[Zope] Zope2 - pro/contra
Miguel Beltran R.
yourpadre at gmail.com
Sat Mar 14 02:48:50 CET 2015
When I started with Zope I loved its Zope Book. It was a super simple amd
well documented book with a lot of examples.
Zope3 and all that came later does not have it in my opinion.
I saw right now jinja2 and doesn't like. insert code between html code in
that way remember me dtml. it was good in its time but ot any more.
ZPT and zope2 are excellent tools for who knows use it.
The zope 2 book was a great help. The help in Pascal and visual basic 6
were also good help with many and not-just-see-how-call-the-command
examples to learn the language.
my 2 cents.
2015-03-10 12:03 GMT-06:00 Tom Gross <itconsense at gmail.com>:
> Again, I'm not sure if it is worth the thing but when I talk about
> marketing I don't mean just having a website. Everyone has one these days.
> Why should anyone visit especially the Zope website?
> I mean going to the people and talk to them, blog, tweet, whatever ...
> In the medieval times they knew better. The king went to the market to
> promote important things and not in his castle ...
> The success story of Zope did not start because it was a good product but
> it was mentioned in New York Times and people demanded it.
> Sales seems to be a taboo word in most OpenSource communities but I think
> it is essential to keep software alive.
> On 09.03.15 07:11, Andreas Jung wrote:
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>> Tom Gross wrote:
>>> When it comes to Zope people seem to have 2 opinions. (Maybe that's
>>> the 2 in the name ;-) ). A lot of people seem to use it (with or
>>> even without Plone) and loving it and a lot of people call it dead
>>> because there is (almost) no new development. At least on the Zope
>>> package itself. I myself like to work with Zope too but I know web
>>> development changed in the last couple of years and there are other
>>> options around. I don't know if it is worth the thing but to have a
>>> future Zope needs
>>> - A MAINTAINER!!! - MARKETING!
>> Oh, we great a not that bad Zope 2 site once in the past. Outcome? Zero.
>>> - DOCUMENTATION!
>> Oh, we created a not so bad docs.zope.org site. Outcome? Zero.
>> - Usability improvements (frameless, responsive ZMI)
>> Waste of time...
>> - Technical improvements (Port to Python3, WSGI, ...)
>> Reasonable but too hard to achieve and it longer it takes the more
>> pointless Zope will become.
>>> The technical improvements could be organized/financed with a
>>> pledgie the others are possibly harder to solve.
>> Beat me for my realistic sarcasm but Zope is a zombie.
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> Author of the book "Plone 3 Multimedia" - http://amzn.to/dtrp0C
> Tom Gross
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Lo bueno de vivir un dia mas
es saber que nos queda un dia menos de vida
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