[Zope3-Users] Re: Get Started

[Philipp von Weitershausen]

Jegenye 2001 Bt (Miklós Prisznyák) wrote:
> 2006/10/11, FB <fbo2 at gmx.net <mailto:fbo2 at gmx.net>>:
> 
> 
>     Maybe. I wrote a script which creates a new application but I don't
>     know, if
>     it's still working with a current Zope release.
> 
>     https://svnserv.cbs.mpg.de/svn/edv/EDV/zope3-mpgsite/lib/python/mpgsite/tools/zag
> 
>     I've not used it for a long time. There are no warranties but feel
>     free to try.
> 
>     <flamewar_start_reason tal:content="It's written in Perl :-)" />
> 
> 
>  Yeah, that's blasphemy indeed! :D  
>  
>  Hopefully a more generic tool, a la ArcheGenXML, will emerge for Zope 3.

I've seen a few people suggest tools like that for Zope 3. I generally 
think it's a good idea. However, "us core developers" usually prefer our 
emacs/vi/... And our efforts are currently geared towards making Zope 3 
simpler to get started with -- without any special tools (sprint coming 
up this weekend).

So let me be clear and use my ever so famous German bluntness: don't 
expect anything IDE/GUI-ish from "us" any time soon. This is open 
source, the best way to ensure something will be done is to start the 
initiative yourselves. I think there are enough GUI-mavens in the Zope 3 
community now to have enough momentum to actually produce something like 
that.

Shane Hathaway tried a while back with a ZCML GUI editor 
(http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/zopejam/) but he gave up. There was also an 
effort to extend AGX so that it can spit out Zope3-style code. I think 
that effort has been stalled, too. BUT: times have changed since then. 
Lots of people want these things. So I can only encourage you guys to 
get to together and think about what you want to produce.

Philipp