[Zope] Re: login page problem

[Cliff Ford]

I am not sure I have much to add. I have been concerned about your 
product architecture and unusual login procedure, but that is really non 
of my business. Some of what you say below is inconsistent:

 > One problem that concerns next query is that it took only one table
 > for user details whereas i had one more table for district.
...
 > userdetail table is linked using this district code.

 From this, and what you said previously, I presume you have login 
working but for only the half of the users in one of the two User 
tables. I already suggested alternative ways of handling this.

If your folders are going to be Districts consider giving users who need 
to fill out forms in one District a Local Role in that District, and 
users who need access to many districts a Local Role in the Districts 
parent folder.

This correspondence is too long for anyone else to follow. Next time, 
may I suggest come back to the list with a new question in a new thread.

Cliff

prabuddha ray wrote:
> HI Cliff,
>           I was hoping another reply eagerly. hope you dint give up on me.
> 
> I've got some clarifications given below.
> 
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:08:50 +0100, Cliff Ford <Cliff.Ford at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>>I am abstracting bits of your email below in case anyone else wants to
>>join in.
>>
>>If you are going to use Plone I can't offer advice - I have looked at
>>Plone on three separate occasions, and recently read The Definitive
>>Guide to Plone, and have stil decided not to use it. I only say this to
>>make it clear that many applications are built without CMS and Plone.
>>
> 
> 
> I had no idea about this. i knew that zope acts as a app server and
> plone is the front end tool.
> In fact I'm building the store's site as a plone site in zope. As a
> matter of fact i've not done much specific in plone . just built 2
> tabpanes.
> I configured the exUserFolder using the mysql database and as expected
> it built up a seperate login system. so i believe it'll work on itself
> without plone.
> One problem that concerns next query is that it took only one table
> for user details whereas i had one more table for district.
> 
> 
>>Two separate tables with User information is awkward! The user folders I
>>know of expect user information to come from one source. So you either
>>have to create two folders, each with its own acl_users (provided by one
>>of the User Folder Products), or you have to hack the User Folder
>>product to put in a Union select statement in place of a simple Select.
>>d quarters.
> 
> 
> let me explain the login page flow. a dropdown list of districts is
> available on load. on selecting a  district the page reloads and the
> available users are listed in 2nd dropdown list.
> after selecting the user the password is to be given. So that way i
> need both the 'district' and the 'userdetail' table. actually the
> district table has district code ,name and other stores related nfo.
> userdetail table is linked using this district code.
> 
> 
>>You have not said whether the people in the different districts do
>>completely different things with different forms, or identical things
>>but specifying the district. If the former then it is no big deal to
>>create the folders manually, although it can be done programmtically.
>>You could set a Local Role equal to the district name and get that role
>>for users from the database. That way, users can only enter their own
>>district folder. If the latter, then you could retrieve the Username and
>>District from the User object for use in the forms (include the District
>>as a role).
>>
> 
> 
> users are of different level like store-in-charge, sys mgmt group,
> vendors and normal users.
> they are in all the districts. so depending on the user level diffrent
> set of menu page are to be generated ie. users of same level in
> diferent districts do same thing.
> In earlier ASP version I handled this in the login page handler ASP
> page and wanted to use the same logic here.
> district shouldn't be the user role , 'userlevel' will act as user role here.
> but the folders would be districtwise, I suppose.
> 
> honestly I'm little bogged out by the exuserFolder feature, its using
> Dtml all the way and I'm sticking to ZPTs and script pythons.
> 
> 
> 
>>Try working on the rest of your application to build up ZPT and Python
>>experience. As I said, managing users is tricky. Also, be aware that
>>Zope experts advise developers to produce file system based Products.
>>There are lots of simple Products that you can use and browse the code
>>to see how they work.
>>
>>Cliff
>>
> 
> 
> I completely understand this. but the problem remains the same . how
> do i customise these products acccording to my needs.
> 
> hope this helps you in helping me. waiting for your reply.