[ZPT] zpt 1.0 feedback

Joseph Wayne Norton norton@alum.mit.edu
Mon, 09 Apr 2001 23:27:11 +0900


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Evan -

I would like to provide some feedback regarding the zpt 1.0 release.
As a start, we really like the direction taken by the ZPT product and
look forward to using it further.

Here is our current set of issues:

# zpt/zope with go live

a. we tried using the webdav features of go live with zope but ran
into some trouble.  go live was not able to see or edit the raw PT
source via webdav mode.  either go live or zpt/zope would cause zope
to render the document and then overwrite the PT source with the html
output.  i haven't spent enough time yet to investigate the exact
source of the trouble.  ftp mode was fine.

b. we tried integrating some existing dtml/python methods with a zpt
but ran into the trouble of the handling of "." in the object names in
zope and go live not understanding (for example) that "index_html" is
really html. probably a pure zpt solution with standard suffixes
(.html,etc.) might be fine.  a design or style guide of good practices
on using zope and go live together would be helpful.

# zpt/zope

a. html preview mode generates a URL (<name>/source.html) for browsing
the html source.  Due to the additional directory in the name path, we
were having trouble with broken images.  Part of my goal for using zpt
is to allow for "demo" html to be equally viewable inside zope and
outside as external files.  I would prefer to minimize these issues.

b. we were not able to render the following zpt templates:

------------------------------------------------------------------ 
<html> 
<head> 
    <title>tag test</title> 
</head> 
<body bgcolor="#FFFFEE"> 
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="white"> 
    <tr> 
        <td tal:content="string:<b>I WANT TO BE BOLD!!!</b>">DUMMY 
        </td> 
    </tr> 
</table> 
</body> 
</html> 
------------------------------------------------------------------ 

The above template is modifed and stored as the following document:

------------------------------------------------------------------ 
<html> 
<head> 
    <title>tag test</title> 
</head> 
<body bgcolor="#FFFFEE"> 
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" bgcolor="white"> 
    <tr> 
        <td tal:content="string:&lt;b&gt;I WANT TO BE BOLD!!!&lt;/b&gt;"> 
DUMMY 
        </td> 
    </tr> 
</table> 
</body> 
</html> 
------------------------------------------------------------------ 

Is this a feature or a limitation?

c. TALES: what is the policy for allowing (or disallowing) nested
single and double quotes in a string TALES expression?  I haven't
checked yet, but I'm assuming the python TALES expression is identical
to the python handling of nested quotes.

d. TAL: is possible to construct an else/elsif construct using the
condition statement?

e. TALES: can you provide a few more examples describing the "here"
Optional Name?

f. TALES: i'm not clear on the meaning or usage of the "modules"
Optional Name?

g. TALES: the "request" Optional Name is available but what about
"response"?

i. It would be nice to be able to specify have a "default" TALES
expression type for an entire PT document (or having some other ways
of helping to remove some of the additional typing effort required by
zpt).

# simple demo program

a. we put together a very simple color chart demo using zpt.

regards,

- joe n.



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