[Zope] Re: Zeo and conflict resolution (was "suddenly confused")

Ricardo Newbery ric at digitalmarbles.com
Wed Jan 30 17:31:14 EST 2008

On Jan 30, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:

> Ricardo Newbery wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
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>>> Ricardo Newbery wrote:
>>>> Has anyone given thought to maybe providing a more general class  
>>>> with
>>>> conflict resolution in the core distribution?  The Length class  
>>>> works
>>>> for simple counters and I guess it can also be used for just simple
>>>> assignments, but what about something more complicated, perhaps  
>>>> with
>>>> some sort of factory defined at the moment of instantiation?
>>>> Assuming this is even possible, having such a general purpose
>>>> conflict resolution class defined in the Zope products directory
>>>> might make it easier to distribute a third-party product that  
>>>> needs a
>>>> little conflict resolution.  Just a thought.
>>> Custom CR code is *hard* to get right:  most people would be  
>>> better off
>>> using stock code (e.g., on of the tree types defined in the BTrees
>>> package, or Length).  Those who can get it right aren't likely to  
>>> need
>>> their hands held.  ;)
>> I meant easier for the end user, not the developer.  It's kind of  
>> complicated right now to explain how to set up a ZEO configuration  
>> to work with your third-party product.  Makes it a bit of hurdle  
>> to distribute such a thing for general use.
>> Oops, I just realized that Length won't work for simple  
>> assignments as the conflict resolution assumes it's trying to  
>> resolve a counter (which should have been obvious, I know).  Is  
>> there zope core class I can use for a simple assignment, that  
>> maybe resolves conflicts by just picking the last value assigned?
> There is no such thing as the "last value" during a conflict (only  
> three states: what's in the database, and the two conflicting  
> states: what connection1 says, and what connection2 says).  If the  
> values are always going to have a __cmp__ method or if they can be  
> otherwise compared (like integers), and if you're willing to accept  
> the "highest" of the three states, you might use the conflict  
> resolution policy of Products.Transience.Transience.py.Increaser.

Great, that's exactly what I need.  Thanks.

I also noticed another interesting option for a counter at  


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