	def keys(self):
> > > > 
> > > > Notice that there is no security declaration.  I think that this combined with
> > > > the line:
> > > > 
> > > > 	security.setDefaultAccess('deny')
> > > > 
> > > > is locking me out.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, this is my first time looking at the Zope code, so I could be wrong.
> > > > In any case, it's not working. :(
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -jj
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 20:42, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > > Whether it's in the API or not, a TransientObjectContainer does have a
> > > > > > keys method.  I presume you can use this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - C
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 21:37, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:22:13AM -0600, Edward Muller wrote:
> > > > > > > > Isn't TransientObjectContainer a container for TransientObjects ?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You get the auto-delete from TransientObjectContainer. I assume (without
> > > > > > > > looking at the code) that the dict in TransientObjectContainer stores
> > > > > > > > some sort of references to TransientObjects ... which you then use ...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I could be very wrong ... since I'm not taking the time to read the
> > > > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All of your statements are correct.  However, I still know of no way to way to 
> > > > > > > get a complete list of TransientObject's from the TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > > (This should not be confused with getting a list of keys from *an individual*
> > > > > > > TransientObject).  Please set me straight if I'm wrong.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks, 
> > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 19:02, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Chris, 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply!  I'm using 2.6.  According to the API docs, 
> > > > > > > > > TransientObject has a keys method, but TransientObjectContainer doesn't.
> > > > > > > > > Looking at TransienceInterfaces.py confirms that TransientObject implements
> > > > > > > > > DictionaryLike whereas TransientObjectContainer doesn't.  Am I confused?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:40:51PM -0500, Chris McDonough wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer does have a keys method.  At least in Zope 2.6
> > > > > > > > > > and the Zope trunk it does...
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:53, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm using Zope as an application server for some weird, non-Web-related stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer really matches my needs for a particular problem
> > > > > > > > > > > (the dict-like interface and the auto-delete feature are quite useful), but 
> > > > > > > > > > > TransientObjectContainer has no keys() method.  I can see why this is the case
> > > > > > > > > > > considering sessions, but it's something that I absolutely need for my 
> > > > > > > > > > > application.  I assume my options are:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and submit a patch.
> > > > > > > > > > > o Hack Zope and don't submit a patch, because it won't be accepted.
> > > > > > > > > > > o Figure out some (really inconvenient) way to store a list of keys in the 
> > > > > > > > > > >   TransientObjectContainer.
> > > > > > > > > > > o Don't use TransientObjectContainer, just use normal Zope objects.  Use a cron
> > > > > > > > > > >   job to implement auto-delete.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I welcome your advice.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > -jj
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > > > > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Edward Muller
> > > > > 
> > > > > Interlix - President
> > > > > 
> > > > > Web Hosting - PC Service & Support
> > > > > Custom Programming - Network Service & Support
> > > > > 
> > > > > Phone: 417-862-0573
> > > > >  Cell: 417-844-2435
> > > > >   Fax: 417-862-0572
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.interlix.com
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > > > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > > (Related lists - 
> > > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Hacker is to software engineer as 
> > Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.
> 

-- 
Hacker is to software engineer as 
Climbing Mt. Everest is to building a Denny's there.


From jens@zope.com  Fri Mar 14 22:04:14 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:04:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] LDAPUserFolder and Micro$oft AD (ugh!)
In-Reply-To: <FBFF1B75591DDA4DA495C4D570EF008E0138D7C3@mangrove.abi.org>
Message-ID: <E4C3A13F-5668-11D7-A096-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

as always, a full traceback might shed more light on the issue...

jens


On Thursday, Mar 13, 2003, at 17:18 US/Eastern,=20
larry_prikockis@natureserve.org wrote:

> Greetings fellow Zope-addicts :-)
>
> First-- no need to remind me that LDAPUserFolder isn't in any way=20
> designed specifically to interoperate properly with Active=20
> Directory... I'm stuck with AD for the moment.
>
> I'm running Zope 2.6.1 on Linux (RH 7.1).=A0 I have the latest version=20=

> of LDAPUserFolder, python-ldap, open-ldap, etc. installed.=A0 For the=20=

> most part, everything works as advertised.=A0 However- there's a weird=20=

> glitch that crops up, apparently in the process of searching through=20=

> certain portions of my Active Directory structure (over which I have=20=

> no direct control- despite my fervent desire to reorganize it more=20
> sensibly)
>
> Basically, the structure looks like this:
>
> Dc=3Dmydir,dc=3Dorg
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ou=3Ddivision1
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ou=3Ddivision2
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ou=3Ddivision3
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 cn=3DConfiguration=A0 (lots of other junk under =
here ?!!)
>
> User entries can be located under any of the various division ou's, so=20=

> I need to use a base DN: dc=3Dmydir,dc=3Dorg and "subtree" for the =
scope=20
> setting.
>
> What I get, when searching for a user entry is the following:
>
> Error:
> {'desc': "Can't contact LDAP server", 'info':=20
> 'Referral:\nldap://mydir.org/CN=3DConfiguration,DC=3Dmydir,DC=3Dorg'}
>
> If I specify a user base DN of, e.g., ou=3Ddivision1,dc=3Dmydir,dc=3Dorg=
,=20
> then all is well (though of course, I'm not really searching the full=20=

> scope of records I want to search).
>
> Any ideas on how to tell where this error might be occurring (it=20
> strikes me that it's probably related to something in python-ldap or=20=

> open-ldap, rather than the LDAPUser folder, but I don't know.)
>
> Or is there some way I can tell modify the code to ignore the=20
> CN=3Dconfiguration portion of the directory tree? (since that seems to=20=

> be the root of the problem for whatever reason and it's not something=20=

> I need to look at for user authentication anyway).
>
> Sorry for the long-winded message, but this has been driving me batty=20=

> and I'm hoping it'll ring a bell with someone out there.
>
> Thanks much...
> Larry Prikockis
>



From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:05:12 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:05:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
References: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <15986.21016.697907.180749@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Nicolas =C9vrard wrote at 2003-3-13 19:47 +0100:
 > In order to diplay the person who wrote a new item I use his code :
 >=20
 > <em tal:content=3D"here/owner_info/id">Owner</em>
 >=20
 > Unfortunatly this don't work ! I keep getting authentication problems =
(I
 > test as Anonymous User).

You want to learn about "proxie" roles.

Please consult the Zope Book (2.6. edition).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:15:41 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:15:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Code question
In-Reply-To: <se71f7ad.058@tmpsrv.hnett.hoyre.no>
References: <se71f7ad.058@tmpsrv.hnett.hoyre.no>
Message-ID: <15986.21645.803135.355890@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Gunnar Kongsrud wrote at 2003-3-14 15:39 +0100:
 > Hi, I have a question about a code in pyhton. If the code below make my articals sort automatacly articals after 01.01.2003 ho do i get it to sort articals from 01.01.2001 to 01.01.2002 by using a simular code?
 > 
 >  python:object.portal_catalog(meta_type='Artikkel', level=object.level(), sort_on='Date', Date=['2003-01-01'],sort_order='reverse', Date_usage='range:min')

You put 2 dates in the list used as value of the "Date" parameter
and you use "range:min:max".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:12:22 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:12:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] eldav (webdav in emacs) loads just already proceeded html files
In-Reply-To: <87hea6w39z.fsf@debian-acer.brailcom.xx>
References: <87hea6w39z.fsf@debian-acer.brailcom.xx>
Message-ID: <15986.21446.143561.947355@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

stave@brailcom.org wrote at 2003-3-14 13:17 +0100:
 > I use this to load index_html:
 > 
 > Ctrl-X Ctrl-F:
 > Find-file: :http:/localhost:9673/index_html
 > 
 > It will load proceeded html output (without tal, args, ...).

Please learn about the WebDAV source port....



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:04:24 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:04:24 +0100
Subject: Wrong server in URL (was: Re: [Zope] (no subject))
In-Reply-To: <F113HLNu4HbuDl5zwmM0004cca3@hotmail.com>
References: <F113HLNu4HbuDl5zwmM0004cca3@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15986.20968.982503.3904@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

You should provide a useful subject....

Michael Havard wrote at 2003-3-13 17:15 +0000:
 > having a problem getting the absolute_url or portal_url within a CMF site.
 > 
 > We have a framed site that puts a ZOPE CMF site in one frame when needed. 
 > When the frame is first loaded all the links point to "mysite:8200" instead 
 > of where the ZOPE instance is being run "mysite:8300". If I right click on 
 > the zope frame and reload I get the correct links but loading it from 
 > another frame breaks the link reference. Is there another way to get the 
 > url?

That's really strange, as the server does not know whether the
request comes from a frame or not....

Are you sure, it is not a caching problem?

You recognize a (HTTP) caching problem by forcing a page
reload ("reload" maybe with "shift" key pressed)
and then everything is okay.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:11:27 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:11:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Performance of dtml-tree in ZMI
In-Reply-To: <200303141154.MAA54990@mailhub7.isdnet.net>
References: <200303141154.MAA54990@mailhub7.isdnet.net>
Message-ID: <15986.21391.417506.682537@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Pascal Samuzeau wrote at 2003-3-14 12:46 +0100:
 > Since some days, the performance of the result of the dtml-tree of the
 > left window of the ZMI is going lower to lower. Now, when I just      
 > recognize me from manage, I have to wait 1 minute to get the tree     
 > management.                                                           
 >                                                                       
 > Any idea about this slow performance?                                 

DTML Tree looks 1 level further down what you see (in order to
know whether or not it should show the objects as leaf).

Having a large folder or objects that are expensiv to load
can cause significant delays.

Database Adapter instances are especially dangerous.
They try to connect to the database when loaded from ZODB
and this takes minutes (before it fails) when the database
host is offline.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:07:41 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:07:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Unable create photo object using dtml and python
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F733eEHJtfob7b00004f4a@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F733eEHJtfob7b00004f4a@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15986.21165.954670.520194@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

LIM TIENAIK wrote at 2003-3-14 01:16 +0000:
 > i just took up zope and still experimenting with it.
 > What is a file upload object..? Can you show me an example?

It's about 2 meter tall and 1 meter large :-)

You find its definition in "ZPublisher.HTTPRequest.FileUpload".
You get an instance, when you sent a file to Zope
(via a form, e.g.).

You will find more information in the Zope Book...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 22:14:28 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:14:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] a login link
In-Reply-To: <20030314135836.GF26096@mc.duke.edu>
References: <20030314135836.GF26096@mc.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <15986.21572.8537.858937@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bryan C. Andregg wrote at 2003-3-14 08:58 -0500:
 > I'd like to provide a link, whereby clicking it would generate a login prompt
 > and then return to the calling page.
 > 
 > I thought I'd just create a script, viewable by only the people in the role
 > that I want to login.
 > 
 > I did this, and tried just to use,
 > 
 > context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(context.REQUEST['HTTP_REFERER'])
 > 
 > This doesn't work. Or I should say, it half works. If the login is successful,
 > the page is returned but the user object hasn't been updated (has_roles()
 > doesn't work) and subsiquent clicks of the link don't prompt for
 > authentication.

A typical HTTP authentication behaviour:

  Login information is automatically send to the subhierarchy
  rooted in the parent of the object that did require
  the authentication.

The HTTP 1.1 specification tells you more (if it is not enough).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 14 21:21:20 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 22:21:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope process goes to sleep
In-Reply-To: <3E70DACE.5020900@neurobs.com>
References: <3E70DACE.5020900@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15986.18384.573793.963097@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-13 11:23 -0800:
 > We have Zope 2.6.1 (upgraded) running behind Apache 2.0 on a Redhat 8 
 > dual processor machine with Py 2.1.3. Its been live for quite a few days.
 > 
 > Now every night at around 3-5 AM the server sort of stops responding. A 
 > ps -ax still shows the process running, and a ping to port 8080 on the 
 > machine returns a valid response, just that the server doesnt respond 
 > and Apache returns a proxy error.
 > ...
 > Any ideas as to what might be causing that? Has anybody seen that before?/

We have a similar effect:

  Zope suddenly stops and sometimes even a SIGTERM is unable
  to kill it (requires SIGKILL).

  I was once able to provoke this behaviour by pressing
  the "minimize" button in "Control_Panel --> Database Management
  --> Flush Cache".

  Therefore, I expect the problem to be a deadlock somehow
  related to invalidation (something requiring two looks
  acquired in different order at different places).

I did not yet seriously analyse the problem.


Dieter


From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Fri Mar 14 22:37:22 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:37:22 -0800
Subject: [Zope] app stress test  tool
Message-ID: <3E7259A2.5060906@neurobs.com>

Does anybody have any experience with a web app stress tool that works 
with zope and is available as a demo dowload?

TIA
AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Fri Mar 14 22:46:36 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:46:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] app stress test  tool
In-Reply-To: <3E7259A2.5060906@neurobs.com>
References: <3E7259A2.5060906@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <13856629208.20030314234636@elvix.com>

On  Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:37:22 -0800 GMT (..23:37 where i live(GMT+1) )
AM asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
A> Does anybody have any experience with a web app stress tool that works=
=20
A> with zope and is available as a demo dowload?

If you don't need anything fancy , 'ab' (apache benchmark) that comes
with most apache installations can measure stuff quite nicely

it should be available on most unix/linux machines that have apache
installed (and even exists as a command line tool for windows)

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Fri Mar 14 22:48:23 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:48:23 -0800
Subject: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems
Message-ID: <3E725C37.3060506@neurobs.com>

Hi,

I am using a custom user folder that authenticates users off a mysql db 
and is essentially a modified version of the mysqluserfolder product to 
allow some custom functionality that we needed. It also uses the 
CookieCrumbler product to provide login forms.

The problem we are facing seems to manifest itself only in the IE 5.5+ 
browsers. We have been unable to reproduce it on Netscape or Mozilla or 
Opera.

Evidently if a user logs in and logs out quickly and repeatedly, one out 
of four times the login fails even if the password is correct. The next 
time around though it the login attempt gets through. It happens quite 
randomly but about 25% of the time, only when a user logs in and logs 
out and logs back in again within a relatively short interval.

Has anobody else experienced this problem??
Are there any workarounds at all??

TIA
AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From alienoid@is.lg.ua  Fri Mar 14 23:12:19 2003
From: alienoid@is.lg.ua (Ruslan Spivak)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 01:12:19 +0200
Subject: [Zope] record modifier + <select>
Message-ID: <3E7261D3.3050904@is.lg.ua>

Hello, zope users!

Can anybody tell me how to use record modifier with 
<select><option></option><select> ?
I need to pass 3 variables to form handler when user selected something 
from dropdown list,
any suggestions how to do that?

Thanks in advance,
Ruslan




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Fri Mar 14 23:22:48 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:22:48 -0800
Subject: [Zope] zope process goes to sleep
References: <3E70DACE.5020900@neurobs.com> <15986.18384.573793.963097@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E726448.3090805@neurobs.com>

Dieter Maurer wrote:

>  I was once able to provoke this behaviour by pressing
>  the "minimize" button in "Control_Panel --> Database Management
>  --> Flush Cache".
>  
>
Couldnt reproduce that but thats fine.

>  Therefore, I expect the problem to be a deadlock somehow
>  related to invalidation (something requiring two looks
>  acquired in different order at different places).
>  
>
Well quite frankly I didnt understand what you said here. However the 
debug log for zope does log a conflict but only for the background image 
or the css file or some such thing (mostly)

>I did not yet seriously analyse the problem.
>
>
>Dieter
>

How would I go about analysing such a problem.

Thanks
AM


-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sat Mar 15 18:13:07 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:13:07 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VHM probing?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315092828.02332cf0@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

Hey all,

Looking over the logs this morning, I'm seeing a large number of Not Found 
errors for requests of the form:

http://www.myvirtualhost.com/vhm//

(Requests included the trailing double slash... that's not a typo)

I'm still looking into what else may have gone on, but it would appear that 
*something* is attempting to find VHM setups.

This probing doesn't look like it was done by hand... there were 14 
simultaneous requests at a time to different hosts, spaced about an hour 
apart.  I got probed at least four different times.   The requests were 
repeated in similar patterns.

Without knowing anything else, it seems prudent to suggest that y'all might 
want to give your VHM objects a name other than the typical variants on 
"VHM".  Since it doesn't matter anyway, why not pick something a little 
less guessable?

I'll post more information if I dig anything up.  As it stands, it doesn't 
appear that anything has been compromised or defaced.

Is anyone else seeing this?

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sat Mar 15 19:06:00 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:06:00 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VHM followup... an open proxy probe?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315101536.02338810@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

Looking over the Apache logs a bit more carefully, I can see several 
requests of the form:

http://www.virtualhost.com/misc_/SiteAccess/VirtualHostMonster.gif

and

http://www.virtualhost.com/p_/zopelogo_jpg

Both of which will return graphics positively identifying your server as 
Zope unless you've taken measures to the contrary.  Oops.

Around the same times as the probes for site/vhm//, there were several 
failed requests to use my server as an open proxy... my guess is that open 
proxies may be what the probe is *really* looking for.  Zope servers 
running VHM are highly likely to be running Apache and given the variety 
and age of the available docs on setting up Zope with Apache, it may be 
fair to assume that some number of Zope+VHM+Apache sites are set up insecurely.

A couple thoughts/recommendations:

1. Read up on configuring and securing Apache proxy services: 
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_proxy.html#access
2. Don't volunteer configuration info to potential attackers.  You can 
conceal misc_ and p_ from your virtual sites by placing empty folders with 
these names in the folder above your virtual root.  You may wish to name 
your VHM object something unpredictable.  Ensure that Apache is configured 
with ServerSignature Off.


FWIW,

Dylan



From johan30@easynet.be  Sat Mar 15 19:40:50 2003
From: johan30@easynet.be (johan)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:40:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problems with init-script
Message-ID: <006d01c2eb2a$cbf3edf0$0200000a@SPIN>

I work on debian, and i am pretty new with zope (version (2.6.1) . I use
the -deb vesion. It looks very fine, but I have problems with the
init-script. When I do /etc/init.d/zope start, the server starts, but he
keeps hanging on the points. At the server itself it is no problem,
because you can let the terminal session open, but the problem is that
this occurs at the booting process (init.d before launching the network
interfaces), which causes the server hangs. So is there a solution for
those processes ?

/etc/init.d/zope restart
Starting Zope...

thx a lot 
Johan 




From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Sat Mar 15 20:00:03 2003
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:00:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2654 - 34 msgs
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030314133655.02342910@pop3.spa.norton.antiviru
 s>
References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030314202044.00a7a8d0@mail.club-internet.fr>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030314095651.022f3dd8@pop3.spa.norton.antiviru s>
 <5.1.1.6.0.20030314180833.00aa3728@mail.club-internet.fr>
 <20030314170010.14775.42169.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030315205552.00a6cf60@mail.club-internet.fr>

At 13:40 14/03/2003 -0800, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
>Sounds like a great idea... when you think you've gathered enough 
>arguments to share, you should write it up and submit it to www.zope.org.

:-) Well, just showing people that they don't have to stick an index.php in 
every single sub-directory of their site is a pretty nice way to get them 
interested.

Second, having a great OOP language like Python is another plus

And finally, the fact that Zope is a breeze to install and is available for 
different OS's as well is another plus.

The only thing that might make people suspicious are performance (since I 
understand most of Zope is built in Python instead of being compiled for 
the given platform), and having to learn Python and DTML/ZPT, but it's not 
that big a deal.

BTW, I found that playing with PHITE helped me a lot to understand how Zope 
worked and what added value it offered compared to eg. PHP.

Fred.



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sat Mar 15 20:11:57 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 12:11:57 -0800
Subject: [Zope] problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <006d01c2eb2a$cbf3edf0$0200000a@SPIN>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315115739.02349418@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

At 11:40 AM 3/15/2003, johan wrote:
>the problem is that
>this occurs at the booting process (init.d before launching the network
>interfaces), which causes the server hangs. So is there a solution for
>those processes ?

Don't launch Zope before networking is up.  That should do the trick.

HTH,

Dylan



From johan30@easynet.be  Sat Mar 15 20:55:39 2003
From: johan30@easynet.be (johan)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:55:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315115739.02349418@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>

Ok , I understand, but anyway, it will cause all the other processes not
being launched, because zope makes the server hanging. Is every zope
server on debian experiances this problem ?

Greetz,
Johan




-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of
Dylan Reinhardt
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:12 PM
To: johan; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] problems with init-script



At 11:40 AM 3/15/2003, johan wrote:
>the problem is that
>this occurs at the booting process (init.d before launching the network

>interfaces), which causes the server hangs. So is there a solution for 
>those processes ?

Don't launch Zope before networking is up.  That should do the trick.

HTH,

Dylan


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From borelan@wanadoo.fr  Sat Mar 15 21:31:16 2003
From: borelan@wanadoo.fr (D2)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:31:16 -0400
Subject: [Zope] How to Add an object at the root of a zope tree
Message-ID: <3E739BA4.8030701@wanadoo.fr>

How to add an object at the root of a Zope tree even if the method has 
been called inside a subfolder ?

I tried location=aq_parent(getattr(self, 'Control_Panel'))
it returns the folder where is located the method. (I suppose that 
'Control_Panel' is acquired)

I tried : location=aq_parent(aq_inner(getattr(self, 'Control_Panel')))
It raises an error : 'aq_parent is not defined'. It's the same with aq_base.

Is there a function returning the absolute root ?

TIA

Andre



From rawbobb@hotmail.com  Sat Mar 15 22:24:07 2003
From: rawbobb@hotmail.com (Bobb)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:24:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux
References: <3E678812.6080006@lightlink.com> <3E7060C7.10701@bigorangelovebus.net>
Message-ID: <BAY1-DAV567s0Kw0gUf00018c6b@hotmail.com>

my 2cents...
we use access to front end mysql (hopefully not for long).  The character
sets in access wreak havoc for us in our database.  Between special
characters, and M$ wanting to control spelling, etc. , it's a (boardline)
nightmare.  If you HAVE to front end mysql w/ access, I'd put all input /
edit fields in a courier font.  This seems to help view all of the garbage
that can be placed in the database.

Bobb
----- Original Message -----
From: "andy" <andy@bigorangelovebus.net>
To: "Wade Leftwich" <wade@lightlink.com>
Cc: <Zope@zope.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] odbc da for zope on linux


> Thanks Wade & all,
>
> It looks like the easiest way forward is to convert all the databases to
> mysql, front-end them for the users with Access, and use the mysqlda for
> the zope stuff. Only problem I'm having is getting the
> MySQL-python-0.9.0 setup.py file to work. It claims there's no such file
> as distutils.core, even though I can find that file myself.
>
> Any ideas where I'm going wrong? I've got all the databases ready to
> roll, and just need the DA to work. According to my system, the core.py
> file is in /usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/, and the setup.py file in the
> MySQL-python-0.9.0 directory reads:
>
> #!/usr/bin/env python
>
> import os, sys
> from distutils.core import setup
> from distutils.extension import Extension
>
> If I try to build or install this file, then I get an error saying:
>
> ImportError: No module named distutils.core
>
> Should I be changing some of the setup.py file? I can't see where the
> problem lies...
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Andy
>
> Wade Leftwich wrote:
> >
> >
> > Your Access mdb file is on your Linux box? I don't think you can open it
> > there.
> > You'll need to put it on a Windows box, then talk to it via ODBC over
> > the network.
> >
> > Marc-Andre Lemburg's new and excellent mxODBC Zope Adapter will do the
job.
> > It's a bargain at $95 per Zope server. I'm using it on Windows, but have
> > tested his mxODBC module on Linux, and it works.
> >
> > mxODBC enables Python to talk to the ODBC driver manager on your Linux
> > box. There are a couple
> > of free ODBC driver mgrs available for Linux. Then for getting your
> > Linux box to talk
> > to the Access box, there are one or two free projects as well as
> > commercial products
> > (http://easysoft.com/).
> >
> > If you don't need to keep the db in Access for other reasons, now would
> > be an excellent time
> > to take a good look at PostgreSql.
> >
> > You can probably get more answers on the Zope-db list.
> >
> > Wade Leftwich
> > Ithaca, NY
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Mar 15 22:37:18 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:37:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] VHM followup... an open proxy probe?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315101536.02338810@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315101536.02338810@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <20030315223718.GG5224@audible.transient.net>

Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> Looking over the Apache logs a bit more carefully, I can see several 
> requests of the form:
> 
> http://www.virtualhost.com/misc_/SiteAccess/VirtualHostMonster.gif
> and
> http://www.virtualhost.com/p_/zopelogo_jpg
> 
> Both of which will return graphics positively identifying your server as 
> Zope unless you've taken measures to the contrary.  Oops.

Hmm.  There are million ways to fingerprint zope, I suppose those are
as good as any.  But check out OFS/Application.py for nice fat sack of
ideas.  This is why I really want a tool that I can use to expose
every possible object available for request that includes what you can
obtain via acquisition.  It would making locking down a zope
installation much easier.
 
> Around the same times as the probes for site/vhm//, there were several 

Thats pretty interesting... assuming they'd find the vhm object...
what is there to do with it?  I actually tried doing stuff like that a
long time ago but I couldn't come up with anything useful to do with
it, maybe I missed something.  I do tend to use a random string
generator when naming objects that have no direct traversal value
though, I figure it can't hurt.

I looked through my logs for the past week, I didn't see any similar
signs of curiosity apart from my own attempts.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing
 next to you may not be who they appear to be, so take precaution."
						-Sathington Willoughby


From ed@leafe.com  Sat Mar 15 22:37:15 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 17:37:15 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Using ZPT to create XML - early processing
Message-ID: <ABA18FC8-5736-11D7-83D9-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

	I've had good success generating XML using Page Templates, but just 
ran into a problem I can't figure out. I'm trying to create an RSS 2.0 
feed, and wanted to be able to fill in the time dynamically in the 
comment at the top of the page. Here's an example of the first three 
lines of the page template:

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<!-- RSS generated by Zope 2.6.1 on Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:29:11 EST -->
<rss version="2.0" xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal" 
xmlns:xsi = "http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">

	If I try to use TAL in the comment line, it doesn't get processed. It 
seems that ZPT will not process TAL content within the comment. I've 
also tried to generate the whole comment tag from TAL using something 
like:

<dummy tal:replace="python:'<!-- foo -->'">foo</dummy>
  - or -
<dummy tal:replace="structure python:'<!-- foo -->'">foo</dummy>
  - or -
<dummy tal:replace="structure python:'<' + '!' + '-- foo 
-->'">foo</dummy>

but they all result in an error when I try to save it:
	Compilation failed
	xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 
17, column 35

	So is there any way to generate commented XML using TAL?

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
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  http://leafe.com/
  http://opentech.leafe.com



From alet@librelogiciel.com  Sat Mar 15 23:13:28 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 00:13:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] VHM followup... an open proxy probe?
In-Reply-To: <20030315223718.GG5224@audible.transient.net>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315101536.02338810@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <20030315223718.GG5224@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <20030315231328.GB28882@mail.librelogiciel.com>

Hi,

On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 02:37:18PM -0800, Jamie Heilman wrote:
> Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> > 
> > Both of which will return graphics positively identifying your server as 
> > Zope unless you've taken measures to the contrary.  Oops.
> 
> Hmm.  There are million ways to fingerprint zope, I suppose those are
> as good as any.  

http://www.yourserver.com/HelpSys cleary identifies Zope but
also list "some of" the installed products (those which have
documentation). 

/HelpSys shouldn't be available to anonymous users.

Knowing which products are installed, attack is easier.

bye,

Jerome Alet


From ruger@comnett.net  Sun Mar 16 07:21:35 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: 15 Mar 2003 23:21:35 -0800
Subject: [Zope] local variable
Message-ID: <1047799297.1211.8.camel@dad.andersonville.com>

I've got a python script that sets a variable:

    notes_eo_counter = 0 

And then defines a function:

    def printNotesRow(columns):
        if columns[3][:31] == 'Automatic person update notice':
            print "<tr"
            if (int(notes_eo_counter) % 2):
                print 'bgcolor="#ffffff">'
            else:
                print 'bgcolor="#' + str(session['CRBGColor']) + '">'
                
            print '<td class="bodysmall">' +
str(context.fixDate(columns[0])) + '</td>'
            print '<td class="bodysmall">' + columns[1] + '</td>'
            print '<td class="bodysmall">' + str(columns[3][36:-1]) +
'</td>'
            print '</tr>'
            notes_eo_counter = notes_eo_counter + 1
            return printed


And then calls it:

            newnotesrow = printNotesRow()
            if newnotesrow:
                print newnotesrow

	    return printed

This has worked just fine in several scripts, but in this particular one
I'm gettin an error:

Error Type: UnboundLocalError
Error Value: local variable 'notes_eo_counter' referenced before
assignment


Those lines, although blended with many others, are in that order in the
code. I don't know how I'm getting this error and it's driving me nuts.
The line that the traceback points to is:

            if (int(notes_eo_counter) % 2):



TIA

Rick




From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sun Mar 16 10:55:33 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:55:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to Add an object at the root of a zope tree
In-Reply-To: <3E739BA4.8030701@wanadoo.fr>
References: <3E739BA4.8030701@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <b51l6c$6al$1@main.gmane.org>

D2 wrote:
> How to add an object at the root of a Zope tree even if the method has 
> been called inside a subfolder ?
> 
> I tried location=aq_parent(getattr(self, 'Control_Panel'))
> it returns the folder where is located the method. (I suppose that 
> 'Control_Panel' is acquired)
> 
> I tried : location=aq_parent(aq_inner(getattr(self, 'Control_Panel')))
> It raises an error : 'aq_parent is not defined'. It's the same with 
> aq_base.
> 
> Is there a function returning the absolute root ?

Hi!

Create a PythonScript at the root of your Zope-Tree with id='ServerRoot' 
(or something similar) with content:

return container

Then you can get the root of your ZopeServer with calling ServerRoot()...

Cheers, Maik

-- 
Deutsche/German Zope User Group
http://www.dzug.org/




From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sun Mar 16 11:00:44 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:00:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315115739.02349418@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>
Message-ID: <b51lg3$74q$1@main.gmane.org>

johan wrote:
> Ok , I understand, but anyway, it will cause all the other processes not
> being launched, because zope makes the server hanging. Is every zope
> server on debian experiances this problem ?

Hi.

most distro-based-Zope-installations are a mess. If you don't want to 
run into trouble etc. you should use the binary-distro of Zope (with 
python already included) or the source-distro (use your own python) and 
install it for testing purposes in your home-dir. It's very easy to 
do... 5-minutes-job. Then you can play, test, evaluate, collect 
experience, ...

If you want to set up a production-server, you shouldn't rely on the 
debian-packages for Zope anyway...

Cheers, Maik




From andreas@easyleading.org  Sun Mar 16 13:09:11 2003
From: andreas@easyleading.org (Andreas Heckel)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:09:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZDatabaseTool at CeBIT 2003 !
Message-ID: <3E747777.D4D28538@easyleading.org>

Hope to see you at Hall 11 Booth B26 Technical University Ilmenau.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
Andreas Heckel                                  andreas@easyleading.org
LINUX is like a wigwam...no gates...no windows and an apache inside ;-)


From nicoe@altern.org  Sun Mar 16 13:16:40 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:16:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <15986.21016.697907.180749@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx> <15986.21016.697907.180749@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030316131640.GA4602@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

* Dieter Maurer  [23:05 14/03/03 CET]:=20
>Nicolas =C9vrard wrote at 2003-3-13 19:47 +0100:
> > In order to diplay the person who wrote a new item I use his code :
> >=20
> > <em tal:content=3D"here/owner_info/id">Owner</em>
> >=20
> > Unfortunatly this don't work ! I keep getting authentication problems=
 (I
> > test as Anonymous User).
>
>You want to learn about "proxie" roles.
>

I did, as explained in
<20030314012324.GA29602@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>, but I though this
kind of thing didn't need a proxy.

PS : Don't CC me on replies, I read the list (and use
Mail-Followup-To).

Thanks.

--=20
(=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


From borelan@wanadoo.fr  Sun Mar 16 14:08:46 2003
From: borelan@wanadoo.fr (D2)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:08:46 -0400
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to Add an object at the root of a zope tree
References: <3E739BA4.8030701@wanadoo.fr> <b51l6c$6al$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E74856E.4020507@wanadoo.fr>

Thanks, i thought there was another solution.
At initialization time, i use, -ProductContext__app to get the server root.

Andre

Maik Jablonski a écrit:
> D2 wrote:
> 
>> How to add an object at the root of a Zope tree even if the method has 
>> been called inside a subfolder ?
>>
>> I tried location=aq_parent(getattr(self, 'Control_Panel'))
>> it returns the folder where is located the method. (I suppose that 
>> 'Control_Panel' is acquired)
>>
>> I tried : location=aq_parent(aq_inner(getattr(self, 'Control_Panel')))
>> It raises an error : 'aq_parent is not defined'. It's the same with 
>> aq_base.
>>
>> Is there a function returning the absolute root ?
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Create a PythonScript at the root of your Zope-Tree with id='ServerRoot' 
> (or something similar) with content:
> 
> return container
> 
> Then you can get the root of your ZopeServer with calling ServerRoot()...
> 
> Cheers, Maik
> 




From news@pernex.de  Sun Mar 16 14:51:42 2003
From: news@pernex.de (news@pernex.de)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:51:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
Message-ID: <000001c2ebcb$8ff80600$0f00a8c0@p5ws>

Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3

I am using zope on a redhat 7.3 vserver (server4free.de) machine for the
first time. Up to now I have only experiences with zope on suse 8.0
(zope is preconfigured there).

I am trying to get zope started at boot process.
 - I installed zope correctly on the machine.
 - changed all the necessary permissions according to
http://www.zope.org/Members/markoer2/resources/howtos/redhat_7.3_startup
. 
 - the zope startup script starts the zope server correctly
 - created an init script zope at /etc/rc.d/init.d
 - registered the zope service with chkconfig --add zope

But nevertheless zope won't startup on boot process.

When I try to invoke zope manually as root by 
 service zope start 
I only get
 env: /etc/init.d/zope: No such file or directory 

I don't' get any further. What did I wrong? Can you help me? Thanx in
advance.

Cheers

Dominik Fischer




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar 16 16:06:05 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 08:06:05 -0800
Subject: [Zope] problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315115739.02349418@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030316075238.02317e98@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

This isn't a Zope issue... you'll have this problem pretty much any time 
you attempt to launch a network-dependent server prior to launching 
networking.  Just give Zope a higher number and you'll be all set.

Dylan



At 12:55 PM 3/15/2003, johan wrote:
>Ok , I understand, but anyway, it will cause all the other processes not
>being launched, because zope makes the server hanging. Is every zope
>server on debian experiances this problem ?
>
>Greetz,
>Johan
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of
>Dylan Reinhardt
>Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:12 PM
>To: johan; zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] problems with init-script
>
>
>
>At 11:40 AM 3/15/2003, johan wrote:
> >the problem is that
> >this occurs at the booting process (init.d before launching the network
>
> >interfaces), which causes the server hangs. So is there a solution for
> >those processes ?
>
>Don't launch Zope before networking is up.  That should do the trick.
>
>HTH,
>
>Dylan
>
>
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From evan@4-am.com  Sun Mar 16 16:36:59 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:36:59 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Using ZPT to create XML - early processing
In-Reply-To: <ABA18FC8-5736-11D7-83D9-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
References: <ABA18FC8-5736-11D7-83D9-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <3E74A82B.3020404@4-am.com>

Ed Leafe wrote:
> <?xml version="1.0" ?>
> <!-- RSS generated by Zope 2.6.1 on Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:29:11 EST -->
[...]
>     If I try to use TAL in the comment line, it doesn't get processed. 
> It seems that ZPT will not process TAL content within the comment.
[...]
>     So is there any way to generate commented XML using TAL?

This works:

<tal:comment
   xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
   define="now python:DateTime().strftime('%e %b %Y')"
   replace="structure string:&lt;!-- $now --&gt;" />

TAL doesn't process comments, so you do have to generate the entire 
comment.  The XML parser doesn't like unescaped '<>&' characters in 
attribute values, so you need to escape them.  Finally, when generating 
XML you need to make sure there's a 'xmlns:tal' declaration on or around 
your tag -- since there's no surrounding tag in this case, we have to 
put it on the tag itself.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am




From jens@zope.com  Sun Mar 16 16:47:24 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
In-Reply-To: <000001c2ebcb$8ff80600$0f00a8c0@p5ws>
Message-ID: <F6DF5F78-57CE-11D7-8A7F-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

after doing the chkconfig --add, have you checked that the script will  
be run by looking at the output of chkconfig --list? you might have to  
do a chkconfig --level xyz zope on to set the runlevels.

jens


On Sunday, Mar 16, 2003, at 09:51 US/Eastern, news@pernex.de wrote:

> Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
>
> I am using zope on a redhat 7.3 vserver (server4free.de) machine for  
> the
> first time. Up to now I have only experiences with zope on suse 8.0
> (zope is preconfigured there).
>
> I am trying to get zope started at boot process.
>  - I installed zope correctly on the machine.
>  - changed all the necessary permissions according to
> http://www.zope.org/Members/markoer2/resources/howtos/ 
> redhat_7.3_startup
> .
>  - the zope startup script starts the zope server correctly
>  - created an init script zope at /etc/rc.d/init.d
>  - registered the zope service with chkconfig --add zope
>
> But nevertheless zope won't startup on boot process.
>
> When I try to invoke zope manually as root by
>  service zope start
> I only get
>  env: /etc/init.d/zope: No such file or directory
>
> I don't' get any further. What did I wrong? Can you help me? Thanx in
> advance.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dominik Fischer



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sun Mar 16 17:30:25 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 18:30:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: How to Add an object at the root of a zope tree
In-Reply-To: <3E74856E.4020507@wanadoo.fr>
References: <3E739BA4.8030701@wanadoo.fr> <b51l6c$6al$1@main.gmane.org> <3E74856E.4020507@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <b52can$3q8$1@main.gmane.org>

D2 wrote:
> Thanks, i thought there was another solution.
> At initialization time, i use, -ProductContext__app to get the server root.

You can use (un)restrictedTraverse('/') to get the root of your 
Zope-Server...

-mj




From mcp.bov@insightbb.com  Sun Mar 16 18:32:25 2003
From: mcp.bov@insightbb.com (Mike P)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:32:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Problem accessing help in Zope
Message-ID: <000f01c2ebea$64ab0780$1de4dc0c@ct192133a>

I'm new to Zope and reading "The Zope Book". Following along with the
book, I created a version for making changes and not go live with them
until all changes were complete. The problem is unless I am working in
the changes version I get the following error when accessing some, but
not all, of the help topics:

Error Type: VersionLockError
Error Value: ('"\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\xec"','/myChanges')

Error does not occur in any of the help topics if I am working in
myChanges version. I'm using Zope 2.6.1 on Windows 2000. Any assistance
would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike P.


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From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Sun Mar 16 18:38:18 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 16 Mar 2003 18:38:18 +0000
Subject: [Zope] How to inherit DTML methods from the web interface
Message-ID: <1047839896.6341.10.camel@pc-dt>

I want to be able to override methods in my product with web based
methods (e.g. standard_html_header) created in the Zope web interface.

How do I do this?

Thanks,
Pieter
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From ed@leafe.com  Sun Mar 16 19:33:46 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:33:46 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Using ZPT to create XML - early processing
In-Reply-To: <3E74A82B.3020404@4-am.com>
Message-ID: <34A9812E-57E6-11D7-83D9-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 11:36  AM, Evan Simpson wrote:

> Ed Leafe wrote:
>> <?xml version="1.0" ?>
>> <!-- RSS generated by Zope 2.6.1 on Sat, 15 Mar 2003 13:29:11 EST -->
> [...]
>>     If I try to use TAL in the comment line, it doesn't get 
>> processed. It seems that ZPT will not process TAL content within the 
>> comment.
> [...]
>>     So is there any way to generate commented XML using TAL?
>
> This works:
>
> <tal:comment
>   xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"
>   define="now python:DateTime().strftime('%e %b %Y')"
>   replace="structure string:&lt;!-- $now --&gt;" />
>
> TAL doesn't process comments, so you do have to generate the entire 
> comment.  The XML parser doesn't like unescaped '<>&' characters in 
> attribute values, so you need to escape them.  Finally, when 
> generating XML you need to make sure there's a 'xmlns:tal' declaration 
> on or around your tag -- since there's no surrounding tag in this 
> case, we have to put it on the tag itself.

	That makes sense, but it still doesn't seem to work when it's located 
at the very top of the XML document, before the root element. I have 
the <?xml version="1.0" ?> line, followed by your suggestion, followed 
by the root element, and I get the following error:

	Compilation failed
	xml.parsers.expat.ExpatError: junk after document element: line 8, 
column 0

Line 8 is the line containing the root element. If I place that exact 
same line *after* the root element, there is no problem.

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
  Ed Leafe
  http://leafe.com/
  http://opentech.leafe.com



From Thomas Guettler <thomas@thomas-guettler.de>  Sun Mar 16 19:38:45 2003
From: Thomas Guettler <thomas@thomas-guettler.de> (Thomas Guettler)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:38:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource
In-Reply-To: <BA9754CF.ABE2%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>
References: <BA9754CF.ABE2%cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com>
Message-ID: <20030316193845.GB865@thomas-guettler.de>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 09:43:43AM -0500, Chris Muldrow wrote:
> Right now we've got our main Catalog storing only information about a
> Zclass, and it's only got one ZCTextindex--on PrincipiaSearchSource. I'd
> like people to be able to search the title AND the PrincipiaSearchSource at
> the same time

You could write a python method which is called
PrincipiaSearchSource. This returns the combination of the original
text and the title.

> And now to complicate things even more...
> Say I want to mix it up a bit and include pictures in my search. Our
> pictures have a property called Cutline that would need to be indexed. Could
> we trick the Catalog into also indexing Cutline in the same TextIndex? Or am
> I just talking crazy now?

def PrincipiaSearchSource(self):
	return "%s %s %s" % (self.oldPrincipiaSearchSource, self.title, self.Cutline)

BTW, according to the general style guide attributes should be written
with lower case. (*C*utline)

 thomas

--
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http://www.thomas-guettler.de



From mark@dimensional.com  Sun Mar 16 22:01:27 2003
From: mark@dimensional.com (Mark Gibson)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:01:27 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Zope] Catalog wierdness?
Message-ID: <20030316220127.94B95143CD@flatland.dimensional.com>

Using:
 Zope Version 
 (Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3, linux2) 
 Python Version 
 2.1.3 (#1, Apr 22 2002, 16:16:34) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-85)] 

In the catalog, I have a FieldIndex that contains an integer.
I want to select all objects where that number is 0 or less.

objs=Catalog(number_times_sent=0 ,number_times_sent_usage='range:max' )

However, this returns all items, regardless of the value of number_times_sent.
If an object has number_times_sent to 2, and I do this call:

objs= Catalog(number_times_sent=1 ,number_times_sent_usage='range:max' )

It works as expected, and that object isn't returned.  Also, when 
number_times_sent is 0, the following does work.

objs= Catalog(number_times_sent=0)

Since I won't have a negative value, this does what I want. However,
number_times_sent is variable, so it would be nice if 'range:max' worked for 
zero.

Is there any logical explanation?  Bug? Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Mark


From claw@kanga.nu  Sun Mar 16 22:12:55 2003
From: claw@kanga.nu (J C Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:12:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: Message from "johan" <johan30@easynet.be>
 of "Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:55:39 +0100." <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>
References: <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>
Message-ID: <12788.1047852775@kanga.nu>

On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 21:55:39 +0100 
johan30  <johan> wrote:

> Ok , I understand, but anyway, it will cause all the other processes
> not being launched, because zope makes the server hanging. Is every
> zope server on debian experiances this problem ?

I'm not.

I have minor problems with Zope 2.5 silently dieing (and sometimes
locking up), but I whacked that mole with:

  #!/bin/sh
  #set -x
  if (wget http://localhost:9673/status_page --spider -t 1 -T 5 >& /dev/null)
  then
    # Zope is alive
    if [ -f /var/lib/zope/zope-status.down ] 
    then
      # echo Zope is up | mail webmaster
      rm -f /var/lib/zope/zope-status.down
      touch /var/lib//zope/zope-status.up
      echo `date` Zope is up >> /var/log/zope/crash.log
    fi
  else 
    # Zope is dead
    if [ -f /var/lib/zope/zope-status.up ] 
    then
      echo Zope is down | mail webmaster
      rm -f /var/lib/zope/zope-status.up
      touch /var/lib/zope/zope-status.down
      echo `date` Zope is down >> /var/log/zope/crash.log
      cd /var/lib/zope
      /etc/init.d/zope stop
      #export DIRNAME="var/logsnap/`date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S`"
      #mkdir "$DIRNAME"
      #tail Zap/logs/zdnetindia.com-access_log > "$DIRNAME/zap.log"
      #tail var/Z2.log > "$DIRNAME/Z2.log"
      #tail var/debug.log > "$DIRNAME/debug.log"
      #tail -30 var/zope-events.log > "$DIRNAME/zope-events.log"
      /etc/init.d/zope start
    fi
  fi

-- 
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---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.


From claw@kanga.nu  Sun Mar 16 22:17:19 2003
From: claw@kanga.nu (J C Lawrence)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:17:19 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: Message from Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de>
 of "Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:00:44 +0100." <b51lg3$74q$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315115739.02349418@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN>  <b51lg3$74q$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <12845.1047853039@kanga.nu>

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:00:44 +0100 
Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de> wrote:

> most distro-based-Zope-installations are a mess. If you don't want to
> run into trouble etc. you should use the binary-distro of Zope (with
> python already included) or the source-distro (use your own python)
> and install it for testing purposes in your home-dir. It's very easy
> to do... 5-minutes-job. Then you can play, test, evaluate, collect
> experience, ...

Without supporting reasoning this is FUD.

> If you want to set up a production-server, you shouldn't rely on the
> debian-packages for Zope anyway...

Why?

-- 
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---------(*)                Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. 
claw@kanga.nu               He lived as a devil, eh?		  
http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/  Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live.


From mail@peterbe.com  Sun Mar 16 22:28:12 2003
From: mail@peterbe.com (Peter Bengtsson)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:28:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] HTML product?
In-Reply-To: <20030312073508.18747.qmail@web15201.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030316222706.02163ac0@mail.grenna.net>

At 15:35 2003-03-12 +0800, =3D?gb2312?q?Chen=3D20Fu?=3D wrote:
>Hi!
>I often save useful web page down to disk for an
>archive, or make CHM by some toolkit. Recently i setup
>my own zope site, and i wonder whether there is
>already a product that can pick up the data saved from
>IE and catalog them to make it possible for google
>like search?
>any idea or suggestion?
>

Create a subclass of the Folder class which is ZCatalogaware and then use=20
the load_site.py script to periodically upload your local files.



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From zjp@arches.uga.edu  Mon Mar 17 03:33:47 2003
From: zjp@arches.uga.edu (Jianping Zhu)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:33:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] what advantage does zope has over apache (help)
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303162230460.101828-100000@stats.arches.uga.edu>

I am prtty good in apache, but have a little bot knowlege about zope.
Can somebody tell me what advantabes does zope have over apache. or point
to me some article comparing zope to apache?

Thanks


--------------------------------
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From pskipworth@touchcorp.com  Mon Mar 17 04:43:27 2003
From: pskipworth@touchcorp.com (pskipworth@touchcorp.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:43:27 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Macro question
Message-ID: <H00000fd0054b9f1.1047876207.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>

Hi,

I'm setting up a site that has a different Zope folder per section of 
content. Each section has multiple pages but each page has a common menu 
down the left hand side of the page. 

I figured I would have one main template at the top level, and then a 
'sub-template' within each folder that fills a 'menu' slot within the 
main template. The subtemplate will have a 'content' slot which each 
individual page will fill with content. 

However, I tried setting this up, assuming the 'sub-template' would need 
to be defined as a macro, as well as use-templating the main template. 
Zope complains, however, that a page can't be both of these things!

Any ideas on how to do this 'properly' ?

Thanks,

P


PETER SKIPWORTH
SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR
TOUCHCORP LTD
TELEPHONE 03 9635 2626
www.touchcorp.com

 



From lluporini@yahoo.com.ar  Mon Mar 17 06:41:56 2003
From: lluporini@yahoo.com.ar (Luis Mariano Luporini)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 03:41:56 -0300
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Exception Handling questions
Message-ID: <3E756E34.5080000@yahoo.com.ar>

Hi list:
        I'm trying to learn more about Zope/Python. I think it's a 
really great tool.

        Now my situation:

        I'm using Zope 2.6.1 w/ Python 2.1.3, z/psycopg 1.1.2 and 
Postgres 7.3 on Gentoo Linux.

        I have a connection open to the pg server, I can 
select/delete/insert/update without problems.

        I have now a ZSql method that performs an insert and I have a 
Python Script that calls it. I'd like to check if the execution of the 
insert operation was succesful and if not, the reason.

        Now the questions:

        1) I've read about try/except and StandarError.
 
            if I use something like:

                try:
                        some statement
                except StandardError, e:
                        print e

        I got a whole string containing the sql executed an a 
description of the error. So what is e really? Can I get an error 
number, description and more information out of e? If not how can i do it?

        2) Trying to specialize the exception treated I changed 
StandardError for IntegrityError/DatabaseError but in both cases i got:

        *Error Type: NameError*
*        Error Value: global name 'DatabaseError/IntegrityError' is not 
defined*

        Then i added to the script "import psycopg", with the same 
results and finally tried "import psycopg.Error" and got

        *Error Type: ImportError*
*        Error Value: import of "psycopg.Error" is unauthorized

        So which way I have to go?

        Thanks in advance.

        Luis.


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From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Mon Mar 17 07:15:29 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:15:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Macro question
In-Reply-To: <H00000fd0054b9f1.1047876207.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>
References: <H00000fd0054b9f1.1047876207.bourbon.touchcorp.com@MHS>
Message-ID: <181739363.20030317081529@elvix.com>

On  Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:43:27 +1100 GMT (..5:43 where i live(GMT+1) )
pskipworth@touchcorp.com asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
ptc> Hi,

ptc> I'm setting up a site that has a different Zope folder per section o=
f=20
ptc> content. Each section has multiple pages but each page has a common =
menu=20
ptc> down the left hand side of the page.=20

ptc> I figured I would have one main template at the top level, and then =
a=20
ptc> 'sub-template' within each folder that fills a 'menu' slot within th=
e=20
ptc> main template. The subtemplate will have a 'content' slot which each=
=20
ptc> individual page will fill with content.=20

what about making just one "main"-template that you use for all pages,
with just the "menu"-template exporting your menu-macro in the
folders?
-
Then you can have something like
<div class=3D"menu" metal:fill-slot=3D"here/menutemplate/macros/menu">
</div>
in your "main" template..

:)

--
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 09:00:23 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:00:23 +0000
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd
References: <785B2E8E-541C-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>      <3E708572.6090603@nipltd.com> <49375.199.67.140.20.1047568585.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <3E758EA7.3070708@nipltd.com>

BZ wrote:
> Zope Version  (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86), python
> 2.1.3, linux2)
> Python Version  2.1.3 (#1, Apr 15 2002, 11:13:45) [GCC 2.7.2.3]

Moving to 2.6.1 will likely solve this...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 09:04:13 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:04:13 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Wrong url on absolute_url or portal_url
References: <F1416xEfhzL1f6Ykwn9000358da@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E758F8D.40705@nipltd.com>

Michael Havard wrote:
> having a problem getting the absolute_url or portal_url within a CMF
> site.
> 
> We have a framed site that puts a ZOPE CMF site in one frame when
> needed. When the frame is first loaded all the links point to
> "mysite:8200" instead of where the ZOPE instance is being run
> "mysite:8300". If I right click on the zope frame and reload I get
> the correct links but loading it from another frame breaks the link
> reference. Is there another way to get the url?

Sounds like you have some broken Apache rewriting or some such going on...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 09:06:37 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:06:37 +0000
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the following
 ...
References: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <304770000.1047658225@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <3E75901D.9050406@nipltd.com>

Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> I just went with exUserFolder for a similar project.  The alternative 
> would be Chris Withers'
> SimpleUserFolder, but I wanted caching support.

What's wrong with using a RAM cache manager on your SUF methods?

cheers,

Chris - inventing one set of wheels is enough for me...




From sylvain@chatton.dyndns.org  Mon Mar 17 10:37:28 2003
From: sylvain@chatton.dyndns.org (Chatton Sylvain)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:37:28 GMT+1
Subject: [Zope] =?iso-8859-1?Q?File_content_read?=
Message-ID: <200303170937.h2H9bS44008984@0hatton.dyndns.org>

I'm searching the way to read the content of a file (ascii), from a script. The file is stored into a Zope folder.

Thanks in advance,
Sylvain


From mas@semafor.ch  Mon Mar 17 09:58:01 2003
From: mas@semafor.ch (Sorin Marti)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:58:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to read Folders...
Message-ID: <3E759C29.8090202@semafor.ch>

Hi all,

First of all I think the subject isn't very significant. I don't know 
how to call the problem I got so maybe I didn't find anything on google 
or zope.org because of that...

I am using LocalFS and point to a directory in my local Filesystem. 
Users are allowed to upload LaTeX document sources which are compiled 
and stored in this folder. In the Folder (where LocalFS points to, lets 
say its upload_folder) I've got different categories (for example 
upload_folder/technical_documents or upload_folder/howtos or anything else)

The user specifies a category and his document is then stored as a 
subfolder of the specific category-folder (example 
upload_folder/howtos/userhowto)
in this subfolder there is an index.html for the (compiled) TeX-document 
and a folder named 'pdf' for the pdf document.

That's the situation. Now I want a dtml-document which shows the 
uploaded documents in a table for each category like: 
name,link-to-pdf,link-to-html

How can I get these links? I tried around with objectValues but I didn't 
suceed.

Have you any links to good howtos? Is objectValues the right way to do 
that? any advices, hints?

Thanks for helping me.

    Sorin Marti





From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 10:50:14 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:50:14 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Not found unless logged in
References: <F18JUsIriJQg6dH7wpN0003ffc7@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E75A866.3090405@nipltd.com>

Michael Havard wrote:
> I have a document in the CMF that has been published but I cannot use 
> search to find it unless I am logged in. Anonymous users should be able 
> to see that file. How do I correct this?

Might be better to ask on zope-cmf@zope.org. Sounds like some kind of 
permissions problem. Have you customised your workflow at all?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 10:51:52 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:51:52 +0000
Subject: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems
References: <3E725C37.3060506@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E75A8C8.6040105@nipltd.com>

AM wrote:
> Evidently if a user logs in and logs out quickly and repeatedly, one out 
> of four times the login fails even if the password is correct. The next 
> time around though it the login attempt gets through. It happens quite 
> randomly but about 25% of the time, only when a user logs in and logs 
> out and logs back in again within a relatively short interval.

Sounds like something, somewhere is caching the incorrect information for one of 
you Zope threads...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 10:52:57 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:52:57 +0000
Subject: [Zope] record modifier + <select>
References: <3E7261D3.3050904@is.lg.ua>
Message-ID: <3E75A909.2020300@nipltd.com>

Ruslan Spivak wrote:
> Hello, zope users!
> 
> Can anybody tell me how to use record modifier with 
> <select><option></option><select> ?
> I need to pass 3 variables to form handler when user selected something 
> from dropdown list,
> any suggestions how to do that?

I don't understand your question I'm afraid. Perhaps you could include an 
example of the kind of HTML you're trying to generate and the code you have so 
far to do it?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 10:57:58 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:57:58 +0000
Subject: [Zope] local variable
References: <1047799297.1211.8.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <3E75AA36.8050301@nipltd.com>

D. Rick Anderson wrote:
> I've got a python script that sets a variable:
> 
>     notes_eo_counter = 0 
> 
> And then defines a function:
> 
>     def printNotesRow(columns):

Defining functions within functions (which is what you're effectively doing 
here) is pretty ropey. Best to seperate printNotesRow out into a seperate method.

In the meantime, try declaring it like this:

      def printNotesRow(columns):
          global notes_eo_counter


cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 17 10:59:12 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:59:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] How to inherit DTML methods from the web interface
References: <1047839896.6341.10.camel@pc-dt>
Message-ID: <3E75AA80.1000906@nipltd.com>

pieter claassen wrote:
> I want to be able to override methods in my product with web based
> methods (e.g. standard_html_header) created in the Zope web interface.

Look up the replaceable interface and define your methods as being 'replacable' 
in your Python Product.

Squishdot has an example of this in the 'render' method of the SquishSite class...

cheers,

Chris



From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Mon Mar 17 10:55:57 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 17 Mar 2003 10:55:57 +0000
Subject: [Zope] How to call a method on another object in DTML
Message-ID: <1047898557.11112.1.camel@pc-dt>

Hello,

I am trying to render the index_html method of another object in a new
"wrapper" object.

Normally you just do a <dtml-var object> and Zope will find the object.

But what if the object is far away in another hierarchy and I want to
render it (not call its index_html method on my object!)

Thanks,
Pieter
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From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 17 12:19:59 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:19:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to call a method on another object in DTML
In-Reply-To: <1047898557.11112.1.camel@pc-dt>
References: <1047898557.11112.1.camel@pc-dt>
Message-ID: <3E75BD6F.4030902@mxm.dk>

pieter claassen wrote:

>I am trying to render the index_html method of another object in a new
>"wrapper" object.
>
>Normally you just do a <dtml-var object> and Zope will find the object.
>
>But what if the object is far away in another hierarchy and I want to
>render it (not call its index_html method on my object!)
>  
>

It is a bit unclear what you are trying to do. But to get to the object, 
you need a path to it. Just use the first objectManager that they both 
share as the root.

    <dtml-var "path.to.some.object.index_html()">

To give it a new context, you can pass it "this()" as an argument ( a 
"mapping dictionary")

    <dtml-var "path.to.some.object.index_html(this())">

You can even hand it some named parameters also:

    <dtml-var "path.to.some.object.index_html(this(), title_or_id='Some 
New Title')">

The values in the dtml page will be looked up in this order:

named parameters -> mapping dictionary -> the objects original context

regards Max M



From antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com  Mon Mar 17 13:44:51 2003
From: antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com (Antonio Beamud Montero)
Date: 17 Mar 2003 14:44:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Best approach for SOAP
Message-ID: <1047908691.8712.3.camel@lisa.local>

Hi all:
What's the best approach to offer services using SOAP?
I have read about the Petru Paler patch
(http://www.ppetru.net/software/soap-cvs.diff) and about ZSI.
If I go by the way of ZSI, I need to implement an XML-RPC <-> SOAP
gateway?
Can anybody help me?





From bryan.andregg@duke.edu  Mon Mar 17 14:08:49 2003
From: bryan.andregg@duke.edu (Bryan C. Andregg)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:08:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] a login link
In-Reply-To: <15986.21572.8537.858937@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030314135836.GF26096@mc.duke.edu> <15986.21572.8537.858937@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030317140849.GB20263@mc.duke.edu>

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On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:14:28PM +0100, Dieter Maurer mailed:
> Bryan C. Andregg wrote at 2003-3-14 08:58 -0500:
>  > This doesn't work. Or I should say, it half works. If the login is suc=
cessful,
>  > the page is returned but the user object hasn't been updated (has_role=
s()
>  > doesn't work) and subsiquent clicks of the link don't prompt for
>  > authentication.
>=20
> A typical HTTP authentication behaviour:
>=20
>   Login information is automatically send to the subhierarchy
>   rooted in the parent of the object that did require
>   the authentication.

I understand that, but if the client is sending the Login information and i=
t's
valid, then why doesn't Zope return the requested page using the login
information?
--=20
Bryan C. Andregg		Duke University Medical Center
 Programmer			Dept. of Anesthesiology
 e <bryan.andregg@duke.edu>
 p +1 919 684 6201

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From news@pernex.de  Mon Mar 17 14:43:21 2003
From: news@pernex.de (news@pernex.de)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:43:21 +0100
Subject: AW: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
In-Reply-To: <F6DF5F78-57CE-11D7-8A7F-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <000001c2ec93$9222ff70$0f00a8c0@p5ws>

Hi Jens,

chkconfig --list says f=FCr zope 2-3-4-5 on else off.

For me the problem seems to be connected with the fact that I cannot
start zope via=20
service zope start.
The only answer I obtain is=20
env: /etc/init.d/zope: no such file or directory.

Possibly the file zope has wrong permissions. It is executable.
Permissions are -rwsr-xr-x zope zope

The zope start script itself works fine.

Cheers,

Dominik Fischer


-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jens Vagelpohl [mailto:jens@zope.com]=20
Gesendet: Sonntag, 16. M=E4rz 2003 17:47
An: news@pernex.de
Cc: zope@zope.org
Betreff: Re: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process /
Redhat 7.3

after doing the chkconfig --add, have you checked that the script will =20
be run by looking at the output of chkconfig --list? you might have to =20
do a chkconfig --level xyz zope on to set the runlevels.

jens


On Sunday, Mar 16, 2003, at 09:51 US/Eastern, news@pernex.de wrote:

> Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
>
> I am using zope on a redhat 7.3 vserver (server4free.de) machine for =20
> the
> first time. Up to now I have only experiences with zope on suse 8.0
> (zope is preconfigured there).
>
> I am trying to get zope started at boot process.
>  - I installed zope correctly on the machine.
>  - changed all the necessary permissions according to
> http://www.zope.org/Members/markoer2/resources/howtos/=20
> redhat_7.3_startup
> .
>  - the zope startup script starts the zope server correctly
>  - created an init script zope at /etc/rc.d/init.d
>  - registered the zope service with chkconfig --add zope
>
> But nevertheless zope won't startup on boot process.
>
> When I try to invoke zope manually as root by
>  service zope start
> I only get
>  env: /etc/init.d/zope: No such file or directory
>
> I don't' get any further. What did I wrong? Can you help me? Thanx in
> advance.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dominik Fischer



From bryan.andregg@duke.edu  Mon Mar 17 14:57:07 2003
From: bryan.andregg@duke.edu (Bryan C. Andregg)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:57:07 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
In-Reply-To: <000001c2ec93$9222ff70$0f00a8c0@p5ws>
References: <F6DF5F78-57CE-11D7-8A7F-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <000001c2ec93$9222ff70$0f00a8c0@p5ws>
Message-ID: <20030317145707.GF20263@mc.duke.edu>

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On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:43:21PM +0100, news@pernex.de mailed:
> For me the problem seems to be connected with the fact that I cannot
> start zope via=20
> service zope start.
> The only answer I obtain is=20
> env: /etc/init.d/zope: no such file or directory.

This means that something in the zope script isn't where it's expected to b=
e.
Can you send me the script?
--=20
Bryan C. Andregg		Duke University Medical Center
 Programmer			Dept. of Anesthesiology
 e <bryan.andregg@duke.edu>
 p +1 919 684 6201

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From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Mar 17 03:04:37 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:04:37 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] about load_files.py
Message-ID: <20030317030437.53428.qmail@web15211.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!
I try load_files.py to upload htmls on my hard disk.
Try to explain easily, i upload to root
http://localhost:8080/.
But i get :

==============================================

D:\zope\lib\python>python \zope\utilities\load_site.py
-u admin:123 -D http://
localhost:8080 d:\temp\
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "\zope\utilities\load_site.py", line 302, in ?
    if __name__=='__main__': main()
  File "\zope\utilities\load_site.py", line 102, in
main
    for f in files: upload_file(object, f)
  File "\zope\utilities\load_site.py", line 112, in
upload_file
    if os.path.isdir(f): return upload_dir(object, f)
  File "\zope\utilities\load_site.py", line 129, in
upload_dir
    call(object.manage_addFolder, id=name)
  File "\zope\utilities\load_site.py", line 106, in
call
    try: apply(f,args, kw)
  File "D:\zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Client.py", line
155, in __call__
    self.handleError(query, ec, em, headers, response)
  File "D:\zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Client.py", line
170, in handleError
    raise t,
RemoteException(t,v,f,l,self.url,query,ec,em,response)
bci.NotFound: bobo exception (File:
d:\zope\lib\python\OFS\ObjectManager.py Line
: 58)
400 Bad Request for
http://localhost:8080/manage_addFolder

==============================================

Did i miss something?


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From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Mar 17 04:22:09 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:22:09 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] about unit test
Message-ID: <20030317042209.275.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!
I download several products and find some of them own
a "tests" directory. I think there are the files for
unit test. Any guru can show me how to do a unit test
in zope? Maybe you can give me a link to read :)
Thanks!

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From novalet@yahoo.com.cn  Mon Mar 17 07:07:02 2003
From: novalet@yahoo.com.cn (=?gb2312?q?Chen=20Fu?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:07:02 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg editor?
Message-ID: <20030317070702.34448.qmail@web15214.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>

Hi!
I notice the plone_wysiwyg in portal_skins. It seems
the plone has WYSIWYG Editor inside. How to configure
it to make it visible when we cope with Document in
html format? I had install the WYSIWYG Editor before,
but don't know how to cope it in plone.
Any idea?
Thanks


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From jfranks@quik.com  Mon Mar 17 15:06:38 2003
From: jfranks@quik.com (Jeffrey Franks)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:06:38 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Commendation in order for EasySite
Message-ID: <3E75E47E.7030509@quik.com>

Hi fellow Zopists,

I've been playing around with Zope for a while now and have been
road blocked on the actual use of ZPT's, Python scripts, etc. for
creating a well structured web site.

What I really needed was a simple example, which I did not find
until the EasySite announcement was made on the Zope.org web site.
If you are less experienced like me, yet would like to apply Zope
for a live web site, then I would recommend EasySite as a light
weight framework for using Zope.

     http://www.zope.org/Members/beno/HowTo/EasySite

I would like to say that my experience with EasySite has
been very positive. I've learned more about Zope and how
to use it more from EasySite than reading Zope Bible,
all the Zope manuals, etc.

My experience has been successful in my opinion because
of the following:

   * EasySite has been boiled down to just the essentials
     for good design, and easy comprehension

   * It is extensible without jacking with the foundation

   * It is easy to incorporate content from 3rd parties
     and other tools

   * It begs for the less experienced Zope developer to
     get their feet wet, think a lot, be involved in a
     very positive experience, and enjoy what they are
     doing.

Thank you for the opportunity to use EasySite. This is
a great asset to the Zope community in my opinion! I plan
on using it for some commercial websites.

-- 
Jeffrey L. Franks  (web)  http://www.motiftools.org
                    (e-mail) jfranks@quik.com



From dan@control.com  Mon Mar 17 15:21:01 2003
From: dan@control.com (Dan L. Pierson)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:21:01 -0500
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the
 following ...
In-Reply-To: <3E75901D.9050406@nipltd.com>
References: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
 <304770000.1047658225@daystar.control.com> <3E75901D.9050406@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <342820000.1047914461@daystar.control.com>

Hmm, interesting idea.  I never thought of using a RAM cache manager to 
cache user data.  Have
you tried it?

--On Monday, March 17, 2003 09:06:37 AM +0000 Chris Withers 
<chrisw@nipltd.com> wrote:

> Dan L. Pierson wrote:
>> I just went with exUserFolder for a similar project.  The alternative
>> would be Chris Withers'
>> SimpleUserFolder, but I wanted caching support.
>
> What's wrong with using a RAM cache manager on your SUF methods?
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris - inventing one set of wheels is enough for me...
>
>




From casey@zope.com  Mon Mar 17 16:06:12 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:06:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Catalog wierdness?
In-Reply-To: <20030316220127.94B95143CD@flatland.dimensional.com>
References: <20030316220127.94B95143CD@flatland.dimensional.com>
Message-ID: <200303171106.12387.casey@zope.com>

Hi Mark,

There are known bugs in the BTree code in 2.5.1 that could be exposed on =
range=20
seaches. Just to rule this out, can you do a simple isolated test on Zope=
=20
2.6.1 that definitely fails on 2.5.1? If you still see this behavior ther=
e,=20
let me know and I will try to find out what's going on.

-Casey

On Sunday 16 March 2003 05:01 pm, Mark Gibson wrote:
> Using:
>  Zope Version=20
>  (Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3, linux2=
)=20
>  Python Version=20
>  2.1.3 (#1, Apr 22 2002, 16:16:34) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.=
1=20
2.96-85)]=20
>=20
> In the catalog, I have a FieldIndex that contains an integer.
> I want to select all objects where that number is 0 or less.
>=20
> objs=3DCatalog(number_times_sent=3D0 ,number_times_sent_usage=3D'range:=
max' )
>=20
> However, this returns all items, regardless of the value of=20
number_times_sent.
> If an object has number_times_sent to 2, and I do this call:
>=20
> objs=3D Catalog(number_times_sent=3D1 ,number_times_sent_usage=3D'range=
:max' )
>=20
> It works as expected, and that object isn't returned.  Also, when=20
> number_times_sent is 0, the following does work.
>=20
> objs=3D Catalog(number_times_sent=3D0)
>=20
> Since I won't have a negative value, this does what I want. However,
> number_times_sent is variable, so it would be nice if 'range:max' worke=
d for=20
> zero.
>=20
> Is there any logical explanation?  Bug? Am I doing something wrong?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Mark
>=20
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From nhavar@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 16:12:08 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:12:08 +0000
Subject: Wrong server in URL (was: Re: [Zope] (no subject))
Message-ID: <F80RpeVPOEcyhJzqNwi00044265@hotmail.com>

MORE INFO:

Okay we've dug a little deeper into it and are even more confused.

We have three frames TOOLBAR, NAVBAR, WORKSPACE. The content served from 
these frames comes off of a java appserver (servlets). When we click on a 
button in the toolbar it calls the workspace with a URL to a "controller" 
servlet, which parses the request and serves up/redirects to the appropriate 
page. In this instance we are making a request for a ZOPE document. The 
servlet is doing a redirect, we are getting a 302 temporarily moved and then 
recieving the ZOPE content.

The problem at this point is that all of the links within that page are now 
broken with incorrect host. Looking at some of the header information inside 
ZOPE I see that a normal (directly to ZOPE) request
has headers something like

URL0 http://host:8300/Site/index_html
URL1 http://host:8300/Site
URL2 http://host:8300
BASE0 http://host:8300
BASE1 http://host:8300
BASE2 http://host:8300/Site
BASE3 http://host:8300/Site/index_html

SERVER_PORT '8300'
PATH_TRANSLATED '/Site/index_html'
SERVER_NAME 'host'
HTTP_USER_AGENT 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 4.0)'
PATH_INFO '/Site/index_html'
HTTP_HOST 'host:8300'
REQUEST_METHOD 'GET'

and that's fine as it should be on a direct request. But on the redirect the 
information looks like this:

URL0 http://host:8200/Site/index_html
URL1 http://host:8200/Site
URL2 http://host:8200
BASE0 http://host:8200
BASE1 http://host:8200
BASE2 http://host:8200/Site
BASE3 http://host:8200/Site/index_html

SERVER_PORT '8300'
PATH_TRANSLATED '/Site/index_html'
SERVER_NAME 'host'
HTTP_USER_AGENT 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 4.0)'
PATH_INFO '/Site/index_html'
HTTP_HOST 'host:8200'
REQUEST_METHOD 'GET'

In that the SERVER_PORT and SERVER_NAME are correct matching the ZOPE server 
instance. The HTTP_HOST, URLs, and BASEs are incorrect though showing the 
requesting app servers port number.

I'm assuming that ZOPE uses BASE or URL or possibly even HTTP_HOST as the 
basis for building any URLS within the dynamically built pages.

>From: Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de>
>To: "Michael Havard" <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>CC: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Wrong server in URL (was: Re: [Zope] (no subject))
>Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 23:04:24 +0100
>
>You should provide a useful subject....
>
>Michael Havard wrote at 2003-3-13 17:15 +0000:
>  > having a problem getting the absolute_url or portal_url within a CMF 
>site.
>  >
>  > We have a framed site that puts a ZOPE CMF site in one frame when 
>needed.
>  > When the frame is first loaded all the links point to "mysite:8200" 
>instead
>  > of where the ZOPE instance is being run "mysite:8300". If I right click 
>on
>  > the zope frame and reload I get the correct links but loading it from
>  > another frame breaks the link reference. Is there another way to get 
>the
>  > url?
>
>That's really strange, as the server does not know whether the
>request comes from a frame or not....
>
>Are you sure, it is not a caching problem?
>
>You recognize a (HTTP) caching problem by forcing a page
>reload ("reload" maybe with "shift" key pressed)
>and then everything is okay.
>
>
>Dieter
>
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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 17 16:27:49 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:27:49 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5AC@desi2>

I have always created a SearchableTextWeighted method and corresponding
index.  Important textual metadata is printed multiple times, with body text
printed once.  It is a crude way to combine into a single buffer multiple
fields and weight some fields heavier than others (by repeating the field
values).  You could, using this mechanism take a news story lead and
headlines and print them multiple times, with the body of a story being
printed once, which makes searches weight those fields more for purposes of
relevancy.  This is a pretty decent hack, but is a hack nonetheless.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Muldrow [mailto:cmuldrow@fredericksburg.com]
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:44 AM
To: Zope
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource


Right now we've got our main Catalog storing only information about a
Zclass, and it's only got one ZCTextindex--on PrincipiaSearchSource. I'd
like people to be able to search the title AND the PrincipiaSearchSource at
the same time--in other words, have both indexed. Is there a way to index
both in the same ZCTextIndex so I don't have to keep two text indexes and
combine searches into both? I'm thinking of trying to index some sort of
method inside the Zclass that combines the two, but I can't seem to figure
out what that method should look like--how do I say "concatenate title and
data into a single piece of data that can be indexed"?

And now to complicate things even more...
Say I want to mix it up a bit and include pictures in my search. Our
pictures have a property called Cutline that would need to be indexed. Could
we trick the Catalog into also indexing Cutline in the same TextIndex? Or am
I just talking crazy now?

Thanks--Chris


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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 17 16:38:01 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:38:01 -0800
Subject: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems
References: <3E725C37.3060506@neurobs.com> <3E75A8C8.6040105@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E75F9E9.5030509@neurobs.com>

How do I go about tracking it down??

TIA
AM

Chris Withers wrote:

> AM wrote:
>
>> Evidently if a user logs in and logs out quickly and repeatedly, one 
>> out of four times the login fails even if the password is correct. 
>> The next time around though it the login attempt gets through. It 
>> happens quite randomly but about 25% of the time, only when a user 
>> logs in and logs out and logs back in again within a relatively short 
>> interval.
>
>
> Sounds like something, somewhere is caching the incorrect information 
> for one of you Zope threads...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> .
>

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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 17 16:40:48 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:40:48 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Make Zope 2.6.1 error log persistent
Message-ID: <3E75FA90.5070301@neurobs.com>

Is there any way that I can make the error log persistent across 
restarts. Oftentimes the most important information about what page 
caused it to hang or sleep is lost and one has to wade through the log 
files to track it.

TIA
AM

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From yuba@cyberback.com  Mon Mar 17 16:39:59 2003
From: yuba@cyberback.com (Greg & Janet LINDSTROM)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:39:59 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Formatting Forms
Message-ID: <000801c2eca3$da5c4660$f8ffa8c0@lindstrom>

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as well as line fields up vertically and horizontally.  Ideally, I'd =
like reference documentation with examples.

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 17 16:46:06 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:46:06 -0800
Subject: [Zope] what advantage does zope has over apache (help)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303162230460.101828-100000@stats.arches.ug
 a.edu>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030317083147.023a70d8@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus>

Apache's strength is that it serves static content reliably and at high 
volumes.  It is also quite good at handing off requests to other 
systems.  By itself, Apache doesn't really have any programming 
framework... though you can certainly load in stuff like PHP.

If you think about Apache that way, Zope isn't really a replacement for 
Apache.  Think of Zope as a replacement for PHP/ASP/JSP.  Zope is a 
full-featured app framework, as opposed to a file-oriented scripting 
language.  Zope is highly object oriented and provides security that is 
strong, flexible *and* intuitive.  And you can program it in Python, which 
is its own reward. :-)

Though it's possible to run Zope *instead* of Apache, it's quite common to 
run Apache as a reverse proxy for Zope.  Both systems can serve HTTP 
requests, but they really aren't in competition with each other.  I'd 
encourage you to look at Zope knowing that you will still be able to 
leverage your knowledge of Apache.

HTH,

Dylan


At 07:33 PM 3/16/2003, Jianping Zhu wrote:

>I am prtty good in apache, but have a little bot knowlege about zope.
>Can somebody tell me what advantabes does zope have over apache. or point
>to me some article comparing zope to apache?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>--------------------------------
>Jianping Zhu
>Department of Computer Science
>Univerity of Georgia
>Athens, GA 30602
>Tel 706 5423900
>--------------------------------
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 17 16:46:20 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:46:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Formatting Forms
In-Reply-To: <000801c2eca3$da5c4660$f8ffa8c0@lindstrom>
References: <000801c2eca3$da5c4660$f8ffa8c0@lindstrom>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047923180@[192.168.0.2]>

This is basically a HTML question. I suggest to refer to a HTML tutorial or =

HTML docs.

-aj

--On Montag, 17. M=E4rz 2003 10:39 Uhr -0600 Greg & Janet LINDSTROM=20
<yuba@cyberback.com> wrote:

>
> Hi, All-
> What resources are available to help me learn to format forms using dtml?
> I'd like to group certain fields together (Name, Address, etc.), as well
> as line fields up vertically and horizontally.  Ideally, I'd like
> reference documentation with examples.
> Thanks!
> --greg






From list@zettai.net  Mon Mar 17 16:56:54 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:56:54 -0500
Subject: [Zope] what advantage does zope has over apache (help)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303162230460.101828-100000@stats.arches.uga.edu>
Message-ID: <BA9B6886.22B5E%list@zettai.net>

[Jianping Zhu wrote (zjp@arches.uga.edu) on 3/16/03 10:33 PM]

> I am prtty good in apache, but have a little bot knowlege about zope.
> Can somebody tell me what advantabes does zope have over apache. or point
> to me some article comparing zope to apache?

Apache and Zope are complementary applications in a sense. apache is good at
serving static content fast and can cache and handle complex configurations.
Add php, perl mysql etc to Apache and you have a good web application
development environment.

Zope, on the other hand, is a complete application server that serves
dynamic content fast and makes it easier to develop complex applications
quickly.

Many people run Zope and Apache together.

hth

<-->
george donnelly - http://www.zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :)
Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - MSN: zettainet@hotmail.com - ICQ: 51907738



From joejoe99@softhome.net  Mon Mar 17 04:59:34 2003
From: joejoe99@softhome.net (joejoe)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 23:59:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope/Plone/Squid Install
Message-ID: <BA9ABEBE.28A%joejoe99@softhome.net>

Hello -

I am looking for an experienced Zope programmer who is familiar with using
Squid. I would like to set up a Plone site on a dedicated FreeBSD 4.7
server. The main concern is that Zope will not crash after a certain period
of time, and that the site be optimized for heavy traffic - i.e., upwards of
10,000 users a day. I have the server - I will give you ssh access.

Please send an email with your bid amount. Amounts over $200, please do not
reply.

Thanks much --- 

Hans (joejoe99@softhome.net)



From renfro@tntech.edu  Mon Mar 17 17:04:05 2003
From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:04:05 -0600
Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg editor?
In-Reply-To: <20030317070702.34448.qmail@web15214.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030317070702.34448.qmail@web15214.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20030317170405.GA22619@ch208h>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:07:02PM +0800, Chen Fu wrote:

> I notice the plone_wysiwyg in portal_skins. It seems the plone has
> WYSIWYG Editor inside. How to configure it to make it visible when
> we cope with Document in html format? I had install the WYSIWYG
> Editor before, but don't know how to cope it in plone.  Any idea?

I've downloaded CMFVisualEditor from sf.net/projects/collective/ and
used it in Plone. I don't recall there being any problems with the
install. I think all I had to do was unpack it in my Products
directory, make an external method pointing to module
'CMFVisualEditor.Install' method 'install', then test the method to do
the final installation.

-- 
Mike Renfro  / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research,
931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu


From carsten.tannert@hp.com  Mon Mar 17 17:11:21 2003
From: carsten.tannert@hp.com (TANNERT,CARSTEN (HP-Germany,ex1))
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:11:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
Message-ID: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>

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Hi everybody,

 

I really have a big problem with the IIS Integration of Zope, and I am
really going nuts with this.

I use the IIS and Zope and want Zope to work behind IIS. (Win NT System)

 

I created a Virtual Host Monster and tried every possibilty in IIS to
rewrite incoming URLs but I really don't know

what I am doing wrong.

 

Can anybody help me, who had the same problem and solved it? 

 

Thanks in advance...

Carsten


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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
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of Zope, and I am really going nuts with this.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I use the IIS and Zope and want Zope to work behind
IIS. (Win NT System)</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I created a Virtual Host Monster and tried every
possibilty in IIS to rewrite incoming URLs but I really don't know</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Can anybody help me, who had the same problem and
solved it? </span></font></p>

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From andy@agmweb.ca  Mon Mar 17 17:29:08 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:29:08 -0800
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
In-Reply-To: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>
References: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>
Message-ID: <3E7605E4.4090602@agmweb.ca>

> I created a Virtual Host Monster and tried every possibilty in IIS to 
> rewrite incoming URLs but I really don't know
> 
> what I am doing wrong.
> 
> Can anybody help me, who had the same problem and solved it?

Have you seen this: http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ASP404 or 
http://www.zope.org/Members/hiperlogica/ASP404


Cheers
-- 
   Andy McKay



From antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com  Mon Mar 17 17:31:40 2003
From: antonio.beamud@agora-2000.com (Antonio Beamud Montero)
Date: 17 Mar 2003 18:31:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Best approach for SOAP
In-Reply-To: <1047908691.8712.3.camel@lisa.local>
References: <1047908691.8712.3.camel@lisa.local>
Message-ID: <1047922300.8713.14.camel@lisa.local>

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Hi again:
I have fixed the Petru Paler patch. I have tested it on Zope-2.5.0.
and works fine...
My patch is attached.
If someone test this patch with zope-2.6, please notify me.

Bye.

----------
Antonio Beamud Montero <antonio.beamud@wanadoo.es>


El lun, 17 de 03 de 2003 a las 14:44, Antonio Beamud Montero escribis:
> Hi all:
> What's the best approach to offer services using SOAP?
> I have read about the Petru Paler patch
> (http://www.ppetru.net/software/soap-cvs.diff) and about ZSI.
> If I go by the way of ZSI, I need to implement an XML-RPC <-> SOAP
> gateway?
> Can anybody help me?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
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+++ zope-mod/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPRequest.py	Mon Mar 17 18:20:43 2003
@@ -21,6 +21,7 @@
 from Converters import get_converter
 from maybe_lock import allocate_lock
 xmlrpc=None # Placeholder for module that we'll import if we have to.
+soap=None
 
 #cgi hotfix:
 if not hasattr(cgi, 'valid_boundary'):
@@ -347,18 +348,28 @@
         meth=None
         fs=FieldStorage(fp=fp,environ=environ,keep_blank_values=1)
         if not hasattr(fs,'list') or fs.list is None:
-            # Hm, maybe it's an XML-RPC
-            if (fs.headers.has_key('content-type') and
-                fs.headers['content-type'] == 'text/xml' and
+            # Hm, maybe it's an XML-RPC or SOAP
+	    if (fs.headers.has_key('content-type') and
+                fs.headers['content-type'][:8] == 'text/xml' and
                 method == 'POST'):
-                # Ye haaa, XML-RPC!
-                global xmlrpc
-                if xmlrpc is None: import xmlrpc
-                meth, self.args = xmlrpc.parse_input(fs.value)
-                response=xmlrpc.response(response)
-                other['RESPONSE']=self.response=response
-                other['REQUEST_METHOD']='' # We don't want index_html!
-                self.maybe_webdav_client = 0
+              if environ.has_key('HTTP_SOAPACTION'):
+                  # this is a SOAP request
+                  global soap
+                  if soap is None:
+                          import soap
+                  meth, self.args = soap.parse_input(fs.value)
+                  response = soap.response(response)
+                  other['RESPONSE'] = self.response = response
+                  other['REQUEST_METHOD'] = ''
+              else:
+	          # Ye haaa, XML-RPC!
+	          global xmlrpc
+	          if xmlrpc is None: import xmlrpc
+	          meth, self.args = xmlrpc.parse_input(fs.value)
+	          response=xmlrpc.response(response)
+	          other['RESPONSE']=self.response=response
+	          other['REQUEST_METHOD']='' # We don't want index_html!
+                  self.maybe_webdav_client = 0
             else:
                 self._file=fs.file
         else:
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From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 17:44:39 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:44:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
Message-ID: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net>

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my users need to publish files from the local filesystem, which
change very frequently and automatically. moreover, these files are
in the users' homedirectories, so an external filesystem view
doesn't work since it is confined to $ZOPEROOT. in addition, there
are many new such files a day, so maintaining symlinks under
$ZOPEROOT is also not an option.

how can i accomplish this?

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
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"if they can get you asking the wrong questions,
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From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 17:46:49 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:46:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] pulling from another website
Message-ID: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>

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is there an easy way within Zope to pull data straight from a given
URL and serve is in the context of the DTML document or ZPT file? so
when a user browses a particular page on my site, Zope plays reverse
proxy to obtain the information from another site, then displays it
as if it were local. sounds like plagiarism but it won't be. it's
related to my question of how to let users publish frequently
changing files.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
this site has moved.
we'd tell you where, but then
we'd have to delete you.

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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 17 17:50:36 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:50:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]>

What about synchronizing Zope and the local folders
through FTP? E.g. sitecopy would do the job.

-aj

--On Montag, 17. M=E4rz 2003 18:44 Uhr +0100 martin f krafft=20
<madduck@madduck.net> wrote:

> my users need to publish files from the local filesystem, which
> change very frequently and automatically. moreover, these files are
> in the users' homedirectories, so an external filesystem view
> doesn't work since it is confined to $ZOPEROOT. in addition, there
> are many new such files a day, so maintaining symlinks under
> $ZOPEROOT is also not an option.
>
> how can i accomplish this?
>
> --
> martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
>   \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
>
> keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
> get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
>
> "if they can get you asking the wrong questions,
>  they don't have to worry about answers."
>                                  -- thomas pynchon (gravity's rainbow)






From renfro@tntech.edu  Mon Mar 17 17:55:29 2003
From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:55:29 -0600
Subject: [Zope] pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:46:49PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:

> is there an easy way within Zope to pull data straight from a given
> URL and serve is in the context of the DTML document or ZPT file? so
> when a user browses a particular page on my site, Zope plays reverse
> proxy to obtain the information from another site, then displays it
> as if it were local.

http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/HTTPMounter might do it, if a
LocalFS-type solution is what you need.


-- 
Mike Renfro  / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research,
931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu


From bz@bwanazulia.com  Mon Mar 17 18:03:17 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:03:17 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd
In-Reply-To: <3E758EA7.3070708@nipltd.com>
References: <785B2E8E-541C-11D7-BD16-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
 <3E708572.6090603@nipltd.com>
 <49375.199.67.140.20.1047568585.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <3E758EA7.3070708@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <60775.199.67.138.20.1047924197.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Hey Chris,

I will give 2.6.1 a shot. Are you saying that I should not get any NEW
errors or that THIS error would be fixed? I have tried a ton of things and
not been able to isolate or delete this problem.

BZ

> BZ wrote:
>> Zope Version  (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86),
>> python
>> 2.1.3, linux2)
>> Python Version  2.1.3 (#1, Apr 15 2002, 11:13:45) [GCC 2.7.2.3]
>
> Moving to 2.6.1 will likely solve this...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 18:00:21 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:00:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> [2003.03.17.1850 +0100]:
> What about synchronizing Zope and the local folders
> through FTP? E.g. sitecopy would do the job.

not a bad idea, except that this would require the passwords in
config files, since no user is going to be willing to enter his
password again on every change of the file. in fact, if i have the
users do push synchronisation, they are likely going to forget.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
"i dislike arguments of any kind. they are always vulgar, and often
 convincing."
                                                        -- oscar wilde

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From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 17 18:02:37 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:02:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] xml-rpc illegal characters
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0A0@email1.mitretek.org>

[Ed Colmar]

> So you are using the illegal characters in your strings, and want to
> preserve them?
>=20
> I really don't need to, most of my data is just users being cute.
>=20
> So far I've found that these characters are off limits:
>=20
> "
> '
> <
> >
> &
>=20
>=20
> Anyone found any others?
>=20

With xml-rpc you are talking xml, so of the control characters below
SPACE, only 9 (TAB),  10 (NL), and  13 (CR) are allowed.

Cheers,

Tom P


From zope@zope.org  Mon Mar 17 18:12:11 2003
From: zope@zope.org (Philip Kilner)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:12:11 GMT
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
In-Reply-To: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>
References: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>
Message-ID: <VA.00000959.00c49099@xfr.co.uk>

Hi Carsten,

In article 
<D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>, CARSTEN 
(HP-Germany,ex1) TANNERT wrote:
> Can anybody help me, who had the same problem and solved it?
>

FWIW, I put both Zope /and/ IIS (in parallel, for wholly seperate 
purposes) behind Apache: -
- IIS is bound to a private IP.
- Zope is bound to a (Different) private IP.
- Apache Rewrite hands the public face.
- Header Translation hadles sites in IIS.
- VHM handles sites in Zope.

Not sure if this works if you have to do proprietary authentication in 
IIS through Apache - I didn't have the need. Of course, if I hadn't 
needed IIS for other stuff, I'd have junked it and gone 100% Apache.

Regards,

PhilK

Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:56 GMT  @ Vaio

Email: phil@xfr.co.uk / Voicemail & Facsimile: 07092 070518

Tell me and I forget.
Show me and I remember.
Involve me and I understand.
 - Chinese saying





From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar 17 18:10:55 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:10:55 -0500
Subject: [Zope] pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <20030317181055.GB1430@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 06:46:49PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> is there an easy way within Zope to pull data straight from a given
> URL and serve is in the context of the DTML document or ZPT file?

You might look at KebasData.


-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's GARBAGE MAN BUSTER!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 18:02:25 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:02:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net> <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h>
Message-ID: <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Mike Renfro <renfro@tntech.edu> [2003.03.17.1855 +0100]:
> http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/HTTPMounter might do it, if a
> LocalFS-type solution is what you need.

unfortunately, this won't cut it. i don't want to serve a remote
file, i want to include the remote contents in a file that i serve
locally. sorry for not having been quite clear.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
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end up in my inbox without much interaction, you are agreeing that:
       =20
  - i am by definition, "the intended recipient"
  - all information in the email is mine to do with as i see fit and
    make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it
    lends itself to. in particular, i may quote it on usenet.
  - i may take the contents as representing the views of your company.
  - this overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that
    may be included on your message.

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From muldrow@mac.com  Mon Mar 17 18:17:17 2003
From: muldrow@mac.com (Chris Muldrow)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:17:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource
In-Reply-To: <20030316193845.GB865@thomas-guettler.de>
Message-ID: <BA9B7B5D.ADEA%muldrow@mac.com>

When I try this, it doesn't actually index the data for the search
source--I've tried both PrincipiaSearchSource and document_src--but it does
this: 
<bound method FLSNewsStory.document_src of <FLSNewsStory at
/News/FLS/2003/032003/03172003/france>> France calls emergency U.N. meeting
on Iraq's peaceful disarmament, ignoring U.S. deadline

> 
> def PrincipiaSearchSource(self):
> return "%s %s %s" % (self.oldPrincipiaSearchSource, self.title, self.Cutline)
> 
> BTW, according to the general style guide attributes should be written
> with lower case. (*C*utline)
> 
> thomas
> 
> --
> Thomas Guettler <guettli@thomas-guettler.de>
> http://www.thomas-guettler.de
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 



From mrroach@cimplify.net  Mon Mar 17 18:28:28 2003
From: mrroach@cimplify.net (Roach, Mark R.)
Date: 17 Mar 2003 13:28:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Performance problem with zpscopgda
Message-ID: <1047925708.10802.808.camel@flmrroach>

I am having a performance problem on my site that from what I can tell
(using CallProfiler) is related to a database query that returns about
600 rows. 

+0.2430   3.3720   74.8%  | | | +- buildSelect   
+0.2474   0.0434   1.0%   | | | | +- fetchSelectData   
+0.2534   0.0016   0.0%   | | | | | +- buildSelectQuery
          0.0375   0.8%   | | | | | |
          3.3676   74.7%  | | | | |

It is a very simple query, it only fetches two columns from a single
table. Is it normal for this to take over three seconds (less than one
second from php+pear)? I have enabled caching up to 650 records for 30
seconds, but this doesn't seem to make any difference.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can improve this?

Thanks,

Mark Roach



From ruger@comnett.net  Mon Mar 17 18:39:54 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:39:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] pulling from another website
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <3E76167A.8020402@comnett.net>

check out this:

http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZClientMethod

HTH

Rick


martin f krafft wrote:

>is there an easy way within Zope to pull data straight from a given
>URL and serve is in the context of the DTML document or ZPT file? so
>when a user browses a particular page on my site, Zope plays reverse
>proxy to obtain the information from another site, then displays it
>as if it were local. sounds like plagiarism but it won't be. it's
>related to my question of how to let users publish frequently
>changing files.
>
>  
>




From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Mon Mar 17 18:47:17 2003
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:47:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net> <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h> <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch>

hi martin

a little python program (on the filesystem) that uses urllib2 is probably what 
you want to do. i see a python product or or an external method showing up in 
your life very soon ;-)

take care

gidon

martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Mike Renfro <renfro@tntech.edu> [2003.03.17.1855 +0100]:
> 
>>http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/HTTPMounter might do it, if a
>>LocalFS-type solution is what you need.
> 
> 
> unfortunately, this won't cut it. i don't want to serve a remote
> file, i want to include the remote contents in a file that i serve
> locally. sorry for not having been quite clear.
> 




From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Mon Mar 17 18:55:32 2003
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:55:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]> <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch>

as an alternative: do it the otherway round. you useres store files in your 
ZODB with WebDAV. with unix-based clients (what i expect in  your case) that 
works cool.

but i don't quite understand why you don't use LocalFS, it should be possible 
one way or the other.

take care

gidon

martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> [2003.03.17.1850 +0100]:
> 
>>What about synchronizing Zope and the local folders
>>through FTP? E.g. sitecopy would do the job.
> 
> 
> not a bad idea, except that this would require the passwords in
> config files, since no user is going to be willing to enter his
> password again on every change of the file. in fact, if i have the
> users do push synchronisation, they are likely going to forget.
> 




From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 17 19:02:43 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:02:43 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: pulling from another website
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0C8@email1.mitretek.org>

[martin f krafft]
>=20
> also sprach Mike Renfro <renfro@tntech.edu> [2003.03.17.1855 +0100]:
> > http://www.zope.org/Members/ajung/HTTPMounter might do it, if a
> > LocalFS-type solution is what you need.
>=20
> unfortunately, this won't cut it. i don't want to serve a remote
> file, i want to include the remote contents in a file that i serve
> locally. sorry for not having been quite clear.
>=20

Simplest is to put it into a frame or IFrame, by means of a bit of
javascript called by an onLoad event.

Cheers,

Tom P


From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 17 19:05:47 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:05:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: pulling from another website
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0CB@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Gidon Friedman]

> a little python program (on the filesystem) that uses urllib2=20
> is probably what=20
> you want to do. i see a python product or or an external=20
> method showing up in=20
> your life very soon ;-)
>=20

Remember that you do NOT want to include an entire HTML page inside your
page.  that would give you multiple head and body elements, as well as -
perhaps - multiple DOCTYPE declarations.

So once you retrieve the remote page (I assume it is an HTML page, but
of course it might be something else), the chances are that you will
have to do some degree of processing on it.

That is one reason why the frame alternative is attractive (see my
previous post).

Cheers,

Tom P


From casey@zope.com  Mon Mar 17 19:18:42 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:18:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Yet another Zcatalog question--PrincipiaSearchSource
In-Reply-To: <BA9B7B5D.ADEA%muldrow@mac.com>
References: <BA9B7B5D.ADEA%muldrow@mac.com>
Message-ID: <200303171418.42107.casey@zope.com>

PrincipiaSearchSource is a callable method. Instead try:

return "%s %s %s" % (self.PrincipiaSearchSource(), self.title, self.Cutli=
ne)

hth,

-Casey

On Monday 17 March 2003 01:17 pm, Chris Muldrow wrote:
> When I try this, it doesn't actually index the data for the search
> source--I've tried both PrincipiaSearchSource and document_src--but it =
does
> this:=20
> <bound method FLSNewsStory.document_src of <FLSNewsStory at
> /News/FLS/2003/032003/03172003/france>> France calls emergency U.N. mee=
ting
> on Iraq's peaceful disarmament, ignoring U.S. deadline
>=20
> >=20
> > def PrincipiaSearchSource(self):
> > return "%s %s %s" % (self.oldPrincipiaSearchSource, self.title,=20
self.Cutline)
> >=20
> > BTW, according to the general style guide attributes should be writte=
n
> > with lower case. (*C*utline)
> >=20
> > thomas



From zjp@arches.uga.edu  Mon Mar 17 19:17:38 2003
From: zjp@arches.uga.edu (Jianping Zhu)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:17:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] can zope handle jsp serlet or perl scipt?
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303171415430.33588-100000@stats.arches.uga.edu>

Can zope handle jsp, servlet like apache+tomcat?

can i hand perl cgi script?
 


--------------------------------
Jianping Zhu
Department of Computer Science
Univerity of Georgia 
Athens, GA 30602
Tel 706 5423900
--------------------------------



From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 19:37:43 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:37:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <3E76167A.8020402@comnett.net> <20030317181055.GB1430@slinkp.com> <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch> <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net> <20030317181055.GB1430@slinkp.com> <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net> <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h> <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch> <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]> <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch>
Message-ID: <20030317193743.GA31943@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Gidon Friedman <tempnospam1@friedman.ch> [2003.03.17.1955 +0100=
]:
> as an alternative: do it the otherway round. you useres store files in yo=
ur=20
> ZODB with WebDAV. with unix-based clients (what i expect in  your case)=
=20
> that works cool.

as said... there's a problem with passwords. either the users are
going to scream as they have to enter the password every time they
change the file, or they'll store it in a local config, thereby
compromising security.

> but i don't quite understand why you don't use LocalFS, it should be=20
> possible one way or the other.

does zope 2.5 do LocalFS? the main reason i don't do it is=20
because i'd prefer to stay with Debian, and Debian does not have it
included AFAICT.

also sprach Paul Winkler <pw_lists@slinkp.com> [2003.03.17.1910 +0100]:
> You might look at KebasData.

cool. this is pretty much exactly what i was looking for.

=2E.. but...

> http://www.zope.org/Members/lstaffor/ZClientMethod

this makes for much better integration with DTML and ZPT scripts.

thanks, the problem is solved, I am using ZClientMethod.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
"alas, i am dying beyond my means."
                                                        -- oscar wilde

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From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 19:38:40 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:38:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0C8@email1.mitretek.org>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0C8@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <20030317193840.GB31943@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org> [2003.03.17.2002 +0100]:
> Simplest is to put it into a frame or IFrame, by means of a bit of
> javascript called by an onLoad event.

javascript is evil. moreover, this won't work if someone browses the
site with e.g. lynx.

i don't believe in anything-client-side.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
"there are two major products that come out of berkeley: lsd and unix."
 one caused me an addiction
                                                             -- fyodor

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From news@pernex.de  Mon Mar 17 19:42:58 2003
From: news@pernex.de (news@pernex.de)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:42:58 +0100
Subject: AW: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
In-Reply-To: <20030317145707.GF20263@mc.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <000a01c2ecbd$6b5f7fb0$0f00a8c0@p5ws>

Hallo Bryan,

I just put the scripts in here. Just checked all the file locations.
They seem to be ok. However I did not find=20

zProcessManager.pid and
zwatchdog.pid

on my running Zope which I started manually. I commented them out on my
system.


Thanks a lot!



Dominik Fischer

---------------------------------------------
Zope script in /etc/rc.d/init.d

#!/bin/bash
#
#       /etc/rc.d/init.d/zope
#
# Starts the zope daemon - by Markoer
#
# chkconfig: 2345 72 72
# description: zope is a web server specifically for handling \
#              HTTP requests to the Zope web-application service.
# processname: zope
#
# Source function library.

. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions

case "$1" in

  start)
        # Check if zope is already running
        if [ ! -f /var/lock/subsys/zope ]; then
            echo -n 'Starting zope daemon: '
            /usr/local/zope/261/start 2> /dev/null
            while : ; do
                [ -f /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid ] && break
                sleep 1 && echo -n "."
            done

            cat /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid > /var/lock/subsys/zope
            touch /var/lock/subsys/zope
            cat /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid > /var/run/zope/zope.pid
            touch /var/run/zope/zope.pid
        fi

        echo_success

        echo
        ;;

  stop)
        echo -n 'Stopping zope daemon: '

        [ -f /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid ] && kill `cat
/usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid`
        rm -f /var/lock/subsys/zope
        rm -f /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid
        rm -f /usr/local/zope/261/var/Data.fs.lock
        rm -f /usr/local/zope/261/var/zProcessManager.pid
        rm -f /var/run/zope/zope.pid
        rm -f /var/run/zope/pcgi.pid
        rm -f /var/run/zope/pcgi.soc
        rm -f /var/run/zope/zwatchdog.pid
        echo_success
        echo
        ;;

  reload|restart)

        $0 stop

        $0 start
        ;;

  status)
        if [ -f /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid ]; then
                cat /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid >
/var/lock/subsys/zope
                touch /var/lock/subsys/zope
                cat /usr/local/zope/261/var/Z2.pid >
/var/run/zope/zope.pid
                touch /var/run/zope/zope.pid
                echo "zope (pid `head -1 /var/run/zope/zope.pid`) is
running..."
        fi
        ;;
  *)
        echo "Usage: service zope {start|stop|restart|reload|status}"
        exit 1
esac
exit 0

---------------------------------------------
ZServer startup script in /usr/local/zope/261/

#!/bin/sh
umask 077
reldir=3D`dirname $0`
cwd=3D`cd $reldir; pwd`
# Zope's event logger is controlled by the "EVENT_LOG_FILE" environment
# variable.  If you don't have a "EVENT_LOG_FILE" environment variable
# (or its older alias "STUPID_LOG_FILE") set, Zope will log to the
standard
# output.  For more information on EVENT_LOG_FILE, see
doc/ENVIRONMENT.txt.
ZLOGFILE=3D$EVENT_LOG_FILE
if [ -z "$ZLOGFILE" ]; then
        ZLOGFILE=3D$STUPID_LOG_FILE
fi
if [ -z "$ZLOGFILE" ]; then
        EVENT_LOG_FILE=3D""
        export EVENT_LOG_FILE
fi
exec /usr/local/zope/261/bin/python $cwd/z2.py -D -u root "$@"


-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bryan C. Andregg [mailto:bryan.andregg@duke.edu]=20
Gesendet: Montag, 17. M=E4rz 2003 15:57
An: news@pernex.de
Cc: 'Jens Vagelpohl'; zope@zope.org
Betreff: Re: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process /
Redhat 7.3

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:43:21PM +0100, news@pernex.de mailed:
> For me the problem seems to be connected with the fact that I cannot
> start zope via=20
> service zope start.
> The only answer I obtain is=20
> env: /etc/init.d/zope: no such file or directory.

This means that something in the zope script isn't where it's expected
to be.
Can you send me the script?
--=20
Bryan C. Andregg		Duke University Medical Center
 Programmer			Dept. of Anesthesiology
 e <bryan.andregg@duke.edu>
 p +1 919 684 6201



From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Mon Mar 17 19:50:09 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:50:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317193840.GB31943@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0C8@email1.mitretek.org>
 <20030317193840.GB31943@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <9916088233.20030317205009@elvix.com>

On  Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:38:40 +0100 GMT (..20:38 where i live(GMT+1) )
martin f krafft asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
mfk> also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org> [2003.03.17.2002 +010=
0]:
>> Simplest is to put it into a frame or IFrame, by means of a bit of
>> javascript called by an onLoad event.

- there is no need to use javascript in this case, Iframes work
perfectly fine without...

mfk> javascript is evil. moreover, this won't work if someone browses the
mfk> site with e.g. lynx.

Javascript is perfectly fine if you only use it to add onto what is
usable without, and make sure you clean after yourself ;)
Just use the right tools for the right job...

mfk> i don't believe in anything-client-side.
lilke HTML ?

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 19:54:33 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:54:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <9916088233.20030317205009@elvix.com>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0C8@email1.mitretek.org> <20030317193840.GB31943@diamond.madduck.net> <9916088233.20030317205009@elvix.com>
Message-ID: <20030317195433.GA31599@diamond.madduck.net>

--J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

also sprach Geir B=E6kholt <lists@elvix.com> [2003.03.17.2050 +0100]:
> - there is no need to use javascript in this case, Iframes work
> perfectly fine without...

how supported are iframes? from all i know about them is that most
every security-conscious browser has them disabled, thanks to the
clowns in redmond.

> Javascript is perfectly fine if you only use it to add onto what is
> usable without, and make sure you clean after yourself ;)

exactly.

> mfk> i don't believe in anything-client-side.
> lilke HTML ?

no, see above. HTML is made to be formatted on the client side,
especially with CSS coming in. i don't care *how* a user sees my
site(s) as long as the information is there.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
if billy gates had a penny for every time,
a windoze box crashed...
oh, wait a minute -- he already does.

--J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf
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hTpS3W7X2+xbQppsPJyU6MM=
=h1+9
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf--


From madduck@madduck.net  Mon Mar 17 19:39:25 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:39:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0CB@email1.mitretek.org>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0CB@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <20030317193925.GC31943@diamond.madduck.net>

--WplhKdTI2c8ulnbP
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org> [2003.03.17.2005 +0100]:
> Remember that you do NOT want to include an entire HTML page inside your
> page.  that would give you multiple head and body elements, as well as -
> perhaps - multiple DOCTYPE declarations.

the documents i am pulling are text/plain, but thanks for the
advice.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc
=20
micro$oft could shit in a box, and most people would buy it.

--WplhKdTI2c8ulnbP
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HBIOYmz6fnkczeOGHZBTRHA=
=LnL/
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--WplhKdTI2c8ulnbP--


From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Mon Mar 17 20:09:38 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:09:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317195433.GA31599@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0C8@email1.mitretek.org>
 <20030317193840.GB31943@diamond.madduck.net>
 <9916088233.20030317205009@elvix.com>
 <20030317195433.GA31599@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <5317256733.20030317210938@elvix.com>

On  Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:54:33 +0100 GMT (..20:54 where i live(GMT+1) )
martin f krafft asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:

mfk> how supported are iframes? from all i know about them is that most
mfk> every security-conscious browser has them disabled, thanks to the
mfk> clowns in redmond.

don't work in that horrid NN4-thing, but almost everything after that
should be ok. The problem from Redmond isn't with the iframes itself,
but with the silly concept of launching local applications within
them...
There is a common misconception that they are some ugly MS-hack, but
they are in the W3 specs for HTML4.0 at least.

There might be the same security restrictions as on normal frames when
framing other hosts/domeins, though.. - settable locally

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From volker.wend@efgbsh.de  Mon Mar 17 20:13:29 2003
From: volker.wend@efgbsh.de (volker.wend@efgbsh.de)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:13:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
Message-ID: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D61@kommserver1>

Hi Carsten,

using Zope behind IIS is not a problem at all. You have several options:

- use URL rewriting in IIS 
- use the 404 script 
- use an apache server in front of iis and zope
- ....

Just search on www.zope.org for IIS + Zope or "Zope behind IIS"

Volker




-----Original Message-----
From: TANNERT,CARSTEN (HP-Germany,ex1) [mailto:carsten.tannert@hp.com] 
Sent: Montag, 17. März 2003 18:11
To: Zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster


Hi everybody,

I really have a big problem with the IIS Integration of Zope, and I am
really going nuts with this.
I use the IIS and Zope and want Zope to work behind IIS. (Win NT System)

I created a Virtual Host Monster and tried every possibilty in IIS to
rewrite incoming URLs but I really don't know
what I am doing wrong.

Can anybody help me, who had the same problem and solved it? 

Thanks in advance...
Carsten


From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 17 20:09:00 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:09:00 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C0FE@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Geir B=E6kholt]
>=20
> On  Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:38:40 +0100 GMT (..20:38 where i live(GMT+1) )
> martin f krafft asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
>  =20
> mfk> also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org>=20
> [2003.03.17.2002 +0100]:
> >> Simplest is to put it into a frame or IFrame, by means of a bit of
> >> javascript called by an onLoad event.
>=20
> - there is no need to use javascript in this case, Iframes work
> perfectly fine without...
>=20

Agreed.  I meant to say that you need javascript with ordinary frames, =
not with IFrames.  Actually, even with frames you could get away without =
javascript but then you would have to produce both a frameset and one or =
more frames, which would be harder.

Cheers,

Tom P


From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 17 20:13:02 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:13:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C101@email1.mitretek.org>

[ martin f krafft]

> also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org>=20
> [2003.03.17.2002 +0100]:
> > Simplest is to put it into a frame or IFrame, by means of a bit of
> > javascript called by an onLoad event.
>=20
> javascript is evil. moreover, this won't work if someone browses the
> site with e.g. lynx.
>=20

I do not agree about javascript being evil - depends on how you use it,
of course.  lynx will not work for any web site that has graphics or
anything else, so this would limit your use of other sites quite a bit.
Is that your intention?

Anyway, lynx does not support IFrames, does it?  So supporting lynx
would rule out any frame-based apporaches.  Of course, some people think
frames are evil, as well, and probably with more justification.

> i don't believe in anything-client-side.

Thin client, thick head? (Sorry, couldn't resist, meant no offense).

Cheers,

Tom P



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar 17 20:09:45 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:09:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] can zope handle jsp serlet or perl scipt?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303171415430.33588-100000@stats.arches.uga.edu>
References: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303171415430.33588-100000@stats.arches.uga.edu>
Message-ID: <20030317200944.GC1879@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:17:38PM -0500, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> 
> Can zope handle jsp, servlet like apache+tomcat?

no. zope doesn't use java.

> can i hand perl cgi script?

not exactly, and not out of the box.
it is (or was) possible to add perl scripting to zope.
search for "perl" on this page: 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ScriptingZope.stx

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's THE ULTRA PICKLE!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From nhavar@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 20:22:46 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:22:46 +0000
Subject: [Zope] pulling from another website
Message-ID: <F51WhMnU5JzUIDk4Jdx0003ca46@hotmail.com>

I believe that IFRAMES are now supported by all of the major browsers and 
are part of the HTML 4 recomendation 
(http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/present/frames.html#h-16.5). I believe 
their premise also carries over into the XFRAMES draft.

There are some general caveats for using iframes (generally the same ones 
for frames) in that frame to frame communication may be denied if the 
communicating pages are hosted on different domains and if security levels 
have not been changed to allow cross domain scripting/communication. This 
change would have to be performed on each individual machine and cannot be 
forced through by client side scripting.

Does the ZOPE CMF Syndication option only work with RSS feeds?



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From ed@greengraphics.net  Tue Mar 18 04:37:36 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:37:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C101@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303172036280.26527-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Also, you can look at the quick hack I made to do something similar:

http://www.zope.org/Members/element/LocalPageCache/

-ed-

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Passin, Tom wrote:

> [ martin f krafft]
>
> > also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org>
> > [2003.03.17.2002 +0100]:
> > > Simplest is to put it into a frame or IFrame, by means of a bit of
> > > javascript called by an onLoad event.
> >
> > javascript is evil. moreover, this won't work if someone browses the
> > site with e.g. lynx.
> >
>
> I do not agree about javascript being evil - depends on how you use it,
> of course.  lynx will not work for any web site that has graphics or
> anything else, so this would limit your use of other sites quite a bit.
> Is that your intention?
>
> Anyway, lynx does not support IFrames, does it?  So supporting lynx
> would rule out any frame-based apporaches.  Of course, some people think
> frames are evil, as well, and probably with more justification.
>
> > i don't believe in anything-client-side.
>
> Thin client, thick head? (Sorry, couldn't resist, meant no offense).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom P
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From kent@springfed.com  Mon Mar 17 20:49:47 2003
From: kent@springfed.com (Kent Tenney)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:49:47 -0600
Subject: [Zope] "root default view was probably deleted"
Message-ID: <3E7634EB.5030306@springfed.com>

Howdy,
I receive this error when I try to add a product from the ZMI.

What is "root default view", and where do I get another?

Thanks,
Kent

======================================================================
Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this resource.

Resource not found
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.

Check the URL and try again.

Resource: no default view (root default view was probably deleted)

======================================================================

HTML source of error page;

=======================================================================
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" 
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Zope on http://localhost:8080</title>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
function update_menu() {
   window.manage_menu.location.href=window.manage_menu.location.href;
}
//-->
</script>
</head>

     <frameset rows="34, *">
     <frame src="http://localhost:8080/manage_top_frame" name="manage_top_frame"
    marginheight="0" scrolling="no"/>

   <frameset cols="175,*">
     <frame src="http://localhost:8080/manage_menu" name="manage_menu"
      marginwidth="2" marginheight="2" scrolling="auto"/>

     <frame src="http://localhost:8080/manage_workspace" name="manage_main"
      marginwidth="2" marginheight="2" scrolling="auto"/>
   </frameset>

   </frameset>

<noframes>
Management interfaces require the use of a <b>frames-capable</b> web browser.
</noframes>
</html>
===============================================================================



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 17 21:05:10 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:05:10 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: pulling from another website
Message-ID: <F65ZaendgjvM9KfYDov00040a96@hotmail.com>

"javascript is evil. moreover, this won't work if someone browses the site 
with e.g. lynx."

Sorry but what a complete crock of elitist crap. Javascript, just like any 
other client side code, has it's uses (and abuses). Saying that Javascript 
is evil even in part because it can't be used by browsers like Lynx is 
equivelant to saying that CSS/Graphics are evil because the blind can't see 
them. Or that HTML 4.0 is bad because IE3 and NS4 don't implement it well.

Yes there are alot of script kiddies and even professional designers out 
there that use the propritary extensions (both MS's and Netscapes) and cause 
sites to be inaccessible to certain users. I think instead of bashing the 
language we should advocate better use. Let's keep blanket statements like 
"XXXXX is evil" out of the groups and focus on helping developer create 
better more accessible content using ALL of the tools at their disposal.


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From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:43:51 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:43:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] about load_files.py
In-Reply-To: <20030317030437.53428.qmail@web15211.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030317030437.53428.qmail@web15211.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15990.13191.160668.71769@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chen Fu wrote at 2003-3-17 11:04 +0800:
 > I try load_files.py to upload htmls on my hard disk.
 > Try to explain easily, i upload to root
 > http://localhost:8080/.
 > But i get :
 > ....
 > RemoteException(t,v,f,l,self.url,query,ec,em,response)
 > bci.NotFound: bobo exception (File:
 > d:\zope\lib\python\OFS\ObjectManager.py Line
 > : 58)
 > 400 Bad Request for
 > http://localhost:8080/manage_addFolder
 > 
 > ==============================================
 > 
 > Did i miss something?

Look at line 58 of "OFS\ObjectManager.py".
The code there will tell you precisely what went wrong.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:39:22 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:39:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to call a method on another object in DTML
In-Reply-To: <1047898557.11112.1.camel@pc-dt>
References: <1047898557.11112.1.camel@pc-dt>
Message-ID: <15990.12922.825634.92592@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

pieter claassen wrote at 2003-3-17 10:55 +0000:
 > But what if the object is far away in another hierarchy and I want to
 > render it (not call its index_html method on my object!)

You use "restrictedTraverse" to locate the object....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:36:28 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:36:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] =?iso-8859-1?Q?File_content_read?=
In-Reply-To: <200303170937.h2H9bS44008984@0hatton.dyndns.org>
References: <200303170937.h2H9bS44008984@0hatton.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <15990.12748.809288.724788@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chatton Sylvain wrote at 2003-3-17 10:37 GMT:
 > I'm searching the way to read the content of a file (ascii), from a script. The file is stored into a Zope folder.

"OFS.Image.File" objects return their content via "str". Thus,
when you convert a File object into a string, you get the file content).

This is not true for the derived class "Image".

You can use the "read" method in both cases.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:29:44 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:29:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] app stress test  tool
In-Reply-To: <3E7259A2.5060906@neurobs.com>
References: <3E7259A2.5060906@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15990.12344.147091.471220@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-14 14:37 -0800:
 > Does anybody have any experience with a web app stress tool that works 
 > with zope and is available as a demo dowload?

Andreas Jung released a stress testing framework.
Please, search the archives...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 19:09:23 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:09:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Debugging Zope Products
In-Reply-To: <20030315182752.22718.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <15980.65353.927465.849088@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <20030315182752.22718.qmail@web20801.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15990.7523.698134.975955@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Please stay on the list...

Derek Basch wrote at 2003-3-15 10:27 -0800:
 > Thanks for the reply Dieter. I think I understand now.
 > I am still stuck on a minor problem that you could
 > probably help me with. 

I cannot help you, as I do it differently.

When you are interested, please visit

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>

and look for interactive debugging support.

Some changes are needed to make it work for Zope 2.6.1.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:45:45 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:45:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Make Zope 2.6.1 error log persistent
In-Reply-To: <3E75FA90.5070301@neurobs.com>
References: <3E75FA90.5070301@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15990.13305.747764.645455@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-17 08:40 -0800:
 > Is there any way that I can make the error log persistent across 
 > restarts.

You tell "error_log" is should copy the messages to
the "event log". Then, you find them persistently
in the log file (see "doc/LOGGING.txt", for details).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:34:42 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:34:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Problem accessing help in Zope
In-Reply-To: <000f01c2ebea$64ab0780$1de4dc0c@ct192133a>
References: <000f01c2ebea$64ab0780$1de4dc0c@ct192133a>
Message-ID: <15990.12642.940656.873553@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mike P wrote at 2003-3-16 13:32 -0500:
 > I'm new to Zope and reading "The Zope Book". Following along with the
 > book, I created a version for making changes and not go live with them
 > until all changes were complete. The problem is unless I am working in
 > the changes version I get the following error when accessing some, but
 > not all, of the help topics:
 > 
 > Error Type: VersionLockError
 > Error Value: ('"\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\x00\\xec"','/myChanges')
 > 
 > Error does not occur in any of the help topics if I am working in
 > myChanges version. I'm using Zope 2.6.1 on Windows 2000. Any assistance
 > would be appreciated.

Something changed the help topics in your version.
Therefore, they are now locked.

It is probably a bug that help topics are changed...
Please file a bug report to <http://collector.zope.org/Zope>.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:38:45 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:38:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to read Folders...
In-Reply-To: <3E759C29.8090202@semafor.ch>
References: <3E759C29.8090202@semafor.ch>
Message-ID: <15990.12885.869127.537349@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Sorin Marti wrote at 2003-3-17 10:58 +0100:
 > ...
 > That's the situation. Now I want a dtml-document which shows the 
 > uploaded documents in a table for each category like: 
 > name,link-to-pdf,link-to-html

Do *NOT* use DTML Document, use DTML Method instead...

... unless you have really good reasons to use DTML Document.

 > How can I get these links? I tried around with objectValues but I didn't 
 > suceed.

"DocFinder" might help you to learn about the available methods:

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:44:27 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:44:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] about unit test
In-Reply-To: <20030317042209.275.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030317042209.275.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15990.13227.378058.999708@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chen Fu wrote at 2003-3-17 12:22 +0800:
 > I download several products and find some of them own
 > a "tests" directory. I think there are the files for
 > unit test. Any guru can show me how to do a unit test
 > in zope? Maybe you can give me a link to read :)

The "unit test" section in the Python Library Reference
is a good start....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:32:28 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:32:28 +0100
Subject: [Zope] local variable
In-Reply-To: <1047799297.1211.8.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
References: <1047799297.1211.8.camel@dad.andersonville.com>
Message-ID: <15990.12508.757197.222380@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

D. Rick Anderson wrote at 2003-3-15 23:21 -0800:
 > I've got a python script that sets a variable:
 > 
 >     notes_eo_counter = 0 
 > 
 > And then defines a function:
 > 
 >     def printNotesRow(columns):
 >             ....
 > ...
 > This has worked just fine in several scripts, but in this particular one
 > I'm gettin an error:
 > 
 > Error Type: UnboundLocalError
 > Error Value: local variable 'notes_eo_counter' referenced before
 > assignment

The problem is that you write to the variable:

  Variables from an outer scope are read automatically.
  However, as soon as you assign to a variable, you
  must declare it as from the outer scope.

  Please read the Python reference manual for more information.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 17 20:28:11 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:28:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] a login link
In-Reply-To: <20030317140849.GB20263@mc.duke.edu>
References: <20030314135836.GF26096@mc.duke.edu>
 <20030317140849.GB20263@mc.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <15990.12251.44140.59136@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bryan C. Andregg wrote at 2003-3-17 09:08 -0500:
 > > A typical HTTP authentication behaviour:
 > > 
 > >   Login information is automatically send to the subhierarchy
 > >   rooted in the parent of the object that did require
 > >   the authentication.
 > 
 > I understand that, but if the client is sending the Login information and it's
 > valid, then why doesn't Zope return the requested page using the login
 > information?

Hm, I suggested that the client *does not* send the login information...

   It sends it only into the subhierarchie containing the URL that requested
   authentication.


Dieter


From alet@librelogiciel.com  Mon Mar 17 21:25:30 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:25:30 +0100
Subject: [Zope] can zope handle jsp serlet or perl scipt?
In-Reply-To: <20030317200944.GC1879@slinkp.com>
References: <Pine.A41.4.10.10303171415430.33588-100000@stats.arches.uga.edu> <20030317200944.GC1879@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <20030317212529.GA18852@mail.librelogiciel.com>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 03:09:45PM -0500, Paul Winkler wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:17:38PM -0500, Jianping Zhu wrote:
> > 
> > Can zope handle jsp, servlet like apache+tomcat?
> 
> > can i hand perl cgi script?
> 
> not exactly, and not out of the box.
> it is (or was) possible to add perl scripting to zope.
> search for "perl" on this page: 
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ScriptingZope.stx

As an alternative, you could try ZShellScripts which is downloadable
from http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/

It offers semi-transparent support for Python, Perl, PHP, Lisp, Ruby 
(only in the CVS version) , and *nix Bash. 

