[Zug-sig] First post... :^)
rob.page at zope.com
Mon Aug 6 11:37:43 EDT 2007
On Jul 17, 2007, at 11:05 AM EDT, Luciano Ramalho wrote:
> > I was suggesting a database of sorts of people that
> > are willing to make presetations on certain topics.
> > I was not suggesting that the foundation would
> > subsidize travel expenses.
> Yes, such a database would be very useful.
Truly? I would be glad if it was but don't say it
would be useful just to "be nice" :^) It would take
work to create and maintain so we need to be cautious
about what we sign up for :^)
> As for subsidizing travel expenses for the speakers,
> in the case of developing countries you could
> consider that as an investment in the growth of the
> local communities which can provide professional
> services at lower costs to Zope users worldwide. Good
> Zope developers are always scarce. But Canonical,
> Enfold Systems and Plone Solutions currently employ
> several Brazilians who live here but telecommute to
> do top-notch development work for them.
From my personal perspective it's difficult to imagine
(in the near-term) a Foundation with the funds/cash
flow that would allow the subsidy of travel expenses.
In my opinion, that kind of expense has such a narrow
value in time (a conference) and space (one
venue/conference/country) that any sense of "fairness"
to the global community would be difficult to achieve.
I hope that the ZF builds a membership base or paying
members at various levels such that it can provide
these kinds of services to user groups.
> Regarding the hosting, I am not sure that would be as
> useful. The hosting needs of the ZUGs themselves are
> usually modest, and can be easily provided locally.
> A more robust hosting infrastructure would be needed
> if a ZUG were to sell hosting services to its
> constituency, but I don't think that is a good idea,
> as it is outside the usual scope of a ZUG and would
> compete with private hosting providers with whom we
> should be partnering, and not competing. In fact,
> hosting a ZUG site is a very good way for a hosting
> provider to get it's feet wet in Zope hosting.
> I hope I did not misunderstood the intention of your
> "shared hosting infrastructure" suggestion. Correct
> me if I am wrong.
First, I was *definitely* not suggesting that ZUGs sell
anything! :^) I was suggesting that shared hosting
might allow the ZUGs to benefit one another by focusing
development on a single software product "Zope for
ZUGs" :^) In so doing there would be focus,
Said another way, if all of the people around the world
that worked on ZUG sites all worked on centralized
infrastructure I suspect we might all be better off.
Your point is well taken - ZUG tech needs are modest.
Is that because ZUGs don't want to do more, there are
no volunteers to do more?
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