[Zope] Re: Contents of Zope digest

[Khachatur Yengibaryan]

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>   1. Re: Zope development tutorial (Re: [Zope] Re: Product
>      refreshing in	Zope 2.9) (Tim Nash)
>   2. raw trace log format  (Dennis Allison)
>   3. Re: raw trace log format (Tres Seaver)
>   4. Re: Re: raw trace log format (Dennis Allison)
>   5. Re: Re: raw trace log format (Chris McDonough)
>   6. Re: LocalFS (Dieter Maurer)
>   7. Re: Ignore stopwords/characters in alphabetical results
>      (Dieter Maurer)
>   8. TextIndexNG2 problems (Barry Drake)
>   9. Multiple Zope Instance (Infor Gates)
>  10. Re: TextIndexNG2 problems (Andreas Jung)
>  11. ZEO disconnects, Zope auto restarts (via zopectl) (Dennis Allison)
>  12. Re: Zope development tutorial (Re: [Zope] Re: Product
>      refreshing in	Zope 2.9) (Lennart Regebro)
>  13. inheritance and aqusition question  (Roman Klesel)
>  14. Re: Zope development tutorial (Re: [Zope] Re: Product
>      refreshing in	Zope 2.9) (ardo)
>  15. Re: inheritance and aqusition question (Andrew Milton)
>  16. Re: inheritance and aqusition question (Roman Klesel)
>  17. Re: inheritance and aqusition question (Andrew Milton)
>  18. Silva Performance isses - Memory Error & Broken Pipe
>      (Jonathan Bowlas)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:50:26 -0800
>From: Tim Nash <thedagdae at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Zope development tutorial (Re: [Zope] Re: Product
>	refreshing in	Zope 2.9)
>To: Dieter Maurer <dieter at handshake.de>
>Cc: zope at zope.org
>Message-ID:
>	<75c632a00602021150m734d7565p96e8049052a3d185 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>The things that tie together are Zope itself and larger frameworks
>>on top of it, such as e.g. the CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva.
>>    
>>
>Do you mean that nobody actually writes an application without using
>CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva? If that is the case then that explains my slow
>rate of development. But I wonder if I want to continue with zope. It
>looks like a cool application server, I have written an application
>(slowly) and I was hoping that I could see better examples of how to
>write a complete application. There is very little on sourceforge.
>I have read the "zope bible" cover to cover and I have read most of
>the zope book, but I admit that I haven't read the developer book. (
>hate reading large amounts of text online). I guess that is my future.
>
>As for a specific question. Here goes:
>   Could I please get a Zope application written by someone who has >
>2 years of Zope experience that uses several dtml or zpt  pages, that
>1. registers a user 2. collects data from a user and saves that data
>to the zodb 3. manages the accumulation of data in the zodb? If it was
>developed outside the zmi (I hope) can you also send me the associated
>test framework?
>
>Thanks!
>
>On 2/1/06, Dieter Maurer <dieter at handshake.de> wrote:
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>>Tim Nash wrote at 2006-1-31 11:48 -0800:
>>    
>>
>>>...
>>>I have "completed" my first zope
>>>product and I find that the change in mindset is the biggest
>>>challenge. Zope is cool but it is quite different from php or java or
>>>cgi.
>>>      
>>>
>>Have you read the "Zope Developper Guide"?
>>
>>It is something like a basic guide to product development in Zope 2.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>...
>>>I have downloaded many of the products from
>>>zope.org but they really don't tie everything togather.
>>>      
>>>
>>"Products" are extensions that try to have very few dependancies.
>>Therefore, they try not to tie other things together but use
>>only services of Zope (which is always available).
>>
>>The things that tie together are Zope itself and larger frameworks
>>on top of it, such as e.g. the CMF or Plone/CPS/Silva.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I am looking
>>>for something that covers login in users,
>>>      
>>>
>>Look for the product "PAS" (PluggableAuthenticationService).
>>
>>    
>>
>>>building tables out of data
>>>stored in zodb,
>>>      
>>>
>>There is a product "TinyTables" (or similar) for (as the name tells you)
>>"tiny" tables.
>>
>>Zope does not (yet) support large tables (it is not a relational database).
>>But, you can use the "ZCatalog" to search your objects.
>>Read the "searching" chapter in the Zope Book (Online, 2.7 edition).
>>
>>    
>>
>>>...
>>>getters and setters for objects in the zodb,
>>>      
>>>
>>There is no difference in attribute access for persistent objects
>>(those in the ZODB) and standard Python objects.
>>
>>Read the Python tutorial.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>collecting a variable in one page and passing it on to another page
>>>      
>>>
>>You have the standard HTML facility (e.g. query string and hidden variables;
>>function in "ZTUtils.Zope" help you in using them) and
>>you have sessions (explained in the Zope Book; read it!)
>>
>>    
>>
>>>where it modifies the data display, working with Sessions, etc. I
>>>guess what I'm looking for is a template for a real application, not
>>>for the individual pieces of functionality.
>>>      
>>>
>>I guess, you read the resources mentioned above ("Zope Developper Guide"
>>and "Zope Book, 2.7 edition, online") and then come back with concrete
>>questions.
>>
>>Maybe, you then write the tutorial you are looking for now -- to
>>the profit of future new Zope users...
>>
>>--
>>Dieter
>>
>>    
>>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:19:40 -0800 (PST)
>From: Dennis Allison <allison at shasta.stanford.edu>
>Subject: [Zope] raw trace log format 
>To: zope at zope.org
>Message-ID:
>	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0602021205470.18962-100000 at shasta.stanford.edu>
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>generally it's 
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>	code id fromepoch desc
>
>The desc field is
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>	B	request (e.g. 'GET /')
>	I       ???
>	A	status_code bytes
>	E
>
>The desc for E is normally empty.  The desc for I is usually 0 
>or a small integer.  Google could not help me find a definition 
>for the desc value associated with I.  Can someone assist?
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