Each of these languages can access Zope objects in a, more or less, 
semi-transparent way for basic purposes.

e.g. in Perl you get something like this :

    #! /ZShellScripts_Samples/perl
    print "This script is located in : " . $container->getId . "\n";
    print "Username : $username     Password : $password\n"; 
    print "Session ID : $SESSION_ID\n";
    print "Preferences : $SESSION->{'preferences'}\n";
        
I was told that it is used successfully in the GNUe (GNU Entreprise)
project, but I don't remember if it is for the Perl or PHP part.

bye,

Jerome Alet


From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 17 21:30:30 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:30:30 -0800
Subject: [Zope] html2pdf question
Message-ID: <3E763E76.9030804@neurobs.com>

I followed the instructions here :

http://www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/howtoPDF to set up on the fly 
html2pdf conversion.

the question I have is that do I have to have filenames ending in .html 
for it to work.

To view the error generated please see:

http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/index_html/html2pdf  on IE

On nerscape it pops up a box that says that the file doesnt start with %pdf

Any ideas as to what I should do about that??

TIA
AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From gregoire.weber@switzerland.org  Mon Mar 17 21:54:19 2003
From: gregoire.weber@switzerland.org (Gregoire Weber)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:54:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] about unit test
In-Reply-To: <20030317042209.275.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030317224239.026b3a48@pop.gmx.net>

Hi,

I'm writing unit tests for a CMFCollection (a CMF product) and
the following works for me:

    1. Download testrunner.py from
       <http://www.zope.org/Members/shh/TestRunner/index_html>

    2. Read the instructions from the above page.
       (I renamed and copied the downloaded testrunner.py
       to /SoftwareZopeRoot/utilities/testrunner2.py)

    3. All my unit test files begin with the code below.

    4. I start my unit tests from the products directory:

       - cd pathToINSTANCE_HOME/Products/MyProduct'

       - /SoftwareZopeRoot/utilities/testrunner2.py -iaq

    5. done.

How to write unit tests look at the instructions Dieter gave
you.

--------------------------------------------------------------
import Zope
try:
     Zope.startup()
except NameError:  # pre Zope 2.6.1
     pass

from unittest import TestCase, TestSuite, makeSuite, main

from Products.ProductUnderTest import ModuleUnderTest # etc.

# test code here

At 12:22 17.03.2003 +0800, =3D?gb2312?q?Chen=3D20Fu?=3D wrote:
>Hi!
>I download several products and find some of them own
>a "tests" directory. I think there are the files for
>unit test. Any guru can show me how to do a unit test
>in zope? Maybe you can give me a link to read :)
>Thanks!

_____________________________________
Gr=E9goire Weber
mailto:gregoire.weber@switzerland.org



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 17 21:14:51 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:14:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] html2pdf ques
Message-ID: <3E763ACB.60007@neurobs.com>

I followed the instructions here :

http://www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/howtoPDF to set up on the fly 
html2pdf conversion.

the question I have is that do I have to have filenames ending in .html 
for it to work.

To view the error generated please see:

http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/index_html/html2pdf

TIA
AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From lsh@wo.cz  Mon Mar 17 14:33:03 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:33:03 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Is Zope unique? Books?
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F00172F31@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: Andy McKay <andy@agmweb.ca>
: > There has long been rumor of an O'Reilly title, but if they're
: > working on one, it isn't here yet.
:=20
: O'Reilly has no Zope books planned anymore AFAIK.

Stephan Richter from this list prepares one more book about Zope, with CM=
S
overview.

JL.


From lsh@wo.cz  Mon Mar 17 14:39:03 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:39:03 -0000
Subject: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F00172F34@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: AM <list_subscriber@neurobs.com>
: The problem we are facing seems to manifest itself only in the IE 5.5+=20
: browsers. We have been unable to reproduce it on Netscape or Mozilla or=
=20
: Opera.

IE5.5 have authentication problems with Zope. Please use fresh install of
IE4, IE5, IE6. Does not make upgrade of IE5.5. But you could try it.

Regards, JL.


From mguerrero@tachyon.net  Mon Mar 17 22:08:03 2003
From: mguerrero@tachyon.net (Michael Guerrero)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:08:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sort based on a variable
Message-ID: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCA0371C1@ex1.tachyon.net>

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I have a table tab1 with 3 columns col1,co2,col3.
=20
I've defined a sql method 'get_list' as 'select col1,co2,col3 from tab1.
=20
In a dtml method (view_list)I want call get_list and sort on any of the =
three columns.  I know I can do the following:
=20
<dtml-in get_list sort=3D"col2">
   display stuff here
</dtml-in>
=20
I'm passing the sort order column to view_list using -->  =
view_list?sort_order=3Dcol2
=20
I get no error but incorrect results when I try to do the following in =
view_list:
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)">
<dtml-in sql_list_rma sort=3Dt_sort_order>
=20
I also tried putting various combinations of single and double quotes =
around t_sort_order' without any luck.
=20
I can display t_sort_order, so I know it's getting the proper value.  It =
just doesn't evaluate correctly.  I think it has something with =
double-quotes needing to surround the sort filename.
=20
I really don't want to create 3 sql methods =
(get_list_by_col1,get_list_by_col2,get_list_by_col3).
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I'd appreciate any help.
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have =
a table=20
tab1&nbsp;with 3 columns col1,co2,col3.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've =
defined a sql=20
method 'get_list' as 'select&nbsp;col1,co2,col3 from =
tab1.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In a =
dtml method=20
(view_list)I want call get_list and sort on any of the three =
columns.&nbsp; I=20
know I can do the following:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&lt;dtml-in get_list=20
sort=3D"col2"&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; display=20
stuff here</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&lt;/dtml-in&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm =
passing the sort=20
order column to view_list using --&gt;&nbsp;=20
view_list?sort_order=3Dcol2</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I get =
no error but=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&lt;dtml-call=20
"REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)"&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;dtml-in sql_list_rma=20
sort=3Dt_sort_order&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also =
tried putting=20
various combinations of single and double quotes around=20
t_sort_order'&nbsp;without any luck.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can =
display=20
t_sort_order, so I know it's getting the proper value.&nbsp; It just =
doesn't=20
evaluate correctly.&nbsp; I think it has something with double-quotes =
needing to=20
surround the sort filename.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd =
appreciate any=20
help.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D725275121-17032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike =
Guerrero</DIV>
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From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Mon Mar 17 22:27:25 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:27:25 +1200
Subject: [Zope] sort based on a variable
In-Reply-To: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCA0371C1@ex1.tachyon.net>
References: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCA0371C1@ex1.tachyon.net>
Message-ID: <3E764BCD.6000003@d-designz.co.nz>

I believe your looking for sort_expr
<dtml-in get_list sort_expr="t_sort_order">

Michael Guerrero wrote:

>I have a table tab1 with 3 columns col1,co2,col3.
> 
>I've defined a sql method 'get_list' as 'select col1,co2,col3 from tab1.
> 
>In a dtml method (view_list)I want call get_list and sort on any of the
>three columns.  I know I can do the following:
> 
><dtml-in get_list sort="col2">
>   display stuff here
></dtml-in>
> 
>I'm passing the sort order column to view_list using -->
>view_list?sort_order=col2
> 
>I get no error but incorrect results when I try to do the following in
>view_list:
><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)">
><dtml-in sql_list_rma sort=t_sort_order>
> 
>I also tried putting various combinations of single and double quotes
>around t_sort_order' without any luck.
> 
>I can display t_sort_order, so I know it's getting the proper value.  It
>just doesn't evaluate correctly.  I think it has something with
>double-quotes needing to surround the sort filename.
> 
>I really don't want to create 3 sql methods
>(get_list_by_col1,get_list_by_col2,get_list_by_col3).
> 
>I'd appreciate any help.
> 
>Thanks.
> 
>Mike Guerrero
>
>.
>
>  
>



From ruger@comnett.net  Mon Mar 17 22:15:14 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:15:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sort based on a variable
References: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCA0371C1@ex1.tachyon.net>
Message-ID: <3E7648F2.7080206@comnett.net>

Try this:

<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)">
<dtml-in "sql_list_rma(_.None, _, sort=t_sort_order)">
 render results
</dtml-in>

Rick


Michael Guerrero wrote:

> I have a table tab1 with 3 columns col1,co2,col3.
>  
> I've defined a sql method 'get_list' as 'select col1,co2,col3 from tab1.
>  
> In a dtml method (view_list)I want call get_list and sort on any of 
> the three columns.  I know I can do the following:
>  
> <dtml-in get_list sort="col2">
>    display stuff here
> </dtml-in>
>  
> I'm passing the sort order column to view_list using -->  view_list?sort_order=col2
>  
> I get no error but incorrect results when I try to do the following in 
> view_list:
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)">
> <dtml-in sql_list_rma sort=t_sort_order>
>  
> I also tried putting various combinations of single and double quotes 
> around t_sort_order' without any luck.
>  
> I can display t_sort_order, so I know it's getting the proper value.  
> It just doesn't evaluate correctly.  I think it has something with 
> double-quotes needing to surround the sort filename.
>  
> I really don't want to create 3 sql methods 
> (get_list_by_col1,get_list_by_col2,get_list_by_col3).
>  
> I'd appreciate any help.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Mike Guerrero
>




From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 17 22:33:18 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:33:18 -0500
Subject: [Zope] sort based on a variable
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C146@email1.mitretek.org>

I like to have the database to the sorting whenever possible.  You can
change your sql statement to something like

select col1,co2,col3 from tab1 order=3D'<dtml-var t_sort_order>'

Or, a little more compact using entity notation,

select col1,co2,col3 from tab1 order=3D'&dtml-t_sort_order;'

If you want to sort on more than one column, just create the right
string for t_sort_order.

Cheers,

Tom P

[Michael Guerrero]

I have a table tab1 with 3 columns col1,co2,col3.

I've defined a sql method 'get_list' as 'select col1,co2,col3 from tab1.

In a dtml method (view_list)I want call get_list and sort on any of the
three columns.  I know I can do the following:

<dtml-in get_list sort=3D"col2">
   display stuff here
</dtml-in>

I'm passing the sort order column to view_list using -->
view_list?sort_order=3Dcol2

I get no error but incorrect results when I try to do the following in
view_list:
<dtml-call "REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)">
<dtml-in sql_list_rma sort=3Dt_sort_order>

I also tried putting various combinations of single and double quotes
around t_sort_order' without any luck.

I can display t_sort_order, so I know it's getting the proper value.  It
just doesn't evaluate correctly.  I think it has something with
double-quotes needing to surround the sort filename.

I really don't want to create 3 sql methods
(get_list_by_col1,get_list_by_col2,get_list_by_col3).

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks.

Mike Guerrero


From mguerrero@tachyon.net  Mon Mar 17 22:45:27 2003
From: mguerrero@tachyon.net (Michael Guerrero)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:45:27 -0800
Subject: [Zope] sort based on a variable
Message-ID: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCAD2EDB1@ex1.tachyon.net>

That's exactly what I was looking.

Thank you very much and others that replied as well.

Thanks again.

Mike Guerrero



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Beaven [mailto:chris@d-designz.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:27 PM
To: Michael Guerrero
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] sort based on a variable


I believe your looking for sort_expr
<dtml-in get_list sort_expr=3D"t_sort_order">

Michael Guerrero wrote:

>I have a table tab1 with 3 columns col1,co2,col3.
>=20
>I've defined a sql method 'get_list' as 'select col1,co2,col3 from =
tab1.
>=20
>In a dtml method (view_list)I want call get_list and sort on any of the
>three columns.  I know I can do the following:
>=20
><dtml-in get_list sort=3D"col2">
>   display stuff here
></dtml-in>
>=20
>I'm passing the sort order column to view_list using -->
>view_list?sort_order=3Dcol2
>=20
>I get no error but incorrect results when I try to do the following in
>view_list:
><dtml-call "REQUEST.set('t_sort_order',sort_order)">
><dtml-in sql_list_rma sort=3Dt_sort_order>
>=20
>I also tried putting various combinations of single and double quotes
>around t_sort_order' without any luck.
>=20
>I can display t_sort_order, so I know it's getting the proper value.  =
It
>just doesn't evaluate correctly.  I think it has something with
>double-quotes needing to surround the sort filename.
>=20
>I really don't want to create 3 sql methods
>(get_list_by_col1,get_list_by_col2,get_list_by_col3).
>=20
>I'd appreciate any help.
>=20
>Thanks.
>=20
>Mike Guerrero
>
>.
>
> =20
>



From crosbie@cyberspaceengineers.org  Mon Mar 17 22:04:46 2003
From: crosbie@cyberspaceengineers.org (Crosbie Fitch)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 22:04:46 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Is Logout actually impossible? (ExUserFolder)
Message-ID: <b55gjn$ag2$1@main.gmane.org>

Is it just me, or is logout actually impossible?

Once you're authenticated with ExUserFolder (on a subfolder), it seems near
as dammit impossible to become un-authenticated - I've tried quite a few
permutations (standard authentication & cookie based).

This doesn't work:
<div tal:define="dummy python:here.acl_users.logout(request)" />

Nor does this:
<div tal:define="dummy
python:request['RESPONSE'].expireCookie('__ac',path='/')"/>

NB What should 'path' be here?

Sure, you can redirect to a folder above the XUF acl_users, e.g. to the
root:
<div tal:define="dummy python:request.response.redirect('/loggedout')" />
but that doesn't stop the user going back to where they were and remaining
authenticated.

I've read in some places that it's all IE's fault, for not destroying the
session info, but I'm using the latest version of IE, so that seems strange.

Do PHP users have this problem too, or is it just Zope?

I can get registration and login working just fine. It's just logout that's
tricky.





From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 17 23:26:44 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:26:44 -0800
Subject: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems
References: <3E6B9A2F00172F34@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)
Message-ID: <3E7659B4.9020100@neurobs.com>

Well unfortunately I saw the same behavior on a new install of XP which 
came with IE 6

Is there ANY way to circumvent the Evil Empires nefarious attempts to 
break everything holy and standardized?

TIA
AM

Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:

>: Odesílatel: AM <list_subscriber@neurobs.com>
>: The problem we are facing seems to manifest itself only in the IE 5.5+ 
>: browsers. We have been unable to reproduce it on Netscape or Mozilla or 
>: Opera.
>
>IE5.5 have authentication problems with Zope. Please use fresh install of
>IE4, IE5, IE6. Does not make upgrade of IE5.5. But you could try it.
>
>Regards, JL.
>  
>
 >> Chris Withers wrote:
 >>
 >> Sounds like something, somewhere is caching the incorrect 
information for one of you Zope threads...
 >>
 >> cheers,

>  
>

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Tue Mar 18 00:14:23 2003
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:14:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems
References: <3E6B9A2F00172F34@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz) <3E7659B4.9020100@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <02cb01c2ece3$550a1290$0100a8c0@AHAH>

----- Original Message -----
From: "AM" <list_subscriber@neurobs.com>
To: <lsh@wo.cz>
Cc: "Zope" <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] IE 5.5+ and login problems


> Well unfortunately I saw the same behavior on a new install of XP which
> came with IE 6

I had this kind of problems  with 6.0.2 (and a lot more)
before I changed my MTU
according to the following explanations  (
http://www.netheaven.com/pmtu.html)

Joe User has a DSL line.  Like many DSL lines, Joe's line actually comes
from a large DSL wholesaler and uses PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) to create a
logical channel between Joe and his favorite ISP.  The DSL line physically
connects to a small PPPoE router with a built-in hub, which Joe uses as the
basis for his home network.
The MTU on Joe's network is Ethernet's usual 1500 bytes.  The MTU on his DSL
line is also 1500 bytes, but PPPoE uses 8 of these bytes for an 8-byte PPPoE
header, so the MTU of his PPPoE channel to his ISP is only 1492 bytes.
A computer on Joe's Ethernet doesn't know about the PPPoE channel.  The
largest packet it can receive is a 1500-byte Ethernet packet, so when Joe
uses his computer to connect to a remote server, his computer tells the
server it's ok to send packets up to 1500 bytes.[*]
Establishing connections uses only very small packets, so Joe can connect to
the server without any MTU issues, but as soon as Joe asks for enough data
to fill a 1500-byte packet, the server sends a 1500-byte packet.  When that
packet gets to Joe's ISP, it doesn't fit down the PPPoE channel.  The packet
has the DF bit set, telling Joe's ISP to drop the packet and send the server
an ICMP saying what packet size will fit.  The ISP sends an ICMP saying the
largest size is 1492 bytes.
If the server gets that ICMP, it re-sends the first 1492 bytes as a new
packet.  This new packets fits down the PPPoE channel, so Joe's computer
gets it and sends back an acknowledgement.  The server continues sending
1492-byte packets until Joe has what he asked for.  In most cases the server
will remember the reduced path MTU, typically for ten minutes, and use it
for future connections from Joe's computer.
However, if the server does not get that ICMP, things go downhill fast.  The
server is expecting an acknowledgement from Joe's computer, but Joe's
computer didn't get the packet, so the acknowledgment never comes.  After
awhile, the server gives up waiting and sends the same 1500-byte packet
again.  Joe's ISP sends back another ICMP.  The server doesn't get it again
and tries sending the 1500-byte packet a third time, then a fourth, a fifth,
and so on.
Meanwhile Joe's computer can't tell this is happening and is waiting for a
response from the server.  Eventually, it gives up and sends the server a
connection reset.  It reports a network failure to Joe, who is left
wondering what happened.  He may soon discover he can access nearly all
other sites, just not the one he wanted.

If the server he's trying to access is a web server, he may get part of the
website, such as getting the ads but not the main page content.  This
happens because the pages normally displayed for many websites are assembled
from data obtained from multiple servers on a variety of networks.  The
networks dispensing the ads all support path MTU discovery.
If Joe complains to the server operator, they may tell him the problem has
to be his ISP because other users can view their server.  However, Joe's ISP
is not doing anything wrong, but the server operator is.  PPPoE and other
connections with reduced MTUs are perfectly legitimate and increasingly
common. Having a server ask for ICMP noptification that it refuses to accept
is what's broken behavior.  Some later day, when the server site has gotten
enough complaints from people like Joe to believe something is wrong, it may
either stop asking for the ICMPs or start accepting the useful ones.  Then
Joe will be able to access it



> Is there ANY way to circumvent the Evil Empires nefarious attempts to
> break everything holy and standardized?
>
> TIA
> AM
>
> Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
>
> >: Odesílatel: AM <list_subscriber@neurobs.com>
> >: The problem we are facing seems to manifest itself only in the IE 5.5+
> >: browsers. We have been unable to reproduce it on Netscape or Mozilla or
> >: Opera.
> >
> >IE5.5 have authentication problems with Zope. Please use fresh install of
> >IE4, IE5, IE6. Does not make upgrade of IE5.5. But you could try it.
> >
> >Regards, JL.
> >
> >
>  >> Chris Withers wrote:
>  >>
>  >> Sounds like something, somewhere is caching the incorrect
> information for one of you Zope threads...
>  >>
>  >> cheers,
>
> >
> >
>
> --
> ==================================================================
>  Aseem Mohanty
>  Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706
>  (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231
> ==================================================================
>  "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and
>   stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes
> ==================================================================
>
>
>
>
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From renfro@tntech.edu  Tue Mar 18 00:47:03 2003
From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:47:03 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030317193743.GA31943@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317181055.GB1430@slinkp.com> <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net> <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h> <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch> <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]> <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch> <20030317193743.GA31943@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <20030318004703.GB30386@ch208h>

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:37:43PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Gidon Friedman <tempnospam1@friedman.ch> [2003.03.17.1955 +0100]:
> > but i don't quite understand why you don't use LocalFS, it should
> > be possible one way or the other.
> 
> does zope 2.5 do LocalFS? the main reason i don't do it is because
> i'd prefer to stay with Debian, and Debian does not have it included
> AFAICT.

I'm probably as big a Debian proponent as you'll find around here, and
my original Zope installs on Debian date back to August 1999. That
having been said:

Debian doesn't package LocalFS, that's true, but it doesn't need
to. Unpack it somewhere (use /usr/local/zope/LocalFS if you want to
keep everything separate), and symlink it into
/usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products as needed. Debian won't stop you
from running LocalFS, and LocalFS won't stop you from running
Debian. I installed it sometime around a year and a half ago, and it
worked fine then.

-- 
Mike Renfro  / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research,
931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu


From florian.konnertz@web.de  Tue Mar 18 07:44:09 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:44:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime: several errors on 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <15985.3945.270123.32672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E6DEA85.3050206@web.de>	<15982.27018.862212.519729@gargle.gargle.HOWL>	<3E6E8B60.1040303@web.de> <15985.3945.270123.32672@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E76CE49.2030308@web.de>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-12 02:20 +0100:
>  > Hi Dieter,
>  > 
>  > Dieter Maurer wrote:
>  > > Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-11 14:54 +0100:
>  > >  > I encounter several errors relating to ZopeTime:
>  > >  > Zope-2.6.1, ZWiki-0.16
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > http://openspirit.homelinux.net/
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > Traceback (innermost last):
>  > >  >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>  > >  >    Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>  > >  >    Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>  > >  >    Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 126, in __call__
>  > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>  > >  >    Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
>  > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>  > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
>  > >  >    Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Var, line 219, in render
>  > >  > KeyError: ZopeTime
>  > > 
>  > > Apparently, the root of your web site is not found (this
>  > > "Application" object defines "ZopeTime").
>  > Ok. - Very enlightening! :) My mind isn't object-orientated enough yet. ;-)
>  > > 
>  > > Usually this means, that a DTML object is called without
>  > > its positional parameters.
>  > > 
>  > > Unfortunately, the new tracebacks do not longer tell
>  > > about the objects affected. I expect the "OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124"
>  > > to be the culprit (more precisely, the code in the DTML Method
>  > > that calls this DTML Document).
>  > Document?
> 
> Yes, I see (in the traceback) that is is a DTML Document:
> 
>      Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 124, in __call__
>      
>  > - Shouldn't it read: "...that calls this DTML object" - if i 
>  > got the above explanation right (?)
> 
> The DTML Documents seems to be called wrong (from the DTML Method).
> 
>  > So i'll do some LOG before line 124 now
>  >       LOG("bself",TRACE,bself)
>  > 124  r=apply(HTML.__call__, (self, bself, REQUEST), kw)
>  > do you think this is right?
> 
> No. This time a LOG message does not help much.
> 
> If I am right, then you should look at the DTML Methods
> source and check whether the DTML Document is called correctly.
But how can i find out if not by logging? The source is the regular zope 
source (see traceback) and it always worked in 2.5.0 and for several 
days in 2.6.1.

Florian


-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From florian.konnertz@web.de  Tue Mar 18 09:35:45 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:35:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
Message-ID: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>

Hi all,

I'm still bothered with the misbehaving ZopeTime object. If you could 
give me further debugging tips i would be very thankful.

The story: I upgraded to 2.6.1 and ZWiki-0.16 and everthing worked well. 
After a certain time i get ZopeTime errors, the server is running from 
the beginning. I reproduced these errors with a brandnew installation of 
2.6.1 and as the only product ZWiki.

As an example of several errors take this one:
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker
The issue tracker needs a catalog. With a clean catalog there are no 
errors, but with a fresh built one i get this error:

Traceback (innermost last):

     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
     * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 43, in call_object
     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 221, in __call__
     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 233, in _render
     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 416, in 
render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
     * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 134, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
     * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 120, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 705, in renderwob
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 75, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 204, in eval
       __traceback_info__: _
     * Module <string>, line 2, in f

NameError: global name 'ZopeTime' is not defined

-----

So i logged some objects in ZWikiPage.py and other places. Maybe you can 
give me a hint if there are correct values.

     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
     * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 43, in call_object
2003-03-18T10:51:45 TRACE(-300) Publisher--call_object: The wiki DTML 
document
--> OK.
Publisher--call_object: args (<Folder instance at 93d0d70>, 
<HTTPRequest, URL=http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker>, 
ZServerHTTPResponse(''))
--> OK?
--> REQUEST object is also ok.

     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 221, in __call__
__call__-client <Folder instance at b54ba20>
--> OK?
--> REQUEST, RESPONSE seem to be ok.
__call__-kw {}
--> ?? no kw?

     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 233, in _render
same as in __call__

     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 416, in 
render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
in apply: client: is the wiki page raw text
REQ, RESP, kw same as above
--> Is this ok?

     * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 134, in __call__
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
     * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 120, in __call__
self: &lt;dtml-if &quot;error_typ... (standard_error_msg)
--> I guess this is due to the error now!

kw: {'document_id': 'standard_error_message', 'error_type': 'NameError', 
'error_message': '', 'error_log_url': 
'http://openspirit.homelinux.net/error_log/showEntry?id=1047981994.230.471187751013', 
'error_tb': "<p>Traceback (innermost last):\r\n<ul>\n\n<li>  Module 
ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish</li>\n\n<li>  Module 
ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply</li>\n\n<li>
(...)

[...]
       __traceback_info__: _
     * Module <string>, line 2, in f


As Dieter told me already to check if the DTML-Doc is called correctly, 
i'd like to check this. How can i do this? Which debugging info and 
tools are useful in this case?

Any help is much appreciated!

Florian


-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From djmitchell@optushome.com.au  Tue Mar 18 08:41:49 2003
From: djmitchell@optushome.com.au (David Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:41:49 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Stupid Zope question for the week!
Message-ID: <3E76DBCD.3030903@optushome.com.au>

Hello everyone,

I'm about to take on a contract that will have me flying out from home 
every Monday morning and flying back every Friday night.  I'll be 
staying in THE most boring city in the world, in a poky hotel room with 
absolutely nothing to do at night at all, for months on end.  Sounds 
good, doesn't it?

I'd like to have some sort of computer in my room while I'm away, so I 
can do all the usual stuff (read email, surf net, IM, and work on my 
part-time Zope project).

Initially, I considered the obvious two options:
- laptop.  My two laptops are both several years old, and are a LONG way 
  from being able to run XP or a relatively modern Linux.  Both were 
bought when I was doing a lot of travelling; when I'm at home, they sit 
plugged into the wall and unused for months at a time.  As a result, 
both have dead batteries, so are not useful away from a wall socket.  I 
don't really feel like dropping a big pile of loot for yet another 
laptop that I probably won't use after the end of this contract, and 
which can't be upgraded.  Furthermore, I want to run Linux, and 
generally speaking Linux on a laptop still has lots of compromises
- desktop PC in the hotel room.  This is an option, but it'll take up 
lots of space and will be painful moving it into storage every weekend 
when I fly home.  Still, probably a more attractive option than a 
laptop.  On the home front, I'll cop some flak for buying "yet another" 
PC, which is a fair point

Then, in a flash of insight/stupidity, another option occurred to me. 
An X-Box with a mod chip!  It'll run Mandrake; it's cheap; it'll be 
useful when I bring it home for the kids to play games on, and as a 
MP3/Ogg/PVR player; it's small enough that I'll be able to ask the hotel 
staff to look after it on weekends; it'll probably plug into the hotel 
room's TV, so no monitor to contend with; I've already got lots of 
unused USB bits (keyboard, LAN card, modem, mouse) so connectivity 
should be OK; it'll play all my Ogg files; it's a superficially silly 
enough idea to be attractive in its own right...

So, to the big question.  Has anyone tried running Zope on an X-Box? 
No? - well that doesn't surprise me...  I realise it'll probably run, 
but what I'm really wondering is whether a 800MHz chip and 128Mb RAM is 
likely to be enough to get tolerable performance for a single user.  I'm 
using Postgres, which is a bit of a memory hog, but I could probably cut 
over to MySQL for dev purposes without any real pain.  Zope-wise, all I 
want to do is keep developing my existing project, so this box is never 
going to have more than one person using it; however, it would be nice 
to play some Oggs while I'm working...

Any opinions or suggestions welcome

Regards

Dave M.



From cchoi@sonicsinc.com  Tue Mar 18 09:04:02 2003
From: cchoi@sonicsinc.com (Charles Y. Choi)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 01:04:02 -0800
Subject: [Zope] How to fix a ZODB with a timestamp in the future?
Message-ID: <3E76E102.3090902@sonicsinc.com>

Folks -
In trying to pack a ZODB (Data.fs), I get the following message:

FileStorageError: The database has already been packed to a later time
or no changes have been made since the last pack

Given this, I try to repair the Data.fs by using the fsrecover.py
script in lib/python/ZODB/.  In doing this, it fixes the ZODB, but 
resets the timestamps of objects to a date in the year 2010.
Obviously this is not a good thing, so I've returned to using the
backed-up version of the ZODB.  Is there a way to fix this ZODB
so that the mis-timed transaction is removed or changed?

Thanks!

-Charles




From stefan@epy.co.at  Tue Mar 18 09:50:08 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:50:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] about unit test
In-Reply-To: <20030317042209.275.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
References: <20030317042209.275.qmail@web15202.mail.bjs.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1065364266.1047984608@[172.16.8.4]>

Intro to unit-testing:
<http://diveintopython.org/roman_divein.html>

Intro to unit-testing Zope:
<http://www.zope.org/Members/mcdonc/PDG/UnitTesting>

And you might want to give ZTC a try:
<http://www.zope.org/Members/shh/ZopeTestCase>

Stefan


--On Montag, 17. M=E4rz 2003 12:22 +0800 "=3D?gb2312?q?Chen=3D20Fu?=3D"=20
<novalet@yahoo.com.cn> wrote:

> Hi!
> I download several products and find some of them own
> a "tests" directory. I think there are the files for
> unit test. Any guru can show me how to do a unit test
> in zope? Maybe you can give me a link to read :)
> Thanks!
>

--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Tue Mar 18 10:07:09 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:07:09 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Stupid Zope question for the week!
In-Reply-To: <3E76DBCD.3030903@optushome.com.au>
References: <3E76DBCD.3030903@optushome.com.au>
Message-ID: <200303181007.09367.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Tuesday 18 March 2003 8:41 am, David Mitchell wrote:

> Then, in a flash of insight/stupidity, another option occurred to me.
> An X-Box with a mod chip!

nice idea. I am interested to hear how this works out.

> but what I'm really wondering is whether a 800MHz chip and 128Mb RAM is
> likely to be enough to get tolerable performance for a single user.

We used to run personal zope applications on 200MHz machines with 64Mb ram 
under windows 98. Startup time is noticeable. but its fine once it gets 
going.

>  I'm
> using Postgres, which is a bit of a memory hog

ours were probably running microsoft office too.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From jamie@audible.transient.net  Tue Mar 18 10:11:28 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 02:11:28 -0800
Subject: Wrong server in URL (was: Re: [Zope] (no subject))
In-Reply-To: <F80RpeVPOEcyhJzqNwi00044265@hotmail.com>
References: <F80RpeVPOEcyhJzqNwi00044265@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20030318101128.GA12558@audible.transient.net>

Michael Havard wrote:
> and that's fine as it should be on a direct request. But on the redirect 
> the information looks like this:
... 
> SERVER_PORT '8300'
> HTTP_USER_AGENT 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 4.0)'
> HTTP_HOST 'host:8200'

Andrew Athan pointed out last month that IE6 versions may have a
redirect bug: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=zope&m=104553499907509&w=2
Which causes the problem you're seeing plus the security hole detailed at:
http://collector.zope.org/Zope/813
and
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=zope&m=104639584701163&w=2

Workarounds are mentioned at the above locations.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"...thats the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle 
 into a lion's mouth and flicking his lovespuds with a wet towel, pure 
 insanity..."						-Rimmer


From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Tue Mar 18 10:51:55 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:51:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions
Message-ID: <200303181151.55507.thierry.florac@onf.fr>


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  Hi,

I've just tried to install and setup the DBTab product on my existing 
Zope-2.6.1 server ; my goal is to be able to split my Zope database into 
several parts, to be able to manage them more easilly (for backups,...).

So I'd like to have three FileStorage databases, called :
 - Users, to store my users properties (mount point: /intraforet/users)
 - Catalog, to store my catalog (mount point: /intraforet/if_catalog)
 - Main, to store all the other objects (mount point: /).
"/intraforet" is a folder used as a VirtualSiteRoot for my site ; you'll find 
my corresponding dbtab.conf file joined to this mail.

My problem is that the corresponding storages are created at startup, but 
there's never any object which is stored into it ; I've tried to delete and 
recreate my mount points, without any result. So here are my questions :
 - did I miss anything ?
 - can I setup DBTab for an already existing Zope site ?
 - can I use DBTab to store specific classes, like a whole ZCatalog ?
 - does the use of DBTab require any specific attention while writing Python 
products ?

Thanks for any help.

 Thierry
-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net

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######################################################################
##
## This file specifies what databases Zope should use.  It gets read
## once at startup by the DBTab product.  To activate a new
## database configuration, you need to restart Zope.
##
## dbtab.conf.in is the default configuration.  Instead of modifying
## it directly, copy it to your INSTANCE_HOME or root directory of
## your Zope installation and call it "dbtab.conf".  Then the DBTab
## product will read dbtab.conf instead of dbtab.conf.in.  Also,
## symlink or copy Products/DBTab/custom_zodb.py to your INSTANCE_HOME
## or the root of your Zope software, so that Zope will load the
## database mounted at "/" as its main database.
##
## The configuration below shows the most basic setup.  It corresponds
## closely with a default Zope install.  It specifies that Zope data
## should be stored in one large file called Data.fs and up to 4000
## objects should be kept in RAM per connection.
##
######################################################################

[Storage: Main]
type=FileStorage
file_name=%(CLIENT_HOME)s/Data.fs

[Database: Main]
cache_size=10000
mount_paths=/


[Storage: Users]
type=FileStorage
file_name=%(CLIENT_HOME)s/Users.fs

[Database: Users]
cache_size=1000
mount_paths=/intraforet/users
open_at_startup=1


[Storage: Catalog]
type=FileStorage
file_name=%(CLIENT_HOME)s/Catalog.fs

[Database: Catalog]
cache_size=10000
mount_paths=/intraforet/if_catalog
open_at_startup=1



######################################################################
##
## Here is an example of a simple ZEO client to replace the above
## configuration.  In this example, the client connects to a ZEO
## storage server on port 9001 of the same box.  Addresses to connect
## to the ZEO storage server can either be ZEO URLs, as shown below,
## or paths to Unix domain sockets.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Main]
# type=ClientStorage
# addr=zeo://localhost:9001

# [Database: Main]
# cache_size=4000
# mount_paths=/


######################################################################
##
## You can load as many databases as you need, as long as each
## database has a different name and is mounted at non-conflicting
## paths.  Below is an example of a simple mounted wiki database.
##
## The 'open_at_startup' option causes DBTab to open the database
## during Zope initialization.  If it fails to connect, Zope will stop
## immediately.  This is useful for important mounts.
##
## After adding a mount point to the configuration file, restart Zope
## and visit the Zope management interface.  Add a "DBTab Mount
## Point", which displays a form for all configured mount points.  If
## there are no conflicts, click the "add selected mount points"
## button to finalize the creation of the mount points.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Wikis]
# type=FileStorage
# file_name=%(CLIENT_HOME)s/Wikis.fs

# [Database: Wikis]
# cache_size=4000
# mount_paths=/wikis
# open_at_startup=1


######################################################################
##
## Here is an example of a ZEO client mounting a ZEO database.
## Mounting is a lot like NFS.  Each ZEO client must have its own
## connection to the server.  A ZEO server can not mount on behalf of
## its clients.  Also, fine-grained security is implemented by the ZEO
## client, not the ZEO storage server, so all ZEO clients must be
## highly trusted.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Main-Client]
# type=ClientStorage
# addr=zeo://localhost:9001

# [Database: Main-Client]
# cache_size=4000
# mount_paths=/domain_folder; /group1
# open_at_startup=1


######################################################################
##
## Here is an example of mounting the temporary folder for session
## data using DBTab instead of the default mechanisms.  You can
## experiment with this to share sessions using ZEO.  Note that you'll
## have to delete the temp_folder object before you can add the mount
## point in the management interface, and you can't do this the normal
## way since the management interface prevents you from removing the
## temp_folder.  The following external method gets around the
## restriction:
##
## def remove_temp_folder(self):
##     self.getPhysicalRoot()._delObject('temp_folder')
##     return 'Removed temp_folder successfully.'
##
## TemporaryStorage is a storage type designed for storing session
## data.  It is located in the TemporaryFolder product that comes with
## Zope.  According to its description, TemporaryStorage "uses RAM to
## persist objects, much like MappingStorage.  Unlike MappingStorage,
## it needs not be packed to get rid of non-cyclic garbage and it does
## rudimentary conflict resolution."
##
## The LowConflictConnection class helps prevent conflicts in session
## data.  According to its description, "This is potentially dangerous
## for applications that need absolute consistency, but sessioning is
## not one of those."  So be careful.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Sessions]
# type=TemporaryStorage

# [Database: Sessions]
# connection_class=LowConflictConnection
# mount_paths=/temp_folder
# auto_create=1


######################################################################
##
## The example below documents all available parameters for a
## FileStorage configuration.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Example]

## The type parameter specifies the class of the storage.  It is
## required.  Alternatives are mentioned later.

# type=FileStorage

## file_name specifies the full path to the database file.  It is
## required for FileStorages.  ZODB also creates files next to the
## database file with the suffixes ".tmp", ".index", ".index_tmp",
## ".lock", ".old", and ".pack".  Note that the file_name parameter is
## often a good place to use environment variable substitutions using
## Python string interpolation syntax like "%(CLIENT_HOME)s".

# file_name=%(CLIENT_HOME)s/Data.fs

## If the create flag is set to 1, and a database file already exists,
## ZODB deletes the database file and creates a new one.  This
## parameter defaults to 0.  Most sites should not set this.

# create=0

## If the read_only flag is set to 1, ZODB opens the database file in
## read-only mode, preventing Zope from writing to the database.  This
## parameter defaults to 0.

# read_only=0

## The quota parameter prevents the size (in bytes) of a FileStorage
## from expanding beyond a specified decimal limit.  0 disables quota
## checking.

# quota=0

## The stop parameter lets you read the database up to the transaction
## that begins at a specified decimal offset, allowing you to read a
## former database state.  You must open the database in read-only
## mode.  This is an advanced option.  0 disables stop mode.

# stop=0



######################################################################
##
## The example below documents all available parameters for a
## database configuration.
##
######################################################################

# [Database: Example]

## Note that the database name (in square brackets) has to match a
## storage name.

## Setting the open_at_startup flag to 1 causes DBTab to open the
## database during Zope initialization.  If it fails to connect, Zope
## will stop immediately.  This is useful for important mounts.  This
## option defaults to 0.

# open_at_startup=0

## The mount_paths parameter configures mount points.  The DBTab
## convention for mount points is slightly different from Unix
## conventions: in Unix, you normally mount a whole filesystem, but
## when using DBTab in Zope, you normally mount only a part of a
## database.  Here is a simple example:

# mount_paths=/News/Archives

## This parameter loads an object located at /News/Archives from the
## mounted database and makes it available as an object called
## Archives in the News folder of the main database.  The root of
## the mounted database is thus inaccessible in this ZEO client.

## You can set up multiple mount points into a single database by
## separating the paths with semicolons.

# mount_paths=/News/2001; /News/2000; /News/Old

## Use a colon after the mount path to specify the real path in the
## mounted database.  (Otherwise, the real path is the same as the
## mount path.)  Using this syntax, you can coerce DBTab into using
## Unix mounting conventions, but it is not recommended.  To mount the
## root of the mounted database into a folder in the main database:

# mount_paths=/News/Archives:/

## This loads the OFS.Application object at the root of the mounted
## database and makes it available as /News/Archives.  But when an
## Application object exists anywhere besides the root of your Zope
## site, your site is likely to break.  If you're familiar with ZODB,
## you can programmatically arrange for the root object of the mounted
## database to be some other kind of object.  But normally you just
## don't need to.

## On the other hand, if you're writing an external ZODB application
## and you want to mount your application into Zope, you may not have
## an Application at the root of your mounted ZODB at all.  The true
## root of a ZODB is a PersistentMapping where Zope puts two keys,
## "Application" and "ZGlobals".  If the important part of your ZODB
## is stored under a different key, such as "Calendar", you can use a
## tilde at the beginning of the mounted path to specify an
## alternative root name.  Example:

# mount_paths=/MyApp/MyCalendar:~Calendar/

## The auto_create parameter is useful for volatile data storage such
## as DemoStorage or MappingStorage.  Since the database gets wiped
## out when the process stops, the mountable object needs to be
## created again upon restart.  auto_create does this automatically.

# auto_create=0

## The class_factory parameter selects what kind of class factory to
## use in the database.  It exists to allow ZODB to handle missing
## class instances gracefully and to support ZClasses.  The default is
## "auto", which is good enough for almost everyone.

## - minimal: No handling of missing classes and no ZClass support.
## If ZODB attempts to load an instance of class it can't find, even
## as a side effect, ZODB will raise an exception that propagates to
## the application.  Standalone ZODB applications usually have this
## behavior.

## - simple: Instances of missing classes are replaced with
## "OFS.Broken" instances; no ZClass support.

## - zope: OFS.Broken and ZClass support.

## - auto: Same as the "zope" class factory with the added feature
## that ZClasses instances in mounted databases are loaded from the
## parent or root database rather than the mounted database.

# class_factory=auto

## The 'class' parameter lets you use a class other than ZODB.DB.DB
## for your database (usually a subclass of DB).  This is an advanced
## option.

# class=ZODB.DB.DB

## The 'connection_class' parameter lets you use a class other than
## ZODB.Connection.Connection for the database connections (usually a
## subclass of Connection).  This is useful for session data storage,
## for example, where the LowConflictConnection class helps reduce
## database conflicts.

# connection_class=ZODB.Connection.Connection

## The pool_size parameter sets the number of allowable concurrent database
## connections.  Since each connection has its own cache of recently used
## objects in the database, this number should be kept low, but it should
## be at least as high as the number of threads.  The default is 7.

# pool_size=7

## The cache_size parameter sets the maximum number of objects to keep
## in the cache for each connection.  This should be set high enough
## that Zope doesn't have to load objects on every request, but not so
## high that Zope consumes excessive RAM.  The default is 5000.  Watch
## the Database Activity page in the control panel to see whether this
## number is right for your site.

# cache_size=5000

## The cache_deactivate_after parameter is no longer in use (as of
## Zope 2.6 and ZODB 3.1).  It once set the minimum time (in seconds)
## that cached objects should be kept in RAM.  The default is 60.

# cache_deactivate_after=60

## The version_pool_size, version_cache_size, and
## version_cache_deactivate_after parameters control caching of
## objects in Zope Versions.  Tune them if you use Zope Versions.
## (version_cache_deactivate_after is no longer used as of Zope 2.6.)

# version_pool_size=3
# version_cache_size=100
# version_cache_deactivate_after=10



######################################################################
##
## The example below documents all available parameters for a
## ZEO client configuration.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Example]
# type=ClientStorage

## The required addr parameter specifies addresses of ZEO storage
## servers.  Use ZEO URL syntax to specify a host and port, or use a
## filename to specify a unix domain socket.  Note that a port is
## required.  An example of a ZEO URL:

# addr=zeo://localhost:5432

## You can use a Unix domain socket to connect a ZEO client and a ZEO
## storage server, as long as the OS supports it and both the client
## and the server are running on the same box (or you have some kind
## of tunnel).  See the ZEO documentation for instructions on making
## the ZEO server listen on a Unix socket.  Once the server is set up,
## here is how you would set up the client:

# addr=/var/zope/zeo.socket

## To use multiple addresses in a ZRS (Zope Replicated Storage)
## configuration, separate the storage server addresses with
## semicolons.  The first address will be tried first.

# addr=zeo://zrs1.example.com:5432; zeo://zrs2.example.com:5432

## The optional 'storage' parameter specifies the name of the storage
## to open from the ZEO server.  A ZEO server can theoretically serve
## multiple storages, though the feature is not used often.  By
## default, ZEO clients load the storage called "1".  This property is
## distinct from the name you assign a storage in the square brackets.

# storage=1

## The optional 'cache_size' parameter specifies the limit on the
## total size (in bytes) of all ZEO cache files.  The ZEO cache is
## stored on disk and supplements the ZODB cache.  This parameter
## defaults to 20000000 (about 20 MB).

# cache_size=20000000

## The 'client' parameter specifies whether to keep a persistent ZEO
## cache, and if so, what name to use to disambiguate this cache from
## other caches.  If the cache is persistent (client parameter is
## nonempty), ZEO creates some ".zec" files in the "var" directory or
## CLIENT_HOME and re-validates the cache upon restart.  If the cache
## is not persistent, ZEO instead uses temporary files that get
## deleted when Zope stops.  By default, the cache is not persistent.

# client=

## The 'var' parameter specifies where to store the persistent ZEO
## cache.  It defaults to the value of the CLIENT_HOME environment
## variable, which is usually the "var" directory of your ZEO client.

# var=%(CLIENT_HOME)s

## The 'min_disconnect_poll' parameter configures the minimum time to
## wait between failed ZEO server connection attempts.  It defaults to
## 5 seconds.

# min_disconnect_poll=5

## The 'max_disconnect_poll' parameter configures the maximum time to
## wait between failed ZEO server connection attempts.  When the first
## connection attempt fails, the ZEO client waits the number of
## seconds specified by min_disconnect_poll.  After each subsequent
## attempt, the client waits twice as long as the previous attempt, up
## to the value of max_disconnect_poll.  This parameter defaults to
## 300 seconds (5 minutes).

# max_disconnect_poll=300

## If the 'wait' flag is set to 1, ZEO will finish initialization and
## return control to Zope until it has successfully connected to a ZEO
## server.  This parameter defaults to 0.

# wait=0

## If the 'read_only' flag is set to 1, ZEO will only attempt
## read-only connections to the ZEO servers.  This parameter defaults
## to 0.

# read_only=0

## 'read_only_fallback' is a flag indicating whether a read-only
## remote storage should be acceptable as a fallback when no writable
## storages are available.  Defaults to false.  At most one of
## read_only and read_only_fallback should be true.

# read_only_fallback=0



######################################################################
##
## If you have BDBStorage installed, here is how to set up a
## Berkeley-backed storage.  BDBStorage, available in ZODB version
## 3.2 and above, is the successor to bsddb3storage.  (A lot of these
## directions are copied from BerkeleyBase.py.)
##
## BDBStorage provides two variants: BDBFullStorage and
## BDBMinimalStorage.  BDBFullStorage provides undo and versioning,
## while BDBMinimalStorage does not.  Choose which one to use in the
## "type" field.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: BDB]
# type=BDBFullStorage   # or BDBMinimalStorage

## Optional env, if given, is a string that names the database
## environment, i.e. essentially the name of a directory into which
## BerkeleyDB will store all its supporting files.  It is passed
## directly to DbEnv().open(), which in turn is passed to the
## BerkeleyDB function DBEnv->open() as the db_home parameter.
##
## Note that if you want to customize the underlying Berkeley DB
## parameters, this directory can contain a DB_CONFIG file as per the
## Sleepycat documentation.

# env=

## Optional prefix is the string to prepend to name when passed to
## DB.open() as the dbname parameter.  In other words, (prefix +
## storage name) is passed to the BerkeleyDb function DB->open() as
## the database parameter.  It defaults to "zodb_".

# prefix=zodb_

## Berkeley storages need to be checkpointed occasionally, otherwise
## automatic recovery can take a huge amount of time.  You should set
## up a checkpointing policy which trades off the amount of work done
## periodically against the recovery time.  Note that the Berkeley
## environment is automatically, and forcefully, checkpointed twice
## when it is closed.
##
## interval indicates how often, in seconds, a Berkeley checkpoint is
## performed.  If this is non-zero, checkpointing is performed by a
## background thread.  Otherwise checkpointing will only be done when
## the storage is closed.  You really want to enable checkpointing. ;

# interval=120

## kbytes is passed directly to txn_checkpoint().

# kbyte=0

## min is passed directly to txn_checkpoint().

# min=0

## You can acheive one of the biggest performance wins by moving the
## Berkeley log files to a different disk than the data files.  We saw
## between 2.5 and 7 times better performance this way.  If not None,
## logdir is passed to the environment's set_lg_dir() method before it
## is opened.

# logdir=

## You can also improve performance by tweaking the Berkeley cache
## size.  Berkeley's default cache size is 256KB which is usually too
## small.  The default cache size is 128MB which seems like a useful
## tradeoff between resource consumption and improved performance.
## You might be able to get slightly better results by turning up the
## cache size, although be mindful of your system's limits.  See here
## for more details:
##
##     http://www.sleepycat.com/docs/ref/am_conf/cachesize.html
##
## cachesize should be the size of the cache in bytes.

# cachesize=135000000

## These attributes control the autopacking thread: frequency is
## the time in seconds after which an autopack phase will be
## performed.  E.g. if frequency is 3600, an autopack will be done
## once per hour.  Set frequency to 0 to disable autopacking (the
## default).

# frequency=0

## packtime is the time in seconds marking the moment in the past at
## which to autopack to.  E.g. if packtime is 14400, autopack will
## pack to 4 hours in the past.  For Minimal storage, this value is
## ignored.

# packtime=14400

## classicpack is an integer indicating how often an autopack phase
## should do a full classic pack.  E.g. if classicpack is 24 and
## frequency is 3600, a classic pack will be performed once per day.
## Set to zero to never automatically do classic packs.  For Minimal
## storage, this value is ignored -- all packs are classic packs.

# classicpack=0

## read_only causes ReadOnlyError's to be raised whenever any
## operation (except pack!) might modify the underlying database.

# read_only=0



######################################################################
##
## You can also use custom storages not known to DBTab.  Prefix the
## class name of the storage with the name of the module.  The
## constructor of your class may need to convert its keyword arguments
## from strings to the correct types.
##
## For experimentation, MappingStorage and DemoStorage are available.
## DemoStorage provides undo support, while MappingStorage does not.
## Both store all data in volatile RAM, meaning all data is lost
## between Zope restarts.  Neither accepts any extra parameters
## (currently).  An example follows.  It uses the auto_create
## parameter to set up the database on restart.
##
######################################################################

# [Storage: Volatile Demo]
# type=DemoStorage

# [Database: Volatile Demo]
# mount_paths=/
# auto_create=1


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From centershock@t-online.de  Tue Mar 18 11:04:10 2003
From: centershock@t-online.de (centershock@t-online.de)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:04:10 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] session_data Users Online?
Message-ID: <1047984641.3e76fa0190c07@webmail.t-online.de>

Ahoi... Remark ahead, I know that "http" is a connectionless protocol,
but does somebody know a hack to find out how many users are online in
Zope!?! I cheked out the Session Modules in Products but can't find a
Methode that works. For hints or a tutorial_link I'm very gratefully to
you all. Oki, have a nice day and remember... Support the newbies, they
are resources for the future.

cYa


From elabuschagne@gmsonline.co.za  Tue Mar 18 11:15:59 2003
From: elabuschagne@gmsonline.co.za (Etienne Labuschagne)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:15:59 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Security settings for directory view'ed scripts?
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030318131443.00a89420@esrimail>

Hi there,

Is there a way to attach security settings to a directory view script?  I'd 
like to be able to se security settings and proxy roles.

Thanks
Etienne



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Tue Mar 18 12:58:38 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 07:58:38 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd - Data.fs corruption
In-Reply-To: <3E758EA7.3070708@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <562359CC-5941-11D7-B20B-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

I moved it all over to Zope2.6.1

Here is the error:

Exception traceback
Time 	2003/03/18 07:02:37.499 US/Central
User Name (User Id) 	
Request URL 	http://66.66.66.66./manage_findResult
Exception Type 	POSKeyError
Exception Value 	000000000001efce

Traceback (innermost last):

     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
     * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
     * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__
     * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
     * Module App.special_dtml, line 174, in _exec
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_With, line 76, in render
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 465, in renderwb
     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 773, in sort_sequence
     * Module ZODB.Connection, line 509, in setstate
     * Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 650, in load
     * Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 624, in _load

POSKeyError: 000000000001efce

Display traceback as text
REQUEST
form
btn_submit	'Find'
search_sub	1
obj_searchterm	''
obj_mtime	''
obj_ids	[]
searchtype	'simple'
obj_metatypes	['all']
obj_mspec	'<'
cookies
tree-s	'eJyLjlZ3hANPW/XYWAAtiQTP'
user_email	'asdf'
dtpref_cols	'100%'
dtpref_rows	'40'
user_name	'asdf'
lazy items
SESSION	<bound method SessionDataManager.getSessionData of  
<SessionDataManager instance at 8da00d8>>
other
BASEPATH1	''
PUBLISHED	<DTMLFile instance at 8294b60>
obj_roles	None
obj_mtime	''
batch_size	20
a_	6
BASE2	'http://66.66.66.66/manage_findResult'
BASE1	'http://6 66.66.66.66'
traverse_subpath	[]
URL1	'http://66.66.66.66'
SERVER_URL	'http://66.66.66.66'
skey	'id'
AUTHENTICATED_USER	
TraversalRequestNameStack	[]
obj_metatypes	['all']
AUTHENTICATION_PATH	''
obj_expr	None
obj_permission	None
management_page_charset	'iso-8859-1'
obj_ids	[]
rkey	''
obj_searchterm	''
search_sub	1
URL	'http://66.66.66.66/manage_findResult'
searchtype	'simple'
n_	6
obj_mspec	'&lt;'
btn_submit	'Find'
URL0	http://66.66.66.66/manage_findResult
URL1	http://6 66.66.66.66
BASE0	http://6 66.66.66.66
BASE1	http://66.66.66.66
BASE2	http://6 66.66.66.66 0/manage_findResult
environ
SCRIPT_NAME	''
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING	'gzip,deflate,compress;q=0.9'
SERVER_PORT	'8080'
PATH_TRANSLATED	'/manage_findResult'
HTTP_ACCEPT	'text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/ 
html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/ 
gif;q=0.2,*/*;q=0.1'
GATEWAY_INTERFACE	'CGI/1.1'
HTTP_COOKIE	'dtpref_rows="40"; dtpref_cols="100%"; user_email="asdf";  
user_name="asdf"; tree-s="eJyLjlZ3hANPW/XYWAAtiQTP"'
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE	'en-us,en;q=0.5'
REMOTE_ADDR	'209.244.242.2'
SERVER_NAME	'66.216.105.50'
HTTP_USER_AGENT	'Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US;  
rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312'
HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET	'ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7'
CONNECTION_TYPE	'keep-alive'
channel.creation_time	1047991717
QUERY_STRING	 
'searchtype=simple&obj_metatypes%3Alist=all&obj_ids%3Atokens=&obj_search 
term=&obj_mspec=%3C&obj_mtime=&search_sub%3Aint=1&btn_submit=Find'
SERVER_PROTOCOL	'HTTP/1.1'
HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE	'300'
HTTP_HOST	'66.216.105.50:8080'
REQUEST_METHOD	'GET'
PATH_INFO	'/manage_findResult'
SERVER_SOFTWARE	'Zope/(Zope 2.6.1 (binary release, python 2.1,  
linux2-x86), python 2.1.3, linux2) ZServer/1.1b1'
HTTP_REFERER	'http://66.66.66.66/manage_findForm'


On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 04:00  AM, Chris Withers wrote:

> BZ wrote:
>> Zope Version  (Zope 2.5.1 (binary release, python 2.1, linux2-x86),  
>> python
>> 2.1.3, linux2)
>> Python Version  2.1.3 (#1, Apr 15 2002, 11:13:45) [GCC 2.7.2.3]
>
> Moving to 2.6.1 will likely solve this...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
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From andy@agmweb.ca  Tue Mar 18 13:13:28 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 05:13:28 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Security settings for directory view'ed scripts?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030318131443.00a89420@esrimail>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030318131443.00a89420@esrimail>
Message-ID: <3E771B78.8030000@agmweb.ca>

Etienne Labuschagne wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Is there a way to attach security settings to a directory view script?  
> I'd like to be able to se security settings and proxy roles.

Proxy roles not yet, coming in CMF 1.4

Security settings add a .security file eg:

View:1:Manager,Owner

See examples in the CMFDefault skin.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From alet@librelogiciel.com  Tue Mar 18 13:19:59 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:19:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] performance problems
Message-ID: <20030318131959.GA25956@mail.librelogiciel.com>

Hi,

during a training session this morning, I told the seven students to 
install Zope on their personnal account on a Samba server from their 
W2K workstations but to run it "locally" through the network. 

network is full-duplex 100 MBits/s, workstations are 1.8 Ghz PIVs 
with 768 Mb RAM, server is Bi-Xeon 2.4 Ghz with 1 Gb RAM, and a 
raid5 array, under Linux.

When each student started his Zope instance, I found that 
performance wasn't impressive at all, and that Samba used a lot of 
CPU ressources. It worked though, and I see no error or warning in 
Samba's log files. 

Is it "normal" ? (this was the first time I used such a configuration,
the room is brand new)

Does someone use such a configuration ? What are the performances ?

AI suspect something abnormal because I use Samba since 1996-97 and 
I don't remember having seen such a CPU ressources use. My office server
is actually a PPro 200 Mhz with 128 Mb RAM and serves 8 stations without
problems (not with Zope, though)

On the other hand this may be that the way Zope uses the ZODB, 
particularly at startup time, is really ressource intensive on the 
Samba server. 

Could anyone report similar or different experiences ?

Is there a parameter to change on the Samba server to improve
Zope's performance ?

Thanks in advance

Jerome Alet


From ra019837@ic.unicamp.br  Tue Mar 18 14:00:49 2003
From: ra019837@ic.unicamp.br (Leonardo Fernandes)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:00:49 -0300
Subject: [Zope] What wrong?
Message-ID: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br>

Hi,

Please, whats wrong with this code?

    <dtml-let est="_['\'./'+estagio+'/aula\'']">
      <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
    </dtml-let>

estagio is a valid variable (containing the value Aul00) and Aul00 is a 
Folder but I get the following error:

Error type - KeyError
Error value - './Aul00/aula'

How would be the correct way to perform that redirection?

Thank you very much.



From jason@nol.org  Tue Mar 18 14:07:30 2003
From: jason@nol.org (Jason Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:07:30 -0600
Subject: [Zope] What wrong?
References: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <3E772822.3080104@nol.org>

Perhaps if you omit the single quotes from the string.
It looks like ./Aul00/aula may be a valid key but './Aul00/aula' is not.


Leonardo Fernandes wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please, whats wrong with this code?
>
>    <dtml-let est="_['\'./'+estagio+'/aula\'']">
>      <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
>    </dtml-let>
>
> estagio is a valid variable (containing the value Aul00) and Aul00 is 
> a Folder but I get the following error:
>
> Error type - KeyError
> Error value - './Aul00/aula'
>
> How would be the correct way to perform that redirection?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>

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 and if you get a bad one, you will become a philosopher."    -- Socrates
Jason Bush  |  (402) 471-6517  |   jason@nol.org   |   http://www.nol.org






From ra019837@ic.unicamp.br  Tue Mar 18 14:12:47 2003
From: ra019837@ic.unicamp.br (Leonardo Fernandes)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:12:47 -0300
Subject: [Zope] What wrong?
References: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br> <3E772822.3080104@nol.org>
Message-ID: <3E77295F.3070002@ic.unicamp.br>

I have already tried it, but get the same error, only the single quotes 
disappear from the error message.

Jason Bush wrote:

> Perhaps if you omit the single quotes from the string.
> It looks like ./Aul00/aula may be a valid key but './Aul00/aula' is not.
>
>
> Leonardo Fernandes wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please, whats wrong with this code?
>>
>>    <dtml-let est="_['\'./'+estagio+'/aula\'']">
>>      <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
>>    </dtml-let>
>>
>> estagio is a valid variable (containing the value Aul00) and Aul00 is 
>> a Folder but I get the following error:
>>
>> Error type - KeyError
>> Error value - './Aul00/aula'
>>
>> How would be the correct way to perform that redirection?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
>





From jeremy.cook@ii.uib.no  Tue Mar 18 14:14:26 2003
From: jeremy.cook@ii.uib.no (Jeremy Cook)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:14:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.6 and TimetableColspan
Message-ID: <3E7729C2.50005@ii.uib.no>

Hi,

I am trying to use TimetableColspan 0.4 and Schedule 0.4 with Zope 2.6.1.

I am getting an error:  AttributeError: timetable

when I try to run the simple demo in the README for TimetableColspan. 
This has been discussed before in October 2002 but no resolution has 
been posted so I hope someone will be able to provide some insight.

The template code that causes this error is:

<html>
      <head>
        <title tal:content="template/title_or_id">The title</title>
      </head>
      <body>
        <div tal:define="tt_data python:[{'time_start': '9:00',
                                          'time_end':'10:00',
                                          'title':'Hello World!'}]"
             tal:omit-tag="">
          <table 
metal:use-macro="modules/Products/TimetableColspan/timetable/macros/timetable">
            Dummy text: a timetable goes here
          </table>
        </div>
      </body>
    </html>


And the traceback (from 2.6.0) that I get is:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.ZopePageTemplate, line 228, in _exec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 95, in pt_render
   - <ZopePageTemplate at /jeremy/tt>
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 186, in __call__
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 398, in do_optTag_tal
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 380, in no_tag
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 675, in do_useMacro
  Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 217, in evaluate
   - URL: /jeremy/tt
   - Line 10, Column 10
   - Expression: standard:'modules/Products/TimetableColspan/timetable/macros/timetable'
   - Names:
      {'container': <Folder instance at 8adab00>,
       'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at 0x86b948c>,
       'here': <Folder instance at 8adab00>,
       'loop': <SafeMapping instance at 89fae48>,
       'modules': <Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at 0x86e1bbc>,
       'nothing': None,
       'options': {'args': ()},
       'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at 89fae48>,
       'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://pinje.ii.uib.no:8080/jeremy/tt>,
       'root': <Application instance at 89521e8>,
       'template': <ZopePageTemplate at /jeremy/tt>,
       'traverse_subpath': [],
       'user': jeremy}
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 206, in __call__
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 194, in _eval
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 150, in _eval
   - __traceback_info__: modules
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 367, in restrictedTraverse
   - __traceback_info__: {'path': ['Products', 'TimetableColspan', 'timetable', 'macros', 'timetable'], 'TraversalRequestNameStack': []}
AttributeError: timetable




I have tried with versions 2.6.1 and 2.6.0 with the same result. I am 
really trying to use the Schedule product but it seems that I need to 
get past this one before I can make any progress.

Thanks for any insight,

Jeremy Cook



From jason@nol.org  Tue Mar 18 14:30:07 2003
From: jason@nol.org (Jason Bush)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:30:07 -0600
Subject: [Zope] What wrong?
References: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <3E772D6F.7060603@nol.org>

<dtml-let est="'./'+estagio+'/aula'">
   <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
</dtml-let>

I tried some similar code and received the same error
when I removed the _[...] from the variable it worked however.

I hope it helps you.

Leonardo Fernandes wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please, whats wrong with this code?
>
>    <dtml-let est="_['\'./'+estagio+'/aula\'']">
>      <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
>    </dtml-let>
>
> estagio is a valid variable (containing the value Aul00) and Aul00 is 
> a Folder but I get the following error:
>
> Error type - KeyError
> Error value - './Aul00/aula'
>
> How would be the correct way to perform that redirection?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>

-- 
"By all means marry, if you get a good wife you will become happy;
 and if you get a bad one, you will become a philosopher."    -- Socrates
Jason Bush  |  (402) 471-6517  |   jason@nol.org   |   http://www.nol.org






From casey@zope.com  Tue Mar 18 14:42:46 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:42:46 -0500
Subject: [Zope] What wrong?
In-Reply-To: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br>
References: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br>
Message-ID: <200303180942.46883.casey@zope.com>

On Tuesday 18 March 2003 09:00 am, Leonardo Fernandes wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Please, whats wrong with this code?
>=20
>     <dtml-let est=3D"_['\'./'+estagio+'/aula\'']">
>       <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
>     </dtml-let>

_['foo']

means: "Look up the object with id 'foo'"

So Zope is trying to look up an object with the id'./Aul00/aula', which d=
oes=20
not exist. I assume this value is a path. In that case use:

<dtml-let est=3D"restrictedTraverse('%s/aula' % estagio)">
  <dtml-call expr=3D"RESPONSE.redirect(est.absolute_url())">
</dtml>

However, you should not use DTML for this. A Python script would be clear=
er I=20
think such as:

est =3D context.restrictedTraverse('%s/aula' % estagio)
context.REQUEST.RESPONSE.redirect(est.absolute_url())

hth,

-Casey

>=20
> estagio is a valid variable (containing the value Aul00) and Aul00 is a=
=20
> Folder but I get the following error:
>=20
> Error type - KeyError
> Error value - './Aul00/aula'
>=20
> How would be the correct way to perform that redirection?
>=20
> Thank you very much.


From ra019837@ic.unicamp.br  Tue Mar 18 14:58:24 2003
From: ra019837@ic.unicamp.br (Leonardo Fernandes)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:58:24 -0300
Subject: [Zope] What wrong?
References: <3E772691.3050005@ic.unicamp.br> <3E772D6F.7060603@nol.org>
Message-ID: <3E773410.1000804@ic.unicamp.br>

The solution below solved my problem.

Thanks for the help everyone.

Jason Bush wrote:

> <dtml-let est="'./'+estagio+'/aula'">
>   <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
> </dtml-let>
>
> I tried some similar code and received the same error
> when I removed the _[...] from the variable it worked however.
>
> I hope it helps you.
>
> Leonardo Fernandes wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please, whats wrong with this code?
>>
>>    <dtml-let est="_['\'./'+estagio+'/aula\'']">
>>      <dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect(est)">
>>    </dtml-let>
>>
>> estagio is a valid variable (containing the value Aul00) and Aul00 is 
>> a Folder but I get the following error:
>>
>> Error type - KeyError
>> Error value - './Aul00/aula'
>>
>> How would be the correct way to perform that redirection?
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
>





From Tejash.Patel@dowjones.com  Tue Mar 18 15:01:32 2003
From: Tejash.Patel@dowjones.com (Patel, Tejash)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:01:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] MS WORD AUTOMATION - newbie
Message-ID: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0A9F@sbkmxsmb06>

Hello all,

I am trying to automatically convert MS Word docs after I have uploaded
using WEBDAV/webdrive. I want users to be able to view the word docs with in
the site once uploaded. Has anyone ever done something like this, your input
will be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks

TP


From news@pernex.de  Tue Mar 18 15:12:22 2003
From: news@pernex.de (news@pernex.de)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:12:22 +0100
Subject: AW: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process / Redhat 7.3
In-Reply-To: <20030318141636.GJ20263@mc.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <001401c2ed60$c843e010$0f00a8c0@p5ws>

I did as you said but it did not bring me along any further.
I am relatively new at linux and really helpless with this topic.

I did=20

bash -x service zope start

The output is:

+ alias 'rm=3Drm -i'
+ alias 'cp=3Dcp -i'
+ alias 'mv=3Dmv -i'
+ '[' -f /etc/bashrc ']'
+ . /etc/bashrc
+++ id -gn
+++ id -un
+++ id -u
++ '[' root =3D root -a 0 -gt 99 ']'
++ umask 022
++ '[' '' ']'
++ basename service
+ VERSION=3Dservice ver. 0.91
++ basename service
+ USAGE=3DUsage: service < option > | --status-all | [ service_name [
command | --full-restart ] ]
+ SERVICE=3D
+ SERVICEDIR=3D/etc/init.d
+ '[' 3 -eq 0 ']'
+ cd /
+ '[' 3 -gt 0 ']'
+ '[' -z '' -a 3 -eq 1 -a zope =3D --status-all ']'
+ '[' 3 -eq 2 -a start =3D --full-restart ']'
+ '[' -z '' ']'
+ SERVICE=3Dzope
+ shift
+ '[' 2 -gt 0 ']'
+ '[' -z zope -a 2 -eq 1 -a start =3D --status-all ']'
+ '[' 2 -eq 2 -a output =3D --full-restart ']'
+ '[' -z zope ']'
+ OPTIONS=3D start
+ shift
+ '[' 1 -gt 0 ']'
+ '[' -z zope -a 1 -eq 1 -a output =3D --status-all ']'
+ '[' 1 -eq 2 -a '' =3D --full-restart ']'
+ '[' -z zope ']'
+ OPTIONS=3D start output
+ shift
+ '[' 0 -gt 0 ']'
+ '[' -x /etc/init.d/zope ']'
+ env -i LANG=3Den_US.iso885915 /etc/init.d/zope start output
env: /etc/init.d/zope: No such file or directory=20

Then I said: bash -x zope start

+ alias 'rm=3Drm -i'
+ alias 'cp=3Dcp -i'
+ alias 'mv=3Dmv -i'
+ '[' -f /etc/bashrc ']'
+ . /etc/bashrc
+++ id -gn
+++ id -un
+++ id -u
++ '[' root =3D root -a 0 -gt 99 ']'
++ umask 022
++ '[' '' ']'
+=20

zope:=20
: command not found
+ . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions

zope: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
: No such file or directory
+=20

zope:=20
: command not found
zope: line 16: syntax error near unexpected token `in
'
zope: line 16: `case "$1" in
'

Cheers,

Dominik

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. M=E4rz 2003 15:17
An: news@pernex.de
Betreff: Re: [Zope] Problems starting zope server on boot process /
Redhat 7.3

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:42:58PM +0100, news@pernex.de mailed:
> Hallo Bryan,
>=20
> I just put the scripts in here. Just checked all the file locations.
> They seem to be ok. However I did not find=20
>=20
> zProcessManager.pid and
> zwatchdog.pid
>=20
> on my running Zope which I started manually. I commented them out on
my
> system.
>=20
> Thanks a lot!

Can you try adding the -x flag to the #!/bin/bash and see if you can
follow
the script's output to find the error.
--=20
Bryan C. Andregg		Duke University Medical Center
 Programmer			Dept. of Anesthesiology
 e <bryan.andregg@duke.edu>
 p +1 919 684 6201



From CY" <cyhoong@pc.jaring.my  Tue Mar 18 16:13:11 2003
From: CY" <cyhoong@pc.jaring.my (CY)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:13:11 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Help needed for acl_users script
Message-ID: <003101c2ed69$ba3cf020$0101a8c0@amphora>

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Hello there!

I have a Zope251 installation and learning to do some development.  I =
want to write a simple form for managing users (add, edit & delete).  =
There is error return code.

A sample of the code is sample but it does not seem to work.  I have =
search FAQ for some clues but found none.

Can anyone give me a pointer here?

Thk in advance.


DTML Doc: AddUserForm
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
dtml-var standard_html_header>
<h2><dtml-var title_or_id></h2>
<form action=3D"AddUserAction" method=3D"post">
<table>
  <tr>
    <td>Enter your name: </td>
    <td><input type=3Dtext name=3Dusername value=3D"your name"></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>Enter your password: </td>
    <td><input type=3Dpassword name=3Dpassword_1 ></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>Confirm your name: </td>
    <td><input type=3Dpassword name=3Dpassword_2></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>Enter your role: </td>
    <td><input type=3Dtext name=3Drole_1></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td>Enter your domain: </td>
    <td><input type=3Dtext name=3Ddomain_1></td>
  </tr>
  <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
  <tr>
    <td>&nbsp;<br></td>
    <td><input type=3Dsubmit name=3Dsubmit value=3D"Add User"></td>
  </tr>

<dtml-var standard_html_footer>

DTML Method
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
<dtml-if expr=3D"password_1 =3D=3D password_2">

  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('name','<dtml-var username>')">
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('password','<dtml-var password_1>')">
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('confirm','<password_1>')">
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('roles','<dmtl-var role_1>')">
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('domains','<dtml-var domain_1>')">
  <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('submit','Add')">

  <dtml-call "acl_users.manage_users(submit=3D'Add', =
REQUEST=3DREQUEST)">

<dtml-else>

 <h2> Please re-enter again - your password is not confirm </h2>

</dtml-if>

<dtml-var AddUserForm>

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charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello there!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a Zope251 installation =
and&nbsp;learning to=20
do some development.&nbsp; I want to write a simple form for managing =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A sample of the code is sample but it =
does not seem=20
to work.&nbsp; I have search FAQ for some clues but found =
none.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can anyone give me a pointer =
here?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thk in advance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DTML Doc: AddUserForm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FO=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>dtml-var=20
standard_html_header&gt;<BR>&lt;h2&gt;&lt;dtml-var=20
title_or_id&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;<BR>&lt;form action=3D"AddUserAction"=20
method=3D"post"&gt;<BR>&lt;table&gt;<BR>&nbsp; =
&lt;tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
&lt;td&gt;Enter your name: &lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;td&gt;&lt;input=20
type=3Dtext name=3Dusername value=3D"your name"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp; =

&lt;/tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp; &lt;tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;Enter =
your=20
password: &lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;&lt;input =
type=3Dpassword=20
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&lt;tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;Confirm your name:=20
&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;&lt;input type=3Dpassword=20
name=3Dpassword_2&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp; &lt;/tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;Enter your role:=20
&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;&lt;input type=3Dtext=20
name=3Drole_1&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp; &lt;/tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;Enter your domain:=20
&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;td&gt;&lt;input type=3Dtext=20
name=3Ddomain_1&gt;&lt;/td&gt;<BR>&nbsp; &lt;/tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
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&lt;td&gt;&lt;input type=3Dsubmit name=3Dsubmit value=3D"Add=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;dtml-var =
standard_html_footer&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DTML Method</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;dtml-if expr=3D"password_1 =3D=3D=20
password_2"&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; &lt;dtml-call=20
"REQUEST.set('name','&lt;dtml-var username&gt;')"&gt;<BR>&nbsp; =
&lt;dtml-call=20
"REQUEST.set('password','&lt;dtml-var password_1&gt;')"&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;dtml-call =
"REQUEST.set('confirm','&lt;password_1&gt;')"&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;dtml-call "REQUEST.set('roles','&lt;dmtl-var =
role_1&gt;')"&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;dtml-call "REQUEST.set('domains','&lt;dtml-var =
domain_1&gt;')"&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&lt;dtml-call "REQUEST.set('submit','Add')"&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; &lt;dtml-call=20
"acl_users.manage_users(submit=3D'Add', =
REQUEST=3DREQUEST)"&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;dtml-else&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&lt;h2&gt; Please re-enter again =
- your=20
password is not confirm &lt;/h2&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;/dtml-if&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;dtml-var=20
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Mar 18 16:17:10 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:17:10 +0000
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError 000000000001efcd - Data.fs corruption
References: <562359CC-5941-11D7-B20B-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <3E774686.2030000@nipltd.com>

BZ wrote:
> I moved it all over to Zope2.6.1
> 
> Here is the error:
> 
> Exception traceback
> Time     2003/03/18 07:02:37.499 US/Central
> User Name (User Id)    
> Request URL     http://66.66.66.66./manage_findResult
> Exception Type     POSKeyError
> Exception Value     000000000001efce

Sounds like you have soem genuine ZODB corruption. Mindyou, I see it happens 
when you're searching a ZCatalog. Try re-indexing everythign and see if it's 
still there...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Mar 18 16:18:14 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:18:14 +0000
Subject: [Zope] What is the best user folder replacement for the following
 ...
References: <1047618213.4947.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <304770000.1047658225@daystar.control.com> <3E75901D.9050406@nipltd.com> <342820000.1047914461@daystar.control.com>
Message-ID: <3E7746C6.3090102@nipltd.com>

Dan L. Pierson wrote:
> Hmm, interesting idea.  I never thought of using a RAM cache manager to 
> cache user data.  Have
> you tried it?

No, but it's what RAM cache managers were designed for ;-)

If you're coming from SQL you don't even need them, ZSQL methods do their own 
caching...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Mar 18 16:30:56 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:30:56 +0000
Subject: [Zope] "root default view was probably deleted"
References: <3E7634EB.5030306@springfed.com>
Message-ID: <3E7749C0.6030604@nipltd.com>

Kent Tenney wrote:
> Howdy,
> I receive this error when I try to add a product from the ZMI.
> 
> What is "root default view", and where do I get another?

Probably means index_html in the root of your Zope instance.


> ======================================================================
> 
> HTML source of error page;
> 
> =======================================================================
<snip>
Read the HTML you're pasting :-(
That was the HTML for the ZMI frameset, and as such, of absolutely no use...

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Tue Mar 18 16:37:14 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:37:14 +0000
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions
References: <200303181151.55507.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <3E774B3A.8090404@nipltd.com>

Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> 
> My problem is that the corresponding storages are created at startup, but 
> there's never any object which is stored into it ; 

This isn't clear, can you try re-explaining?

>  - did I miss anything ?

Maybe ;-)

>  - can I setup DBTab for an already existing Zope site ?

Yes, but you'd have to be more specific abotu what you mean...

>  - can I use DBTab to store specific classes, like a whole ZCatalog ?

DBTab doesn't store anything, it maps storages.

>  - does the use of DBTab require any specific attention while writing Python 
> products ?

No.

cheers,

Chris



From info@netscape.com  Tue Mar 18 16:59:33 2003
From: info@netscape.com (info@netscape.com)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:59:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Netscape General Information
Message-ID: <200303181659.IAA1359946@grape.netscape.com>

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From mm56@cogs.susx.ac.uk  Tue Mar 18 17:16:50 2003
From: mm56@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Marek)
Date: 18 Mar 2003 17:16:50 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Login fails on all accounts (even init and emergency)
Message-ID: <1048007812.2428.14.camel@localhost>

Hi,

New user, hope you can help.

I've installed zope on a Mandrake 9.0 Linux system. I installed from
rpms (Nexedi's, via urpmi). I've tried setting passwords for inituser
and for an emergency user via zpasswd (which seemed to go fine).

Despite everything, however, when I try to log in to the management
interface it gives me a login window, which just won't go away. No
matter what username or password I enter, it immediately just responds
with a new login window (and hitting cancel simply gives me a "you are
not authorized to access this resource" error.

Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?

Anything you can tell me greatly appreciated,

Marek





From mguerrero@tachyon.net  Tue Mar 18 17:22:49 2003
From: mguerrero@tachyon.net (Michael Guerrero)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:22:49 -0800
Subject: [Zope] formatting dates
Message-ID: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCA0371C2@ex1.tachyon.net>

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=20
I am having problems formatting a date that I select from my oracle =
database.  The field is an oracle DATE field.  I want to display it as =
MM/DD/YY.  I have tried:
=20
<dtml-in sql_get_invc_date>
  <dtml-var invc_date fmt=3D"%m/%d/%y">
</dtml-in>
=20
The formatting works fine when I use ZopeTime but not when I use a =
dtml-var.
=20
I appreciate your help.
=20
Thanks.
=20
Mike Guerrero

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<BODY>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am =
having problems=20
formatting a date that I select from my oracle database.&nbsp; The field =
is an=20
oracle DATE field.&nbsp; I want to display it as MM/DD/YY.&nbsp; I have=20
tried:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&lt;dtml-in=20
sql_get_invc_date&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp; =
&lt;dtml-var=20
invc_date fmt=3D"%m/%d/%y"&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&lt;/dtml-in&gt;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The =
formatting works=20
fine when I use ZopeTime but not when I use a =
dtml-var.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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appreciate your=20
help.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D616251817-18032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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From nhavar@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 18 17:41:32 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:41:32 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
Message-ID: <F113ggESyeRbQLryh0A000351c2@hotmail.com>

I am running ZOPE with the CMF. On the CMF on DEV I have a document that is 
searchable as anonymous. I synced the file to the QA box and I can see it 
when anonymous but cannot search for it when anonymous. It will only show in 
the search results when logged in.

I've seen no differences in the security settings between the two instances 
and no obvious differences in the document. What could be causing this 
problem.

Has anyone seen similar issues?

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From nhavar@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 18 17:56:27 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:56:27 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Stupid Zope question for the week!
Message-ID: <F18jNCJ3xtZGQ5o5Oly00005d89@hotmail.com>

The problem that will happen when attempting to hook an XBOX or any other 
computer for that matter to the TV is that unless the TV is Digital or 
sufficiently large (over 32") text will be nearly unreadable and the highest 
resolution you are likely to get is 800x600.

I think that there's a whole host of other options for low profile PC's. 
Check out a site like linux-hacker.net. They talk about a bunch of lowcost 
easily modifiable (and some not so easily) computers that might meet your 
needs.

There are also a bunch of all-in-one (some flatscreen) units like the 
gateway profile, the old Compaq 3060 was nice and could be modified to hold 
newer equipment but it's next to impossible to come by. Some of these can be 
found on e-bay and other sites for relatively cheap and they're easily 
portable. Also their are the new shuttle systems out that are about the size 
or a shoe box (sans monitor). Get a shuttle box attach a handle, get a 
flexible keyboard and a flat screen and you could fit it all in a decent 
size backpack.


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From myzope@gmx.net  Tue Mar 18 17:53:18 2003
From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:53:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303122046130.13926-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303122046130.13926-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <3E775D0E.8060305@gmx.net>

Ed Colmar wrote:
> Thanks again for all the tips!
> 
> Heres what I ended up with for anyone else trying to do the same thing:
> 
> --------------
> 
> I made an external method:
> 
> def formsender(self, url, params):
>     """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an external
> server """
>     import urllib
>     encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
>     print url
>     print encodedParams
>     try:
>         result = urllib.FancyURLopener().open(url, encodedParams)
>         urllib.FancyURLopener().close()
>         return result.read()
>     except:
>         return 0
> 
> 
> ---------------
> 
> Then in dtml I placed this code on the page that the form points to:
> 
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('params', REQUEST.form)">
> <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('url','http://www.whateversite.com/cgi?')">
> <dtml-var "formsender(url, params)">

I'm a bit late to the game here, but haven't you just constructed a nice 
anonymizing http attacking engine? As I see it, formsender could be 
called through the web, so

http://yourserver/wherever/formsender?url=www.victimdomain.tld&params=bad_attackingpayload

would be possible, right?

cheers,
oliver





From excalibur@hub.org  Tue Mar 18 17:59:44 2003
From: excalibur@hub.org (Chris Bowlby)
Date: 18 Mar 2003 13:59:44 -0400
Subject: [Zope] conflict error
Message-ID: <1048010383.16419.4.camel@morpheus>

Hi All, 

 I've got a site running Zope 2.5.0, that is using a Mysql DB for it's
backend, in conjunction with some ZODB functionality in the front. I'm
trying to add some more files and folder and keep getting this error:

 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at
/test/manage_addProduct/OFSP/manage_addFile
INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at
/test/manage_addProduct/OFSP/manage_addFolder

 I don't yet know enough about Zope's internals to know what I should be
looking for... can someone give me an idea?

-- 
Chris Bowlby <excalibur@hub.org>
Hub.Org Networking Services



From shane@zope.com  Tue Mar 18 18:00:56 2003
From: shane@zope.com (Shane Hathaway)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:00:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
In-Reply-To: <200303181323.25316.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303181323.25316.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303181258210.3952-100000@shane.zope.com>

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Thierry FLORAC wrote:

> 
>   Hi,
> 
> I took a closer look at my DBTab product problems, and it seems that my 
> problem come from the fact that my mount points are not simple Folders, but 
> other custom classes, and it's that fact of generating the mount points that 
> creates custom "mounted" folders.
> 
> So my new questions are quite simple : what can I do to :
>  - create new classes that inherit from DBTab.MountedObject ?
>  - determine which available mount points are available while creating them, 
> to be able to create them as MountedObject or not ?
>  - find documentation about these functions...
> 
> Thanks for any help or advise...

You don't need to derive from MountedObject.  This email explains how to 
mount things other than folders:

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2003-March/018958.html

Shane


From ruger@comnett.net  Tue Mar 18 18:30:35 2003
From: ruger@comnett.net (D. Rick Anderson)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:30:35 -0800
Subject: [Zope] formatting dates
References: <E8D6BC248EB4A24A9E6859D9D1965BCA0371C2@ex1.tachyon.net>
Message-ID: <3E7765CB.8050305@comnett.net>

try:

<dtml-if invc_date>
  <dtml-var invc_date strftime="%m/%d/%y">
</dtml-if>

If you get back 'None' on an empty field with that it will barf, hence 
the 'if's.

Rick

Michael Guerrero wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I am having problems formatting a date that I select from my oracle 
> database.  The field is an oracle DATE field.  I want to display it as 
> MM/DD/YY.  I have tried:
>  
> <dtml-in sql_get_invc_date>
>   <dtml-var invc_date fmt="%m/%d/%y">
> </dtml-in>
>  
> The formatting works fine when I use ZopeTime but not when I use a 
> dtml-var.
>  
> I appreciate your help.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Mike Guerrero





From ashleylloyd@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 18 18:40:49 2003
From: ashleylloyd@hotmail.com (Ashley Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:40:49 +0000
Subject: [Zope] formatting dates
Message-ID: <BAY2-F1616KXzQt1aP50000d7e9@hotmail.com>

I'm only a newbie, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.

I had the same problem formatting dates retrieved from an Interbase 
database, and ended up writing a python script (which I don't have to hand, 
sorry), which took in the retrieved date, convert it to a string, split the 
string into year, month, day, and then returned a string version of the date 
in the format I wanted.
Something like:

myDate=str(aDate)
# Can't remember if the above was necessary, but if in doubt...

year,month,day=myDate.split('/')
dateString=month+'/'+day+'/'+year
return dateString

You then, instead of <dtml-var invc_date fmt="%m/%d/%y">
place <dtml-var "convertDate(invc_date)">

(This can be done better than this, but I am only a newbie, and it is off 
the top of my head, and all of my notes are in work!).

HTH
Ashley

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From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 17:32:38 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:32:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Attorney ERM/Groupware system
Message-ID: <20030318173238.GA4048@diamond.madduck.net>

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Does anyone know of a Zope application for attorneys to manage
resources, files, contacts, and also to provide standard groupware
functionality (like calendar and scheduling, todo lists and scratch
space)?

thanks!

--=20
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  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
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get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 18 20:26:01 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:26:01 -0600
Subject: [Zope] File content read
In-Reply-To: <200303170937.h2H9bS44008984@0hatton.dyndns.org>
References: <200303170937.h2H9bS44008984@0hatton.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <3E7780D9.4090801@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm searching the way to read the content of a file (ascii), from a script. The file is stored into a Zope folder.
>  
>
Sort of depends on where it's coming from. Filesystem or web?

But in general, you can just make a File object and let Zope do it for you.

One can also write an External method to get stuff from our filesystem.

          --jcc



From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 21:32:20 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:32:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C101@email1.mitretek.org>
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C101@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <20030318213220.GA27759@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Passin, Tom <tpassin@mitretek.org> [2003.03.17.2113 +0100]:
> Anyway, lynx does not support IFrames, does it?  So supporting
> lynx would rule out any frame-based apporaches.  Of course, some
> people think frames are evil, as well, and probably with more
> justification.

i make it a general rule to support lynx, which is why i believe in
server-side.

--=20
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  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
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From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 21:34:41 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:34:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <F65ZaendgjvM9KfYDov00040a96@hotmail.com>
References: <F65ZaendgjvM9KfYDov00040a96@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20030318213441.GB27759@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com> [2003.03.17.2205 +0100]:
> Sorry but what a complete crock of elitist crap. Javascript, just
> like any other client side code, has it's uses (and abuses).

give me a standard on javascript that works on most common browsers
and you win. in the mean time, i might think about javascript for
little sparkles and addons that appear to be needed these days,
since information has been replaced by eyecandy throughout the web.
those were the days...

> Yes there are alot of script kiddies and even professional
> designers out there that use the propritary extensions (both MS's
> and Netscapes) and cause sites to be inaccessible to certain
> users. I think instead of bashing the language we should advocate
> better use. Let's keep blanket statements like "XXXXX is evil" out
> of the groups and focus on helping developer create better more
> accessible content using ALL of the tools at their disposal.

okay, i'll shut up and listen.

--=20
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  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
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get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
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as the answer, the master did "rm -rf" on the programmer's home
directory. and then the c programmer became enlightened...

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From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 21:36:14 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:36:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030318004703.GB30386@ch208h>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net> <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h> <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch> <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]> <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch> <20030317193743.GA31943@diamond.madduck.net> <20030318004703.GB30386@ch208h>
Message-ID: <20030318213614.GC27759@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Mike Renfro <renfro@tntech.edu> [2003.03.18.0147 +0100]:
> Debian doesn't package LocalFS, that's true, but it doesn't need
> to. Unpack it somewhere (use /usr/local/zope/LocalFS if you want to
> keep everything separate), and symlink it into
> /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products as needed.

I am doing this. Still, it needs write-access to /usr, which
I absolutely detest. Debian's philosophy and strength stems from the
fact that only dpkg may write to /usr.

> Debian won't stop you from running LocalFS, and LocalFS won't stop
> you from running Debian. I installed it sometime around a year and
> a half ago, and it worked fine then.

i will have a look at LocalFS.

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From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:32:26 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:32:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <15991.36970.938416.591565@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

martin f krafft wrote at 2003-3-17 18:44 +0100:
 > my users need to publish files from the local filesystem, which
 > change very frequently and automatically. moreover, these files are
 > in the users' homedirectories, so an external filesystem view
 > doesn't work since it is confined to $ZOPEROOT.

I am not aware that "LocalFS" restricts to "ZOPEROOT"
(also not doing it is quite a security risk).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 20:22:50 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:22:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <20030317212232.GA5888@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
References: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
 <20030317212232.GA5888@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>
Message-ID: <15991.32794.3927.772453@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Nicolas =C9vrard wrote at 2003-3-17 22:22 +0100:
 > ...
 > And if you have a reason why access to the owner of an object is not
 > visible unless I use a proxied script I would really be glad to read i=
t.

It is protected by a permission.

And as with all permissions, you must either grant them to
the users that need them or you have a special script with
a proxie role.

I do not argue whether the set of methods protected by
the one protecting protecting "owner_info" is senseful.
It heavily depends on the application domain, in general.
And it is not worth to argue about it, as you always can
use the proxie role approach.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:44:43 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:44:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] session_data Users Online?
In-Reply-To: <1047984641.3e76fa0190c07@webmail.t-online.de>
References: <1047984641.3e76fa0190c07@webmail.t-online.de>
Message-ID: <15991.37707.428019.903305@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

centershock@t-online.de wrote at 2003-3-18 12:04 +0100:
 > Ahoi... Remark ahead, I know that "http" is a connectionless protocol,
 > but does somebody know a hack to find out how many users are online in
 > Zope!?! I cheked out the Session Modules in Products but can't find a
 > Methode that works. For hints or a tutorial_link I'm very gratefully to
 > you all. Oki, have a nice day and remember... Support the newbies, they
 > are resources for the future.

Do you also know that this is a FAQ?

And that you find tons of answers when you search the mailing list
archives?


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:43:46 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:43:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>
Message-ID: <15991.37650.334545.89409@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-18 10:35 +0100:
 > I'm still bothered with the misbehaving ZopeTime object. If you could 
 > give me further debugging tips i would be very thankful.
 > ...
 > As an example of several errors take this one:
 > http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker
 > The issue tracker needs a catalog. With a clean catalog there are no 
 > errors, but with a fresh built one i get this error:
 > 
 > Traceback (innermost last):
 > 
 > ....
 >      * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 416, in 
 > render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
 >      * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 134, in __call__

Again, it looks as if this DTMLDocument" were called without
the necessary positional arguments.

Look at line 416 of ZWikiPage and check the call there.

DTML objects (usually) require 2 positional arguments
(called "client" and "REQUEST").
"client" is necessary to find basic infrastructure
such as "ZopeTime".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:49:48 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:49:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] MS WORD AUTOMATION - newbie
In-Reply-To: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0A9F@sbkmxsmb06>
References: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0A9F@sbkmxsmb06>
Message-ID: <15991.38012.812490.306190@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Patel, Tejash wrote at 2003-3-18 10:01 -0500:
 > I am trying to automatically convert MS Word docs after I have uploaded
 > using WEBDAV/webdrive. I want users to be able to view the word docs with in
 > the site once uploaded. Has anyone ever done something like this, your input
 > will be greatly appreciated. 

Have a look at the Kaivo Document Library.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:39:44 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:39:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is Logout actually impossible? (ExUserFolder)
In-Reply-To: <b55gjn$ag2$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b55gjn$ag2$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <15991.37408.922551.376196@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Crosbie Fitch wrote at 2003-3-17 22:04 -0000:
 > Is it just me, or is logout actually impossible?

It is possible when you use cookie authentication.

It is possible but unhandy when you use basic authentication.

Please read the "Web Publishing" section of

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

to learn about cookie and basic authentication.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:47:17 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:47:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] performance problems
In-Reply-To: <20030318131959.GA25956@mail.librelogiciel.com>
References: <20030318131959.GA25956@mail.librelogiciel.com>
Message-ID: <15991.37861.96112.29761@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jerome Alet wrote at 2003-3-18 14:19 +0100:
 > during a training session this morning, I told the seven students to 
 > install Zope on their personnal account on a Samba server from their 
 > W2K workstations but to run it "locally" through the network. 
 > 
 > network is full-duplex 100 MBits/s, workstations are 1.8 Ghz PIVs 
 > with 768 Mb RAM, server is Bi-Xeon 2.4 Ghz with 1 Gb RAM, and a 
 > raid5 array, under Linux.
 > 
 > When each student started his Zope instance, I found that 
 > performance wasn't impressive at all, and that Samba used a lot of 
 > CPU ressources. It worked though, and I see no error or warning in 
 > Samba's log files. 
 > 
 > Is it "normal" ? (this was the first time I used such a configuration,
 > the room is brand new)

It is not unusual:

  When Zope starts, it reads hundreds of Python sources,
  "*.pyc" files and loads shard objects.
  That takes quite some time...

  When Zope starts, it must read the complete "Data.fs" to
  build its index (unless an index had been written on
  shutdown). Depending on the size of "Data.fs"
  this can take quite long.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:34:40 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:34:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Performance problem with zpscopgda
In-Reply-To: <1047925708.10802.808.camel@flmrroach>
References: <1047925708.10802.808.camel@flmrroach>
Message-ID: <15991.37104.977980.289988@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Roach, Mark R. wrote at 2003-3-17 13:28 -0500:
 > I am having a performance problem on my site that from what I can tell
 > (using CallProfiler) is related to a database query that returns about
 > 600 rows. 
 > 
 > +0.2430   3.3720   74.8%  | | | +- buildSelect   
 > +0.2474   0.0434   1.0%   | | | | +- fetchSelectData   
 > +0.2534   0.0016   0.0%   | | | | | +- buildSelectQuery
 >           0.0375   0.8%   | | | | | |
 >           3.3676   74.7%  | | | | |
 > 
 > It is a very simple query, it only fetches two columns from a single
 > table. Is it normal for this to take over three seconds (less than one
 > second from php+pear)? I have enabled caching up to 650 records for 30
 > seconds, but this doesn't seem to make any difference.
 > 
 > Does anyone have any suggestions for how I can improve this?

I expect that the rendering is quite costly.

  DTML and Python scripts perform a costly security check
  (it the user allowed to access this variable/method)
  on every access.

Try to implement the rendering in an External Method
and see whether it becomes faster.

I can recommend my "ZopeProfiler" product to
see precisely where Zope spends its time. See

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 18 21:00:08 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:00:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
In-Reply-To: <3E7605E4.4090602@agmweb.ca>
References: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>
 <3E7605E4.4090602@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <15991.35032.268218.821431@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Andy McKay wrote at 2003-3-17 09:29 -0800:
 > > I created a Virtual Host Monster and tried every possibilty in IIS to 
 > > rewrite incoming URLs but I really don't know
 > > 
 > > what I am doing wrong.
 > > 
 > > Can anybody help me, who had the same problem and solved it?
 > 
 > Have you seen this: http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ASP404 or 
 > http://www.zope.org/Members/hiperlogica/ASP404

Look for a HowTo from Volker Wend on Zope.org about IIS integration.

Volker thinks that IIS provides much better ways than the ASP404
approach.


Dieter


From nhavar@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 18 21:57:13 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:57:13 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: pulling from another website
Message-ID: <F49QQez1enAqpfkNsjU00004569@hotmail.com>

ECMAScript 262 - Mozilla, IE5/6, and Opera tend to stick fairly close to 
this, enough so as to be considered ECMAScript compliant. So that if you pay 
attention to the standard that you can write code pretty much oblivious to 
what browser it's going to be implemented on. If a browser doesn't support a 
particular feature like array.push, it's more than likely that someone 
already has a free prebuilt crossbrowser script that fills the void with no 
fuss.

Additionally if you're using javascript for the sparkly factor then your 
using it wrong, go use flash or java applets. WE use it in form validation, 
table sorting, row hit highlighting and client side pagination and creating 
lightweight user interface components like tabpanels. It works easily with 
about 5 major browsers and there's no "IF IE6" or "IF NS4" anywhere in code.

My point is that NOTHING we have today works IDENTICALLY in every browser. 
IE will render font's one size and moz another and lynx another. If your 
criteria for using a standard is how identically it works in each browser 
then you won't be using any standard. Additionally you have to design pages 
that should javascript/css/xml/xsl/whatever not be available that you have a 
plan B.



>From: martin f krafft <madduck@madduck.net>
>To: zope@zope.org
>Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: pulling from another website
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:34:41 +0100
>
>also sprach Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com> [2003.03.17.2205 +0100]:
> > Sorry but what a complete crock of elitist crap. Javascript, just
> > like any other client side code, has it's uses (and abuses).
>
>give me a standard on javascript that works on most common browsers
>and you win. in the mean time, i might think about javascript for
>little sparkles and addons that appear to be needed these days,
>since information has been replaced by eyecandy throughout the web.
>those were the days...
>
> > Yes there are alot of script kiddies and even professional
> > designers out there that use the propritary extensions (both MS's
> > and Netscapes) and cause sites to be inaccessible to certain
> > users. I think instead of bashing the language we should advocate
> > better use. Let's keep blanket statements like "XXXXX is evil" out
> > of the groups and focus on helping developer create better more
> > accessible content using ALL of the tools at their disposal.
>
>okay, i'll shut up and listen.
>
>--
>martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
>   \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
>
>keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
>get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
>
>a c programmer asked whether computers have buddha's nature.
>as the answer, the master did "rm -rf" on the programmer's home
>directory. and then the c programmer became enlightened...
><< attach3 >>


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From kent@springfed.com  Tue Mar 18 22:02:12 2003
From: kent@springfed.com (Kent Tenney)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 16:02:12 -0600
Subject: [Zope] "root default view was probably deleted"
In-Reply-To: <3E7749C0.6030604@nipltd.com>
References: <3E7634EB.5030306@springfed.com> <3E7749C0.6030604@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E779764.5080803@springfed.com>

Chris Withers wrote:
> Kent Tenney wrote:
> 
>> Howdy,
>> I receive this error when I try to add a product from the ZMI.
>>
>> What is "root default view", and where do I get another?
> 
> 
> Probably means index_html in the root of your Zope instance.

Indeed.

 From ZMI, I drop down the 'add' list of products.

When I select one, I am sent directly to the error.

If index_html exists, instead of the error, I get the index_html page !

The ZMI seems very broken, I am unable to add any products.

> 
> 
>> ======================================================================
>>
>> HTML source of error page;
>>
>> =======================================================================
> 
> <snip>
> Read the HTML you're pasting :-(
Sorry. Here's frame->source, doesn't seem to offer anything useful.


<html>
   <head><title>Zope</title></head>
   <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">

  <table BORDER="0" WIDTH="100%">
<tr VALIGN="TOP">

<td WIDTH="10%" ALIGN="CENTER">
&nbsp;
</td>

<td WIDTH="90%">
   <h2>Site Error</h2>

   <p>An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
   </p>
   <p><strong>Resource not found</strong></p>

   Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.<p>Check the URL and try 
again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b> no default view (root default view was probably deleted)</p>
   <hr NOSHADE>

   <p>Troubleshooting Suggestions</p>

   <ul>
   <li>The URL may be incorrect.</li>
   <li>The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.</li>
   <li>A resource that this resource relies on may be
       encountering an error.</li>
   </ul>

   <p>For more detailed information about the error, please
   refer to the HTML source for this page.
   </p>

   <p>If the error persists please contact the site maintainer.
   Thank you for your patience.
   </p>
</td></tr>
</table>
   </body>
</ht



From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 22:04:18 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:04:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <15991.36970.938416.591565@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <15991.36970.938416.591565@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030318220418.GA30290@diamond.madduck.net>

--YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If at all possible, please don't CC me when replying to lists that
I read. Thanks!

also sprach Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de> [2003.03.18.2232 +0100]:
> I am not aware that "LocalFS" restricts to "ZOPEROOT"
> (also not doing it is quite a security risk).

I confused it with filesystem directory view. sorry.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
linux is like a wigwam.
no gates, no windoze, and an apache inside.

--YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4
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Content-Disposition: inline

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Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

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26UyftW9cFPoW5FQ8Q8fd/0=
=uYr3
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4--


From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 22:41:51 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:41:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <b51lg3$74q$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030315115739.02349418@pop3.spa.norton.antivirus> <007101c2eb35$3fbed420$0200000a@SPIN> <b51lg3$74q$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20030318224151.GA29161@diamond.madduck.net>

--AqsLC8rIMeq19msA
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

also sprach Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de> [2003.03.16.12=
00 +0100]:
> If you want to set up a production-server, you shouldn't rely on the=20
> debian-packages for Zope anyway...

i cannot agree. i know many zope production servers running on
debian, and the admins are usually very glad.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
echo '[dO%O+38%O+PO/d0<0]Fi22os0CC4BA64E418CE7l0xAP'|dc

--AqsLC8rIMeq19msA
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Content-Disposition: inline

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TVvCFOgujI6PggXd9Eoqeuc=
=BABX
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--AqsLC8rIMeq19msA--


From madduck@madduck.net  Tue Mar 18 22:42:23 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:42:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: problems with init-script
In-Reply-To: <006d01c2eb2a$cbf3edf0$0200000a@SPIN>
References: <006d01c2eb2a$cbf3edf0$0200000a@SPIN>
Message-ID: <20030318224223.GB29161@diamond.madduck.net>

--VrqPEDrXMn8OVzN4
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

also sprach johan <johan30@easynet.be> [2003.03.15.2040 +0100]:
> I work on debian, and i am pretty new with zope (version (2.6.1) . I use
> the -deb vesion. It looks very fine, but I have problems with the
> init-script. When I do /etc/init.d/zope start, the server starts, but he
> keeps hanging on the points.

does it hang forever? or will it eventually complete?

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
english was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects
creativity of the human race (which, of course isn't a race at all).
that is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the
lights are out they are invisible.

--VrqPEDrXMn8OVzN4
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--VrqPEDrXMn8OVzN4--


From bobb" <rawbobb@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 18 22:43:48 2003
From: bobb" <rawbobb@hotmail.com (bobb)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:43:48 -0500
Subject: [Zope] OT: can I post directly to gmane.comp.web.zope.general?
Message-ID: <b587be$9b5$1@main.gmane.org>

using nntp, and not be on the list? or is gmane.comp.web.zope.general only
for reference?

TIA
Bobb





From cchoi@sonicsinc.com  Tue Mar 18 23:26:23 2003
From: cchoi@sonicsinc.com (Charles Y. Choi)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:26:23 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
Message-ID: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com>

Folks -

Noticing that the manage function with Zope 2.5.1 and  Mozilla 1.3 do 
_not_ work together.
I recall that even with earlier builds, Mozilla wants case sensitivity 
with some aspect of authentication,
whereas the RFC doesn't have that restriction - Will upgrading Zope fix 
this problem?

Thanks!

-Charles




From linde@inline-info.nl  Tue Mar 18 23:34:21 2003
From: linde@inline-info.nl (Henny van der Linde)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:34:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] weird problem with exuserfolder/zclasses
Message-ID: <002b01c2eda6$eb4fe130$0b01a8c0@INLINE1>

Hi,

We have build  a sort of cmf with a lot of Zclasses. For over a year this
worked without any problems (Zope 2.5.0).
The properties of these classes are manipulated from our own user
interface/cmf with python scripts with statements like this:

context.propertysheets.properties.manage_changeProperties(xxxxx=xxxx)

Now we have to implement a project where we have to use exuserfolder. Now
things are going wrong.

We get the following (see below, also when the user has the manager role)
error when we edit the properties  with our own interface.
However in the manageinterface of Zope we can change the properties with
authentication from exuserfolder.
The weird thing is that with the standard user folder it works fine from
within our applications.

Any thoughts?

Henny van der Linde

------------------------
<td width="90%">
  <h2>Zope Error</h2>
  <p>Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.</p>

  <p>
  <strong>Error Type: UnpickleableError</strong><br>
  <strong>Error Value: Cannot pickle <extension class
Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper at 01035140> objects</strong><br>
  </p>

  <hr noshade>

  <p>Troubleshooting Suggestions</p>

  <ul>
    <li>The URL may be incorrect.</li>
  <li>The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.</li>
  <li>A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an
error.</li>
  </ul>

  <p>For more detailed information about the error, please
  refer to the HTML source for this page.
  </p>

  <p>If the error persists please contact the site maintainer.
  Thank you for your patience.
  </p>
</td></tr>
</table>


</body></html>

<PRE>
Traceback (innermost last):
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line
150, in publish_module
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line
114, in publish
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 158, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
    (Object: 1042151803)
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line
102, in publish
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 172, in
commit
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZODB\Transaction.py, line 233,
in commit
  File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZODB\Connection.py, line 345,
in commit
    (Info: (('*AKWZWZ/vcgP3z+BlYojrlQ==', 'Item'),
'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\xd1\x1c', ''))
UnpickleableError: (see above)

</PRE>

-----------------------------------





From bobb" <rawbobb@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 19 00:05:42 2003
From: bobb" <rawbobb@hotmail.com (bobb)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:05:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: can I post directly to gmane.comp.web.zope.general?
References: <b587be$9b5$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <b58c50$u4t$1@main.gmane.org>

Yes, you can, but the list won't see it.

"bobb" <rawbobb@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b587be$9b5$1@main.gmane.org...
> using nntp, and not be on the list? or is gmane.comp.web.zope.general only
> for reference?
>
> TIA
> Bobb
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Wed Mar 19 00:57:20 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:57:20 +1200
Subject: [Zope] formatting dates
In-Reply-To: <3E7765CB.8050305@comnett.net>
References: <3E7765CB.8050305@comnett.net>
Message-ID: <3E77C070.80501@d-designz.co.nz>

Or to concatenate it to one command:
<dtml-var invc_date fmt="%m/%d/%y" null="">

I'll assume you meant 'fmt' instead of 'strftime' ;)

D. Rick Anderson wrote:

>try:
>
><dtml-if invc_date>
>  <dtml-var invc_date strftime="%m/%d/%y">
></dtml-if>
>
>If you get back 'None' on an empty field with that it will barf, hence 
>the 'if's.
>
>Rick
>
>Michael Guerrero wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hello,
>> 
>>I am having problems formatting a date that I select from my oracle 
>>database.  The field is an oracle DATE field.  I want to display it as
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>MM/DD/YY.  I have tried:
>> 
>><dtml-in sql_get_invc_date>
>>  <dtml-var invc_date fmt="%m/%d/%y">
>></dtml-in>
>> 
>>The formatting works fine when I use ZopeTime but not when I use a 
>>dtml-var.
>> 
>>I appreciate your help.
>> 
>>Thanks.
>> 
>>Mike Guerrero
>>    
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>  
>



From chris@d-designz.co.nz  Wed Mar 19 01:02:57 2003
From: chris@d-designz.co.nz (Chris Beaven)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:02:57 +1200
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com>
Message-ID: <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz>

Hrm, I've got Moz 1.3 (Win32) and have been connecting just fine to my 
2.5.1 server... (and 2.6.1 test server)
What is "not working" exactly?

Charles Y. Choi wrote:

>Folks -
>
>Noticing that the manage function with Zope 2.5.1 and  Mozilla 1.3 do 
>_not_ work together.
>I recall that even with earlier builds, Mozilla wants case sensitivity 
>with some aspect of authentication,
>whereas the RFC doesn't have that restriction - Will upgrading Zope fix 
>this problem?
>
>Thanks!
>
>-Charles
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists - 
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>  
>



From maxm@mxm.dk  Wed Mar 19 00:59:01 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 01:59:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com> <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz>
Message-ID: <3E77C0D5.3080800@mxm.dk>

Chris Beaven wrote:

> Hrm, I've got Moz 1.3 (Win32) and have been connecting just fine to my 
> 2.5.1 server... (and 2.6.1 test server)  What is "not working" exactly?


I am using Mozilla almost exclusively, and I have no problems. I am not 
yet running 1.3 final, but 1.3 RC3 runs nicely.

regards Max M



From cchoi@sonicsinc.com  Wed Mar 19 01:11:23 2003
From: cchoi@sonicsinc.com (Charles Y. Choi)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:11:23 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com> <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz>
Message-ID: <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com>

Chris Beaven wrote:

> Hrm, I've got Moz 1.3 (Win32) and have been connecting just fine to my 
> 2.5.1 server... (and 2.6.1 test server)
> What is "not working" exactly?


Sorry, my last message was not precise enough:

I get intermittent problems with instantiating new objects in Zope 
2.5.1. using Mozilla 1.3.  What will happen is
that I will get unrendered HTML code in multiple panes and a message 
that a global name is not defined such as:

NameError: global name 'SonicsBookmark' is not defined

where SonicsBookmark is a locally defined ZClass product.


Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

-Charles





From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 19 01:23:16 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:23:16 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZServer and MySQL: wierd behavior
Message-ID: <3E77C684.4000907@neurobs.com>

I found a strange problem on my install.
I run Zope 2.6.1 (Zserver) behind Apache 2.0 on a dual processor RedHat 
7.3 box and have a MySQL 4.0.1 db (uses InnoDB tables) that keeps my 
user data.

I have custom user folder based heavily on the mysqluserfolder product 
that authenticates users off the db.  

I also have a sign-up process that is a multiform page and uses 
transactions to insert data into the db (separate from the user folder, 
the userfolder interfaces for the same are just dummy functions).

What I saw was that if for some reason mysql deadlocked over multiple 
transaction writing to the same table (ie multiple users signing up at 
the same time on the site) and dropped some of the transactions, Zope 
just waited around forever and eventually became unresponsive. Apache 
then returns a 502 - Server overload/busy.

Once I dropped the transaction commands (begin/commit) everything worked 
smoothly.

What I would like to know is that if MySQL recovered gracefully why was 
Zope waiting around for the dropped transactions to return something.?

TIA
AM

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  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 19 01:25:41 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:25:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
Message-ID: <3E77C715.8090209@neurobs.com>

I followed the instructions here :

http://www.zope.org/Members/mjablonski/howtoPDF to set up on the fly 
html2pdf conversion.

the question I have is that do I have to have filenames ending in .html 
for it to work.

To view the error generated please see:

http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/index_html/html2pdf  on IE

On netscape/mozilla it pops up a box that says that the file doesnt 
start with %pdf

Any ideas as to what I can do about that??

TIA
AM

-- 
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 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
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From ed@leafe.com  Wed Mar 19 01:26:00 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030318220418.GA30290@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <BE6C19A8-59A9-11D7-912D-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 05:04  PM, martin f krafft wrote:

> If at all possible, please don't CC me when replying to lists that I 
> read. Thanks!

	Sorry, but Dieter and the rest insist that making the default for the 
list be 'Reply To List' is a horrible abomination of common sense, and 
that anyone with half a brain can go through the requisite gymnastics 
to correctly change the default to the one that is actually needed.

	I just get a kick out of all these idealists who defend that policy, 
and then either don't follow it themselves, or who constantly ask 
posters to "keep it on the list".

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
  Ed Leafe
  http://leafe.com/
  http://opentech.leafe.com



From nicoe@altern.org  Wed Mar 19 01:26:23 2003
From: nicoe@altern.org (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_=C9vrard?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 02:26:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Authentication problem with owner_info
In-Reply-To: <15991.32794.3927.772453@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030313184700.GA28498@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx> <20030317212232.GA5888@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx> <15991.32794.3927.772453@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030319012623.GA9480@smarties.nutellux.ath.cx>

* Dieter Maurer  [21:22 18/03/03 CET]:=20
>Nicolas =C9vrard wrote at 2003-3-17 22:22 +0100:
> > ...
> > And if you have a reason why access to the owner of an object is not
> > visible unless I use a proxied script I would really be glad to read =
it.
>
>It is protected by a permission.
>
>And as with all permissions, you must either grant them to
>the users that need them or you have a special script with
>a proxie role.

Ok with that ...

>I do not argue whether the set of methods protected by
>the one protecting protecting "owner_info" is senseful.
>It heavily depends on the application domain, in general.

Well don't really see how the information about who is the owner of an
object or so might be a security breach. I'm not a security guru so I
can hardly imagine how to trick the Zope Security System with such
informations.

>And it is not worth to argue about it, as you always can
>use the proxie role approach.

Yup, but I was wondering how did this protection came out ... Because
even if the script is really simple I see it as a "setuid root script"
and I don't like having those kind of things hanging around in my system
if they are not *really* unavoidable.

Because, for exemple if I need to access this kind of information in a
fairly complicated script, there may be some security issues I don't
check and the script will be proxied =3D> A potential security breach ?

Anyway thank you for your answer.

--=20
(=B0>  Nicolas =C9vrard
/ )  Li=E8ge - Belgique
^^


From buenafe@virginia.edu  Wed Mar 19 02:05:44 2003
From: buenafe@virginia.edu (Kristina Quimson Buenafe)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:05:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
Message-ID: <000001c2edbc$0cf9fea0$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>

Hello,

I can't get AWStats and ZCGI to work on Zope 2.6 / Windows XP.  I pu the
contents of the uncompressed cgi-bin folder in C:\Program Files\myzope,
copied awstats.model.conf into awstats.myzope.conf, and copied the icon
folder into C:\Program Files\myzope.

I found a post (http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/1253535) =
that
said to do this:

-Install ZCGI
-Copy the cgi-bin directory to the root of your zope installation,
making sure the .pl files are in the root /zdirectory/cgi-bin
-Restart zope
-From the zcgi product you should have the extension mapping object in
your root and check that pl is set and present on your system.
-Next create a ZCGI script called awstats.pl
-Make sure that your /zdir/cgi-bin/awstats.conf.bak is renamed to
awstats.conf and edited correctly to find your zope logfile:
/zdir/var/Z2.log

I did that but I don't know how to check whether pl is set and present =
on my
system, and didn't see a file called awstats.conf.bak.

Traceback is as follows:

ValueError

Sorry, a site error occurred.

Traceback (innermost last):=20

Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module=20
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish=20
Module Zope, line 171, in zpublisher_exception_hook=20
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish=20
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply=20
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object=20
Module Products.ZCGI.ZCGI, line 265, in index_html=20
Module Products.ZCGI.ZCGI, line 439, in _getFileAndHandler=20
ValueError: There is no cgi-bin program with the rootname with an =
extension
matching those in the ZCGIExtensionMap (Also, an error occurred while
attempting to render the standard error message.)=20

Thanks,

Kristina

_______________________
=20
Kristina Quimson Buenafe
University of Virginia
Systems Engineering
434.244.9760
703.585.8384
kristina@virginia.edu
_______________________



From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Wed Mar 19 04:17:27 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:47:27 +0530
Subject: [Zope] LDAP user folder.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540630E50D@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,
=20
I want to use LDAP user folder in my zope(2.5.1) installation. I have
dowloaded the same and put that in the zope's products folder, but I am
not seeing it in the types' drop down when I access zope's management
interface. It is said in the installation document that ldapmodule.so is
required to use LDAP user folder, but I dont find any. Where can I get
the same and where should I put that in order to get it working? Please
help. Its a very urgent requirement. Thank you.
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Paul.

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D219431304-19032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I want =
to use LDAP=20
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drop=20
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installation=20
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dont find=20
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get it=20
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar 19 04:58:04 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:58:04 -0500
Subject: [Zope] LDAP user folder.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540630E50D@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <5E8248C6-59C7-11D7-B71A-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

you need to install the python-ldap package. this is clearly mentioned=20=

in the documentation.

http://python-ldap.sourceforge.net

jens


On Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003, at 23:17 US/Eastern, Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj=20=

wrote:

> Hi,
> =A0
> I want to use LDAP user folder in my zope(2.5.1) installation. I have=20=

> dowloaded the same and put that in the zope's products folder, but I=20=

> am not seeing it in the types' drop down when I access zope's=20
> management interface. It is said in the installation document that=20
> ldapmodule.so is required to use LDAP user folder, but I dont find=20
> any. Where can I get the same and where should I put that in order to=20=

> get it working? Please help. Its a very urgent requirement. Thank you.
> =A0
> Regards,
> Paul.



From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Wed Mar 19 05:06:16 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:36:16 +0530
Subject: [Zope] LDAP user folder.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12BD@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

Yes, I have installed the same. By default the installation directory =
'ldap' sits in C:\Python22\Lib\site-packages. Do I need to copy this =
somewhere?=20

Regards,
Paul.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jens Vagelpohl [mailto:jens@zope.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] LDAP user folder.


you need to install the python-ldap package. this is clearly mentioned=20
in the documentation.

http://python-ldap.sourceforge.net

jens


On Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003, at 23:17 US/Eastern, Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj=20
wrote:

> Hi,
> =A0
> I want to use LDAP user folder in my zope(2.5.1) installation. I have
> dowloaded the same and put that in the zope's products folder, but I=20
> am not seeing it in the types' drop down when I access zope's=20
> management interface. It is said in the installation document that=20
> ldapmodule.so is required to use LDAP user folder, but I dont find=20
> any. Where can I get the same and where should I put that in order to=20
> get it working? Please help. Its a very urgent requirement. Thank you.
> =A0
> Regards,
> Paul.



From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar 19 05:11:53 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:11:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] LDAP user folder.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12BD@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <4C4F10AF-59C9-11D7-B71A-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

you need to have the library in the PYTHONPATH of the python binary=20
that runs your zope instance. i do not use windoze so i can't help much=20=

more.

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003, at 00:06 US/Eastern, Paul Naveen Raj=20
Jeyaraj wrote:

> Yes, I have installed the same. By default the installation directory=20=

> 'ldap' sits in C:\Python22\Lib\site-packages. Do I need to copy this=20=

> somewhere?
>
> Regards,
> Paul.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jens Vagelpohl [mailto:jens@zope.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj
> Cc: zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] LDAP user folder.
>
>
> you need to install the python-ldap package. this is clearly mentioned
> in the documentation.
>
> http://python-ldap.sourceforge.net
>
> jens
>
>
> On Tuesday, Mar 18, 2003, at 23:17 US/Eastern, Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> =A0
>> I want to use LDAP user folder in my zope(2.5.1) installation. I have
>> dowloaded the same and put that in the zope's products folder, but I
>> am not seeing it in the types' drop down when I access zope's
>> management interface. It is said in the installation document that
>> ldapmodule.so is required to use LDAP user folder, but I dont find
>> any. Where can I get the same and where should I put that in order to
>> get it working? Please help. Its a very urgent requirement. Thank =
you.
>> =A0
>> Regards,
>> Paul.



From kedai@kedai.com.my  Wed Mar 19 05:47:59 2003
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:47:59 +0800
Subject: [Zope] pulling from another website
In-Reply-To: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317174649.GB23914@diamond.madduck.net>
Message-ID: <200303191347.59047.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Tuesday 18 March 2003 01:46, martin f krafft wrote:
> is there an easy way within Zope to pull data straight from a given
> URL and serve is in the context of the DTML document or ZPT file? so
> when a user browses a particular page on my site, Zope plays reverse
> proxy to obtain the information from another site, then displays it
> as if it were local. sounds like plagiarism but it won't be. it's
> related to my question of how to let users publish frequently
> changing files.


you might want to try http://www.zope.org/Members/kedai/KebasData

hth


From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Wed Mar 19 07:37:37 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:37:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303181258210.3952-100000@shane.zope.com>
References: <200303181323.25316.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303181258210.3952-100000@shane.zope.com>
Message-ID: <200303190837.38280.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Tuesday 18 March 2003 19:00, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> >   Hi,
> >
> > I took a closer look at my DBTab product problems, and it seems that my
> > problem come from the fact that my mount points are not simple Folders,
> > but other custom classes, and it's that fact of generating the mount
> > points that creates custom "mounted" folders.
> >
> > So my new questions are quite simple : what can I do to :
> >  - create new classes that inherit from DBTab.MountedObject ?
> >  - determine which available mount points are available while creating
> > them, to be able to create them as MountedObject or not ?
> >  - find documentation about these functions...
> >
> > Thanks for any help or advise...
>
> You don't need to derive from MountedObject.  This email explains how to
> mount things other than folders:
>
> http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2003-March/018958.html

Hi,

Many thanks : I've read your mail and tried your method, and everything works 
very well now !!!
I just have another little question : my old development database had a size 
of 2.8 MB ; I've "extracted" my ZCatalog from it to a new ZODB, and tried to 
pack the two databases : now, each of them has a size of nearly 2.1 or 2.5 
MB, which if "far" more than the original database, so my question : why ??

And another one : does the fact of splitting a Zope site between several ZODBs 
can have any impact (improvement or not) on the whole performances ??

Thanks,

  Thierry
-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Wed Mar 19 07:43:22 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:43:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
Message-ID: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

  Hi,

I currently use ExternalFiles to store files of my Zope site.
My question is : what is the best way to use ExternalFiles in a ZEO 
environment ??? 
Should I share the directory containing the files throught NFS, or sync the 
master server with ZEO clients throught rsync or anything else ???

Thanks for any help,

  Thierry
-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From Stefan.Loidl@lrz-muenchen.de  Wed Mar 19 08:05:31 2003
From: Stefan.Loidl@lrz-muenchen.de (Stefan Loidl)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:05:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com> <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz> <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com>
Message-ID: <3E7824CB.1010205@lrz-muenchen.de>

Charles Y. Choi wrote:
> Chris Beaven wrote:
> 
>> Hrm, I've got Moz 1.3 (Win32) and have been connecting just fine to my 
>> 2.5.1 server... (and 2.6.1 test server)
>> What is "not working" exactly?
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry, my last message was not precise enough:
> 
> I get intermittent problems with instantiating new objects in Zope 
> 2.5.1. using Mozilla 1.3.  What will happen is
> that I will get unrendered HTML code in multiple panes and a message 
> that a global name is not defined such as:
> 
> NameError: global name 'SonicsBookmark' is not defined
> 
> where SonicsBookmark is a locally defined ZClass product.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
> 

I've got similar problems with Zope 2.5.1 and Mozilla 1.3 under Linux.
Sometimes the HTML code is not rendered and sometimes a gif is not displayed.
I haven't got this problems if I use Mozilla 1.3 under Windows or if
I use the beta of Mozilla 1.3.

