[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

[Martin Aspeli]

Chris Shenton wrote:
> "Martijn Faassen" <faassen at startifact.com> writes:
> 
>> On the rest of your rant, I agree that the beginner experience for
>> Zope 3 is suboptimal. Work is slowly progressing towards a new website
>> for Zope. As an alternative you might like to look at Grok
>> (grok.zope.org), which is based on Zope 3 as well but may be somewhat
>> easier to get started with. That said, our documentation is far from
>> complete yet, and we don't have a forum either. :)
> 
> I've been poking around the edges of Plone for a while and Plone3 makes
> the learning wall even steeper than Plone 2.  So last weekend I got
> Grok, followed the tutorial, and had an application up in a day that
> took me a week in Plone3.  Grok seems a great way for me to get into
> Zope without worrying about all the details yet. 
> 
> Kudos to the Grok team for such a pleasant product, and for some REALLY
> good tutorials.  Thanks!

Grok and Plone are not exactly competitors. You're not comparing apples 
and apples at all. :)

I think Plone can learn a lot from Grok's philosophy and that the two 
projects can share a lot more infrastructure, though.

Martin

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