Zope development tutorial (Re: [Zope] Re: Product refreshing in Zope 2.9)

[ardo]

maybe you can check iungo at http://iungo.org ?

On 2/3/06, Tim Nash <thedagdae at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The things that tie together are Zope itself and larger frameworks
> > on top of it, such as e.g. the CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva.
> Do you mean that nobody actually writes an application without using
> CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva? If that is the case then that explains my slow
> rate of development. But I wonder if I want to continue with zope. It
> looks like a cool application server, I have written an application
> (slowly) and I was hoping that I could see better examples of how to
> write a complete application. There is very little on sourceforge.
> I have read the "zope bible" cover to cover and I have read most of
> the zope book, but I admit that I haven't read the developer book. (
> hate reading large amounts of text online). I guess that is my future.
>
> As for a specific question. Here goes:
>    Could I please get a Zope application written by someone who has >
> 2 years of Zope experience that uses several dtml or zpt  pages, that
> 1. registers a user 2. collects data from a user and saves that data
> to the zodb 3. manages the accumulation of data in the zodb? If it was
> developed outside the zmi (I hope) can you also send me the associated
> test framework?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 2/1/06, Dieter Maurer <dieter at handshake.de> wrote:
> > Tim Nash wrote at 2006-1-31 11:48 -0800:
> > > ...
> > > I have "completed" my first zope
> > >product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
> > >challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
> > >cgi.
> >
> > Have you read the "Zope Developper Guide"?
> >
> > It is something like a basic guide to product development in Zope 2.
> >
> > > ...
> > >I have downloaded many of the products from
> > >zope.org but they really don't tie everything togather.
> >
> > "Products" are extensions that try to have very few dependancies.
> > Therefore, they try not to tie other things together but use
> > only services of Zope (which is always available).
> >
> > The things that tie together are Zope itself and larger frameworks
> > on top of it, such as e.g. the CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva.
> >
> > >I am looking
> > >for something that covers login in users,
> >
> > Look for the product "PAS" (PluggableAuthenticationService).
> >
> > >building tables out of data
> > >stored in zodb,
> >
> > There is a product "TinyTables" (or similar) for (as the name tells you)
> > "tiny" tables.
> >
> > Zope does not (yet) support large tables (it is not a relational
> database).
> > But, you can use the "ZCatalog" to search your objects.
> > Read the "searching" chapter in the Zope Book (Online, 2.7 edition).
> >
> > > ...
> > >getters and setters for objects in the zodb,
> >
> > There is no difference in attribute access for persistent objects
> > (those in the ZODB) and standard Python objects.
> >
> > Read the Python tutorial.
> >
> > >collecting a variable in one page and passing it on to another page
> >
> > You have the standard HTML facility (e.g. query string and hidden
> variables;
> > function in "ZTUtils.Zope" help you in using them) and
> > you have sessions (explained in the Zope Book; read it!)
> >
> > >where it modifies the data display, working with Sessions, etc. I
> > >guess what I'm looking for is a template for a real application, not
> > >for the individual pieces of functionality.
> >
> > I guess, you read the resources mentioned above ("Zope Developper Guide"
> > and "Zope Book, 2.7 edition, online") and then come back with concrete
> > questions.
> >
> > Maybe, you then write the tutorial you are looking for now -- to
> > the profit of future new Zope users...
> >
> > --
> > Dieter
> >
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