My first thought was that the problem might have something to do with
caching in Mozilla, so I disabled disk and memory caching in the Browser,
but this didn't help.

Currently I don't know where the problem is (Mozilla or Zope).

Stefan



From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Wed Mar 19 08:09:38 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:39:38 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Error while adding LDAP user folder.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12C3@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,


I am getting the following error when I try to add a LDAP user folder.
How can I go about it? Please help. Thank you.


Regards,


Paul.

=20

Zope Error


Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: 'ldap' module has no attribute 'initialize'


  _____ =20

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*	The URL may be incorrect.=20
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size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></H2>
<H2><SPAN class=3D739010708-19032003><FONT size=3D2>I am getting the =
following error=20
when I try to add a LDAP user folder. How can I go about it? Please =
help. Thank=20
you.</FONT></SPAN></H2>
<H2><SPAN class=3D739010708-19032003><FONT =
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size=3D2>Paul.</FONT></SPAN></H2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<H2>Zope Error</H2>
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'ldap'=20
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From florian.konnertz@web.de  Wed Mar 19 09:37:06 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:37:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <15991.37650.334545.89409@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de> <15991.37650.334545.89409@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E783A42.9030801@web.de>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-18 10:35 +0100:
>  > I'm still bothered with the misbehaving ZopeTime object. If you could 
>  > give me further debugging tips i would be very thankful.
>  > ...
>  > As an example of several errors take this one:
>  > http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker
>  > The issue tracker needs a catalog. With a clean catalog there are no 
>  > errors, but with a fresh built one i get this error:
>  > 
>  > Traceback (innermost last):
>  > 
>  > ....
>  >      * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 416, in 
>  > render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
>  >      * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 134, in __call__
> 
> Again, it looks as if this DTMLDocument" were called without
> the necessary positional arguments.
> 
> Look at line 416 of ZWikiPage and check the call there.
The log of the client object shows the raw text of the wiki page. This 
looks fine for me. Can you guess if it's ok? (Compared to other client 
objects?)

> 
> DTML objects (usually) require 2 positional arguments
> (called "client" and "REQUEST").
> "client" is necessary to find basic infrastructure
> such as "ZopeTime".
I understand.

AFAICS both objects exists correctly. What am i missing? Maybe you have 
another hint, Dieter - Which furtherdebugging measures could i do?


Florian


German users: this is also on 
http://www.dzug.org/ZWiki/DTMLDocument._5f_5fcall_5f_5f


-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From gotcha@swing.be  Wed Mar 19 08:23:39 2003
From: gotcha@swing.be (Godefroid Chapelle)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:23:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: OT: can I post directly to gmane.comp.web.zope.general?
In-Reply-To: <b587be$9b5$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b587be$9b5$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <b599co$m35$1@main.gmane.org>

bobb wrote:
> using nntp, and not be on the list? or is gmane.comp.web.zope.general only
> for reference?
> 
> TIA
> Bobb
> 

Yes, you can, but gmane.org will first send you a confirmation mail 
before allowing you to post though NNTP.




From cchoi@sonicsinc.com  Wed Mar 19 08:35:37 2003
From: cchoi@sonicsinc.com (Charles Y. Choi)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 00:35:37 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E7824CB.1010205@lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com> <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz> <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com> <3E7824CB.1010205@lrz-muenchen.de>
Message-ID: <3E782BD9.3000605@sonicsinc.com>

So here's an example of the unrendered code that shows up in a managed 
frame using Mozilla 1.3 and
Zope 2.5.1.

rc/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, line 533, in unauthorized 
Unauthorized: (see above) -->HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized Server: 
Zope/(Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3, 
linux2) ZServer/1.1b1 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:33:22 GMT 
WWW-Authenticate: basic realm="Zope" Bobo-Exception-File: 
/home/sonnet/zope/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py 
Bobo-Exception-Type: Unauthorized Content-Type: text/html 
Bobo-Exception-Value: bobo exception Etag: Content-Length: 1007 
Bobo-Exception-Line: 533 *You are not authorized to access this resource.*


This was in another frame:


, in traverse File 
/home/sonnet/zope/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, 
line 533, in unauthorized Unauthorized: (see above) -->
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Troubleshooting Suggestions

    * The URL may be incorrect.
    * The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
    * A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.

For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML 
source for this page.

If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for 
your patience.

HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Zope/(Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, 
linux2), python 2.1.3, linux2) ZServer/1.1b1 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 
08:33:27 GMT Content-Type: text/html Etag: Content-Length: 7428


-Charles




From josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch  Wed Mar 19 09:01:37 2003
From: josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch (Josef Meile)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:01:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Error while adding LDAP user folder.
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12C3@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <000801c2edf6$25caca60$db278481@eco8>

MessageThat means that you're using an old python-ldap module.
You have to update to the recommended in the documentation.

Regards,
Josef

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.web.zope.general
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:09 AM
Subject: Error while adding LDAP user folder.


Hi,
I am getting the following error when I try to add a LDAP user folder. How
can I go about it? Please help. Thank you.
Regards,
Paul.

Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: 'ldap' module has no attribute 'initialize'




Troubleshooting Suggestions
The URL may be incorrect.
The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.
For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the HTML
source for this page.
If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you for your
patience.



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Mar 19 12:36:14 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:36:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E782BD9.3000605@sonicsinc.com>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com> <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz> <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com> <3E7824CB.1010205@lrz-muenchen.de> <3E782BD9.3000605@sonicsinc.com>
Message-ID: <b59nr2$dlh$1@main.gmane.org>

Charles Y. Choi wrote:
> So here's an example of the unrendered code that shows up in a managed 
> frame using Mozilla 1.3 and
> Zope 2.5.1.
> 
> rc/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py, line 533, in unauthorized 
> Unauthorized: (see above) -->HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized Server: 
> Zope/(Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3, 
> linux2) ZServer/1.1b1 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:33:22 GMT 
> WWW-Authenticate: basic realm="Zope" Bobo-Exception-File: 
> /home/sonnet/zope/Zope-2.5.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py 
> Bobo-Exception-Type: Unauthorized Content-Type: text/html 
> Bobo-Exception-Value: bobo exception Etag: Content-Length: 1007 
> Bobo-Exception-Line: 533 *You are not authorized to access this resource.*

Hi,

seems to be a problem of Mozilla 1.3 final. Some code which handles 
pipelines while redirecting seems to got broken after 1.3b. There are 
already several reports in the Bugzilla. No Zope-Problem at all...

-mj




From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar 19 12:40:59 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Error while adding LDAP user folder.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12C3@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <09362F4A-5A08-11D7-903A-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

your python-ldap module is not compatible. you have to use python-ldap=20=

2.x or you need to downgrade to version 1.6 of the LDAPUserFolder.

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003, at 03:09 US/Eastern, Paul Naveen Raj=20
Jeyaraj wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am getting the following error when I try to add a LDAP user folder.=20=

> How can I go about it? Please help. Thank you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul.
>
> =A0
>
> Zope Error
>
> Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
>
> Error Type: AttributeError
> Error Value: 'ldap' module has no attribute 'initialize'
>
<image.tiff>
>
>
> Troubleshooting Suggestions
>
> =95 	The URL may be incorrect.
> =95 	The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.
> =95 	A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an=20=

> error.
>
> For more detailed information about the error, please refer to the=20
> HTML source for this page.
>
> If the error persists please contact the site maintainer. Thank you=20
> for your patience.
>



From lsh@wo.cz  Wed Mar 19 13:42:48 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:42:48 -0000
Subject: [Zope] how to get title property from python?
Message-ID: <3E6FFDAA0015270A@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

Hi all,

I customize STX and want to get from image property Title image description
in python script:

<img src="%s" alt="get_title_from(%s)">

Would you like to know me how, please?

Many thanks

J. Lukesh


From europython@python.org  Wed Mar 19 12:52:28 2003
From: europython@python.org (europython@python.org)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 12:52:28 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Call for Participation: EuroPython 2003
Message-ID: <m21y13ecxf.fsf@python.net>

The EuroPython Conference 2003 (EPC2003) returns to Belgium this June,
and the conference organizers are now accepting proposals for
presentations and tutorials.  We expect this year to be even more
successful, and we're not just talking about the Chimay.

We are looking for participation in the following conference tracks:
Python Frameworks, Python Language, Python in Business, Python in
Science and Industry, and Zope.  Track descriptions are available at
<http://www.europython.org/sessions/descriptions>.  The deadline for
submissions is Monday, April 21.

You can propose a 30 minute talk, a 45 minute talk, or a 2 hour
tutorial.  To propose a talk or tutorial, please visit the Talk
Submission page at <http://www.europython.org/Talks/callFor>.

For more information about the conference tracks, please contact the
track chairpersons listed at
<http://www.europython.org/sessions/descriptions>.  For general
questions about the conference, please visit the conference website at
<http://www.europython.org/>.  Also, if you would like to help us make
this year's EuroPython conference another success, please volunteer!
You can join us on the EuroPython mailing list at
<http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython>.

About EuroPython Conference 2003:

  EuroPython Conference 2003 is the premiere venue for meeting Python
  and Zope developers from Europe and beyond.  As one of the first
  community-organized Python and Zope conferences, the EuroPython
  Conference delivers the atmosphere and information developers want.
  The conference will be held June 25-27, 2003 in Charleroi, Belgium.
  Information is available at the EuroPython website at
  <http://www.europython.org/>.  For more information, contact
  <info@europython.org>.



From josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch  Wed Mar 19 13:02:50 2003
From: josef.meile@imes.mavt.ethz.ch (Meile, Josef Albert)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:02:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] RE: Error while adding LDAP user folder.
Message-ID: <30D44840B21B8B4F88F43AEF33D15C40072F3E@EX3.d.ethz.ch>

Hi,

please post your replies in the list.


>Hi,
=20
>Where can I get the latest python-ldap module? I have downloaded the
>present files from http://www.zope.org/Members/barryp/win32_ldap. Is
>there some other place from where I can get the latest? Please help.
>Thank you.
Sory, I don't know where you can get the latest windows compiled ldap
module. You could perhaps download the source and install it in your
python path (I don't know if this works because I use linux)


From lennart@regebro.nu  Wed Mar 19 13:05:18 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:05:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to get title property from python?
References: <3E6FFDAA0015270A@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)
Message-ID: <00cb01c2ee18$4509ef60$ceac4cc0@desy.de>

From: "Jaroslav Lukesh" <lukesh@seznam.cz>
> I customize STX and want to get from image property Title image
description
> in python script:
>
> <img src="%s" alt="get_title_from(%s)">
>
> Would you like to know me how, please?

If the image object is called "image", then you use "image.title".
To get HTML that shows the image, you can use the tag() method:
"image.tag()" It will set the alt to the image title automatically.
>From DTML or ZPT you do this by just calling the image.

<dtml-var image>
or
<img tal:replace="here/image">




From jean.baltus@africamuseum.be  Wed Mar 19 13:32:01 2003
From: jean.baltus@africamuseum.be (Jean Baltus)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:32:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How can I customize the advanced search form of a plone site?
Message-ID: <000501c2ee1b$ec536050$010a10ac@museum.africamuseum.be>

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 Hi all,

 

   

I was wondering how to customize the advanced search form of a Plone
Site. I've edited/customized the "search form" file in
portal_skins/portal_forms.

 

 I actually don't want users to see all the content types checkboxes 

 available but only a few ones.

 

The code that renders the list of (content types) check boxes starts

with:

  

 

 <span tal:repeat="type
python:container.portal_types.listContentTypes()">

 

 If I simply replace this line by the following:

 

 <span tal:repeat="type
python:container.portal_types.listContentTypes()[0:3]">

 

 (which actually only strips the list to its four first elements), the 

 search form doesn't behave correctly anymore: it seems to always 

 search in all the content types, even if the user has unchecked them 

 all..?

 

 Do you know why this is behaving like that?

 

 Do you know HOW I can pick only a few content-types from this list to 

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 -- Jean

 


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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;(which =
actually only
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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;search form =
doesn't
behave correctly anymore: it seems to always </span></font></p>

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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;search in all =
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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;Do you know =
why this
is behaving like that?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>&nbsp;Do you know =
HOW I can
pick only a few content-types from this list to </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>&nbsp;</span></font><font
size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>display?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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From jean.baltus@africamuseum.be  Wed Mar 19 13:38:35 2003
From: jean.baltus@africamuseum.be (Jean Baltus)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:38:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Need a way to prevent new members form subscribing DIRECTLY
Message-ID: <000a01c2ee1c$d6d2cf30$010a10ac@museum.africamuseum.be>

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Is there a way to delay the subscription of new members to a Plone site?


I would like to put new members on "pending state" and then give the
manager the ability to either

approve the subscription or reject the subscription. 

 

Is there a way to do this in Plone? Is there a product available to do
that?

 

-- Jean


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi all,</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is there a way to delay the subscription of =
new
members to a Plone site? </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I would like to put new members on =
&#8220;pending
state&#8221; and then give the manager the ability to =
either</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>approve the subscription or reject the =
subscription. </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is there a way to do this in Plone? Is there a
product available to do that?</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>-- Jean</span></font></p>

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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Mar 19 14:02:55 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:02:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Need a way to prevent new members form subscribing DIRECTLY
In-Reply-To: <000a01c2ee1c$d6d2cf30$010a10ac@museum.africamuseum.be>
References: <000a01c2ee1c$d6d2cf30$010a10ac@museum.africamuseum.be>
Message-ID: <b59stj$3ef$1@main.gmane.org>

Jean Baltus wrote:
> Is there a way to delay the subscription of new members to a Plone site?
> 
> I would like to put new members on “pending state” and then give the 
> manager the ability to either
> 
> approve the subscription or reject the subscription.
> 
> Is there a way to do this in Plone? Is there a product available to do that?

Please ask questions concerning Plone on the plone-mailinglists 
(www.plone.org). The zope@zope.org-mailinglist deals only with problems 
relating to the "native" Zope Application Server.

Cheers, Maik

-- 
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http://www.dzug.org/





From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Wed Mar 19 14:30:34 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:30:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope FTP/Browse utility
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EED65@PROSERV>

Hi,

I am building an app that will allow the user to ftp an image to the web
server to display through a web page. I looked at addImage but I wish to
avoid adding images to the data.fs file. I would like to have them place the
image within an "image" folder on the server. I have seen this utility out
on the Internet, I was wondering if there is a Zope equivalent. Thanks.


Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From jensd@media-meter.de  Wed Mar 19 14:47:32 2003
From: jensd@media-meter.de (Jens Dobberthin)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 15:47:32 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Export from 2.5.1 and import into 2.6.1
Message-ID: <1048085253.2059.7.camel@snoopy>

Hi,

does anybody know why the import of a ZClass-based product does not
work? I'm trying to import a product from 2.5.1 into 2.6.1 and always
get the traceback below. Any suggestions? Other Products will import
fine, just this one fails because it needs a class called 'iclass'. What
is this class supposed to do?

Thanks in advance,
Jens.

------
2003-03-19T15:36:07 ERROR(200) Zope Couldn't install DocumentPool
Traceback (innermost last):
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py,
line 637, in install_product
    (Object: Zope)
    (Info: DocumentPool)
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/App/Product.py, line
512, in initializeProduct
    (Object: Products.DocumentPool)
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,
line 79, in importFile
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py,
line 235, in commit
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py,
line 349, in _commit_objects
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py,
line 286, in commit
  File /home/jens/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,
line 147, in _importDuringCommit
ImportError: No module named iclass




From steven@mustang1965.com  Wed Mar 19 15:27:39 2003
From: steven@mustang1965.com (Steven Smith)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:27:39 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with tal:condition
Message-ID: <3E788C6B.7020803@mustang1965.com>

I newbie and need some help figuring out tal:condition. I was able to 
seperately get two tal:conditions to work on my plone site. However I 
haven't been able to figure out how I can 'or' the two conditions 
together. Can someone look at the conditions below and tell me how I can 
"or" these two together, so I can use in a single div tag.

tal:condition="not:here/portal_membership/isAnonymousUser"
tal:condition="python: (here.portal_url()!=here.aq_parent.absolute_url())"

Thanks,
Steven



From ssmith@mustang1965.com  Wed Mar 19 15:27:51 2003
From: ssmith@mustang1965.com (SS)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:27:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with tal:condition
Message-ID: <3E788C77.2080405@mustang1965.com>

I newbie and need some help figuring out tal:condition. I was able to 
seperately get two tal:conditions to work on my plone site. However I 
haven't been able to figure out how I can 'or' the two conditions 
together. Can someone look at the conditions below and tell me how I can 
"or" these two together, so I can use in a single div tag.

tal:condition="not:here/portal_membership/isAnonymousUser"
tal:condition="python: (here.portal_url()!=here.aq_parent.absolute_url())"

Thanks,
Steven



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Wed Mar 19 15:13:48 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:13:48 -0500
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <BE6C19A8-59A9-11D7-912D-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
References: <20030318220418.GA30290@diamond.madduck.net> <BE6C19A8-59A9-11D7-912D-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <20030319151348.GA5451@slinkp.com>

<voice mode="cartoon hero">
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sucking me in again... gahhhhhhhkkkk
</voice>

On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 08:26:00PM -0500, Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 05:04  PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> 
> >If at all possible, please don't CC me when replying to lists that I 
> >read. Thanks!
> 
> 	Sorry, but Dieter and the rest insist that making the default for 
> 	the list be 'Reply To List' is a horrible abomination of common sense, and 
> that anyone with half a brain can go through the requisite gymnastics 
> to correctly change the default to the one that is actually needed.
> 
> 	I just get a kick out of all these idealists who defend that policy, 
> and then either don't follow it themselves, or who constantly ask 
> posters to "keep it on the list".
> 
>      ___/
>     /
>    __/
>   /
>  ____/
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>  http://opentech.leafe.com
> 
> 
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From bryan.andregg@duke.edu  Wed Mar 19 15:25:10 2003
From: bryan.andregg@duke.edu (Bryan C. Andregg)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with tal:condition
In-Reply-To: <3E788C6B.7020803@mustang1965.com>
References: <3E788C6B.7020803@mustang1965.com>
Message-ID: <20030319152510.GQ20263@mc.duke.edu>

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> tal:condition=3D"not:here/portal_membership/isAnonymousUser"
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l())"

tal:condition=3D"python: here.portal_url() !=3D here.aq_parent.absolute_url=
() or not here.portal_membership.isAnonymousUser()"
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Bryan C. Andregg		Duke University Medical Center
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From jziniti@speakeasy.org  Wed Mar 19 15:49:17 2003
From: jziniti@speakeasy.org (John Ziniti)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:49:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [OT] Example of Forcing Type coercion on a DCOracle2 column?
Message-ID: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org>

Hello --

The DCOracle2 Documentation states that it is possible to force
type coercion on a result column to particular type, but does not
give an example of how to do this.  Does anyone have any
suggestions?  I am trying to force an XMLTYPE column into
a CLOB.

TIA,

John Ziniti



From dbasch@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 19 15:52:19 2003
From: dbasch@yahoo.com (Derek Basch)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 07:52:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope debugger root variable?
Message-ID: <20030319155219.51644.qmail@web20809.mail.yahoo.com>

I am stuck on a minor problem that someone here could
probably help me with. 

I am trying to simulate an HTTP request to the Zope
Server using the techniques described in the "Testing
and Debugging" chapter of the Developers Guide: 

>>> ZPublisher.Zope('')
Status: 200 OK
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python
(www.python.org)
Content-Length: 1238
Content-Type: text/html

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Zope</TITLE>

  ... blah blah...

</BODY></HTML>
>>> 

However, I am unable to get the simulated HTTP
requests to return anything: 

>>>
<p>"Sorry, the requested resource does not
exist.<p>Check the URL and try again.</
<p><b>Resource:</b>
http://127.0.0.1/Zope/index_html</p>
>>>

I do not understand why
(http://127.0.0.1/Zope/index_html) is being called
instead
of (http://127.0.0.1:8080/index_html)? Do I need to
set a
root enviroment variable or something before
simulating the request?.

Thanks Everyone,
Derek Basch




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From steven@mustang1965.com  Wed Mar 19 16:15:10 2003
From: steven@mustang1965.com (Steven Smith)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:15:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help with tal:condition
In-Reply-To: <20030319152510.GQ20263@mc.duke.edu>
References: <3E788C6B.7020803@mustang1965.com> <20030319152510.GQ20263@mc.duke.edu>
Message-ID: <3E78978E.5020109@mustang1965.com>

Bryan C. Andregg wrote:

>On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:27:39AM -0500, Steven Smith mailed:
>  
>
>>I newbie and need some help figuring out tal:condition. I was able to 
>>seperately get two tal:conditions to work on my plone site. However I 
>>haven't been able to figure out how I can 'or' the two conditions 
>>together. Can someone look at the conditions below and tell me how I can 
>>"or" these two together, so I can use in a single div tag.
>>
>>tal:condition="not:here/portal_membership/isAnonymousUser"
>>tal:condition="python: (here.portal_url()!=here.aq_parent.absolute_url())"
>>    
>>
>
>tal:condition="python: here.portal_url() != here.aq_parent.absolute_url() or not here.portal_membership.isAnonymousUser()"
>  
>
Thanks, I knew it had to be something simple.

Steven



From pieter@openauth.co.uk  Wed Mar 19 15:58:38 2003
From: pieter@openauth.co.uk (pieter claassen)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 15:58:38 +0000
Subject: [Zope] __replaceable__ doesn't make total sense
Message-ID: <1048089518.2175.9.camel@pc-dt>

Hello All,

I don't understand why method__replaceable__ should suddenly allow a
method to be replaceable? I see Chris that you have asked the question
as well, but I still don't get it.
1. Why is there no method.__replaceable__(why the concatenation?)
2. Where is this behaviour documented in Zope.

While we are on the topic, I still have not succeeded at doing something
very simple. All I want to do is to include the result of a rendered
object in another object so that I can produce content somewhere in my
zope tree(this content might inherit some other content from higher in
the tree) and then include that content in a display somewhere else (in
a place where the original content cannot be acquired).

file1
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var menu> This var is aquired from my parent
<dtml-var standard _html_footer>

file2
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var expr="/path/top/file1/file1.index_html()">This file is not in
my acquisition tree and I just rendered its output for your convenience
wrapped in a new header and footer!
<dtml-var standard _html_footer>

At the moment, I get a key-error telling me that file1 cannot find the
<dtml-var menu> item so clearly it is not acquiring from its own tree.

Thanks,
Pieter
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:20:07 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:20:07 +0000
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
References: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>	<3E7605E4.4090602@agmweb.ca> <15991.35032.268218.821431@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E7898B7.2050809@nipltd.com>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
>  > Have you seen this: http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ASP404 or 
>  > http://www.zope.org/Members/hiperlogica/ASP404
> 
> Look for a HowTo from Volker Wend on Zope.org about IIS integration.
> 
> Volker thinks that IIS provides much better ways than the ASP404
> approach.

Are you sure it's on Zope.org?

http://www.google.com/search?q=Volker+IIS+site%3Azope.org

...returns nothing :-(

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:25:04 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:25:04 +0000
Subject: [Zope] "root default view was probably deleted"
References: <3E7634EB.5030306@springfed.com> <3E7749C0.6030604@nipltd.com> <3E779764.5080803@springfed.com>
Message-ID: <3E7899E0.8070806@nipltd.com>

Kent Tenney wrote:
> 
> Indeed.
> 
>  From ZMI, I drop down the 'add' list of products.
> 
> When I select one, I am sent directly to the error.

Sounds like you're broken your Zoep setup pretty badly.
What did you do?

> If index_html exists, instead of the error, I get the index_html page !

That sounds like it might be an IE authentication bug...

> Sorry. Here's frame->source, doesn't seem to offer anything useful.

Indeed. You want the traceback out of the error log object.

cheers,

Chris



From tom_williams_2000_ca@yahoo.ca  Wed Mar 19 16:31:34 2003
From: tom_williams_2000_ca@yahoo.ca (Tom Williams)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:31:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Managing Users
Message-ID: <20030319163134.62993.qmail@web13501.mail.yahoo.com>

I am having trouble logging zope users out. 

How do you program zope to log someone one out?

Tom Williams


From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:31:46 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:31:46 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
References: <F113ggESyeRbQLryh0A000351c2@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E789B72.4050700@nipltd.com>


Michael Havard wrote:
> I am running ZOPE with the CMF. On the CMF on DEV I have a document that 
> is searchable as anonymous. I synced the file to the QA box

How did you synch it?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:35:14 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:35:14 +0000
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
References: <000001c2edbc$0cf9fea0$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>
Message-ID: <3E789C42.3000509@nipltd.com>

Kristina Quimson Buenafe wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I can't get AWStats and ZCGI to work on Zope 2.6 / Windows XP.  

Why are you trying to use ZCGI?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:36:46 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:36:46 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
References: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <3E789C9E.9020102@nipltd.com>

Thierry FLORAC wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> I currently use ExternalFiles to store files of my Zope site.
> My question is : what is the best way to use ExternalFiles in a ZEO 
> environment ??? 

Look at AdaptableStorage :-)

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:40:05 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:40:05 +0000
Subject: [Zope] how to get title property from python?
References: <3E6FFDAA0015270A@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)
Message-ID: <3E789D65.803@nipltd.com>

Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I customize STX and want to get from image property Title image description
> in python script:
> 
> <img src="%s" alt="get_title_from(%s)">

perhaps you mean something like this?

<img src="fred.jpg" alt="xxx" tal:attributes="alt here/?fred.jpg/title">

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:41:19 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:41:19 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope FTP/Browse utility
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EED65@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <3E789DAF.80203@nipltd.com>

McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> I am building an app that will allow the user to ftp an image to the web
> server to display through a web page. I looked at addImage but I wish to
> avoid adding images to the data.fs file. I would like to have them place the
> image within an "image" folder on the server. I have seen this utility out
> on the Internet, I was wondering if there is a Zope equivalent. Thanks.

AdaptableStorage / ExternalFile / LocalFS

...all strign to mind.

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:30:03 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:30:03 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Login fails on all accounts (even init and emergency)
References: <1048007812.2428.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E789B0B.2010309@nipltd.com>

Marek wrote:
> I've installed zope on a Mandrake 9.0 Linux system. I installed from
> rpms (Nexedi's, via urpmi). 

I'd recommend trying to build from source...

> I've tried setting passwords for inituser
> and for an emergency user via zpasswd (which seemed to go fine).

What files do you have in the root of your Zope installation or Zope INSTANCE_HOME?

cheers,

Chris



From ed@leafe.com  Wed Mar 19 16:44:29 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:44:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030319151348.GA5451@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <0D8E6C50-5A2A-11D7-912D-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Wednesday, March 19, 2003, at 10:13  AM, Paul Winkler wrote:

> <voice mode="cartoon hero">
> nnnng... must... resist... list... policy... argument...
> sucking me in again... gahhhhhhhkkkk
> </voice>

	I applaud your restraint.  ;-)

	I don't wish to re-open it, either. Just want to hilite all the 
problems caused by the very people who claim the current practice is 
ideal. Perhaps, just perhaps, an eye or two might be opened. Well, I 
can dream, can't I?  ;-)

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:46:33 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:46:33 +0000
Subject: [Zope] __replaceable__ doesn't make total sense
References: <1048089518.2175.9.camel@pc-dt>
Message-ID: <3E789EE9.2070903@nipltd.com>

pieter claassen wrote:
> 1. Why is there no method.__replaceable__(why the concatenation?)

Method objects in python can't have arbitary attributes.

> 2. Where is this behaviour documented in Zope.

There's a project on the Fishbowl, IIRC.

> While we are on the topic, I still have not succeeded at doing something
> very simple. All I want to do is to include the result of a rendered
> object in another object so that I can produce content somewhere in my
> zope tree(this content might inherit some other content from higher in
> the tree) and then include that content in a display somewhere else (in
> a place where the original content cannot be acquired).
> 
> file1
> <dtml-var standard_html_header>
> <dtml-var menu> This var is aquired from my parent
> <dtml-var standard _html_footer>
> 
> file2
> <dtml-var standard_html_header>
> <dtml-var expr="/path/top/file1/file1.index_html()">This file is not in
> my acquisition tree and I just rendered its output for your convenience
> wrapped in a new header and footer!
> <dtml-var standard _html_footer>

You can do the above with two page templates ;-)

file1

<html metal:use-macro="here/main_template/>

file2

<html metal:use-macro="here/main_template>
<body>
<tal:x tal:replace="root/path/top/file1/file1.index_html"/>
</body>
</html>

> At the moment, I get a key-error telling me that file1 cannot find the
> <dtml-var menu> item so clearly it is not acquiring from its own tree.

DTML is evil. Don't use it.

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:47:35 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:47:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Managing Users
References: <20030319163134.62993.qmail@web13501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E789F27.5040304@nipltd.com>

Tom Williams wrote:
> I am having trouble logging zope users out. 
> 
> How do you program zope to log someone one out?

Unless you're using cookie authentication, it's not Zope's problem.

HTTP basic authentication is controlled by the browser, and they decide when and 
how to cache basic authentication credentials and present them to websites.

cheers,

Chris



From bobc@p-wave.com  Wed Mar 19 16:47:37 2003
From: bobc@p-wave.com (Bob Corriher)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:47:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
Message-ID: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com>

I use html2pdf for several projects. I think I had a similar problem 
when using html2pdf on a Windows 2000 server. The solution was that the 
call to popen2 in windows requires a mode parameter to indicate that 
popen2 returns a binary stream. It looks like this in my external method:

stin,stout = os.popen2('htmldoc --footer " : " --webpage -t pdf --quiet 
--jpeg -','b')

Otherwise it is the same as the how-to.

If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.

Bob Corriher
P-Wave Inc.






From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 16:48:29 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:48:29 +0000
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
References: <003b01c2ee36$914e07d0$6501a8c0@KQB>
Message-ID: <3E789F5D.4050807@nipltd.com>

Kristina Quimson Buenafe wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I found a how-to in one of the Zope-list archives - do I not need to use it
> with ZCGI?  

What is ZCGI providing you?

How does AWStats process logs?

cheers,

Chris

PS: Please keep replies on the list.



From icarr@compxnet.com  Wed Mar 19 17:04:42 2003
From: icarr@compxnet.com (Israel Carr)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:04:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Unable to open manage page.
Message-ID: <D414AF1DAB5DD611BED20008C7C9D4E018EC4E@Mauldin>

I'm running the following:
Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3,
linux2) 
Python Version 2.1.3 (#1, Sep 7 2002, 15:29:56) [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian
prerelease)] 

When opening server the management page (10.1.1.1/manage), the screen shows
some objects in the main pane, the left nav pane is blank and the page
freezes.  I am then unable to connect to the server at all, even
non-management pages.  I must then restart zope and then everything is fine
until I try to open the root management page.  

I CAN go to (10.1.1.1/site/manage) and the mangement screen opens fine.  I
can click on the '/' link to up a level and the root management screen is
displayed but of course the left nav pane doesn't change.

Any ideas about this?


Thanks,
Israel




From steve@reidmcmahon.com  Wed Mar 19 17:05:31 2003
From: steve@reidmcmahon.com (Steve McMahon)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:05:31 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely
In-Reply-To: <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com>
References: <3E77AB1F.508@sonicsinc.com> <3E77C1C1.2020803@d-designz.co.nz> <3E77C3BB.1020504@sonicsinc.com>
Message-ID: <3E78A35B.4030200@reidmcmahon.com>

I've seen this. What (I think) is going on is that add form for the 
ZClass has the add method's name for the action. A BASE HREF in the body 
area has the full URL of the factory, terminating with a slash -- as if 
it was a folder. Mozilla then tacks the add method's name on the end: 
"...factory/add_method", which fails.

IE seems to do the wrong thing, (though it works) taking the name of the 
factory off the path, then appending the add method's name.

This does not happen all the time, it even seems to be platform 
dependent. But in my mind the villain is the BASE HREF's slash after the 
factory name.

I've fixed this by making my add forms figure out a correct absolute url 
for the add method. But it ought not to be necessary.

Steve

Charles Y. Choi wrote:
> Chris Beaven wrote:
> 
>> Hrm, I've got Moz 1.3 (Win32) and have been connecting just fine to my 
>> 2.5.1 server... (and 2.6.1 test server)
>> What is "not working" exactly?
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry, my last message was not precise enough:
> 
> I get intermittent problems with instantiating new objects in Zope 
> 2.5.1. using Mozilla 1.3.  What will happen is
> that I will get unrendered HTML code in multiple panes and a message 
> that a global name is not defined such as:
> 
> NameError: global name 'SonicsBookmark' is not defined
> 
> where SonicsBookmark is a locally defined ZClass product.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Charles
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Wed Mar 19 17:12:18 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:12:18 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Managing Users
References: <20030319170312.68719.qmail@web13501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E78A4F2.9060500@nipltd.com>

Tom Williams wrote:
> So, is it a good idea to use zope users, for the
> average website user?

Yes, but I don't see how that relates to the problems you're having.

cheers,

Chris

PS: Please keep replies on list...



From zoper@disturbance.dhs.org  Wed Mar 19 18:06:20 2003
From: zoper@disturbance.dhs.org (zoper@disturbance.dhs.org)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:06:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0303190958090.1925-100000@disturbance.dhs.org>

Greetings:

Background: I have been a Zope user and implementor for a couple of years
now, and have created a few non-trivial "applications" using DTML and
_very_ basic python scripting. I have recently expanded my Python
knowledge somewhat and have an understanding of external methods, etc.
Before Zope, my background has been solidly in the LAMP model.

Now, I am on the task of writing a much larger application, and I selected
Zope + Postgres rather than Apache+SQL+PHP.

Here's where I need some conceptual advice, and this highlights where I am
weakest: I really want to build this application in a more modular, OO way
than I am used to working. I am still using SQL to store most of the
information that is custom and specific to users. I want to structure this
application in a way that I have, say, a user object / class, with methods
on that object to handle all of the data operations, i.e. User.getinfo,
User.updateinfo, User.get_some_more_specific_info, User.create,
User.destroy - I'm sure you get the idea.

However, I am NOT sure of which of the Zope paradigms to go with in this
situation. It doesn't seem like ZClass is the way to go (if I understand
things right), because I am not going to be creating instances of users in
the ZODB. (Unneeded detail: I am using ExUserFolder so that auth
information etc. is in my pgsql database).

Right now, I am implementing what needs to be a prototype in DTML, but
it's already getting to be spaghetti, with UI and logic code all
intermingled. I am leaning toward creating big external methods for the
encapsulation that I need, but it just *seems like I am missing
something*.

I have read everything I can get my hands on, and just feel like I am
missing some top-level conceptual business. The docs all seem to be *very*
high level, or the opposite - deeply technical and syntax-specific.

Any comments, or pointers to the kind of info I am looking for?

Thanks for any and all constructive advice,

-------------------------
zoper@disturbance.dhs.org




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 19 17:34:36 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:34:36 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
Message-ID: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>

I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this morning. 
Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) The 
deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.

Any ideas??

The error:

Error:

    * Fault
    * <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: \nTraceback (most recent
      call last):\n File
      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
      150, in publish_module\n response = publish(request, module_name,
      after_list, debug=debug)\n File
      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
      114, in publish\n sys.exc_info()[2],\n File
      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
      in zpublisher_exception_hook\n log = aq_acquire(published,
      \'__error_log__\', containment=1)\nAttributeError:
      manage_listObjects__error_log__\n'>


TIA
AM

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From garry@joydiv.fsnet.co.uk  Wed Mar 19 17:52:17 2003
From: garry@joydiv.fsnet.co.uk (garry saddington)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:52:17 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Multiple database updates
Message-ID: <200303191752.17843.garry@joydiv.fsnet.co.uk>

I have a form which retrieves data from a database table and displays it =
for=20
the user to amend. Many records are able to be changed and i would then l=
ike=20
to be able to update all these records in the table. I can not find a way=
 to=20
do this as yet. Can anyone help?
regards
garry saddington


From shane@zope.com  Wed Mar 19 17:59:12 2003
From: shane@zope.com (Shane Hathaway)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:59:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
In-Reply-To: <200303190837.38280.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303181323.25316.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
 <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303181258210.3952-100000@shane.zope.com>
 <200303190837.38280.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303191252230.7682-100000@shane.zope.com>

On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Thierry FLORAC wrote:

> I just have another little question : my old development database had a size 
> of 2.8 MB ; I've "extracted" my ZCatalog from it to a new ZODB, and tried to 
> pack the two databases : now, each of them has a size of nearly 2.1 or 2.5 
> MB, which if "far" more than the original database, so my question : why ??

The Control_Panel stores about 2-3 MB of data, and each database has its 
own copy of the Control_Panel.  I wouldn't worry about it though.

> And another one : does the fact of splitting a Zope site between several ZODBs 
> can have any impact (improvement or not) on the whole performances ??

There is no measurable difference in performance unless you mount a large
number of databases.  The MountPoint._setDB() and MountPoint.close() 
methods are the issue here: they have to open/close all mounted 
connections, even if they won't be used in the course of a transaction.  
There are surely ways to improve this.

Shane


From kent@springfed.com  Wed Mar 19 18:14:12 2003
From: kent@springfed.com (Kent Tenney)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:14:12 -0600
Subject: [Zope] "root default view was probably deleted"
In-Reply-To: <3E7899E0.8070806@nipltd.com>
References: <3E7634EB.5030306@springfed.com> <3E7749C0.6030604@nipltd.com> <3E779764.5080803@springfed.com> <3E7899E0.8070806@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E78B374.8050902@springfed.com>

I am using Mozilla nightlies.

Taking a hint from the thread
"Mozilla 1.3 and Zope 2.5.1 manage not working nicely"

I tried with Opera, and all is well!

I never would have guessed a browser problem.

Kent

Chris Withers wrote:
> Kent Tenney wrote:
> 
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>>  From ZMI, I drop down the 'add' list of products.
>>
>> When I select one, I am sent directly to the error.
> 
> 
> Sounds like you're broken your Zoep setup pretty badly.
> What did you do?
> 
>> If index_html exists, instead of the error, I get the index_html page !
> 
> 
> That sounds like it might be an IE authentication bug...
> 
>> Sorry. Here's frame->source, doesn't seem to offer anything useful.
> 
> 
> Indeed. You want the traceback out of the error log object.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Mar 19 18:53:35 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:53:35 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5CB@desi2>

Or consider Intermezzo or similar fs if you are using Linux.  A
network-replicated distributed filesytem mechanism that replicates copies of
files to each cluster node would likely work for these purposes, without the
need to write any code to glue/map it together (and it would eliminate the
NFS latency and single-point-of-failure - which could, in theory, freeze up
your Zope instance by tying up each thread if your NFS server goes down).

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:37 AM
To: Thierry FLORAC
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO


Thierry FLORAC wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> I currently use ExternalFiles to store files of my Zope site.
> My question is : what is the best way to use ExternalFiles in a ZEO 
> environment ??? 

Look at AdaptableStorage :-)

cheers,

Chris


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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Mar 19 19:03:53 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:03:53 -0800
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5CC@desi2>

Performance-wise, wouldn't partitioning your storages have the _potential_
to be a win if you were able to distribute transactions onto different
ClientStorages on different dedicated ZSS nodes, assuming heavy usage?  At
what point does one want to worry about the ZSS as a performance bottleneck
(or should one worry at all)?  I've always thought partitioning via
multiple, mounted storages would be the answer, but I've never known enough
to confirm or deny this?

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Hathaway [mailto:shane@zope.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:59 AM
To: Thierry FLORAC
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)


On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Thierry FLORAC wrote:

> I just have another little question : my old development database had a
size 
> of 2.8 MB ; I've "extracted" my ZCatalog from it to a new ZODB, and tried
to 
> pack the two databases : now, each of them has a size of nearly 2.1 or 2.5

> MB, which if "far" more than the original database, so my question : why
??

The Control_Panel stores about 2-3 MB of data, and each database has its 
own copy of the Control_Panel.  I wouldn't worry about it though.

> And another one : does the fact of splitting a Zope site between several
ZODBs 
> can have any impact (improvement or not) on the whole performances ??

There is no measurable difference in performance unless you mount a large
number of databases.  The MountPoint._setDB() and MountPoint.close() 
methods are the issue here: they have to open/close all mounted 
connections, even if they won't be used in the course of a transaction.  
There are surely ways to improve this.

Shane

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From nhavar@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 19 19:11:22 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:11:22 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
Message-ID: <F67jtTfvMDHgHJXTIq80000715e@hotmail.com>

ZSyncer product


>From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
>To: Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>CC: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:31:46 +0000
>
>
>
>Michael Havard wrote:
>>I am running ZOPE with the CMF. On the CMF on DEV I have a document that 
>>is searchable as anonymous. I synced the file to the QA box
>
>How did you synch it?
>
>cheers,
>
>Chris
>
>
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From jmeile@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 19 19:31:29 2003
From: jmeile@hotmail.com (Josef Meile)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:31:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] RE: Error while adding LDAP user folder.
Message-ID: <DAV32US9O4TsvthlfFh00004b63@hotmail.com>

Hi again

> >Where can I get the latest python-ldap module? I have downloaded the
> >present files from http://www.zope.org/Members/barryp/win32_ldap. Is
> >there some other place from where I can get the latest? Please help.
> >Thank you.
> Sory, I don't know where you can get the latest windows compiled ldap
> module. You could perhaps download the source and install it in your
> python path (I don't know if this works because I use linux)

I just saw another detail in the page you mentioned:
http://www.zope.org/Members/barryp/win32_ldap

The author says:
"*** Sorry, I don't have a Win32 binary for py-ldap 2.0, and don't plan to
attempt to compile one ***"

and LDAPUserFolder uses python-ldap2.0.0pre1-4

So I guess you will have to use an old version of LDAPUserFolder, which
supports python-ldap 1.10a3 for your windows machine, or perhaps there is
somebody in the list willing to share a precompiled version for windows, or
there is something on the net.

I also found this link, they talk about using Cygwin:
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/1568/2002/1/0/7452037/

Regards,
Josef


From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Wed Mar 19 20:07:25 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:07:25 +0200
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
In-Reply-To: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com>
References: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com>
Message-ID: <200303192207.25839.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 18:47, Bob Corriher wrote:
> If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.
Have you good solution to use Unicode with it? I would not like to start 
coding a parser with ReportLab. But if no solution, I will... :/

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

"We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds."
(Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam
Linux Symposium)



From volker.wend@efgbsh.de  Wed Mar 19 20:34:38 2003
From: volker.wend@efgbsh.de (volker.wend@efgbsh.de)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:34:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
Message-ID: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D71@kommserver1>

You have to search for "zope behind iis" :-)   

I am not sure if this is a better approach, it is an additional way. 
http://www.zope.org/Members/volkerw/Zope%20behind%20IIS


It is a url redirect with variables... and everything. Unfortunatly, the
client the sees the VHM url. 

Volker




-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com] 
Sent: Mittwoch, 19. März 2003 17:20
To: Dieter Maurer
Cc: Andy McKay; TANNERT,CARSTEN (HP-Germany,ex1); Zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster


Dieter Maurer wrote:
>  > Have you seen this: http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ASP404 or  > 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/hiperlogica/ASP404
> 
> Look for a HowTo from Volker Wend on Zope.org about IIS integration.
> 
> Volker thinks that IIS provides much better ways than the ASP404
> approach.

Are you sure it's on Zope.org?

http://www.google.com/search?q=Volker+IIS+site%3Azope.org

...returns nothing :-(

cheers,

Chris


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From andy@agmweb.ca  Wed Mar 19 20:35:27 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:35:27 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0303190958090.1925-100000@disturbance.dhs.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0303190958090.1925-100000@disturbance.dhs.org>
Message-ID: <3E78D48F.3050000@agmweb.ca>

> Right now, I am implementing what needs to be a prototype in DTML, but
> it's already getting to be spaghetti, with UI and logic code all
> intermingled. I am leaning toward creating big external methods for the
> encapsulation that I need, but it just *seems like I am missing
> something*.

Write a Product and put all your logic there in Python, use DTML or ZPT 
to do your presentation.

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/Products.stx will help.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:37:38 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:37:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Export from 2.5.1 and import into 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <1048085253.2059.7.camel@snoopy>
References: <1048085253.2059.7.camel@snoopy>
Message-ID: <15992.54546.255020.916152@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jens Dobberthin wrote at 2003-3-19 15:47 +0100:
 > does anybody know why the import of a ZClass-based product does not
 > work? I'm trying to import a product from 2.5.1 into 2.6.1 and always
 > get the traceback below. Any suggestions? Other Products will import
 > fine, just this one fails because it needs a class called 'iclass'. What
 > is this class supposed to do?

There are some issues with ZClasses and Zope 2.6.1 upgrades.
Please search the mailing list archive for more information...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:31:41 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:31:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
In-Reply-To: <F113ggESyeRbQLryh0A000351c2@hotmail.com>
References: <F113ggESyeRbQLryh0A000351c2@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15992.54189.808250.219924@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Michael Havard wrote at 2003-3-18 17:41 +0000:
 > I am running ZOPE with the CMF. On the CMF on DEV I have a document that is 
 > searchable as anonymous. I synced the file to the QA box and I can see it 
 > when anonymous but cannot search for it when anonymous. It will only show in 
 > the search results when logged in.
 > 
 > I've seen no differences in the security settings between the two instances 
 > and no obvious differences in the document. What could be causing this 
 > problem.
 > 
 > Has anyone seen similar issues?

Looks like a workflow issue or a lost reindexation.

When you copy an object, it may enter its initial workflow
state and then not be searchable.

When you copy an object, it should index itself.
Maybe, that failed.
Try to force indexing by modifying the object.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 19:59:21 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:59:21 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <3E783A42.9030801@web.de>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>
 <15991.37650.334545.89409@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <3E783A42.9030801@web.de>
Message-ID: <15992.52249.921722.825974@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-19 10:37 +0100:
 > Dieter Maurer wrote:
 > ...
 > > Look at line 416 of ZWikiPage and check the call there.
 > The log of the client object shows the raw text of the wiki page. This 
 > looks fine for me. Can you guess if it's ok? (Compared to other client 
 > objects?)

Sometimes, communication is really difficult....

  You seem to be a fan of logs.

  I am a fan of looking at code and debugging.

What code do you see around line 416 of "ZwikiPage.py"?
 > ....
 > AFAICS both objects exists correctly. What am i missing? Maybe you have 
 > another hint, Dieter - Which furtherdebugging measures could i do?

I cannot when I say look at code and you reply with a log...

I know that "ZopeTime" is defined by the application object
(that is the root of your WebSite).

When a DTML object cannot find "ZopeTime", then the DTML namespace
is somehow cut such that is contains not element which
can acquire the root. Somewhere, "client" was not passed.

I cannot tell you where...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:32:07 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:32:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] conflict error
In-Reply-To: <1048010383.16419.4.camel@morpheus>
References: <1048010383.16419.4.camel@morpheus>
Message-ID: <15992.54215.931452.36125@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Chris Bowlby wrote at 2003-3-18 13:59 -0400:
 >  I've got a site running Zope 2.5.0, that is using a Mysql DB for it's
 > backend, in conjunction with some ZODB functionality in the front. I'm
 > trying to add some more files and folder and keep getting this error:
 > 
 >  INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at
 > /test/manage_addProduct/OFSP/manage_addFile
 > INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at
 > /test/manage_addProduct/OFSP/manage_addFolder
 > 
 >  I don't yet know enough about Zope's internals to know what I should be
 > looking for... can someone give me an idea?

Please search the archives for "conflict error"....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:35:53 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:35:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] weird problem with exuserfolder/zclasses
In-Reply-To: <002b01c2eda6$eb4fe130$0b01a8c0@INLINE1>
References: <002b01c2eda6$eb4fe130$0b01a8c0@INLINE1>
Message-ID: <15992.54441.938025.316110@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Henny van der Linde wrote at 2003-3-19 00:34 +0100:
 > ...
 > We get the following (see below, also when the user has the manager role)
 > error when we edit the properties  with our own interface.
 > However in the manageinterface of Zope we can change the properties with
 > authentication from exuserfolder.
 > The weird thing is that with the standard user folder it works fine from
 > within our applications.
 > ...
 >   <p>
 >   <strong>Error Type: UnpickleableError</strong><br>
 >   <strong>Error Value: Cannot pickle <extension class
 > Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper at 01035140> objects</strong><br>
 >   </p>
 > ....
 >   File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZODB\Transaction.py, line 233,
 > in commit
 >   File C:\Program Files\WebSite251\lib\python\ZODB\Connection.py, line 345,
 > in commit
 >     (Info: (('*AKWZWZ/vcgP3z+BlYojrlQ==', 'Item'),
 > '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\xd1\x1c', ''))
 > UnpickleableError: (see above)

You try to store a wrapped object as attribute of a persistent object.

This may be a user object.

  User folders vary in whether they return a wrapped or unwrapped
  user object from "getUser".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:36:37 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:36:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
In-Reply-To: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <15992.54485.769993.6183@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-19 08:43 +0100:
 > ...
 > Should I share the directory containing the files throught NFS, or sync the 
 > master server with ZEO clients throught rsync or anything else ???

We use NFS...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:28:49 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:28:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Login fails on all accounts (even init and emergency)
In-Reply-To: <1048007812.2428.14.camel@localhost>
References: <1048007812.2428.14.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <15992.54017.231235.105964@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Marek wrote at 2003-3-18 17:16 +0000:
 > I've installed zope on a Mandrake 9.0 Linux system. I installed from
 > rpms (Nexedi's, via urpmi). I've tried setting passwords for inituser
 > and for an emergency user via zpasswd (which seemed to go fine).
 > 
 > Despite everything, however, when I try to log in to the management
 > interface it gives me a login window, which just won't go away. No
 > matter what username or password I enter, it immediately just responds
 > with a new login window (and hitting cancel simply gives me a "you are
 > not authorized to access this resource" error.
 > 
 > Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?

You may create these files at a place where Zope does not
look for them....

Zope RPM distro's often use the so called "INSTANCE_HOME" setup
where the Zope software ("SOFTWARE_HOME") is maintained at a different
place than the Zope data ("INSTANCE_HOME").
The access files must be in the "INSTANCE_HOME" environment.


There is a HowTo on Zope.org about these concepts.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Wed Mar 19 20:23:15 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:23:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
In-Reply-To: <3E7898B7.2050809@nipltd.com>
References: <D9B4A9A7EB69D411A07800D0B77FCF6909646DF9@brahms.bbn.hp.com>
 <3E7898B7.2050809@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <15992.53683.308405.145136@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Hi Chris,

Chris Withers wrote at 2003-3-19 16:20 +0000:
 > Dieter Maurer wrote:
 > >  > Have you seen this: http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/ASP404 or 
 > >  > http://www.zope.org/Members/hiperlogica/ASP404
 > > 
 > > Look for a HowTo from Volker Wend on Zope.org about IIS integration.
 > > 
 > > Volker thinks that IIS provides much better ways than the ASP404
 > > approach.
 > 
 > Are you sure it's on Zope.org?
 > 
 > http://www.google.com/search?q=Volker+IIS+site%3Azope.org
 > 
 > ...returns nothing :-(

I am sure. He showed it to me (and he replied himself to this
thread).

I am not sure, what his user name is and whether user names
are indexed via Google...


Dieter


From nhavar@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 19 21:19:50 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:19:50 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
Message-ID: <F81DT9ilXFZGin0Sb7Q000228c7@hotmail.com>

I've tried changing both metadata and the content with no success. The 
content is still only searchable when logged in.

>From: Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de>
>To: "Michael Havard" <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>CC: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:31:41 +0100
>
>Michael Havard wrote at 2003-3-18 17:41 +0000:
>  > I am running ZOPE with the CMF. On the CMF on DEV I have a document 
>that is
>  > searchable as anonymous. I synced the file to the QA box and I can see 
>it
>  > when anonymous but cannot search for it when anonymous. It will only 
>show in
>  > the search results when logged in.
>  >
>  > I've seen no differences in the security settings between the two 
>instances
>  > and no obvious differences in the document. What could be causing this
>  > problem.
>  >
>  > Has anyone seen similar issues?
>
>Looks like a workflow issue or a lost reindexation.
>
>When you copy an object, it may enter its initial workflow
>state and then not be searchable.
>
>When you copy an object, it should index itself.
>Maybe, that failed.
>Try to force indexing by modifying the object.
>
>
>Dieter


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From matt@zope.com  Wed Mar 19 21:50:13 2003
From: matt@zope.com (Matthew T. Kromer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:50:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [OT] Example of Forcing Type coercion on a DCOracle2 column?
In-Reply-To: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org>
References: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <3E78E615.9020509@zope.com>

John Ziniti wrote:

> Hello --
>
> The DCOracle2 Documentation states that it is possible to force
> type coercion on a result column to particular type, but does not
> give an example of how to do this.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions?  I am trying to force an XMLTYPE column into
> a CLOB.
>
> TIA,
>
> John Ziniti


It doesn't go into detail because you really, really don't want to 
unless you know what you are doing.

What the DCOracle2 type coercion does is assert to Oracle that the 
python object is whatever type you say it is.

What this is most useful for is changing a string into something else -- 
but you have to be very careful that your input data is in fact properly 
formatted.

For example, if I say

import DCOracle2
i = DCOracle2.TypeCoercion("foo", "SQLT_INT")

I'm creating a coerced variable "i" that will claim to be an int.  In 
fact, when Oracle goes to read it, it will read 0x666f6f00 (depending on 
the byte order).  This may or may not be 1718578944 -- but it certainly 
isn't a very useful value.  The coercion is applied AFTER the normal 
python type->oracle data type binding happens, ie it really just affects 
the bind declaration.  If I coerce the number 1, I'm really referring to 
an address in memory pointing to a value containing 0x00000001 with a 
length of four bytes.  When oracle is passed this pointer, its told what 
the data type is it points at.  The TypeCoercion overrides what the 
declared type is, but doesn't *reformat* the data.

Why would you want to do this?  Well, maybe you want to handle the 
binary conversion of values yourself.  The underlying C module dco2 will 
let you get at the raw memory behind a result, so you could extend 
DCOracle2 to understand new types without writing additional C code.

-- 
Matt Kromer
Zope Corporation  http://www.zope.com/ 




From jziniti@speakeasy.org  Wed Mar 19 21:59:18 2003
From: jziniti@speakeasy.org (John Ziniti)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:59:18 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>
Message-ID: <3E78E836.2090104@speakeasy.org>

I've seen this before if Anonymous does not have the
permission "Access contents information" at the root
of your Zope installation.  It's easy to try it out at least.

-- JZ

Florian Konnertz wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm still bothered with the misbehaving ZopeTime object. If you could 
> give me further debugging tips i would be very thankful.
>
> The story: I upgraded to 2.6.1 and ZWiki-0.16 and everthing worked 
> well. After a certain time i get ZopeTime errors, the server is 
> running from the beginning. I reproduced these errors with a brandnew 
> installation of 2.6.1 and as the only product ZWiki.
>
> As an example of several errors take this one:
> http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker
> The issue tracker needs a catalog. With a clean catalog there are no 
> errors, but with a fresh built one i get this error:
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
>
>     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
>     * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 43, in call_object
>     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 221, in __call__
>     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 233, in _render
>     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 416, in 
> render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
>     * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 134, in __call__
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>     * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 120, in __call__
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_In, line 705, in renderwob
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 75, in render
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 204, in eval
>       __traceback_info__: _
>     * Module <string>, line 2, in f
>
> NameError: global name 'ZopeTime' is not defined
>
> -----
>
> So i logged some objects in ZWikiPage.py and other places. Maybe you 
> can give me a hint if there are correct values.
>
>     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
>     * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 43, in call_object
> 2003-03-18T10:51:45 TRACE(-300) Publisher--call_object: The wiki DTML 
> document
> --> OK.
> Publisher--call_object: args (<Folder instance at 93d0d70>, 
> <HTTPRequest, 
> URL=http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/IssueTracker>, 
> ZServerHTTPResponse(''))
> --> OK?
> --> REQUEST object is also ok.
>
>     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 221, in __call__
> __call__-client <Folder instance at b54ba20>
> --> OK?
> --> REQUEST, RESPONSE seem to be ok.
> __call__-kw {}
> --> ?? no kw?
>
>     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 233, in _render
> same as in __call__
>
>     * Module Products.ZWiki.ZWikiPage, line 416, in 
> render_stxprelinkdtmlhtml
> in apply: client: is the wiki page raw text
> REQ, RESP, kw same as above
> --> Is this ok?
>
>     * Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 134, in __call__
>     * Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
>     * Module OFS.DTMLMethod, line 120, in __call__
> self: &lt;dtml-if &quot;error_typ... (standard_error_msg)
> --> I guess this is due to the error now!
>
> kw: {'document_id': 'standard_error_message', 'error_type': 
> 'NameError', 'error_message': '', 'error_log_url': 
> 'http://openspirit.homelinux.net/error_log/showEntry?id=1047981994.230.471187751013', 
> 'error_tb': "<p>Traceback (innermost last):\r\n<ul>\n\n<li>  Module 
> ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish</li>\n\n<li>  Module 
> ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply</li>\n\n<li>
> (...)
>
> [...]
>       __traceback_info__: _
>     * Module <string>, line 2, in f
>
>
> As Dieter told me already to check if the DTML-Doc is called 
> correctly, i'd like to check this. How can i do this? Which debugging 
> info and tools are useful in this case?
>
> Any help is much appreciated!
>
> Florian
>
>



From jziniti@speakeasy.org  Wed Mar 19 22:09:36 2003
From: jziniti@speakeasy.org (John Ziniti)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:09:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [OT] Example of Forcing Type coercion on a DCOracle2 column?
In-Reply-To: <3E78E615.9020509@zope.com>
References: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org> <3E78E615.9020509@zope.com>
Message-ID: <3E78EAA0.6020705@speakeasy.org>

Thanks Matt.  I've been able to get around the initial problem
I was having by using the XMLTYPE's getClobValue() to have
Oracle return a CLOB instead of the XMLTYPE, which was
causing DCOracle2 to Segfault.

However, no write()s to this CLOB ever get written back to
the database.

I've also discovered the Zope-DB mailing list, so I'll be using
that to post these types of problems from now on.


Matthew T. Kromer wrote:

> John Ziniti wrote:
>
>> Hello --
>>
>> The DCOracle2 Documentation states that it is possible to force
>> type coercion on a result column to particular type, but does not
>> give an example of how to do this.  Does anyone have any
>> suggestions?  I am trying to force an XMLTYPE column into
>> a CLOB.
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> John Ziniti
>
>
>
> It doesn't go into detail because you really, really don't want to 
> unless you know what you are doing.
>
> What the DCOracle2 type coercion does is assert to Oracle that the 
> python object is whatever type you say it is.
>
> What this is most useful for is changing a string into something else 
> -- but you have to be very careful that your input data is in fact 
> properly formatted.
>
> For example, if I say
>
> import DCOracle2
> i = DCOracle2.TypeCoercion("foo", "SQLT_INT")
>
> I'm creating a coerced variable "i" that will claim to be an int.  In 
> fact, when Oracle goes to read it, it will read 0x666f6f00 (depending 
> on the byte order).  This may or may not be 1718578944 -- but it 
> certainly isn't a very useful value.  The coercion is applied AFTER 
> the normal python type->oracle data type binding happens, ie it really 
> just affects the bind declaration.  If I coerce the number 1, I'm 
> really referring to an address in memory pointing to a value 
> containing 0x00000001 with a length of four bytes.  When oracle is 
> passed this pointer, its told what the data type is it points at.  The 
> TypeCoercion overrides what the declared type is, but doesn't 
> *reformat* the data.
>
> Why would you want to do this?  Well, maybe you want to handle the 
> binary conversion of values yourself.  The underlying C module dco2 
> will let you get at the raw memory behind a result, so you could 
> extend DCOracle2 to understand new types without writing additional C 
> code.
>



From ed@greengraphics.net  Thu Mar 20 06:12:18 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:12:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <3E775D0E.8060305@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303192205250.24370-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Not really, no.

It would be possible to attack that exact page/method anonymously, but
Since the URL is hard coded in, it is not possible to direct it to another
server...   Interesting idea though.  Maybe I will incorperate this in to
my product designed to do http anonymizing.

Thanks for the note!

-ed-



On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Oliver Bleutgen wrote:

> Ed Colmar wrote:
> > Thanks again for all the tips!
> >
> > Heres what I ended up with for anyone else trying to do the same thing:
> >
> > --------------
> >
> > I made an external method:
> >
> > def formsender(self, url, params):
> >     """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an external
> > server """
> >     import urllib
> >     encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
> >     print url
> >     print encodedParams
> >     try:
> >         result = urllib.FancyURLopener().open(url, encodedParams)
> >         urllib.FancyURLopener().close()
> >         return result.read()
> >     except:
> >         return 0
> >
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Then in dtml I placed this code on the page that the form points to:
> >
> > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('params', REQUEST.form)">
> > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('url','http://www.whateversite.com/cgi?')">
> > <dtml-var "formsender(url, params)">
>
> I'm a bit late to the game here, but haven't you just constructed a nice
> anonymizing http attacking engine? As I see it, formsender could be
> called through the web, so
>
> http://yourserver/wherever/formsender?url=www.victimdomain.tld&params=bad_attackingpayload
>
> would be possible, right?
>
> cheers,
> oliver
>
>
>

-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Mar 19 22:20:50 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:20:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5D3@desi2>

My take on this...

Better yet, use the CMF and keep your "controller" and "view-assisting"
logic in skins code, and your data/model related stuff in your Python
Product classes.

In trying to explain the CMF's wide-not-deep approach to this to some people
I work with, it has become clear to me that coding a Python product for the
CMF (if nothing else than becuase of the skins tool) is much cleaner than
trying to cram things like acquirable helper utility methods into a
specialized folder class and other sorts of strange things, and living by
the "logic in content types and tools, presentation and application code in
skins" way of the CMF is really the easiest way to accomplish this.  My CMF
coding is much more compartmentalized and easier to read than the stuff from
previous Zope projects I have worked on.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy McKay [mailto:andy@agmweb.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:35 PM
To: zoper@disturbance.dhs.org
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?


> Right now, I am implementing what needs to be a prototype in DTML, but
> it's already getting to be spaghetti, with UI and logic code all
> intermingled. I am leaning toward creating big external methods for the
> encapsulation that I need, but it just *seems like I am missing
> something*.

Write a Product and put all your logic there in Python, use DTML or ZPT 
to do your presentation.

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZDG/current/Products.stx will help.
-- 
   Andy McKay


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From matt@zope.com  Wed Mar 19 22:19:47 2003
From: matt@zope.com (Matthew T. Kromer)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:19:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [OT] Example of Forcing Type coercion on a DCOracle2 column?
In-Reply-To: <3E78EAA0.6020705@speakeasy.org>
References: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org> <3E78E615.9020509@zope.com> <3E78EAA0.6020705@speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <3E78ED03.3060606@zope.com>

John Ziniti wrote:

> Thanks Matt.  I've been able to get around the initial problem
> I was having by using the XMLTYPE's getClobValue() to have
> Oracle return a CLOB instead of the XMLTYPE, which was
> causing DCOracle2 to Segfault.
>
> However, no write()s to this CLOB ever get written back to
> the database.
>
> I've also discovered the Zope-DB mailing list, so I'll be using
> that to post these types of problems from now on.
>
>

I have to admit ignorance on what XMLTYPE is for Oracle 9i. 

However, DCOracle2 shouldn't ever segfault regardless of what data it 
gets back, so if you have an example I can replicate I'll be happy to 
look at why DCOracle2 choked on it.

-- 
Matt Kromer
Zope Corporation  http://www.zope.com/ 




From luciano@hiper.com.br  Wed Mar 19 22:30:26 2003
From: luciano@hiper.com.br (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 19:30:26 -0300
Subject: [Zope] IIS-VirtualHostMonster
In-Reply-To: <15992.53683.308405.145136@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <61FAE9E6-5A5A-11D7-8091-0003939E3E58@hiper.com.br>

>>> Volker thinks that IIS provides much better ways than the ASP404
>>> approach.

Actually, Volker's method is an anternative, and not necessarily a much 
better way than ASP404, by his own words.

For one thing, the method he discovered is a redirect. Also, the client 
sees the VHM URL, which we usually want to hide since it adds no value 
to the end user.

I don't like the concept of the ASP404 approach either, but so far it 
has been the closest analog to the Apache paroxypass architecture which 
is our preferred way of deploying Zope on Unix.

Like proxypass, ASP404 gives us full control of the URLs, and allows 
the Zope server to be protected from the Internet, exposing only IIS. I 
don't know whether Zope is more or less vulnerable than IIS, but some 
of our larger customers have security teams who know IIS but don't grok 
Zope, so redirecting is not an option.

--
Luciano



  



From bobc@p-wave.com  Wed Mar 19 22:47:18 2003
From: bobc@p-wave.com (Bob Corriher)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:47:18 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
References: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com> <200303192207.25839.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <3E78F376.60707@p-wave.com>

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Hi Bo,

My bad. I didn't mean that HTMLDoc wouldn't work on Linux, just that the 
'b' parameter to popen2 probably isn't the problem, as it is the default 
in the Linux python library.

I've had good success with HTMLDoc for most projects. I do use ReportLab 
for database type reports, but not where I already have HTML code 
generated as HTMLDoc does a much better job of that. It does not support 
CSS however, so I sometimes have to generate alternate HTML using the 
<FONT> tag and other "standard" HTML constructs.

You're right about parsing with Reportlab. I originally started using 
HTMLDoc when some of our users began embedding HTML in content and it 
became more and more difficult to handle the tags in Reportlab.

I'm not sure if Unicode will cause you a problem in HTMLDoc as I've not 
had to use it.

Reportlab and HTMLDoc are the only PDF generation tools I've used and I 
don't know of any others.

Bob Corriher
P-Wave Inc.


Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:

>On Wednesday 19 March 2003 18:47, Bob Corriher wrote:
>  
>
>>If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.
>>    
>>
>Have you good solution to use Unicode with it? I would not like to start 
>coding a parser with ReportLab. But if no solution, I will... :/
>
>  
>


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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
  <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1">
  <title></title>
</head>
<body>
<br>
Hi Bo,<br>
<br>
My bad. I didn't mean that HTMLDoc wouldn't work on Linux, just that the
'b' parameter to popen2 probably isn't the problem, as it is the default
in the Linux python library.<br>
<br>
I've had good success with HTMLDoc for most projects. I do use ReportLab
for database type reports, but not where I already have HTML code generated
as HTMLDoc does a much better job of that. It does not support CSS however,
so I sometimes have to generate alternate HTML using the &lt;FONT&gt; tag
and other "standard" HTML constructs.<br>
<br>
You're right about parsing with Reportlab. I originally started using HTMLDoc
when some of our users began embedding HTML in content and it became more
and more difficult to handle the tags in Reportlab.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure if Unicode will cause you a problem in HTMLDoc as I've not had
to use it.<br>
<br>
Reportlab and HTMLDoc are the only PDF generation tools I've used and I don't
know of any others.<br>
<br>
Bob Corriher<br>
P-Wave Inc.<br>
<br>
<br>
Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid200303192207.25839.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt">
  <pre wrap="">On Wednesday 19 March 2003 18:47, Bob Corriher wrote:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->Have you good solution to use Unicode with it? I would not like to start 
coding a parser with ReportLab. But if no solution, I will... :/

  </pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>

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From mrroach@cimplify.net  Wed Mar 19 22:44:53 2003
From: mrroach@cimplify.net (Roach, Mark R.)
Date: 19 Mar 2003 17:44:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Performance problem with zpscopgda
In-Reply-To: <15991.37104.977980.289988@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1047925708.10802.808.camel@flmrroach>
 <15991.37104.977980.289988@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <1048113893.30801.433.camel@flmrroach>

On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 16:34, Dieter Maurer wrote:

> I expect that the rendering is quite costly.
> 
>   DTML and Python scripts perform a costly security check
>   (it the user allowed to access this variable/method)
>   on every access.
> 
Hi, Dieter, I think you are right, it does appear to be the rendering
and not the sql query (good news). I guess I was reading that output
incorrectly. 

I have discovered that using a python script instead of dtml, even for
what seems like very simple markup can make a tremendous performance
difference. I replaced a couple of often-run dtml methods with python
scripts and reduced execution time from 5+ seconds to ~.8 seconds in
some cases. I was pretty surprised by how drastic that was.

> Try to implement the rendering in an External Method
> and see whether it becomes faster.
> 
> I can recommend my "ZopeProfiler" product to
> see precisely where Zope spends its time. See
> 
>   <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>
> 
> 
Thanks, I will try both of those suggestions. I guess it might also be
time for me to investigate writing a product. 

Thanks again for your help.

-Mark



From jziniti@speakeasy.org  Wed Mar 19 22:58:04 2003
From: jziniti@speakeasy.org (John Ziniti)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:58:04 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [OT] Example of Forcing Type coercion on a DCOracle2 column?
In-Reply-To: <3E78ED03.3060606@zope.com>
References: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org> <3E78E615.9020509@zope.com> <3E78EAA0.6020705@speakeasy.org> <3E78ED03.3060606@zope.com>
Message-ID: <3E78F5FC.9040204@speakeasy.org>

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> I have to admit ignorance on what XMLTYPE is for Oracle 9i.
> However, DCOracle2 shouldn't ever segfault regardless of what data it 
> gets back, so if you have an example I can replicate I'll be happy to 
> look at why DCOracle2 choked on it.


DCOracle2 is crashing on some pretty vanilla stuff.  Here is the
table:

create table XML_TRANSPORT_DOCS  (
   ID                   NUMBER(10)                       not null,
   DOCUMENT_ID          VARCHAR2(30)                     not null,
   RECEIVED_DATE        DATE                             not null,
   XML_DOC              XMLType,
   DATA_PROVIDER_ID     NUMBER(8)                        not null,
   ADD_DATE             DATE                     DEFAULT (SYSDATE)             NOT NULL,
   ADD_USER             VARCHAR2(30)             DEFAULT (USER)                NOT NULL,
   CHG_DATE             DATE                     DEFAULT (SYSDATE)             NOT NULL,
   CHG_USER             VARCHAR2(30)             DEFAULT (USER)                NOT NULL,
   constraint PK_XML_TRANSPORT_DOCS primary key (ID)
   using index tablespace users_ndx,
   constraint XML_DATA_PROviders_fk foreign key (DATA_PROVIDER_ID)
         references DATA_PROVIDERS (ID)
)

The attached program will crash at the indicated spot.  Let me know
if you need any other info.  I also attached the trace.log created by
setting DCO2TRACELOG.  As noted in the program, I can get it
not to crash by using getClobVal(), but then any changes to the
CLOB are not written to the DB (my current problem :-/ ...)

JZ

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#!/usr/bin/env python2.1

import DCOracle2

import xml.dom.minidom 

CONNECTION_STRING = 'scott/tiger'

if __name__ == '__main__':

    ### Connect and execute the query, creating an empty clob
    cnx = DCOracle2.connect(CONNECTION_STRING)
    print 'Inserting ...'
    cnx.execute("""
        INSERT INTO xml_transport_docs (id, document_id, received_date, xml_doc, data_provider_id)
        VALUES(1984, 'TEST', SYSDATE, '<xml></xml>', 1)
        """
                )

    ### Retrieve the row back
    print 'Selecting ...'
    cnx.execute('SELECT x.id, x.xml_doc FROM xml_transport_docs x WHERE id=1984 FOR UPDATE')

    ### And now crash ...
    print 'Fetching ...'
    rst = cnx.fetchone()
    clob = rst[0]
    print clob

    ### This would work though (but we can't write to the returned clob ...
    ### cnx.execute('SELECT x.id, x.xml_doc.getClobVal() FROM xml_transport_docs x WHERE id=1984 FOR UPDATE')
    print 'Fetching ...'
    rst = cnx.fetchone()
    clob = rst[0]
    print clob


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* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
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* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
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* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
* 1048113998.759,  18, TypeTable_lookup, 0x080c9550, *
* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
* 1048113998.759,  18, TypeTable_lookup, 0x080c9544, *
* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
* 1048113998.759,  18, TypeTable_lookup, 0x080c9544, *
* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
* 1048113998.759,  18, TypeTable_lookup, 0x080c94b4, *
* 1048113998.759,  17, TypeTable_lookup, *
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* 1048113998.759,  18, TypeTable_lookup, 0x080d8bd8, *
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* 1048113998.797, 162, OCIEnvCreate, 0, 0x081cc8b0, *
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* 1048113998.798, 162, OCIHandleAlloc, 0, 0x081d9e58, *
* 1048113998.798,  33, OCIServerAttach, *
* 1048113998.887,  34, OCIServerAttach, 0, *
* 1048113998.888, 161, OCIHandleAlloc, 0x08133878, OCI_HTYPE_SVCCTX, *
* 1048113998.888, 162, OCIHandleAlloc, 0, 0x081eed28, *
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* 1048113998.888, 162, OCIAttrSet, 0, *
* 1048113998.888, 161, OCIHandleAlloc, 0x0813387c, OCI_HTYPE_SESSION, *
* 1048113998.888, 162, OCIHandleAlloc, 0, 0x081eeba4, *
* 1048113998.888, 161, OCIAttrSet, OCI_HTYPE_SESSION, 0x081eeba4, OCI_ATTR_USERNAME, 0x081a8a24 ?= bt, 2, *
* 1048113998.888, 162, OCIAttrSet, 0, *
* 1048113998.888, 161, OCIAttrSet, OCI_HTYPE_SESSION, 0x081eed28, OCI_ATTR_PASSWORD, 0x08134f34 ?= b4, 2, *
* 1048113998.888, 162, OCIAttrSet, 0, *
* 1048113998.888,  33, OCISessionBegin, 1, *
* 1048113998.922,  34, OCISessionBegin, 0, *
* 1048113998.922, 161, OCIAttrSet, OCI_HTYPE_SVCCTX, 0x081eed28, OCI_ATTR_SESSION, 0x081eeba4, *
* 1048113998.922, 162, OCIAttrSet, 0, *
* 1048113998.922,  18, Connect, 0x08133868, *
* 1048113998.922,  17, ServerContext_getattr, 0x08133868, 0x080ddab4 ?= cursor, *
* 1048113998.922,  18, ServerContext_getattr, 0x08175090, *
* 1048113998.922,  17, ServerContext_cursor, 0x08133868, 0x080cb85c, *
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* 1048113998.922, 162, OCIHandleAlloc, 0, 0x081ee0d0, *
* 1048113998.922, 161, OCIHandleAlloc, 0x081dea9c, OCI_HTYPE_ERROR, *
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* 1048113998.923,  33, OCIStmtPrepare, 0x081ee0d0, 0x08108914 ?= 
        INSERT INTO xml_transport_docs (id, document_id, received_date, xml_doc, data_provider_id)
        VALUES(1984, 'TEST', SYSDATE, '<xml></xml>', 1)
        , 164, *
* 1048113998.923,  34, OCIStmtPrepare, 0, *
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* 1048113998.949,  18, Cursor_setPrefetch, 0x080b8b8c, *
* 1048113998.949,  17, Cursor_getattr, 0x081dea90, 0x081088ec ?= execute, *
* 1048113998.949,  18, Cursor_getattr, 0x081dea90, *
* 1048113998.949,  17, Cursor_execute, 0x081dea90, 0x080cb85c, *
* 1048113998.949,  33, OCIStmtExecute, 0, *
* 1048113998.952,  34, OCIStmtExecute, 0, *
* 1048113998.952,  17, Cursor_getdesc, 0x081dea90, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIParamGet, 0x081ee0d0, OCI_HTYPE_STMT, 0xbffff314, 1, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIParamGet, 0, 0x081ee01c, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081ee01c, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff312, OCI_ATTR_DATA_TYPE, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 2, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081ee01c, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff312, OCI_ATTR_DATA_SIZE, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 22, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081ee01c, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff311, OCI_ATTR_PRECISION, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 10, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081ee01c, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff310, OCI_ATTR_SCALE, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 0, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081ee01c, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff311, OCI_ATTR_IS_NULL, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 0, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081ee01c, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff30c, OCI_ATTR_NAME, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 0x081e1380 ?= ID, *
* 1048113998.952,  66, Cursor_getdesc, 1, 0x081e1380 ?= ID, 2, 22, 10, 0, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIParamGet, 0x081ee0d0, OCI_HTYPE_STMT, 0xbffff314, 2, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIParamGet, 0, 0x081edffc, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081edffc, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff312, OCI_ATTR_DATA_TYPE, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 108, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081edffc, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff312, OCI_ATTR_DATA_SIZE, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 2000, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081edffc, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff311, OCI_ATTR_PRECISION, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 0, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081edffc, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff310, OCI_ATTR_SCALE, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 0, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081edffc, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff311, OCI_ATTR_IS_NULL, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 1, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIAttrGet, 0x081edffc, OCI_DTYPE_PARAM, 0xbffff30c, OCI_ATTR_NAME, *
* 1048113998.952, 162, OCIAttrGet, 0, 0x081e1394 ?= XML_DOC, *
* 1048113998.952,  66, Cursor_getdesc, 2, 0x081e1394 ?= XML_DOC, 108, 2000, 0, 0, *
* 1048113998.952, 161, OCIParamGet, 0x081ee0d0, OCI_HTYPE_STMT, 0xbffff314, 3, *
* 1048113998.953, 162, OCIParamGet, -1, 0x00000000, *
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* 1048113998.953,  17, Cursor_getattr, 0x081dea90, 0x0811b5cc ?= rowcount, *
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* 1048113998.953,  18, Cursor_rowcount, 0x080c9574, 0, *
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* 1048113998.953,  18, Cursor_getattr, 0x081dea90, *
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* 1048113998.953,  18, Cursor_describe, *
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--------------040005040100090606020404--



From mbetti@inf.unitn.it  Wed Mar 19 23:20:00 2003
From: mbetti@inf.unitn.it (Maurizio Betti)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:20:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] MS WORD AUTOMATION - newbie
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030320001953.01c20b10@mail.arsweb.it>

At 10.01 18/03/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I am trying to automatically convert MS Word docs after I have uploaded
>using WEBDAV/webdrive. I want users to be able to view the word docs with in
>the site once uploaded. Has anyone ever done something like this, your input
>will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>TP

Try to use ExternalEditor Zope product. It uses WebDAV calling the doc to 
modify via HTTP

bye, Maurizio Betti




From einar@hf.ntnu.no  Wed Mar 19 23:54:17 2003
From: einar@hf.ntnu.no (einar jensen)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:54:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to access content inside folders of zclasses?
Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20030319200213.00bed1b8@pop.hf.ntnu.no>

I have this zclass "Contentbox" in the product "contentProduct".
Inside the zclass i have a folder "manage_images" with some pictures.

How do I reference to the content of the folder when I have instanciated my 
zclass? Also in the ZMI.

It all looks something like this:

|
|-[Control Panel]
|          |
|       [ContentProduct]
|                 |
|              [Contentboxzclass]
|                       |
|                     [folder]
|                           |
|                         Pic1
|                         Pic2

|-[testfolder]
|             |
|        [ContentboxInstance]
|                      |
|                 index_html
|

So: I want to reference the images both in the index_html in my instance of 
contentbox, AND in the ZMI.

Is there an reference on how to do this somewhere?

Best regards
Einar Jensen



From ed@greengraphics.net  Thu Mar 20 08:15:11 2003
From: ed@greengraphics.net (Ed Colmar)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:15:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] sending form data offsite SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303192205250.24370-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0303200014010.25412-100000@dragon.greengraphics.net>

Oops...  My mistake.

You are right.  I thought you were referring to the dtml method not the
external method.

I'll hard code the url into the external method to secure it

Thanks!

-ed-

On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Ed Colmar wrote:

>
> Not really, no.
>
> It would be possible to attack that exact page/method anonymously, but
> Since the URL is hard coded in, it is not possible to direct it to another
> server...   Interesting idea though.  Maybe I will incorperate this in to
> my product designed to do http anonymizing.
>
> Thanks for the note!
>
> -ed-
>
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Oliver Bleutgen wrote:
>
> > Ed Colmar wrote:
> > > Thanks again for all the tips!
> > >
> > > Heres what I ended up with for anyone else trying to do the same thing:
> > >
> > > --------------
> > >
> > > I made an external method:
> > >
> > > def formsender(self, url, params):
> > >     """ This method is used to transparently send form data to an external
> > > server """
> > >     import urllib
> > >     encodedParams = urllib.urlencode(params)
> > >     print url
> > >     print encodedParams
> > >     try:
> > >         result = urllib.FancyURLopener().open(url, encodedParams)
> > >         urllib.FancyURLopener().close()
> > >         return result.read()
> > >     except:
> > >         return 0
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------
> > >
> > > Then in dtml I placed this code on the page that the form points to:
> > >
> > > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('params', REQUEST.form)">
> > > <dtml-call "REQUEST.set('url','http://www.whateversite.com/cgi?')">
> > > <dtml-var "formsender(url, params)">
> >
> > I'm a bit late to the game here, but haven't you just constructed a nice
> > anonymizing http attacking engine? As I see it, formsender could be
> > called through the web, so
> >
> > http://yourserver/wherever/formsender?url=www.victimdomain.tld&params=bad_attackingpayload
> >
> > would be possible, right?
> >
> > cheers,
> > oliver
> >
> >
> >
>
>

-- 
Green Graphics   :::   Print and Web Design   :::   510.923.0000



From Francois@iecholden.com  Thu Mar 20 02:13:32 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:13:32 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Localizer and tinytable...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F01@exchange.iecholden.com>

Hi all,

I am seting up a squishdot site, and would like to have translation in
french using Localizer.  I have a problem with Tinytables, what is the best
approach to use them with localizer???

Francois 


From buenafe@virginia.edu  Thu Mar 20 02:25:36 2003
From: buenafe@virginia.edu (Kristina Quimson Buenafe)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:25:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
In-Reply-To: <3E789F5D.4050807@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c2ee87$fdc30f90$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>

Hi Chris,

I think it processes whatever log you specify in the
awstats.myvirtualhostname.conf, and I guess ZCGI lets you do it from the =
ZMI
to get real-time statistics?  I'm not really sure.

I get the following error (and I put "../var/Z2.log" in the .conf file,
changed LogFormat to 1, and put "cidac1.sys.virginia.edu" in the =
hostname
setting)  I think I also took out the extra space in http_server.py. =20

Error: Couldn't open config file "awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf" =
nor
"awstats.conf" : No such file or directory=20

Setup (Config file, web server or permissions) may be wrong.=20
See AWStats documentation in 'docs' directory for informations on how to
setup awstats.=20

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Kristina


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Kristina Quimson Buenafe
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation


Kristina Quimson Buenafe wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>=20
> I found a how-to in one of the Zope-list archives - do I not need to=20
> use it with ZCGI?

What is ZCGI providing you?

How does AWStats process logs?

cheers,

Chris

PS: Please keep replies on the list.




From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar 20 05:25:05 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 00:25:05 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Find a user's UserFolder?
Message-ID: <20030320052505.GA7091@slinkp.com>

Does anybody know a recipe to find out, given a user object
and a context object, the acl_users folder in which that user lives?

i think i could cook something up with aq_inner and aq_parent but
i'd first like to know if there's a canonical way to do this.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's LETHAL CARPENTER MANAGER!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From lsh@wo.cz  Thu Mar 20 08:33:55 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:33:55 -0000
Subject: [Zope] how to get title property from python?
Message-ID: <E18vuju-00009o-00@mail.python.org>

: Odesílatel: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
: > I customize STX and want to get from image property Title image
description
: > in python script:
: >
: > <img src="%s" alt="get_title_from(%s)">
:
: perhaps you mean something like this?
:
: <img src="fred.jpg" alt="xxx" tal:attributes="alt here/?fred.jpg/title">

No, I dont mean DTML document/TAL, I mean in python scripts from
lib/python/Structuredtext:

output('<a href="%s/sys_show_fullimage"><img src="%s.thumb.jpg" alt="%s"
align="%s"></a>\n' % (doc.href, doc.href, doc.href, doc.align))

So ALT is not from doc.getNodeValue() like in STX, but from image property
Title.

Sorry for bad question.

J. Lukesh


From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Thu Mar 20 08:42:52 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:42:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
In-Reply-To: <3E789C9E.9020102@nipltd.com>
References: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <3E789C9E.9020102@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <200303200942.52671.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 17:36, Chris Withers wrote:
> Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> > I currently use ExternalFiles to store files of my Zope site.
> > My question is : what is the best way to use ExternalFiles in a ZEO
> > environment ???
>
> Look at AdaptableStorage :-)

I took a look at AdaptableStorage, which seems to be in an 'alpha release' 
step.
Any feedback about its use in a production environment (for FileStorage as 
well as PostgreSQL storage) ??

Thanks,

Thierry


From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Thu Mar 20 09:41:23 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:41:23 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
In-Reply-To: <15992.54485.769993.6183@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <15992.54485.769993.6183@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200303201141.23629.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 22:36, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> We use NFS...

NFS: [N]o [F]ile [S]ecurity

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

System going down at 5 this afternoon to install scheduler bug.



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 09:46:54 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:46:54 +0000
Subject: [Zope] HELP - POSKeyError 000000000001efcd - Data.fs corruption
References: <562359CC-5941-11D7-B20B-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>      <3E774686.2030000@nipltd.com> <52799.199.67.138.20.1048102192.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <3E798E0E.1010300@nipltd.com>

BZ wrote:
> 
> Any pointers on getting rid of said corruption? Tools? Fixes? Potions?

Did you try re-indexing everything your ZCatalog as I suggested?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 09:51:20 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:51:20 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
References: <F67jtTfvMDHgHJXTIq80000715e@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E798F18.8090204@nipltd.com>

Michael Havard wrote:
> ZSyncer product

I thought so given your mispelling of synch ;-)

Now, ZSyncher isn't designed for CMF and synching content with it will not work, 
as you've found out.

Look at the CMFStaging product instead...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 10:01:16 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:01:16 +0000
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
References: <200303181323.25316.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303181258210.3952-100000@shane.zope.com> <200303190837.38280.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303191252230.7682-100000@shane.zope.com>
Message-ID: <3E79916C.7070606@nipltd.com>

Shane Hathaway wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> 
>>And another one : does the fact of splitting a Zope site between several ZODBs 
>>can have any impact (improvement or not) on the whole performances ??
> 
> There is no measurable difference in performance unless you mount a large
> number of databases.  The MountPoint._setDB() and MountPoint.close() 
> methods are the issue here: they have to open/close all mounted 
> connections, even if they won't be used in the course of a transaction.  

Hmmm... well, just a data point, but since I moved one of our big setups (Two 
ClientStorages mounted into another ClientStorage) from ExtMount to DBTab, I've 
noticed that the first object loaded from a mounted storage takes 
significantly(and I do mean significant ;-) longer than it used to and longer 
than any subsequent loads of objects from that storage. I wonder what's taking 
the time? The mounted storages all have fairly large (100-400Mb) ZEO client 
caches, but they were that way with ExtMount too.

The only other difference I can think of is that one of the mounted storages is 
basically a folder with about 11,000 items in it. This used to be a BTreeFolder 
but I've moved it to a BTreeFolder2 (mainly in order to stop the ZMI left pane 
killing hte machine by trying to load all 11,000 objects into memory :-S )

Any ideas?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 10:20:45 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:20:45 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
References: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <3E789C9E.9020102@nipltd.com> <200303200942.52671.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <3E7995FD.5040409@nipltd.com>

Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> I took a look at AdaptableStorage, which seems to be in an 'alpha release' 
> step.
> Any feedback about its use in a production environment (for FileStorage as 
> well as PostgreSQL storage) ??

You'd have to ask Shane...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 10:23:52 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:23:52 +0000
Subject: [Zope] how to get title property from python?
References: <E18vuju-00009o-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <3E7996B8.1060804@nipltd.com>

Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
> No, I dont mean DTML document/TAL, I mean in python scripts from
> lib/python/Structuredtext:
> 
> output('<a href="%s/sys_show_fullimage"><img src="%s.thumb.jpg" alt="%s"
> align="%s"></a>\n' % (doc.href, doc.href, doc.href, doc.align))
> 
> So ALT is not from doc.getNodeValue() like in STX, but from image property
> Title.

What is 'doc'?

Would doc.title work?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 10:26:02 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:26:02 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E79973A.6010009@nipltd.com>

AM wrote:
> I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
> admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this morning. 
> Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) The 
> deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.

Have you recently upgraded your Zope version?

What version of ZSyncer are you using? Make sure it's the latest one...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 10:28:17 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:28:17 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Localizer and tinytable...
References: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F01@exchange.iecholden.com>
Message-ID: <3E7997C1.5040809@nipltd.com>

Meehan, Francois wrote:
> 
> I am seting up a squishdot site, and would like to have translation in
> french using Localizer.  I have a problem with Tinytables, what is the best
> approach to use them with localizer???

What aspects of the information stored in TinyTables are you looking to localise?

How does Localizer work?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 20 10:30:03 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:30:03 +0000
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
References: <001d01c2ee87$fdc30f90$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>
Message-ID: <3E79982B.7010504@nipltd.com>

Kristina Quimson Buenafe wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I think it processes whatever log you specify in the
> awstats.myvirtualhostname.conf, and I guess ZCGI lets you do it from the ZMI
> to get real-time statistics?  I'm not really sure.

Hmmm, perhaps you could re-state the high level problem you're trying to solve, 
this seems like quite a contorted solution to whatever the problem is...

> Error: Couldn't open config file "awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf" nor
> "awstats.conf" : No such file or directory 

Well, the problem is there pretty loud and clear ;-)
You need to find out why AWStats can't find its config file...

> See AWStats documentation in 'docs' directory for informations on how to
> setup awstats. 

You could always try following this advice...

cheers,

Chris



From webmaster@expert-rh.com  Thu Mar 20 11:31:50 2003
From: webmaster@expert-rh.com (Webmaster Expert RH)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:31:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] security setting question
Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAASAqQhvsX4EiKmOuwj1prRcKAAAAQAAAAhbPrMgU+Z0m8alKYgJwGCgEAAAAA@expert-rh.com>

Hello zopers,

I have a situation like this :

A repository filled with custom class instances ie: DATA folder( w/
Catalog)
A script that catch and sort a Catalog Query (get-selection)
A dtml-doc that show the results from the script <dtml-in
get-selection()>

What I want is user w/ a specific role ie : custom_user
To be able to :
- create new instances
- view and edit only those instances THEY have created

Please can you point me any path to reach this goal ?

It must have to do with the skip-unauthorized and special setting of the
security tab (but wich ? The repository ? The script ? The dtml ?....)

Thanx in advance.




From bz@bwanazulia.com  Thu Mar 20 12:21:51 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:21:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] HELP - POSKeyError 000000000001efcd - Data.fs corruption
In-Reply-To: <3E798E0E.1010300@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <87A772F8-5ACE-11D7-B732-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

Hey Chris,

Thanks for helping me on on this one.

I looked all over and I know how to reindex a catalog, but how do you 
reindex an entire site or zope installation?

BZ


On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 04:46  AM, Chris Withers wrote:

> BZ wrote:
>> Any pointers on getting rid of said corruption? Tools? Fixes? Potions?
>
> Did you try re-indexing everything your ZCatalog as I suggested?
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
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From jens@zope.com  Thu Mar 20 12:40:14 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:40:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Find a user's UserFolder?
In-Reply-To: <20030320052505.GA7091@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <19077B42-5AD1-11D7-AB7C-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

depending on how the user object was "produced" you can find out about 
it by looking at the user object's aq_parent. this only works if the 
user is wrapped in the user folder, which it should be if the user 
object has been created "automatically" by the security machinery.

however, if the user object came from a simple call to getUser it might 
not be wrapped. different user folders behave in different ways in that 
case.

jens



On Thursday, Mar 20, 2003, at 00:25 US/Eastern, Paul Winkler wrote:

> Does anybody know a recipe to find out, given a user object
> and a context object, the acl_users folder in which that user lives?
>
> i think i could cook something up with aq_inner and aq_parent but
> i'd first like to know if there's a canonical way to do this.
>
> -- 
>
> Paul Winkler



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Thu Mar 20 12:46:35 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 12:46:35 +0000
Subject: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope] HELP - POSKeyError 000000000001efcd - Data.fs corruption
In-Reply-To: <87A772F8-5ACE-11D7-B732-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
References: <87A772F8-5ACE-11D7-B732-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <200303201246.35510.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

[Do we want this crossposted to zope@ and zodb-dev@ ?]

On Thursday 20 March 2003 12:21 pm, BZ wrote:
> Hey Chris,
>
> Thanks for helping me on on this one.
>
> I looked all over and I know how to reindex a catalog, but how do you
> reindex an entire site or zope installation?

I think chris is guessing that your zodb corruption is limited to a dangling 
reference inside the zcatalog btree, so that reindexing the *catalog* 
followed by a pack will purge all traces of the corruption. Chris, can you 
share how you reached this?

He might be correct. good luck. ;-)

You also reported:
>> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not matchtransaction
>> id 0x034ac5e367948900

That sounds like more than a single dangling reference :-(

It raises one question for me - did this data start out in this FileStorage? 
Or, has it been passed through a copyTransactionsFrom function, or something 
else that call the restore() storage method?


Tracking down corruption in FileStorage is hard - both tracking down the type 
of corruption so you can repair it, and tracking down the bug that caused it 
initially. Doing anything more scientific than following Chris' guess will 
require you to go through a debugging process.


-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Thu Mar 20 13:30:57 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 08:30:57 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Change folders within Zope
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EEFC2@PROSERV>

Hi,

I want to thank everyone for pointing me to the localfs product. This is
what I want to store all the images I expect. Now I need to point my dtml
document to add these files to the localfs. I have looked at the source for
addFile and this would work if I could redirect the folder location from
"current" to the localfs. The form action is looking for "manage_addFile".
Here's my question, can I redirect my currect folder location to my localfs
or is there a place I can get a copy  of manage_addFile so I can make
(calling it something else) modify it to point to my localfs. Thanks.


Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Thu Mar 20 13:38:45 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 07:38:45 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope] HELP - POSKeyError 000000000001efcd -
 Data.fs corruption
In-Reply-To: <200303201246.35510.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <87A772F8-5ACE-11D7-B732-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
 <200303201246.35510.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <33394.199.67.138.20.1048167525.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

[I posted to zodb-dev as I was told they were the GURUs and could help
since this is in the ZODB).

What I have tried:
1) Using fsrecover.py (with and without -p and before and after packing)

This has removed data but along with it a lot of data that I need. If you
don't use the -p it removes nothing and I am stuck with the POSKeyError

2) Exporting the folder I think is corrupt (/Members/) and importing it
into a new CMF.

It imports, but the POSKeyError comes with (in a new location)

3) Deleting things out of the folder that could be causing the problem

Gives me lots of errors about not being able to "unindex" the items
followed by a POSKeyError

in debug mode: "ERROR(200) PathIndex Attempt to unindex document with id
xxxxxxxxx failed"

Any new direction would be appreciated. The problem with hosing the darn
/Members/ folder is that it has Members stuff in it.

BZ




> [Do we want this crossposted to zope@ and zodb-dev@ ?]
>
> On Thursday 20 March 2003 12:21 pm, BZ wrote:
>> Hey Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for helping me on on this one.
>>
>> I looked all over and I know how to reindex a catalog, but how do you
>> reindex an entire site or zope installation?
>
> I think chris is guessing that your zodb corruption is limited to a
> dangling
> reference inside the zcatalog btree, so that reindexing the *catalog*
> followed by a pack will purge all traces of the corruption. Chris, can you
> share how you reached this?
>
> He might be correct. good luck. ;-)
>
> You also reported:
>>> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not matchtransaction
>>> id 0x034ac5e367948900
>
> That sounds like more than a single dangling reference :-(
>
> It raises one question for me - did this data start out in this
> FileStorage?
> Or, has it been passed through a copyTransactionsFrom function, or
> something
> else that call the restore() storage method?
>
>
> Tracking down corruption in FileStorage is hard - both tracking down the
> type
> of corruption so you can repair it, and tracking down the bug that caused
> it
> initially. Doing anything more scientific than following Chris' guess will
> require you to go through a debugging process.
>
>
> --
> Toby Dickenson
> http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson
>
> _______________________________________________
> For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki:
> http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/
>
> ZODB-Dev mailing list  -  ZODB-Dev@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
>



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Thu Mar 20 14:03:02 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:03:02 +0000
Subject: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope] HELP - POSKeyError 000000000001efcd -      Data.fs corruption
In-Reply-To: <33394.199.67.138.20.1048167525.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
References: <87A772F8-5ACE-11D7-B732-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com> <200303201246.35510.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <33394.199.67.138.20.1048167525.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <200303201403.02637.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Thursday 20 March 2003 1:38 pm, BZ wrote:
> [I posted to zodb-dev as I was told they were the GURUs and could help
> since this is in the ZODB).
>
> What I have tried:
> 1) Using fsrecover.py (with and without -p and before and after packing)
>
> This has removed data but along with it a lot of data that I need. If you
> don't use the -p it removes nothing and I am stuck with the POSKeyError

fsrecover works on the FileStorage record structure. It wont do anything to 
mitigate POSKeyErrors, but you shouldnt see errors like this one after 
running it. Please shout if this is not the case for you.
> > You also reported:
> >>> 119583146L object serialno 0x034aab9e4b7e624c does not matchtransaction
> >>> id 0x034ac5e367948900

> 2) Exporting the folder I think is corrupt (/Members/) and importing it
> into a new CMF.
>
> It imports, but the POSKeyError comes with (in a new location)

Dont think that this means it is creating more corruption. Things stop when it 
hits the first POSKeyError, so you *might* just have two missing objects and 
they are being hit in a different order.

Do you get most of the /Members content working with this process?  If so, 
your problem is not as hard as it could be. You just need to find the objects 
that have dangling references, then either reconstruct the referenced object, 
or delete the object that contains the dangling reference.

There is an fsrefs.py script that might help. (Ive never used it, but it looks 
good.)

> Any new direction would be appreciated. The problem with hosing the darn
> /Members/ folder is that it has Members stuff in it.

When this immediate problem is resolved you may want to look at 
DirectoryStorage. I developed it after suffering this kind of debuggability 
problems in other storages.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From matt@zope.com  Thu Mar 20 14:55:22 2003
From: matt@zope.com (Matthew T. Kromer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:55:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [OT] Example of Forcing Type coercion on a DCOracle2 column?
In-Reply-To: <3E78F5FC.9040204@speakeasy.org>
References: <3E78917D.3010405@speakeasy.org> <3E78E615.9020509@zope.com> <3E78EAA0.6020705@speakeasy.org> <3E78ED03.3060606@zope.com> <3E78F5FC.9040204@speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <3E79D65A.2080709@zope.com>

John Ziniti wrote:

>> I have to admit ignorance on what XMLTYPE is for Oracle 9i.
>> However, DCOracle2 shouldn't ever segfault regardless of what data it 
>> gets back, so if you have an example I can replicate I'll be happy to 
>> look at why DCOracle2 choked on it.
>
>
>* 1048113998.953,  33, OCIDefineByPos, 2, 0x08211c48, 2000, 108, 0, *
>  
>

As I thought it might be, XMLTYPE is an Oracle Named Type.  DCOracle2 
doesn't support named types.  It may in the future (I'd like to do it) 
but it doesn't right now.

The code "108" is SQLT_NTY.

-- 
Matt Kromer
Zope Corporation  http://www.zope.com/ 




From buenafe@virginia.edu  Thu Mar 20 14:59:50 2003
From: buenafe@virginia.edu (Kristina Quimson Buenafe)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:59:50 -0500
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
In-Reply-To: <3E79982B.7010504@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <000501c2eef1$5b6b6890$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>

Hi Chris,

> Hi Chris,
>=20
> I think it processes whatever log you specify in the=20
> awstats.myvirtualhostname.conf, and I guess ZCGI lets you do it from=20
> the ZMI to get real-time statistics?  I'm not really sure.

Hmmm, perhaps you could re-state the high level problem you're trying to
solve,=20
this seems like quite a contorted solution to whatever the problem is...

The high-level problem I'm trying to solve is to get web server log
statistics out of Z2.log so I can analyze them for my thesis. =20

> Error: Couldn't open config file=20
> "awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf" nor "awstats.conf" : No such=20
> file or directory

Well, the problem is there pretty loud and clear ;-)
You need to find out why AWStats can't find its config file...

Ok - awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf is in the cgi-bin directory =
with
awstats.pl

> See AWStats documentation in 'docs' directory for informations on how=20
> to setup awstats.

You could always try following this advice...

I think I followed the setup instructions correctly (putting the cgi-bin =
and
icon directories in my Zope root directory and changing the settings in
awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf, will check them again.

Thanks,

Kristina



From nhavar@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 15:01:08 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:01:08 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
Message-ID: <F121ccpKavNQ2oGFJfq00009839@hotmail.com>

I'm finding nothing on the CMFStaging product. Only three limited references 
to it on the ZOPE.org site and nothing in the products directory. Can you 
point me to a site or directory to look in.

I know that Zsyncer was not designed for CMF but to date it's worked fine 
for all of our synchronization on the CMF. The only exception is when 
searching the catalog in anonymous mode.

It seems to me that there should be a way to reindex the content so that all 
items appear as normal. At first I thought it a permissions problem since 
the items were in the catalog for logged in users but not anonymous. I'm 
still not quite convinced that it's not a permissions bug.

Anyway... thanks for the help and if you can give any further pointer to the 
CMFStaging I would appreciate it.


>From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
>To: Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>CC: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:51:20 +0000
>
>Michael Havard wrote:
>>ZSyncer product
>
>I thought so given your mispelling of synch ;-)
>
>Now, ZSyncher isn't designed for CMF and synching content with it will not 
>work, as you've found out.
>
>Look at the CMFStaging product instead...
>
>cheers,
>
>Chris
>


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From buenafe@virginia.edu  Thu Mar 20 15:25:14 2003
From: buenafe@virginia.edu (Kristina Quimson Buenafe)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:25:14 -0500
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
In-Reply-To: <3E79982B.7010504@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <001401c2eef4$e7b7d290$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>

Just fixed the problem - I didn't realize that when I renamed it and set =
the
.conf files to open with WordPad to edit them, I should have just =
renamed it
awstats.myvirtualhostname because it had been
"awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf.conf" and that's why the file =
couldn't
be found.  Whoops!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:30 AM
To: buenafe@virginia.edu
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation


Kristina Quimson Buenafe wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>=20
> I think it processes whatever log you specify in the=20
> awstats.myvirtualhostname.conf, and I guess ZCGI lets you do it from=20
> the ZMI to get real-time statistics?  I'm not really sure.

Hmmm, perhaps you could re-state the high level problem you're trying to
solve,=20
this seems like quite a contorted solution to whatever the problem is...

> Error: Couldn't open config file=20
> "awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf" nor "awstats.conf" : No such=20
> file or directory

Well, the problem is there pretty loud and clear ;-)
You need to find out why AWStats can't find its config file...

> See AWStats documentation in 'docs' directory for informations on how=20
> to setup awstats.

You could always try following this advice...

cheers,

Chris




From florian.konnertz@web.de  Thu Mar 20 16:51:14 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:51:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <3E78E836.2090104@speakeasy.org>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de> <3E78E836.2090104@speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <3E79F182.70804@web.de>

John Ziniti wrote:
> 
> Florian Konnertz wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm still bothered with the misbehaving ZopeTime object. If you could 
>> give me further debugging tips i would be very thankful.
>>
>> NameError: global name 'ZopeTime' is not defined

 > I've seen this before if Anonymous does not have the
 > permission "Access contents information" at the root
 > of your Zope installation.  It's easy to try it out at least.
 >

You are my hero, John!!

That's great! Unbelievable!

Absolut fantastic!

Insane!


BTW, to give Authenticated the aci permission was sufficient in my case.

Cheers,
Florian


P.S. Remember: If you're in my town one day, come over to my house, i'll 
pay you a beer!


-- 
Florian Konnertz   ---   http://www.florian-konnertz.de	
http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From myzope@gmx.net  Thu Mar 20 15:46:01 2003
From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:46:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5D3@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5D3@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E79E239.4070200@gmx.net>

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> My take on this...
> 
> Better yet, use the CMF and keep your "controller" and "view-assisting"
> logic in skins code, and your data/model related stuff in your Python
> Product classes.
> 
> In trying to explain the CMF's wide-not-deep approach to this to some people
> I work with, it has become clear to me that coding a Python product for the
> CMF (if nothing else than becuase of the skins tool) is much cleaner than
> trying to cram things like acquirable helper utility methods into a
> specialized folder class and other sorts of strange things, and living by
> the "logic in content types and tools, presentation and application code in
> skins" way of the CMF is really the easiest way to accomplish this.  My CMF
> coding is much more compartmentalized and easier to read than the stuff from
> previous Zope projects I have worked on.
> 
> Sean

Sean, I also like the CMF ways esp. for the skins tool, but how do you 
handle the stuff coming with CMF you _don't_ want to use. Like the 
membertool, workflows, syndication etc. Do you have a custom CMF-site 
object, do you delete the autocreated objects you don't like after 
adding a stock CMF site? Also, how are you handling the fact that now 
your products now are "not in one piece", since methods are spread 
through the skins tool?
I really wish the CMF wouldn't be effectively one big software BLOB.

Any clever tricks to share?


cheers,
oliver




From zoper@disturbance.dhs.org  Thu Mar 20 17:09:34 2003
From: zoper@disturbance.dhs.org (zoper@disturbance.dhs.org)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:09:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
In-Reply-To: <3E79E239.4070200@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0303200902050.5785-100000@disturbance.dhs.org>

First off, thanks to everyone that has replied - really helps. I've
received some very good advice re: mapping my data tables to classes, and
for better or worse am on the path of encapsulating much of my logic in
external methods and pluggable brains.

Regarding the suggestions to use CMF: My thoughts are right in line with
Oliver's sentiments below: I ruled out CMF and (though it was a lesser
consideration anyway) Plone because they contain far more stuff that I
DON'T need or want then things that would be of help. I have no interest
in wading through the process of learning the CMF during a project
schedule just for the utility of the few things I would use. Learning ZPT
is much higher on my list, and even that is deferred until I finish the
project at hand (again, for better or for worse).

Also, this is a functionality-heavy site I am working on, not a
content-heavy one. I am using Zope as an application framework in this
case rather than as a content management tool.

I do wish that various CMF functions were available as individual products
- that would be great.

Thanks again for the advice, everybody, and keep it coming if there's
more!

>
> Sean, I also like the CMF ways esp. for the skins tool, but how do you
> handle the stuff coming with CMF you _don't_ want to use. Like the
> membertool, workflows, syndication etc. Do you have a custom CMF-site
> object, do you delete the autocreated objects you don't like after
> adding a stock CMF site? Also, how are you handling the fact that now
> your products now are "not in one piece", since methods are spread
> through the skins tool?
> I really wish the CMF wouldn't be effectively one big software BLOB.
>



From m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk  Thu Mar 20 16:58:18 2003
From: m.stangroom@uea.ac.uk (Mark Stangroom)
Date: 20 Mar 2003 16:58:18 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Unable to Pack zope Database
Message-ID: <1048179498.2542.6.camel@konqueror.stu.uea.ac.uk>

Over that last few days I have been unable to pack the zope database. I
get an error message saying "CorruptedTansactionError".

Also when I view undo transactions I have hundreds of transactions by
"Anonymous User" on my main index_html every few minutes.

Can anyone tell me what is happening and what I need to do.

Thanks


Mark Stangroom




From hancock@anansispaceworks.com  Thu Mar 20 17:15:37 2003
From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:15:37 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Reversible encryption on passwords?
Message-ID: <E18w3cT-0000f0-00@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

Hi all,

I've been thinking about the pros and cons of using encrypted
passwords, and I've realized that there are actually some
additional choices.

Normally "encrypted password" means you run a secure hash
(non-reversible) on a password and then you  actually 
compare the hashes.  But there are drawbacks:

1) You can't remind the user of their password, because you
don't have it.

2) Certain password-checking schemes (design for plain-text
may not be easily implemented this way.

But then I started thinking about *actual* encryption and things
like GnuPG encryption and signing.

Suppose I use a private key to encrypt/decrypt the password
data for storage in the database.  The key might be stored on
the server's filesystem or be retrieved from a more secure computer,
but it would be used to encrypt the data for storage and then
to decrypt it for authentication.  You could do this with public-key
cryptography, too, but it's not clear to me that there is an
advantage to that.

Anyway, in the authentication process, the password would
posted in "plain text" -- but if the connection is via SSL (HTTPS), then it
is actually encrypted on the way to the server.

So, in this scenario, my database contains password fields which
can only be read with the right key, but can be decrypted, and
the connection to the user is protected by SSL's public-key
cryptography.  (The idea being that should the database be
compromised, the passwords would not be exposed -- at least
not in plain text, you'd need to get both the database and the
key(s)).

It seems to me that this offers most of the security of normal
encrypted passwords, but with fewer drawbacks.  It does mean
that the site owner can read the passwords, but that's supposed
to be the advantage.

Presumeably I'm not the first person to think of this -- is it used by
some sites or not?  If not, why not?  I'm wondering what the faults
are and whether it'd be a good strategy for us.

Thanks for any comments,
Terry

--
Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com )
Anansi Spaceworks  http://www.anansispaceworks.com


From andy@agmweb.ca  Thu Mar 20 17:24:22 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:24:22 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
In-Reply-To: <3E79E239.4070200@gmx.net>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5D3@desi2> <3E79E239.4070200@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <3E79F946.50301@agmweb.ca>

Oliver Bleutgen wrote:
> Sean, I also like the CMF ways esp. for the skins tool, but how do you 
> handle the stuff coming with CMF you _don't_ want to use. Like the 
> membertool, workflows, syndication etc. Do you have a custom CMF-site 
> object, do you delete the autocreated objects you don't like after 
> adding a stock CMF site? Also, how are you handling the fact that now 
> your products now are "not in one piece", since methods are spread 
> through the skins tool?
> I really wish the CMF wouldn't be effectively one big software BLOB.
> 
> Any clever tricks to share?

You can easily reuse some of bits out of the CMF into component bits if 
you want. For example I wrote a product that just uses the skins 
component of CMFCore, so that when you add this folderish product, it 
adds a few skins in.

The user can then skin the product as they see fit. It worked out pretty 
well and didnt take long to write.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From myzope@gmx.net  Thu Mar 20 18:03:58 2003
From: myzope@gmx.net (Oliver Bleutgen)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:03:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Reversible encryption on passwords?
In-Reply-To: <E18w3cT-0000f0-00@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
References: <E18w3cT-0000f0-00@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <3E7A028E.1030707@gmx.net>

Terry Hancock wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been thinking about the pros and cons of using encrypted
> passwords, and I've realized that there are actually some
> additional choices.
> 
> Normally "encrypted password" means you run a secure hash
> (non-reversible) on a password and then you  actually 
> compare the hashes.  But there are drawbacks:
> 
> 1) You can't remind the user of their password, because you
> don't have it.
> 
> 2) Certain password-checking schemes (design for plain-text
> may not be easily implemented this way.
> 
> But then I started thinking about *actual* encryption and things
> like GnuPG encryption and signing.
> 
> Suppose I use a private key to encrypt/decrypt the password
> data for storage in the database.  The key might be stored on
> the server's filesystem or be retrieved from a more secure computer,
> but it would be used to encrypt the data for storage and then
> to decrypt it for authentication.  You could do this with public-key
> cryptography, too, but it's not clear to me that there is an
> advantage to that.
> [scenario snipped]

It's the other way around, PGP-type encryption of the credentials with 
the public key would be _the_ solution to what you want.
Think about it, you create a privat/public key pair, store the private 
key on a disk which you lock up in a safe. Store the public key and the 
passwords (encrypted with that key) on the server. Now you have just a 
"special" kind of hash, reversible only by breaking in your safe in 
stealing the private key.
The drawback is that asymetric encryption is computationally quite 
expensive.
The idea of storing the decryption key for retrieval on a "secure" 
server is not a security enhancement, unless you consider added 
obscurity as  more security. Because if someone cracks open your server 
he will be able to retrieve the decryption key anyway.

cheers,
oliver





From stefan@epy.co.at  Thu Mar 20 18:26:18 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:26:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Reversible encryption on passwords?
In-Reply-To: <E18w3cT-0000f0-00@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
References: <E18w3cT-0000f0-00@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1269138985.1048188378@[172.16.8.4]>

Keeping private keys on connected servers is an all-around bad idea. All I=20
need to do is break into your box. Can do. ;-)

Also, password garbling schemes are intentionally one-way. Otherwise you=20
won't gain much in terms of security.

Some explanations of the issues involved can be found here:
<http://www.gnu.org/manual/glibc-2.2.5/html_node/crypt.html>

HTH,
Stefan


--On Donnerstag, 20. M=E4rz 2003 09:15 -0800 Terry Hancock=20
<hancock@anansispaceworks.com> wrote:

> Suppose I use a private key to encrypt/decrypt the password
> data for storage in the database.  The key might be stored on
> the server's filesystem or be retrieved from a more secure computer,
> but it would be used to encrypt the data for storage and then
> to decrypt it for authentication.  You could do this with public-key
> cryptography, too, but it's not clear to me that there is an
> advantage to that.

--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From nhavar@hotmail.com  Thu Mar 20 19:27:24 2003
From: nhavar@hotmail.com (Michael Havard)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:27:24 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
Message-ID: <F66y9CMdZpDsiIWeTlh0000a91f@hotmail.com>

Well I found my problem and it appears it's nothing to do with catalog or 
zsyncer but with my own stupidity. I didn't check the expiration date on the 
content. The content had expired so only those with author permissions could 
see it once logged in...
BIG DUH

I found the CVS listing for CMFStaging but no documentation. Can anyone 
point me to documentation about how CMFStaging works, how to install it etc.


>From: "Michael Havard" <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>To: chrisw@nipltd.com
>CC: zope@zope.org
>Subject: Re: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:01:08 +0000
>
>I'm finding nothing on the CMFStaging product. Only three limited 
>references to it on the ZOPE.org site and nothing in the products 
>directory. Can you point me to a site or directory to look in.
>
>I know that Zsyncer was not designed for CMF but to date it's worked fine 
>for all of our synchronization on the CMF. The only exception is when 
>searching the catalog in anonymous mode.
>
>It seems to me that there should be a way to reindex the content so that 
>all items appear as normal. At first I thought it a permissions problem 
>since the items were in the catalog for logged in users but not anonymous. 
>I'm still not quite convinced that it's not a permissions bug.
>
>Anyway... thanks for the help and if you can give any further pointer to 
>the CMFStaging I would appreciate it.
>
>
>>From: Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com>
>>To: Michael Havard <nhavar@hotmail.com>
>>CC: zope@zope.org
>>Subject: Re: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
>>Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:51:20 +0000
>>
>>Michael Havard wrote:
>>>ZSyncer product
>>
>>I thought so given your mispelling of synch ;-)
>>
>>Now, ZSyncher isn't designed for CMF and synching content with it will not 
>>work, as you've found out.
>>
>>Look at the CMFStaging product instead...
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>Chris
>>
>
>
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From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Thu Mar 20 19:38:30 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:38:30 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZODB Transactions
Message-ID: <200303202138.30159.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

Hi, all.

I have a trouble with Zope when I want to store 
a lot of the files into the ZODB in the loop. 

My ExternalMethod does something like:

---------8<--------------
for foo in session[files].keys():
    fileData, fileName = session[files][foo]
    self.somewhere.manage_addFoo('foo', fileData)
    self.SQLMethod_to_mark_the_uploaded_file(fileName)
---------8<--------------

And browser waits, waits, waits, waits (not user-friendly, BTW!)
and then tells me "ZODB.POSException.ConflictError" and my files
was NOT uploaded AT ALL.

Then I *had* only one idea to make semaphore via session. I.e.:
Create a DTML Method, where is a text "Please wait" and
<meta EQUIV-.../> with refresh to check the flag in the session.
And my External Method does (algorhythm):
1. set a flag into the session, like:
    session['foo'] = '1'
2. Put the files in loop by "manage_addFoo(...)"
3. Remove the flag after the loop, like:
    del session['foo']
...and then my DTML Method will see no flag and redirect to the normal page.

But it does not work at all :-) Seems that ZOPE requires to roll over ZODB transaction, 
because even I set the flags, they does not change untill loop ends (I've checked it 
by the parallel process). Maybe I should somehow do the explicit commit() or so? :/

The howto here http://www.zope.org/Members/don/long_procces does not work.

Have anybody at least _any_ idea (good, bad,  i.e. *any*) how to do upload 
that <...> files?

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

Linux -- the OS for the Renaissance Man



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar 20 19:52:42 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:52:42 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E79973A.6010009@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E7A1C0A.70100@neurobs.com>

Yup recently went from 2.6.0 to 2.6.1 and my zsyncer version is 0.4.6

AM

Chris Withers wrote:

> AM wrote:
>
>> I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
>> admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this 
>> morning. Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) 
>> The deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.
>
>
> Have you recently upgraded your Zope version?
>
> What version of ZSyncer are you using? Make sure it's the latest one...
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Thu Mar 20 20:25:20 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:25:20 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Localfs not a folder
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF216@PROSERV>

Hi,

After some testing, I finally realized that the localfs is not a folder. I
am trying to avoid having user take up space in the data.fs file with them
uploading images. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can handle this
problem, thanks.


Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar 20 20:34:11 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:34:11 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Localfs not a folder
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF216@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF216@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <20030320203411.GF8621@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:25:20PM -0500, McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After some testing, I finally realized that the localfs is not a folder.

True, but why doesn't it work for you?  It acts much the same as a
folder ... one major difference being that you can't give properties to
the contained items.

>    I
> am trying to avoid having user take up space in the data.fs file with them
> uploading images. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can handle this
> problem, thanks.

You could let them add ExtImage and set permissions so they can't
create normal Images.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's GNARLEY TEACHER!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From Francois@iecholden.com  Thu Mar 20 20:47:06 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Localizer and tinytable...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F08@exchange.iecholden.com>

Hi,
 
>> I am seting up a squishdot site, and would like to have translation in
>> french using Localizer.  I have a problem with Tinytables, what is the
best
>> approach to use them with localizer???

> 
> What aspects of the information stored in TinyTables are you 
> looking to localise?

The first column header.

> 
> How does Localizer work?

Well that is a tricky question, best info can be found at:
http://www.j-david.net/software/localizer/


I am trying the catalog approach. Had no luck with Localfolder.


Regards,

Francois


From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Thu Mar 20 20:51:30 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:51:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Localfs not a folder
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF238@PROSERV>

Thanks Paul, this looks like what I am looking for.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Paul
Winkler
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:34 PM
To: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Zope] Localfs not a folder


On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:25:20PM -0500, McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After some testing, I finally realized that the localfs is not a folder.

True, but why doesn't it work for you?  It acts much the same as a
folder ... one major difference being that you can't give properties to
the contained items.

>    I
> am trying to avoid having user take up space in the data.fs file with them
> uploading images. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can handle
this
> problem, thanks.

You could let them add ExtImage and set permissions so they can't
create normal Images.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's GNARLEY TEACHER!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)

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From Francois@iecholden.com  Thu Mar 20 20:52:45 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:52:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F09@exchange.iecholden.com>

Hi all,

I want to implement localfs to give users remote access to their home
directories. I want to create a localfs object per user. How can I secure
this, so a given user can only see his own stuff and prevent the others for
accessing it?

Are roles the answers?

Francois


 


From florian.konnertz@web.de  Thu Mar 20 22:06:27 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 23:06:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <15992.52249.921722.825974@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de>	<15991.37650.334545.89409@gargle.gargle.HOWL>	<3E783A42.9030801@web.de> <15992.52249.921722.825974@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E7A3B63.6060303@web.de>

Hi Dieter,

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Florian Konnertz wrote at 2003-3-19 10:37 +0100:
>  > Dieter Maurer wrote:
>  > ...
>  > > Look at line 416 of ZWikiPage and check the call there.
>  > The log of the client object shows the raw text of the wiki page. This 
>  > looks fine for me. Can you guess if it's ok? (Compared to other client 
>  > objects?)
> 
> Sometimes, communication is really difficult....
...hmmm
> 
>   You seem to be a fan of logs.
:-) Far sure! I've got already 300terabytes only zope logs ;-)

> 
>   I am a fan of looking at code and debugging.
Ok, cool, i'm becoming the same :)
> 
> What code do you see around line 416 of "ZwikiPage.py"?
>  > ....
>  > AFAICS both objects exists correctly. What am i missing? Maybe you have 
>  > another hint, Dieter - Which furtherdebugging measures could i do?
> 
> I cannot when I say look at code and you reply with a log...
> 
> I know that "ZopeTime" is defined by the application object
> (that is the root of your WebSite).
> 
> When a DTML object cannot find "ZopeTime", then the DTML namespace
> is somehow cut such that is contains not element which
> can acquire the root. Somewhere, "client" was not passed.
Ok, these words helped me understand... - "the namespace is cut" - I see.
> 
> I cannot tell you where...

Yep, ok - I know what you mean.

Thanks for your patience!


...

The solution was quite easy... (see the other postings) -
But i still wonder why it worked the first days on that zope instance - 
I don't remember having changed the default settings, (maybe my 
colleague was it?)


Best wishes ,
Florian



-- 
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http://openspirit.homelinux.net/noowiki/FrontPage
Improved ZWiki about all topics, especially consciousness research
and wisdom traditions



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Thu Mar 20 21:12:46 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:12:46 -0500
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
In-Reply-To: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F09@exchange.iecholden.com>
References: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F09@exchange.iecholden.com>
Message-ID: <20030320211246.GG8621@slinkp.com>

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:52:45PM -0500, Meehan, Francois wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I want to implement localfs to give users remote access to their home
> directories. I want to create a localfs object per user. How can I secure
> this, so a given user can only see his own stuff and prevent the others for
> accessing it?
> 
> Are roles the answers?

I'd use the "Owner" role. Set the permissions on each user's stuff
so that Owner can do the necessary stuff, and make that user the owner.

But there's another problem. Do you mean "home directory" as in
/home/some_user on unix?  That's risky.  The zope process runs as
a user - the userr that starts the process - and in order to
read things in different directories under /home you'd have to make
them all readable (and, if you want to be able to add stuff to each
LocalFS, writeable!) by that one user. Making it writable is bad. 
If a malicious user were to gain managment privileges of your zope, 
they would then have read/write access to ANY user's home directory!

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's ANTI GOD!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From jpenny@universal-fasteners.com  Thu Mar 20 21:26:45 2003
From: jpenny@universal-fasteners.com (Jim Penny)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 16:26:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
In-Reply-To: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F09@exchange.iecholden.com>
References: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F09@exchange.iecholden.com>
Message-ID: <20030320212645.GW28504@universal-fasteners.com>

On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:52:45PM -0500, Meehan, Francois wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I want to implement localfs to give users remote access to their home
> directories. I want to create a localfs object per user. How can I secure
> this, so a given user can only see his own stuff and prevent the others for
> accessing it?
> 
> Are roles the answers?

No.

Localfs objects have to be readable (at least) by the userid that zope
is running as.  Zope should not be run as root, for a variety of good
reasons.  Presumably your users own their own files, and in a modern
system, are proably in individual groups.

This gives you two options; neither inherently secure.  Either you can
write some kind of suid root program to read/write the files, or you can
put zope's groupid in the group of each individual user.

In either case, you are intentionally creating an agent that can bypass
normal filesystem security.  This means that this agent has to be
simple, rock solid, and totally paranoid.  It has to check that each
user has the right to access the directory/file he is trying to access
for the purpose that he is accessing it.

And this gets into tough policy decisions.  Do you read /etc/passwd to
determine the home directory of each user?  Do you know how zope userids
correspond to system userids?  Where is this kept?  Do you honor umask
settings?  Can you find them?  Do you honor read bits, if you are using
a suid root program, that is, can joe read a chmod 000 file in his own
home directory?

Then you implement the policy in your own code.  Fun, eh?

Jim Penny

> 
> Francois
> 
> 
>  
> 
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From madduck@madduck.net  Thu Mar 20 21:31:50 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 22:31:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <BE6C19A8-59A9-11D7-912D-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
References: <20030318220418.GA30290@diamond.madduck.net> <BE6C19A8-59A9-11D7-912D-003065B11E84@leafe.com>
Message-ID: <20030320213150.GA11091@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Ed Leafe <ed@leafe.com> [2003.03.19.0226 +0100]:
> 	Sorry, but Dieter and the rest insist that making the default
> 	for the list be 'Reply To List' is a horrible abomination of
> 	common sense, and=20

it is. i just want people to honour the Mail-Followup-To header that
I set and/or to think twice about where the reply should go.

--=20
martin;              (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
micro$oft is not the answer -- micro$oft is the question.
no is the answer.

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From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:04:47 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:04:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Multiple database updates
In-Reply-To: <200303191752.17843.garry@joydiv.fsnet.co.uk>
References: <200303191752.17843.garry@joydiv.fsnet.co.uk>
Message-ID: <15994.7903.697837.994803@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

garry saddington wrote at 2003-3-19 17:52 +0000:
 > I have a form which retrieves data from a database table and displays it for 
 > the user to amend. Many records are able to be changed and i would then like 
 > to be able to update all these records in the table. I can not find a way to 
 > do this as yet. Can anyone help?

You can issue several calls to a (or several) Z SQL Methods
in a single request.

Keep in mind that Z SQL Methods take their arguments from
either the REQUEST object or explicitely passed in by keyword
arguments.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:17:20 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:17:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Unable to Pack zope Database
In-Reply-To: <1048179498.2542.6.camel@konqueror.stu.uea.ac.uk>
References: <1048179498.2542.6.camel@konqueror.stu.uea.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <15994.8656.440869.768485@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Mark Stangroom wrote at 2003-3-20 16:58 +0000:
 > Over that last few days I have been unable to pack the zope database. I
 > get an error message saying "CorruptedTansactionError".

"fsrecover" (see in "utilities" or "ZODB") can fix such problems
(work with a copy!).

 > Also when I view undo transactions I have hundreds of transactions by
 > "Anonymous User" on my main index_html every few minutes.

That seems to be a different problem:

  Apparently, something in your "index_html" writes to the ZODB.
  This should be avoided ;-)


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:12:12 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:12:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change folders within Zope
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EEFC2@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EEFC2@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <15994.8348.496706.822993@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

McDonnell, Larry wrote at 2003-3-20 08:30 -0500:
 > I want to thank everyone for pointing me to the localfs product. This is
 > what I want to store all the images I expect. Now I need to point my dtml
 > document to add these files to the localfs. I have looked at the source for
 > addFile and this would work if I could redirect the folder location from
 > "current" to the localfs.

A much better way:

  Provide your own action (a Python script) that uses
  ObjectManager methods (--> embedded online API reference)
  to create object in the LocalFS.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:07:29 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:07:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to access content inside folders of zclasses?
In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20030319200213.00bed1b8@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
References: <4.3.1.0.20030319200213.00bed1b8@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <15994.8065.764371.576889@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

einar jensen wrote at 2003-3-20 00:54 +0100:
 > I have this zclass "Contentbox" in the product "contentProduct".
 > Inside the zclass i have a folder "manage_images" with some pictures.
 > ....
 > How do I reference to the content of the folder when I have instanciated my 
 > zclass? Also in the ZMI.
 > 
 > So: I want to reference the images both in the index_html in my instance of 
 > contentbox, AND in the ZMI.
 > 
 > Is there an reference on how to do this somewhere?

I am not sure, I understand your problem, but ...

  Any attribute (i.e. "method", "property") of the ZClass
  is also an attribute of its instances.

  Thus, you should be able to access the images like this:

	<yourInstance>.<yourFolder>.<yourImage>


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 19:16:52 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:16:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
In-Reply-To: <F81DT9ilXFZGin0Sb7Q000228c7@hotmail.com>
References: <F81DT9ilXFZGin0Sb7Q000228c7@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15994.5028.734240.658857@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Michael Havard wrote at 2003-3-19 21:19 +0000:
 > I've tried changing both metadata and the content with no success. The 
 > content is still only searchable when logged in.

Did you check the workflow state?

  That was the second possible cause for the problem.
  Maybe, you remember ;-)

 > ....
 > >Looks like a workflow issue or a lost reindexation.
 > >
 > >When you copy an object, it may enter its initial workflow
 > >state and then not be searchable.
 > >
 > >When you copy an object, it should index itself.
 > >Maybe, that failed.
 > >Try to force indexing by modifying the object.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:10:15 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:10:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] security setting question
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAASAqQhvsX4EiKmOuwj1prRcKAAAAQAAAAhbPrMgU+Z0m8alKYgJwGCgEAAAAA@expert-rh.com>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAASAqQhvsX4EiKmOuwj1prRcKAAAAQAAAAhbPrMgU+Z0m8alKYgJwGCgEAAAAA@expert-rh.com>
Message-ID: <15994.8231.590124.171849@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Webmaster Expert RH wrote at 2003-3-20 12:31 +0100:
 > I have a situation like this :
 > 
 > A repository filled with custom class instances ie: DATA folder( w/
 > Catalog)
 > A script that catch and sort a Catalog Query (get-selection)
 > A dtml-doc that show the results from the script <dtml-in
 > get-selection()>
 > 
 > What I want is user w/ a specific role ie : custom_user
 > To be able to :
 > - create new instances
 > - view and edit only those instances THEY have created
 > 
 > Please can you point me any path to reach this goal ?

You protect the objects quite restrictively and provide
access through scripts with an appropriate proxie role.

This implies: You learn about Zope security (--> Zope Book)
and proxie roles (--> Zope Book).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:00:03 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:00:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Unable to open manage page.
In-Reply-To: <D414AF1DAB5DD611BED20008C7C9D4E018EC4E@Mauldin>
References: <D414AF1DAB5DD611BED20008C7C9D4E018EC4E@Mauldin>
Message-ID: <15994.7619.461671.873215@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Israel Carr wrote at 2003-3-19 12:04 -0500:
 > I'm running the following:
 > Zope Version (Zope 2.5.1 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.3,
 > linux2) 
 > Python Version 2.1.3 (#1, Sep 7 2002, 15:29:56) [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian
 > prerelease)] 
 > 
 > When opening server the management page (10.1.1.1/manage), the screen shows
 > some objects in the main pane, the left nav pane is blank and the page
 > freezes.  I am then unable to connect to the server at all, even
 > non-management pages.  I must then restart zope and then everything is fine
 > until I try to open the root management page.  
 > 
 > I CAN go to (10.1.1.1/site/manage) and the mangement screen opens fine.  I
 > can click on the '/' link to up a level and the root management screen is
 > displayed but of course the left nav pane doesn't change.
 > 
 > Any ideas about this?

I saw things like this twice.

   In each case, after a lengthy analysis, it turned out that
   a database adapter instance was the culprit. It tried to
   connect to an offline database (the computer running the
   database switched off). There, it froze until the TCP timeout
   freed it again.

   The left pane is particularly sensible to this kind of problem
   as it looks deeper into the structure than the part you see.

   Other networking services may have similar problems
   (I saw one for LDAPUserFolder).

I already file a bug report.

I changed our version of ZPsycopgDA to only connect to the database
when a true database operation is requested (and not when the
database adapter is loaded from the ZODB).



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:15:33 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:15:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Basic, conceptual help / advice?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0303200902050.5785-100000@disturbance.dhs.org>
References: <3E79E239.4070200@gmx.net>
 <Pine.LNX.4.33.0303200902050.5785-100000@disturbance.dhs.org>
Message-ID: <15994.8549.452330.933191@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

zoper@disturbance.dhs.org wrote at 2003-3-20 09:09 -0800:
 > ...
 > Regarding the suggestions to use CMF: My thoughts are right in line with
 > Oliver's sentiments below: I ruled out CMF and (though it was a lesser
 > consideration anyway) Plone because they contain far more stuff that I
 > DON'T need or want

Then use only what you want and need...

We have CMF instances (lots of them) that use only

   ActionTool, SkinsTool, UrlTool, CatalogTool, PropertiesTool

Some tools require others. Thus you are not completely
independent. But, it is quite obvious how the tools are related.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 19:06:20 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:06:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ExternalFile and ZEO
In-Reply-To: <200303201141.23629.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200303190843.22879.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
 <200303201141.23629.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <15994.4396.465902.88073@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote at 2003-3-20 11:41 +0200:
 > On Wednesday 19 March 2003 22:36, Dieter Maurer wrote:
 > > We use NFS...
 > 
 > NFS: [N]o [F]ile [S]ecurity

Everything is behind a firewall and my colleagues usually
do not tamper with files...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Thu Mar 20 20:03:33 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 21:03:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <15994.7829.215594.712379@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-19 09:34 -0800:
 > I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
 > admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this morning. 
 > Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) The 
 > deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.
 > ...
 >     * Fault
 >     * <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: \nTraceback (most recent
 >       call last):\n File
 >       "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
 >       150, in publish_module\n response = publish(request, module_name,
 >       after_list, debug=debug)\n File
 >       "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
 >       114, in publish\n sys.exc_info()[2],\n File
 >       "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
 >       in zpublisher_exception_hook\n log = aq_acquire(published,
 >       \'__error_log__\', containment=1)\nAttributeError:
 >       manage_listObjects__error_log__\n'>
 > 

When you report tracebacks they are formatted in an almost unreadable
way.

   Do you think you can improve on this?

Apparently, an error should be reported.

The error handling hook tries to find the new (in 2.6) "error_log"
and can't.

This may be a bug in Zope 2.6.0.

We use ZSyncer with 2.6.1 and do not have problems....


Dieter


From jziniti@speakeasy.org  Thu Mar 20 22:43:44 2003
From: jziniti@speakeasy.org (John Ziniti)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:43:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTime error
In-Reply-To: <3E79F182.70804@web.de>
References: <3E76E871.6030900@web.de> <3E78E836.2090104@speakeasy.org> <3E79F182.70804@web.de>
Message-ID: <3E7A4420.6080108@speakeasy.org>

I credit this fix to my colleague Ross Lazarus.  I'm just
re-iterating an old anecdote I heard from him about a year
ago.  Glad it helped, Florian!

Does anyone know why this has to be the case?

Florian Konnertz wrote:

> John Ziniti wrote:
>
>>
>> Florian Konnertz wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm still bothered with the misbehaving ZopeTime object. If you 
>>> could give me further debugging tips i would be very thankful.
>>>
>>> NameError: global name 'ZopeTime' is not defined
>>
>
> > I've seen this before if Anonymous does not have the
> > permission "Access contents information" at the root
> > of your Zope installation.  It's easy to try it out at least.
> >
>
> You are my hero, John!!
>
> That's great! Unbelievable!
>
> Absolut fantastic!
>
> Insane!
>
>
> BTW, to give Authenticated the aci permission was sufficient in my case.
>
> Cheers,
> Florian
>
>
> P.S. Remember: If you're in my town one day, come over to my house, 
> i'll pay you a beer!
>
>



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar 20 23:02:49 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:02:49 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <15994.7829.215594.712379@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E7A4899.8060305@neurobs.com>

Unfortunately no error got reported in teh error log, and the error 
reported below is exactly as it was in the ZMI.

Also it was workign fine till about two days ago. Thats the whole 
problem. Why work and then suddenly break??

TIA
AM

Dieter Maurer wrote:

>AM wrote at 2003-3-19 09:34 -0800:
> > I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
> > admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this morning. 
> > Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) The 
> > deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.
> > ...
> >     * Fault
> >     * <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: \nTraceback (most recent
> >       call last):\n File
> >       "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
> >       150, in publish_module\n response = publish(request, module_name,
> >       after_list, debug=debug)\n File
> >       "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
> >       114, in publish\n sys.exc_info()[2],\n File
> >       "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
> >       in zpublisher_exception_hook\n log = aq_acquire(published,
> >       \'__error_log__\', containment=1)\nAttributeError:
> >       manage_listObjects__error_log__\n'>
> > 
>
>When you report tracebacks they are formatted in an almost unreadable
>way.
>
>   Do you think you can improve on this?
>
>Apparently, an error should be reported.
>
>The error handling hook tries to find the new (in 2.6) "error_log"
>and can't.
>
>This may be a bug in Zope 2.6.0.
>
>We use ZSyncer with 2.6.1 and do not have problems....
>
>
>Dieter
>
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-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Thu Mar 20 23:02:57 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 00:02:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Unable to Pack zope Database
In-Reply-To: <15994.8656.440869.768485@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <1048179498.2542.6.camel@konqueror.stu.uea.ac.uk> <15994.8656.440869.768485@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <b5dhbh$cqj$1@main.gmane.org>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
>  > Also when I view undo transactions I have hundreds of transactions by
>  > "Anonymous User" on my main index_html every few minutes.
> 
> That seems to be a different problem:
> 
>   Apparently, something in your "index_html" writes to the ZODB.
>   This should be avoided ;-)

There was a bug for Zope 2.5.1 and earlier releases which caused 
anonymous-HEAD-requests (http://.../page/HEAD) to create a transaction. 
Upgrading to 2.6.1 fixes this problem.

-mj

-- 
Deutsche Zope User Group
http://www.dzug.org/




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar 20 23:06:19 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:06:19 -0800
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
References: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com> <200303192207.25839.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <3E78F376.60707@p-wave.com>
Message-ID: <3E7A496B.4090200@neurobs.com>

But how do I get it to work on Linux then??
TIA
AM

Bob Corriher wrote:

>
> Hi Bo,
>
> My bad. I didn't mean that HTMLDoc wouldn't work on Linux, just that 
> the 'b' parameter to popen2 probably isn't the problem, as it is the 
> default in the Linux python library.
>
> I've had good success with HTMLDoc for most projects. I do use 
> ReportLab for database type reports, but not where I already have HTML 
> code generated as HTMLDoc does a much better job of that. It does not 
> support CSS however, so I sometimes have to generate alternate HTML 
> using the <FONT> tag and other "standard" HTML constructs.
>
> You're right about parsing with Reportlab. I originally started using 
> HTMLDoc when some of our users began embedding HTML in content and it 
> became more and more difficult to handle the tags in Reportlab.
>
> I'm not sure if Unicode will cause you a problem in HTMLDoc as I've 
> not had to use it.
>
> Reportlab and HTMLDoc are the only PDF generation tools I've used and 
> I don't know of any others.
>
> Bob Corriher
> P-Wave Inc.
>
>
> Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday 19 March 2003 18:47, Bob Corriher wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.
>>>    
>>>
>>Have you good solution to use Unicode with it? I would not like to start 
>>coding a parser with ReportLab. But if no solution, I will... :/
>>
>>  
>>
>

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From creiman@kefta.com  Thu Mar 20 23:33:10 2003
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:33:10 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7A4899.8060305@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKIEODDJAA.creiman@kefta.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of AM
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: Dieter Maurer
> Cc: Zope
> Subject: Re: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
>
>
> Unfortunately no error got reported in teh error log, and the error
> reported below is exactly as it was in the ZMI.
>
> Also it was workign fine till about two days ago. Thats the whole
> problem. Why work and then suddenly break??
>
> TIA
> AM

Are you out of disk space? Do you have a sysadmin doing things behind your
back? A malicious user roaming your network?

If it suddenly broke for no reason, then the reason probably isn't zope.



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Thu Mar 20 23:43:41 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:43:41 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Mailhost problem
Message-ID: <3E7A522D.5060501@neurobs.com>

I have been using the mailhost send API call to send email.

I found that you cant use the character ':' (colon) in the body of the 
message or else the behaviour is wierd. ie email that it sends out has 
nothing in the subject and other fields and they are inserted in the 
body of the message.

For eg:

context.mailhost.send(messageText='test : doda\n', mto=<email>, 
mfrom='email', subject='test')

sends in a email like this:

test : doda
To: aseem@neurobs.com
From: webmaster@neurobs.com
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:09:59 -0800


Anybody else see this behavior??
Are there any other characters that can cause this knid of behavior and 
need to be filtered out??

Thanks
AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From decaf@smartbusiness.nu  Fri Mar 21 00:05:20 2003
From: decaf@smartbusiness.nu (DeCaf)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:05:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
Message-ID: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com>

Hi,

I'm a Zope newbie who just started looking at this thing. The Version
functions seemed really neat up until when I tried them and I couldn't
find any way to save the changes I did in my version.  I tried
replicating what I did on a fresh install of Zope on RedHat Linux 8.0
using the binary .tgz from zope.org.

This is step-by-step what I did just after installing and starting the
server (after setting some permissions and IP-adresses and stuff):

I entered the ZMI and entered the Root Folder.
I added a new folder with id='test'
Entered folder '/test'
Created version id='myversion'
Entered version 'myversion'
Chose "Start working in version..."
Entered folder '/test'
Add new DTML Document id='index_html'
Entered index_html and made some changes to it.
Chose 'Save Changes'
Entered folder '/test'
Entered version 'myversion'
Chose "Quit working in ... "
Entered the "Save/Discard" tab.
Clicked the "Save" button.

This is what I thought I should do to make the changes I did in the
version public, but apparently that wasn't quite it. After this I
entered the folder '/test', but there was no index_html object there,
only the version object 'myversion' existed. The '/test' folder still
had the red diamond and the lock after its name. If I entered the
version and save/discard tab again it read "No non-empty versions" or
something like that. Same thing if I went to the Control-Panel and
Version Management.

Is it me who is doing something wrong? Or is there a bug in Zope?

Sincerely, Peter.





From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Mar 21 00:23:04 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:23:04 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Mailhost problem
In-Reply-To: <3E7A522D.5060501@neurobs.com>
References: <3E7A522D.5060501@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <b5dm1o$tjb$1@main.gmane.org>

AM wrote:
> I have been using the mailhost send API call to send email.
> 
> I found that you cant use the character ':' (colon) in the body of the 
> message or else the behaviour is wierd. ie email that it sends out has 
> nothing in the subject and other fields and they are inserted in the 
> body of the message.
> 
> For eg:
> 
> context.mailhost.send(messageText='test : doda\n', mto=<email>, 
> mfrom='email', subject='test')
> 
> sends in a email like this:
> 
> test : doda
> To: aseem@neurobs.com
> From: webmaster@neurobs.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 15:09:59 -0800
> 
> 
> Anybody else see this behavior??
> Are there any other characters that can cause this knid of behavior and 
> need to be filtered out??

Hi,

I can reproduce this behavior, but I don't think that it is a bug. 
You've inserted an additional mail-header into your messageText, which 
can be useful if you want to customize your mail (think of something 
like: List-Id: ZopeNews). messageText is in this respect not the same as 
the mailBody...

You can get rid of the problem, if you add an additional newline as 
seperator between headers and message-body.

text.mailhost.send(messageText='\ntest : doda\n', mto=<email>, 
mfrom='email', subject='test')

Cheers, Maik




From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Mar 21 00:26:12 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:26:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com>
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org>

DeCaf wrote:
> This is step-by-step what I did just after installing and starting the
> server (after setting some permissions and IP-adresses and stuff):
> 
...
> Chose 'Save Changes'
> Entered folder '/test'
> Entered version 'myversion'
> Chose "Quit working in ... "
> Entered the "Save/Discard" tab.
> Clicked the "Save" button.

You've quit the version before saving it... You have to save first and 
then quit the version. Read the ZopeBook for more information about 
Versions.

...
 > Chose 'Save Changes'
 > Entered folder '/test'
 > Entered version 'myversion'
 > Entered the "Save/Discard" tab.
 > Clicked the "Save" button.
 > Chose "Quit working in ... "

-mj




From johnlesch@comcast.net  Fri Mar 21 01:02:23 2003
From: johnlesch@comcast.net (John Lesch)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:02:23 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope install process on Sun box with Solaris installed
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I installed Zope 2.5 on a Sun Sparc 10 with dual processors, Solaris 8
installed and it was dog slow.
I have 2 questions:
 
1. What is the minimum size Sun box Zope will perform adequately on?
2. Are the directions to install Zope on a Sun box with solaris
installed correct or is there a different install process that needs to
be followed?
 
Thanks for your help.
 

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will perform adequately on?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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on a Sun box with <span class=SpellE>solaris</span> installed correct or is
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From kedai@kedai.com.my  Fri Mar 21 03:08:05 2003
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:08:05 +0800
Subject: [Zope] zope-2.6.1+zeo-2.0.2 not trouble
Message-ID: <200303211108.05457.kedai@kedai.com.my>

hi
since upgrading zope from 2.5.1 + zeo1, i've been having frequent zope/ze=
o=20
client hanging/not responding.

the setup:
we have zope-2.6.1-src + zeo-2.0.2 on linux with python 2.1.3

frequently, the zeo client hangs/not responding. output of ps axf is belo=
w[1]=20
and the stupid.log[2]=20

Also, nothing much in ZEO_EVENTS.log[3]

telnet localhost 8080
GET / HTTP/1.0\n\n
resulted in nothing.  no time out, nothing

running ./stop will only kill the parent process, i.e 17160 in the below=20
example.  the other processes can only be killed with a kill -9 17161.

restarting the zeoclient will make it respond again.

i've tried zeo2.1a1( iirc) and the behaviour is the same
i used to run with persistent zeo cache (ZEO_CLIENT=3D12000) in the ENV, =
but=20
running without is still the same.  i've also tried runnin with -Z1, and =
-Z-
also the same behaviour

thanks for any help/pointers
------
ps axwf [1]
# ps axf|grep py
17560 pts/0    D      0:00          \_ grep py
17160 ?        SW     0:00 /usr/bin/python2.1 /usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/z=
2.py=20
-X
17161 ?        S     16:39  \_ /usr/bin/python2.1=20
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/z2.p
17162 ?        S      0:00      \_ /usr/bin/python2.1=20
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-src/
17165 ?        R     26:09          \_ /usr/bin/python2.1=20
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-
17166 ?        S     28:26          \_ /usr/bin/python2.1=20
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-
17167 ?        S     26:50          \_ /usr/bin/python2.1=20
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-
17168 ?        S     27:11          \_ /usr/bin/python2.1=20
/usr/local/Zope-2.6.1-

[2]# tail var/stupid.log
------
2003-03-21T10:24:53 BLATHER(-100) zrpc-conn:192.168.1.2:12000 calling=20
Invalidate([('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\x0bQ\xec', ''), ('\x00\x00\x00\x00\...
------
2003-03-21T10:25:20 BLATHER(-100) zrpc-conn:192.168.1.2:12000 calling=20
Invalidate([('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00$\xae', ''), ('\x00\x00\x00\x00\...
------
2003-03-21T10:25:28 BLATHER(-100) zrpc-conn:192.168.1.2:12000 calling=20
Invalidate([('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x1c\x9a\xd9', ''), ('\x00\x00\x00\x...
------
2003-03-21T10:25:50 BLATHER(-100) zrpc-conn:192.168.1.2:12000 calling=20
Invalidate([('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\x0bQ\xea', ''), ('\x00\x00\x00\x00\...
------
2003-03-21T10:25:53 BLATHER(-100) zrpc-conn:192.168.1.2:12000 calling=20
Invalidate([('\x00\x00\x00\x00\x01\x0bQ\xea', ''), ('\x00\x00\x00\x00\...

[3]# tail -f var/ZEO_EVENTS.log
------
2003-03-21T08:43:29 INFO(0) ZSS:3458/192.168.1.3:41449 Blocked transactio=
n=20
restarted.
------
2003-03-21T08:47:38 INFO(0) ZSS:3458/192.168.1.10:52841 disconnected
------
2003-03-21T08:49:19 INFO(0) ZSS:3458 new connection ('192.168.1.10', 5019=
5):=20
<ManagedServerConnection ('192.168.1.10', 50195)>
------
2003-03-21T09:12:22 INFO(0) ZSS:3458/192.168.1.3:41449 Transaction blocke=
d=20
waiting for storage. Clients waiting: 1.
------
2003-03-21T09:12:23 INFO(0) ZSS:3458/192.168.1.2:43083 Blocked transactio=
n=20
restarted.
------
2003-03-21T10:34:18 INFO(0) ZSS:3458/192.168.1.10:50195 Transaction block=
ed=20
waiting for storage. Clients waiting: 1.
------
2003-03-21T10:34:19 INFO(0) ZSS:3458/192.168.1.2:43083 Blocked transactio=
n=20
restarted


From lennart@regebro.nu  Fri Mar 21 08:02:31 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:02:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mailhost problem
References: <3E7A522D.5060501@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <005401c2ef80$8ed6f660$ceac4cc0@desy.de>

From: "AM" <list_subscriber@neurobs.com>
> I found that you cant use the character ':' (colon) in the body of the
> message or else the behaviour is wierd. ie email that it sends out has
> nothing in the subject and other fields and they are inserted in the
> body of the message.

You can't start it with "something:<space>anything", that is correctly,
because that is how you write a header, so it will be assumed to be a
header. If you remove the space, or the colon, or insert an extra blank line
before the "test: "-part, it will work.

So, it's not a bug it's a feature. :-)




From mirsoft@gmx.net  Fri Mar 21 08:18:33 2003
From: mirsoft@gmx.net (Lubos Culen)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:18:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Question about inheriting Z Classes
Message-ID: <JIEAJEHLIBBJKIPOFCDCIECNCAAA.mirsoft@gmx.net>

Hello!

I have created my own document type (Z Class) in Zope (let's call it "My
document") and I'd like to implement other document's features into
it (concretely, it is workflow feature from Metaflow document, but it can be
anything else). I tried to do it the way I know - to create new Z Class and
inherit the existing objects as Base classes into this Z Class. But I don't
see this "Metaflow document" in the list between these classes (although
Metaflow is properly installed and used in the Zope), so there is not
possibility to inherit it as base class. Is there some possibility how to
use behavior of this class in my classes or how to inherit the class other
way?

Thank to all for the answer!

Lubos.



From dman@dman.ddts.net  Fri Mar 21 08:43:09 2003
From: dman@dman.ddts.net (Derrick 'dman' Hudson)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:43:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030318213614.GC27759@diamond.madduck.net>
References: <20030317175529.GB24477@ch208h> <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch> <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]> <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch> <20030317193743.GA31943@diamond.madduck.net> <20030318004703.GB30386@ch208h> <20030318213614.GC27759@diamond.madduck.net>
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 10:36:14PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
| also sprach Mike Renfro <renfro@tntech.edu> [2003.03.18.0147 +0100]:
| > Debian doesn't package LocalFS, that's true, but it doesn't need
| > to. Unpack it somewhere (use /usr/local/zope/LocalFS if you want to
| > keep everything separate), and symlink it into
| > /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products as needed.
|=20
| I am doing this. Still, it needs write-access to /usr, which
| I absolutely detest. Debian's philosophy and strength stems from the
| fact that only dpkg may write to /usr.

No, just put it in /var/lib/zope/Products.  That's what /var is for
:-).

(I don't have LocalFS, but I do have a couple other products there)

-D

--=20
The wise in heart are called discerning,
and pleasant words promote instruction.
        Proverbs 16:21
=20
http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/

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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Fri Mar 21 08:50:42 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:50:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope install process on Sun box with Solaris installed
In-Reply-To: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC3WXf63v1BG9swDgTDkGxsKAAAAQAAAA0gO9ifwoQUq0UmbLW9Wf1AEAAAAA@comcast.net>
References: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAC3WXf63v1BG9swDgTDkGxsKAAAAQAAAA0gO9ifwoQUq0UmbLW9Wf1AEAAAAA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200303210950.43042.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Friday 21 March 2003 02:02, John Lesch wrote:
> I installed Zope 2.5 on a Sun Sparc 10 with dual processors, Solaris 8
> installed and it was dog slow.
> I have 2 questions:
>
> 1. What is the minimum size Sun box Zope will perform adequately on?

...


> 2. Are the directions to install Zope on a Sun box with solaris
> installed correct or is there a different install process that needs to
> be followed?

I installed Zope from source on a Solaris box without any problem ; if you 
installed Python from source also, there is just a few parameters to take 
care of while configuring Python compilation for "Big Files" to be supported 
correctly.
But another thing that you should do on a dual processor Solaris box is to 
assign your Zope instance to a given CPU using "pbind" (eventually assigning 
a ZEO client on the second CPU) ; take a look at 
"http://www.zope.org/Members/glpb" to learn more about this...

Thierry
-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Fri Mar 21 08:58:05 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:28:05 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Windows login id.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12D9@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,
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I am running Zope 2.5.1 on windows. Can I get the login details of user
logged into windows programatically from zope? Please guide. Thank you.
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Regards,
Paul.

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From lsh@wo.cz  Fri Mar 21 10:06:57 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:06:57 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Reversible encryption on passwords?
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F002261D8@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: Terry Hancock <hancock@anansispaceworks.com>
: 1) You can't remind the user of their password, because you
: don't have it.
You could generate temporary random password
=20
JL.


From lsh@wo.cz  Fri Mar 21 10:44:16 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:44:16 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope does not responding
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F002261EC@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

Hi all,

I was find load problem with my Zope 2.5.1 (at W2k SP3, it is terminal
server).

When it have many connections (*), it sometimes stops without any reason.
Nothings in log, nothing written to console, Zope does not give pages and
seems running (does not respond to any connection).

(*) concurrent downloading of about 40 connections to render bunch of DTML
pages, few minutes load for cca 2000 pages - I could reproduce this
behavior with that web mirroring, but Zope sometimes (in 1-3 days) dies
without my mirroring too.

I was wait few minutes and zope still does not give pages, nor Control
panel to make shutdown. I was kill Zope and start again and is OK.

I have running Zope before for few months without any problems for one
virtual web. Now I have one more virtual web. But not much load, logfile
for all after week have cca 2MB =>average load 2 pages or images/sec (yes,
I know about "average" dis-value). I do not use much of caching, only few,
sites need to be "live".

I run virtual webs via VHM and in front of is linux "pound" non-caching
proxy. Pound load proxy server for cca 20% (486-100) in case of my huge
mirroring.

It is M$ behavior (TCP/IP stack overload?) or something totally different?

I was try to use -M "logfile" option for z2.py to get detailed log, but it
does not make that log. I have virtual logger patch installed - is that
possible cause for missing detailed log?.

Many thanks for your tips and helps
-----------------------------------

Best Regards,

J. Lukesh



From lsh@wo.cz  Fri Mar 21 10:15:01 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:15:01 -0000
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F002261E6@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: Jim Penny <jpenny@universal-fasteners.com>
: Localfs objects have to be readable (at least) by the userid that zope
: is running as.  Zope should not be run as root, for a variety of good
: reasons.  Presumably your users own their own files, and in a modern
: system, are proably in individual groups.

Another solution - what about samba server at local machine and smbfs
mounted to the same machine?

localfs_user1 --> smbfs_mountedfolder_user1 --> /home/user1
localfs_user2 --> smbfs_mountedfolder_user2 --> /home/user2
etc...

Mounting like (single line):

mount -t smbfs -o uid=3Dxxx,gid=3Dxxx,username=3Duser1,password=3Dffffff
//localhost/mountpointuser1 /zope_localfs/user1
=20

You only need to hide this file from reading at all, allow executing only=
.=20
Rights like --x--x--x root root=20

I was used years ago this similar solution for multiple thin dosemu
clients.

JL.


From decaf@smartbusiness.nu  Fri Mar 21 10:35:45 2003
From: decaf@smartbusiness.nu (DeCaf)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:35:45 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com> <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <fdql7vcr2ags1rv81aotgc2vb4usbai67j@4ax.com>

Tried this also, didn't work. I've got a feeling this ought to work,
but it just doesn't for me. Are there any other reason this might
fail, or is there a bug?  (I did read in the Zope book about versions,
but it just doesn't seem to work for me). 

Very thankful for any input on this. A transcript of what I tried now
below.

Okay, so after doing the prior  steps I did the following:

Enter folder'/test'
Enter version 'myversion'
Chose "Start working ..."
Enter '/test'
Add DTML Document 'testpage'
Enter version 'myversion'
Entered the "Save/Discard" tab
Entered some text and clicked the save button.
Chose "Quit working with version"
Entered the '/test' folder..

Still no 'index_html' document, NOR the new 'testpage' document
available in the '/test' folder.

Control-Panel->Version Management still reports "There are no
non-empty versions.".

What am I doing wrong?

Sincerely, Peter.

On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:26:12 +0100, Maik Jablonski
<maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de> wrote:

>DeCaf wrote:
>> This is step-by-step what I did just after installing and starting the
>> server (after setting some permissions and IP-adresses and stuff):
>> 
>...
>> Chose 'Save Changes'
>> Entered folder '/test'
>> Entered version 'myversion'
>> Chose "Quit working in ... "
>> Entered the "Save/Discard" tab.
>> Clicked the "Save" button.
>
>You've quit the version before saving it... You have to save first and 
>then quit the version. Read the ZopeBook for more information about 
>Versions.
>
>...
> > Chose 'Save Changes'
> > Entered folder '/test'
> > Entered version 'myversion'
> > Entered the "Save/Discard" tab.
> > Clicked the "Save" button.
> > Chose "Quit working in ... "
>
>-mj
>
>
>
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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Fri Mar 21 12:30:41 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 07:30:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Localfs not a folder
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF2EA@PROSERV>

Hi,

I installed this product and it seems to fit my needs. The big question is
what is the command that I would put in index_html for a user to run the
app. I do not want them going through the management interface if at all
possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of Paul
Winkler
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:34 PM
To: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Zope] Localfs not a folder


On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:25:20PM -0500, McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> After some testing, I finally realized that the localfs is not a folder.

True, but why doesn't it work for you?  It acts much the same as a
folder ... one major difference being that you can't give properties to
the contained items.

>    I
> am trying to avoid having user take up space in the data.fs file with them
> uploading images. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can handle
this
> problem, thanks.

You could let them add ExtImage and set permissions so they can't
create normal Images.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's GNARLEY TEACHER!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)

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From johnp@reportlab.com  Fri Mar 21 13:31:56 2003
From: johnp@reportlab.com (John Precedo)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:31:56 -0000
Subject: [Zope] [ANN] the 2003 Python UK Conference
Message-ID: <GBEDIFFLINCAGNCJCLIFMEHDDLAA.johnp@reportlab.com>

Announcement of the 2003 Python UK Conference
=============================================

The UK Python conference 2003 will take place in Oxford, on
Wednesday April 2nd and Thursday 3rd. Speakers including the Python
language founder Guido van Rossum, who will deliver the keynote
speech.

The conference will be held in the pleasant surroundings of

Holiday Inn Oxford
Pear Tree Roundabout,
Woodstock Road,
Oxford, OX2 8JD
www.holiday-inn.co.uk

We are very excited to be working once again with the ACCU to bring
the UK Python conference to life. The conference last year was a big
success with all attendees, and we hope to repeat that success with a
bigger and better line up of speakers, including the Python language
founder Guido van Rossum, who will deliver the keynote on Wednesday
2nd April.

Other speakers include:
Alex Martelli, Andy Todd, Andy Robinson, Anthony Eden, Chris Withers,
Duncan Booth, Duncan Grisby, Greg Colvin, Hamish Lawson, Jacob
Hallén, Marc-André Lemburg, and Paul Brian.

As a taster of the conference we have conducted a series of short
interviews with Python luminaries including Guido van Rossum and Eric
Raymond. The interviews will be appearing on the conference website.

Conference website:
http://www.python-uk.org/

Conference Wiki:
http://server.reportlab.com/accu-2003/moin.cgi/

To sign up please go to here:
http://www.accuconference.co.uk/registration2003.asp

And to view the schedule, please go here:
http://www.shiningrose.co.uk/pyuk/pyukSchedule_current.html

--
John Precedo  (johnp@reportlab.com)    Developer
Reportlab Europe Ltd  (http://www.reportlab.com)



From Francois@iecholden.com  Fri Mar 21 14:10:33 2003
From: Francois@iecholden.com (Meehan, Francois)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:10:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D83560F0B@exchange.iecholden.com>

Thanks all for the replies, you got me scared with the security issues,
rightfully so.

I will try Jaroslav approach, see if it is feasable.

Have a nice week-end all.

Francois 


From bobc@p-wave.com  Fri Mar 21 15:09:41 2003
From: bobc@p-wave.com (Bob Corriher)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:09:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
References: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com> <200303192207.25839.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <3E78F376.60707@p-wave.com> <3E7A496B.4090200@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E7B2B35.6090208@p-wave.com>

When I use it on Linux (RedHat 8.2), I use the method in the how-to with 
no changes and haven't had any problems. I only saw the "file does not 
start with %PDF" problem on Windows. The popen2 call was returning a 
file in text mode instead of binary mode.

Popen2 is documented here: 
 http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-popen2.html

Looking at the documentation, it says that the default mode is  't' 
(text) , so perhaps the mode parameter is required for Linux also, 
although it works for me without it.

Bob Corriher
P-Wave Inc


AM wrote:

> But how do I get it to work on Linux then??
> TIA
> AM
>
> Bob Corriher wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Bo,
>>
>> My bad. I didn't mean that HTMLDoc wouldn't work on Linux, just that 
>> the 'b' parameter to popen2 probably isn't the problem, as it is the 
>> default in the Linux python library.
>>
>> I've had good success with HTMLDoc for most projects. I do use 
>> ReportLab for database type reports, but not where I already have 
>> HTML code generated as HTMLDoc does a much better job of that. It 
>> does not support CSS however, so I sometimes have to generate 
>> alternate HTML using the <FONT> tag and other "standard" HTML 
>> constructs.
>>
>> You're right about parsing with Reportlab. I originally started using 
>> HTMLDoc when some of our users began embedding HTML in content and it 
>> became more and more difficult to handle the tags in Reportlab.
>>
>> I'm not sure if Unicode will cause you a problem in HTMLDoc as I've 
>> not had to use it.
>>
>> Reportlab and HTMLDoc are the only PDF generation tools I've used and 
>> I don't know of any others.
>>
>> Bob Corriher
>> P-Wave Inc.
>>
>>
>> Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 19 March 2003 18:47, Bob Corriher wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>> If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.
>>>>   
>>>
>>> Have you good solution to use Unicode with it? I would not like to 
>>> start coding a parser with ReportLab. But if no solution, I will... :/
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>
>




From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Mar 21 15:53:04 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:53:04 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [BUG] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <fdql7vcr2ags1rv81aotgc2vb4usbai67j@4ax.com>
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com> <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org> <fdql7vcr2ags1rv81aotgc2vb4usbai67j@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <b5fche$5to$1@main.gmane.org>

Hi Peter,

you've found a bug! Please fill out a collector issue describing the 
problem and howto reproduce it on:

http://collector.zope.org/Zope

I can reproduce the problem following your steps with 2.6.1 and 2.7...

> Enter folder'/test'
> Enter version 'myversion'
> Chose "Start working ..."
> Enter '/test'
> Add DTML Document 'testpage'
> Enter version 'myversion'
> Entered the "Save/Discard" tab
> Entered some text and clicked the save button.
> Chose "Quit working with version"
> Entered the '/test' folder..
> 
> Still no 'index_html' document, NOR the new 'testpage' document
> available in the '/test' folder.

Cheers, Maik




From hancock@anansispaceworks.com  Fri Mar 21 17:03:57 2003
From: hancock@anansispaceworks.com (Terry Hancock)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:03:57 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Reversible encryption on passwords?
In-Reply-To: <3E6B9A2F002261D8@stateless1.tiscali.cz>
References: <3E6B9A2F002261D8@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)
Message-ID: <E18wPui-0004hE-00@harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net>

On Friday 21 March 2003 02:06 am, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
> : Odesílatel: Terry Hancock <hancock@anansispaceworks.com>
> : 1) You can't remind the user of their password, because 
you
> : don't have it.
> You could generate temporary random password

Yes you can, but it annoys users.  You can afford to annoy 
your users if and only if you have a captive audience (like 
they work for your company), which unfortunately is not the 
case for me. ;-)

If I went (back) to such a scheme, I'd have to offer users 
a choice, which would be sort of unpleasant on the 
programming side.  So I've been thinking about the problem 
some more to see if there's something better.

In principle, if I use SSL for connections, then the only 
real risk is that an outsider can get hold of the user 
database used for authentication. But that's probably not 
really that hard.  Right now, it doesn't matter so much, 
because the protected information isn't that sensitive -- 
so we use plaintext (and not even SSL) now, but in the 
future, we might be storing more sensitive information.

Another option is to actually use two passwords -- a low 
security one that does the current job and a 
higher-security one for the expansion stuff (and encrypt 
that one in the usual way).  That's sort of annoying too, 
though.

Still thinking about it.

Cheers,
Terry

--
Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com )
Anansi Spaceworks  http://www.anansispaceworks.com


From andy@agmweb.ca  Fri Mar 21 17:26:26 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:26:26 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Windows login id.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12D9@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12D9@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <3E7B4B42.4030707@agmweb.ca>

> I am running Zope 2.5.1 on windows. Can I get the login details of user 
> logged into windows programatically from zope? Please guide. Thank you.

If you can it will be most likely in the win32all package documentation.

http://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/win32/
-- 
   Andy McKay



From jpenny@universal-fasteners.com  Fri Mar 21 17:31:00 2003
From: jpenny@universal-fasteners.com (Jim Penny)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:31:00 -0500
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
In-Reply-To: <3E6B9A2F002261E6@stateless1.tiscali.cz>
References: <3E6B9A2F002261E6@stateless1.tiscali.cz>
Message-ID: <20030321173100.GC28504@universal-fasteners.com>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 10:15:01AM -0000, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
> : Odesílatel: Jim Penny <jpenny@universal-fasteners.com>
> : Localfs objects have to be readable (at least) by the userid that zope
> : is running as.  Zope should not be run as root, for a variety of good
> : reasons.  Presumably your users own their own files, and in a modern
> : system, are proably in individual groups.
> 
> Another solution - what about samba server at local machine and smbfs
> mounted to the same machine?
> 
> localfs_user1 --> smbfs_mountedfolder_user1 --> /home/user1
> localfs_user2 --> smbfs_mountedfolder_user2 --> /home/user2
> etc...
> 
> Mounting like (single line):
> 
> mount -t smbfs -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx,username=user1,password=ffffff
> //localhost/mountpointuser1 /zope_localfs/user1
>  
> 
> You only need to hide this file from reading at all, allow executing only. 
> Rights like --x--x--x root root 

I am unclear what you mean by this file.  Are you talking about the 
mount script here?  Or are you talking about /zope_localfs/user1?

> 
> I was used years ago this similar solution for multiple thin dosemu
> clients.
> 
> JL.

But, presumably the uid or gid has to be the same for all users, that
is, it has to be the uid or gid that zope itself is running as.  So, you
are allowing zope, or anyone who has access to that userid to do
whatever they will to the user directories!  That is, the zope userid
becomes a full proxy for each actual userid mounted using this technique.

We have fully bypassed normal filesystem security again;  in a worse way
than a suid root agent, because we have nothing responsible for enforcing the
policy, nothing can check that the policy is being followed.

There is nothing wrong with the idea of using zope to access home
directories, provided you are willing to live with the consequences.
But you are making your life more interesting in many ways.  Any way
that you do this, you have a one-many map of zope userid to actual
userid.  That is, you are, by necessity, allowing a single userid to
proxy for many userids.  This is OK!

But you have to be very sure that you trust all the software in the
chain.  That means zope, any interface software that you write, any
portions of python that are used, and any other agents that are used to
validate each access attempt.  It also means that you have to trust your
users and their password protection habits.

To me, this is an uncomfortably long chain of trust - I especially worry
about my own mistakes, which are less likely to receive "many eyeballs".
None the less, if I were doing this, I would talk first to my users and
get an acceptible security policy.  Then, I would definitely write my own
SUID root program that did any file retrieval and writing, and that
attempted to enforce that policy.  The difficulty with this is that full
Unix semantics are a bit tricky, and this might make the SUID root
program more complicated than I would like.

If I were doing this, I would probably make my users do something
proactive; like making them put anything that they wanted access to into
a /home/user1/visible_via_zope directory.  Then "best effort" security
is much more palatable.

Jim Penny
> 
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From dacain@library.syr.edu  Fri Mar 21 17:10:12 2003
From: dacain@library.syr.edu (David Cain)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:10:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Using index.htm(l) files like index_html
Message-ID: <001301c2efcc$bbc8a190$65ebe680@WSLIS235101>

How can I customize my Zope server to treat index.html and index.htm
files like index_html files?

Thanks

David Cain
Senior Web Developer, Information Systems Department 
Syracuse University Library
Syracuse, New York 13244-2010
(315) 443-5923
mailto:dacain@library.syr.edu
mailto:dacain@syr.edu



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Fri Mar 21 17:47:45 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:47:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Warning: don't refresh MonkeyPatches
Message-ID: <20030321174745.GB10697@slinkp.com>

Posting this on the off chance that it saves someone the week
of hair-tearing that I've just experienced...

I sometimes find MonkeyPatches a convenient way to globally change 
behavior of zope or 3rd-party products. But I just discovered
something very important:

it's apparently NOT safe to "refresh" a MonkeyPatch-style product.

I have a monkeypatch that works fine until I refresh it, then I get
mysterious errors like "Object of type 'None' is not callable" with no
indication in the traceback of what object is None or even what's 
trying to call it!
In a debugging session, I explored everything near the end of the 
traceback and could not find any variables that are None. I know
it's in there somewhere...

If I restart zope, everything works fine.


-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's THE BAT-FLAGELLA!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From madduck@madduck.net  Fri Mar 21 18:01:06 2003
From: madduck@madduck.net (martin f krafft)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:01:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: publishing external files
In-Reply-To: <20030321084309.GA6459@dman.ddts.net>
References: <20030317180225.GB6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761835.2030200@friedman.ch> <20030317174439.GA23914@diamond.madduck.net> <2147483647.1047927036@[192.168.0.2]> <20030317180021.GA6938@diamond.madduck.net> <3E761A24.8040607@friedman.ch> <20030317193743.GA31943@diamond.madduck.net> <20030318004703.GB30386@ch208h> <20030318213614.GC27759@diamond.madduck.net> <20030321084309.GA6459@dman.ddts.net>
Message-ID: <20030321180106.GA31295@diamond.madduck.net>

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also sprach Derrick 'dman' Hudson <dman@dman.ddts.net> [2003.03.21.0943 +01=
00]:
> No, just put it in /var/lib/zope/Products.  That's what /var is for
> :-).

good point. well, having Zope read a second directory in /usr/local
would be really handy and allow for nicer separation.

whatever, good to see you here, mr. dman...

--=20
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  \____ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:" net@madduck
=20
keyserver problems? http://keyserver.kjsl.com/~jharris/keyserver.html
get my key here: http://madduck.net/me/gpg/publickey
=20
in what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital?

--zhXaljGHf11kAtnf
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From stefan@epy.co.at  Fri Mar 21 18:04:48 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:04:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Warning: don't refresh MonkeyPatches
In-Reply-To: <20030321174745.GB10697@slinkp.com>
References: <20030321174745.GB10697@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <1354250891.1048273488@[172.16.8.4]>

As an extra precaution you could explicitly disallow a refresh by setting

__refresh_module__ =3D 0

in your monkey patch module.

Stefan


--On Freitag, 21. M=E4rz 2003 12:47 -0500 Paul Winkler =
<pw_lists@slinkp.com>=20
wrote:

> Posting this on the off chance that it saves someone the week
> of hair-tearing that I've just experienced...
>
> I sometimes find MonkeyPatches a convenient way to globally change
> behavior of zope or 3rd-party products. But I just discovered
> something very important:
>
> it's apparently NOT safe to "refresh" a MonkeyPatch-style product.
>
> I have a monkeypatch that works fine until I refresh it, then I get
> mysterious errors like "Object of type 'None' is not callable" with no
> indication in the traceback of what object is None or even what's
> trying to call it!
> In a debugging session, I explored everything near the end of the
> traceback and could not find any variables that are None. I know
> it's in there somewhere...
>
> If I restart zope, everything works fine.

--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Fri Mar 21 18:18:45 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:18:45 -0800
Subject: [Zope] [possibly OT] html2pdf on zope
References: <3E789F29.5090000@p-wave.com> <200303192207.25839.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <3E78F376.60707@p-wave.com> <3E7A496B.4090200@neurobs.com> <3E7B2B35.6090208@p-wave.com>
Message-ID: <3E7B5785.2010902@neurobs.com>

The problem is that it works from the command line, the very same 
command that is called in the popen in the script on the how-to.

Just that if I try to access it via a browser on windows thats what I get.

Try the following URL:

http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/index_html/html2pdf

TIA
AM

Bob Corriher wrote:

> When I use it on Linux (RedHat 8.2), I use the method in the how-to 
> with no changes and haven't had any problems. I only saw the "file 
> does not start with %PDF" problem on Windows. The popen2 call was 
> returning a file in text mode instead of binary mode.
>
> Popen2 is documented here: 
> http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-popen2.html
>
> Looking at the documentation, it says that the default mode is  't' 
> (text) , so perhaps the mode parameter is required for Linux also, 
> although it works for me without it.
>
> Bob Corriher
> P-Wave Inc
>
>
> AM wrote:
>
>> But how do I get it to work on Linux then??
>> TIA
>> AM
>>
>> Bob Corriher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bo,
>>>
>>> My bad. I didn't mean that HTMLDoc wouldn't work on Linux, just that 
>>> the 'b' parameter to popen2 probably isn't the problem, as it is the 
>>> default in the Linux python library.
>>>
>>> I've had good success with HTMLDoc for most projects. I do use 
>>> ReportLab for database type reports, but not where I already have 
>>> HTML code generated as HTMLDoc does a much better job of that. It 
>>> does not support CSS however, so I sometimes have to generate 
>>> alternate HTML using the <FONT> tag and other "standard" HTML 
>>> constructs.
>>>
>>> You're right about parsing with Reportlab. I originally started 
>>> using HTMLDoc when some of our users began embedding HTML in content 
>>> and it became more and more difficult to handle the tags in Reportlab.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if Unicode will cause you a problem in HTMLDoc as I've 
>>> not had to use it.
>>>
>>> Reportlab and HTMLDoc are the only PDF generation tools I've used 
>>> and I don't know of any others.
>>>
>>> Bob Corriher
>>> P-Wave Inc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 19 March 2003 18:47, Bob Corriher wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> If you're on Linux or Unix, this probably isn't the answer.
>>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you good solution to use Unicode with it? I would not like to 
>>>> start coding a parser with ReportLab. But if no solution, I will... :/
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Fri Mar 21 19:14:25 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:14:25 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
References: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKIEODDJAA.creiman@kefta.com>
Message-ID: <3E7B6491.7090008@neurobs.com>

None. Lots of disk space. Sysadmin prety much leaves me alone. Malicious 
user??? been checking & cant find a trace. The error is so f...ing cryptic:

    * Fault
    * <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: \nTraceback (most recent
      call last):\n File
      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
      150, in publish_module\n response = publish(request, module_name,
      after_list, debug=debug)\n File
      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
      114, in publish\n sys.exc_info()[2],\n File
      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
      in zpublisher_exception_hook\n log = aq_acquire(published,
      \'__error_log__\', containment=1)\nAttributeError:
      manage_listObjects__error_log__\n'>

I know it has do with an error log, but what??

Or it cant handle 2.6.1 error_log stuf??

TIA
AM

Charlie Reiman wrote:

>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of AM
>>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 3:03 PM
>>To: Dieter Maurer
>>Cc: Zope
>>Subject: Re: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
>>
>>
>>Unfortunately no error got reported in teh error log, and the error
>>reported below is exactly as it was in the ZMI.
>>
>>Also it was workign fine till about two days ago. Thats the whole
>>problem. Why work and then suddenly break??
>>
>>TIA
>>AM
>>    
>>
>
>Are you out of disk space? Do you have a sysadmin doing things behind your
>back? A malicious user roaming your network?
>
>If it suddenly broke for no reason, then the reason probably isn't zope.
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 





From renfro@tntech.edu  Fri Mar 21 20:11:21 2003
From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:11:21 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Using index.htm(l) files like index_html
In-Reply-To: <001301c2efcc$bbc8a190$65ebe680@WSLIS235101>
References: <001301c2efcc$bbc8a190$65ebe680@WSLIS235101>
Message-ID: <20030321201121.GC25666@ch208h>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 12:10:12PM -0500, David Cain wrote:

> How can I customize my Zope server to treat index.html and index.htm
> files like index_html files?

http://www.zope.org/Members/Zen/tip_oldIndexDotHtmlSupport

-- 
Mike Renfro  / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research,
931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu


From mlong@datalong.com  Fri Mar 21 20:48:45 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 15:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help using list within python method
Message-ID: <E18wTRV-0001tH-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

I have a method that is returning an error that I have not been able to
resolve. I have tried to duplicate the error in python to no avail. I am
sure the solution is very simple I just don't see it.

tia,
Mike

 Here is the method:

    172         def listEntriesByGroup(self, groups=["All"]):
    173                 "Method to list Entries"
    174                 ret=[]
    175                 if type(groups) != ListType:
    176                         EntryIDs = [groups]
    177                 if groups == "All":
    178                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
    179                                 ret.append(entry)
    180                 else:
    181                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
    182                                 if entry.Group in groups:
    183                                         ret.append(entry)
    184                 return ret

The traceback is:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
  Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 134, in index_html
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 96, in _exec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 95, in pt_render
   - <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 186, in __call__
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 689, in do_useMacro
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 712, in do_defineSlot
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 578, in do_insertStructure_tal
  Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 217, in evaluate
   - URL: main_page
   - Line 14, Column 16
   - Expression: standard:'here/content'
   - Names:
      {'container': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
       'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at
0x868e42c>,
       'here': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
       'loop': <SafeMapping instance at 84c75e0>,
       'modules':
<Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at
0x86b2b7c>,
       'nothing': None,
       'options': {'args': (<AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
                            <HTTPRequest,
URL=http://zeus:8080/TEST/test/index_html>)},
       'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at 84c75e0>,
       'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://zeus:8080/TEST/test/index_html>,
       'root': <Application instance at 9643db0>,
       'template': <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>,
       'traverse_subpath': [],
       'user': admin}
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 206, in __call__
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 201, in _eval
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 100, in render
  Module Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr, line 74, in call_with_ns
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 266, in __render_with_namespace__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 96, in _exec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 95, in pt_render
   - <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 186, in __call__
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
  Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 459, in do_setLocal_tal
  Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 217, in evaluate
   - URL: indexAddressBook
   - Line 1, Column 0
   - Expression: <PythonExpr here.listEntriesByGroup(SelectedGroup)>
   - Names:
      {'container': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
       'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at
0x868e42c>,
       'here': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
       'loop': <SafeMapping instance at 90ae240>,
       'modules':
<Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at
0x86b2b7c>,
       'nothing': None,
       'options': {'args': ()},
       'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at 90ae240>,
       'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://zeus:8080/TEST/test/index_html>,
       'root': <Application instance at 9643db0>,
       'template': <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>,
       'traverse_subpath': [],
       'user': admin}
  Module Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr, line 48, in __call__
   - __traceback_info__: here.listEntriesByGroup(SelectedGroup)
  Module Python expression "here.listEntriesByGroup(SelectedGroup)",
line 2, in f
  Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 182, in listEntriesByGroup
TypeError: 'in <string>' requires character as left operand




From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 21 20:57:40 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:57:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope does not responding
In-Reply-To: <3E6B9A2F002261EC@stateless1.tiscali.cz>
References: <3E6B9A2F002261EC@stateless1.tiscali.cz>
Message-ID: <15995.31940.235983.658@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jaroslav Lukesh wrote at 2003-3-21 10:44 -0000:
 > I was find load problem with my Zope 2.5.1 (at W2k SP3, it is terminal
 > server).
 > 
 > When it have many connections (*), it sometimes stops without any reason.
 > ....
 > It is M$ behavior (TCP/IP stack overload?) or something totally different?

I fear, there is some hidden Zope bug.

We see similar behaviour for Zope on Solaris (but not Linux).



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 21 20:21:48 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:21:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com>
 <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <15995.29788.868306.226646@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Maik Jablonski wrote at 2003-3-21 01:26 +0100:
 > ...
 > You've quit the version before saving it... You have to save first and 
 > then quit the version. Read the ZopeBook for more information about 
 > Versions.

I never do this. And I think, it should not be necessary.

Entering/quitting on one hand and saving/discarding are orthogonal
and do not affect each other.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 21 20:55:19 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:55:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Question about inheriting Z Classes
In-Reply-To: <JIEAJEHLIBBJKIPOFCDCIECNCAAA.mirsoft@gmx.net>
References: <JIEAJEHLIBBJKIPOFCDCIECNCAAA.mirsoft@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <15995.31799.445664.783997@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lubos Culen wrote at 2003-3-21 09:18 +0100:
 > ...
 > I tried to do it the way I know - to create new Z Class and
 > inherit the existing objects as Base classes into this Z Class. But I don't
 > see this "Metaflow document" in the list between these classes (although
 > Metaflow is properly installed and used in the Zope),

Base classes for ZClasses need a special registration.

Consult the ZClass documentation, maybe in the ZDG (Zope
Developper Guide).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 21 20:52:52 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:52:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZODB Transactions
In-Reply-To: <200303202138.30159.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200303202138.30159.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <15995.31652.176454.388468@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote at 2003-3-20 21:38 +0200:
 > ... mass importing many files ...

I fear, you must call intermittent

  "get_transaction().commit()"

to commit, to reduce the danger of ConflictError's.

You should be aware, that this is no guarantee that
the "commit" does not raise a conflict error.
In this case, you should abort the transaction
and then retry the upload for the
failed file (do not forget
to reset the file to its start).

You may also see "ReadConflictError"s outside of the "commit".
Here again, abort the transaction and retry for the failed file.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 21 20:30:16 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:30:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope-2.6.1+zeo-2.0.2 not trouble
In-Reply-To: <200303211108.05457.kedai@kedai.com.my>
References: <200303211108.05457.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <15995.30296.423787.130378@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote at 2003-3-21 11:08 +0800:
 > ....
 > running ./stop will only kill the parent process, i.e 17160 in the below 
 > example.  the other processes can only be killed with a kill -9 17161.

You find a corresponding problem report and patch in the collector:

  Zope's shutdown implementation (new in 2.6.1) is broken.
  It tries to close the database connections inside
  the signal handler. As it acquires a lock for this,
  a deadlock results when another thread helds the lock.

That patch is very crude.

Toby has a more general solution in a CVS branch.

Search the archives for details.


All the above is only about the 'cannot be killed other than by "kill -9"'.
It does not address the hanging.

We, too, see this behaviour -- but only under Solaris and
not under Linux. We use ZEO 1 with Zope 2.6.1.


Dieter


From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Fri Mar 21 21:02:46 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:02:46 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help using list within python method
In-Reply-To: <E18wTRV-0001tH-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18wTRV-0001tH-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <20030321210246.GD10697@slinkp.com>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:48:45PM -0500, Michael Long wrote:

>     172         def listEntriesByGroup(self, groups=["All"]):
>     173                 "Method to list Entries"
>     174                 ret=[]
>     175                 if type(groups) != ListType:
>     176                         EntryIDs = [groups]

you don't use EntryIDs again... maybe you mean:
    groups=[groups]

>     177                 if groups == "All":
>     178                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
>     179                                 ret.append(entry)
>     180                 else:
>     181                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
>     182                                 if entry.Group in groups:

(snip)
>   Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 182, in listEntriesByGroup
> TypeError: 'in <string>' requires character as left operand

yep, you passed in groups="some string" and didn't convert it to a list
before looping over it.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's PUMA NAZI!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)


From tpassin@mitretek.org  Fri Mar 21 21:10:37 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:10:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help using list within python method
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C689@email1.mitretek.org>

[Michael Long]
>=20
> I have a method that is returning an error that I have not=20
> been able to
> resolve. I have tried to duplicate the error in python to no=20
> avail. I am
> sure the solution is very simple I just don't see it.
>=20
>=20
>  Here is the method:
>=20
>     172         def listEntriesByGroup(self, groups=3D["All"]):
>     173                 "Method to list Entries"
>     174                 ret=3D[]
>     175                 if type(groups) !=3D ListType:
>     176                         EntryIDs =3D [groups]
>     177                 if groups =3D=3D "All":
>     178                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
>     179                                 ret.append(entry)
>     180                 else:
>     181                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
>     182                                 if entry.Group in groups:
>     183                                         ret.append(entry)
>     184                 return ret
>=20
> The traceback is:
[snip]=20
>   Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 182, in=20
> listEntriesByGroup
> TypeError: 'in <string>' requires character as left operand

Your test if groups =3D=3D "All" must always fail if no argument is =
passed
in(since the default argument is a list, not a string)  or if the
argument is a string.  If so, you will always execute the "else" at line
180, where the traceback says the error is..

Now if groups is really a string and entry.Group is not a string, that
would cause the error.  So you had best check to see what type of
critter you are using there.

Are you sure  you did not mean to make use of EntryID somewhere?

Cheers,

Tom P


From mlong@datalong.com  Fri Mar 21 21:13:00 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:13:00 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help using list within python method (Solved?)
Message-ID: <E18wToy-0002VT-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

I changed line 182 to read:

      if groups == entry.Group:

and it seems to work. I still don't understand why the "in" operator
does not work as expected.

Mike

> 
> I have a method that is returning an error that I have not been able to
> resolve. I have tried to duplicate the error in python to no avail. I am
> sure the solution is very simple I just don't see it.
> 
> tia,
> Mike
> 
>  Here is the method:
> 
>     172         def listEntriesByGroup(self, groups=["All"]):
>     173                 "Method to list Entries"
>     174                 ret=[]
>     175                 if type(groups) != ListType:
>     176                         EntryIDs = [groups]
>     177                 if groups == "All":
>     178                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
>     179                                 ret.append(entry)
>     180                 else:
>     181                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
>     182                                 if entry.Group in groups:
>     183                                         ret.append(entry)
>     184                 return ret
> 
> The traceback is:
> 
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
>   Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
>   Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
>   Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 134, in index_html
>   Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 252, in __call__
>   Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 96, in _exec
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 95, in pt_render
>    - <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 186, in __call__
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 689, in do_useMacro
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 712, in do_defineSlot
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 578, in do_insertStructure_tal
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 217, in evaluate
>    - URL: main_page
>    - Line 14, Column 16
>    - Expression: standard:'here/content'
>    - Names:
>       {'container': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
>        'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at
> 0x868e42c>,
>        'here': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
>        'loop': <SafeMapping instance at 84c75e0>,
>        'modules':
> <Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at
> 0x86b2b7c>,
>        'nothing': None,
>        'options': {'args': (<AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
>                             <HTTPRequest,
> URL=http://zeus:8080/TEST/test/index_html>)},
>        'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at 84c75e0>,
>        'request': <HTTPRequest,
URL=http://zeus:8080/TEST/test/index_html>,
>        'root': <Application instance at 9643db0>,
>        'template': <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>,
>        'traverse_subpath': [],
>        'user': admin}
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 206, in __call__
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 201, in _eval
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 100, in render
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr, line 74, in call_with_ns
>   Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 266, in
__render_with_namespace__
>   Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 283, in _bindAndExec
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 96, in _exec
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 95, in pt_render
>    - <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 186, in __call__
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 230, in interpret
>   Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 459, in do_setLocal_tal
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 217, in evaluate
>    - URL: indexAddressBook
>    - Line 1, Column 0
>    - Expression: <PythonExpr here.listEntriesByGroup(SelectedGroup)>
>    - Names:
>       {'container': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
>        'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default instance at
> 0x868e42c>,
>        'here': <AddressBook at /TEST/test>,
>        'loop': <SafeMapping instance at 90ae240>,
>        'modules':
> <Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter instance at
> 0x86b2b7c>,
>        'nothing': None,
>        'options': {'args': ()},
>        'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at 90ae240>,
>        'request': <HTTPRequest,
URL=http://zeus:8080/TEST/test/index_html>,
>        'root': <Application instance at 9643db0>,
>        'template': <PageTemplateFile at /TEST/test/>,
>        'traverse_subpath': [],
>        'user': admin}
>   Module Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr, line 48, in __call__
>    - __traceback_info__: here.listEntriesByGroup(SelectedGroup)
>   Module Python expression "here.listEntriesByGroup(SelectedGroup)",
> line 2, in f
>   Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 182, in
listEntriesByGroup
> TypeError: 'in <string>' requires character as left operand
> 
> 
> 
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From mlong@datalong.com  Fri Mar 21 21:26:35 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:26:35 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help using list within python method
Message-ID: <E18wU27-000397-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

DOH...that was a bonehead mistake :(.

Thanks for the help.

Mike

> On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 03:48:45PM -0500, Michael Long wrote:
> 
> >     172         def listEntriesByGroup(self, groups=["All"]):
> >     173                 "Method to list Entries"
> >     174                 ret=[]
> >     175                 if type(groups) != ListType:
> >     176                         EntryIDs = [groups]
> 
> you don't use EntryIDs again... maybe you mean:
>     groups=[groups]
> 
> >     177                 if groups == "All":
> >     178                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
> >     179                                 ret.append(entry)
> >     180                 else:
> >     181                         for entry in self.Entries.values():
> >     182                                 if entry.Group in groups:
> 
> (snip)
> >   Module Products.dlAddressBook.AddressBook, line 182, in
listEntriesByGroup
> > TypeError: 'in <string>' requires character as left operand
> 
> yep, you passed in groups="some string" and didn't convert it to a list
> before looping over it.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Paul Winkler
> http://www.slinkp.com
> Look! Up in the sky! It's PUMA NAZI!
> (random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
> 
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From tpassin@mitretek.org  Fri Mar 21 21:31:09 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:31:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Help using list within python method (Solved?)
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C696@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Michael Long]
>=20
> I changed line 182 to read:
>=20
>       if groups =3D=3D entry.Group:
>=20
> and it seems to work. I still don't understand why the "in" operator
> does not work as expected.
>=20

IDLE 0.8 -- press F1 for help
>>> gg =3D ['a','b']
>>> aa =3D 'this is a test'
>>> print aa in gg
0
>>> print gg in aa
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<pyshell#3>", line 1, in ?
    print gg in aa
TypeError: 'in <string>' requires character as left operand
>>>=20

You are mixing and matching data types in a way that does not work

Cheers,

Tom P


From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Fri Mar 21 22:00:16 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:00:16 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <15995.29788.868306.226646@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com>
 <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org> <15995.29788.868306.226646@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E7B8B70.7050503@uni-bielefeld.de>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Maik Jablonski wrote at 2003-3-21 01:26 +0100:
>  > ...
>  > You've quit the version before saving it... You have to save first and 
>  > then quit the version. Read the ZopeBook for more information about 
>  > Versions.
> 
> I never do this. And I think, it should not be necessary.
> 
> Entering/quitting on one hand and saving/discarding are orthogonal
> and do not affect each other.

But if you want to see the results of your work done in a version, you 
have to save first (before quitting the version), aren't you? Leaving a 
version without saving this version will give you no public visible 
change... something what the original poster wanted to see.

Cheers, Maik



From tempnospam1@friedman.ch  Fri Mar 21 22:17:08 2003
From: tempnospam1@friedman.ch (Gidon Friedman)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:17:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [BUG] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <b5fche$5to$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com> <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org> <fdql7vcr2ags1rv81aotgc2vb4usbai67j@4ax.com> <b5fche$5to$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E7B8F64.4080401@friedman.ch>

Look at issue 817 first, may be the same thing.

regrads

gidon

Maik Jablonski wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> you've found a bug! Please fill out a collector issue describing the 
> problem and howto reproduce it on:
>
> http://collector.zope.org/Zope
>
> I can reproduce the problem following your steps with 2.6.1 and 2.7...
>
>> Enter folder'/test'
>> Enter version 'myversion'
>> Chose "Start working ..."
>> Enter '/test'
>> Add DTML Document 'testpage'
>> Enter version 'myversion'
>> Entered the "Save/Discard" tab
>> Entered some text and clicked the save button.
>> Chose "Quit working with version"
>> Entered the '/test' folder..
>>
>> Still no 'index_html' document, NOR the new 'testpage' document
>> available in the '/test' folder.
>
>
> Cheers, Maik
>
>
>
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From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Sat Mar 22 00:48:50 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:48:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com>

I downloaded the latest version, reinstalled it on both machines.

It works on one and fails on the other:

The error again:

<Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150, 
in publish_module
response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, 
in publish
sys.exc_info()[2],
File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145, 
in zpublisher_exception_hook
log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
'>

Any ideas anybody??

TIA
AM

AM wrote:

> I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
> admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this 
> morning. Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) 
> The deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.
>
> Any ideas??
>
> The error:
>
> Error:
>
>    * Fault
>    * <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: \nTraceback (most recent
>      call last):\n File
>      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
>      150, in publish_module\n response = publish(request, module_name,
>      after_list, debug=debug)\n File
>      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
>      114, in publish\n sys.exc_info()[2],\n File
>      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
>      in zpublisher_exception_hook\n log = aq_acquire(published,
>      \'__error_log__\', containment=1)\nAttributeError:
>      manage_listObjects__error_log__\n'>
>
>
> TIA
> AM
>


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From bharad@attbi.com  Sat Mar 22 01:03:21 2003
From: bharad@attbi.com (Ragu Bharadwaj)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 17:03:21 -0800
Subject: [Zope] External method question
Message-ID: <132B3F4E-5C02-11D7-B70B-000393C6994C@attbi.com>

Is there an easy way to create a copy of a folder from within a Python 
External Method in Zope? If so where is this documented?

cheers
-Ragu



From missive@hotmail.com  Sat Mar 22 02:27:57 2003
From: missive@hotmail.com (Lee Harr)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 02:27:57 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: External method question
Message-ID: <BAY2-F44VRIjn04x29x0003f5f9@hotmail.com>

>Is there an easy way to create a copy of a folder from within a Python
>External Method in Zope? If so where is this documented?

How about manage_clone  ?

This is not the best link... but:
http://zdp.zope.org/projects/zqr/ZQR/objectreference

google around and you will probably find
something better.


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From master@mail.trend-go.com  Sat Mar 22 03:51:13 2003
From: master@mail.trend-go.com (master)
Date: 22 Mar 2003 11:51:13 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Happy Lady Day
Message-ID: <CXLMW2OJUZTryPqzCcQ00030936@cathaylife.com.tw>

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From ANTIGEN_EXCHANGE@iecholden.com  Sat Mar 22 03:55:22 2003
From: ANTIGEN_EXCHANGE@iecholden.com (ANTIGEN_EXCHANGE)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 22:55:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Antigen found VIRUS= Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky,CA(Ve
 t)) virus
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D8359B95B@exchange.iecholden.com>

Antigen for Exchange found Unknown infected with VIRUS=
Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky,CA(Vet)) virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, "[Zope] Happy Lady Day", was
sent from zope-admin@zope.org and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Holden/cdl/EXCHANGE.


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sat Mar 22 04:55:46 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 08:55:46 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Need a way to prevent new members form subscribing DIR
 ECTLY
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C117@AUHEXCH>

I'd also be interested in finding out if there's a pre-packaged product for
this. It would help me improve my code/logic.

I needed to use similar logic and had to program this in. All new users have
to select the appropriate approval manager (in my case, a group manager)
when their account is created. The username is stored in a 'pending' list (a
property associated with the group manager, i.e., a dictionary with group
manager names corresponding to list of new usernames). When a group manager
logs in, a list of all pending membership requests are displayed on his/her
start page. The group manager will either approve the request or disallow
membership, providing appropriate reasons for this to the user, etc.

On approval, I move the username to a list named 'authorized', which also
has a global equivalent, similar to the 'pending' list.

I still haven't been able to figure out a good way of handling a user who
has already been turned down for membership. 
 - How do I handle their logins when they return? Do I redirect them?
 - How do I prevent him/her from applying again? (I don't think I can)
I've consider allowing them to believe they've been approved when they
haven't, and not providing access to certain resources. Another idea is to
move them to a pre-defined group (e.g., 'Approved') with special privileges.
There's no right answer, I guess I'll just have to figure out what works
best for me. We're still in alpha testing.

I used a combination of DTML, for display, and Python scripts, mainly for
constructing/managing the property sheet(s).

Of course, I'm giving you a simplified version of what we actually had to
do, but the principles remains the same.

HTH.

Samir.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean Baltus [mailto:jean.baltus@africamuseum.be]
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 17:39
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Need a way to prevent new members form subscribing DIRECTLY


Hi all,

Is there a way to delay the subscription of new members to a Plone site? 
I would like to put new members on "pending state" and then give the manager
the ability to either approve the subscription or reject the subscription. 

Is there a way to do this in Plone? Is there a product available to do that?

-- Jean


From fbarousse@piensa.com  Sat Mar 22 05:20:36 2003
From: fbarousse@piensa.com (Felipe Barousse =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bou=E9?=)
Date: 21 Mar 2003 23:20:36 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Deleted role and user's assigned role behavior.
Message-ID: <1048310435.1912.13.camel@monster.piensa.com>

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Hello Zopistas:

Just wanted to check if this is a bug or a feature:

All this following is made programatically with a combination of DTML
and python external methods.

I add a Role, let's call it "role-1"  and I assign it to say "user-1",=20

Later on, programatically I delete "role-1" with a :

<dtml-call "manage_defined_roles('Delete Role', REQUEST)">

Having passed the "roles" list in the REQUEST with the "role-1" I want
to delete.  "role-1" is succesfully deleted from the place (tree level)
where it was previously added.

Now, it happens that if I view a method which has:

<dtml-in "AUTHENTICATED_USER.getRoles()">
   <dtml-unless "_.getitem('sequence-item')=3D=3D'Authenticated'"><b>
    <dtml-var sequence-item></b><br>
   </dtml-unless>
</dtml-in>

It still displays the "role-1" role as one of the assigned roles to the
user (the AUTHENTICATED_USER, i.e. "user-1" in this example). How come
is "role-1" still assigned to the user even it was deleted (the role).?

If I again, manually or programatically add up again "role-1" at the
same level it was originally entered, it happens that "user-1"
automagically gets "role-1" as one of its assigned roles.

Now, the question is:  Is this a bug or a feature ?  I would have
expected Zope, either to:

1.- Do not allow role deletions if there are users with that role
assigned.

or

2.- Delete the role with no further questions and delete all assignments
to any and all users that have that role assigned at role deletion time.

or

3.- A more complex combination of validations.....

Any comments on the above behavior are appreciated.

Thanks and best regards.

Felipe Barousse.

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From not4tcom@zeelandnet.nl  Sat Mar 22 10:05:19 2003
From: not4tcom@zeelandnet.nl (not4tcom)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:05:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] cronjob problem
Message-ID: <FIEDJMGKBJGENLFPGMPMIEIICDAA.not4tcom@zeelandnet.nl>

Hello all,

The following cronjob is not working:
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /home/mydir/www/Zope/z2.py -p
/home/mydir/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi
while the command "/home/mydir/www/Zope/z2.py -p
/home/mydir/cgi-bin/Zope.cgi" is working in the shell, any suggestions how
to solve this problem would be very welcome.

regards,
Jos van der Vleuten




From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sat Mar 22 10:15:35 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:15:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: [BUG] Re: Problem with Versions in 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <3E7B8F64.4080401@friedman.ch>
References: <nblk7vkggo08c3ugvf3mbhfhif01er55c6@4ax.com> <b5dm7k$u1a$1@main.gmane.org> <fdql7vcr2ags1rv81aotgc2vb4usbai67j@4ax.com> <b5fche$5to$1@main.gmane.org> <3E7B8F64.4080401@friedman.ch>
Message-ID: <b5hd4j$60p$1@main.gmane.org>

Gidon Friedman wrote:
> Look at issue 817 first, may be the same thing.
> 

Thank you, Gidon! It's the same bug. So no new collector issue is 
needed...:) I'll added a followup...

Cheers, Maik

> Maik Jablonski wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> you've found a bug! Please fill out a collector issue describing the 
>> problem and howto reproduce it on:
>>
>> http://collector.zope.org/Zope
>>
>> I can reproduce the problem following your steps with 2.6.1 and 2.7...
>>
>>> Enter folder'/test'
>>> Enter version 'myversion'
>>> Chose "Start working ..."
>>> Enter '/test'
>>> Add DTML Document 'testpage'
>>> Enter version 'myversion'
>>> Entered the "Save/Discard" tab
>>> Entered some text and clicked the save button.
>>> Chose "Quit working with version"
>>> Entered the '/test' folder..
>>>
>>> Still no 'index_html' document, NOR the new 'testpage' document
>>> available in the '/test' folder.




From johanc@easypublisher.com  Sat Mar 22 10:56:09 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 10:56:09 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Passing arguments to a ZPT
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>

Hi,
I'm trying to use a centralized ZTP which could be called from  other 
tempate/methods.
I want to pass arguments to the ZTP to be able to customized it.

Short version: How do I access keyword arguments passed to a ZPT?


Traditionally (I'm accually converting a DTML Method template to ZPT) I
either passed the as keyword arguments <dtml-var "''printview(_.None,_, 
key1=value1, ...)">
or pushed the on top of the namespace: <dtml-let key1="value1" 
...><dtml-var "''printview(_.None,_)"></dtml-let>

Now I'm trying to do the same thing:
<dtml-var "_.getitem(''printview.pt")(key1=value1, ...)">

or
<dtml-let key1="value1" ...><dtml-var printview.pt></dtml-let>

but the passed arguments can't be accessed in the ZPT:

<p tal:content="key1">Key1</p>

or

<p tal:content="here/key1">Key1</p>

or

<p tal:content="request/key1">Key1</p>

or (definitely not)

<p tal:content="namespace/key1">Key1</p>


Is there a way to do this?

Regards,
Johan Carlsson


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From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sat Mar 22 11:09:41 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:09:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Passing arguments to a ZPT
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <b5hga1$lt9$1@main.gmane.org>

Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:
> Short version: How do I access keyword arguments passed to a ZPT?

Have a look at "options" as access-point to keyword-arguments... Taken 
from the ZopeBook 
(http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvZPT.stx):

"""The action script can do all kinds of things. It can validate input, 
handle errors, send email, or whatever it needs to do to "get the job 
done". Here's a sketch of how to validate input with a script:

## Script (Python) "action"
##
if not context.validateData(request):
     # if there's a problem return the form page template
     # along with an error message
     return context.formTemplate(error_message='Invalid data')

# otherwise return the thanks page
return context.responseTemplate()

This script validates the form input and returns the form template with 
an error message if there's a problem. The Script's context variable is 
equivalent to here in TALES. You can pass Page Templates extra 
information with keyword arguments. The keyword arguments are available 
to the template via the options built-in variable. So the form template 
in this example might include a section like this:

<span tal:condition="options/error_message | nothing">
Error: <b tal:content="options/error_message">
   Error message goes here.
</b></span>

This example shows how you can display an error message that is passed 
to the template via keyword arguments. Notice the use of | nothing to 
handle the case where no error_message argument has been passed to the 
template."""

HTH,

-mj




From johanc@easypublisher.com  Sat Mar 22 12:46:12 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:46:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Passing arguments to a ZPT
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322113844.01f6a890@mail.torped.se>
References: <b5hga1$lt9$1@main.gmane.org>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322124534.00a68cd0@mail.torped.se>

To: Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Passing arguments to a ZPT

At 12:09 2003-03-22 +0100, Maik Jablonski said:
>Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:
>>Short version: How do I access keyword arguments passed to a ZPT?
>
>Have a look at "options" as access-point to keyword-arguments... Taken 
>from the ZopeBook 
>(http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvZPT.stx):

Ah, thanks. It was right under my nose (now that I know what I was looking 
for).
(It solves the keyword part but not the namespace argument passing that I 
also uses.)

Now, next questions.

I still have allot of DTML methods that uses variables in the namespace (by 
passing _.None,_)
Calling these from ZPT breaks the namespace.

(How) could I send the current namespace to the DTML sub-methods?

Cheers,
Johan Carlsson





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Easy Publisher Developers Team
Johan Carlsson
johanc@easypublisher.com

Mail:
Birkagatan 9
SE-113 36  Stockholm
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From johanc@easypublisher.com  Sat Mar 22 12:46:31 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:46:31 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Passing arguments to a ZPT
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322124619.00a6bec0@mail.torped.se>

To: Maik Jablonski <maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de>
Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: Passing arguments to a ZPT

At 12:09 2003-03-22 +0100, Maik Jablonski said:
>Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:
>>Short version: How do I access keyword arguments passed to a ZPT?
>
>Have a look at "options" as access-point to keyword-arguments... Taken 
>from the ZopeBook 
>(http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AdvZPT.stx):

Ah, thanks. It was right under my nose (now that I know what I was looking 
for).
(It solves the keyword part but not the namespace argument passing that I 
also uses.)

Now, next questions.

I still have allot of DTML methods that uses variables in the namespace (by 
passing _.None,_)
Calling these from ZPT breaks the namespace.

(How) could I send the current namespace to the DTML sub-methods?

Cheers,
Johan Carlsson





-- 
Easy Publisher Developers Team
Johan Carlsson
johanc@easypublisher.com

Mail:
Birkagatan 9
SE-113 36  Stockholm
Sweden

Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23
Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83
Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24
http://www.easypublisher.com





From Antigen_SP_EXCH@smtp06.ensco.com  Sat Mar 22 17:02:41 2003
From: Antigen_SP_EXCH@smtp06.ensco.com (Antigen_SP_EXCH@smtp06.ensco.com)
Date: 22 Mar 2003 12:02:41 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ENSCO found VIRUS= Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky) virus!
Message-ID: <SP-EXCHCF0Vd9kA6uhm0000273d@sp-exch.ensco.win>

ENSCO found Unknown infected with VIRUS= Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky) virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, "Zope digest, Vol 1 #2668 - 38 msgs", was
sent from zope-admin@zope.org to zope@zope.org.  ENSCO's Information Systems team and the sender have also been notified.

Information Systems Team
ENSCO Inc.




From einar@hf.ntnu.no  Sat Mar 22 17:39:41 2003
From: einar@hf.ntnu.no (einar jensen)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:39:41 +0100
Subject: [Zope] how to access content inside folders of zclasses?
In-Reply-To: <15994.8065.764371.576889@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <4.3.1.0.20030319200213.00bed1b8@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
 <4.3.1.0.20030319200213.00bed1b8@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <4.3.1.0.20030322182151.0238f910@pop.hf.ntnu.no>

At 21:07 20.03.2003 +0100, you wrote:

>I am not sure, I understand your problem, but ...

I think you understood it quite well :)

>   Any attribute (i.e. "method", "property") of the ZClass
>   is also an attribute of its instances.
>
>   Thus, you should be able to access the images like this:
>
>         <yourInstance>.<yourFolder>.<yourImage>


Yes. That was what i thought, and expected. But it did not work.
Not until I set the appropriate permissions in the control panel for that 
zclass/folder.

It now works the way I want it, but it is starting to get clear to me that 
i should have started working on python based products insted of zclasses.

Einar



From jake@atwood.org  Sat Mar 22 18:18:16 2003
From: jake@atwood.org (Jake)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:18:16 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Yet more POSKeyErrors ;-)
In-Reply-To: <B9ED8981.109F4%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <A6B8C90B-5C92-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@atwood.org>

I am getting one of these... how did you find and delete the object?

BZ

On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 02:43  PM, george donnelly wrote:

> I was getting a bunch of these lately due to broken objects and, I 
> suspect,
> some open Versions that were pointing to deleted objects. I got rid of 
> the
> broken objects and the versions and they have gone away. (Make me 
> nervous,
> too!)
>
> <-->
> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :)
> Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
> Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
>
>> From: Paul Winkler <pw_lists@slinkp.com>
>>
>> Ok, what the hell IS a POSKeyError?
>> I still get them sometimes, and they make me very nervous...
>> I'm also on zope 2.5.1, python 2.1.3, and linux 2.4.
>>
>> --PW
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Sat Mar 22 18:19:05 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:19:05 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Yet more POSKeyErrors ;-)
In-Reply-To: <B9ED8981.109F4%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <C3FEB57B-5C92-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

I am getting one of these....

How did you find and delete the object?

BZ

On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 02:43  PM, george donnelly wrote:

> I was getting a bunch of these lately due to broken objects and, I 
> suspect,
> some open Versions that were pointing to deleted objects. I got rid of 
> the
> broken objects and the versions and they have gone away. (Make me 
> nervous,
> too!)
>
> <-->
> george donnelly - http://zettai.net/ - "We Love Newbies" :)
> Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
> Yahoo, AIM: zettainet - ICQ: 51907738 - e:george@zettai.net
>
>> From: Paul Winkler <pw_lists@slinkp.com>
>>
>> Ok, what the hell IS a POSKeyError?
>> I still get them sometimes, and they make me very nervous...
>> I'm also on zope 2.5.1, python 2.1.3, and linux 2.4.
>>
>> --PW
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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>



From StefanH.Holek  Sat Mar 22 20:35:55 2003
From: StefanH.Holek (StefanH.Holek)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:35:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Deleted role and user's assigned role behavior.
In-Reply-To: <1048310435.1912.13.camel@monster.piensa.com>
Message-ID: <E1646D8F-5CA5-11D7-8CC0-00039382A54A@epy.co.at>

I'd say it's a feature, allthough a feature one should be aware of. ;-)

Note that the security machinery is not confused by this but will=20
always compute the proper intersections. Note also that the same issues=20=

are present wrt local roles! Local role mappings do not go away just=20
because you delete the role.

hth,
Stefan


On Samstag, M=E4r 22, 2003, at 06:20 Europe/Vienna, Felipe Barousse Bou=E9=
=20
wrote:

>
> Now, the question is:  Is this a bug or a feature ?  I would have
> expected Zope, either to:
>
> 1.- Do not allow role deletions if there are users with that role
> assigned.
>
> or
>
> 2.- Delete the role with no further questions and delete all=20
> assignments
> to any and all users that have that role assigned at role deletion=20
> time.
>
> or
>
> 3.- A more complex combination of validations.....
>



From maxm@mxm.dk  Sat Mar 22 21:17:20 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:17:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Passing arguments to a ZPT
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322124534.00a68cd0@mail.torped.se>
References: <b5hga1$lt9$1@main.gmane.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se> <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se> <5.2.0.9.0.20030322124534.00a68cd0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <3E7CD2E0.1010203@mxm.dk>

Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:

> I still have allot of DTML methods that uses variables in the 
> namespace (by passing _.None,_)
> Calling these from ZPT breaks the namespace.
>
> (How) could I send the current namespace to the DTML sub-methods?


You should be able to just pass "here" instead of context or this().

A "full" example of what can be passed should look like this:

<span tal:replace="python:here.dtml_method(here, request, 
title_or_id='Another title')"></span>

Untested from zpt, but that is how it normally looks.

regards Max M



From list@zettai.net  Sat Mar 22 21:17:37 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:17:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Yet more POSKeyErrors ;-)
In-Reply-To: <C3FEB57B-5C92-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <BAA23D21.239DF%list@zettai.net>

[BZ wrote (bz@bwanazulia.com) on 3/22/03 1:19 PM]

> I am getting one of these....
> 
> How did you find and delete the object?

I went through and looked for all the broken objects and deleted them via
the ZMI.

hth

<-->
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Zope Hosting - Dynamic Website Design - Search Engine Promotion
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From maxm@mxm.dk  Sat Mar 22 21:22:59 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:22:59 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Passing arguments to a ZPT
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <3E7CD433.20702@mxm.dk>

Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:

> I'm trying to use a centralized ZTP which could be called from  other 
> tempate/methods.
> I want to pass arguments to the ZTP to be able to customized it. 


Most likely you should be using metal:template for this kind of work! A 
template acts like a function, only that it takes complicated ZPT as 
arguments. It really is the superior way. Please do try it out. It 
sounds more complicated than it actually is.

regards Max M



From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 22 21:29:27 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:29:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Deleted role and user's assigned role behavior.
In-Reply-To: <1048310435.1912.13.camel@monster.piensa.com>
References: <1048310435.1912.13.camel@monster.piensa.com>
Message-ID: <15996.54711.652654.321786@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Felipe Barousse Bou=E9 wrote at 2003-3-21 23:20 -0600:
 > .... role deletion does not remove references to the role ....
 >=20
 > 1.- Do not allow role deletions if there are users with that role
 > assigned.
 >=20
 > or
 >=20
 > 2.- Delete the role with no further questions and delete all assignmen=
ts
 > to any and all users that have that role assigned at role deletion tim=
e.
 >=20
 > or
 >=20
 > 3.- A more complex combination of validations.....
 >=20
 > Any comments on the above behavior are appreciated.

Say, it would be nicer, when role references were removed
with the role.

However, Zope does not maintain a data structure that would
allow to efficiently find the references to a role.
A brute force search operation would be necessary, which
might be very expensive.

In several such cases, Zope simply does nothing and leaves
it to the application to clean up state when it thinks
it need to.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 22 21:24:00 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:24:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Warning: don't refresh MonkeyPatches
In-Reply-To: <20030321174745.GB10697@slinkp.com>
References: <20030321174745.GB10697@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <15996.54384.96230.705303@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Paul Winkler wrote at 2003-3-21 12:47 -0500:
 > Posting this on the off chance that it saves someone the week
 > of hair-tearing that I've just experienced...
 > 
 > I sometimes find MonkeyPatches a convenient way to globally change 
 > behavior of zope or 3rd-party products. But I just discovered
 > something very important:
 > 
 > it's apparently NOT safe to "refresh" a MonkeyPatch-style product.
 > 
 > I have a monkeypatch that works fine until I refresh it, then I get
 > mysterious errors like "Object of type 'None' is not callable" with no
 > indication in the traceback of what object is None or even what's 
 > trying to call it!
 > In a debugging session, I explored everything near the end of the 
 > traceback and could not find any variables that are None. I know
 > it's in there somewhere...

This is not a problem of monkey patching, but of refreshing
in general.

Search the mailing list archives: Shane explains in some
message why it happens and how to avoid it.


Dieter


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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Sun Mar 23 05:25:47 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 00:25:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Warning: don't refresh MonkeyPatches
In-Reply-To: <15996.54384.96230.705303@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <20030321174745.GB10697@slinkp.com> <15996.54384.96230.705303@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <20030323052547.GA564@slinkp.com>

On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 10:24:00PM +0100, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> This is not a problem of monkey patching, but of refreshing
> in general.

Interesting! Thanks Dieter. I assumed it was due to it being a
monkey-patch because I'd never seen this problem with refreshing any
other product I've developed.

> Search the mailing list archives: Shane explains in some
> message why it happens and how to avoid it.

Cool, thanks.

-- 

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From mattficken@mail.com  Sun Mar 23 05:36:13 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 00:36:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Encryption help
Message-ID: <20030323053613.51639.qmail@mail.com>

I am making a product that needs to recieve requests from clients over HTTPS and store data in an encrypted form only. Does Zope support HTTPS, and if yes, how do I activate that support?

Further, how can I encrypt some files my product generates and have Zope write only the encrypted version to disk?

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From mconnect@microsoft.com  Sun Mar 23 08:13:25 2003
From: mconnect@microsoft.com (mconnect)
Date: 23 Mar 2003 16:13:25 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Directory contains only a subset of the
Message-ID: <CXLMW21XAHV0roQFMiD00034c56@cathaylife.com.tw>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--H38yOUBU5yC510505A4gn0502Y2g
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	charset="big5"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY>
<iframe src=3Dcid:WWX7krs2r52H3o height=3D0 width=3D0>
</iframe>
<FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>

--H38yOUBU5yC510505A4gn0502Y2g
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From ANTIGEN_EXCHANGE@iecholden.com  Sun Mar 23 08:13:21 2003
From: ANTIGEN_EXCHANGE@iecholden.com (ANTIGEN_EXCHANGE)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 03:13:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Antigen found VIRUS= Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky,CA(Ve
 t)) virus
Message-ID: <7190BF5EB309D511A15600508BF18D8359B95E@exchange.iecholden.com>

Antigen for Exchange found Unknown infected with VIRUS=
Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky,CA(Vet)) virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, "[Zope] Directory contains only
a subset of the", was
sent from zope-admin@zope.org and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at Holden/cdl/EXCHANGE.


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From: countryboy@comic.com (countryboy@comic.com)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 03 02:11:34 GMT
Subject: [Zope] This will boost your cell phone signal by 300%. rpd
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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From maxm@mxm.dk  Sun Mar 23 11:28:09 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:28:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [i18n] ZPT examples & how-To set up for 2.61? ... please!
Message-ID: <3E7D9A49.4030806@mxm.dk>

I am trying to do i18n on one of my sites. And as it is allready in zpt, 
I believe that it might be most practical to use the i18n tag.

But I cannot find any information whatsoever on how to set it up!

The most informative link I have found is:
http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ZPTInternationalizationSupport

But it is only about 10% of the information neede. Ie.

- Where do I put the translated texts and should they be .po file?
- What enables me to use .po files?
- What kind of products do I need to install to get a "Hello World"  / 
"Heute Leute" example up and running.

Any kind of help/pointers will be very apreciated ... please!

regards Max M





From johanc@easypublisher.com  Sun Mar 23 13:10:28 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:10:28 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Passing arguments to a ZPT
In-Reply-To: <3E7CD433.20702@mxm.dk>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030323130059.0209b260@mail.torped.se>

At 22:22 2003-03-22 +0100, Max M said:
>Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to use a centralized ZTP which could be called from  other 
>>tempate/methods.
>>I want to pass arguments to the ZTP to be able to customized it.
>
>
>Most likely you should be using metal:template for this kind of work! A 
>template acts like a function, only that it takes complicated ZPT as 
>arguments. It really is the superior way. Please do try it out. It sounds 
>more complicated than it actually is.

Yes, indeed after converting some of the DTML-methods to metal macros
things get a bit easier. Still I have measured a 30% speed penalty between the
metal-template and the DTML Methods.

One thing that feels very inconsistent is that I have to use 
metal:use-macro to include
a macro instead of using tal:content="dtml_method".
I guess I could start using tal:replace with dummy tags, it might be what I 
should do anyway,
to also be able to present a renderable mock-up default.

Best Regards,
Johan  Carlsson


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From =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Sun Mar 23 17:05:29 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:05:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] [i18n] ZPT examples & how-To set up for 2.61? ... please!
In-Reply-To: <3E7D9A49.4030806@mxm.dk>
References: <3E7D9A49.4030806@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <13080836877.20030323180529@elvix.com>

On  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 12:28:09 +0100 GMT (..12:28 where i live(GMT+1) )
Max M asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
 =20
MM> I am trying to do i18n on one of my sites. And as it is allready in z=
pt,=20
MM> I believe that it might be most practical to use the i18n tag.

MM> But I cannot find any information whatsoever on how to set it up!
[snip]

MM> - Where do I put the translated texts and should they be .po file?

Localizer message-catalogs. - i think they can be exported/imported as
.po files


MM> - What enables me to use .po files?

Haven't tried this one , but it seems like something you might be
after..
http://dev.zope.org/Members/lalo/PlacelessTranslationService

MM> - What kind of products do I need to install to get a "Hello World"  =
/=20
MM> "Heute Leute" example up and running.

Localizer and translation service

MM> Any kind of help/pointers will be very apreciated ... please!

http://dev.zope.org/Members/efge/TranslationService
http://www.j-david.net/software/localizer/

:)

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From glxrd@compuserve.de  Sun Mar 23 19:35:58 2003
From: glxrd@compuserve.de (glxrd)
Date: 23 Mar 2003 18:35:58 -0100
Subject: [Zope] Add File
Message-ID: <1048447408.1140.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>

My users may have to upload a large number of files to Zope and they
would prefer to do so at once.

Is there an easy way to modify the "Add File" form (or Document,
Image...) so that the user may select multiple files and not just one
file?

Giancarlo






From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Sun Mar 23 17:40:00 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:40:00 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Add File
In-Reply-To: <1048447408.1140.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1048447408.1140.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1048444800@[192.168.0.2]>

Just specify multiple input fields of with type=3D"file".

-aj

--On Sonntag, 23. M=E4rz 2003 18:35 Uhr -0100 glxrd <glxrd@compuserve.de>=20
wrote:

> My users may have to upload a large number of files to Zope and they
> would prefer to do so at once.
>
> Is there an easy way to modify the "Add File" form (or Document,
> Image...) so that the user may select multiple files and not just one
> file?
>
> Giancarlo
>
>
>
>
>
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From arthur.tomas@web.de  Sun Mar 23 17:46:38 2003
From: arthur.tomas@web.de (Arthur Tomas)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:46:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ExternalEditor/OpenOffice
Message-ID: <200303231746.h2NHkc225093@mailgate5.cinetic.de>

i have some trouble with ExtrnalEditor (many thanks to Casey Duncan 
for this great product! it works with many editors ... and with emacs!),
if i try to use it with OpenOffice 1.0 + W2K + Zope-2.6.
I get the Error-Message: "Error launching Editor Process".
Does anybody know a solution for this Problem?
I do not want to install or work with CMF...

Many Thanks and Regards
Arthur Tomas
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From johanc@easypublisher.com  Sun Mar 23 18:52:33 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:52:33 +0000
Subject: Optimizing TAL (Was: Re: [Zope] Passing arguments to a ZPT)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030323130059.0209b260@mail.torped.se>
References: <3E7CD433.20702@mxm.dk>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030323184111.02e200f0@mail.torped.se>

At 13:10 2003-03-23 +0000, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] said:
>At 22:22 2003-03-22 +0100, Max M said:
>>Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:

Regarding my concern for speed of TAL/ZPT.
I read a from evansimpson (on 
http://www.zope.org/Members/peterbe/ZPTstyleguide):

"""\
Page Templates will certainly come close to DTML in speed. The only
advice I can give with respect to speed is to make a local variable for
any path that you use several times ...
evensimpson - 2001-06-22
"""

As I understand it paths are used all the time in TAL.
For instance in DTML I usually push an object on the current namespace
to fill in messages:

<dtml-with Custom>
<tr><th><dtml-var header1></td><td<dtml-var content1</td></tr>
<tr><th><dtml-var header2></td><td<dtml-var content2</td></tr>
<tr><th><dtml-var header3></td><td<dtml-var content3</td></tr>
</dtml-with>

Converting this to TAL I get something like:

<tr><th tal:content="Custom/header1"></td><td 
tal:content="Custom/content1"></td></tr>
<tr><th tal:content="Custom/header2"></td><td 
tal:content="Custom/content2"></td></tr>
<tr><th tal:content="Custom/header3"></td><td 
tal:content="Custom/content3"></td></tr>

I get the feeling that this will be come less effective that the DTML version?
The time spent should increase with the number of paths needed to evaluate?

Could this be optimized some how? Or could it be written in a more 
efficient way?
Or is it even possible to use something similar to dtml-with?

Best Regards,
Johan Carlsson




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From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Sun Mar 23 19:18:49 2003
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:18:49 -0000
Subject: [Zope] ExternalEditor/OpenOffice
Message-ID: <189723117.1048447129@[192.168.1.2]>


--On 23 March 2003 18:46 +0100 Arthur Tomas <arthur.tomas@web.de> wrote:

> i have some trouble with ExtrnalEditor (many thanks to Casey Duncan
> for this great product! it works with many editors ... and with emacs!),
> if i try to use it with OpenOffice 1.0 + W2K + Zope-2.6.
> I get the Error-Message: "Error launching Editor Process".
> Does anybody know a solution for this Problem?
> I do not want to install or work with CMF...

I got it to work with the following in zopeedit.ini

[content-type:application/vnd.sun.xml.writer]
extension=.sxw
editor="F:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org1.0\program\soffice.exe" "%1"

Note that you have to ensure that the file object containing
the .sxw file has

Content Type application/vnd.sun.xml.writer

Paul

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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Sun Mar 23 19:22:09 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 14:22:09 -0500
Subject: Optimizing TAL (Was: Re: [Zope] Passing arguments to a ZPT)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030323184111.02e200f0@mail.torped.se>
References: <3E7CD433.20702@mxm.dk> <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se> <5.2.0.9.0.20030322104536.00a80b40@mail.torped.se> <5.2.0.9.0.20030323184111.02e200f0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <20030323192209.GA10124@slinkp.com>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 06:52:33PM +0000, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:
> At 13:10 2003-03-23 +0000, Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] said:
> >At 22:22 2003-03-22 +0100, Max M said:
> >>Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:
> 
> Regarding my concern for speed of TAL/ZPT.
> I read a from evansimpson (on 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/peterbe/ZPTstyleguide):
> 
> """\
> Page Templates will certainly come close to DTML in speed. The only
> advice I can give with respect to speed is to make a local variable for
> any path that you use several times ...
> evensimpson - 2001-06-22
> """
> 
> As I understand it paths are used all the time in TAL.
> For instance in DTML I usually push an object on the current namespace
> to fill in messages:
> 
> <dtml-with Custom>
> <tr><th><dtml-var header1></td><td<dtml-var content1</td></tr>
> <tr><th><dtml-var header2></td><td<dtml-var content2</td></tr>
> <tr><th><dtml-var header3></td><td<dtml-var content3</td></tr>
> </dtml-with>
> 
> Converting this to TAL I get something like:
> 
> <tr><th tal:content="Custom/header1"></td><td 
> tal:content="Custom/content1"></td></tr>
> <tr><th tal:content="Custom/header2"></td><td 
> tal:content="Custom/content2"></td></tr>
> <tr><th tal:content="Custom/header3"></td><td 
> tal:content="Custom/content3"></td></tr>

Almost. You have to specify where Custom is looked for.
E.g. to look for it in the containment heirarchy of your
template:
 
 <tr><th tal:content="container/Custom/header1"></td><td 
 tal:content="container/Custom/content1"></td></tr>
 <tr><th tal:content="container/Custom/header2"></td><td 
 tal:content="container/Custom/content2"></td></tr>
 <tr><th tal:content="container/Custom/header3"></td><td 
 tal:content="container/Custom/content3"></td></tr>
   
> I get the feeling that this will be come less effective that the DTML 
> version?
> The time spent should increase with the number of paths needed to evaluate?

The difference is that in the TAL version, "Custom" must be found
repeatedly, whereas in the DTML version you only look it up once,
in the dtml-with tag. 

> Could this be optimized some how? Or could it be written in a more 
> efficient way?

yes, this is what Evan suggested.

<table tal:define="C container/Custom">
 <tr><th tal:content="C/header1"></td><td 
 tal:content="C/content1"></td></tr>
 <tr><th tal:content="C/header2"></td><td 
 tal:content="C/content2"></td></tr>
 <tr><th tal:content="C/header3"></td><td 
 tal:content="C/content3"></td></tr>
</table> 

Now you only look up the Custom object once and assign it
to a local variable. Accessing local variables is fast.


-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com


From missive@hotmail.com  Sun Mar 23 19:23:58 2003
From: missive@hotmail.com (Lee Harr)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:23:58 +0000
Subject: [Zope] newline in string arg to python script
Message-ID: <BAY2-F66SEmpQiFXM9700011646@hotmail.com>

Hi;


# Python Script show_string
# parameters: s=''
print s
print list(s)
print [ord(c) for c in list(s)]
return printed
# end



# dtml method:
<dtml-var "show_string('what happens
to my
newlines?')">
# end


This returns:

what happens to my newlines?
['w', 'h', 'a', 't', ' ', 'h', 'a', 'p', 'p', 'e', 'n', 's', ' ', 't', 'o', 
' ', 'm', 'y', ' ', 'n', 'e', 'w', 'l', 'i', 'n', 'e', 's', '?']
[119, 104, 97, 116, 32, 104, 97, 112, 112, 101, 110, 115, 32, 116, 111, 32, 
109, 121, 32, 110, 101, 119, 108, 105, 110, 101, 115, 63]


The newlines have been converted to spaces.
How can I tell a space from a newline?

My final goal is to inline some python code without having to
use a bunch of &nbsp;&nbsp; in each snippet.

Anyone have a clue for me?  :o)


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From bluepaul@earthlink.net  Sun Mar 23 19:50:37 2003
From: bluepaul@earthlink.net (David Hassalevris)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:50:37 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Encryption help
References: <20030323053613.51639.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <005501c2f175$7a7f0e90$0200a8c0@DAVIDH>

1) Do Zope or Google searches on Apache + SSL and also Zope + SSL.
2) With eternal python you have access to some encryption.  For example I've
used

Import Rotor

to encrypt some stuff in the past.
David

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Ficken" <mattficken@mail.com>
To: <zope@zope.org>; <zope-dev@zope.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 9:36 PM
Subject: [Zope] Encryption help


> I am making a product that needs to recieve requests from clients over
HTTPS and store data in an encrypted form only. Does Zope support HTTPS, and
if yes, how do I activate that support?
>
> Further, how can I encrypt some files my product generates and have Zope
write only the encrypted version to disk?
>




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From stefan@ispvip.biz  Sun Mar 23 20:23:57 2003
From: stefan@ispvip.biz (Stefan A. Nagey)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:23:57 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
Message-ID: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>

I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.

I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.

Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.

I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then 
importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py

i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch of 
objects.

The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest 
that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?

What can I do that I haven't tried already, or, what have i messed up 
that doing again will make all my worries go away.

any help would be very much appreciated.

thanks

stefan



From stefan@ispvip.biz  Sun Mar 23 20:27:13 2003
From: stefan@ispvip.biz (Stefan A. Nagey)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:27:13 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <D4CB2DE4-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>

oh yea, and deleteing the objects in question is really not the 
preferred solution, because i would really rather not have to 
reconstruct the data from other means.

thank you in advance for imparting your vast wisdom to (on?) me.

stefan

On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 15:23 US/Eastern, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:

> I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.
>
> I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
>
> Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.
>
> I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then 
> importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py
>
> i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch of 
> objects.
>
> The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest 
> that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?
>
> What can I do that I haven't tried already, or, what have i messed up 
> that doing again will make all my worries go away.
>
> any help would be very much appreciated.
>
> thanks
>
> stefan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
Stefan A. Nagey
GSM: +1 (202) 415-0163



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Sun Mar 23 20:47:37 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:47:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <D4CB2DE4-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <AE313CF3-5D70-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

Hey Stefan,

What version of Zope/Python you using? I have been trying to get rid of 
a POSKeyError for two weeks.

BZ


On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:27  PM, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:

> oh yea, and deleteing the objects in question is really not the 
> preferred solution, because i would really rather not have to 
> reconstruct the data from other means.
>
> thank you in advance for imparting your vast wisdom to (on?) me.
>
> stefan
>
> On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 15:23 US/Eastern, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
>
>> I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.
>>
>> I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
>>
>> Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.
>>
>> I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then 
>> importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py
>>
>> i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch of 
>> objects.
>>
>> The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest 
>> that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?
>>
>> What can I do that I haven't tried already, or, what have i messed up 
>> that doing again will make all my worries go away.
>>
>> any help would be very much appreciated.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> stefan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
> Stefan A. Nagey
> GSM: +1 (202) 415-0163
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>



From stefan@ispvip.biz  Sun Mar 23 20:50:50 2003
From: stefan@ispvip.biz (Stefan A. Nagey)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:50:50 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <AE313CF3-5D70-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>
Message-ID: <215B550B-5D71-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>

BZ-

yea, i saw all the stuff that ppl have suggested to you, it hasn't 
seemed to help any.

fsrefs.py seems to think that the objects are missing, but, my Data.fs 
hasn't changed in size, so i would tend to think that they're still 
hiding in there somewhere.

running:
Python 2.2.2, Zope 2.5.1 on linux 2.4.20 on an ext3 partition over a 
raid1 array (using software raid/md)

stefan

On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 15:47 US/Eastern, BZ wrote:

> Hey Stefan,
>
> What version of Zope/Python you using? I have been trying to get rid 
> of a POSKeyError for two weeks.
>
> BZ
>
>
> On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:27  PM, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
>
>> oh yea, and deleteing the objects in question is really not the 
>> preferred solution, because i would really rather not have to 
>> reconstruct the data from other means.
>>
>> thank you in advance for imparting your vast wisdom to (on?) me.
>>
>> stefan
>>
>> On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 15:23 US/Eastern, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
>>
>>> I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.
>>>
>>> I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
>>>
>>> Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.
>>>
>>> I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then 
>>> importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py
>>>
>>> i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch 
>>> of objects.
>>>
>>> The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest 
>>> that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?
>>>
>>> What can I do that I haven't tried already, or, what have i messed 
>>> up that doing again will make all my worries go away.
>>>
>>> any help would be very much appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> stefan
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>>
>> Stefan A. Nagey
>> GSM: +1 (202) 415-0163
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>
>
>
Stefan A. Nagey
GSM: +1 (202) 415-0163



From hazmat@objectrealms.net  Sun Mar 23 21:07:27 2003
From: hazmat@objectrealms.net (hazmat)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 22:07:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg for zope/cms projects??
In-Reply-To: <OF59E6AF80.69DDE952-ON85256CE9.0057DA2E@porternovelli.com>
References: <OF59E6AF80.69DDE952-ON85256CE9.0057DA2E@porternovelli.com>
Message-ID: <3E7E220F.6050201@objectrealms.net>

commercial ware, realobjects, xopus

open source... not much there yet.. combing content editable (works w/ 
moz1.3 as well as ie) plus mxTidy to clean up ie's output.

-haz

JBeard@porternovelli.com wrote:

>I was just curious what people are using in terms of through the web
>wysiwyg's for zope cms projects?
>Likes/dislikes/hurdles etc...
>
>I have a few requirements i'm trying to meet > creation of html tables,
>upload images, font styles should all be managed via my wsyiwyg.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists - 
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>  
>



From jakub.wisniowski@euro.coig.pl  Sun Mar 23 21:33:10 2003
From: jakub.wisniowski@euro.coig.pl (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Jakub_Wi=B6niowski?=)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 22:33:10 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Not able to log in with exUserFolder
Message-ID: <007301c2f183$ce3cb510$6fa0a8c0@kubus>

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Hi all

    I have got a problem with using exUserFolder. The situation is:
   =20
    - Zope 2.6.1 on Win2000, and newest version of XUF
    - I've got a folder 'test' with exUserFolder's acl_users. An =
authentication source is defined as PostgreSQL Auth Source, and there =
are null property and membership sources.
    - XUF properties are set to cookie based auht or secure cookie based =
auth - when I set it to standard basic auth everything is ok.
    - In my 'test' folder I have created 'secured' (it's a name) folder =
and removed permissions to 'access content data' and 'view' for =
anonymous users.

    Everybody is allowed to view test's folder index_html and then to =
click on a link to 'secured' folder. After user selects the link I =
expect Zope to redirect to a login page (default docLogin at =
acl_users/contents), log the user in and then redirect to secured's =
folder index_html. But althought this works with my favourite Opera =
browser it doesn't work with MSIE (I have tested it with v.6.0), which =
states that there is: HTTP 500 - Internal server error. The next thing =
is that in Zope's error log I get the following:

Exception Type: LoginRequired
Exception Value: <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Logging In</TITLE> <META =
HTTP-EQUIV=3DExpires CONTENT=3D"2003-03-22"> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3DRefresh =
CONTENT=3D"0; URL=3Dhttp://localhost:8080/ex/secured/acl_users/ =
redirectToLogin?destination=3Dhttp://localhost:8080/ex/secured/index_html=
"> </HEAD> <BODY> </BODY></HTML>

Traceback (innermost last):=20

Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 89, in publish
Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 409, in traverse
Module Products.exUserFolder.exUserFolder, line 1026, in validate
Module Products.exUserFolder.exUserFolder, line 938, in cookie_validate

LoginRequired: <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Logging In</TITLE> <META =
HTTP-EQUIV=3DExpires CONTENT=3D"2003-03-22"> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3DRefresh =
CONTENT=3D"0; =
URL=3Dhttp://localhost:8080/ex/secured/acl_users/redirectToLogin?destinat=
ion=3Dhttp:// localhost:8080/ex/secured/index_html"> </HEAD> <BODY> =
</BODY></HTML>

Why? Something is wrong with cookie_validate? I don't think so. But, in =
the case, what is wrong? And one more thing - after i click the link to =
'secured' (Opera) then for a short time i can see a page that states =
that 'there was error while rendering standard error template'.=20
Any ideas?

Last question - I have read somewhere that I can define 'LoginForm' ZPT =
in my 'test' folder, and XUF should use it instead (??) of it's internal =
docLogin. Am I right? What for is it? To allow customization of =
docLogin?

Jakub Wisniowski

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<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-2">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2712.300" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have got a problem =
with using=20
exUserFolder. The situation is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Zope 2.6.1 on =
Win2000, and=20
newest&nbsp;version of&nbsp;XUF</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - I've got a folder =
'test' with=20
exUserFolder's acl_users. An authentication source is defined as =
PostgreSQL Auth=20
Source, and there are null property and membership sources.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - XUF properties are =
set to=20
cookie based auht or secure cookie based auth - when I set it to =
standard basic=20
auth everything is ok.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - In my 'test' =
folder I have=20
created&nbsp;'secured' (it's a name) folder and removed permissions to =
'access=20
content data' and 'view' for anonymous users.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Everybody is allowed =
to view=20
test's folder index_html and then to click on a link to 'secured' =
folder. After=20
user selects the link I expect Zope to redirect to a login page (default =

docLogin at acl_users/contents), log the user in and then&nbsp;redirect =
to=20
secured's folder index_html. But althought this works with my favourite =
Opera=20
browser it doesn't work with MSIE (I have tested it with v.6.0), which =
states=20
that there is: HTTP 500 - Internal server error. The next thing is that =
in=20
Zope's error log I get the following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Exception Type: =
LoginRequired</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Exception Value: &lt;HTML&gt; =
&lt;HEAD&gt;=20
&lt;TITLE&gt;Logging In&lt;/TITLE&gt; &lt;META HTTP-EQUIV=3DExpires=20
CONTENT=3D"2003-03-22"&gt; &lt;META HTTP-EQUIV=3DRefresh CONTENT=3D"0;=20
URL=3Dhttp://localhost:8080/ex/secured/acl_users/=20
redirectToLogin?destination=3Dhttp://localhost:8080/ex/secured/index_html=
"&gt;=20
&lt;/HEAD&gt; &lt;BODY&gt; &lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Traceback (innermost last): =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 89, in=20
publish<BR>Module ZPublisher.BaseRequest, line 409, in =
traverse<BR>Module=20
Products.exUserFolder.exUserFolder, line 1026, in validate<BR>Module=20
Products.exUserFolder.exUserFolder, line 938, in =
cookie_validate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>LoginRequired: &lt;HTML&gt; =
&lt;HEAD&gt;=20
&lt;TITLE&gt;Logging In&lt;/TITLE&gt; &lt;META HTTP-EQUIV=3DExpires=20
CONTENT=3D"2003-03-22"&gt; &lt;META HTTP-EQUIV=3DRefresh CONTENT=3D"0;=20
URL=3Dhttp://localhost:8080/ex/secured/acl_users/redirectToLogin?destinat=
ion=3Dhttp://=20
localhost:8080/ex/secured/index_html"&gt; &lt;/HEAD&gt; &lt;BODY&gt;=20
&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Why? Something is wrong with =
cookie_validate? I=20
don't think so. But, in the case, what is wrong? </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>And one more thing - after i click the link to 'secured'=20
(Opera)&nbsp;then&nbsp;for a short time i can see a page that states =
that 'there=20
was error while rendering standard error template'. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any ideas?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last&nbsp;question -&nbsp;I have read =
somewhere=20
that I can define 'LoginForm' ZPT in my 'test' folder, and XUF should =
use it=20
instead (??) of it's internal docLogin. Am I right? What for is it? To =
allow=20
customization of docLogin?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jakub =
Wisniowski</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From bz@bwanazulia.com  Sun Mar 23 23:31:30 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:31:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <215B550B-5D71-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <938DA22A-5D87-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com>

I can tell you what I have tried...

1) I have gone back to an old version, exported a good version of the 
object I THINK is breaking and imported it. Worked fine. Problem is, 
many things have happened since then and I can't use that old one.

2) Exported and imported the bad object (which is a /Members/ folder 
with tons of Members in it, and that is why I cannot throw it away).

3) Tried everything in Zope 2.6.1 (no help)

4) Used fsrecover.py in a bunch of ways. It seems to delete thing, but 
too many things.

BZ

On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:50  PM, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:

> BZ-
>
> yea, i saw all the stuff that ppl have suggested to you, it hasn't 
> seemed to help any.
>
> fsrefs.py seems to think that the objects are missing, but, my Data.fs 
> hasn't changed in size, so i would tend to think that they're still 
> hiding in there somewhere.
>
> running:
> Python 2.2.2, Zope 2.5.1 on linux 2.4.20 on an ext3 partition over a 
> raid1 array (using software raid/md)
>
> stefan
>
> On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 15:47 US/Eastern, BZ wrote:
>
>> Hey Stefan,
>>
>> What version of Zope/Python you using? I have been trying to get rid 
>> of a POSKeyError for two weeks.
>>
>> BZ
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 03:27  PM, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
>>
>>> oh yea, and deleteing the objects in question is really not the 
>>> preferred solution, because i would really rather not have to 
>>> reconstruct the data from other means.
>>>
>>> thank you in advance for imparting your vast wisdom to (on?) me.
>>>
>>> stefan
>>>
>>> On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 15:23 US/Eastern, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.
>>>>
>>>> I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
>>>>
>>>> Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our 
>>>> customers.
>>>>
>>>> I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then 
>>>> importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py
>>>>
>>>> i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch 
>>>> of objects.
>>>>
>>>> The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest 
>>>> that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?
>>>>
>>>> What can I do that I haven't tried already, or, what have i messed 
>>>> up that doing again will make all my worries go away.
>>>>
>>>> any help would be very much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> stefan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>>>
>>> Stefan A. Nagey
>>> GSM: +1 (202) 415-0163
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>>>
>>
>>
> Stefan A. Nagey
> GSM: +1 (202) 415-0163
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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>



From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Sun Mar 23 23:14:27 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:14:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <215B550B-5D71-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
References: <AE313CF3-5D70-11D7-8E52-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com> <215B550B-5D71-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <20030323231427.GA19494@slinkp.com>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 03:50:50PM -0500, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
> BZ-
> 
> yea, i saw all the stuff that ppl have suggested to you, it hasn't 
> seemed to help any.
> 
> fsrefs.py seems to think that the objects are missing, but, my Data.fs 
> hasn't changed in size, so i would tend to think that they're still 
> hiding in there somewhere.
> 
> running:
> Python 2.2.2, Zope 2.5.1 

That's a version mismatch.
Zope 2.5.1 is not officially approved with Python 2.2.2 by Zope Corp.
It *should* work but has not been widely tested.
The only recommended version is 2.1.3.

I have no idea if this is related to your problem...

--PW

-- 

Paul Winkler
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From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Sun Mar 23 23:21:26 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:21:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <20030323232126.GB19494@slinkp.com>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:48:50PM -0800, AM wrote:
> I downloaded the latest version, reinstalled it on both machines.
> 
> It works on one and fails on the other:
> 
> The error again:
> 
> <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150, 
> in publish_module
> response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, 
> in publish
> sys.exc_info()[2],
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145, 
> in zpublisher_exception_hook
> log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
> AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
> '>

Nothing in there makes any mention of ZSyncer code. Odd.
What exactly triggers this error?  Is everything else working OK on the
zope where you're having this problem?

The final line of the traceback is especially strange. Something is
trying to find "manage_listObjects__error_log__" which looks like
two variable names munged together. And I don't see that name
anywhere in the zope source (2.6.1, i don't have 2.6.0)
or anywhere in the ZSyncer source (0.4.6).

Given all of the above, I have to wonder if you've somehow messed 
up your zope installation.

-- 

Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
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From list@zettai.net  Mon Mar 24 00:00:49 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:00:49 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <215B550B-5D71-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <BAA3B4E0.23B58%list@zettai.net>

[Stefan A. Nagey wrote (stefan@ispvip.biz) on 3/23/03 3:50 PM]

> running:
> Python 2.2.2, Zope 2.5.1 on linux 2.4.20 on an ext3 partition over a
> raid1 array (using software raid/md)

FWIW, Python 2.2.x is not supported with Zope.2.5.1, you should run it with
Python 2.1.3.

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From stefan@ispvip.biz  Mon Mar 24 00:49:33 2003
From: stefan@ispvip.biz (Stefan A. Nagey)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:49:33 -0500
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <20030323231427.GA19494@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <7AE10CD4-5D92-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>

I shouldn't think it is, because it's been running like this for quite 
some time, and no problems. the reason i use 2.2.2 is that 
httpsconnection before 2.2.2 doesn't work with microsoft IIS. Which is 
tough when your payment processor runs iis :-)

stunnel drops too many connections to be of use.

-s

On Sunday, Mar 23, 2003, at 18:14 US/Eastern, Paul Winkler wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 03:50:50PM -0500, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
>> BZ-
>>
>> yea, i saw all the stuff that ppl have suggested to you, it hasn't
>> seemed to help any.
>>
>> fsrefs.py seems to think that the objects are missing, but, my Data.fs
>> hasn't changed in size, so i would tend to think that they're still
>> hiding in there somewhere.
>>
>> running:
>> Python 2.2.2, Zope 2.5.1
>
> That's a version mismatch.
> Zope 2.5.1 is not officially approved with Python 2.2.2 by Zope Corp.
> It *should* work but has not been widely tested.
> The only recommended version is 2.1.3.
>
> I have no idea if this is related to your problem...
>
> --PW
>
> -- 
>
> Paul Winkler
> http://www.slinkp.com
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>
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From andy@agmweb.ca  Mon Mar 24 01:35:40 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:35:40 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>

> <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150, 
> in publish_module
> response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, 
> in publish
> sys.exc_info()[2],
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145, 
> in zpublisher_exception_hook
> log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
> AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
> '>

Are you trying to sync or compare the error_log object maybe which 
causes a problem? Given the number of ZSyncer users out there and you're 
the only reporting this it seems unlikely its ZSyncer specific.

Sounds like its time for you to fire up your Python debugger, make a 
really good pot of tea and do some digging :)

Cheers.
-- 
   Andy McKay



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From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Mon Mar 24 06:44:06 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:14:06 +0530
Subject: [Zope] ASP with Zope
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12DE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 24 06:53:44 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:53:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ASP with Zope
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12DE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12DE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.co
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Message-ID: <415264203.1048492424@[10.19.128.17]>

Zope has not been designed to be an ASP engine. Instead it uses DTML and=20
Zope PageTemplates
as markup languages. Checkout the Zope Book for details.

-aj

--On Montag, 24. M=E4rz 2003 12:14 Uhr +0530 Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj=20
<Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Can I use ASP code in zope? I have found that there is some support for
> JSP. Likewise, is there anything available for using ASP with zope?
> Regards,
> Paul.






From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Mon Mar 24 08:47:03 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:47:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Cachable objects
Message-ID: <200303240947.03573.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

  Hi,

I'd like to be able to cache several objects of my Zope site in a RAM cache 
manager.
My questions are :
 - how can I make a class "cachable" ?
 - is it the whole objects that are cached, or just the result of their called 
methods ?
 - when a cached object is modified, is there any way to refresh it in the 
cache ?
 - and any other important points about caching that I should take care of...

Thanks,

  Thierry

-- 
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  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Mon Mar 24 08:59:37 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:59:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Checking object's class
Message-ID: <200303240959.37195.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

  Hi,

I use custom Zope products written in Python.
In several cases, I have to check for published object's class and adapt 
several front-end parameters according to it.
My questions are simple :
 - is it better to test for "object.meta_type" or "isinstance (object, class)" 
(concerning performances as well as the possibility to create subclasses) ?
 - as long as subclasses are not to be created from ZMI but from another 
backoffice, is it possible to use the same "meta_type" for a class and all 
it's subclasses ?

Thanks,

  Thierry
-- 
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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Mon Mar 24 09:05:03 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:05:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Mixing DTML and Python scripts
Message-ID: <200303241005.03610.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

  Hi,

I used to create DTML methods to generate my HTML pages, but several of them 
are more "logic oriented" than "presentation oriented" (with a lot of 
<dtml-if...> !).
I've seen here and there that Python scripts are really faster than DTML 
methods to handle such conditions, but I'd like also to keep DTML methods for 
several ones.

Are there any drawbacks to mix DTML methods and Python scripts, calling each 
other, instead of keeping "pure" DTML methods ??

Thanks for any advise...

  Thierry

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From imre.steer@pvrt.hu  Mon Mar 24 09:10:19 2003
From: imre.steer@pvrt.hu (Imre Steer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:10:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Beginner question: How to install a product
Message-ID: <004e01c2f1e5$33b4ffe0$87aee1c1@informatika5>

Hi

I'm a new Zope user and I'm facing to a problem.
I want a Zope site on a windows NT domain with RemoteUserFolder and IIS as
an authentication frontend. After I installed the windows distribution of
Zope I put behind an IIS server (I found a howto at www.zope.org :
'Zope2,IIS and PCGI', created by brianh). All of it worked.

Now I have to install the RemoteUserFolder product but I don't know how to
do that. The Zope Manual has chapter14, but it's only about creating through
the web manageable products, nothing about installing external made
products.

Could you help me?

Thanks, Imre.




From sabaini@inode.at  Mon Mar 24 09:21:14 2003
From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:21:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Beginner question: How to install a product
In-Reply-To: <004e01c2f1e5$33b4ffe0$87aee1c1@informatika5>
References: <004e01c2f1e5$33b4ffe0$87aee1c1@informatika5>
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look for the section "Installing New Products"

  - peter.

Imre Steer wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm a new Zope user and I'm facing to a problem.
> I want a Zope site on a windows NT domain with RemoteUserFolder and IIS as
> an authentication frontend. After I installed the windows distribution of
> Zope I put behind an IIS server (I found a howto at www.zope.org :
> 'Zope2,IIS and PCGI', created by brianh). All of it worked.
> 
> Now I have to install the RemoteUserFolder product but I don't know how to
> do that. The Zope Manual has chapter14, but it's only about creating through
> the web manageable products, nothing about installing external made
> products.
> 
> Could you help me?
> 
> Thanks, Imre.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From lsh@wo.cz  Mon Mar 24 09:39:34 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:39:34 -0000
Subject: [Zope] localfs, how to secure for homedirs...
Message-ID: <3E6FFDAA00239D12@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: Jim Penny <jpenny@universal-fasteners.com>
: > Another solution - what about samba server at local machine and smbfs
: > mounted to the same machine?
: >=20
: > localfs_user1 --> smbfs_mountedfolder_user1 --> /home/user1
: > localfs_user2 --> smbfs_mountedfolder_user2 --> /home/user2
: > etc...
: >=20
: > Mounting like (single line):
: >=20
: > mount -t smbfs -o uid=3Dxxx,gid=3Dxxx,username=3Duser1,password=3Dfff=
fff
: > //localhost/mountpointuser1 /zope_localfs/user1
: > =20
: >=20
: > You only need to hide this file from reading at all, allow executing
only.=20
: > Rights like --x--x--x root root=20
:=20
: I am unclear what you mean by this file.  Are you talking about the=20
: mount script here?  Or are you talking about /zope_localfs/user1?

About mount script.  /zope_localfs/user1 will have rights to zope access.
But it will be good, if /zope_localfs will have directory above, eg.
/zope_hide/zope_localfs...

/zope_hide will does not have a "RWX" attribute for anybody, so anybody
except root will does not see content of /zope_hide.

Regards JL.


From lsh@wo.cz  Mon Mar 24 09:29:45 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:29:45 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Reversible encryption on passwords?
Message-ID: <3E6FFDAA00239D08@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: Terry Hancock <hancock@anansispaceworks.com>
: > You could generate temporary random password

: Another option is to actually use two passwords -- a low=20
: security one that does the current job and a=20
: higher-security one for the expansion stuff (and encrypt=20
: that one in the usual way).  That's sort of annoying too,=20
: though.

I remember that in years ago (5-10) was used "secret question".

So you are asked in registration for "secret question" and for "secret
answer". You could write to question for example "what is date of born of
my mom and she maiden name YYYYMMDDname" and write answer 19400521newmann=
=2E

If you have forgot password, you could stil authenticate with help of thi=
s
secret question. It could be good security thing to make answer not
readable in back, like passwords.

Regards JL.


From lsh@wo.cz  Mon Mar 24 09:47:11 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:47:11 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Add File
Message-ID: <3E6FFDAA00239D19@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

: Odes=EDlatel: glxrd <glxrd@compuserve.de>
: My users may have to upload a large number of files to Zope and they
: would prefer to do so at once.

You could use

1. FTL access
2. ZipFolder product

(2) you will pack content and upload from ZMI. But aware, zipFolder does
not unpack files >4MB, you need to define bigger constant in ZipFolder
source to allow that.

JL.


From wim@dv-rec.com  Mon Mar 24 09:04:18 2003
From: wim@dv-rec.com (Wim Bekker)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:04:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Boa constructor, starting zope
Message-ID: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8C4@SERVER01>

Hi,

I have an intranet running zope and Zwiki. I want to learn more about
programming in python, and extending my zwiki intranet.

For this I've installed Boa constructor. Now I've to get Zope running. I
have installed Python23 on my system. My Zope installation uses Python21.

When I start p2.py from Boa, or the command line which runs pythong23,
somewhere python21.dll called. I cannot figure out where exactly, but I
believe it has something to do with zlib. But when I use zlib from version
23 I get the same error. Here's how far I'm now:

I start Boa, run z2.py. This gives the error unable to find python21.dll.
This error also happens when I run z2.py from explorer (python23 loads and
runs it). In Boa, I get a Traceback: z2.py: import ZServer? ....
HTTPResponse?.py: import zlib,struct.

When I copy python21.dll to the path, I get an import error: module use of
python21.dll conflicts with this version of Python. (same traceback).

I definitely could use some help on how to get past this obstacle. Currently
I use Zope 2.6.0, python 2.1.3 (for Zope) and zwiki 0.11 on windows
platform.

Main question (for now), how do I run p2.py with the new python?

Wim 



From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 24 11:01:20 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:01:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting aquisition values from object attribute
Message-ID: <3E7EE580.1000304@mxm.dk>

I have a product which has an object attribute that is an object. Just 
like HTMLFile() or similar.

I need to get the aquisition values from the parent object. How on earth 
do I do that?

Pseudocode

class MyAttr:

    def title(self)
        "I need to get ie. title value from 'MyProduct'"
        return # ?????


class MyProduct:

    my_attr = MyAttr()
    

regards Max M



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Mon Mar 24 11:04:26 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:04:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Getting aquisition values from object attribute
In-Reply-To: <3E7EE580.1000304@mxm.dk>
References: <3E7EE580.1000304@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <200303241104.26060.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Monday 24 March 2003 11:01 am, Max M wrote:
> I have a product which has an object attribute that is an object. Just
> like HTMLFile() or similar.
>
> I need to get the aquisition values from the parent object. How on earth
> do I do that?
>
> Pseudocode

import Acquisition

class MyAttr(Acqusition.Implicit):
>
>     def title(self)
>         "I need to get ie. title value from 'MyProduct'"
>         return # ?????
>
>

class MyProduct(Acqusition.Implicit):
>
>     my_attr = MyAttr()
>

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From johanc@easypublisher.com  Mon Mar 24 11:18:48 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:18:48 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Getting aquisition values from object attribute
In-Reply-To: <3E7EE580.1000304@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324111517.028a47b0@mail.torped.se>

At 12:01 2003-03-24 +0100, Max M said:
>I have a product which has an object attribute that is an object. Just 
>like HTMLFile() or similar.
>
>I need to get the aquisition values from the parent object. How on earth 
>do I do that?
>
>Pseudocode
>
>class MyAttr:
>
>    def title(self)
>        "I need to get ie. title value from 'MyProduct'"
>        return # ?????
>
>
>class MyProduct:
>
>    my_attr = MyAttr()

I addition to You may need using Acquisition.Implicit
you might need to use aq_parent. Or remove the title method alltogether.

from Acquisition import Implicit, aq_parent

class MyAttr(Implicit):

    def title(self)
        "I need to get ie. title value from 'MyProduct'"
        return aq_parent(self).title


class MyProduct:

    my_attr = MyAttr()


Regards,
Johan Carlsson



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From ashleylloyd@hotmail.com  Mon Mar 24 11:48:12 2003
From: ashleylloyd@hotmail.com (Ashley Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:48:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Simple Formatting floats in DTML
Message-ID: <BAY2-F65vrmUaNKTUsL00043b87@hotmail.com>

I know this is a very simple question, but after searching the zope site and 
lists I still have not found an answer.

I need to format a great deal of floating point numbers for accountants to 
read, so need them using thousands_commas and if they are negative, display 
them in parentheses without the - sign.
eg 1004 = 1,004.00; -25436345.74 = (25,436,345.74)

I could write a python script to do this, but I thought there was probably a 
parameter, similar to thousands_commas, (like negative_brackets, say) that 
could to this for me.

Can anyone confirm this either way?

TIA
Ashley


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From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Mon Mar 24 12:13:36 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:13:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Changing Objects properties
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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Hi

=20

I have a newbee question. I have made a form in a DTMLMethod which i'm
going to use, to change some properties in an object. I'm calling it
with: http://site/theObjectToChange/theMethod  - and that part is
working fine. When I have changed the values, how can I "save" those
changes to the object.

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Regards

=20

Jens Bjerre


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From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 24 12:18:09 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:18:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting aquisition values from object attribute
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324111517.028a47b0@mail.torped.se>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324111517.028a47b0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <3E7EF781.1040908@mxm.dk>

Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher] wrote:

> I addition to You may need using Acquisition.Implicit
> you might need to use aq_parent. Or remove the title method alltogether. 


Yes ... thanks. But it isn't really the title attribute I am after, so 
it will not be a problem

regards Max M



From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 24 12:17:07 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:17:07 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting aquisition values from object attribute
In-Reply-To: <200303241104.26060.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <3E7EE580.1000304@mxm.dk> <200303241104.26060.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <3E7EF743.7070707@mxm.dk>

Toby Dickenson wrote:

>On Monday 24 March 2003 11:01 am, Max M wrote:
>  
>
>>I have a product which has an object attribute that is an object. Just
>>like HTMLFile() or similar.
>>
>>I need to get the aquisition values from the parent object. How on earth
>>do I do that?
>>
>>Pseudocode
>>    
>>
>
>import Acquisition
>
>class MyAttr(Acqusition.Implicit):
>

Doh! slap!

Off course ,,, thank you.

regards Max M




From Oliver@tekk.dk  Mon Mar 24 13:16:06 2003
From: Oliver@tekk.dk (Oliver Marx)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:16:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Changing Objects properties
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <3E7F0516.1040108@tekk.dk>

Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  
> 
> I have a newbee question. I have made a form in a DTMLMethod which i’m 
> going to use, to change some properties in an object. I’m calling it 
> with: http://site/theObjectToChange/theMethod  - and that part is 
> working fine. When I have changed the values, how can I “save” those 
> changes to the object.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Jens Bjerre
> 
manage_changeProperties is your friend... I think ;)

\Oliver

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From Oliver@tekk.dk  Mon Mar 24 13:30:06 2003
From: Oliver@tekk.dk (Oliver Marx)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:30:06 +0100
Subject: [SV: [Zope] Changing Objects properties]
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Well, it looks like it.

I would look at the Zope source code.

\Oliver

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Hi

Thank's, but i have tried that.

My update form have an action pointing to this method:

------------------------------------------------------------
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-call "PARENTS[0].manage_changeProperties(beskrivelse =3D =
REQUEST['new_beskrivelse'])">

<dtml-var standard_html_footer>
-------------------------------------------------------------

When i try that, i get the following error:

Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: manage_changeProperties

Maby it's a question of NameSpace ???

Regards

Jens

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Til: Jens JB. Bjerre
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Emne: Re: [Zope] Changing Objects properties

Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> Hi
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I have a newbee question. I have made a form in a DTMLMethod which i'm =

> going to use, to change some properties in an object. I'm calling it=20
> with: http://site/theObjectToChange/theMethod  - and that part is=20
> working fine. When I have changed the values, how can I "save" those=20
> changes to the object.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Jens Bjerre
>=20
manage_changeProperties is your friend... I think ;)

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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Mon Mar 24 13:43:10 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:43:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] call a product from index_html
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF603@PROSERV>

Hi,

Is there a way to call products from index_html? I am looking to use
ExtFile. The product is what I want but I want to avoid users having to log
into the management interface. Can this be done? Thanks.



Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Mon Mar 24 13:55:54 2003
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:55:54 -0000
Subject: [Zope] ExternalEditor/OpenOffice
In-Reply-To: <189723117.1048447129@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <189723117.1048447129@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <256745630.1048514154@[192.168.1.2]>


--On 23 March 2003 19:18 +0000 Paul Browning <paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk> 
wrote:


> I got it to work with the following in zopeedit.ini
>
> [content-type:application/vnd.sun.xml.writer]
> extension=.sxw
> editor="F:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org1.0\program\soffice.exe" "%1"
>
> Note that you have to ensure that the file object containing
> the .sxw file has
>
> Content Type application/vnd.sun.xml.writer

Even better (than Word) OpenOffice is happy with two or
more files open using ExternalEditor!

Paul

--
 The Library, Tyndall Avenue, Univ. of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1TJ, UK
   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/



From sabaini@inode.at  Mon Mar 24 14:27:26 2003
From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:27:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Changing Objects properties
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <3E7F15CE.4080307@inode.at>

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see:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/ScriptingZope.stx
section "Change properties of an object"

hth,
peter.



Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  
> 
> I have a newbee question. I have made a form in a DTMLMethod which i’m 
> going to use, to change some properties in an object. I’m calling it 
> with: http://site/theObjectToChange/theMethod  - and that part is 
> working fine. When I have changed the values, how can I “save” those 
> changes to the object.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Jens Bjerre
> 

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From bobc@p-wave.com  Mon Mar 24 14:41:25 2003
From: bobc@p-wave.com (Bob Corriher)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:41:25 -0500
Subject: [Zope] wysiwyg for zope/cms projects??
Message-ID: <3E7F1915.2070108@p-wave.com>

We have been using eWebEditPro from Ektron (www.ektron.com) with sucess. 
Supports both Explorer and Netscape (except Mac). It's been reliable and 
relatively inexpensive ($300.00 US for 10 users). Easy to interface with 
Zope thru javascript.

Bob Corriher
P-Wave Inc.



From tillea@rki.de  Mon Mar 24 14:51:35 2003
From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:51:35 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Setting default filename for download
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303241545570.7206-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>

Hello,

I want to offer some PDF documents for download by a script.  I do this
by

    response = container.REQUEST.RESPONSE

    pdf  = <some code>
    name = <some reasonable name for this pdf>

    response.setHeader('Content-type', 'application/pdf' )
    response.setHeader('Content-Length', len(pdf))
    return pdf

I just want to realize that the downloader gets a sane default name for
the file to download which is stored in the variable "name" instead of
just the name of the script which returns the pdf.

How can I specify this?

Kind regards

        Andreas.

--
Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.
John F. Kennedy



From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 24 15:01:54 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:01:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Getting aquisition values from object attribute
In-Reply-To: <200303241104.26060.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <3E7EE580.1000304@mxm.dk> <200303241104.26060.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <3E7F1DE2.2080200@mxm.dk>

Toby Dickenson wrote:

>import Acquisition
>
>class MyAttr(Acqusition.Implicit):
>  
>

Ok ... I have changed my class to the code below (only relevant code shown):

But it gives me a recursion error. I have no ide as to why:

regards Max M

    from Acquisition import Implicit
   
    class I18nBase(Implicit):

        textBundle = {}
   
        __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__=1
   
        def __getitem__(self, textId):
            """
            Takes a short text id and returns a string
            in the selected language
            """
            default_language = 'dk'
            error_msg = '<font color="red"><b>TRANSLATION 
MISSING</b></font>'
            language = getattr(self, 'language', default_language)
            return self.textBundle.get(
                    language, default_language).get(textId, error_msg)
   
   
    class Test_i18n(I18nBase):   
        "i18n for the test page"
        t = {}
        t['dk'] = {}
        t['uk'] = {}
   
        t['dk']['hello'] = 'Hej verden'
        t['uk']['hello'] = 'Hello World'
   
   
    ######################
    class ots_Department(TheUsualZopeClasses):
            "A normal working Zope product"
            test = PageTemplateFile('zpt/test', globals())
            test_i18n = Test_i18n()
   
    ######################
    ## test.zpt
    <span tal:define="i18n here/test_i18n">
        <span tal:replace="i18n/hello">Hej verden</span>
    </span>



From shane@zope.com  Mon Mar 24 15:07:51 2003
From: shane@zope.com (Shane Hathaway)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5CC@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E7F1F47.50906@zope.com>

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Performance-wise, wouldn't partitioning your storages have the _potential_
> to be a win if you were able to distribute transactions onto different
> ClientStorages on different dedicated ZSS nodes, assuming heavy usage?  At
> what point does one want to worry about the ZSS as a performance bottleneck
> (or should one worry at all)?  I've always thought partitioning via
> multiple, mounted storages would be the answer, but I've never known enough
> to confirm or deny this?

Well, FWIW, I think you're correct. ;-)

Shane



From shane@zope.com  Mon Mar 24 15:11:44 2003
From: shane@zope.com (Shane Hathaway)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:11:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
References: <200303181323.25316.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303181258210.3952-100000@shane.zope.com> <200303190837.38280.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.50.0303191252230.7682-100000@shane.zope.com> <3E79916C.7070606@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E7F2030.7030500@zope.com>

Chris Withers wrote:
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Thierry FLORAC wrote:
>>
>>> And another one : does the fact of splitting a Zope site between 
>>> several ZODBs can have any impact (improvement or not) on the whole 
>>> performances ??
>>
>>
>> There is no measurable difference in performance unless you mount a large
>> number of databases.  The MountPoint._setDB() and MountPoint.close() 
>> methods are the issue here: they have to open/close all mounted 
>> connections, even if they won't be used in the course of a transaction.  
> 
> 
> Hmmm... well, just a data point, but since I moved one of our big setups 
> (Two ClientStorages mounted into another ClientStorage) from ExtMount to 
> DBTab, I've noticed that the first object loaded from a mounted storage 
> takes significantly(and I do mean significant ;-) longer than it used to 
> and longer than any subsequent loads of objects from that storage. I 
> wonder what's taking the time? The mounted storages all have fairly 
> large (100-400Mb) ZEO client caches, but they were that way with 
> ExtMount too.

I can't think of an explanation.  I tried for 4 days. ;-)

Shane



From imre.steer@pvrt.hu  Mon Mar 24 15:34:42 2003
From: imre.steer@pvrt.hu (Imre Steer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:34:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Beginner question: How to install a product
Message-ID: <009b01c2f21a$e50b7500$87aee1c1@informatika5>

Hi

Thanks for your help.

Now I can get RemoteUserFolder in Zope but how can I link it to a directory
(or to the Root Folder)?
At first I tried to add a RemoteUserFolder for a test directory under the
Root Folder. I succeeded, now there is a Remote User Folder object but how
can I make it active? I just want that if I change the Security tab on a
document so that only authenticated users should view it than anybody who's
in the Alternative User Object Folder should have the right to view it and
nobody who's not in it.
Is there a way to replace the original User Folder object with the
Alternative User Folder i want to use? I'm afraid that after I just simply
delete it from the root folder i couldn't add the replacement because then I
won't be able log in as admin.
I'm sorry about the idiot questions. I think it's general with all the
alternative user folders that can be used with Zope but I couldn't find any
clear reference on how to use them.

> in
>
>
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/MaintainingZope.
stx
>
> look for the section "Installing New Products"
>
>   - peter.
>
> Imre Steer wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm a new Zope user and I'm facing to a problem.
> > I want a Zope site on a windows NT domain with RemoteUserFolder and IIS
as
> > an authentication frontend. After I installed the windows distribution
of
> > Zope I put behind an IIS server (I found a howto at www.zope.org :
> > 'Zope2,IIS and PCGI', created by brianh). All of it worked.
> >
> > Now I have to install the RemoteUserFolder product but I don't know how
to
> > do that. The Zope Manual has chapter14, but it's only about creating
through
> > the web manageable products, nothing about installing external made
> > products.
> >
> > Could you help me?
> >
> > Thanks, Imre.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists -
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> >
> >
>



From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Mon Mar 24 15:34:12 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:34:12 +0000
Subject: [Zope] DBTab product questions (more...)
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5CC@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D5CC@desi2>
Message-ID: <200303241534.12583.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 7:03 pm, sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Performance-wise, wouldn't partitioning your storages have the _potential_
> to be a win if you were able to distribute transactions onto different
> ClientStorages on different dedicated ZSS nodes, assuming heavy usage?

In ZEO1 this limit was actually quite easy to reach with concurrent writes. 
ZEO2 is better, perhaps 'good enough', but not as good as it could be. I 
guess any future gains will come from making ZSS multi-threaded, and allow 
the storage to process concurrent reads.


-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From jordi_yc@lycos.es  Mon Mar 24 16:43:53 2003
From: jordi_yc@lycos.es (Jordi)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:43:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ExternalEditor/OpenOffice
In-Reply-To: <189723117.1048447129@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <189723117.1048447129@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <3E7F35C9.6010901@lycos.es>

Paul Browning wrote:

>
>
> --On 23 March 2003 18:46 +0100 Arthur Tomas <arthur.tomas@web.de> wrote:
>
>> i have some trouble with ExtrnalEditor (many thanks to Casey Duncan
>> for this great product! it works with many editors ... and with emacs!),
>> if i try to use it with OpenOffice 1.0 + W2K + Zope-2.6 I get the 
>> Error-Message: "Error launching Editor Process" Does anybody know a 
>> solution for this Problem?
>> I do not want to install or work with CMF..
>

I am having the same problem. OpenOffice 1.0.2 + W2K + Zope-2.6+External 
Editor 0.5

Does Webdav have to be enabled  or not filtered by the firewall?



From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl  Mon Mar 24 17:18:56 2003
From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:18:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Implementing a website using zope
Message-ID: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E49@exchange.spc.nl>

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Hi,
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I have build a website using asp and want to reimplement this in zope. =
(reason: Zope knowledge)
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It basically works like:
1) user logs in to the system using organisation code and password.
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*) depending on the organisation code the user has admin, restricted =
admin or user priveleges
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2) user selects his name from a list
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3) user selects from a collection of subscribed (to the organisation) =
lists a list.
=20
4) user fills in the list and submits his answers.
=20
*) user is presented the results of his answers and answers of other =
users within the organisation.
=20
When loggin in as an admin organisation it is possible to:
- add/edit/delete an organisation
- subscribe an organisation to one ore more lists
- create/modify lists
- delete users from organisations
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Is it possible to create such a project not by writing a zope product =
but fully through the zmi=20
and fully using the ZODB (no SQL)? And where do i start ?
what are the best practices in implementing such a project in Zope?
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Too many questions i have and too little knowledge.
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Please help,
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Daniel
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have =
build a=20
website using asp and want to reimplement this in zope. (reason: Zope=20
knowledge)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It =
basically works=20
like:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) =
user logs in to=20
the system using organisation code and password.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*) =
depending on the=20
organisation code the user has admin, restricted admin or user=20
priveleges</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) =
user selects his=20
name from a list</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3) =
user selects from=20
a collection of subscribed (to the organisation) lists a=20
list.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4) =
user fills in the=20
list and submits his answers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>*) =
user is presented=20
the results of his answers and answers of other users within the=20
organisation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When =
loggin in as an=20
admin organisation&nbsp;it is possible to:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- =
add/edit/delete an=20
organisation</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- =
subscribe an=20
organisation to one ore more lists</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- =
create/modify=20
lists</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>- =
delete users from=20
organisations</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it =
possible to=20
create such a project not by writing a zope product but fully through =
the zmi=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and =
fully using the=20
ZODB (no SQL)? And where do i start ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what =
are the best=20
practices in implementing such a project in Zope?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Too =
many questions i=20
have and too little knowledge.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please =

help,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D709433616-24032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Mon Mar 24 17:26:44 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:26:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF72E@PROSERV>

Hi,

I am looking for any ZCGI documentation. So far all I have found is the
release notes on zope.org. Any pointers will be appreciated, thanks.


Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From lennart@regebro.nu  Mon Mar 24 17:53:57 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:53:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Implementing a website using zope
In-Reply-To: <3E7F45F9.1080106@regebro.nu>
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283E49@exchange.spc.nl> <3E7F45F9.1080106@regebro.nu>
Message-ID: <3E7F4635.3080806@regebro.nu>

Daniël Hooymans wrote:
 > 4) user fills in the list and submits his answers.

This part is inclear to me, but it sounds simple enough.

 > Is it possible to create such a project not by writing a zope product 
but fully through the zmi

Yes. (Although it may or may not be the best solution to do it fully 
through the ZMI. But it is possible, and doesn't seem to complex).

 > and fully using the ZODB (no SQL)?

Absolutely.

 > And where do i start ?
 > what are the best practices in implementing such a project in Zope?

You need to decide what a "list" is and how you submit "answers" and how 
these answers should be stored. Then you try to implement one such list, 
and tackle the problems one at a time.



From sebastian@queisser-net.de  Mon Mar 24 17:54:56 2003
From: sebastian@queisser-net.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Quei=DFer?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:54:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Import File
Message-ID: <3E7F4670.2020606@queisser-net.de>

Hi!

Is there a function in python like ImageFile() for a normal file, like a 
pdf?
If so, can you tell me where I have to import it from.

Thanks
Sebastian



From creiman@kefta.com  Mon Mar 24 18:00:03 2003
From: creiman@kefta.com (Charlie Reiman)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:00:03 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKOEAEDKAA.creiman@kefta.com>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of AM
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:49 PM
> Cc: Zope
> Subject: Re: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
>
>
> I downloaded the latest version, reinstalled it on both machines.
>
> It works on one and fails on the other:
>
> The error again:
>
> <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150,
> in publish_module
> response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114,
> in publish
> sys.exc_info()[2],
> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
> in zpublisher_exception_hook
> log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
> AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
> '>
>
> Any ideas anybody??

Have you tried manually exporting and importing the relevent section of the
tree?  This is pretty much all zsyncer does so if that fails as well, you
know zsyncer isn't the issue.




From lluporini@yahoo.com.ar  Mon Mar 24 18:17:49 2003
From: lluporini@yahoo.com.ar (Luis Mariano Luporini)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:17:49 -0300
Subject: [Zope] Zipfile and dtml output for dynamic openoffice docs creation
Message-ID: <3E7F4BCD.6050802@yahoo.com.ar>

Hi list!

I'm learning Zope and Python. I'm trying to generate an openoffice 
writer doc dynamically.

I'm using a dtml method that, by now, has static content and outputs a 
xml oo writer friendly string (oo format compliant).

I'd like to go through this procedure:

1) take the output of the dtml method and feed it into a python script,
2) in the script zip it (forcing something like content.xml to the name 
of the zipped string taken from 1),
3) and then generate the correct hearders to allow a user with a browser 
to download the zip file (indeed a sxw document).

I've read through python docs and learnt a little about zipfile module, 
but the write function of a ZipeFile object expects a filename param 
that must refer to an existing filesystem file.

Is it posible to get the output of 1 and generate a zipfile (preferably 
in memory, StringIO i think), compressing just the that output without 
the need to save it in the filesystem temporally?


Thank in advance.

Luis.

PD: It's a great community out there. I really feel comfortable in this 
list.



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:53:17 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:53:17 -0800
Subject: [Zope] lots of ZODB conflict errors
Message-ID: <3E7F541D.8030005@neurobs.com>

Any way to reduce these?

TIA
AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From glxrd@compuserve.de  Mon Mar 24 20:54:08 2003
From: glxrd@compuserve.de (glxrd)
Date: 24 Mar 2003 19:54:08 -0100
Subject: [Zope] Add File
In-Reply-To: <3E6FFDAA00239D19@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by
 postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)
References: <3E6FFDAA00239D19@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by
 postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)
Message-ID: <1048539119.1146.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 08:47, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
> : Odes=C3=ADlatel: glxrd <glxrd@compuserve.de>
> : My users may have to upload a large number of files to Zope and they
> : would prefer to do so at once.
>=20
> You could use
>=20
> 1. FTL access
> 2. ZipFolder product
>=20
Thanks.
(2) is useful
Do you have a pointer for (1) ?




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:54:48 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:54:48 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com> <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <3E7F5478.5080303@neurobs.com>

Andy McKay wrote:

>> <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 
>> 150, in publish_module
>> response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 
>> 114, in publish
>> sys.exc_info()[2],
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 
>> 145, in zpublisher_exception_hook
>> log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
>> AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
>> '>
>
>
> Are you trying to sync or compare the error_log object maybe which 
> causes a problem? Given the number of ZSyncer users out there and 
> you're the only reporting this it seems unlikely its ZSyncer specific.
>
> Sounds like its time for you to fire up your Python debugger, make a 
> really good pot of tea and do some digging :)
>
> Cheers.

I have only set it up to sync DTML Methods.

AM

-- 
==================================================================
  Aseem Mohanty							
  Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706
  (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
  "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and
   stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes
==================================================================



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:54:55 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:54:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <20030323232126.GB19494@slinkp.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com> <20030323232126.GB19494@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <3E7F547F.5000409@neurobs.com>

Paul Winkler wrote:

>On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:48:50PM -0800, AM wrote:
>  
>
>>I downloaded the latest version, reinstalled it on both machines.
>>
>>It works on one and fails on the other:
>>
>>The error again:
>>
>><Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
>>Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150, 
>>in publish_module
>>response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, 
>>in publish
>>sys.exc_info()[2],
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145, 
>>in zpublisher_exception_hook
>>log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
>>AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
>>'>
>>    
>>
>
>Nothing in there makes any mention of ZSyncer code. Odd.
>What exactly triggers this error?  Is everything else working OK on the
>zope where you're having this problem?
>  
>
Yes zope works fine. This was working fine too about a few days back.

>The final line of the traceback is especially strange. Something is
>trying to find "manage_listObjects__error_log__" which looks like
>two variable names munged together. And I don't see that name
>anywhere in the zope source (2.6.1, i don't have 2.6.0)
>or anywhere in the ZSyncer source (0.4.6).
>
>Given all of the above, I have to wonder if you've somehow messed 
>up your zope installation.
>  
>
I dont even want to think of resetting up the whole thing, but I guess I
will ahve to.

TIA
AM



-- 
==================================================================
  Aseem Mohanty							
  Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706
  (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
  "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and
   stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes
==================================================================



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:55:11 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:55:11 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com> <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <3E7F548F.1000908@neurobs.com>

Andy McKay wrote:

>> <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 
>> 150, in publish_module
>> response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 
>> 114, in publish
>> sys.exc_info()[2],
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 
>> 145, in zpublisher_exception_hook
>> log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
>> AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
>> '>
>
>
> Are you trying to sync or compare the error_log object maybe which 
> causes a problem? Given the number of ZSyncer users out there and 
> you're the only reporting this it seems unlikely its ZSyncer specific.
>
> Sounds like its time for you to fire up your Python debugger, make a 
> really good pot of tea and do some digging :)
>
> Cheers.

I have only set it up to sync DTML Methods.

AM

-- 
==================================================================
  Aseem Mohanty							
  Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706
  (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
  "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and
   stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes
==================================================================



From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 18:40:18 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:40:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] newline in string arg to python script
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F66SEmpQiFXM9700011646@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY2-F66SEmpQiFXM9700011646@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15999.20754.140708.145757@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lee Harr wrote at 2003-3-23 19:23 +0000:
 > ... embedded newlines ...

Use "\n", i.e.

    'line1\nline2\nline3'


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 18:57:51 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:57:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] call a product from index_html
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF603@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF603@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <15999.21807.612930.375561@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

McDonnell, Larry wrote at 2003-3-24 08:43 -0500:
 > Is there a way to call products from index_html?

"Calling a product" seems wrong terminology.

I expect, you mean "access a product", e.g. to construct an instance
of one of its classes. This looks like

   someObjectManager.manage_addProduct[ProductName].....

       
 > I am looking to use
 > ExtFile. The product is what I want but I want to avoid users having to log
 > into the management interface. Can this be done?

Read about proxie roles in the Zope Book (2.6. edition).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 19:00:11 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:00:11 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Setting default filename for download
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303241545570.7206-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303241545570.7206-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
Message-ID: <15999.21947.987065.341928@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Andreas Tille wrote at 2003-3-24 15:51 +0100:
 > I want to offer some PDF documents for download by a script.  I do this
 > by
 > 
 >     response = container.REQUEST.RESPONSE
 > 
 >     pdf  = <some code>
 >     name = <some reasonable name for this pdf>
 > 
 >     response.setHeader('Content-type', 'application/pdf' )
 >     response.setHeader('Content-Length', len(pdf))
 >     return pdf
 > 
 > I just want to realize that the downloader gets a sane default name for
 > the file to download which is stored in the variable "name" instead of
 > just the name of the script which returns the pdf.
 > 
 > How can I specify this?

Search (Google) for "Content-Disposition".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 18:50:48 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:50:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
References: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <15999.21384.761988.85567@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Stefan A. Nagey wrote at 2003-3-23 15:23 -0500:
 > I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.
 > 
 > I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
 > 
 > Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.
 > 
 > I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then 
 > importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py
 > 
 > i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch of 
 > objects.
 > 
 > The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest 
 > that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?

Provided you have enough disk space, use
"fsdump" to get a textual representation of your "Data.fs".

You will see object records containing "oid" values.
These are hexadecimal representations of the values reported
in "POSKeyError" (side node: why do "POSKeyError" not report
the hexadecimal value?).
To convert between hexadecimal and textual representation,
you can use "U64" and "p64" from "ZODB.utils".
"U64" converts a textual representation into a long
and "p64" converts a long into a textual representation.

Use a text editor to find the last reference to your missing
object in the textual
representation of your "Data.fs" (obtained by "fsdump").
That's the last time, the object has been modified.

Look at the next transaction record. It has a "tid" field.
Note the "offset" for this transaction.
Truncate your "Data.fs" to the given offset (in a copy, of course).
Start Zope with the truncated "Data.fs".
Your object should be there.
Export it (you will get the state as it was at the time of the
transaction where you have cut "Data.fs"; you may try to use
later transaction, to be more up-to-date).

Import the exported object into a Data.fs where you want to 
work with.



Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 18:55:35 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:55:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Simple Formatting floats in DTML
In-Reply-To: <BAY2-F65vrmUaNKTUsL00043b87@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY2-F65vrmUaNKTUsL00043b87@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <15999.21671.13552.371171@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ashley Lloyd wrote at 2003-3-24 11:48 +0000:
 > I know this is a very simple question, but after searching the zope site and 
 > lists I still have not found an answer.
 > 
 > I need to format a great deal of floating point numbers for accountants to 
 > read, so need them using thousands_commas and if they are negative, display 
 > them in parentheses without the - sign.
 > eg 1004 = 1,004.00; -25436345.74 = (25,436,345.74)
 > 
 > I could write a python script to do this, but I thought there was probably a 
 > parameter, similar to thousands_commas, (like negative_brackets, say) that 
 > could to this for me.
 > 
 > Can anyone confirm this either way?

You need to write the script for the "negative" handling.

You can use the "thousands_comma" from "Products.PythonScripts.standard".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 18:53:54 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:53:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Checking object's class
In-Reply-To: <200303240959.37195.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303240959.37195.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <15999.21570.135900.871442@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-24 09:59 +0100:
 > ...
 >  - is it better to test for "object.meta_type"

Drawback:

  no inheritance check

 > or "isinstance (object, class)" 

Drawback:

  you usually need "object.aq_base".

  It's more expensive than a simple "meta_type" check.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 24 18:52:34 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:52:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Cachable objects
In-Reply-To: <200303240947.03573.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303240947.03573.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <15999.21490.390659.334659@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-24 09:47 +0100:
 > I'd like to be able to cache several objects of my Zope site in a RAM cache 
 > manager.
 > My questions are :
 >  - how can I make a class "cachable" ?
 >  - is it the whole objects that are cached, or just the result of their called 
 > methods ?
 >  - when a cached object is modified, is there any way to refresh it in the 
 > cache ?
 >  - and any other important points about caching that I should take care of...

RTDF: Read the "Cache Manager API" (--> embedded online help).

Look at some examples, e.g. DTML Method and Python Script.

Come back with more specific question where there remain some....


Dieter


From maxm@mxm.dk  Mon Mar 24 19:06:09 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:06:09 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Import File
In-Reply-To: <3E7F4670.2020606@queisser-net.de>
References: <3E7F4670.2020606@queisser-net.de>
Message-ID: <3E7F5721.2060803@mxm.dk>

Sebastian Quei=DFer wrote:

> Is there a function in python like ImageFile() for a normal file, like =

> a pdf?
> If so, can you tell me where I have to import it from.


I think you need to do something like:

import OFS

f =3D open('path/to/file', 'rb')
data =3D f.read()
f.close()
self._setObject(fileID, OFS.Image.Image(fileID,'Laerings graf',''))
self._getOb(fileID).update_data(data)



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:30:47 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:30:47 -0800
Subject: [Zope] lots of ZODB conflict errors
Message-ID: <3E7F4ED7.9070902@neurobs.com>

Is there any way to reduce these??

AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:29:46 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:29:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] lots of ZODB conflict errors
Message-ID: <3E7F4E9A.6020802@neurobs.com>

Is there any way to reduce these??

AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:10:28 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:10:28 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com> <3E7E60EC.1000406@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <3E7F4A14.2080404@neurobs.com>

Andy McKay wrote:

>> <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 
>> 150, in publish_module
>> response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 
>> 114, in publish
>> sys.exc_info()[2],
>> File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 
>> 145, in zpublisher_exception_hook
>> log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
>> AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
>> '>
>
>
> Are you trying to sync or compare the error_log object maybe which 
> causes a problem? Given the number of ZSyncer users out there and 
> you're the only reporting this it seems unlikely its ZSyncer specific.
>
> Sounds like its time for you to fire up your Python debugger, make a 
> really good pot of tea and do some digging :)
>
> Cheers.

I have only set it up to sync DTML Methods.

AM

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar 24 20:11:28 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:11:28 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Add File
References: <3E6FFDAA00239D19@stateless2.tiscali.cz> (added by	postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz) <1048539119.1146.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <3E7F6670.3030403@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>>: Odesílatel: glxrd <glxrd@compuserve.de>
>>: My users may have to upload a large number of files to Zope and they
>>: would prefer to do so at once.
>>
>>You could use
>>
>>1. FTL access
>>2. ZipFolder product
>>
>Thanks.
>(2) is useful
>Do you have a pointer for (1) ?
>  
>
I think that's "FTP access". FTP or WebDav is a good way to upload 
multiple files to Zope. Although faster-than-light access to Zope would 
be slick.

Also take a gander at "loadsite.py" in your utilities directory. If 
you're on the same machine, you might also use LocalFS.

            --jcc




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 24 18:11:23 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:11:23 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <20030323232126.GB19494@slinkp.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com> <3E7BB2F2.5080403@neurobs.com> <20030323232126.GB19494@slinkp.com>
Message-ID: <3E7F4A4B.4010807@neurobs.com>

Paul Winkler wrote:

>On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 04:48:50PM -0800, AM wrote:
>  
>
>>I downloaded the latest version, reinstalled it on both machines.
>>
>>It works on one and fails on the other:
>>
>>The error again:
>>
>><Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
>>Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150, 
>>in publish_module
>>response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114, 
>>in publish
>>sys.exc_info()[2],
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145, 
>>in zpublisher_exception_hook
>>log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
>>AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
>>'>
>>    
>>
>
>Nothing in there makes any mention of ZSyncer code. Odd.
>What exactly triggers this error?  Is everything else working OK on the
>zope where you're having this problem?
>  
>
Yes zope works fine. This was working fine too about a few days back.

>The final line of the traceback is especially strange. Something is
>trying to find "manage_listObjects__error_log__" which looks like
>two variable names munged together. And I don't see that name
>anywhere in the zope source (2.6.1, i don't have 2.6.0)
>or anywhere in the ZSyncer source (0.4.6).
>
>Given all of the above, I have to wonder if you've somehow messed 
>up your zope installation.
>  
>
I dont even want to think of resetting up the whole thing, but I guess I 
will ahve to.

TIA
AM



-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From andy@agmweb.ca  Mon Mar 24 22:24:52 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:24:52 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Cachable objects
In-Reply-To: <200303240947.03573.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303240947.03573.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <3E7F85B4.9020802@agmweb.ca>

> I'd like to be able to cache several objects of my Zope site in a RAM cache 
> manager.
> My questions are :
>  - how can I make a class "cachable" ?

Inherit from Cachable. Take a look at DTML Methods for example.

>  - is it the whole objects that are cached, or just the result of their called 
> methods ?

The result of it being called is cached. For example a pile of HTML 
usually is result of caching a DTML thing :)

>  - when a cached object is modified, is there any way to refresh it in the 
> cache ?

Yes when you update the object, you call a particular method in Cachable 
to delete it. Again see examples in DTML Methods.

>  - and any other important points about caching that I should take care of...

Nah pretty simple actually ;)
-- 
   Andy McKay



From andy@agmweb.ca  Mon Mar 24 22:36:51 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:36:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKOEAEDKAA.creiman@kefta.com>
References: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKOEAEDKAA.creiman@kefta.com>
Message-ID: <3E7F8883.2020107@agmweb.ca>

> Have you tried manually exporting and importing the relevent section of the
> tree?  This is pretty much all zsyncer does so if that fails as well, you
> know zsyncer isn't the issue.

The manage_listObjects in there is suspicous though, because that's 
whats happening on a sync. God knows why here, but I believe the problme 
occurs on the comparison, although I dont think AM stated this.
-- 
   Andy McKay



From andy@agmweb.ca  Mon Mar 24 23:06:50 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:06:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] lots of ZODB conflict errors
In-Reply-To: <3E7F541D.8030005@neurobs.com>
References: <3E7F541D.8030005@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E7F8F8A.1080200@agmweb.ca>

AM wrote:
> Any way to reduce these?

Assem, looks you have sent the same email 3 times.

You haven't stated:

- your zope version
- your python version
- your applications (CMF for example)
- your platform
- the errors
- the error conditions (when they occur)

Do you really expect a useful answer?
-- 
   Andy McKay



From gagenellina@softlab.com.ar  Mon Mar 24 22:25:51 2003
From: gagenellina@softlab.com.ar (Gabriel Genellina)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:25:51 -0300
Subject: [Zope] How to access ZODB from python code
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324190624.01e84ba0@192.168.0.115>

Hi

I want to get access to some Zope objects stored in ZODB, from *outside* of 
any other Zope object (so I dont have anything to call getPhysicalRoot() or 
restrictedTraverse() on) but from *inside* python code running in the Zope 
process.
This doesnt work:

         from Zope import Zope
         app = Zope.app()
         app.restrictedTraverse(...)

The Zope server freezes, I guess there is a deadlock there.

Currently, I'm using a single instance of a bogus product (a singleton) 
stored at the root of the Zope hierarchy, just to get access to the ZODB. I 
dont like it being a product nor being stored in the Zope database, but I 
cant access the Zope DB otherwise.
How could I do that?


Gabriel Genellina
Softlab SRL



From lluporini@yahoo.com.ar  Mon Mar 24 23:21:21 2003
From: lluporini@yahoo.com.ar (Luis Mariano Luporini)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:21:21 -0300
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zipfile and dtml output for dynamic openoffice docs creation
 - SOLVED!
In-Reply-To: <3E7F4BCD.6050802@yahoo.com.ar>
References: <3E7F4BCD.6050802@yahoo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <3E7F92F1.9080708@yahoo.com.ar>

Stupid me!

writestr method of ZipFile class was the solution.

Sorry.

Luis.

Luis Mariano Luporini wrote:

> Hi list!
>
> I'm learning Zope and Python. I'm trying to generate an openoffice 
> writer doc dynamically.
>
> I'm using a dtml method that, by now, has static content and outputs a 
> xml oo writer friendly string (oo format compliant).
>
> I'd like to go through this procedure:
>
> 1) take the output of the dtml method and feed it into a python script,
> 2) in the script zip it (forcing something like content.xml to the 
> name of the zipped string taken from 1),
> 3) and then generate the correct hearders to allow a user with a 
> browser to download the zip file (indeed a sxw document).
>
> I've read through python docs and learnt a little about zipfile 
> module, but the write function of a ZipeFile object expects a filename 
> param that must refer to an existing filesystem file.
>
> Is it posible to get the output of 1 and generate a zipfile 
> (preferably in memory, StringIO i think), compressing just the that 
> output without the need to save it in the filesystem temporally?
>
>
> Thank in advance.
>
> Luis.
>
> PD: It's a great community out there. I really feel comfortable in 
> this list.
>




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Mon Mar 24 23:25:38 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:25:38 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Changing Objects properties
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC52F@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <3E7F93F2.1000609@jcameroncooper.com>

>
> I have a newbee question. I have made a form in a DTMLMethod which i’m 
> going to use, to change some properties in an object. I’m calling it 
> with: http://site/theObjectToChange/theMethod - and that part is 
> working fine. When I have changed the values, how can I “save” those 
> changes to the object.

In Zope if you change an attribute or property, it stays changed. 
(That's the whole deal behind persistence.)

What you may be thinking of is the passing of form data, which is 
available in the method to which you've passed that data. That's part of 
the REQUEST, which is a transient object. You can get at form data in 
the method that was just called, but in order to use it for other than 
immediate display, you'll have to do something with it in 'theMethod' . 
Probably you want manage_changeProperties(), from what I read, which 
will change the properties of the object it's being called on (in your 
case the container of 'theMethod') based on the name=value pairs in the 
REQUEST (which is a required parameter of that method) and any 
parameters passed to the method.

Example:

calling as http://server/container/method?title=moose a method containing

<dtml-call "manage_changeProperties(REQUEST)">
I got the title = <dtml-var title> and set it.

will set the 'title' property of 'container' to 'moose', as well as 
print that value. One can do this with either GET or POST actions.

One can also do

<dtml-call "manage_changeProperties(title='mooses')">

without needing the REQUEST object.

You can do this with more than 'manage_changeProperties()': any method 
of any object could be used like this.

--jcc



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Tue Mar 25 00:03:07 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:03:07 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <15999.21384.761988.85567@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
 <15999.21384.761988.85567@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <46527.199.67.140.20.1048550587.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Wow. Thanks Dieter. I can't wait to try this.

Are these the steps?

1) Dump Data.fs (backup copy) to text file using fsdump
2) Convert POSKeyError to hex OID (object ID) using U64
3) Find last UID in the Data.fs dump using text editor
4) Find TID of next transaction's and  offset number
5) Truncate Data.fs to that given offset (tool? how?)
6) Start Zope with truncated Data.fs
7) Find object with problem and export it
9) Import object into new Zope installation

Questions:
- How do you truncate a Data.fs to an offset?
- How do I know where the object is that had the problem (will I see it in
the Data.fs dump I did?)

Thanks for all your help.

BZ


> Stefan A. Nagey wrote at 2003-3-23 15:23 -0500:
>  > I've been struggling with this one non-stop since last night.
>  >
>  > I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
>  >
>  > Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.
>  >
>  > I've tried deleting the index, packing the DB, exporting and then
>  > importing into a fresh Data.fs, using fsrecover.py
>  >
>  > i've also tried fsrefs.py, which tells me that i'm missing a bunch of
>  > objects.
>  >
>  > The size of my Data.fs is prettymuch unchanged, which might suggest
>  > that the data is still there, but how do i get to it?
>
> Provided you have enough disk space, use
> "fsdump" to get a textual representation of your "Data.fs".
>
> You will see object records containing "oid" values.
> These are hexadecimal representations of the values reported
> in "POSKeyError" (side node: why do "POSKeyError" not report
> the hexadecimal value?).
> To convert between hexadecimal and textual representation,
> you can use "U64" and "p64" from "ZODB.utils".
> "U64" converts a textual representation into a long
> and "p64" converts a long into a textual representation.
>
> Use a text editor to find the last reference to your missing
> object in the textual
> representation of your "Data.fs" (obtained by "fsdump").
> That's the last time, the object has been modified.
>
> Look at the next transaction record. It has a "tid" field.
> Note the "offset" for this transaction.
> Truncate your "Data.fs" to the given offset (in a copy, of course).
> Start Zope with the truncated "Data.fs".
> Your object should be there.
> Export it (you will get the state as it was at the time of the
> transaction where you have cut "Data.fs"; you may try to use
> later transaction, to be more up-to-date).
>
> Import the exported object into a Data.fs where you want to
> work with.
>
>
>
> Dieter
>
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From kedai@kedai.com.my  Tue Mar 25 01:08:46 2003
From: kedai@kedai.com.my (Bakhtiar A Hamid)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:08:46 +0800
Subject: [Zope] zope-2.6.1+zeo-2.0.2 not trouble
In-Reply-To: <15995.30296.423787.130378@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <200303211108.05457.kedai@kedai.com.my> <15995.30296.423787.130378@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200303250908.46070.kedai@kedai.com.my>

On Saturday 22 March 2003 04:30, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote at 2003-3-21 11:08 +0800:
>  > ....
>  > running ./stop will only kill the parent process, i.e 17160 in the b=
elow
>  > example.  the other processes can only be killed with a kill -9 1716=
1.
>
> You find a corresponding problem report and patch in the collector:
>
>   Zope's shutdown implementation (new in 2.6.1) is broken.
>   It tries to close the database connections inside
>   the signal handler. As it acquires a lock for this,
>   a deadlock results when another thread helds the lock.
>
> That patch is very crude.
>

thanks dieter.  but the patch in the collector doesn't patch neatly fot t=
he=20
ClientStorage.py

i haven't looked at it yet, and am not sure whether i can patch it by han=
d.

> Toby has a more general solution in a CVS branch.

i have checked out zope2_6 branch, and hope that toby's solution is merge=
d=20
already.  if things still go wrong, i'll try that.  if things still go wr=
ong,=20
i'd have to revert to 2.5.1, unfortunately

>
> Search the archives for details.
>
>
> All the above is only about the 'cannot be killed other than by "kill -=
9"'.
> It does not address the hanging.
>
> We, too, see this behaviour -- but only under Solaris and
> not under Linux. We use ZEO 1 with Zope 2.6.1.

hope to hear from you when you solve this.
>
>
> Dieter
thanks



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 25 01:19:27 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:19:27 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zipfile and dtml output for dynamic openoffice docs creation
In-Reply-To: <3E7F4BCD.6050802@yahoo.com.ar>
References: <3E7F4BCD.6050802@yahoo.com.ar>
Message-ID: <3E7FAE9F.8040502@jcameroncooper.com>

> I'm learning Zope and Python. I'm trying to generate an openoffice 
> writer doc dynamically.
>
> I'm using a dtml method that, by now, has static content and outputs a 
> xml oo writer friendly string (oo format compliant).

Since you solved your zip file problem, I'll just make this simple 
observation:

Page Templates walk all over DTML syntax-wise if you actually get to 
generating OO docs dynamically.

          --jcc



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar 25 01:45:22 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:45:22 -0800
Subject: [Zope] lots of ZODB conflict errors
In-Reply-To: <3E7F8F8A.1080200@agmweb.ca>
References: <3E7F541D.8030005@neurobs.com> <3E7F8F8A.1080200@agmweb.ca>
Message-ID: <3E7FB4B2.6090000@neurobs.com>

Sorry for the multiple posts. My email client was acting up.
I wanted a generic method to do that, primarily because there dont seem 
to be any errors generated. I just see a lot of these when I peruse my 
logs. Hence I excluded the system information. Googling the lists doesnt 
seem to come up with any relevant posts (although I know the question 
has been asked in the past, just dont know when, only 4 hits on 
google:zope lists)

These seem to happen on both Zope 2.5.2 and 2.6.1 both running on RH 8.0 
on Athlon SMP systems.

Is it a caching vs loading problem?? Increasing the cache size did seem 
to reduce the problem but not by much.

TIA
AM

Andy McKay wrote:

> AM wrote:
>
>> Any way to reduce these?
>
>
> Assem, looks you have sent the same email 3 times.
>
> You haven't stated:
>
> - your zope version
> - your python version
> - your applications (CMF for example)
> - your platform
> - the errors
> - the error conditions (when they occur)
>
> Do you really expect a useful answer?



-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar 25 01:48:02 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:48:02 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKOEAEDKAA.creiman@kefta.com>
References: <MHEAKIEGCFLDLMBODHDKOEAEDKAA.creiman@kefta.com>
Message-ID: <3E7FB552.7060607@neurobs.com>

The exported xml is almost 8 megs, takes a really long time. but I tried 
that and it works. I am not surprised because the zsyncer on the other 
machine (exactly similar except CallProfiler was installed on the 
problematic one) works fine. I removed the CallProfiler product but it 
still shows up as broken on the Control Panel and that didnt fix the 
problem.

AM

Charlie Reiman wrote:

>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of AM
>>Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:49 PM
>>Cc: Zope
>>Subject: Re: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
>>
>>
>>I downloaded the latest version, reinstalled it on both machines.
>>
>>It works on one and fails on the other:
>>
>>The error again:
>>
>><Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value:
>>Traceback (most recent call last):
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 150,
>>in publish_module
>>response = publish(request, module_name, after_list, debug=debug)
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line 114,
>>in publish
>>sys.exc_info()[2],
>>File "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
>>in zpublisher_exception_hook
>>log = aq_acquire(published, \'__error_log__\', containment=1)
>>AttributeError: manage_listObjects__error_log__
>>'>
>>
>>Any ideas anybody??
>>    
>>
>
>Have you tried manually exporting and importing the relevent section of the
>tree?  This is pretty much all zsyncer does so if that fails as well, you
>know zsyncer isn't the issue.
>
>
>
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-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From wim@dv-rec.com  Tue Mar 25 07:56:37 2003
From: wim@dv-rec.com (Wim Bekker)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:56:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Debugging
Message-ID: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8CA@SERVER01>

Hi,

I'm trying to debug my Zope installation. But I'm failing to do so. Does
anyone know a good way to do this?

Ps I use Zope on Windows.

Wim


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Tue Mar 25 08:16:59 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:16:59 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Evaluating Output of Scripts as HTML in DTML Pages
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C11D@AUHEXCH>

Hello all,

I'm not even sure where I can look for the answer to this problem.

I have a SQL table with a large number of variables. I have a data entry
form that uses the following logic about 30 times on a page - 
----------------------------
<dtml-let a=RA3_4 b=NRA3_4 t=TOT3_4>
<tr>
  <td />
  <td>3.4</td>
  <td class="row-label">
  <dtml-if "a+b==t"><span>
  <dtml-else><span class="error">
  </dtml-if>
  Cheques in System</span></td>
  <td><input type="text" dir="rtl" name="RA3_4"  value="<dtml-var a>"
size="12" maxlength="12" /></td>
  <td><input type="text" dir="rtl" name="NRA3_4" value="<dtml-var b>"
size="12" maxlength="12" /></td>
  <td><input type="text" dir="rtl" name="TOT3_4" value="<dtml-var t>"
size="12" maxlength="12" /></td>
</tr>
</dtml-let>
---------------------------

What I'd like to be able to do is create a Python script that returns the
above, AND I need the DTML document to recognise it as part of the code. The
above code snippet would be generated by a script, called as -

myParseDTML("3.4","Cheques in System", "RA3_4","NRA3_4", "TOT3_4")

This script would return the above code. My problem is, I can generate the
above code, but it's not evaluated within a DTML Method.


As a simple example, I have the following python script -
-------------
""" script name - testScript """
text="""
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>
"""
return text
-------------

How do I get the return value of this script to actually display the above
items in a DTML Method? 

(I hope I've explained this well)

Thanks in advance. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Samir.


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Tue Mar 25 08:33:55 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:33:55 +0400
Subject: [Zope] Evaluating Output of Scripts as HTML in DTML Pages
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C11E@AUHEXCH>

BTW perhaps there's a better way to achieve this that I haven't considered,
so please let me know. 

As for the (as yet non-existent) script I mention below -
myParseDTML("3.4","Cheques in System", "RA3_4","NRA3_4", "TOT3_4")

I was thinking I'd store a list (of lists) in the directory, where one of
the elements of the list would be the above.

Can I use an external method to generate the html? How?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Samir Mishra [mailto:SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:17
To: 'zope@zope.org'
Subject: [Zope] Evaluating Output of Scripts as HTML in DTML Pages


Hello all,

I'm not even sure where I can look for the answer to this problem.

I have a SQL table with a large number of variables. I have a data entry
form that uses the following logic about 30 times on a page - 
----------------------------
<dtml-let a=RA3_4 b=NRA3_4 t=TOT3_4>
<tr>
  <td />
  <td>3.4</td>
  <td class="row-label">
  <dtml-if "a+b==t"><span>
  <dtml-else><span class="error">
  </dtml-if>
  Cheques in System</span></td>
  <td><input type="text" dir="rtl" name="RA3_4"  value="<dtml-var a>"
size="12" maxlength="12" /></td>
  <td><input type="text" dir="rtl" name="NRA3_4" value="<dtml-var b>"
size="12" maxlength="12" /></td>
  <td><input type="text" dir="rtl" name="TOT3_4" value="<dtml-var t>"
size="12" maxlength="12" /></td>
</tr>
</dtml-let>
---------------------------

What I'd like to be able to do is create a Python script that returns the
above, AND I need the DTML document to recognise it as part of the code. The
above code snippet would be generated by a script, called as -

myParseDTML("3.4","Cheques in System", "RA3_4","NRA3_4", "TOT3_4")

This script would return the above code. My problem is, I can generate the
above code, but it's not evaluated within a DTML Method.


As a simple example, I have the following python script -
-------------
""" script name - testScript """
text="""
<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>
"""
return text
-------------

How do I get the return value of this script to actually display the above
items in a DTML Method? 

(I hope I've explained this well)

Thanks in advance. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Samir.

_______________________________________________
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http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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From fabio@hi-flier.com  Tue Mar 25 09:02:20 2003
From: fabio@hi-flier.com (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:02:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Metadata indexing
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325095102.00a8aff8@10.10.10.101>

Hi.
I am trying to use Zcatalog to index and search documents through their 
metadata.
All my documents must be provided some additional properties (metadata) and 
the search engine should be able to index and use this additional 
properties to select the documents. Is this possible with the Zope's search 
engine. Could you help me understanding how to do it?
Please, forgive me if this question sounds silly to some expert users, but 
I'm quite confused about how to use the Zcatalog functionalities because I 
did not find any updated document (I am using zope 2.6) that could help me 
understanding how it works.
Thank you



From sabaini@inode.at  Tue Mar 25 09:23:58 2003
From: sabaini@inode.at (Peter Sabaini)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:23:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Metadata indexing
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325095102.00a8aff8@10.10.10.101>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325095102.00a8aff8@10.10.10.101>
Message-ID: <3E80202E.50203@inode.at>

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http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/SearchingZCatalog.stx

should provide some answers

hth,
peter.

Fabio Rolando wrote:
> Hi.
> I am trying to use Zcatalog to index and search documents through their 
> metadata.
> All my documents must be provided some additional properties (metadata) 
> and the search engine should be able to index and use this additional 
> properties to select the documents. Is this possible with the Zope's 
> search engine. Could you help me understanding how to do it?
> Please, forgive me if this question sounds silly to some expert users, 
> but I'm quite confused about how to use the Zcatalog functionalities 
> because I did not find any updated document (I am using zope 2.6) that 
> could help me understanding how it works.
> Thank you
> 

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From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Tue Mar 25 09:29:25 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:59:25 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Integrating products with zope.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12E9@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,
=20
Can Zope be integrated with a third party product( Something which
doesn't come under the product list in zope site)? How should I go
about? Please guide. Thank you.
=20
Regards,
Paul.

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From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Tue Mar 25 09:40:54 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:10:54 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Vignette with zope.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12EB@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,
=20
Can I use Vignette CMS with Zope? Is there any adapter available to
integrate zope with third party content management products? Also I want
to use a third party search engine. Any pointers would be of great help.
Thank you.
=20
Regards,
Paul.

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From johanc@easypublisher.com  Tue Mar 25 09:44:47 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:44:47 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Integrating products with zope.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12E9@kecmsg03.ad.infos
 ys.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325093633.0290e100@mail.torped.se>

At 14:59 2003-03-25 +0530, Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj said:
>Hi,
>
>Can Zope be integrated with a third party product( Something which
>doesn't come under the product list in zope site)? How should I go
>about? Please guide. Thank you.

How long is a stick?

Really I thing you need to provide more information about what
third party product you want to integrate.

For what it's worth, Zope doesn't restrain you fro integrating anything.
Actually it's quite easy to integrate things using Python.
The limitations usually lies with the third party product and what support
for integration it has.

You can use XML-RPC, there are also modules for Soap, SQL, bindings to 
C/C++ libraries,
to some extent Perl and JSP (?), you could use COM (on Windows), you could 
possibly
use XPCOM or you can let Zope call binaries or use traditional protocols 
like FTP or HTTP.

The most common way and imo robust way to integrate third party applications
is either through a shard SQL server or a binding to C/C++ libraries.

One important factor when integrating components and libraries are that the 
third party
must (should) supply a thread safe component/library.
For instance integrating with MS Word via COM isn't really recommended because
it's not thread-safe (not to my knowledge any way).

Best Regards,
Johan Carlsson


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Easy Publisher Developers Team
Johan Carlsson
johanc@easypublisher.com

Mail:
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From gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it  Tue Mar 25 16:49:33 2003
From: gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it (Gilles)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:49:33 -0600
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
Message-ID: <000901c2f2ee$83a93d40$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>

Hello

I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites (it was looking
more promising than the external editor).
Up to now I have tried the Jedit Dav plugin and skunkdav. Skundav seams much
more useful.

Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have used?

Thanks

Gilles



From Mbetti@inf.unitn.it  Tue Mar 25 10:01:02 2003
From: Mbetti@inf.unitn.it (Maurizio Betti)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:01:02 +0100
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
In-Reply-To: <000901c2f2ee$83a93d40$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030325105838.01c38908@pop.inf.unitn.it>

At 10.49 25/03/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites (it was looking
>more promising than the external editor).
>Up to now I have tried the Jedit Dav plugin and skunkdav. Skundav seams much
>more useful.
>
>Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have used?
>
>Thanks
>
>Gilles

Have you tried ExternalEditor? It's simple to use and you can modify zope 
objects choosing your preferred editor.

http://www.zope.org/Members/Caseman/ExternalEditor

bye, Mio



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Mar 25 10:07:46 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:07:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Metadata indexing
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325095102.00a8aff8@10.10.10.101>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325095102.00a8aff8@10.10.10.101>
Message-ID: <b5p9q6$h8n$1@main.gmane.org>

Fabio Rolando wrote:
> I am trying to use Zcatalog to index and search documents through their 
> metadata.

Create a new index (Catalog->Indexes) for every metadata-item you want 
to index in the ZCatalog. The id of the index must be the same as the 
metadata-name.

> Please, forgive me if this question sounds silly to some expert users, 
> but I'm quite confused about how to use the Zcatalog functionalities 
> because I did not find any updated document (I am using zope 2.6) that 
> could help me understanding how it works.

You should read the ZopeBook for Zope 2.6:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/SearchingZCatalog.stx

-mj




From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Mar 25 10:21:51 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:21:51 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Vignette with zope.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12EB@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12EB@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <3E802DBF.9050001@regebro.nu>

Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Can I use Vignette CMS with Zope? Is there any adapter available to
> integrate zope with third party content management products? Also I want
> to use a third party search engine. Any pointers would be of great help.

My first question is "Why?"
The second question is "How?" :) In what way where you planning to 
integrate them?



From Jos.van.der.Vleuten@transiciel.nl  Tue Mar 25 10:19:40 2003
From: Jos.van.der.Vleuten@transiciel.nl (Jos van der Vleuten)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:19:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] html space(&nbsp;) in string
Message-ID: <68DBCDF8459BEB4B8268B38745E10BED1C9E6F@uccms01.ucc.intern>

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Hello all,

The following code-snippet:
        global space python:['&nbsp;;'];
        global str_html_space python:space[0]*new_len_title;
would be rendered in html as: ...........&amp;nbsp;........
How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space (&nbsp;)?

regards, 
Jos van der Vleuten



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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Hello all,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The following code-snippet:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; global space python:['&amp;nbsp;;'];</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">would be rendered in html as: ...........&amp;amp;nbsp;........</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space (&amp;nbsp;)?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">regards, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Jos van der Vleuten<U></U></FONT><U></U><U></U>
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From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Tue Mar 25 11:01:44 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:01:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change properties
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B7@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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Hi

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I think i have tried almost all, and i still can't solve a simple
problem. I have made a ZClass with some extra properties, and I have to
make a form in a DTMLMethod which can change the values of the
properties. I have made the form and have tried to make the
"update-script" like this:

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<dtml-var standard_html_header>

<dtml-call
"propertysheets.zpro.manage_changeProperties({'beskrivelse':'new_beskriv
else'})">

<dtml-var standard_html_footer>

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There are no errors, but the property is not changed.

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What am i doing wrong???

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Thank's in advance

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can&#8217;t
solve a simple problem. I have made a ZClass with some extra properties, =
and I have
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properties. I
have made the form and have tried to make the =
&#8220;update-script&#8221; like
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style=3D'font-size:
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standard_html_header&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&lt;dtml-call =
&quot;propertysheets.zpro.manage_changeProperties({'beskrivelse':'new_bes=
krivelse'})&quot;&gt;</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There are no errors, but the property is not =
changed.</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What am i doing wrong???</span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thank&#8217;s in advance</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Mar 25 11:05:13 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:05:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change properties
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B7@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B7@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <3E8037E9.3030308@regebro.nu>

Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> <dtml-call 
> "propertysheets.zpro.manage_changeProperties({'beskrivelse':'new_beskrivelse'})">

> There are no errors, but the property is not changed.

I don't know if thats the problem, but 
manage_changeProperties(beskrivelse='new_beskrivelse') is a simpler 
syntax, and I know it works. :)




From marinus@cs.utwente.nl  Tue Mar 25 11:27:24 2003
From: marinus@cs.utwente.nl (Ria Marinussen)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:27:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing pythonscripts in different branch
Message-ID: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027785@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>

Hi,

On my zope site I use some pythonscripts. I don't like them to be in the
root of my site, but can't figure out how to access them when they'r not in
the root.

For example the menu on top of my webpages is created depending on the main
branche of my site. I use a python script for that by including it in my
standard_dtml_header file like this:
<dtml-var expr="topmenu('branch1')">
 
The pythonscript "topmenu" is in the rootfolder of my site.

Is it possible to move this script to a folder "scripts" and access the
script on every page in my website? (How?)

(I could find ways of accessing/using pythonscripts from different locations
by URL in the Zope Book - feeding/vacinating hippos and stuff, but not in a
dtml-var)

Thanks,
Ria Marinussen



From =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Tue Mar 25 11:35:05 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:35:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing pythonscripts in different branch
In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027785@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027785@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
Message-ID: <14517136450.20030325123505@elvix.com>

On  Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:27:24 +0100 GMT (..12:27 where i live(GMT+1) )
Ria Marinussen asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
RM> On my zope site I use some pythonscripts. I don't like them to be in =
the
RM> root of my site, but can't figure out how to access them when they'r =
not in
RM> the root.
...
RM> I use a python script for that by including it in my
RM> standard_dtml_header file like this:
RM> <dtml-var expr=3D"topmenu('branch1')">
...
RM> Is it possible to move this script to a folder "scripts" and access t=
he
RM> script on every page in my website? (How?)

<dtml-var expr=3D"scripts.topmenu('branch1')">
everything inside expr=3D"" is evaluated as a python expression

if you are not using expr=3D"", the following should also work
(although not with the explicit paramter-passing):
<dtml-with scripts>
    <dtml-var topmenu>
</dtml-with>


--
Geir B=E6kholt



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Tue Mar 25 11:34:18 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:34:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Accessing pythonscripts in different branch
In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027785@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027785@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
Message-ID: <b5pesd$744$1@main.gmane.org>

Ria Marinussen wrote:
> On my zope site I use some pythonscripts. I don't like them to be in the
> root of my site, but can't figure out how to access them when they'r not in
> the root.
> 
> For example the menu on top of my webpages is created depending on the main
> branche of my site. I use a python script for that by including it in my
> standard_dtml_header file like this:
> <dtml-var expr="topmenu('branch1')">
>  
> The pythonscript "topmenu" is in the rootfolder of my site.
> 
> Is it possible to move this script to a folder "scripts" and access the
> script on every page in my website? (How?)

- Create Folder 'scripts'
- Move PythonScript 'topmenu' to Folder 'scripts'
- Change standard_html_header to:

  <dtml-var expr="scripts.topmenu('branch1')">

HTH,
-mj




From jean@upfrontsystems.co.za  Tue Mar 25 12:09:21 2003
From: jean@upfrontsystems.co.za (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:09:21 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Communicating between ZEO master and client over SSL?
Message-ID: <3E8046F1.7060606@upfrontsystems.co.za>

Hi all

We want a ZOE master storage at one site, and a ZEO client
at a remote site. We want to secure the connection between
the client and the server. The best I could think up so far,
is to set up an ssh tunnel between the two sites, forwarding
a port on the local machine to one on the remote machine.

But I'm sure there must be a best practice on how this should
be done. Could someone point me at a HOWTO? I've found Pound,
and Infrae's
http://www.infrae.com/products/silva/docs/SysAdmin/SquidNotes
but these look like they refer to a cluster of ZEO nodes at
*one* site.

-- 
Jean Jordaan
http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za



From jens@zope.com  Tue Mar 25 12:50:11 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 07:50:11 -0500
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
In-Reply-To: <000901c2f2ee$83a93d40$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>
Message-ID: <51222C05-5EC0-11D7-BFA3-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

my choice: cadaver with vim as the editor. that is command-line, but 
works beautifully.

jens


On Tuesday, Mar 25, 2003, at 11:49 US/Eastern, Gilles wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites (it was 
> looking
> more promising than the external editor).
> Up to now I have tried the Jedit Dav plugin and skunkdav. Skundav 
> seams much
> more useful.
>
> Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have 
> used?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gilles



From lsh@wo.cz  Tue Mar 25 08:38:44 2003
From: lsh@wo.cz (Jaroslav Lukesh)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:38:44 -0000
Subject: [Zope] Add File
Message-ID: <3E6B9A2F002CED46@stateless1.tiscali.cz> (added by postmaster@mail.tiscali.cz)

Hi,

I am sorry, it is miss-writted. (1) is FTP access

Regards

JL.

----------
Odes=EDlatel: glxrd <glxrd@compuserve.de>
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 08:47, Jaroslav Lukesh wrote:
> : Odes=C3=ADlatel: glxrd <glxrd@compuserve.de>
> : My users may have to upload a large number of files to Zope and they
> : would prefer to do so at once.
>=20
> You could use
>=20
> 1. FTL access
> 2. ZipFolder product
>=20
Thanks.
(2) is useful
Do you have a pointer for (1) ?



From kamps@in.tum.de  Tue Mar 25 13:19:14 2003
From: kamps@in.tum.de (Marc de Kamps)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:19:14 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Using a ZSQL method from a Python script
Message-ID: <EGEBKEDBLBFAGFFLCJOIGEPCCAAA.kamps@in.tum.de>

Hi,

I have made a ZSQL method, which
adds a line to a table, much like
the hire_employee method in 'the Zope book'.
When I test it, an html form appears, I can
enter all data, submit.

I have also implemented the list_all_employees
ZSQL method, and when I test it, I can see that
in fact the data have landed in the table correctly.
So far, so good.

>From what I understand in the Zope book,
I can then add new employees from a Python
script like this:

------------------
context.hire_employee(42,'bob','uncle',50000.00)
return "Done"
------------------

I get an internal server error 500, however,
when I hit the test button.

The hire_employee method and the Python
script are in the same folder.

What am I overlooking ?

Thanks, 
	Marc


From ed@leafe.com  Tue Mar 25 13:21:38 2003
From: ed@leafe.com (Ed Leafe)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:21:38 -0500
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
In-Reply-To: <000901c2f2ee$83a93d40$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>
Message-ID: <B5DF68FE-5EC4-11D7-A273-003065B11E84@leafe.com>

On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 11:49  AM, Gilles wrote:

> I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites (it was 
> looking
> more promising than the external editor).
> Up to now I have tried the Jedit Dav plugin and skunkdav. Skundav 
> seams much
> more useful.
>
> Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have 
> used?

	I use BBEdit on Mac OS X. Works beautifully with WebDAV and my Zope 
installation running on a Linux server.

      ___/
     /
    __/
   /
  ____/
  Ed Leafe
  http://leafe.com/
  http://opentech.leafe.com



From marinus@cs.utwente.nl  Tue Mar 25 13:35:01 2003
From: marinus@cs.utwente.nl (Ria Marinussen)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:35:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing pythonscripts in different branch
Message-ID: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027788@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>

Hi Geir,

thanks for your help... I tried this but got an error.=20
And therefor thought this sollution was incorrect, and tried different
things with seemingly the same error...

Now I noticed that the error I got was from another call to the script =
(in
the root - but it was moved).
So I was looking at the wrong place...=20

Another *blush* moment...

Ria


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir B=E6kholt [mailto:lists@elvix.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:35 PM
> To: Ria Marinussen on The Zope Mailinglist
> Cc: Zope mailinglist
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Accessing pythonscripts in different branch
>=20
>=20
> On  Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:27:24 +0100 GMT (..12:27 where i live(GMT+1) =
)
> Ria Marinussen asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:
> RM> On my zope site I use some pythonscripts. I don't like=20
> them to be in the
> RM> root of my site, but can't figure out how to access them=20
> when they'r not in
> RM> the root.
> ...
> RM> I use a python script for that by including it in my
> RM> standard_dtml_header file like this:
> RM> <dtml-var expr=3D"topmenu('branch1')">
> ...
> RM> Is it possible to move this script to a folder "scripts"=20
> and access the
> RM> script on every page in my website? (How?)
>=20
> <dtml-var expr=3D"scripts.topmenu('branch1')">
> everything inside expr=3D"" is evaluated as a python expression
>=20
> if you are not using expr=3D"", the following should also work
> (although not with the explicit paramter-passing):
> <dtml-with scripts>
>     <dtml-var topmenu>
> </dtml-with>
>=20
>=20
> --
> Geir B=E6kholt
>=20


From jchilders_98@yahoo.com  Tue Mar 25 13:30:40 2003
From: jchilders_98@yahoo.com (Jeff Childers)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:30:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Objects
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>

I'm starting to get the "big picture" but I'm still a little fuzzy on the 
details, particularly about objects and the ZODB. I'm hoping that someone 
can give me some brief pointers to where the answers the these questions 
lie. I have read a *bunch* of Zope doc and I'm pretty handy with Python.

1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?

I get the persistent object thing. Very cool. So let's say I want to write 
a billing system. I have customer objects, invoice objects, and payment 
objects. [ Customer [ Invoices [Payments] ] ].

a) Where do I put the code that defines each custom class? Scripts seem to 
be for def-functions. Do I have to put this outside Zope?

b) Do I use ZCatalogs to 'index' my objects so I can query them similar to 
SQL? If so, how/where do I add my custom classes to the ZCatalog?

2) How do I instantiate and persist (through the session) a particular 
instance of the class from the ZODB (i.e. a certain customer)?

I realize these are big questions. Any pointer toward answers, even which 
documentation I should be reading, would be helpful and greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeff Childers




From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Mar 25 13:33:29 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:33:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] call a product from index_html
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF8DE@PROSERV>

Thanks Dieter, I'll check 2.6 out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:58 PM
To: McDonnell, Larry
Cc: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Zope] call a product from index_html


McDonnell, Larry wrote at 2003-3-24 08:43 -0500:
 > Is there a way to call products from index_html?

"Calling a product" seems wrong terminology.

I expect, you mean "access a product", e.g. to construct an instance
of one of its classes. This looks like

   someObjectManager.manage_addProduct[ProductName].....

       
 > I am looking to use
 > ExtFile. The product is what I want but I want to avoid users having to
log
 > into the management interface. Can this be done?

Read about proxie roles in the Zope Book (2.6. edition).


Dieter


From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Tue Mar 25 13:37:20 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:37:20 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Communicating between ZEO master and client over SSL?
In-Reply-To: <3E8046F1.7060606@upfrontsystems.co.za>
References: <3E8046F1.7060606@upfrontsystems.co.za>
Message-ID: <200303251337.20306.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Tuesday 25 March 2003 12:09 pm, Jean Jordaan wrote:

> We want a ZOE master storage at one site, and a ZEO client
> at a remote site. We want to secure the connection between
> the client and the server. The best I could think up so far,
> is to set up an ssh tunnel between the two sites, forwarding
> a port on the local machine to one on the remote machine.

Or a VPN.... I have previously used CIPE on linux.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Tue Mar 25 13:50:47 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:50:47 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Using a ZSQL method from a Python script
In-Reply-To: <EGEBKEDBLBFAGFFLCJOIGEPCCAAA.kamps@in.tum.de>
References: <EGEBKEDBLBFAGFFLCJOIGEPCCAAA.kamps@in.tum.de>
Message-ID: <963356436.20030325145047@elvix.com>

On  Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:19:14 +0100 GMT (..14:19 where i live(GMT+1) )
Marc de Kamps asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:

MdK> I have made a ZSQL method, which
MdK> adds a line to a table, much like
MdK> the hire_employee method in 'the Zope book'.
MdK> When I test it, an html form appears, I can
MdK> enter all data, submit.
...
MdK> From what I understand in the Zope book,
MdK> I can then add new employees from a Python
MdK> script like this:

MdK> context.hire_employee(42,'bob','uncle',50000.00)
MdK> return "Done"

parameters have to be passed explicitly to SQL methods :
context.hire_employee(eid=3D42,name=3D'bob',relation=3D'uncle',salary=3D5=
0000.00)
return " that is better :) "

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Mar 25 14:01:53 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:01:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Objects
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E806151.1040002@regebro.nu>

Jeff Childers wrote:
> 1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?

The ones you can select from the "Add..." menu.

> I get the persistent object thing. Very cool. So let's say I want to 
> write a billing system. I have customer objects, invoice objects, and 
> payment objects. [ Customer [ Invoices [Payments] ] ].
> 
> a) Where do I put the code that defines each custom class? Scripts seem 
> to be for def-functions. Do I have to put this outside Zope?

You can do it inside Zope with ZClasses, but I'd recommend you to do it 
outside of Zope in so called "python classes". This are located in 
lib/python/Products or just /Products.

Start with the "BoringProduct" example and go from there.
Theres a some about this in the Zope Book too.

> b) Do I use ZCatalogs to 'index' my objects so I can query them similar 
> to SQL? If so, how/where do I add my custom classes to the ZCatalog?

You subclass them from a CatalogAware class, and call reindex each time 
they have changed.

> 2) How do I instantiate and persist (through the session) a particular 
> instance of the class from the ZODB (i.e. a certain customer)?

Instantiate:

customer = CustomerClass()

You store it persistently by setting the new object as an attribute on 
another persistent object. How you do this depends on your other 
persistent object. You also need to subclass your class from 
Persistance.Base. The most trivial example is:

folder[customer_name] = customer # where customer is the CustomerClass
                                  # instance you created above

Yes, it is really that simple.

> I realize these are big questions.

Well, if you liked Zope before, you'll soon like it more, because with 
Zope, this is small, simple questions. :)



From marklists@mceahern.com  Tue Mar 25 14:09:22 2003
From: marklists@mceahern.com (Mark McEahern)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:09:22 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Objects
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JHEOKEOOLIGLDHCMAHMOOEBMHEAA.marklists@mceahern.com>

[Jeff Childers]

> I'm starting to get the "big picture" but I'm still a little fuzzy
> on the details, particularly about objects and the ZODB. I'm hoping
> that someone can give me some brief pointers to where the answers
> the these questions lie. I have read a *bunch* of Zope doc and I'm
> pretty handy with Python.
> 
> 1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?

I'm fairly new to Zope, although I've written some Zope Products.  My
sense is that there are two answers to your question:

  * ZClasses
  * Products

and that the best bet in the long-run, especially if you feel
comfortable with Python, is to skip ZClasses altogether and focus on
grokking Products.

> I get the persistent object thing. Very cool. So let's say I want to
> write a billing system. I have customer objects, invoice objects,
> and payment objects. [ Customer [ Invoices [Payments] ] ].

My guess is that you'd write a Product, BillingSystem.  The
BillingSystem Product would include a variety of classes:

  * A top-level container; e.g., Billing
  * Customer
  * Invoice
  * Payment

Only the top-level container would be addable to other Zope containers
(folderish objects).  Once you adding an instance of Billing, it would
have a slightly customized manage_main (I'm probably misspelling
that).  From Billing's manage_main, you could add Customers.  From a
Customer's management screens, you could add Invoices.  And so on.

> a) Where do I put the code that defines each custom class?  Scripts
> seem to be for def-functions. Do I have to put this outside Zope?

Yes, that's your best bet.  The common wisdom seems to be: Write this
as if it's just Python, then add a light wrapper for Zope.  Of course,
the devil can sometimes be in the details.

> b) Do I use ZCatalogs to 'index' my objects so I can query them
> similar to SQL? If so, how/where do I add my custom classes to the
> ZCatalog?

Good question.

> 2) How do I instantiate and persist (through the session) a
> particular instance of the class from the ZODB (i.e. a certain
> customer)?

The thing about PersistentObject is that you don't really have to do
anything for it to persist aside from instantiating it in Zope.  Isn't
that cool?

> I realize these are big questions. Any pointer toward answers, even
> which documentation I should be reading, would be helpful and
> greatly appreciated.

I think the short answer is that you want to investigate Products.

I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable about the specifics follows up.

Cheers,

// m
-



From gary@modernsongs.com  Tue Mar 25 14:35:21 2003
From: gary@modernsongs.com (Gary Poster)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:35:21 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope 3 super-mini newsletter # 7
Message-ID: <3E806929.6060506@modernsongs.com>

WELCOME TO THE ZOPE 3 NEWSLETTER: ISSUE 7 (25 MAR 2003)

   Welcome to the seventh Zope 3 newsletter.  Information about Zope 3
   and newsletter contributions and suggestions can be found at the
   bottom of this newsletter.

GLOSSARY FOR THE UNINITIATED

   Encounter a term in this newsletter you don't know?  Try this
   glossary:  http://dev.zope.org/Zope3/NewsletterGlossary

NEWS SNIPPETS:

  - Tres Seaver is leading a Berlin DZUG Sprint this week.  The team will
    produce a demonstration content management application.  See
    http://www.zope.org/Zope3/DZUGSprint for more information,
    including a list of participants.

  - Jim Fulton is leading a Washington, DC sprint on Monday and Tuesday
    of this week prior to PyCon.

ALBERTAS AGEJEVAS: Locale Support and On-line Help

   We (Codeworks) were working on Zope3 as the need of our project asked.

   One thing we've done some work on was local authentication: we made
   the global security manager's getPrincipal() return a wrapped
   principal instead of a string, and fixed a bug or two.

   Also, I've done some renaming in zope.app.traversal as per SteveA's
   suggestion: now getPhysicalRoot, getPhysicalPath and locationAsUnicode
   are called simply getRoot, getPath and canonicalPath.

   Also we happened to interfere with branch merges of ZODB folks with
   a cunningly timed whitespace cleanup.  <wink>

R. DAVID MURRAY: Authentication Service optimization and polish

   I just started work on trying to define a new Field type which is
   pretty much entirely defined by a Schema.  The idea is basically
   to allow a Field to represent a complex object defined by Schema
   defined sub-Fields, and allow for an automated way (Widget) to
   render a sub-form.  I've just started, so I'm not even sure I'm
   headed in the right direction.  My use case, by the way, is an
   "Address" Field.  (In my application, the Address field will be
   backed by a database of Address objects implementing the IAddress
   schema.) Comments welcome.

CONTRIBUTING

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   As you can see, casual and quick news items are acceptable and even
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From ashleylloyd@hotmail.com  Tue Mar 25 14:41:05 2003
From: ashleylloyd@hotmail.com (Ashley Lloyd)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:41:05 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: Simple Formatting floats in DTML
Message-ID: <BAY2-F823yMJiQTyfPe00036429@hotmail.com>

Ok, thanks very much for your reply.

Kind regards

Ashley



From: Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de>
To: "Ashley Lloyd" <ashleylloyd@hotmail.com>
CC: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Newbie: Simple Formatting floats in DTML
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:55:35 +0100

Ashley Lloyd wrote at 2003-3-24 11:48 +0000:
  > I know this is a very simple question, but after searching the zope site 
and
  > lists I still have not found an answer.
  >
  > I need to format a great deal of floating point numbers for accountants 
to
  > read, so need them using thousands_commas and if they are negative, 
display
  > them in parentheses without the - sign.
  > eg 1004 = 1,004.00; -25436345.74 = (25,436,345.74)
  >
  > I could write a python script to do this, but I thought there was 
probably a
  > parameter, similar to thousands_commas, (like negative_brackets, say) 
that
  > could to this for me.
  >
  > Can anyone confirm this either way?

You need to write the script for the "negative" handling.

You can use the "thousands_comma" from "Products.PythonScripts.standard".


Dieter


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From Oliver@tekk.dk  Tue Mar 25 14:53:01 2003
From: Oliver@tekk.dk (Oliver Marx)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:53:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope 3 super-mini newsletter # 7
In-Reply-To: <3E806929.6060506@modernsongs.com>
References: <3E806929.6060506@modernsongs.com>
Message-ID: <3E806D4D.40301@tekk.dk>

Super-mini...

Is that like a big-small ? *lol*

\Oliver

-- 
Direktør / Managing Director
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From elabuschagne@gmsonline.co.za  Tue Mar 25 15:08:21 2003
From: elabuschagne@gmsonline.co.za (Etienne Labuschagne)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:08:21 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Role and-ing, rather than or-ing?
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325165102.00a6b210@esrimail>

Here is my scenario:

I have a folder Acme in my portal (and many other companies' folders - see 
great ASCII art at the end of message ;).  Only employees of Acme should be 
able to view Acme and all it's sub folders.  So, I assign the View right to 
the User role in folder Acme.  Now I must give all the employees of Acme 
the local role User to give them access to Acme's folder. So far, so good.

Now I want users of the site to be able to pay a fee to get access to 
"special" resources.  For instance, Johnny is given the local role User in 
the folder Acme (he is an employee), but also the global role, PaidUser as 
he paid for access to special resources.  This should give him access to 
special resources in the public parts of the site AND special resources 
under Acme's folder.

In the public parts (which is not a specific company's sub folder), I 
assign the View right to PaidUser in the public folder.  I assign the View 
right to both User AND PaidUser in the special resources folder under 
Acme.  My problem is that the folder will allow people with User role OR 
PaidUser role to view the folder, not people with User role AND PaidUser role.

The only solution I see is the moment I upgrade Johnny from User to 
PaidUser, I must walk through the site and find all the folder where he has 
the local role User, then change that to PaidUser.  This is quite a pain 
and doesn't feel like a great idea.

Any better suggestions?

Thanks
Etienne


ROOT ------ Acme ------ AcmeSpecial
	  |
	  |
	  -----Public ------ Public Special
             |
             |
             -----Slacme ------- SlacmeSpecial


Johnny is user on Acme, and PaidUser globally.  I would like to mark 
AcmeSpecial's view right only for people with BOTH User AND SpecialUser, 
this doesn't seem possible in Zope's security model.  PublicSpecial will 
only be marked as Viewable for PaidUser.  So Johnny should be able to see: 
Acme, AcmeSpecial, Public, PublicSpecial, but not Slacme and SlacmeSpecial.





From einjen@nvg.ntnu.no  Tue Mar 25 15:20:31 2003
From: einjen@nvg.ntnu.no (Einar =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E6ss?= Jensen)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:20:31 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change properties
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B7@server1.bkinformatik.
 dk>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325155639.02d010e0@pop.nvg.ntnu.no>

At 12:01 25.03.2003 +0100, Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
>I think i have tried almost all, and i still cant solve a simple problem. 
>I have made a ZClass with some extra properties, and I have to make a form 
>in a DTMLMethod which can change the values of the properties. I have made 
>the form and have tried to make the update-scriptlike this:
>
>
>
><dtml-var standard_html_header>
>
><dtml-call 
>"propertysheets.zpro.manage_changeProperties({'beskrivelse':'new_beskrivelse'})">
>
><dtml-var standard_html_footer>

I ran across the same probmel with my zclasses.
with python i did this when I create the zclass:

container[name].propertysheets.egenskaper.manage_changeProperties(navn = 
completeName)

works as it should.

so i guess you should try something like this:

<dtml-call "propertysheets.zpro.manage_changeProperties(beskrivelse = 
new_beskrivelse)">

( I tested it and it works very nice with my zclass)


Einar




From tpassin@mitretek.org  Tue Mar 25 15:22:35 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:22:35 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Evaluating Output of Scripts as HTML in DTML Pages
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C900@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Samir Mishra]
> I have a SQL table with a large number of variables. I have a=20
> data entry
> form that uses the following logic about 30 times on a page -=20
> ----------------------------
[snipped]
> ---------------------------
>=20
> What I'd like to be able to do is create a Python script that=20
> returns the
> above, AND I need the DTML document to recognise it as part=20
> of the code.

You should not be using Python to write markup.  You should have Python
compute and return parameters to a DTML method which would then
constrcut the form you want.  This division of labor will work much
better, and be easier to understand and maintain, than getting Python to
write the markup directly (which certainly can be done, but is best not
done).

For example, the Python script could return a dictionary of values,
which your DTML method would insert into your form template.

Cheers,

Tom P


From tpassin@mitretek.org  Tue Mar 25 15:28:02 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:28:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] html space(&nbsp;) in string
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C903@email1.mitretek.org>

[Jos van der Vleuten]

> The following code-snippet:=20
>        global space python:['&nbsp;;'];=20
>        global str_html_space python:space[0]*new_len_title;=20
> would be rendered in html as: ...........&amp;nbsp;........=20
> How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space
(&nbsp;)?=20

use chr(38) for the ampersand -

chr(38) + 'nbsp;']

Cheers,

Tom P


From jean@upfrontsystems.co.za  Tue Mar 25 15:29:32 2003
From: jean@upfrontsystems.co.za (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:29:32 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Communicating between ZEO master and client over SSL?
In-Reply-To: <200303251337.20306.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <3E8046F1.7060606@upfrontsystems.co.za> <200303251337.20306.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <3E8075DC.4030405@upfrontsystems.co.za>

>>to set up an ssh tunnel between the two sites, forwarding
>>a port on the local machine to one on the remote machine.
> 
> Or a VPN.... I have previously used CIPE on linux.

OK, will investigate. Looking around for VPN software, I also
found  http://openvpn.sourceforge.net/

-- 
Jean Jordaan
http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za



From einjen@nvg.ntnu.no  Tue Mar 25 15:46:42 2003
From: einjen@nvg.ntnu.no (Einar =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E6ss?= Jensen)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:46:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325164633.02d4a758@pop.nvg.ntnu.no>

At 10:49 25.03.2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Hello
>
>I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites (it was looking
>more promising than the external editor).
>Up to now I have tried the Jedit Dav plugin and skunkdav. Skundav seams much
>more useful.
>
>Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have used?

Klient: the built in one for winNT/win2000/winXP works good enough. Remeber 
to start zope with option: -W [portnumber]
and connect with webdav this way:
http://zopeserver.com:[portnumber]/folder
and NOT the standard portnumber 8080

With Windows: I have only tried Dreamweaver, but it works fine (as long as 
you fiddle a littlte with something called "PUT_factory" (an external 
method which auto-creates the object-types you want)).
also: Dreamweaver can not have filenames without ".html" or other filename 
endings (stupid, stupid, stupid).

the locking-mechanism between dreamweaver and zope was not easy to figure 
out, put eventually, that also works ok (you have to remember to check in 
and out files).

I'm going to test Golive the next couple of weeks. It may prove a better 
design-tool.

BTW: use zope templates and not dtml-methods/documents. I have not, and I 
am starting to regret.

Best regards
Einar jensen



From Tejash.Patel@dowjones.com  Tue Mar 25 16:08:11 2003
From: Tejash.Patel@dowjones.com (Patel, Tejash)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 11:08:11 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Need a product
Message-ID: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD0@sbkmxsmb06>

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Guys,

I am looking for a product that does the following:

After loaded: When you create that product it will create a folder not and
item.

When you view that product you have a option to upload other types of
content on to it.

ie: html, dtml, pt  and so on. I guess it similar to the ZMI option of add a
product from the drop down list,

I need to create a customize version of it. I guess, any help out there.

Thanks



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From alet@librelogiciel.com  Tue Mar 25 16:11:19 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:11:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Need a product
In-Reply-To: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD0@sbkmxsmb06>
References: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD0@sbkmxsmb06>
Message-ID: <20030325161119.GA25437@mail.librelogiciel.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:08:11AM -0500, Patel, Tejash wrote:
> 
> ie: html, dtml, pt  and so on. I guess it similar to the ZMI 
> option of add a product from the drop down list, 
> 
> I need to create a customize version of it. I guess, any help out 
> there. 

Your best bet is to inherit from ObjectManager or from Folder.

hth

Jerome Alet


From Jos.van.der.Vleuten@transiciel.nl  Tue Mar 25 16:20:22 2003
From: Jos.van.der.Vleuten@transiciel.nl (Jos van der Vleuten)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:20:22 +0100
Subject: [Zope] html space(&nbsp;) in string
Message-ID: <68DBCDF8459BEB4B8268B38745E10BED1C9E70@uccms01.ucc.intern>

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chr(38) is also rendered as &amp;

regards,
Jos van der Vleuten

-----Original Message-----
From: Passin, Tom
To: Jos van der Vleuten; zope@zope.org
Sent: 25-3-2003 16:28
Subject: RE: [Zope] html space(&nbsp;) in string

[Jos van der Vleuten]

> The following code-snippet: 
>        global space python:['&nbsp;;']; 
>        global str_html_space python:space[0]*new_len_title; 
> would be rendered in html as: ...........&amp;nbsp;........ 
> How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space
(&nbsp;)? 

use chr(38) for the ampersand -

chr(38) + 'nbsp;']

Cheers,

Tom P

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>chr(38) is also rendered as &amp;amp;</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Jos van der Vleuten</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Passin, Tom</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Jos van der Vleuten; zope@zope.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: 25-3-2003 16:28</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [Zope] html space(&amp;nbsp;) in string</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>[Jos van der Vleuten]</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; The following code-snippet: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; global space python:['&amp;nbsp;;']; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; global str_html_space python:space[0]*new_len_title; </FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(&amp;nbsp;)? </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>use chr(38) for the ampersand -</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>chr(38) + 'nbsp;']</FONT>
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</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Tom P</FONT>
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 08:54:03 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 08:54:03 +0000
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <7AE10CD4-5D92-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
References: <7AE10CD4-5D92-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <1048582442.17048.14.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 00:49, Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
> the reason i use 2.2.2 is that 
> httpsconnection before 2.2.2 doesn't work with microsoft IIS. Which is 
> tough when your payment processor runs iis :-)
> 

You don't have to run Zope under 2.2 to get this functionality... you
can just hand off to 2.2 with popen3 as necessary.

Here's a quick howto: http://www.zope.org/Members/dylanr/secure_post

HTH,

Dylan





From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl  Tue Mar 25 16:33:25 2003
From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:33:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Session objects in zope
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=20
It is said when using ASP it is not encouraged to use many session =
variables.
=20
Is this the same for Zope?
=20
Greets,
=20
Daniel

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<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is =
said when=20
using&nbsp;ASP&nbsp;it is not encouraged to use many session=20
variables.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is =
this </FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>the same for Zope?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Greets,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D180033116-25032003><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Daniel</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Mar 25 17:12:09 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:12:09 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Expand Macros
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD98088AD@PROSERV>

Hi,

I have been looking at the "Examples" area and I found something in the
FileLibrary folder that allows the uploading of files. I got that part to
work in my document. What I cannot get working is the ability to display the
files in the "Files" folder. I get an error message:

Macro expansion failed
exceptions.AttributeError: macros

What do I need to turn on? It works in the example area. Also, I think this
error prevent me from seeing the files stored in the "Files" folder. Thanks.



Larry McDonnell

Proton Energy Systems
10 Technology Drive
Wallingford, CT 06492
(203) 678-2181
Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
www.protonenergy.com



From tpassin@mitretek.org  Tue Mar 25 17:38:05 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:38:05 -0500
Subject: [Zope] html space(&nbsp;) in string
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1C967@email1.mitretek.org>

[Jos van der Vleuten ]

> chr(38) is also rendered as &amp;=20

Too bad, I was hoping that the main problem was to get the ampersand
through to the processor in a well-formed way.  But it seems that the
downstream escaping is too simple-minded.

Cheers,

Tom P


From loper@ananzi.co.za  Tue Mar 25 16:58:22 2003
From: loper@ananzi.co.za (Gerhard Venter)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:58:22 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope and mod_proxy
Message-ID: <b5q1re$sfa$1@main.gmane.org>

Hi

Is there any Linux distribution that install Apache and Zope so that
caching with mod_proxy is there by default (as in 
http://www.zope.org/Members/rbeer/caching)

Gerhard




From lennart@regebro.nu  Tue Mar 25 17:57:39 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:57:39 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Objects
In-Reply-To: <3E806151.1040002@regebro.nu>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com> <3E806151.1040002@regebro.nu>
Message-ID: <3E809893.6070702@regebro.nu>

Lennart Regebro wrote:
> Jeff Childers wrote:
> 
>> 1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?
> 
> The ones you can select from the "Add..." menu.

As you no doubt realized, I misread that question as "Where are the data 
objects that are defined in Zope". Ah well. :)




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 10:14:52 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 10:14:52 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Mixing DTML and Python scripts
In-Reply-To: <200303241005.03610.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303241005.03610.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <1048587291.17048.34.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 09:05, Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> Are there any drawbacks to mix DTML methods and Python scripts, calling each 
> other, instead of keeping "pure" DTML methods ??

I would say that mixing DTML and Python is how DTML *should* be used. 
DTML is a great tool for templating and for calling other Zope
objects... it is typically the wrong tool for significant logic.  

Ideally (IMO) DTML should do little more than grab a dictionary and
insert its values into a template.  DTML's branch and loop constructs
should only be used to the degree that they are necessary to correctly
render an interface.

As for "calling each other" you'll probably see the best results if
you're using DTML to call Python, not vice versa.  It's usually easier
to maintain stuff set up this way.

HTH,

Dylan




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 10:30:25 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 10:30:25 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope and mod_proxy
In-Reply-To: <b5q1re$sfa$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b5q1re$sfa$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1048588224.17017.50.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:58, Gerhard Venter wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Is there any Linux distribution that install Apache and Zope so that
> caching with mod_proxy is there by default (as in 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/rbeer/caching)

I hope not. :-)

You probably shouldn't run Apache until you understand how to configure
it.  This is doubly true when running proxy services.  

Look at the Apache docs on mod_proxy and pay particular attention to the
part where they discuss securing your proxy.  You may want to Google
around for "open proxy" as well.


HTH,

Dylan



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Tue Mar 25 18:31:54 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:31:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Session objects in zope
In-Reply-To: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CBC@exchange.spc.nl>
References: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CBC@exchange.spc.nl>
Message-ID: <3E80A09A.7040203@neurobs.com>

Nope. (but then again that's M$)
Zope has a nice, simple and pretty flexible sessioning mechanism built=20
into it.
Look up the topic on Sessions in the zope book.

As far as the number of session vars that you can use, theres always a=20
limit, but it depends on how much RAM you got. On my production site I=20
use anywhere from 5-15 vars per user at different times (the system has=20
about 1.75 G RAM) and there have been no performance problems.

Perhaps some other ppl might be able to shed some light on how exactly=20
to estimate the limit based on your system. Software wise I have yet to=20
see any problems.

HTH
AM

Dani=EBl Hooymans wrote:

>Hi,
>=20
>It is said when using ASP it is not encouraged to use many session varia=
bles.
>=20
>Is this the same for Zope?
>=20
>Greets,
>=20
>Daniel
>
> =20
>


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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 Aseem Mohanty							  =20
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706=20
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  =09
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=09
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and =20
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes =20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20




From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 25 18:56:28 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:56:28 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Debugging
In-Reply-To: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8CA@SERVER01>
References: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8CA@SERVER01>
Message-ID: <3E80A65C.2030009@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm trying to debug my Zope installation. But I'm failing to do so. Does
>anyone know a good way to do this?
>  
>
Depends on what you need to debug. The usual way is to watch the logs 
and the tracebacks, and whatever symptoms are occuring. Use your gut, 
experience, the source, and the algorithm-prover in your head. If you 
want to get a little deeper, you can use good old printlining, both in 
the Zope core and in your own products. If it is a security problem or 
an FTP problem, there are products to give you more information on 
what's happening: search the lists, they come up often.

I'm not familiar with any IDEs or debugging tools -- not that there 
aren't any: I just don't use 'em. If you really want to do so, I'm sure 
you can setup up something like this with regular Python tools and use 
breakpoints or stepthrough or whatnot.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 25 19:03:28 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:03:28 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Evaluating Output of Scripts as HTML in DTML Pages
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C11D@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C11D@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <3E80A800.8050805@jcameroncooper.com>

...

>As a simple example, I have the following python script -
>-------------
>""" script name - testScript """
>text="""
><dtml-var standard_html_header>
><dtml-var standard_html_footer>
>"""
>return text
>-------------
>
>How do I get the return value of this script to actually display the above
>items in a DTML Method? 
>
Don't think of DTML as markup. It is not. It's a language, just like any 
programming language, despite it's taggish appearance.  One doesn't 
generally create code on the fly and then execute it. (Though I have 
seen this done, to the considerable consternation of everyone who had to 
deal with it.)

Rather write a Python script to calculate your values and return the 
results, and display this with DTML or ZPT. It'll be a lot more sane.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 25 19:12:30 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:12:30 -0600
Subject: [Zope] html space(&nbsp;) in string
In-Reply-To: <68DBCDF8459BEB4B8268B38745E10BED1C9E6F@uccms01.ucc.intern>
References: <68DBCDF8459BEB4B8268B38745E10BED1C9E6F@uccms01.ucc.intern>
Message-ID: <3E80AA1E.9000702@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
> The following code-snippet:
>         global space python:['&nbsp;;'];
>         global str_html_space python:space[0]*new_len_title;
> would be rendered in html as: ...........&amp;nbsp;........
> How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space (&nbsp;)?
>
If your rendering is in ZPT, you must use the 'structure' keyword to 
turn off the escaping.

          --jcc



From renfro@tntech.edu  Tue Mar 25 19:11:15 2003
From: renfro@tntech.edu (Mike Renfro)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:11:15 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope and mod_proxy
In-Reply-To: <1048588224.17017.50.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
References: <b5q1re$sfa$1@main.gmane.org> <1048588224.17017.50.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <20030325191115.GB22109@ch208h>

On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:30:25AM +0000, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:58, Gerhard Venter wrote:
> > Is there any Linux distribution that install Apache and Zope so that
> > caching with mod_proxy is there by default (as in 
> > http://www.zope.org/Members/rbeer/caching)
> 
> I hope not. :-)
> 
> You probably shouldn't run Apache until you understand how to configure
> it.  This is doubly true when running proxy services.  

If I recall correctly, Debian ships with most every Apache module
(either in the apache and apache-common packages, or in the various
libapache* packages), but doesn't enable them all by default. I've
certainly not been required to rebuild Apache for rewrite/proxy usage.

However, Debian is an acquired taste. But it's easier to deal with if
you go with the assumption that they know what they're doing more than
the average rpm packager (slight joke there).

-- 
Mike Renfro  / R&D Engineer, Center for Manufacturing Research,
931 372-3601 / Tennessee Technological University -- renfro@tntech.edu


From evan@4-am.com  Tue Mar 25 19:17:17 2003
From: evan@4-am.com (Evan Simpson)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:17:17 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: html space(&nbsp;) in string
In-Reply-To: <68DBCDF8459BEB4B8268B38745E10BED1C9E6F@uccms01.ucc.intern>
References: <68DBCDF8459BEB4B8268B38745E10BED1C9E6F@uccms01.ucc.intern>
Message-ID: <3E80AB3D.5080602@4-am.com>

Jos van der Vleuten wrote:
> The following code-snippet:
>         global space python:['&nbsp;;'];
>         global str_html_space python:space[0]*new_len_title;
> would be rendered in html as: ...........&amp;nbsp;........
> How can i solve this so that it will render a correct html space (&nbsp;)?

The problem is in the rendering, not the variable definition.  If you're 
inserting this string with tal:replace or tal:content, use the 
'structure' keyword to prevent HTML escaping.

Cheers,

Evan @ 4-am




From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Tue Mar 25 19:24:08 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 14:24:08 -0500
Subject: [Zope] RE: Expand Macros solved
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808919@PROSERV>

Hi,

Zope 2.6 answered my questions, thanks.
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	McDonnell, Larry  
> Sent:	Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:10 PM
> To:	'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
> Subject:	Expand Macros
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been looking at the "Examples" area and I found something in the
> FileLibrary folder that allows the uploading of files. I got that part to
> work in my document. What I cannot get working is the ability to display
> the files in the "Files" folder. I get an error message:
> 
> Macro expansion failed
> exceptions.AttributeError: macros
> 
> What do I need to turn on? It works in the example area. Also, I think
> this error prevent me from seeing the files stored in the "Files" folder.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Larry McDonnell
> 
> Proton Energy Systems
> 10 Technology Drive
> Wallingford, CT 06492
> (203) 678-2181
> Email:lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com
> www.protonenergy.com
> 


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:44:19 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:44:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Debugging
In-Reply-To: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8CA@SERVER01>
References: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8CA@SERVER01>
Message-ID: <16000.45459.453898.819924@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Wim Bekker wrote at 2003-3-25 08:56 +0100:
 > I'm trying to debug my Zope installation. But I'm failing to do so. Does
 > anyone know a good way to do this?

There is a HowTo on Zope.org (--> debugging Zope).

You can also use WingIDE, a commercial IDE for Python and Zope.
Costs something...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:37:23 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:37:23 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Import File
In-Reply-To: <3E7F4670.2020606@queisser-net.de>
References: <3E7F4670.2020606@queisser-net.de>
Message-ID: <16000.45043.593739.649885@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Sebastian Quei=DFer wrote at 2003-3-24 18:54 +0100:
 > Is there a function in python like ImageFile() for a normal file, like=
 a=20
 > pdf?

You can use "ImageFile" here, too.

The only difference (between "Image" and "File") is the "__str__"
method: for an image, it results in an "img" tag, for a file
it's the files content.

You loose the option to access the content with "str(...)" for
"ImageFile", but you probably do not need it....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 18:46:18 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:46:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] zope-2.6.1+zeo-2.0.2 not trouble
In-Reply-To: <200303250908.46070.kedai@kedai.com.my>
References: <200303211108.05457.kedai@kedai.com.my>
 <200303250908.46070.kedai@kedai.com.my>
Message-ID: <16000.41978.488444.5172@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bakhtiar A Hamid wrote at 2003-3-25 09:08 +0800:
 > ....
 > > It does not address the hanging.
 > >
 > > We, too, see this behaviour -- but only under Solaris and
 > > not under Linux. We use ZEO 1 with Zope 2.6.1.
 > 
 > hope to hear from you when you solve this.

We moved to Linux...

Unless the problem occurs there, too, I will not investigate
it further. Up to now, there are no signs for this.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:48:13 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:48:13 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Vignette with zope.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12EB@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12EB@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <16000.45693.251074.999740@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj wrote at 2003-3-25 15:10 +0530:
 > Can I use Vignette CMS with Zope? Is there any adapter available to
 > integrate zope with third party content management products? Also I want
 > to use a third party search engine. Any pointers would be of great help.

Web applications can be easily integrated via URL references.
Only problem: common authentication/single log in.

Chris Withers has an integration between Zope and Lucene (a Java
search engine). You may ask him about details.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:43:27 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:43:27 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to access ZODB from python code
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324190624.01e84ba0@192.168.0.115>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324190624.01e84ba0@192.168.0.115>
Message-ID: <16000.45407.255412.582837@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Gabriel Genellina wrote at 2003-3-24 19:25 -0300:
 > I want to get access to some Zope objects stored in ZODB, from *outside* of 
 > any other Zope object (so I dont have anything to call getPhysicalRoot() or 
 > restrictedTraverse() on) but from *inside* python code running in the Zope 
 > process.
 > This doesnt work:
 > 
 >          from Zope import Zope
 >          app = Zope.app()
 >          app.restrictedTraverse(...)
 > 
 > The Zope server freezes, I guess there is a deadlock there.

Does this already happens for the first time?

It would be understandable when it happes after some successes
unless you close the ZODB connection when you are finished:

       Zope.app() opens a ZODB connection which must be closed
       later. There is a connection pool (of 7 connections, by default).
       The application blocks when there are no free connections.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:03:54 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:03:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
In-Reply-To: <46527.199.67.140.20.1048550587.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
References: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
 <15999.21384.761988.85567@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
 <46527.199.67.140.20.1048550587.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <16000.43034.712135.524639@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

BZ wrote at 2003-3-24 18:03 -0600:
 > ...
 > Questions:
 > - How do you truncate a Data.fs to an offset?

There is a HowTo on Zope.org about repairing corrupted
Data.fs. It tells you how to truncate a file.

It's the "truncate" method of Pythons file objects.

 > - How do I know where the object is that had the problem (will I see it in
 > the Data.fs dump I did?)

The POSKeyError tells you the oid of the missing object (as a string).
The dump of your "Data.fs" lists all object records contained
in the "Data.fs" with their oid in hexform.
Object records are contained in transaction records (starting at "offset").
The last occurrence of the object is where the object has
been written latest. When you truncate at the offset
of the following transaction, you have the state as it was after
the object was written.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:49:37 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:49:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Change properties
In-Reply-To: <3E8037E9.3030308@regebro.nu>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DF3B7@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
 <3E8037E9.3030308@regebro.nu>
Message-ID: <16000.45777.907938.736532@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Lennart Regebro wrote at 2003-3-25 12:05 +0100:
 > Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
 > > <dtml-call 
 > > "propertysheets.zpro.manage_changeProperties({'beskrivelse':'new_beskrivelse'})">
 > 
 > > There are no errors, but the property is not changed.

"manage_changeProperties" will silently ignore properties it does
not know.


Dieter


From Tejash.Patel@dowjones.com  Tue Mar 25 20:06:27 2003
From: Tejash.Patel@dowjones.com (Patel, Tejash)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:06:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] product development help and tips
Message-ID: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD2@sbkmxsmb06>

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Hello,

I m developing a product that will do the following:
 My form has the following: ID, TITLE, FILE fields to fill out.
After I have filled out the field, I click submit, I want to create a folder
with the file I uploaded within the folder.
My folder name will be the id, and the file id will be the file name. 

Currently, I am able to use my product to create a folder and a file, but I
don't know now how to put the file within the folder.

Help and tips would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks



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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I m developing a product =
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submit,</FONT> <FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">My folder name will be =
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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Currently,</FONT> <FONT =
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folder</FONT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">.</FONT></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Help and tips would be =
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From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:40:57 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:40:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] lots of ZODB conflict errors
In-Reply-To: <3E7F541D.8030005@neurobs.com>
References: <3E7F541D.8030005@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <16000.45257.794641.12989@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-24 10:53 -0800:
 > Any way to reduce these?

You have read the messages in the archive about "Conflict error"?

First you need to find out whether they are
(write) conflict errors or read conflict errors.

For write conflict errors, there is application specific
conflict resolution (--> document on Zope.org).

For read conflict errors, there is my "ReadCommitted" patch
(which should be named "Snapshot" patch)

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>

Be warned: it is experimental code. I know already one bug...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Tue Mar 25 19:45:55 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:45:55 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Evaluating Output of Scripts as HTML in DTML Pages
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C11D@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C11D@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <16000.45555.996285.159300@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Samir Mishra wrote at 2003-3-25 12:16 +0400:
 > ...
 > What I'd like to be able to do is create a Python script that returns the
 > above, AND I need the DTML document to recognise it as part of the code.

DTML does not provide this feature...

Use a DTML method instead of your Python script and call it....


Dieter


From mattficken@mail.com  Tue Mar 25 21:19:28 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:19:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] SSL Support
Message-ID: <20030325211928.81256.qmail@mail.com>

Does Zope support SSL?

Is there a way I can enable/activate that support from a product?
-- 
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 14:04:17 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 14:04:17 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope and mod_proxy
In-Reply-To: <20030325191115.GB22109@ch208h>
References: <b5q1re$sfa$1@main.gmane.org>
 <1048588224.17017.50.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <20030325191115.GB22109@ch208h>
Message-ID: <1048601056.17971.7.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 19:11, Mike Renfro wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:30:25AM +0000, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:58, Gerhard Venter wrote:
> > > Is there any Linux distribution that install Apache and Zope so that
> > > caching with mod_proxy is there by default (as in 
> > > http://www.zope.org/Members/rbeer/caching)
> > 
> > I hope not. :-)
> > 
> > You probably shouldn't run Apache until you understand how to configure
> > it.  This is doubly true when running proxy services.  
> 
> If I recall correctly, Debian ships with most every Apache module
> (either in the apache and apache-common packages, or in the various
> libapache* packages), but doesn't enable them all by default. I've
> certainly not been required to rebuild Apache for rewrite/proxy usage.


Indeed.  I think that's true of most package-installed Apache setups...
you get the most common modules (proxy, rewrite, etc) but they aren't
loaded and/or turned on in the httpd.conf file.

I'm not saying you need to roll your own Apache to use it... but some
familiarity with the configaration is required, regardless of the
distro. It seemed the OP was looking for a Zope-specific pre-configured
Apache package.

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 14:11:49 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 14:11:49 +0000
Subject: [Zope] SSL Support
In-Reply-To: <20030325211928.81256.qmail@mail.com>
References: <20030325211928.81256.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <1048601508.17969.16.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 21:19, Matt Ficken wrote:
> Does Zope support SSL?
> 
> Is there a way I can enable/activate that support from a product?

No and yes.

Zope doesn't have SSL out of the box.  But just about anything you want
to accomplish with SSL can be done one way or another.  :-)

If you're looking to serve HTTPS content, I'd recommend running Zope
behind Apache with mod_ssl.  It's not the only way of doing this, but it
is a very well-documented and stable solution.

Other SSL stuff (checking client certs, posting secure transactions) are
possible too.  Do a search on www.zope.org for some relevant pointers
and products.  If you still have questions, please tell us a bit more
about what you're trying to do.


Dylan





From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 14:17:15 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 14:17:15 +0000
Subject: [Zope] product development help and tips
In-Reply-To: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD2@sbkmxsmb06>
References: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD2@sbkmxsmb06>
Message-ID: <1048601835.17971.22.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 20:06, Patel, Tejash wrote:

> Currently, I am able to use my product to create a folder and a file,
> but I don't know now how to put the file within the folder.
> 

The best way is to call the file creation method *on* the Folder object
you want the file to be put inside.

If necessary, it is also possible to cut & paste the file into the
folder after it has been created:
http://www.zope.org/Members/dylanr/move_obj

HTH,

Dylan



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From: pegarnie@yahoo.es (=?iso-8859-1?q?Pelayo=20Beltr=E1n=20Garc=EDa?=)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:43:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
Message-ID: <20030325224305.29513.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com>

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if I want to backup Zope I must copy Data.fs but, must I shut down Zope every time I need to do that? 

Thanks.


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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Tue Mar 25 22:56:21 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:56:21 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
In-Reply-To: <20030325224305.29513.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030325224305.29513.qmail@web20504.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E80DE95.7060108@jcameroncooper.com>

> if I want to backup Zope I must copy Data.fs but, must I shut down 
> Zope every time I need to do that?

Nope. It's perfectly safe to copy the Data.fs of a running server.

          --jcc



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 15:09:35 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 15:09:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] product development help and tips
In-Reply-To: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD7@sbkmxsmb06>
References: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD7@sbkmxsmb06>
Message-ID: <1048604975.17931.64.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

[copied back to the list]

On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 22:20, Patel, Tejash wrote:
> I am trying to develop a product for my site, this is what I want:
> 
> The product will create a folder and within that folder a file will be 
> copied into it. This is all done automatically.

I'm assuming this isn't *all* the product does and that you have
determined you actually want a product...


> What I want I to someone take the IDValues create a folder with this 
> name and the take the uploaded file and copy it into the IDValues 
> folder which was just created, I want to do this all in one shot.

OK.  Here goes.


The form:
----------------------
<form method=post action=my_form_proc enctype="multipart/form-data">
ID: <input type=text name=IDValue><BR>
Title: <input type=text name=TitleValue><BR>
File: <input type=file name=FileData><BR>
<input type=submit>
</form>


Product Method: my_form_proc
---------------------------
def my_form_proc(self, IDValue, TitleValue, FileData, REQUEST=None):
   """ Allow user to add file """
   context.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addFolder(IDValue)
   context[IDValue].manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addFile(
          id=TitleValue, 
          title='',
          file=FileData)
   if REQUEST:
      return self.some_interface(self, REQUEST)

That's untested, but should get you most of the way there.

HTH,

Dylan



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Mar 26 00:32:09 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:32:09 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D60E@desi2>

Though your copy may end up needing repair after the fact; backup in this
sense is not transactional.  DirectoryStorage has the best answer for this
at the moment (better than FileStorage), in that it supports snapshots, has
a built-in backup tool, and has a secure network-replication tool as well.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: J Cameron Cooper [mailto:jccooper@jcameroncooper.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:56 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope backup


> if I want to backup Zope I must copy Data.fs but, must I shut down 
> Zope every time I need to do that?

Nope. It's perfectly safe to copy the Data.fs of a running server.

          --jcc


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From rds@eol.ca  Wed Mar 26 01:40:58 2003
From: rds@eol.ca (Roy:de-Silva)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:40:58 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Download issue
Message-ID: <NBEFJAJIGBNFMFBAIDCPIEGLCCAA.rds@eol.ca>

Hi!,
I am new to Zope. I tried downloading the latest stable release of Zope for
windows and followed the instructions. But nothing seems to happen when I
click the download link (the .exe file)


Any suggestions?

Thanks...
Roy.






From antonio@cathaylife.com.tw  Wed Mar 26 02:02:23 2003
From: antonio@cathaylife.com.tw (antonio)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 10:02:23 +0800
Subject: [Zope] Subject to the terms and conditions of this
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From scrappy@hub.org  Wed Mar 26 02:43:53 2003
From: scrappy@hub.org (Marc G. Fournier)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:43:53 -0400 (AST)
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
Message-ID: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>

We had a particularly impressive server crash a couple of weeks back,
where our RAID controller blew up ... the result was some pretty
impressive data corruption ... since the crash, we've been having a
problem with Zope 2.5.1, particularly the ability to manage the site.

When trying to Add Folder, it results in an error of:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 150, in publish_module
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 127, in publish
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 127, in publish
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 127, in publish
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 122, in publish
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 126, in zpublisher_exception_hook
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 102, in publish
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 173, in commit
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py, line 234, in commit
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 348, in commit
    (Info: (('OFS.Folder', 'Folder'), '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x003\x97', ''))
  File /usr/local/www/Zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 668, in store
    (Object: /usr/local/www/Zope/var/Data.fs)
ConflictError: database conflict error (oid 0000000000003397, serial was 034b1b936fdaccb3, now 0000000000000000)

I tried to run the fsrecover.py script on the Data file (a copy of it),
and it closes with:

exceptions.ValueError: unpack list of wrong size

So I'm figuring that the Data.fs must be one of the casualties of the
crash ...

Now, Zope is a new one for me, and really have no idea of what the Data.fs
is even used for ... is it something that I can just delete and Zope will
just start building it from scratch?  Or is it something that I can
regenerate based on information from the file system?

I found the following link:

http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/CorruptedZODB

And tried it, but it made no difference ... from what I read in the URL,
it sounds like I'm basically removing transactions, one at a time, from
Data.fs ... what does that affect (ie. what am I losing for each
transaction I remove)?  how far back can/should I remove?

Pointers, as well as advice, is greatly appreciated ...

Thanks ..


From lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com  Wed Mar 26 03:46:04 2003
From: lim_tien_aik@hotmail.com (LIM TIENAIK)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:46:04 +0000
Subject: [Zope] System Date and time
Message-ID: <BAY1-F2174A2DreBBsQ0004e0d9@hotmail.com>

Is it possible for zope to get the time and date of the system via dtml or 
python script?

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Tue Mar 25 21:10:51 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 25 Mar 2003 21:10:51 +0000
Subject: [Zope] System Date and time
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F2174A2DreBBsQ0004e0d9@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F2174A2DreBBsQ0004e0d9@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <1048626650.4162.1.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 03:46, LIM TIENAIK wrote:
> Is it possible for zope to get the time and date of the system via dtml or 
> python script?
> 

Yep. See: http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/CustomDateFormats

HTH,

Dylan




From subscriptions@sagacity.com.au  Wed Mar 26 05:43:34 2003
From: subscriptions@sagacity.com.au (Matthew Lindfield Seager)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:43:34 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Searching a Gadfly database
Message-ID: <E214AA9F-5F4D-11D7-AA45-0003936F69BA@sagacity.com.au>

Hi,

I've been attempting (unsuccessfully) for a couple of days now to 
implement a simple search facility on a Zope based intranet I inherited 
responsibility for. (Forgive me if this is a really basic question, I'm 
much more comfortable with PHP and MySQL).

After going around in numerous circles and butting my head up against a 
wall almost constantly I've finally worked out that:
a) The text to search on is in a Gadfly database AND
b) Gadfly databases don't support the SQL "LIKE" operator

The manual says something about using python and regular expressions or 
something instead of "LIKE" but it's enough of a battle for me puzzling 
out this Zope stuff let alone learning some Python too...

Oh, and the reason I decided to try the SQL route was because Z Catalog 
didn't seem to store any useful information that I wanted to search on. 
It (understandably) only catalogued information ABOUT the Z SQL Method, 
not information IN the Z SQL Method.

Can anyone help me with a way to search a Gadfly database: either using 
SQL, Z Catalog or some other method.

Thanks in advance!
Matthew



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Mar 26 07:59:44 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:59:44 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: System Date and time
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F2174A2DreBBsQ0004e0d9@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-F2174A2DreBBsQ0004e0d9@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5rmm1$8rv$1@main.gmane.org>

LIM TIENAIK wrote:
> Is it possible for zope to get the time and date of the system via dtml 
> or python script?

You can use: <dtml-var ZopeTime>

Have a look at Zope-Help -> Api-Reference -> DateTime for methods to 
format and manipulate DateTime-Objects.

-mj




From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Wed Mar 26 09:00:26 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:30:26 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Problem running Zope behind IIS.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540630E513@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,
=20
I am trying to run Zope behind IIS. Also I need IIS to take care of user
authentication. I found in one document that the superuser password has
to be removed for this purpose. But I am not able to find where it is
stored. Can anyone help me in this? Thank you.
=20
Regards,
Paul.

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From CVizitiu@gbif.org  Wed Mar 26 10:03:25 2003
From: CVizitiu@gbif.org (Vizitiu, Ciprian)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:03:25 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is this a bug?
Message-ID: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FBFE@home3>

Zope 2.5.1. on Linux (also produced on 2.6.0); Macromedia HomeSite 5 on XP. 

Open and edit some dtml via FTP. After several open/save opperations in
HomeSite you can no longer access the management interface with IE! Tested
with IE 5.x and 6.x on W2K/XP and IE on Mac. The page time-outs after a
while with the standard IE error message. It looks like the site is down.
The only way out of the problem is Mozilla/Netscape/Opera: You open the
management interface wo any problem at all; you have to go and open in the
web interface ALL the documents that have been edited through the ftp
interface and SAVE them. That's it! Double click the link and then press
Save. It apparently fixes the problem but it looks very scary. Is this a bug
or is there something wrong in my config?


From maxm@mxm.dk  Wed Mar 26 10:05:37 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:05:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Objects
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030325082156.00b2a7b0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E817B71.1070504@mxm.dk>

Jeff Childers wrote:

> I'm starting to get the "big picture" but I'm still a little fuzzy on 
> the details, particularly about objects and the ZODB. I'm hoping that 
> someone can give me some brief pointers to where the answers the these 
> questions lie. I have read a *bunch* of Zope doc and I'm pretty handy 
> with Python.
>
> 1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?


> I get the persistent object thing. Very cool. So let's say I want to 
> write a billing system. I have customer objects, invoice objects, and 
> payment objects. [ Customer [ Invoices [Payments] ] ].
>
> a) Where do I put the code that defines each custom class? Scripts 
> seem to be for def-functions. Do I have to put this outside Zope? 



You need to write a Zope product i Python to do these things. There is a 
good overview here:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/comp_tut

> b) Do I use ZCatalogs to 'index' my objects so I can query them 
> similar to SQL? If so, how/where do I add my custom classes to the 
> ZCatalog? 



Your classes should just subclass "CatalogPathAware" and they are 
automatically catalog aware. If you use this tool to write your 
products, they are so automatically:

http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/easyProduct

> 2) How do I instantiate and persist (through the session) a particular 
> instance of the class from the ZODB (i.e. a certain customer)? 



When you write your products, you also write a "constructor" function, 
which does it for you.

regards Max M




From wim@dv-rec.com  Wed Mar 26 08:49:53 2003
From: wim@dv-rec.com (Wim Bekker)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:49:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Debugging
Message-ID: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8D0@SERVER01>

>J Cameron Cooper wrote:
>
>I'm not familiar with any IDEs or debugging tools -- not that there 
>aren't any: I just don't use 'em. If you really want to do so, I'm sure 
>you can setup up something like this with regular Python tools and use 
>breakpoints or stepthrough or whatnot.

I'm working on an intranet Zwiki and want to use it for project management.
I need to know all the details. Using an IDE I can walk through all the code
and this provides a very good learning curve for me.

I've installed python23 on my system but zope is not using it because it
uses python21 that came with the installation. If I use python23 to run
p2.py, I get an error saying that python21.dll is not compatible.

My biggest problem now is to run zope with pyton23. Any idea's ??

Wim


From stefan@epy.co.at  Wed Mar 26 10:24:12 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:24:12 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Debugging
In-Reply-To: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8D0@SERVER01>
References: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8D0@SERVER01>
Message-ID: <1758621641.1048677852@[172.16.8.4]>

You cannot run Zope2 with Python2.3 AFAIK.

Python IDEs with debuggers are e.g. Wing IDE and Boa Constructor.

Stefan


--On Mittwoch, 26. M=E4rz 2003 09:49 +0100 Wim Bekker <wim@dv-rec.com> =
wrote:

>> J Cameron Cooper wrote:
>>
>> I'm not familiar with any IDEs or debugging tools -- not that there
>> aren't any: I just don't use 'em. If you really want to do so, I'm sure
>> you can setup up something like this with regular Python tools and use
>> breakpoints or stepthrough or whatnot.
>
> I'm working on an intranet Zwiki and want to use it for project
> management. I need to know all the details. Using an IDE I can walk
> through all the code and this provides a very good learning curve for me.
>
> I've installed python23 on my system but zope is not using it because it
> uses python21 that came with the installation. If I use python23 to run
> p2.py, I get an error saying that python21.dll is not compatible.
>
> My biggest problem now is to run zope with pyton23. Any idea's ??
>
> Wim
>
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From ralph@ezcompany.nl  Wed Mar 26 10:55:01 2003
From: ralph@ezcompany.nl (Ralph vd Houdt)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:55:01 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Z SQL Method results and ZClasses
Message-ID: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net>

Hi All,

I'm experimenting with ZSQL Methods and want to assign a ZClass to te result
object. I've read that 'in the future' it wil be possible to do that. But..

Is it possible todo this already or has anyone a solution to do this another
way?

Greetings Ralph



From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Wed Mar 26 11:32:02 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:02:02 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Problem while adding LDAP adapter
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12FE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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Hi,
=20
I added a LDAP adapter in my zope. I am getting the following error when
I try to view the groups(Show Groups). Can anyone help me? I am running
zope 2.5.1. Thank you.
=20
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.

Error Type: OPERATIONS_ERROR
Error Value: {'desc': 'Operations error', 'info': '000020D6: SvcErr:
DSID-03100690, problem 5012 (DIR_ERROR), data 0\n'}


Regards,

Paul.


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From Antigen_SP_EXCH@smtp06.ensco.com  Wed Mar 26 11:32:29 2003
From: Antigen_SP_EXCH@smtp06.ensco.com (Antigen_SP_EXCH@smtp06.ensco.com)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 06:32:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ENSCO found VIRUS= Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky) virus!
Message-ID: <SP-EXCHkIYjJxUZ9eKa00002970@sp-exch.ensco.win>

ENSCO found Unknown infected with VIRUS= Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload (Kaspersky) virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, "Zope digest, Vol 1 #2674 - 46 msgs", was
sent from zope-admin@zope.org to zope@zope.org.  ENSCO's Information Systems team and the sender have also been notified.

Information Systems Team
ENSCO Inc.




From huima@iki.fi  Wed Mar 26 11:39:51 2003
From: huima@iki.fi (Heimo Laukkanen)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:39:51 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Vignette with zope.
Message-ID: <3E819187.1020902@iki.fi>

> From: Dieter Maurer <dieter@handshake.de>
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:48:13 +0100
> To: "Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj" <Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com>
> Cc: <zope@zope.org>
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Vignette with zope.
>
> Web applications can be easily integrated via URL references.
> Only problem: common authentication/single log in.
> 
> Chris Withers has an integration between Zope and Lucene (a Java
> search engine). You may ask him about details.

My friend also did ( well almost) integration between Notes and Zope. He 
created a servet that takes the Notes authentication information and 
stores into Postgres and forwards request to Zope. In Zope modified 
exUserFolder then handles everything from that point on.

He did not write to Zope part to finished state, but rather did just a 
proof of concept that it is doable and would not require miracles.

-huima



From NAINVADMNOVAMAIL3@nvcc.edu  Wed Mar 26 11:43:03 2003
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From jens@zope.com  Wed Mar 26 12:39:27 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:39:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Problem while adding LDAP adapter
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12FE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <FB99066A-5F87-11D7-AD7D-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

it is not possible to give you any help if you don't give some more 
details, like...

- OS
- LDAP server and version
- python-ldap package version
- the *full* traceback if there is one
- LDAP adapter version (???? - see note below)

by the way, if the product you use is really the "LDAP Adapter", which 
has not been maintained in over a year, you might be on your own.

jens


On Wednesday, Mar 26, 2003, at 06:32 US/Eastern, Paul Naveen Raj 
Jeyaraj wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I added a LDAP adapter in my zope. I am getting the following error 
> when
> I try to view the groups(Show Groups). Can anyone help me? I am running
> zope 2.5.1. Thank you.
>
> Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
>
> Error Type: OPERATIONS_ERROR
> Error Value: {'desc': 'Operations error', 'info': '000020D6: SvcErr:
> DSID-03100690, problem 5012 (DIR_ERROR), data 0\n'}
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul.
>
> <winmail.dat>



From loper@ananzi.co.za  Wed Mar 26 12:47:59 2003
From: loper@ananzi.co.za (Gerhard Venter)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:47:59 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope and mod_proxy
In-Reply-To: <1048601056.17971.7.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
References: <b5q1re$sfa$1@main.gmane.org>	 <1048588224.17017.50.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>	 <20030325191115.GB22109@ch208h> <1048601056.17971.7.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <b5s7hp$c82$1@main.gmane.org>

Thanks Dylan, Mike

Installing Debian was far easier than I expected, and after using 
apt-get I was really impressed

Gerhard


Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 19:11, Mike Renfro wrote:
> 
>>On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:30:25AM +0000, Dylan Reinhardt wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 16:58, Gerhard Venter wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is there any Linux distribution that install Apache and Zope so that
>>>>caching with mod_proxy is there by default (as in 
>>>>http://www.zope.org/Members/rbeer/caching)
>>>
>>>I hope not. :-)
>>>
>>>You probably shouldn't run Apache until you understand how to configure
>>>it.  This is doubly true when running proxy services.  
>>
>>If I recall correctly, Debian ships with most every Apache module
>>(either in the apache and apache-common packages, or in the various
>>libapache* packages), but doesn't enable them all by default. I've
>>certainly not been required to rebuild Apache for rewrite/proxy usage.
> 
> 
> 
> Indeed.  I think that's true of most package-installed Apache setups...
> you get the most common modules (proxy, rewrite, etc) but they aren't
> loaded and/or turned on in the httpd.conf file.
> 
> I'm not saying you need to roll your own Apache to use it... but some
> familiarity with the configaration is required, regardless of the
> distro. It seemed the OP was looking for a Zope-specific pre-configured
> Apache package.
> 
> Dylan
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From marinus@cs.utwente.nl  Wed Mar 26 13:11:37 2003
From: marinus@cs.utwente.nl (Ria Marinussen)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:11:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zopelabs.com problems?
Message-ID: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027797@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>

Hi ,

does anyony know what's the problem with the Zope Labs site?
(I don't know who is the owner of the domain, that's why I post on this
mailinglist.)

Yesterday I got a page saying the domainname is expired, today the domain
isn't found.

Is it a technical or financial problem?

.. I would hate to loose this source of information (and scripting
examples).

Ria Marinussen


From casey@zope.com  Wed Mar 26 14:38:28 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:38:28 -0500
Subject: [Zope] product development help and tips
In-Reply-To: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD2@sbkmxsmb06>
References: <9DE45C904D93D211B20D0008C75DA882064A0AD2@sbkmxsmb06>
Message-ID: <200303260938.28902.casey@zope.com>

The general rhythm is as follows (in product module code):

class MyClass(SimpleItem, ...):
    ...

def addMyClass(container, id, ...other form fields..., RESPONSE=3DNone):
    obj =3D MyClass(id, ...)
    container._setObject(id, obj)
    if RESPONSE is not None:
        RESPONSE.redirect(container.absolute_url() + '/manage_main')

addMyClassForm =3D PageTemplateFile(
    package_home(globals()) + '/www/addMyClassForm.pt')

The key is the _setObject(id, obj) call. That puts the object in the fold=
er. I=20
would recommend looking at the Boring product as an example to.

hth,

-Casey


On Tuesday 25 March 2003 03:06 pm, Patel, Tejash wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I m developing a product that will do the following:
>  My form has the following: ID, TITLE, FILE fields to fill out.
> After I have filled out the field, I click submit, I want to create a f=
older
> with the file I uploaded within the folder.
> My folder name will be the id, and the file id will be the file name.=20
>=20
> Currently, I am able to use my product to create a folder and a file, b=
ut I
> don't know now how to put the file within the folder.
>=20
> Help and tips would be greatly appreciated.
>=20
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
>=20
>=20



From jean@upfrontsystems.co.za  Wed Mar 26 15:43:43 2003
From: jean@upfrontsystems.co.za (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:43:43 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTree tree-expansion cookies: question
Message-ID: <3E81CAAF.4040003@upfrontsystems.co.za>

Hi Philipp

I've just start using your ZopeTree product (with a lot of
gratification, I might add), and I've got a question about how
the 'tree-expansion' cookie works.

The behaviour that prompted my question is this: using Mozilla
1.2.1, when browsing around a site which displays a tree, the state
of the tree depends on where I am in the site. For example, at
/position/a I might have collapsed half the tree. I go to
/position/a/b and expand everything. If I then go to /position/a
again, the tree is half-collapsed, the way I left it, instead of
the way I set it while at /position/a/b.

I checked the cookies Mozilla was holding, and saw that it had a
'tree-expansion' cookie for every path where I changed the state
(i.e. every path where setCookie was called). I suspect this is
because the cookie is set without a 'path' specification, and
Mozilla is being conservative and restricting the cookie to the
path where it is being set.

  request.RESPONSE.setCookie(request_variable, tree_expansion)

To fix this situation for me, I can change ZopeTree to set the
cookie's path to the path of the tree's root_object. What do you
think of that?

-- 
Jean Jordaan
http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za



From mlong@datalong.com  Wed Mar 26 15:53:34 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:53:34 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Objects
Message-ID: <E18yDDa-00075a-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

If the online documentation is not quite enough I would recommend the
Zope Bible. The chapters on building zope products are very good. I have
just finished creating the AddressBook example in the book but instead
of using DTML I used ZPT. I also incorporated a style sheet. It was an
interesting exercise. Unfortunately I could not get the security model
explained in the book to work right.

This is my first attempt at creating a product and if anyone would care
to look over this code and give any feedback I would be greatful.

Cheers,
Mike

> Jeff Childers wrote:
> 
> > I'm starting to get the "big picture" but I'm still a little fuzzy on 
> > the details, particularly about objects and the ZODB. I'm hoping that 
> > someone can give me some brief pointers to where the answers the these 
> > questions lie. I have read a *bunch* of Zope doc and I'm pretty handy 
> > with Python.
> >
> > 1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?
> 
> 
> > I get the persistent object thing. Very cool. So let's say I want to 
> > write a billing system. I have customer objects, invoice objects, and 
> > payment objects. [ Customer [ Invoices [Payments] ] ].
> >
> > a) Where do I put the code that defines each custom class? Scripts 
> > seem to be for def-functions. Do I have to put this outside Zope? 
> 
> 
> 
> You need to write a Zope product i Python to do these things. There is a 
> good overview here:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/comp_tut
> 
> > b) Do I use ZCatalogs to 'index' my objects so I can query them 
> > similar to SQL? If so, how/where do I add my custom classes to the 
> > ZCatalog? 
> 
> 
> 
> Your classes should just subclass "CatalogPathAware" and they are 
> automatically catalog aware. If you use this tool to write your 
> products, they are so automatically:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/easyProduct
> 
> > 2) How do I instantiate and persist (through the session) a particular 
> > instance of the class from the ZODB (i.e. a certain customer)? 
> 
> 
> 
> When you write your products, you also write a "constructor" function, 
> which does it for you.
> 
> regards Max M
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From ffaure@bigfoot.com  Wed Mar 26 16:34:08 2003
From: ffaure@bigfoot.com (Frederic Faure)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:34:08 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZPatterns for dummies?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030326173223.00a7ccc0@mail.club-internet.fr>

Hi,

I've read the ad hoc chapters in the "Zope Web Application Development and 
Content Management" book, but I still don't understand what ZPatterns are 
used for. Could someone explain its goal in simple-to-understand terms so I 
get a better handle? :-)

Thx
Fred.



From d.hooymans@edufocus.nl  Wed Mar 26 16:45:03 2003
From: d.hooymans@edufocus.nl (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dani=EBl_Hooymans?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:45:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZPatterns for dummies?
Message-ID: <B956E6318437144BBEFFF3D5D408343D283CBE@exchange.spc.nl>

check out http://www.zope.org/Members/upfront/zpatterns_howto.stx

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederic Faure [mailto:ffaure@bigfoot.com]
> Sent: woensdag 26 maart 2003 17:34
> To: zope@zope.org
> Subject: [Zope] ZPatterns for dummies?
>=20
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I've read the ad hoc chapters in the "Zope Web Application=20
> Development and=20
> Content Management" book, but I still don't understand what=20
> ZPatterns are=20
> used for. Could someone explain its goal in=20
> simple-to-understand terms so I=20
> get a better handle? :-)
>=20
> Thx
> Fred.
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
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> (Related lists -=20
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>=20


From mlong@datalong.com  Wed Mar 26 16:56:31 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:56:31 -0500
Subject: Fw: Re: [Zope] Zope and Objects
Message-ID: <E18yECV-0003Nw-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

If the online documentation is not quite enough I would recommend the
Zope Bible. The chapters on building zope products are very good. I have
just finished creating the AddressBook example in the book but instead
of using DTML I used ZPT. I also incorporated a style sheet. It was an
interesting exercise. Unfortunately I could not get the security model
explained in the book to work right.

This is my first attempt at creating a product and if anyone would care
to look over this code and give any feedback I would be greatful.

Cheers,
Mike

> Jeff Childers wrote:
> 
> > I'm starting to get the "big picture" but I'm still a little fuzzy on 
> > the details, particularly about objects and the ZODB. I'm hoping that 
> > someone can give me some brief pointers to where the answers the these 
> > questions lie. I have read a *bunch* of Zope doc and I'm pretty handy 
> > with Python.
> >
> > 1) Where are data object classes defined in Zope?
> 
> 
> > I get the persistent object thing. Very cool. So let's say I want to 
> > write a billing system. I have customer objects, invoice objects, and 
> > payment objects. [ Customer [ Invoices [Payments] ] ].
> >
> > a) Where do I put the code that defines each custom class? Scripts 
> > seem to be for def-functions. Do I have to put this outside Zope? 
> 
> 
> 
> You need to write a Zope product i Python to do these things. There is a 
> good overview here:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/comp_tut
> 
> > b) Do I use ZCatalogs to 'index' my objects so I can query them 
> > similar to SQL? If so, how/where do I add my custom classes to the 
> > ZCatalog? 
> 
> 
> 
> Your classes should just subclass "CatalogPathAware" and they are 
> automatically catalog aware. If you use this tool to write your 
> products, they are so automatically:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/maxm/HowTo/easyProduct
> 
> > 2) How do I instantiate and persist (through the session) a particular 
> > instance of the class from the ZODB (i.e. a certain customer)? 
> 
> 
> 
> When you write your products, you also write a "constructor" function, 
> which does it for you.
> 
> regards Max M
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists - 
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> 
> 









From mrroach@cimplify.net  Wed Mar 26 17:14:10 2003
From: mrroach@cimplify.net (Roach, Mark R.)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 12:14:10 -0500
Subject: [Zope] modifying a url's query string
Message-ID: <1048698850.20764.1881.camel@flmrroach>

Hi, I'm wondering if there is a good way to modify the query string of a
get request to change a single variable. For example, let's say my dtml
method is accessed like this:

http://myzope/MyFolder/method?var1=foo&var2=bar

now I want one of the links on the page to load the same page, only with
a different value for var2.

I could use something like 
<dtml-var absolute_url>?var1=&dtml-var1;&var2=newvalue

but that seems cumbersome the longer the list of variables gets.

My first thought is to find some way to get the query string and make a
function that will convert it to and from a dictionary, allowing me to
change specific keys for new urls like

full_url_with_query({'var1':'newvalue'})

 but it seems that the only source of variable info is the (quite large)
REQUEST object. Is there any way to pull only the query string variables
out of the request, or even better, a function that does what my
imaginary "full_url_with_query" function wants to do?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Mark Roach



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Wed Mar 26 17:19:40 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:19:40 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: modifying a url's query string
In-Reply-To: <1048698850.20764.1881.camel@flmrroach>
References: <1048698850.20764.1881.camel@flmrroach>
Message-ID: <b5snfu$b86$1@main.gmane.org>

Roach, Mark R. wrote:
> Is there any way to pull only the query string variables
> out of the request, or even better, a function that does what my
> imaginary "full_url_with_query" function wants to do?

You can use REQUEST.form as subset of the REQUEST for parameters via the 
QUERY_STRING.

-mj




From felix@chaptereight.com  Wed Mar 26 17:32:02 2003
From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 17:32:02 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ZPT rendered output formatting
Message-ID: <m27kam825p.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>

Hi

Can I have any control over how ZPT formats the html it produces?
Specifically, source like this:

<p><img tal:attributes="src here/pic/absolute_url"
        title="a piccie" width="24"
        height="45" border="2"
        vspace="2" /></p>

ends up like this (one line):

<p><img title="a piccie" width="24" height="45" border="2" vspace="2" src="http://localhost:8080/temp_folder/pic"></p>



and sometimes, source like this:

<img tal:attributes="src here/pic/absolute_url" width="10" height="12" />

renders like this:

<img src="http://site.com/pic"
     width="10" height="12" >


Any pointers, please?

Thanks

Felix.



From tpassin@mitretek.org  Wed Mar 26 17:42:01 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:42:01 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZPT rendered output formatting
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1CAF6@email1.mitretek.org>

[Felix Ulrich-Oltean]

> Can I have any control over how ZPT formats the html it produces?
> Specifically, source like this:
>=20
[snipped]
>=20
> Any pointers, please?
>=20

Why do you care?  A browser should not.  If you want to read the output
from time to time, and all else fails, use a pretty-printer like Tidy.
(No matter how a program formats markup, it will not suit everyone
anyway).


From tino@wildenhain.de  Wed Mar 26 17:51:58 2003
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:51:58 +0100
Subject: [Zope] modifying a url's query string
References: <1048698850.20764.1881.camel@flmrroach>
Message-ID: <3E81E8BE.7070808@wildenhain.de>

Hi Mark,

Roach, Mark R. wrote:
> Hi, I'm wondering if there is a good way to modify the query string of a
> get request to change a single variable. For example, let's say my dtml
> method is accessed like this:
> 
> http://myzope/MyFolder/method?var1=foo&var2=bar
> 
> now I want one of the links on the page to load the same page, only with
> a different value for var2.
> 
> I could use something like 
> <dtml-var absolute_url>?var1=&dtml-var1;&var2=newvalue
> 
> but that seems cumbersome the longer the list of variables gets.
> 

...
> 
> full_url_with_query({'var1':'newvalue'})

This is ZTUtils.make_query().

> 
>  but it seems that the only source of variable info is the (quite large)
> REQUEST object. Is there any way to pull only the query string variables

yes, this is the subobject "form" of REQUEST.


> out of the request, or even better, a function that does what my
> imaginary "full_url_with_query" function wants to do?

Ok, some examples, requiring you do it inside a python script "Script 
(Python)" as you would do anyway for logic:

# simple copy:
from ZTUtils import make_query
form = container.REQUEST.form

return apply(make_query,(),form)

# copy with replacement:

from ZTUtils import make_query
form = container.REQUEST.form

form.update({'value1':'somevalue',
              'value2':'othervalue'})

return apply(make_query,(),form)

# copy with defaults:

from ZTUtils import make_query
form = container.REQUEST.form

defauls = {'value1':'somevalue',
            'value2':'othervalue'}

defaults.update(form)

return apply(make_query,(),form)

# the most simple variable only:
from ZTUtils import make_query

return make_query(value1=1234,value2='foobar',value3=[1,2,3])
# this also shows how different types are handled.

HTH
Tino













From robertjean2@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 26 19:05:27 2003
From: robertjean2@yahoo.com (Robert Jean)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:05:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Publishing of plain HTML files
Message-ID: <20030326190527.50787.qmail@web20505.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I would like to export a site from Zope to a Web
server where Zope is not installed.

In this model, Zope is used for the
creation, management and publishing of the content,
while the delivery is performed by IIS or Apache.

__________________________________________________
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From robertjean2@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 26 19:05:27 2003
From: robertjean2@yahoo.com (Robert Jean)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:05:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Publishing of plain HTML files
Message-ID: <20030326190527.76625.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I would like to export a site from Zope to a Web
server where Zope is not installed.

In this model, Zope is used for the
creation, management and publishing of the content,
while the delivery is performed by IIS or Apache.

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!
http://platinum.yahoo.com


From robertjean2@yahoo.com  Wed Mar 26 19:08:56 2003
From: robertjean2@yahoo.com (Robert Jean)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:08:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Content delivery without Zope
Message-ID: <20030326190856.41538.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

I would like to export a site from Zope to a Web
server where Zope is not installed.

In this model, Zope is used for the...
  - creation
  - management
  - publishing 
... of the content, while the delivery is performed by
IIS or Apache.

I have heard of ZMirror, but it is "development level"
and apparently not updated since 1999.

Any idea?

Thanks,
Robert

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!
http://platinum.yahoo.com


From tino@wildenhain.de  Wed Mar 26 19:14:19 2003
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:14:19 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Content delivery without Zope
References: <20030326190856.41538.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E81FC0B.5000405@wildenhain.de>

Hi Robert,

Robert Jean wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to export a site from Zope to a Web
> server where Zope is not installed.
> 
> In this model, Zope is used for the...
>   - creation
>   - management
>   - publishing 
> ... of the content, while the delivery is performed by
> IIS or Apache.
> 
> I have heard of ZMirror, but it is "development level"
> and apparently not updated since 1999.
> 
> Any idea?

You can use wget or pavuk to simply mirror from Zope
to plain files.

If you have the option, it is smarter to serve your zope
thru Squid-Proxy, so you can have semi static content
while all updates can be propagated via CacheManager
to Squid.

Regards
Tino



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Wed Mar 26 19:24:15 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:24:15 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Content delivery without Zope
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D619@desi2>

I think CMFDeployment in the collective CVS takes this sort of approach.

>From the README.txt file:
"""
    This tool allows for static deployment of a CMF
    site to multiple target systems akin to the deployment
    features of advanced commerical CMS systems like interwoven 
    or vignette.
"""

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/collective/CMFDeployment/

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Jean [mailto:robertjean2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:09 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Content delivery without Zope


Hello,

I would like to export a site from Zope to a Web
server where Zope is not installed.

In this model, Zope is used for the...
  - creation
  - management
  - publishing 
... of the content, while the delivery is performed by
IIS or Apache.

I have heard of ZMirror, but it is "development level"
and apparently not updated since 1999.

Any idea?

Thanks,
Robert

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!
http://platinum.yahoo.com

_______________________________________________
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http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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 http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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From mlong@datalong.com  Wed Mar 26 20:06:44 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:06:44 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Cannot connect to zope from zope server
Message-ID: <E18yHAa-00067t-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

Hi all,

I have lost the ability to connect to zope from the server. I was logged
in when I attempted to add a new folder I could not enter data in the
input box. Upon clicking refresh I was told that I cannot connect to the
server. I can connect from other machines so zope is alive. I went as
far as rebooting the machine and get the same results. Where do I start
to look to resolve this?

Specs:
  SuSE 8.1
  Zope 2.6.0 (built from source)
  Python 2.1.3

Thanks,
Mike


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 20:17:56 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:17:56 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Download issue
In-Reply-To: <NBEFJAJIGBNFMFBAIDCPIEGLCCAA.rds@eol.ca>
References: <NBEFJAJIGBNFMFBAIDCPIEGLCCAA.rds@eol.ca>
Message-ID: <3E820AF4.4020400@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I am new to Zope. I tried downloading the latest stable release of Zope for
>windows and followed the instructions. But nothing seems to happen when I
>click the download link (the .exe file)
>  
>
Sounds more like a problem with your computer or your process than a 
Zope one. All I can say is that the process is: Download the installer 
executable and execute it. (I believe the Winders steps to that would 
be: right click on link -> save as..., go to the file and double click.) 
That's as much help as can be given based on such a report.

          --jcc




From wankyu@neoqst.com  Wed Mar 26 20:24:15 2003
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 05:24:15 +0900
Subject: [Zope] Hardware for Zope + ZEO
In-Reply-To: <000201c2c9b7$8360c2f0$9002c9d3@wankyu>
Message-ID: <016b01c2f3d5$ac36c790$0200a8c0@wankyu>

Hi all,

Not sure if anyone is still interested in this thread ;-)

I tried what Toby suggested, and indeed he was right:

- Installed Zope 2.6.1 with the new Catalog code. ( impressive =
performance
boost ^^ ) + Python 2.2
- Created a NeoBoard with 5,000 heavy articles containing heavy =
attachments
( simply creating this many articles took me more than a day ).
- Changed the internals of NeoBoard to use ZCatalog when creating the
threaded article list.

The major problem with this scheme was how to sort the result set in a =
such
a way that NeoBoard would still retain its threaded look.  For a couple =
of
reasons, I need two sort keys: one to sort the threads (parents) and the
other to sort their replies (childs). ZCatalog supports a single sort =
index,
so I had to come up with my own solution: slicing the result set. Since =
we
always need only a part of the whole result set that needs to be viewed =
in
the current request, NeoBoard only needs to sort that portion.=20

Admittedly, the previous versions of NeoBoard couldn't handle that many
articles without hogging the resources.  After changing the internals, =
it
pulls and sorts 5,000 articles ( brains to be exact ) and displays part =
of
them ( a pageful of them ) in less than a second even on my P4 desktop. =
(
still not so fast as the SQL version, though ;-(

Regarding the hardware...

I bought two servers: a 2-way Xeon server with a raid device (MegaRAID
dual-channel controller/raid level 5 ) and a 2-way tualatin P3 server.

The Xeon server runs ZEO with Toby's DirectoryStorage ( ReiserFS on =
290+G
raid 5 -- 72G SCSI HDD * 6 --) with the tualatin server being a ZEO =
client.
Will add two more ZEO clients to this setup.

Guess it is a viable setup for the needs I mentioned in this thread. So =
far,
so good. Pretty fast and pretty stable.

Thanks for the great product and tips, Toby. I also want to thank the =
others
who shared their ideas in this thread.

All the best,
Wankyu Choi


-----Original Message-----
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com [mailto:sean.upton@uniontrib.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:40 AM
To: wankyu@neoqst.com; tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com;
mvalente@ruido-visual.pt; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Hardware for Zope + ZEO


Toby is right about using the Catalog, I think (or some other form of
indexing). The ObjectManager methods are not going to scale well =
because:

1 - An ObjectManager/Folder has no way of batching small sets of the =
large
store.
	a. BTreeFolder 2 can batch, but only in its default sort (see 2)

2 - An ObjectManager/Folder has no way of sorting, unless you do it =
after
the fact in presentation logic (slow/bloated).

You should likely be using the catalog, and create a string-based =
FieldIndex
containing the absolute physical path of the folder, and indexes for all =
the
fields you might sort on.  Batching with a Catalog query should just be =
a
matter of getting a slice of the returned list of Brain objects.  You =
can
write a wrapper around this that will just get the objects those Brains
refer to anyway, since it is likely your application will need them. =20

What I might suggest is writing a simple product that creates a
Catalog-backed folder: it effeciently returns sorted slices of all or a
subset of objects in the folder, encapsulating access to the Catalog, =
and
creating your own API for a slightly smarter folder.  So you would be =
adding
some smart methods on top of the existing dumb methods in the =
ObjectManager
interface that the folder already exposes.  Then, each folder can have =
its
own Catalog specifically to act as a sorting engine, and its own =
batching
code that uses the sorting engine.  I'm not sure what the performance
implications of this are for your application on write (yet another =
Catalog
to write to), but the implications on read performance should improve, =
given
what your application does.

Note: supposedly, there are eventually going to be improvements to the
ZCatalog sorting code (in Zope 2.7) that will improve its performance in
general by some great degree.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Wankyu Choi [mailto:wankyu@neoqst.com]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:48 AM
To: 'Toby Dickenson'; 'Mario Valente'; zope@zope.org
Subject: RE: [Zope] Hardware for Zope + ZEO



> Is there a way in Zope to limit the returned
> results as a limit clause would do in an SQL statement?

>>The best approach is to use ZCatalog. ZCatalog means you only need to
>>load
the=20
>>articles into memory when you need them.

A threaded board needs to maintain its threaded structure. It's rather
cumbersome with SQL but efficient. In Zope, it's a snap but gives poor
performance. A folder (parent article) and its subfolders (its replies)
strucutre directly turns into a thread hierarchy.

I do use ZCatalog for all views of NeoBoard except for its default =
threaded
look.  Maybe I was stupid in not using ZCatalog for the threaded look. =
I'll
give it a try.

But I just wanted to know if there was a way to pull a limited set of
objects from a **folderish object** not using ZCatalog.=20

Not sure if your suggestion would work with NeoBoard yet, but I ran into =
a
number of situations where I should pull all objects from a folder.

I posted a simliar query months ago when I was trying to write my own =
user
folder. No definate answer yet.  The stock userfolder, for example, =
returns
every user object no matter how many there are in response to a getUsers
method call.  I wouldn't use it with my 300,000 users. Nobody would, I
suspect. There was no info on how to pull a limited set of users from a =
user
folder. And guess we can't use ZCatalog to do the job. Simply put, are =
Zope
folderish objects including BTreeFolderish objects **not** designed to =
hold
this many objects?  Well, if so, I'll just rewrite NeoBoard to use MySQL
again. That would be a lot easier :(

Thanks again for your time.

Regards,
Wankyu Choi
---------------------------------------------------------------
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          to be dealt with, but an art waiting to be performed.
  ---------------------------------------------------------------
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  NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
  3rd Floor, HMC Bldg., 730-14, Yoksam-dong, Kangnam-gu
  Seoul, Korea
  Tel: 82-2 - 501 - 7124 Fax: 82-2-501-7058
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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 20:27:35 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:27:35 -0600
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>
Message-ID: <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I tried to run the fsrecover.py script on the Data file (a copy of it),
>and it closes with:
>
>exceptions.ValueError: unpack list of wrong size
>
>So I'm figuring that the Data.fs must be one of the casualties of the
>crash ...
>
>Now, Zope is a new one for me, and really have no idea of what the Data.fs
>is even used for ... is it something that I can just delete and Zope will
>just start building it from scratch?  Or is it something that I can
>regenerate based on information from the file system?
>
>I found the following link:
>
>http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/CorruptedZODB
>
>And tried it, but it made no difference ... from what I read in the URL,
>it sounds like I'm basically removing transactions, one at a time, from
>Data.fs ... what does that affect (ie. what am I losing for each
>transaction I remove)?  how far back can/should I remove?
>  
>
The Data.fs contains your entire Zope installation. Everything else is 
replacable.

The effects of removing transactions from your ZODB are as you might 
expect: your newer data goes away one by one. In general you don't have 
much choice as to how much you lose before things get fixed.

There was (is) a very recent thread on this list about recovering data 
from a corrupt Data.fs with a lot of suggestions. That's probably more 
instructive than any single answer I can give. But -- the simple things 
to try are:

recover from backup
fsrecover.py
export/import to a new installation

You might look into DirectoryStorage for future use: I know I am.

          --jcc



From scrappy@hub.org  Wed Mar 26 20:36:55 2003
From: scrappy@hub.org (Marc G. Fournier)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:36:55 -0400 (AST)
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org> <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <20030326163603.Q7223@hub.org>

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, J Cameron Cooper wrote:

> >
> >
> >I tried to run the fsrecover.py script on the Data file (a copy of it),
> >and it closes with:
> >
> >exceptions.ValueError: unpack list of wrong size
> >
> >So I'm figuring that the Data.fs must be one of the casualties of the
> >crash ...
> >
> >Now, Zope is a new one for me, and really have no idea of what the Data.fs
> >is even used for ... is it something that I can just delete and Zope will
> >just start building it from scratch?  Or is it something that I can
> >regenerate based on information from the file system?
> >
> >I found the following link:
> >
> >http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/CorruptedZODB
> >
> >And tried it, but it made no difference ... from what I read in the URL,
> >it sounds like I'm basically removing transactions, one at a time, from
> >Data.fs ... what does that affect (ie. what am I losing for each
> >transaction I remove)?  how far back can/should I remove?
> >
> >
> The Data.fs contains your entire Zope installation. Everything else is
> replacable.

'K, what is the MySQL backend used for?  (sorry, forgot to mention in my
original post)



From rocky.burt@bricsnet.com  Wed Mar 26 20:44:48 2003
From: rocky.burt@bricsnet.com (Rocky Burt)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:44:48 -0500
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <20030326163603.Q7223@hub.org>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>
 <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com>
 <20030326163603.Q7223@hub.org>
Message-ID: <16002.4416.50978.527889@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>

The ZODB which is stored in your Data.fs is a OODBMS.  Whomever is using your Zope instance is probably storing all of his python scripts, html, dtml, zpt's, etc in the ZODB (Data.fs) but storing actual business data in a MySQL installation.  (ie, the scripts and pages used to show user data are in Data.fs, the user data itself is probably in the MySQL instance).

ps. Still at Acadia Marc? ;)

- Rocky Burt


> --------- Original Message ---------
> From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy@hub.org]
> Sent: March 26, 2003 16:36:55 -0400
> To: J Cameron Cooper, zope@zope.org
> Subject: Re: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
> 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> 
> > >
> > >
> > >I tried to run the fsrecover.py script on the Data file (a copy of it),
> > >and it closes with:
> > >
> > >exceptions.ValueError: unpack list of wrong size
> > >
> > >So I'm figuring that the Data.fs must be one of the casualties of the
> > >crash ...
> > >
> > >Now, Zope is a new one for me, and really have no idea of what the Data.fs
> > >is even used for ... is it something that I can just delete and Zope will
> > >just start building it from scratch?  Or is it something that I can
> > >regenerate based on information from the file system?
> > >
> > >I found the following link:
> > >
> > >http://www.zope.org/Members/itamar/CorruptedZODB
> > >
> > >And tried it, but it made no difference ... from what I read in the URL,
> > >it sounds like I'm basically removing transactions, one at a time, from
> > >Data.fs ... what does that affect (ie. what am I losing for each
> > >transaction I remove)?  how far back can/should I remove?
> > >
> > >
> > The Data.fs contains your entire Zope installation. Everything else is
> > replacable.
> 
> 'K, what is the MySQL backend used for?  (sorry, forgot to mention in my
> original post)
> 
> 
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From scrappy@hub.org  Wed Mar 26 20:52:22 2003
From: scrappy@hub.org (Marc G. Fournier)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:52:22 -0400 (AST)
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <16002.4416.50978.527889@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org> <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com>
 <20030326163603.Q7223@hub.org> <16002.4416.50978.527889@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
Message-ID: <20030326165006.W7223@hub.org>

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Rocky Burt wrote:

>
> The ZODB which is stored in your Data.fs is a OODBMS.  Whomever is using
> your Zope instance is probably storing all of his python scripts, html,
> dtml, zpt's, etc in the ZODB (Data.fs) but storing actual business data
> in a MySQL installation.  (ie, the scripts and pages used to show user
> data are in Data.fs, the user data itself is probably in the MySQL
> instance).

Damn, that's what I feared :(  This is going to be a nightmare :(

Okay, next question ... as far as I can tell, the site itself is working
great, from the users perspective, its just when we try to go into the
'manage' interface to add new folders and such that we have the problem
... we have yet to find a 'bad page' in the users front end ... if the
Data.fs was corrupted, based on how you describe how it works above,
shouldn't the users front end also be broken?

> ps. Still at Acadia Marc? ;)

Yup ...



From andy@agmweb.ca  Wed Mar 26 20:53:40 2003
From: andy@agmweb.ca (Andy McKay)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:53:40 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Content delivery without Zope
In-Reply-To: <20030326190856.41538.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030326190856.41538.qmail@web20508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E821354.1080107@agmweb.ca>

Or take a look a FSCacheManager, which happily writes the content of 
your site to the File System for IIS or whatever to serve. When the 
content changes in Zope its removed from the file system.

AFAIK this is the process used by Interwoven and some other system

http://www.zope.org/Members/andym/FSCacheManager
-- 
   Andy McKay



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Wed Mar 26 21:00:06 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:00:06 -0800
Subject: [Zope] ZSyncer Error
In-Reply-To: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <3E8214D6.8010403@neurobs.com>

Finaly fixed it.

I had installed CallProfiler and then had uninstalled it when its use 
slowed down zope a lot. Used ZopeProfiler instead. Because of its 
removal ZSyncer crapped ou. Still dunno why, but it seem one calnt 
uninstall CallProfiler. Just removing the productr and deleting it fro 
the prod list is not enough. I still see the icon on the control panel 
(its broken though).

I put it back in and everything worked fine. Now I just gotta figure out 
how to uninstall it cleanly.

Thanks all.

AM

AM wrote:

> I have two servers where the zsyncers are identical (well almost) the 
> admin passwords are identical and it was working fine till this 
> morning. Now I get the following error on one of them (the dev one) 
> The deployment syncer works fine, but the dev one doesnt.
>
> Any ideas??
>
> The error:
>
> Error:
>
>    * Fault
>    * <Fault -2: 'Unexpected Zope error value: \nTraceback (most recent
>      call last):\n File
>      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
>      150, in publish_module\n response = publish(request, module_name,
>      after_list, debug=debug)\n File
>      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py", line
>      114, in publish\n sys.exc_info()[2],\n File
>      "/var/local/Zope-2.6.0/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py", line 145,
>      in zpublisher_exception_hook\n log = aq_acquire(published,
>      \'__error_log__\', containment=1)\nAttributeError:
>      manage_listObjects__error_log__\n'>
>
>
> TIA
> AM
>

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  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
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From rocky.burt@bricsnet.com  Wed Mar 26 20:59:39 2003
From: rocky.burt@bricsnet.com (Rocky Burt)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:59:39 -0500
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <20030326165006.W7223@hub.org>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>
 <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com>
 <20030326163603.Q7223@hub.org>
 <16002.4416.50978.527889@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>
 <20030326165006.W7223@hub.org>
Message-ID: <16002.5307.835510.666773@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com>

> 
> Damn, that's what I feared :(  This is going to be a nightmare :(
> 
> Okay, next question ... as far as I can tell, the site itself is working
> great, from the users perspective, its just when we try to go into the
> 'manage' interface to add new folders and such that we have the problem
> ... we have yet to find a 'bad page' in the users front end ... if the
> Data.fs was corrupted, based on how you describe how it works above,
> shouldn't the users front end also be broken?
> 

Depending on in what fashion your Data.fs is corrupted... could be that only certain area's are broken.  Could be anything in the ZMI (Zope Manage Interface) triggering it.

I have no experience with trying to fix a corrupted Data.fs.  But one idea might be to transfer as much out of that Data.fs into another Data.fs as possible.  And then start redoing missing pieces in the second Data.fs (you can transfer content from one Zope to another Zope with tools like ZSyncer).

- Rocky


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 21:11:28 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:11:28 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Z SQL Method results and ZClasses
In-Reply-To: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
References: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
Message-ID: <3E821780.8050500@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm experimenting with ZSQL Methods and want to assign a ZClass to te result
>object. I've read that 'in the future' it wil be possible to do that. But..
>
>Is it possible todo this already or has anyone a solution to do this another
>way?
>  
>
Check out the Advanced tab on your ZSQL Method.

Hmm. I wrote something related to this on this list not too long ago, 
but I can't seem to find it. Anyway, there's a howto on zope.org about 
Result objects and another on direct traversal of SQL results. One of 
those or the Zope Book chapter on SQL access (towards the end) should 
tell you how to assign a class to a Result object.

(The online help for the ZSQL Advanced tab may be of some moderate use, 
too.)

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 21:16:51 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:16:51 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZPT rendered output formatting
In-Reply-To: <m27kam825p.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
References: <m27kam825p.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
Message-ID: <3E8218C3.1050207@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Can I have any control over how ZPT formats the html it produces?
>
Not much, I think, unless you want to muck with the source. I don't 
think it was a design consideration.

You can try to understand the rules it uses, of course, and work within 
them.

          --jcc




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar 26 13:25:08 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 13:25:08 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Cannot connect to zope from zope server
In-Reply-To: <E18yHAa-00067t-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
References: <E18yHAa-00067t-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <1048685107.7078.19.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 20:06, Michael Long wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have lost the ability to connect to zope from the server. I was logged
> in when I attempted to add a new folder I could not enter data in the
> input box. Upon clicking refresh I was told that I cannot connect to the
> server. I can connect from other machines so zope is alive. I went as
> far as rebooting the machine and get the same results. Where do I start
> to look to resolve this?
> 

The first thing I'd suspect is that one of your browsers is looking at a
cached version of the site.  Whether that means you're looking at a
false positive or a false negative needs to be established.

First thing I would do is verify Zope is up:
1. ps -aux   (look for Zope instance)
2. netstat -lp  (look for what's listening where)

Assuming Zope *is* running correctly, refresh the cache of the browser
that's reporting it down.  Do I read correctly that the browser having
problems is running on the *same box* as your server?  If not, perform a
tracert from that machine to your server to verify the connection.  If
so, are you connecting to localhost/127.0.0.1 or the server ip?  If the
latter, run a tracert anyway.  Give it a try with lynx or links.  Your
problem should reveal itself at some point.

If Zope isn't running, a look at the error log should give some
indication as to why not.  Feel free to post the last few log entries if
you can't tell what the problem is.

It's also possibille that a change you've made to Zope's start script
may only be taking effect now that you've restarted it.  I'd suspect
this if your remote connections are handled differently than your local
one... eg, direct vs. through httpd or by different vhost defs in httpd.

HTH,

Dyaln



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 21:27:31 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:27:31 -0600
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <20030326165006.W7223@hub.org>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org> <3E820D37.7010601@jcameroncooper.com> <20030326163603.Q7223@hub.org> <16002.4416.50978.527889@atlas.nh.bricsnet.com> <20030326165006.W7223@hub.org>
Message-ID: <3E821B43.6090108@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Damn, that's what I feared :(  This is going to be a nightmare :(
>
>Okay, next question ... as far as I can tell, the site itself is working
>great, from the users perspective, its just when we try to go into the
>'manage' interface to add new folders and such that we have the problem
>... we have yet to find a 'bad page' in the users front end ... if the
>Data.fs was corrupted, based on how you describe how it works above,
>shouldn't the users front end also be broken?
>  
>
Depends on how things are broken. I suspect that the data structures for 
appending transactions are borked. (The unpack list error seems to 
support that.) In cases of Data.fs corruption, this is not an uncommon 
symptom. The good news is that you can still read things. At worst, you 
end up doing a bunch of copy/pasting of source between browser windows. 
If you can install ZSyncer, go for it. Else, the Zope export/import 
facilites should help a lot.

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 21:44:58 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:44:58 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Debugging
In-Reply-To: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8D0@SERVER01>
References: <73374DA82EB4D4118A0E00E01898261013C8D0@SERVER01>
Message-ID: <3E821F5A.2080408@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I'm working on an intranet Zwiki and want to use it for project management.
>I need to know all the details. Using an IDE I can walk through all the code
>and this provides a very good learning curve for me.
>
Well, that's an awfully dilligent due-dilligence there.

>I've installed python23 on my system but zope is not using it because it
>uses python21 that came with the installation. If I use python23 to run
>p2.py, I get an error saying that python21.dll is not compatible.
>
>My biggest problem now is to run zope with pyton23. Any idea's ??
>  
>
Yep. That would be a big problem. Zope 2.6 is "officially supported" on 
Python 2.1.3, and is said to work on Python 2.2. It may or may not deal 
well with Python 2.3a. I haven't heard one way or the other.

If you really want to try, you'll have to compile it yourself from 
source, using your python2.3. This may be more difficult on Windows, as 
it doesn't ship with a compiler.

Unless you have a very pressing reason to use that version of Python, my 
suggestion is to just forget about it. Even if you have something that 
uses Python 2.3 and 2.3 only, try to access it out of process, which is 
probably easier than working with Zope under an untested Python version.

          --jcc



From mlong@datalong.com  Wed Mar 26 21:53:03 2003
From: mlong@datalong.com (Michael Long)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Cannot connect to zope from zope server (Solved)
Message-ID: <E18yIpT-0001R7-00@server18.pronicsolutions.com>

After poking around my system I discovered that my hosts file was
modified early this am. The ip/hostname mapping must have been cached in
my browser untill I did a refresh. Now to find out why the host file
changed...

Thanks for the input,
Mike

> On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 20:06, Michael Long wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have lost the ability to connect to zope from the server. I was logged
> > in when I attempted to add a new folder I could not enter data in the
> > input box. Upon clicking refresh I was told that I cannot connect to the
> > server. I can connect from other machines so zope is alive. I went as
> > far as rebooting the machine and get the same results. Where do I start
> > to look to resolve this?
> > 
> 
> The first thing I'd suspect is that one of your browsers is looking at a
> cached version of the site.  Whether that means you're looking at a
> false positive or a false negative needs to be established.
> 
> First thing I would do is verify Zope is up:
> 1. ps -aux   (look for Zope instance)
> 2. netstat -lp  (look for what's listening where)
> 
> Assuming Zope *is* running correctly, refresh the cache of the browser
> that's reporting it down.  Do I read correctly that the browser having
> problems is running on the *same box* as your server?  If not, perform a
> tracert from that machine to your server to verify the connection.  If
> so, are you connecting to localhost/127.0.0.1 or the server ip?  If the
> latter, run a tracert anyway.  Give it a try with lynx or links.  Your
> problem should reveal itself at some point.
> 
> If Zope isn't running, a look at the error log should give some
> indication as to why not.  Feel free to post the last few log entries if
> you can't tell what the problem is.
> 
> It's also possibille that a change you've made to Zope's start script
> may only be taking effect now that you've restarted it.  I'd suspect
> this if your remote connections are handled differently than your local
> one... eg, direct vs. through httpd or by different vhost defs in httpd.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dyaln
> 
> 
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From tpassin@mitretek.org  Wed Mar 26 22:11:42 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:11:42 -0500
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1CB80@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Rocky Burt]
> Depending on in what fashion your Data.fs is corrupted...=20
> could be that only certain area's are broken.  Could be=20
> anything in the ZMI (Zope Manage Interface) triggering it.
>=20
> I have no experience with trying to fix a corrupted Data.fs. =20
> But one idea might be to transfer as much out of that Data.fs=20
> into another Data.fs as possible.  And then start redoing=20
> missing pieces in the second Data.fs (you can transfer=20
> content from one Zope to another Zope with tools like ZSyncer).
>=20

You could try to export each top-level folder, and then import each one
into a new Zope installation.  With luck, you would end up with
everything that works in the new Zope, leaving only badly broken pieces
to be pieced together as best you can.  That is probably what I would
try first.

Cheers,

Tom P


From fmartins@hetnet.nl  Wed Mar 26 22:25:49 2003
From: fmartins@hetnet.nl (Fernando Martins)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:25:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Searching a Gadfly database
In-Reply-To: <E214AA9F-5F4D-11D7-AA45-0003936F69BA@sagacity.com.au>
Message-ID: <LPBBLICABBLMEDAGGKOFGEMICLAA.fmartins@hetnet.nl>

Matthew Lindfield Seager wrote:
[...]
> The manual says something about using python and regular expressions or
> something instead of "LIKE" but it's enough of a battle for me puzzling
> out this Zope stuff let alone learning some Python too...
>

a) Consider a Gadfly table User(ID, Name, ...) and you want to search for
names in it.

b) Make a Z SQL called Names, which retrieves the Primary Key and the field
where you want to search, like this:

 Select ID, Name from User

c) Have a form with an input field called 'name' and  a submit button
calling  findName.

d) Create a Python Script called findName with code like this:
_________
rs = container.qryNames()           # retrieve ALL the records
ids = []                            # make an empty list
for rec in rs:                      # loop over all the records
    if rec.NAME.find(name) > -1:    # found a sub-string in the current
record?
        ids.append(rec.STAFFID)     # append it to the list
return ids
__________

AND an argument called 'name'

That's it. You can use the list with ids in a zope page template or a dtml
page to show, e.g., the full records.

Look for 'sequences' and strings in Python docs. You can also use list
comprehension instead of the loop. Probably faster.

HTH,
Fernando



From aodor@cnr.gob.mx  Wed Mar 26 21:24:23 2003
From: aodor@cnr.gob.mx (Alberto Odor)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:24:23 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
Message-ID: <b5t5q8$v99$1@main.gmane.org>

I have installed and runned Zope and Plone under Windows. However I'm new to
Linux and Zope under Linux.

I have done this:

1) installed Linux 8.0 which is working OK.
2) d/l zope-2.6.1-linux2-i386.tgz
3) decompiled and installed zope with directions of the Zope Book and the
Zope Bible
4) mv the installation to: /usr/local/Zope

if I run the ./start script I get:
1) ZServer HTTP host:AomServidor port:8080
2) ZServer FTP    host:AomServidor port:8021
3) ZServer PCGI usr/local/Zope/var/pcgi.soc
4) z2 STARTUP EXEPTION: file /usr/local/Zope/z2.py line 84 - a user was not
specified to set uid to; fix this to start as root

If I try to access Zope Management console with http://localhost:8080 or
http://127.0.0.1:8080 or http://AomServidor:8080
i get:
1) The connection was refused when attempting to connect to
http://........:8080

I'm sure it must be some permissions or config problem, but my Linux
knowledge doesn't let me fix it.
If you can help me, it will save me hours of trial and error.


Alberto Odor, MD
Mexico City





From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 23:22:54 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:22:54 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
In-Reply-To: <b5t5q8$v99$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b5t5q8$v99$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E82364E.20707@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>if I run the ./start script I get:
>1) ZServer HTTP host:AomServidor port:8080
>2) ZServer FTP    host:AomServidor port:8021
>3) ZServer PCGI usr/local/Zope/var/pcgi.soc
>4) z2 STARTUP EXEPTION: file /usr/local/Zope/z2.py line 84 - a user was not
>specified to set uid to; fix this to start as root
>
>If I try to access Zope Management console with http://localhost:8080 or
>http://127.0.0.1:8080 or http://AomServidor:8080
>i get:
>1) The connection was refused when attempting to connect to
>http://........:8080
>  
>
In order to start Zope as root (necessary to use port 80 on many unixish 
setups) you have to specify a normal system user to drop into when Zope 
is done using root powers -- it will not run as root for security reasons.

If you do not start it as root this is not a problem.

Please see docs/SETUID.txt for more information.

          --jcc



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar 26 15:28:43 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 15:28:43 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
In-Reply-To: <b5t5q8$v99$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <b5t5q8$v99$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1048692523.19279.33.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 21:24, Alberto Odor wrote:
> 4) z2 STARTUP EXEPTION: file /usr/local/Zope/z2.py line 84 - a user was not
> specified to set uid to; fix this to start as root

There's your problem. 

Unless you want to run Zope as root (you don't) you'll need to specify a
user to run Zope as.  I'd suggest making a username called zope, but you
can also run as nobody if this isn't a highly secured production
server.  

To specify a user, pass -u USERNAME to z2.py in your start script.

HTH,

Dylan



From David.Bear@asu.edu  Wed Mar 26 23:44:38 2003
From: David.Bear@asu.edu (David Bear)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:44:38 -0700
Subject: [Zope] do I need expat?
Message-ID: <20030326164438.E1367@asu.edu>

I have been lurking through plone and had zope die hard with an error
-- something like it could find or import expat -- I'm guessing this
is pyexpat xml module..

Do I need get it, or does this error mean something else.


-- 
David Bear
College of Public Programs/ASU
Mail Code 0803


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Wed Mar 26 23:53:54 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:53:54 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zopelabs.com problems?
In-Reply-To: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027797@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027797@eiger.cs.utwente.nl>
Message-ID: <3E823D92.7040607@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>does anyony know what's the problem with the Zope Labs site?
>(I don't know who is the owner of the domain, that's why I post on this
>mailinglist.)
>
>Yesterday I got a page saying the domainname is expired, today the domain
>isn't found.
>  
>
I haven't seen any problems recently. (Today.) Perhaps DNS issues near you?

       --jcc



From aodor@cnr.gob.mx  Thu Mar 27 00:03:31 2003
From: aodor@cnr.gob.mx (Alberto Odor)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:03:31 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
References: <b5t5q8$v99$1@main.gmane.org> <3E82364E.20707@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <b5tf4j$m26$1@main.gmane.org>

"J Cameron Cooper" <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3E82364E.20707@jcameroncooper.com...
> >
> >
> >if I run the ./start script I get:
> >1) ZServer HTTP host:AomServidor port:8080
> >2) ZServer FTP    host:AomServidor port:8021
> >3) ZServer PCGI usr/local/Zope/var/pcgi.soc
> >4) z2 STARTUP EXEPTION: file /usr/local/Zope/z2.py line 84 - a user was
not
> >specified to set uid to; fix this to start as root
> >
> >If I try to access Zope Management console with http://localhost:8080 or
> >http://127.0.0.1:8080 or http://AomServidor:8080
> >i get:
> >1) The connection was refused when attempting to connect to
> >http://........:8080
> >
> >
> In order to start Zope as root (necessary to use port 80 on many unixish
> setups) you have to specify a normal system user to drop into when Zope
> is done using root powers -- it will not run as root for security reasons.
>
> If you do not start it as root this is not a problem.
>
> Please see docs/SETUID.txt for more information.
>
>           --jcc
>
>
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I tried that and it didn't work. Could the problem be that my RedHat 8
installation has python 2.2.1?
If so, would I solve the problem installing python 2.1.3? can 2.2.1 and
2.1.3 coexist in the same server?

Alberto
>





From chris123@magma.ca  Thu Mar 27 00:06:26 2003
From: chris123@magma.ca (Chris H)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:06:26 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zopelabs.com problems?
In-Reply-To: <3E823D92.7040607@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027797@eiger.cs.utwente.nl> <3E823D92.7040607@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <200303261906.26754.chris123@magma.ca>

On March 26, 2003 06:53 pm, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> >does anyony know what's the problem with the Zope Labs site?
> >(I don't know who is the owner of the domain, that's why I post on this
> >mailinglist.)
> >
> >Yesterday I got a page saying the domainname is expired, today the domain
> >isn't found.
>
> I haven't seen any problems recently. (Today.) Perhaps DNS issues near you?

Im getting the same from this end, Ottawa Canada since monday.

An error occured while loading http://www.zopelabs.com/:
Unknown host www.zopelabs.com

Was wondering if anyone from Canada can get to it??

/ch


From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Thu Mar 27 00:18:55 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:18:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D622@desi2>

They will definitely co-exist - install Python 2.1.3 from source in
/usr/local, and change the binary name for /usr/local/bin/python to
/usr/local/bin/python2.1.  Install Zope from source by using that pyt=
hon:

e.g. 'cd [zope-src-dir]; python2.1 wo_pcgi.py'

Sean

-----Original Message-----
=46rom: Alberto Odor [mailto:aodor@cnr.gob.mx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:04 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux



"J Cameron Cooper" <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com> escribi=F3 en el men=
saje
news:3E82364E.20707@jcameroncooper.com...
> >
> >
> >if I run the ./start script I get:
> >1) ZServer HTTP host:AomServidor port:8080
> >2) ZServer FTP    host:AomServidor port:8021
> >3) ZServer PCGI usr/local/Zope/var/pcgi.soc
> >4) z2 STARTUP EXEPTION: file /usr/local/Zope/z2.py line 84 - a use=
r was
not
> >specified to set uid to; fix this to start as root
> >
> >If I try to access Zope Management console with http://localhost:8=
080 or
> >http://127.0.0.1:8080 or http://AomServidor:8080
> >i get:
> >1) The connection was refused when attempting to connect to
> >http://........:8080
> >
> >
> In order to start Zope as root (necessary to use port 80 on many un=
ixish
> setups) you have to specify a normal system user to drop into when =
Zope
> is done using root powers -- it will not run as root for security r=
easons.
>
> If you do not start it as root this is not a problem.
>
> Please see docs/SETUID.txt for more information.
>
>           --jcc
>
>
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I tried that and it didn't work. Could the problem be that my RedHat =
8
installation has python 2.2.1?
If so, would I solve the problem installing python 2.1.3? can 2.2.1 a=
nd
2.1.3 coexist in the same server?

Alberto
>




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From danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr  Thu Mar 27 00:34:35 2003
From: danielle.d-avout@wanadoo.fr (danielle.d-avout)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:34:35 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zopelabs.com problems?
References: <837ED66D4414D411A6D0204C4F4F502001027797@eiger.cs.utwente.nl> <3E823D92.7040607@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <004701c2f3f8$a47d28a0$e626fea9@AHAH>

----- Original Message -----
From: "J Cameron Cooper" <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zopelabs.com problems?


> >
> >
> >does anyony know what's the problem with the Zope Labs site?
> >(I don't know who is the owner of the domain, that's why I post on this
> >mailinglist.)
> >
> >Yesterday I got a page saying the domainname is expired, today the domain
> >isn't found.
> >
> >
> I haven't seen any problems recently. (Today.) Perhaps DNS issues near
you?
>
>        --jcc

the domain  has expired on  the 23rd, bought  again  on the 25th
there is a  "DNS issue" near me as  well

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From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Thu Mar 27 00:44:00 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 00:44:00 +0000
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org>
Message-ID: <200303270044.00350.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Wednesday 26 March 2003 2:43 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

> ConflictError: database conflict error (

This is the oid of your object that has a problem. I guess this is the oid 
assigned to your new new folder.
>oid 0000000000003397, 

This is the serial number of the revision of this object that was loaded at 
the start of this transaction. All zeros means it want loaded - it was newly 
created.
> serial now 0000000000000000)

This is the serial number of the most recent version in the storage. But the 
object is newly created.... it shouldnt be in there! It looks like 
FileStorage has assigned the new object an oid that is already in use, but 
then noticed its mistake when comitting the transaction.
> serial was 034b1b936fdaccb3, 


I dont see why this would be caused by a corrupt data.fs, so your data might 
still be intact. Some things to try.....

0. If you havent already, take a backup of data.fs and data.fs.index

1. Are you using ZEO? if so, which version? try without.

2. Are there any unusual messages in the stupid log file that might give a 
clue about why it has assigned a bogus oid?

3. Try shutting down zope/zeo, deleting data.fs.index, and restarting. This 
file is a cache used to improve startup time. This first restart will be a 
little slower than normal because FileStorage is rebuilding its index - and 
hopefully this will fix your problem.

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From jamesd@mena.org.au  Thu Mar 27 01:39:44 2003
From: jamesd@mena.org.au (jamesd@mena.org.au)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:39:44 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
Message-ID: <10418.203.217.13.22.1048729184.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>

I have a Zope server running with two instances of plone, "Plone1" and
"Plone2".
plone2 is a demo site with a user "Demo" having the role 'Manager' available
to the public. plone1 is a regular plone site.

If I log in to plone2 as the user Demo, then go to the following url:
http://my.server/plone2/plone1
The permissions are acquired from the demo site giving full Manager access
to my main plone site. This is obviously a serious problem.

Any ideas how I can stop the permissions from being acquired under that
situation without breaking anything?

-James.












From aodor@cnr.gob.mx  Thu Mar 27 01:49:52 2003
From: aodor@cnr.gob.mx (Alberto Odor)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:49:52 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D622@desi2>
Message-ID: <b5tlc5$jmq$1@main.gmane.org>

OK Sean:

As you told me I did the following:

logged as root
Installed Python2.1 from source and its working fine
Installed Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.1

I chmod o+t var

If I try to ./start being logged as root
I get a message: A user was not specified to setuid to;
I also get a message saying that /usr/local/Zope/var directory isn't owned
by root
(I have read the SETUID.txt document but could not come out with an answer)

If I try to ./start being logged as aodor  (./start -u aodor)
I get a message: access denied

Can you tell me what's missing?
Can ZServer and Apache run together or do I have to shutdown Apache to start
ZServer?
What should the permissions, Owner and Group for the var directory be?

Alberto




<sean.upton@uniontrib.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D622@desi2...
They will definitely co-exist - install Python 2.1.3 from source in
/usr/local, and change the binary name for /usr/local/bin/python to
/usr/local/bin/python2.1.  Install Zope from source by using that python:

e.g. 'cd [zope-src-dir]; python2.1 wo_pcgi.py'

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Alberto Odor [mailto:aodor@cnr.gob.mx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:04 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux



"J Cameron Cooper" <jccooper@jcameroncooper.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3E82364E.20707@jcameroncooper.com...
> >
> >
> >if I run the ./start script I get:
> >1) ZServer HTTP host:AomServidor port:8080
> >2) ZServer FTP    host:AomServidor port:8021
> >3) ZServer PCGI usr/local/Zope/var/pcgi.soc
> >4) z2 STARTUP EXEPTION: file /usr/local/Zope/z2.py line 84 - a user was
not
> >specified to set uid to; fix this to start as root
> >
> >If I try to access Zope Management console with http://localhost:8080 or
> >http://127.0.0.1:8080 or http://AomServidor:8080
> >i get:
> >1) The connection was refused when attempting to connect to
> >http://........:8080
> >
> >
> In order to start Zope as root (necessary to use port 80 on many unixish
> setups) you have to specify a normal system user to drop into when Zope
> is done using root powers -- it will not run as root for security reasons.
>
> If you do not start it as root this is not a problem.
>
> Please see docs/SETUID.txt for more information.
>
>           --jcc
>
>
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I tried that and it didn't work. Could the problem be that my RedHat 8
installation has python 2.2.1?
If so, would I solve the problem installing python 2.1.3? can 2.2.1 and
2.1.3 coexist in the same server?

Alberto
>




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From gagenellina@softlab.com.ar  Thu Mar 27 01:27:11 2003
From: gagenellina@softlab.com.ar (Gabriel Genellina)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:27:11 -0300
Subject: [Zope] How to access ZODB from python code
In-Reply-To: <16000.45407.255412.582837@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324190624.01e84ba0@192.168.0.115>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030324190624.01e84ba0@192.168.0.115>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030326211925.026a8400@192.168.0.115>

At 25/3/2003 20:43, you wrote:

>  > I want to get access to some Zope objects stored in ZODB, from 
> *outside* of
>  > any other Zope object (so I dont have anything to call 
> getPhysicalRoot() or
>  > restrictedTraverse() on) but from *inside* python code running in the 
> Zope
>  > process.
>  > This doesnt work:
>  >
>  >          from Zope import Zope
>  >          app = Zope.app()
>  >          app.restrictedTraverse(...)
>  >
>  > The Zope server freezes, I guess there is a deadlock there.
>
>Does this already happens for the first time?
>
>It would be understandable when it happes after some successes
>unless you close the ZODB connection when you are finished:
>
>        Zope.app() opens a ZODB connection which must be closed
>        later. There is a connection pool (of 7 connections, by default).
>        The application blocks when there are no free connections.

Yes, we do close the connection. This is the full fragment:

     app = Zope.app()
     obj = app.restrictedTraverse(path)
     get_transaction().commit()
     app._p_jar.close()
     del app
     return obj

The server freezes inside the restrictedTraverse call (never returns).


Gabriel Genellina
Softlab SRL



From scrappy@hub.org  Thu Mar 27 02:28:55 2003
From: scrappy@hub.org (Marc G. Fournier)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:28:55 -0400 (AST)
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <200303270044.00350.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org> <200303270044.00350.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <20030326222816.E7223@hub.org>

Woo hoo!!  Removing the index file appears to have done it ... have to do
some more testing, but I could actually create a folder!! :)

Thanks :)

On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Toby Dickenson wrote:

> On Wednesday 26 March 2003 2:43 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>
> > ConflictError: database conflict error (
>
> This is the oid of your object that has a problem. I guess this is the oid
> assigned to your new new folder.
> >oid 0000000000003397,
>
> This is the serial number of the revision of this object that was loaded at
> the start of this transaction. All zeros means it want loaded - it was newly
> created.
> > serial now 0000000000000000)
>
> This is the serial number of the most recent version in the storage. But the
> object is newly created.... it shouldnt be in there! It looks like
> FileStorage has assigned the new object an oid that is already in use, but
> then noticed its mistake when comitting the transaction.
> > serial was 034b1b936fdaccb3,
>
>
> I dont see why this would be caused by a corrupt data.fs, so your data might
> still be intact. Some things to try.....
>
> 0. If you havent already, take a backup of data.fs and data.fs.index
>
> 1. Are you using ZEO? if so, which version? try without.
>
> 2. Are there any unusual messages in the stupid log file that might give a
> clue about why it has assigned a bogus oid?
>
> 3. Try shutting down zope/zeo, deleting data.fs.index, and restarting. This
> file is a cache used to improve startup time. This first restart will be a
> little slower than normal because FileStorage is rebuilding its index - and
> hopefully this will fix your problem.
>
> --
> Toby Dickenson
> http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson
>


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar 26 19:33:02 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 19:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <10418.203.217.13.22.1048729184.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>
References: <10418.203.217.13.22.1048729184.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>
Message-ID: <1048707181.7223.66.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 01:39, jamesd@mena.org.au wrote:
> If I log in to plone2 as the user Demo, then go to the following url:
> http://my.server/plone2/plone1
> The permissions are acquired from the demo site giving full Manager access
> to my main plone site. This is obviously a serious problem.

Yep.  This is a huge vulnerability in certain configurations.

But the *real* problem is not that plone1 methods can be applied to
plone2 objects.  That is a feature, not a bug. :-)

Rather, the problem is that you have implicitly *permitted* this to take
place by using common roles across sites.  I suspect that you're hardly
alone in setting up your site this way.  In fact, I was auditing one of
my own sites and stumbled across a variant of this technique that
allowed arbitrary access to virtually any object on the server.  Yikes!

I'm working on a howto for this concern... but in the interim, I'd
strongly recommend taking three steps to secure *any* multi-user,
multi-host Zope app:

1. Reserve the Manager role for server administration only.  Just as
importantly, don't *ever* assign a Manager proxy role unless you are
certain you've worked out all the implications of that method being
applied to arbitrary objects.

2. Use different roles for different groups of users.  Create
site-specific, function-specific roles like site1_admin, site2_admin,
site1_user, etc.  Use server-wide roles  sparingly and define them
narrowly (send_mail, add_user, etc).  

3. Disable/restrict "view folder contents" permissions for all folders
that are parents of your site root folders.  Leaving that permission
turned on for Anonymous (the default) allows virtually anyone to obtain
details about your server setup that are quite handy for setting up
cross-site scripting exploits.  It's shockingly easy to do this and
there are few (if any) reasons why you'd want that feature enabled for
parents of your site roots anyway.

HTH,

Dylan




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Wed Mar 26 19:45:35 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 26 Mar 2003 19:45:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
In-Reply-To: <b5tlc5$jmq$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D622@desi2>
 <b5tlc5$jmq$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1048707934.7223.75.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 01:49, Alberto Odor wrote:
> If I try to ./start being logged as root
> I get a message: A user was not specified to setuid to;
> I also get a message saying that /usr/local/Zope/var directory isn't owned
> by root
> (I have read the SETUID.txt document but could not come out with an answer)
> 
> If I try to ./start being logged as aodor  (./start -u aodor)
> I get a message: access denied
> 

You're almost there.  :-)

The "-u aodor" belongs *in* your start script, provided as an argument
to z2.py.  Your start script must be executed *by* root if you connect
to port 80 (or any other port below 1024).  Setting the -u option allows
Zope to function as this less-privileged user *after* privileged tasks
(e.g., connecting to port 80) have been performed.

The aodor user will also need the appropriate permissions, particularly
on the var directory.  In the past (pre 2.5), I saw better results by
installing *as* some user besides root, but I'm not sure if that makes a
difference any more... now it's just habit.

HTH,

Dylan




From aodor@cnr.gob.mx  Thu Mar 27 04:17:07 2003
From: aodor@cnr.gob.mx (Alberto Odor)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:17:07 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D622@desi2> <b5tlc5$jmq$1@main.gmane.org> <1048707934.7223.75.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <b5ttvv$f79$1@main.gmane.org>

GREAT!!!

I have Zope running and also Plone on top of Zope

One problem :(
If I go to ZMI and go to the Plone site and view the site, it looks great
However if I try to load the Plone site using http://localhost I get the
Apache front page instead of the Plone site

Alberto




"Dylan Reinhardt" <zope@dylanreinhardt.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1048707934.7223.75.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com...
> On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 01:49, Alberto Odor wrote:
> > If I try to ./start being logged as root
> > I get a message: A user was not specified to setuid to;
> > I also get a message saying that /usr/local/Zope/var directory isn't
owned
> > by root
> > (I have read the SETUID.txt document but could not come out with an
answer)
> >
> > If I try to ./start being logged as aodor  (./start -u aodor)
> > I get a message: access denied
> >
>
> You're almost there.  :-)
>
> The "-u aodor" belongs *in* your start script, provided as an argument
> to z2.py.  Your start script must be executed *by* root if you connect
> to port 80 (or any other port below 1024).  Setting the -u option allows
> Zope to function as this less-privileged user *after* privileged tasks
> (e.g., connecting to port 80) have been performed.
>
> The aodor user will also need the appropriate permissions, particularly
> on the var directory.  In the past (pre 2.5), I saw better results by
> installing *as* some user besides root, but I'm not sure if that makes a
> difference any more... now it's just habit.
>
> HTH,
>
> Dylan
>
>
>
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From jamesd@mena.org.au  Thu Mar 27 04:27:12 2003
From: jamesd@mena.org.au (jamesd@mena.org.au)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:27:12 +1000 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <1048707181.7223.66.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
References: <1048707181.7223.66.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <11752.203.217.13.22.1048739232.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>

Having to create a new Manager and Reviewer role for each of the portals I
host and setting it up to work correctly (considering checking for the role
'Manager' is hard coded in many places) would be an enormous task, so this
is not feasable.

Considering the exploit does not affect folders (going to
plone2/portals/manage_main does not work, while plone2/plone1/manage_main
does, where 'portals' is a folder) is there a way to force the permissions
to be inherited from 'container' and not 'context'?


> Yep.  This is a huge vulnerability in certain configurations.
>
> But the *real* problem is not that plone1 methods can be applied to
> plone2 objects.  That is a feature, not a bug. :-)
>
> Rather, the problem is that you have implicitly *permitted* this to
> take place by using common roles across sites.  I suspect that you're
> hardly alone in setting up your site this way.  In fact, I was auditing
> one of my own sites and stumbled across a variant of this technique
> that
> allowed arbitrary access to virtually any object on the server.  Yikes!
>
> I'm working on a howto for this concern... but in the interim, I'd
> strongly recommend taking three steps to secure *any* multi-user,
> multi-host Zope app:
>
> 1. Reserve the Manager role for server administration only.  Just as
> importantly, don't *ever* assign a Manager proxy role unless you are
> certain you've worked out all the implications of that method being
> applied to arbitrary objects.
>
> 2. Use different roles for different groups of users.  Create
> site-specific, function-specific roles like site1_admin, site2_admin,
> site1_user, etc.  Use server-wide roles  sparingly and define them
> narrowly (send_mail, add_user, etc).
>
> 3. Disable/restrict "view folder contents" permissions for all folders
> that are parents of your site root folders.  Leaving that permission
> turned on for Anonymous (the default) allows virtually anyone to obtain
> details about your server setup that are quite handy for setting up
> cross-site scripting exploits.  It's shockingly easy to do this and
> there are few (if any) reasons why you'd want that feature enabled for
> parents of your site roots anyway.
>
> HTH,
>
> Dylan





From ddn@vip.cybercity.dk  Thu Mar 27 07:05:15 2003
From: ddn@vip.cybercity.dk (Danny Nielsen)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:05:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] object lookups
Message-ID: <oprmoly1paf3fs5e@localhost>

Hi

I need to lookup objects of the same type from where I stand and all the 
way to the root-object (all mailhost-type objects) so that I might choose 
one of them from a pulldown-list.
Is this possible?

Regards

Danny Nielsen


From ddn_ddn@yahoo.dk  Thu Mar 27 07:37:06 2003
From: ddn_ddn@yahoo.dk (Danny)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 07:37:06 -0000
Subject: [Zope] newbie - class attributes!
Message-ID: <b5u9n2+qqrb@eGroups.com>

Hi again




Im doing some product-stuff and have reached a point where its 
necessary that som instances of the same product-type share a property 
(class attribute). How do I do this in Zope and Python?




Regards




Danny Nielsen




From jean@upfrontsystems.co.za  Thu Mar 27 08:35:32 2003
From: jean@upfrontsystems.co.za (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:35:32 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTree cookie patch
Message-ID: <3E82B7D4.8050104@upfrontsystems.co.za>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------000600080804010702040606
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Philipp

The attached patch fixes it for me. It sets a path for the cookie.
It gets the path either from the 'path' attribute (if root_object
is a TreeObjectWrapper) or from 'getPhysicalPath'. The 'path'
attribute on TreeObjectWrapper is initialised using 'getPhysicalPath'
if it was not passed in.

The patch changes the signature of TreeObjectWrapper.__init__,
and makes assumptions about the use of the 'path' attribute.

-- 
Jean Jordaan
http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za

--------------000600080804010702040606
Content-Type: text/plain;
 name="ZopeTree-cookie-path.patch"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline;
 filename="ZopeTree-cookie-path.patch"

diff -ru /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py
--- /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py	Thu Mar 13 10:34:38 2003
+++ ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py	Thu Mar 27 10:03:14 2003
@@ -29,8 +29,11 @@
 
     __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1
 
-    def __init__(self, path, obj):
-        self.path = path
+    def __init__(self, obj, path=None):
+        if path:
+            self.path = path # njj: How is this intended to be used?
+        else:
+            self.path = '/'.join(obj.getPhysicalPath());
         self.object = obj
         self.id = obj.getId()
         self.folderish = obj.isPrincipiaFolderish
diff -ru /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py
--- /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py	Thu Mar 27 09:27:54 2003
+++ ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py	Thu Mar 27 10:19:41 2003
@@ -103,8 +103,11 @@
     def __init__(self, root_object, id_attr='getId', children_attr='objectValues',
                  request=None, request_variable='tree-expansion'):
         tree_expansion = request.get(request_variable, "")
+        # If root_object is a TreeObjectWrapper, it has a path attribute
+        path = getattr(root_object, 'path',
+                       '/'.join(root_object.getPhysicalPath())) 
         if tree_expansion:
-            request.RESPONSE.setCookie(request_variable, tree_expansion) # set a cookie right away
+            request.RESPONSE.setCookie(request_variable, tree_expansion, path=path) # set a cookie right away
             expanded_nodes = self.decodeTreeExpansion(tree_expansion)
         else:
             expanded_nodes = []

--------------000600080804010702040606--



From felix@chaptereight.com  Thu Mar 27 09:09:29 2003
From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 09:09:29 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZPT rendered output formatting
References: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1CAF6@email1.mitretek.org>
Message-ID: <m2znnh6ura.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>

"Passin, Tom" <tpassin@mitretek.org> writes:

> [Felix Ulrich-Oltean]
> 
> > Can I have any control over how ZPT formats the html it produces?
> > Specifically, source like this:
> 
> Why do you care?  A browser should not.  If you want to read the output
> from time to time, and all else fails, use a pretty-printer like Tidy.

Grrrr.  I *don't* really care, but it seems browsers and designers
do.  E.g. when the designers put a 1px 'spacer' image in a <td> (which
btw winds me up), if TAL puts the td and img on different lines, IE
formats the td as thought there is something in it.

More generally, the designers are getting annoyed that the formatting
of their markup is not being preserved.

I wish I had the time and energy to convince people not to use dozens
of tables filled with 1px images, but I don't.

> (No matter how a program formats markup, it will not suit everyone
> anyway).

No, but if I at least knew how ZPT did it I might be able to solve
some of my problems.

Felix.



From CVizitiu@gbif.org  Thu Mar 27 09:27:06 2003
From: CVizitiu@gbif.org (Vizitiu, Ciprian)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:27:06 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZPT rendered output formatting
Message-ID: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FC06@home3>

> > > Can I have any control over how ZPT formats the html it produces? 
> > > Specifically, source like this:
> > 
> > Why do you care?  A browser should not.  If you want to read the 
> > output from time to time, and all else fails, use a pretty-printer 
> > like Tidy.
> 
> Grrrr.  I *don't* really care, but it seems browsers and 
> designers do.  E.g. when the designers put a 1px 'spacer' 
> image in a <td> (which btw winds me up), if TAL puts the td 
> and img on different lines, IE formats the td as thought 
> there is something in it.

And you seem to forget the NS 4.xx. Not widely used today but still! Until
we get perfect browsers it is a good idea to have degree of control of how
the HTML gets formatted.

> More generally, the designers are getting annoyed that the 
> formatting of their markup is not being preserved.

Well... It's not really the designer but the HTML coder that gets annoyed.
Most of the times it is the same person... And let's face it, in the current
status of affairs in browser world they have their reasons!

> I wish I had the time and energy to convince people not to 
> use dozens of tables filled with 1px images, but I don't.

Do you honestly think that html-coders/designers enjoy the "universal" 1px
hack? Why convince the page designers? :-o Try the people that design the
standards... And the rendering engines in browsers!

Anyway, for various reasons we need some control over how we get the html
formatted.


From einar.ness.jensen@hf.ntnu.no  Thu Mar 27 10:32:52 2003
From: einar.ness.jensen@hf.ntnu.no (Einar =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E6ss?= Jensen)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:32:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] VHM and proxypass (again)
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327094313.02dd6fe0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>


I have put  a VHM in my root-folder and i have these proxypass-rules in=20
httpd.conf for apache:

ProxyPass /test_fak=20
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/test_fak/
ProxyPass /hf http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/hf/
ProxyPass /zope_info=20
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/zope_info/
ProxyPass /testing_fakultet=20
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/testing_fakultet/
ProxyPass /postjournal=20
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/postjournal/
ProxyPass /Control_panel=20
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/Control_Panel
ProxyPass /misc_=20
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/misc_
ProxyPass /p_ http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/p_


This works ALMOST perfect.
I have two issues:

when inside ZMI, i get something like=20
this:http://mime.hf.ntnu.no:8080/test/wrong_ZMI/

1: so I guess i have a wrong redirect for my zclasses icons.
AND
2: The stylesheet for the ZMI is not loading.

What can I do to fix this?
I fixed it once by adding a siteroot, but that totally screweed up my=20
webdav connections (duplicating folders and files), and is not an option.

Best regards

Einar N=E6ss Jensen



--=20
Einar N=E6ss Jensen
Avdelingsingeni=F8r EDB-HF
735 90750



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 27 10:35:04 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:35:04 +0000
Subject: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope] HELP - POSKeyError 000000000001efcd - Data.fs
 corruption
References: <87A772F8-5ACE-11D7-B732-000A27E49636@bwanazulia.com> <200303201246.35510.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>
Message-ID: <3E82D3D8.4080506@nipltd.com>

Toby Dickenson wrote:
> 
> I think chris is guessing that your zodb corruption is limited to a dangling 
> reference inside the zcatalog btree, so that reindexing the *catalog* 
> followed by a pack will purge all traces of the corruption. Chris, can you 
> share how you reached this?

Past experience with edge-case BTree bugs. rebuilding the BTree seemed to clear 
the problem sometimes. No real evidence, mind :-S

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 27 10:39:44 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:39:44 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Catalog problem/only searchable when logged in
References: <F66y9CMdZpDsiIWeTlh0000a91f@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <3E82D4F0.9030401@nipltd.com>

Michael Havard wrote:
> 
> I found the CVS listing for CMFStaging but no documentation. Can anyone 
> point me to documentation about how CMFStaging works, how to install it 
> etc.

http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-cmf/2003-March/018015.html

...is the best I've found ;-)

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 27 10:38:36 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:38:36 +0000
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
References: <000501c2eef1$5b6b6890$e9068f80@sys.virginia.edu>
Message-ID: <3E82D4AC.1080601@nipltd.com>

Kristina Quimson Buenafe wrote:
> The high-level problem I'm trying to solve is to get web server log
> statistics out of Z2.log so I can analyze them for my thesis.  

What lead you to choose AWStats over the other log analysis software that is 
available?

> Well, the problem is there pretty loud and clear ;-)
> You need to find out why AWStats can't find its config file...
> 
> Ok - awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf is in the cgi-bin directory with
> awstats.pl

I'm afraid I know nothing about AWStats so can't tell you if that's correct or 
not. What ways are there to get help for AWStats?

> I think I followed the setup instructions correctly (putting the cgi-bin and
> icon directories in my Zope root directory and changing the settings in
> awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf, will check them again.

Are you using Apache in front of Zope? If not, maybe you should consider it and 
then run AWStats as a CGI under Apache rather than trying torun it as a CGI 
under Zope...

cheers,

Chris



From felix@chaptereight.com  Thu Mar 27 10:55:00 2003
From: felix@chaptereight.com (Felix Ulrich-Oltean)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 10:55:00 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZPT rendered output formatting
References: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FC06@home3>
Message-ID: <m2vfy56pvf.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>

"Vizitiu, Ciprian" <CVizitiu@gbif.org> writes:

Ok, I'm a bit calmer now, having realised where the actual mistake
was and that it was, of course, our mistake :)

> > > > Can I have any control over how ZPT formats the html it produces? 
> > > > Specifically, source like this:
> > > 
> > > Why do you care?  A browser should not.  If you want to read the 
> > > output from time to time, and all else fails, use a pretty-printer 
> > > like Tidy.
> > 
> > Grrrr.  I *don't* really care, but it seems browsers and 
> > designers do.  E.g. when the designers put a 1px 'spacer' 
> > image in a <td> (which btw winds me up), if TAL puts the td 
> > and img on different lines, IE formats the td as thought 
> > there is something in it.

To be fair to ZPT, I've just realised that my statement above is not
correct - it does not insert \n between elements.  THe only thing it
does is sometimes split up the tag itself when it has dynamic
attributes, e.g.

<img tal:attributes="src z/b/c" width="20" height="50">

gets rendered as

<img width="20" height="50"
     src="http://z/b/c">

which is fine.

> > More generally, the designers are getting annoyed that the 
> > formatting of their markup is not being preserved.
> 
> Well... It's not really the designer but the HTML coder that gets annoyed.
> Most of the times it is the same person... 

Yes - that's the case here.

> > I wish I had the time and energy to convince people not to 
> > use dozens of tables filled with 1px images, but I don't.
> 
> Do you honestly think that html-coders/designers enjoy the "universal" 1px
> hack? Why convince the page designers? :-o Try the people that design the
> standards... And the rendering engines in browsers!

I think we (my company) also need to move away from the 'must look
good in back browsers' where look good means 'the same'.  We're starting
to get there with our html/css - i.e. coding to standards, not
browsers, but there's a long way to go, not least in educating the
clients.

> Anyway, for various reasons we need some control over how we get the html
> formatted.

It would just be nice for it to be predictable at least, but I think I
was just plain mistaken before, so I'm not as concerned now :)

Felix.



From maxm@mxm.dk  Thu Mar 27 11:28:18 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:28:18 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZPT rendered output formatting
In-Reply-To: <m2vfy56pvf.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
References: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FC06@home3> <m2vfy56pvf.fsf@zaphod.felixvulrich.net>
Message-ID: <3E82E052.3020103@mxm.dk>

Felix Ulrich-Oltean wrote:

>To be fair to ZPT, I've just realised that my statement above is not
>correct - it does not insert \n between elements.  THe only thing it
>does is sometimes split up the tag itself when it has dynamic
>attributes, e.g.
>
><img tal:attributes="src z/b/c" width="20" height="50">
>
>gets rendered as
>
><img width="20" height="50"
>     src="http://z/b/c">
>
>which is fine.
>

Yes it seems that it does word wrap for the generated code. But I have 
never seen it do anything that changed  how it was rendered in the browser.

regards Max M



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 27 11:48:02 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:48:02 +0000
Subject: [Zope] POSKeyError, help, please.
References: <604A23DC-5D6D-11D7-8D7B-000393109F7C@ispvip.biz>
Message-ID: <3E82E4F2.8090400@nipltd.com>

Hi Stefan,

Stefan A. Nagey wrote:
> 
> I work at an ISP, we keep our customer records in zope.
> 
> Somehow, i seem to have lost records for nearly 1/4 of our customers.

I would suggest going to your last nightly backup...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Thu Mar 27 11:52:37 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 11:52:37 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD97EF72E@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <3E82E605.9020506@nipltd.com>

McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for any ZCGI documentation. So far all I have found is the
> release notes on zope.org. Any pointers will be appreciated, thanks.

What are you looking to achieve with ZCGI?

cheers,

Chris



From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Thu Mar 27 13:04:46 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:04:46 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808CE7@PROSERV>

Hi,

I have a cgi script to uploading files to a file system I am trying to test.
I have posted questions about localfs and extfile that seem to fit my needs
but I have not found a solution that a user can run the product from ex.
index_html. I can only run the product through the management interface. I
am trying to avoid setting up user accounts.

I can only found cgi information in the online help and the install notes
which are not much help. And of course, I am having problems getting it to
work. I was just trying to find another way to solve my problem.

I am still have allot to learn with Zope/Python and how the products
interact and my company is too cheap to send me to training. I am starting
to understand most of the answers sent back to me but sometimes I don't if
for example the "objectManager" is a dtml, python issue, or both.

I know most of this part of message has nothing to do with the original
question but I guess I needed to vent and I feel better. Bad day at work and
I have only been here for an hour. :^)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:53 AM
To: McDonnell, Larry
Cc: 'Zope@Zope. Org' (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation


McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for any ZCGI documentation. So far all I have found is the
> release notes on zope.org. Any pointers will be appreciated, thanks.

What are you looking to achieve with ZCGI?

cheers,

Chris


From Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com  Thu Mar 27 14:03:35 2003
From: Paul_Jeyaraj@infosys.com (Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:33:35 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Remote user folder.
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540630E514@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

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=20
I want to use remote user folder in my Zope installation. I have zope
running behind IIS. I want IIS to take care of authentication. Can
anyone tell me the steps involved in doing the same? Thank you.
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Paul.

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From jp@warpix.org  Thu Mar 27 14:07:00 2003
From: jp@warpix.org (John Poltorak)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:07:00 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Initial login
Message-ID: <20030327140700.S83@warpix.org>

Hi,

I'm very new to Zope and in fact have yet to learn what all the fuss is 
about, but would like to find out...

What username & password do I use when I want to connect to:-

http://localhost:8080/manage


Does this use passwd or inituser?


Also, can someone tell me which program gets called when I use 
'manage' when connecting?



-- 
John




From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Thu Mar 27 14:20:04 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:20:04 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Virtuel hosting
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC542@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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If I have a product made in python installed on my zope-server, let's
say an addressbook application, and I want to be able to change some
things in the application for some of the sites on the same zope-server.
It could be that some users didn't like some of the properties displayed
or something like that. Some of the forms ect. are defined in the /dtml
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style=3D'font-size:
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on my zope-server,
let&#8217;s say an addressbook application, and I want to be able to =
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From lennart@regebro.nu  Thu Mar 27 14:20:52 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:20:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Initial login
Message-ID: <3E8308C4.7000308@regebro.nu>

John Poltorak wrote:
> What username & password do I use when I want to connect to:-
> 
> http://localhost:8080/manage

If you are on Unix, you use the username and password that was displayed
when installing.

If you are on Windows, you use the username and password you entered
when installing.

In any case you can create an emergency user by running
On unix: python zpasswd.py access
On Windows: bin\python zpasswd.py access
and after restarting the server you can use that username+password to login.

> Also, can someone tell me which program gets called when I use 
> 'manage' when connecting?

Zope.




From jp@warpix.org  Thu Mar 27 14:30:46 2003
From: jp@warpix.org (John Poltorak)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:30:46 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Python v2.2.2
Message-ID: <20030327143046.T83@warpix.org>


I get a number of warnings about using Python v2.2.2.

Is Zope likely to support this version in the near future?


-- 
John





From einjen@nvg.ntnu.no  Thu Mar 27 14:31:29 2003
From: einjen@nvg.ntnu.no (Einar =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E6ss?= Jensen)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:31:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] VHM and proxypass (again)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327094313.02dd6fe0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327152912.02d30008@pop.nvg.ntnu.no>

At 11:32 27.03.2003 +0100, Einar N=E6ss Jensen wrote:
>I have put  a VHM in my root-folder and i have these proxypass-rules in=20
>httpd.conf for apache:
>
>ProxyPass /Control_panel=20
>http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/Control_Panel
>ProxyPass /misc_=20
>http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/misc_
>ProxyPass /p_ http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/p_
>
>
>This works ALMOST perfect.
>I have two issues:
>
>when inside ZMI, i get something like=20
>this:http://mime.hf.ntnu.no:8080/test/wrong_ZMI/

Well. I figured it out myselfe:
TO get the stylesheet of zope:
ProxyPass /Control_Panel/Products/institutt/FagMappe/ziconImage


and to get the icons of zclasses, for each zclass type:
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mime.hf.ntnu.no:80/Control_Panel/=
Products/institutt/FagMappe/ziconImage




From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 27 14:37:15 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:37:15 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Python v2.2.2
In-Reply-To: <20030327143046.T83@warpix.org>
References: <20030327143046.T83@warpix.org>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1048779435@[172.16.160.8]>

This is an FAQ. Checkin the mailinglist archives.

-aj

--On Donnerstag, 27. M=E4rz 2003 14:30 Uhr +0000 John Poltorak=20
<jp@warpix.org> wrote:

>
>
> I get a number of warnings about using Python v2.2.2.
>
> Is Zope likely to support this version in the near future?
>
>
> --
> John
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
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From casey@zope.com  Thu Mar 27 14:44:51 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:44:51 -0500
Subject: [Zope] object lookups
In-Reply-To: <oprmoly1paf3fs5e@localhost>
References: <oprmoly1paf3fs5e@localhost>
Message-ID: <200303270944.51139.casey@zope.com>

You can use::
 =20
  superValues('Mail Host')

hth,

-Casey

On Thursday 27 March 2003 02:05 am, Danny Nielsen wrote:
> Hi
>=20
> I need to lookup objects of the same type from where I stand and all th=
e=20
> way to the root-object (all mailhost-type objects) so that I might choo=
se=20
> one of them from a pulldown-list.
> Is this possible?
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> Danny Nielsen
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -=20
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>=20



From casey@zope.com  Thu Mar 27 14:55:36 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:55:36 -0500
Subject: [Zope] newbie - class attributes!
In-Reply-To: <b5u9n2+qqrb@eGroups.com>
References: <b5u9n2+qqrb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <200303270955.36710.casey@zope.com>

Class attributes can be used in Zope just like in normal Python with one =
large=20
caveat: Changes to class attributes are not persisted. Therefore it is on=
ly=20
useful for constant values that are changed only at dev time.

To share values that change, you can use Zope's acquisition machinery. A=20
simple way to do this is to create a property in a folder above all of th=
e=20
instances of your class (like in the root folder). You can then acquire t=
his=20
property value like its an attribute of the object:

v =3D self.some_property_name

However, it would probably be better to have a sensible default such as:

try:
    v =3D self.some_property_name
except AttributeError:
    v =3D some_default

You can also be explicit in your code by declaring this value as acquired=
:

from Acquisition import Acquired

class Stuff(SimpleItem):

  some_propery_name =3D Acquired()

  def someMethod(self):
      try:
          v =3D self.some_property_name
      except AttributeError:
          v =3D some_default
      ...

Then at least you have some indication where "property_name" comes from i=
n=20
your code.

hth,

-Casey

On Thursday 27 March 2003 02:37 am, Danny wrote:
> Hi again
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Im doing some product-stuff and have reached a point where its=20
> necessary that som instances of the same product-type share a property=20
> (class attribute). How do I do this in Zope and Python?
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Regards
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Danny Nielsen
>=20
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -=20
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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>=20



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 27 07:19:28 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 07:19:28 +0000
Subject: [Zope] VHM and proxypass (again)
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327094313.02dd6fe0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327094313.02dd6fe0@pop.hf.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <1048749567.7078.89.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

Instead of chasing down every sub-folder you might use, try replacing
what you've got with:

-------

ProxyPass /
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/VirtualHostRoot/

ProxyPassReverse /
http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/VirtualHostRoot/

-------

That doesn't do anything to restrict access to Zope, it just passes off
requests.  If you want to do more sophisticated pattern matching, you're
probably going to want to look into RewriteRule.

HTH,

Dylan



On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 10:32, Einar Næss Jensen wrote:
> I have put  a VHM in my root-folder and i have these proxypass-rules in 
> httpd.conf for apache:
> 
> ProxyPass /test_fak 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/test_fak/
> ProxyPass /hf http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/hf/
> ProxyPass /zope_info 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/zope_info/
> ProxyPass /testing_fakultet 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/testing_fakultet/
> ProxyPass /postjournal 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/postjournal/
> ProxyPass /Control_panel 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/Control_Panel
> ProxyPass /misc_ 
> http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/misc_
> ProxyPass /p_ http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/mymachine.no:80/p_
> 
> 
> This works ALMOST perfect.
> I have two issues:
> 
> when inside ZMI, i get something like 
> this:http://mime.hf.ntnu.no:8080/test/wrong_ZMI/
> 
> 1: so I guess i have a wrong redirect for my zclasses icons.
> AND
> 2: The stylesheet for the ZMI is not loading.
> 
> What can I do to fix this?
> I fixed it once by adding a siteroot, but that totally screweed up my 
> webdav connections (duplicating folders and files), and is not an option.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Einar Næss Jensen
> 
> 



From ziofunk@tiscali.it  Thu Mar 27 15:15:36 2003
From: ziofunk@tiscali.it (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:15:36 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: ZClass is what I need?
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327155503.03958830@10.10.10.101>

Hi.

I am trying to develop a product and I need to define some kind of object 
having a fixed HTML structure and some extra properties. I have to provide 
users with an interface (into the Zope management console) to create 
instances, type the values for the properties, and browse the local 
filesystem to select the file that will be included into the fixed html 
structure.

In other words when they create a new product they should be given an 
interface where they can put values for properties and browse a file on 
their filesystem. When they press the button the new objetc must be made 
available to readers.

Can I do this using ZClass? How can I embed some predefined contents in the 
ZClass? How can I have the instance to handle some uploadable contents?

Thank you all for your help.
Fabio



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 27 07:33:26 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 07:33:26 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Virtuel hosting
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC542@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC542@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <1048750406.7223.102.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 14:20, Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> Hi
> 
>  
> 
> If I have a product made in python installed on my zope-server, letÿs
> say an addressbook application, and I want to be able to change some
> things in the application for some of the sites on the same
> zope-server. It could be that some users didnÿt like some of the
> properties displayed or something like that. Some of the forms ect.
> are defined in the /dtml folder under the product. How can I handle
> that?
> 

Two ways: 

1. Make changes to the specific instances that different behavior is
expected from.  You'll probably want to add to the product's management
interface to make this work well.

2. Refactor the product to be "skinnable" such that different features
can be swapped in for the defaults in the ZMI.

HTH,

Dylan



From gilles@pilotsystems.net  Thu Mar 27 15:50:03 2003
From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:50:03 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: ZClass is what I need?
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030327155503.03958830@10.10.10.101>
Message-ID: <08b901c2f478$88354300$0801a8c0@provence>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fabio Rolando" <ziofunk@tiscali.it>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: [Zope] Newbie: ZClass is what I need?


> Hi.
>
> I am trying to develop a product and I need to define some kind of object
> having a fixed HTML structure and some extra properties. I have to provide
> users with an interface (into the Zope management console) to create
> instances, type the values for the properties, and browse the local
> filesystem to select the file that will be included into the fixed html
> structure.
>
> In other words when they create a new product they should be given an
> interface where they can put values for properties and browse a file on
> their filesystem. When they press the button the new objetc must be made
> available to readers.
>
> Can I do this using ZClass? How can I embed some predefined contents in
the
> ZClass? How can I have the instance to handle some uploadable contents?

You should make a ZClass that inherits from OFS:File and maybe from
ZCatalog:Catalogpathaware (if you want to have indexable/searcheable
objects)
You can add attributes through the propertysheets (types are limited to what
is supported by properties (string, int, date...).
You can predefine some content with the constructor (generally, a Python
script that's *outside* the ZClass).

--Gilles




From seanw@surehand.com  Thu Mar 27 15:50:53 2003
From: seanw@surehand.com (Sean Winstead)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:50:53 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Accessing httplib from a Zope Python script
Message-ID: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>

Hi,

I'm a Zope newbie who's more familiar with C# than Python. I've
encountered an obstacle and am unable to find what's wrong with my
approach. In order to solve the problem, I have searched this group's
archive as well as other resources on the web. Some posts earlier this
month were related to the problem but didn't address it exactly.

I'm trying to implement support for PayPal Instant Payment Notification
(IPN). IPN sends a POST to a URL on our Zope server. I decided to
implement a Python script to handle the POST. The first task of the
script is to send a POST back to PayPal in order to verify the
transaction originated from PayPal.

To do that, I learned that I could use the features in the httplib
module. However, if I have a crappy test script like the following:

  import httplib
  result = httplib.HTTP("http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr")
  return result

Then I receive the following error when posting to the page:

  Error Type: Unauthorized
  Error Value: You are not allowed to access HTTP in this context

In my search for help, I learned that Zope allows Script objects to
access a subset of the Python modules, so I assumed that was the reason
for the error. In my search for help, I happened upon some articles
about using External methods to access modules. So I put the "result =
httplib..." line into function verifyPayPal, module ipnSupport.py within
the Zope\Extensions subfolder. I then added the extension to the same
folder containing the Python script. The extension has ID ipnSupport,
referening the specified script and function. When I run the following
script...

  result = verifyPayPal
  return result

The following error is returned:

  Error Type: NameError
  Error Value: global name 'verifyPayPal' is not defined

The same error occurs if I call ipnSupport instead of verifyPayPal. If I
try to import module ipnSupport then the following error is returned:

  Error Type: ImportError
  Error Value: import of "ipnSupport" is unauthorized

So I guess my questions are:

1. Why can I not import httplib into a Zope Python script object?

2. Is an external method only callable from a DTML object? If it can be
called from a script object, how do I do that?

Thanks for any help or clues you can provide.

--
Sean Winstead




From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Thu Mar 27 16:05:26 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:05:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing httplib from a Zope Python script
In-Reply-To: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>
References: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1048784726@[172.16.160.8]>

see lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/README.txt

--On Donnerstag, 27. M=E4rz 2003 8:50 Uhr -0700 Sean Winstead=20
<seanw@surehand.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm a Zope newbie who's more familiar with C# than Python. I've
> encountered an obstacle and am unable to find what's wrong with my
> approach. In order to solve the problem, I have searched this group's
> archive as well as other resources on the web. Some posts earlier this
> month were related to the problem but didn't address it exactly.
>
> I'm trying to implement support for PayPal Instant Payment Notification
> (IPN). IPN sends a POST to a URL on our Zope server. I decided to
> implement a Python script to handle the POST. The first task of the
> script is to send a POST back to PayPal in order to verify the
> transaction originated from PayPal.
>
> To do that, I learned that I could use the features in the httplib
> module. However, if I have a crappy test script like the following:
>
>   import httplib
>   result =3D httplib.HTTP("http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr")
>   return result
>
> Then I receive the following error when posting to the page:
>
>   Error Type: Unauthorized
>   Error Value: You are not allowed to access HTTP in this context
>
> In my search for help, I learned that Zope allows Script objects to
> access a subset of the Python modules, so I assumed that was the reason
> for the error. In my search for help, I happened upon some articles
> about using External methods to access modules. So I put the "result =3D
> httplib..." line into function verifyPayPal, module ipnSupport.py within
> the Zope\Extensions subfolder. I then added the extension to the same
> folder containing the Python script. The extension has ID ipnSupport,
> referening the specified script and function. When I run the following
> script...
>
>   result =3D verifyPayPal
>   return result
>
> The following error is returned:
>
>   Error Type: NameError
>   Error Value: global name 'verifyPayPal' is not defined
>
> The same error occurs if I call ipnSupport instead of verifyPayPal. If I
> try to import module ipnSupport then the following error is returned:
>
>   Error Type: ImportError
>   Error Value: import of "ipnSupport" is unauthorized
>
> So I guess my questions are:
>
> 1. Why can I not import httplib into a Zope Python script object?
>
> 2. Is an external method only callable from a DTML object? If it can be
> called from a script object, how do I do that?
>
> Thanks for any help or clues you can provide.
>
> --
> Sean Winstead
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
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From =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Thu Mar 27 16:14:38 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-15?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 17:14:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Accessing httplib from a Zope Python script
In-Reply-To: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>
References: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>
Message-ID: <11719685786.20030327171438@elvix.com>

On  Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:50:53 -0700 GMT (..16:50 where i live(GMT+1) )
Sean Winstead asked the Zope mailinglist about the following:

.....
SW> So I put the "result =3D
SW> httplib..." line into function verifyPayPal, module ipnSupport.py wit=
hin
SW> the Zope\Extensions subfolder. I then added the extension to the same
SW> folder containing the Python script. The extension has ID ipnSupport,
SW> referening the specified script and function. When I run the followin=
g
SW> script...

SW>   result =3D verifyPayPal
SW>   return result

SW> The following error is returned:

SW>   Error Type: NameError
SW>   Error Value: global name 'verifyPayPal' is not defined

result =3D context.verifyPayPal()
should do the trick :)

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 27 09:00:44 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 09:00:44 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <11752.203.217.13.22.1048739232.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>
References: <1048707181.7223.66.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <11752.203.217.13.22.1048739232.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>
Message-ID: <1048755644.7225.155.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 04:27, jamesd@mena.org.au wrote:
> Having to create a new Manager and Reviewer role for each of the portals I
> host and setting it up to work correctly (considering checking for the role
> 'Manager' is hard coded in many places) would be an enormous task, so this
> is not feasable.

That's unfortunate, since it's the only reliably secure way of setting
up multi-user, multi-host services.    

The recommendation about restricting the display of folder contents is
still pretty high value and can probably be done painlessly.  Cross-site
scripting exploits are far harder to perform once Zope stops giving away
detailed information on what stuff is available where.  It's not a
complete fix, but it's a huge step in the right direction.

> 
> Considering the exploit does not affect folders (going to
> plone2/portals/manage_main does not work, while plone2/plone1/manage_main
> does, where 'portals' is a folder) 

It would appear that you have restricted access to the portals folder. 
That's a good thing.  

But it has nothing to do with whether the attacked object is a folder or
not.  It is possible to call *any* method of plone1 on *any* object of
plone2 or its parents.  The degree to which such an attempt works is
dependent on little more than how roles are configured.

is there a way to force the permissions
> to be inherited from 'container' and not 'context'?

That's already how it works.  The problem you have is that the roles for
both these sites are defined in the *same* container.  Unless you define
roles/users a bit deeper in the tree, how can Zope possibly know
where/how roles ought to be partitioned?

I can appreciate the effort that is probably involved in retrofitting
sites with hard-coded roles... but if security is important to you, your
best bet is to combine Zope's excellent security framework with general
best practices in designing and implementing security schemes. 

HTH,

Dylan




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 27 09:21:57 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 09:21:57 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Accessing httplib from a Zope Python script
In-Reply-To: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>
References: <000401c2f478$a95666e0$6401a8c0@NewHome>
Message-ID: <1048756917.7078.173.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 15:50, Sean Winstead wrote:

> Then I receive the following error when posting to the page:
> 
>   Error Type: Unauthorized
>   Error Value: You are not allowed to access HTTP in this context
> 

Ignore the issues with your script.  Your *real* problem is that PayPal
won't accept HTTP for this connection, you must use HTTPS.

Posting HTTPS from Zope is a bit more difficult, given that vanilla
Python 2.1 doesn't support SSL.  What you want is a library called
M2Crypto.  If you're on Windoze, you're in luck, b/c there are binaries
available... but if you're on Linux, you've got some compiling to do. 
(You'll need SWIG set up before you can compile M2Crypto.)  

See: http://www.zope.org/Members/dylanr/secure_post for hints on how to
proceed once you've got M2Crypto in place.

HTH,

Dylan



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Thu Mar 27 10:01:10 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 10:01:10 +0000
Subject: SV: [Zope] Virtuel hosting
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC543@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC543@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <1048759269.7223.207.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 16:51, Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Do you mean that i have to code my way out of it, or that i can have like more instances of let's say the /dtml/index_html.dtml file. I'm sorry, but I'm quite new at this *s*
> 

This should give you what you need to set up basic skinning:
http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1001104105

HTH,

Dylan




From lozinski@jobmart.com  Thu Mar 27 18:16:04 2003
From: lozinski@jobmart.com (lozinski@jobmart.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 10:16:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope in Manufacturing
In-Reply-To: <20030327170015.26495.31609.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <1030327101604.15415AAC/s.lozinski@maya>

Is anyone interested in using zope in manufacturing?

Regards
Christopher Lozinski
lozinski@jobmart.com
510 795 6086 (office)
510 599 6086 (cell)


From tpassin@mitretek.org  Thu Mar 27 18:33:29 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:33:29 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZPT rendered output formatting
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601D1CC67@email1.mitretek.org>

[ Felix Ulrich-Oltean]

> I wish I had the time and energy to convince people not to use dozens
> of tables filled with 1px images, but I don't.
>=20

Hear, hear!

Cheers,

Tom P


From mattficken@mail.com  Thu Mar 27 19:17:12 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:17:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Connection Refference
Message-ID: <20030327191712.73289.qmail@mail.com>

I am creating a product which has classes that override the Folder class so that my class controls access to some folders that it creates. From within the Folder class,
specificially when the _setOb, _getOb and _delOb methods are called, is there a way to  get access to the connection object/reference to the user that is making changes to the folders? I know there is the RESPONSE object for the product constructors, but I need a way to get to it from within the Folder class.
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From mtran@shufflemasterrd.com  Thu Mar 27 19:47:34 2003
From: mtran@shufflemasterrd.com (Mike Doanh Tran)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:47:34 -0700
Subject: [Zope] executing perl script from Zope
Message-ID: <20030327194735.1EAF9A18@postman>

Hi,

Can anyone show me how do I run a local perl script from Zope?
I want to execute a perl script  when a user clicks on a button from 
a webpage.

Thanks in advance for any suggestion,

Mike


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 27 20:15:47 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:15:47 -0600
Subject: [Zope] var/Data.fs: any way to regenerate from scratch?
In-Reply-To: <20030326222816.E7223@hub.org>
References: <20030325223423.F5645@hub.org> <200303270044.00350.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <20030326222816.E7223@hub.org>
Message-ID: <3E835BF3.1040104@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>Woo hoo!!  Removing the index file appears to have done it ... have to do
>some more testing, but I could actually create a folder!! :)
>
Hum. That sounds about right, actually. A bad index would explain why 
object pointers would be way off.

Still doesn't satisfy me as to the error on fsrecover, but, hey, if it 
works I'm not going to argue.

(Does fsrecover use the index (through the ZODB libs) if it exists?)

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 27 20:35:03 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:35:03 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Z SQL Method results and ZClasses
In-Reply-To: <001301c2f451$5bdcf1d0$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
References: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net> <3E821780.8050500@jcameroncooper.com> <001301c2f451$5bdcf1d0$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
Message-ID: <3E836077.1040108@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>In the advanced tab I'm only able to assign python based classes en no
>Zclasses.
>I want to assign a ZClass, is it possible to inherit a Zclass in a python
>  
>
Oops. Good point.

Looking at the Pluggable Brains source, it looks like it still depends 
on traditional Python modules.  Since it really just needs a class, it 
shouldn't be hard to patch App.Extensions (and maybe Shared.DC.ZRDB.DA) 
to work with ZClasses, though I don't really know anything about how 
ZClasses implemented, as I don't use 'em.

If you can't do it, maybe a collector issue will get some action in time.

The workaround is to make a regular module that inherits your ZClass 
somehow. Again, can't say how.

          --jcc



From alet@librelogiciel.com  Thu Mar 27 21:03:46 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:03:46 +0100
Subject: [Zope] executing perl script from Zope
In-Reply-To: <20030327194735.1EAF9A18@postman>
References: <20030327194735.1EAF9A18@postman>
Message-ID: <20030327210345.GA2004@mail.librelogiciel.com>

On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:47:34PM -0700, Mike Doanh Tran wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone show me how do I run a local perl script from Zope?
> I want to execute a perl script  when a user clicks on a button from 
> a webpage.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any suggestion,

Download ZShellScripts from :

        http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/
        
They will give you instant access to Perl, PHP, Lisp, Bash, and         
if you download the CVS version, Ruby.

examples are included.

bye,

Jerome Alet


From =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com>  Thu Mar 27 21:09:53 2003
From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?= <lists@elvix.com> (=?ISO-8859-1?B?R2VpciBC5mtob2x0?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:09:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Z SQL Method results and ZClasses
In-Reply-To: <3E836077.1040108@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
 <3E821780.8050500@jcameroncooper.com>
 <001301c2f451$5bdcf1d0$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
 <3E836077.1040108@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <15437401680.20030327220953@elvix.com>

On  Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:35:03 -0600 GMT (..21:35 where i live(GMT+1) )
J Cameron Cooper told the Zope mailinglist the following:

>>In the advanced tab I'm only able to assign python based classes en no
>>Zclasses.
>>I want to assign a ZClass, is it possible to inherit a Zclass in a pyth=
on
>> =20
>>
JCC> Oops. Good point.

JCC> Looking at the Pluggable Brains source, it looks like it still depen=
ds=20
JCC> on traditional Python modules.  Since it really just needs a class, =
it=20
JCC> shouldn't be hard to patch App.Extensions (and maybe Shared.DC.ZRDB.=
DA)=20
JCC> to work with ZClasses, though I don't really know anything about how=
=20
JCC> ZClasses implemented, as I don't use 'em.

JCC> If you can't do it, maybe a collector issue will get some action in =
time.

hmmm.. i am almost 100% sure i have assigned Zclasses to
result objects.. It may be some versions ago, but as ZSQLMethods
have been rather quiet for some time now, there is no reason it should
not be possible still..

Cannot remember how, though, but i think you can act as if it is a
regular python class, and just fill in the name in the class-field
under the advanced tab..

give it a shot, Ralph, it might just work ;)

--
Geir B=E6kholt



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 27 21:54:08 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:54:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Initial login
In-Reply-To: <3E8308C4.7000308@regebro.nu>
References: <3E8308C4.7000308@regebro.nu>
Message-ID: <3E837300.3020106@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>> What username & password do I use when I want to connect to:-
>>
>> http://localhost:8080/manage
>
>
> If you are on Unix, you use the username and password that was displayed
> when installing.
>
> If you are on Windows, you use the username and password you entered
> when installing. 

Which is to say, Zope maintains its own user system (though products 
exist to allow it to use your system users.)

>> Also, can someone tell me which program gets called when I use 
>> 'manage' when connecting?
>
> Zope.

'manage' is a web-published method of whatever object you're calling it 
on (via the URL), which in this case it the root folder of your Zope 
installation. It creates the Zope Management Interface (ZMI).

          --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 27 21:57:48 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:57:48 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Python v2.2.2
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1048779435@[172.16.160.8]>
References: <20030327143046.T83@warpix.org> <2147483647.1048779435@[172.16.160.8]>
Message-ID: <3E8373DC.1060704@jcameroncooper.com>

> This is an FAQ. Checkin the mailinglist archives.

Or check the README for development Zope in CVS (cvs.zope.org).

http://cvs.zope.org/Zope/README.txt?rev=1.12.4.4&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup

          --jcc



From wayne@c-media.com.au  Thu Mar 27 22:42:36 2003
From: wayne@c-media.com.au (Wayne Connolly)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:42:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
Message-ID: <20030327224236.26764.qmail@web40007.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, 

I tried to pack my Data.fs file from control panel. It
is on freebsd, zope2.6 and Data.fs is 49.5MB.

A permission denied occured on the file because i had
incorrect permission set. ie. zope process was owned
by a different user than was Data.fs.

The following error occurs now when i access zope.

Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this
resource. 

exceptions.ValueError

Sorry, a site error occurred.

Traceback (innermost last): 

Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module

Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish 
Module Zope, line 146, in zpublisher_exception_hook 
Module ZODB.ZApplication, line 61, in
__bobo_traverse__ 
Module UserDict, line 14, in __getitem__ 
Module ZODB.Connection, line 507, in setstate 
Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 619, in load 
Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 594, in _load 
ValueError: I/O operation on closed file 

Should i user fsrecovery tool? I still havents
restarted zope? and have backed up all var files...


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From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Thu Mar 27 22:56:46 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 16:56:46 -0600
Subject: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808CE7@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808CE7@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <3E8381AE.4050809@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I have a cgi script to uploading files to a file system I am trying to test.
>I have posted questions about localfs and extfile that seem to fit my needs
>but I have not found a solution that a user can run the product from ex.
>index_html. I can only run the product through the management interface. I
>am trying to avoid setting up user accounts.
>  
>
You don't need CGI for this (and in fact, I'm not even sure how it would 
fit in: in such a configuration Zope doesn't run CGI, is is run via CGI.)

One of the rules of Zope is that whatever you can do from the management 
interface you can do anywhere. There really is no magic involved. Now, 
products aren't going to give you clever interfaces for inclusion with 
your code, because they can't even begin to know what you have in mind. 
What you can do, however, is to treat their management interfaces as a 
template to make your own interface. Say you want to allow someone to 
create a File from wherever. You like index_html, so we'll use that. 
(I'm using File rather than ExtFile for this example so that those 
playing along at home aren't left out; the principle is exactly the same.)

Here's a crash course on how to do that:

How does File add a File instance to some folder? Watch the URLs in the 
ZMI when you do that from the pull-down. It calls

manage_addProduct/OFSP/fileAdd

on some Folder(ish) object. This is defined in the __init__.py in 
lib/python/Products/OFSP

As you can see, it has the various fields in an HTML form that are 
necessary to create a File. What is the action of the form? Take a look 
at the source. It is

manage_addFile

relative to the current Folderish object. So, calling that on some 
folder with a request containing the parameters like the form constructs 
will create a File and add it to that folder.

So now you want to create your own interface for adding Files. Copy the 
form code out of the File's add page, and stick it in your own page 
(index_html), changing the formatting if you like. Setting the action to 
manage_addFile is the most important part. You would have to do the same 
thing for the edit pages, if you want to be able to edit.

There are some problems here, like 'manage_addFile' redirects to 
'manage_main'. If you don't like that, you can either create a script 
that calls 'manage_addFile(REQUEST)' and returns/redirects where you 
want, or you can write your own file-add function that calls the class 
constructor to make the instance and adds it to the folder with 
'_setObject' in a similar manner to the original code. Alternatively, 
you can create your own product that subclasses File and change the 
behaviour of whatever functions you like.

          --jcc



From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Thu Mar 27 23:38:50 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 15:38:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Python/Zope bindings for Aspell
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303271529040.19214-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

I'm looking for a Python wrapper to Aspell.  Because the document to be
spell checked is structured, I'd prefer an interface similar to the C++
Asepell API.  Using Aspell in the pipe mode is a possibility, but direct 
access to the Aspell API would lead to a cleaner system.




From terry@adroit.net  Fri Mar 28 02:10:55 2003
From: terry@adroit.net (Terry Kerr)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:10:55 +1100
Subject: [Zope] Anyone else have this problem?
Message-ID: <3E83AF2F.2030601@adroit.net>

Hi,

Just tried to install Zope-2.6.1 from src on my vanilla redhat7.1 system.  Its 
running python 2.1.1 (I know...I should upgrade)

It compiled, fine, but when I run I get this:

2003-03-28T12:41:48 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception
Traceback (innermost last):
   File /home/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/z2.py, line 582, in ?
   File /home/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 45, in startup
   File /home/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/Zope/App/startup.py, line 24, in ?
   File /home/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/__init__.py, line 18, in ?
SystemError: _PyImport_FixupExtension: module ZODB.cPersistence not loaded

I did some simple imports, and discovered that cPersistence does infact import 
so long as ZODB.Timestamp is imported first.

Python 2.1.1 (#1, Nov 28 2001, 09:41:59)
[GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-81)] on linux2
Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import ExtensionClass
 >>> import ZODB
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
   File "/home/zope/Zope-2.6.1-src/lib/python/ZODB/__init__.py", line 18, in ?
     import cPersistence, Persistence
SystemError: _PyImport_FixupExtension: module ZODB.cPersistence not loaded
 >>> import ZODB.TimeStamp
 >>> import ZODB

So i simply added 'import TimeStamp' above 'import cPersistence' in 
ZODB/__init__.py and now Zope starts without problems.

I saw a few posts relating to this problem, but no solutions.  I tried 
compiling/running the same 2.6.1 source file on another linux system and didn't 
have any troubles!

terry


-- 
Terry Kerr (terry@adroit.net)
Adroit Internet Solutions (www.adroit.net)
Phone: +61 3 9563 4461
Fax: +61 3 9563 3856



From seanw@surehand.com  Fri Mar 28 04:36:27 2003
From: seanw@surehand.com (Sean Winstead)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:36:27 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Accessing httplib from a Zope Python script (cont.)
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1048784726@[172.16.160.8]>
Message-ID: <000901c2f4e3$9c7d3500$6401a8c0@NewHome>

>From Andreas Jung:
> see lib/python/Products/PythonScripts/README.txt

Useful info. Thanks for the recommendation. Sounds like I shouldn't make
httplib accessible though.

>From Geir B=E6kholt:
> result =3D context.verifyPayPal()

Thanks for the tip! This makes sense. I read about context and how I can
get to other objects through it, but wasn't yet smart enough to realize
it would help in this situation <g>.

>From Dylan Reinhardt:
> Ignore the issues with your script.  Your *real* problem is that
PayPal won't accept HTTP for=20
> this connection, you must use HTTPS.

Yes, I saw M2Crypto referenced in your article as well as some other
places. I figured I would tackle this obstacle first and then worry
about HTTPS after that. While looking at M2Crypto, I decided to install
OpenSSL and M2Crypto on my PC (fortunately I am running Windows). So I'm
ready to try it out.

--
Sean Winstead=20




From shiva_t@infosys.com  Fri Mar 28 06:36:42 2003
From: shiva_t@infosys.com (Shiva Kumar T)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:06:42 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Information required on integrating zope with Microsoft Indexing Service
Message-ID: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540CE32AF3@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>

SGksDQpJIHdhbnQgdG8gaW50ZWdyYXRlIHpvcGUgd2l0aCBNaWNyb3NvZnQgSW5kZXhpbmcgU2V2
ZXIgZm9yIHNlYXJjaCBwdXJwb3NlLg0KSWYgYW55Ym9keSBoYXMgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gb24gdGhp
cyBwbGVhc2UgcmVwbHkgYmFjay4NCiANClRoYW5rIFlvdQ0KUmVnYXJkcw0KU2hpdmENCg==


From mattyoungrev2@yahoo.com  Fri Mar 28 06:43:24 2003
From: mattyoungrev2@yahoo.com (Matt Young)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:43:24 -0600
Subject: [Zope] More -- Re: Zope digest, Vol 1 #2676 - 47 msgs
In-Reply-To: <20030327070658.32458.67661.Mailman@mail.python.org>
References: <20030327070658.32458.67661.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <oprmqfmmkv8q1z1s@smtp.mail.yahoo.com>

"2.1.3 is the latest version of Python compatible with Zope" according to 
my Zope host (Zettai).

--Matt


From goeldi@goeldi.com  Fri Mar 28 09:13:52 2003
From: goeldi@goeldi.com (Stephan Goeldi)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:13:52 +0100
Subject: [Zope] security hole
Message-ID: <3DB00EA600051DE5@flu-stateless-01.tiscalinet.ch>

accessing a zope site with nautilus can show you the whole structure: fol=
ders,
methods and documents. On some sites you see the source of index_html. I
didn't figure out, what makes the difference.








From maxm@mxm.dk  Fri Mar 28 09:45:20 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:45:20 +0100
Subject: [Zope] security hole
In-Reply-To: <3DB00EA600051DE5@flu-stateless-01.tiscalinet.ch>
References: <3DB00EA600051DE5@flu-stateless-01.tiscalinet.ch>
Message-ID: <3E8419B0.6040504@mxm.dk>

Stephan Goeldi wrote:

>accessing a zope site with nautilus can show you the whole structure: folders,
>methods and documents. On some sites you see the source of index_html. I
>didn't figure out, what makes the difference.
>

Are you shure that you are not logged in to the site? If you are, it is 
not a security hole, but perhaps a bug in Nautilus with regards to 
WebDav. Which sounds more likely.

regards Max M



From ziofunk@tiscali.it  Fri Mar 28 10:52:49 2003
From: ziofunk@tiscali.it (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:52:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZClass embedding HTML and PDF
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328115217.00ae5a28@10.10.10.101>

Hi everybody.

I'm trying to build a ZClass that can hold a document in HTML (uploaded 
during the creation of the instance) and its PDF version (also uploaded) 
reachable using a link in the HTML.
Is this possible? Could you please give me some direction to do this?

I thank you a lot in advance. 



From ziofunk@tiscali.it  Fri Mar 28 11:16:26 2003
From: ziofunk@tiscali.it (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:16:26 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZClass embedding HTML and PDF
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328120043.02d3eec0@pop.nvg.ntnu.no>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328115217.00ae5a28@10.10.10.101>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328121227.00adae70@pop.tiscalinet.it>

>Take a look at the product MSWordDocumentFS. It has these features, except 
>it works from Msword-documents to html and pdf.
>It uses wvware to generate html and pdf, but if you do not have this, you 
>can still take a looka at the source and see how it is done, and then, 
>pherhaps implement it as a zclass.

...unfortunately I am doing the developement under Windows and this product 
is said to work only for Linux. Moreover, the HTML I have to apload in this 
ZClass has to be embedded in some kind of template to include header, 
footer and other html.

Thank you
Fabio



From fabio@hi-flier.com  Fri Mar 28 11:41:24 2003
From: fabio@hi-flier.com (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:41:24 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZClass subclassing DTML Document
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328122644.00af5978@10.10.10.101>

Hi.

If I create a Zclass subclassing DTML Document or DTML Method, is there a 
way I can have every instance of the Zclass incorporating a fixed 
predefined DTML docuemnt structure and upload some html contents during the 
creation.
Thank you
Best Regards



From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Fri Mar 28 12:53:11 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:53:11 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808F68@PROSERV>

Thanks JC, this is one email I'm going to tuck away as a reference. I knew
there had to be a way but my confussion and not finding the right reference
material/web source leads me in the wrong directions sometimes. Thanks
again.

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org]On Behalf Of J
Cameron Cooper
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:57 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZCGI Documentation


>
>
>I have a cgi script to uploading files to a file system I am trying to
test.
>I have posted questions about localfs and extfile that seem to fit my needs
>but I have not found a solution that a user can run the product from ex.
>index_html. I can only run the product through the management interface. I
>am trying to avoid setting up user accounts.
>  
>
You don't need CGI for this (and in fact, I'm not even sure how it would 
fit in: in such a configuration Zope doesn't run CGI, is is run via CGI.)

One of the rules of Zope is that whatever you can do from the management 
interface you can do anywhere. There really is no magic involved. Now, 
products aren't going to give you clever interfaces for inclusion with 
your code, because they can't even begin to know what you have in mind. 
What you can do, however, is to treat their management interfaces as a 
template to make your own interface. Say you want to allow someone to 
create a File from wherever. You like index_html, so we'll use that. 
(I'm using File rather than ExtFile for this example so that those 
playing along at home aren't left out; the principle is exactly the same.)

Here's a crash course on how to do that:

How does File add a File instance to some folder? Watch the URLs in the 
ZMI when you do that from the pull-down. It calls

manage_addProduct/OFSP/fileAdd

on some Folder(ish) object. This is defined in the __init__.py in 
lib/python/Products/OFSP

As you can see, it has the various fields in an HTML form that are 
necessary to create a File. What is the action of the form? Take a look 
at the source. It is

manage_addFile

relative to the current Folderish object. So, calling that on some 
folder with a request containing the parameters like the form constructs 
will create a File and add it to that folder.

So now you want to create your own interface for adding Files. Copy the 
form code out of the File's add page, and stick it in your own page 
(index_html), changing the formatting if you like. Setting the action to 
manage_addFile is the most important part. You would have to do the same 
thing for the edit pages, if you want to be able to edit.

There are some problems here, like 'manage_addFile' redirects to 
'manage_main'. If you don't like that, you can either create a script 
that calls 'manage_addFile(REQUEST)' and returns/redirects where you 
want, or you can write your own file-add function that calls the class 
constructor to make the instance and adds it to the folder with 
'_setObject' in a similar manner to the original code. Alternatively, 
you can create your own product that subclasses File and change the 
behaviour of whatever functions you like.

          --jcc


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From lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com  Fri Mar 28 12:56:47 2003
From: lmcdonnell@protonenergy.com (McDonnell, Larry)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:56:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Anyone else have this problem?
Message-ID: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808F6E@PROSERV>

>Just tried to install Zope-2.6.1 from src on my vanilla redhat7.1 system.
Its 
>running python 2.1.1 (I know...I should upgrade)

Hi,

I have been running zope on win2000 machines and I was looking to go to
linux/redhat. I thought zope installed it's own python during installation,
is this diferent in linux?

Thanks.


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Fri Mar 28 05:25:14 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 27 Mar 2003 21:25:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] security hole
In-Reply-To: <3DB00EA600051DE5@flu-stateless-01.tiscalinet.ch>
References: <3DB00EA600051DE5@flu-stateless-01.tiscalinet.ch>
Message-ID: <1048829112.5893.82.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 01:13, Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> accessing a zope site with nautilus can show you the whole structure: folders,
> methods and documents. On some sites you see the source of index_html. I
> didn't figure out, what makes the difference.
> 

Zope has a very solid security apparatus, but the default configuration
is *not* the most secure one available.

You've discovered one way in which this is the case: By default, Zope
servers will disclose detailed information about server setup to WebDAV.

If you are concerned that this isn't a great way to manage your server,
(IMO, it's not) you should configure accordingly.  Open up the
permissions for the root object and de-select the box that grants WebDAV
Access privileges to Anonymous.  If you've set everything else to
inherit this permission, that setting will cascade down your whole
server.  If not, rinse and repeat.

Managing security is a process of balancing convenience against
paranoia.  By default Zope errs a bit on the side of convenience... a
common balance point.  The Zope admin's job is to understand these
choices and make them differently as requirements dictate.

HTH,

Dylan



From jean@upfrontsystems.co.za  Fri Mar 28 14:04:39 2003
From: jean@upfrontsystems.co.za (Jean Jordaan)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:04:39 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZopeTree: another patch
Message-ID: <3E845677.6000300@upfrontsystems.co.za>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------040308090509020909010506
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Philipp and all

Herewith, another patch against ZopeTree-1-1. It corrects
a bug in the previous patch, and changes the functionality
to allow pre-expanded trees.

What the patch does:

   - TreeObjectWrapper.__init__: signature changed to
     (self, obj, path=None), making path optional and
     getting it from obj if not provided. (Breaks backward
     compatability.)

   - ZopeTree.__init__: expanded_nodes=[] added as keyword
     argument, so that the tree may be primed by passing in
     a list of expanded nodes. If request_variable is on
     request, the tree has been browsed, and request_variable
     overrides expanded_nodes.

     If ZopeTree is passed a TreeObjectWrapper instance,
     get path from it; otherwise get it using getPhysicalPath.

     Included path in the cookie which is set, to stop
     Mozilla from setting multiple cookies at different
     paths.

-- 
Jean Jordaan
http://www.upfrontsystems.co.za

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline;
 filename="ZopeTree-cookie-path.patch"

diff -u /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py
--- /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py	Thu Mar 13 10:34:38 2003
+++ ZopeTree/TreeObjectWrapper.py	Fri Mar 28 10:46:22 2003
@@ -29,8 +29,11 @@
 
     __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1
 
-    def __init__(self, path, obj):
-        self.path = path
+    def __init__(self, obj, path=None):
+        if path:
+            self.path = path 
+        else:
+            self.path = '/'.join(obj.getPhysicalPath());
         self.object = obj
         self.id = obj.getId()
         self.folderish = obj.isPrincipiaFolderish
@@ -44,7 +47,7 @@
         for id in objectIds:
             path = posix_path_join(self.path, id)
             obj = getattr(self.object, id)
-            children.append(TreeObjectWrapper(path, obj))
+            children.append(TreeObjectWrapper(obj, path))
         return children
 
     def getFolderishChildren(self):
diff -u /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py
--- /usr/local/zope/Products/ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py	Thu Mar 27 09:27:54 2003
+++ ZopeTree/ZopeTree.py	Fri Mar 28 15:47:24 2003
@@ -100,15 +100,17 @@
 
     __allow_access_to_unprotected_subobjects__ = 1
 
-    def __init__(self, root_object, id_attr='getId', children_attr='objectValues',
-                 request=None, request_variable='tree-expansion'):
+    def __init__(self, root_object, id_attr='getId',
+                 children_attr='objectValues', request=None,
+                 request_variable='tree-expansion', expanded_nodes=[]):
         tree_expansion = request.get(request_variable, "")
+        path = getattr(root_object, 'path', None) 
+        if not path:
+            path = '/'.join(root_object.getPhysicalPath())
         if tree_expansion:
-            request.RESPONSE.setCookie(request_variable, tree_expansion) # set a cookie right away
+            request.RESPONSE.setCookie(request_variable, tree_expansion, path=path) # set a cookie right away
             expanded_nodes = self.decodeTreeExpansion(tree_expansion)
-        else:
-            expanded_nodes = []
-        
+
         Node.__init__(self, root_object, 0, id_attr, children_attr, expanded_nodes)
         self.expand()
 

--------------040308090509020909010506--



From casey@zope.com  Fri Mar 28 14:40:45 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:40:45 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZClass subclassing DTML Document
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328122644.00af5978@10.10.10.101>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328122644.00af5978@10.10.10.101>
Message-ID: <200303280940.45434.casey@zope.com>

Yes, you could change the constructor python script so that it contained =
some=20
"boilerplate" code that was preloaded. This could be done by putting a DT=
ML=20
method in the ZClass that contained the default code. Then the constructo=
r=20
could snarf it using its document_src method and set itself using=20
manage_edit.

Uploading would be fine too, just add a file form field to the constructo=
r=20
form and set the contents of the ZClass instance to the file using=20
manage_edit.

hth,

-Casey

On Friday 28 March 2003 06:41 am, Fabio Rolando wrote:
> Hi.
>=20
> If I create a Zclass subclassing DTML Document or DTML Method, is there=
 a=20
> way I can have every instance of the Zclass incorporating a fixed=20
> predefined DTML docuemnt structure and upload some html contents during=
 the=20
> creation.
> Thank you
> Best Regards


From list@zettai.net  Fri Mar 28 15:39:19 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:39:19 -0500
Subject: [Zope] security hole
In-Reply-To: <3E8419B0.6040504@mxm.dk>
Message-ID: <BAA9D6D7.24858%list@zettai.net>

[Max M wrote (maxm@mxm.dk) on 3/28/03 4:45 AM]

>> accessing a zope site with nautilus can show you the whole structure:
>> folders,
>> methods and documents. On some sites you see the source of index_html. I
>> didn't figure out, what makes the difference.
>> 
> 
> Are you shure that you are not logged in to the site? If you are, it is
> not a security hole, but perhaps a bug in Nautilus with regards to
> WebDav. Which sounds more likely.

if you have the default setup then this is not a bug in the WebDAV client.
You need to remove anonymous WebDAV access in the root Security tab.

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From jpenny@universal-fasteners.com  Fri Mar 28 15:43:58 2003
From: jpenny@universal-fasteners.com (Jim Penny)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:43:58 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Anyone else have this problem?
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808F6E@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD9808F6E@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <20030328154358.GD28504@universal-fasteners.com>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:56:47AM -0500, McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> >Just tried to install Zope-2.6.1 from src on my vanilla redhat7.1 system.
> Its 
> >running python 2.1.1 (I know...I should upgrade)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been running zope on win2000 machines and I was looking to go to
> linux/redhat. I thought zope installed it's own python during installation,
> is this diferent in linux?
> 
> Thanks.

It depends on how you install it.  The zope.org binary package installs
its own python.  The problem with that is that it is always in a
non-standard place, and installing extensions gets to be hairy - you
often have to install in multiple locations.  Also, it can be very
interesting to debug - unless you do things right, starting python from
the command line gets you something different than what zope is actually
using.  So, you see mails form people to the effect of "I just tested
this, and it worked fine from python, why is zope broken?"

The zope.org source package does not include python.  So, if you install 
from source, you will always be using your system's python, which probably
came from your distribution.

The third alternative is to use the distribution supplied zope.  There
may be deficiencies with these packages.  The Debian package is in
pretty good shape.  I can't vouch for others.

Frankly, I wish that zope.org would quit distributing linux binaries - I
think that the confusion it creates is greater than the "instant
gratification" value.  But, I do not get to make that call.

Jim Penny
> 
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From sameer_@email.com  Fri Mar 28 16:54:04 2003
From: sameer_@email.com (sameer chaudhry)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:54:04 -0500
Subject: [Zope] product to view all files in a folder?
Message-ID: <20030328165405.1066.qmail@email.com>

Is there a zope product to view all files in a folder outside of the zope root directory, but on the filesystem?

Thanks in advance.


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From scott.meilicke@intp.com  Fri Mar 28 17:01:54 2003
From: scott.meilicke@intp.com (Meilicke, Scott)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:01:54 -0800
Subject: [Zope] product to view all files in a folder?
Message-ID: <05A1EDFF79040846976782B13F97ED3516ADAF@IWA-MERCURY>

LocalFS

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Is there a zope product to view all files in a folder outside of the zope
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From kristina@virginia.edu  Fri Mar 28 17:14:52 2003
From: kristina@virginia.edu (Kristina Quimson Buenafe)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:14:52 -0500
Subject: [Zope] AWStats and ZCGI installation
In-Reply-To: <3E82D4AC.1080601@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c2f54d$8c35acd0$6601a8c0@KQB>

> The high-level problem I'm trying to solve is to get web server log
> statistics out of Z2.log so I can analyze them for my thesis. =20

What lead you to choose AWStats over the other log analysis software =
that is

available?

I was choosing between it and Webalizer and when I tried to download
Webalizer their server was down so I just went with AWStats since it =
seemed
they were both good.

> Well, the problem is there pretty loud and clear ;-)
> You need to find out why AWStats can't find its config file...
>=20
> Ok - awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf is in the cgi-bin directory =
with
> awstats.pl

I'm afraid I know nothing about AWStats so can't tell you if that's =
correct
or=20
not. What ways are there to get help for AWStats?

> I think I followed the setup instructions correctly (putting the =
cgi-bin
and
> icon directories in my Zope root directory and changing the settings =
in
> awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf, will check them again.

Are you using Apache in front of Zope? If not, maybe you should consider =
it
and=20
then run AWStats as a CGI under Apache rather than trying torun it as a =
CGI=20
under Zope...

The error in my setup is that I renamed awstats.model.conf to
awstats.cidac1.sys.virginia.edu.conf.conf by mistake, and that's why the
file couldn't be read.

Thanks for your help!

Kristina




From hpinson@indepthl.com  Fri Mar 28 17:18:47 2003
From: hpinson@indepthl.com (hpinson@indepthl.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:18:47 -0700
Subject: [Zope] Extensionless Zope Objects in Dreamweaver MX
Message-ID: <3E842187.7900.D422839@localhost>

Has anyone discovered a workaround / hack for editing extensionless 
Zope objects (ZPT, DTML-Methods, DTML-Documents) directly in 
Dreamweaver MX?

Harlow Pinson
Indepth Learning
Email: hpinson@indepthl.com 
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FAX: 208-475-7678



From alet@librelogiciel.com  Fri Mar 28 17:21:43 2003
From: alet@librelogiciel.com (Jerome Alet)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:21:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] product to view all files in a folder?
In-Reply-To: <20030328165405.1066.qmail@email.com>
References: <20030328165405.1066.qmail@email.com>
Message-ID: <20030328172143.GA10533@mail.librelogiciel.com>

On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:54:04AM -0500, sameer chaudhry wrote:
> Is there a zope product to view all files in a folder outside of the zope root directory, but on the filesystem?

You could write one with a few lines in an External method.

Alternatively, you could install ZShell, available from
http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/ and run its exec
command like this :

        exec ls -al /home/your_directory/
        
The command's result is what you want.        

bye,

Jerome Alet


From wmmail@twmi.rr.com  Fri Mar 28 17:52:52 2003
From: wmmail@twmi.rr.com (Jon Whitener)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:52:52 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
In-Reply-To: <20030327224236.26764.qmail@web40007.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328124705.00b15ed0@pop-server.twmi.rr.com>

I have a similar problem.  I installed Zope on Linux as a regular user, but then changed it to run as root so that ZServer can use port 80.  I changed the ownership of the var directory to root, and use the command line parameter -u regularUser.

Now I can run Zserver on port 80, but I cannot pack the ZODB via the Web.  I get:


   Error Type: IOError
   Error Value: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/home/user/Zope-2.6.0/var/Data.fs.pack'

I'm no Linux expert.  What do we need to do to start Zope as root, switch running to a regular user (using -u on z2.py), and still be able to pack the database?

Jon Whitener
Detroit, Michigan USA


At 05:42 PM 3/27/2003, Wayne Connolly wrote:
>Hi, 
>
>I tried to pack my Data.fs file from control panel. It
>is on freebsd, zope2.6 and Data.fs is 49.5MB.
>
>A permission denied occured on the file because i had
>incorrect permission set. ie. zope process was owned
>by a different user than was Data.fs.
>
>The following error occurs now when i access zope.
>
>Site Error
>An error was encountered while publishing this
>resource. 
>
>exceptions.ValueError
>
>Sorry, a site error occurred.
>
>Traceback (innermost last): 
>
>Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in publish_module
>
>Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish 
>Module Zope, line 146, in zpublisher_exception_hook 
>Module ZODB.ZApplication, line 61, in
>__bobo_traverse__ 
>Module UserDict, line 14, in __getitem__ 
>Module ZODB.Connection, line 507, in setstate 
>Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 619, in load 
>Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 594, in _load 
>ValueError: I/O operation on closed file 
>
>Should i user fsrecovery tool? I still havents
>restarted zope? and have backed up all var files...
>
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From maxm@mxm.dk  Fri Mar 28 17:57:57 2003
From: maxm@mxm.dk (Max M)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:57:57 +0100
Subject: [Zope] security hole
In-Reply-To: <BAA9D6D7.24858%list@zettai.net>
References: <BAA9D6D7.24858%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <3E848D25.3040907@mxm.dk>

george donnelly wrote:

>[Max M wrote (maxm@mxm.dk) on 3/28/03 4:45 AM]
>  
>
>>Are you shure that you are not logged in to the site? If you are, it is
>>not a security hole, but perhaps a bug in Nautilus with regards to
>>WebDav. Which sounds more likely.
>>    
>>
>
>if you have the default setup then this is not a bug in the WebDAV client.
>You need to remove anonymous WebDAV access in the root Security tab.
>  
>

Oh ... I asumed that Nautilus was a web browser. That's why I thought 
there was a bug in it.

my bad. Max M



From list@zettai.net  Fri Mar 28 18:29:22 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328124705.00b15ed0@pop-server.twmi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BAA9FEB2.248BE%list@zettai.net>

[Jon Whitener wrote (wmmail@twmi.rr.com) on 3/28/03 12:52 PM]

> I have a similar problem.  I installed Zope on Linux as a regular user, but
> then changed it to run as root so that ZServer can use port 80.  I changed the
> ownership of the var directory to root, and use the command line parameter -u
> regularUser.
> 
> Now I can run Zserver on port 80, but I cannot pack the ZODB via the Web.  I
> get:
> 
> 
> Error Type: IOError
> Error Value: [Errno 13] Permission denied:
> '/home/user/Zope-2.6.0/var/Data.fs.pack'
> 
> I'm no Linux expert.  What do we need to do to start Zope as root, switch
> running to a regular user (using -u on z2.py), and still be able to pack the
> database?

It sounds like the var directory is not owned by the user you are running
Zope as.

I would suggest you do this: run apache on port 80 and Zope on port 8080 as
a user other than root or nobody, a dedicated user, eg zope.

then rewrite requests to apache to go to Zope. there are many howtos on this
on zope.org.

This gives you many benefits, among them robustness and simplified admin of
Zope.

hth

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From rawbobb@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 28 20:33:30 2003
From: rawbobb@hotmail.com (Bobb)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 15:33:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] OT: possibly... Comparing 2 blobs
Message-ID: <BAY1-DAV36m5TUmOuFF0003d960@hotmail.com>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone know of a "reliable" way to compare blobs in python / =
zope... I'm looking a either comparing the first # of characters, or crc =
check or something. =20

TIA

bobb
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does anyone know of a "reliable" way to =
compare=20
blobs in python / zope... I'm looking a either comparing the first # of=20
characters, or crc check or something.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>TIA</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>bobb</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 20:58:20 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:58:20 +0000
Subject: [Zope] ExternalEditor/OpenOffice
References: <189723117.1048447129@[192.168.1.2]> <3E7F35C9.6010901@lycos.es>
Message-ID: <3E84B76C.5050709@nipltd.com>

Jordi wrote:
> 
> I am having the same problem. OpenOffice 1.0.2 + W2K + Zope-2.6+External 
> Editor 0.5
> 
> Does Webdav have to be enabled  or not filtered by the firewall?

If you're using the WebDAV source port on another port, then that port will have 
to be opened through your firewall...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 21:00:54 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:00:54 +0000
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
References: <000901c2f2ee$83a93d40$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>
Message-ID: <3E84B806.6090403@nipltd.com>

Gilles wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites 

I do :-)

> Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have used?

Not free, but cheap and very good; I use WebDrive on Windows...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 21:04:18 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:04:18 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Expand Macros
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD98088AD@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <3E84B8D2.3040905@nipltd.com>

McDonnell, Larry wrote:
> Macro expansion failed
> exceptions.AttributeError: macros
> 
> What do I need to turn on?

I don't think there is anything...

>  It works in the example area. 

In that case, look at the differences between the example area and the area 
where you're having problems...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 21:05:21 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:05:21 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D60E@desi2>
Message-ID: <3E84B911.30709@nipltd.com>

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Though your copy may end up needing repair after the fact; backup in this
> sense is not transactional.  DirectoryStorage has the best answer for this
> at the moment (better than FileStorage),

What lead you to this belief?

cheers,

Chris



From casey@zope.com  Fri Mar 28 21:35:17 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:35:17 -0500
Subject: [Zope] OT: possibly... Comparing 2 blobs
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-DAV36m5TUmOuFF0003d960@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY1-DAV36m5TUmOuFF0003d960@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <200303281635.17211.casey@zope.com>

This Python script would be simple and fairly efficient in the common cas=
e=20
(assuming Zope Fileish objects):

##parameters=3Dfile1, file2
return file1.get_size() =3D=3D file2.get__size() or str(file1) =3D=3D str=
(file2)

It would only be inefficient for large files that were exactly the same s=
ize,=20
which would be uncommon methinks. To make that case efficient, you would =
need=20
to precompute a checksum at upload time and store it as a property for=20
comparison.

On Friday 28 March 2003 03:33 pm, Bobb wrote:
> Does anyone know of a "reliable" way to compare blobs in python / zope.=
=2E.=20
I'm looking a either comparing the first # of characters, or crc check or=
=20
something. =20
>=20
> TIA
>=20
> bobb



From ielbert@genuone.com  Fri Mar 28 21:39:11 2003
From: ielbert@genuone.com (Igor Elbert)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Re: Zope in Manufacturing
Message-ID: <ADEHKHGGLLGHANBDCJHIOEMKCAAA.ielbert@genuone.com>

[lozinski@jobmart.com]:

>Is anyone interested in using zope in manufacturing?

We are interested. For one of our clients we are working on a Zope-based
solution for high speed/high volume manufacturing environment. It would be
interesting to hear about similar projects, approaches, success stories,
etc.

Regards,
Igor



From rawbobb@hotmail.com  Fri Mar 28 21:43:24 2003
From: rawbobb@hotmail.com (Bobb)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:43:24 -0500
Subject: [Zope] OT: possibly... Comparing 2 blobs
References: <BAY1-DAV36m5TUmOuFF0003d960@hotmail.com> <200303281635.17211.casey@zope.com>
Message-ID: <BAY1-DAV223OXPJmRyA00037f6a@hotmail.com>

Thanx Casey.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Casey Duncan" <casey@zope.com>
To: "Bobb" <rawbobb@hotmail.com>; <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] OT: possibly... Comparing 2 blobs


This Python script would be simple and fairly efficient in the common case
(assuming Zope Fileish objects):

##parameters=file1, file2
return file1.get_size() == file2.get__size() or str(file1) == str(file2)

It would only be inefficient for large files that were exactly the same
size,
which would be uncommon methinks. To make that case efficient, you would
need
to precompute a checksum at upload time and store it as a property for
comparison.

On Friday 28 March 2003 03:33 pm, Bobb wrote:
> Does anyone know of a "reliable" way to compare blobs in python / zope...
I'm looking a either comparing the first # of characters, or crc check or
something.
>
> TIA
>
> bobb



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 21:53:50 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:53:50 +0000
Subject: [Zope] do I need expat?
References: <20030326164438.E1367@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <3E84C46E.3050808@nipltd.com>

David Bear wrote:
> I have been lurking through plone and had zope die hard with an error
> -- something like it could find or import expat -- I'm guessing this
> is pyexpat xml module..

You need to install PyXML:
http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/topics/download.html

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 21:56:19 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:56:19 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Publishing of plain HTML files
References: <20030326190527.76625.qmail@web20509.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E84C503.4000201@nipltd.com>

Robert Jean wrote:
> In this model, Zope is used for the
> creation, management and publishing of the content,
> while the delivery is performed by IIS or Apache.

wget's recursive options might be what you're looking for...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 22:01:37 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:01:37 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
References: <20030327224236.26764.qmail@web40007.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3E84C641.3020105@nipltd.com>

Wayne Connolly wrote:
> Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 594, in _load 
> ValueError: I/O operation on closed file 

Restart Zope.

Make sure it really dies when you shut it down ;-)
You may need to use kill -9 to kill off any errant python processes after you 
use your 'stop' script...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 22:02:34 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:02:34 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328124705.00b15ed0@pop-server.twmi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <3E84C67A.6070607@nipltd.com>

Jon Whitener wrote:
> I'm no Linux expert.  What do we need to do to start Zope as root, switch running to a regular user (using -u on z2.py), and still be able to pack the database?

IIRC, running Zope as root is a no-no...

As to why, you'd have to read the docs or search the mailing lists...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Fri Mar 28 22:05:50 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:05:50 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Extensionless Zope Objects in Dreamweaver MX
References: <3E842187.7900.D422839@localhost>
Message-ID: <3E84C73E.7050401@nipltd.com>

hpinson@indepthl.com wrote:
> Has anyone discovered a workaround / hack for editing extensionless 
> Zope objects (ZPT, DTML-Methods, DTML-Documents) directly in 
> Dreamweaver MX?

Stop using Dreamweaver...

Seriously though... no :-(

Chris



From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Fri Mar 28 22:18:14 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:18:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D62C@desi2>

Copying a FileStorage while transactions are being appended to the end of it
potentially means that the copy completes with before the transaction commit
is totally flushed to the file, so there is always the possibility that your
backup is going to need to have half-written transactions manually truncated
to be used on either a replica or a new Zope/ZSS instance; this isn't that
big of a deal, but it is possible to avoid this manual work with dirstorage.

The only things that make DirectoryStorage better in this regard is that the
backup tools integrate with the storage instead of acting uninformed below
it, trigger snapshot mode, and get a list of files to backup from the
storage software itself (this is quicker and a better guarantee than, say,
using unix 'find' and mtime on a dirstorage directory to do the same thing).
Compared to FileStorage, you do not have the problem of backing up files
being written to because:

	(a) Snapshot mode prevents changes to an object in HOME/A from being
written to, buffering any writes to those files in HOME/journal and HOME/B
for later flush once snapshot mode is exited (post-backup).

	(b) Additional transactions and objects are not added to the
directory being backed up.

DirectoryStorage also is preferable in these backup scenarios:

1. Disaster-preparedness.  You want to backup a big storage over a WAN
connection - and this means incremental. You need incremental backup and
IIRC something like rsync may not work very well on a changing FileStorage
Data.fs. http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2002-November/003807.html
We run servers at a co-location facility, and need remote backup to our
facility over a 1.5Mb/s connection, and a reasonable way to do this is use
the backup.py tool to create full and incremental files locally that are
pulled down to remote locations via FTP on a cron job, or even better, just
run the replica.py tool from our secondary location to incrementally pull
down the changes (equiv. to backup.py incremental backup, but for replica
purposes) over SSH connection to our other location and to tape for standard
offsite backup rotations.  With FileStorage, we would have to use rsync
because of bandwidth constraints, and our ability to respond quickly would
be impeded by the fact that we may have to manually repair the remote copy
of the filestorage via truncation of half-committed transactions.

2. ZSS High-availability clustering and replication.  We have an HA cluster
currently using Linux-HA heartbeat, and our crude way of copying the Data.fs
is via FTP for daily snapshots in the middle of the night between our
primary and secondary node.  This works okay (not as well as rsync would)
because this application only updates most content once-daily.  However, if
you have a heavier-write situation, FileStorage will not be amicable to a
hot-backup clustering arrangement, because cluster software will not be able
to start the ZEO storage server on the backup/secondary node in the possible
case of a corrupted (even slightly) filestorage copy (someone correct me if
I am wrong here).  The DirectoryStorage replica.py tool addresses this by
providing a secure network-enabled incremental replication mechanism that
ignores incoming writes (via snapshot) to guarantee consistency and
isolation (in a transactional sense) for the backup operation: the backup is
consistent with the state of the storage at the point in time the snapshot
mode was entered (when backup started), and incoming transactions do not
effect the operation of a backup because they are isolate in HOME/journal
and HOME/B while stuff is copied out of HOME/A.  Given this, I feel much
more comfortable that I can keep a 'hot' replica on a 'hot' backup node that
is ready to take over as ZSS in the case of a failure on the primary or
(mainly) the need for maintenance on the primary - and I can feel
comfortable that my backup/replica reflects a recent consistent record of
current heavy activity.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Withers [mailto:chrisw@nipltd.com]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:05 PM
To: sean.upton@uniontrib.com
Cc: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope backup


sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote:
> Though your copy may end up needing repair after the fact; backup in this
> sense is not transactional.  DirectoryStorage has the best answer for this
> at the moment (better than FileStorage),

What lead you to this belief?

cheers,

Chris


From brian@zope.com  Fri Mar 28 22:13:30 2003
From: brian@zope.com (Brian Lloyd)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:13:30 -0500
Subject: [Zope] FYI - Zope TurboIntranet training April 28 - May 1
Message-ID: <HHELKLGAHIEMEIAJEOCLOEEICBAA.brian@zope.com>

Hi all -

(I'm copying this to the zope list since some who have asked for 
more information have made the point that they don't watch the 
zope-announce list.)

We've received a lot of feedback from the community over time about
the desire for more advanced Zope training options. We are happy to
now be able to offer Zope TurboIntranet training, which combines a
professional product (with source code) with advanced training that
covers Zope, the CMF architecture and the intranet product itself.

For those that may be interested, a ZTI class is coming up April 28 -
May 1. More info is available at:

http://www.zope.com/ZTICommunityAnnounce


Please send questions or requests for more info to training@zope.com
rather than me directly. Flames can go to me directly :^)



Brian Lloyd        brian@zope.com
V.P. Engineering   540.361.1716              
Zope Corporation   http://www.zope.com 

 


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Fri Mar 28 22:35:10 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:35:10 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
In-Reply-To: <3E84C67A.6070607@nipltd.com>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328124705.00b15ed0@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> <3E84C67A.6070607@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <3E84CE1E.5000306@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>> I'm no Linux expert.  What do we need to do to start Zope as root, 
>> switch running to a regular user (using -u on z2.py), and still be 
>> able to pack the database?
>
> IIRC, running Zope as root is a no-no...
>
> As to why, you'd have to read the docs or search the mailing lists...

Zope will refuse to run as root, but must start as root to use port 80. 
In order to do this it drops to a normal user after startup.

The var directory needs to be owned and permissioned properly (with the 
sticky bit set.) See docs/SETUID.txt for instructions.

Make sure when you change owners or permissions on var that its contents 
get changed as well.

          --jcc



From mattficken@mail.com  Fri Mar 28 22:39:23 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:39:23 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Call Product Constructor
Message-ID: <20030328223923.86450.qmail@mail.com>

This is the __init__.py of my product (ZID):

from ZIDProduct import ZID

def initialize ( context ):
  context.registerClass(
    ZID,
    constructors = (
      ZID.manage_addZIDForm,
      ZID.manage_addZID,
      ZID.manage_add_folder
    )
  )

I want the constructor ZID.manage_add_folder to get called at the end of the initialize function. How do I do this?
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From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Fri Mar 28 22:48:17 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 28 Mar 2003 14:48:17 -0800
Subject: [Zope] fyi: apache + ssl + zope + zope management interface example
Message-ID: <86wuij5cr2.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Greetings,

Here is an example apache httpd.conf fragment which gets apache + ssl
+ zope to all play nicely together.  If someone has a nicer way of
doing this, chime in.

The bonus in these instructions is that I also got the management
interface to come up via ssl.  I really struggled getting the
RewriteRules to work right.

These instructions worked for me using apache 2.0.20 and zope 2.6.1.

Prerequisites
=============
apache + mod_ssl are installed and functioning correctly.
www.example.com and manage.example.com have the same ip address.
zope runs on www.example.com port 8080.
zope has a Virtual Host Monster object in the root folder.
zope has a folder named "example" in the root folder.

Warnings
========
- Understand SSL, and get your certificates and options right for your
  needs.
- Verify that no important plaintext is transmitted.
- Restrict remote access to port 8080 or else folks will be able to
  connect to the zope management interface remotely without using SSL.
- Your mileage may vary.

Usage and Indications
======================
- http://www.example.com  serves content from zope's "example" folder.
- https://www.example.com serves content from zope's "example" folder,
  via SSL.
- http://www.example.com/manage is forbidden.
- https://www.example.com/manage is forbidden.
- https://manage.example.com/ brings up the "Zope Quick Start" page.
- https://manage.example.com/manage brings up an authentication dialog
  box for the zope management interface.

httpd.conf - virtual hosts section
==========
NameVirtualHost *
NameVirtualHost *:443

# NON-SSL EXAMPLE.COM SERVING CONTENT FROM THE "EXAMPLE" FOLDER
# MANAGE INTERFACE FORBIDDEN
<VirtualHost *>
  ServerName www.example.com
  RewriteEngine on
  RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} manage
  RewriteRule manage - [F]
  RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.example.com:80/example/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [P,L]
</VirtualHost>

# SSL EXAMPLE.COM SERVING CONTENT FROM THE "EXAMPLE" FOLDER
# MANAGE INTERFACE FORBIDDEN
<VirtualHost *:443>
  ServerName www.example.com

  # SSL
  SSLEngine on
  SSLCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
  SSLCertificateFile /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.crt/server.crt
  SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.key/server.key
  SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0

  # REWRITE
  RewriteEngine on
  RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} manage
  RewriteRule manage - [F]
  RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/www.example.com:443/example/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [P,L]
</VirtualHost>

# MANAGEMENT INTERFACE VIA SSL
<VirtualHost *:443>
  ServerName manage.example.com

  # SSL
  SSLEngine on
  SSLCipherSuite ALL:!ADH:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:+LOW:+SSLv2:+EXP:+eNULL
  SSLCertificateFile /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.crt/server.crt
  SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.key/server.key
  SetEnvIf User-Agent ".*MSIE.*" nokeepalive ssl-unclean-shutdown downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0

  # REWRITE
  RewriteEngine on
  RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/manage.example.com:443/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [P,L]
</VirtualHost>

-- 
Ricardo Anguiano
http://www.codesourcery.com


From jason@nol.org  Fri Mar 28 22:47:55 2003
From: jason@nol.org (Jason Bush)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:47:55 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Call Product Constructor
References: <20030328223923.86450.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <3E84D11B.9060400@nol.org>

I believe you want to add the folder when you create the object.
in the ZIDProduct file, in your manage_addZID method

ob=ZID()
ob.manage_addFolder(id='id', 
title='title',createPublic=0,createUserF=0,REQUEST=None)
where id is the folder id/title is the folder title
if createPublic has a true value a index_html file is created within the 
folder
if createUserF has a true value an acl_user folder is created within the 
folder

Matt Ficken wrote:

>This is the __init__.py of my product (ZID):
>
>from ZIDProduct import ZID
>
>def initialize ( context ):
>  context.registerClass(
>    ZID,
>    constructors = (
>      ZID.manage_addZIDForm,
>      ZID.manage_addZID,
>      ZID.manage_add_folder
>    )
>  )
>
>I want the constructor ZID.manage_add_folder to get called at the end of the initialize function. How do I do this?
>  
>

-- 
"The measure of a man is what he does with power"                 --Plato
Jason Bush  |  (402) 471-6517  |   jason@nol.org   |   http://www.nol.org






From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Mar 29 00:52:18 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:52:18 -0800
Subject: [Zope] fyi: apache + ssl + zope + zope management interface example
In-Reply-To: <86wuij5cr2.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <86wuij5cr2.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <20030329005218.GV23616@audible.transient.net>

Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
> - Restrict remote access to port 8080 or else folks will be able to
>   connect to the zope management interface remotely without using SSL.

Or just bind zope to something in 127.0.0.0/8 which should obviates
the need for additional access restrictions (from the outside world).
(Assuming a non-routing host I suppose.)

> <VirtualHost *>
>   ServerName www.example.com
>   RewriteEngine on
>   RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} manage

The above RewriteCond is superfluous, the RewriteRule below is
sufficient.

>   RewriteRule manage - [F]
>   RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/http/www.example.com:80/example/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [P,L]
> </VirtualHost>


> <VirtualHost *:443>
>   ServerName www.example.com
...
>   RewriteEngine on
>   RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} manage

ibid

>   RewriteRule manage - [F]
>   RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://localhost:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/www.example.com:443/example/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [P,L]
> </VirtualHost>


These examples also fail to address the issues discussed in
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=zope&m=104426779414836
but then, they are just examples, and nobody would dream of using them
blindly without first reading the documentation right?  Right.

What you've done here will work ... mostly.  I've even advocated it in
the past, but its probably worth noting blocking 'manage' strings only
works from a pragmatic sense.  I believe there are management
interfaces that don't have that string in them (I swear I saw one the
other day though I don't remember in what now...) and as such if your
goal is 100% assurance that auth headers for management never pass in
the clear this config might not cut it.  I've been considering an
alternate approach, I'd entertain any commentary.

I was thinking of using client certs with mod_ssl's FakeBasicAuth
function in conjunction with a specialized UserFolder that only
authenticates requests which are received via a known secure route.
I've verified that when using FakeBasicAuth and mod_rewrite/proxy that
the proxied request is indeed sent with an appropriately crafted
WWW-Authenticate header.  The problem I've been mulling over is that
this means the passwords of your users are all identical in the user
folder. (read up on mod_ssl if don't understand why)  This means that
whatever variable that holds the flag indicating the request came from a
secure source must be protected from any form of duress.  (Otherwise I
can see a scenario where users could possibly script themselves new
credentials.)  To date thats about as far as I've gotten with this
idea, I'm not sure what the best way to protect a variable of that
much importance would be.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"...thats the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle 
 into a lion's mouth and flicking his lovespuds with a wet towel, pure 
 insanity..."						-Rimmer


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:33:17 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:33:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Anyone else have this problem?
In-Reply-To: <3E83AF2F.2030601@adroit.net>
References: <3E83AF2F.2030601@adroit.net>
Message-ID: <16004.63453.573753.275129@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Terry Kerr wrote at 2003-3-28 13:10 +1100:
 > Just tried to install Zope-2.6.1 from src on my vanilla redhat7.1 system.  Its 
 > running python 2.1.1 (I know...I should upgrade)

You *MUST* not use python 2.1.1 with Zope.
You *MUST* use python 2.1.3 (from the 2.1 series).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:09:53 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:09:53 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Z SQL Method results and ZClasses
In-Reply-To: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
References: <004a01c2f386$26ad3d10$090da8c0@villamedia.net>
Message-ID: <16004.62049.61927.710164@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Ralph vd Houdt wrote at 2003-3-26 11:55 +0100:
 > I'm experimenting with ZSQL Methods and want to assign a ZClass to te result
 > object. I've read that 'in the future' it wil be possible to do that. But..
 > 
 > Is it possible todo this already or has anyone a solution to do this another
 > way?

This is possible now.

Your ZClass (used in this way) must not be persistent.
This means you must uncheck the "include standard ZObject base class"
(or something like that) when you construct your ZClass.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:01:48 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:01:48 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Searching a Gadfly database
In-Reply-To: <E214AA9F-5F4D-11D7-AA45-0003936F69BA@sagacity.com.au>
References: <E214AA9F-5F4D-11D7-AA45-0003936F69BA@sagacity.com.au>
Message-ID: <16004.61564.46427.85692@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Matthew Lindfield Seager wrote at 2003-3-26 16:43 +1100:
 > ...
 > After going around in numerous circles and butting my head up against a 
 > wall almost constantly I've finally worked out that:
 > a) The text to search on is in a Gadfly database AND
 > b) Gadfly databases don't support the SQL "LIKE" operator

Use an external database (Postgres or MySQL) that supports "LIKE".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:32:34 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:32:34 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
In-Reply-To: <20030327224236.26764.qmail@web40007.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030327224236.26764.qmail@web40007.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <16004.63410.765536.333461@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Wayne Connolly wrote at 2003-3-27 14:42 -0800:
 > ....
 > A permission denied occured on the file because i had
 > incorrect permission set. ie. zope process was owned
 > by a different user than was Data.fs.
 > 
 > The following error occurs now when i access zope.
 > ....
 > exceptions.ValueError
 > ...
 > Module ZODB.FileStorage, line 594, in _load 
 > ValueError: I/O operation on closed file 

Fix your permission settings.
Restart Zope.

I hope this will remove the problem.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:10:50 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:10:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Problem while adding LDAP adapter
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12FE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540B3A12FE@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <16004.62106.795351.683566@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj wrote at 2003-3-26 17:02 +0530:
 > I added a LDAP adapter in my zope. I am getting the following error when
 > I try to view the groups(Show Groups). Can anyone help me? I am running
 > zope 2.5.1. Thank you.
 >  
 > Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
 > 
 > Error Type: OPERATIONS_ERROR
 > Error Value: {'desc': 'Operations error', 'info': '000020D6: SvcErr:
 > DSID-03100690, problem 5012 (DIR_ERROR), data 0\n'}

As you may see, this is an error message created by your
LDAP server.

Consult the respective documentation to find out what it means....


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:15:05 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:15:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] do I need expat?
In-Reply-To: <20030326164438.E1367@asu.edu>
References: <20030326164438.E1367@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <16004.62361.21047.336028@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

David Bear wrote at 2003-3-26 16:44 -0700:
 > I have been lurking through plone and had zope die hard with an error
 > -- something like it could find or import expat -- I'm guessing this
 > is pyexpat xml module..
 > 
 > Do I need get it, or does this error mean something else.

Activate Zope logging (--> doc/LOGGING.txt).

Report the precise message in your log file (related to this problem,
if any) and Error Type/Value and Traceback.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:00:49 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:00:49 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Expand Macros
In-Reply-To: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD98088AD@PROSERV>
References: <318685741A5BD31183A4006097BD8DD98088AD@PROSERV>
Message-ID: <16004.61505.561095.500869@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

McDonnell, Larry wrote at 2003-3-25 12:12 -0500:
 > ...
 > I have been looking at the "Examples" area and I found something in the
 > FileLibrary folder that allows the uploading of files. I got that part to
 > work in my document. What I cannot get working is the ability to display the
 > files in the "Files" folder. I get an error message:
 > 
 > Macro expansion failed
 > exceptions.AttributeError: macros

Looks like you try to access "macros" for an object which is not
a PageTemplate.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:04:33 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:04:33 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Problem running Zope behind IIS.
In-Reply-To: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540630E513@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
References: <9002F5518DF72C4B869259B65E81D8540630E513@kecmsg03.ad.infosys.com>
Message-ID: <16004.61729.152218.668487@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Paul Naveen Raj Jeyaraj wrote at 2003-3-26 14:30 +0530:
 > I am trying to run Zope behind IIS. Also I need IIS to take care of user
 > authentication. I found in one document that the superuser password has
 > to be removed for this purpose. But I am not able to find where it is
 > stored. Can anyone help me in this? Thank you.

I do not believe, you need to do something with Zope's superuser password
("superser" is now renamed to "Emergency User").
But you find it in the file "access".

A related file is "inituser" which contains the login information
for the first login to Zope. I do not think you need to do anything
with it.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:08:04 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:08:04 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Is this a bug?
In-Reply-To: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FBFE@home3>
References: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FBFE@home3>
Message-ID: <16004.61940.911196.66061@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Vizitiu, Ciprian wrote at 2003-3-26 11:03 +0100:
 > Zope 2.5.1. on Linux (also produced on 2.6.0); Macromedia HomeSite 5 on XP. 
 > 
 > Open and edit some dtml via FTP. After several open/save opperations in
 > HomeSite you can no longer access the management interface with IE! Tested
 > with IE 5.x and 6.x on W2K/XP and IE on Mac. The page time-outs after a
 > while with the standard IE error message. It looks like the site is down.
 > The only way out of the problem is Mozilla/Netscape/Opera: You open the
 > management interface wo any problem at all; you have to go and open in the
 > web interface ALL the documents that have been edited through the ftp
 > interface and SAVE them. That's it! Double click the link and then press
 > Save. It apparently fixes the problem but it looks very scary. Is this a bug
 > or is there something wrong in my config?

I sounds strange....

However, when you are able to access Zope with other browsers, it
does not seem to be a Zope problem (alone).


We use HomeSite (and IE 5.5) routinely and do not the these problems.
What we see, however, is a big need for file descriptors.
We had to set the file descriptor limit for Zope very high.
We also see lots of "sockets of unknown type" opened by
the Zope process and we do not yet understand where they are there.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:20:37 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:20:37 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: Re: Re: Newbie: running Zope for the first time - Linux
In-Reply-To: <b5ttvv$f79$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D622@desi2>
 <b5tlc5$jmq$1@main.gmane.org>
 <1048707934.7223.75.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <b5ttvv$f79$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <16004.62693.216453.442820@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Alberto Odor wrote at 2003-3-26 22:17 -0600:
 > If I go to ZMI and go to the Plone site and view the site, it looks great
 > However if I try to load the Plone site using http://localhost I get the
 > Apache front page instead of the Plone site

This means that Apache is serving port 80 and not Zope.

Read the documentation about "Apache and Zope" you can find
on zope.org.

Also, searching the mailing list archives will give you
thousands of related posts...
You see, this is an FAQ.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 28 23:36:02 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 00:36:02 +0100
Subject: ZopeProfiler danger (was: Re: [Zope] ZSyncer Error)
In-Reply-To: <3E8214D6.8010403@neurobs.com>
References: <3E78AA2C.8080005@neurobs.com>
 <3E8214D6.8010403@neurobs.com>
Message-ID: <16004.56418.616516.931118@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

AM wrote at 2003-3-26 13:00 -0800:
 > Used ZopeProfiler instead.

As author of ZopeProfiler, I would like to inform you that
ZopeProfiler does not play well with other products that
customize "ZServer.PubCore.ZServerPublisher.publish_module".

We know that this happens for WingIDE's Zope debugging support.
The installation of ZopeProfiler (not necessary to enable it,
installation is enough) completely confused the WingIDE
debugger and lets it try to debug *all* requests and
not only those that use the debugging port.
As a result, all Zope operations are by an order of magnitude
slower.


This has nothing to do with your ZSyncer problem.
I just wanted to note our recent experience that ZopeProfiler, too,
can have adverse effects on other products.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:18:54 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:18:54 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <10418.203.217.13.22.1048729184.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>
References: <10418.203.217.13.22.1048729184.squirrel@www.rangemail.net>
Message-ID: <16004.62590.563114.481555@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

jamesd@mena.org.au wrote at 2003-3-27 11:39 +1000:
 > I have a Zope server running with two instances of plone, "Plone1" and
 > "Plone2".
 > plone2 is a demo site with a user "Demo" having the role 'Manager' available
 > to the public. plone1 is a regular plone site.
 > 
 > If I log in to plone2 as the user Demo, then go to the following url:
 > http://my.server/plone2/plone1
 > The permissions are acquired from the demo site giving full Manager access
 > to my main plone site. This is obviously a serious problem.

Zope tries hard to prevent access to protected objects defined outside
of the folder governed by the "acl_users" that authenticated
the user.

You may have found a hole...

Please file a "security related" collector report to
<http://collector.zope.org/Zope>.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:33:43 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:33:43 +0100
Subject: [Zope] product to view all files in a folder?
In-Reply-To: <20030328165405.1066.qmail@email.com>
References: <20030328165405.1066.qmail@email.com>
Message-ID: <16004.63479.344853.865673@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

sameer chaudhry wrote at 2003-3-28 11:54 -0500:
 > Is there a zope product to view all files in a folder outside of the zope root directory, but on the filesystem?

"LocalFS" ?


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 00:04:17 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:04:17 +0100
Subject: [Zope] How to access ZODB from python code
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030326211925.026a8400@192.168.0.115>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030324190624.01e84ba0@192.168.0.115>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030326211925.026a8400@192.168.0.115>
Message-ID: <16004.58113.571521.5779@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Gabriel Genellina wrote at 2003-3-26 22:27 -0300:
 > ....
 > Yes, we do close the connection. This is the full fragment:
 > 
 >      app = Zope.app()
 >      obj = app.restrictedTraverse(path)
 >      get_transaction().commit()
 >      app._p_jar.close()
 >      del app
 >      return obj
 > 
 > The server freezes inside the restrictedTraverse call (never returns).

I suspect there is some hidden and rarely exposed locking bug in Zope
causing Zope to stop responding to requests due to a deadlock.
I dearly would like to locate and fix it. But, I am unable to
reproduce the situation reliably.

Maybe, your setup provides a way for reproduction.

Are you accustomed using a debugger (on C level?).
If so, we may be able to sort this out:

   You need to connect the debugger to your Python process.
   You need to select the thread responsible for your
   hanging operation.
   You look at the stack trace.

     This will tell you where your thread is waiting.
     This may be waiting for a lock or waiting for
     some external connection.
     In the second case, you are almost done.

   In the first case (waiting for a lock) we must
   find out, which lock and where. This means
   going up (to older) some stack frames looking
   for "code" objects. When a code object is
   dereferenced, it reveals the filename ("co_filename") it was defined
   in and the function name ("co_name") it is code for.
   Both are pointers to "PyStringObject"s and may need to be cast
   correspondingly. The string content is found starting
   at "ob_sval".

   Unfortunately, you cannot use the Python functions normally
   used to access and display Python objects as they will block.
   You must use elementary debugger commands.

As you see, the debugging may not be easy but we might
find a deeply hidden problem...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:13:05 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:13:05 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: [Zope-DB] Logout script
In-Reply-To: <20030326101645.523.1@wonderland.1048669968.fake>
References: <002c01c2f33b$0d044980$0101a8c0@amphora>
 <20030326101645.523.1@wonderland.1048669968.fake>
Message-ID: <16004.62241.234819.9152@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Charlie Clark wrote at 2003-3-26 10:16 +0100:
 > > I like some help on writing a "Logout" dtml method for a  "login-ed" 
 > > user. Can someone give me a tip?
 > 
 > mm, this is actually off-topic.

Redirected to "zope@zope.org"....

 > You should check the Zope-Help for the API 
 > but you can also just look at the source of the top frame in the ZMI where 
 > the logout button is.
 > 
 > Without having the docs it's something like <dtml-var 
 > expr="acl_user.logout()">

This will only work for "cookie based authentication".

A logout script for basic authentication (within the limits of
this authentication type) can be found in

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

It also tells you something about cookie and basic authentication.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sat Mar 29 01:22:56 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 02:22:56 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Initial login
In-Reply-To: <20030327140700.S83@warpix.org>
References: <20030327140700.S83@warpix.org>
Message-ID: <16004.62832.246981.367334@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

John Poltorak wrote at 2003-3-27 14:07 +0000:
 > I'm very new to Zope and in fact have yet to learn what all the fuss is 
 > about, but would like to find out...
 > 
 > What username & password do I use when I want to connect to:-
 > 
 > http://localhost:8080/manage
 > 
 > 
 > Does this use passwd or inituser?

"inituser".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Fri Mar 28 23:26:39 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 00:26:39 +0100
Subject: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope] Hardware for Zope + ZEO)
In-Reply-To: <016b01c2f3d5$ac36c790$0200a8c0@wankyu>
References: <000201c2c9b7$8360c2f0$9002c9d3@wankyu>
 <016b01c2f3d5$ac36c790$0200a8c0@wankyu>
Message-ID: <16004.55855.183927.22724@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Wankyu Choi wrote at 2003-3-27 05:24 +0900:
 > ....
 > I need two sort keys: one to sort the threads (parents) and the
 > other to sort their replies (childs). ZCatalog supports a single sort index,

I have code to extend ZCatalog's sorting capability to arbitrary many
sort keys.

Maybe, we want something like this in the Zope core?


Dieter


From anguiano@codesourcery.com  Sat Mar 29 02:18:26 2003
From: anguiano@codesourcery.com (Ricardo Anguiano)
Date: 28 Mar 2003 18:18:26 -0800
Subject: [Zope] fyi: apache + ssl + zope + zope management interface example
In-Reply-To: <20030329005218.GV23616@audible.transient.net>
References: <86wuij5cr2.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
 <20030329005218.GV23616@audible.transient.net>
Message-ID: <86he9m6hl9.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>

Jamie Heilman <jamie@audible.transient.net> writes:
> [...superfluous conditions...]

Thanks for the info.  I will have to test without the conditions.

> These examples also fail to address the issues discussed in
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=zope&m=104426779414836
> but then, they are just examples, and nobody would dream of using them
> blindly without first reading the documentation right?  Right.

I am unclear on the problem.  I am not using a cache.  If I was using
a cache, wouldn't the "tainted" URIs just fill my cache with garbage
and degrade performance?  If that isn't the only impact, it looks like
you provide a nice set of RewriteConds in your email which addresses
this problem.

> What you've done here will work ... mostly.  I've even advocated it
> in the past, but its probably worth noting blocking 'manage' strings
> only works from a pragmatic sense.  I believe there are management
> interfaces that don't have that string in them (I swear I saw one
> the other day though I don't remember in what now...)

AFAIK, the only zope management interface on unmodified zope, is
/manage.  Pointers to documentation or source code for other
management interfaces are appreciated.

> and as such if your goal is 100% assurance that auth headers for
> management never pass in the clear this config might not cut it.
> I've been considering an alternate approach, I'd entertain any
> commentary.

>From SYN to FIN, tcpdump -s 100 -X just showed garbage, so that meets
my needs.  Can you describe a situation where the configuration is
broken and allows plaintext transmissions?  If the example is broken,
I would like to fix it.  It is important that the example not provide
a false sense of security.

> I was thinking of using client certs with mod_ssl's FakeBasicAuth
> function in conjunction with a specialized UserFolder that only
> authenticates requests which are received via a known secure route.
> I've verified that when using FakeBasicAuth and mod_rewrite/proxy
> that the proxied request is indeed sent with an appropriately
> crafted WWW-Authenticate header.  

Do you have a pointer to an example?

> The problem I've been mulling over is that this means the passwords
> of your users are all identical in the user folder. (read up on
> mod_ssl if don't understand why) This means that whatever variable
> that holds the flag indicating the request came from a secure source
> must be protected from any form of duress.  (Otherwise I can see a
> scenario where users could possibly script themselves new
> credentials.)  To date thats about as far as I've gotten with this
> idea, I'm not sure what the best way to protect a variable of that
> much importance would be.

My ssl-fu is not 31337, so I am not sure what you're your talking
about with UserFolder, and you lose me after that.  Apparently, I need
to read the ssl documentation more carefully.

If you don't trust the world to connect to your management interface
because you fear exposed interfaces, client certs (or at the very
least ip address based ACLS) seem like the way to go.

There are a few of ways which guarantee that no plaintext is
transmitted onto the network:

        1) ssh (inconvenient)
        2) vpn (haven't tried)
        3) ssl (seems to work)

SSL seems to be the broadest solution because you can get an SSL
browser on almost any system. 

Thanks,
-- 
Ricardo Anguiano
http://www.codesourcery.com


From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Mar 29 03:39:16 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:39:16 -0800
Subject: [Zope] fyi: apache + ssl + zope + zope management interface example
In-Reply-To: <86he9m6hl9.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
References: <86wuij5cr2.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com> <20030329005218.GV23616@audible.transient.net> <86he9m6hl9.fsf@potter.codesourcery.com>
Message-ID: <20030329033916.GZ23616@audible.transient.net>

Ricardo Anguiano wrote:
> I am unclear on the problem.  I am not using a cache.

If you're not using a cache then you shouldn't be vulnerable.  I'd
suggest using a protective configuration regardless though.

> a cache, wouldn't the "tainted" URIs just fill my cache with garbage
> and degrade performance?

Well cache poisoning is a little bit more annoying than that--it would
allow an attacker to make your site look like trash for subsequent
visitors (or worse given the issues described in issue 813, but thats
a different bug).
 
> Can you describe a situation where the configuration is
> broken and allows plaintext transmissions?

If I can find a spot in the zope source where there exists a
management method that doesn't have the word 'manage' in it, yes.  I
don't know of one off the top of my head though.  I'm just saying that
assuming that all ttw methods contain 'manage' somewhere in them may
be a brash assumption. (Especially if you have 3rd party products
installed.)
 
> Do you have a pointer to an example?

Well, consider the follow apache configuration fragment:

# this vhost requires a valid client cert
SSLVerifyClient require
# ^/zope* is proxied to a local zserver
RewriteRule ^/zope(.*) http://127.0.0.1:8080/VirtualHostBase/https/example.com:443/VirtualHostRoot/_vh_zope$1 [P,L]
# ^/zope* is considered a protected realm, only clients who's DN
# appears in the 'passwd' file will be allowed entry, proxy requests
# sent to zserver will include an auth header constructed from the DN
# and the password 'password'
<Location "/zope">
 SSLOptions FakeBasicAuth
 AuthName "Zope Management"
 AuthType Basic
 AuthUserFile passwd
 require valid-user
</Location>

Now the obvious issue with this is that every user's password is
"password" and their username is their DN (which tends to be long and
look ugly in the ZMI, but thats just cosmetic).

I dunno, I may just ditch this line of thought entirely as I can't see
any way to make this a safe practice on a multiuser machine without
reverting to unix domain sockets, and that requires hacking the hell
out of mod_rewrite or possibly mod_proxy.  This probably just isn't
worth all the effort.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"Most people wouldn't know music if it came up and bit them on the ass."
                                                        -Frank Zappa


From shiva_t@infosys.com  Sat Mar 29 05:39:05 2003
From: shiva_t@infosys.com (Shiva Kumar T)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:09:05 +0530
Subject: [Zope] Information required on integrating zope with Microsoft Indexing Service
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From arthur.tomas@web.de  Sat Mar 29 08:40:29 2003
From: arthur.tomas@web.de (Arthur Tomas)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:40:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ExternalEditor/OpenOffice
Message-ID: <200303290840.h2T8eTe07898@mailgate5.cinetic.de>

It works better (oowriter.exe starts) since I put the following line:
editor="F:\Program Files\OpenOffice.org1.0\program\soffice.exe" "%1"
into ZopeEdit.in  (Thanks to Paul!)
but:
after oowriter.exe has been started,  I get the error-message:
"ExternalEditor lost connection to Editor Process". There is no Firewall
on my system...

Chris Withers <chrisw@nipltd.com> schrieb am 28.03.03 21:55:44:
> 
> Jordi wrote:
> > 
> > I am having the same problem. OpenOffice 1.0.2 + W2K + Zope-2.6+External 
> > Editor 0.5
> > 
> > Does Webdav have to be enabled  or not filtered by the firewall?
> 
> If you're using the WebDAV source port on another port, then that port will have 
> to be opened through your firewall...
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 

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From philipp@weitershausen.de  Sat Mar 29 09:24:42 2003
From: philipp@weitershausen.de (Philipp von Weitershausen)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 10:24:42 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Re: ZopeTree: another patch
In-Reply-To: <3E845677.6000300@upfrontsystems.co.za>
References: <3E845677.6000300@upfrontsystems.co.za>
Message-ID: <3E85665A.3020500@weitershausen.de>

Hi Jean and all,

> Herewith, another patch against ZopeTree-1-1. It corrects
> a bug in the previous patch, and changes the functionality
> to allow pre-expanded trees.

Thank you! I will review the patch asap. I am currently at the DZUG 
meeting, that's why I haven't responded earlier.

Phil



From ddn_ddn@yahoo.dk  Sat Mar 29 13:34:25 2003
From: ddn_ddn@yahoo.dk (Danny)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:34:25 -0000
Subject: [Zope] newbie - howto get a local javascript file to become a object in Zope
Message-ID: <b647d1+hn2d@eGroups.com>

Hi




First I would like to excuse those stupid questions, but allthough Im 
trying its hard to find the information elsewhere.




I have a javascript file located at my local harddisk and I want it to 
become an object in zope. I have already tried to use manage_addFile, 
but it doesnt seem to find the file. In Zope mangement view its easy 
enough to create a txt-file and get it on working, but when I want to 
do the exact same thing in a Product created with Python, it just 
wont!


So far I have also tried to find some other objects that I might use 
instead of manage_addFile, but havent succeded yet.




any idears?




Regards




Danny Nielsen




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sat Mar 29 15:19:04 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 29 Mar 2003 07:19:04 -0800
Subject: [Zope] newbie - howto get a local javascript file to become a
 object in Zope
In-Reply-To: <b647d1+hn2d@eGroups.com>
References: <b647d1+hn2d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <1048951143.7332.128.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 05:34, Danny wrote:
> I have a javascript file located at my local harddisk and I want it to 
> become an object in zope. 

OK.  Use the Add Product menu to make a new DTML Method, paste your
JavaScript code in and save.

JavaScript is just text as far as Zope is concerned.  Zope doesn't treat
it any differently than regular old markup.  Any techniques you use for
managing, formatting, and delivering text can be used with JavaScript.


> In Zope mangement view its easy 
> enough to create a txt-file and get it on working, but when I want to 
> do the exact same thing in a Product created with Python, it just 
> wont!

Well... products have no trouble using objects created in the ZMI.  If
you want to do this *without* adding an object to the ZMI, put the
JavaScript code in a DTML file that gets associated with an interface in
your product code.

I'd also advise becomming pretty solid on Zope basics before taking on
Products.  It doen't make much sense to extend Zope until you have a
pretty solid grasp of what's already available to you.

HTH,

Dylan



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sat Mar 29 21:30:59 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:30:59 -0600
Subject: [Zope] newbie - howto get a local javascript file to become a
 object in Zope
References: <b647d1+hn2d@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <3E861093.7080505@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>I have a javascript file located at my local harddisk and I want it to 
>become an object in zope. I have already tried to use manage_addFile, 
>but it doesnt seem to find the file. In Zope mangement view its easy 
>enough to create a txt-file and get it on working, but when I want to 
>do the exact same thing in a Product created with Python, it just 
>wont!
>
>
>So far I have also tried to find some other objects that I might use 
>instead of manage_addFile, but havent succeded yet.
>
I'm mildly confused as to what you're trying to do here, and I suspect 
that's because you are too.

If you want to simply create a single object in your ZODB containing the 
text of your javascript file, do it through the web as a File, selecting 
your js file for upload. Change the content type to text/plain or 
whatever MIME type Javascript might be, and you're done. I do this with 
CSS all the time.

To add a File from python code, you must give it a fileish object or a 
string containing the contents as the 'file' parameter. That means that 
you must find the file via its path and create a Python file-ish object 
(usually by way of the built-in open() method) or read its contents into 
a string. This you can pass to manage_addFile. It won't deal with a path.

Selecting the file and getting the data in the proper format is done 
automatically by your browser for the input type of 'file'. Outside it, 
you must do it yourself.

If you're subclassing File (to make, say, a JavascriptFile) you'll have 
to write your own 'manage_addWhatever' function to be called from the 
web or other Products. It can be almost identical to manage_addFile, but 
you must call your new Product's class constructor, and not the File one.

            --jcc




From vng1@mac.com  Sat Mar 29 23:20:59 2003
From: vng1@mac.com (Victor Ng)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:20:59 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope PCGI under OSX
Message-ID: <19D3BA1C-623D-11D7-A6CA-00039373D624@mac.com>

I'm trying to get Zope to run with Apache on my OSX machine (10.2.4), 
but I can't figure out how to configure PCGI.

I've compiled the pcgi-wrapper executable, but I'm not sure if it works 
- is there a way I can test it?

The zope server is currently running under it's own user named 'zope' 
and I can access it normally under port 8080 - including the management 
screens.

I don't seem to have a Zope.cgi (or pcgi) file created after I 
installed Zope 2.6.1 from source.

I've tried hand building a Zope.cgi and placing it under 
/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables with the following contents:

#!/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi-wrapperPCGI_NAME=Zope
PCGI_PORT=8090
PCGI_MODULE_PATH=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/lib/python/Main.py
PCGI_PUBLISHER=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi_publisher.py
PCGI_EXE=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi
PCGI_SOCKET_FILE=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi.soc
PCGI_PID_FILE=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi.pid
PCGI_ERROR_LOG=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi.log
PCGI_DISPLAY_ERRORS=1
BOBO_REALM=Zope
BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=1
INSTANCE_HOME=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1

How do I glue Apache to Zope using PCGI?  Where can I find 
documentation on how to use PCGI?  I get the feeling that I'm doing 
something wrong with permissions - but I'm lost as to what to do.

vic



From list@zettai.net  Sat Mar 29 23:35:53 2003
From: list@zettai.net (george donnelly)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:35:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <1048707181.7223.66.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net>

[Dylan Reinhardt wrote (zope@dylanreinhardt.com) on 3/26/03 2:33 PM]

> On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 01:39, jamesd@mena.org.au wrote:
>> If I log in to plone2 as the user Demo, then go to the following url:
>> http://my.server/plone2/plone1
>> The permissions are acquired from the demo site giving full Manager access
>> to my main plone site. This is obviously a serious problem.
> 
> Yep.  This is a huge vulnerability in certain configurations.
> 
> But the *real* problem is not that plone1 methods can be applied to
> plone2 objects.  That is a feature, not a bug. :-)

(butting into this thread late)

right, this is aquisition. if you have index_html in the same folder as
standard_html_footer and do <dtml-var standard_html_footer> in your
index_html, it pulls that one and not one above. Same idea with folders,
right?

> Rather, the problem is that you have implicitly *permitted* this to take
> place by using common roles across sites.  I suspect that you're hardly
> alone in setting up your site this way.  In fact, I was auditing one of
> my own sites and stumbled across a variant of this technique that
> allowed arbitrary access to virtually any object on the server.  Yikes!

I'm not so sure its because of this...

> I'm working on a howto for this concern... but in the interim, I'd
> strongly recommend taking three steps to secure *any* multi-user,
> multi-host Zope app:
> 
> 1. Reserve the Manager role for server administration only.  Just as
> importantly, don't *ever* assign a Manager proxy role unless you are
> certain you've worked out all the implications of that method being
> applied to arbitrary objects.
> 
> 2. Use different roles for different groups of users.  Create
> site-specific, function-specific roles like site1_admin, site2_admin,
> site1_user, etc.  Use server-wide roles  sparingly and define them
> narrowly (send_mail, add_user, etc).

I tested this out and found it did not work. I had two folders (folder1,
folder2) side by side in the same container (folder). I gave a user in
folder1 the role X_admin, which role had all the same perms as manager. this
is the only role this user had. this user was still able to call
folder1/folder2 and do what he liked in folder2.

> 3. Disable/restrict "view folder contents" permissions for all folders
> that are parents of your site root folders.  Leaving that permission
> turned on for Anonymous (the default) allows virtually anyone to obtain
> details about your server setup that are quite handy for setting up
> cross-site scripting exploits.  It's shockingly easy to do this and
> there are few (if any) reasons why you'd want that feature enabled for
> parents of your site roots anyway.

I don't see this permission anywhere... Do you mean "Access contents
information" ?

I would add that turning off WebDAV access for anonymous users is a good
idea.

<-->
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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sat Mar 29 23:43:56 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 15:43:56 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net>
References: <1048707181.7223.66.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com> <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <20030329234356.GA23616@audible.transient.net>

george donnelly wrote:
> I would add that turning off WebDAV access for anonymous users is a good
> idea.

http://collector.zope.org/Zope/790

Authenticated webdav will evidently be the default in 2.7, though I
suppose that will only affect new installations.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"It's almost impossible to overestimate the unimportance of most things."
							-John Logue


From jens@zope.com  Sat Mar 29 23:47:47 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 18:47:47 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope PCGI under OSX
In-Reply-To: <19D3BA1C-623D-11D7-A6CA-00039373D624@mac.com>
Message-ID: <D8028C8C-6240-11D7-B360-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

if there is no pressing reason to use PCGI then don't use it. use 
mod_rewrite to rewrite request URLs to reach zope. there are numerous 
howtos on zope.org for that. it's simpler and faster.

jens


On Saturday, Mar 29, 2003, at 18:20 US/Eastern, Victor Ng wrote:

> I'm trying to get Zope to run with Apache on my OSX machine (10.2.4), 
> but I can't figure out how to configure PCGI.
>
> I've compiled the pcgi-wrapper executable, but I'm not sure if it 
> works - is there a way I can test it?
>
> The zope server is currently running under it's own user named 'zope' 
> and I can access it normally under port 8080 - including the 
> management screens.
>
> I don't seem to have a Zope.cgi (or pcgi) file created after I 
> installed Zope 2.6.1 from source.
>
> I've tried hand building a Zope.cgi and placing it under 
> /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables with the following contents:
>
> #!/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi-wrapperPCGI_NAME=Zope
> PCGI_PORT=8090
> PCGI_MODULE_PATH=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/lib/python/Main.py
> PCGI_PUBLISHER=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi_publisher.py
> PCGI_EXE=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi
> PCGI_SOCKET_FILE=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi.soc
> PCGI_PID_FILE=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi.pid
> PCGI_ERROR_LOG=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1/pcgi/pcgi.log
> PCGI_DISPLAY_ERRORS=1
> BOBO_REALM=Zope
> BOBO_DEBUG_MODE=1
> INSTANCE_HOME=/usr/local/zope-2_6_1
>
> How do I glue Apache to Zope using PCGI?  Where can I find 
> documentation on how to use PCGI?  I get the feeling that I'm doing 
> something wrong with permissions - but I'm lost as to what to do.
>
> vic
>
>
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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar 30 00:26:14 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 29 Mar 2003 16:26:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net>
References: <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net>
Message-ID: <1048983973.21511.32.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 15:35, george donnelly wrote:
> In fact, I was auditing one of
> > my own sites and stumbled across a variant of this technique that
> > allowed arbitrary access to virtually any object on the server.  Yikes!
> 
> I'm not so sure its because of this...

What do you think it might be?


> > 2. Use different roles for different groups of users.  Create
> > site-specific, function-specific roles like site1_admin, site2_admin,
> > site1_user, etc.  Use server-wide roles  sparingly and define them
> > narrowly (send_mail, add_user, etc).
> 
> I tested this out and found it did not work. I had two folders (folder1,
> folder2) side by side in the same container (folder). I gave a user in
> folder1 the role X_admin, which role had all the same perms as manager. this
> is the only role this user had. this user was still able to call
> folder1/folder2 and do what he liked in folder2.

I'm not sure if there's enough information to know what you're saying,
exactly.  That won't stop me from responding, though. :-)

The roots of most virtual hosts are going to be viewable by Anonymous,
as will much of their content.  As such, those objects can be acquired
at will by anyone.  

It's very difficult to prevent acquisition from allowing the *viewing*
of objects cross-site since keeping these things viewable by Anonymous
is pretty darn convenient.  

In many situations, it could be condidered a problem that it's possible
to make any part of site2 *appear* to be a part of site1... but again,
that's a problem that boils down to two sites sharing the same role,
Anonymous.  I'm not saying that creating different Anonymous roles is
warranted, BTW... but as far as I can tell, role sharing is the nature
of the problem.

If you configure priv_method in folder2 such that it is only viewable by
folder2_admin, you won't be able to see it if your role is
folder1_admin.  This suggests that the roles required for privileged
operations should be tailored very carefully so as to available only to
those intended to have them.  Re-using roles is too permissive in most
cases.

Or have you really found a way to circumvent site-specific roles?

> 
> > 3. Disable/restrict "view folder contents" permissions for all folders
> 
> I don't see this permission anywhere... Do you mean "Access contents
> information" ?

Yes... that's what it's called.  I think it was "view folder contents"
at one point, but it's obviously not called that any more.  :-)

> 
> I would add that turning off WebDAV access for anonymous users is a good
> idea.

Absolutely.

Dylan



From jamesd@mena.org.au  Sun Mar 30 00:40:12 2003
From: jamesd@mena.org.au (James Davies)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:40:12 +1000
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <1048983973.21511.32.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
References: <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net> <1048983973.21511.32.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <200303301040.12922.jamesd@mena.org.au>

Having multiple role seems like a huge overkill. When you get down to it, the 
users are defined in acl_users, a regular object. If you stripped the 
aquisition wrapper and placed acl_users in the context of the actual 
container, you would bypass all those problems as the acl_users would only be 
effective in siblings and their child nodes, which is the expected behavour. 

> If you configure priv_method in folder2 such that it is only viewable by
> folder2_admin, you won't be able to see it if your role is
> folder1_admin.  This suggests that the roles required for privileged
> operations should be tailored very carefully so as to available only to
> those intended to have them.  Re-using roles is too permissive in most
> cases.



From mattyoungrev2@yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 02:26:08 2003
From: mattyoungrev2@yahoo.com (Matt Young)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 20:26:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Extensionless Zope Objects in Dreamweaver MX
In-Reply-To: <20030329170008.32705.622.Mailman@mail.python.org>
References: <20030329170008.32705.622.Mailman@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <oprmts1un48q1z1s@smtp.mail.yahoo.com>

I haven't used it, but I think ExternalEditor lets you launch an editor 
like DreamWeaver to edit an HTML document w/o the need to explicitely 
download it.

Matt


From SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae  Sun Mar 30 04:05:02 2003
From: SamirMishra@cbuae.gov.ae (Samir Mishra)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:05:02 +0400
Subject: [Zope] HTTP Quoting, XHTML
Message-ID: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C123@AUHEXCH>

Hello all,

Is there a Python/Zope function for HTTP quoting of strings?

Also, we're doing all of our development in strict XHTML. So far things have
gone pretty smoothly. If anyone has had any prior experience, I would very
much appreciate getting some idea of things to watch out for, problems,
incompatibilities, etc. that I may need to watch out for.

Thanks.

Regards,
Samir Mishra
Central Bank of the U.A.E.
P. O. Box 854
Abu Dhabi
United Arab Emirates


From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sun Mar 30 05:26:00 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 21:26:00 -0800
Subject: [Zope] HTTP Quoting, XHTML
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C123@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C123@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <20030330052600.GB23616@audible.transient.net>

Samir Mishra wrote:
> Also, we're doing all of our development in strict XHTML. So far things have
> gone pretty smoothly. If anyone has had any prior experience, I would very
> much appreciate getting some idea of things to watch out for, problems,
> incompatibilities, etc. that I may need to watch out for.

Use PageTemplates (TAL) they'll help a lot.  The other common snag is
you must either avoid using Image objects directly, or patch the Image
class to stop behaving in its current braindamaged manner.  See
http://collector.zope.org/Zope/634 for why.  IMO the "fix" on HEAD
isn't, but I gave up trying to use the stock Image class a long time
ago.

-- 
Jamie Heilman                   http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/
"...thats the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle 
 into a lion's mouth and flicking his lovespuds with a wet towel, pure 
 insanity..."						-Rimmer


From johanc@easypublisher.com  Sun Mar 30 07:31:39 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 07:31:39 +0000
Subject: [Zope] who is using webdav to build zope site?
In-Reply-To: <3E84B806.6090403@nipltd.com>
References: <000901c2f2ee$83a93d40$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030330071828.0296e640@mail.torped.se>

At 21:00 2003-03-28 +0000, Chris Withers said:
>Gilles wrote:
>>Hello
>>I am just curious: I try to use webdav to edit my web-sites
>
>I do :-)

Me to :-)

>>Question: what is the best (free) webdav client/editor that you have used?
>
>Not free, but cheap and very good; I use WebDrive on Windows...

I also use WebDrive (for Windows). I found it slightly more stable than 
TeamDrive.

http://www.southrivertech.com/
http://www.teamstream.com/

Best Regards,
Johan Carlsson

PS. Remember to use the WebDAV source port when you work through WebDAV.
Also notice that all product developers hasn't written WebDAV APIs for 
there product
which will result in failures when trying to access those object.

Product developers, shape up! ;-)


-- 
Easy Publisher Developers Team
Johan Carlsson
johanc@easypublisher.com

Mail:
Birkagatan 9
SE-113 36  Stockholm
Sweden

Phone +46-(0)8-32 31 23
Fax +46-(0)8-32 31 83
Mobil +46-(0)70-558 25 24
http://www.easypublisher.com





From nicolas.laurance@wanadoo.fr  Sun Mar 30 10:06:34 2003
From: nicolas.laurance@wanadoo.fr (Nicolas LAURANCE)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:06:34 +0200
Subject: [Zope] pb upgrading Zope 2.5.0 -> 2.6.1
Message-ID: <001201c2f6a4$0be435d0$0a00000a@Giga>

hello all,

question 1 :
here is my situation :

I have developped a website under zope 2.5.0, mostly w/ dtml a python
scripts.
It is based on zclass defined in products (not external products)
3 of them were imported without pbs under Zope 2.6.1, but one of them (that
has nothing special), when I import it raises :

Error Type: ImportError
Error Value: No module named iclass

but I didn't define any iclass, it must be internal to Zope.
How can I handle this ?


If i rewrite the product under Zope 2.6.1, what should I do fot it to be
able to handle mt ols instances ? reuse the same class id ?

any pointer appreciated.

question 2:
when i import folders, the bobobase_modification_time of all the objects is
reset to the date of importation.
how can I keep this date unchanged when importing ?


thank you for your answers zopers.



From jens@bkinformatik.dk  Sun Mar 30 15:51:38 2003
From: jens@bkinformatik.dk (Jens JB. Bjerre)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 17:51:38 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zserver or Apache or IIS
Message-ID: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC545@server1.bkinformatik.dk>

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From inigoserna@terra.es  Sun Mar 30 15:58:19 2003
From: inigoserna@terra.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=F1igo?= Serna)
Date: 30 Mar 2003 17:58:19 +0200
Subject: [Zope] html form authentication
Message-ID: <1049039899.9198.10.camel@inigo.katxi.org>

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Hello,

I want to authenticate users from acl_users with my own HTML form and a pyt=
hon script.
I can't use user._getPassword() because it's an internal method.
and it seems user.authenticate function calls browser authentication again.
How could I achieve this?

This is the code I use:

*************** ZPT "form" ***************
...
        <form action=3D"login" method=3D"post">
          <table class=3D"form">
            <tbody>
              <tr>
                <th class=3D"text">Name: </th>
                <td><input name=3D"user" size=3D"12" maxlength=3D"12"
value=3D""></td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <th class=3D"text">Password: </th>
                <td><input name=3D"password" type=3D"password" size=3D"12"
maxlength=3D"8" value=3D""></td>
              </tr>
              <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
              <tr>
                <td align=3D"center">
                  <input type=3D"reset" value=3D"Clean">
                </td>
                <td align=3D"center">
                  <input type=3D"SUBMIT" value=3D"Submit">
                </td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table>
        </form>
...
*********************************************

*************** Script (Python) "login" ***************
request =3D container.REQUEST
RESPONSE =3D  request.RESPONSE
user =3D container.acl_users.getUser(request.user)
try:
    if user.authenticate('the_password', request):=20
        print 'OK'
    else:
        print 'FAILED'
except AttributeError:
    print 'User doesn\' exist'
return printed
*********************************************

Thanks in advance,
I=F1igo

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From vasanthsena@yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 16:45:10 2003
From: vasanthsena@yahoo.com (vasanthsena x)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:45:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20030330164510.69464.qmail@web12102.mail.yahoo.com>

Can anyone tell me what OFSP is.Also is it possible to
write a python script that adds new folders in zope.

Thanks,
S.

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From CVizitiu@gbif.org  Sun Mar 30 16:58:30 2003
From: CVizitiu@gbif.org (Vizitiu, Ciprian)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:58:30 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Is this a bug?
Message-ID: <4C99FF632DBDB341B93ED70B89FC087601FC0D@home3>

> 
> Vizitiu, Ciprian wrote at 2003-3-26 11:03 +0100:
>  > Zope 2.5.1. on Linux (also produced on 2.6.0); Macromedia 
> HomeSite 5 on XP. 
>  > 
>  > Open and edit some dtml via FTP. After several open/save 
> opperations in  > HomeSite you can no longer access the 
> management interface with IE! Tested  > with IE 5.x and 6.x 
> on W2K/XP and IE on Mac. The page time-outs after a  > while 
> with the standard IE error message. It looks like the site is 
> down.  > The only way out of the problem is 
> Mozilla/Netscape/Opera: You open the  > management interface 
> wo any problem at all; you have to go and open in the  > web 
> interface ALL the documents that have been edited through the 
> ftp  > interface and SAVE them. That's it! Double click the 
> link and then press  > Save. It apparently fixes the problem 
> but it looks very scary. Is this a bug  > or is there 
> something wrong in my config?
> 
> I sounds strange....
> 
> However, when you are able to access Zope with other 
> browsers, it does not seem to be a Zope problem (alone).
> 
> 
> We use HomeSite (and IE 5.5) routinely and do not the these 
> problems. What we see, however, is a big need for file 
> descriptors. We had to set the file descriptor limit for Zope 
> very high. We also see lots of "sockets of unknown type" 
> opened by the Zope process and we do not yet understand where 
> they are there.

The bug I'm describing is VERY annoying and very real. I managed to get a
20M snapshot of a Data.fs that exhibits the bug. I thought that the Zope
team would be interested... ;-) Anyway, since some operations done in the
interface brings functionality back it is something at least partially Zope.
The only major problem is that it is not predictable! You can sometimes do
tens of open/save from HomeSite and nothing goes wrong! 

I've dumped some of the traffic towards the machines but I didn't had time
to analyze it. It looks like IE's requests leave the XP workstation arrive
at the Zope server but the Zope remains silent... :-|


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar 30 08:06:26 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:06:26 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Extensionless Zope Objects in Dreamweaver MX
In-Reply-To: <3E842187.7900.D422839@localhost>
References: <3E842187.7900.D422839@localhost>
Message-ID: <16006.42370.384200.438070@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

hpinson@indepthl.com wrote at 2003-3-28 10:18 -0700:
 > Has anyone discovered a workaround / hack for editing extensionless 
 > Zope objects (ZPT, DTML-Methods, DTML-Documents) directly in 
 > Dreamweaver MX?

I do not use Dreamweaver.

But I saw numerous suggestions to work around this problem
in the mailing list.

Maybe, you search the archives ;-)


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar 30 07:57:30 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:57:30 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
In-Reply-To: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D62C@desi2>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D62C@desi2>
Message-ID: <16006.41834.770128.189810@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote at 2003-3-28 14:18 -0800:
 > Copying a FileStorage while transactions are being appended to the end of it
 > potentially means that the copy completes with before the transaction commit
 > is totally flushed to the file, so there is always the possibility that your
 > backup is going to need to have half-written transactions manually truncated
 > to be used on either a replica or a new Zope/ZSS instance; this isn't that
 > big of a deal ....

When I understand this right, then this is done automatically 
when the "FileStorage" is opened.

I refer to a question in the mailing list: Someone reported
many files with strange extensions in his "var" folder.
A ZODB developer (Jeremy?) replied they were incomplete
transaction records found when the storage was opened.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Sun Mar 30 08:07:30 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:07:30 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Call Product Constructor
In-Reply-To: <20030328223923.86450.qmail@mail.com>
References: <20030328223923.86450.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <16006.42434.20548.113258@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Matt Ficken wrote at 2003-3-28 17:39 -0500:
 > This is the __init__.py of my product (ZID):
 > ...
 > I want the constructor ZID.manage_add_folder to get called at the end of the initialize function. How do I do this?

Maybe you look at the third party product "StartupScripts"...


Dieter


From jens@zope.com  Sun Mar 30 17:24:48 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:24:48 -0500
Subject: [Zope] html form authentication
In-Reply-To: <1049039899.9198.10.camel@inigo.katxi.org>
Message-ID: <820DD572-62D4-11D7-9D00-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

use the CookieCrumber product (-> search zope.org) to do cookie-based=20
authentication. do not attempt to "hand-roll" authentication by calling=20=

methods on the user folder. it will not work.

jens


On Sunday, Mar 30, 2003, at 10:58 US/Eastern, I=F1igo Serna wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I want to authenticate users from acl_users with my own HTML form and=20=

> a python script.
> I can't use user._getPassword() because it's an internal method.
> and it seems user.authenticate function calls browser authentication=20=

> again.
> How could I achieve this?
>
> This is the code I use:
>
> *************** ZPT "form" ***************
> ...
>         <form action=3D"login" method=3D"post">
>           <table class=3D"form">
>             <tbody>
>               <tr>
>                 <th class=3D"text">Name: </th>
>                 <td><input name=3D"user" size=3D"12" maxlength=3D"12"
> value=3D""></td>
>               </tr>
>               <tr>
>                 <th class=3D"text">Password: </th>
>                 <td><input name=3D"password" type=3D"password" =
size=3D"12"
> maxlength=3D"8" value=3D""></td>
>               </tr>
>               <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
>               <tr>
>                 <td align=3D"center">
>                   <input type=3D"reset" value=3D"Clean">
>                 </td>
>                 <td align=3D"center">
>                   <input type=3D"SUBMIT" value=3D"Submit">
>                 </td>
>               </tr>
>             </tbody>
>           </table>
>         </form>
> ...
> *********************************************
>
> *************** Script (Python) "login" ***************
> request =3D container.REQUEST
> RESPONSE =3D  request.RESPONSE
> user =3D container.acl_users.getUser(request.user)
> try:
>     if user.authenticate('the_password', request):
>         print 'OK'
>     else:
>         print 'FAILED'
> except AttributeError:
>     print 'User doesn\' exist'
> return printed
> *********************************************
>
> Thanks in advance,
> I=F1igo
> <signature.asc>=



From maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de  Sun Mar 30 17:30:26 2003
From: maik.jablonski@uni-bielefeld.de (Maik Jablonski)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:30:26 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: Add Folders via PythonScripts [was] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20030330164510.69464.qmail@web12102.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030330164510.69464.qmail@web12102.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b679j8$6qh$1@main.gmane.org>

vasanthsena x wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what OFSP is.

Please use subjects with meaning...

OFSP probably stands for Object File System Product

(taken from 
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html#ftn.c37ac15c11b5b2c12).

It gives you a hook to the constructors defined in additional Zope-Products.

 > Also is it possible to
 > write a python script that adds new folders in zope.

You can use

context.manage_addFolder('test',title='Testfolder')

or

context.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addFolder('test1','Testfolder1')

Generally: If you want to call the constructor of a special product, in 
most cases something like this should work:

context.manage_addProduct['SpecialProduct'].manage_addSpecialProduct(id,title)


--Cheers, Maik




From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar 30 17:31:11 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 30 Mar 2003 09:31:11 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Security Problem
In-Reply-To: <200303301040.12922.jamesd@mena.org.au>
References: <BAAB9809.24C6E%list@zettai.net>
 <1048983973.21511.32.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
 <200303301040.12922.jamesd@mena.org.au>
Message-ID: <1049045470.21511.956.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 16:40, James Davies wrote:
> Having multiple role seems like a huge overkill. When you get down to it, the 
> users are defined in acl_users, a regular object. If you stripped the 
> aquisition wrapper and placed acl_users in the context of the actual 
> container, you would bypass all those problems as the acl_users would only be 
> effective in siblings and their child nodes, which is the expected behavour. 
> 

Yes... that will do the trick in many situations, though it has its own
significant shortcomings.  I use a lot of shared stuff between virtual
hosts so it doesn't work for me to choke off privileged upward
acquisition.  

Partitioning roles may only be relevant for certain configurations or it
may just be a paranoia layer.  I suspect that answering that question
will require a great deal more time and effort than I'm currently able
to put to the task.  Then again, the OP *appears* to have supplied us
with an example of where it's necessary.  Difficult to say for sure.

In any event you should, of course, use the configuration that is
best-suited for your particular requirements.

Dylan







From charlie@begeistert.org  Sun Mar 30 16:40:50 2003
From: charlie@begeistert.org (Charlie Clark)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:40:50 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Fwd: [Zope-DB] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20030330184050.581.1@wonderland.1049042122.fake>

This was posted to Zope-DB by mistake.

Charlie

On 2003-03-30 at 06:46:52 [+0200], Santoshi Reddy <sreddy@cise.ufl.edu> 
wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I would like to create folders in zope.We have to use the following 
> python code
> 
> context.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addFile(id,
>                                          title="", file=comments)
> 
> 
> Does Anyone know what OFSP is?
> 
> Thanks,
> S.


From zope@thewebsons.com  Sun Mar 30 17:44:58 2003
From: zope@thewebsons.com (beno)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:44:58 -0400
Subject: [Zope] Installing a 2nd Distro
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030330134328.0210e6f0@mail.web.vi>

Hi;
I'm trying to install an older version of Zope in addition to my currently 
running version and running into difficulties. While running

python w_pcgi.py

Zope first complained (while compiling) that it couldn't find file

/usr/local/bin/python2.2/config/Makefile.pre.in

Indeed, there was no such file. But there *was* such a file here:

/usr/local/bin/Python-2.2.2/Makefile.pre.in

so I created a symbolic link (didn't figure it would hurt any ;) Now I get 
this error:

Compiling extensions in lib/python
cp /usr/local/lib/python2.2/config/Makefile.pre.in .
make -f Makefile.pre.in boot PYTHON=/usr/local/bin/python
make: *** No rule to make target `boot'.  Stop.
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/home/httpd/ZopeInstallation/Zope_software_home2/w_pcgi.py", line 
39, in ?
     if __name__=='__main__': main(sys.argv[0])
   File "/home/httpd/ZopeInstallation/Zope_software_home2/w_pcgi.py", line 
37, in main
     import wo_pcgi; wo_pcgi.main(me)
   File "/home/httpd/ZopeInstallation/Zope_software_home2/wo_pcgi.py", line 
33, in main
     import build_extensions
   File 
"/home/httpd/ZopeInstallation/Zope_software_home2/inst/build_extensions.py", 
line 30, in ?
     make('lib','python')
   File "/home/httpd/ZopeInstallation/Zope_software_home2/inst/do.py", line 
62, in make
     do('make -f Makefile.pre.in boot PYTHON=%s' % sys.executable)
   File "/home/httpd/ZopeInstallation/Zope_software_home2/inst/do.py", line 
32, in do
     if i and picky: raise SystemError, i
SystemError: 512

What to do? TIA,
beno 




From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Sun Mar 30 18:13:53 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:13:53 -0800
Subject: Adding folders, was: RE: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D633@desi2>

OFSP is a product that comes with Zope that provides the necessary machinery
to allow you to add folders and 'versions' (ZODB versions, which are
long-running-transactions that usually cause more trouble than good) in the
Zope Management Interface.   Code in lib/python/Products/OFSP also makes it
possible to use ZClasses to subclass a folder or other classes defined in
lib/python/OFS, as well as use these classes in the ZMI.

If you want to add new folders programmatically, you can call the factory
method defined for Folder from a through-the-web Python Script object:

context[id].manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addFolder(id='123',
title='title')

FYI, if you try to do this and the folder is already there, you will get an
error, for which reason you may want to consider wrapping this in a
try/except pair that deals with any exceptions if you try to run a script
that creates folders (either that, or give your folders meaningfully unique
IDs).

The following google search results might be a starting point for more info
on doing this in other situations where you need to add content
programatically.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=zope+adding+programmatical
ly&spell=1

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: vasanthsena x [mailto:vasanthsena@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:45 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)


Can anyone tell me what OFSP is.Also is it possible to
write a python script that adds new folders in zope.

Thanks,
S.

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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Sun Mar 30 18:22:32 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:22:32 -0800
Subject: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope] Ha
 rdware for Zope + ZEO)
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D634@desi2>

+1

I have an application that needs a performance boost that this might offer
over my existing workaround.  In my application, I have online classified ad
listings for real-estate listings(perhaps thousands in any given category),
and need to sort on a geographic area, and then on a title.  My current
strategy is to do my own smart-but-bloated multi-pass sort of the entire
result set for each request, then display batches using that result set,
which uses more RAM and CPU than I would ideally like.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Maurer [mailto:dieter@handshake.de]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:27 PM
To: Wankyu Choi
Cc: sean.upton@uniontrib.com; tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com;
mvalente@ruido-visual.pt; zope@zope.org
Subject: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope]
Hardware for Zope + ZEO)


Wankyu Choi wrote at 2003-3-27 05:24 +0900:
 > ....
 > I need two sort keys: one to sort the threads (parents) and the
 > other to sort their replies (childs). ZCatalog supports a single sort
index,

I have code to extend ZCatalog's sorting capability to arbitrary many
sort keys.

Maybe, we want something like this in the Zope core?


Dieter


From dbasch@yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 18:48:32 2003
From: dbasch@yahoo.com (Derek Basch)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:48:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
Message-ID: <20030330184832.42809.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>

I am stuck on a minor problem that someone here could
probably help me with. I have posted this a few times
now and gotten no answers so ANY help is greatly
appreciated.

I am trying to simulate an HTTP request to the Zope
Server using the techniques described in the "Testing
and Debugging" chapter of the Developers Guide: 

>>> ZPublisher.Zope('')
Status: 200 OK
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python
(www.python.org)
Content-Length: 1238
Content-Type: text/html

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Zope</TITLE>

  ... blah blah...

</BODY></HTML>
>>> 

However, I am unable to get the simulated HTTP
requests to return anything when I mimic the tutorial:


>>>
>>> ZPublisher.Zope('http://localhost:8080/')
Status: 404 Not Found
.....
<P><STRONG>Resource not found</STRONG></P> Sorry, the
requested resource does not exist.<p>Check the URL and
try again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b>
http://127.0.0.1/Zope/h
ttp%3A</p>
.....
>>>

I noticed that (http://127.0.0.1/Zope/h
ttp%3A) is being called instead of
(http://127.0.0.1:8080/).

It seems that I need to set the SERVER_URL environment
variable to (http://localhost:8080/). I have tried
doing so like this:

>>> ZPublisher.Zope("http://localhost:8080/", -e
SERVER_URL="http://localhost:8080")

but I get a syntax error.

Can ANYONE answer my (apparently) stupid questions? Do
I need to set the SERVER_URL environment variable
prior to debugging? Is there something wrong with my
Zope installation? Am I retarded beyond belief?

Thanks Everyone,
Derek Basch



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From luciano@hiper.com.br  Sun Mar 30 18:53:00 2003
From: luciano@hiper.com.br (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:53:00 -0300
Subject: [Zope] html form authentication
In-Reply-To: <1049039899.9198.10.camel@inigo.katxi.org>
Message-ID: <D46F1811-62E0-11D7-82BC-0003939E3E58@hiper.com.br>

Don't reinvent the wheel to do your own authentication. Check=20
exUserFolder: a very flexible product for implementing alternative=20
authentication methods.

--
Luciano

On domingo, mar 30, 2003, at 12:58 America/Sao_Paulo, I=F1igo Serna =
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I want to authenticate users from acl_users with my own HTML form and=20=

> a python script.
> I can't use user._getPassword() because it's an internal method.
> and it seems user.authenticate function calls browser authentication=20=

> again.
> How could I achieve this?



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Sun Mar 30 19:11:14 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 30 Mar 2003 11:11:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <20030330184832.42809.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030330184832.42809.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1049051473.21502.993.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 10:48, Derek Basch wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ZPublisher.Zope('http://localhost:8080/')
> Status: 404 Not Found
> .....
> <P><STRONG>Resource not found</STRONG></P> Sorry, the
> requested resource does not exist.<p>Check the URL and
> try again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b>
> http://127.0.0.1/Zope/h
> ttp%3A</p>

The error message says it can't find "http:".  Since that's the first 5
letters of what you typed in, I'd suspect this might be your problem.

And indeed it is.  

You're already connected to a running Zope instance, so there's no need
to specify the protocol or hostname.  Not only is there no need, it's
wrong.  You just need to specify what object you want to access,
relative to the root of the process you're connected to.

Try this:

ZPublisher.Zope('/path/to/object')

HTH,

Dylan



From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us  Sun Mar 30 20:49:27 2003
From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:49:27 -0500
Subject: [Zope] html form authentication
In-Reply-To: <820DD572-62D4-11D7-9D00-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <820DD572-62D4-11D7-9D00-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <200303301549.27900.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>

Perhaps it would be quite valuable to take CookieCrumbler or some equivalen=
t =20
and have it migrated into the official core (like the Core Session Manager=
=20
was)? It seems enough people are looking for this feature...

Regards,

Eron

On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:24 pm, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> use the CookieCrumber product (-> search zope.org) to do cookie-based
> authentication. do not attempt to "hand-roll" authentication by calling
> methods on the user folder. it will not work.
>
> jens
>
> On Sunday, Mar 30, 2003, at 10:58 US/Eastern, I=F1igo Serna wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to authenticate users from acl_users with my own HTML form and
> > a python script.
> > I can't use user._getPassword() because it's an internal method.
> > and it seems user.authenticate function calls browser authentication
> > again.
> > How could I achieve this?
> >
> > This is the code I use:
> >
> > *************** ZPT "form" ***************
> > ...
> >         <form action=3D"login" method=3D"post">
> >           <table class=3D"form">
> >             <tbody>
> >               <tr>
> >                 <th class=3D"text">Name: </th>
> >                 <td><input name=3D"user" size=3D"12" maxlength=3D"12"
> > value=3D""></td>
> >               </tr>
> >               <tr>
> >                 <th class=3D"text">Password: </th>
> >                 <td><input name=3D"password" type=3D"password" size=3D"=
12"
> > maxlength=3D"8" value=3D""></td>
> >               </tr>
> >               <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
> >               <tr>
> >                 <td align=3D"center">
> >                   <input type=3D"reset" value=3D"Clean">
> >                 </td>
> >                 <td align=3D"center">
> >                   <input type=3D"SUBMIT" value=3D"Submit">
> >                 </td>
> >               </tr>
> >             </tbody>
> >           </table>
> >         </form>
> > ...
> > *********************************************
> >
> > *************** Script (Python) "login" ***************
> > request =3D container.REQUEST
> > RESPONSE =3D  request.RESPONSE
> > user =3D container.acl_users.getUser(request.user)
> > try:
> >     if user.authenticate('the_password', request):
> >         print 'OK'
> >     else:
> >         print 'FAILED'
> > except AttributeError:
> >     print 'User doesn\' exist'
> > return printed
> > *********************************************
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > I=F1igo
> > <signature.asc>
>
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From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Sun Mar 30 20:58:01 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:58:01 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope]
 Hardware for Zope + ZEO)
In-Reply-To: <16004.55855.183927.22724@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <000201c2c9b7$8360c2f0$9002c9d3@wankyu>
 <016b01c2f3d5$ac36c790$0200a8c0@wankyu>
 <16004.55855.183927.22724@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1049065081@[192.168.0.2]>

This might be something for 2.7 if is compatible with older versions.

-aj

--On Samstag, 29. M=E4rz 2003 0:26 Uhr +0100 Dieter Maurer=20
<dieter@handshake.de> wrote:

> Wankyu Choi wrote at 2003-3-27 05:24 +0900:
>  > ....
>  > I need two sort keys: one to sort the threads (parents) and the
>  > other to sort their replies (childs). ZCatalog supports a single sort
> index,
>
> I have code to extend ZCatalog's sorting capability to arbitrary many
> sort keys.
>
> Maybe, we want something like this in the Zope core?
>
>
> Dieter
>
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From jamie@audible.transient.net  Sun Mar 30 22:25:38 2003
From: jamie@audible.transient.net (Jamie Heilman)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:25:38 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zserver or Apache or IIS
In-Reply-To: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC545@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC545@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <20030330222538.GD23616@audible.transient.net>

Jens JB. Bjerre wrote:
> Several instances of Zserver behind apache
 
This would be the best choice on UNIX.
 
-- 
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"You came all this way, without saying squat, and now you're trying
 to tell me a '56 Chevy can beat a '47 Buick in a dead quarter mile?
 I liked you better when you weren't saying squat kid."	-Buddy


From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sun Mar 30 22:25:29 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:25:29 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zserver or Apache or IIS
References: <23BF741DC57A074BA3D65FC1222A398DC545@server1.bkinformatik.dk>
Message-ID: <3E876ED9.3010004@jcameroncooper.com>

>
> If I have to host several sites on one machine, which is better:
>
> One instance of ZServer
>
> Several instances of Zserver behind apache
>
>  Several instances of Zserver behind IIS
>
I prefer (d) one instance of ZServer with a VHM behind one instance of 
Apache. It's fairly common, and you can find lots of examples of it. The 
benefits are

* Apache is well-hardened against the outside world and can do caching 
for extra speed (not to mention being free, simple, multi-platform, 
etc). Squid can also be good for caching.

* having all your sites in the same Zope instance simplifies management 
greatly. It's all on one port, on one backup, etc. VirtualHostMonster is 
a great thing.

                --jcc



From jccooper@jcameroncooper.com  Sun Mar 30 22:32:26 2003
From: jccooper@jcameroncooper.com (J Cameron Cooper)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:32:26 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Re: Add Folders via PythonScripts [was] (no subject)
References: <20030330164510.69464.qmail@web12102.mail.yahoo.com> <b679j8$6qh$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <3E87707A.8000102@jcameroncooper.com>

>
>
>> Can anyone tell me what OFSP is.
>
> Please use subjects with meaning...
>
> OFSP probably stands for Object File System Product
>
> (taken from 
> http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html#ftn.c37ac15c11b5b2c12). 
>
>
> It gives you a hook to the constructors defined in additional 
> Zope-Products.

Most of your standard Zope objects (File, Folder, Image, DTMLDocument et 
al.) are defined in lib/python/OFS

Products cannot be registered from there, but only in the Products 
directory, so OFSP is in the Products directory to register those 
Products using the usual machinery.

It also provides Versions.

This can all be determined by looking at (1) the readme in OFSP or (2) 
the source there.

            --jcc



From dbasch@yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 22:52:16 2003
From: dbasch@yahoo.com (Derek Basch)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:52:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <1049051473.21502.993.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <20030330225216.60023.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

Dylan,

Thanks for the reply. I see now that I was
misunderstanding how to include paths while simulating
a call to an object. So, I tried what you suggested:

ZPublisher.Zope('/test/index_html')

and here is the traceback:

<P><STRONG>Resource not found</STRONG></P>
Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.<p>Check
the URL and try again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b>
http://127.0.0.1/Zope/test</p>

It seems that it is still performing all traversals
with (http://127.0.0.1/Zope) as the root with no port
defined. Is this because of how the request is
simulated? Suggestions?

Thanks again,
Derek Basch

--- Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 10:48, Derek Basch wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> ZPublisher.Zope('http://localhost:8080/')
> > Status: 404 Not Found
> > .....
> > <P><STRONG>Resource not found</STRONG></P> Sorry,
> the
> > requested resource does not exist.<p>Check the URL
> and
> > try again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b>
> > http://127.0.0.1/Zope/h
> > ttp%3A</p>
> 
> The error message says it can't find "http:".  Since
> that's the first 5
> letters of what you typed in, I'd suspect this might
> be your problem.
> 
> And indeed it is.  
> 
> You're already connected to a running Zope instance,
> so there's no need
> to specify the protocol or hostname.  Not only is
> there no need, it's
> wrong.  You just need to specify what object you
> want to access,
> relative to the root of the process you're connected
> to.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> ZPublisher.Zope('/path/to/object')
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dylan
> 


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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 31 00:02:46 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 30 Mar 2003 16:02:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <20030330225216.60023.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030330225216.60023.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1049068965.21510.1057.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 14:52, Derek Basch wrote:
> So, I tried what you suggested:
> 
> ZPublisher.Zope('/test/index_html')
> 
> and here is the traceback:
> 
> <P><STRONG>Resource not found</STRONG></P>
> Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.<p>Check
> the URL and try again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b>
> http://127.0.0.1/Zope/test</p>

Running Zope this way isn't an area of great expertise for me... but it
seems pretty clear that you're asking for something that isn't there. Or
isn't where you're looking for it, anyway.

I say that because you're getting back a Zope-style error message. 
Throwing up a "not found" error message is correct behavior when Zope
can't find the object you request.

If this:

ZPublisher.Zope('')

returns the "Quick Start" page (or whatever root index you defined) then
you can surmise that the connection to Zope is working.  Any other
problems you encounter probably have something to do with your request.

> 
> It seems that it is still performing all traversals
> with (http://127.0.0.1/Zope) as the root with no port
> defined. Is this because of how the request is
> simulated? Suggestions?

The port is irrelevant, as you're not connecting through the web.  It's
responding *as though* it's running on 80, but there isn't actually any
port involved.

You might also find this howto helpful:
http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/TheDebuggerIsYourFriend

HTH,

Dylan




From mattficken@mail.com  Mon Mar 31 00:37:02 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:37:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20030331003702.88682.qmail@mail.com>

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From mattficken@mail.com  Mon Mar 31 00:40:39 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Create top-level folder
Message-ID: <20030331004039.91977.qmail@mail.com>

Part of my product's job is to create a top-level folder. I can have it do that only when, from the management interface's "add function", I add it to the root directory. I would like it to always be able to go to the root directory, regardless of where its added. 
In order to do this, I need to access the root directory object, but I don't know how. What function can I call to return the root directory object? Would 'getPhysicalRoot' do what I want? if yes, what do I call it on?
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From mattficken@mail.com  Mon Mar 31 00:45:02 2003
From: mattficken@mail.com (Matt Ficken)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:45:02 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Create top-level folder
Message-ID: <20030331004502.95468.qmail@mail.com>

Part of my product's job is to create a top-level folder. Currently, I can only get it to create the folder in what ever folder the product is added in. I would like to be able to get access to the root directory object but don't know how.

How do I access the root directory object? Would 'getPhysicalRoot' do that? If yes, how do I use it?
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From edward@kovarski.org  Mon Mar 31 04:20:04 2003
From: edward@kovarski.org (Edward Kovarski)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:20:04 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Fyi: Zope 2.6.1 on HP-UX 11.0/11.11 Requires GNU tar
Message-ID: <001f01c2f73c$cde01b70$108010ac@anga>

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HP-UX v11.00 or 11.11 (11i) also require the use of GNU tar for Zope.

=20

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From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 31 04:45:01 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 20:45:01 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Fyi: Zope 2.6.1 on HP-UX 11.0/11.11 Requires GNU tar
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D641@desi2>

This is also a problem on Solaris; this has been known for quite a while
(noted in http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Misc/InstallingZope.html), but
such mention doesn't include any other Unix using a non-GNU tar, though
doc/FAQ.txt (in Zope distributions) question #1 addresses this a bit more
generally.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Kovarski [mailto:edward@kovarski.org]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:20 PM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: [Zope] Fyi: Zope 2.6.1 on HP-UX 11.0/11.11 Requires GNU tar


Hi... You may want to update the Installation Instructions to reflect that
HP-UX v11.00 or 11.11 (11i) also require the use of GNU tar for Zope.
 
The bundled tar under HP-UX imposes a pathname limitation of about 100 chars
however it does /not/ complain when encountering a long pathname. It merely
cuts the pathname to the maximum and happily proceeds which causes a lot of
headaches when trying to get it going.
 
/e


From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 31 04:50:55 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 30 Mar 2003 20:50:55 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Create top-level folder
In-Reply-To: <20030331004502.95468.qmail@mail.com>
References: <20030331004502.95468.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <1049086255.21506.1071.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 16:45, Matt Ficken wrote:
> Part of my product's job is to create a top-level folder. Currently, I can only get it to create the folder in what ever folder the product is added in. I would like to be able to get access to the root directory object but don't know how.
> 
> How do I access the root directory object? Would 'getPhysicalRoot' do that? If yes, how do I use it?


First off, Zope-Dev is for the development *of* Zope, not *in* Zope.

As to your question, some discussion of the problem (and a couple
solutions) are here: http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1003151229

HTH,

Dylan



From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 31 04:57:10 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 06:57:10 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Create top-level folder
In-Reply-To: <20030331004502.95468.qmail@mail.com>
References: <20030331004502.95468.qmail@mail.com>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1049093830@[192.168.0.2]>

getPhysicalRoot() or restrictedTraverse("/") would do the job.

-aj

--On Sonntag, 30. M=E4rz 2003 19:45 Uhr -0500 Matt Ficken=20
<mattficken@mail.com> wrote:

> Part of my product's job is to create a top-level folder. Currently, I
> can only get it to create the folder in what ever folder the product is
> added in. I would like to be able to get access to the root directory
> object but don't know how.
>
> How do I access the root directory object? Would 'getPhysicalRoot' do
> that? If yes, how do I use it? --
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From florian.konnertz@web.de  Mon Mar 31 07:28:32 2003
From: florian.konnertz@web.de (Florian Konnertz)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:28:32 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Catalog: access index value in ZPT
Message-ID: <3E87EE20.3060007@web.de>

Hi all,

ZWiki, IssueTracker: I want to get all issues from the current folder 
but not the subfolder/subwiki (which has an own catalog and issuetracker).
AFAICS a catalog always catalogues the subfolders and i cannot configure 
it to not do this, is this right?
So i have to do it with query logic resp. filtering the results later.

My IssueTracker implementation is in ZPT, it's translated 1:1 from the 
dtml-version, so it does a query and loops over it at once:

<span tal:repeat="item python: blahblah and (Catalog(isIssue=1, blahbla)
and ... blah blah">

### condition for path should go here (?)
### table rows for the results

</span>   ### repeat loop


How can i show only issues (items) from the current folder? I thought 
about using the path index, so i added it to the metadate in Catalog 
cfg. and updated the Cat. Then i try to access the path from an item with

<span tal:replace="python:item.path"></span>
(print it for testing)

but that doesn't work. All other metadata can be accessed via 
"item.metadata", only path indizes not. Why?

Is there a better way to do that?


Cheers , TIA,
Florian



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From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Mon Mar 31 06:43:23 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:43:23 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Data.fs error on Pack
In-Reply-To: <3E84CE1E.5000306@jcameroncooper.com>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030328124705.00b15ed0@pop-server.twmi.rr.com> <3E84C67A.6070607@nipltd.com> <3E84CE1E.5000306@jcameroncooper.com>
Message-ID: <200303310843.23163.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Saturday 29 March 2003 00:35, J Cameron Cooper wrote:
> Zope will refuse to run as root, but must start as root to use port 80.

Under root:

	cd $WHERE_ZOPE_IS
	./start -u zope & 2>/dev/null

Also probably you want to define stupid log somewhere in the "start" script.
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From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Mon Mar 31 08:34:52 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:34:52 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZODB bug? (Surrogate instance '_p_oid')
Message-ID: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

Hello everybody.

Can somebody explain what this error means? I think this sounds like
a bug in ZODB somewhere... :(

Zope: 2.6.1
OS: Linux SuSE 8.0 Pro

==============================================
Traceback (innermost last):

    * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
    * Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit
    * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 261, in commit
    * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 392, in _commit_error

AttributeError: Surrogate instance has no attribute '_p_oid'
==============================================

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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Mon Mar 31 07:43:06 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:43:06 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Checking object's class
In-Reply-To: <15999.21570.135900.871442@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <200303240959.37195.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <15999.21570.135900.871442@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200303310943.06382.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

On Monday 24 March 2003 19:53, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-24 09:59 +0100:
>  > ...
>  >  - is it better to test for "object.meta_type"
>
> Drawback:
>
>   no inheritance check
>
>  > or "isinstance (object, class)"
>
> Drawback:
>
>   you usually need "object.aq_base".
>
>   It's more expensive than a simple "meta_type" check.

OK.
But is it possible to give the same meta_type to a base class and it's 
inherited ones (as long as I have other properties to distinguish instances 
of these classes) ??

Thanks,

  Thierry


From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 31 09:16:50 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:16:50 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Checking object's class
References: <200303240959.37195.thierry.florac@onf.fr> <15999.21570.135900.871442@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <200303310943.06382.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <3E880782.3080603@nipltd.com>

Thierry FLORAC wrote:
> 
> OK.
> But is it possible to give the same meta_type to a base class and it's 
> inherited ones (as long as I have other properties to distinguish instances 
> of these classes) ??

Yes, but it may not be a good idea...

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 31 09:24:10 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:24:10 +0100
Subject: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope] Hardware
 for Zope + ZEO)
References: <000201c2c9b7$8360c2f0$9002c9d3@wankyu>	<016b01c2f3d5$ac36c790$0200a8c0@wankyu> <16004.55855.183927.22724@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <3E88093A.9090202@nipltd.com>

Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Wankyu Choi wrote at 2003-3-27 05:24 +0900:
>  > ....
>  > I need two sort keys: one to sort the threads (parents) and the
>  > other to sort their replies (childs). ZCatalog supports a single sort index,
> 
> I have code to extend ZCatalog's sorting capability to arbitrary many
> sort keys.
> 
> Maybe, we want something like this in the Zope core?

Yes PLEASE!

What does the code look like?

Anything I can do to help?

cheers,

Chris



From chrisw@nipltd.com  Mon Mar 31 09:28:29 2003
From: chrisw@nipltd.com (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:28:29 +0100
Subject: [Zope] ZODB bug? (Surrogate instance '_p_oid')
References: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <3E880A3D.1000204@nipltd.com>

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:
> Hello everybody.
> 
> Can somebody explain what this error means? I think this sounds like
> a bug in ZODB somewhere... :(

Dunno what a 'Surrogate' is, but that doesn't sound like part of ZODB and it is 
likely where your error lies.

What Zope version/Products/etc are you using?

Chris



From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Mon Mar 31 09:46:24 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:46:24 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZODB bug? (Surrogate instance '_p_oid')
In-Reply-To: <3E880A3D.1000204@nipltd.com>
References: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <3E880A3D.1000204@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <200303311146.24167.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Monday 31 March 2003 11:28, Chris Withers wrote:
> Dunno what a 'Surrogate' is, but that doesn't sound like part of ZODB and
> it is likely where your error lies.
>
> What Zope version/Products/etc are you using?

This appears I don't know why. The only thing I know it is from ZODB 
(probably). After error appears, Zope does not responds anymore untill I 
restart it.

As I mentioned, I use Zope 2.6.1. Products? Absolutely nothing special. 
Standard.

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

Any sufficiently advanced Operating System is indistinguishable from Linux.
		-- Jim Dennis



From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Mon Mar 31 09:54:36 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:54:36 +0200
Subject: [Zope] TM jar missing?
Message-ID: <200303311154.36151.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

I found this in my stupid.log. anybody know WHAT it this? I think it seems like 
ZODB transaction problems:

=======================================================================
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
------
=======================================================================

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

To stay awake all night adds a day to your life.
		-- Stilgar (Frank Herbert _Children_of_Dune_)



From johanc@easypublisher.com  Mon Mar 31 10:20:09 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:20:09 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Referring to internal Metal Macros (in the same ZPT)?
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331101333.01f581b0@mail.torped.se>

Hi,
Is there an easier way to refer to a macro defined in same ZPT that
calls the macro:

<html xmlns:tal="..." xmlns:metal="..."><body>

<div metal:define-macro="test">Test</div>

<div metal:define-macro="default">
         <div metal:use-macro="here/<this_zpt's_id>/macros/test"/>
</div>

</body></html>

What I would whan it:

<div metal:define-macro="default">
         <div metal:use-macro="macros/test"/>
</div>

where macros would be the local macros.
In this way I can rename the ZPT without breaking the functionality
of the template.

Best Regards,
Johan Carlsson


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From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Mon Mar 31 10:28:12 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:28:12 +0200
Subject: Explanation (Re: [Zope] TM jar missing?)
In-Reply-To: <200303311154.36151.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200303311154.36151.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <200303311228.12920.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

Sorry, I forgot to send an explanation what it is.
"<Procedure at ora_i18n>" is a Stored Procedure from the Oracle, using 
ZOracleDA product (latest). But I can see the similar records for _any_ 
object I created.

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

Microsoft is not the answer.
Microsoft is the question.
"No" or "Linux" is the answer.



From wankyu@neoqst.com  Mon Mar 31 10:47:09 2003
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:47:09 +0900
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects takes ages
Message-ID: <001e01c2f772$e11e7fc0$0200a8c0@wankyu>

Dear All,

May I have your expertise on this? ;-)=20

As much as I'm new to Zope/Python, ZCatalog (Catalog) internals vex me =
even
more.

I have a message board product called NeoBoard, some of you might know.
Recently I rewrote its core to have a built-in catalog for indexing =
articles
and displaying them automatically sorted on thread keys. It showed quite =
a
boost in performance. Previous versions without the built-in catalog =
used to
ramrod all article objects into/out of memory whenever they need to =
display
them. What a waste of memory and CPU power as Toby Dickenson suggested.=20

Here's what I did to solve this problem:

- Rewrote the parent class of the NeoBoard/NeoBoardArticle ( article
container/article objects themselves ), NeoPortalElementContainer to =
inherit
ZCatalog. Basically NeoPortalElementContainer automatically natural
sorts/numbers objects (elements) when they're added to the container:
page_1, page_2, ... etc.=20
- NeoBoardArticle looks toward NeoBoard when the catalog methods defined =
in
NeoPortalElementContaier are called. So NeoBoard's catalog methods are
always used no matter whereever you are in the path hierarchy.
- When you call a NeoBoard instance, it calls ZCatalog's =
searchResults(),
which returns brains objects. A threaded (expanded) look does  require a
step further: NeoBoard sorts a pageful of threads and their replies =
before
returning them; it doesn't care about the other threads that are not
displayed in the current request.=20

Performance? Not so fast as SQL-backed PHP version ( displaying a =
pageful of
threads takes only a fraction of a second ), but not bad.

Okay, I partially solved one problem ( wasting memory/horsepower, etc - =
I'm
still not satisfied with the performance, though ) but created another =
set
of problems while so doing.  I could display 5,000 threads ( about =
20,000
article obects incuding all replies to the threads) in less than a =
second (
it takes a bit more when you load the board for the first time. ) The
problems are...

- It takes ages when cataloging even a small number of articles. 18 =
seconds
for cataloging 50 or so article objects with so little to index? Is it
normal? Can't imagine recataloging 20,000 objects.  For example, if you =
move
a thread from one NeoBoard instance to another, you have to uncatalog =
the
thread including  all its replies in NeoBoad A and catalog them in =
NeoBoard
B: cataloging a single article object takes more than 1 second. Don't =
think
it's normal... Or is it?

- When I attempt to uncatalog an object that's not been catalogged, Zope
spews out errors in the log. Can I supress the errors in code, which, in =
my
applications, are meaningless.=20

- Catalogs sometimes do get corrupted so recatalogging is required from =
time
to time. Is it also normal? All of my article objects are catalog-aware =
and
they catalog/uncatalog/recatalog themselves when getting added, deleted, =
or
modified using manage_afterAdd(), manage_beforeDelete() and CMF'ish =
_edit()
method. When a missing article (ghost catalog entry) causes a KeyError,
NeoBoard attempts to refresh the catalog: well, takes too much time. But
manually recreating its catalog is not an alternative. Any ideas why =
this'd
happen? Any tips on maintaining catalog integrity?

- Here're the indexes NeoBoard uses:


    security.declarePublic( 'enumerateIndexes' )
    def enumerateIndexes( self ):
        """
            Return a list of ( index_name, type ) pairs for the initial
            index set.
        """=20
        return ( ('Title', 'TextIndex')
               , ('meta_type', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('getSortKey', 'FieldIndex')       =20
               , ('getThreadSortKey', 'FieldIndex')       =20
               , ('isThreadParent', 'FieldIndex')                      =20
               , ('creation_date', 'FieldIndex')       =20
               , ('Creator', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('CreatorEmail', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('getArticleCategory', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('getNeoPortalContentSearchText', 'TextIndex')
               , ('getInlineCommentsSearchText', 'TextIndex')            =
  =20
               , ('getInlineCommentCreators', 'TextIndex')               =

               , ('getAttachmentsSearchText', 'TextIndex')
               , ('getNeoPortalReadCount', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('getNeoPortalNumContentRatings', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('getNeoPortalElementNumber', 'FieldIndex')
               , ('isTempNeoBoardArticle', 'FieldIndex')
               )

I came to know that 'TextIndex' is deprecated. Have yet to try =
ZCTextIndex
or TextIndexNG ( the latter seems like an overkill). Found 'TopicIndex' =
very
interesting. Would they make much difference? Especially, I was suprised =
to
find the simple 'Title' index takes almost one full second when applied =
on
an object: that getIndex( name ) call alone in the Catalog.py takes this
much. So I suspect it's not about Catalog but I'm doing something very
stupid in setting up this built-in catalog.

ONE FINAL QUESTION: I strongly suspect I wouldn'[t be able to get any =
faster
using ZCatalog. At least not as fast as using RDBMS. I'm thinking... =
"Not
fast enough, not flexible enough since I can't perform sopnisticated =
queries
on ZCatalog and stuff... why not revert to MySQL?" Got any thoughts on =
this?
How does ZCatalog compare to a reasonably fast RDBMS?

NeoBoard (1.1) will be taken out of its beta phases when I solve this
catalogging weirdness, and might start working on 1.2 using MySQL or =
SAPDB
as backend. Hope somebody can persuave me out of this path... just the
thought of having to rewrite the core to use SQL makes me
shudder....arrrrrrgh...

Any help, hints or comments would be much appreciated.  I do need to =
move on
with this project :-( It's been almost a year now...ouch. Weeks became
months; months became a whole year... whew.

Thanks in advance.

---------------------------------------------------------------
  Wankyu Choi
  CEO/President
  NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
  http://www.zoper.net
  http://www.neoboard.net
---------------------------------------------------------------  =20



From johanc@easypublisher.com  Mon Mar 31 10:48:44 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:48:44 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Quering ZPT macros?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331101333.01f581b0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331104546.01fc3cf0@mail.torped.se>

Hi again,
Is there anyway to query a ZPT about its macros.

I want to implement one macro per meta_type, but I'm not
going to implement all meta_types so I would like to query
the template if the macro is available.
I guess I could use a try-statement to trap any non existing macros,
but I would rather query it more explicitly.

Best Regards,
Johan CArlsson



From ziofunk@tiscali.it  Mon Mar 31 10:57:35 2003
From: ziofunk@tiscali.it (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:57:35 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331125422.00aa2848@10.10.10.101>

Hi.

Does anybody know where I can found information about the performance of 
Zope as a web server?
I mean, information like: number of documents that Zope can store and 
serve, max. access rate, max. users rate, hardware requirements, etc.

Thank you in advance.



From mbetti@inf.unitn.it  Mon Mar 31 11:09:19 2003
From: mbetti@inf.unitn.it (Maurizio Betti)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:09:19 +0200
Subject: [Zope] OT: Available job on Zope in English Area?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030331130037.02463b20@pop.inf.unitn.it>

Hy all,

I'm looking for some job in Zope and OpenFlow programming for this summer 
(May-August) in a English language area land (USA, England, Ireland) to 
learn more English language. I've developed my degree thesis on Zope and 
OpenFlow.

thanks in advance, Maurizio Betti

ps: please if you want contact me directly on mbetti@inf.unitn.it or 
m.betti@arsweb.it 



From stefan@epy.co.at  Mon Mar 31 11:21:54 2003
From: stefan@epy.co.at (Stefan H. Holek)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:21:54 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Quering ZPT macros?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331104546.01fc3cf0@mail.torped.se>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331104546.01fc3cf0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <2194091282.1049116914@[172.16.8.4]>

Something like template.macros.keys() should do what you want.

Stefan


--On Montag, 31. M=E4rz 2003 10:48 +0000 "Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher]"=20
<johanc@easypublisher.com> wrote:

> Is there anyway to query a ZPT about its macros.

--
Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field.
/Erik Naggum/


From johanc@easypublisher.com  Mon Mar 31 11:35:35 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:35:35 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Quering ZPT macros?
In-Reply-To: <2194091282.1049116914@[172.16.8.4]>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331104546.01fc3cf0@mail.torped.se>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030331104546.01fc3cf0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331113224.01fb1c30@mail.torped.se>

At 13:21 2003-03-31 +0200, Stefan H. Holek said:
>Something like template.macros.keys() should do what you want.
>Stefan

Thanks Stefan,
I found out that macros is a regular mapping object.
So the TALES: python:<path>.macros.has_key(file.meta_type)  will do the 
trick :-)

Johan



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From hazmat@objectrealms.net  Mon Mar 31 12:01:38 2003
From: hazmat@objectrealms.net (hazmat)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:01:38 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Python/Zope bindings for Aspell
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303271529040.19214-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303271529040.19214-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>
Message-ID: <3E882E22.9060302@objectrealms.net>

sf.net/projects/collective

cvs CMFSpellCheck has wrappers (pipe based) for aspell and ispell

Dennis Allison wrote:

>I'm looking for a Python wrapper to Aspell.  Because the document to be
>spell checked is structured, I'd prefer an interface similar to the C++
>Asepell API.  Using Aspell in the pipe mode is a possibility, but direct 
>access to the Aspell API would lead to a cleaner system.
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>(Related lists - 
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>  
>



From hazmat@objectrealms.net  Mon Mar 31 12:10:24 2003
From: hazmat@objectrealms.net (hazmat)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:10:24 +0200
Subject: [Zope] TM jar missing?
In-Reply-To: <200303311154.36151.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200303311154.36151.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <3E883030.5080308@objectrealms.net>

its harmless..  just adding overhead and log blather..

zope 2.6.0 wants 'jars' aka as datamanagers to have a sort method.. most 
of the rdb connections/stored procs use a subclass
of lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/TM.py for transaction integration as a 
datamanager, which in 2.6.0 didn't implement the sortKey method.. which 
is fixed in 2.6.1.  so an upgrade should fix this. another possiblity is 
that the DCOracle(2) implements its txn integration directly and doesn't 
supply the requested method,  in which case filing a bug report against 
it with its maintainer would be the right thing to do..

just fyi, here is the implementatio of TM jar sortKey method in 2.6.1

    *def* *sortKey*(self, *ignored):
        *""" The sortKey method is used for recent ZODB compatibility which
            needs to have a known commit order for lock acquisition.  Most
            DA's talking to RDBMS systems do not care about commit order, so
            return the constant 1
        """*
        *return* 1


hth,

-haz



Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:

>I found this in my stupid.log. anybody know WHAT it this? I think it seems like 
>ZODB transaction problems:
>
>=======================================================================
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>2003-03-25T09:21:05 PROBLEM(100) TM jar missing sortKey() method: <Procedure at ora_i18n>
>------
>=======================================================================
>
>  
>



From hazmat@objectrealms.net  Mon Mar 31 12:11:53 2003
From: hazmat@objectrealms.net (hazmat)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:11:53 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Fwd: [Zope-DB] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20030330184050.581.1@wonderland.1049042122.fake>
References: <20030330184050.581.1@wonderland.1049042122.fake>
Message-ID: <3E883089.1020706@objectrealms.net>

Object File System Product

would be my educated guess ;-)

-cheers

haz

Charlie Clark wrote:

>This was posted to Zope-DB by mistake.
>
>Charlie
>
>On 2003-03-30 at 06:46:52 [+0200], Santoshi Reddy <sreddy@cise.ufl.edu> 
>wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>I would like to create folders in zope.We have to use the following 
>>python code
>>
>>context.manage_addProduct['OFSP'].manage_addFile(id,
>>                                         title="", file=comments)
>>
>>
>>Does Anyone know what OFSP is?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>S.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>



From hazmat@objectrealms.net  Mon Mar 31 12:14:15 2003
From: hazmat@objectrealms.net (hazmat)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:14:15 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZODB bug? (Surrogate instance '_p_oid')
In-Reply-To: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <3E883117.7060300@objectrealms.net>

hmm... surrogate is used by the rdb txn integration..

what version of zope and what version of which da are you using?

-haz

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote:

>Hello everybody.
>
>Can somebody explain what this error means? I think this sounds like
>a bug in ZODB somewhere... :(
>
>Zope: 2.6.1
>OS: Linux SuSE 8.0 Pro
>
>==============================================
>Traceback (innermost last):
>
>    * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
>    * Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit
>    * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 261, in commit
>    * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 392, in _commit_error
>
>AttributeError: Surrogate instance has no attribute '_p_oid'
>==============================================
>
>  
>



From tillea@rki.de  Mon Mar 31 12:27:18 2003
From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:27:18 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Zope] MailHost under Zope 2.6.1
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311419530.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>

Hello,

I just used

     mailhost=getattr(context, context.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
     mailhost.send('Hello', 'you@something.org', 'me@anything.org', 'Test')

to send mails under Zope 2.5.x.  Once I updated to Zope 2.6.1 Mails via
this method are quite strange.  They have no subject in the Mail header
but the body part contains:

      Subject: Test
      To: you@something.org
      From: me@anything.org
      Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:24:00 +0200

      Hello

This is really strange and so I searched the web and found

      http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/zope-List/1412602

Unfortunately that is not the solution but a hint to search the list
archive for the problem.  I have to admit that I failed to find the
solution the sender was refering to.

Any hints?

Kind regards

        Andreas.

--
Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.
John F. Kennedy




From jens@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 12:42:37 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:42:37 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Referring to internal Metal Macros (in the same ZPT)?
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331101333.01f581b0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <41057F94-6376-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

have you tried <div metal:use-macro="template/macros/test" /> ?

jens


On Monday, Mar 31, 2003, at 05:20 US/Eastern, Johan Carlsson 
[EasyPublisher] wrote:

>
> Hi,
> Is there an easier way to refer to a macro defined in same ZPT that
> calls the macro:
>
> <html xmlns:tal="..." xmlns:metal="..."><body>
>
> <div metal:define-macro="test">Test</div>
>
> <div metal:define-macro="default">
>         <div metal:use-macro="here/<this_zpt's_id>/macros/test"/>
> </div>
>
> </body></html>
>
> What I would whan it:
>
> <div metal:define-macro="default">
>         <div metal:use-macro="macros/test"/>
> </div>
>
> where macros would be the local macros.
> In this way I can rename the ZPT without breaking the functionality
> of the template.
>
> Best Regards,
> Johan Carlsson
>



From lennart@regebro.nu  Mon Mar 31 12:45:39 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:45:39 +0200
Subject: [Zope] MailHost under Zope 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311419530.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311419530.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
Message-ID: <3E883873.4050202@regebro.nu>

Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I just used
> 
>      mailhost=getattr(context, context.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
>      mailhost.send('Hello', 'you@something.org', 'me@anything.org', 'Test')
> 
> to send mails under Zope 2.5.x.  Once I updated to Zope 2.6.1 Mails via
> this method are quite strange.  They have no subject in the Mail header
> but the body part contains:
> 
>       Subject: Test
>       To: you@something.org
>       From: me@anything.org
>       Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:24:00 +0200
> 
>       Hello

I'm not able to reproduce this problem.

What is the actual body text you are trying to use?



From tillea@rki.de  Mon Mar 31 13:20:56 2003
From: tillea@rki.de (Andreas Tille)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:20:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Zope] Re: MailHost under Zope 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <3E883873.4050202@regebro.nu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311511581.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Lennart Regebro wrote:

> >      mailhost=getattr(context, context.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
> >      mailhost.send('Hello', 'you@something.org', 'me@anything.org', 'Test')
> >
> > to send mails under Zope 2.5.x.  Once I updated to Zope 2.6.1 Mails via
> > this method are quite strange.  They have no subject in the Mail header
> > but the body part contains:
> >
> >       Subject: Test
> >       To: you@something.org
> >       From: me@anything.org
> >       Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:24:00 +0200
> >
> >       Hello
>
> I'm not able to reproduce this problem.
>
> What is the actual body text you are trying to use?
Regarding to Zope-Book, Appendix B:

    send(messageText, mto=None, mfrom=None, subject=None, encode=None)

The body which should be sended is just 'Hello'.
BTW, it's not really clear why the mto parameter is optional ...

Kind regards

        Andreas.

--
Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.
John F. Kennedy



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Mon Mar 31 13:30:31 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:30:31 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331125422.00aa2848@10.10.10.101>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331125422.00aa2848@10.10.10.101>
Message-ID: <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

This is the latest, it will give you some of those numbers.
http://zopeedge.com/benchmarks

As for how many items in the ZODB? Most would just say it is size not
number of items. Most people try to keep their ZODB below 2GB due to OS
restrictions, but some have gone beyond.

Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you will
need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).

BZ


> Hi.
>
> Does anybody know where I can found information about the performance of
> Zope as a web server?
> I mean, information like: number of documents that Zope can store and
> serve, max. access rate, max. users rate, hardware requirements, etc.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com  Mon Mar 31 13:24:38 2003
From: tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:24:38 +0100
Subject: [Zope] Zope backup
In-Reply-To: <16006.41834.770128.189810@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D62C@desi2> <16006.41834.770128.189810@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200303311424.38648.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com>

On Sunday 30 March 2003 8:57 am, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> sean.upton@uniontrib.com wrote at 2003-3-28 14:18 -0800:
>  > Copying a FileStorage while transactions are being appended to the end
>  > of it potentially means that the copy completes with before the
>  > transaction commit is totally flushed to the file, so there is always
>  > the possibility that your backup is going to need to have half-written
>  > transactions manually truncated to be used on either a replica or a new
>  > Zope/ZSS instance; this isn't that big of a deal ....
>
> When I understand this right, then this is done automatically
> when the "FileStorage" is opened.

I think that is correct - Ive never needed this *manual* process after a 
correct backup/restore cycle of FileStorage

This truncating process might be automatic, however it is slow because it 
effectively needs to regenerate data.fs.index. It is impossible for a backup 
of a live FileStorage to atomically backup this file.

The process of recreating the index needs to read the entire data.fs file into 
memory from start to end. This process would be needed in between any 
attempted incremental backup or incremental replication cycle. In comparison 
DirectoryStorage is close to maximally efficient at incremental backups and 
replications.

DirectoryStorage's efficiency with incremental operations comes at a cost; it 
is slower than FileStorage to make or restore a full backup. Creating all 
those tiny files in a filesystem is equivalent to recreating data.fs.index, 
but slower.

(provided data.fs.index fits in memory of course. FileStorage is terminally 
slow once you push it into swap.)

-- 
Toby Dickenson
http://www.geminidataloggers.com/people/tdickenson


From sebastian@queisser-net.de  Mon Mar 31 13:26:22 2003
From: sebastian@queisser-net.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Quei=DFer?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:26:22 +0200
Subject: [Zope] XHTML and Zope
Message-ID: <3E8841FE.5000403@queisser-net.de>

Hi!

I've got a XHTML-Document with MathML. This document is static and 
should only be served by zope. The problem is, that in older versions 
than 2.6.0 it is working, but since this version the document my browser 
(mozilla) starts loading the document, shows the title and the stops 
without error. This is strange, because the document is valid and it 
works with an older version of zope. Is this a bug or did I do something 
wrong?

Thanks
Sebastian



From jens@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 13:38:56 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:38:56 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you 
> will
> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).

that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see if 
i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.

jens



From johanc@easypublisher.com  Mon Mar 31 13:34:39 2003
From: johanc@easypublisher.com (Johan Carlsson [EasyPublisher])
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:34:39 +0000
Subject: [Zope] Referring to internal Metal Macros (in the same
 ZPT)?
In-Reply-To: <41057F94-6376-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331101333.01f581b0@mail.torped.se>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331131208.028b7740@mail.torped.se>

At 07:42 2003-03-31 -0500, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>have you tried <div metal:use-macro="template/macros/test" /> ?

Yes, I have. template seams to always refer to the initial template,
not to the current template (containing the macro).



Regards,
Johan Carlsson



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From bz@bwanazulia.com  Mon Mar 31 14:00:00 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:00:00 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
References: <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <40681.199.67.138.20.1049119200.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

Probably just rumors floating around.

It would be REALLY great if CBS New York could be a Zope case study.

REALLY! :)

BZ

>> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
>> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
>> will
>> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
>> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
>
> that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see if
> i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
>
> jens
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>



From jens@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 14:01:35 2003
From: jens@zope.com (Jens Vagelpohl)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:01:35 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <40681.199.67.138.20.1049119200.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
Message-ID: <48C72CE0-6381-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>

since i am not the one who decides about marketing materials and i am 
really bad at writing marketing fluff i would keep it to the tech 
aspects only.

jens


On Monday, Mar 31, 2003, at 09:00 US/Eastern, BZ wrote:

> Probably just rumors floating around.
>
> It would be REALLY great if CBS New York could be a Zope case study.
>
> REALLY! :)
>
> BZ
>
>>> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
>>> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
>>> will
>>> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
>>> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
>>
>> that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see 
>> if
>> i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
>>
>> jens



From jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no  Mon Mar 31 14:25:43 2003
From: jorgelr@stud.ntnu.no (Jorg =?iso-8859-1?B?RS4gUvhkc2r4?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:25:43 +0200
Subject: [Zope] CorruptedDataError
Message-ID: <20030331142543.GD3120@stud.ntnu.no>

I am running a number of squishdot sites for a university class, and I have
problems. The this is that someone has probably done something wrong in
their blog, and when I try to access the squishdot site I get the following
error: [yes, I know zope is installed in a less than perfect directory, but
the story is long]

2003-03-31T16:11:51 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for
'\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\xd9\xec'
Traceback (innermost last):
  File
/home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py,
line 509, in setstate
  File
/home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py,
line 650, in load
    (Object: /home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/var/Data.fs)
  File
/home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py,
line 630, in _load
    (Object: /home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/var/Data.fs)
CorruptedDataError: 

I have been in touch with squishdot support, but they said it was not
likely something squshdot related. Does anyone have any idea what I can do?
I cannot access the folder containing the squshdots either - the same error
pops up.

regards
Jorg Rødsjø


From casey@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 14:41:50 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:41:50 -0500
Subject: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope] Hardware for Zope + ZEO)
In-Reply-To: <16004.55855.183927.22724@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
References: <000201c2c9b7$8360c2f0$9002c9d3@wankyu> <016b01c2f3d5$ac36c790$0200a8c0@wankyu> <16004.55855.183927.22724@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <200303310941.50316.casey@zope.com>

I plan to work some more on the sort functionality for 2.7. This function=
ality=20
was a consideration so the patch is welcome. Feel free to stick it in the=
=20
collector.

-Casey

On Friday 28 March 2003 06:26 pm, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Wankyu Choi wrote at 2003-3-27 05:24 +0900:
>  > ....
>  > I need two sort keys: one to sort the threads (parents) and the
>  > other to sort their replies (childs). ZCatalog supports a single sor=
t=20
index,
>=20
> I have code to extend ZCatalog's sorting capability to arbitrary many
> sort keys.
>=20
> Maybe, we want something like this in the Zope core?
>=20
>=20
> Dieter




From ziofunk@tiscali.it  Mon Mar 31 14:57:38 2003
From: ziofunk@tiscali.it (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:57:38 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <40681.199.67.138.20.1049119200.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net
 >
References: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>

First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will 
work when the system will be deployed.
We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe 
expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb 
average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use Zope 
alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
Thank you.



> >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
> >> will
> >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
> >
> > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see if
> > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
> >
> > jens
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > (Related lists -
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> >
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>(Related lists -
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From bz@bwanazulia.com  Mon Mar 31 15:12:33 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:12:33 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
References: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com><64174.199.67.138.20.10
 49117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net><1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939E
 FEBC@zope.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <53690.199.67.138.20.1049123553.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

I would use ExtFile for the PDFs, Apache in front and ZEO for failure.

1 GHz + Pentiums, 1 GB of RAM (Zope/Python love RAM,) SCSI drives in RAID.

BZ

> First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will
> work when the system will be deployed.
> We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe
> expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb
> average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use
> Zope
> alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
> Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
> Thank you.
>
>
>
>> >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
>> >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
>> >> will
>> >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
>> >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
>> >
>> > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see
>> if
>> > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
>> >
>> > jens
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> > (Related lists -
>> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>> >
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>>**   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>>(Related lists -
>>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>



From ziofunk@tiscali.it  Mon Mar 31 15:09:53 2003
From: ziofunk@tiscali.it (Fabio Rolando)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:09:53 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <53690.199.67.138.20.1049123553.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net
 >
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
 <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <64174.199.67.138.20.10 49117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939E FEBC@zope.com>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331170532.0385eb08@pop.tiscalinet.it>

...forgive me if I bother you.
what would Apache do better if I have no files served outside of Zope? I 
thought that I'd need apache only if I have files to serve that are not 
"passing" through Zope.Am I wrong?
Fabio

For
At 17:12 31-03-03 Monday, you wrote:
>I would use ExtFile for the PDFs, Apache in front and ZEO for failure.
>
>1 GHz + Pentiums, 1 GB of RAM (Zope/Python love RAM,) SCSI drives in RAID.
>
>BZ
>
> > First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> > I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will
> > work when the system will be deployed.
> > We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe
> > expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb
> > average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use
> > Zope
> > alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
> > Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> >> >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> >> >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
> >> >> will
> >> >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> >> >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
> >> >
> >> > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see
> >> if
> >> > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
> >> >
> >> > jens
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
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From chrism@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 15:19:40 2003
From: chrism@zope.com (Chris McDonough)
Date: 31 Mar 2003 10:19:40 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
References: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <1049123980.1418.13.camel@james>

Hi Fabio,

You can expect Zope on a typical commodity Intel box under Linux to
serve between 15 - 50 requests per second, depending on how
processor-intensive the page rendering is.

So back-of-the-napkin calculation comes out that to support 16 requests
per second (1000 request/min distributed evenly over the minute),
depending on how well-written your application is, you may be able to
get away with using one Zope app server.  Of course, this is a lot to
assume.

The best way to do capacity planning like this is to start with the
question "how long is the longest acceptable time that a request to my
application should take?"  Then estimate what "peak load" will be.  An
example of "peak load": "60 simultaneous requests, half hitting the home
page, half rendering a news item".  Then work towards testing your
application under this load, figuring out what its performance
characteristics are.  If requests to the site under this load meet your
"longest acceptable time" requirements, you're done.  If they don't,
you'll either need to make your application faster, add hardware, or
change your configuration.

In any case, you'll probably want to use a cache server of some kind
(Apache via mod_proxy or Squid) to help serve some of that content, at
least the static content which is highly-cacheable.  This provides the
"biggest bang for the buck" against changing your application or adding
appservers (it's typically cheaper and more effective if you can get
away with it).  For sites where almost all page views need to be
personalized (via authentication or other conditional page rendering),
however, it's difficult to get any return from caching save for images
and whatnot.

One fast way to do some load testing before going in to production is to
use Apache's "ab" tool to get an idea of how fast various pages render. 
Another is to use a tool named OpenSTA to model a more complicated set
of system loads.

- C


On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 09:57, Fabio Rolando wrote:
> First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will 
> work when the system will be deployed.
> We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe 
> expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb 
> average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use Zope 
> alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
> Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> > >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> > >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
> > >> will
> > >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> > >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
> > >
> > > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see if
> > > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
> > >
> > > jens
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > (Related lists -
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> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > >
> >
> >
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> 
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From casey@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 15:28:53 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:28:53 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects takes ages
In-Reply-To: <001e01c2f772$e11e7fc0$0200a8c0@wankyu>
References: <001e01c2f772$e11e7fc0$0200a8c0@wankyu>
Message-ID: <200303311028.53947.casey@zope.com>

On Monday 31 March 2003 05:47 am, Wankyu Choi wrote:
> Dear All,
>=20
> May I have your expertise on this? ;-)=20
>=20
> As much as I'm new to Zope/Python, ZCatalog (Catalog) internals vex me =
even
> more.
>=20
> I have a message board product called NeoBoard, some of you might know.
> Recently I rewrote its core to have a built-in catalog for indexing art=
icles
> and displaying them automatically sorted on thread keys. It showed quit=
e a
> boost in performance. Previous versions without the built-in catalog us=
ed to
> ramrod all article objects into/out of memory whenever they need to dis=
play
> them. What a waste of memory and CPU power as Toby Dickenson suggested.=
=20
>=20
> Here's what I did to solve this problem:
>=20
> - Rewrote the parent class of the NeoBoard/NeoBoardArticle ( article
> container/article objects themselves ), NeoPortalElementContainer to in=
herit
> ZCatalog. Basically NeoPortalElementContainer automatically natural
> sorts/numbers objects (elements) when they're added to the container:
> page_1, page_2, ... etc.=20

Subclassing ZCatalog can be a maintenance headache. I did it for=20
DocumentLibrary and regretted it.

> - NeoBoardArticle looks toward NeoBoard when the catalog methods define=
d in
> NeoPortalElementContaier are called. So NeoBoard's catalog methods are
> always used no matter whereever you are in the path hierarchy.
> - When you call a NeoBoard instance, it calls ZCatalog's searchResults(=
),
> which returns brains objects. A threaded (expanded) look does  require =
a
> step further: NeoBoard sorts a pageful of threads and their replies bef=
ore
> returning them; it doesn't care about the other threads that are not
> displayed in the current request.=20
>=20
> Performance? Not so fast as SQL-backed PHP version ( displaying a pagef=
ul of
> threads takes only a fraction of a second ), but not bad.

Is this Zope 2.6.1? What do the queries look like?
=20
> Okay, I partially solved one problem ( wasting memory/horsepower, etc -=
 I'm
> still not satisfied with the performance, though ) but created another =
set
> of problems while so doing.  I could display 5,000 threads ( about 20,0=
00
> article obects incuding all replies to the threads) in less than a seco=
nd (
> it takes a bit more when you load the board for the first time. ) The
> problems are...

I would be interested in using this data as a benchmark for improvements =
in=20
2.7...
=20
> - It takes ages when cataloging even a small number of articles. 18 sec=
onds
> for cataloging 50 or so article objects with so little to index? Is it
> normal? Can't imagine recataloging 20,000 objects.  For example, if you=
 move
> a thread from one NeoBoard instance to another, you have to uncatalog t=
he
> thread including  all its replies in NeoBoad A and catalog them in NeoB=
oard
> B: cataloging a single article object takes more than 1 second. Don't t=
hink
> it's normal... Or is it?

Profiling may be necessary to pin this down. Likely culprets are textinde=
xes,=20
but its hard to say. Are you sure you are doing a minimum of work (i.e., =
only=20
indexing each message once)?
=20
> - When I attempt to uncatalog an object that's not been catalogged, Zop=
e
> spews out errors in the log. Can I supress the errors in code, which, i=
n my
> applications, are meaningless.=20

These errors are harmless. It might be better to check if they are catalo=
ged=20
first before uncataloging them.
=20
> - Catalogs sometimes do get corrupted so recatalogging is required from=
 time
> to time. Is it also normal? All of my article objects are catalog-aware=
 and
> they catalog/uncatalog/recatalog themselves when getting added, deleted=
, or
> modified using manage_afterAdd(), manage_beforeDelete() and CMF'ish _ed=
it()
> method. When a missing article (ghost catalog entry) causes a KeyError,
> NeoBoard attempts to refresh the catalog: well, takes too much time. Bu=
t
> manually recreating its catalog is not an alternative. Any ideas why th=
is'd
> happen? Any tips on maintaining catalog integrity?

Although there are have historically been BTree bugs that can cause KeyEr=
rors,=20
they have slowly been stamped out. It would be helpful to find a test cas=
e=20
that causes these key errors. Do these keyerrors happen at search time?

> - Here're the indexes NeoBoard uses:
>=20
>=20
>     security.declarePublic( 'enumerateIndexes' )
>     def enumerateIndexes( self ):
>         """
>             Return a list of ( index_name, type ) pairs for the initial
>             index set.
>         """=20
>         return ( ('Title', 'TextIndex')
>                , ('meta_type', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('getSortKey', 'FieldIndex')       =20
>                , ('getThreadSortKey', 'FieldIndex')       =20
>                , ('isThreadParent', 'FieldIndex')                      =
=20
>                , ('creation_date', 'FieldIndex')       =20
>                , ('Creator', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('CreatorEmail', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('getArticleCategory', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('getNeoPortalContentSearchText', 'TextIndex')
>                , ('getInlineCommentsSearchText', 'TextIndex')          =
    =20
>                , ('getInlineCommentCreators', 'TextIndex')             =
 =20
>                , ('getAttachmentsSearchText', 'TextIndex')
>                , ('getNeoPortalReadCount', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('getNeoPortalNumContentRatings', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('getNeoPortalElementNumber', 'FieldIndex')
>                , ('isTempNeoBoardArticle', 'FieldIndex')
>                )

I'm concerned that the CommentsSearchText and AttachmentsSearchText are=20
arbitrarily expensive. Maybe as a test try removing one index at a time t=
o=20
see if any one is causing a noticable performance decrease. Start with th=
e=20
TextIndexes.
=20
> I came to know that 'TextIndex' is deprecated. Have yet to try ZCTextIn=
dex
> or TextIndexNG ( the latter seems like an overkill). Found 'TopicIndex'=
 very
> interesting. Would they make much difference? Especially, I was suprise=
d to
> find the simple 'Title' index takes almost one full second when applied=
 on
> an object: that getIndex( name ) call alone in the Catalog.py takes thi=
s
> much. So I suspect it's not about Catalog but I'm doing something very
> stupid in setting up this built-in catalog.

That delay may be exposing an index bug. getIndex just does a single=20
dictionary lookup and wraps it, so I'm not sure why this should take a lo=
ng=20
time, unless the TextIndex object is taking a *long* time to load from th=
e=20
database. But its main ZODB record should not be very big.

I would definitely Try ZCTextIndex, just because its searching works so m=
uch=20
better.
=20
> ONE FINAL QUESTION: I strongly suspect I wouldn'[t be able to get any f=
aster
> using ZCatalog. At least not as fast as using RDBMS. I'm thinking... "N=
ot
> fast enough, not flexible enough since I can't perform sopnisticated qu=
eries
> on ZCatalog and stuff... why not revert to MySQL?" Got any thoughts on =
this?
> How does ZCatalog compare to a reasonably fast RDBMS?

One general suggestion: What is your ZODB cache set to? The default of 40=
0 is=20
*way* too small for heavy ZCatalog use. I would try upping it to 2000, ma=
ybe=20
higher (depending on RAM). Use the activity monitor to see how much readi=
ng=20
happens when you query and index. Upping the cache size can dramatically=20
reduce reading from disk. Going from 400 to 2000 gave me roughly a factor=
 of=20
10 improvement in one test I had querying ZCTextIndex. It also can=20
dramatically help index time since more of the lexicon and index BTrees c=
an=20
remain in memory.
=20
> NeoBoard (1.1) will be taken out of its beta phases when I solve this
> catalogging weirdness, and might start working on 1.2 using MySQL or SA=
PDB
> as backend. Hope somebody can persuave me out of this path... just the
> thought of having to rewrite the core to use SQL makes me
> shudder....arrrrrrgh...
>=20
> Any help, hints or comments would be much appreciated.  I do need to mo=
ve on
> with this project :-( It's been almost a year now...ouch. Weeks became
> months; months became a whole year... whew.

Yup, been there ;^)

-Casey


From gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it  Mon Mar 31 23:29:08 2003
From: gilles.lavaux@esrin.esa.it (Gilles)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:29:08 -0600
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
References: <41256CFA.0052639D.00@esrinmail2.esrin.esa.int>
Message-ID: <002501c2f7dd$541c7760$fce3ccc1@esrin.esa.it>

Hello

> alone (..., no Apache)?
No: don't do this, use Apache in from of zope, or your system will halt very
often; don't ask me why...

Gilles
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fabio Rolando" <ziofunk@tiscali.it>
To: <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope performance documentation


>
>
>
>
> First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will
> work when the system will be deployed.
> We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe
> expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb
> average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use
Zope
> alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
> Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> > >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> > >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
> > >> will
> > >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> > >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
> > >
> > > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see
if
> > > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
> > >
> > > jens
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> > > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> > > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> > > (Related lists -
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
> > >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> > >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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>
>
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>



From bz@bwanazulia.com  Mon Mar 31 15:42:53 2003
From: bz@bwanazulia.com (BZ)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:42:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331170532.0385eb08@pop.tiscalinet.it>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it><1E8D7A62-637E-11
 D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com><64174.199.67.138.20.10
 49117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net><1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939E
 FEBC@zope.com><5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030331170532.0385eb08@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <38805.199.67.138.20.1049125373.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>

I meant that Apache could get you some caching and or serving up very
static things like PDFs or images.

I personally put all of my stuff in the ZODB and it is about 500MB. I
serve up around 30 hits a minute which is really nothing. I use Zope RAM
caching for more dynamic stuff (like side navigation etc). There is a lot
of headroom in my server for more growth.. I would probably not have to
move off of this server till 300-500 hits a minute.

BZ

> ...forgive me if I bother you.
> what would Apache do better if I have no files served outside of Zope? I
> thought that I'd need apache only if I have files to serve that are not
> "passing" through Zope.Am I wrong?
> Fabio
>
> For
> At 17:12 31-03-03 Monday, you wrote:
>>I would use ExtFile for the PDFs, Apache in front and ZEO for failure.
>>
>>1 GHz + Pentiums, 1 GB of RAM (Zope/Python love RAM,) SCSI drives in
>> RAID.
>>
>>BZ
>>
>> > First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
>> > I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it
>> will
>> > work when the system will be deployed.
>> > We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe
>> > expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with
>> 200 Kb
>> > average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use
>> > Zope
>> > alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
>> > Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
>> >> >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com
>> you
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
>> >> >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
>> >> >
>> >> > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to
>> see
>> >> if
>> >> > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
>> >> >
>> >> > jens
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>> >> > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
>> >> > **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
>> >> > (Related lists -
>> >> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>> >> >  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>_______________________________________________
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
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>
>
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From Didier.GEORGIEFF@agriculture.gouv.fr  Mon Mar 31 15:32:50 2003
From: Didier.GEORGIEFF@agriculture.gouv.fr (Didier Georgieff)
Date: 31 Mar 2003 17:32:50 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Using CPS - utilisateurs CPS ?
Message-ID: <1049124774.3180.52.camel*Didier.GEORGIEFF@agriculture.gouv.fr>

Hello, Bonjour,

- I'm doing a submission for the e-europe awards and i'd like to have a
(brief) plug about what organization are actually using CPS.
- Je suis en train de soumettre un dossier aux e-europe awards, et
j'aimerai avoir un bref appercu des structures utilisatrices
actuellement de CPS.


- You can email me privately, and i'll submarize if there is some
interest about it.
- Vous pouvez me mailer directement et je ferai un compte rendu si cela
interesse quelqu'un.

- Thanks a lot in advance.
- Avec mes remerciements.

-- 
Didier Georgieff
D=E9l=E9gation Interservice pour le D=E9veloppement du SIT67
t=E9l : 03.88.76.78.35 - fax : 03.88.76.78.34
email : didier.georgieff@agriculture.gouv.fr

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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 31 15:28:46 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 31 Mar 2003 07:28:46 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
References: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <1049124525.21511.1088.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 06:57, Fabio Rolando wrote:
> First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will 
> work when the system will be deployed.
> We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe 
> expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb 
> average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use Zope 
> alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?

Sure, you can run Zope on a bare wire... but why would you specify such
a thing at the outset?  In a decent-sized system, you'll want to let
different tools handle the tasks that they are designed to do well and
leave the secondary features alone.  Zope's web server is good, but it
will probably never be maintained as aggressively as Apache.  

I would strongly recommend running Apache in front of any non-trivial
Zope app that is connected to the Internet.  Apache is really good at
what *it* provides, and while there is *some* overlap with Zope, they
are mostly different tools.

And if those 5000 PDF's are *static* files, you should consider serving
them directly from Apache anyway.  There's almost no good reason to
serve discrete static content out of Zope.

HTH,

Dylan




From lennart@regebro.nu  Mon Mar 31 16:11:10 2003
From: lennart@regebro.nu (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:11:10 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Re: MailHost under Zope 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311511581.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311511581.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
Message-ID: <3E88689E.9040503@regebro.nu>

Andreas Tille wrote:
> Regarding to Zope-Book, Appendix B:
> 
>     send(messageText, mto=None, mfrom=None, subject=None, encode=None)
> 
> The body which should be sended is just 'Hello'.

Well, it works for me...

> BTW, it's not really clear why the mto parameter is optional ...

Well, because you can put it into the message instead.
The send() method will complain if you don't have an mto, cc or bcc 
header either in the message or the parameters. The parameters will by 
the way always override anything set in the message.




From volker.wend@efgbsh.de  Mon Mar 31 16:20:44 2003
From: volker.wend@efgbsh.de (volker.wend@efgbsh.de)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:20:44 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZCTextIndex Lexicon
Message-ID: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D9B@kommserver1>

He folks,

I somehow have a screwed up Zope Installation... I cannot create a
ZCTextIndex Lexicon in a subfolder but I can create the lexikon in other
folders on the same level. 

What did I do ?

Thanks,
Volker


From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 31 16:22:10 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:22:10 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZCTextIndex Lexicon
In-Reply-To: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D9B@kommserver1>
References: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D9B@kommserver1>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1049134930@[192.168.0.2]>


--On Montag, 31. M=E4rz 2003 18:20 Uhr +0200 volker.wend@efgbsh.de wrote:

> He folks,
>
> I somehow have a screwed up Zope Installation... I cannot create a
> ZCTextIndex Lexicon in a subfolder but I can create the lexikon in other
> folders on the same level.
>
> What did I do ?
>

I noticed the same problem during a ZCatalog workshop where I was
running a presenation using Zope from the head. I told the participants
to create a lexicion in the parent folder of the ZCatalog. It worked for me
but it failed on all installations running Zope 2.6.X.

-aj


From dbasch@yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 16:31:04 2003
From: dbasch@yahoo.com (Derek Basch)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:31:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <1049068965.21510.1057.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <20030331163104.39726.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>

> Running Zope this way isn't an area of great
> expertise for me...

This seems to be no ones area of expertise. Did I pick
a weird way to debug or something?

> If this:
> 
> ZPublisher.Zope('')
> 
> returns the "Quick Start" page (or whatever root
> index you defined) then
> you can surmise that the connection to Zope is
> working.  Any other
> problems you encounter probably have something to do
> with your request.

Here is the traceback from my root object request:

>>> ZPublisher.Zope('')
Status: 200 OK
X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python
(www.python.org)
Content-Length: 0

I have tried this on 2 separate Zope installs and both
fail to return the "Zope Quick Start" page. So, it
looks like there is a fundamental flaw in how my
requests are being processed. I can't believe that no
one has ever run into this problem before?
Suggestions?

> You might also find this howto helpful:
>http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/TheDebuggerIsYourFriend

Thanks for the suggestion but that is the page that
got me started down this highway of confusion!

Thanks for the help,
Derek Basch


--- Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 14:52, Derek Basch wrote:
> > So, I tried what you suggested:
> > 
> > ZPublisher.Zope('/test/index_html')
> > 
> > and here is the traceback:
> > 
> > <P><STRONG>Resource not found</STRONG></P>
> > Sorry, the requested resource does not
> exist.<p>Check
> > the URL and try again.</p><p><b>Resource:</b>
> > http://127.0.0.1/Zope/test</p>
> 
> Running Zope this way isn't an area of great
> expertise for me... but it
> seems pretty clear that you're asking for something
> that isn't there. Or
> isn't where you're looking for it, anyway.
> 
> I say that because you're getting back a Zope-style
> error message. 
> Throwing up a "not found" error message is correct
> behavior when Zope
> can't find the object you request.
> 
> If this:
> 
> ZPublisher.Zope('')
> 
> returns the "Quick Start" page (or whatever root
> index you defined) then
> you can surmise that the connection to Zope is
> working.  Any other
> problems you encounter probably have something to do
> with your request.
> 
> > 
> > It seems that it is still performing all
> traversals
> > with (http://127.0.0.1/Zope) as the root with no
> port
> > defined. Is this because of how the request is
> > simulated? Suggestions?
> 
> The port is irrelevant, as you're not connecting
> through the web.  It's
> responding *as though* it's running on 80, but there
> isn't actually any
> port involved.
> 
> You might also find this howto helpful:
>
http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/TheDebuggerIsYourFriend
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Dylan
> 
> 


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From gilles@pilotsystems.net  Mon Mar 31 16:48:25 2003
From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:48:25 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
Message-ID: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence>

Sorry, this is perhaps some OT, but perhaps some of you made this...

I'm trying to detect (server side) Mozilla+Midas compatible browsers.
Since this feature (Midas) is new, finding "Gecko" in the user agent
signature doesn't seem to be enough.

Any clue ? Does it need a Javascript helper ?

Thanks in advance

--Gilles




From gfischer@techgroupinc.com  Mon Mar 31 16:39:14 2003
From: gfischer@techgroupinc.com (Greg Fischer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:39:14 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Help with tree tag and localfs
Message-ID: <6CD05A5ECD1B91468DADCD35B8AF1A0A042D90@tgserver2.techgroupinc.com>

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contents.  When I use it normally it doesn't work:
=20
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From thierry.florac@onf.fr  Mon Mar 31 15:39:32 2003
From: thierry.florac@onf.fr (Thierry FLORAC)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:39:32 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Making transactions un-undoable ?
Message-ID: <200303311739.32119.thierry.florac@onf.fr>

Hi,

I have a Zope site which interacts with a relational database (PostgreSQL).
My obvious problem is that when some transactions are undone, concerned Zope 
objects are not synchronized anymore with the database, as SQL commands can't 
be undone.

My question is : is there any way to make a specific transaction not undoable 
(without using a specific storage which may prohibit undo) ??

Thanks,

  Thierry
-- 
  Linux every day, keeps Dr Watson away...
  http://gpc.sourceforge.net -- http://www.ulthar.net


From Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com>  Mon Mar 31 16:42:16 2003
From: Andreas Jung <andreas@andreas-jung.com> (Andreas Jung)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:42:16 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
In-Reply-To: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence>
References: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <2147483647.1049136136@[192.168.0.2]>

There tons of javascripts available that check for the different browser=20
flavours.
Google will be your friend.

-aj

--On Montag, 31. M=E4rz 2003 18:48 Uhr +0200 Gilles Lenfant=20
<gilles@pilotsystems.net> wrote:

> Sorry, this is perhaps some OT, but perhaps some of you made this...
>
> I'm trying to detect (server side) Mozilla+Midas compatible browsers.
> Since this feature (Midas) is new, finding "Gecko" in the user agent
> signature doesn't seem to be enough.
>
> Any clue ? Does it need a Javascript helper ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --Gilles
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us  Mon Mar 31 16:47:06 2003
From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
In-Reply-To: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence>
References: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence>
Message-ID: <200303311147.06829.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>

It would be nice to have a script used to identify many types of browsers 
(plus what features they support). I developed one (at home) that pulls the 
value from REQUEST.HTTP_USER_AGENT and guesses which one made the request, 
and returns a special code (ex. 'MSIE', 'Mozilla', 'Konqueror') which you can 
use in a decision tree from there. Would it be useful for the REQUEST object 
to have an API for this? Perhaps I'll play around a bit with it. Trouble is, 
like currancy converters, how do we keep the list up-to-date? An XML-RPC 
call? For features like Midas...good question. Not being real familiar with 
it, how do you invocate it in a page? It might not be possible to detect 
until it is released in the core with say, Mozilla 1.5, and you can know by 
the version number (unless it's disabled!)

Good luck,

Eron

On Monday March 31 2003 11:48 am, Gilles Lenfant wrote:
> Sorry, this is perhaps some OT, but perhaps some of you made this...
>
> I'm trying to detect (server side) Mozilla+Midas compatible browsers.
> Since this feature (Midas) is new, finding "Gecko" in the user agent
> signature doesn't seem to be enough.
>
> Any clue ? Does it need a Javascript helper ?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --Gilles
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Eron Lloyd
Technology Coordinator
Lancaster County Library
elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us
Phone: 717-239-2116
Fax: 717-394-3083

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From allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU  Mon Mar 31 16:59:03 2003
From: allison@sumeru.stanford.EDU (Dennis Allison)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 08:59:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Python/Zope bindings for Aspell
In-Reply-To: <3E882E22.9060302@objectrealms.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10303310852060.23266-100000@sumeru.stanford.EDU>

Thanks.  I looked on the collective and didn't find CMFSpellCheck. 

What I need to build has two components, a spell checking component and a
forms based editing component.  Making this work needs fairly close
control of the spellchecking itself.  I'm a bit wary of the pipes
interface in this environment, expecially since the text being
spellchecked is XML.


On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, hazmat wrote:

> sf.net/projects/collective
> 
> cvs CMFSpellCheck has wrappers (pipe based) for aspell and ispell
> 
> Dennis Allison wrote:
> 
> >I'm looking for a Python wrapper to Aspell.  Because the document to be
> >spell checked is structured, I'd prefer an interface similar to the C++
> >Asepell API.  Using Aspell in the pipe mode is a possibility, but direct 
> >access to the Aspell API would lead to a cleaner system.
> >



From wankyu@neoqst.com  Mon Mar 31 17:02:29 2003
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 02:02:29 +0900
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects takes ages
In-Reply-To: <200303311028.53947.casey@zope.com>
Message-ID: <000701c2f7a7$5079e4c0$0200a8c0@wankyu>

So glad to catch your attention :-)

>Subclassing ZCatalog can be a maintenance headache. I did it for=20
DocumentLibrary and regretted it.

Can you expound on this? In fact, I did just the opposite. First, I =
tried
"self._np_catalog =3D NeoPortalCatalog()" where NeoPortalCatalog is a =
subclass
of ZCatalog. Thought better ( or worse should I say :-) of it, and =
inherited
directly from NeoPortalCatalog. Thought it would be easier in terms of
maintenance.

>> Performance? Not so fast as SQL-backed PHP version ( displaying a=20
>> pageful of threads takes only a fraction of a second ), but not bad.

> Is this Zope 2.6.1? What do the queries look like?

Zope 2.6.1 with Python 2.2. Heard Python 2.2 works just fine with Zope =
2.6.1
and has had no obvious problems yet.

Here's the code block that returns the query results and sorts a portion =
of
them if necessary ( a non-threaded look doesn't require this sort. )

security.declarePrivate( '_getArticles' )               =20
    def _getArticles( self
                    , top=3DNone
                    , expand_all=3D0
                    , skey=3DNone
                    , reverse=3D0
                    , default_reverse=3D0
                    , search_fields=3D''
                    , search_keywords=3D''
                    , b_start=3D0
                    , limit=3DNone ):
        """
            Return a complete list of brains objects from the Catalog
        """
                  =20
        if search_fields and search_keywords:

            index_map =3D {'title': 'Title'
                    , 'creator':'Creator'
                    , 'creator_email':'CreatorEmail'
                    , 'body':'getNeoPortalContentSearchText'
                    , 'category':'getArticleCategory'
                    , 'comments':'getInlineCommentsSearchText'
                    , 'comment_creators':'getInlineCommentCreators'
                    , 'attachments': 'getAttachmentsSearchText'}   =20
               =20
            new_indexes =3D []
            for index in search_fields.keys():
                new_indexes.append( index_map[index] )

            results =3D self.search( indexes=3Dnew_indexes,
keywords=3Dsearch_keywords.split( ' ' )  )

        else:
            # threads are automatically reverse-sorted on sort_keys

            reverse =3D int( reverse )
            result_limit =3D None
            b_start =3D int( b_start )
            if limit is not None:
                limit =3D int( limit )
                result_limit =3D b_start + limit

            if skey:
                if skey=3D=3D'np_read_count': skey =3D =
'getNeoPortalReadCount'
                elif skey=3D=3D'np_num_ratings': skey =3D
'getNeoPortalNumContentRatings'
                else: skey =3D 'creation_date'
                sort_order =3D ''               =20
                if reverse: sort_order =3D 'reverse'
                results =3D self.searchResults(
meta_type=3DNeoBoardArticle.meta_type, isTempNeoBoardArticle=3D0, =
sort_on=3Dskey,
sort_order=3Dsort_order, limit =3D result_limit )
               =20
            else:
                expand_all =3D int( expand_all )
                current_thread =3D None
                if expand_all:
                    results =3D self.searchResults(
meta_type=3DNeoBoardArticle.meta_type, isTempNeoBoardArticle=3D0,
sort_on=3D'getSortKey', limit =3D result_limit )       =20
                else:
                    results =3D self.searchResults(
meta_type=3DNeoBoardArticle.meta_type, isTempNeoBoardArticle=3D0,
isThreadParent=3D( not expand_all ), sort_on=3D'getSortKey', limit =3D
result_limit )                   =20
                    # also pull all the replies to the current article
                    if top is not None and top.meta_type =3D=3D
NeoBoardArticle.meta_type:
                        top =3D top.getThreadParent()
                        sort_key =3D top.getSortKey()
                        current_thread =3D self.searchResults(
meta_type=3DNeoBoardArticle.meta_type, isTempNeoBoardArticle=3D0,
getSortKey=3Dsort_key, isThreadParent=3D0, sort_on=3D'getThreadSortKey' =
)
                       =20
                if limit is not None:
               =20
                    # sort only the meaningful portion of the results
specified by 'limit'
   =20
                    first_half =3D []
                    second_half =3D []
                   =20
                    first_half =3D results[: b_start ]
                                   =20
                    middle =3D results[ b_start : ( b_start + limit ) ]
                   =20
                    if not expand_all and current_thread is not None:=20
                        middle[:] =3D middle[:] + current_thread[:]
                   =20
                    second_half =3D results[ b_start + limit : ]
                   =20
                    middle =3D self.sortArticleThreads( middle )
                               =20
                    results =3D first_half + middle + second_half
           =20
        notices =3D self.getNotices()
        if len( notices ) > 0: results =3D notices[:] + results[:]
        return results
           =20
    security.declarePublic( 'sortAritlceThreads' )               =20
    def sortArticleThreads( self, brains ):
        """
            Sort a list of brains=20
        """

        import operator=20

        temp_list =3D map( lambda x: ( getattr( x.getObject(), =
'_sort_key' ),
getattr( x.getObject(), '_thread_sort_key' ), x ), brains )
              =20
        temp_list.sort()
        brains[:] =3D map( operator.getitem, temp_list, ( -1, ) * len(
temp_list ) )
         =20
        return brains

- isTempNeoBoardArticle: NeoBoard does what CMF does. When a user posts =
an
article, it first creates a temp article and examines it. If =
unacceptable,
deletes it. The method tells if the article is a temporary one or not.
- isThreadParent: tells if the article is the top-most one in the =
thread.
- expand_all: Boolean value to tell if we need a threaded-look.
- getSortKey: returns thread sorting key. It's the inversed article =
number:
article 50's sort key  becomes -50 when added to the board for automatic
reverse-sorting. ( Tried creation_date once, but it turned out to be a
disaster when you do import/export.)
- result_limit: calculated on the basis of the current batch.

If you want to take a look at it in context, I've got a viewCVS set up =
here:
http://cvs.zoper.net:3333/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/NeoBoard/NeoBoard.py

And you can see the board in action here:
http://www.zoper.net/Boards/qa/view

I learned while reading docs on ZCatalog that I'd get better results by
adding meta data to brain objects. Will remove that expensive sorting =
method
soon.

>> another set of problems while so doing.  I could display 5,000 =
threads=20
>> ( about 20,000 article obects incuding all replies to the threads) in =

>> less than a second ( it takes a bit more when you load the board for=20
>> the first time. ) The problems are...

> I would be interested in using this data as a benchmark for =
improvements
in=20
2.7...

Took me a whole day to generate these articles; had fun with them for =
about
a week and lost them last night when the board's catalog went crazy with
missing keys; I had to remove the board and the data went with it :-(

On a different note. Creating an article object doesn't require that =
much
computation power. Just a bunch of init values for its properties. But
instantiating an article in a for loop, for example, takes more than a
second and it gets worse as the loop goes on. Is it because ZODB's
transaction/version support? Normally, how long should it take to =
generate
20,000 not-so-heavy objects? Taking more than an hour seems not right =
with
enough horsepower. When creating those test data, I had to take a long =
nap
:-(
=20
>> cataloging a single article object takes more than 1 second. Don't =
think
>> it's normal... Or is it?

>Profiling may be necessary to pin this down. Likely culprets are
textindexes,=20
>but its hard to say. Are you sure you are doing a minimum of work =
(i.e.,
only=20
>indexing each message once)?

I used to re-render the contents of articles when copying/moving them to
another instance of NeoBoard, but removed the code since it took too =
long.
It doesn't do anything now except cataloging/uncatalogging moved/copied
articles. Excerpts from NeoBoardArticle's manage_afterAdd():

if item is self and item.isThreadParent():       =20
            item._setSortKey()
            item._setThreadSortKey()
            neoboard =3D item.getNeoBoard()
            neoboard.addToNeoPortalElementContainerCatalog( item )
           =20
            articles =3D [ obj for id, obj in item.ZopeFind( item,
obj_metatypes =3D [ NeoBoardArticle.meta_type, ], search_sub=3D1 ) ]

            for article in articles:
                article._setSortKey()
                article._setThreadSortKey()
                neoboard.addToNeoPortalElementContainerCatalog( article =
)

I had to rename the indexObject method to
'addToNeoPortalElementContainerCatalog()' to prevent confusion with CMF.
Nothing fancy there; an exact copy of ZCatalog's.

>> - When I attempt to uncatalog an object that's not been catalogged,=20
>> Zope spews out errors in the log. Can I supress the errors in code,=20
>> which, in my applications, are meaningless.

> These errors are harmless. It might be better to check if they are
cataloged=20
> first before uncataloging them.

Guess I was stupid in thinking I'd save some time by skipping the check =
;-)
=20
> Although there are have historically been BTree bugs that can cause
KeyErrors,=20
> they have slowly been stamped out. It would be helpful to find a test =
case

> that causes these key errors. Do these keyerrors happen at search =
time?

No, I meant a key error in 'mybrain.getObject()', that is, a ghost entry =
in
the Catalog without the corresponding object. Guess it happens after a
massive set of additions or deletions. Can't pinpoint a case. Fast =
reloads
sometimes do generate ZODB conflict errors. If you reload while =
reindexing
everything with heavy disk I/O, you usually get these ZODB conflicts. =
Maybe
I should do some work on conflict resolutions?

> I'm concerned that the CommentsSearchText and AttachmentsSearchText =
are=20
> arbitrarily expensive. Maybe as a test try removing one index at a =
time to

> see if any one is causing a noticable performance decrease. Start with =
the

> TextIndexes.

Actually not. My test article objects didn't have any inline comments, =
for
example. I tried a single index after removing all the other indexes,
getNeoPortalSearchText, which returns title + body text. No obvious
improvements in performance. The funny thing is the test articles didn't
have much body: just a couple of words ( 'test artice' ).

> That delay may be exposing an index bug. getIndex just does a single=20
> dictionary lookup and wraps it, so I'm not sure why this should take a
long=20
> time, unless the TextIndex object is taking a *long* time to load from =
the

> database. But its main ZODB record should not be very big.

I was wrong. I looked into the Catalog.py more closely and it was not =
the
getIndex() call that was taking too long, but each index was. For =
example,
'Title' is a textindex and 'creation_date' is a DateIndex. Why would a
TextIndex take that long to index an article with a simple title 'test'? =
The
DateIndex is also painfully slow.=20

> I would definitely Try ZCTextIndex, just because its searching works =
so
much better.

Will try :-)

> One general suggestion: What is your ZODB cache set to?=20

I'm running these tests both on my desktop Linux box and on a set of
enterprise servers.

Desktop: Pentium 4, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest errata applied, =
512M
RAM, cache set to 8,000, FileStorage

Enterprise servers:=20

- ZEO Storage Server: dual Xeon P4, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest =
errata
applied, 4G RAM, 430G SCSI HDDs with RAID 5, DirectoryStorage on =
ReiserFS
with noatime on
- ZEO Client: dual P3 tualatin, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest errata
applied, 2G RAM with ZODB cache set to 20,000.

Both my desktop and the ZEO client show the same symptoms. The ZEO =
servers
render CMF/Plone + NeoBoard pages in an average of 0.3 ~ 0.5 second, so =
I
don't think there's any hardware/cache problems.

>> Any help, hints or comments would be much appreciated.  I do need to=20
>> move on with this project :-( It's been almost a year now...ouch.=20
>> Weeks became months; months became a whole year... whew.

> Yup, been there ;^)

Been there too many times with other tools. Just hoped this time would =
be
different with Zope :-)=20

Thanks for your help.

---------------------------------------------------------------
  Wankyu Choi
  CEO/President
  NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
  http://www.zoper.net
  http://www.neoboard.net
---------------------------------------------------------------  =20



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 31 17:09:26 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:09:26 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Help with tree tag and localfs
In-Reply-To: <6CD05A5ECD1B91468DADCD35B8AF1A0A042D90@tgserver2.techgroupinc.com>
References: <6CD05A5ECD1B91468DADCD35B8AF1A0A042D90@tgserver2.techgroupinc.com>
Message-ID: <3E887646.3070102@neurobs.com>

In my case:

<dtml-let root="pres_docs_storage">
  <dtml-tree name=root branches_expr="filter_tree_nodes()" nowrap single>
    <dtml-var "pres_docs_get_url( getId(),hasChildNodes(), 
_['tree-item-url'], _['tree-item-expanded'])">
  </dtml-tree>
</dtml-let>

where pres_docs_storage is the LocalFS instance.

filter_tree_nodes:

obs = context.objectValues()
for ob in obs:
    if ob.getId() == 'index.html':
        obs.remove(ob)  #not a good idea.. I have since modified this one

return obs

pres_docs_get_url:

#get URL (item_id, children obtained by hasChildNodes())
import string

item_ext_list = item_id.split('.')
item_name = item_ext_list[0][2:]
item_name = item_name.replace('_',' ')

root_url = container.REQUEST.BASE0
html = ''

if int(children) != 0:
    if not expanded:
        html = '<img 
src=\''+context.images.absolute_url()+'/help_book_closed_icon\'>&nbsp;<a 
href=\'http://www.neuro-bs.com/pres_docs/html/'+item_url+'\' 
target=\'content\' 
class=\'help_menu_folder\'>'+string.capwords(item_name)+'</a>'
    else:
        html = '<img 
src=\''+context.images.absolute_url()+'/help_book_open_icon\'>&nbsp;<a 
href=\'http://www.neuro-bs.com/pres_docs/html/'+item_url+'\' 
target=\'content\' 
class=\'help_menu_folder\'>'+string.capwords(item_name)+'</a>'

else:
    html = '<img 
src=\''+context.images.absolute_url()+'/help_page_icon\'>&nbsp;<a 
href=\'http://www.neuro-bs.com/pres_docs/html/'+item_url+'\' 
target=\'content\' 
class=\'help_menu_item\'>'+string.capwords(item_name)+'</a>'
 
return html


The sample can be viewed at:
http://nbs.neuro-bs.com/presentation/docs

HTH
AM


Greg Fischer wrote:

> 
>I installed LocalFS, which is pretty cool because I need to add large files for users, but I need to use the dtml-tree tag to list the folders contents.  When I use it normally it doesn't work:
> 
><dtml-tree LocalFSFolder branches="objectValues" sort="id">
>    <dtml-var id>
></dtml-tree>
> 
>I have tried several different options, and I have searched the internet and newsgroups, but I haven't found much.  Any help is appreciated.
> 
>Thanks!
> 
>Greg
>sysman@techgroupinc.com
> 
> 
>
>  
>

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==================================================================
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 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From pw_lists@slinkp.com  Mon Mar 31 17:09:22 2003
From: pw_lists@slinkp.com (Paul Winkler)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:09:22 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331170532.0385eb08@pop.tiscalinet.it>
References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it> <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net> <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it> <5.2.0.9.0.20030331170532.0385eb08@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <20030331170922.GA27948@slinkp.com>

On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 05:09:53PM +0200, Fabio Rolando wrote:
> ...forgive me if I bother you.
> what would Apache do better if I have no files served outside of Zope? I 
> thought that I'd need apache only if I have files to serve that are not 
> "passing" through Zope.Am I wrong?

apache or squid in front of zope gives you some additional protection against
DOS attacks and the like. Zserver alone might not be robust enough for
the level of traffic you anticipate.

another thing to note when specc'ing hardware: SMP does not help you with
zope (or with python in general). Don't waste your money on multiple CPUs
- *unless* your OS gives you the ability to bind a process to a particular
CPU. In that case, you can run ZEO (on the same machine or another)
and run one zope process per CPU.

I'd also consider using DirectoryStorage. You're looking at starting with
1 GB of data at least, and it gets a bit awkward to do backups of a single
GB-sized file.

--PW


> Fabio
> 
> For
> At 17:12 31-03-03 Monday, you wrote:
> >I would use ExtFile for the PDFs, Apache in front and ZEO for failure.
> >
> >1 GHz + Pentiums, 1 GB of RAM (Zope/Python love RAM,) SCSI drives in RAID.
> >
> >BZ
> >
> >> First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> >> I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will
> >> work when the system will be deployed.
> >> We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe
> >> expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 
> >Kb
> >> average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use
> >> Zope
> >> alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
> >> Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> >>> >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
> >>> >> will
> >>> >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> >>> >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
> >>> >
> >>> > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see
> >>> if
> >>> > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
> >>> >
> >>> > jens
> >>> >
> >>> >
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From tino@wildenhain.de  Mon Mar 31 17:30:39 2003
From: tino@wildenhain.de (Tino Wildenhain)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 19:30:39 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
References: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence> <200303311147.06829.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>
Message-ID: <3E887B3F.9050700@wildenhain.de>

Hi,

detecting a special user-agent incarnation is usually a waste of time.
Instead of trying to detect one of 1423124982739 browsers with different
capabilities by their most of the time faked user-agent string,
one should focus to silently fall back and check only availability
of special attributes in the DOM.

IF you want to use a special DOM object, just look wether it is
defined and choose your action based on this.

This way you silently support all browsers which try to be the same
instead of making an endless growing list.

I personally HATE sites which tell me I would have an unsuported
browser only because their sucking scripts fail.

Pretty please stop this sillyness!

user-agent string is only ment informative and is by no way
relieable!

There exist several techniques to fall-back with CSS and
fall back with scripts. You should also provide usefull information
if scripting is disabled.

Regards
Tino Wildenhain


Eron Lloyd wrote:
> It would be nice to have a script used to identify many types of browsers 
> (plus what features they support). I developed one (at home) that pulls the 
> value from REQUEST.HTTP_USER_AGENT and guesses which one made the request, 
> and returns a special code (ex. 'MSIE', 'Mozilla', 'Konqueror') which you can 
> use in a decision tree from there. Would it be useful for the REQUEST object 
> to have an API for this? Perhaps I'll play around a bit with it. Trouble is, 
> like currancy converters, how do we keep the list up-to-date? An XML-RPC 
> call? For features like Midas...good question. Not being real familiar with 
> it, how do you invocate it in a page? It might not be possible to detect 
> until it is released in the core with say, Mozilla 1.5, and you can know by 
> the version number (unless it's disabled!)



From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 31 17:36:43 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 31 Mar 2003 09:36:43 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <20030331163104.39726.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030331163104.39726.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1049132203.21509.1100.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 08:31, Derek Basch wrote:
> > Running Zope this way isn't an area of great
> > expertise for me...
> 
> This seems to be no ones area of expertise. Did I pick
> a weird way to debug or something?

Well... it doesn't appear to offer a lot of advantages over debugging
with a web client.  I may be missing something critical, but I find the
development cycle is much faster when debugging on a live instance...
particularly when what I'm debugging creates layouts or other visual
artifacts.


> Here is the traceback from my root object request:
> 
> >>> ZPublisher.Zope('')
> Status: 200 OK
> X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python
> (www.python.org)
> Content-Length: 0
> 
> I have tried this on 2 separate Zope installs and both
> fail to return the "Zope Quick Start" page. So, it
> looks like there is a fundamental flaw in how my
> requests are being processed. I can't believe that no
> one has ever run into this problem before?
> Suggestions?


Fire up Zope and connect with a local web browser?  

Testing is all well and good, but if you're having difficulty
troubleshooting your testing environment, it might be better to just
take an easier route.  Interacting with the ZMI may also provide some
insight... tough to say.

> 
> > You might also find this howto helpful:
> >http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/TheDebuggerIsYourFriend
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion but that is the page that
> got me started down this highway of confusion!

Oh... well, maybe the debugger isn't *your* friend after all... :-)

Dylan



From list_subscriber@neurobs.com  Mon Mar 31 17:05:51 2003
From: list_subscriber@neurobs.com (AM)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:05:51 -0800
Subject: [Zope] MailHost under Zope 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311419530.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.43.0303311419530.8552-100000@wr-linux02.rki.ivbb.bund.de>
Message-ID: <3E88756F.6080008@neurobs.com>

I had a problem exactly like this under pretty much the same config. 
However my problem was that I had a ':' character after the first word 
in my body.

Unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce your error.  Did you try 
specifying the parameter names. E.g. send(messageText='', mto=''....

HTH
AM

Andreas Tille wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I just used
>
>     mailhost=getattr(context, context.superValues('Mail Host')[0].id)
>     mailhost.send('Hello', 'you@something.org', 'me@anything.org', 'Test')
>
>to send mails under Zope 2.5.x.  Once I updated to Zope 2.6.1 Mails via
>this method are quite strange.  They have no subject in the Mail header
>but the body part contains:
>
>      Subject: Test
>      To: you@something.org
>      From: me@anything.org
>      Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:24:00 +0200
>
>      Hello
>
>This is really strange and so I searched the web and found
>
>      http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/zope-List/1412602
>
>Unfortunately that is not the solution but a hint to search the list
>archive for the problem.  I have to admit that I failed to find the
>solution the sender was refering to.
>
>Any hints?
>
>Kind regards
>
>        Andreas.
>
>--
>Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.
>John F. Kennedy
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
>http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
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>(Related lists - 
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> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
>
>
>  
>

-- 
==================================================================
 Aseem Mohanty							   
 Neurobehavioral Systems Inc, 828 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706 
 (R) 510 7696011 (M) 510 3014871 (O) 510 5279231		  	
==================================================================	
 "I saw `cout' being shifted "Hello world" times to the left and  
  stopped right there!!"                        -- Steve Gonedes  
================================================================== 




From elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us  Mon Mar 31 17:43:12 2003
From: elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us (Eron Lloyd)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:43:12 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
In-Reply-To: <3E887B3F.9050700@wildenhain.de>
References: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence> <200303311147.06829.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> <3E887B3F.9050700@wildenhain.de>
Message-ID: <200303311243.12445.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>

I agree, and wish that if browser developers *are* going to continue adding 
whiz-bang stuff to their products, that there is some way of introspecting 
this information, by expanding the user agent into some kind of standardized, 
meaningful code. And yes, browser blocking should be a no-no.

Eron

On Monday March 31 2003 12:30 pm, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> Hi,
>
> detecting a special user-agent incarnation is usually a waste of time.
> Instead of trying to detect one of 1423124982739 browsers with different
> capabilities by their most of the time faked user-agent string,
> one should focus to silently fall back and check only availability
> of special attributes in the DOM.
>
> IF you want to use a special DOM object, just look wether it is
> defined and choose your action based on this.
>
> This way you silently support all browsers which try to be the same
> instead of making an endless growing list.
>
> I personally HATE sites which tell me I would have an unsuported
> browser only because their sucking scripts fail.
>
> Pretty please stop this sillyness!
>
> user-agent string is only ment informative and is by no way
> relieable!
>
> There exist several techniques to fall-back with CSS and
> fall back with scripts. You should also provide usefull information
> if scripting is disabled.
>
> Regards
> Tino Wildenhain
>
> Eron Lloyd wrote:
> > It would be nice to have a script used to identify many types of browsers
> > (plus what features they support). I developed one (at home) that pulls
> > the value from REQUEST.HTTP_USER_AGENT and guesses which one made the
> > request, and returns a special code (ex. 'MSIE', 'Mozilla', 'Konqueror')
> > which you can use in a decision tree from there. Would it be useful for
> > the REQUEST object to have an API for this? Perhaps I'll play around a
> > bit with it. Trouble is, like currancy converters, how do we keep the
> > list up-to-date? An XML-RPC call? For features like Midas...good
> > question. Not being real familiar with it, how do you invocate it in a
> > page? It might not be possible to detect until it is released in the core
> > with say, Mozilla 1.5, and you can know by the version number (unless
> > it's disabled!)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope
> **   No cross posts or HTML encoding!  **
> (Related lists -
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce
>  http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
> ---
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Eron Lloyd
Technology Coordinator
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elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us
Phone: 717-239-2116
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From gilles@pilotsystems.net  Mon Mar 31 18:11:40 2003
From: gilles@pilotsystems.net (Gilles Lenfant)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:11:40 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
References: <01f801c2f7a5$58ff3520$0801a8c0@provence> <200303311147.06829.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us> <3E887B3F.9050700@wildenhain.de>
Message-ID: <035f01c2f7b0$fa5897d0$0801a8c0@provence>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tino Wildenhain" <tino@wildenhain.de>
To: "Eron Lloyd" <elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>
Cc: "Gilles Lenfant" <gilles@pilotsystems.net>; <zope@zope.org>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers


> Hi,
>
> detecting a special user-agent incarnation is usually a waste of time.
> Instead of trying to detect one of 1423124982739 browsers with different
> capabilities by their most of the time faked user-agent string,
> one should focus to silently fall back and check only availability
> of special attributes in the DOM.

Thanks, I'll try to do it this way.

>
> IF you want to use a special DOM object, just look wether it is
> defined and choose your action based on this.
>
> This way you silently support all browsers which try to be the same
> instead of making an endless growing list.
>
> I personally HATE sites which tell me I would have an unsuported
> browser only because their sucking scripts fail.

I usually hate this too, but I need this to (try to) extend the IEEditor to
give Mozilla+Midas users the ability to edit content with a WYSIWIG tool.
Other solution : an applet, a flash stuff (if it can dial with a HTTP
server) or structured text :((
The users want rich text formatting but don't want to learn 10 HTML tags.

>
> Pretty please stop this sillyness!

It's not for introducing stupid marketing animations but a really useful
stuff.

--Gilles




From sean.upton@uniontrib.com  Mon Mar 31 17:47:21 2003
From: sean.upton@uniontrib.com (sean.upton@uniontrib.com)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 09:47:21 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
Message-ID: <AA7A72A46469D411B8B300508BE329500AE4D646@desi2>

You need apache or Squid in front to support virtual hosting, HTTP 1.1,
possibly caching, better security (ACLS, prevent DoS).

You need ZEO regardless of if you run in on 1 box or 100.  In future Zope
releases, ZEO will be an in-the-box sort of thing.

For your traffic, you want page caching, especially for things like the PDFs
you mention. Consider Squid, or at the very least Apache+mod_proxy with
caching of some sort configured.

For your traffic, you also need more than one ZEO client, perhaps on a
single multi-processor machine (scale up), or on a farm of nodes (scale
out).  I can't really tell you how many.  I think you need at least the
following:

- 1 fast box to run as a Squid or Apache caching proxy, mimimum 1-2 GB RAM
and ideally a dedicated raid 0 for cache)
- a few fast boxes to run Zope on
- 1 box with lots of ram and fast storage to run your ZEO storage server on

The last two could potentially be one big box, if done right.

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Fabio Rolando [mailto:ziofunk@tiscali.it]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 7:10 AM
To: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope performance documentation


...forgive me if I bother you.
what would Apache do better if I have no files served outside of Zope? I 
thought that I'd need apache only if I have files to serve that are not 
"passing" through Zope.Am I wrong?
Fabio

For
At 17:12 31-03-03 Monday, you wrote:
>I would use ExtFile for the PDFs, Apache in front and ZEO for failure.
>
>1 GHz + Pentiums, 1 GB of RAM (Zope/Python love RAM,) SCSI drives in RAID.
>
>BZ
>
> > First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
> > I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it
will
> > work when the system will be deployed.
> > We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe
> > expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200
Kb
> > average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use
> > Zope
> > alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?
> > Does the server's hardware need to carry anything special?
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> >
> >> >> Hardware is up to you and what you need. You can run it on almost
> >> >> anything, but if you are going to run http://www.cbsnewyork.com you
> >> >> will
> >> >> need more (I think I read that all the sites combined in that Zope
> >> >> installation run on 48 dual proc linux boxes).
> >> >
> >> > that's way off (it's less). maybe i'll ask the boss-man today to see
> >> if
> >> > i am allowed to publish some real figures in a document somewhere.
> >> >
> >> > jens
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Zope maillist  -  Zope@zope.org
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
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> >
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>
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From sreddy@cise.ufl.edu  Mon Mar 31 18:12:41 2003
From: sreddy@cise.ufl.edu (Santoshi Reddy)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:12:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Zope] error in addZSQLMethod.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.33.0303311308560.25701-100000@sand.cise.ufl.edu>

Hi Folks,

I am trying to add zsql method using python script.I have written the
following.

context.manage_addZSQLMethod('selectname', title='selectname',
connection_id='Oracle_database_connection', arguments='PROF_ID,firstname,middlename,lastname,email,linktowebpage,degree,officenumber,telephonenumber',
template='Select firstname from Professor')

The error that i get is an attribute error.Can someone tell me how to
fix it. Also if anyone has come across a tutorial on using zope API
where u can add new products using python,please send me the URL.

Thanks,
S.



From b.maryniuk@forbis.lt  Mon Mar 31 18:21:42 2003
From: b.maryniuk@forbis.lt (Bo M. Maryniuck)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:21:42 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZODB bug? (Surrogate instance '_p_oid')
In-Reply-To: <3E883117.7060300@objectrealms.net>
References: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt> <3E883117.7060300@objectrealms.net>
Message-ID: <200303312021.42454.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>

On Monday 31 March 2003 14:14, hazmat wrote:
> what version of zope and what version of which da are you using?
Sorry? I already mentioned it TWICE. :-) Zope 2.6.1. So I use

	Z O P E  TWO DOT SIX DOT ONE

> >Can somebody explain what this error means? I think this sounds like
> >a bug in ZODB somewhere... :(
> >
> >Zope: 2.6.1
^^^^^^^^^^^

:-)

-- 
Regards, Bogdan

My mail reader can beat up your mail reader.



From inigoserna@terra.es  Mon Mar 31 18:38:55 2003
From: inigoserna@terra.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?I=F1igo?= Serna)
Date: 31 Mar 2003 20:38:55 +0200
Subject: [Zope] html form authentication
In-Reply-To: <200303301549.27900.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>
References: <820DD572-62D4-11D7-9D00-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <200303301549.27900.elloyd@lancaster.lib.pa.us>
Message-ID: <1049135934.5957.2.camel@inigo.katxi.org>

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Thanks, CookieCrumbler is exactly what I need.
I also looked at exUserFolder, but it seemed a  bit complex for me, I'm
just a YAN (Yet Another Newbie ;-).

Thanks again,
I=F1igo

El dom, 30 de 03 de 2003 a las 22:49, Eron Lloyd escribi=F3:
> Perhaps it would be quite valuable to take CookieCrumbler or some equival=
ent =20
> and have it migrated into the official core (like the Core Session Manage=
r=20
> was)? It seems enough people are looking for this feature...
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Eron
>=20
> On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:24 pm, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> > use the CookieCrumber product (-> search zope.org) to do cookie-based
> > authentication. do not attempt to "hand-roll" authentication by calling
> > methods on the user folder. it will not work.
> >
> > jens
> >
> > On Sunday, Mar 30, 2003, at 10:58 US/Eastern, I=F1igo Serna wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I want to authenticate users from acl_users with my own HTML form and
> > > a python script.
> > > I can't use user._getPassword() because it's an internal method.
> > > and it seems user.authenticate function calls browser authentication
> > > again.
> > > How could I achieve this?
> > >
> > > This is the code I use:
> > >
> > > *************** ZPT "form" ***************
> > > ...
> > >         <form action=3D"login" method=3D"post">
> > >           <table class=3D"form">
> > >             <tbody>
> > >               <tr>
> > >                 <th class=3D"text">Name: </th>
> > >                 <td><input name=3D"user" size=3D"12" maxlength=3D"12"
> > > value=3D""></td>
> > >               </tr>
> > >               <tr>
> > >                 <th class=3D"text">Password: </th>
> > >                 <td><input name=3D"password" type=3D"password" size=
=3D"12"
> > > maxlength=3D"8" value=3D""></td>
> > >               </tr>
> > >               <tr><td>&nbsp;</td></tr>
> > >               <tr>
> > >                 <td align=3D"center">
> > >                   <input type=3D"reset" value=3D"Clean">
> > >                 </td>
> > >                 <td align=3D"center">
> > >                   <input type=3D"SUBMIT" value=3D"Submit">
> > >                 </td>
> > >               </tr>
> > >             </tbody>
> > >           </table>
> > >         </form>
> > > ...
> > > *********************************************
> > >
> > > *************** Script (Python) "login" ***************
> > > request =3D container.REQUEST
> > > RESPONSE =3D  request.RESPONSE
> > > user =3D container.acl_users.getUser(request.user)
> > > try:
> > >     if user.authenticate('the_password', request):
> > >         print 'OK'
> > >     else:
> > >         print 'FAILED'
> > > except AttributeError:
> > >     print 'User doesn\' exist'
> > > return printed
> > > *********************************************
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > I=F1igo
> > > <signature.asc>
> >
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From dbasch@yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 18:00:38 2003
From: dbasch@yahoo.com (Derek Basch)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:00:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <1049132203.21509.1100.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>
Message-ID: <20030331180038.76519.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>

> I may be missing something
> critical, but I find the
> development cycle is much faster when debugging on a
> live instance...

I also prefer to debug on a live instance. However, I
am attempting to debug someone else's product:

http://www.zope.org/Members/mwoj/kinterbasdbDA

I need to know the value of a variable that is
generated during the usage of kinterbasdbDA and have
not had much luck returning the variable value in a
live session.

> Fire up Zope and connect with a local web browser?

Works fine.

I think that the debugger really could be my friend if
I could just get ZPublisher.Zope() to return
something. Perhaps I should submit another request to
the list titled:

"Does Zope Debugging Even Work??"

If you know of any Zopers who might be able to help me
(and the community) out I would greatly appreciate you
forwarding this to them. 

Thanks for everything Dylan,
Derek Basch


--- Dylan Reinhardt <zope@dylanreinhardt.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 08:31, Derek Basch wrote:
> > > Running Zope this way isn't an area of great
> > > expertise for me...
> > 
> > This seems to be no ones area of expertise. Did I
> pick
> > a weird way to debug or something?
> 
> Well... it doesn't appear to offer a lot of
> advantages over debugging
> with a web client.  I may be missing something
> critical, but I find the
> development cycle is much faster when debugging on a
> live instance...
> particularly when what I'm debugging creates layouts
> or other visual
> artifacts.
> 
> 
> > Here is the traceback from my root object request:
> > 
> > >>> ZPublisher.Zope('')
> > Status: 200 OK
> > X-Powered-By: Zope (www.zope.org), Python
> > (www.python.org)
> > Content-Length: 0
> > 
> > I have tried this on 2 separate Zope installs and
> both
> > fail to return the "Zope Quick Start" page. So, it
> > looks like there is a fundamental flaw in how my
> > requests are being processed. I can't believe that
> no
> > one has ever run into this problem before?
> > Suggestions?
> 
> 
> Fire up Zope and connect with a local web browser?  
> 
> Testing is all well and good, but if you're having
> difficulty
> troubleshooting your testing environment, it might
> be better to just
> take an easier route.  Interacting with the ZMI may
> also provide some
> insight... tough to say.
> 
> > 
> > > You might also find this howto helpful:
> >
>
>http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/HowTos/TheDebuggerIsYourFriend
> > 
> > Thanks for the suggestion but that is the page
> that
> > got me started down this highway of confusion!
> 
> Oh... well, maybe the debugger isn't *your* friend
> after all... :-)
> 
> Dylan
> 


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From zope@dylanreinhardt.com  Mon Mar 31 18:54:45 2003
From: zope@dylanreinhardt.com (Dylan Reinhardt)
Date: 31 Mar 2003 10:54:45 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Debugging and Environment Variables
In-Reply-To: <20030331180038.76519.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030331180038.76519.qmail@web20807.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1049136884.21509.1121.camel@ida.dylanreinhardt.com>

On Mon, 2003-03-31 at 10:00, Derek Basch wrote:
> > I may be missing something
> > critical, but I find the
> > development cycle is much faster when debugging on a
> > live instance...
> 
> I also prefer to debug on a live instance. However, I
> am attempting to debug someone else's product:

Ah... somehow I had gotten the impression you were trying to test new
installations.  My apologies for suggesting the obvious.


> http://www.zope.org/Members/mwoj/kinterbasdbDA
> 
> I need to know the value of a variable that is
> generated during the usage of kinterbasdbDA and have
> not had much luck returning the variable value in a
> live session.

In many cases you can do something like:

if error_condition:
    raise 'my_variable is: %s' % my_variable

But more generally, you'll probably want to use pdb:
http://www.zopelabs.com/cookbook/1034779450

> Perhaps I should submit another request to
> the list titled:
> 
> "Does Zope Debugging Even Work??"
> 

Not a bad idea... though Python's debugging is good enough that I
suspect it may not matter.

Dylan



From volker.wend@efgbsh.de  Mon Mar 31 19:09:24 2003
From: volker.wend@efgbsh.de (volker.wend@efgbsh.de)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:09:24 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZCTextIndex Lexicon
Message-ID: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D9C@kommserver1>

It seems to be a Security Issue. If I try to copy a lexicon from somewhere
else to the place I get an exception:

2003-03-31T17:47:09 ERROR(200) SiteError
http://xxxxxxxxxxxxx/TextCatalog/manage_pasteObjects
Traceback (innermost last):
  File C:\Program Files\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 98, in
publish
  File C:\Program Files\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 88, in
mapply
    (Object: manage_pasteObjects)
  File C:\Program Files\Zope\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 39, in
call_object
    (Object: manage_pasteObjects)
  File C:\Program Files\Zope\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 146, in
manage_pasteObjects
    (Object: TextCatalog)
  File C:\Program Files\Zope\lib\python\OFS\CopySupport.py, line 349, in
_verifyObjectPaste
    (Object: TextCatalog)
Unauthorized: <zExceptions.unauthorized.Unauthorized instance at 028AF464>

Volker
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Jung [mailto:andreas@andreas-jung.com] 
Sent: Montag, 31. März 2003 18:22
To: volker.wend@efgbsh.de; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZCTextIndex Lexicon




--On Montag, 31. März 2003 18:20 Uhr +0200 volker.wend@efgbsh.de wrote:

> He folks,
>
> I somehow have a screwed up Zope Installation... I cannot create a 
> ZCTextIndex Lexicon in a subfolder but I can create the lexikon in 
> other folders on the same level.
>
> What did I do ?
>

I noticed the same problem during a ZCatalog workshop where I was running a
presenation using Zope from the head. I told the participants to create a
lexicion in the parent folder of the ZCatalog. It worked for me but it
failed on all installations running Zope 2.6.X.

-aj


From casey@zope.com  Mon Mar 31 19:36:56 2003
From: casey@zope.com (Casey Duncan)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:36:56 -0500
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects takes ages
In-Reply-To: <000701c2f7a7$5079e4c0$0200a8c0@wankyu>
References: <000701c2f7a7$5079e4c0$0200a8c0@wankyu>
Message-ID: <200303311436.56081.casey@zope.com>

On Monday 31 March 2003 12:02 pm, Wankyu Choi wrote:
> So glad to catch your attention :-)
>=20
> >Subclassing ZCatalog can be a maintenance headache. I did it for=20
> DocumentLibrary and regretted it.
>=20
> Can you expound on this? In fact, I did just the opposite. First, I tri=
ed
> "self._np_catalog =3D NeoPortalCatalog()" where NeoPortalCatalog is a s=
ubclass
> of ZCatalog. Thought better ( or worse should I say :-) of it, and inhe=
rited
> directly from NeoPortalCatalog. Thought it would be easier in terms of
> maintenance.

What I found was that forward compatibility was a problem. I just so happ=
ened=20
to land right before ZCatalog was refactored majorly for Zope 2.4.  I rea=
lly=20
depends on how much internal ZCatalog machinery/data structures you depen=
d=20
on...

See more comments inline:
=20
> >> Performance? Not so fast as SQL-backed PHP version ( displaying a=20
> >> pageful of threads takes only a fraction of a second ), but not bad.
>=20
> > Is this Zope 2.6.1? What do the queries look like?
>=20
> Zope 2.6.1 with Python 2.2. Heard Python 2.2 works just fine with Zope =
2.6.1
> and has had no obvious problems yet.
>=20
> Here's the code block that returns the query results and sorts a portio=
n of
> them if necessary ( a non-threaded look doesn't require this sort.=20
>=20
> security.declarePrivate( '_getArticles' )               =20
>     def _getArticles( self
>                     , top=3DNone
>                     , expand_all=3D0
>                     , skey=3DNone
>                     , reverse=3D0
>                     , default_reverse=3D0
>                     , search_fields=3D''
>                     , search_keywords=3D''
>                     , b_start=3D0
>                     , limit=3DNone ):
>         """
>             Return a complete list of brains objects from the Catalog
>         """
>                   =20
>         if search_fields and search_keywords:
>=20
>             index_map =3D {'title': 'Title'
>                     , 'creator':'Creator'
>                     , 'creator_email':'CreatorEmail'
>                     , 'body':'getNeoPortalContentSearchText'
>                     , 'category':'getArticleCategory'
>                     , 'comments':'getInlineCommentsSearchText'
>                     , 'comment_creators':'getInlineCommentCreators'
>                     , 'attachments': 'getAttachmentsSearchText'}   =20
>                =20
>             new_indexes =3D []
>             for index in search_fields.keys():
>                 new_indexes.append( index_map[index] )
>=20
>             results =3D self.search( indexes=3Dnew_indexes,
> keywords=3Dsearch_keywords.split( ' ' )  )
>=20
>         else:
>             # threads are automatically reverse-sorted on sort_keys
>=20
>             reverse =3D int( reverse )
>             result_limit =3D None
>             b_start =3D int( b_start )
>             if limit is not None:
>                 limit =3D int( limit )
>                 result_limit =3D b_start + limit
>=20
>             if skey:
>                 if skey=3D=3D'np_read_count': skey =3D 'getNeoPortalRea=
dCount'
>                 elif skey=3D=3D'np_num_ratings': skey =3D
> 'getNeoPortalNumContentRatings'
>                 else: skey =3D 'creation_date'
>                 sort_order =3D ''               =20
>                 if reverse: sort_order =3D 'reverse'
>                 results =3D self.searchResults(
> meta_type=3DNeoBoardArticle.meta_type, isTempNeoBoardArticle=3D0, sort_=
on=3Dskey,
> sort_order=3Dsort_order, limit =3D result_limit )

If you are trying to use the new sort limits, use: sort_limit =3D result_=
limit

[snip]
>            =20
>     security.declarePublic( 'sortAritlceThreads' )               =20
>     def sortArticleThreads( self, brains ):
>         """
>             Sort a list of brains=20
>         """
>=20
>         import operator=20
>=20
>         temp_list =3D map( lambda x: ( getattr( x.getObject(), '_sort_k=
ey' ),
> getattr( x.getObject(), '_thread_sort_key' ), x ), brains )
>               =20
>         temp_list.sort()
>         brains[:] =3D map( operator.getitem, temp_list, ( -1, ) * len(
> temp_list ) )
>          =20
>         return brains

This sorting code is not going to scale well at all.
=20
> - isTempNeoBoardArticle: NeoBoard does what CMF does. When a user posts=
 an
> article, it first creates a temp article and examines it. If unacceptab=
le,
> deletes it. The method tells if the article is a temporary one or not.
> - isThreadParent: tells if the article is the top-most one in the threa=
d.
> - expand_all: Boolean value to tell if we need a threaded-look.
> - getSortKey: returns thread sorting key. It's the inversed article num=
ber:
> article 50's sort key  becomes -50 when added to the board for automati=
c
> reverse-sorting. ( Tried creation_date once, but it turned out to be a
> disaster when you do import/export.)

To make creation date work, you'd need to make it an application modified=
=20
attribute.

> - result_limit: calculated on the basis of the current batch.
>=20
> If you want to take a look at it in context, I've got a viewCVS set up =
here:
> http://cvs.zoper.net:3333/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/NeoBoard/NeoBoard.py
>=20
> And you can see the board in action here:
> http://www.zoper.net/Boards/qa/view
>=20
> I learned while reading docs on ZCatalog that I'd get better results by
> adding meta data to brain objects. Will remove that expensive sorting m=
ethod
> soon.

No actually, metadata won't help sorting much. If you want "out of band"=20
sorting Catalog (as of 2.6.1) has a method called sortResults, whose=20
signature looks like this:

sortResults(rs, sort_index, reverse=3D0, limit=3DNone, merge=3D1)

Where rs is the bare recordset (which can be had by calling searchResults=
(...,=20
_merge=3D0))
sort_index is the index to sort by (the object not the name)
reverse is the direction (sort_order)
limit is the sort limit
merge determines what is returned (1=3Dbrains, 0=3Da sorted list of rids)=
, you=20
probably want 1

So you could do:

catalog =3D self._catalog
rs =3D catalog.searchResults(..., _merge=3D0)
=2E..do some stuff with rs...
return catalog.sortResults(rs, self.getIndex(sort_key), ...)

>=20
> >> another set of problems while so doing.  I could display 5,000 threa=
ds=20
> >> ( about 20,000 article obects incuding all replies to the threads) i=
n=20
> >> less than a second ( it takes a bit more when you load the board for=
=20
> >> the first time. ) The problems are...
>=20
> > I would be interested in using this data as a benchmark for improveme=
nts
> in=20
> 2.7...
>=20
> Took me a whole day to generate these articles; had fun with them for a=
bout
> a week and lost them last night when the board's catalog went crazy wit=
h
> missing keys; I had to remove the board and the data went with it :-(
>=20
> On a different note. Creating an article object doesn't require that mu=
ch
> computation power. Just a bunch of init values for its properties. But
> instantiating an article in a for loop, for example, takes more than a
> second and it gets worse as the loop goes on. Is it because ZODB's
> transaction/version support? Normally, how long should it take to gener=
ate
> 20,000 not-so-heavy objects? Taking more than an hour seems not right w=
ith
> enough horsepower. When creating those test data, I had to take a long =
nap
> :-(

You should probably commit a subtransaction every so often so as not to u=
se=20
too much memory. Sounds like it was trying to commit a really big=20
transaction. If these objects are all nested and you create a big hierarc=
hy,=20
that might explain it a bit.
 =20
[snip]
> > that causes these key errors. Do these keyerrors happen at search tim=
e?
>=20
> No, I meant a key error in 'mybrain.getObject()', that is, a ghost entr=
y in
> the Catalog without the corresponding object. Guess it happens after a
> massive set of additions or deletions. Can't pinpoint a case. Fast relo=
ads
> sometimes do generate ZODB conflict errors. If you reload while reindex=
ing
> everything with heavy disk I/O, you usually get these ZODB conflicts. M=
aybe
> I should do some work on conflict resolutions?

That means an object was deleted without being unindexed. Sounds like an=20
application bug somewhere.

BTW: Calling getObject for every object found is a really bad idea and wi=
ll=20
kill performance.

[snip]
> I was wrong. I looked into the Catalog.py more closely and it was not t=
he
> getIndex() call that was taking too long, but each index was. For examp=
le,
> 'Title' is a textindex and 'creation_date' is a DateIndex. Why would a
> TextIndex take that long to index an article with a simple title 'test'=
? The
> DateIndex is also painfully slow.=20

I can't tell you without seeing it myself ;^). If you can demonstrate thi=
s=20
behavior in a relatively simple test case, I'd be interested in helping t=
o=20
fix it, if not for TextIndex then at least for DateIndex.
=20
> > I would definitely Try ZCTextIndex, just because its searching works =
so
> much better.
>=20
> Will try :-)
>=20
> > One general suggestion: What is your ZODB cache set to?=20
>=20
> I'm running these tests both on my desktop Linux box and on a set of
> enterprise servers.
>=20
> Desktop: Pentium 4, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest errata applied, 51=
2M
> RAM, cache set to 8,000, FileStorage
>=20
> Enterprise servers:=20
>=20
> - ZEO Storage Server: dual Xeon P4, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest er=
rata
> applied, 4G RAM, 430G SCSI HDDs with RAID 5, DirectoryStorage on Reiser=
FS
> with noatime on
> - ZEO Client: dual P3 tualatin, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest errata
> applied, 2G RAM with ZODB cache set to 20,000.
>=20
> Both my desktop and the ZEO client show the same symptoms. The ZEO serv=
ers
> render CMF/Plone + NeoBoard pages in an average of 0.3 ~ 0.5 second, so=
 I
> don't think there's any hardware/cache problems.
>=20
> >> Any help, hints or comments would be much appreciated.  I do need to=
=20
> >> move on with this project :-( It's been almost a year now...ouch.=20
> >> Weeks became months; months became a whole year... whew.
>=20
> > Yup, been there ;^)
>=20
> Been there too many times with other tools. Just hoped this time would =
be
> different with Zope :-)=20
>=20
> Thanks for your help.
>=20
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>   Wankyu Choi
>   CEO/President
>   NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
>   http://www.zoper.net
>   http://www.neoboard.net
> ---------------------------------------------------------------  =20
>=20
>=20



From wankyu@neoqst.com  Mon Mar 31 20:15:31 2003
From: wankyu@neoqst.com (Wankyu Choi)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 05:15:31 +0900
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects takes ages
In-Reply-To: <200303311436.56081.casey@zope.com>
Message-ID: <001801c2f7c2$4766c9f0$0200a8c0@wankyu>

Thanks a million.

I'll give it a try first thing in the morning ( oops, it's already 5AM =
in
Korea; gotta go to bed  ;-).

---------------------------------------------------------------
  Wankyu Choi
  CEO/President
  NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
  http://www.zoper.net
  http://www.neoboard.net
---------------------------------------------------------------  =20

-----Original Message-----
From: zope-admin@zope.org [mailto:zope-admin@zope.org] On Behalf Of =
Casey
Duncan
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 4:37 AM
To: Wankyu Choi; zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects =
takes
ages


On Monday 31 March 2003 12:02 pm, Wankyu Choi wrote:
> So glad to catch your attention :-)
>=20
> >Subclassing ZCatalog can be a maintenance headache. I did it for
> DocumentLibrary and regretted it.
>=20
> Can you expound on this? In fact, I did just the opposite. First, I=20
> tried "self._np_catalog =3D NeoPortalCatalog()" where NeoPortalCatalog =

> is a subclass of ZCatalog. Thought better ( or worse should I say :-)=20
> of it, and inherited directly from NeoPortalCatalog. Thought it would=20
> be easier in terms of maintenance.

What I found was that forward compatibility was a problem. I just so
happened=20
to land right before ZCatalog was refactored majorly for Zope 2.4.  I =
really

depends on how much internal ZCatalog machinery/data structures you =
depend=20
on...

See more comments inline:
=20
> >> Performance? Not so fast as SQL-backed PHP version ( displaying a
> >> pageful of threads takes only a fraction of a second ), but not =
bad.
>=20
> > Is this Zope 2.6.1? What do the queries look like?
>=20
> Zope 2.6.1 with Python 2.2. Heard Python 2.2 works just fine with Zope =

> 2.6.1 and has had no obvious problems yet.
>=20
> Here's the code block that returns the query results and sorts a=20
> portion of them if necessary ( a non-threaded look doesn't require=20
> this sort.
>=20
> security.declarePrivate( '_getArticles' )               =20
>     def _getArticles( self
>                     , top=3DNone
>                     , expand_all=3D0
>                     , skey=3DNone
>                     , reverse=3D0
>                     , default_reverse=3D0
>                     , search_fields=3D''
>                     , search_keywords=3D''
>                     , b_start=3D0
>                     , limit=3DNone ):
>         """
>             Return a complete list of brains objects from the Catalog
>         """
>                   =20
>         if search_fields and search_keywords:
>=20
>             index_map =3D {'title': 'Title'
>                     , 'creator':'Creator'
>                     , 'creator_email':'CreatorEmail'
>                     , 'body':'getNeoPortalContentSearchText'
>                     , 'category':'getArticleCategory'
>                     , 'comments':'getInlineCommentsSearchText'
>                     , 'comment_creators':'getInlineCommentCreators'
>                     , 'attachments': 'getAttachmentsSearchText'}   =20
>                =20
>             new_indexes =3D []
>             for index in search_fields.keys():
>                 new_indexes.append( index_map[index] )
>=20
>             results =3D self.search( indexes=3Dnew_indexes,=20
> keywords=3Dsearch_keywords.split( ' ' )  )
>=20
>         else:
>             # threads are automatically reverse-sorted on sort_keys
>=20
>             reverse =3D int( reverse )
>             result_limit =3D None
>             b_start =3D int( b_start )
>             if limit is not None:
>                 limit =3D int( limit )
>                 result_limit =3D b_start + limit
>=20
>             if skey:
>                 if skey=3D=3D'np_read_count': skey =3D =
'getNeoPortalReadCount'
>                 elif skey=3D=3D'np_num_ratings': skey =3D=20
> 'getNeoPortalNumContentRatings'
>                 else: skey =3D 'creation_date'
>                 sort_order =3D ''               =20
>                 if reverse: sort_order =3D 'reverse'
>                 results =3D self.searchResults(=20
> meta_type=3DNeoBoardArticle.meta_type, isTempNeoBoardArticle=3D0,=20
> sort_on=3Dskey, sort_order=3Dsort_order, limit =3D result_limit )

If you are trying to use the new sort limits, use: sort_limit =3D =
result_limit

[snip]
>            =20
>     security.declarePublic( 'sortAritlceThreads' )               =20
>     def sortArticleThreads( self, brains ):
>         """
>             Sort a list of brains=20
>         """
>=20
>         import operator
>=20
>         temp_list =3D map( lambda x: ( getattr( x.getObject(),=20
> '_sort_key' ), getattr( x.getObject(), '_thread_sort_key' ), x ),=20
> brains )
>               =20
>         temp_list.sort()
>         brains[:] =3D map( operator.getitem, temp_list, ( -1, ) * len( =

> temp_list ) )
>          =20
>         return brains

This sorting code is not going to scale well at all.
=20
> - isTempNeoBoardArticle: NeoBoard does what CMF does. When a user=20
> posts an article, it first creates a temp article and examines it. If=20
> unacceptable, deletes it. The method tells if the article is a=20
> temporary one or not.
> - isThreadParent: tells if the article is the top-most one in the =
thread.
> - expand_all: Boolean value to tell if we need a threaded-look.
> - getSortKey: returns thread sorting key. It's the inversed article
number:
> article 50's sort key  becomes -50 when added to the board for =
automatic
> reverse-sorting. ( Tried creation_date once, but it turned out to be a
> disaster when you do import/export.)

To make creation date work, you'd need to make it an application =
modified=20
attribute.

> - result_limit: calculated on the basis of the current batch.
>=20
> If you want to take a look at it in context, I've got a viewCVS set up =

> here:=20
> http://cvs.zoper.net:3333/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/NeoBoard/NeoBoard.py
>=20
> And you can see the board in action here:=20
> http://www.zoper.net/Boards/qa/view
>=20
> I learned while reading docs on ZCatalog that I'd get better results=20
> by adding meta data to brain objects. Will remove that expensive=20
> sorting method soon.

No actually, metadata won't help sorting much. If you want "out of band" =

sorting Catalog (as of 2.6.1) has a method called sortResults, whose=20
signature looks like this:

sortResults(rs, sort_index, reverse=3D0, limit=3DNone, merge=3D1)

Where rs is the bare recordset (which can be had by calling
searchResults(...,=20
_merge=3D0))
sort_index is the index to sort by (the object not the name) reverse is =
the
direction (sort_order) limit is the sort limit merge determines what is
returned (1=3Dbrains, 0=3Da sorted list of rids), you=20
probably want 1

So you could do:

catalog =3D self._catalog
rs =3D catalog.searchResults(..., _merge=3D0)
...do some stuff with rs...
return catalog.sortResults(rs, self.getIndex(sort_key), ...)

>=20
> >> another set of problems while so doing.  I could display 5,000=20
> >> threads
> >> ( about 20,000 article obects incuding all replies to the threads) =
in=20
> >> less than a second ( it takes a bit more when you load the board =
for=20
> >> the first time. ) The problems are...
>=20
> > I would be interested in using this data as a benchmark for=20
> > improvements
> in
> 2.7...
>=20
> Took me a whole day to generate these articles; had fun with them for=20
> about a week and lost them last night when the board's catalog went=20
> crazy with missing keys; I had to remove the board and the data went=20
> with it :-(
>=20
> On a different note. Creating an article object doesn't require that=20
> much computation power. Just a bunch of init values for its=20
> properties. But instantiating an article in a for loop, for example,=20
> takes more than a second and it gets worse as the loop goes on. Is it=20
> because ZODB's transaction/version support? Normally, how long should=20
> it take to generate 20,000 not-so-heavy objects? Taking more than an=20
> hour seems not right with enough horsepower. When creating those test=20
> data, I had to take a long nap :-(

You should probably commit a subtransaction every so often so as not to =
use=20
too much memory. Sounds like it was trying to commit a really big=20
transaction. If these objects are all nested and you create a big =
hierarchy,

that might explain it a bit.
 =20
[snip]
> > that causes these key errors. Do these keyerrors happen at search=20
> > time?
>=20
> No, I meant a key error in 'mybrain.getObject()', that is, a ghost=20
> entry in the Catalog without the corresponding object. Guess it=20
> happens after a massive set of additions or deletions. Can't pinpoint=20
> a case. Fast reloads sometimes do generate ZODB conflict errors. If=20
> you reload while reindexing everything with heavy disk I/O, you=20
> usually get these ZODB conflicts. Maybe I should do some work on=20
> conflict resolutions?

That means an object was deleted without being unindexed. Sounds like an =

application bug somewhere.

BTW: Calling getObject for every object found is a really bad idea and =
will=20
kill performance.

[snip]
> I was wrong. I looked into the Catalog.py more closely and it was not=20
> the
> getIndex() call that was taking too long, but each index was. For =
example,
> 'Title' is a textindex and 'creation_date' is a DateIndex. Why would a
> TextIndex take that long to index an article with a simple title =
'test'?
The
> DateIndex is also painfully slow.=20

I can't tell you without seeing it myself ;^). If you can demonstrate =
this=20
behavior in a relatively simple test case, I'd be interested in helping =
to=20
fix it, if not for TextIndex then at least for DateIndex.
=20
> > I would definitely Try ZCTextIndex, just because its searching works =

> > so
> much better.
>=20
> Will try :-)
>=20
> > One general suggestion: What is your ZODB cache set to?
>=20
> I'm running these tests both on my desktop Linux box and on a set of=20
> enterprise servers.
>=20
> Desktop: Pentium 4, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest errata applied,=20
> 512M RAM, cache set to 8,000, FileStorage
>=20
> Enterprise servers:
>=20
> - ZEO Storage Server: dual Xeon P4, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest=20
> errata applied, 4G RAM, 430G SCSI HDDs with RAID 5, DirectoryStorage=20
> on ReiserFS with noatime on
> - ZEO Client: dual P3 tualatin, RH Linux 8.0 with all the latest=20
> errata applied, 2G RAM with ZODB cache set to 20,000.
>=20
> Both my desktop and the ZEO client show the same symptoms. The ZEO=20
> servers render CMF/Plone + NeoBoard pages in an average of 0.3 ~ 0.5=20
> second, so I don't think there's any hardware/cache problems.
>=20
> >> Any help, hints or comments would be much appreciated.  I do need=20
> >> to
> >> move on with this project :-( It's been almost a year now...ouch.=20
> >> Weeks became months; months became a whole year... whew.
>=20
> > Yup, been there ;^)
>=20
> Been there too many times with other tools. Just hoped this time would =

> be different with Zope :-)
>=20
> Thanks for your help.
>=20
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>   Wankyu Choi
>   CEO/President
>   NeoQuest Communications, Inc.
>   http://www.zoper.net
>   http://www.neoboard.net
> ---------------------------------------------------------------  =20
>=20
>=20


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From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:53:38 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:53:38 +0200
Subject: [Zope] CorruptedDataError
In-Reply-To: <20030331142543.GD3120@stud.ntnu.no>
References: <20030331142543.GD3120@stud.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <16008.43730.169088.400546@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Jorg E. R=F8dsj=F8 wrote at 2003-3-31 16:25 +0200:
 > ...
 > /home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.p=
y,
 > line 630, in _load
 >     (Object: /home/zope/zope261/Zope-2.6.1-linux2-x86/var/Data.fs)
 > CorruptedDataError:=20

Looks like a case for "fsrecover" (make a backup copy of your "Data.fs"!).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:59:18 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:59:18 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Making transactions un-undoable ?
In-Reply-To: <200303311739.32119.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
References: <200303311739.32119.thierry.florac@onf.fr>
Message-ID: <16008.44070.906918.277088@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Thierry FLORAC wrote at 2003-3-31 17:39 +0200:
 > ...
 > My question is : is there any way to make a specific transaction not undoable 
 > (without using a specific storage which may prohibit undo) ??

I think, I saw something is the code.
But I do not remember the details.

It's as difficult for you as it is for me to check the code again...


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:52:53 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:52:53 +0200
Subject: [Zope] XHTML and Zope
In-Reply-To: <3E8841FE.5000403@queisser-net.de>
References: <3E8841FE.5000403@queisser-net.de>
Message-ID: <16008.43685.313331.928063@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Sebastian Quei=DFer wrote at 2003-3-31 15:26 +0200:
 > I've got a XHTML-Document with MathML. This document is static and=20
 > should only be served by zope. The problem is, that in older versions=20
 > than 2.6.0 it is working, but since this version the document my brows=
er=20
 > (mozilla) starts loading the document, shows the title and the stops=20
 > without error. This is strange, because the document is valid and it=20
 > works with an older version of zope. Is this a bug or did I do somethi=
ng=20
 > wrong?

I would use a TCPLogger (such as Shane's "tcpwatch") to
analyse what happens between browser and Zope.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:37:58 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:37:58 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Installing a 2nd Distro
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030330134328.0210e6f0@mail.web.vi>
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030330134328.0210e6f0@mail.web.vi>
Message-ID: <16008.42790.468181.230328@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

beno wrote at 2003-3-30 13:44 -0400:
 > ....
 > Zope first complained (while compiling) that it couldn't find file
 > 
 > /usr/local/bin/python2.2/config/Makefile.pre.in
 > 
 > Indeed, there was no such file. But there *was* such a file here:
 > 
 > /usr/local/bin/Python-2.2.2/Makefile.pre.in
 > 
 > so I created a symbolic link (didn't figure it would hurt any ;) Now I get 
 > this error:
 > 
 > Compiling extensions in lib/python
 > cp /usr/local/lib/python2.2/config/Makefile.pre.in .
 > make -f Makefile.pre.in boot PYTHON=/usr/local/bin/python
 > make: *** No rule to make target `boot'.  Stop.

Apparently, your "Makefile.pre.in" is not the right one.

Usually, you must install the development package of Python
to get it or generate Python from source.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:56:17 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:56:17 +0200
Subject: [Zope] Zope performance documentation
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
References: <1E8D7A62-637E-11D7-98B2-0003939EFEBC@zope.com>
 <64174.199.67.138.20.1049117431.squirrel@webmail.mahnke.net>
 <5.2.0.9.0.20030331164602.00aa2ca0@pop.tiscalinet.it>
Message-ID: <16008.43889.867963.867868@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Fabio Rolando wrote at 2003-3-31 16:57 +0200:
 > First of all thank you a lot for you attention.
 > I'm quite new to Zope so it is still difficoult to understand how it will 
 > work when the system will be deployed.
 > We need to size the system for (all values are the absolute maximumwe 
 > expect) 10.000 authenticated users, 10.000 documents (5000 pdf with 200 Kb 
 > average size, and 500 html), 1000 hits/minute. Do you think we can use Zope 
 > alone (no ZEO, no Apache)?

My Zope can handle about 20 hits per second (on
a 1.4 GHz AMD). However, I doubt this will work for 200kB requests ;-).

Think about caching the pages.

Think about directly delivering static pages from a Web server
in front without going through Zope.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:35:53 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:35:53 +0200
Subject: [Zope] pb upgrading Zope 2.5.0 -> 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <001201c2f6a4$0be435d0$0a00000a@Giga>
References: <001201c2f6a4$0be435d0$0a00000a@Giga>
Message-ID: <16008.42665.610963.974832@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Nicolas LAURANCE wrote at 2003-3-30 12:06 +0200:
 > ...
 > I have developped a website under zope 2.5.0, mostly w/ dtml a python
 > scripts.
 > It is based on zclass defined in products (not external products)
 > 3 of them were imported without pbs under Zope 2.6.1, but one of them (that
 > has nothing special), when I import it raises :
 > 
 > Error Type: ImportError
 > Error Value: No module named iclass

A well known problem with a known solution.

Please search the mailing list archives to find it.
 > ....
 > question 2:
 > when i import folders, the bobobase_modification_time of all the objects is
 > reset to the date of importation.
 > how can I keep this date unchanged when importing ?

You cannot. Use your own attribute for modification time in the future.
Forget about "bobobase_modification_time".

However, it is not necessary to export your data from Zope 2.5
and import it into Zope 2.6.1.
You can directly use your "Data.fs" in Zope 2.6.1 (provided you
have all necessary external products installed in the new installation).


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:51:51 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:51:51 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog performance issues - catalogging objects takes ages
In-Reply-To: <001e01c2f772$e11e7fc0$0200a8c0@wankyu>
References: <001e01c2f772$e11e7fc0$0200a8c0@wankyu>
Message-ID: <16008.43623.788404.992734@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Wankyu Choi wrote at 2003-3-31 19:47 +0900:
 > - It takes ages when cataloging even a small number of articles. 18 seconds
 > for cataloging 50 or so article objects with so little to index? Is it
 > normal? Can't imagine recataloging 20,000 objects.  For example, if you move
 > a thread from one NeoBoard instance to another, you have to uncatalog the
 > thread including  all its replies in NeoBoad A and catalog them in NeoBoard
 > B: cataloging a single article object takes more than 1 second. Don't think
 > it's normal... Or is it?

The connection between objects and cataloguing is very generic and
flexible but unfortunately also costly.

  Each index and each metadata entry causes one method to be called
  per document. If the call is expensive, this can slow things down
  considerably.

  Use only metadata entries, you really need.

We have about 5 metadata entries and about 7 indexes and can
index about 10 documents per second (on a 1.4 GH AMD).

Batching indexing can help a lot to improve efficiency.
We use Shane's QueueCatalog for this purpose.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:32:40 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:32:40 +0200
Subject: [Zope] HTTP Quoting, XHTML
In-Reply-To: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C123@AUHEXCH>
References: <211AD0070D42D1118C7B00A024FF19AE24C123@AUHEXCH>
Message-ID: <16008.42472.430390.862143@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Samir Mishra wrote at 2003-3-30 08:05 +0400:
 > Is there a Python/Zope function for HTTP quoting of strings?

You can use DTML's entity reference syntax (when you do not know
what this is, see

  <http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>

).

You can use the DTML attribute "html_quote" and the
function "html_quote" in "Products.PythonScripts.standard".


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 19:25:01 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:25:01 +0200
Subject: Multiple sort keys for ZCatalog searching (was: RE: [Zope] Hardware for Zope + ZEO)
In-Reply-To: <3E88093A.9090202@nipltd.com>
References: <000201c2c9b7$8360c2f0$9002c9d3@wankyu>
 <3E88093A.9090202@nipltd.com>
Message-ID: <16008.38413.426564.294991@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

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Chris Withers wrote at 2003-3-31 10:24 +0100:
 > Dieter Maurer wrote:
 > > I have code to extend ZCatalog's sorting capability to arbitrary many
 > > sort keys.
 > > 
 > > Maybe, we want something like this in the Zope core?
 > 
 > Yes PLEASE!
 > 
 > What does the code look like?
 > 
 > Anything I can do to help?

Attached.

Dieter

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From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:43:08 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:43:08 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZODB bug? (Surrogate instance '_p_oid')
In-Reply-To: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
References: <200303311034.52026.b.maryniuk@forbis.lt>
Message-ID: <16008.43100.395882.43103@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Bo M. Maryniuck wrote at 2003-3-31 10:34 +0200:
 > Can somebody explain what this error means? I think this sounds like
 > a bug in ZODB somewhere... :(
 > 
 > Zope: 2.6.1
 > OS: Linux SuSE 8.0 Pro
 > 
 > ==============================================
 > Traceback (innermost last):
 > 
 >     * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 102, in publish
 >     * Module Zope.App.startup, line 200, in commit
 >     * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 261, in commit
 >     * Module ZODB.Transaction, line 392, in _commit_error
 > 
 > AttributeError: Surrogate instance has no attribute '_p_oid'

When an object needs to have special treatment at transaction
commit/abort, it registers either itself or a surrogate
object with the transaction.

The transaction expects the object registered to have
a "_p_jar" attribute. It calls this object's
"tpc_begin/finish/vote/commit/abort" method when the
transaction commits/aborts.

When "_p_jar" is a ZODB connection (the most usual case),
the connection expects the object to have a "_p_oid" attribute.

Apparently, one of your objects registers a surrogate
with a ZODB connection as "_p_jar" but without a "_p_oid".
This is definitely a bug. You must find this object and fix its
class.


Dieter


From dieter@handshake.de  Mon Mar 31 20:57:53 2003
From: dieter@handshake.de (Dieter Maurer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:57:53 +0200
Subject: [Zope] ZCTextIndex Lexicon
In-Reply-To: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D9B@kommserver1>
References: <CF4502EBEF6E7844A79CF4730AD275A4028D9B@kommserver1>
Message-ID: <16008.43985.418531.780571@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

volker.wend@efgbsh.de wrote at 2003-3-31 18:20 +0200:
 > I somehow have a screwed up Zope Installation... I cannot create a
 > ZCTextIndex Lexicon in a subfolder but I can create the lexikon in other
 > folders on the same level. 
 > 
 > What did I do ?

What happens, when you try?

To help you, we need a precise problem description:

   Error type, error value and traceback, in case you get an exception.



Dieter


From chad_lists@rednaxel.com  Mon Mar 31 21:53:50 2003
From: chad_lists@rednaxel.com (Chad Nantais)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:53:50 -0800
Subject: [Zope] Skins folder for python (non-cmf) product
Message-ID: <41DB22E8-63C3-11D7-A018-000A27899802@rednaxel.com>

I am making a product which will act as the 'core' for a site which 
uses some of my customer products like 'customer' and 'salesperson'.  I 
want any request for a page to be handled by the core product which 
will provide skins like main_template, customer_search_form, 
salesperson_add_form.  What sort of hack do I need to perform so that 
when, for example, someone requests customer_search_form while they are 
in the Customer folder, the search form gets acquired from my core 
object?  I am currently doing this by defining variables in my 'class 
Core:' for each possible skin.  However, I want to get away from 
defining each skin in the core class.  I want each skin in the 
filesystem directory Core/www to become available to all subobjects.

Any hints?

Thanks.
Chad



From nicolas.laurance@wanadoo.fr  Mon Mar 31 22:23:51 2003
From: nicolas.laurance@wanadoo.fr (Nicolas LAURANCE)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 00:23:51 +0200
Subject: [Zope] pb upgrading Zope 2.5.0 -> 2.6.1
In-Reply-To: <16008.42665.610963.974832@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <000001c2f7d4$3578c5b0$0a00000a@Giga>

 > ...
 > I have developped a website under zope 2.5.0, mostly w/ dtml a python
 > scripts.
 > It is based on zclass defined in products (not external products)
 > 3 of them were imported without pbs under Zope 2.6.1, but one of them
(that
 > has nothing special), when I import it raises :
 >
 > Error Type: ImportError
 > Error Value: No module named iclass

A well known problem with a known solution.

Please search the mailing list archives to find it.

> Yup. This was discussed about a week ago. Search the mailing
> list archives; but as I remember, only the ZClasses descended
> from ObjectManager have the problem, and then only if there
> is a non-empty list on the SubObjects tab. To export from
> 2.5.x, remove all from that list; then it will import fine
> into 2.6. Then, I presume that you can recreate the list of
> allowed subobjects, though I have not tried this.
>
>
> -- Jim Washington

Worked for me !!



From tpassin@mitretek.org  Mon Mar 31 22:50:56 2003
From: tpassin@mitretek.org (Passin, Tom)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:50:56 -0500
Subject: [Zope] Detecting Mozilla based browsers
Message-ID: <5D3C2276FD64424297729EB733ED1F7601EE0E02@email1.mitretek.org>

[Gilles Lenfant]

> I'm trying to detect (server side) Mozilla+Midas compatible browsers.
> Since this feature (Midas) is new, finding "Gecko" in the user agent
> signature doesn't seem to be enough.
>=20
> Any clue ? Does it need a Javascript helper ?
>=20

IE does not use the name "cssRules" as per the DOM Rec, while Moz does.
You can discover this somewhat as follows -

var stylesheet=3Ddocument.styleSheets[0]
var rules=3Dstylesheet.rules
var UA
if (rules) { // Must be IE
   UA =3D 'IE'
}
else {
   rules =3D stylesheet.cssRules
   if (rules) { // Correct DOM name - probably Moz
      UA =3D 'Moz'
   }
}

For this to work, there must be a css stylesheet in the document, or
document.stylesSheets[0] will fail.

Now it may happen that some other browser would pass this test, so you
would want to try several such tests.  One possibility is the
XMLHTTPREQUEST object, which exists in both browsers but gets
instantiated differently - see

http://jibbering.com/2002/4/httprequest.html

Cheers,

Tom P